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So to kick us off this week, I 
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quick. 
Has anyone really had like a 

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terrible waste of points 
experience ever, like with their

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DVC membership? 
Like just something where it's 

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like I would never do that ever 
again, Like never wanted to do a

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redo on that stay or something. 
You mean other other than 

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staying at Bay Lake Tower? 
No. 

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Yeah, Bay Lake Tarot was the 
most disappointing studio I've 

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ever seen. 
Span it is, and it continues to 

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take the cake until it gets its 
refurbishment here and. 

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I love Bay Lake. 
I do too, I. 

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Love the location, I just think 
it could be so much. 

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We love the location. 
You don't love Bay Lake. 

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There's no way that you walk 
into that studio and say, oh, I 

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love it, You love the location. 
It's OK, but it's the location. 

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Exactly. 
Some of us don't stay in 

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studios, Derek. 
We are bougie and only stay in 

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one bedrooms or higher, so and 
the one bedroom and two bedrooms

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at Bay Lake are awesome. 
This explains why your point 

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broke all the time. 100%. 
I don't think we've ever stayed 

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somewhere that I was like, Nope,
never again. 

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But Speaking of wasting points, 
I'm still very sad that we lost 

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like. 2. 
Two, I think it's. 

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Full Ours too. 
We lost two points, yeah. 

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Two points lost. 
When are you here? 

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Yeah, yeah, that, that's six 
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We could have stayed at Hilton 
Head for one night in January. 

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It's. 
A whole night of points. 

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If only we could pull our points
that way. 

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You know if. 
Only could have got Grant, Willa

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and Hilton had in January for 
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Would have been perfect. 
Hey, everybody, and welcome to 

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this week's episode of the DVC 
Show. 

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I'm your host, Paul Krieger, and
I'm joined this week by my wife,

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Amy Krieger. 
We've got John Sacari, AKA Big 

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Fat Panda with us. 
Welcome home. 

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Senior sales associate for the 
DVC resale market Derek Devore. 

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Hey now. 
And the one the only Jeff has. 

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Changed his shirt too he. 
Did everyone else is? 

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Getting in on the change the 
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Games I couldn't do this show on
my Hilton Head show shirt. 

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Hilton. 
Head shirt. 

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Never mind. 
Hilton Head show shirt. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, well. 

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Say that three times fast. 
Before I just before I get too 

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far off the rails, Panda, are 
you wearing a Park Candy shirt? 

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I think this is a Roosevelt's. 
No, no, no. 

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It could be a Park candy. 
No. 

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You know what? 
Let's find out. 

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It is. 
It is Park Candy. 

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That's what my, my, Hawaii, 
they. 

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Make really good shirts. 
I like have to. 

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Check them out. 
I've never. 

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Derek will check them out too. 
He buys, he buys three shirts 

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specialty for each one of these 
shows. 

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So. 
I just said I literally told Amy

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right before we started filming.
I go, I think this is like my 

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first redo in a really long 
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It's my old Jimmy Buffett 
Margaritaville shirt, so I 

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wasn't sure how it fit in with 
the theming of everything, but I

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think I'm official Tapped Out. 
Who tapped out of shirts? 

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Put in the comments below what 
show Derek wore that shirt on 

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previously and he'll send you 
the shirt off of his back. 

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I'll. 
Send you. 

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I'll send you a bucket hat, 
yeah. 

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We're at Moonlight Magic 
recently and people keep coming 

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up to us and every time I don't 
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At first it just looks really 
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He's like back in the back 
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his backpack and then he finally
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hands. 
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introduction, but like the five 
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questionable as to what Derek's 
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Amy told PEOPLE, Amy said if you
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he may have a special prize for 
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So their prize is not meeting 
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Their prize is Hey, where's that
special prize that Amy said you?

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Have for me. 
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Is. 
It a special prize if you're 

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handing out 62 of them. 
You're still special. 

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He. 
You. 

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You. 
Got rid of every single one of 

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them, I mean. 
He stopped a lot in his 

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backpack. 
I threatened. 

