1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,000 I loved this question that randomly well, there's there's a 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,320 lot to unpack here Randomly at like 8:00 to 9:00 in the 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,680 morning, I was I found myself sitting at a table in a three 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,200 bedroom Granville at Boardwalk Villas across from Jeff Hasman. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,640 And his question to me was tell me something I don't know about 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,160 you. And I thought that was a great 7 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:26,120 question. And so I am going to ask Panda 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,440 today. Panda, tell me something I don't 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,759 know about you. I got to think, I mean, you 10 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:34,400 know, I did TV commercials as a kid. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,040 I'm just thinking of something that's weird that. 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,400 You might have, I didn't. Know that Amy did. 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,040 Not OK, That's so. That's good. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,720 OK, so there's a Mead Traffic Keeper notebook commercial. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,600 It's on YouTube. That's pretty popular. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,080 For real. If you go to YouTube, hold on. 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Oh my God. So they're asking where your 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,240 homework is and I come on with this shot, take my brother's 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,120 holding it for ransom, $35,000. I get paid for that. 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,440 What? And we were and we were on 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,280 welfare, so that was a great payday at the Wow. 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,040 So I need to get we all need to get into commercials. 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,600 That's all I heard like. But listen, I auditioned for 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,160 like 10 of them, you know, and I got and and they, you know, it 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,320 was a chubby Italian. They didn't ask for that for 26 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:26,120 these commercials, but that's what I always obviously went 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,720 for. You know, that was my thing. 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,800 And a lot of times I didn't fit the with the bill. 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,600 But for this traffic keeper notebook, they were just like, 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,400 yeah, this is great. We're going to take this guy. 31 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:35,680 This is not the last time we're going to ask. 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,920 This question like I could watch it at. 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,800 I will, I will. I also. 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,360 Hey everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of The DVC 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,400 Show. I'm your host, Paul Krieger, and 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,040 I'm joined this week, as always, by my lovely wife, Amy Krieger. 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Hello, the man on the spaceship to Pluto, John Sakaryak, a big 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,160 fat panda. Welcome home peoples. 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,520 We've got Jeff Haslam in the house with us, as always. 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,400 Looking for him. I don't see him. 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,120 And the one the only the Derek de Boer BBC recent market. 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,680 I know I'm just upset 'cause I, I thought I was going to go say, 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,600 so that was going to be my joke was doing all this and now all 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,840 of a sudden you're cutting to Jeff's second. 45 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:25,760 So he just stole my joke. So never. 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,960 That's 'cause you, you've, you've derailed me so many 47 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,040 times, like at that point that I just, I can't recover from it. 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,440 And I just want to start this week's show, you know? 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,640 Thank you all for watching and and listening. 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,440 We've we started doing these like cold opens to this show 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,560 probably several months ago at this point. 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,960 Like legit, these guys don't have any clue what I'm going to 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,040 ask. And and in between shows. 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,960 I just went to the restroom and I didn't know what I was going 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,840 to ask for this show, but it came to mind Jeff's question to 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,840 me the other day. And how perfect does that end 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,200 like? That is a good question. 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,120 It it's a great question, but I think it just, it points to our 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,120 friendship. It points to just how how much 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,680 fun we have together in all of these and how that segues 61 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,440 perfectly. Trapper Keeper homework teacher 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,840 students, because that is this week's episode of the DVC show. 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,120 I can't write this stuff. It's absolutely. 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,360 Tread, it was in, it was in a school. 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,360 Wow. OK, Yeah. 66 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,200 There you go and that is what this weeks episode is all about. 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,080 We are talking about some lesser known Disney Vacation Club roles 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,960 and our our teacher in the house today, the one the only Amy 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Krieger wrote two amazing articles for DVC fan on this 70 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,880 topic. And so we were joking at the 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,800 beginning of the show. Why don't we just let the show 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,560 run as Amy's our teacher and she's going to teach us these 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600 rules and we will raise our hands and ask questions as we 74 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,240 learn things or as we just want to cause chaos. 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,720 And you you've missed teaching for so many years now. 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,120 OK, I don't I don't know how in depth I should go on camera, but 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,760 so. So I taught in public schools 78 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:15,240 for 11 years, 7th grade English and yeah. 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:22,240 And, and then I, I left teaching to move to Florida with my 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,440 lovely husband. And now I work for Monera. 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,960 And that was like, what, three years ago? 82 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,680 I feel like it's been been a while. 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,320 So a lot of people don't realize, like when you're a 84 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,960 teacher, you are like creating your own content, creating your 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,040 own lessons and, and you're planning everything out. 86 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,040 And, and you cannot, especially when you're working with middle 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,600 school kids, like you cannot let a second of like your 88 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,840 transitions have to be smooth or they lose focus. 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,400 And so like that's your worst nightmare is like being in front 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,520 of kids and not knowing what you're doing. 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,200 So for some reason, I have not been a teacher for three years 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,880 now. The last couple of months I told 93 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Paul this. I was like, I keep having this 94 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,080 dream that I'm back in my old classroom and I'm in front of 95 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,560 all these kids and I don't know what I'm doing and I'm supposed 96 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,800 to be teaching them and I have no clue what I'm doing. 97 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,000 And it's happened like four Times Now. 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,640 I've had this dream. I don't know what that means. 99 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:21,040 That's what you it's just, it's just something that gives you 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,400 anxiety and it's gonna come up. Until this is that dream 101 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,200 realized. And so when you said we should 102 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,840 do the show like you're the teacher and we're gonna like 103 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,600 Heckle you, it's like I'm like deer in the headlights like I 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,400 this, this is a dream. It's coming back. 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,160 It's like real life now. Derek had his hand up. 106 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,480 Do you want to call on him or do you want me? 107 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,600 To I was just gonna ask Miss Missus Krieger, can I go to the 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,640 restroom now? I wish I could blow a spit wad 109 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,800 at my. Camera. 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Wow. Wow. 111 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,880 Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have a nightmare tonight. 112 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,120 I'm just. I just know it. 113 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,760 But anyhow, yes, this week's episode is all about there's a 114 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,440 lot of subtle rules when it comes to being a Disney Vacation 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Club member. And. 116 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,640 And unless you are like us and you've spent hours upon hours 117 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:13,280 reading 215 page odd pages of offering statements and all of 118 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:16,400 the wonderful stuff that gets filed when you have to file a 119 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,120 timeshare in the state of Florida. 