1 00:00:09,860 --> 00:00:12,860 Welcome to the podcast of the White Church in Adelaide, South 2 00:00:12,860 --> 00:00:15,300 Australia. You know, I did, I did say that 3 00:00:15,300 --> 00:00:18,700 this was a you know, talking about hell is a hard topic. 4 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:22,860 Not for us, not like not for us in this place, right? 5 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:26,420 Like when we think about who we are in this place as a look 6 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:29,420 around this room, we are believers in this place. 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,240 So talking about this isn't a hard topic for us. 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,200 Talking about this is a hard reality for those around us in 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,640 the community and the world around us, but not for us. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,560 Like talking about hell and you know, the lake of fire and, and 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,600 judgement and these things. This is not a hard topic for us. 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,880 This is a good thing for us. We're going to see that Jesus 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,400 judging the world and separating between the good and the bad is 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,000 the greatest day ever for all of creation. 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Separating evil and separating darkness from the good is the 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,040 greatest day, you know, for us as believers. 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,160 So you know, it should it should stir some excitement in us 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,480 because that's the day that's approaching that we're coming 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,400 into. Can I just say as well, like I'm 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,440 just thinking about, you know, our time of singing and stuff in 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,520 our gathering here this morning. And it's like, what's our 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,800 expectation of the presence of God, of being with God in this 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,120 place and seeing God do what God can only do? 24 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Because, you know, when I read the Scripture, when people 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,200 follow Jesus, they were expecting that when they were 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,000 following him and when they were in his presence that something 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,360 was going to happen. That's the reason that they 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,920 followed him. The crowds gathered to Jesus 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,240 because stuff happened when Jesus was there. 30 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,360 And so I just want to remind us of where we stand in this place 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,840 today. You know, it's not just through 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,440 lovely songs and beautiful voices and all of that, that God 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,520 moves. It's because he's here. 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,080 And so I just want to remind us that that Jesus is in this 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,600 place, that the Holy Spirit is with us in this place. 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,880 And we've got to be expecting that when, when God's in this 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,400 place that God can move. And that means that the, that 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,560 the stuff that needs to be dealt with in my life or, or just the, 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,760 the stuff that I need God to fix, You know, my, the needs 40 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,720 that I have as a, as a believer to serve him and go after him 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,200 that I can come to my loving father. 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,520 It's Father's Day and come to my loving father. 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,120 And he will take care of my needs because he is a good 44 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,400 father. He is a good God. 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,400 So I hope that we're even just seated in this place today. 46 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,440 I hope we're expectant that Holy Spirit can come in here and fix 47 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,960 some stuff and heal us and, and set us up for success and, and, 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,400 and that we could leave this place empowered that we could 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,800 receive power because the powerful 1 is in our midst. 50 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Amen. So Lord, we, we seek you for 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,240 that this morning. We don't even seek you for what 52 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,440 we can get from you, Lord, but we seek you because you are the 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,160 God that has promised amazing things that you have the God 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,400 that promised that we would come from death to life and that you 55 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,680 would restore us and heal us and strengthen us and guide us and 56 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,320 speak to us and, and lead us, Lord. 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,880 That's the God that we seek today, Lord Jesus, we come to 58 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,280 you and we say, Lord, we're, we're opening ourselves up to 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,200 you. My heart is open to you, Lord, 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,280 to do whatever it is that's needed in my life, in my heart, 61 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:37,200 in my thinking, in my understanding. 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,040 Lord, we, we seek you for revelation in this place today, 63 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,120 that you would reveal your word to us, Lord, that we would see 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,920 you clearer, that we would have a clearer understanding of why 65 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,520 we're here. Why? 66 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,680 Why I'm alive on this planet, but why you've planted this 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,680 church, Lord, why you've gathered us to be together in a 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,440 part of the church in this place in this time. 69 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Lord, reveal yourself in this place today. 70 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:08,280 Lord, in Jesus name, Amen. I read a quote this week and it 71 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,720 says if we don't accept the reality of hell, we won't 72 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,680 rightly understand the glory of the gospel that is true. 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,120 If we don't accept the reality that God's going to do what he 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:27,200 says, then we won't realize how wonderful the gospel is and how 75 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,920 wonderful salvation is. And so, you know, as we look at 76 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,960 the as the Scriptures today and as we dig through some of this 77 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,600 stuff, again, this is exciting to us that sit in this place 78 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,280 because that that's going to stir a, a Thanksgiving in our 79 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:47,640 hearts for what God has done and for what Jesus did on the cross 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,320 and for the fact that this is no longer the reality that we were 81 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,520 destined for, but Christ, but Jesus. 