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Welcome to the podcast of the 
White Church in Adelaide, South 

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Australia Just. 
Jumping straight into it here. 

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We, we, we talked about the 
gospel last week. 

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How does the gospel make you 
feel like when I hear the gospel

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again, it, it stirs the Spirit 
of God in me. 

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I'm, I'm reminded of who I am 
now and what he's done. 

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And there's such life in that. 
Like, I don't know, there's, you

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know, there's no life outside of
the gospel, outside of what 

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Jesus has done. 
We spoke about that last week. 

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So I'm not going to go straight 
back into that, but we're going 

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to talk about water baptism this
week. 

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And water baptism is, it's the 
next thing that happens after 

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salvation comes. 
And we're going to talk through 

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all of that in a moment. 
But water baptism is like the 

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representation of what's already
happened on the inside at 

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salvation. 
And it's such an important thing

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for us to understand. 
And so we want to talk about 

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that. 
We want to talk about what we 

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believe when it comes to water 
baptism, what it means and you 

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know, who it's for and these 
sort of things. 

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So we feel it's important for us
to, you know, have that 

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foundation there for, you know, 
for us as a church that we would

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understand what water baptism 
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So that for one, you know, we've
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have been water baptized. 
If you haven't been water 

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baptized, then this is a really 
good message for you. 

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But for those that will come and
that we were water baptized, 

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that we can actually rally 
around these people and 

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celebrate, you know, baptism is 
a, is a celebration of what 

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God's doing. 
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what it what it is and what it 
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of that as a church community. 
Is that OK? 

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Very good. 
So if we just start with the 

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word baptize, the word baptize 
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Greek word of baptizo, and it 
simply means to to plunge or 

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immerse or submerge. 
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something in and put it in a 
bucket and take it all the way 

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to the bottom of the water and 
bring it out, that's the picture

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that this word says. 
It's like submerged in immerse 

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and so rightly out worked in, 
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biblical understanding would be 
to go completely under the water

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and it sort of does away with, 
you know, this sprinkling of the

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water on the head and that sort 
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You know, I'm I'm trying not to 
be, you know, I'm not I'm trying

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not to be offensive. 
People believe certain things 

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can't just say we don't believe 
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We don't believe that 
sprinkling, you know, of on on 

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the head and stuff like that is 
the same baptism that we read in

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the Bible. 
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You know, we want to we want to 
be a church that is just given 

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over to the word of God, 
whatever it is in, in any 

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sphere, like any sort of topic, 
we want to do things the Bible's

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way. 
So we would we would say that a 

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baptism is a full immersion in 
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And if we look through the 
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picture of immersion, it rings 
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So if we look at Matthew 316, 
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through these because I'm just, 
we're not going to sort of see 

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on these scriptures and talk a 
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But Matthew 316 says simply 
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the water. 
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of the water, my tiny brain 
thinks that you must have gone 

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into the water. 
And Acts 836, you know, we have 

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Philip here, Philip the 
evangelist, and he's out 

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preaching the good news. 
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the gospel to this Ethiopian 
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And when he's finished preaching
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that he must have included water
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that he preached because, 
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going to read from Acts 836. 
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the road, they came to some 
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So he's preached the gospel. 
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road and they've seen some 
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And listen to what the eunuch 
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He says, see, here's some water.
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baptized? 
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So like in order for this guy to
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could be baptized. 
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water baptism as a part of this 
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And Philip says, if you believe 
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Verse 37. 
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believe that Jesus Christ is the
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Verse 38. 
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stand still, and both Philip and
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water and he baptized him. 
Now when they came up out of the

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water, you see it's the same 
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It's like they went down into 
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They came up out of the water. 
That's an amazing story if you 

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want to go read there. 
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some pretty crazy things 
happened in that story if you 

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want to check that out later. 
So another case for this full 

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immersion in water would be John
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It says now John also was 
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Catch this because there was 
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and they were baptized. 
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had to go to the place where 
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OK. 
And so they had water in their 

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homes. 
You know, they would get it from

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the well and they would bring it
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And so they could have done this
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could have done, but they went 
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So that suggests to me that 
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they can immerse in the in the 
waters, as we read in other 

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places. 
But can I say that baptism is an

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act of obedience to God in 2 
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I'm just going to give you the 
recap of this story. 