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I threatened to put to bring a 
sign and hold it up behind Derek

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the whole night. 
That said moonlight magic merch.

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Because, you know, DVC doesn't 
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merch. 
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ought to do it. 
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Hey, that that was the most fun 
I've had in a long time and 

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being able to be with you guys 
and being able to meet so many 

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awesome families that came up to
us and it was just it was 

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incredible. 
So it just it it was awesome 

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each. 
Experience to meet someone is is

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amazing and we do have so many 
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they say that, you know they're 
they're scared to interrupt what

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we're doing or they're scared to
say hello, please we would love 

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to to meet you, chat with you 
and you know it. 

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It just means the world to us. 
Amy and I and Derek, you get 

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this too you know more so than 
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experience it because of our 
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We get people on the phone all 
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amazing all of the messages and 
and the kind words that come 

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through and and the 
conversations we get to have And

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some of some of those we've 
gotten to actually put you know 

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voices to faces over the years 
and gotten to meet some of them 

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after talking to them on the 
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And Derek, you've you've done 
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So you've you, you've got plenty
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But love, love meeting people 
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Moonlight magic special. 
Thank you you guys that are on 

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this show for for having us 
along with you and and and for 

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us all being able to go 
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That was a awesome experience 
and we look forward to doing it 

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again real soon. 
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Thankfully, they don't have my 
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say, that was the most expensive
moonlight magic I've ever been 

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to cause. 
Panda made you and I buy new 

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cameras. 
That is very true, yeah. 

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Yeah, you're going to see a lot 
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content coming out of Panda, 
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the very near future. 
We all now have the same exact 

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camera and I think we need to go
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tutorial class on how to use it.
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I've been watching YouTube 
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that on to you as well. 
Perfect. 

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Yep. 
It'll be good. 

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Because I had the care on most 
of melee magic and my camera 

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skills are so bad, so shaky. 
How you did a? 

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Great job. 
And this thing has what 

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stabilization, So. 
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I think we started filming 
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At one point I said it was so 
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that Moonlight Magic video 
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filming and doing it. 
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I know the flow, I know what's 
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So when I got to the part when 
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drumming and then Panda comes 
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I'm dying like it was. 
It was just so cool to. 

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Oh, you weren't there for the 
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No, I was not. 
I I don't know where. 

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I think I was like over with 
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knows what, but it yeah, I was 
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dance. 
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It was fun to be able to step 
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these videos through the through
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Just just to be clear, right 
before the dance, Jeff gives me 

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some. 
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but I had a rum floater on the 
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the rum and it went to my head. 
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I was very confident that 
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to be like Cirque du Soleil and.
It was. 

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Soleil So if you've not checked 
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check it out. 
And we also have what I what 

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I've dubbed Pandas cut of the 
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on patreon.com/DVC fan. 
So definitely head over there as

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well and we've got a fun video 
coming up. 

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Well, at the point of this show 
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ago, So go back in time 2 weeks 
and watch, watch Jeff Haslam's 

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experience at Moonlight Magic 2 
days later at Epcot, where he 

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went there with a bunch of our 
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other friends and got to snack 
around the World Showcase for 

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Flower and Garden because the 
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Magic were able for that. 
And that was a that was a great 

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time, right, Jeff? 
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Yeah, Animal Kingdom, everybody 
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Epcot everybody used it at the 
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So that tells you the difference
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Yep, Yep. 
But enough chit chat. 

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We're here to talk business, and
this week's business is talking 

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about, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna 
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But we're talking about the 
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rooms to book at each Disney 
Vacation Club resort, and this 

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was a topic that you came up 
with, right? 

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Yeah, I just a lot of times 
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Facebook group or wherever just 
asking, you know, if I were to 

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try to book this resort at seven
months out or I need to set a 

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wait list for it, what is my 
best chance of getting a room? 

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So, so basically like what are 
the easiest rooms to get? 

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What is, what has the most 
inventory or even like some 

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people we'll try to get a room 
and be like, well where did it 

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go, why didn't I get it? 
And so just understanding what 

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are the really difficult rooms 
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Also, at each resort, what are 
the easiest to book and then 

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maybe some general tips for for 
booking, You know, trying to get

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what you want. 
Before we dive into it though, 

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You guys are terrible at this 
today. 

