1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,560 This is the Drivein Podcast. Take one 2 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,640 but a big but a boom. Welcome to episode 248 of the 3 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,280 Drivein Podcast. On today's episode, we have our 4 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,320 throwback review of Interstellar from Oppenheimer director 5 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,760 Christopher Nolan. So use the bathroom. 6 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Now grab that popcorn and enjoy episode 248 of the Drivein 7 00:00:49,640 --> 00:01:03,250 Podcast. Howdy Doody, Welcome to episode 8 00:01:03,250 --> 00:01:07,450 248 of TDI. This is Doctorow on the horn to 9 00:01:07,450 --> 00:01:12,290 start, per usual, And as always, I'm joined by my cohost, my best 10 00:01:12,290 --> 00:01:16,490 friend and Christopher Nolan aficionado. 11 00:01:16,690 --> 00:01:18,850 How are you, my friend? Ricky Flicks? 12 00:01:19,010 --> 00:01:22,410 Are you ready to discuss black holes? 13 00:01:22,450 --> 00:01:23,890 Wormholes. Time. 14 00:01:23,890 --> 00:01:26,560 Dimensions? Alternate planets, Alternate 15 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,760 realities with Interstellar today. 16 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,800 This is my guy. This is my guy, Christopher 17 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,720 Nolan. I got the book right here. 18 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,680 You got me for Christmas and dad went getting ready for this 19 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,640 week. This is the biggest week of the 20 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,440 year for me movie wise, because this is my guy, my most 21 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:49,880 anticipated movie and hopefully, as he always does, comes 22 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,640 correct. Hopefully it comes correct. 23 00:01:53,210 --> 00:01:56,370 And I'll tell you what you came correct for Interstellar, and 24 00:01:56,730 --> 00:01:58,890 this is a review where you throw it. 25 00:01:58,890 --> 00:02:01,810 You threw this idea at me. Of course I'm going to say yes, 26 00:02:01,970 --> 00:02:03,850 but I don't know if I've been excited for a review of a 27 00:02:03,850 --> 00:02:05,410 throwback like this, like Fallout. 28 00:02:05,690 --> 00:02:07,370 I it's tough. We just did Fallout. 29 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:11,290 So like this, this is just below Fallout for me, as in, like 30 00:02:11,570 --> 00:02:13,610 excitement levels, but very close. 31 00:02:13,650 --> 00:02:15,130 So I'm really looking forward to it. 32 00:02:15,130 --> 00:02:16,890 My guy, Christopher Nolan, Same birthday. 33 00:02:18,010 --> 00:02:20,010 Can't wait. You always love pointing out the 34 00:02:20,010 --> 00:02:22,450 birthday thing coming out in a couple weeks, right? 35 00:02:22,450 --> 00:02:24,690 July 30th, right? For those who are looking to 36 00:02:24,690 --> 00:02:28,250 send Ricky flicks a gift for all his contributions to the movie 37 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:31,010 community, I thought this was going to be an interesting 38 00:02:31,010 --> 00:02:35,770 throwback review because we have a Christopher Nolan movie coming 39 00:02:35,770 --> 00:02:39,850 out this week, a much anticipated Oppenheimer that is 40 00:02:39,850 --> 00:02:45,610 going back to World War Two era. We're talking 1940s and then. 41 00:02:46,420 --> 00:02:48,820 In opposition, we're going to be reviewing a movie that takes 42 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:53,660 place in 2067, right in the not so distant future. 43 00:02:53,860 --> 00:02:57,100 So I thought it was like a like what you see as a theme in a lot 44 00:02:57,100 --> 00:02:59,460 of Christopher Nolan movies is the concept of time. 45 00:02:59,740 --> 00:03:01,780 So I thought like, hey, we cannot kind of have a little bit 46 00:03:01,780 --> 00:03:04,940 of fun with this and look at right how he sees the world 47 00:03:05,420 --> 00:03:10,220 decades from now and how like if any connections we can make to 48 00:03:10,220 --> 00:03:13,620 Oppenheimer, obviously a historical period piece. 49 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:15,670 Of a Ritchie Flex. You mentioned you're a huge 50 00:03:15,670 --> 00:03:17,110 Nolan guy. Okay. 51 00:03:17,350 --> 00:03:22,590 What is it about Christopher Nolan movies that makes you such 52 00:03:22,590 --> 00:03:24,670 a massive fan? When I think of Christopher 53 00:03:24,670 --> 00:03:29,790 Nolan, personally, I think of the director just with a massive 54 00:03:29,790 --> 00:03:32,550 brain, a swollen brain that is Pert. 55 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:35,870 That is like swelling up and pushing against his skull, 56 00:03:35,870 --> 00:03:38,910 protruding through his head based on the concepts of his 57 00:03:38,910 --> 00:03:41,710 movies, the brainbreaking type of like. 58 00:03:42,050 --> 00:03:45,890 Experiences he gives audiences, but also the spectacle that he 59 00:03:45,890 --> 00:03:48,050 provides them. So, Ricky Flex, what do you 60 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:50,450 anticipate every time you go see a Christopher Nolan movie? 61 00:03:51,490 --> 00:03:54,290 Yeah, you you kind of hit the you kind of set it right there. 62 00:03:54,290 --> 00:03:55,930 You think about the stunning visuals. 63 00:03:55,930 --> 00:03:58,770 He always has to shoot like an IMAX, right? 64 00:03:58,770 --> 00:04:00,370 He wants the biggest screen possible. 65 00:04:01,090 --> 00:04:03,610 It's got to be loud. Everything's got to be loud. 66 00:04:03,890 --> 00:04:08,970 Tenant, Interstellar, Inception. Zimmer is his guy. 67 00:04:09,290 --> 00:04:13,300 Great score, great music. And again, he's one of the the 68 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:17,180 most reliable author film makers that we have. 69 00:04:17,220 --> 00:04:20,860 You think of Tarantino, Paul Thomas Anderson, Scorsese, all 70 00:04:20,860 --> 00:04:23,260 that, right? Direct, produce their movies, do 71 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:27,420 all the the big things behind the scenes and no one's one of 72 00:04:27,420 --> 00:04:29,180 those guys. So I just have a great 73 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:33,880 appreciation for him and again. The entertainment factor, he's 74 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,840 like a peep. The People's director, you know, 75 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:39,280 it's very similar to Tarantino, where he's also like a audience 76 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:42,920 member, you know, trying to see what great sequence that he 77 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,960 could do, Action sequence, also that's a spectacle, but also 78 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,520 with a story that's grounded at the same time. 79 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Packs an emotional punch, but he's going to throw some twists 80 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,600 at you, some mysteries and twists psychological. 81 00:04:57,110 --> 00:04:59,430 Thrower aspects at us that we want to see. 82 00:04:59,430 --> 00:05:00,670 We want to be on the edge of our seat. 83 00:05:00,790 --> 00:05:03,630 So he kind of does a little bit of everything that the audience 84 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:05,990 wants to see when you go to the movie theater, you know. 85 00:05:06,110 --> 00:05:08,350 So that's why, like for me, he's the people's director. 86 00:05:08,350 --> 00:05:11,750 He touches everything. He does touch everything. 87 00:05:11,750 --> 00:05:14,550 That's a good way of like looking at it because he's made 88 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:17,870 arguably the greatest comic book trilogy of all time. 89 00:05:18,150 --> 00:05:23,550 With Interstellar, he's made a space scifi epic that stands on 90 00:05:23,550 --> 00:05:27,560 its own and in one in the. Upper echelon of greatest like 91 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,400 scifi space movies. I think it's only aged better 92 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,120 and better as time goes on. He's made a World War Two epic 93 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,120 in a little a different type of fashion with Dunkirk and he's 94 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,200 tried and then he's messed with Time and other types of films 95 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,760 like Tenet and he always is trying to push the boundaries of 96 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,760 what's already been seen in theaters and he's giving 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,640 audiences a very unique experience and that's definitely 98 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,190 what Interstellar provides and. Before we get into an 99 00:05:56,190 --> 00:05:58,430 Interstellar, I want to talk a little bit more about Nolan like 100 00:05:58,430 --> 00:06:03,310 these past like 10 years. So after The Dark Knight trilogy 101 00:06:03,310 --> 00:06:07,270 ends, right, we have Nolan kind of spacing out his filmography 102 00:06:07,270 --> 00:06:09,110 and like when he's having these releases. 103 00:06:09,470 --> 00:06:14,430 Like he goes on a freaking all time run in the late 2000s into 104 00:06:14,430 --> 00:06:17,790 the early twenty 10s where he is ripping off right starting in 105 00:06:17,790 --> 00:06:23,750 just 2008 with The Dark Knight. And then Inception 2010, Dark 106 00:06:23,750 --> 00:06:27,070 Knight Rises 2012, Interstellar 2014. 107 00:06:27,470 --> 00:06:31,550 Like to have the greatest comic book trilogy, right, Most 108 00:06:31,550 --> 00:06:35,910 grounded and most real that we've ever had in cinemas. 109 00:06:36,110 --> 00:06:40,550 And then in the meantime make 2 groundbreaking scifi movies like 110 00:06:40,670 --> 00:06:43,190 as those are going On. That's what I'm talking about 111 00:06:43,190 --> 00:06:46,110 where like his brain, I just don't think I don't understand 112 00:06:46,110 --> 00:06:49,590 how it can handle that capacity because he's writing his stuff 113 00:06:49,590 --> 00:06:51,560 too. Like, he is conceived, like 114 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,920 conceiving of all of these different concepts and ideas. 115 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Meanwhile, he's putting together like The Dark Knight Trilogy. 116 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,120 That always blew my mind. And that's the moment really, 117 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,560 that I began to love movies. I associated with the 118 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Christopher Nolan peak. But these last 10 years he 119 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,080 hasn't had that form. Like, he hasn't had that run 120 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,960 where you had Interstellar when it came out. 121 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,940 I think people. They didn't receive it as warmly 122 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:24,180 as that Dark Knight trilogy as Inception, right? 123 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:25,980 They thought like, okay. This guy thinks he's a little 124 00:07:25,980 --> 00:07:29,380 too smart for the audience, you know, And it takes a little bit 125 00:07:29,380 --> 00:07:32,220 of, like a high level of focus to go see his movies. 126 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:37,100 And then you have Dunkirk Okay in 2017 Tenant. 127 00:07:37,860 --> 00:07:39,220 Am I missing? I'm missing one in there. 128 00:07:39,380 --> 00:07:41,260 Well, Dark Knight Rises was kind of like. 129 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,880 I would say the weakest part of The Dark Knight trilogy, but 130 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,840 this last decade it seems like he's been trying to find 131 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,480 something. I think we're going to see a 132 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,600 real return to form. It's not like those movies are 133 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,880 bad, all right? There's still top tier audience 134 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,880 and movie going experiences. But I think here's something 135 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,480 like he's been trying to find his footing and we could be 136 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,000 lining up for that much elusive best director, best picture win 137 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,730 for our guy. This is going to be a tough on 138 00:08:09,730 --> 00:08:11,490 the wind, though. He's going to be going against 139 00:08:11,490 --> 00:08:15,770 Denny V Scorsese. You know, Fincher's going to be 140 00:08:15,770 --> 00:08:19,850 around, like he's going to go up against the best of the best and 141 00:08:22,050 --> 00:08:24,930 it's going to be tough. Gerwig at Barbie, get this, I'm 142 00:08:24,930 --> 00:08:26,770 not. So big Ricky. 143 00:08:27,050 --> 00:08:29,170 I know, I know, I know. It's. 144 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:31,730 I'm just, I'm being cautious because we've thought this 145 00:08:31,730 --> 00:08:32,929 before like look at the Interstellar. 146 00:08:33,289 --> 00:08:37,049 So like, yes, I I think critically this at the time. 147 00:08:37,669 --> 00:08:41,909 It was still like, OK, but the there was a huge buzz about it. 148 00:08:42,150 --> 00:08:45,350 Like, dude, this made over $700 million at the box office. 149 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:49,030 Like huge amount of money. Like it made more than The 150 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:53,510 Martian starring Matt Damon. A few like a year or two after 151 00:08:53,510 --> 00:08:57,110 this didn't make as much as Inception, which made 840 152 00:08:57,110 --> 00:09:00,110 million, but still like. That's in the middle of The Dark 153 00:09:00,110 --> 00:09:00,630 Knight. Trailer. 154 00:09:00,630 --> 00:09:02,910 Yeah, exactly. So like, he's still like, 155 00:09:03,310 --> 00:09:05,190 everyone loved this movie for the most part. 156 00:09:05,190 --> 00:09:07,030 Like, at least like, they went to see it and they were. 157 00:09:07,570 --> 00:09:10,730 In awe, you know, that's like why you go to the movies, like 158 00:09:10,810 --> 00:09:13,690 this type of movie and like looking at the Ron Tomato score 159 00:09:13,930 --> 00:09:15,930 versus IMDb is just completely shocking. 160 00:09:16,250 --> 00:09:18,330 If I had to guess like what the Ron Tomato score for this movie 161 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:21,050 would have been, I would have been like high 80s, maybe low 162 00:09:21,050 --> 00:09:22,650 90s. Because at the time when this 163 00:09:22,650 --> 00:09:25,810 came out and like 2014, it was like, Oh my God, have you seen 164 00:09:25,810 --> 00:09:27,450 an Interstellar? Have you seen an Interstellar? 165 00:09:27,450 --> 00:09:28,930 It was like a part of the culture to talk about. 166 00:09:28,930 --> 00:09:32,930 It only has a 73% on Rotten Tomatoes, 86%. 167 00:09:33,580 --> 00:09:36,140 Audience scored. So overall like I think you're 168 00:09:36,140 --> 00:09:40,740 right, but same time it's like it's just it did have it's run. 169 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:43,740 And the IMDb is one of the highest rated in Nolan's career 170 00:09:43,740 --> 00:09:46,300 at 8.7 out of 10 like. That crazy to see that. 171 00:09:46,580 --> 00:09:48,580 High, like The Dark Knight is a 9.0. 172 00:09:48,580 --> 00:09:52,820 It's one of the highest rated IMDb films of all time and in 173 00:09:52,820 --> 00:09:57,900 comparison like Dunkirk has like a 7.2 out of 10 on IMDb but has 174 00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:01,060 like a 90 plus percent on Rotten Tomatoes. 175 00:10:01,220 --> 00:10:05,570 But I think Interstellar. Is where Nolan got that negative 176 00:10:05,570 --> 00:10:09,210 stigma of thinking He is too smart for the audiences he 177 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:11,490 creates movies for. I think this was the beginning. 178 00:10:11,730 --> 00:10:16,330 Inception, you could argue, is like basically that, that entry 179 00:10:16,330 --> 00:10:20,090 point into that type of like idea or like that. 180 00:10:20,370 --> 00:10:23,450 Nolan is that type of dude where he's just too high concept. 181 00:10:23,650 --> 00:10:26,010 But I think Interstellar took it and ran with it, with all the 182 00:10:26,370 --> 00:10:29,850 astrology and the scientific jargon that goes with the movie, 183 00:10:30,210 --> 00:10:33,260 but a part of like. What at my takeaways after re 184 00:10:33,260 --> 00:10:37,940 watching this like there's a bunch of like astrological 185 00:10:37,940 --> 00:10:41,820 jargon slash bullshit that's happening, but there is a 186 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:45,380 surface level story that I think was relatively easy to follow. 187 00:10:45,780 --> 00:10:48,780 So I think like the idea of Interstellar being this movie 188 00:10:48,780 --> 00:10:51,660 that's impossible to understand. I think that's an overrated 189 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:53,740 statement. At the end of the day, it's 190 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:57,020 these people going on a journey. They want to make sure and try 191 00:10:57,020 --> 00:10:59,020 and find a way to save these people on Earth. 192 00:10:59,260 --> 00:11:02,740 They want to try and find like this inhabitable planet, right? 193 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:06,260 And at the anchor of the story, it's this relationship between 194 00:11:06,420 --> 00:11:08,700 this father and his genius daughter. 195 00:11:08,980 --> 00:11:11,260 That's, that's the story, you know. 196 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:13,580 And I think there's just a lot of bullshit involved that people 197 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:16,900 like always just say all the dialogue you can look down on a 198 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:18,700 little bit like it's not the greatest. 199 00:11:19,260 --> 00:11:21,940 What I think this movie actually has a good amount of emotion and 200 00:11:21,940 --> 00:11:24,580 it's relatively accessible to audiences. 201 00:11:24,580 --> 00:11:25,860 Do you agree? On this. 202 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:29,780 So this movie gets better every time you rewatch it. 203 00:11:30,340 --> 00:11:33,380 And usually people like the part of the rhetoric around this 204 00:11:33,380 --> 00:11:35,140 movie when it came out. Like did you see it because of 205 00:11:35,140 --> 00:11:38,460 the twists, You know, like all these different, the cameo that 206 00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:42,140 happens, the big, the, the big twist with that, then the big 207 00:11:42,140 --> 00:11:45,460 twist at the end, time jumps, the ghost time jumps, things 208 00:11:45,460 --> 00:11:47,820 like that, right. So that's what you think 209 00:11:47,820 --> 00:11:50,550 initially, like a Nolan movie. And so it's like, oh, it's never 210 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:53,350 get better after you know what's going to happen, right? 