1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,400 This is the Drivein podcast. Take one. 2 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,840 Bada Bing bada Boom. Welcome to episode 250. 3 00:00:29,700 --> 00:00:33,180 Of the Drivein Podcast. On today's episode, we discussed 4 00:00:33,180 --> 00:00:36,420 the future of Christopher Nolan movies. 5 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:40,180 To use the bathroom. Now grab that popcorn and enjoy 6 00:00:41,420 --> 00:00:45,580 episode 250 of the Drivein Podcast. 7 00:01:01,130 --> 00:01:05,250 Howdy Doody, Welcome to episode 250 of TDI. 8 00:01:05,489 --> 00:01:10,450 This is Doctorow on the horn to start, per usual, and as always, 9 00:01:10,450 --> 00:01:15,290 I'm joined by my cohost, my best friend and Christopher Nolan 10 00:01:15,290 --> 00:01:19,850 fanatic Ricky Flicks. Excited to hear from you flicks 11 00:01:20,170 --> 00:01:21,850 you are going to be going through. 12 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,560 The Barbenheimer Experience tonight in theaters from the day 13 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,440 that we are recording this podcast, I want to get inside 14 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,120 your mind a little bit. I want to know your mindset. 15 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,400 I want to know if you've been watching YouTube videos of 16 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,720 atomic bomb detonations at Los Alamos. 17 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Have you gotten the toys out of the attic, the Barbie dolls, and 18 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,320 have you played with them a little bit over the last couple 19 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,360 hours? Tell me your mindset going into 20 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,860 Barbenheimer. Well, it's good to hear from 21 00:01:52,860 --> 00:01:56,980 you, Doctor. I cannot say I got any Barbies 22 00:01:56,980 --> 00:02:00,780 to play with. We did think about doing a toy 23 00:02:00,780 --> 00:02:02,660 draft. So I did go through some old 24 00:02:02,660 --> 00:02:06,180 toys because I could not think of toys like the toys I was 25 00:02:06,180 --> 00:02:09,180 thinking of. I have a list I just off the top 26 00:02:09,180 --> 00:02:13,780 of my head, I did Nerf gun, water gun, Super Soaker, Wiffle 27 00:02:13,780 --> 00:02:18,580 ball bat, Nerf Vortex football, Beyblades play DoH like it 28 00:02:18,580 --> 00:02:23,510 wasn't going well, like. Rock'em Sock'em Legos, Hot 29 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:27,310 Wheels, a Barbie. Like I I was struggling for toys 30 00:02:27,310 --> 00:02:28,670 because we played with action figures. 31 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:30,070 Like I didn't really play with toys. 32 00:02:30,790 --> 00:02:33,150 Ricky, my list would have kicked your ass. 33 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:36,430 My list, Ricky, the only commonality I had pretty much 34 00:02:36,430 --> 00:02:38,230 was Beyblades. Beyblades. 35 00:02:38,230 --> 00:02:40,470 I put that on there and that was like an honorable mention for 36 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:43,270 me. But when I thought of toys we 37 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:47,270 play with as kids, I think about like we love superheroes, we 38 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:49,470 love action figures. A lot of times the toys we had 39 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:51,420 were. Coinciding with promotion of 40 00:02:51,420 --> 00:02:57,740 films, the number one toy of our childhood was Hulkans and that 41 00:02:57,740 --> 00:03:01,580 came that was the only good thing to come out of Hulk from 42 00:03:01,660 --> 00:03:03,500 Angli. That was in the Eric Bana movie. 43 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:05,940 The only good thing to come out of that was Hulkans and if you 44 00:03:05,940 --> 00:03:10,780 recall Ricky flicks. We had those for a few years and 45 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:13,780 they had a couple of sound effects to him, but eventually 46 00:03:13,780 --> 00:03:16,740 they broke. One of them did at least and we 47 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:22,240 had to get like and re up. In 2007 when the Incredible Hulk 48 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,920 Marvel Cinematic Universe moved or 2008 right when the Marvel 49 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:30,520 Cinematic Universe movie came out, it was your birthday. 50 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,320 We reupped. But we use those up until like 51 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,080 we were 18 years old. It was just an excuse for us to 52 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,040 beat the ever living crap out of each other. 53 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,280 And like it didn't hurt that bad. 54 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 That was my number one. But I also had, nostalgia wise 55 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,930 Star Wars. Like action figures. 56 00:03:47,130 --> 00:03:50,170 Like, not ours, but our dads that he passed on to us. 57 00:03:50,570 --> 00:03:54,610 Like, yeah, the Death Star, but like, you could categorize it. 58 00:03:54,610 --> 00:03:57,290 We had like an OG Death Star that was so fun to play with. 59 00:03:57,810 --> 00:03:59,650 I had big wheels. Remember big wheels? 60 00:03:59,650 --> 00:04:00,730 I was thinking. Power Wheels. 61 00:04:02,250 --> 00:04:05,330 Same thing with like the the tricycles that are just badass. 62 00:04:05,650 --> 00:04:08,810 Yeah, Yeah, basically, yeah. Dude, us rolling, dude. 63 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:09,770 I had that. Me. 64 00:04:09,810 --> 00:04:12,690 Do and Big Mike rolling down the street with those there. 65 00:04:12,690 --> 00:04:16,220 There was no bigger. There was no bigger high, you 66 00:04:16,220 --> 00:04:18,740 know, than us just rolling in formation. 67 00:04:18,740 --> 00:04:20,820 Flying VI also had nerve football. 68 00:04:20,820 --> 00:04:23,740 Did you say nerve football? Yeah, nerve Like the but the 69 00:04:23,740 --> 00:04:27,340 vortex, the vortex is cooler. Not the whistle one. 70 00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:30,820 You can't just go nerve football, regular football. 71 00:04:30,980 --> 00:04:34,140 No, but like, I think of making it a personalized pick where it 72 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:36,940 was like a nerve football, but it's like the Steelers one we 73 00:04:36,940 --> 00:04:39,380 had. It's a little softer and it. 74 00:04:39,660 --> 00:04:42,100 You threw a. Perfect spiral each time, but 75 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:45,590 the whistle one. You can't play like 2V2 or you 76 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:48,310 can't do offensive defense with like a whistle football. 77 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:49,950 That's just like throwing it high in the air and makes the 78 00:04:49,950 --> 00:04:52,070 sound like I'm thinking about. It's awesome, Ricky. 79 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:53,950 When it comes down to it. We talk movies, but we're 80 00:04:53,950 --> 00:04:56,670 sportsmen, we're sportsmen. We want to, we want to go out 81 00:04:56,670 --> 00:04:58,870 there and compete and that's the thing you used. 82 00:05:00,150 --> 00:05:04,750 I also had Bop it. Yeah, I bop it, I said. 83 00:05:04,750 --> 00:05:10,570 Rock'em sock'em a slinky. Slinky terrible toy in my eyes 84 00:05:10,570 --> 00:05:12,330 just because it works half the time I. 85 00:05:12,370 --> 00:05:16,130 Basically wrote down either iconic historical toys or stuff 86 00:05:16,130 --> 00:05:18,930 from Toy Story like I. Was going to say. 87 00:05:19,210 --> 00:05:22,570 I had the army like toy army. Bop It was good though, because 88 00:05:22,690 --> 00:05:25,970 the one we got, we got, I think we were five years old, like I 89 00:05:25,970 --> 00:05:27,370 was five. You might have been three. 90 00:05:27,930 --> 00:05:31,090 And we didn't change the batteries for like 15 years. 91 00:05:31,290 --> 00:05:33,620 And it worked. Like the battery life on the 92 00:05:33,620 --> 00:05:37,860 Bop, it is severely underrated. Great for the environment, no 93 00:05:37,860 --> 00:05:40,900 one talks about that. I also the Batman action figures 94 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:43,020 combined with the bat cave that we had. 95 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:45,620 Amazing toy. Amazing. 96 00:05:45,660 --> 00:05:48,500 That's my personal favorite, but I don't know if that's quit that 97 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:50,220 would qualify. Like I said, I didn't include 98 00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:52,580 action figures here because I just feel like those aren't 99 00:05:52,580 --> 00:05:54,340 toys, they're just like they're action figures. 100 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:55,860 Whoa, whoa. They are toys. 101 00:05:55,860 --> 00:05:57,260 They are. Well, but, like, you know what I 102 00:05:57,260 --> 00:05:58,460 mean? Like they're that's like a 103 00:05:58,460 --> 00:05:59,980 cheat. Like we would basically just 104 00:05:59,980 --> 00:06:03,850 have a draft of action figures. I felt like with that bat cave I 105 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:08,370 had, I set a better setting than Nolan did in The Dark Night. 106 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:12,490 Better bat cave, I will say a better bat cave. 107 00:06:12,530 --> 00:06:18,330 If I became like a superhero director a la the Russo 108 00:06:18,330 --> 00:06:20,200 brothers. I would have called back to 109 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,880 those moments. I was playing with the setting 110 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,840 of the Bat Cave. I don't mean like I I dreamt 111 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:25,120 about this. You know how they say, like, 112 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,480 like Steven Spielberg was like making films when he was like 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,280 like 10 years old. I was playing with the Bat cave 114 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,880 since I was six years old. And I knew what this, what this 115 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,480 scene was going to look like where the Joker breaks into the 116 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Bat Cave, you know, you know, one. 117 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,760 Thing to kind of like pivot towards Ponoan a little bit that 118 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,040 not enough criticism for is the bat cave like Batman Begins he 119 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,600 falls down the hole or with like you know. 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,160 The lasso down, whatever. And then all the bats come and 121 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,480 the the Zimmer score hits right and all the bats are flying over 122 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,160 his head and he just accepts them right faces his fear right? 123 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Besides that, we don't really get a glimpse of the bat cave 124 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,880 again throughout the rest of the trilogy. 