82 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,080 And so again, just to, to set the stage, I'm talking about 83 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,920 like the final, the final judgement, the final separation, 84 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,880 this is this is hell, this is today, this is hell, this is the 85 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,560 lake of fire. This is where it's, this is like 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,520 the end of all this stuff. You know, it says that hell and 87 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,560 death and Hades will be cast into this place. 88 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,560 It says that, it says here in Revelation 20, it says the devil 89 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,160 who deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone 90 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,240 where the beast and the false prophet are. 91 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,320 And they will be tormented day and night forever. 92 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,840 It doesn't sound good. Then Death and Hades were cast 93 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,040 into the Lake of fire. This is the second death. 94 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,640 And anyone not found written in the book of Life was cast into 95 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,280 the Lake of fire. Anyone not written in in the 96 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:50,600 Book of Life is cast into that place where who is there? 97 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,520 Satan, you know, the false prophet and all, like everyone 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,800 that's rebelled against God. You go in there and 99 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,840 unfortunately there are a lot of people that are going to go 100 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:02,800 there. A lot of people were going to 101 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,960 reject the gospel, but that's it. 102 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,120 That's that's the end. This is like Revelation 20 we're 103 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,960 getting. There's only two more chapters 104 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,080 after that. It's just like that's the end. 105 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,480 And I love like, you know, that was Revelation 20 verse 15 that 106 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,960 I read here with those not found written in the book cast in 107 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,760 there. Verse 21 says this, this is how 108 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,040 quickly things move forward. Revelation 20 verse 21 says now 109 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,720 I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the 1st heaven and the 110 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,560 first earth has passed away. It's just like once that's done, 111 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,320 now it's like now we're going to talk about the new stuff and it 112 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,920 doesn't revisit, you know, like these people's reality or 113 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,480 anything like that. It's like now we're going to 114 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,680 talk about the new Jerusalem with a bride coming down from 115 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,720 heaven and stuff like that. You know, so that's the, this is 116 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,120 like the end of this stuff. And like I believe we're living 117 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,960 in a time and, and a season of, of that in our world of our 118 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,440 planet. We're we're coming into this 119 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,240 stuff. You know, people have lived for 120 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,920 centuries before us and they believe that, you know, Jesus 121 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,400 could come in anytime. How much more now Jesus could 122 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,080 come in this moment? I hope that like we have some 123 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,560 sort of reality of that, that like, if we're not right in here 124 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,200 with him, we got problems because the time is short. 125 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,560 He is coming. All right. 126 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,520 So Jesus, I said last week again, you know, it's sort of 127 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,640 going over a lot of the same things, but Jesus spoke a lot 128 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,440 about hell. Jesus spoke a lot about hell. 129 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Like when you look at what Jesus was was saying, Jesus spoke 130 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,400 about hell in great detail. So we just got to look at some 131 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,360 of the things that Jesus said about hell. 132 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:54,400 So Matthew 1028 says do not fear those who can kill the body but 133 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:59,240 cannot kill the soul, but rather fear him who is able to destroy 134 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 both the soul and the body in hell. 135 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,160 Jesus said that. I'm just going to unpack this 136 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,000 first a bit because there's a little bit in this. 137 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,840 It says fear, you know, don't fear Him who can kill the body, 138 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,720 fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 139 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,280 Now that word for fear is the same word. 140 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,040 I just want to touch on that for a minute because Jesus is saying 141 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,800 don't, don't fear him who can kill the body. 142 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,360 If I was going to run at you with a knife to try and kill 143 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,440 you, what sort of fear are you going to be fearing with? 144 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,799 You're going to be scared for your life, right? 145 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Same word is used here. Jesus is saying don't fear those 146 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,280 who can kill your body, fear him who can end it for good. 147 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,920 Do you see what I'm saying? Say fear, like a fear, real 148 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,880 fear, you know. And I think when I think about 149 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:01,160 that, I think that I think that we've shield away from the fear 150 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,640 of God. I think we have because we, 151 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,720 we've made it some sort of a form of respect or honour for 152 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,680 God. And you should have honour and 153 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:13,800 respect for God. But I would have honour and 154 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,880 respect for a sporting star if he came and stood before me. 155 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Do you see what I'm saying? This is not the same honour and 156 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,640 respect that I'm supposed to have for God. 157 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,800 You know, when I think about, you know, it's Father's Day and 158 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,360 when I think about, you know, when the boys act up or 159 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,600 whatever. And if I'm at work, some really 160 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,560 my life doesn't really plan out this way because of my work life 161 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,360 and stuff. But you know, you hear the 162 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,360 stories of Dad's at work and Mom's just like you wait till 163 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,000 dad gets home, right? And these kids, this is not 164 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,680 because Dad's abusive and you know this and that, but Dad's 165 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:53,920 going to correct things. And when you, when you know that 166 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,480 you've done wrong, right? When these kids know that 167 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,960 they've messed up and mum's going to tell dad when he comes 168 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,720 home, they're fearing dad, not because he's a scary guy that 169 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,120 wants to hurt them, but because dad will do justice, right? 