211 00:11:53,710 --> 00:11:56,190 But this movie when when you rewatch it, you start picking up 212 00:11:56,190 --> 00:11:58,990 all the little pieces of dialogue that are alluding to 213 00:11:58,990 --> 00:12:00,830 that ending or alluding to something else down the road. 214 00:12:00,830 --> 00:12:07,030 The 90% honesty and these themes of honesty, love, loneliness, 215 00:12:07,750 --> 00:12:12,270 lost time, they all hit so hard because this movie. 216 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:15,790 You could make an I I'll say it this is most emotional to 217 00:12:15,790 --> 00:12:17,550 Christopher Nolan film there is. Yeah. 218 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:19,750 Well, I wanted to get to it a little bit later, but we can 219 00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:22,150 have a little jumpstart to the conversation now because I agree 220 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:26,230 100%, yeah. And and it again I think you're 221 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:30,030 right people got to at when this came out in 2014 people were two 222 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:33,390 in the all like they're trying so or he's trying so hard to try 223 00:12:33,390 --> 00:12:35,830 to explain this to us you know and through the dialogue 224 00:12:35,830 --> 00:12:37,790 especially right yes it's way over stuffed. 225 00:12:37,950 --> 00:12:40,110 Trying to be getting accurate as possible you. 226 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:43,210 Know just again I appreciate it. As an audience, I appreciate 227 00:12:43,210 --> 00:12:46,770 that, but like again, like even though it did well on IMDb 228 00:12:46,770 --> 00:12:50,450 didn't do as well and Ron tomatoes 73% and at the Oscars 229 00:12:51,290 --> 00:12:55,370 like the only thing that got nominated for was sound mixing, 230 00:12:55,370 --> 00:12:59,930 production design, score, visual effects and sound editing. 231 00:13:00,210 --> 00:13:02,290 So basically everything around the sound of this movie, which 232 00:13:02,290 --> 00:13:04,890 is stunning. We call that the Nolan Awards. 233 00:13:05,590 --> 00:13:06,950 But like, not even cinematography. 234 00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:09,110 Like, not even like, like some of the ones that you'd be like, 235 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:11,670 Oh my God, like there's a lot of known things that aren't even 236 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:13,950 attributed here, you know, original story. 237 00:13:14,190 --> 00:13:17,230 No, definitely not. You know, so like this got shut 238 00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:21,430 out, which makes me nervous for Oppenheimer and the no one's 239 00:13:21,430 --> 00:13:25,310 stigma, you know, like Dunkirk. He got not, I think, I don't 240 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:27,230 think, I don't know if he got nominated for Dunkirk either. 241 00:13:27,230 --> 00:13:29,030 And that was like what Tarantino's is. 242 00:13:29,070 --> 00:13:33,470 The best movie, 21st century. Yeah, so when I like, I think 243 00:13:33,470 --> 00:13:35,190 it's weird that it got shut out because. 244 00:13:35,510 --> 00:13:38,670 The other stigma was like him, like we talked about thinking 245 00:13:38,670 --> 00:13:40,710 he's smarter than the audience, right? 246 00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:43,110 But also the lack of emotion in his films. 247 00:13:43,390 --> 00:13:47,910 That's a people like tend to criticize him for and it's more 248 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:50,350 about the spectacle and it's more about the jaw-dropping 249 00:13:50,350 --> 00:13:52,110 moments. And he does provide that. 250 00:13:52,390 --> 00:13:54,030 But I think it's got to the point where it's actually 251 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:56,510 underrated in his films, The emotionality. 252 00:13:56,750 --> 00:14:00,350 It certainly takes place in Interstellar and what I would 253 00:14:00,350 --> 00:14:02,510 say doesn't really work in Interstellar. 254 00:14:02,860 --> 00:14:07,060 Is the balancing of all the astrology with the emotion. 255 00:14:07,220 --> 00:14:09,820 It feels like a way. It weighs super heavy one way 256 00:14:09,820 --> 00:14:12,460 and super heavy in the other, and it doesn't find that happy 257 00:14:12,460 --> 00:14:15,300 medium to make it like a fully realized film. 258 00:14:15,380 --> 00:14:17,100 That's that's the way I feel about it. 259 00:14:17,660 --> 00:14:20,140 But you need that emotional aspect that I think it's 260 00:14:20,140 --> 00:14:23,540 actually done through amazing performances, specifically by 261 00:14:23,540 --> 00:14:25,540 Matthew McConaughey. And we're going to get to him 262 00:14:25,540 --> 00:14:27,540 and we're going to talk about like this era for him because 263 00:14:27,540 --> 00:14:30,340 it's one of the greatest runs. By an actor ever. 264 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:35,540 But I thought he was at the peak of his powers in this film and 265 00:14:35,780 --> 00:14:39,540 he was just the perfect guy to lead a Christopher Nolan movie 266 00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:43,100 in 2014. You could not ask for a better 267 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:47,100 blockbuster leading man for a nonsuperhero project before the 268 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:51,300 superhero boom, like, takes that second wave in the second phase 269 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:53,860 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe like he was. 270 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:56,500 It was just. The like the director coming off 271 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:59,100 The Dark Knight, Matthew McConaughey, the strongest, 272 00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:02,740 acting like gravitational force in the industry. 273 00:15:03,020 --> 00:15:04,500 It just seemed like a match made in heaven. 274 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:07,780 And he was someone that I actually believed as the 275 00:15:07,780 --> 00:15:11,860 scientist and also the cool dad, you know, where there was a lot 276 00:15:11,860 --> 00:15:14,420 of emotionality. There's parts that rip me apart 277 00:15:14,420 --> 00:15:17,220 and like imagining him saying goodbye to his kid in the great 278 00:15:17,220 --> 00:15:22,060 reunion at the end, but also I believed him as being the best. 279 00:15:22,810 --> 00:15:26,290 Astronaut or best pilot that NASA ever had to, which is 280 00:15:26,290 --> 00:15:28,530 really weird because if I said that about Matthew McConaughey 281 00:15:28,530 --> 00:15:31,650 in like 2009, you would have thought I was crazy, but I 282 00:15:31,690 --> 00:15:33,810 thought he was absolutely magnificent on this rewatch. 283 00:15:34,210 --> 00:15:37,570 Yeah, Cuz like he's a smart guy, you know, he's and he's clever, 284 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:41,570 quick, widded, you know, But he's also like in the movie, he 285 00:15:41,570 --> 00:15:43,930 says like he's an explorer adventure in real life. 286 00:15:43,930 --> 00:15:46,530 He's explorer adventure in his role. 287 00:15:46,530 --> 00:15:50,410 You know, pioneer, you know. So you buy that from a pilot, 288 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:51,970 you know, Cuz again, he's not like. 289 00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:56,390 He is obviously very smart, but he's not like all the other 290 00:15:56,390 --> 00:15:59,430 people in the crew who are literally geniuses, right? 291 00:15:59,430 --> 00:16:01,910 You know, like they are. They are literally like the guys 292 00:16:01,910 --> 00:16:06,470 are studying black holes, for God's sakes, Like, like Magic 293 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:08,710 County is like, how can I not use enough fuel? 294 00:16:08,830 --> 00:16:12,950 So we get down to that seven hour, every hour or seven, 295 00:16:12,990 --> 00:16:16,550 whatever, seven years, every hour planet in the least amount 296 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:18,230 of time. Like how well he's trying to do 297 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:20,390 that versus this guy is trying to figure out how to save the 298 00:16:21,150 --> 00:16:23,580 Earth. Like, completely different types 299 00:16:23,620 --> 00:16:28,420 of genius level. But I'll, I'll say this, I can't 300 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:32,100 say like, he should have been nominated for an Oscar. 301 00:16:32,460 --> 00:16:34,780 I can't say he should have won because Eddie Redmayne won for 302 00:16:34,780 --> 00:16:37,460 The Theory of Everything and that's just like a classic 303 00:16:37,460 --> 00:16:39,100 Oscar, Like you're going to win that. 304 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:40,820 But Mcconney should have been nominated. 305 00:16:41,060 --> 00:16:43,460 I thought he was stunning. Every time I watch this, he gets 306 00:16:43,460 --> 00:16:46,420 better and better every time. Like near perfect performance. 307 00:16:47,050 --> 00:16:49,210 This was the end of the Mcconnaissance. 308 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:52,490 This was the last movie if you marked it in a timeline and we 309 00:16:52,490 --> 00:16:55,730 talked about a couple weeks back we did the Harrison Ford draft 310 00:16:56,290 --> 00:17:00,290 for Dial Destiny, which we reviewed, check it out on our 311 00:17:00,290 --> 00:17:03,970 feed. But then we posed a question to 312 00:17:04,130 --> 00:17:08,490 you guys, right, the listeners on what actor could compete with 313 00:17:08,569 --> 00:17:13,810 a three-year run alongside Harrison Ford and the One. 314 00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:17,900 Viable response. The one that made sense the most 315 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:20,339 shockingly was Matthew McConaughey. 316 00:17:20,660 --> 00:17:23,460 Some people tried to say like Arnold in the 80s, but there was 317 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:28,980 like year gaps when you ripped off 2012, 1314. 318 00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:32,700 For Matthew McConaughey, it's one of the greatest runs of all 319 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:35,500 time. 2012. He tries to divert, goes more in 320 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:37,780 the dramatic realm. Has mud right? 321 00:17:37,780 --> 00:17:40,180 Not seen by much but definitely well received. 322 00:17:40,420 --> 00:17:44,000 And then he has Magic Mike. Steven Soderbergh film. 323 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,560 He does not the starring role, but he's certainly the scene 324 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,600 stealer. And then he carries that over 325 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,040 into 2013 with a scene stealing role in Wolf of Wall Street. 326 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,880 Also Dallas Buyers Club gets nominated and then wins. 327 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:01,560 The Oscar has that phenomenal acceptance speech at the Oscars 328 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,920 where he's already always chasing his ghost, which kind of 329 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,240 connects to Interstellar. Then 2014 he comes with True 330 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,300 Detective. Wins the Emmy for Best Lead 331 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:17,780 Actor and then has Interstellar. That is an insane 6 project rip 332 00:18:17,780 --> 00:18:22,020 that he goes on and it ends with Interstellar and it's like he's 333 00:18:22,020 --> 00:18:24,780 not the same guy since and that's why Ricky flicks. 334 00:18:24,820 --> 00:18:29,820 I want to bring back a segment for a second because it's hard 335 00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:33,460 to match that high and you could argue no actor will, but what 336 00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:34,980 has he done since? So Ricky flicks. 337 00:18:34,980 --> 00:18:36,380 There's a gun to your head right now. 338 00:18:37,370 --> 00:18:40,410 I want you to give me 5 movies from Matthew McConaughey post 339 00:18:40,410 --> 00:18:45,690 2014. Go gold Free, State of Jones, 340 00:18:47,730 --> 00:18:50,130 Okay. That's a good start. 341 00:18:52,010 --> 00:18:53,410 I can't believe that was its first two. 342 00:18:53,410 --> 00:18:54,650 You ripped. That's crazy. 343 00:18:55,090 --> 00:18:56,890 Yeah, cuz Free State of Jones, dude. 344 00:18:56,890 --> 00:18:58,570 Like, I just. Talk, we'll get back to it. 345 00:18:58,570 --> 00:19:00,170 Go ahead. Free State of Jones like that 346 00:19:00,170 --> 00:19:02,400 was like. Like, that was my Oscar. 347 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,760 Like, that's like the oh, that movie's going to be insane. 348 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,120 You're buying time. You're buying time. 349 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,200 Let's go. Gun to your head. 350 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,800 I'll do the Philip Seymour Hoffman countdown if I ask you 351 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,440 well. He hasn't been doing a sing. 352 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,560 He was in sing. Three. 353 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,280 Let's go 10 seconds. Not like a in person role. 354 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,640 Go 10 seconds. I don't know. 355 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,920 Then yeah, I'm not going to win this. 356 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:30,590 Weed. Oh, the the bomb Beach bomb. 357 00:19:30,750 --> 00:19:33,390 Beach bomb. But not no other weed, White 358 00:19:33,390 --> 00:19:33,990 boy. Rick. 359 00:19:34,190 --> 00:19:36,470 Oh, OK that. OK, we'll give it to you. 360 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:39,670 I was thinking the gentleman. Yeah, I was thinking The Dark 361 00:19:39,670 --> 00:19:44,030 Tower. Dark Tower, yes, but like it's 362 00:19:44,030 --> 00:19:47,030 it's it's cringe worthy to say out loud after I just gave you 363 00:19:47,030 --> 00:19:49,430 that 6 project run that he goes on. 364 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:53,630 Like he's doing like an animated like Agent Elvis movie. 365 00:19:53,670 --> 00:19:55,750 You know that he's voicing Elvis as like. 366 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,280 This person that's recruited by the president to go on these, 367 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,160 like go on these missions, it seems like he even recognizes, 368 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,960 like I will never top that run. I will never be that guy again. 369 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,200 And he's become just more of a persona than a performer or an 370 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,880 actor. So I just, I don't know, I want 371 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,160 to get your thoughts on this run because when we were in high 372 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,120 school into our early years of college, he was bigger than 373 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:22,240 Leonardo DiCaprio. That's how big Mcconaugh he was. 374 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,600 Like he was. Everywhere at the time. 375 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,320 And he wasn't to be found in a superhero project, and that's 376 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,480 what made it so cool. He was too cool to be in those 377 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,880 projects. Everyone's was fan casting being 378 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,280 this or that. He's now What is the McConaughey 379 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,720 thing? I'm going to be in a Christopher 380 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,160 Nolan epic scifi epic. That's going to be a movie that 381 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,640 people talk about for years and people make comparisons to 2001. 382 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,320 A Space Odyssey. What is the hell of a way to cap 383 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,930 this Mconnaissance? Yeah, like, I think going back 384 00:20:50,930 --> 00:20:53,170 to like the Run, like Wolf of Wall Street, like that's just a 385 00:20:53,170 --> 00:20:55,610 cameo, you know, glorified cameo role. 386 00:20:55,610 --> 00:20:58,890 You know, like if we're just being honest here and. 387 00:20:59,050 --> 00:21:03,330 Performance in the movie. OK, but you see what I'm saying? 388 00:21:03,330 --> 00:21:05,370 True Detectives is TV show, right? 389 00:21:05,410 --> 00:21:08,370 Even even though it's each BL Interstellar. 390 00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:13,050 Like he's leading a big budget $160 million budget movie. 391 00:21:13,050 --> 00:21:14,210 Like basically a superhero movie. 392 00:21:14,770 --> 00:21:17,970 You know, space movie, CRISPR, no one else from filmmaker and 393 00:21:19,010 --> 00:21:21,490 like the Dallas Bars Club, that's like a small budget 394 00:21:21,490 --> 00:21:23,810 movie. You know, that's like, oh, like 395 00:21:24,010 --> 00:21:26,410 like when Robert Pattinson needed to switch out from 396 00:21:26,450 --> 00:21:28,250 Twilight, need to go the indie route. 397 00:21:28,410 --> 00:21:30,210 Like that's kind of what he did with MUD. 398 00:21:30,370 --> 00:21:34,290 That's what he did. Not Magic Mike, but you know, 399 00:21:34,290 --> 00:21:35,930 Magic Mike with a glorified cameo. 400 00:21:36,050 --> 00:21:39,450 Like, you know what I'm saying? You kind of had to do that. 401 00:21:39,610 --> 00:21:42,130 Interstel was like put it all together. 402 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:47,500 All his charm, all his charisma, but yet his talent as an actor, 403 00:21:47,620 --> 00:21:52,620 the emotional punch, you know, like everything, like his whole 404 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:54,620 career is encompassed around Interstellar. 405 00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:58,220 And that's why for me, like it's. 406 00:21:59,450 --> 00:22:01,610 I want to say his best performance too, but I'm not 407 00:22:01,970 --> 00:22:04,210 well I want to say. I was gonna say we can even rank 408 00:22:04,210 --> 00:22:06,250 them a connoissance right now. Like #1. 409 00:22:06,250 --> 00:22:08,330 Let's say True Detectives is best performance. 