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Hey guys, welcome to Podiatry. 
Practice Mastery done here. 

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Today, I'm going to go over day 
one of the kind of regenerative 

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medicine or Shockwave course 
that there was in Boston. 

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I kind of like to I think this 
this, I like talking through 

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things because it helps me, 
personally, but it also will 

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help others that are using shock
wave or listening or thinking 

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about doing Shockwave. 
So, a little, the backstory we 

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in our practice. 
I think it's been about five 

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years now. 
We've been doing it using shock 

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wave. 
Dave, and we've been using the 

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real, we started with the radial
device and then we added the 

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focus device and we were 
thinking about doing, or I'm 

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thinking now that I'm here about
the EMT T. 

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So that's kind of our backstory,
we have three devices, we have 

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two radial devices, one in each 
our office, and then the 

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Westboro office. 
We have a focused one. 

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We didn't get too focused only 
because just frankly the price, 

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right? 
We didn't we didn't want for 

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devices. 
So let me let me go through and 

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do something that I, that, I 
call that I learned from 

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strategic coach called of 
experience Transformer. 

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What an experienced friends 
former does is it looks at kind 

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of what worked, what didn't work
and what would I do differently?

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I'll talk specifically about for
me, okay? 

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So, what worked about the course
is it was great because it was 

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in my backyard. 
I did have an offer to go to one

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in Chicago, and to go to one in 
different places, but I didn't 

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want to travel because the kids 
that's something that that I 

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liked about it. 
There was Breakfast. 

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Kind of starting out with all 
the coffee we could drink and it

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was a nice group. 
What I really liked about it 

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was, there was I guess maybe. 
I don't know, 70 people maybe 

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80. 
I can't really tell how many 

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were there, but it wasn't just 
Podiatry. 

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So, it was people that were in 
Aesthetics people that were in 

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Chiropractic Physical Therapy 
Urology, a lot of different 

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Specialties. 
So what it what it makes me feel

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like, is like, there is 
credibility for this device or 

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for regenerative medicine or 
shock wave therapy. 

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Repeat amongst multiple 
Specialties which is kind of a 

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nice thing. 
The lecturers were nice, they 

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weren't boring for any of you 
that do presentations. 

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What I really liked, actually 
with the AV people is that they 

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had some nice sounds like music 
as people were getting up. 

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The, the presentations were 
very, I guess somewhere 

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academic. 
Actually, most of them were 

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academic and the today, the 
first day was pretty much all on

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academics and I thought it was 
very appropriate, both for 

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Podiatry but as well, Or other 
assets. 

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So the first part of the day 
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2230 was all lectures and then 
there was all hands on, so I can

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actually get my hands on the EMT
T and I could see others doing 

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the focused in the radial. 
My favorite lectures are always 

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kind of the ones that have more 
practical things. 

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And so Paul hole, bro, if you 
haven't heard about Paul, he's 

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got some great shock wave stuff,
just Google his name Paulo bro, 

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he's from the UK. 
Okay, and he had some great 

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points and tips about how to do 
it for plantar, fasciitis, and 

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achilles tendonitis and kind of 
his protocols. 

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I really like that. 
Also his stretching or recovery 

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protocols, as well. 
So, and so what I personally 

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found that the best about it 
was, well, it just confirmed 

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that like Shockwave is the best 
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And I learned a lot of different
phrases and I'll be talking 

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about this in the future when I 
do some other episodes, but like

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certain phrases of how to 
explain things like 

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specifically, I was talking to a
couple of podiatrist and 11 

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gentleman. 
He says, basically, he only 

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offers Shockwave and says, hey, 
basically, this is how I treat 

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plantar fasciitis, or this is 
how I treat achilles tendonitis 

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and like take it or leave it. 
And there was another gentleman 

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that said, kind of gay people. 
The options, you know. 

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So you can, you can do 
Shockwave, or you cannot do 

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Shockwave or meaning. 
You can do this protocol or this

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protocol and what he says 
though, but if you're not 

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getting better with the normal 
protocol, like don't blame me if

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you're not getting better. 
Faster because I know this works

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getting you faster. 
So a lot of it is is the the how

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you explain it. 
Also, I really liked the idea of

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treating two different body 
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I know that's kind of challenge,
but with EMT T it's like a five 

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or ten minute kind of a 
treatment in its automated very 

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similar to like using a low 
level laser device and it you 

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kind of see them and then you 
just leave them on that device. 

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Then you can go see another 
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That's the nice thing. 
I like about the EMT t.i. 

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I did. 
I'm excited about kind of trying

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it in our office. 
Other good things. 