170 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,480 And I'm in trouble here because I have, I've acted up, you know, 171 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,200 I mean, I'm to be blamed. You know, kids know that when 172 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,960 they, when they do wrong and that there's going to be 173 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,920 consequence, they know that they've messed up. 174 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,680 You don't have to try and convince them they did the wrong 175 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:25,800 thing. They're just like, Oh my gosh, 176 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,480 like they're, they're fearful, You know, and I think that's 177 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,520 just a small picture of, of this fear that we have for God. 178 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,720 You know, Solomon was one of the wisest men on the planet. 179 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:41,600 Well, he was the wisest man at the time outside of Jesus. 180 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,720 I believe he was the wisest man. God blessed him with wisdom, and 181 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,320 Solomon writes this in Proverbs 17. 182 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,120 He says fear, The fear of the Lord is the beginning of 183 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,880 knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction. 184 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Let's not be foolish. Let's not be foolish in having 185 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,120 some sort of flippant understanding of the fear of 186 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,400 God. God will judge right, and we 187 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,480 want to be that the fear of God for us, knowing that, you know, 188 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:16,000 Jesus has paid the price and we we are saved. 189 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,200 The fear of God wants to keep me from stepping outside of the 190 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,840 grace that Jesus has made for me that he has given me right. 191 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,240 The fear of God wants to meet make sure that I am not taking 192 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,960 advantage of God's grace and living in a way that's like, Oh 193 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,560 well, you know, Jesus paid the price. 194 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,000 That is a scary place to be living. 195 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,040 You know, I want to be fearful that in the way that I live, in 196 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,760 the way that I speak and how I, how I lead in these things that 197 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,600 I don't slip into some sort of a oh, well, you know, Jesus has 198 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,600 paid the price attitude. I want to be fearful that man 199 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,680 like I, I, I don't want to step outside of God's grace. 200 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,520 I don't want to. You know, there's, there's a 201 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,040 prayer that says, you know, Lord, let me be worthy of your 202 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,960 coming. That's an interesting 1, isn't 203 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,800 it? Let me be worthy of my coming. 204 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,240 Yeah, but Jesus paid the price. Well, of course I'm worthy of 205 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,000 his coming, you know, but we're instructed to pray, pray that 206 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,960 you would be worthy of your coming because we could, we 207 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,560 could mess this up. Do you know what I mean? 208 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:23,200 You could turn your back on God and turn your back on. 209 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,880 I don't want to get into the once saved away saved stuff, but 210 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,520 I just want to be fearful that that couldn't happen because if 211 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,040 it could, I don't want it to happen. 212 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Do you see what I'm saying? I don't know, I just want to be 213 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,640 fearful. I just want to to look at my 214 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:43,800 Lord and give him the honour and the respect that only he is due. 215 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,200 Another thing from this passage in Matthew 10 that I just want 216 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:54,000 to address here is where it says fear him who he was able to 217 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,040 destroy both soul and body. I've heard people try and say 218 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,200 that, you know, this just means that this destroy word means 219 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,880 that those that are cast into hell will just be destroyed and 220 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,600 they won't exist anymore. This is not what this is saying. 221 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,120 You know, this the scripture, you know, we don't have time to 222 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,080 dig right into this, but that word destroy is used in many 223 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,200 ways in the Scripture if you go and look at it. 224 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:22,200 And I would encourage you, if you're questioning that, go and 225 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,200 look for yourself. That's the safe place. 226 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,200 Go and find out what the Word of God says. 227 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Go look at the word destroy. Go look at where how it's used 228 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,400 in other contexts throughout the Scripture and you'll see that 229 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,720 it's not saying that, you know, the other thing that you know, 230 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,320 sort of lands up for me is that the rest of the Scripture 231 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,440 doesn't teach that. You would have to if, if that's 232 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,920 what that's saying, that you know, God's going to destroy 233 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,760 them in hell and they just cease to exist. 234 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,320 You have to discount a whole bunch of other scriptures. 235 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,280 You know, the one that I read before about, you know, Satan's 236 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,320 cast into this, into the lake of fire, and it's eternal torment. 237 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,360 And everyone not written in the Book of Life is thrown in there 238 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:01,840 as well. Yeah. 239 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,160 But they're just going to be burned up and not exist. 240 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,800 But Satan's going to be in there. 