410 00:22:08,330 --> 00:22:10,050 Cuz it Yeah, Yeah, that. Sorry. 411 00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:12,050 That's like. True detectives, his best 412 00:22:12,050 --> 00:22:15,450 performance and I honestly would like. 413 00:22:15,530 --> 00:22:17,490 Interstellar. I want to put in a store too. 414 00:22:17,930 --> 00:22:18,850 I do. I do. 415 00:22:18,850 --> 00:22:20,970 But I honestly want to put Wolf of Wall Street into bro. 416 00:22:21,490 --> 00:22:22,490 That's crazy. Why? 417 00:22:23,090 --> 00:22:27,140 Why is that crazy? Every 15 minutes I want 2 418 00:22:27,140 --> 00:22:29,980 martinis and. Like what actor could have done 419 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:33,260 what he did in that movie? It was like so Makana he it 420 00:22:33,260 --> 00:22:36,860 would just felt like no one else could have pulled off that. 421 00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:41,540 Like basically Leo becomes like you had to be like Leo like 422 00:22:41,540 --> 00:22:44,420 Belfort before Belfort. Like how did he learn it all? 423 00:22:44,660 --> 00:22:48,700 And like the way that Mark Hanna is in that movie, then you buy 424 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:50,500 that Leo makes that transformation into him. 425 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:54,140 This guy was his mentor and this guy, it's like I am following 426 00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:56,360 this guy like. Follow the leader. 427 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,920 Like it just felt like a perfect cameo for Scorsese movie. 428 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240 I don't know. I just think it's just literally 429 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,920 probably the best thing he's done in a film, despite the size 430 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,720 of it. OK. 431 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,440 But if you want to say like actual large scale True 432 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,120 Detective and then I'm OK with Interstellar and then Dallas 433 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,880 Buyers Club, you know, and that's where he wins his Oscar, 434 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,360 which is. Kind of wild and it's and I 435 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,960 think it is obviously was exceptional but like I'm not 436 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,520 trying to take away Dallas Buyers Club phenomenal. 437 00:23:24,890 --> 00:23:28,170 Also, Jerry Leto, phenomenal. You know, that was just like an 438 00:23:28,170 --> 00:23:30,330 unreal, like just duo that's going at it. 439 00:23:30,610 --> 00:23:34,730 Both win the, both win Oscars. Like that's just rarely been 440 00:23:34,730 --> 00:23:37,850 done like less than five times or something Like when both the 441 00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:41,650 actor and supporting actor win the Oscar, you know, like 442 00:23:42,730 --> 00:23:46,210 absurd. But overall, like Mcconney just 443 00:23:46,210 --> 00:23:50,530 during that time, like, you're right, like his height was so 444 00:23:50,530 --> 00:23:51,600 high. Right. 445 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,920 And it felt like that Oscars won that picture. 446 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,280 When he, like, leans back in the chair after they say his name, 447 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,440 you know, it's just like. This is owned if he was on top 448 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,340 of the. World dude. 449 00:24:02,340 --> 00:24:06,300 Like literally at when he won that Oscar, he like I think he 450 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:07,780 saw God. He liked dude. 451 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:09,260 He. Beat out Leo. 452 00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:12,300 Like, that was like one of the greatest best actors that we've 453 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:13,420 ever had. Like at the Oscars. 454 00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:15,020 The 2014 Oscars. Let me pull it up. 455 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:18,260 Insane, dude. That McConaughey would win an 456 00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:21,420 Oscar before Leo if you said that in the late 2000s would be 457 00:24:21,580 --> 00:24:23,540 nuts. So like, obviously Mcconney 458 00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:26,300 wins. We Leo Wolf of Wall Street 459 00:24:26,380 --> 00:24:28,740 again. Leo not having an Oscar to his 460 00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:30,660 name, yet he wouldn't win till then. 461 00:24:31,860 --> 00:24:35,020 The next year, so. Or two years from that and that. 462 00:24:35,180 --> 00:24:38,620 So like, he still hasn't like the greatest actors ever lived 463 00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:41,860 and still hasn't gotten an Oscar and they give it to Mcconney for 464 00:24:41,860 --> 00:24:43,940 Dallas Buyers Club. And just two years earlier he's 465 00:24:43,940 --> 00:24:47,220 doing ROM coms like goes to Girlfriends past. 466 00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:50,660 That's how good he was in that. But Bruce Dern, who's like a 467 00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:55,620 Hollywood legend, Shatwill Oak to 412 Years a Slave, obviously 468 00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:57,180 a huge movie Best Picture winner. 469 00:24:57,180 --> 00:25:00,940 And then none other than Christian Bale also nominated. 470 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,680 God beats up legend after legend, dude. 471 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,120 Just insane. So like you got to give him 472 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:07,760 credit and like. He's like the one who doesn't 473 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,880 belong on that list. When you looked at that that 474 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,960 list of names, you're like, you're this is not an Oscar name 475 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,360 and he's the guy who comes down on top. 476 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:16,400 That's nuts. But like, when you look back at 477 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,720 Oscar wins, you know, we always say like, oh, like they 478 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720 shouldn't have won. You know, like we might do that. 479 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,160 Everything, everywhere, all once, to be honest. 480 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,880 Like Shape of Water, like Dunkirk was the same year as 481 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,800 that. Dunkirk's a better movie. 482 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,200 The Shape of Water. No bias, I'm saying that, but 483 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,840 like Shape of Water. Won the Ice Green Book, you 484 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,680 know, But other movies shouldn't have won Matthew. 485 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,800 Connie should have won this Oscar for most people still 10 486 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,240 years later, You know, like, it's not like one of those where 487 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,880 it's like, oh, like they just gave it to him. 488 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,520 No, like he deserved. Yeah, No. 489 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,680 So we'll talk about his performance a little bit later 490 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,480 when we get to like the cast and everything. 491 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,480 But jumping into Interstellar a little bit, I want to know your 492 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,560 circumstances, Ricky. Did you see this in theaters? 493 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,730 Personally, I did not. And it was one of the greatest 494 00:26:01,730 --> 00:26:04,650 tragedies in my life that I never saw Interstellar in a 495 00:26:04,650 --> 00:26:06,090 theater. I feel like it's like, you're 496 00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:08,490 going against. I'm going against my morals if I 497 00:26:08,490 --> 00:26:10,130 don't see a Christopher Nolan movie in a theater. 498 00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:12,290 But the first time I saw it, I was in college. 499 00:26:12,290 --> 00:26:15,170 I was. I was actually like a sophomore, 500 00:26:15,170 --> 00:26:17,930 I think, in college. And it was years after the movie 501 00:26:17,930 --> 00:26:23,410 had come out, maybe one or two, and we got it on Red Box at Stop 502 00:26:23,410 --> 00:26:27,690 and Shop. And I was with our former 503 00:26:27,690 --> 00:26:29,450 cohost, Nez, and I was just like, hey. 504 00:26:29,910 --> 00:26:31,150 Let's watch Interstellar tonight. 505 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:33,350 Nobody else cared. They fell asleep in the first 506 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:36,110 hour. But Nick and I were locked in, 507 00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:40,670 and I don't think I blinked From the moment you had the docking 508 00:26:40,670 --> 00:26:43,830 station spinning and then trying to dock right? 509 00:26:44,030 --> 00:26:47,110 The shuttle. And literally for the next hour 510 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:48,310 and a half, I don't think I blinked. 511 00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:50,710 I was totally mesmerized by the film. 512 00:26:51,390 --> 00:26:56,310 The black hole Gargantua, like, literally owned my brain in real 513 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:58,190 estate, in my brain for the next like. 514 00:26:58,590 --> 00:27:01,550 Two weeks and I couldn't stop talking about the film and I was 515 00:27:01,550 --> 00:27:03,310 just crushed inside. I didn't get to see it in 516 00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:05,110 theaters. Did you get to see an 517 00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:07,030 experienced Interstellar at the cinema? 518 00:27:07,670 --> 00:27:09,750 Alright, I have a two-part answer to this. 519 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:13,230 So it was after the week opening week of this movie. 520 00:27:13,790 --> 00:27:16,070 OK and I'm planning to see this in theaters. 521 00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:17,110 I couldn't see it opening weekend. 522 00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:19,830 I forget what I was doing. I was in high school and I 523 00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:24,270 remember like you our other brother Big Mike. 524 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,640 Former guest of the pod and like some of your your buddies were 525 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,520 down in our basement. Oh my God. 526 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,800 And like chitchat and like I just went downstairs to grab 527 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,040 something that stir up conversation with somebody and 528 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,600 you guys talk about Interstellar. 529 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,520 I was like, crap, I haven't seen it. 530 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,600 I've always say it out loud or something and then big Mike just 531 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,920 reveals the big cameo. Just spoils it for me. 532 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,400 Just absolutely spoils the movie. 533 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,040 The biggest cameo surprise. Appearance from one of our 534 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,840 favorite actors. It's just like. 535 00:27:54,550 --> 00:27:57,110 Yeah, everyone was just like, bro, like what are you doing? 536 00:27:57,350 --> 00:28:00,950 And I was just crushed. So I didn't see in theaters 537 00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:02,270 after that. I just decided not to. 538 00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:03,510 Like I didn't. I don't know. 539 00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:07,950 I just, I was so butt hurt about that and it was just a tragedy. 540 00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:11,430 So then I didn't see in theaters and the first time I watched it 541 00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:13,350 wasn't until years later I couldn't get over that. 542 00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:18,110 I I literally couldn't. I didn't watch it until 2017 and 543 00:28:18,110 --> 00:28:22,310 I watched it with Johnny Sims, another guest of the pod and. 544 00:28:22,910 --> 00:28:26,950 I was a junior in college and I remember we blacked out the 545 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:31,470 whole dorm and we had these huge speakers, like massive speakers 546 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:33,670 that we had. So we blacked out our whole room 547 00:28:33,790 --> 00:28:38,270 late at night, put the speakers full blast and watching A star 548 00:28:38,270 --> 00:28:39,950 in the complete darkness like a movie theater. 549 00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:43,030 We try to make it as much like an IMAX screening as possible. 550 00:28:43,630 --> 00:28:46,110 And I was blown away. It lives up the expectations. 551 00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:49,750 Still pissed that big mic to this day about that, but but Oh 552 00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:52,230 well, let bygones be bygones, I guess. 553 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,720 Yeah, and Mike didn't only spoil it for you, he spoiled it for my 554 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,240 other friends who had not seen the movie either. 555 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,280 And they're Boston guys until like, this is spoiler review and 556 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360 this throwback review. So like, we're just like, we're 557 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,760 talking about Matt Damon, obviously. 558 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,160 So like when our brother mentions that Matt Damon's in 559 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,240 the movie, my buddy who's like just he went to school in Boston 560 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440 just north of Boston. Massive Red Sox fan. 561 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,360 When he hears that Matt Damon was in the movie, he his jaw 562 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,630 dropped because. He was just flabbergasted 563 00:29:19,630 --> 00:29:22,230 because like, that's his guy. Him and Affleck, like he'll 564 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:24,630 watch anything that they do. And he couldn't believe it 565 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:27,590 because obviously Matt Damon wasn't promoted to be in the 566 00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:29,910 film, right? Has a bit relatively small part. 567 00:29:29,910 --> 00:29:34,230 But if you rewatch Interstellar, like if you know Matt Damon is 568 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:38,910 coming and you haven't seen the film, it's very easy to forecast 569 00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:42,070 when he's coming and you know what character he's playing. 570 00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:44,940 And that's, that's something I noticed on my rewatch, where 571 00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:47,660 they talk about Doctor Man, they talk about the Lazarus missions, 572 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:48,980 right? The first data that's 573 00:29:48,980 --> 00:29:52,340 accumulated to try and, like send from like, this alternate 574 00:29:52,340 --> 00:29:56,860 worlds to Earth, right, and prove this gravitational theory 575 00:29:56,860 --> 00:30:02,140 for Michael Caine's character. Like there is, they point to a 576 00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:05,380 picture of the Lazarus missions. They go through like a couple of 577 00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:07,700 the scientists and the astronauts, and they don't go to 578 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:10,880 the glass guy and they zoom out. And like, Okay, that's Doctor 579 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,840 man, we're going to be seeing this guy, right? 580 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,280 And it has one of the great twists, I think, in movie recent 581 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,920 movie history, right? Not only because of like the 582 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,960 star that is there, but also like, when I was rewatching, I 583 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,280 was thinking about it, like, what would I done if I was this 584 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,760 scientist who had been stranded on this planet for years? 585 00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:37,990 And maybe I would not have gone to the lengths of, like, making 586 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:39,750 up all this data. Maybe I would have been a little 587 00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:42,910 more blunt or straightforward. But the fact that there's a 588 00:30:42,910 --> 00:30:45,590 chance they don't go home after this, right? 589 00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:48,590 I'm going to do whatever it takes to make it back because 590 00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:53,430 I've lost my entire life. You know, I like, did you think 591 00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:56,390 about it any differently, like the decisions from Damon? 592 00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:59,030 It was painful to watch. Then it was still hurt, like, 593 00:30:59,030 --> 00:31:01,490 hard to watch here. But I was trying to think about 594 00:31:01,490 --> 00:31:03,490 what I would have done in this situation, What a hard life this 595 00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:05,930 guy has lived because of these Lazarus missions. 596 00:31:06,730 --> 00:31:11,250 It's so it's such a amazing cameo because I'm not saying 597 00:31:11,250 --> 00:31:14,890 Matt Damon, like, is at the level of acting like Matt Conay 598 00:31:14,890 --> 00:31:16,490 wasn't his cameo and Wolf of Wall Street. 