120 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,600 Unless in your spare time, you like to read that like we do, 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,520 then you probably don't know about some of it, but some of it 122 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,400 is very interesting and there are some unique rules that are 123 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,600 out there as it comes to Disney Vacation Club. 124 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,320 So we said, you know, why not cover them? 125 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,840 Amy's going to kind of talk about them and we're going to 126 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:38,720 learn what we can throughout the show. 127 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,680 But before we get to that, as always, if you love our content 128 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,840 here on DVC Fan, if you love this rowdy group of individuals, 129 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,600 we would not be able to sit here and do this without the love and 130 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:58,440 support of our sponsors over at world of DVCDVC resale market. 131 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,000 If you're looking to buy or sell a Disney Vacation Club contract, 132 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,880 they can assist you in the process. 133 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,720 Monera Financial can help you in financing that DVC resale 134 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,520 contract purchase and the DVC rental store where you can try 135 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,880 before you buy, rent some points or rent out your own points. 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,440 So please show some love to those amazing companies. 137 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,200 But all right, I'm, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna call her 138 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Mrs. Krieger, or else I'll get in trouble later. 139 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,560 But I haven't heard that for a long time. 140 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Yeah. No, just just what you said This 141 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,800 these are things and and when I when I wrote the first article 142 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,400 at the end, I kind of was like, you know, this might interest 143 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,520 you or you might have been bored out of your gourd, you know, I 144 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,320 don't know. And I literally use those words. 145 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,520 But these are things that I just find so interesting and, you 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,160 know, because then things happen like during during the pandemic 147 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,640 where they changed the borrowing roles and then everyone's like, 148 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,040 well, you can't do that. Why are you doing that? 149 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,360 And well, yeah, they can, you know, and this is actually what 150 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,960 used to be and this is the roles. 151 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,040 And and so those are kind of things I just think are 152 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,040 interesting to share, you know, with with our audience. 153 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,760 So I figured I'd just we'd just get into it and and we can we 154 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,680 can talk about it and maybe what it means. 155 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,920 And if you have any questions. And Paul just took the screen I 156 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,800 was looking at. So Nope, go ahead. 157 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,840 So, so the first one I thought was really interesting is that 158 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,680 the home resort booking window can change. 159 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,280 So right now, you know, everybody knows 11 months out if 160 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,960 you own that resort, you can book there and then everyone 161 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,039 else who has eligible points, but not owning that resort has 162 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:39,240 to wait until seven months out. And that is something that can 163 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:45,400 actually be changed by DVC. So in the home resort rules and 164 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,840 regulations, it actually says they they always say the DVC 165 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,920 operator can increase or decrease the length of the home 166 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,120 resort period. However, it has to be at least 167 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,320 one month. So they really only have to give 168 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,520 owners one month of booking window before they open it up to 169 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,560 everybody else. So I thought that that was 170 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:08,560 really interesting. One thing that they do use when 171 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:13,040 it comes to this rule is that during the initial opening of 172 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,680 each DVC resort, they also are allowed to modify the 173 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:19,200 reservation windows to give a greater priority to those who 174 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,720 own there, which we saw them do that at Riviera, We saw them do 175 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,080 that at Disneyland, at Fort Wilderness, at the Grand 176 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Floridian. So even though you're you're 177 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,160 already like within the seven month window, they give like a 178 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,320 little window for owners, you know, and then open it up to 179 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,160 everybody else. So I always thought that was a 180 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,280 really interesting. Just putting it in context, we 181 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,640 can like like we're talking about the home resort window, 182 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,160 they can shorten that window. Yeah, it could. 183 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:51,600 You could be six months for owners and five months for non 184 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,200 owners if they wanted to. I wonder how they ever settled 185 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,280 on 11 and seven like I wondered how that was. 186 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,560 I know I always wish it was. Yeah, why not a Why not a even 187 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:01,920 year? Or. 188 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,040 Whatever. It's an odd. 189 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,560 It's an odd, odd choice. Someone, someone out there 190 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,120 probably knows. Someone's probably studied this 191 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,680 a lot more than we have and. Actually, yeah. 192 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:11,600 Where? Where's Doc? 193 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,000 Where's Webmaster? Doc, we should have probably, 194 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,440 yeah, we should have had him back for this show for sure. 195 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Well, an even year would be easier to like keep track of 196 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,960 right, 'cause you're like, OK, today is. 197 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,200 Right, right, right. May 16th so I can book May 16th 198 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,320 next year right now. Like that would be so much 199 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,400 easier to think about. Logical, but I think that I 200 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,680 think Amy, and I think you might have mentioned it in your 201 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:38,400 original article that that I think overall, if that ever does 202 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,400 come about, it's a good thing, you know, meaning for those 203 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,080 owners at that resort. So you need to get a head start 204 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,440 over people that don't own at that resort. 205 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,720 So I would hope when the new Polynesian towers, whenever they 206 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,640 decide to start taking that give owners of the Polynesian a jump 207 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,560 start over someone that owns at a different resort, whether it's 208 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,800 a month, two months, it's not going to be 11 months. 209 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,360 We all know that, but a little bit of a head start. 210 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,040 So yeah, I think. That's a good. 211 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,000 Thing, right? And we're hoping to see that at 212 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,360 the Polynesian at the tower, since we have Polynesian points. 213 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:18,680 So OK, let's Scroll down so I can see the next step. 214 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,680 Oh you're already there. I thought it was that one. 215 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,960 I'm sorry. So this is, I feel like this is 216 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,760 along the along a similar lines is that they can impose. 217 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:35,480 So the minimum night stay for any DVC ever is one night, but 218 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,000 they are allowed to impose periods of time. 219 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,600 It could be like a holiday or a special event or a whole season 220 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,280 or whatever where they actually impose a minimum night 221 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,880 requirement and it can be up to five nights. 222 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,800 So for, for like those of us that are local, that book, you 223 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,240 know, like one night at a time, they can say, you know, 224 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:02,120 throughout the Christmas season, you must have, you know, a four 225 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,840 nights day, a five nights day, and you can't book anything 226 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,200 shorter than X amount of nights. That would be an issue that. 227 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,400 Never comes about. That would be me too, because it 228 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,360 it almost reminds me of when I happen to look for like, hey, 229 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,440 let's do a little staycation not at Disney, but like say, oh, I 230 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 found this really cool place on the beach and you're like, this 231 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,760 is awesome. This resort's perfect. 232 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,480 It looks like it's available. You go to book it for one night 233 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,680 or two nights and they're like, no, it has to be 7. 