241 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,600 You see, it just doesn't make sense. 242 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,080 It's not. It doesn't fit what the Bible 243 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,360 teaches. So people will be, you know, 244 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,480 people that don't know him will be in eternal suffering, 245 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,280 separated from God and conscience like we in in a 246 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,400 conscious state, knowing they're there, knowing that God's not 247 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,840 there. That's hell, right? 248 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,320 That is hell. All right, Let's look at some 249 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,960 more verses here. So Matthew 1342, this is some of 250 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,320 the ways that Jesus describes this place, right? 251 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,640 He says gnashing of teeth. You know, this is like anguish 252 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,040 and regret. This is the sort of feelings and 253 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,920 emotions people are going to be feeling here. 254 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,560 Matthew 25. I'll give you the references 255 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,880 we're going to be. Don't bother turning there now. 256 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,880 Matthew 2530 Outer darkness, Jesus calls it. 257 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,800 He says it's outer darkness. And again he says weeping and 258 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,560 gnashing of teeth doesn't sound like a nice place. 259 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Mark 943 He says hell is fire that shall never be quenched. 260 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Further on in Mark 944 Jesus quotes Isaiah 66 and he says 261 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,760 they shall go forth and look upon the corpses of men. 262 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,600 This is not the bit Jesus quotes, but who have trans. 263 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Let me just start again. This is what it says in Isaiah 264 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,960 66. It says, And they shall go forth 265 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,160 and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed 266 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,640 against against me. And this is what Jesus quotes 267 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,240 for their worm. For their worm does not die, and 268 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,280 the fire is not quenched. It's like you're not passing 269 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,240 away there. It's like eternal fire and 270 00:15:54,240 --> 00:16:00,520 torment. Luke 161931 These verses talk 271 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,600 about again, it's a place of torment. 272 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,360 They're tormented by fire. There's crying out for help. 273 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,400 Jesus has already come. Jesus has already died on the 274 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,360 cross. Jesus, the Scripture says he's 275 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,280 not going to be crucified a second time. 276 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,320 He's already paid the price. If you've rejected salvation, 277 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,040 he's not going to die again for you, right? 278 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,360 If you reject it, there's a crying out for help that just 279 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,440 goes unanswered. It's horrible. 280 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,040 And you know, it says that you can't pass from this place into 281 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,000 this place. You know, there's this parable 282 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,400 about about the rich man and Lazarus. 283 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,640 Yeah. And he and he says, you can't go 284 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,760 from here to here. You know, there's a, there's a 285 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,080 it, it says it's fixed, which means it's unchanging. 286 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,840 All right, I'm just going to talk a little bit about some of 287 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,560 the, some of the myths or the misconceptions that our world 288 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,160 has taught us about hell through books and TV and, and Hollywood. 289 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Just a couple of these things. You know, you sort of taught 290 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,920 that hell is like Satan's domain, like where Satan dwells, 291 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,319 you know, like he's working out of there. 292 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:19,319 It's like, it's like his headquarters. 293 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,599 It's like we're Satan sending the demons out and getting stuff 294 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:25,240 done. And you know, that is not hell. 295 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,720 That is not the hell of the Bible. 296 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:34,680 Satan will not rule in hell. Satan is there in eternal 297 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,240 punishment and torment. He's not having his way there, 298 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,080 right? He's not reigning and rolling 299 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,760 over all the people and getting him to do all his will and all 300 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,640 that. He is not having a good day. 301 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,040 And you know, Satan is here. Where is Satan right now? 302 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,360 He's not here. I don't think he's here. 303 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:58,000 I think Satan's got more important things than to give us 304 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,560 a hard time here at the White church. 305 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,440 Can I just say that Satan can't be everywhere. 306 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,480 I don't think that we're the biggest threat to Satan's 307 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,440 Kingdom here on the earth. I wish we were. 308 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,200 I pray that we could be, but I don't think that we are, right. 309 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,040 So I think that Satan's probably where, you know, I'm just going 310 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,680 to leave it at that. I'm not going to get into that. 311 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,800 Satan is somewhere. He's probably not here. 312 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,760 But that's not to say that he hasn't got his workers in around 313 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,240 here doing his will and causing trouble for the church here, 314 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,960 Right? OK, so the lake of fire is empty 315 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,440 right now. It says the first one that's 316 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,440 cast in there is the false prophet and and the beast. 317 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,000 And then Satan goes afterwards. And and so there's a place that 318 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,440 God's prepared that it's, it's not being used yet. 319 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,560 This is the hell we're talking about. 320 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,400 There is other demons and stuff like that. 321 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,120 Fallen angels chain somewhere. I don't really know where that 322 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,680 is, you know, but I don't think it's this end place. 