599 00:31:16,490 --> 00:31:20,010 I'm not saying that. But what I'm saying is Matt 600 00:31:20,010 --> 00:31:23,210 Damon, if you view that day before Interstellar, he only 601 00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:25,890 plays good guys. Like he's the good guy, you 602 00:31:25,890 --> 00:31:27,450 know? Everyone loves Matt Damon. 603 00:31:27,730 --> 00:31:30,010 That's why him and the Jimmy Kimmel riff is funny. 604 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400 It's like everyone loves Matt Damon, makes him look like kind 605 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,200 of a jerk so and then a star. They just completely use that to 606 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880 their advantage and flip it. That's why the twist is so good. 607 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,440 He's. Never been more hateable ever. 608 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,680 Yeah. This is the only movie he does 609 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,680 play like quote UN quote bad guy like Euro trip that cameo but 610 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,960 like not just funny. This is just like he's a truly 611 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720 bad person and. And he's not even that. 612 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,120 Bad. You know, like he, like, 613 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,480 obviously he's not servicing the mission like he said he was 614 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,080 going to initially. But like, it's more about like 615 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,040 he still thinks he's doing things in the name of science. 616 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,240 You know, that's how he grounds his character, right? 617 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,480 He's trying to come off as like he's not acting selfishly, but 618 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,590 he is. Like, like he when he knocks out 619 00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:17,350 McConaughey, he goes like, I want to be able to be with you 620 00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:19,790 when you die, but I can't, so I'm sorry. 621 00:32:20,150 --> 00:32:23,030 And then he's saying, like, so weird kids, Do you see your 622 00:32:23,030 --> 00:32:24,990 kids? It really is a weird 623 00:32:24,990 --> 00:32:27,950 performance. Honestly, yes, it's good, but 624 00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:31,190 it's really awkward and weird how he like just trying to 625 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:34,310 justify every decision that he does, despite it being like the 626 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:38,030 morally wrong one at every turn. And it's it's also like really 627 00:32:38,110 --> 00:32:40,150 weird. Sorry, but it's really weird 628 00:32:40,550 --> 00:32:44,570 that this comes. The head of The Martian, and 629 00:32:44,970 --> 00:32:48,170 it's kind of just like almost like a reciprocal of the 630 00:32:48,170 --> 00:32:50,090 character that he plays in The Martian. 631 00:32:50,290 --> 00:32:53,130 The Martians. Like a good guy you root for 632 00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:56,930 alone on a planet. He is an asshole, interstellar 633 00:32:57,290 --> 00:32:59,610 alone on a planet that is found right. 634 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:02,170 It's almost like we wish we didn't find him and we were 635 00:33:02,170 --> 00:33:03,970 working so hard to find him in The Martian. 636 00:33:03,970 --> 00:33:07,170 It's just two opposite ends of the spectrum, but still like 637 00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:10,130 like surface level, same character. 638 00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:14,650 Yeah, exactly. And like, at the end, his end, I 639 00:33:14,650 --> 00:33:17,250 should say, when he's about to die, he's like, I'm doing this 640 00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:19,370 for mankind. It's like, bro, you literally 641 00:33:19,370 --> 00:33:21,730 fake data, so people will come pick you up and then you were 642 00:33:21,730 --> 00:33:24,050 going to kill one of them just so you could leave, you know, 643 00:33:24,050 --> 00:33:26,530 and continue living and not be alone and go back to Earth. 644 00:33:26,530 --> 00:33:31,650 Like, what were we doing? Like a complete, what's the word 645 00:33:31,650 --> 00:33:34,370 I'm looking for? Just like totally like, insane, 646 00:33:34,450 --> 00:33:36,500 insane. Yeah, he's delusional. 647 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:38,060 Delusional. Thank you. 648 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:40,580 He becomes delusional. And like that is one of the 649 00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:44,380 great after that twist and after he does that head button cracks 650 00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:48,180 Mcconaughey's helmet the next 30 minutes of the movie. 651 00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:50,700 It's breathtaking in the Hans Zimmer score. 652 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:53,420 We haven't talked about Hans Zimmer yet when that sets in. 653 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:57,060 And the greatest moment of the Hans Zimmer score is the docking 654 00:33:57,060 --> 00:33:58,710 scene in my eyes. Right. 655 00:33:58,710 --> 00:34:02,710 You could do a pinpoint a few scenes here, but the tension of 656 00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:05,790 that moment, even when I was watching it last night, my heart 657 00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:09,550 was absolutely racing. Absolutely racing. 658 00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:12,270 And then before they even get to the docking and where he's 659 00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:15,550 trying to make this miraculous parking of the shuttle like you 660 00:34:15,550 --> 00:34:21,110 have the race like to stop Matt Damon from taking over and 661 00:34:21,110 --> 00:34:23,949 docking his shuttle. It's just to me, it was just it 662 00:34:23,949 --> 00:34:28,030 was it was it was great because also it's like we just lost. 663 00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:32,150 Like Romney, which I think like Romney was out, like he was a 664 00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:36,270 great like glue guy for the team, you know, and I think that 665 00:34:36,270 --> 00:34:37,989 he has some interesting moments here. 666 00:34:38,190 --> 00:34:41,389 But when they like, it's basically just Anne Hathaway and 667 00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:43,989 Matthew McConaughey partners. And like partners. 668 00:34:44,030 --> 00:34:46,870 Like we have to do this together now and then coming together, 669 00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:51,230 right, to overtake Matt Damon in that moment and then them 670 00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:54,110 overcoming the odds, just it's really like just fantastic 671 00:34:54,110 --> 00:34:55,710 moment. But I would say like. 672 00:34:56,110 --> 00:34:57,310 They kind of forgot about Romney. 673 00:34:57,310 --> 00:34:58,990 They forgot about the people who died in this movie. 674 00:34:58,990 --> 00:35:01,470 Like they were like, OK, we got stuff to do, like we're there's 675 00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:03,230 no burials. There's no memorials here. 676 00:35:03,350 --> 00:35:06,310 We're on to the next mission. You know that part, like, I get 677 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:08,510 it, where lack of emotion and Nolan movies. 678 00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:12,070 Yeah, but like at the same time, like you know, they were out 679 00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:15,150 there for a long ass time. Like even just like like think 680 00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:20,790 about it like let's just say like not human years like earth 681 00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:23,710 years, but their years that they're out there. 682 00:35:23,710 --> 00:35:25,310 They're still there for several years. 683 00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:28,660 You know, so like throughout time you have to assume that 684 00:35:28,660 --> 00:35:31,660 they did do that at some point. It's already a two hour, 50 685 00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:33,260 minute movie. Like, we can't just be like 686 00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:35,980 Romney died. Like let's grieve him. 687 00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:37,940 No, let's get to the black hole running out of fuel. 688 00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:42,140 That integral of a character, Like, honestly, his best moment. 689 00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:45,500 It's not his best moment, but like the one that my jaw dropped 690 00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:48,940 is where they go to the first planet and they come back and 691 00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:52,980 he's been right at the docking station the entire time and they 692 00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:54,940 come back and he's 23 years older. 693 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,440 That's like the one of those moments where I'm like, holy 694 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,720 shit, like, Oh my God, now you're starting to feel the 695 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,640 stakes of what they're dealing with. 696 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,240 And like, yeah, we have to do this fast. 697 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,840 And once they did that, that's when, like, the science started 698 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,480 to set in. You're like, Oh my God, like 699 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,720 this is bad because, like, you can't. 700 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,320 You look at Romney with a Gray beard and all you do is think 701 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,480 about Murph and Timothy Shalame slash Casey Affleck character, 702 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,400 right. You just think about, like, his 703 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,280 kids at home, how old they're becoming and how they're caught 704 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,190 up already with McConaughey. It's just it's honestly a tragic 705 00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:29,790 moment, right? Yeah, the tragic moment with 706 00:36:29,790 --> 00:36:32,750 Romney being old. Yeah, yeah, that was the 707 00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:35,830 turning. That was like that whole scene 708 00:36:35,830 --> 00:36:39,230 sequence arguing, my favorite scene in the movie when they're 709 00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:41,510 on that planet. And then when they get back, 710 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:43,430 that was the turning point in the movie where it's like, holy 711 00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:45,440 crap. This isn't going to be as easy 712 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,760 as we thought. We're not going to visit three 713 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,120 planets. Not going to be. 714 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,040 Yeah, like we just lost Wes Bentley, another rip. 715 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,360 Like he finally gets a quote, UN quote bigger movie here for 716 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,720 himself. A bigger role I should say, and 717 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,200 he just dies in the 1st, at the end of the first act or the 718 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,440 beginning of the second act. Like it's classic. 719 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,560 Tough, tough. Go for him. 720 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,480 Classic W Bentley. But overall, like, you're right. 721 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,280 Like that was like the moment to hit off the audience and 722 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,920 obviously the characters. That was like, all right, we got 723 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,350 to get going here. It's like those moments though, 724 00:37:15,350 --> 00:37:17,990 like the jaw-dropping ones, but like the line where it's like, 725 00:37:18,190 --> 00:37:22,350 hey, we have to view time as we view like all these necessary 726 00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:25,030 resources like like we oxygen food. 727 00:37:25,550 --> 00:37:29,110 Like time is a resource like that that is something that we 728 00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:32,150 have a finite amount of and we need to like keep that in mind 729 00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:34,630 that you don't really sense it until that moment. 730 00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:38,390 But this is like a movie that has so many spectacular. 731 00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:42,330 Visuals inside of it and like other times where I was just 732 00:37:42,330 --> 00:37:44,130 blown away. Obviously you think of 733 00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:47,290 literally, I think Interstellar, everyone would say you think of 734 00:37:47,290 --> 00:37:51,210 visual effects immediately and whether it be initially with 735 00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:56,250 Anne Hathaway with her hand like becoming a blur, right. 736 00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:58,730 And like Christopher Nolan, What I love about Christopher Nolan, 737 00:37:58,730 --> 00:38:01,170 he thinks his audience, he takes his audiences as smart. 738 00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:03,300 Right. Like he doesn't just tell them 739 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:05,540 something. They might be confused at one 740 00:38:05,540 --> 00:38:07,180 point, but it's gonna be explained later. 741 00:38:07,180 --> 00:38:09,060 Like, you have to have patience with Christopher Nolan. 742 00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:10,620 Like you might be looking at Anne Hathaway. 743 00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:14,100 Like, why is her hand like a black sludge right now? 744 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,260 Like, what the hell is going on? But then, like, you have that 745 00:38:17,260 --> 00:38:20,340 amazing payoff. When you get to 2 and 2 1/2 746 00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:24,540 hours later and McConaughey is the one that is moving her hand 747 00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:27,100 when he's in a different time dimension, like it's those type 748 00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,780 of moments where you're like God damn that was amazing. 749 00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:31,700 And that when the book scenes and everything, but the way that 750 00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:36,340 he captures the black holes in this movie, whether on the 751 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:40,060 periphery or going inside the black hole, I don't know how the 752 00:38:40,060 --> 00:38:42,430 hell. He designed what the black hole 753 00:38:42,430 --> 00:38:45,510 was going to look like. He must have talked to so many 754 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:47,710 different astrophysicists in preparation for this. 755 00:38:47,710 --> 00:38:49,710 It should have done a little more backward research on that. 756 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:54,150 But to me, I have never seen a scifi space movie attempt to 757 00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:57,150 attack a black hole. Usually we are amazed by just, 758 00:38:57,150 --> 00:38:59,950 oh, we're inside the space shuttle, They're floating. 759 00:38:59,950 --> 00:39:03,590 Oh my God, that looks so cool. Oh, they went outside the space 760 00:39:03,590 --> 00:39:05,350 shuttle. Oh, they reenacted someone 761 00:39:05,350 --> 00:39:08,110 stepping on the moon. And then Chris Nolan says I'm 762 00:39:08,110 --> 00:39:10,950 going to make a like a scifi space epic. 763 00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:14,710 And we're going into black holes, like, we are just going 764 00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:16,830 to do something that has never been seen on the big screen. 765 00:39:17,110 --> 00:39:20,990 And he really amazed audiences. And that's what we're talking 766 00:39:20,990 --> 00:39:22,550 about. He'll dip into different genres, 767 00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:25,110 but he's going to give you something that is going to 768 00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:27,510 absolutely blow your mind, right? 769 00:39:27,790 --> 00:39:29,550 And you're going to want to like, tell your friends about 770 00:39:29,550 --> 00:39:31,790 it. Did you have that, like, similar 771 00:39:31,790 --> 00:39:34,830 type of spectacle feeling when you're seeing this film compared 772 00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:38,430 to others like scifi epics? Yeah, because, like, you know, 773 00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:41,020 this movies. Has its slow moments, but 774 00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:43,900 usually, like when you see like, like Gravity, the Sandra Bullock 775 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:47,460 movie, that movie's slow. And The space, when they do the 776 00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:50,060 shots of space. Yes, it's incredible, whatever. 777 00:39:50,260 --> 00:39:52,820 But like, it's not like and like breathtaking. 778 00:39:53,060 --> 00:39:56,020 But it's not like, holy crap, I'm on the edge of my seat here. 779 00:39:56,020 --> 00:39:59,700 It's like docking station, you know, the Zimmer scores going, 780 00:39:59,820 --> 00:40:02,220 but then like, it stops. Like it like sometimes like 781 00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:05,380 there's like they they they cut the sound when they're in space. 782 00:40:05,540 --> 00:40:08,060 Do you really feel the effect of the visuals? 783 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,920 You know like they you really get that intensity from either 784 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,720 the score but without the score even just because it's so 785 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:18,520 stunning and the black hole is a great example or the bookshelf 5 786 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,120 fifth dimensional humans created for Cooper or whatever. 