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,360 It burns down. Yeah, it burns down Dark Knight. 126 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,440 It's he's at a like an offsite bat cave. 127 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,800 That's incredibly fancy. But then the third one, he's not 128 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,840 even Batman anymore. It's like Dark Knight Returns 129 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,280 type of type of movie. And do we even get the bat cave 130 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,560 in that, like? Not until, not until Robin 131 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,000 enters it at the end with Joseph. 132 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,680 So that's something that we don't talk about, where he just 133 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,680 robbed us of a bat cave, and with his practical effects, he 134 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,240 could have done something with it there. 135 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,250 He gypped us. He get those from the Bat cave, 136 00:07:41,490 --> 00:07:43,850 but this is going to actually tie in even further. 137 00:07:43,850 --> 00:07:46,170 Ricky flicks is a great transition, thanks for talking 138 00:07:46,170 --> 00:07:49,970 about toys boys. But when it comes to like The 139 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:53,730 Dark Knight and you have like that futuristic looking type of 140 00:07:53,970 --> 00:07:56,770 like pseudo bat cave that we have, it actually is kind of 141 00:07:56,770 --> 00:07:59,410 James Bondish. You know, where it's like 142 00:07:59,530 --> 00:08:02,410 newish, stylish and then like all these new gadgets that are 143 00:08:02,410 --> 00:08:06,330 in there that maybe weren't in the first film secluded, like it 144 00:08:06,330 --> 00:08:09,290 feels like it could be right in. To where like Daniel Craig's 145 00:08:09,290 --> 00:08:11,810 movies where he would go and get new gadgets felt like very 146 00:08:11,810 --> 00:08:14,290 underground kind of felt like that to be honest. 147 00:08:15,650 --> 00:08:16,410 Okay. But what have you. 148 00:08:16,690 --> 00:08:17,850 You're seeing Barbenheimer tonight. 149 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:19,890 Can I, can I get some like sentiments, some feelings that 150 00:08:19,890 --> 00:08:21,730 you're having going into this. Are you nervous? 151 00:08:22,450 --> 00:08:25,810 Nervous. No, I'm not. 152 00:08:25,810 --> 00:08:29,890 I think I was nervous for Oppenheimer, not because I I 153 00:08:29,890 --> 00:08:33,770 wouldn't like it, but I was more nervous for the consumer 154 00:08:33,770 --> 00:08:35,890 projection of it. Like people were just saying 155 00:08:35,890 --> 00:08:37,929 like this might. I might not like it like tenant. 156 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,320 I like tenant is good, I'll die on that hill. 157 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,559 Tenant is good. I I was thinking like I might 158 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,720 have a tenant situation where this is a good movie but I might 159 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,360 have to defend it till I die. But it feels like the consensus 160 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,080 is that it's good, not just good but great. 161 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,320 So I'm really excited. But how would what am I doing to 162 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,960 prepare today? It's a great question. 163 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,600 So I woke up, didn't eat anything till 12, right? 164 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,880 And then I I worked out, ate, ate a big lunch. 165 00:09:07,460 --> 00:09:10,380 A big lunch, right? And then now it's like 166 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:13,100 recording. Around 3:15, I'm going to have 167 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:17,180 like a small snack to dinner. Small though. 168 00:09:17,580 --> 00:09:21,300 I'll have a coffee. And I've been I I usually drink 169 00:09:21,300 --> 00:09:25,380 over a gallon of water a day. I've had less than 20 ounces of 170 00:09:25,380 --> 00:09:29,380 water today. I am not peeing in Oppenheimer 171 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:31,780 or in Barbie. I'm not going to do it. 172 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:34,060 Not until the intermission. Intermission I will. 173 00:09:34,060 --> 00:09:36,860 So I'm seeing Oppenheimer and at 5:00 o'clock. 174 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:38,740 And I'm seeing Barbie at 10:00. O'clock. 175 00:09:39,660 --> 00:09:43,060 I am not peeing in either of those films, so I am not 176 00:09:43,060 --> 00:09:45,820 drinking water today. I'm just having a coffee right 177 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:47,460 beforehand. Right. 178 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:49,620 And go in five. O'clock. 179 00:09:49,740 --> 00:09:52,580 Ready to go for Oppenheimer. I'll do a little dinner pre 180 00:09:52,580 --> 00:09:55,780 Barbie. More like a snack, maybe a drink 181 00:09:55,780 --> 00:09:58,420 1/2 and 20 oz. Yeah, apps. 182 00:09:59,060 --> 00:10:00,780 And then going to Barbie ready to go again. 183 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:05,740 So what I'm nervous for is that you haven't really. 184 00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:08,950 Elaborated on your plan between the films. 185 00:10:09,270 --> 00:10:12,550 And what I'm nervous of is that we go to a theater that's right 186 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:14,110 near an Applebee's. Are you going to go to 187 00:10:14,110 --> 00:10:18,790 Applebee's, right, and get a 20 ounce Bud Light, suckle a couple 188 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:21,630 of those down and then walk in to Barbie? 189 00:10:21,630 --> 00:10:25,070 When I go see you later on this evening, are you going to be 190 00:10:25,550 --> 00:10:28,270 right? Have a couple couple of beers in 191 00:10:28,270 --> 00:10:31,070 you and you're going to have to go pee 20 minutes into Barbie 192 00:10:31,070 --> 00:10:32,510 and all of a sudden you're playing a shot? 193 00:10:33,150 --> 00:10:35,670 As I said on this podcast, I don't pee in good movies. 194 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:37,390 I just don't. Or movies that are important 195 00:10:37,390 --> 00:10:39,470 Barbies. You should. 196 00:10:39,470 --> 00:10:41,950 You should review movies based on whether you pee or not during 197 00:10:41,950 --> 00:10:44,910 them, yes. Strictly, I should like we come 198 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:45,910 out for the. Review you like. 199 00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:50,110 It's just like Ricky and he's like, yes, OK, end of review. 200 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:55,110 No bathroom breaks. I, I, I I can, I can hold it in 201 00:10:55,150 --> 00:10:56,630 though. Like, I still remember John Wick 202 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:59,190 four. I had to pee 25 minutes into 203 00:10:59,190 --> 00:11:01,470 that movie and that's like almost a three hour movie. 204 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,960 And I was not missing a single minute of that movie and I held 205 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,080 it in the rest of the way. I haven't held it in for the 206 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,480 post credit scene and the like, The very Last Post credit scene, 207 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,760 which and there were for so many stunt extras in that movie 208 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:15,960 because he killed so many people. 209 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,880 I we waited a long time and I was just pacing back and forth 210 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,400 down the aisle, you remember? So I am not. 211 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,080 One time we get a post credit scene. 212 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,640 So yeah, and Christopher Nolan does not make movies that often. 213 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:30,640 I am not peeing during a Christopher Nolan movie, so. 214 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,320 I'll be ready to go for Oppenheimer. 215 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,800 For Barbie. I'll dabble. 216 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Maybe a beer, too. Maybe a beer too. 217 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Not too much, though, or else I will have to pee. 218 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,160 Or I'll just pee my pants if Barbie's that good. 219 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,080 Yeah, I've never seen someone move so much but stay in one 220 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,000 seat during that John Wick 4 viewing right You you were ants 221 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,600 in the pants type of movement going on and you got to get 222 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,920 ready because you never know when that Albert Einstein post 223 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,120 credits going to be happening during the post credit for. 224 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,240 Oppenheimer, so just be ready for that. 225 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,600 But Speaking of Barbenheimer, we have been a lot of, we've been 226 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,480 giving a lot of credit to these two films for the promotion that 227 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,320 they've gone on and it's a Tour de force from both and it really 228 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,840 feels like an event that has led up to the premiere on the of 229 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,680 these two films. I was going to, I think it's a 230 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:25,680 good idea to talk about Christopher Nolan today. 231 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Because we don't really get to hear a lot from Christopher 232 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,000 Nolan, aside from when he's promoting films. 233 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,880 And they've been years between, right? 234 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,680 Sometimes three years, sometimes luckily 2 years, sometimes four 235 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:40,960 years. We are getting a lot of quotes 236 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,440 from Christopher Nolan and we got some absolute blockbuster 237 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,080 quotes, some absolute headliners from Nolan. 238 00:12:49,550 --> 00:12:53,030 And through these press interviews that he's doing, he's 239 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:56,750 revealed a lot about potential future films that he'll be 240 00:12:56,750 --> 00:13:00,390 working on. And he's had interviews 241 00:13:00,390 --> 00:13:05,070 questioning him about superhero films, James Bond movies, and 242 00:13:05,070 --> 00:13:07,670 Star Wars films. Like Christopher Nolan. 243 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:11,550 Obviously we know has hasn't SHIELD away from IP before. 