323 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,600 I think that it all just gets dumped in this in this final 324 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,640 existence, which is the lake of fire in the Scripture. 325 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,600 All right, So another misconception that, you know, 326 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,120 you hear this when you talk to people. 327 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:16,320 I heard someone say sort of some of these things, you know, this 328 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,360 week that hell is a place for just the really bad people. 329 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,360 You know, hell is a place for like murderers and, you know, 330 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:28,440 people that do things to kids and, you know, just the most 331 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,480 heinous crimes that you can think of, like hell is this 332 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,360 place for them, but not for me. Like I, I haven't, you know, I'm 333 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:38,840 not like that. You know, people would think 334 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,040 this, right? I spoke to someone this week and 335 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,480 I said, you know what? What do you think happens when 336 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,720 you die? And he says, well, I'm hoping 337 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,520 that I'll go to be in heaven. I said why? 338 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,160 Like, you know, like we had a conversation. 339 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,040 I said, so who goes to hell then? 340 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,560 It's just like, oh, you're the bad people. 341 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:54,920 It's like you think you're a good person. 342 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,000 Like anyway, I'm not going to I'm not going to get into the 343 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,160 I'm not going to get into the conversation, right? 344 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,560 But in here somewhere, you know, when you dig a bit and when you 345 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,560 pardon, when you poke and when you ask some, some questions, 346 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,760 people realise they're not that good, right? 347 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,320 We know like you know. That, you know, I'm, I'm fallen, 348 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,160 I'm doing stuff that I don't even want to do. 349 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Do you see what I'm saying? Like hell is for people that 350 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:25,160 fall short of the glory of God. You know, it's like hell is to 351 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,000 separate all of the unrighteousness and all of the 352 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960 ungodliness and all of the evil and all that stuff from a 353 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,720 perfect, righteous, holy God and his existence and everything 354 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,640 that he, you know, the stuff where where God wants to dwell 355 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,560 and the good and the stuff that he creates that's perfect. 356 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,920 He can't have all of this stuff tainting it. 357 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,960 And unfortunately that's you and I before Jesus came along, 358 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,640 right? Like we're not that perfect. 359 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,560 And that means that it I can't be there. 360 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:56,920 This is why we have a place in hell, or at least that is why we 361 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,640 were destined for hell right until our names written in the 362 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,640 book of life, right? Because of what Jesus did, not 363 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,280 because of me. Like I've been lived even like 364 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,880 when Jesus came and saved me. I haven't lived a good enough 365 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,880 life for me to expect to go to heaven. 366 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,840 Right. When you understand, when you 367 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,400 have some sort of an understanding of how good God 368 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,000 is, you just go, well, yeah, I'm sort of falling way short of 369 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,800 that God now what, my son Jesus. Thank you, Lord. 370 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,120 You know, that's the point. So so all of that just to say 371 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:32,280 that hell is not just for a place of the really bad people. 372 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,400 It's for everyone that's outside of Christ, that's outside of 373 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,400 receiving the gospel, which is people being able to be forgiven 374 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:49,160 for being short of perfection. I haven't met anyone that I 375 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,400 could look at and go, that person's perfect apart from my 376 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,120 wife, you know? No, I'm joking. 377 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,680 Of course she's not. But do you see what I'm saying? 378 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,200 Like you would never have met anyone and go on. 379 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Yeah, that person's perfect in every way. 380 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,800 Imagine what it was like meeting Jesus, though. 381 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,640 When you think about that, I don't think, like, you know, 382 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,200 there was reasons why the Pharisees hated him and wanted 383 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,680 to kill him, and everyone else wanted to kill him. 384 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,920 There's reasons for that, right? But it wasn't because he wasn't 385 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,800 perfect. If anything, it was because he 386 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,360 was perfect, right? I'll cut to the heart. 387 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,040 I was just like, you can't be perfect. 388 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,840 We have the law. Like, you know, we're the 389 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,040 perfect ones, not you, you know, you see, So. 390 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Oh, man, I just I can't wait to meet Jesus. 391 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,360 That's going to be a day, isn't it? 392 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,840 I didn't like because it says that you know, when you see him 393 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,120 as he is, then then you'll know how you are. 394 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:49,760 Like it's I'm not quoting it perfectly, but it's like to see 395 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,680 him, you, you know who you are. That's amazing to me. 396 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,880 That means that when we see him clearly, we go, Oh my gosh, that 397 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,400 is what we you created us to be. Hallelujah, Lord, isn't that 398 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,320 cool? All right, so one other thing, 399 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,240 just when it comes to to Helen and everyone's going there, Luke 400 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,840 1247 it says this. And the seven, and the servant 401 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,640 who knew his master's will, and did not prepare himself to do 402 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,280 according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 403 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,640 But he who did not know yet committed things deserving of 404 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,960 stripes shall be beaten with few. 405 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,840 And I think what that's saying is that there's different levels 406 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,800 of punishment in hell, it would seem. 407 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:40,320 So, you know, I'm, I'm sure that there's people there that 408 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,480 deserve greater condemnation than others. 