1 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Hey, everybody and welcome to this week's episode of the DVC 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,480 Show. I am Paul, your host this week, 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,040 and I'm joined at the table by my lovely wife, Amy Krieger. 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Hello, sales associate with the DVC resale market, Danny 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,480 Metzger. Hi there. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 And also sales associate with DVC resale market Linda Smith. 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,720 Hey. Everyone. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,240 And back in the production Nook. And we're not going to just keep 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,850 him quiet this week. Week The lovely Craig Williams. 10 00:00:32,170 --> 00:00:35,210 Hoy Hoy. Thank you all for joining us and 11 00:00:35,210 --> 00:00:38,170 tuning in to the DVC Show. As always, if you love the 12 00:00:38,170 --> 00:00:41,570 content that we produce here at DVC Fan, please show some love 13 00:00:41,570 --> 00:00:44,130 for our sponsors over at the World of DVC. 14 00:00:44,580 --> 00:00:47,820 DVC resale market where if you're looking to buy or sell a 15 00:00:47,820 --> 00:00:50,260 Disney Vacation Club contract they're going to be able to help 16 00:00:50,260 --> 00:00:52,220 you out. Monera Financial will be able to 17 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:56,340 help you with financing that DVC purchase and then DVC rental 18 00:00:56,340 --> 00:00:59,220 store where if you're looking to try before you buy rent some 19 00:00:59,220 --> 00:01:02,500 points for a fraction of the cost then it would be then going 20 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:05,340 direct through Disney. You can do that with us or also 21 00:01:05,340 --> 00:01:08,140 if you're a member not using all your points this year looking 22 00:01:08,140 --> 00:01:11,620 for some extra cash, you can rent out your points at as well 23 00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:14,380 at the DVC rental store so please. 24 00:01:14,580 --> 00:01:19,220 Show some love for our sponsors. This week's topic is kind of a 25 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:21,980 little bit of fun, one that I thought we could discuss, which 26 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:26,860 is is DVC for everyone. And we've already had a little 27 00:01:26,860 --> 00:01:30,740 bit of a conversation here in the room about Disney Vacation 28 00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:32,780 Club. But I I think I will. 29 00:01:32,820 --> 00:01:36,020 I will get this started with something that I mentioned a 30 00:01:36,020 --> 00:01:41,380 couple minutes ago to all of us, which is that I feel like DVC at 31 00:01:41,380 --> 00:01:44,500 some point is for everyone. It's just finding that. 32 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:48,220 The right point in in your life where it might make sense, You 33 00:01:48,220 --> 00:01:51,940 might never get to that point, but I think people maybe are too 34 00:01:51,940 --> 00:01:55,580 dismissive of it at the point in which maybe it is for them 35 00:01:56,340 --> 00:02:00,100 versus just being open to the concept of Disney Vacation Club. 36 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:03,620 Because if you are someone that loves Disney and Disney travel, 37 00:02:03,940 --> 00:02:07,820 then there's no reason why you wouldn't want to potentially 38 00:02:07,820 --> 00:02:10,900 invest in that travel over the course of your life. 39 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:14,100 Knowing that you're going to come back here again and again 40 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:18,420 and again, and I say here, but there's also multiple other 41 00:02:18,420 --> 00:02:22,580 places that you can go when it comes to Disney Vacation Club. 42 00:02:22,860 --> 00:02:26,220 And I think it's good to start with us. 43 00:02:26,220 --> 00:02:29,940 You know, when it came to Disney Vacation Club, we didn't think 44 00:02:29,940 --> 00:02:34,340 it was for us. You've got me like I feel like a 45 00:02:34,340 --> 00:02:36,780 deer in a headlights because I was not expecting you to say it 46 00:02:36,780 --> 00:02:38,820 was for everybody at some point in time. 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Because now I'm like, going to my head. 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,920 I'm like, OK, it's not for my dad. 49 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,920 It's not for, you know, but. A Disney fan a. 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Disney fan people. That come to Disney? 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,000 No, not the person. Not the person that travels to 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,240 Wyoming and vacations in Wyoming every year. 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Probably not for you. I'm sorry, but I think people 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,160 that are listening to this or that have like come to Disney 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,400 and seen a DVC booth at some point in their life and been 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,400 like like it was me. Like that. 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,880 I was that person that just sort of shrugged it off. 58 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,280 And yet here I am, years later, working and selling and all that 59 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,360 kind of fun stuff. When it comes to Disney fans, 60 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,400 people who like to go to Disney year after year after year, I 61 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,360 think Disney Vacation Club can be for a lot of them. 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,160 But I still think that there are people that it does not does not 63 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,200 fit with and those are people that. 64 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,160 Maybe. They don't really care about the 65 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,640 resort they're staying in. They don't really. 66 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:37,520 They look at their hotel as, you know, this is where I sleep at 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,960 night and as long as it's clean and safe, then then I want the 68 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,280 best deal possible because I'm spending all day in the parks. 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,760 It does not matter where I stay. And those types of people, if 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,000 they're even staying on property at all, are probably going to be 71 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,960 happier staying at like, you know, like the value resorts and 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,160 those, I don't think, I think those still kind of remain. 