244 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:14,910 He's the man who resurrected Batman with The Dark Knight 245 00:13:14,910 --> 00:13:20,110 trilogy, so he stated strictly. That he will not be interested 246 00:13:20,630 --> 00:13:24,870 in making a superhero film in the future of his career. 247 00:13:25,390 --> 00:13:30,030 He has left the door open for both James Bond and Star Wars 248 00:13:30,030 --> 00:13:33,110 Rickiflox. Before we get into the juicy 249 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:37,070 parts of these interviews, I think we should talk about him. 250 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:41,170 Pushing aside superhero films, were you shocked at all that he 251 00:13:41,170 --> 00:13:44,330 decided to do this Ricky flicks? Do you think there's a hero that 252 00:13:44,330 --> 00:13:46,810 he might have aligned with? Maybe in the Marvel Cinematic 253 00:13:46,810 --> 00:13:49,730 Universe he already did DC? What do you think about the idea 254 00:13:49,730 --> 00:13:54,650 of no one basically brushing off superhero films? 255 00:13:55,450 --> 00:13:58,410 So no one? This is another reason why he's 256 00:13:58,650 --> 00:14:02,010 like my favorite director is because of also his strategy, 257 00:14:02,010 --> 00:14:06,170 his tactic like his tactical moves of what type of movies he 258 00:14:06,170 --> 00:14:07,590 does. Right. 259 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:11,830 He's diversified. He diversifies his, like, resume 260 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:15,630 and around his creativity, his creativity. 261 00:14:15,830 --> 00:14:17,270 Yeah, that's. Yeah, I said that, right? 262 00:14:17,950 --> 00:14:19,830 He always has to have a compelling story. 263 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:23,310 So he has to find something that he thinks he could put his 264 00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:28,150 creative twist on it, right. And superheroes, it's harder to 265 00:14:28,150 --> 00:14:29,710 do that. It just is. 266 00:14:29,990 --> 00:14:33,670 And the reason why he picked Batman is because. 267 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:36,380 There's so many different ways to attack that character. 268 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:39,300 That comic book, that comic book hero, he's not truly a 269 00:14:39,300 --> 00:14:41,060 superhero. His only real power is his 270 00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:44,340 wealth, right? And you could really be flexible 271 00:14:44,340 --> 00:14:45,980 Batman. You could do a young Batman, you 272 00:14:45,980 --> 00:14:48,900 could do a prime Batman, You could do a a dad Batman. 273 00:14:49,020 --> 00:14:50,420 You could do a Dark Knight Returns. 274 00:14:50,420 --> 00:14:51,860 You could do so many different things. 275 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:56,460 And the practicality of it, the grounded nature of a Batman 276 00:14:56,460 --> 00:15:00,260 movie, is just different than a guy flying through the air or a 277 00:15:00,260 --> 00:15:02,860 guy that has a ring that could project any object on. 278 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,520 OK, so a Batman just fit his style so well versus when he was 279 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,520 offered to do Superman Man of Steel, he passed on it right? 280 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,640 So it makes sense he doesn't want to get grounded once again 281 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,320 to a franchise like that. Most likely specifically 282 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,920 probably a Marvel movie since he's already been on the DC side 283 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,080 and James Gunn who he's pretty much in control and. 284 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:27,180 Christopher Nolan needs to be in control. 285 00:15:27,180 --> 00:15:29,380 He's an auteur. There's a reason why The Dark 286 00:15:29,380 --> 00:15:31,100 Knight wasn't a part of the DCEU. 287 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:33,660 It was a separate entity like Matt Reeves is doing with his 288 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:36,300 Batman. And I think the analogy that I 289 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:40,020 like to use with Christopher Nolan is soccer players they 290 00:15:40,020 --> 00:15:42,670 love. To go to different leagues and 291 00:15:42,670 --> 00:15:45,670 like quote UN quote, conquer or test out their limits in 292 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:47,470 different leagues. I like to go to England, they go 293 00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:50,190 to Spain, La Liga, they go to Germany, the Bundesliga. 294 00:15:50,470 --> 00:15:52,990 They like to test out their skills and see if they match up 295 00:15:52,990 --> 00:15:55,070 with the best of the best and all these different great 296 00:15:55,070 --> 00:15:57,190 leagues. Crisper Nolan, he's done a war 297 00:15:57,190 --> 00:15:58,990 film. He's already he's done a scifi 298 00:15:58,990 --> 00:16:00,950 film, He's done a superhero movie already. 299 00:16:01,270 --> 00:16:04,470 He's done a period piece biopic Now, biopic now, right? 300 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:07,950 He likes to test out different genres, right? 301 00:16:07,950 --> 00:16:11,380 That's why I love this guy so. No superhero. 302 00:16:11,580 --> 00:16:13,460 I totally think he's not bluffing. 303 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:17,260 Only Batman for him. I thought it would have been 304 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:19,660 absolutely hilarious if like when that person in the 305 00:16:19,660 --> 00:16:22,100 interview would ask him all these different franchises. 306 00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:25,100 If the guy just said Chronicles and Narnia and he would said, 307 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:28,700 like, I absolutely would be open to it knowing that credit Garlic 308 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,540 is directing the next. Couple movies for. 309 00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:34,380 Netflix I I think that would have been absolutely genius. 310 00:16:34,380 --> 00:16:37,100 But I he will never make a movie for streaming too, I guess. 311 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:38,780 Something we can always count on for Christopher Nolan. 312 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:42,820 But you're right about Batman. It was perfectly lined up for 313 00:16:42,820 --> 00:16:45,180 him. He is someone who likes to go 314 00:16:45,180 --> 00:16:50,100 into this fantastical world of movies, something that seems 315 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:52,460 impossible. He wants to make it seem as real 316 00:16:52,460 --> 00:16:55,780 as possible, you know, Especially when you look at what 317 00:16:55,780 --> 00:16:59,700 he did with Batman Interstellar. He wants to apply so many. 318 00:17:00,130 --> 00:17:04,210 Accurate astrophysics on that film to make it seem like this 319 00:17:04,210 --> 00:17:07,210 could happen, right? He wants to make it seem as 320 00:17:07,210 --> 00:17:11,810 legit as possible, and it seems like the Batman today is taking 321 00:17:11,810 --> 00:17:14,970 up right that space with Matt Reeves. 322 00:17:15,089 --> 00:17:18,450 He's taking up that space that Nolan occupied, right? 323 00:17:18,609 --> 00:17:22,450 And there's no greater feat that he can accomplish with a 324 00:17:22,450 --> 00:17:24,810 superhero character than what he did with The Dark Knight 325 00:17:24,810 --> 00:17:28,530 trilogy, right? If he goes back like the bar has 326 00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:31,490 been set too high. There's and there's no way he 327 00:17:31,490 --> 00:17:34,970 can go to the Marvel Cinematic Universe because he likes to 328 00:17:34,970 --> 00:17:39,010 build something on his own. Batman was in the doldrums when 329 00:17:39,010 --> 00:17:42,010 he took that on, right? Coming off the campiness, this 330 00:17:42,010 --> 00:17:46,330 fantastical type of like normal superhero story, he saw like, 331 00:17:46,330 --> 00:17:50,290 OK, that didn't work in the 90s. I can do and really put my stamp 332 00:17:50,290 --> 00:17:55,650 on this and give us something that is grounded the superheroes 333 00:17:55,650 --> 00:17:59,490 today in the MCU, he has like more of his vision to the MCU. 334 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,960 He doesn't want to play by anyone's rules but his own, 335 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,200 right? So he doesn't fit in that world 336 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,000 either. That's why I think when we talk 337 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,520 about Star Wars, it may not be the best fit. 338 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,080 But the state of Star Wars right now I think lends some openness 339 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,840 potentially for him to do a Star Wars film. 340 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,840 We will get to it. Ricky flicks OK, so no superhero 341 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,560 films, but James Bond potentially on the table here. 342 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,560 This has been talked about previously, I don't think. 343 00:18:29,060 --> 00:18:33,260 Or I can't recall Christopher Nolan ever saying out loud that 344 00:18:33,260 --> 00:18:36,940 he would do a James Bond movie. Or at least for us, his fans 345 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:39,620 would be able to hear. This is the quote he had in an 346 00:18:39,620 --> 00:18:43,620 interview. The Happy Sad Confused podcast. 347 00:18:43,620 --> 00:18:47,340 I believe it was, he said quote the influence of the James Bond 348 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:50,460 movies in my filmography is embarrassingly apparent. 349 00:18:50,860 --> 00:18:54,140 It would be an amazing privilege to do one at the same time. 350 00:18:54,140 --> 00:18:56,900 When you take on a character like that, you're working with a 351 00:18:56,900 --> 00:19:00,230 particular set of constraints. It has to be the right moment in 352 00:19:00,230 --> 00:19:03,750 your creative life where you can express what you want to express 353 00:19:03,950 --> 00:19:08,390 and really bury into something within the approach appropriate 354 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:10,270 constraints. Because you would never want to 355 00:19:10,270 --> 00:19:12,710 take on something like that and do it wrong. 356 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:15,470 You wouldn't want to take on a film without being fully 357 00:19:15,470 --> 00:19:18,510 committed to to what you bring to the table creatively. 358 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:22,310 So as a writer casting everything, it's a full package. 359 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:25,770 You have to really. Needed and wanted in terms of 360 00:19:25,770 --> 00:19:28,130 bringing the totality of what you bring to a character. 