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Hello and welcome to Podiatry 
practice Mastery. 

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My name is Don felt. 
Oh and I have Nancy Erickson 

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here and Nancy. 
We're going to be talking a 

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little bit to you about your 
passion with helping people 

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getting their ideas on in books.
So welcome, great. 

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Thank you so much. 
I'm really happy to be here. 

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Yeah, you're welcome. 
So Nancy. 

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I can see from behind you. 
Look at all those books. 

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So tell me that's just one wall.
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your backstory kind of how you 
got into it. 

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Helping people write books is, 
you're interested in writing, is

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it marketing? 
Kind of which what's your 

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interest? 
Well, I'm passionate about 

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books, but I got into this kind 
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My actual original career was in
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I was a systems engineer for IBM
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Corporation and I mean, serious 
high tech jobs, you know, and so

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on sales team selling to Fortune
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of money. 
I mean that's a Good income, but

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I really didn't like it at all. 
It's just a lot of pressure, 

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just ridiculous, quotas and all 
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But like, most people, I had a 
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that was when my father was 
diagnosed with a terminal brain 

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tumor. 
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only live about 7 months and it 
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So during that time, I quit my 
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that I had been doing and I went
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where my parents It's were 
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know, to help manage things and 
until he passed away. 

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And then I came home and I was 
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to do? 
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know, I had my kids really young
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college at that point and so I 
thought, you know, I always 

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loved to write, I really love 
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I had things published when I 
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I thought I'm just going to 
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you're right. 
So I went back to school and got

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a master's degree in masters of 
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then asked to join the faculty 
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writing. 
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joined the faculty to teach, I 
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publishing which is a nonfiction
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was about 14 years ago and so it
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The things that happen course I 
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But in the publishing side, I 
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considered to be big hits right 
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And the first was we published a
book by a holocaust Survivor who

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had gone to school with Anne 
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And so the book was amazing. 
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release at their school in 
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And so it was so amazing and 
then I got a call from another 

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set of authors. 
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and we publish their book as 
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endorsements for that book from 
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Sir Paul McCartney and Cindy 
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And so I thought, oh my gosh, I 
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know, this is going really well,
this is really fun but at the 

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same time we were getting 
manuscripts from writers who had

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a seed of what we were looking 
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Material is intended to do, one 
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lives, save lives, or transform 
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And so it would have a seat of 
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poorly written that we couldn't 
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So I had, I guess it was kind of
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was in my office one day and I 
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Rush of heard felt something 
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Stop. 
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Take a step back and teach 
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nonfiction. 
High-impact non-fiction books. 

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And so it was kind of cool 
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knowledge from teaching at the 
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So what I did is I did take a 
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step-by-step process that takes 
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July Dia. 
All you have to have is an idea 

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to get started all the way 
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Barnes & Noble, you know, 
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So it was sideways, you know, as
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When you know, we had the the 

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issue with my dad and since 
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you know, hundreds of books and,
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It's where an award-winning 
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So, I'm really proud of it, but 
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they're they're normally, 
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doctors attorneys Business 
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quits their job to write a book.
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And they're using their book 
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business practice and that, that
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Eel to podiatrist at that are in
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wonderful, you know, story Nancy
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And I think just what you did 
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good written books and it's that
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background story and that 
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You know, we can talk about 
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else but what they really like 
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my background story, kind of how
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What's the story behind it? 
Why am I passionate Finn is what

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I what area Podiatry. 
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And why that is because they 
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They like the stories. 
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That is exactly true. 
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interesting because when I'm 
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particularly doctors they tend 
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clinical front. 
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early 2000s, it I work anymore. 
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whether it's with their, their 
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anybody that certainly, if 
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want to know the person behind 
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And so, we spend a lot of time, 
crafting, your personal story so

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that you ingratiate yourself 
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you can't, I mean, you can't 
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anymore. 
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and tells you what to do or what
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word, you know, is kind of out 
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invite people to come along with
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and particularly, when you're in
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lot of things that people need 
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important and when when your 
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trouble, you know, it affects 
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there's so many things that are 
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Care that we don't think about 
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and go walk somewhere, right? 
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And but when you in, you have 
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into your world a little bit so 
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Otherwise, they don't trust you.
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be used for book writing but 
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pull back a little bit. 
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newsletters, people are doing 
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this whole idea of like telling 
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sharing get to know me pictures 
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something about ingrown 
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different books about 
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I love listening to stories and 
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stories. 
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let's say they're not ready. 
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Let's say they want to do it on 
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What are some tips of gathering 
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Writing things like that. 
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of the most important thing, the
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story, okay? 
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what happened with me and the 
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what it used to be like, 
Remember, I told you, I work for