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You don't need to turn there. 
But 2 Kings 514, we have the 

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king of Syria here and he hears 
the God of Israel has authority 

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and power over sickness, and he 
sends the commander of his army 

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naman to be healed of this skin 
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And Naaman is told by God, by 
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Jordan River 7 times. 
Go, OK, if you want to be 

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healed, just go into the Jordan 
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times. 
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He's just like, I've come all of
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just to go wash in a river? 
Like I could have just done that

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back in my own river. 
We've got better rivers back 

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home than you guys have. 
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here. 
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And so, but God was testing, God
was testing his humility and his

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obedience. 
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obedient to what God says and 
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And it's like, don't just dip 
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You know, the prophet says, he 
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Can you imagine like 123 like 7 
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you got, I just do it 7 times 
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Now, we're already asked to do 
this one time, but it's still an

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act of obedience from us to 
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and what we're commanded to do. 
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baptism is the first act of 
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If we can't be humble to submit 
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we're going to have a hard time 
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we live from beyond that point. 
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We've got to be obedient to the,
what the Lord says ties, doesn't

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it? 
You got to take off your jeans 

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and like, you don't have to. 
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But you know, if it takes 
humility to stand before God and

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to stand in front of people and 
to go down into the water and to

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come out, it's a, it takes a 
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It's just, it seems odd, seems 
like a strange thing, a strange 

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request to do. 
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humility and trust that we just 
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So you know this question of is 
water baptism required of 

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believers? 
My answer is yes. 

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You know, our answer as leaders 
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required of believers. 
Jesus himself was baptized. 

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Jesus said, come and follow me. 
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That's enough for me, that there
is enough for me that Jesus was 

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baptized. 
And he said, come and follow me.

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All right? 
I mean, I will, I will humble 

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myself. 
I will follow you, Lord, if you 

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were baptized, I'm going to get 
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Do you see it? 
That's enough for me. 

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But in case that's not enough 
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Matthew 2819, What does it say 
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Jesus commands it. 
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He says, go, therefore make 
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Then what does it say? 
Baptize them in the name of the 

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Father and the Son of the Holy 
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Is that a command? 
Is the Great Commission a 

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command? 
Of course it is this, that 

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again, I just go, all right, 
that's enough for me. 

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But we keep going, right? 
It's a command. 

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Jesus commands it. 
When God speaks, when God says 

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something, you got to go, yeah, 
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That's where the humility part 
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God says it, I just go, whatever
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I'm going to do things your way.
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this in Acts 1048. 
We read and he and he commanded,

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this is Peter, and he commanded 
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of the Lord. 
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a few days. 
So Peter, off the back of what 

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Jesus commanded, they go now and
now they're commanding that's, I

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mean, it's as clear as they, the
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were baptized. 
So the, the, the apostles just 

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get on with what whatever it is 
that Jesus commanded them to do.

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So who needs to be baptized? 
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that comes becomes a disciple or
a follower of, of Jesus, you 

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know, they repent and they are 
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So it's it's a believer, it's a 
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It's it's again like Jesus was 
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He said, follow me, I'm going to
be baptized because he was 

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baptized. 
Followers of Jesus are baptized 

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in water. 
I don't think we need to say too

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much more like that's that's if 
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The next step of obedience. 
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to be baptized in water. 
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Are children baptized? 
Well, we don't find any age 

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requirement in the Scripture for
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There's a lot of thoughts on 
this, but this is we, this is 

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where we stand that there is no 
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Salvation is a personal choice. 
You choose to receive Jesus as 

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your Lord and Savior. 
Is that true? 

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We choose that. 
It is a choice. 