361 00:19:28,450 --> 00:19:31,410 Otherwise, I'm very happy to be at first in line to see whatever 362 00:19:31,410 --> 00:19:35,970 they choose to do. Ricky Flecks, he's directing a 363 00:19:35,970 --> 00:19:38,970 James Bond movie. If Christopher Nolan wants to do 364 00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:43,970 this, he's going to do it. It's it's lined up perfectly for 365 00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:46,010 him. So I've been saying this for a 366 00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:48,170 long time. I've always wanted Christopher 367 00:19:48,170 --> 00:19:52,170 Nolan to direct the James Bond movie with Tom Hardy as the 368 00:19:52,170 --> 00:19:54,590 leader. Unfortunately, Tom Hardy's 369 00:19:54,590 --> 00:19:59,990 gotten older, right that my take has been 14 years later, 13 370 00:19:59,990 --> 00:20:02,950 years later. It's a little out of date now, 371 00:20:03,030 --> 00:20:04,790 but Christopher Nolan still stands. 372 00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:08,870 The person that's lined up to play James Bond, A former 373 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:10,470 collaborator with Christopher Nolan? 374 00:20:10,550 --> 00:20:13,670 Aaron Taylor Johnson. Not confirmed yet, but that 375 00:20:13,670 --> 00:20:15,870 looks like it will be confirmed sooner than later. 376 00:20:17,070 --> 00:20:21,270 Christopher Nolan has it had ample opportunities to state his 377 00:20:21,310 --> 00:20:24,650 openness to a James Bond movie. Right. 378 00:20:25,170 --> 00:20:26,930 This is him saying he's open to it. 379 00:20:27,010 --> 00:20:29,050 He literally says he'll be first in line. 380 00:20:29,930 --> 00:20:33,770 This is him saying after this movie, I have nothing lined up. 381 00:20:34,370 --> 00:20:38,010 I am open to do a James Bond movie, if not two to three, 382 00:20:38,050 --> 00:20:39,810 three Max. He would never do more than a 383 00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:40,810 trilogy. I said it here. 384 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:43,890 It's an open spot right now. There's no director for that 385 00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:46,580 movie. Barbara Broccoli is looking 386 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:49,380 ferociously for the director. Christopher Nolan is basically 387 00:20:49,380 --> 00:20:50,700 saying, have you forgotten about me? 388 00:20:50,820 --> 00:20:52,300 I'm Christopher Nolan. I'm British. 389 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:55,740 James Bond plays a special, has a special place in my heart. 390 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:59,780 I always involve in my movie something characteristics from a 391 00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:01,140 James Bond movie. Right? 392 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,580 Has a James Bond element. I mentioned the British link 393 00:21:03,580 --> 00:21:06,660 with Christopher Nolan. It is too perfect. 394 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:09,820 And it's like Batman where there's so many different ways 395 00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:12,460 to attack that character. It's not a superhero. 396 00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:14,970 Right. And it's not like Ethan Hunt, 397 00:21:15,050 --> 00:21:17,650 where you could only have Tom Cruise do that because of the 398 00:21:17,650 --> 00:21:19,810 ridiculous stunts that they do, right? 399 00:21:20,170 --> 00:21:22,650 He can make sure that James Bond into his James Bond and have 400 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:25,810 complete control over it. I love this. 401 00:21:25,970 --> 00:21:27,730 I've been waiting so long for these comments. 402 00:21:28,210 --> 00:21:30,490 Love to hear this. He should direct the James Bond 403 00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:33,850 movie, if not more. Because the only IP he's been 404 00:21:33,850 --> 00:21:39,010 connected to in his career has been well directed is Batman. 405 00:21:39,650 --> 00:21:41,810 That's the only one, right? He produced Man of Steel. 406 00:21:41,810 --> 00:21:43,850 He's been involved with a couple other DC projects. 407 00:21:43,850 --> 00:21:47,330 The only one he's directed is The Dark Knight Trilogy. 408 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:51,170 I think he would have such an openness to this because he's a 409 00:21:51,170 --> 00:21:53,970 man who is exemplified British pride, right? 410 00:21:53,970 --> 00:21:57,650 He it shines through a Dunkirk right? 411 00:21:57,650 --> 00:22:01,690 And imagine like he takes like one of the most important events 412 00:22:01,890 --> 00:22:05,490 or proud moments for England in the 20th century. 413 00:22:06,410 --> 00:22:09,490 And then he wants to take one of the proudest real life moments 414 00:22:09,490 --> 00:22:14,970 and then take also one of the, I guess, the proudest fictional 415 00:22:14,970 --> 00:22:18,130 character that belongs to England. 416 00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:21,970 I think he would absolutely jump at this opportunity. 417 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:25,730 It certainly sounds like it. And you're right, Daniel Craig's 418 00:22:25,730 --> 00:22:28,250 time is over. He overstretched his time as 419 00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:31,130 James Bond, right? He went one movie at least over 420 00:22:31,130 --> 00:22:33,250 what he was really anticipating himself. 421 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:39,100 To execute so he has a chance to start from scratch. 422 00:22:39,380 --> 00:22:42,260 He can choose to do whatever he pleases and the constraints of 423 00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:45,820 the James Bond franchise does not seem like it is as strict as 424 00:22:45,820 --> 00:22:48,900 let's say A Star Wars right? He has a lot more room to 425 00:22:48,980 --> 00:22:50,940 operate. He can either. 426 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,940 He can make a one off movie and I would be okay with it. 427 00:22:54,340 --> 00:22:55,900 Aaron Taylor Johnson you brought up. 428 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:57,220 He's a rumor. Next Bond. 429 00:22:57,870 --> 00:23:00,510 It makes me think, was Barbara Broccoli playing a little bit of 430 00:23:00,510 --> 00:23:04,510 chess here when they cast Aaron Taylor Johnson because he had 431 00:23:04,510 --> 00:23:07,070 worked with Christopher Nolan and Tennant? 432 00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:10,710 Did she think there was a possibility Nolan would direct 433 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:13,990 Aaron Taylor Johnson and that's why he is rumored and never 434 00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:17,350 confirmed yet to be the next Bond, but rumored right? 435 00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:20,830 What if they had confirmed a Bond and it hadn't been approved 436 00:23:20,830 --> 00:23:23,750 by Christopher Nolan? I think they left their options 437 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:26,590 on the table and now there's certainly an openness and. 438 00:23:27,130 --> 00:23:29,810 I want to hear any other further thoughts before we go into Who 439 00:23:29,810 --> 00:23:33,370 would you connect Christopher Nolan Bond movie to an actor? 440 00:23:34,810 --> 00:23:40,490 Yeah, like you said it, Star Wars, the MCUDCEU just way too 441 00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:42,370 tied to they. They literally are part of 442 00:23:42,370 --> 00:23:47,170 franchises and like DCEUMCU they would have to connect to other 443 00:23:47,170 --> 00:23:49,730 characters in the franchise. Yada yada yada. 444 00:23:49,930 --> 00:23:52,530 The only superhero thing I could see him doing, which I can't, 445 00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:55,890 would be an Elseworld project. But the problem is. 446 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:59,190 He already used Batman the only non true superhero. 447 00:23:59,390 --> 00:24:01,710 So it just won't happen. So the only thing that come 448 00:24:01,710 --> 00:24:05,350 close is like a spy's espionage IP type of thing and that's 449 00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:07,750 James Bond. But Barbara Broccoli has let 450 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:11,550 that let the creators run wild with James Bond and Christopher 451 00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:15,430 Nolan like you said has that pride that British link that and 452 00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:17,390 any as an appreciation towards Steve Bond. 453 00:24:17,390 --> 00:24:19,070 Like he said in the interview that the quote that you 454 00:24:19,070 --> 00:24:22,030 mentioned, he's going to ring true like he's going to come 455 00:24:22,030 --> 00:24:24,150 through for Barbara Broccoli and James Bond. 456 00:24:24,490 --> 00:24:26,170 He's not going to make a bad James Bond movie. 457 00:24:26,330 --> 00:24:27,730 He's going to put his heart and soul into it. 458 00:24:27,730 --> 00:24:30,090 And again, he has nothing lined up himself. 459 00:24:30,370 --> 00:24:33,770 So these comments he's had his entire career since literally 460 00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:38,650 momentum 2000 to mention James Bond, his willingness to do it 461 00:24:38,850 --> 00:24:41,330 and he hasn't. Why, He's had other ambitions, 462 00:24:41,810 --> 00:24:43,810 right? He needed to get bigger, more 463 00:24:43,810 --> 00:24:49,290 complete filmmaker this that. Now he is the big swinging blank 464 00:24:49,290 --> 00:24:52,770 on the block here and he could do whatever he wants and he 465 00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:54,010 could. He's only 52. 466 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,360 So right now is the time to develop a James Bond, get a good 467 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,720 creative vision like he did with Batman, right. 468 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,680 The meta was 2005 years until Batman Begins, right? 469 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:07,840 Yeah. And then he did 2 movies during 470 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,160 the Batman franchise. So it's not like it's James Bond 471 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,800 and that's it he's doing. He did The Prestige in O 6 and 472 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,760 he did its inception in 2010 in between the Batman movies, the 473 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,160 trilogy. So he gets to do other movies, 474 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,720 right? But this is just the perfect 475 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,360 time for him. And then if he wants to dive 476 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,600 into an individual film like a Prestige or an Inception, then 477 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,880 so be it. He can do it. 478 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,040 When you think about it, he never really had the opportunity 479 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,610 to jump into Bond. As like a kickstart right to the 480 00:25:36,610 --> 00:25:39,490 next trilogy or the next James Bond actor? 481 00:25:39,730 --> 00:25:43,930 Like you had Memento, right? And then Insomnia. 482 00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:47,850 Like that's like early 2000s. Pierce Brosnan is Bond at that 483 00:25:47,850 --> 00:25:50,410 time and Chris Nolan hasn't created a name for himself. 484 00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:54,330 And then you jump to Casino Royale in 2005. 485 00:25:54,570 --> 00:25:57,410 Christopher Nolan is worried about creating, right this 486 00:25:57,410 --> 00:26:00,220 iconic Batman trilogy. Right. 