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um, Hello, and welcome to 
Podiatry. 

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Practice Mastery Don Paltrow 
here and I have dr. 

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Ben Pearl here. 
Welcome then, hey, nice to 

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sorry, I'm done. 
Good good. 

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And today, we are going to chat 
a little bit about 

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electromagnetic therapy. 
It kind of seems like Voodoo to 

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me. 
Everyone's have these new 

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therapies and I kind of say, 
tell me a little bit, how you 

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got interested in this and kind 
of what your, what it's been 

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doing for your practice first. 
Let me jump off the voodoo 

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syrupy. 
Because I think that is very 

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accurate to what people's 
impression limitations are. 

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Yeah. 
Magnetism, you know, when they 

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came out with those, magnetic 
insoles, I think in the late 

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80s, early 90s the Gauss, which 
is the the energy unit is maybe 

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like half a Gauss if that in and
one of those insoles. 

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So you have to have some energy 
to effect a change. 

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So like we jump up To an MRI 
unit, which has several thousand

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gals. 
And there's a huge jump between,

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you know, what is basically an 
ineffective in Seoul, because 

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there's just not enough charge 
there to do much versus an 

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office-based unit where you're 
actually hearing a ping just 

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like you would win an MRI unit 
of the cycle of the magnetic 

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amplitude, up and down, and you 
hear that. 

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It's very interesting. 
And you'll, I'm gonna And as 

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we're talking ecstatic, feeling 
I'm going to share my screen. 

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So this is an example of the 
machine that we're talking about

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here. 
And once again we're not going 

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to try to write selling this 
one. 

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We're just kind of talking about
it because I think it's I like 

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to bring in new technology. 
This is kind of the machine. 

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You kind of put your foot in 
here and kind of how it works 

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and if you want I'll put a link 
underneath this show if you guys

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want to look more about this 
machine and this is kind of some

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of the advantages and things 
like that and some some videos 

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and Ben's practice. 
But so tell us a little bit more

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about it than kind of how you 
got. 

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Sit in it, how it's affected 
your practice hauling. 

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You've been using it things like
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Well, there's some been some 
major manufacturers that have 

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been using these for a while and
some of my colleagues have been 

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using some of the units and I 
looked around at some different 

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Technologies. 
And I found one that fit my 

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practice profile and, you know, 
there's a lot of different 

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things price point, efficacy, 
things that you need to kind of 

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feel out and I started using the
unit, and let's just start with 

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the basic principle, the base. 
Asic principle is that with all 

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these regenerative energies, 
your priming the the breakdown 

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of ATP to ADP. 
And in the case of 

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electromagnetism, it's a 
hydrolysis situation. 

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And once that ATP goes to ADP, a
packet of energy is released and

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the cells that are deficient use
that energy to heal. 

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Now, in addition with things 
that are charged related like 

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nerd, Earth and Bone, which has 
a piece of genic effect. 

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So even when we're walking were 
affecting a charge, very low 

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mind you. 
But that has been talked about 

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with one of the essential 
elements with the ions that are 

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necessary for bone healing. 
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just mechanical pressure can 
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feel and we have these ions in 
our body, our bodies that are 

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basically analogous to batteries
that respond to charge. 

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And so not only do we get that 
packet of energy release but we 

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get buildup of priming, the 
circuit of nerve conduction 

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which which also can be primed 
by electric energy, 

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electromagnetic, energy, and 
electromagnetic energy is 

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different than like traditional 
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Stim in that the magnetism goes 
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penetrates at something related 
to Newton's inverse Square law. 

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So the depth of penetration is 
much greater than like a 

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superficial TENS unit. 
That's where you get the Deep 

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charge. 
That helps with bone healing. 

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That helps with sprains that 
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helps with neuropathy. 
These are all things that I've 

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been using it for good. 
So let's let's bring it really 

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down. 
Literally far down, let's say 

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I'm a patient and you, if you 
just said that to me, I wouldn't

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understand. 
And I still don't understand 

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anything you said, so I come in 
with An ankle sprain, I come in 

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with plantar fasciitis. 
You know, how do you use this on

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those things and how do you 
explain it to the patient in 

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conjunction with all the other 
stuff that we could offer? 

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Like cortisone, Shockwave, all 
these other types of things? 

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I absolutely do. 
And the reason I do is that it 

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is a touchless therapy, so even 
when considering a night I still

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love Shockwave for plantar 
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tendinosis. 
However, I like this in that if 

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Somebody is super sensitive and 
I'm worried about beating him up

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with like, let's say a radio 
shock way, which many of us have

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in our offices because I think 
it's a great tool. 