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It was really just a camaraderie
and talking to other other 

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Physicians. 
My favorite one act, it was was 

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talking to a physical therapist 
and he is doing it for like 

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arthritis and he's thinking 
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Like I don't think we're going 
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would work and he's going to be 
kind of like working on like a 

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subscription basically. 
You get let's say I'm no four 

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sessions a month and you can let
friends and family used and I 

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thought that was a really neat 
application. 

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Station, if your scope is with, 
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scope, is the whole body. 
So I really like some of that 

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forward-thinking type of idea. 
I also liked the table, I was 

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sitting with was mostly kind of 
body work people. 

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They were not, they were like 
physical therapists and people 

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like that, but they're so 
treating the whole body, they're

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treating the knees, they're 
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other parts of the body, which 
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And a lot of them do have both 
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TT. 
So, those are the things I liked

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things. 
I didn't like, I was, I tried 

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the MTT, I didn't like and we're
going to do this tomorrow 

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because, like, it was kind of a 
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So it'd be nice to really get 
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on and see what other people's 
Protocols are or even if they 

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could be written up, because in 
the slides they, many times went

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too fast. 
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some of these Protocols of other
people giving us the slide decks

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and people had said they're 
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So if we email them or email 
someone, one of the Reps, they 

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We'll get those things to us. 
Those slide decks or the slide 

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decks. 
Were those slides, what other 

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people are using? 
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that I've had with shockwave, 
specifically, is using it from 

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neuropathy and using it for like
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arthritis. 
I'm not seeing the best results 

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with that, and I'm not sure if 
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like, if I'm, it's not, I'm too 
intense or not intense enough or

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not, using the right tip on it, 
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like I couldn't do now. 
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tendonitis. 
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things like that without it. 
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that we did talk about a lot of 
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much too much pictures and 
images if you can imagine what 

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I'm saying for some Plastics 
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see other countries kind of 
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a. 
If I could do it better or what 

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would I change? 
The kind of like the third. 

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That's a third aspect of the 
experience Transformer. 

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I don't think I would change 
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It was it was a good thing. 
Thing, I think I would probably 

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have more boldness to ask more 
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about. 
I think that it's specifically 

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it's about like the protocols of
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So like having those written 
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Hey, this is what we find works,
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out. 
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on me and kind of write mine out
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say, hey, does this sound? 
Does it sound good? 

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That, that's what I could do. 
And also using all the other 

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tips, I don't use any of the 
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There's like tons of tips and I 
felt like I needed to use two or

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three of them, and I didn't need
to use all of Anyway, that's the

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idea from day, one of the 
Shockwave course. 

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Certainly, I'd love to know what
your thoughts are. 

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Please email each email me down 
at Podiatry, practice, Master 

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e.com. 
Once again, I am not an 

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affiliate for Shockwave. 
I just like to learn and this 

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was a great opportunity to go to
one of these courses on it. 

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Okay, once again, thank you 
guys, let me know if you want. 

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Once again, my protocols how I 
used Shockwave. 

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I have the my toolkit and 
basically, if you go to Podiatry

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practice Master.com, you can get
My my patient presentations that

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tool and in there, you're going 
to see how I use shock wave for 

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each of the conditions, this 
little graph that I use, and if 

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you click on the link, it's 
going to actually go to the 

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Shockwave kind of slide that I 
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So I am doing it quite a bit. 
Maybe not as much as some of 

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these people. 
So, hopefully, when I get done, 

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I was thinking to myself, like, 
what do we would? 

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It be great if I like only did 
Shockwave? 

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Wouldn't that? 
We just a nice practice. 

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I see some of the people there. 
The one I admired, the most was,

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was Paul I'll bro he he sees 16 
patients a day 3 days a week and

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that's all he does a shock wave 
and I was thinking hmmm like 

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that would be pretty a pretty 
good gig, let's say you charge 

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$300. 
And he I think he does his out 

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of his house with one room and 
so you doing, $300 times 16, 

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right? 
So you can imagine how much that

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is, I can't do math as I'm 
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week and that's it. 
Nothing else really low 

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overhead. 
I just think that was a kind of 

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a neat idea. 
I do also have another gentleman

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I've interviewed in the past. 
His name is Dean Dorfman deanza 

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friend of mine from Florida and 
I did an interview with him and 

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that's on a Podiatry practice 
Mastery on the, on the, on the 

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YouTube channel. 
I'll put it underneath this 

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video or this audio and his his 
video there he does, that's all 

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he does is practice. 
So I kind of admire that there 

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are certain people doing it. 
Let me know what your thoughts 

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are. 
Okay, thanks,