487 00:26:00,220 --> 00:26:02,860 And then Daniel Craig has remained that Bond, or was that 488 00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:07,540 Bond until 2021, right? Christopher Nolan not tied down 489 00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:12,260 to any franchise or any sequel or any trilogy, right, Since 490 00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:15,540 2012. This does not line up any better 491 00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:19,260 in terms of who should be James Bond. 492 00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:21,580 Aaron Taylor Johnson is the rumored guy. 493 00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:25,860 I wouldn't hate it, but I have certainly a few other ideas and 494 00:26:25,860 --> 00:26:27,500 what I was thinking Ricky Flex is. 495 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:29,990 He doesn't have to make a trilogy. 496 00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:32,030 I was thinking maybe we go T don't. 497 00:26:32,670 --> 00:26:36,630 Maybe we go like George Lazenby. Maybe we go one movie, 2 movies, 498 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:41,390 maybe an aging James Bond, maybe one who is going for one last 499 00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:47,710 ride and therefore Tom Hardy. He is a Oh my, he is a someone 500 00:26:47,710 --> 00:26:50,990 who hasn't collaborated since Nolan since 2017 with Dunkirk. 501 00:26:51,390 --> 00:26:54,630 We know how much Nolan loves Hardy. 502 00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:58,880 The only thing is every time. Aside from Inception that Hardy 503 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480 shows up in the Nolan movies covering his goddamn face, 504 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,040 right? So hopefully Nolan be open to 505 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,120 having Hardy show off right his mug for an entire film. 506 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,040 But I would not hate the idea of having a one off Tom Hardy, 507 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,360 Christopher Nolan? James Bond. 508 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,040 How could you say no, it's happened before in the 509 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,640 franchise. I'll play devil's advocate. 510 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,160 The problem is we just had the old James Bond for the past 10 511 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,600 years, Skyfall Spectre. We look at 3 movies. 512 00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:32,550 Of old James Bond, right? So that might be a a nonstarter. 513 00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:34,470 That's probably his only hiccup here. 514 00:27:34,910 --> 00:27:39,670 But if you make it a unique enough, different enough, right 515 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:44,310 then the Daniel Craig James Bond and who better to make something 516 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:47,550 different and creative than Christopher Nolan then yeah, I 517 00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:49,510 think it's open. But he he would have to have a 518 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:52,510 good pitch to be like this is how it's different. 519 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,240 Yes, there's a similar age, similar story going on, but This 520 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,160 is why it's different. Yes, then I would see it. 521 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:06,200 And I would say that my one of my bonds that I wanted before I 522 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,480 knew his actual age was Killian Murphy. 523 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,560 And if Oppenheimer is as good as the critics say and Killian 524 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,960 Murphy shoulders this movie to a zillion Oscar nominations, 525 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,930 potentially Best actor, when. Be intriguing if he was James 526 00:28:20,930 --> 00:28:23,490 Bond, but I think after Oppenheimer people are going to 527 00:28:23,490 --> 00:28:25,810 have a certain visual of killing Murphy. 528 00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:30,850 He is a person that was preparing for Oppenheimer by 529 00:28:30,850 --> 00:28:34,210 eating an almond a goddamn day and like, how are you going to 530 00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:36,850 see this guy play an aging James Bond like that doesn't seem 531 00:28:36,850 --> 00:28:38,690 likely. Tom Hardy can much more 532 00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:44,930 visualize in the character. But in terms of like a trilogy, 533 00:28:45,010 --> 00:28:48,290 like I like, I don't think no one wants to make one movie and 534 00:28:48,290 --> 00:28:50,850 then pass the buck right to another director. 535 00:28:50,850 --> 00:28:53,650 That's not his style. He wants to execute his vision. 536 00:28:53,770 --> 00:28:57,490 So it's like depending on the success of Oppenheimer, 537 00:28:57,610 --> 00:29:02,570 Oppenheimer wins best picture. What if or he wins best Best 538 00:29:02,570 --> 00:29:05,490 director? Could he make 3 James Bond 539 00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:07,850 movies? I think that's definitely a 540 00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:10,780 possibility. Or if Oppenheimer falls flat, 541 00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:14,460 maybe doesn't get all the accolades that we anticipate at 542 00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:17,820 the Oscars this year. Maybe, he says, does a one off 543 00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:20,820 where he pushes aside James Bond completely. 544 00:29:21,020 --> 00:29:22,580 But I think it's too juicy of an opportunity. 545 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:26,620 He cares too much about it. If I had to put odds or put a 546 00:29:26,620 --> 00:29:31,220 percentage on Does Chris for Nolan, Chris for Nolan make a 547 00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:35,860 Bond movie? I'm going 70 percent, 70%. 548 00:29:38,020 --> 00:29:42,900 This quote again, he has never been out outspoken about Bond. 549 00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:45,580 There's a reason and there's a reason when he said he would be 550 00:29:45,580 --> 00:29:51,820 first in line I I I I'd go 75. There's no reason before 551 00:29:51,820 --> 00:29:53,540 yesterday these quotes came out yesterday. 552 00:29:53,540 --> 00:29:58,820 I think the 20, the 19th before then I would be like 25%. 553 00:30:00,060 --> 00:30:04,420 Now I'm all the way up to 75. I I I'm so back, I'm all the way 554 00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:06,140 back. And I think when you go to 555 00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:08,250 actors it's tough. Yeah, just keep going. 556 00:30:08,250 --> 00:30:11,250 With their actors like I, I, I like the ones you brought out. 557 00:30:11,450 --> 00:30:13,370 Might as well just bring out like Christian Bale if we're 558 00:30:13,370 --> 00:30:14,930 going to go on the older side, frequent. 559 00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:17,930 Collaborator might as well. Might as well if you go kind of 560 00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:20,690 middle age again, probably won't happen. 561 00:30:20,690 --> 00:30:23,410 Robert Pattinson would be ideal. Again, tenant. 562 00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:28,610 Rick would be perfect like if this if how much of A flex would 563 00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:31,370 it be if you were playing James Bond and Batman at the same? 564 00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:35,530 Time. Christopher Nolan can pitch it 565 00:30:35,530 --> 00:30:38,270 because he could be like. I'm Christopher Nolan. 566 00:30:38,390 --> 00:30:39,990 Yeah. And I was like, I did Batman 567 00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:42,550 Begins in 05, did The Prestige with Christian Bale and Hugh 568 00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:45,470 Jackman in 06, did The Dark Knight, and I'll wait. 569 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:49,110 Then did Inception with Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hardy, Killian 570 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:54,030 Murphy and crew in 2010. So I could do this if you are 571 00:30:54,030 --> 00:30:56,030 in. Nolan loves him, too. 572 00:30:56,110 --> 00:30:59,230 Like Nolan, Nolan has said that part of his influencer making 573 00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:02,110 Oppenheimer is him getting the book. 574 00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:05,330 Of like the the biography, right? 575 00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:08,970 Or was autobiography, I believe maybe it was biography of 576 00:31:09,490 --> 00:31:13,050 Oppenheimer from Robert Pattinson during like the final 577 00:31:13,050 --> 00:31:16,250 like party like the after the shooting was done for Tenant. 578 00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:19,250 Now that's kind of nuts. And he was asked like, why isn't 579 00:31:19,250 --> 00:31:20,730 Robert Pattinson and Oppenheimer. 580 00:31:20,730 --> 00:31:23,650 His response was he's a busy guy, right. 581 00:31:23,650 --> 00:31:26,410 So it's not like he doesn't want to work with him and like when 582 00:31:26,410 --> 00:31:30,250 we look at him in tenant. You could totally imagine that 583 00:31:30,250 --> 00:31:33,610 guy as James Bond and he's still mid 30s, thirty four, I think 584 00:31:33,610 --> 00:31:36,530 right now, maybe 35. Barbara Broccoli has said they 585 00:31:36,530 --> 00:31:40,490 want a younger James Bond, like maybe early 30s, late 20s. 586 00:31:41,250 --> 00:31:44,530 But she's not going to like, close off the idea. 587 00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:47,170 She's going to like, like if Christopher Nolan wants to make 588 00:31:47,170 --> 00:31:50,530 a movie, you know, like I think she's going to like be flexible 589 00:31:50,530 --> 00:31:54,130 if Nolan has a certain vision and she cannot pick a better 590 00:31:54,130 --> 00:31:55,650 filmmaker for it. Yeah. 591 00:31:55,650 --> 00:32:00,980 So Robert Pattinson is 37, OK. And I think he would be open to 592 00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:04,140 doing James James Bond. One, because again, British 593 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,220 important to him, Two because of Christopher Nolan, But three, 594 00:32:07,940 --> 00:32:11,260 he's already shown that he's willing to make movies in 595 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:13,900 between The Batman. He has Mickey 17 coming out next 596 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,020 year with Bongchun Hones. Steven Yeun. 597 00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:19,220 It's not like Daniel Craig, you know, like Daniel Craig was like 598 00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:21,820 Bond and only Bond excite from like every couple years made 599 00:32:21,820 --> 00:32:26,170 another movie and like. God, Christian Bale did a Batman 600 00:32:26,170 --> 00:32:27,850 movie and then he did The Prestige. 601 00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:30,930 Like you could do it like it's so there. 