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I don't want to knock that at 
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I think it's still a Workhorse 
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The electromagnetism offers me, 
not as much pain for the patient

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while the rendering the 
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So it's in effect, it almost 
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taking your laundry out of the 
dryer and it just has that 

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little Kind of prickly feeling 
that's it. 

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Now occasionally you'll get a 
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Let's say I used it on my 
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flexor muscle that really gets 
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So I just use it and it really 
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I thought it was like what am I 
hit my femoral artery? 

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Or some because it was really 
pumping and I really felt the 

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deep penetration of the metal of
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Right after the treatment 
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it felt a little irritated but 
then the next day it loosened up

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now with things. 
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was like a, just a very 
sensitive area with things like 

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plantar, fasciitis. 
However, I find that there's 

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almost an immediate. 
Wow, that that is like, 

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interrupting that throbbing pain
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So there's also on pain gate 
Theory, which you know, about 

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where we inhibit the signals of 
Pain by offering another signal.

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Hmm. 
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different frequency waves, so 
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cycle. 
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7 Hertz. 
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tricking the body so that the 
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pattern, it's throwing different
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Hmm. 
So that is at least a partial 

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explanation that the the 
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know, at least in terms of pain,
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which is also reactive to 
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So you get this up regulation of
circulation and I was talking to

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you about a patient of mine that
I suspect with gout and I don't 

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know how well and I think we 
talked about it I have these all

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these videos up on my FIT foot 
use side so it would be it 

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easier to see the videos. 
They're the me to try to show 

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you the phone picture, but you 
literally see where the tow that

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was Colin and this case guard 
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He also had some ankle pain 
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It was less pink. 
It was almost like model like 

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kind of skin tone and pink like 
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had actually lessened right? 
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When he got up out of the exam 
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without any cortisone or 
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25% better and to me that's like
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Hmm. 
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that day. 
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They'll feel even better and 
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need? 
Typically I'm only doing a few 

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treatments. 
I'm not like with some of the 

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laser options. 
Let's say for neuropathy, you're

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doing 10 12 treatments, 
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neuropathy results, three to 
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I'm not saying Don that I'm 
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sensation. 
That's not what I'm talking 

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about. 
I'm talking about more movement 

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in the toes. 
When my dad But patients have a 

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lot of stiffness from the 
neuropathy that nose, his septum

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of gnawing or burning pain is 
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So those are those are the 
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way, some NIH papers. 
I was looking at 1:00 this 

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morning so if you if you Google 
the Search terms you will find 

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some stuff that's reviewed by 
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I'm referring to is about 800 
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My unit I go up to about 3,300 
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getting a quite a big bolus of 
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You told me the name again. 
What's the generic name for it? 

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Okay, there's several generic 
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The one that most people are 
familiar with and if you Google 

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it you're going to find all 
kinds of devices sold on Amazon,

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that are lower Gauss units. 
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wearables or mats, and the term 
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frequency, okay? 
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fashion and electromagnet 
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source. 
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available for a medical office 
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level of gals and insults and 
their different trade names. 

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And I'm not going to put, you 
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but there's EMT t-there's p.m. 
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And I'm not even going to 
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get into advertising, but here's
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Higher levels of Health than the
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Let's say, you know, ordering 
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smaller unit interesting. 
So, I know there's always a lot 

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of different types of treatments
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fasciitis, and other types of 
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What's your experience in terms 
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workflow. 
Like, for example, for 

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Shockwave, I might three do 
three shock waves and then do a 

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six-week break and Another three
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Do it like in conjunction with 
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Are you doing it in conjunction 
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Are you just doing it a 
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How long do the treatments? 
Take do they sit there and you 

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put their foot in there. 
You can leave and see another 

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patient. 
How does it go with the with the

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ones? 
Yeah, that's a great question. 

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First of all, both with 
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electromagnetic treatments, I do
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because I feel that's doing the 
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It's throwing the, the teeth. 
Cells away. 

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And we want to bring we want to 
bring those cells to the area. 

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These things up regulate, the 
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the helper cells, the T helper 
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induce tissue repair. 
I was reading a study of this 

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morning about wound healing and 
they were looking at zinc and 

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how electromagnetism is used in 
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Zion to help promote healing. 
So they were using both and 

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that's the other thing that I'm 
going to be looking at. 

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I was talking to you about this,
like, things like warts where I 

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do candida injections, and I'm 
just hitting that spot wart with

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this help, profuse it more. 
I think so. 

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So, I think that there would be 
an opportunity to maybe even get

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a bigger blanket effect from the
candida potentially. 

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And I've even used this done 
with situations, where I have a 

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very swollen, ingrown toenail, 
and it's one of my You know, 

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blue collar workers, they got to
get back to the workforce. 