73 00:03:58,730 --> 00:04:03,930 Lower price than DVC, but if you are like we were and you stayed 74 00:04:03,930 --> 00:04:09,090 in moderate level resorts, you came, you know, often multiple 75 00:04:09,090 --> 00:04:12,490 times a year, or at least consistently every single year, 76 00:04:12,730 --> 00:04:16,610 then then it's definitely worth considering buying DVC. 77 00:04:16,769 --> 00:04:20,410 But I I don't think it is for every single Disney fan out 78 00:04:20,410 --> 00:04:25,330 there. I genuinely love this topic and 79 00:04:25,330 --> 00:04:27,970 I know that might seem weird because I. 80 00:04:28,810 --> 00:04:31,770 Like Paul just said, I literally sell Disney Vacation Club. 81 00:04:32,090 --> 00:04:37,810 But my favorite part about my job is that I get to genuinely 82 00:04:37,810 --> 00:04:41,330 build connections and relationships with my clients 83 00:04:41,330 --> 00:04:46,050 and my members and and be that like counselor for you, right. 84 00:04:46,050 --> 00:04:49,570 And so I love when I'm talking to a family and getting to know 85 00:04:49,570 --> 00:04:54,710 the family and you know. I could say to you it might not 86 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:58,670 be a good fit for you at this time, but I think it's all about 87 00:04:58,990 --> 00:05:03,630 why and understanding why. And again, like Paul said, just 88 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:07,510 because it's not a good fit for you right now at this point in 89 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:11,310 your life, the way that you are vacationing doesn't necessarily 90 00:05:11,310 --> 00:05:13,350 mean it's never going to be a good fit for you. 91 00:05:13,550 --> 00:05:18,070 It's just understanding why and when and so. 92 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Just to give you some examples of like someone who I would 93 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,680 literally, they would come to me ask about DVC and I would 94 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,080 literally tell them this is not for you. 95 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,600 Like kind of a jolting thing to hear from a person who literally 96 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,280 is selling you DVC. So if you are the type of family 97 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:44,560 that you come to Disney once every five or ten years, DVC is 98 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,640 not for you yet, now. Renting points might be a really 99 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,760 good option for you to get your feet wet. 100 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Or maybe this is like your first or second Disney trip ever and 101 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,560 you're like okay. I like this, but I'm not sure if 102 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,760 I'm going to do it enough. Start with DVC rental store and 103 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,640 you know, rent those points. Get your feet wet, see if it's 104 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,120 going to be something that you even like to do. 105 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,810 But. Again, DVC is not for the family 106 00:06:15,010 --> 00:06:20,930 who does not do Disney trips. So if you like every year you do 107 00:06:20,930 --> 00:06:24,890 an international trip and you, you know, have this goal to see 108 00:06:24,890 --> 00:06:28,010 all the countries in the world, it might not be a good fit for 109 00:06:28,010 --> 00:06:30,810 you right now. So that's just one of the many. 110 00:06:31,050 --> 00:06:33,650 Well, and I like the point you brought up about rental as well 111 00:06:33,650 --> 00:06:37,570 because it does make it attainable to those people to. 112 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:41,110 You're pointing me that don't care where they stay necessarily 113 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:44,590 because those people that are staying in a moderate level 114 00:06:44,590 --> 00:06:48,790 property or in some cases even a value level property, those 115 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:52,510 those prices that you're paying, it can be attainable to get a 116 00:06:52,510 --> 00:06:56,710 DVC resort on the rental market for that price. 117 00:06:56,710 --> 00:06:59,630 And so now you're staying in an even better accommodation. 118 00:07:00,390 --> 00:07:02,390 You know you don't care where you're going to stay or anything 119 00:07:02,390 --> 00:07:03,990 like that. So you're staying in that 120 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,350 property that is so much nicer now. 121 00:07:06,770 --> 00:07:09,210 And that probably gets some wheels turning when it comes to 122 00:07:09,530 --> 00:07:11,890 the product and what Disney Vacation Club is. 123 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:15,450 And I think you can't ignore the fact that I can't tell you, 124 00:07:15,730 --> 00:07:20,970 maybe Art of Animation was the last fullblown resort that 125 00:07:20,970 --> 00:07:26,490 they've built since since Disney Vacation Club has been around 126 00:07:26,690 --> 00:07:28,770 that's not had DVC associated with it. 127 00:07:28,770 --> 00:07:31,290 I know they added on the tower, the Grand Astino tower at 128 00:07:31,290 --> 00:07:35,330 Coronado, but like, for them? Even Disney itself, they're 129 00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:38,130 acknowledging that there's value in this product and so it should 130 00:07:38,130 --> 00:07:42,930 make you kind of question, huh, this DVC thing maybe, maybe is 131 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:45,090 something I should look into and not dismiss also. 132 00:07:45,490 --> 00:07:48,400 It doesn't have to be. All or nothing either. 133 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Like, I literally just got done traveling around the entire 134 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,960 world. I went to 20 different countries 135 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,200 and so was Disney every trip that I took. 136 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Of course not. So you could do a combination of 137 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,560 the two. It doesn't mean that every trip 138 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,760 you ever have to do from here on out has to be at Disney. 139 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,840 So you know when I was looking at DVC when I purchased. 