602 00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:33,330 And I think Christopher Nolan has the respect in the industry 603 00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:34,570 and all these actors. Look at Matt Damon. 604 00:32:34,810 --> 00:32:37,490 Matt Damon told his wife and kids, I'm going to take a break 605 00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:39,450 from acting unless Christopher Nolan calls. 606 00:32:39,610 --> 00:32:42,890 He accepts Christopher is him. He is him. 607 00:32:43,090 --> 00:32:46,890 He is him. So it's Robert Pattinson as my 608 00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:49,610 number one. Obviously Tom Hardy. 609 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:52,850 I've had that in my, like, wow, my, like dreams. 610 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,600 Like, no pun intended inception since inception, but like Robert 611 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,080 Pattinson, like is the guy if no one does it. 612 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,040 I want to throw a couple names just because people are going to 613 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,880 ask like, why didn't you bring up these names that have been 614 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,680 heavily rumored for years? He worked as a producer on Man 615 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,080 of Steel. Henry Cavill is going to be 616 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,120 brought up. I don't know if he's a big 617 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,600 enough name at this point. It's be kind of like a little 618 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080 bit of a comeback, actually. Like a if he became James Bond 619 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,120 after like the tumultuous run he had as. 620 00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:24,380 Superman these last few years, last decade, I should say. 621 00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:27,300 I want to pitch you something else. 622 00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,340 Ricky Flex. People have talked about how can 623 00:33:30,340 --> 00:33:33,380 we make Bond different? I'm not necessarily in favor of 624 00:33:33,420 --> 00:33:38,220 it, but I don't hate this if we he was not work with a young 625 00:33:38,380 --> 00:33:43,020 actor highly sought after, but to do something different and 626 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:48,580 make it female Florence Pugh. I think Florence Pugh would be 627 00:33:48,580 --> 00:33:51,620 an interesting choice for James Bond because of her ties. 628 00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:55,100 She's British, She has a smaller role in Oppenheimer. 629 00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:57,820 Nolan has an affinity for her, obviously. 630 00:33:57,980 --> 00:34:00,740 Maybe he wants to have her in a league role for one of his 631 00:34:00,740 --> 00:34:02,700 films. And if you wanted to do 632 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:06,980 something that is flipping the franchise on Ted having a female 633 00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:11,020 lead, but also someone that is warmly received by all, I 634 00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:13,580 wouldn't hate if they went female and did Florence Pugh. 635 00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:17,380 Also, she has experienced Yolana Buckalova. 636 00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:21,780 Bolova Bolova is Maria Bacalova Borat 2 Bolova. 637 00:34:22,179 --> 00:34:24,940 And those stunts seen, she's the best part of Black Widow and 638 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:27,739 she's going to have her own quote UN quote movie, her own 639 00:34:27,739 --> 00:34:30,659 quote UN quote movie and Thunderbolts next year so she 640 00:34:30,659 --> 00:34:35,020 won't be as attached to the MCO. So I love that idea. 641 00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:37,139 I love that idea. I think you make it. 642 00:34:37,139 --> 00:34:38,219 I don't know. Jamie Bond. 643 00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:41,420 I don't know. I don't know. 644 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:42,380 Trying to. Think of something. 645 00:34:43,989 --> 00:34:48,510 You just have to do something. I love that you flipped it on 646 00:34:48,510 --> 00:34:49,670 his head. You kind of restart the 647 00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:53,429 franchise that with a younger actor instead actress. 648 00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:56,909 I love the idea. And Christopher Nolan and we 649 00:34:56,909 --> 00:34:58,590 trust. In Christopher Nolan, we trust. 650 00:34:58,950 --> 00:35:02,630 Yeah, a lot of energy to it. Def Patel is also someone that 651 00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:06,310 is been on your radar for at least a year, maybe more at this 652 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:08,350 point. And you know what? 653 00:35:08,350 --> 00:35:10,110 Ricky flicks. Let's throw Sean Avery's hat in 654 00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:11,830 the ring. He dictates the draft of the 655 00:35:11,830 --> 00:35:13,790 Barbenheimer draft. He's been a tenant. 656 00:35:13,790 --> 00:35:15,750 And now he is in. He's trying to. 657 00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:18,190 Now he's an Oppenheimer. Let's get him in there, Ricky 658 00:35:18,190 --> 00:35:19,550 flicks. Come on, Sean Avery. 659 00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:21,550 His career is on the op and op at this point. 660 00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:25,710 Well, for you, I'm surprised you haven't said this name, Nicholas 661 00:35:25,710 --> 00:35:27,200 Hall. He's been turned down for 662 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,840 everything. He must might as well go for 663 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,120 James. Man, I, I in the whole hive we 664 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,000 can only take so much. He would go for some pointing 665 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,480 news dude. I think all he would be good. 666 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,600 He would be good. He would be good. 667 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,880 He's a little he's a little skinny almost no. 668 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,920 But it's in build. Hey Renfield, he showed he can 669 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,440 do the stunts. He could do them. 670 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,440 Don't, don't break my heart. It's been, it's been broken too 671 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,740 many times at this point. All right, so that goes the Bond 672 00:35:54,740 --> 00:35:58,540 front for Christopher Nolan. But he also had some thoughts on 673 00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:01,700 potentially helming another major franchise. 674 00:36:03,460 --> 00:36:06,020 He was asked very briefly, so we don't have to spend too much 675 00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:08,660 time talking about it. He was asked, like, would you do 676 00:36:08,660 --> 00:36:10,500 a TV show? He said no. 677 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:14,060 Would no one do a superhero film? 678 00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:16,260 Again? He said he's responded no. 679 00:36:16,460 --> 00:36:19,500 But then when it came to would you do a Star Wars film? 680 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:25,250 He said pass. Meaning pass on the question and 681 00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:28,010 Ricky. A lot of people swarm the 682 00:36:28,010 --> 00:36:31,170 Internet once they saw this video because what does pass 683 00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:35,050 mean in our language? Ricky was passed when he says 684 00:36:35,050 --> 00:36:37,570 pass in that situation. They're in talks. 685 00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:41,450 It means I can't talk about this, right? 686 00:36:41,570 --> 00:36:44,130 So I don't think he meant it in that way. 687 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:48,250 I honestly don't. And it goes also to the idea of, 688 00:36:48,850 --> 00:36:50,690 I don't think there's going to be as much. 689 00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:55,700 Openness or freedom for Nolan to execute his type of vision in an 690 00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:58,940 established Star Wars lore, If he was going to do something 691 00:36:58,940 --> 00:37:02,460 like James Mangold is doing, that might be on the table where 692 00:37:02,460 --> 00:37:07,340 he's going thousands of years in the past to set like what are 693 00:37:07,340 --> 00:37:11,340 the 10 commandments of the Jedi, the birth of the Force and the 694 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,060 the dark side? If you wanted Nolan go into the 695 00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:18,060 future and do something crazy, I think that's possible too, but I 696 00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:20,860 think Star Wars is in too much fluctuation right now. 697 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:22,920 However. It. 698 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,160 Would be sick if star if Christopher Nolan was the man to 699 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,360 resurrect Batman and then resurrected Star Wars. 700 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,680 You are forever the king of IP cinema. 701 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,160 Yeah, all right, so. Let me go with why he would do 702 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,400 it, right. And I'll just keep going with 703 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,440 what you were saying that rebuild this franchise, right? 704 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,080 He did it with Batman. He did it with superheroes. 705 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,480 Really. Yes, Spiderman. 706 00:37:48,910 --> 00:37:52,470 Tony Mcguire's beforehand, but like DC, like he, he did kind of 707 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:55,790 do it and he kind of set up the new template for superhero 708 00:37:55,790 --> 00:38:00,390 movies in the future. So that would be crazy, right? 709 00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:03,590 To work to kind of set up a new Star Wars world. 710 00:38:03,790 --> 00:38:06,230 You know, build. Yeah, world builder here with 711 00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:09,070 Star Wars with all the crazy fan base, the craziest fan base 712 00:38:09,070 --> 00:38:12,390 there is, the Easter eggs and small character reactions that 713 00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:14,110 this fan base would have. Christopher known. 714 00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:16,790 He would just get creative and go go the F off. 715 00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:20,560 All right. I think we saw with Interstellar 716 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,560 he could do some incredible visual effects here with 717 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,760 especially with the powerhouse budget of a Lucasfilm. 718 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,920 Disney to help like that would be that would be amazing. 