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Rent some points or rent out 
your own points but please show 

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some love for our sponsors at 
the world of DVC who allow us to

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goof off like this several times
a month. 

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So, but we are talking easiest, 
hardest rooms to book and you 

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kind of came up with a list of 
kind of just some general tips 

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for us to kind of start the 
conversation off before we kind 

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of look at each specific Disney 
Vacation Club resort. 

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Yeah, actually. 
Can you bring them over closer 

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where I can see what I'll bring 
them? 

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I'll bring them. 
Over here, actually over there 

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is fine. 
There we go. 

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OK, so the first one, you said 
one bedrooms are the easiest 

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category to book. 
Yeah. 

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So basically obviously studios 
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because you know they're the 
cheapest and compared to a one 

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bedroom, some studios can even 
sleep more capacity wise. 

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So a lot of families who are 
looking to kind of maximize 

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their points are going to go to 
studios 1st and that leaves the 

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the one bedrooms just just a 
little bit easier to book 

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because they cost more points. 
Sometimes you can only stay like

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four or five people, the same 
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So my first tip is if you can 
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If you have enough points to 
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harder to book places. 
So this is going to be helpful 

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to you at somewhere like Beach 
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don't own there, a studio is 
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So that's that's my. 
I feel like all of us to start 

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off with Disney Vacation Club. 
Everyone goes into it saying I'm

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going to book studios because 
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easiest. 
You know, we are all, we are all

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point misers at heart. 
But then you get the first one 

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bedroom experience and you're 
like, panda Panda's like, Yep, 

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been there, done that. 
Have enough points? 

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Yes. 
Yeah, been there, done that, got

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the T-shirt like it's like you, 
you, you, you walked into that 

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Riviera one bedroom probably, 
and you're like, Yep, I'm in 

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love. 
That's it. 

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That's exactly it. 
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most people do. 
But you know to, to Amy's point,

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the the one bedrooms don't get 
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even in the zero to seven month 
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Which is how we were able to 
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we did a one bedroom, so studios
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Yep, so definitely studios are 
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tend to be the easiest. 
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here a little bit. 
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of hit or miss, I feel like, 
depending on season and. 

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Yeah, I Grand Villas to me. 
Well, I I I mentioned Grand 

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Villas is one of the hardest to 
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inventory on Grand Villas is 
pretty low. 

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Especially if you look at like 
Grand Cow has like what, 2 Grand

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Villas? 
The The Disneyland. 

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The new Disneyland Villas has 
two Grand Villas. 

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You know, at Grand Floridian, 
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and they they might even still 
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Yeah, I think the first floor. 
So that, yeah. 

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So that leaves out, you know, 
there's there's not very many 

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Grand Villas at the resorts. 
There's just a handful. 

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You know, some have more, like 
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and Old Key West, But those in 
studios are actually going to be

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some of the hardest, hardest to 
book. 

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The lower the point cost of the 
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to get. 
Yeah, this is Derek's. 

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Derek preaches This. 
I feel like constantly. 

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I I preach it and I know we're 
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by resort. 
But when people ask me and say 

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and Amy, that's why your list 
was was so perfect. 

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People always ask me like what's
the hardest rooms to get. 

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I go the smallest rooms with the
worst views. 

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Those are always going to be the
hardest rooms to get. 

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So you're going to see when 
we're looking at rooms that have

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a regular option versus say, a 
preferred view or a standard 

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option. 
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that are going to go, a place 
like Animal Kingdom, right? 

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A value room. 
Those are going to go. 

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So yeah, the smaller the rooms 
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people want to stretch their 
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which I'm the complete opposite.
I love a good balcony. 

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So get me I won't like to stay 
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boardwalk view because to me 
that's part of the reason for 

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staying there. 
But other people are like, dude,

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I was, I booked that thing, that
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months on the dot and I was able
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parking lot view. 
So to each his own. 

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But yeah, definitely. 
The more you can stretch your 

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points out, the happier most 
people seem to be. 