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And so we would say that if 
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need for a savior, you are old 
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I don't know how old that could 
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I don't know. 
You know, we're going through 

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this with our oldest son at the 
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It's just like if he understands
his need for a savior and he 

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puts his faith in Jesus, now 
it's time now it's time to go 

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and be baptized. 
And so it's a straight away 

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thing. 
Once you receive Jesus and the 

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good news, you should be 
baptized straight away after 

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that. 
And we we see this pattern in 

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the scripture. 
We read about, we read about 

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Philip and the eunuch. 
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Can I be baptized? 
And that's like in the same 

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little conversation that they're
having, there's some water, can 

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I be baptized? 
And he says, do you believe that

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Jesus is your Savior? 
Yes, I do. 

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All right, let's go. 
That's do you see the picture? 

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It's like straight away whenever
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You know, there's other examples
of this that you know, when 

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Peter's preaching and stuff like
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The Holy Spirit comes in there 
and all right, who would forbid 

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water? 
It's time for water baptism. 

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Paul baptizes 12 guys in Ephesus
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and believe about Jesus. 
We'll talk about that one in a 

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moment. 
So we've established that 

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baptism is it's full immersion 
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Water baptism is a command for 
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a believer should be water 
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straight away. 
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water baptism. 
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Water baptism is it's a 
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It symbolizes the death and 
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And so when we go down into the 
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dying. 
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out of the water, it's a 
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resurrection. 
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It's like the death and, and the
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washing in the scripture. 
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that say that Ephesians 526 is a
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This is it says that he this is 
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cleanse her talking about his 
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are saved with the washing of 
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So Jesus washes his bride by the
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water. 
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It's the water is a is a symbol 
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Scripture and we see that all 
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well. 
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representation of God's 
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of the gospel. 
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God's judgment. 
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things like the great flood, 
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God floods the whole earth. 
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on the whole earth. 
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family through the waters of 
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They were safe inside the ark. 
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the ark and they go through the 
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He doesn't lift them up out of 
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They're on the earth and they're
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they go through the water and 
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And one one Peter 3 verse 21 
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It says that there there is also
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baptism, not the removal of the 
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answer of a good conscience 
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resurrection of Jesus Christ. 
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between the flood and you know, 
the gospel message being saved 

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through Christ, God also leads 
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them through the sea. 
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the Lamb is slain. 
So the, the story goes something

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like this, that they, they 
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household sacrifices the lamb 
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lamb on their, on the lentil and
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they're going to be staying in 
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And that Angel of death 
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the blood of the lamb. 
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This is the, the sacrifice that 
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He is the Lamb of God. 
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sacrifice, that Jesus shed his 
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saved, that the destroyer would 
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leads them out of Egypt. 
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Sea and he parts the waters and 
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the saved. 
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God judges Pharaoh and the army 
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This is God's judgement. 
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So God's people are saved 
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judges with the water. 
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It's the same picture. 
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through resurrection life in 
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And those that just stay dead, 
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God's judgement is there. 
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There's no life in Jesus for 
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So that's the picture here in 
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So is baptism a private thing or
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terms of can you just do that on
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together? 
Just talk about that for a 

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moment. 
Our salvation shouldn't be 

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hidden. 
You know, we are when we're 

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saved, you know, we're, we're 
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with others. 
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happens, you know, behind closed
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everyone in your life. 
We want to, we want to do this 

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out in the open and we want to 
celebrate and express and make 

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known what has happened in here 
that, that, that God has made us

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alive through Christ. 
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do that with our church family. 
You know, the, the scripture 

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says that we've been baptized by
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That means that we've been 
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church. 
And so we would like to do that 

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together, to celebrate together,
to celebrate that you've become 

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a part of the body of Christ. 
Now, we read that Philip 

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baptized this eunuch on their 
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That's OK too. 
He was about to head home like 

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this. 
It's so it's not like it's not 

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law. 
It's not like we have to be 

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baptized together. 
You could be, you could hear the

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gospel, someone could preach the
gospel to you in the same way 

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that Philip did, and you could 
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And that would be fun. 
What you couldn't do is be 

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baptized on your own. 
You couldn't baptize yourself. 

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We have no scriptural grounds 
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Like you couldn't just, you 
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I mean, God can do whatever he 
wants, right? 