719 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:34,440 And I think somewhere to Bond. Star Wars is huge for him. 720 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,760 He saw Star Wars 12 times in theaters like when it first came 721 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,560 out 2001, a space size. Is that in the book that I got 722 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,680 you? No, but I just know that off the 723 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,880 Dome. But he he loves. 724 00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:52,580 He loves Star Wars and scifi in general space, so that's why you 725 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:54,140 would do it. All right. 726 00:38:55,140 --> 00:38:57,540 But he's not doing it. He is not doing it. 727 00:38:57,540 --> 00:39:03,100 He's not the the past was not one of those passes that we have 728 00:39:03,220 --> 00:39:05,540 have come for passes to be. There's no rumors. 729 00:39:05,540 --> 00:39:07,980 There's no talks. James Bond though, that's that's 730 00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:10,540 on the table. That's where he elaborated, you 731 00:39:10,580 --> 00:39:13,220 know, different interview, but still he elaborated. 732 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:17,680 Like Star Wars again. It's a franchise like MCU or 733 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,800 DCU, right? It, Lucasfilm and Disney would 734 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,840 happen by the boss every day. Be like, why are you spending 735 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,920 this much money? I just you. 736 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,720 Can say this, this, this. You can't say this this this 737 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,120 right and. He could have done Superman. 738 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,880 They literally, DC was like or Warner Brothers were like, hey, 739 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,240 you're done with Batman, you want to do Man of Steel. 740 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,250 And he was like. Nah, but I'll produce the movie. 741 00:39:42,370 --> 00:39:44,010 He's anti you give you some names. 742 00:39:44,170 --> 00:39:46,650 He gave them Zack Snyder's name. He is the reason why we have 743 00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:49,210 snack Snyder. If you go like what's it called 744 00:39:49,850 --> 00:39:53,170 You back like backtrack. You know he is the reason. 745 00:39:54,530 --> 00:39:58,450 And again, he's getting older. He already did a trilogy right? 746 00:39:58,650 --> 00:40:00,370 Bond is different. That's not as much wear and 747 00:40:00,370 --> 00:40:02,730 tear. Star Wars would be like holy 748 00:40:02,730 --> 00:40:06,210 crap that would take forever to do that he that he would be only 749 00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:08,050 doing Star Wars movies. He would not have that 750 00:40:08,050 --> 00:40:11,090 flexibility where you do a James Bond and then the prestige of 751 00:40:11,090 --> 00:40:13,530 next year, then do a Bond again, then Inception. 752 00:40:13,650 --> 00:40:15,370 He would not be able to do that with Star Wars. 753 00:40:15,650 --> 00:40:17,450 And he's already done a space movie. 754 00:40:17,530 --> 00:40:20,610 I talked about how he wants to build out a complete director's 755 00:40:20,610 --> 00:40:23,970 resume where he's done a war movie, a superhero movie, a 756 00:40:23,970 --> 00:40:26,290 detective movie. He's already done something in 757 00:40:26,290 --> 00:40:29,370 this realm, a superhero. A Jedi is basically a superhero. 758 00:40:29,570 --> 00:40:31,690 So he's already done something like this, so. 759 00:40:32,140 --> 00:40:34,500 I just think it would be weight like way. 760 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:36,300 I think it's way out of the question. 761 00:40:36,540 --> 00:40:40,500 And I think working with Disney, just the CGI FX they would try 762 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,020 to force down his throat. Like look at Interstellar. 763 00:40:43,340 --> 00:40:47,580 There was barely any CGI or VFX in Interstellar. 764 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:51,340 Like think about that. Look what Disney would try to 765 00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:53,340 do. Secret Invasion has a $200 766 00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:56,380 million budget like Interstellar. 767 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,320 I only had like 130. Like it is crazy to look at 768 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,400 those, like I think about that. I would just, I would need to 769 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,480 see the behind the scenes video of him making a Star Wars film. 770 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,360 So I'm like, he's probably asking, I need a real Death 771 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,080 Star. I need a real lightsaber, right? 772 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,360 I need a blaster that's actually firing something, you know, I 773 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,010 feel like. He's not opposed to it because I 774 00:41:21,010 --> 00:41:24,050 think he loved the experience of making Interstellar and you talk 775 00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:25,930 about like what he could do for Star Wars that they haven't 776 00:41:25,930 --> 00:41:27,970 seen. It's like make in this day and 777 00:41:27,970 --> 00:41:31,730 age the practicality of the effects, like what could he 778 00:41:31,730 --> 00:41:36,570 bring and make it look legit In this age of of superheroes and 779 00:41:36,570 --> 00:41:42,410 Star Wars shows and movies, he can make it look real compared 780 00:41:42,410 --> 00:41:45,650 to what they are. These movies are continuously 781 00:41:45,650 --> 00:41:48,730 criticized for time and time again, you know. 782 00:41:49,220 --> 00:41:52,220 I just think he likes, as I said before, he wants to have 783 00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:54,380 control. He wants to steer the ship. 784 00:41:54,380 --> 00:41:57,860 He doesn't want to have to like ask permission to do things. 785 00:41:58,140 --> 00:42:00,180 He's Christopher Nolan. He doesn't ask permission. 786 00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:03,100 He makes the. He makes the rules, you know. 787 00:42:03,220 --> 00:42:05,340 So that's why it's like, I don't see it happening. 788 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,380 I don't think even if Christopher Nolan said he'll do 789 00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:10,820 it, Kathleen Kennedy is still going to say, OK, here's a list 790 00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:13,060 of what you can and cannot include, right. 791 00:42:13,060 --> 00:42:15,460 It does like Bond. He won't get that. 792 00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:17,540 He won't do that and people like. 793 00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:20,980 Like people hate on the broccoli for the rights that they have 794 00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:24,620 and like the the the Titan grip they have on James Bond. 795 00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:28,460 You can start from scratch. You can just say Chris Reno, 796 00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:30,220 what do you want to do? Confirm it? 797 00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:32,540 Yes, go. I just think it's a totally 798 00:42:32,540 --> 00:42:34,100 different sphere. It's totally different. 799 00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:37,180 And I think also just like look at all the issues with 800 00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:40,260 leadership that Disney has, right? 801 00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:44,780 Like Bob Iger, he just extended his content 2026. 802 00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:47,290 Right. Kevin Feige behind MCU, he's 803 00:42:47,290 --> 00:42:49,410 still there. Kathleen Kennedy, we talked 804 00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:53,690 about at at Disney, sorry, at Lucasfilm you still have Dave 805 00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:56,050 Filoni, Jon Favreau right there, right. 806 00:42:56,250 --> 00:43:00,890 There's so much disarray going on with Disney at A at executive 807 00:43:00,890 --> 00:43:05,730 level but also in Lucasfilm with just their with their slate of 808 00:43:05,810 --> 00:43:09,930 releases coming out, you forget there's a skeleton key series 809 00:43:09,930 --> 00:43:12,410 coming out. We have a Ray movie, we have 810 00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:14,610 like we have so many different things there's. 811 00:43:14,980 --> 00:43:18,260 It is incoherent, The slate, there's nothing connected except 812 00:43:18,260 --> 00:43:21,620 the mandoverse, which is on a down on downward slope right 813 00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:23,020 now. Downward trajectory. 814 00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,380 Like no one would need to be in total alter control just like 815 00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:28,940 he's used to and he wouldn't be. And I just think with the 816 00:43:28,940 --> 00:43:31,020 disarray that Disney's going through at a company level, 817 00:43:31,020 --> 00:43:34,820 executive level and Lucasfilm who are just in complete 818 00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:37,660 disarray, I don't even think there's an opportunity for him 819 00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:40,380 that he would be able to rebuild this franchise. 820 00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:44,490 Like he did with Super Like the Bat with Batman in DC. 821 00:43:44,770 --> 00:43:47,130 Mango took the spot. Yeah, there's just, there's 822 00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:49,250 literally no opening. We talked about opening for 823 00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:51,290 James Bond. There's literally no opening 824 00:43:51,290 --> 00:43:53,490 here. So it just makes no sense. 825 00:43:53,890 --> 00:43:56,450 So we're. Out on Star Wars for Christopher 826 00:43:56,450 --> 00:44:01,570 Nolan. We are 130% in on James Bond and 827 00:44:01,570 --> 00:44:04,650 Christopher Nolan Ricky Flex. Before we wrap up today's 828 00:44:04,970 --> 00:44:08,650 podcast, I wanted to just ask you plain and simple. 829 00:44:08,970 --> 00:44:10,530 Nolan makes three types of movies, bro. 830 00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:18,890 He makes IP, he makes scifi spectacle, or he makes 831 00:44:19,170 --> 00:44:25,210 historical epic. What's his next film, man? 832 00:44:25,770 --> 00:44:29,210 I want to say James Bond but. Not even that specifically. 833 00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:32,850 What category does he go in? All right, if I get away from 834 00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:39,490 James Bond, his best is psychological thriller Okay. 835 00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:42,950 And if you look it back at Memento, you can include Batman, 836 00:44:43,350 --> 00:44:45,430 you can include The Prestige, Inception. 837 00:44:45,790 --> 00:44:47,430 Those are all his like, crazy twist. 