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Jeff Panda, which camp do you 
guys find yourselves falling 

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into when it comes to this? 
Oh, Jeff's bougie One bedroom 

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book. 
Well, well, Amy just threw you 

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under the bus, so we'll come. 
Back to that, she does that at 

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least once a week and. 
Just like. 

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For the cheapest, I go for the 
lowest points if I can. 

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In the worst view, I just don't 
seem to care too much. 

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It matters who I'm going with 
and what I'm what my trip is 

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about. 
And that. 

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Like a party or a a park 
basically, and just stay 

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overnight. 
I don't. 

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And that that has definitely 
changed since we moved here. 

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When when we were traveling 
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bringing kids, grandkids, 
friends. 

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So we bought points with the 
mindset that it was gonna be 

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probably a two-bedroom when we 
came and and fewer trips. 

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Now that we're here, I'm like, 
I'm not using these points. 

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I booked a Granville at Old Key 
West this Sunday just for the 

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hell of it. 
So. 

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And you're inviting all of us, 
right? 

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And we're we're. 
Yeah, we get an invite. 

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It's it's Sunday. 
When were you going to tell us? 

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Right now. 
It was somewhere Where around 

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where you mentioned chicken. 
Next on on your list here, Amy. 

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It says high point seasons at 
Disney World are easier to book 

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than low point season. 
Right. 

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And that's that's actually the 
same with any, any resort. 

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So, but but high points at 
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something different. 
And we talked about this during 

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the Hilton Head show, right? 
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July and August, whereas the low
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But at Disney World, the higher 
points are going to be like in 

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the summer. 
October to December, yeah. 

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Yeah, well, those are the low 
points. 

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Yeah, October and December are 
lower at Disney World, so. 

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So the higher points are always 
a little easier to get. 

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So for example, when we got 
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window before we owned there, it
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stay in August than it would be 
to try to get and stay in like 

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September, October. 
The Halloween season is very 

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popular there. 
So just keep that in mind that 

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if you're willing to be a little
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being a little flexible with 
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have a greater opportunity of 
getting what you're looking for.

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And we get questions about this 
very frequently, but Disney 

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does. 
One of the reasons why we 

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monitor point charts year after 
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to kind of reallocate these a 
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And So what we have seen a 
little bit of a shift towards is

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you know that that summer season
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calming down a little bit in 
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And the popularity is increasing
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So July or basically September 
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been getting very busy. 
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recently on the point charts in 
which the point charts in that 

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season are kind of starting to 
creep up a little bit because 

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Disney is also monitoring that 
and that's how they control some

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of this, that's how they really 
monitor and control availability

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is by those subtle movements. 
So it's always something to that

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pay close attention to like they
they've done some crazy stuff 

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over the years, some of it not 
legal and some of it they've had

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to redo when it comes to point 
charts. 

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But you know that's that's one 
of the reasons that they do 

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monitor that and change that 
point chart year after year. 

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Speaking of point charts 
offseason at beach hotels are 

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easier to book than busy season.
You kind of covered that a 

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little bit. 
You know we we talked about Vero

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Beach, Hilton Head. 
You know that that time of the 

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year when everyone's on vacation
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Cheaper point rooms generally 
book first of course. 

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You know the as Derek said, the 

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worst views normally go first 
because they're the cheapest and

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and that's. 
I have two, like for example, my

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points are already gone, which 
they always are almost 

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immediately as soon as I get the
meaning. 

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I've already borrowed all them 
for next year for this year's 

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trips because I wound up not 
having with a son in college. 

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Now at Florida State, we had to 
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he's on vacation. 
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we used to get and milk, you 
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Christmas, we didn't. 
We couldn't do that this year, 

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so we had to go between 
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almost doubled the points. 
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Then on spring break, we're 
going to the Grand, I think in a

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week and a half, the Grand 
Floridian, just for two nights. 

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But it happened to be over 
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Saturday night. 
So all my points are like, poof,

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they're all gone, gone. 
Yeah. 