409 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:53,080 And our righteous holy God will justly judge every single 410 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,840 person. So we just leave that with him. 411 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,600 He will take care of that, you know, But again, all of us fall 412 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,840 short of the glory. All of us deserve to receive 413 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,880 judgement from the Lord, but our judgement was put on Christ, 414 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,160 Amen. So again, you know, I just 415 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,040 repeat sort of what I've been saying in the last couple of 416 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,520 weeks, like hell is this place of separation from God. 417 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,480 It's simply what it is. It's being cut off from life. 418 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,960 It is being cut off from goodness. 419 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,760 It is being cut off from the loving Father. 420 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,680 John 14-6 says Jesus said to them, I am the way, the truth, 421 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,880 and the life, and no one comes to the Father except through me. 422 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,200 That means that no one is escaping hell but through Christ 423 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Jesus. Whether you lived before, 424 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,560 whether you live now, where, whenever you lived, the only 425 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,040 reason that anyone that was ever born will be with the Father 426 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,880 through eternity will be because of Jesus Christ. 427 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,720 That's it. And you know, that's just the 428 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,280 worst thing about hell. What's the worst thing about 429 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,040 hell? That God's not there. 430 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,320 That's the worst thing. And then knowing that God's not 431 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,520 there and knowing that you could have been where he was would be 432 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,080 the most tormenting truth to have to live with forever. 433 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,120 You know, I've got things from my past that I've done that I 434 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:32,120 have to live with. And it can torment you, you 435 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,920 know, and I just have to go, Lord, you know, I, I thank God 436 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,280 I'm forgiven, you know, but that thing to know that you could 437 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,680 have been saved and you rejected it will torment you forever if 438 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,480 you should find yourself there. Very scary. 439 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,560 So Hell's God's plan for hell was just to deal with rebellion, 440 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,680 right? When he says that he created 441 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,840 hell for Satan and his angels, right, it's because that they 442 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,520 rebelled against God, right? And those, that the people that 443 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,680 will find their way there are only going there because they're 444 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,560 rebelling in rebellion against God. 445 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,600 God is dealing with rebellion here. 446 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:18,280 And not just the rebellion of mankind. 447 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,280 There's other rebellion that God's having to deal with Satan 448 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,760 and the, and the angels. There's a spiritual realm where 449 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,600 there's been rebellion and God's having to deal with that. 450 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,000 And so This is why this is the, the reason that he has to put a 451 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,760 place for all of that to go, not just people, but everything, 452 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,040 because they won't honour God as God. 453 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,160 Satan chose not to honour God as God. 454 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,640 You know, I had a conversation with someone this week about, 455 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,640 you know, because people will say things like, well, what sort 456 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,080 of a God just needs to be on it? Like, what sort of a God? 457 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,120 Like how, how selfish do you have to be to have to create 458 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:07,240 things just to be worshipped? It's just twisted understanding. 459 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,240 It's just like God gave you life. 460 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,840 You wouldn't even be, you would have nothing if he didn't give 461 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,560 you life. Of course we're going to honour 462 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,480 the one that gave you life. Of course. 463 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,640 Only he is worthy of all praise and all honour because he is 464 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,560 God, right? To say that, you know, he's 465 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,720 twisted because he made us just the need to worship him. 466 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,680 He's just. It's the most ridiculous thing 467 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,560 I've ever heard. You like to be alive, don't you? 468 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,400 Yeah, God did that. He didn't have to, right? 469 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,320 And so like, but we've taken everything for granted. 470 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,280 When I think about the life that I've lived and when I think 471 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,920 about the life that people outside of him live now, we take 472 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,720 everything for granted. We take everything for granted. 473 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,200 You know, I take for granted the air that I breathe. 474 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,200 I still do this now. And until you get centered 475 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,040 again, until you go, oh, thank you, Lord. 476 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,160 You know, like Thanksgiving just brings you back to this place of 477 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,080 putting God in his rightful place and, and putting you under 478 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,920 him again. But you know, like I just, 479 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,000 we've, we've all lived this life and just taken life for granted, 480 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,040 taking the sunshine for granted. You know, the, the wicked and 481 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,520 the good. The sun rises every single day. 482 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,920 You know, in God's Jesus says this, he says that, you know, 483 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,960 I've made like the sun to rise on, on the evil and the just 484 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,920 because we're in a period of grace, you know, God's allowing 485 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,240 things to happen right now. He's allowing us to live. 486 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,360 He's allowing people that don't know him that reject him, that 487 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,200 speak against him, that blasphemy, his name, that that 488 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,240 speak against his bride, that speak against believers. 