787 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,400 Like that's what you feel that so much more in this movie 788 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,080 versus other scifi movies like a gravity that's just like stars, 789 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:29,960 you know. Yeah. 790 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,040 It's just they're just they're floating and they're moving in 791 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,120 cool fashions. But like, I felt like I was 792 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,440 being hypnotized when I looked at that black hole. 793 00:40:38,050 --> 00:40:42,650 Every single time I saw it and it looked so like scary and 794 00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:46,970 intimidating and like you see like how small McConaughey feels 795 00:40:47,130 --> 00:40:50,930 when he enters it and that a man who's appeared so fearless and 796 00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:53,650 all knowing throughout the film, like he doesn't make a wrong 797 00:40:53,650 --> 00:40:56,050 turn when he becomes so unsure of himself. 798 00:40:56,050 --> 00:40:58,610 I think it goes into the performance as well from 799 00:40:58,610 --> 00:41:00,250 McConaughey. It's really special stuff. 800 00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:03,090 We talked about the score a little bit. 801 00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:05,930 We'll go into more like visuals in a SEC because obviously it's 802 00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:08,210 going to be a. Moments that we return to when 803 00:41:08,210 --> 00:41:10,530 we talk about Interstellar. But Hans Zimmer? 804 00:41:11,490 --> 00:41:13,970 Wow, this score nominated for an Oscar. 805 00:41:14,450 --> 00:41:19,410 We know Hans Zimmer doesn't get an Oscar until Dune, which he 806 00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:22,450 won for last year. A much deserved Oscar way too 807 00:41:22,450 --> 00:41:24,250 long. But we did get a score. 808 00:41:24,650 --> 00:41:25,610 He scooted. An Oscar. 809 00:41:25,810 --> 00:41:29,970 An Oscar win. You had me thinking, personally, 810 00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:35,930 this is my favorite Chris Hans Zimmer score ever. 811 00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:40,750 It's just something about it. It feels like you are on the 812 00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:44,990 precipice, precipice of something spectacular, Like it 813 00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:49,390 feels like it's a sense of wonderment that goes with it, 814 00:41:49,590 --> 00:41:53,590 but also tension and stakes that go with the score. 815 00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:57,390 And it's something that I will listen to whether I'm getting. 816 00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:01,550 Piped up to go to the gym or something I'm studying for like 817 00:42:01,550 --> 00:42:04,990 a test for or trying to get something done that I know needs 818 00:42:04,990 --> 00:42:06,150 to get done. It can be. 819 00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:09,710 It's like a really versatile one in my eyes and also amazing like 820 00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:12,790 on TikTok and short form video. I think it works every single 821 00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:16,870 time, but do you have this as one of the best Hans ever? 822 00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:21,110 Scores of all time. It's my #2, maybe one, it's my 823 00:42:21,110 --> 00:42:21,950 one. Yeah, I'm gonna. 824 00:42:22,030 --> 00:42:25,870 See the The Dark Knight that just hits every time, you know. 825 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,240 And the ending to The Dark Knight and when the score hits 826 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:30,760 one last time. I just think of that all the 827 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,680 time. But this honestly should be 828 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,640 number. 1. Because it encapsulates this 829 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,640 movie so perfectly and it's everything I've said, but it's 830 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,440 also like just what's going on, you know, like the emotional 831 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,960 weight between the characters and then the score hits like, 832 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,060 oh, he did it, Zimmer did it to. Did it to us again or like just 833 00:42:49,060 --> 00:42:51,540 when it's space, it captures space so well. 834 00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:54,500 The score, it sounds so stupid to say, but it's like, oh, 835 00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:58,580 that's a that would be good for a space adventure movie, you 836 00:42:58,580 --> 00:43:00,780 know, boom. The score hits like it's it 837 00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:03,980 captures so many different elements of the characters of 838 00:43:03,980 --> 00:43:06,100 this story, the different plot lines going on. 839 00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:09,380 It just hits them those beats so perfectly. 840 00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:12,100 And again, it's like, it's just an epic score. 841 00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:14,980 It's it's at an epic level because this movie is. 842 00:43:15,550 --> 00:43:17,630 An epic in length, but also in scale. 843 00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:20,470 Right. It also like when the first time 844 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:23,910 it really hits and I notice it, it's where they're actually on 845 00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:27,830 Earth and they have the drone that goes flying through the air 846 00:43:27,830 --> 00:43:31,150 and all of a sudden Cooper cuts through with his kids the 847 00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:33,710 cornfields. And then it's the sense of 848 00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:37,710 wonder that it provides. And like to me, it's something 849 00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:39,030 about it. It goes well with like the 850 00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:41,470 Cooper character where it's this guy. 851 00:43:42,070 --> 00:43:45,270 In a world that has abandoned science, he still believes in 852 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:47,230 it, right? And he doesn't believe in like 853 00:43:47,230 --> 00:43:49,270 they talk about, like ghosts or magic. 854 00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:53,870 He believes in like science and proving and having hypothesis 855 00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:55,350 and trying to prove those hypothesis. 856 00:43:55,590 --> 00:43:58,670 And it seems like you're on the press bit like the score just 857 00:43:58,670 --> 00:44:01,710 gives you a sense of you're trying to achieve something, 858 00:44:01,710 --> 00:44:03,510 right? There's something on the other 859 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:05,550 side. And like when it's that first 860 00:44:05,550 --> 00:44:07,590 time, you know you're in for a ride. 861 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,480 You know, courtesy of Hans Zimmer. 862 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,280 But I was curious, Ricky, if we can just go on a quick tangent 863 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,960 like you mentioned The Dark Knight as one of your your 864 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,920 favorite scores. I think maybe we should create a 865 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,520 Mount Rushmore of Hans Zimmer scores. 866 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,560 And if you want to put The Dark Knight on there potentially, I 867 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,880 think we can keep in the discussion. 868 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,120 But I have Interstellar as a lock on the Mount Rushmore. 869 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,440 What would be in your one nomination if you could, to put 870 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,000 on the Mount Rushmore aside from those two films? 871 00:44:37,070 --> 00:44:40,070 Probably Inception. It would probably have to be 872 00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:42,190 Inception. That one's very similar to 873 00:44:42,190 --> 00:44:46,510 Interstellar or just captures that like dream that that dream 874 00:44:46,510 --> 00:44:50,030 state, but also Chaos. It's so good. 875 00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:55,070 And so when you mentioned the surveillance drone scene and the 876 00:44:55,070 --> 00:44:57,030 score hits there when they're going through the cornfield 877 00:44:57,550 --> 00:45:02,030 fantastic in the Inception, it's like when like that they're in 878 00:45:02,030 --> 00:45:05,150 France and then they realize they're in a they're in a dream. 879 00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:08,100 Elliot Page in a dream and the score hits when everything's 880 00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:10,860 exploding there. It's just like, holy crap, the 881 00:45:10,860 --> 00:45:13,340 score was amazing. Or it's like JGL fighting in the 882 00:45:13,340 --> 00:45:16,780 hallway, then it's like done, done, it's. 883 00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:19,500 Like at the end when Killian Murphy's like make trying to 884 00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:23,580 make a decision at the end, yeah, that's like and it felt 885 00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:25,740 like that score was going on for like 45 minutes. 886 00:45:25,780 --> 00:45:28,260 It felt like the weight of the world was on these characters. 887 00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:31,020 Yes, like he provides the stakes just by the sound that he 888 00:45:31,020 --> 00:45:32,300 provides. That's crazy. 889 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,000 That's good. I think Inception should be up 890 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,560 there there. But what's weird about is like 891 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,000 doing it for me is not on the Mount Rushmore, you know, it's 892 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,600 it's just so different and it's so like warrior battle like type 893 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,560 of sounds he's using totally different sounds. 894 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,760 I don't think anyone has ever put together right or mixed 895 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,000 together for a film, but it's somehow fits perfectly, but it's 896 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,880 not something I find myself returning to. 897 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,600 I need let it sit with me for a bit. 898 00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:02,960 In terms of most iconic like dude, Pirates of the Caribbean, 899 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,190 bro. Yeah. 900 00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:09,550 That's got to be one of the most recognizable scores in movie 901 00:46:09,550 --> 00:46:13,270 history. And talk about you see, you hear 902 00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:16,230 that use picture like a drunk Jack Sparrow running with his 903 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:18,430 hands above his head. You know that's what you think 904 00:46:18,430 --> 00:46:20,430 of immediately. Or him like grabbing on the 905 00:46:20,430 --> 00:46:24,630 sails like on the Black Pearl and saying let's ride and then 906 00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:28,550 Lion King, like Lion King's. Also to me, I think of like 907 00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:31,510 Pride Rock and I think of Simba at the end. 908 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,160 Like rising in slow motion, right? 909 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,120 It's just to me it's he just knows how to capture big moments 910 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,080 better than any. Like composer of all time. 911 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,080 Like John Williams has amazing themes that will can like be 912 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,000 prevalent throughout a movie, but Hans Zimmer can capture an 913 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,560 exact moment and elevate it better than any other composer 914 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,760 ever seen. Yeah, I I think John Williams, 915 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,720 like, understands like the movie itself and like what this movie 916 00:46:57,720 --> 00:46:59,980 needs. Like, just the generic, like 917 00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:02,420 basic. This is Indiana Jones, right? 918 00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:06,780 This is Star Wars Zimmer's like, now let me just breakdown every 919 00:47:06,780 --> 00:47:10,700 individual scene and just alter the score so you feel. 920 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,280 That yeah, Murph thinks that her father left her to die or 921 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,600 they're trying to get the surveillance drone. 922 00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:19,640 But this is the first throwing scene in the movie. 923 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,120 We got to get your heart race pumping as we're giving you a 924 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,480 lot of expositions, dystopian society. 925 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,560 Like you go more in the weeds than like a John Williams, I 926 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,160 would say. So I I love that. 927 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,360 Take that. And it's the correct take. 928 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,600 I love that. Yeah, and then? 929 00:47:34,310 --> 00:47:36,470 Hans was just a goat man, like like gladiator. 930 00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:37,870 We didn't even bring up which is 1. 931 00:47:37,870 --> 00:47:39,950 Of the I was, I was going to bring up a couple others. 932 00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:44,510 Gladiator Man of Steel I love. Man of Steel is fantastic. 933 00:47:44,510 --> 00:47:47,270 Sherlock Holmes I think has a fantastic score as well. 934 00:47:48,070 --> 00:47:51,710 But my personal Mount Rushmore I'll say is I'll go 935 00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:57,910 Interstellar, I'll go Pirates of the Caribbean Lion King I. 936 00:48:01,790 --> 00:48:03,070 Thought you were going to say Dunkirk? 937 00:48:04,140 --> 00:48:07,260 Dunkirk's up there, too, and that's a huge part of the movie, 938 00:48:07,260 --> 00:48:08,740 a huge technical movie. And it's. 939 00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:15,260 I like I'll get to Dunkirk in a second, but The Dark Knight 940 00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:19,620 means so much to me. Yeah, so Dunkirk there. 941 00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:21,700 I like you so I can talk about Dunkirk a little bit. 942 00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:24,860 Dunkirk so different, though, than other like Nolan movies. 943 00:48:25,020 --> 00:48:27,980 I understand why people don't like it as much because like 944 00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:31,660 McConaughey is a strong lead to hold down the movie, right. 945 00:48:31,860 --> 00:48:35,390 And then. DiCaprio is a strong lead to 946 00:48:35,390 --> 00:48:38,030 hold down Inception, right? Batman is strong enough 947 00:48:38,030 --> 00:48:40,470 character to hold down like The Dark Knight trilogy. 948 00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:43,270 It's Dunkirk. It's more about like the event 949 00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:46,190 itself, more so than the actual performances from the 950 00:48:46,190 --> 00:48:48,310 characters, right? It feels like more like a 951 00:48:48,310 --> 00:48:52,230 tribute than like a fantastic like insertion into the 952 00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:53,510 filmography of Christopher Nolan. 953 00:48:53,710 --> 00:48:56,470 It feels like more like this is the movie that Dunkirk deserves 954 00:48:56,470 --> 00:49:00,030 and what it means to maybe right a Christopher Nolan who is from 955 00:49:00,030 --> 00:49:02,520 England if I'm not mistaken. Right. 956 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,200 So it's like something that means a lot to him and I think 957 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,920 he wanted to do justice, right and he did it in the best way by 958 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,720 taking his technical abilities and what he does with IMAX and 959 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:15,800 what he do is sound and put it towards right. 960 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,760 Some kick ass like that makes England look amazing, right with 961 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,720 those dog fighting see those dog fight sequences right like in 962 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:27,440 the air or it's like the the civilians of England coming over 963 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,600 to like save these soldiers. It just feels like more like a 964 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,620 full like a. A tribute then, like, as I said 965 00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:37,500 before, like the huge spectacle that like, we usually get or 966 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:39,340 typically. Yeah, it's almost more like a 967 00:49:39,340 --> 00:49:42,140 documentary almost. But like, you know, showing the 968 00:49:42,140 --> 00:49:45,020 scenes inside the documentary, like, oh, like if they're doing 969 00:49:45,020 --> 00:49:47,940 a World War 2 Dunkirk documentary, they can't, they 970 00:49:47,940 --> 00:49:49,860 don't have they knock me footage, but they're trying to 971 00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:52,020 explain something that happens. They use like fake people. 