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So general rule of thumb that 
you've kind of outlined is book 

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at the 11 month window and then 
see what happens at seven 

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months, right? 
Yeah. 

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So you should always book your 
home resort at the 11 month 

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window unless unless you're it's
like completely not even where 

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you're planning on going. 
But if you're going to Disney 

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World and your home resort is a 
Disney World resort, you know, 

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you definitely book it at 11 
months and then at the seven 

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month window, that's when you 
can look to modify your stay 

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without actually, you know, 
losing the stay you have. 

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You can just simply modify it 
and and you know, possibly find 

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something that's going to give 
you the best shot at, you know, 

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obviously getting what you want 
is booking online 8:00 AM at the

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11 month window. 
If you are trying to get 

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something at the seven month 
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You want to be there. 
You want to be online at 8:00 AM

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at the seven month window, ready
to modify that stay or ready to 

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book. 
You know, whatever you're trying

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to get, that's not your home 
resort. 

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Well, and you're you're planning
that big Disney vacation and and

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you know Jeff, I know you've 
been there because you know you 

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recently moved here but you 
planned that big Disney vacation

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and you have to you, you kind of
lock in when you're going to go 

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far in advance. 
And so you've got to make sure 

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that you've got that room, 
especially if you're travelling 

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with, you know multiple family 
members or multiple families 

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like. 
And so it's like lock it in and 

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then you can be more flexible, 
you know, down the road like 

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that's that's my general 
experience. 

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Yeah, I tend to agree. 
You know, it's you always want 

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something. 
You can change it if you find 

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something better, but it's best 
to have something in the bag. 

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You know, Panda? 
You're security blanket. 

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So your home resort is your 
security blanket. 

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So I tell people all the time 
like book it. 

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Maybe you don't want to stay at 
Saratoga or you don't want to 

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stay at old Key West this trip. 
It doesn't matter. 

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Just book your dates. 
And then like you guys said too 

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at that seven month window is 
when the fun starts, right? 

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Because then you can go online 
saying, I don't know, I already 

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got this, so I already have my 
room that I needed for my dates 

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of when my flight is. 
But let me see what's available 

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and then you start talking to 
the friends and the family. 

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Hey, it looks like we could move
over to the Raleigh, or we could

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move over to this resort or that
resort. 

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So yeah, just always book your 
home resort. 

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Now Panda, I know we've talked 
about this before, you know you 

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you typically are a little bit 
more flexible, last minute 

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stays, that kind of stuff. 
Have you utilized the the seven 

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to 11 month window though for 
anything specific with your 

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family or anything? 
Never. 

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I just don't plan that far in 
advance for that kind of stuff. 

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But I've, I've been lucky 
because I I basically let the 

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resort to dictate where I'm 
going. 

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Because I'll say you know I want
to go at this time and I'll look

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around and I'll always find 
something when we get to Riviera

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at the end of this month I'm 
going to go to one of those 

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tower rooms and I'll it's really
interesting to me because I 

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found the the cheapest, I think 
it was like maybe 14 points for 

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a night. 
So we'll we'll talk about that 

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and what I plan to do with that 
and how I got it. 

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It was pretty easy. 
And then it looks like the last 

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that you kind of had on here 
less nights are easier to get. 

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Consider a split stay to lessen 
what you need at each resort. 

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And that kind of goes hand in 
hand with what what Panda just 

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kind of said. 
Yeah, obviously the the least 

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amount of nights that you need, 
the easier it is, right? 

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It's always easy to pick up like
one or two nights. 

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Picking up a whole week 
somewhere, especially somewhere 

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that isn't your home resort, is 
going to be a little more 

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difficult. 
So if you are looking to 

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possibly stay at a different 
resort and you have a long stay,

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it might be smart when you book 
your home resort to book it in 

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two chunks, right? 
So let's say it's seven nights, 

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book a four night and then a 
three night and then you can try

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to modify just one of those at a
time and you you could end up 

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with different resorts. 
But split days can be really 

449
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:44,880
fun. 
You know, you get a different 

450
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,800
scenery, you get a fresh room, 
you can move your resort around 

451
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040
and you could, you know focus on
those parks. 