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This is their day off. 
So I say, you know, mr. 

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Jones, this is, this, might, 
this injection might be 

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difficult for me to do, but 
here's here's something I can do

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for you. 
I can do and of course, this is 

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a cash proposition. 
There is no insurance code for 

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this particular type therapy. 
Delayed unions nonunions. 

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Yes, you can order the units. 
That would be insurance cover. 

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Not my unit though, that doesn't
fall under the same code. 

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So I offer that to them as an 
option, we can lessen the 

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swelling. 
And in fact, I will even after I

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do the injection to perfuse, the
injection, put them back in the 

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ring. 
Hmm, why do perfuse the 

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anesthetic? 
So that I obtain a better block 

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and I'm not charging the same 
amount because this is kind of 

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an auxiliary procedure to the 
main procedure. 

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Yes, you know, the intro job 
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I'll say, look, we can get you 
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Message, you know, mrs. 
Jones. 

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I'd rather you do thing 
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And then come back and see me in
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So I've done it both ways. 

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plantar fasciitis package, 
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You're regenerative package 
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Shockwave then I'm going to do 
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you're going to do all these 
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It gets too complex. 
Which one do you choose? 

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going to try this and then we'll
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We'll try the next thing. 
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been now introducing done is 
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gosh. 
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What I like about this is, I can

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lower the price point slightly, 
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do but I can set that ring up 
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Let's just call it like that. 
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know what, I want to take up the
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going to increase the Gauss, go 
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to 60% take it up a little bit. 
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You asked about workflow. 

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technical assistant that isn't a
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That has been the Revolutionary 
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rate apart from that discussion,
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of my Swiss army knife in my 
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things like laser and Shockwave 
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I just prefer with the 
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As an intro treatment, I know 
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maybe let's try a radio shock 
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So I don't have a particular 
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entity, two different things. 
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more Biologically receptive to 
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it's been, I would say. 
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80 to 90 percent of my patients 
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way, even if it's minimal. 
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I haven't had too many that 
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shock wave where they say, you 
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that's part of the healing. 
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recruit. 
Thanks to the area. 

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Etc, break up Scar Tissue. 
Cool. 

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Been I I'm gonna, I'll put a 
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your your website where they can
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people search it out. 
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about his new technology. 
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having a something on 
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that as we finish up. 
And then any last words. 

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Yeah, so, it's going to be 
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I'm going to have one of my new 
Heroes. 

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And I'm going to pump his book, 
Richard, Richard Blake, he's 

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done now the second edition 
which I've previewed and Don, I 

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call this book and he'll be one 
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and then he's going to do just 
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mechanical approach but it's 
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I mean, it's got so many 
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It's cross-referenced. 
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Talk about something on tarsal 
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Morton's, neuroma and talk 
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can do neuro release and neural 
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know, I didn't even know much 
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he describes and has pictures of
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the pictures and and it's just 
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So, he'll be there to have this.
I'm embarked old is always 

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entertaining from Australia, 
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Innovations in shoes. 
I've got, you know, from kind of

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more of the Barefoot Science, 
World golden Harper. 

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He's one of the developers of 
the altar shoes. 

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We've got Nach chocolate ham 
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So it's an international thing. 
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things related to shearing and 
some other biomechanic metrics. 

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He's a PhD in biomechanics, so 
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genuine 19th and you An email me
at Arlington footage email and I

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know you'll provide the link and
it's a nominal charge for 

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everything. 
That's been involved in putting 

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it together and it's virtual. 
So you can sit there in the 

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comfort of your home and be in 
your PJs and have your hot cocoa

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or whatever and just enjoy and 
listening great. 

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Okay, been well, thank you for 
all that work. 

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Putting that together I know 
whenever you try to do an event 

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it's like hurting hurting cats. 
And so it's not an easy thing. 

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It really isn't. 
I appreciate you, you know. 

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In the word and I hope, you 
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In fact I'll give you a comp on 
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we've been working together if 
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it would be good even and I'll 
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be available will be a senior. 
Why? 

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If you're watching this after 
you guys can check it out and 

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until next time, okay? 
Ben. 

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Yeah, man. 
I wanted to leave on a comical 

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note. 
It's been a serious year. 

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So I thought I'd invoke a little
Sly Stallone on what he'd maybe 

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say about magnets and you'd say,
in law, I don't know, magnets, 

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you know, I don't think I met a 
good guy from South Philly. 

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I think you had a magnet in his 
head, but uh, you know, I'm 

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going to try to stick around it.
This year, peace out. 

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Thanks. 
Ben on the fly. 

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All right, good to see old on 
Happy New Year. 

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Happy New Year, everybody. 
Thank you.