234 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,640 And you're like. Oh, and I can't do it. 235 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,080 But if don't do that with DBC points, 'cause if they take that 236 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,520 away, that one would infuriate me 'cause that is, that's what 237 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,240 makes us different from any other timeshare, is the ability 238 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,280 to just say, you know, check in any day you want, check out any 239 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,480 day you want, stay for one night, come back the next week 240 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,440 if you want. So yeah, I hope that one never 241 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,960 comes to fruition. I, I guess I just don't see the 242 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,040 angle that they're going for with that one. 243 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,240 Like, I understand the holiday policy and everything, but it 244 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,800 doesn't matter who's staying there. 245 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,680 It's like everyone's gonna spend money, right? 246 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,360 They have they have to clean that room though if you're 247 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,920 staying for one night. That's true. 248 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,520 We know how many one nights we used to do at Grand Villas and I 249 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,400 thought wow, for one night it's a lot of cleaning. 250 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,200 Yeah, that is a big housekeeping is a big point. 251 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,920 That could be a big because. The more one nights there are, 252 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:24,000 the more the more cleaning you got, but that would be that 253 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,440 would be kind of a slap in the face to local. 254 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,360 Oh yeah, big time. Local DVC members. 255 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:29,920 All my stays are one and two nights. 256 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,640 All of them. Yeah, so. 257 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,640 That would be hard. I'll be like, I'm totally fine 258 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,200 staying in a dirty room for one night. 259 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,600 I agree. So this one, this one comes up a 260 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:48,120 lot in the DVC fan group where people ask, you know, about 261 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:53,120 transferring points. And whenever we give advice on 262 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,000 this topic, we always disclaimer it with, you know, just so you 263 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,320 know, points that are transferred are actually 264 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,720 technically prohibited from receiving compensation. 265 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,000 So that's why you can't go to DVC resale market and buy 266 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,000 transfer points because in the home resort rules and 267 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,160 regulations document, it literally says, says the words 268 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,000 expressively prohibited. So basically transfer points are 269 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,400 designed for and we've done, we've done this before. 270 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,400 So we booked A2 bedroom villa with friends that were running 271 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,720 the race with us and we wanted to be together. 272 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,840 So we called and we transferred them points so that they could, 273 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,200 you know what I mean? That's what it's meant for, for 274 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,440 for friends and family members getting together, booking 275 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,240 something maybe larger or even giving, you know, points to a 276 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,480 member or something like that. But technically you're not 277 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,400 supposed to sell transferred points. 278 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Yeah, we get that question a lot at rental store too from members 279 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,800 like trying to supplement their membership like can I buy 25 280 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,240 points? No, you know, there's obviously 281 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,480 one time use points within the zero to seven month booking 282 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,560 window that you can supplement your membership with. 283 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,440 But technically you cannot buy points to supplement your 284 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,680 membership in a in a financial transaction like this. 285 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,880 So it's gotta be. I have a question. 286 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Yeah. Can members pool points 287 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,640 together? Let's say I had 100 points, Jeff 288 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,160 has 100 points. We won a grand villa, that's 200 289 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,320 we could do. That Yep. 290 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,920 So that's what the transfer is supposed to be for. 291 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,560 But where the challenge comes in is that every member technically 292 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,360 only gets one transfer per use year in or out. 293 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:45,680 So if you put gave your points, transfer them to Jeff and let's 294 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:51,080 say all of us wanted to share, then we can't to transfer any 295 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,560 points to Jeff for that same booking because he already 296 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,320 received a transfer for that year. 297 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 That's it for the year so. It's, it's, you know, limited, 298 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,320 Yeah. The other hand transfer. 299 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,080 And it's kind of a pain, right? Like you both have to be on the 300 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,280 phone at the same time with member services and they don't 301 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,960 know the secret handshake and. And then if you do if like if 302 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,720 Jeff had the points like they don't show up all the time. 303 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,120 Yeah, the technology doesn't always. 304 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,120 Work in your online account. So it causes chaos with that. 305 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,160 And the other thing with transfers that a lot of people 306 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,480 aren't aren't familiar with is that transfers retain their home 307 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,840 resort and their their booking priority window. 308 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,200 So like you know, Jeff owns primarily at old Key West Panda 309 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,520 you own at Riviera. So if you transferred in those 310 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,360 points thinking that you were got you guys were trying to get 311 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,680 like a grand Pilla at old Key West, you couldn't do that till 312 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,480 the zero to seven month window came along to to kind of use 313 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,880 those points together. So they retain all of their same 314 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,760 principles, so. Am I supposed to call on people? 315 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Is that how? This works. 316 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,640 He's the teacher, I'm not. What's up, Derek? 317 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,480 So question misses Krieger. So if I'm a member, am I only 318 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,480 allowed to receive points once a year or give transfer points 319 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,800 once a year? Or does either or transaction 320 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,240 count as one? Either or counts as one. 321 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,920 Yep. So it's one in or out. 322 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,599 So that limits a lot. Yeah. 323 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,720 And so that's why a lot of times when you see members, sometimes 324 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,640 we'll see members on the Facebook group. 325 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,400 They're like, hey, I've got two points left. 326 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,880 I don't want them to go away. Does anybody want them? 327 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,280 I'll transfer them to you. It's almost not worth it to take 328 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,720 that one that that those two points below your one transfer 329 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,480 for the whole year. So, you know, you have to kind 330 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,680 of think wisely about that. If if you don't, you know, if 331 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,800 you may not ever need to transfer points in the future, 332 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,880 then it doesn't matter. But we like to combine points 333 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,880 and stuff with friends and and and sometimes book larger 334 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,960 accommodations so. And there is one exception to 335 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,440 that and that is if you are transferring within your own 336 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,640 membership. So people that own multiple 337 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,960 contracts that have multiple users, if you would want to 338 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,800 transfer within your own membership then you can do that 339 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,480 and I. Believe you can do that as many 340 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,600 times. It's not a written role, it's 341 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,720 just the fact that DVC doesn't usually ever count members 342 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,120 transferring amongst their own contracts against their one 343 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:24,680 transfer, but they could if they wanted to. 344 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,800 Another question. I think I know the answer to 345 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,440 this. It's not my situation, but I'm 346 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,200 going to ask as though it was. I have December use Sharepoints 347 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,880 and I also have what's another use here month. 348 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,760 February. February you SharePoint and 349 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,160 they're both, you know, making me crazy on my contract. 