452
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,760
So if you're staying at Bay Lake
or around the Monorail, maybe 

453
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,400
you focus on Magic Kingdom. 
Then if you're staying Epcot 

454
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,120
area next and you focus on Epcot
and Hollywood Studios or or you 

455
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,880
know, whatever. 
And then one last thing that 

456
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,760
that you skipped over. 
You should always if if you look

457
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,680
for something and it's not there
and you're within the booking 

458
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,920
range, you should always set 
wait list and you should also do

459
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040
what we called stalking the 
system which we talked about 

460
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,960
that on our vocabulary show. 
But basically you just check 

461
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,760
regularly throughout the day. 
Depending on how dedicated you 

462
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,120
are, it could be once a day, it 
could be a few times a day and 

463
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,440
check to see you know if that 
opens up for you. 

464
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,760
So let's go, Amy, go ahead. 
Just to just to go to Amy's 

465
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,400
point, in May I had BLT Bay Lake
tower, I think I had not lagoon 

466
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,920
view. 
I had the other side the Bay 

467
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,680
view and I wanted 4th of July to
see the fireworks. 

468
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,920
So I wait listed, you know tower
room Parkview. 

469
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:53,520
And sure enough it came through 
so you would think never. 

470
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,920
You're never gonna get 4th of 
July. 

471
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,080
You know Tower theme Parkview. 
I got it for two nights. 

472
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,960
That's a very hard 1 to get on, 
a very hard date to get it. 

473
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,240
So yeah, that, yeah. 
For sure. 

474
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,160
Congratulations. 
Yeah, that's, yeah. 

475
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,960
That's awesome. 
I'm I'm thinking a lot of people

476
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,160
thought not to wait list it 
because of the chances of 

477
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,520
getting it are none. 
So the people that did you know 

478
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,360
some of them got lucky like me. 
Yeah, I. 

479
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,520
Hear you can consider that the 
4th of July is my birthday. 

480
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,760
Oh, you know what room number 
you're in? 

481
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,600
I'll be knocking. 
OK. 

482
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,400
Is that this year? 
I was last? 

483
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,360
I had it. 
I had it. 

484
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,040
I had it. 
I. 

485
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840
Know I should try? 
I should try it, yeah. 

486
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,720
The expectation is set. 
Do it again I. 

487
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,480
Didn't know your birthday was 
the 4th of July? 

488
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,280
You get the best fireworks on 
your birthdays. 

489
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,320
Too. 
We celebrate you, Jeff. 

490
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,680
Thanks for that. 
Let's let's look a little bit 

491
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,880
into each resort now. 
Now that we've we've talked 

492
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,400
about this, why did Derek just 
show us a bucket hat again? 

493
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,720
I. 
Was giving him a hat for for his

494
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,560
birthday. 
Because I I appreciate. 

495
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,800
It I have. 2 already. 
Derek has a million of these at 

496
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,320
home and just I. 
Want to wear it for one of our 

497
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,960
shows? 
You should. 

498
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,520
Paul mows the grass in his. 
I do, yeah. 

499
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,360
It's a it's a great grass hat. 
It's one of those like you can 

500
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,200
wet it and then wring it out and
it's like a cooling hat. 

501
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,360
Derek, Did everyone at your 
house get one for Christmas this

502
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,600
year? 
Like, yes, yes, Soggy in the 

503
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,720
lobby. 
That is what he. 

504
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,000
Said when when Paul puts his on 
and gets ready to mow the grass,

505
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,440
he officially transforms into 
Florida man. 

506
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:27,240
So just so you know, like cut 
off T-shirt bucket that. 

507
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,960
Pull the black socks up to the 
knees. 

508
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,160
He slips into some sandals. 
Oh yeah, I could. 

509
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,800
Can I give somebody just a 
really quick tip before you jump

510
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280
into each resort? 
Anything you can get us off this

511
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,640
topic please? 
Yeah, for sure. 

512
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,840
Because I know we've got some 
friends that are kind of newer 

513
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,120
DVC members and they didn't 
realize that this was a thing. 