972 00:49:52,180 --> 00:49:53,540 Like it's like kind of doing that. 973 00:49:53,660 --> 00:49:56,180 Like it's. About like the team, not one 974 00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:57,660 person, right? That's why it's like. 975 00:49:58,260 --> 00:50:01,700 Like it's about the allies. It's not just about like one 976 00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:04,860 person being the hero, like it's about like the full effort that 977 00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:06,740 went into it. So you can't just have like one 978 00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:09,500 guy leading the movie. That's why Tom Hardy's in a 979 00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:11,380 mask. Killian Murphy is just like 980 00:50:11,380 --> 00:50:14,460 abandoned soldier, like there is not like Fion Whitehead's a 981 00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:18,140 relatively unknown actor because like the relatively unknown 982 00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:21,060 people. Or just like like like everyday 983 00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:24,300 common folk that are just like being thrust into this 984 00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:27,140 impossible situation. You know, so I think it made 985 00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:29,060 sense for the casting. But I understand why it's not 986 00:50:29,060 --> 00:50:32,340 like one of those movies people like return to in the 987 00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:35,300 filmography. Yeah, that's why, for those 988 00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:37,180 reasons. That's why it's lower on my no 989 00:50:37,180 --> 00:50:38,860 one rankings, my personal rankings. 990 00:50:38,860 --> 00:50:40,820 But again, technically, it's stunning. 991 00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:43,100 It's it's amazing. That's why those Tarantino 992 00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,420 comments about it, like, oh, like that makes sense. 993 00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:48,660 But for me, it's just like you don't have someone that holds 994 00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:52,260 down the movie or that you can cling on to, you know, like you 995 00:50:52,260 --> 00:50:54,780 can cling on to Mack McConaughey or if you don't, if you don't 996 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:57,070 feel as. In touch with that character, 997 00:50:57,070 --> 00:51:00,310 you can go to Anne Hathaway. You know, I I think both of them 998 00:51:00,310 --> 00:51:03,070 just give powerhouse performances and Dunkirk, we 999 00:51:03,070 --> 00:51:06,190 don't have that, you know? And then knowing movies, yes, 1000 00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:09,430 it's about the visuals most of the time and the story itself. 1001 00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:13,910 And in Dunkirk those do play. But you need people to execute 1002 00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:17,430 in the movie, you know, with the performances to help you connect 1003 00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:20,950 to the audience and elevate, eventually elevate the movie. 1004 00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:22,790 I just don't think Dunkirk has that. 1005 00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:27,400 I agree. OK, performances you brought up 1006 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,960 like this does have strong performances. 1007 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,280 We talked about McConaughey and how great he is and like this 1008 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,280 era that he's going through and why he was the great anchor for 1009 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,240 this film. You know who I thought was 1010 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,880 really awesome in this movie was Murph as a child, played by 1011 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,360 Mackenzie Foy. I thought, this is some of the 1012 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,880 best child acting I've seen. I don't like, honestly maybe 1013 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,730 ever like seeing the. Connection that her and 1014 00:51:53,730 --> 00:51:56,770 McConaughey had, it makes it all the more heartbreaking when they 1015 00:51:56,770 --> 00:51:58,850 separate from one another, right? 1016 00:51:59,090 --> 00:52:03,250 And she is such a rootable character from the gecko because 1017 00:52:03,250 --> 00:52:05,450 she is someone that believes in science. 1018 00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:09,930 And Speaking of hateable characters, the teacher in this 1019 00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:13,170 movie has never been a more punchable like character where 1020 00:52:13,170 --> 00:52:16,970 she's saying when she said like the moon landings were were were 1021 00:52:17,210 --> 00:52:18,630 fabricated. Right. 1022 00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:21,190 And then she's teaching that to the kids because they don't want 1023 00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:23,630 to fund NASA anymore. They moved on. 1024 00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:26,590 And she, she truly believes that the moon landings were 1025 00:52:26,590 --> 00:52:28,910 fabricated. It's like those type of people. 1026 00:52:28,990 --> 00:52:31,350 This is when, like, the theory started to come up again. 1027 00:52:31,350 --> 00:52:34,990 This is like Twitter starts to make a turn and then it becomes 1028 00:52:34,990 --> 00:52:38,070 people having like the most outlandish takes on the moon 1029 00:52:38,070 --> 00:52:41,670 landing and space exploration. So I technically blame 1030 00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:44,030 Christopher Nolan for Kyrie Irving's comment. 1031 00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:46,030 But the kid was awesome. That was the point. 1032 00:52:46,030 --> 00:52:48,030 Like the kid, the kid was the kid was awesome. 1033 00:52:48,030 --> 00:52:50,590 I I liked her and I thought it was a great through line to 1034 00:52:50,590 --> 00:52:53,150 Jessica Chastain. I truly believe that's like if 1035 00:52:53,150 --> 00:52:55,230 Murph grew up, she became Jessica Chastain. 1036 00:52:55,550 --> 00:52:56,670 Like I thought it was a great through line. 1037 00:52:56,670 --> 00:53:00,430 And the same thing goes for like Shalame into Casey Affleck's 1038 00:53:00,430 --> 00:53:02,190 character. I just thought it was perfectly 1039 00:53:02,190 --> 00:53:04,270 acted from where one character the next. 1040 00:53:04,270 --> 00:53:05,750 I think it's an underrated aspect of the movie. 1041 00:53:06,190 --> 00:53:08,990 Yeah, the castings were perfect. You know, like, it's really hard 1042 00:53:08,990 --> 00:53:10,990 to cast young actors. We talked about on the iPod a 1043 00:53:10,990 --> 00:53:12,870 lot. Shalame was fine, you know, 1044 00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:15,670 Angsty teen. And then going into puberty, but 1045 00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:17,710 I'm fine. But the girl was really to stand 1046 00:53:17,710 --> 00:53:19,070 up because she had a lot more to do. 1047 00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:24,670 And she did incredibly well, persuading us like, hey, there's 1048 00:53:24,670 --> 00:53:27,710 a huge, real connection here with her father. 1049 00:53:28,190 --> 00:53:31,390 So they lost their mother, you know, and now they just relate 1050 00:53:31,390 --> 00:53:33,670 to each other in this dystopian society where they both are 1051 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:36,990 outcast and they find the similarities between each other, 1052 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:39,870 obviously, versus like Timothy Shaw may just like, you know. 1053 00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:44,580 Just another farmer, you know? So like that is just like a huge 1054 00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:46,580 part of this movie. The parents teacher conference. 1055 00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:48,180 I'm glad you brought it up. I was going to bring it up. 1056 00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:52,980 Obviously it can't be my favorite scene because doesn't 1057 00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:56,260 have like the visuals or the big, you know, importance. 1058 00:53:57,060 --> 00:54:01,420 But it is my favorite scene. Like kind of I love rewalking. 1059 00:54:01,820 --> 00:54:05,420 Human like this dude is, despite being a genius, right? 1060 00:54:05,420 --> 00:54:07,940 Like the McConaughey character and how likeable he is from the 1061 00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:10,140 get go and what a great daddy is. 1062 00:54:10,770 --> 00:54:13,850 I just love watching that scene and then like her trying to the 1063 00:54:13,850 --> 00:54:17,010 teacher, trying to persuade him like that the Apollo missions 1064 00:54:17,010 --> 00:54:20,490 were fabricated and then the county's like, oh, what's your 1065 00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:23,930 waistline, 3233? And like you're going to judge 1066 00:54:23,930 --> 00:54:26,370 my kid off of 1 number, but I can't judge your own ass. 1067 00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:29,210 Like, it's just like it was a perfect. 1068 00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:34,510 Like some summation of Mcconaughey's performance a 1069 00:54:34,510 --> 00:54:37,390 little bit because had a little emotion at the end with the MRI 1070 00:54:37,630 --> 00:54:40,230 and saying how important it is to have those stupid machines. 1071 00:54:40,350 --> 00:54:43,950 But also has the clever, the wit, the quick wit of the 1072 00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:46,390 McConaughey that we know from like a Wolf of Wall Street and 1073 00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:47,950 that charisma. And like when he walks in the 1074 00:54:47,950 --> 00:54:50,150 room and everything, like, it's fantastic. 1075 00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:53,870 So I don't know, like that is just one of my favorite scene in 1076 00:54:53,870 --> 00:54:56,990 this movie and I love rewatching that, like if you go for rewatch 1077 00:54:56,990 --> 00:54:59,100 ability scenes. Like that's up there for me. 1078 00:54:59,380 --> 00:55:03,340 It just felt like that moment you could have imagined, like a 1079 00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:05,940 moment where Matthew McConaughey wrote it in his memoir, You 1080 00:55:05,980 --> 00:55:08,780 know, like the way he responded in the lines that he had. 1081 00:55:09,060 --> 00:55:12,260 But then, like, when he goes back to the truck and he said 1082 00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:15,020 she merv says what happened? And he's like, I got you 1083 00:55:15,020 --> 00:55:16,900 suspended. And she's like, what's it like? 1084 00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:19,820 It just it's a special type of relationship that you saw. 1085 00:55:20,140 --> 00:55:24,660 And I think one of the best acted moments of this movie, and 1086 00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:27,700 it got me emotional. I was like shockingly like. 1087 00:55:28,070 --> 00:55:30,350 On the verge of, like, shedding a tear. 1088 00:55:30,670 --> 00:55:34,750 It's the goodbye between Murph and McConaughey. 1089 00:55:35,630 --> 00:55:38,590 Like with McConaughey. Like you automatically think of 1090 00:55:38,590 --> 00:55:41,150 the heartbreaking moments when he's on the shuttle looking at 1091 00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:44,950 the videos from Shalame as it as like his son saying he finished 1092 00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:47,790 second in his class, but then he has to let him go eventually. 1093 00:55:48,110 --> 00:55:51,510 And then you think of like him and behind the bookshelf, you 1094 00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:54,390 know, in the time dimension saying, Murph, don't let me go, 1095 00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:55,710 Don't let me go. Like, really? 1096 00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,440 Like really heartfelt and a little over the top at points, 1097 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,800 but still amazing. It's that moment, I think, that 1098 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,320 was established in the beginning, where he is leaving 1099 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,560 and driving away through the dusk in the court, like through 1100 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,800 the cornfields, and he is like holding back tears, right? 1101 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,160 His eyes are watering to an extent, where it's like it's the 1102 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,480 it's it feels like it is like at the brim of a cup of water and 1103 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,880 if you tap it once it's just going to come flooding out. 1104 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,840 It's like the most impressive emotional acting. 1105 00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:27,480 It's up there with the most impressive ever seen. 1106 00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:29,800 You know it just it with him driving the truck with the one 1107 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,720 hand you make you on it. You kind of think of like the 1108 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:36,600 McConaughey, like Lincoln commercials, right? 1109 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,080 But imagine he's just on the verge of tears the entire time 1110 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,240 and like, just waiting to erupt it. 1111 00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:43,920 It's such a heartbreaking moment because it's the last time he 1112 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,560 sees his kid until his kids 98 years old. 1113 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,680 The the Lincoln commercials is like that's just Matthew County 1114 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,440 driving to Lincoln. But here it's like this is 1115 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,480 American County, but acting. You know, the one hand on the 1116 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,520 wheel, you know, that's, that's what I mean. 1117 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,320 Right. And yeah, the one I had that 1118 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,000 written down in my notes too, just like when he lifts up the 1119 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,320 blanket to see, you know, maybe she's there. 1120 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,080 That's that's great character. Details though. 1121 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,880 Yeah, but like that's like, but that's what we know no one for. 1122 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,200 That's why no one's like our guy like my guy. 1123 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,960 Like you know, these little things that they say or do. 1124 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,040 They always come back and like not in a like some in a subtle. 1125 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,920 So in an obvious way but you know like the obvious ones are 1126 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,440 like the big hitters, the big the plot beats. 1127 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,560 But like the littlest ones passwords, like no one is so 1128 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,200 careful and and he is specific and everything he does. 1129 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,720 Everything's meant for a reason. The time on the clock or a watch 1130 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,720 everything. There's a reason behind 1131 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,840 everything he writes and is on the screen. 1132 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,960 And it's done that emotional aspect. 1133 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,240 It does circles around Inception in my eyes. 1134 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,800 Like to me, that is where Inception falls. 1135 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,800 Like, I have no emotional stakes when I watch Inception. 1136 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,280 Like I don't feel anything for Dom Cobb's wife. 1137 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,560 I don't like think anything any like like it's great that he 1138 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,680 reunites with his kids at the end of the film, but it's 1139 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,440 nowhere near the satisfaction of seeing Mcconaugh, he returned to 1140 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,160 his daughter in Interstellar like that. 1141 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,840 Get you going that that's where it's like this three hour 1142 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,360 runtime in this jargon that we had to sit through you want you 1143 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,640 you you had that moment you had that happy ending despite like 1144 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,080 the repercussions that came as a result like that move this has 1145 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,360 that as like a Nolan movie. It's not all doom and gloom. 1146 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,400 It does end in a way where the audiences can go home happy and 1147 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,400 satisfied. That's why I think it has that 1148 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,320 over inceptions just emotionality just hits in a 1149 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,880 different way and it gets underrated at this point 1150 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,380 Interstellar. Yeah, for sure. 1151 00:58:47,380 --> 00:58:49,940 This movie is like now underrated. 