489 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,440 He's allowing those people to wake up, have some air, eat some 490 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,280 food, right? But he's going to bring it all 491 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,560 into account one day. And I just hope that for us as 492 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,920 believers that we're living in a in a, in a respectful way to God 493 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,360 in that you don't he doesn't have to allow you to wake up 494 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,760 tomorrow, right. Our lives are in God's hands. 495 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,480 And I think that even as believers and, and us that, you 496 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400 know, receive the promises and live in the goodness of God and 497 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,240 have salvation and, and know that our futures have sown up in 498 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,480 him. I think that we, we still need 499 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,640 to just have a solid reminder that we are blessed. 500 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,760 You know, life is tough. Many of us are facing many 501 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,840 things, but life is good. Life is a blessing from God And 502 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,680 there's, there's work to be done. 503 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,720 It's just like we have to just center ourselves daily and just 504 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,000 say, Lord, you know, I'm just going to wake up and be thankful 505 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,760 today because you've blessed us in every way. 506 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,800 You know, how much more us than those that don't even know him. 507 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,600 I think we I think we've got some work to do church. 508 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,080 I think that we've got some work to do in our togetherness to be 509 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,600 thankful for even the opportunity to meet together. 510 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,360 You know, this is amazing thing for us to be together as a body. 511 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,560 You know, I hope we're grateful and thankful for those things. 512 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,720 I'm just going to bring this to a close. 513 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,760 You know, I started off by talking about the fear of God. 514 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,640 You know, it's echoed here in Hebrews 104031. 515 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,640 It says it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the 516 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,600 living God. You know, that's a New Testament 517 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,240 scripture. That's not like, you know, the 518 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,120 God of the Old Testament was, was, you know, the harsh 519 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,240 taskmaster. But then Jesus came along and 520 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,360 he's just all loving and, you know, just don't worry about it. 521 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,960 You know, God is perfect and he loves you. 522 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,400 You know, Jesus didn't say anything that wasn't in line 523 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,840 with the Old Testament Scriptures, you know, and what 524 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,360 This is why we need to dig into the words of Jesus when he talks 525 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120 about hell and when he talks about the reality of things, 526 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,000 because I think we've just put all that aside and just gone, 527 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,160 you know, Jesus just loves you, you know, come and come and know 528 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,200 Jesus. You know, when we're, when we're 529 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,160 preaching the gospel, it's just like this happy message of like, 530 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,480 you know, Jesus loves you and he, he wants to get to know you 531 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,360 and you can, you know, get all the things that you need and be 532 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,560 happy and have joy and peace. And we're sitting in this room 533 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,880 just as believers just going, yeah, not really, you know, And 534 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,320 it's weird because like we, we share that message with people 535 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,200 and then we're not living it out when it's not our reality. 536 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,680 It's not true, right? Because we have hardships and we 537 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,280 have pain and we have suffering. And now they're looking at us, 538 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,200 just wondering whether it's even true what we're saying because 539 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,320 the witness that we're bearing isn't reflected in our lives in 540 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:11,080 a real way, Right. But Jesus is wanting us to 541 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,640 declare the goodness of God no matter what is going on. 542 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,040 And you know what people do, they go, you know, there's a, 543 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720 there's a scripture that says, you know, what is this hope that 544 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,840 you have? What is this hope you have? 545 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640 You just go. Let me tell you about my Lord. 546 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,000 You know, that's the hope. That is the gospel. 547 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,800 That is like the gospel message that no matter what is going on, 548 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,840 he is Lord, He is my Savior. He is coming. 549 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,480 I'm waiting for him. He has a place for me in 550 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,000 eternity where all things will be in you. 551 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,600 And he's going to all of those things. 552 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,600 You know, the pain that I feel, the tears that I cry, all of 553 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,320 those things will be washed away. 554 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680 Yeah. And Jesus is going to make sure 555 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,240 that every evil thing, everything that's rejected him, 556 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,920 everything that's ever rebelled against him is put in another 557 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,080 place far from where we are. Amen. 558 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,200 People need to hear that. You know, people want to hear 559 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760 that because people aren't stupid. 560 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,760 People know when they look at us, when they look at, you know, 561 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,480 the life of a Christian, they know that we're not living in 562 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,920 this place where we're healed all the time and we never die 563 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200 and we don't grow old and we're not in pain, right? 