140 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:16,060 It was like, is a 500 point package going to be right for me 141 00:08:16,060 --> 00:08:18,780 right now? At this point, no. 142 00:08:18,780 --> 00:08:22,140 So I started lower. I still do my international 143 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:25,260 trips, but I also get my Disney trips in there as well. 144 00:08:25,260 --> 00:08:28,300 So there are other alternatives as well. 145 00:08:28,740 --> 00:08:32,100 And I think you have to step back and really consider the 146 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:35,100 person that you're speaking to her that you know, in our case 147 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:37,419 years ago or on the ships or what have you that're sitting in 148 00:08:37,419 --> 00:08:40,940 front of us, and find out what's important to that person. 149 00:08:41,419 --> 00:08:44,179 Are they there investigating you and did they come to see you or 150 00:08:44,179 --> 00:08:47,140 did they call you up or reach out to you because they're 151 00:08:47,140 --> 00:08:49,300 curious? Did they reach out to you 152 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:52,460 because there is that family time that's very, very important 153 00:08:52,460 --> 00:08:55,100 to them. And I learned a long time ago 154 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:57,620 and I'll try and make it a quick story, is that when I was in 155 00:08:57,620 --> 00:09:00,100 Vero Beach, the grand opening team, way back when, a very 156 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:03,500 distinguished gentleman came to see me and he was considerably 157 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:05,590 older. Quite well off. 158 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:08,310 He was retired banker on Wall Street and they had a beautiful 159 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:10,710 home in Vero Beach, and he was in the resort with me. 160 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:13,150 And he came to look at Disney Vacation Club and he brought in 161 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:16,430 a pad of paper and he had a billion questions about it. 162 00:09:16,950 --> 00:09:18,630 And we sat there and we went through his questions. 163 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:20,590 And I was starting to think, you know, this is just not going to 164 00:09:20,590 --> 00:09:24,390 be probably for this gentleman, some of the questions he's 165 00:09:24,390 --> 00:09:27,190 asking me. But the more we talked together, 166 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:29,710 the more I realized what was really important to him. 167 00:09:30,450 --> 00:09:33,490 It was the family time and he said, Linda, I've got four adult 168 00:09:33,490 --> 00:09:37,410 children, I've got 11 grandkids and I can't get them all 169 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:39,770 together. I can give him money, I can give 170 00:09:39,770 --> 00:09:41,770 him money when I retire. I'm perfectly comfortable doing 171 00:09:41,770 --> 00:09:44,970 that, but they'll just go blow it on something else. 172 00:09:45,370 --> 00:09:48,570 But if I could give him a gift of a vacation and bring us 173 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:52,330 together even every so many years, to me that's what I want 174 00:09:52,330 --> 00:09:54,170 to do. So see, it wasn't him that was 175 00:09:54,170 --> 00:09:56,250 really going to use the membership the most. 176 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,240 It was the family that was going to use the membership the most. 177 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,720 And do you know, then very next year he brought 17 people down 178 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,920 for Thanksgiving and they went to Disney World. 17 people, 179 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,920 little, the youngest one was just an infant. 180 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,400 And then they came over to Vera Beach and finished off the 181 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,320 vacation and they had the beach cottage. 182 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,680 And when the wife was let in because she wanted to cook the 183 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:18,440 Turkey, that was her family tradition. 184 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,760 So I think the value of Disney Vacation Club has many different 185 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,660 meanings to different people. You can be a Disney person and 186 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:29,940 do nothing to go to the parks. You can be somebody like me that 187 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:33,180 bought in that used it but love to go skiing in Colorado with 188 00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:34,940 it. That was very important to me. 189 00:10:34,940 --> 00:10:37,500 You went around the world. You could probably sit down and 190 00:10:37,660 --> 00:10:39,700 check off a couple of those countries you could use your 191 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:42,780 points at. So I think, I think, you know, 192 00:10:42,780 --> 00:10:46,420 I'm being honest now. I've only told one person in all 193 00:10:46,420 --> 00:10:49,860 my years this is not for you, and they didn't take it very 194 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:52,050 well. That was like my first couple 195 00:10:52,050 --> 00:10:53,650 years I saw. They don't like to hear. 196 00:10:53,930 --> 00:10:55,530 They're like, why would you tell us that? 197 00:10:55,810 --> 00:10:58,370 And I said, well, just kind of the questions and answers that 198 00:10:58,370 --> 00:11:00,050 are going through. And do you know that in six 199 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:02,450 months later, they called back and they did buy, they bought a 200 00:11:02,450 --> 00:11:05,770 small package to try it out. So there's going to be, and 201 00:11:05,770 --> 00:11:09,130 there's nothing wrong with those people that come and look at it. 202 00:11:09,130 --> 00:11:10,930 They're curious. They would get all the facts. 203 00:11:10,930 --> 00:11:14,210 You've spent the time, you've done your job and for whatever 204 00:11:14,210 --> 00:11:16,770 reason they make that decision. But you know what? 205 00:11:17,130 --> 00:11:19,570 That's fine because they may go tell their friends. 206 00:11:20,050 --> 00:11:23,050 Or someone in their family. I think this might be for you. 207 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:25,810 Here's Linda's card. Who's Danny's card? 208 00:11:26,370 --> 00:11:29,450 Want to reach out to them? You know, you never know how 209 00:11:29,450 --> 00:11:32,330 it's going to touch people. You you brought something up 210 00:11:32,330 --> 00:11:36,730 that kind of triggered a thought, and you know who DVC is 211 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:42,010 for who They think that it's not for workaholics. 212 00:11:42,730 --> 00:11:44,410 Oh yeah, you. Know those people? 