350 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Is there ever a way to say, hey, I would just like both of them 351 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,520 to be December and somehow make this one in No, once it's done, 352 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,280 you sure it's done? You can. 353 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:55,800 Sell the one contract with Derek over at DVC resale market and 354 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,520 then buy the use year that you should have bought the first 355 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,320 time around and. Got you. 356 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,360 That fixes your problem. So good to know. 357 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,520 So with that in mind, hey, you passed it up. 358 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,160 Hold on. Well I guess 3 paragraphs. 359 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,120 Transfers are not supposed to receive compensation. 360 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:23,280 However, renting is okay and that is expressed throughout the 361 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,560 documentation of the public offering statements and home 362 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,320 resort rules and regulations. And the reason that renting is 363 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,760 okay is because the largest renter of DVC points is DVC 364 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,880 themselves and they are calling it what it is with the new 365 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,200 Polytower. They're even saying, you know, 366 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,640 cash rentals are available for DVC members to book starting 367 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,080 this day. Cash rentals are available for 368 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,600 annual pass holders of books during this day and then 369 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,800 everybody else on this day. So they are renting those 370 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,840 points. They do it when they own the 371 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,640 points. They do it when they get points 372 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,640 through exchanges, like people exchange, you know, into the 373 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,040 cruise and the Disney collection. 374 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,240 They get those points and they can rent them. 375 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,880 They just the rental process for them looks different because you 376 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,600 just see a cash day. On their website, like you would 377 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,920 book a hotel. So it's just, it's just a 378 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,560 little, a little different. But they mentioned renting 379 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:27,080 several times throughout the the documentation and they do they 380 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,080 do say, you know, commercial renting. 381 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:35,960 They used to define commercial renting as one owner, one, one 382 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,800 membership renting like 20 more than 20 times. 383 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,600 They, they, they removed that language. 384 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,920 They didn't really attach the number to it anymore. 385 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,080 But, and you know, if you are just renting a couple times a 386 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,880 year or your, you know, your points are not getting used. 387 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Paul and I rent a few times a year because we have not made it 388 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,520 out to Grand Californian since we bought points there because 389 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,840 we, we, we lucked out and got to stay at the seven month window 390 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,560 with our Animal Kingdom points. The next year after that we 391 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,040 stayed at the Disneyland Villas because they reopened. 392 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,400 So the last two years I'm not losing those valuable points. 393 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,480 We rented them out to help defray the cost of some of our 394 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,400 other travel. And so that's not commercial 395 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,200 renting the the the average normal renter who works with, 396 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,120 you know, like a a business like DVC rental store, that's not 397 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:25,000 commercial. Yeah, we get that question a lot 398 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,640 over at rental store. We have people that are like, 399 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,200 but I'm scared, is Disney gonna? Is Disney mad that I'm renting 400 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,080 my points? It's like no, Disney does not 401 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:33,560 care that you are renting, your points do. 402 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,080 They even they know when you rent your points. 403 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Why couldn't you be giving it to a relative? 404 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,440 Technically, that grand villa this weekend was not our points. 405 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,760 So we we were, we, we kind of were like renters. 406 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,520 And did you notice any differences? 407 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,200 Yeah, no. No. 408 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,880 And, and, and I think at the end of the day, it's all like, 409 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,200 where's the burden of proof? So, you know, we know how bad 410 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Disney's technology is as it is. So they have to do a lot of 411 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:04,800 homework to figure out, you know, if they want to like, call 412 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,520 you a commercial renter. And I'm not going to sit here 413 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,240 and say it doesn't happen. I have seen it happen to people. 414 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,760 I have seen it people breach some of these rules. 415 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,800 We're talking excessive renting. Yeah, we are talking excessive 416 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,760 renting. We are talking people that break 417 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,680 the rule of what they used to define as more than 20 418 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,400 reservations in a calendar, rolling calendar year. 419 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:29,000 The other one that they've been very, very strict on over the 420 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,400 years is how many points you own per membership. 421 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:39,040 It's 4000 per resort or 8000 across all resorts would be your 422 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,560 maximums. And so if you breach that or you 423 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,120 breach that 20 limit, I think those are the things that then 424 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:50,120 put you on their radar. And I mean they, they can 425 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:54,240 aggressively crack down on you if they if they suspect this, 426 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,520 but. At the end of the day, most of 427 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,640 us don't own that many points 5. 4000 points. 428 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,440 I don't think I'd be sitting here doing this podcast right 429 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,160 now, but. Now you'd be at work to be 430 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,040 doing. It from the grand villa that you 431 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,880 live in. That is exactly but. 432 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:17,680 Hey, one more thing just to kind of add to that, which is very, 433 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,600 very important is, but you guys, it's great that you brought up 434 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,840 the difference between transferring point and and 435 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,080 renting points. Just because there's a reason 436 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,840 that world of DVC doesn't have a, you know, DVC transfer store. 437 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,320 You know, we don't have it. It's DVC rental store. 438 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,320 But it's important for folks to know, just like Amy talked about 439 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,880 too. Is that why is it when I go 440 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,360 online, there's no DVC availability for members, but I 441 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,760 can still rent or I could still rent A room. 442 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,000 That's what we hear all the time is that people need to realize, 443 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,640 like you said, Miss Amy is that it's Disney owns, right. 444 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,560 They sell 98% of all the inventory is for members. 445 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,440 So that means there's 2% behind that is left for Disney to do 446 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320 whatever they want to do. So it's completely different 447 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,600 inventory. So when you're logging in and 448 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800 you say why is it booked, I don't understand 'cause I could 449 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,360 rent it for $1000 a night but I can't use my points. 450 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,360 It's completely different inventory, so keep that in mind. 451 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,080 Yeah. And take that a step further, I 452 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,400 mean, they do all of these exchanges through Disney Cruise 453 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,760 Line, through Adventures by Disney. 454 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,880 Right, they don't just throw those points in the dumpster. 455 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,160 Yeah. They're not just taking your 456 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,200 points and saying, hey, thanks and then just not doing anything 457 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,680 with them. They're renting rooms with them. 458 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,280 And we spoke on one of our more recent shows about this and how 459 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,920 we think that this is probably part of the strategic plan that 460 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,200 that Disney Vacation Club has embarked on. 461 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,160 I think they have. They've acknowledged the amount 462 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,480 of money that they can make on rentals is significant. 