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So, but from a scriptural, from 
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are baptized by someone else. 
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encounter with God at the end of
the jetty and then just jump off

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and go, I've been baptized. 
It's not, it's not the, it's not

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the way that the Scripture 
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So, and again, we want to do 
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It's very simple, right? 
We'll do it God's way. 

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Can't baptize yourself. 
You would have to be baptized by

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someone who is a believer. 
You couldn't get your 

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unbelieving friend, Hey, I've 
just believed in Jesus. 

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Can you just dunk me in the 
water? 

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It's just again, it's just not, 
it's not the pattern from 

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Scripture. 
You know, I baptize you in the 

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name of the Father and the Son 
and the Holy Spirit. 

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It's just like these are just 
words of that he just repeat 

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these words for me. 
Can you and just dunk me in the 

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water? 
It's that's a ridiculous thing, 

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right? 
We can agree on that. 

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So we have to be baptized from 
someone that knows him. 

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Can I just say that, you know, 
Justin sort of mentioned this 

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when we were talking about this 
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He said. 
How many people do you want at 

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your funeral, right? 
And I think that's really cool. 

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It's just like if I have a 
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like I'll be dead anyway. 
But if I went to a funeral and 

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no one was there, I'd be pretty 
disappointed for the person, 

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right. 
And baptism is a symbol of this 

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death that you've died in 
Christ. 

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Like so I would want, you know, 
people to be there to celebrate 

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with me. 
That would seem right to me. 

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We want to we want people at our
funeral because it is a picture 

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of this, this death that we've 
died and this new life that 

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we're going to be leading. 
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talk about re baptism. 
If you were baptized in another 

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church, can I just say that you 
don't need to be baptized again 

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into this church, right? 
No, you don't. 

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There is one church. 
Jesus is building 1 church. 

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There is one body. 
There is one church. 

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If you've been baptized into the
body already, you don't need to 

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join this church and go, OK, now
you're going to have to be 

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baptized our way so that you can
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You know, this is a thing guys 
like people with some movements 

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and stuff would say that if you 
haven't been baptized into this 

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denomination, we're going to 
have to just do it again just to

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be sure it's not scriptural, 
right? 

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Like we are baptized into his 
body. 

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He has one body. 
That's it. 

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We're we're done now. 
You don't need to be re baptized

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into the way church. 
That sounds stupid for me to 

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even say, but it's out there. 
OK, so we just we're setting a 

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foundation here. 
We're baptized into his body. 

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So reasons why someone might 
feel to be baptized a second 

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time. 
Maybe you weren't baptized 

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according to this biblical 
pattern. 

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Maybe you were sprinkled, maybe 
it wasn't full immersion. 

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Maybe you, you've got some doubt
here. 

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And so you know, again, maybe 
that was you that just jumped 

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off a jetty. 
I've been baptized. 

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Have you? 
No, I haven't. 

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So there might be a reason why 
you feel to be baptized again. 

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And I would say that like if 
it's, if you're, if you're in 

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doubt and you're just going, I 
don't think that it was 

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according to the Scripture. 
I don't think that it was done 

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rightly. 
I, I think that that would be 

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grounds for me. 
I'd be OK with that if someone 

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came to me and said, you know, 
when I was baptized, it just, it

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wasn't really what I see in 
Scripture. 

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So I want to do this properly. 
I'd say, sure we can, we could 

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baptize, right. 
So there might be some reasons 

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why maybe you've only just heard
the true gospel now, maybe the, 

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the message of the gospel that 
you heard originally just fell 

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short of, of, of what you know, 
you might have heard the gospel 

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preached again and just gone. 
Oh gosh, I don't even know if 

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I'd received the gospel before. 
If this seems very different to 

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the gospel that I, I believed I 
was saved into, that might be a 

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reason for you to go. 
I'm not I'm not, I'm just going 

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to, I'm going to go through this
again. 

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I'm going to be baptized again. 
I feel like I've just received 

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something that I never had 
before. 

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That would be OK. 
That would be a maybe a reason 

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why you would want to be 
baptized again. 

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I think for, for Daniel, you 
were baptized as a, as a young 

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guy and later on when God really
gripped his heart and, and he 

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started running, he felt that 
the need to do that again. 