1152 00:58:50,420 --> 00:58:53,340 But again, just if you rewatch, it just gets better every time 1153 00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:56,700 you watch it, even though it it's like known for the twist, 1154 00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,260 right? Which it just makes it even 1155 00:58:59,260 --> 00:59:01,900 better. Did you feel like you got caught 1156 00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:04,940 up in the jargon a little bit, You know, did you feel like that 1157 00:59:04,940 --> 00:59:08,300 held back your experience at all when they talk about when you, 1158 00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:11,380 when he first goes to NASA talking about all these Lazarus 1159 00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:13,500 missions and these astronauts and this? 1160 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:17,270 Gravitational theory and when we go talk about black holes with 1161 00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:20,310 Rami and then we talk about time dimensions, when he's stuck in 1162 00:59:20,310 --> 00:59:23,310 the different time dimensions inside the black hole, do you 1163 00:59:23,310 --> 00:59:25,310 think it held back your viewing experience at? 1164 00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:29,310 All in some aspects, yes. Like in the first act, I thought 1165 00:59:29,310 --> 00:59:32,750 it was fine for the most part. The one thing in the first act, 1166 00:59:32,750 --> 00:59:34,790 like before they jump into space. 1167 00:59:34,910 --> 00:59:37,990 So the 1st 45 minutes in the movie, the one thing I kept 1168 00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:40,110 coming back and he's like, what's wrong with gravity? 1169 00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:43,950 Things are falling. We're all still on the ground. 1170 00:59:44,550 --> 00:59:46,590 What is wrong with Earth's gravity right now? 1171 00:59:47,110 --> 00:59:50,830 And that's what I couldn't get. And they must have said gravity 1172 00:59:50,830 --> 00:59:55,270 1000 freaking times and like in the in the room and it's like, 1173 00:59:55,350 --> 00:59:56,990 oh, it's not a ghost, it's gravity. 1174 00:59:56,990 --> 00:59:59,270 I'm like. Everywhere is gravity, he goes 1175 00:59:59,270 --> 01:00:01,430 In the time dimension he goes like gravity. 1176 01:00:01,430 --> 01:00:03,270 I'm like, what do you mean what does it mean? 1177 01:00:03,870 --> 01:00:06,830 Like, I don't get that. Ass yet it's still to this day. 1178 01:00:07,110 --> 01:00:08,750 Yeah, to this day I don't get it. 1179 01:00:10,220 --> 01:00:13,660 There's other things throughout like with Rami, the black hole, 1180 01:00:14,020 --> 01:00:20,020 5th dimensional beings that like I get, I get Interstellar and I 1181 01:00:20,020 --> 01:00:22,860 get like what? Just for no one wrote. 1182 01:00:23,340 --> 01:00:26,460 But it's just still, it's just like, you know it's like those 1183 01:00:26,540 --> 01:00:31,140 little X that I just don't like, you know, like come on, like 1184 01:00:31,140 --> 01:00:34,900 future beings like what do we It just doesn't have a good taste 1185 01:00:34,900 --> 01:00:37,180 in your whole. Movie at the end where it's 1186 01:00:37,220 --> 01:00:39,100 like, wow, we have a lot on our plate already. 1187 01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:41,100 Right. And like it's a time travel 1188 01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,860 movie, but like the reason why it's so good is that it's so big 1189 01:00:43,860 --> 01:00:46,460 in scale but grounded with its story in the connection with 1190 01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:51,100 either Murph and her father is Coop or in Hathaway's character 1191 01:00:51,620 --> 01:00:54,700 looking for planet Edmonds. You know, like there's always 1192 01:00:54,700 --> 01:00:58,060 some sort of emotional weight here in connection, but yet we 1193 01:00:58,060 --> 01:00:59,900 have a time travel 5th dimensional humans. 1194 01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:03,420 That's why I'm glad it wasn't aliens though, because they 1195 01:01:03,420 --> 01:01:05,580 always felt like aliens or other being set up. 1196 01:01:06,010 --> 01:01:08,570 The black hole Gargantua, right? Is that that's the right name of 1197 01:01:08,570 --> 01:01:09,130 it. Gargantua. 1198 01:01:09,290 --> 01:01:11,170 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like they think aliens or 1199 01:01:11,170 --> 01:01:14,890 other being set it up and to have it being like other humans 1200 01:01:14,890 --> 01:01:17,410 doing so. I like that more. 1201 01:01:17,490 --> 01:01:20,490 You know, to be it's like there's enough with wormholes, 1202 01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:25,050 black holes, time jumps that like I can't deal with aliens. 1203 01:01:25,130 --> 01:01:26,850 That's just too much on my plate right now. 1204 01:01:26,850 --> 01:01:31,170 Like I I can't deal with my my brain will explode right to for 1205 01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:34,930 be like a future McConaughey or a future like astronaut. 1206 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,080 I believe that a little bit more because of the time jump that's 1207 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,280 established earlier, right? It's it's kind of like something 1208 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,720 you just buy into as you're going because of spectacles, 1209 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,880 like you just want to see more, you know? 1210 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,760 And even in that time dimension, you may not fully understand the 1211 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,280 gravity and everything happening. 1212 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,960 It just comes to like the idea of we're talking about Mission 1213 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,640 Impossible movies where it's like the plot. 1214 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,880 Sometimes they'll say things you can pay attention if you want, 1215 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,160 but more about let's look at the stunts happening, I think. 1216 01:02:02,490 --> 01:02:06,010 At times in this movie, Nolan doesn't really care if you 1217 01:02:06,010 --> 01:02:07,810 understand what they're saying, right? 1218 01:02:07,810 --> 01:02:11,410 Doesn't really, doesn't really, doesn't play a vital part of 1219 01:02:11,410 --> 01:02:13,130 your viewing experience. Like, we're going to try and 1220 01:02:13,130 --> 01:02:15,970 make it as accurate as possible. Scientifically, it might break 1221 01:02:15,970 --> 01:02:18,410 your brain for a second, but let's just watch us go through a 1222 01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:21,130 black hole, right? Or let's watch some incredible 1223 01:02:21,130 --> 01:02:24,650 visuals in this time dimension of Matthew McConaughey falling 1224 01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:27,210 endlessly, you know? And that's where. 1225 01:02:27,950 --> 01:02:30,190 That's where it's the Nolan tropes that come in or the 1226 01:02:30,190 --> 01:02:34,030 criticisms where it's like this dialogue that pulls you out or 1227 01:02:34,310 --> 01:02:38,710 at times this was the beginning where some of the dialogue is 1228 01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:42,750 inaudible, you cannot hear. And sometimes you have to either 1229 01:02:42,750 --> 01:02:46,230 turn the volume up or I think it's intentional from Nolan that 1230 01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:48,790 he doesn't want you to hear it because he's trying to tell you 1231 01:02:48,790 --> 01:02:51,390 it's not important. And obviously we see that in 1232 01:02:51,390 --> 01:02:57,680 tenant with like obviously in 20/21/2021, right, 2020. 2020 1233 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,800 OK, yeah, that year. But yeah, when I think Tenet 1234 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,360 kind of like, takes that idea from Interstellar and runs with 1235 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,280 it to an extent where it really inhibits people's experiences, 1236 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,520 it just makes them frustrated from watching the movie. 1237 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,600 This doesn't have that in my eyes. 1238 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,240 I didn't feel frustrated afterwards. 1239 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,640 But it is in a tiny sense like inaccessible to audiences. 1240 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,440 Yeah, not much though, it doesn't. 1241 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,120 I still think at the end of the day, man like. 1242 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,560 I think critics might might just take more weight into or put 1243 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,200 that more into like they're a negative reaction. 1244 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:37,680 Just because like all like literally 60% of the dialogue in 1245 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,120 this movie is trying to explain something, whether it's about 1246 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,720 Earth, why dust is here, why crops are failing. 1247 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,320 Like there's always something beginning explained to us. 1248 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,080 It's like a we're in class almost. 1249 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,320 But at the end of the day audiences like us, we take away 1250 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,280 from the movies like holy crap that was like. 1251 01:03:54,780 --> 01:03:59,140 Insane to watch the twist, the look, the score like the like 1252 01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:01,140 you just take, you just leave the theater and you're like, 1253 01:04:01,140 --> 01:04:04,700 holy crap that was a sick movie. Yeah, you're in awe of it versus 1254 01:04:04,700 --> 01:04:07,100 like critics are like what the hell just happened, even though 1255 01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:11,420 like simplistically you get it. Yeah, no, 100%. 1256 01:04:11,580 --> 01:04:15,060 And like it's not a. It's not a real criticism for me 1257 01:04:15,060 --> 01:04:17,220 because just doesn't take away from my experience. 1258 01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:20,340 Like I I am the jaw-dropping. It doesn't take much to really 1259 01:04:20,340 --> 01:04:23,070 like like. Flip the switch for me like you. 1260 01:04:23,070 --> 01:04:25,910 Like once. Once like you, I saw Gargantua. 1261 01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:27,630 I'm like, okay. This is like one of the best 1262 01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:30,110 things I've ever seen. Like no other space movies 1263 01:04:30,110 --> 01:04:33,630 attempted like black holes in this fashion or to this much 1264 01:04:33,830 --> 01:04:37,990 effort, this extent, and it's just godly when you're looking 1265 01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:40,350 at it. Other things that stuck out 1266 01:04:40,590 --> 01:04:43,590 during your rewatch. Wikiflex that maybe that you 1267 01:04:43,590 --> 01:04:46,470 didn't catch the first time or maybe something that I just want 1268 01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:49,070 to talk about as we wrap up. I'll say. 1269 01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:55,460 This did feel slow at times. I'll say it sometimes did. 1270 01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:00,260 Like when they get the space 42 minutes in the movie 42 minutes, 1271 01:05:00,260 --> 01:05:03,140 they finally get the space okay and like they're showing off 1272 01:05:03,140 --> 01:05:07,500 basically all this, like the space sequences, right? 1273 01:05:08,140 --> 01:05:10,180 I'm fine with it. I'm just saying. 1274 01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:12,410 I understand. You know, we've, if you've 1275 01:05:12,530 --> 01:05:14,130 already seen the movie and you're rewatching, it's like, 1276 01:05:14,130 --> 01:05:15,450 all right, let's just keep going here. 1277 01:05:15,450 --> 01:05:18,010 The three hour movie, like, I kind of want to this could have 1278 01:05:18,010 --> 01:05:20,490 been 2 1/2 hours really. So like, I'll just say it was 1279 01:05:20,490 --> 01:05:23,930 slow at times for sure. But again, it was just trying to 1280 01:05:23,930 --> 01:05:27,650 add weight to the movie, you know, add to that epicness, that 1281 01:05:27,650 --> 01:05:31,610 scale, that huge scale. So, but on this rewatch I did, I 1282 01:05:31,610 --> 01:05:34,050 kind of get a sense of like, yeah, let's pick it up a little 1283 01:05:34,050 --> 01:05:38,130 bit. Yeah, they add slow moments and 1284 01:05:38,130 --> 01:05:40,550 that's also. When it's bogged down, that's 1285 01:05:40,550 --> 01:05:44,110 when, like those slow moments is when you felt like, OK, like I'm 1286 01:05:44,110 --> 01:05:45,990 getting like, bogged down with the jargon a little. 1287 01:05:46,030 --> 01:05:48,750 Bit like, it's not like Gravity where like that whole movie is 1288 01:05:48,750 --> 01:05:51,270 slow for the most part. And it was just a year before, 1289 01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:53,750 which I think hurts this movie because it was such an Oscar 1290 01:05:54,430 --> 01:05:57,430 nominated for 10 Oscars, got cinematography, got Best 1291 01:05:57,430 --> 01:06:01,230 Director if I was a Quran. So like it's like that kind of 1292 01:06:01,230 --> 01:06:02,990 hurts this movie. I think the next year was like, 1293 01:06:02,990 --> 01:06:05,790 oh, we just got a space movie that did incredibly well at the 1294 01:06:05,790 --> 01:06:07,510 box office. Sandra Bullock, George Clooney, 1295 01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:10,160 like. Now we have this, like I think 1296 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,920 that kind of heard this as well, just a sidebar. 1297 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,520 But yeah, like overall, yeah, just slow at times. 1298 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,080 This movie also, it's more about what's happening outside of the 1299 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,520 shuttle or the docking station. It's more about what's happening 1300 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,640 on these different planets and whenever we went to a planet I 1301 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,620 was in. I was in with that first planet 1302 01:06:29,620 --> 01:06:33,340 with the huge tidal wave, right? And the ticking score from Hans 1303 01:06:33,340 --> 01:06:34,780 Zimmer. Like you're running out of time. 1304 01:06:34,780 --> 01:06:36,860 You're running out of time. My favorite scene. 1305 01:06:37,060 --> 01:06:41,540 Genius genius score. And to have the consequences, 1306 01:06:41,540 --> 01:06:45,620 the stakes set early on when they lose W Bentley and then you 1307 01:06:45,620 --> 01:06:48,100 have go back and you see Romney's 30 years older. 1308 01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:50,300 That's like holy crap, the team is gone. 1309 01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:54,420 But what happened? I will say it's kind of wild to 1310 01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:57,940 me that there's four. People on this mission, the 1311 01:06:57,940 --> 01:07:01,140 mission to save the world, the people on Earth, and there's 1312 01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:03,780 only four people there. I'm just thinking like, you 1313 01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:07,020 might want to bring a bigger squad in case, I don't know, two 1314 01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:09,740 people die right in the first two planets that you visit. 1315 01:07:10,420 --> 01:07:12,420 That's a pretty dangerous mission that you're going on. 1316 01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:16,700 How do you only bring 4 people? And I, in terms of storytelling, 1317 01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:19,300 I get it because you want to make it like intimate. 1318 01:07:19,750 --> 01:07:22,070 And you want to focus more on like maybe a McConaughey and 1319 01:07:22,070 --> 01:07:26,390 then like his interactions with an Anne Hathaway or him with his 1320 01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:29,750 daughter on Earth, right. And you might not want to like 1321 01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:31,590 have to develop all these different things because there's 1322 01:07:31,590 --> 01:07:33,910 so much going on. But to me, it's crazy that four 1323 01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:35,710 people are trying to save the world right now. 1324 01:07:37,150 --> 01:07:38,830 I. Again, they sent out a twelve 1325 01:07:39,350 --> 01:07:42,670 person mission before, once at each of the possible planets. 1326 01:07:42,830 --> 01:07:45,270 So there was going to be a person on each of the three 1327 01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:47,830 planets that they were going to visit, all right? 1328 01:07:47,950 --> 01:07:50,200 Supposed to be. Supposed to be. 1329 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:57,240 And as also like I I think for like when you're just going out 1330 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,600 there just this like you're you're not going to like spend 1331 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,520 years at this planet like unintended a little bit. 1332 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,480 Like you're just going to be there and be like, all right 1333 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,280 give me the data and let's go back to earth. 1334 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,720 Like you. You're just there to pick up. 1335 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,200 You're not there to stay. So like, why you need a huge 1336 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,080 squad if you're not expecting to fight anything, you're just 1337 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,840 expecting to meet somebody pick up data and go back. 1338 01:08:17,340 --> 01:08:21,060 Dude, it's it's you gotta you gotta expect the unexpected like 1339 01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:23,500 you like. If you can't access the data 1340 01:08:23,620 --> 01:08:26,260 that the Lazarus missions have, you have to be. 1341 01:08:26,340 --> 01:08:29,060 I have all hands on deck. If you haven't gotten the data, 1342 01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:32,100 that means shit is going wrong, you know, that's where it's 1343 01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:34,460 like, you got to make sure, like, we have backups. 1344 01:08:34,620 --> 01:08:36,180 You know. They don't have to be anything 1345 01:08:36,180 --> 01:08:39,060 in the movie, put them in a different shuttle, whatever. 1346 01:08:39,220 --> 01:08:42,810 But to have a two men? Two person mission by the end 1347 01:08:42,930 --> 01:08:44,850 where they have to separate and go. 1348 01:08:44,850 --> 01:08:48,770 One man going into the black hole that is, that is, that is 1349 01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:50,930 you. You really need the right guy. 1350 01:08:51,250 --> 01:08:53,850 And luckily enough we were stuck with Matthew McConaughey. 1351 01:08:53,850 --> 01:08:56,290 But you needed the right guy to be successful. 1352 01:08:56,290 --> 01:08:59,090 That is wild to me that they chose to do that, especially 1353 01:08:59,090 --> 01:09:01,050 when you're trying to make it as accurate as possible. 