213 00:11:44,530 --> 00:11:47,210 They're just like, I haven't taken a vacation in 10 years, 214 00:11:47,210 --> 00:11:49,570 but you know, we used to get it on the cruise all the time. 215 00:11:49,570 --> 00:11:52,490 I'm here with my family. I've never my kids, have never 216 00:11:52,490 --> 00:11:55,410 told me they've loved me so many times in my life because this is 217 00:11:55,410 --> 00:11:59,370 the first vacation that I have taken with them in X amount of 218 00:11:59,370 --> 00:12:01,610 years. And it's like, so they think, 219 00:12:01,610 --> 00:12:05,770 you know, I don't vacation, so DVC isn't for me, but DVC is 220 00:12:05,770 --> 00:12:09,000 going to make you take. That vacation. 221 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 So that's someone who you know, I think a lot of times would 222 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,960 think that it isn't for them. But we're like, OK, we need to 223 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,000 have a therapy session. Right now. 224 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,800 We're going to have some hard truths. 225 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,120 We're going to we're going to have some some hard 226 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,240 conversations right now and and just remember at the end of the 227 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,840 day, like if it really is not for you, if you call up any DVC 228 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,560 resale market guides, we don't want you to have this if it's 229 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:36,920 not a good fit for you. Because guess what? 230 00:12:37,290 --> 00:12:40,650 You're going to be, you know, online like they sold me this 231 00:12:40,650 --> 00:12:44,370 thing and I never use it. We're we're going to be very 232 00:12:44,370 --> 00:12:47,290 transparent and very honest with you and get to know you and your 233 00:12:47,290 --> 00:12:50,810 family and your lifestyle and and see if it's a good fit for 234 00:12:50,810 --> 00:12:52,010 you. And you know what? 235 00:12:52,010 --> 00:12:54,930 There's three things that we hear from members all the time. 236 00:12:55,970 --> 00:12:59,290 We wish we had bought sooner. We wished we had bought more 237 00:12:59,290 --> 00:13:01,970 points. Best thing we ever did. 238 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:07,300 And worst case scenario. If it's not the best thing you 239 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:11,140 ever did, just call us back. We'll sell it for you or you can 240 00:13:11,140 --> 00:13:13,540 rent out your points if, you know, I think that's a big 241 00:13:13,540 --> 00:13:16,660 concern for a lot of people too, is like, what if there's a year 242 00:13:16,660 --> 00:13:19,620 that I don't want to do Disney or there's always those, like 243 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:24,140 it's like 4 years where the kids go to college and and they don't 244 00:13:24,140 --> 00:13:26,980 want to hang out with, you know, the the family. 245 00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:29,020 And it's like what do we do in those four years? 246 00:13:29,260 --> 00:13:30,940 There are other alternatives to it. 247 00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:33,660 So I think it's really important to explore that, you know? 248 00:13:33,970 --> 00:13:35,610 You have banking and borrowing your points. 249 00:13:35,610 --> 00:13:37,610 So if you're not going to use the points one year, you can 250 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:41,050 bank them into the next year, do something huge the next year Or 251 00:13:41,050 --> 00:13:44,610 if there is that gap, that four year gap or whatever, or you 252 00:13:44,610 --> 00:13:47,250 want to take an international trip that you wouldn't typically 253 00:13:47,250 --> 00:13:51,250 take, just rent your points out and then that'll cover your dues 254 00:13:51,250 --> 00:13:54,540 for the year plus some. One of the reasons I was most 255 00:13:54,540 --> 00:13:58,220 excited for this topic is I think if there's been one person 256 00:13:58,220 --> 00:14:01,340 in the four years that I've known him who has not expressed 257 00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:05,180 much interest in DVC, he is in this room today and that would 258 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:08,460 be Mr. Craig Williams. So I thought it'd be fun to have 259 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:10,860 Craig chime in on this topic a little bit. 260 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:14,220 And Craig, I think we'll just start a little bit with just, 261 00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:18,260 you know, what has, what is your overall impression of DVC and 262 00:14:18,260 --> 00:14:21,140 why has it been something that you've not been that interested 263 00:14:21,140 --> 00:14:22,820 in? I OK. 264 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:25,900 First things first, we have to make very clear. 265 00:14:25,900 --> 00:14:32,060 I have a very strange job that sees me put up into hotel rooms 266 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:36,020 a lot of my, you know, lot of the time for absolutely no cost 267 00:14:36,020 --> 00:14:37,620 at all because it's because of work. 268 00:14:38,420 --> 00:14:41,940 On top of that, to media events where I'm given hotel rooms to 269 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:47,580 stay on property, so I stay on Disney property quite a bit it. 270 00:14:48,270 --> 00:14:54,070 Is 100% my work and do I want to then invest in a place that 271 00:14:54,070 --> 00:14:57,830 brings me that I mostly associate with work anymore? 272 00:14:58,110 --> 00:15:01,670 Not really. I still find special moments 273 00:15:01,670 --> 00:15:03,790 with Disney and I love Walt Disney World. 274 00:15:04,430 --> 00:15:06,670 I, you know, I cannot get enough of it. 275 00:15:06,670 --> 00:15:08,150 That's why I continue to do this. 276 00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:12,870 But I when I'm planning trips involved with Disney, it's on 277 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:15,830 Disney Cruise Line and it's to Disneyland and. 278 00:15:16,420 --> 00:15:20,140 We do know the challenges of DVC and Disneyland. 279 00:15:20,140 --> 00:15:22,900 Y'all talk about that enough. I know it'll probably get easier 280 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:29,020 with the new tower at Disneyland Hotel, but you know, I I thought 281 00:15:29,020 --> 00:15:31,940 maybe I could get involved with DVC because of that. 282 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:35,940 But then I kind of backed off on that and I said the same thing 283 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:39,100 again with the cabins at Fort Wilderness because that's the 284 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:42,500 only place on property that I ever like doing. 285 00:15:43,100 --> 00:15:48,900 Staycations at it For my family, we have a dog that has seizures, 286 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:51,020 that needs medication a lot of the day. 287 00:15:51,020 --> 00:15:54,020 So it's not as easy as just like, oh, we'll stick them in 288 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:57,940 the kennel for the weekend and go away because we know that, 289 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:00,340 you know, something bad happens in the middle of the night. 