463 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,920 And why not do as much as possible themselves with these 464 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,600 places like the cabins at Fort Wilderness, while also probably 465 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,320 getting considerable tax breaks by having it and calling it a 466 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,160 vacation club property. So they're benefiting on the tax 467 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,840 breaks, insurance, all of those categories while they're renting 468 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,280 their rooms and making more money. 469 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,320 I would love, I, you know, we, we see Disney's quarterly 470 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,880 earnings and everything. I'd love to see the breakdown 471 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,120 for Disney vacation. Oh yeah. 472 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:15,080 Because I, I imagine that that number is much, much higher than 473 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,920 we anticipate it being, you know, rivaling kind of the sales 474 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,240 numbers that, that they make from selling points as well. 475 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,440 Not a good point because look at Aulani that they've been selling 476 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,840 since forever ago and will sell until it expires. 477 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,800 But normally if that situation were to happen to anybody else, 478 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,400 they'd be bankrupt and they would have closed that resort. 479 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,760 But they have no problem renting Aulani rooms. 480 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,240 That is one of the most popular hotels on Aulani, you know, so 481 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,280 that that does make sense. That tracks. 482 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,400 OK, this one's just kind of a fun one and and a no means are 483 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,720 we going to overthrow the DVC voting government, but so 484 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,720 control of the association. So basically according to the 485 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,600 public offering statement DVD. So Disney vacation development 486 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,520 is the authorized voting representative for each unit. 487 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,880 So each unit is each resort and they are the ones that cast the 488 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:22,080 vote at the condo association on behalf of all members, but based 489 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,800 on that. So they have full voting control 490 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:30,480 pretty much. So basically it is possible for, 491 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,320 you know, like somebody else to take control, I guess of the 492 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,880 voting. But basically what you have to 493 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,760 do is you have to instruct in writing in advance of the 494 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,800 meeting and enough owners have to basically like sign off on it 495 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,680 that own that unit. It's like 60% of the ownership. 496 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,080 So basically if, if I wanted to be the voting voice of Boardwalk 497 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,120 Villas, I have to own there and then I have to get 60% of the 498 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:59,680 membership to basically like back me up in writing. 499 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:02,760 So, so I thought that was interesting, but obviously it's 500 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,880 not something you want to do because it's, it would be quite 501 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,800 hectic I think, but. We've joked about it. 502 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,880 We'd love Derek to become the the President of the. 503 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Association or or. But could you imagine what you 504 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,080 have to deal with at that point like you have to now deal? 505 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,000 With You're right, Derek, huh. Right. 506 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 Oh, and this is 60% of the ownership of the points. 507 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,560 So like you have to get 60% of the point ownership together. 508 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,880 We're talking like millions. It's. 509 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,400 Funny that you brought this because this came up at the 510 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,640 condo association meeting last year. 511 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520 There were two people that asked the, you know, when they wait in 512 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,920 line to ask the questions at the end. 513 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,440 The first question was, will Polly be part of the new 514 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,640 associate or, you know, existing association? 515 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,480 And then the two behind them were like, how do we be the 516 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,160 board? Because we don't necessarily 517 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,960 agree with what you're doing. And the, it was almost like the 518 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,960 air got sucked out of the room for a minute because you could 519 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,080 tell they didn't have enough time to explain what, what 520 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,400 actually needed to take place. And so they just kind of hold it 521 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,440 over and said, you know, we're, it's in the contracts and blah, 522 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,520 blah, blah, blah, blah. And. 523 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,240 It. It never works out well when the 524 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,000 crew asks the captain how can we do mutiny the. 525 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,320 Captain doesn't usually. Give the right information. 526 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,280 And I'm, and I'm not a lawyer, so I don't really pretend to 527 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,680 know the technicalities of it, but it is written there and it 528 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,360 is a thing. Offense, but how? 529 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,320 Can we overthrow you? Like our HOA recently took over, 530 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,040 like in Florida, we have homeowners associations, OK. 531 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,640 And this is maybe a good example, maybe it's not, but 532 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,960 certain developers at the end of their building process do turn 533 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,040 over the association to basically the residents. 534 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,360 Our community has had such a tough time of figuring this 535 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,960 stuff out. Like we have people quitting 536 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,920 left and right. I don't want a part of it. 537 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,480 Nope. So and so is complaining. 538 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,360 I don't. Nope. 539 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Don't get me involved in that. I ain't gonna go knock on their 540 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,600 door and tell them their grass is too high. 541 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,600 It is like, like this is legitimately the thing. 542 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,880 And, and I don't think people that ask this question maybe at 543 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,720 the condo association realize like, OK, you're now responsible 544 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,920 for negotiating with the cast members who do housekeeping. 545 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,040 You're now responsible for the full maintenance. 546 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,320 You got to figure out, OK, what's the insurance like? 547 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,560 You know you. Don't want things like. 548 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,760 You just really don't want this. It takes a company, yeah. 549 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,080 Yeah, although, although I may anyone that's interested in 550 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,080 helping me with a coup for the boardwalk to get a good sports 551 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:46,120 bar and brewery, e-mail me. We have the space, or at least 552 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,320 we know where it's at. OK, that's. 553 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,880 Behind that food truck. All right, so, so that was 554 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,880 actually if you want to read more about that and see all I 555 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,840 actually in those articles, the first one's called DVC roles you 556 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,440 might not know about, I think. And the other one's called DVC 557 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,440 roles you might not know about Part 2. 558 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,600 So you can search for those in DVC fan and they will pop up. 559 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,160 And in part one, the first one, I pulled out all the language 560 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,160 and have screenshots of all the documents in case you want to 561 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,840 read the actual documentation. But anyway, this one's a little 562 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,880 different. It's not quite focusing on the, 563 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200 you know, the home resort rules and regulations and the public 564 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,240 offering statements. This is more just general 565 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440 things. I think some people tend to 566 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,400 forget. And, and so these are things 567 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,640 like holding points, you know, like what, what do you need to 568 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,080 know about holding points? So, so we have points in holding 569 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,360 right now and I think Jeff has points in holding right now. 570 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,880 And a lot of people don't realize if you cancel a stay 571 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,480 after 31 days before check in. So 30 days or less, your points 572 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,240 are going to go into holding, right. 573 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,960 But there is a there is a point where you lose them all together 574 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,040 is that day of if you cancel the day of. 575 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,880 Yeah. OK, so so 30 to one day you 576 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,360 have. To cancel one day before. 577 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,280 Checking your points go into the holding. 