1354 01:09:01,210 --> 01:09:03,890 Yeah, let's take four people to go into like into the black 1355 01:09:03,890 --> 01:09:04,930 hole. That's enough. 1356 01:09:07,010 --> 01:09:09,520 What else? Another another little thing 1357 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:10,840 here. So you mentioned this takes 1358 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:16,160 place in 2067, Okay. Where in the United States are 1359 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,800 they? It says New York Yankees, dude, 1360 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,080 that was. The Yankees, right? 1361 01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:25,040 And it says home of the New York Yankees. 1362 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,000 But like they clearly like there's mountain terrain. 1363 01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:32,600 You know NASA's and driving distance so are they in Texas. 1364 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,560 But then there's again it looks very. 1365 01:09:35,140 --> 01:09:37,300 I don't know, like it looks like it's you're in the Rocky 1366 01:09:37,300 --> 01:09:40,939 Mountains or Appalachians or you're in Iowa, like in 1367 01:09:40,939 --> 01:09:43,100 cornfields. Like it really couldn't decide 1368 01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:45,740 where in the US they were. You'd be lying if you didn't 1369 01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:47,300 think it was like Field of Dreams immediately. 1370 01:09:47,819 --> 01:09:50,500 Yeah, but then like, they're they're supposedly in New York, 1371 01:09:50,779 --> 01:09:52,420 but then it's like, oh, it's a town setting. 1372 01:09:52,540 --> 01:09:55,580 But then it's like, oh wait, there's NASA right here. 1373 01:09:55,780 --> 01:09:59,340 And these huge Rocky Mountains, like in terrains, beautiful 1374 01:09:59,340 --> 01:10:02,090 views. It made no sense on a setting 1375 01:10:02,090 --> 01:10:04,650 basis where they were. It was a made made-up spot in 1376 01:10:04,650 --> 01:10:05,650 the US. Yeah. 1377 01:10:05,650 --> 01:10:07,090 Geographically, it makes zero sense. 1378 01:10:07,250 --> 01:10:08,130 I don't know why. Why did? 1379 01:10:08,130 --> 01:10:09,730 He include the Yankees like that. 1380 01:10:09,730 --> 01:10:11,170 To me that was just dumb. Like what? 1381 01:10:11,170 --> 01:10:13,410 You could have made-up a team? Just make up a team, dude. 1382 01:10:13,730 --> 01:10:15,250 Like don't confuse audiences like that. 1383 01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:17,890 And then like have the different stadium and this is this because 1384 01:10:17,890 --> 01:10:21,730 it opens up a can of worms, opens up a wormhole as you might 1385 01:10:21,730 --> 01:10:24,690 say, but it opens up a bunch of questions to be answered like 1386 01:10:24,690 --> 01:10:26,730 that really aren't important whatsoever. 1387 01:10:28,020 --> 01:10:30,340 What a terrible place Earth was at that time. 1388 01:10:30,340 --> 01:10:34,220 Dude, imagine flipping over your like having dust covering 1389 01:10:34,580 --> 01:10:37,900 everything. And like, that's where I also 1390 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:41,860 was thinking Casey Affleck and Timothy Shalame, that character, 1391 01:10:42,540 --> 01:10:46,740 him letting his kids, like, just get cancer, lung cancer, and 1392 01:10:46,740 --> 01:10:50,220 die. It's just to me, it's like, why? 1393 01:10:50,620 --> 01:10:54,020 Like, just because your dad's because your grandpa's buried in 1394 01:10:54,020 --> 01:10:56,660 the back, you got to stay in this house and you already lost 1395 01:10:56,660 --> 01:10:59,460 the kid. And then you need Topher Grace 1396 01:10:59,460 --> 01:11:03,100 setting the place on fire. You know, like to like Italian 1397 01:11:03,380 --> 01:11:06,100 to really drive home the point that you are killing your kids. 1398 01:11:06,340 --> 01:11:08,660 To me, it's like, yeah, you could be a grouch, but not 1399 01:11:08,820 --> 01:11:11,340 killing your kids. Like, what are you talking 1400 01:11:11,340 --> 01:11:12,900 about? And toy forget about him at the 1401 01:11:12,940 --> 01:11:15,180 end like I don't mention. A hole in this. 1402 01:11:15,180 --> 01:11:17,900 Movie and like at the very end when Cooper returns to Cooper 1403 01:11:17,900 --> 01:11:22,120 station and. He doesn't ask about his son. 1404 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,960 He's. Only about I was thinking like, 1405 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,600 I mean, he must have assumed that someone's dead, but like, 1406 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,480 yeah, that never came up in conversation. 1407 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,840 Like maybe just like he's. Only a few years older than 1408 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,440 Murph. Like, it's not crazy. 1409 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,160 Like, yeah, I don't know, it's weird how long? 1410 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,760 It's got to be effed. Yeah, for sure. 1411 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,120 But I just one other thing that was a real bot like this was 1412 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,320 actually a problem for me on the rewatch here. 1413 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,880 Ours and cases, voices like the the actual aircraft. 1414 01:11:49,850 --> 01:11:52,970 They sound so similar and they also sound like Matt Damon at 1415 01:11:52,970 --> 01:11:55,570 the same time. They're all, they're all like it 1416 01:11:55,570 --> 01:11:58,730 was way too they need to make it more robotic or something. 1417 01:11:58,930 --> 01:12:01,570 It was way too confusing. I honestly thought at times it 1418 01:12:01,570 --> 01:12:04,610 goes a cast member. So you but you were also 1419 01:12:04,610 --> 01:12:07,170 confusing. Like that's a huge difference 1420 01:12:07,170 --> 01:12:10,770 between Damon and his motives versus Atars. 1421 01:12:11,010 --> 01:12:15,130 Well, like so, like I was. Just the greatest non like Star 1422 01:12:15,130 --> 01:12:17,140 Wars. Like robot that we've. 1423 01:12:17,140 --> 01:12:20,460 Had dude the long planet scene when it's app like carrying Anne 1424 01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:23,860 Hathaway and just absolutely moving like insane. 1425 01:12:24,180 --> 01:12:26,060 No wonder it was in the marines but. 1426 01:12:26,260 --> 01:12:29,220 It felt like Star Wars a little bit when he has like the comedic 1427 01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:32,260 relief, he's like 90% honesty and then at the end where he's 1428 01:12:32,260 --> 01:12:35,100 like has the basically transmitting like TARS is in 1429 01:12:35,140 --> 01:12:40,660 like his data into a different into a different machine, right 1430 01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:44,460 McConaughey, he's like 65%, he's a make that 60% comedy. 1431 01:12:44,540 --> 01:12:47,660 It's just really awesome. Supporting character, but 1432 01:12:47,820 --> 01:12:48,940 continue. Yeah. 1433 01:12:49,180 --> 01:12:51,860 And you felt like that weight when like at the end when he's 1434 01:12:51,860 --> 01:12:53,540 like, yeah, give me the power source. 1435 01:12:53,540 --> 01:12:55,620 Like I'll fix him. And like basically saying, like, 1436 01:12:55,620 --> 01:12:57,460 he could. He offered him a new one, but he 1437 01:12:57,460 --> 01:12:59,020 goes like, no, I want this one, basically. 1438 01:12:59,340 --> 01:13:02,060 But no, what I was trying to say, like, it sounded like the 1439 01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:07,540 actor Matt Damon was voicing tars like it's for me, it was 1440 01:13:07,540 --> 01:13:11,900 like weird and like, so Josh Stewart, who's in tenant. 1441 01:13:12,660 --> 01:13:15,620 A bad guy in tenant and is in a couple other movies here, The 1442 01:13:15,620 --> 01:13:20,140 Finest Hours and whatnot. He voiced Case the aircraft and 1443 01:13:20,180 --> 01:13:26,060 Bill Irwin voiced TARS. I just, I don't know, I needed 1444 01:13:26,060 --> 01:13:28,980 something more robotic. Like we know, like if if like 1445 01:13:29,140 --> 01:13:32,420 C3PO is talking, we know that C3PO, even though we're not 1446 01:13:32,420 --> 01:13:34,620 looking at him. When TARS was talking and they 1447 01:13:34,620 --> 01:13:38,100 weren't showing TARS, I honestly at times was like, who's talking 1448 01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:40,660 right now? We got to get a better actor 1449 01:13:40,660 --> 01:13:42,940 than Bill Irwin to be voicing TARS. 1450 01:13:42,980 --> 01:13:44,500 Well, he did a good job. I just couldn't. 1451 01:13:44,940 --> 01:13:47,100 Did a good job. But, like, I feel like it'd be 1452 01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:48,500 nice if we got a more recognized. 1453 01:13:48,500 --> 01:13:51,500 Like we have so many frequent collaborators with Chris for 1454 01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:53,100 Nolan. You can tell me Kelly Murphy 1455 01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:54,980 wasn't available just to voice TARS. 1456 01:13:55,540 --> 01:13:57,460 Come on. But the honesty? 1457 01:13:57,460 --> 01:13:58,860 Or like W you should have been West Bentley's. 1458 01:13:58,860 --> 01:14:01,580 Care I I know I didn't focus. I didn't really get that as 1459 01:14:01,580 --> 01:14:02,590 much. As you. 1460 01:14:02,590 --> 01:14:04,350 But I understand what you're saying because they're 1461 01:14:04,350 --> 01:14:07,950 communicating so much, you know, with the transmitters, you know. 1462 01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:10,910 You can't just have them all be human voices like when they're 1463 01:14:10,910 --> 01:14:12,590 not humans. You guys sound a little more 1464 01:14:12,590 --> 01:14:14,950 Robtronic, so I don't. Care like how realistic it would 1465 01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:18,870 be in 2067, like you got to make it like distinguishable for the 1466 01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:21,830 audience. Yeah, OK. 1467 01:14:22,510 --> 01:14:23,910 Yeah. So that's your beef. 1468 01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:26,150 What do you think about all them scores? 1469 01:14:26,190 --> 01:14:29,310 Like, unless you have something else to add, I think we should 1470 01:14:29,310 --> 01:14:31,900 jump to it. What do you give Interstellar on 1471 01:14:31,900 --> 01:14:35,820 your rewatch? This is a tough one because I 1472 01:14:35,820 --> 01:14:38,460 love it so much. Again, like I think we went over 1473 01:14:38,460 --> 01:14:41,580 some of the nitpicks that are the bigger ones related to the 1474 01:14:41,580 --> 01:14:44,660 plot and exposition and stuff. But like I do love this movie 1475 01:14:44,660 --> 01:14:47,460 and I do think the Gravity aspect being the year before 1476 01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:52,860 being an Oscar darling there and I think just the no one ISM of 1477 01:14:52,860 --> 01:14:54,940 it all, just I kind of heard it on a. 1478 01:14:56,060 --> 01:15:00,260 On a macro level versus now, I just feel like it's age so well 1479 01:15:00,500 --> 01:15:04,260 versus like a gravity as an age well I I'll give this a 90. 1480 01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:09,620 Wow, I really like this movie. I originally like if I after the 1481 01:15:09,620 --> 01:15:11,700 first watch probably would have only done like 85. 1482 01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:15,940 But I was really impressed on this rewatch. 1483 01:15:16,140 --> 01:15:20,180 Just the actual performances and everything just encompassed 1484 01:15:20,180 --> 01:15:23,740 together. Wow, I'm going over the 88 like. 1485 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,560 Yeah, this movie just the what really stood out the second time 1486 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,080 is me. Me feeling something after 1487 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,440 watching it, right? It's just me feeling that it was 1488 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:36,840 anchored by the emotionality display, all the science that 1489 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,560 surrounds it, right? It does. 1490 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,520 You kind of get lost in the jargon, but it all comes down to 1491 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,960 it. A lot of it does have to do 1492 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,120 alongside the spectacle, power, math and McConaughey. 1493 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,600 One thing that really stuck out too as we wrap up is that 1494 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,240 Mackenzie Foy who plays Young Murph. 1495 01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:59,590 Hasn't gone on to be that successful of an actor and 1496 01:15:59,830 --> 01:16:01,150 obviously she's still very young. 1497 01:16:01,510 --> 01:16:04,950 But Timothy Shalame, you would have never guessed based on this 1498 01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:08,230 performance that he would have the start to the career that he 1499 01:16:08,230 --> 01:16:12,470 has over these last couple years like he is him combined with 1500 01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:17,270 Casey Affleck are the ultimate buzzkill of character they like. 1501 01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:20,550 They are just like vibe killer, party killer, right. 1502 01:16:21,580 --> 01:16:24,260 I think I would have thought she was going to have this insane 1503 01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:26,460 run afterwards or be like, oh Next up. 1504 01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:30,500 But instead it's this kid, right, who goes on to become the 1505 01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:33,500 next Leonardo DiCaprio and you just didn't see it at the time. 1506 01:16:33,900 --> 01:16:36,340 To me, that just stuck out immensely on the rewatch as 1507 01:16:36,340 --> 01:16:38,420 well. Any other thoughts, Tricky 1508 01:16:38,420 --> 01:16:42,260 folks? Now I just, again, I'm through 1509 01:16:42,260 --> 01:16:45,700 Oppenheimer, the huge cast. So I don't know if we'll get 1510 01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:48,180 like a shocking cameo in Oppenheimer, but. 1511 01:16:49,650 --> 01:16:51,210 No, I'm. I'm really pumped for that. 1512 01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:55,450 I'm seeing it this Thursday. Before Barbie. 1513 01:16:55,570 --> 01:16:57,810 Yes, before Barbie. But yes, I am doing the 1514 01:16:57,810 --> 01:17:01,850 Barbenheimer same day seeing both of them Cannot wait. 1515 01:17:02,570 --> 01:17:04,770 Christopher Nolan, is this the Oscar? 1516 01:17:05,210 --> 01:17:06,850 Is this is what is this the time for him? 1517 01:17:06,850 --> 01:17:08,010 That's going to be the big question. 1518 01:17:08,610 --> 01:17:10,810 Yeah. And I wish I was doing the 1519 01:17:10,810 --> 01:17:12,530 Barbenheimer same day like you were. 1520 01:17:12,930 --> 01:17:16,010 Unfortunately, I have class. I won't be able to do so, but I 1521 01:17:16,010 --> 01:17:17,930 will be seeing as much as like it. 1522 01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:21,750 Pains me to say I'll be watching Barbie on Thursday and then I'll 1523 01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:25,230 be watching Oppenheimer on Friday and maybe it's okay that 1524 01:17:25,230 --> 01:17:27,470 I can sit with one one night at a time. 1525 01:17:27,830 --> 01:17:31,630 But in hindsight I've been looking forward to this day for 1526 01:17:31,630 --> 01:17:34,310 a couple years now and the fact that I'm not going to be able to 1527 01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:37,190 experience it the same way you are, it doesn't sit right with 1528 01:17:37,190 --> 01:17:39,870 me. But Ricky flicks that's our 1529 01:17:39,870 --> 01:17:41,750 review can you preview what we got. 1530 01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:45,790 So we got Wednesday, we got a draft coming Friday we got check 1531 01:17:45,790 --> 01:17:48,920 up and then. Tell us what's going on so 1532 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,160 Wednesday, what kind of draft we're doing? 1533 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,640 Barbenheimer Draft We're drafting all the actors in both 1534 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,200 Barbie and Oppenheimer. Excellent. 1535 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,800 And it's going to be sick. Barbieheimer draft. 1536 01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:09,040 Check up on Friday and then Sunday's the Yeah on Friday then 1537 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:13,680 Monday's the day Oppenheimer Barbie double reveal. 1538 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,840 We have to do both. Yeah. 1539 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,200 No, no, I haven't. It's the Barbenheimer pot. 1540 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,520 It's the Barbenheimer pot, right? 1541 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:23,800 We're gonna try and get a guest on. 1542 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,000 We'll see what happens on that Monday. 1543 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,640 We might even drop it Sunday night, right? 1544 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,200 Just to make sure to give you something special. 1545 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,240 Lots of. It's gonna be hot in the 1546 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,880 streets. So be on the lookout Sunday 1547 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,840 night for Barbenheimer. A lot of hype going in. 1548 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,040 Check up as usual on Friday. We'll see what's going on with 1549 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,520 the SAG after a strike and see if there's any update at this 1550 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,840 point. We got some Guillermo del Toro 1551 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:51,640 news coming with Frankenstein with Andrew Garfield, Mia Goth, 1552 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,880 Oscar Isaac. A lot of good stuff still coming 1553 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,240 despite the strike, so stay locked in. 1554 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,200 Make sure you're following us on whichever platform you prefer to 1555 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,760 listen to. Make sure you raise five stars 1556 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,600 and subscribe to the pod and subscribe to our YouTube as 1557 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,960 well. If you're watching on there, 1558 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,530 like comment. 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