290 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:06,980 We're we're missing out on that. So we literally need to have. 291 00:16:09,190 --> 00:16:10,790 Someone's vacuuming outside, I believe. 292 00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:15,190 So we need to like we have to have everything in place so we 293 00:16:15,190 --> 00:16:17,390 can actually vacation the way we want to. 294 00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:20,070 You know, my family has to be taking care of everything. 295 00:16:20,070 --> 00:16:24,150 Now we have the new addition of a child in our family that makes 296 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:29,190 life even more stressful. So staycations are something 297 00:16:29,190 --> 00:16:32,070 that we rarely, rarely, rarely ever got to do. 298 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:35,270 And it's it's something that we we still don't. 299 00:16:35,730 --> 00:16:38,290 And I don't think we'll ever be able to do in the future. 300 00:16:38,290 --> 00:16:42,650 And then also to trying not to lose my train of thought with 301 00:16:42,650 --> 00:16:44,890 it, like talk about disconnecting. 302 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:48,410 Unfortunately when you work for Pete Werner, that is not an 303 00:16:48,410 --> 00:16:51,690 option and you are not allowed to do that unless you are on a 304 00:16:51,690 --> 00:16:56,170 cruise. And so for me, a cruise is still 305 00:16:56,490 --> 00:17:00,170 the best way that I can go on and be like, oops, I didn't buy 306 00:17:00,170 --> 00:17:02,130 the Internet package. I'm so sorry, I. 307 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:06,300 I actually can't be on my phone for that long because if I have 308 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:08,819 a cell phone connection, I'm expected to check in. 309 00:17:08,819 --> 00:17:15,339 So I'm in a very unique circumstance in terms of how I I 310 00:17:15,339 --> 00:17:17,380 see Disney. And then beyond that too, I I 311 00:17:17,380 --> 00:17:21,140 shared with the group earlier that I'm I'm really starting to 312 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:25,060 move on like with how I'm traveling when I do get time to 313 00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:28,500 travel with trying to hit national parks and. 314 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,880 I am sometimes very, very thrifty with the deals I'm 315 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,040 looking for with hotels and how to really stretch the dollar. 316 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,720 And so when I add up everything, DVC just isn't something for me. 317 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,600 Maybe one day if grandkids are ever in the picture and do hear 318 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,160 that story of you want to get all the family together, maybe 319 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,000 go at it from that direction, but that's that's. 320 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:56,460 Long into my future, right? Now, yeah, it's, I mean it makes 321 00:17:56,460 --> 00:17:59,620 perfect sense as to why it's not, it's it's not beneficial to 322 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:01,900 you now, you know, like you said, you know you're at Disney 323 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:05,300 always, you know, you're put up in rooms to review these rooms 324 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:07,220 and stuff like that. It's just not something that 325 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:09,100 makes sense to spend your own money on. 326 00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:12,580 But as you ended with, you know, who knows what the future brings 327 00:18:12,580 --> 00:18:13,820 you? Are you in Florida? 328 00:18:13,820 --> 00:18:16,300 Are you working related to the travel industry? 329 00:18:16,580 --> 00:18:18,860 You know what? What does that future mean? 330 00:18:19,210 --> 00:18:22,130 And what does Disney then mean or what does Disney Vacation 331 00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:24,930 Club mean to you At that point, Amy and I are kind of in the 332 00:18:24,930 --> 00:18:28,370 same boat as as you mentioned, which is that with our vacation, 333 00:18:28,570 --> 00:18:31,850 it's not that we don't still disconnect with DVCI still think 334 00:18:31,850 --> 00:18:33,810 we do. I still love more than anything 335 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:37,650 like taking a long weekend and doing that at at a Disney 336 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:41,650 Vacation Club property because for me some of my work gets I I 337 00:18:41,650 --> 00:18:43,610 get inspired to do some of it there. 338 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:46,530 So you you always find inspiration when you're like. 339 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,120 In the bubble kind of and that kind of stuff. 340 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:53,720 But for that full disconnect, we just did an Alaskan cruise with 341 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Royal Caribbean and now Amy has this dream of us becoming 342 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,920 Diamond Platinum plus members of the Royal Caribbean, I mean you. 343 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,320 Get free drink vouchers. What else do you want? 344 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,320 There's no other reason to spend thousands, about thousands of 345 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,720 dollars on cruises, but it's the same sort of thing, You know, 346 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,240 it's we want to see more of the world we want to see. 347 00:19:13,810 --> 00:19:17,090 Other things I mean, I know too, you choose where you want to buy 348 00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:21,170 into DVC and it's a lot easier when you do it resale and you 349 00:19:21,170 --> 00:19:23,850 can find the contract that's at the right price for everything 350 00:19:23,850 --> 00:19:24,970 that you want at the right resort. 351 00:19:24,970 --> 00:19:30,890 But I also don't like a lot of the DVC resort properties like I 352 00:19:31,330 --> 00:19:34,010 I don't like Bay Lake Tower. There is nothing about it 353 00:19:34,010 --> 00:19:36,990 besides top of the world. There is nothing about it until 354 00:19:36,990 --> 00:19:40,630 they completely remodel that entire thing that I will never 355 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:42,990 like it. Old Key West is my least 356 00:19:42,990 --> 00:19:46,790 favorite part of Walt Disney World property, and I know that 357 00:19:46,790 --> 00:19:48,510 always gets me into a lot of trouble. 