514
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:45,600
So we were talking about it the 
other night. 

515
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,960
When you go and like let's say 
you've you've looked at a week 

516
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,840
in the I want to stay this week 
at Boardwalk and it says sorry, 

517
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,360
no rooms are available. 
But if you click on the month 

518
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:59,640
like you the drop down that 
shows the month and it shows 

519
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,160
which days are available, make 
sure you do that because 

520
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,600
sometimes it's only one night 
that's not available. 

521
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,280
So book your like Amy was 
saying, book your first four or 

522
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160
five nights and the ones after 
wait list that one in the 

523
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,440
middle. 
Because one nights. 

524
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,480
A much easier one to wait list 
than three weekend nights, for 

525
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,800
example. 
So make sure you're looking at 

526
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,800
the calendar and seeing that 
it's actually not available for 

527
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,360
the whole time, because if it's 
one or two nights, that's a much

528
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,960
easier grab, right? 
And it's looking Jeff, you're 

529
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,160
right. 
I'm sorry. 

530
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,800
No, no, you're fine. 
It took me a long time to 

531
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,080
realize that you can also just 
modify the dates right there by 

532
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,960
clicking on that calendar. 
I didn't know that for probably 

533
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,680
three years. 
I'm pretty amazed at the power 

534
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,560
they've given us in the DVC, you
know, website when it works. 

535
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,600
So the the thing I did with the 
if we just go to Riviera, those 

536
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240
those tower rooms, they're like 
not even real rooms. 

537
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,760
There's no real bed. 
It's just pulled down. 

538
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960
It's tiny, but they're very 
little points and I wanted to 

539
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,680
get one. 
So I put in staying from March 

540
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,120
1st to March 31st, just like 
Jeff said, knowing I'm not going

541
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,280
to get, I didn't want a month 
worth of rooms, but that opened 

542
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,680
up the calendar for me to look 
at March, to say there's a night

543
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,040
that's available and just grab 
the night that I wanted. 

544
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,160
Again, I live here. 
It's flexible. 

545
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,440
I get it. 
Not everyone can do that, but if

546
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,360
you can, it's a great, it's a 
great tool. 

547
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,040
Yeah. 
If you're trying to build a 

548
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,920
vacation around an event, let's 
say food and wine or power and 

549
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,200
garden and you do have even if 
you're not local and you have 

550
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,800
flexibility, you're like I don't
care when I go, I want to go and

551
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,080
I want to stay here Boardwalk 
because it's close to Epcot. 

552
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,400
Then you know by by searching 
that broader date range and 

553
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,280
pulling up that calendar, that's
really going to show you any 

554
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,880
availability that that that 
could exist out there. 

555
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,400
And that's a that's a great tip 
Jeff, for sure. 

556
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,640
First up on our resorts list, 
Animal Kingdom and in terms of 

557
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,600
the hardest rooms to book at 
Animal Kingdom we've got down 

558
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,800
the club and value level rooms, 
which I will. 

559
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800
I will put a caveat on that and 
say those are the hardest rooms 

560
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,240
of all of DVC, probably to book.
Yeah, I don't. 

561
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,360
Does anybody know how many club 
level rooms there are? 

562
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,560
It's such a small amount. 
A handful. 

563
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,320
I I thought it was like either 
10 or something. 

564
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Like 6 they're. 
Only a jumbo, right? 

565
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,200
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

566
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,040
Yeah, I. 
Could ask. 

567
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,000
Concierge is fantastic. 
Yeah, and then the same thing, 

568
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,000
the same thing with and the 
other thing about Animal Kingdom

569
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,360
club level is it's the only club
level DVC that there is. 

570
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,840
So you know it's very popular. 
It's a very good value for the 

571
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,880
points compared to if you were 
buying club level hotel, you 

572
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,360
know cash. 
So and it's there's so few rooms

573
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,800
so those go very, very quickly 
and the value rooms are the 

574
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,240
same. 
There's like 10 of them. 