838 00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:49,790 That's because we're knowing why we love him, right? 839 00:44:51,110 --> 00:44:58,910 I would love to see some sort of another detective movie, but in 840 00:44:58,910 --> 00:45:01,150 one of my favorite genres, Maybe a courtroom drama. 841 00:45:02,310 --> 00:45:03,630 Oh, he ain't making a courtroom. Drama. 842 00:45:03,790 --> 00:45:06,790 So it's a detective movie, but then you splash in some 843 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:08,420 courtroom scenes. Would love that. 844 00:45:08,860 --> 00:45:11,260 I just have a hard time seeing him scale down. 845 00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:13,620 Yeah, he wouldn't. He wouldn't, to be clear. 846 00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:16,900 But he has to have effects. He has to have some type of 847 00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:19,500 effects in his movie, like it would be cool to see. 848 00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:22,180 I think he has a bar he has to hit every time he makes a movie. 849 00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:25,580 Now I would love to see him make something like The Prestige next 850 00:45:25,580 --> 00:45:30,060 though something smaller but still in a long epic. 851 00:45:30,140 --> 00:45:32,900 I like dueling characters, maybe like. 852 00:45:33,350 --> 00:45:35,910 Scale back the effects and make something small scale. 853 00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:38,230 That's what I want to see. Or he's making James Bond. 854 00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:40,630 I I think I put money on James Bond like. 855 00:45:41,310 --> 00:45:42,870 It's hard for him to. Up this. 856 00:45:43,230 --> 00:45:47,950 We said that after but it is really hard to up like this run 857 00:45:47,950 --> 00:45:53,230 the war movie Dunkirk tenant the mind or mind shifting, world 858 00:45:53,230 --> 00:45:55,470 shifting backwards in time movie. 859 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:59,710 Like I think he's done like amazing job scaling up. 860 00:46:00,340 --> 00:46:02,500 He needs to scale down and get back to his roots. 861 00:46:02,620 --> 00:46:05,180 Insomnia, another twist, twist movie. 862 00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:06,860 I would love to see something like that. 863 00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:08,860 I just said courtroom just to dabble in. 864 00:46:08,860 --> 00:46:11,620 It kind of fits in with a detective and also the hey, you 865 00:46:11,620 --> 00:46:15,100 have two guys that are two people doing it out similar 866 00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:18,060 style. Just bring down the stakes, 867 00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:21,700 bring down the size of the cast, do something that's not going to 868 00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:25,540 like, absolutely destroy you, you know, It's just like an 869 00:46:25,540 --> 00:46:27,900 absolute exhaust, like all of your energy. 870 00:46:28,060 --> 00:46:31,080 Let's just see you like. Can let's go back to can you go 871 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,480 back to the old you can you do that like that would be 872 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,360 impressive in my eyes if he was able to do it. 873 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,960 Like I would, I would honestly love a different shade of 874 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,480 Memento where it's honestly like more like a I would love that. 875 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,320 Yeah, that would be really interesting. 876 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,400 The detective story like Memento but more like A7 where it's not 877 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,400 like sure it's mine. You could be like mind shifting 878 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,120 and everything, but still we get back to our roots. 879 00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:58,890 Two people going at it and you could still have some great like 880 00:46:59,130 --> 00:47:02,730 action sequences like all these other movies have and you could 881 00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:04,290 kind of make it. I don't know. 882 00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:06,170 I don't know you can make it. I'm not, I don't want to say 883 00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:08,010 serial killer. I'll just use seven as an 884 00:47:08,010 --> 00:47:10,170 example. Like it could be something like 885 00:47:10,170 --> 00:47:11,570 that. There's other genres. 886 00:47:11,570 --> 00:47:14,610 I would love to see him kind of dabbling, but kind of get back 887 00:47:14,610 --> 00:47:16,690 to our roots. He doesn't have an Oscar. 888 00:47:16,690 --> 00:47:18,090 He's probably trying to go for one. 889 00:47:18,410 --> 00:47:20,810 So he probably isn't going to scale down if. 890 00:47:21,250 --> 00:47:24,290 If because those movies won't win an Oscar, so the Heels keep 891 00:47:24,290 --> 00:47:26,730 scaling up until he gets one, or he'll ship to James. 892 00:47:26,730 --> 00:47:30,050 Bond, that's why I think like if he wins for Oppenheimer do he's 893 00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:32,650 making he's making Bond, that's that's what's going to happen. 894 00:47:32,650 --> 00:47:35,530 You know, it's just like he has gotten that much elusive Oscar 895 00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:38,770 and he did it making a very much Christopher Nolan movie, you 896 00:47:38,770 --> 00:47:40,450 know, I think he'd be very proud of that. 897 00:47:41,850 --> 00:47:44,130 That's going to do it. For our conversation on 898 00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:47,090 Christopher Nolan, Ricky Flecks, any thoughts before you head to 899 00:47:47,090 --> 00:47:50,890 the cinemas tonight to see the double feature? 900 00:47:52,090 --> 00:47:54,770 Of the Millennium. Double feature of the 901 00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:57,770 Millennium. Biggest movie day of the pod for 902 00:47:57,770 --> 00:48:00,730 me. Movie day for me of the year and 903 00:48:00,730 --> 00:48:03,090 that includes doing Part 2. Killers of the Flower Moon. 904 00:48:03,210 --> 00:48:05,330 Just seeing both these movies on the same day. 905 00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:08,250 Barbenheimer. It's the peak of movie theater 906 00:48:08,250 --> 00:48:12,130 experience of the year. Maybe like I can't remember the 907 00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:16,370 last time nonsuit like when was the last time If you like you 908 00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:19,650 were seeing Barbenheimer. This like the social media 909 00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:22,330 effect. The promotion, Everything around 910 00:48:22,330 --> 00:48:24,770 this. The hype Non superhero. 911 00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:27,450 When's the last time I was that excited? 912 00:48:27,770 --> 00:48:29,530 It's a good question, Ricky Flex. 913 00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:33,170 I would have said if this movie came out in theaters, it would 914 00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:35,690 have been an Irishman, honestly. I was. 915 00:48:35,770 --> 00:48:39,970 So I have two answers. Both it was a so for me. 916 00:48:39,970 --> 00:48:43,330 It was Fallout Once Upon a time in Hollywood. 917 00:48:43,650 --> 00:48:44,810 Once Upon a time in Hollywood's good. 918 00:48:45,340 --> 00:48:48,220 So like those two are really like the last time I was like, 919 00:48:48,220 --> 00:48:49,860 holy crap. But the problem is like both 920 00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:52,820 those movies again. Both both around my birthday 921 00:48:53,260 --> 00:48:57,580 birthday movies for me, but also like a nonsuperhero that. 922 00:48:58,550 --> 00:49:00,830 By great directors or movie. Joker. 923 00:49:00,830 --> 00:49:03,190 Oh, that's superhero. I was gonna say Joker. 924 00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:05,310 Superhero billion dollars. Didn't feel like it. 925 00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:07,070 Yeah. But yeah, like, I don't know. 926 00:49:07,070 --> 00:49:09,670 But it's just their Bohemian Rhapsody was actually a big deal 927 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:12,150 because it was Queen and it was Freddie Mercury and that movie 928 00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:14,190 was an interest production hell for a long time. 929 00:49:14,190 --> 00:49:15,430 And I remember going to see that. 930 00:49:15,590 --> 00:49:16,950 We went with a bunch of friends. It was great. 931 00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:17,830 What, you went with those, right? 932 00:49:17,870 --> 00:49:19,830 When we saw Bohemian Rhapsody, I didn't. 933 00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:21,750 Wow. I went with a huge squad of 934 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:23,310 friends and it was like going to a rock show. 935 00:49:23,310 --> 00:49:24,870 It was kind of cool. That's pretty cool. 936 00:49:25,110 --> 00:49:27,110 I like that shout the movie itself. 937 00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:30,570 Yeah, no, it's just the hype level when you head into the 938 00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:32,050 theaters like this is going to be a fun time. 939 00:49:32,410 --> 00:49:34,610 And that was kind of the start of like the music biopic 940 00:49:34,610 --> 00:49:37,730 Renaissance and this century, you know, that's a good show. 941 00:49:38,810 --> 00:49:40,890 Inception was really cool. I remember going to see that 942 00:49:40,890 --> 00:49:42,850 back in 2010. That was that was epic. 943 00:49:43,530 --> 00:49:48,530 All right, that's going to do it for episode 250 of the Drivein 944 00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:51,610 podcast Ricky Flicks. What we have coming up, we have 945 00:49:51,610 --> 00:49:55,660 the Barbenheimer double review. On Monday, make sure you're 946 00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:57,780 following the Pod wherever you prefer to listen. 947 00:49:57,980 --> 00:50:00,900 We're available in all listening platforms and we're available on 948 00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:03,380 YouTube. If you're watching on YouTube, 949 00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:06,980 make sure that you are liking commenting and you subscribe to 950 00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:08,980 the Tube. The comment will comment back. 951 00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:11,220 We want to keep talking to you. A lot of great videos on there 952 00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:12,740 if you haven't checked out our recent stuff. 953 00:50:14,060 --> 00:50:17,100 Social media at the Drivein Pod on Twitter and Instagram 954 00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:19,340 wherever you listen. Forgot to mention this? 955 00:50:19,580 --> 00:50:21,650 Rate us five stars. Please do so. 956 00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:24,810 Leave a review, right? Want to keep delivering this pod 957 00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:27,250 to as many people as possible? So if you like it, tell your 958 00:50:27,250 --> 00:50:30,930 friends, help us out, All right? That's going to do it. 959 00:50:31,610 --> 00:50:35,650 Or Ricky Flex and Dr. O. Until next time we will.