358 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:55,230 Old Key West reminds me of the very first apartment condo that 359 00:19:55,270 --> 00:20:00,030 I lived in all the way off of 27 in Davenport because it has the 360 00:20:00,030 --> 00:20:03,070 exact same color scheme and looks almost the exact same from 361 00:20:03,070 --> 00:20:06,670 the outside. Yeah, and it's just it brings me 362 00:20:06,750 --> 00:20:09,550 nightmares of being my absolute poorest. 363 00:20:09,790 --> 00:20:11,790 And I thought you were just going to say you were a bad 364 00:20:11,790 --> 00:20:15,950 golfer. No, no, I am a bad golfer too. 365 00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:19,590 But yeah, so like, I don't like that Saratoga just doesn't vibe 366 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:21,630 with me. Of course I love everything at 367 00:20:21,630 --> 00:20:23,830 Wilderness Lodge. Polynesian. 368 00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:26,710 I've been lucky enough to stay in the DVC side multiple times 369 00:20:26,750 --> 00:20:29,990 and always enjoy it. Animal Kingdom Lodge, without a 370 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:31,910 doubt. So there's there's ones that can 371 00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:34,110 get me, but then you stick me in like a. 372 00:20:34,270 --> 00:20:37,110 Viera and I'm like, I don't understand what people are 373 00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:41,230 seeing in this property because I hate it so much. 374 00:20:41,910 --> 00:20:45,030 Now, you mentioned earlier the new cabin edition at Fort 375 00:20:45,030 --> 00:20:46,950 Wilderness being something that's appealing to you. 376 00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:49,710 What just sort of made that more interesting? 377 00:20:50,430 --> 00:20:53,550 Because it is. I I hate saying that Fort 378 00:20:53,550 --> 00:20:57,310 Wilderness isn't like being in Florida because Orlando also 379 00:20:57,310 --> 00:21:00,270 isn't like being in Florida. You know, once you get far 380 00:21:00,270 --> 00:21:03,630 enough north or South or any direction, Florida all of a 381 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:09,350 sudden has a very unique wildlife and in just nature. 382 00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:12,870 And so actually Fort Wilderness is doing a good job of capturing 383 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:17,150 what Florida is like outside of the Disney bubble in a way and. 384 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,400 I I love the cabin aesthetic. I I love that you know you're 385 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,520 right next to all your neighbors, but you also don't 386 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,040 feel like you're on top of each other. 387 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,160 You know everyone can be sitting out on their patios, having a 388 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,920 cookout without feeling like you're encroaching on each 389 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,640 other. And I know obviously riding 390 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,600 around on golf carts around that property is always fun. 391 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:44,960 So it in it it in its of itself is just a great place to stay 392 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,950 and. Yeah with with DVC coming in and 393 00:21:47,950 --> 00:21:52,510 refreshing that's the one thing that could like truly sell me on 394 00:21:52,510 --> 00:21:55,710 it because the cabins, as much as I love them they've also been 395 00:21:55,710 --> 00:21:59,030 very dated since the last refurb they went through. 396 00:21:59,350 --> 00:22:03,070 It's we live in a time period where we don't want things dark 397 00:22:03,550 --> 00:22:07,390 and I don't want to say damp in that way too but that's kind of 398 00:22:07,390 --> 00:22:11,790 how it is they they don't allow a lot of natural light and and 399 00:22:11,790 --> 00:22:14,850 it's just not the most. It's it's a cabin experience, 400 00:22:14,850 --> 00:22:17,930 but it's not the most pleasant. Add in some natural light, like 401 00:22:17,930 --> 00:22:21,570 really make the interior something special. 402 00:22:21,570 --> 00:22:23,370 Add more Disney touches in there. 403 00:22:23,890 --> 00:22:27,730 All of a sudden you could have like a you could have a premier 404 00:22:27,930 --> 00:22:31,610 property on hand. And that's something I will if I 405 00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:34,410 love it enough, I will go out of my way to say no. 406 00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:38,530 I do want to stay here for a couple nights each year and make 407 00:22:38,530 --> 00:22:41,210 that my time where I say no, I'm cutting off Pete. 408 00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:43,870 Don't, please don't call me. Don't call me. 409 00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:46,070 Throw, throw the phone in the lake and go. 410 00:22:46,190 --> 00:22:47,710 I don't know what happened. I was on I. 411 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:49,910 Was. How did I get into airplane mode 412 00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:52,390 for all those? Days, I don't know how to use 413 00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:53,830 this new phone or something like that. 414 00:22:54,430 --> 00:22:57,590 And and to that point about Fort Wilderness that you made about 415 00:22:57,590 --> 00:23:02,150 sort of escaping Florida a little bit, that's something 416 00:23:02,150 --> 00:23:05,150 that Amy and I have said since we moved down here and I know 417 00:23:05,150 --> 00:23:07,550 that we're kind of from the same neck of the woods almost, is 418 00:23:07,550 --> 00:23:09,790 that we didn't really appreciate, I think Fort 419 00:23:09,790 --> 00:23:12,960 Wilderness. Or Wilderness Lodge as much as 420 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,880 we do now that we are Floridians because it it does, even though 421 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,440 it's Pacific Northwest, it's still pine trees. 422 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,760 It kind of gives that feel of home for us, which which makes 423 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,400 me want to go back there. And so it's definitely ever 424 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,600 since we moved, you know, Copper Creek, Boulder Ridge, Fort 425 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,160 Wilderness, all of that has moved significantly up in our 426 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,440 interest list. Because it does give us those 427 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,160 memories at home. It's the idea that you could 428 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,240 walk out into trees and you know you only have to worry about 429 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,120 deer, maybe like rattlesnakes. Every now and then. 430 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,200 It's in Florida that's completely different. 