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So there's, it's, it's really 
what's going on in your own 

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heart and you're in conviction 
before the Lord in that. 

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But you know, and even just in 
that, I think that, you know, I,

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I alluded to Paul baptizing 
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this is in Acts 19. 
And I'll just, I'll give you 

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the, the, what happens here. 
Paul goes to Ephesus and he 

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meets these 12 guys and it turns
out that these guys are 

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disciples of John the Baptist. 
So that disciples of John the 

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Baptist were looking for Jesus. 
They were, they were looking for

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the Messiah to come. 
They, they were baptized into 

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this baptism of repentance, you 
know, looking for the Messiah to

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come. 
But Paul, Paul talks with him 

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and he realizes who they are and
he preaches Jesus. 

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He says, no, no, no, Jesus has 
come. 

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The Messiah is here and he 
effectively preaches the gospel 

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to them. 
They get saved in, in Jesus in 

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the, in the finished work of the
cross and Paul takes them and 

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baptizes them in water again. 
Right. 

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So this sort of like it's kind 
of aligns with, you know, this. 

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I thought, I, I thought I knew 
the gospel, but it, it seemed 

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like another gospel. 
It wasn't really. 

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And I and I realized that there 
was nothing wrong with what John

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was doing and that's God's work 
in John and all those things. 

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So it's not really the same 
thing, but it just means that 

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like if you're, if you haven't 
received Christ yet and then you

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felt that you did, now is the 
time to be baptized. 

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It's all about our salvation. 
It's all about that, that moment

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of coming alive in Christ. 
Amen. 

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Very good. 
What about if I've stepped away 

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from God for a period of time 
and God had lived my life in sin

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for a season and, and you know, 
just stepped off and just gone 

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and lived a life for myself. 
Do I need to be re baptized 

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then? 
Well again, it's like only you 

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can know. 
Only you can know whether you 

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were really saved or whether 
you've just stepped and whether 

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you were really saved and 
stepped away from God or whether

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you never knew him in the 
beginning. 

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Do I need to be re baptized? 
Can I say that if I had to be re

448
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baptized every time I sinned, 
I'm ready. 

449
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:53,320
Let's go. 
Like you're going to take me 

450
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,040
now. 
We'll, we'll go and get re 

451
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,520
baptized Now there's enough 
stuff that's going on since I 

452
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was baptized, you know, probably
the day after I was baptized, 

453
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,400
got to get baptized again. 
It's not about sinning. 

454
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960
It's not about falling short of 
the glory of God. 

455
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,680
We are, we are sinners, we sin. 
I realize that we've been made 

456
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alive in Christ and we are the 
righteousness and we are Saints,

457
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but we do sin from time to time 
and so I don't need to be 

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baptized every time I sin. 
When John 19 says if we confess 

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00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,840
our sins, He is faithful to and 
just to forgive our sins and to 

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cleanse us from all 
unrighteousness. 

461
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,520
I'm not cleansed by water 
baptism. 

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00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:40,800
I'm cleansed by my repentance to
the Lord and He is faithful to 

463
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wash away my sins. 
Do you see it comes through 

464
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repentance is comes through, you
know, coming to the Lord my 

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Savior, and so you don't need to
be re baptized if you've stepped

466
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away from God for a season and 
and stepped away from him if you

467
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were truly saved. 
You know, my story is is a 

468
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,120
little different. 
I was never baptized when I was 

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young, but I was, I was in a 
church when I was, you know, up 

470
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until I was sort of early 
teenage years. 

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And I pray, I remember praying 
like, Lord, forgive me, like I 

472
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don't want to go to hell. 
I want to be saved. 

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And I would pray that all the 
time. 

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I remember I was just like, 
Lord, please help me, you know, 

475
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and, and so I from that point, I
went and lived, you know, I'm 

476
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that guy that walked away from 
God and lived a whole life just 

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doing my own thing and sinning 
and all of the stuff, right? 

478
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And so it wasn't until much 
later in, you know, later in 

479
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life, like in my 30s when God 
just gripped me again. 