578 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,160 We, we, we think of it like a, kind of like a penalty box of 579 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,760 canceling late. And, and when that happens, you 580 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,400 can still book them, but you can only book them 60 days out. 581 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:28,000 It is a 60 day rolling window. So you know, so just because you 582 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,600 know, something you want isn't 60 days out yet, you can wait a 583 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920 little longer until it gets into that, that window. 584 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,440 But at 60 days availability, you know, can be scarce. 585 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,440 So it can be a little bit of a challenge. 586 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,280 And then the other things that are important to know about 587 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,640 holding points is that no matter what, they expire at the end of 588 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:53,320 the youth year that you, you know, you used them in last and 589 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,800 you cannot bank them. You know, you can't borrow them, 590 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,280 you can't transfer them or anything like that. 591 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,160 There is a way to get your points out holding and it's a 592 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,760 little hard to explain and I'm not going to explain it in this 593 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,880 video because I did ADVC tip of the week and I explained it in 594 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,840 one minute 1 less than one minute. 595 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,720 So. Where can someone find the DVC 596 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,920 typically? I am glad you asked. 597 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,320 I sound like an infomercial. They are located in the DVC 598 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,560 YouTube channel and they are located under the shorts 599 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,960 section. Where else? 600 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,800 You know I'm not good with social media so that's all I 601 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,000 know. I think Instagram. 602 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,920 Instagram maybe? Maybe the tickety talk, but I 603 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,960 don't really know how to use that. 604 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,360 I've seen it on the Tickety talk. 605 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,920 It's on the Tickety talk. And I got to tell you so. 606 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,480 So Paul, it was Paul's idea. I thought it was a great idea, 607 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,320 but I wanted it to work for every platform. 608 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,760 So in order for that to happen, I was like, it has to be one 609 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,840 minute or less. So I have to get out whatever I 610 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,960 want to say in one minute or less. 611 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,880 And I was like, I don't want to have to do these all the time. 612 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,440 So I'm going to batch record a bunch of them. 613 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,160 So I recorded 16 of them at a time, you know, for 16 weeks. 614 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360 And Derek, This is why you run out of shirts. 615 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,240 It's because you change your shirt all the time. 616 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:16,280 I changed my shirt 16 * 16 times because, OK, this, we record 617 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,720 three of these at once and people know that, right? 618 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,520 So I have the same shirt on most of you guys do except for Derek 619 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,280 not. Everyone knew that you. 620 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,680 Guys know. OK, now you know, I'm, I, I do 621 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,840 not wear this shirt three weeks in a row, but I was like 16 622 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,320 weeks. That would get sketchy. 623 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Like people would start to wonder why I had the same shirt 624 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,720 on for 16 weeks, don't you think? 625 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,560 We had someone come up to us at DBC Fan Summerfest and they were 626 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,520 like, you sit for the better part of four hours and record 627 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,920 these shows and I'm like, yeah, we do. 628 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,560 It's easier than once, you know, trying to find time every single 629 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,440 week. But but anyway, yeah I so I 630 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,680 changed my shirt 16 times. I don't even think I have 16 631 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,200 shirts. I have a lot of clothes, 632 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,160 including a lot of clothes I need to dig out and find. 633 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,080 But anyway, so I was losing my train of thought. 634 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,240 I don't. Even know anyhow if you if you 635 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,000 tune into Amy's tip of the week, they come out on Wednesdays and 636 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,280 and she has a tip of the week telling you how you can get your 637 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960 points out of holding coming up very, very soon. 638 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,239 Right. I don't know which number that 639 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,840 one is, but but it's it's coming up within the next whatever 14 640 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,320 weeks because we're already 22 into the 16. 641 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,920 So anyways, if you want to know how to get your points out a 642 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,840 holding, stay tuned to the DVC Tip of the Week. 643 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,719 Oh, it's week four. It'll be out before this show if 644 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,520 it goes up. That's. 645 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,600 Great. I'm sorry. 646 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,560 Well, so go back and find it and now you'll know. 647 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,080 All right, moving on. So we already talked about 648 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,320 transfer points. I don't know if I want to say 649 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,560 much else about those. Let's move down to one time use 650 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,960 points. We mentioned those earlier. 651 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,679 What are those? So so one time use points. 652 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:56,719 A lot of people don't realize they exist, especially when they 653 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,960 start talking about like oh can I get point transfers? 654 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960 What can I do? I'm short by this many points. 655 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:09,920 So Disney will sell you up to 24 points once per US year now. 656 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,040 And they they have, they have fluctuated in price. 657 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,840 They used to be $19.00 then they went way up to like 22 and and 658 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,840 the first time I've ever seen anything come down in price. 659 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:27,040 They are now $20 which is $17.77 plus $1.16 in tax plus a dollar 660 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,800 seven in resort tax. Just in case you were wondering 661 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,240 what the breakdown was even though you didn't ask, but one 662 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,840 time use points. Basically let's say you're 663 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,280 booking a stay and you're a couple points short and you 664 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,200 don't have anything left to borrow or bank. 665 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,200 Or maybe you just don't want to borrow or bank. 666 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,280 You can call DDC and buy one time use points. 667 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,960 Now you can only buy them at the seven month window or less, so 668 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,040 you can't use them for like a home resort booking. 669 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,760 Basically they're giving you just kind of like random points, 670 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,800 like some like they're like Pharaoh or Hilton Head or Aulani 671 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,360 points or whatever. You don't know what they are. 672 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,080 Although sometimes they randomly show up and make it look like 673 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,480 you own at that resort. But they basically are just the 674 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,240 kind of round out a reservation. So you need to be booking it at 675 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,680 the time when you call and they will add those points, they'll 676 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,400 charge you for them and then you'll move on your day we've. 677 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,880 Bought them for a. Oh, we've bought them multiple 678 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,840 times when we first became DVC members, like like three or four 679 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,640 times. We bought one time use points 680 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,400 so. Anyone else ever bought any? 681 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,920 I never have. Nope. 682 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,480 Nope. Wow. 683 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,080 Just us. I just keep borrowing. 684 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,920 I'm I'm in a constant state of borrowing. 685 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,080 You're getting better though, Like you're getting closer to no 686 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,880 maybe. Next year will be better. 687 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,360 OK, Derek, you're going to see them. 688 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,560 No, I was just going to ask a question. 689 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,680 You might have covered it and maybe I didn't hear it, but can 690 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,520 I buy one time use points if I purchased my points on the 691 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,520 resale market? Oh, that is a great question, 692 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,520 Mr. Devore. And the answer to that is yes, 693 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,680 you can. There's no restrictions on what 694 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:10,160 type of owner you need to be to buy one time use points, but 695 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,920 something you do need to know about them is that the you 696 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,560 cannot get them refunded. If you decide not to use them. 697 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,640 You can cancel that stay and they will be in your account so 698 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,560 you can use them again. But they do expire at the end of 699 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,280 whatever use year you bought them in. 700 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,640 Yeah. I feel like we need like the 701 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,280 commercial, like the more, you know, like come up in between. 