431 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,360 It's like 100 different ways you can die just by walking into a 432 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:55,040 wooded area. If if you are really savvy too 433 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,520 and and you are one of those people you know, you were kind 434 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,720 of saying that you like you like the challenge of like finding a 435 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,800 really good deal, I would encourage you also to start. 436 00:24:04,190 --> 00:24:06,630 Like if you do want to get your feet wet, start with a really 437 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:08,470 small point package like A50 pointer. 438 00:24:08,790 --> 00:24:11,750 You obviously can't do that if you're buying direct, but if you 439 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:14,350 buy resell, you could start with a really small point package. 440 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:18,110 You could do just like a few nights here and there at Disney 441 00:24:18,110 --> 00:24:20,870 or bank and borrow your points and do like a whole week. 442 00:24:21,740 --> 00:24:25,940 But I'd be really interested to see like what kind of trips you 443 00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:28,860 make out of that small point package and then if it's a good 444 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:32,380 fit for you, great you add on, you know when it's right for 445 00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:34,300 your life and if not, you sell it. 446 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:38,060 And those small point packages sell really quickly, I mean 447 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:41,660 within hours most of the time. True. 448 00:24:41,860 --> 00:24:44,780 And you know, it's interesting. Sometimes people also it's very 449 00:24:44,780 --> 00:24:47,380 smart, you know, from a financial standpoint to buy that 450 00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:49,620 small point package because that's what you can afford. 451 00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:53,030 And I would much rather see a young couple buy A50 or a 70 452 00:24:53,030 --> 00:24:56,310 point package than not buy at all and continue to rent and 453 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:58,950 pull money out of pocket or put the vacation on the credit card 454 00:24:59,230 --> 00:25:00,950 and it takes them a long time to pay it off. 455 00:25:01,230 --> 00:25:02,510 Put that money, you're going to stay anyway. 456 00:25:02,510 --> 00:25:05,670 Buy that small package because you'd be amazed how many times 457 00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:06,950 over the years people let out on Okay. 458 00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:09,670 I'm going to buy another 50 now I can afford another hundred. 459 00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:13,790 And now it goes up and goes up. But to the topic of the day, I 460 00:25:13,790 --> 00:25:15,870 think you know Disney Vacation Club. 461 00:25:16,030 --> 00:25:18,830 Who it belongs to depends on the person. 462 00:25:19,370 --> 00:25:23,050 And where they're at. And life changes, life changes. 463 00:25:23,210 --> 00:25:25,730 Where you can do things when you're much longer, younger from 464 00:25:25,730 --> 00:25:28,850 a financial standpoint and get away from work and jobs and all 465 00:25:28,850 --> 00:25:32,330 that is different than that person I was describing that 466 00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:35,490 came in not to buy for himself, but buying for the kids and the 467 00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:38,610 grandkids and what we always call the family legacy. 468 00:25:38,850 --> 00:25:42,370 And if you talk to anyone who has like 1000 points now, I mean 469 00:25:42,370 --> 00:25:45,130 like look at Pete like he didn't start with the number of points 470 00:25:45,130 --> 00:25:48,090 that he has now your life is going to change and so. 471 00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:50,620 Like, you know, don't get so caught up. 472 00:25:50,620 --> 00:25:53,060 I think that's one thing that a lot of people do is they'll look 473 00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:56,140 at that point package and or that point chart I should say. 474 00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:59,980 And you you do, you start dreaming and you start planning 475 00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:02,940 and you're like, Oh well, if I had 200 points, I could do this 476 00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:06,700 or I could do this, but and so you're like, OK, I need 400 477 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:08,260 points. It's like you don't have to 478 00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:12,680 start there, just get. In Even if it's fifty points, 479 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,240 like get in, see how your family is going to use it, see how 480 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,440 creative you can get with those points. 481 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,600 I mean, you'd be surprised how far a 50 point contract can take 482 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,280 you. Like you can get super creative 483 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,720 with it, but just like get started, you don't have to start 484 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,720 with an astronomical amount of points. 485 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,840 That's the cool thing about BBC. And it increases your quality of 486 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,320 life. I mean, my gosh, look at, you 487 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,600 know, 50 points. I believe it's nine points a 488 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,960 night. And John O House. 489 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,240 Yeah, in a value studio, I just wish they'd call it John by the 490 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,840 studio that makes more more sense to me. 491 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,040 But nine points a night, 50 points in a room that's worth 492 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,520 rack rate about $600 a night before room tax at 12, 1/2, 493 00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:00,240 exactly so. You could do a week in Aulani 494 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,560 with 50 points, Like that's mind blowing. 