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And it was like I, I was told to
be baptized for one, because I 

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hadn't been warned baptized. 
But if you had have said to me, 

482
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you know, when were you saved? 
When, when God really got a hold

483
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,160
of me and, and I started running
for him again in my 30s, I would

484
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have said to you at that moment,
I always said, yeah, I was 

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00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,440
saved. 
Now, I was never saved before, 

486
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,000
but I was saved now. 
I don't know. 

487
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,920
I honestly don't know because I,
I prayed and when I was young 

488
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and I, I believe I meant it and 
he's faithful and he never left 

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me. 
He never left me guys, in all of

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00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,400
the stuff that I was doing in 
the whole life that I lived, He 

491
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,200
never left me. 
He was always there when I fell 

492
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200
down, he was there to pick me 
back up again. 

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He was with me. 
He never left me and so I 

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00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,800
couldn't even today I just go, I
don't know. 

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00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,960
I don't know when that moment of
salvation happened. 

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00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,680
I know when I decided that I was
going to give my life to him and

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like live my life for him. 
But that moment of salvation I'm

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unsure of. 
You know what I am sure of the 

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00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:47,520
moment that I was baptized. 
I know when I went down into the

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water and I know when I came 
back up again. 

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So I have a point of reference 
that my life, I died for Him, 

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whether on that day or another 
day. 

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But I can tell you a day when 
from that day on, I'm living for

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the King. 
And again, I have made many 

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00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,000
mistakes since that time, but 
I've repented. 

506
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,160
And he is faithful and he's held
me because he's a good God. 

507
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,040
Amen. 
Gosh, he's so good. 

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00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,080
And so, you know, again, like we
said it after, and maybe you 

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were too young to understand, 
maybe your life, life never 

510
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,480
changed again. 
Like you're not saved by 

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00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,280
baptism. 
We are saved by grace alone. 

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00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,880
Ephesians 2 says by grace you 
have been saved through faith, 

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00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,920
not of yourselves. 
It is a gift of God. 

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00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,920
So it's not the act of baptism. 
I am repeating myself yet, but 

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it's through faith in Jesus 
alone that we're saved. 

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00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,160
So if you've got any doubts that
you have been saved or you were 

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00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,720
saved, just if there's doubt 
there, just be sure. 

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00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,840
I would say just be sure, be 
baptized and go. 

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00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,360
I've got that day where I'm 
certain that you know that I'm 

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00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,760
not, not that I became a 
Christian on that day, but I'm 

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00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,200
certain that I've outwardly 
expressed my willingness to live

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00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:11,320
for him on that day. 
So, you know, I've sort of 

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00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,480
answered that question of do I 
need to be baptized to be saved?

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00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,880
The answer is no, I am not saved
through being water baptized. 

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Think of the thief on the cross.
Was the thief on the cross 

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baptized in water? 
No. 

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00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Was he saved? 
I believe he was. 

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00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,160
Remember Me, Lord, when you come
into your Kingdom, what is he 

529
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,960
doing? 
He's putting his trust in Jesus.

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00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,240
The other thing that the thief 
on thief on the cross says, he 

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00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,480
says like to the other thief, he
says, mate, we believe we belong

532
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,720
here. 
We should be here. 

533
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,600
He shouldn't be here. 
What is that? 

534
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,360
That's that is confession, that 
is repentance. 

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00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,160
That's going weird where hey, we
don't we deserve death. 

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00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,640
He doesn't Lord Remember Me when
you come into your Kingdom, you 

537
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,720
see the picture. 
This man was saved. 

538
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,360
He was not baptized in water, 
but he Jesus said that you will 

539
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,560
be with me in paradise again. 
That's enough for me. 

540
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,600
You don't need to be water 
baptized to be saved baptized 

541
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,160
baptism in water. 
It's not necessary to be saved, 

542
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,600
but it is necessary for 
obedience and to follow him. 

543
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,480
It is necessary. 
Mark 1616 is one of these 

544
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,600
scriptures that comes up when we
talk about this. 

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00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,200
He who believes and is baptized 
will be saved, but he who does 

546
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,800
not believe will be condemned 
because people will go see. 

547
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,960
He who believes and is baptized,
those people are saved. 