702 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,200 I know a guy that does commercials. 703 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,360 He's pretty good. I can't wait to watch that 704 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,640 commercial. That's that's gonna be great. 705 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,640 That's gonna come back to haunt him on this show. 706 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,800 I don't know how or why, but it's happening. 707 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,280 So something else that comes up a lot in in the message boards 708 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,320 and groups is related to the maximum amount of days that 709 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,320 you're allowed to book. And so a lot of people don't 710 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,320 realize that when they first go to book a reservation, let's say 711 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,160 that Panda wants to stay for two weeks and he's like ready. 712 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,880 He's at the 11 month window, He's got his Riviera points 713 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,000 ready. Panda is not going to be able to 714 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000 book two weeks. He's only going to be able to 715 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,080 book seven nights. So you can actually only book 7 716 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,920 consecutive nights at the 11 month window. 717 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,760 And then as the next, as the next window opens up, you can 718 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,760 add, you can add a day and add a day and add a day for as long as 719 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,720 you need. OK, so that's only at the 11 720 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:34,200 month window that that occurs, but there is a maximum amount of 721 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,080 nights that you can stay on a single reservation. 722 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,760 Does anyone know what that is before Paul put it up on the 723 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,240 screen? This is it like 10 times. 724 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,520 Two, I'm going to say 3030 days. Wait, is 30 days the same as 30 725 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,960 nights? That timing was perfect. 726 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,240 That was amazing. 30 yes, so so you can only stay for a total of 727 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:56,360 30 before you have to check out yeah, you can check back into 728 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,960 somewhere else even the same resort and room category, but it 729 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,880 might not be the same room, but. I love how this is related to 730 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,480 like squatting. It's. 731 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,040 Squatting. Yeah, you can't squat. 732 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,720 Because your last sentence here said there might be a concern 733 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,640 over living somewhere longer than 30 days and the ability to 734 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,080 claim residency or tenancy, which I'm curious to see if this 735 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,160 like still becomes a thing or if they start to expand this 736 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,480 because Florida recently cracked down on squatting. 737 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,880 Yeah. Squatting rights. 738 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,160 And so that's. Interesting that was, that was 739 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,320 just that was just me making an assumption though, because I do 740 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,920 there is something related to 30 days and residency, you know 741 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,720 what I mean, so. I'd love to stand on DVC for 30 742 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,240 days, that'd be great. Could you imagine? 743 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:43,480 I see Jeff on the last day being like he's got 24 hours to Get Me 744 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,440 Out. Otherwise, I live here. 745 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,160 I just. Had a guy, I just had an awesome 746 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,800 member that listed probably close to, you know, 2000 points 747 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,840 with us for sale because he wound up buying a place down 748 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,360 here. And he would literally, he lives 749 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,280 up in Michigan, but he would also take his time to come down 750 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,560 here. You know, during the Michigan 751 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440 winters, he would come down here and he would literally say, OK, 752 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,960 this these two weeks, it's just me. 753 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,920 So I just need a studio. Then my kids and my, you know, 754 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,120 other family's going to come Now we're going to do a two-bedroom 755 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,120 for three weeks and then over the holidays we're going to 756 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,680 switch over to this resort. So people do do it. 757 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,960 It is not. That. 758 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,960 Unique of a thing. It's true. 759 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,120 There was like our international friends do that a lot because 760 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,800 when they come, they come for long periods of time 2. 761 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,640 Weeks, right? Somebody that had been here for 762 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,840 two weeks from Germany. Mm, Hmm. 763 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,440 Yeah, three, sometimes three or more weeks, yeah. 764 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,120 And yeah, there's a lot of people that snowbird at DVC 765 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,760 resorts. And like you said, Derek, to 766 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,960 maximize their points, they'll they'll stay at a studio for so 767 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,640 long and then they'll go to a one bedroom for a few nights and 768 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,400 do laundry and then they'll go back to a studio. 769 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,680 I mean, it just depends, but a lot of people do stuff like 770 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,040 that. There's been like one or two 771 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,200 families too that have like done like Disney for a year. 772 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,160 So they've stayed on Disney property in some capacity for a 773 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,120 year. And then they and they play the 774 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,040 game between both cash bookings and DVC. 775 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,000 But you know, this rule comes into effect obviously for them, 776 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,000 but also it's also playing the game of like when do we need to 777 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,560 do laundry? OK, get the one bedroom like you 778 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,520 like it's. Like if you spent like if you 779 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,160 spent a whole year at DVC and you did like one month at each 780 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,360 resort, like like you would have to, to me, I would have to sit 781 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,120 down and strategize. Like, OK, I want to be at Copper 782 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,320 Creek through December because Christmas is amazing there. 783 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,120 And I want to be at, you know, Boardwalk during October because 784 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,560 you know what I mean? Like I feel like I would want to 785 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,040 be at certain resorts at certain times of the month. 786 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,280 Bay Lake Tower during Halloween so that I can walk to the 787 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,280 Halloween party and see the Halloween fireworks it. 788 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,400 Would be quite the be quite the project to like put that 789 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,400 together. Right. 790 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,160 So the last, the last thing that I wanted to talk about are 791 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,800 reservations across use years. And this comes up sometimes when 792 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,840 people go to book and they don't realize, but you know, whatever 793 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,960 your use year is matters and you actually cannot book a 794 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,920 reservation that crosses use years as a single reservation. 795 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,200 So our use year, for example, is February. 796 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,240 So our our use year runs February 1st until January 31st. 797 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:31,800 So if we have a stay that starts on, let's say like January 28th 798 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,480 and ends on like February 3rd, we would have to book January 799 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,840 28th to January 30, you know, or January 28th to February 1st as 800 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:47,680 one stay, February 1st to whatever date I said before, 3rd 801 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,800 as another stay. And then I don't even know if 802 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,960 you could combine those if they're the same. 803 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,160 Are you trying to look over the thing and be a creeper? 804 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,320 It's like Wilson from Home Improvement. 805 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,360 So you've got to share your eyes. 806 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,520 Wow. Let's all see who can be the 807 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,480 creepiest. So you cannot. 808 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,560 You cannot cross for use yours as a single bucking. 809 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,760 So some people don't realize that and it can affect like how 810 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,680 you're booking and confusing. So it can be confusing. 