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Oracle and for IBM and I made a 
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Okay, the what happened part is 
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My dad was diagnosed with a 
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my job and went to help my 
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it's, but there's many parts to 
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So your pivotal moment isn't 
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like turning the Titanic, you 
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Ian and for me, what was that 
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Was, I went back to school, I 
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started publishing books. 
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third, part of that formula is 
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Now now I'm able to coach and 
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high-impact non-fiction books, 
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save lives. 
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So that formula for telling your
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backstory but they also want to 
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that you're the authority, that 
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That's that's wonderful. 
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people and to get it this way. 
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Yeah, it's kind of its, there's 
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The first way that I work with 
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I want to tell you why? 
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writing for a minute. 
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They'll spend a lot of time in 
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aren't Digging where? 
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we it's a step-by-step process. 
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foundational questions. 
That's really helps you to 

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crystallize your message and 
it's things like, you know, why 

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are you even doing this you know
which motivation who's your 

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audience, specifically? 
How's the audience going to be 

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changed as a result of taking 
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your answers to those and 
Distilling them down into a 

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purpose statement for the book 
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book is to do this particular 
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purpose of the book. 
So you can't put everything, you

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it to your audience into that 
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And the book math is constructed
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in problem solution sets. 
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through a very story driven 
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That's a, you know, proprietary 
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You have, you can take that 

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material and repurpose it across
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seminars, workshops video 
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Because you have the material 
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concentrate on the problems that
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So let's Elevate those things so
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you for the Specialties that you
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I love that Nancy, how you can. 
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as and I think even just the 
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enough or analyze enough why we 
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what you attract. 
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don't read or very few okay. 
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reading books, they prefer 
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short videos. 
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other things in this day and 
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I'm sure there are other reasons
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They might get your book. 
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PDF and not even read it, but 
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book talk a little bit to that? 
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you're bringing up a question 
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that's kind of like it has to do
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people always have to, how have 
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Book be and I have a standard 
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nobody wants fluff and all that 
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still accomplish your message. 
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What they're gonna do anything 
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will only do those things if 
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just not, well done. 
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clients that we work for and 
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market that's good. 
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but it doesn't need that. 
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Establish your credibility by 
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bestseller, but it's more for 
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there's a lot of Podiatry 
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needing speakers and those who 
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others who don't have that it 
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credibility in an instant. 
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that's key because II, you know,
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things that came out. 
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r's and basically it's a, it's 
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video transfer. 
Take the transcription make it 

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into a book but it's not edited 
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just it hurts to read it hurts. 
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physical book versus pdf? 
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physical book versus pdf 
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Let's go back to the credibility
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six-year-old can produce a PDF, 
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school now, you know, so it's 
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Not honest is what I think I'm 

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immeasurable. 
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And I'm gonna, if I can, before 
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final Tips. 
You have a tip for if someone 

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book, writer things like that I 
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There's it Steven pressfield, he
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creating content, and I think 
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down is you Advocate like an 
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every day, just to kind of free 
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just a whole day to write or go 
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How do you what's the best 
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That, that is a great question. 
It's really pretty. 

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Digital, I know another 
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Peter wish knee new, who 
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for doing non practice stuff and
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that data right? 
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book map so you're going to have
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put in your book on that mat. 
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You're going to do, you know 
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we can we really guide our 
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blocking on their calendar block
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people have found is if they do 
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them into the Rhythm but then, 
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think well I just got into my 
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two hours on an afternoon or 
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nap. 
And so, then we polish it all up

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Stands between you writing your 
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doing a professional edit of 
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Market ready? 
Okay. 

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Getting rid of all my passive 
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Oh I can't believe you just said
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I know it's all kids because I 
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And the reason I chose history 
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writing and I wanted to learn to
write better and that and that's

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why I did history medicine and I
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backup Gig. 
If I wouldn't even have that 

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story there. 
Yeah, it would have gone into 

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the actually. 
I wanted to be a magician even 

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before that, but That's a 
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Nancy. 
I think we've learned a lot. 

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Any tips? 
Like, do you recommend? 

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I think it's called Glam 
grammarly. 

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Do you recommend anything? 
Everly is really good because it

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does help you with your grammar 
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and things like that. 
So I have grammarly installed on

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my computer and I'm always 
irritated when it Flags 

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something because I think I 
should have known better. 

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The gravel is great and there's 
a free version of it. 

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That people there is there is 
but you said one of the most 

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important things Is learning to 
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know. 
It's it's, you know, the more 

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you write the better, you get. 
I think that's true. 

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And if people want to learn more
Nancy, I do you have any free 

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downloads courses, anything like
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How can they learn more about 
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Well, I have a book, I have a 
website. 

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It's the book professor.com, and
if you're interested in kind of 

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exploring something about 
writing your own book, I'd love 

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to chat with, you can just email
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Professor.com great. 
Well, this is very fun. 

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Thank you so much, pleasure 
meeting you. 

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Yeah, you too, thank you so 
much.