548
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,080
But you got to like take that 
whole verse, you know, for 

549
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,080
everything that it says, it says
that that he who does not 

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00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,640
believe will be condemned. 
So it's just saying if you don't

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00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,240
believe, you're condemned, it 
doesn't put in the baptism 

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00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,720
there. 
It doesn't say if you don't 

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00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,000
believe and you're not baptized,
then you're condemned. 

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00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,680
You see, you got to like it. 
It gives you a clear indication 

555
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,640
that it is salvation and through
the whole rest of the Scripture,

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00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,560
right, salvation and baptism 
that the person that does those 

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00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,200
things will be saved. 
But a person who just doesn't 

558
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,560
believe they will not be saved. 
So it it tells us clearly it's 

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00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,160
not through baptism that we're 
saved. 

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00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:25,520
So baptism in water, it's 
integral to a follower of Jesus,

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00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,760
but it's not essential for 
salvation. 

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00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,560
And I think that's important. 
I think that that that could 

563
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,120
free some of us, you know, 
because we need to live free. 

564
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:41,240
So as I bring this to a close, 
like for us as believers, for us

565
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,160
that have been baptized and what
is the benefit for us? 

566
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Like what do we benefit from 
baptism? 

567
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,640
Well, obviously in that it's a 
picture of what's already 

568
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,840
happened. 
Well, we're saved and we've 

569
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,760
outwardly expressed the fact 
that we're saved. 

570
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,800
So that's a that's a big benefit
for me because you're not water 

571
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,840
baptized unless you're saved. 
So yeah, we're saved. 

572
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,360
Big benefit. 
It's pretty good. 

573
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,280
But God bless his obedience, 
doesn't he? 

574
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,160
He does. 
His scripture teaches that that 

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00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,720
those that obey me belong to me 
and these sort of things. 

576
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,280
So when we step out in 
obedience, when we're faithful 

577
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,480
for what he says, we, we live 
in, you know, God's blessing, 

578
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,960
God blesses those who have been 
in. 

579
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,560
But the joy of a public 
confession is something very 

580
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,120
rich that we can draw out of 
when we're, when we're baptized,

581
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,080
the joy of standing before 
people and saying, I'm the, I'm 

582
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,160
the son of God now. 
You know, it's, it's joy for 

583
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,400
you, but it's joy for those that
that are a part of his family as

584
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,320
well. 
It's like a, it's the body 

585
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,040
rejoices. 
The body is knit together in a 

586
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,400
greater way. 
It's it's such an amazing thing.

587
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,920
There's a witness that we have 
to our friends and family that 

588
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,440
don't know him. 
You know that when when you 

589
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,800
stand up publicly and you know, 
in front of your unbelieving 

590
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,680
friends and you say I've died 
and I'm a new person now and I'm

591
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,240
going to live for the King. 
You know that they're watching. 

592
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,000
You know that they watch the 
life that you live from that 

593
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,400
point and they can clearly see, 
you know, those that are 

594
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,880
following Jesus and there's 
fruit in their life and the 

595
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,280
spirits leading them. 
Your life is is changed 

596
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,679
radically right People that are 
looking at you from that point 

597
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:25,800
on, they this is bearing witness
that Jesus is who he says he is 

598
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,639
points to look back to. 
It's a witness to our friends 

599
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,280
and family. 
It joins us to his body in a 

600
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,000
greater way and there's the 
blessing of walking in 

601
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,880
obedience. 
So I guess my question in 

602
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,719
closing for us in this place, 
like I don't know everyone's 

603
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,400
position on this and what they 
believe and what, you know, what

604
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,239
they've done with this. 
If you haven't been warned, 

605
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,239
baptized, I would ask you why. 
And that's just a question for 

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00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,120
you guys to answer. 
If you have any questions, 

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00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,240
please come and talk to us. 
We would love to talk more about

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00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,960
it. 
And hopefully this has given us 

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00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,680
a pretty clear understanding of 
what it is and and why it's 

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00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,520
necessary. 
Is that OK? 

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Thank you for joining us for 
today's message. 

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Way Church, please visit 

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