564 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,520 We're lying to people when we say that, you know, Jesus's will 565 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,840 to heal every single time And, and you know, like that sins 566 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,640 dealt with once and for all and we never have to live in any of 567 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,160 the repercussions of sin. That's not true. 568 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:43,680 I'm sore, I'm aching, and I know that I won't be in an eternity, 569 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,120 right? That means that there's still 570 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,960 things to do to be dealt with. And this is the dealing, 571 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,080 throwing all of the stuff in the in the lake of fire. 572 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,400 Amen. So we got to bear real witness 573 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,280 to the truth of the gospel and that means being real sometimes 574 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,440 or all the time, being truthful, meet people with the truth. 575 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,400 It's the truth that sets free, not our sugar coating message of 576 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,679 how God's going to do this and God's do going to do that. 577 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,120 Amen. I'm going to close here. 578 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,920 This is this wonderful scripture in Jeremiah 29. 579 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,120 You know it, I'm going to read it. 580 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,520 Jeremiah 29 verse 11 it says, for I know the thoughts that I 581 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,159 think towards you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not 582 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,520 of evil, to give you a future and a hope. 583 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,719 Then you will call upon me and go and pray to me, and I will 584 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:45,199 listen to you, and you will seek me and find me when you search 585 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,040 for me with your with your whole heart. 586 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,159 And I will be found by you, says the Lord. 587 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,440 And I'll bring you back from captivity, and I'll gather you 588 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,120 from all of the nations, from all the places where I've driven 589 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,960 you, says the Lord, And I'll bring you to the place from 590 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,640 which I caused you to be carried away captive. 591 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,560 The gospel is about God gathering all of the people from 592 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,760 all of the nations everywhere and gathering them to be 593 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,960 together with Him forever. I will be their God. 594 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,640 They will be my people. And so, you know, I just want us 595 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,840 to think about like, I really felt just to say this, there's, 596 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,520 there's people in amongst your life. 597 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,280 You know, I've got some people, you've got some people that 598 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,280 don't know him. Can we just think of one person 599 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,960 right now? Just one. 600 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,480 Just give you guys a second. Just think of one person that 601 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,400 doesn't know him. And I want you to think of 602 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,880 someone that's close to you, close enough for you to reach 603 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,680 out to them. Not like on the other side of 604 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,840 the world, not someone that you don't even speak to anymore. 605 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,040 I want you to think of someone that you have contact with that 606 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,800 doesn't know him. And what I want us to do, just 607 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,560 as we close this meeting, I would like you for you to tell 608 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,800 someone who that person is. And they're going to tell you 609 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,720 your person, their person. It can just be the person next 610 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,200 to you or whatever, but just, we just need someone next to you. 611 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,720 And we're just going to pray. Well, let's just pray now. 612 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,120 Just God's hand upon them that he would reveal himself, that he 613 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,520 would send workers into the field of their life, that he 614 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,920 would use me, that he would give me boldness and power to, to 615 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,800 have the courage to reach out to them. 616 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,080 And I want us to spend this week praying for those, those two 617 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,560 people. And we're going to have to lift 618 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,640 our expectation that God can come and do what we can't do. 619 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:55,120 Thank you, Lord, Let's just bow our heads and pray. 620 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:57,920 Father, we we thank you for who you are. 621 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,560 You are a good, good God. You are a good, good Father, 622 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080 Lord, we thank you, Lord, that for the stirring of our hearts, 623 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,040 for the lost around us. God, we pray that that this 624 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,880 week, Lord, that you would embolden us and encourage us, 625 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,720 Lord, to, to, to work the harvest, Lord, to see eternal 626 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,800 reward. Lord, we thank you, Lord, that 627 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,280 that we partnering with you that we don't have to do any of this 628 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,280 in our own strength. Lord, but Holy Spirit, come even 629 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,120 right now, just empower your people with boldness, with 630 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,480 strength, with courage, with the words of of truth. 631 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,400 We pray, Lord, that we would bear solid witness, Lord, in 632 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,200 these people's lives, Lord, that we've prayed for by name. 633 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,280 Just remind us daily to be praying for these people. 634 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,480 We want to see you move. We want to see salvation. 635 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,680 We want to see your mighty hand to save. 636 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,720 So Lord, empower us, Lord, to partner with you in this all for 637 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,600 your glory in Jesus mighty name, Amen. 638 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,240 Thank you for joining us for today's message. 639 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,200 For more information about The Way Church, please visit 640 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,160 ourwebsite@thewaychurch.com dot AU. 641 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:09,520 Have a blessed day.