495 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,960 But if you're creative enough and you, you know you're not 496 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,290 going to. Go to Alani every single year. 497 00:27:09,290 --> 00:27:14,450 But if you're creative enough, you can do a Hawaii dream 498 00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:18,050 vacation at Alani with A50 point package. 499 00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:20,250 Yeah. So I think, I think the bottom 500 00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:23,490 line is if you want to go to Disney, then then you should 501 00:27:23,490 --> 00:27:25,890 definitely look at Disney Vacation Club, right? 502 00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:29,810 It's definitely for the Disney fan that wants to go to Disney, 503 00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:32,730 that wants to stay at Alani, Walt Disney World, Disneyland, 504 00:27:32,730 --> 00:27:35,970 where you know, wherever, but if you're not going to Disney. 505 00:27:36,490 --> 00:27:39,610 Disney Vacation Club is most valuable being used at Disney 506 00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:43,250 Vacation Club resorts. So if you're not going right to 507 00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:45,290 those Disney Vacation Club resorts, then you might want to 508 00:27:45,290 --> 00:27:47,450 start thinking if CBC is for you. 509 00:27:47,610 --> 00:27:50,650 Yeah, and I think the real, the real thing I wanted to bring 510 00:27:50,650 --> 00:27:54,170 home with this topic was to really get the wheels spinning 511 00:27:54,170 --> 00:27:57,090 with those people that just dismissed Disney Vacation Club 512 00:27:57,770 --> 00:28:01,770 before they ever even think about it, before they ever even 513 00:28:01,770 --> 00:28:05,050 think about what it means. Not necessarily to them, but 514 00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:08,280 Linda, to your point. To maybe their spouse, to maybe 515 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,680 their kids, Craig, to your point, to grandkids potentially 516 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,920 down the road, you don't know where life will take you. 517 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:21,360 So you know, thinking about the product in that more futuristic 518 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,800 realm potentially, I think that. I I kind of double down on what 519 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,960 I say it is for anyone that is within this Disney space and 520 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,480 loves doing Disney or has family members that love doing Disney, 521 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,280 loves being a part of Disney. I think that there is a time and 522 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,480 place where it is for everyone. It's just whether or not that 523 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,320 aligns with when you're potentially looking at at at 524 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,480 purchasing that. And when you want variety too, 525 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,880 because you know Disney's very, very important. 526 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,040 It was founded by Walt Disney World. 527 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,000 This was, I think, Walt Disney's dream. 528 00:28:51,490 --> 00:28:54,290 That he didn't get to see for families to be able to stay in 529 00:28:54,290 --> 00:28:56,770 homes in Disney. He didn't get to see that. 530 00:28:57,050 --> 00:29:00,890 And that's what Disney Vacation Club has created and evolved and 531 00:29:00,890 --> 00:29:04,450 saved all this money. But don't forget those 3200 532 00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:07,170 other places that become deportant to people like me, the 533 00:29:07,170 --> 00:29:09,760 ski vacations. That I'll tell you what, you 534 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,040 could go to Colorado and ski peak week in a one bedroom for 535 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,680 150 or 100. It's either 150 or 160 vacation 536 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,440 points. You can't go stay in a one 537 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,520 bedroom at Disney for peak week for 150. 538 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,480 That's peak. That's like, that's New Year's. 539 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,400 That is the best time, busiest time, so don't when you get 540 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240 tired of the theme park idea, just know that there's other 541 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,040 life for you. There's that castle in Ireland, 542 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600 you can go do so. It goes on and on. 543 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,740 I think another. Person type of people, group of 544 00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:45,620 people, I should say, who I I I talked to them a lot, maybe 545 00:29:45,980 --> 00:29:49,500 initially think that DVC isn't for them, and then actually end 546 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:53,220 up joining our cast members because you know, you get that 547 00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:56,300 cast discount. So you think, what do I need DVC 548 00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:58,380 for? I get this cast discount to stay 549 00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:01,580 and all of the properties, but anyone who's been a cast member 550 00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:05,100 for a long time also knows that you have that inflation piece. 551 00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,740 And so I get cast members all the time that will. 552 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:09,740 End up buying. And they're like, I really 553 00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:11,260 should have done this a long time ago. 554 00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:15,020 If I, if I would have known that even with my cast discount, it 555 00:30:15,020 --> 00:30:18,980 was going to be hundreds of dollars to stay at any of these, 556 00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:22,500 you know, Disney properties, I would have done it a lot sooner. 557 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,020 So I thought that was interesting as well. 558 00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:30,690 DVC is for everyone. Come, come full circle. 559 00:30:31,770 --> 00:30:33,050 All right. I think that was great. 560 00:30:33,410 --> 00:30:36,730 Thank you, Craig, for sort of chiming in this week on the on 561 00:30:36,730 --> 00:30:39,770 the show. So I greatly appreciate that and 562 00:30:39,770 --> 00:30:42,850 I hope you all enjoyed it and we will see you all with next 563 00:30:42,850 --> 00:30:43,810 week's DBC show.