811 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,920 There's not, there's not going to be a pop quiz on this, is 812 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,280 there? There will be a quiz at the end. 813 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,480 I swear I heard a rumor once that the DVC wishes that they 814 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,160 never did U Sears and that it's just really confusing and like 815 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,560 it should have just all been. Here's your points. 816 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,480 It's it's it's more confusing because there's not a U seer for 817 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,560 every month. Like, I think it would be a 818 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,400 little bit more logical then, but it's like I I still to this 819 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,800 day can't tell you how many people think that their points 820 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,800 expire at the end of the calendar year. 821 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,120 And it's like no matter how many ways I've tried to ask the 822 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,520 question, it can always be confusing. 823 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,120 Like the best way that I put it anymore is it's like, what, 824 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,160 what, what day do your points magically appear in your account 825 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,200 every, every every year? Like that's that's the easiest 826 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,200 way to kind of get near that question, but even some people 827 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,840 are confused on that. And then some people think their 828 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:21,760 points expire, like when the banking deadline comes or it's 829 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,080 just. Or even like February, like they 830 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,280 if you have a February youth year, they think it's February 831 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,520 1st, but it's not the day before that, correct? 832 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,880 Yeah, it would be the night. Yeah, your last night would be 833 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,040 like January 31st that you could stay on property. 834 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,480 Only get a lot of people that get confused when their use year 835 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,000 is December because it's so close to the next. 836 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,000 Year. Year. 837 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,840 It blows people's minds. That's right. 838 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,640 Yeah, it does. You are always a year behind and 839 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,680 and and. Like literally only one month is 840 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,840 in the normal year, yeah. I don't know the best wish I 841 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,960 guess I could do that. So like here, like this is what 842 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,760 I do with people like I, I make charts and stuff with points 843 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,760 When when I when I kind of chart everything out when those. 844 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,800 People had to kill a dragonfly first. 845 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:20,720 Exactly, but I have to bucket points into certain brackets to 846 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,960 figure out, OK, what are we talking about and will it work? 847 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,280 The specific example right there was actually a great example 848 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,960 similar to the yours that you did with the February US year 849 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,200 where I had a a a gentleman that was looking to rent points and 850 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,920 we had an opportunity to ramp points. 851 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,080 But the reservation was like January 26th to February 3rd. 852 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,400 And I had to kind of explain that he couldn't book that 853 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,120 reservation because of that. You know, no matter what he did, 854 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,240 like, even if he had the points in both US years and he wanted 855 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,280 to use them right, it couldn't be done you. 856 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,360 Can't give a guess of a split reservation that wants a whole 857 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,320 reservation. Yeah, you would want. 858 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,040 The guest is expecting to be able to stay in the same villa 859 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,360 the entire time. We're talking about this like 860 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,520 it's normal, but I can't believe they can't have the system book 861 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,720 the trip and say these points right here for these nights came 862 00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:13,800 from here and these nights came from there. 863 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,960 It's it's just seems a little silly. 864 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:21,520 Oh, it's yeah, it's totally just the technology, you know, and 865 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,600 and also to themselves and also they're creating, they're 866 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,240 creating split stays on their own. 867 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:29,240 That don't need to happen, you know, because people do jump use 868 00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:30,720 yours. Like people will like they're 869 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,880 not going to let this, you know, prohibit whatever they plan to 870 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,440 do for their vacation. But now they are going to have 871 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,880 to check out. And in some instances, you know, 872 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,920 they're going to have to check out of that room and check into 873 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,640 a new room. And now housekeeping had to 874 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,960 clean that room when they really didn't have to. 875 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,960 Now, they are good in certain circumstances of, you know, 876 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,120 marking the reservations and basically making it so that 877 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,960 you're in the same room and not make it. 878 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,240 But there's never any guarantee. It's just like when you call and 879 00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:01,840 you're trying to change your reservation or move something 880 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,520 and you release a reservation and they're like, hey, someone 881 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,400 could snag it in the next .2 milliseconds before I press 882 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,400 enter. Like they have to give you that 883 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,160 disclaimer to let you know that that's that's a possibility, 884 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,200 yeah. Yeah, that's all I got. 885 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,400 What's? Up here was. 886 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,920 I was just going to add to that, if anybody out there watching, 887 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,560 and again, we have such a great audience and a lot of folks 888 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,080 because I hear them all the time, will say we just love 889 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,240 watching the show. We're not a member yet. 890 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,640 Don't let all of this stuff kind of confuse you or make you think 891 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,880 that the club is super confusing or anything else. 892 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,200 We're just having fun. So there's a lot of, you know, 893 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,880 DBC nerds out there that we love to talk about this stuff and 894 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,680 kind of go deep in the weeds. But again, that's what we're 895 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,800 here for. So at the, you know, DBC Resell 896 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,000 Market, reach out to us with any questions. 897 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,760 If you're just learning how this club works, we promise you it 898 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,480 really is at the end of the day a very simple, easy to use club. 899 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,600 This is just fun, nerdy stuff that we like to do from time to 900 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,600 time. Yeah, that is a great 901 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,520 disclaimer. Yeah. 902 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,440 And, and honestly, Paul and I successfully used our membership 903 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,480 for several years without knowing any of that stuff. 904 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,760 Yeah. So we were not smart members in 905 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,240 the beginning either. So it. 906 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,440 Right. You have to learn and 907 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,480 experience, you know, experience. 908 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,480 Learning. Learn by doing right, whatever. 909 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,840 That's all I got. So you know, class dismissed I 910 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,400 guess. Hey. 911 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,720 That was a good that was a good class. 912 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,080 Yeah. If you have questions about any 913 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,280 of these rules or if you if you think of any yourself, you know, 914 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,880 please put those in the comments. 915 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,560 As always, you know, like and subscribe to our YouTube channel 916 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,600 for more and also head to DBC fan dot com so that you can read 917 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,120 these articles that Amy wrote. They go into a little bit more 918 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,920 detail on everything related to the rules that we discussed and 919 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,040 a little bit more than what I was putting up on screen for 920 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,920 those of you actually. Watching the show and what 921 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,560 e-mail do you guys want me to send the quiz to? 922 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:08,440 John@bigflatpanda.com. All right, well we hope you guys 923 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,880 enjoyed this and we didn't bore you too much. 924 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,280 I thought it was fun, but I. Found your. 925 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,320 Homework. I have no idea how that has 926 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,760 happened. Nice work. 927 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,800 Jeff, I don't know what else to do, but I'll tell you all that 928 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,360 we enjoyed talking with you and we will see you all next Monday.