575
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,080
I think someone correct me if, 
you know, I think there's like 

576
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,960
ten sets of like 10 studios and 
then ten one bedrooms that can 

577
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,640
also be a two-bedroom lock off. 
I might that number might be off

578
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,760
by a little bit. 
Really it's it's a small amount.

579
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720
You hear value too, and people 
think that they're going to be 

580
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,200
incredibly different than the 
other properties we're talking 

581
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,400
about. 
Maybe a couple square feet less 

582
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,560
like they're they're very like. 
It's an unnoticeable amount and 

583
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,800
sometimes you can even get a 
Savannah view. 

584
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,160
You know some of them are 
Savannah View, some of them are 

585
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,560
Pole view and then actually the 
least amount of them our our 

586
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,360
parking lot view which we we got
when we played value roll at. 

587
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,080
And the real reason they're 
they're they're kind of labeled 

588
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,400
value is I think just based off 
of the location and based off of

589
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,080
not wanting to convert some of 
the standard hotel rooms that 

590
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,440
they had, it just made more 
sense for this area of the 

591
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,480
building to basically fall into 
that value category. 

592
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,440
But they are some of the 
hardest. 

593
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,520
Anybody know what the easiest 
category or the most like 

594
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,040
plentiful category at Animal 
Kingdom would be? 

595
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,200
Derek for a bucket hat go. 
I'm going to go with Savannah 

596
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,480
View GET. 
Get closer, I. 

597
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Forgot that we gave you guys 
the, you are right though there 

598
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,120
are way more Savannah views than
any any inventory at Animal 

599
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,280
Kingdom. 
So those are going to be your 

600
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640
easiest. 
If you're trying to get, you 

601
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,880
know. 
If you're just trying to get in 

602
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,680
there or wait list or. 
Yeah, this is the this is the 

603
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,440
next resort's the one that blows
me away. 

604
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,920
Hardest to get at Disney's 
Boardwalk Villas Standard View 

605
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,120
or Boardwalk View, but easiest 
to get is the Pool Garden View. 

606
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,520
I love the Pool Garden View. 
Like, I know I always take a 

607
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,120
gamble with it, but I absolutely
love it. 

608
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,640
He says that as someone who has 
only ever had a pool garden view

609
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,880
over village green, that is true
on the basically where he can 

610
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,200
see the boardwalk I. 
Request it every time. 

611
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,400
And we've done it every time. 
Yeah, we we failed it. 

612
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,480
Roulette on that one. 
Yeah, you've never survived if 

613
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,680
you've never survived having a 
pool garden view of the creepy 

614
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,760
clown slide. 
Boy, I tell you there's like. 

615
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Spaghetti O'Hare used. 
To have those. 

616
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,280
At night the eyes would glow up 
at night and sitting outside, it

617
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,000
was crazy. 
We've tried. 

618
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,240
We've tried twice to play a pool
garden, view roulette, and the 

619
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,720
first time we were on the 1st 
floor at the pool, so like, 

620
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280
everybody's walking past our 
room on the way to the pool, 

621
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,640
soggy and on their way to the 
lobby. 

622
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,080
The second time we were on the 
third floor and there was this 

623
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520
giant tree. 
There was no view. 

624
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,760
It was just a tree with kind of 
a little bit of hazy Tower of 

625
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Terror in the distance. 
I've heard of that view. 

626
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,280
That that tree was full of birds
and it's they am Oh man. 

627
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,240
The one of the best that I've 
seen recently over on the DFC 

628
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,080
fan Facebook group was a 
boardwalk view and it was a 

629
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,160
first floor I think it was and 
it was right next to the preview

630
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520
center. 
I'm here, but wait, it gets 

631
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,240
better because they took a 
picture and the food truck that 

632
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,040
are that are that are now coming
the food truck parked right in 

633
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,920
front of their room. 
I would ask for a new room or 

634
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,280
give me give me my points to to 
a standard give. 

635
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,880
Me. 
I'm not quite sure that that 

636
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,920
equates to a boardwalk. 
Hey. 

637
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Oh, what a shame. 
I didn't even think about the 

638
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,000
food truck blocking the view of 
some of those first floor rooms.

639
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Although I any any first floor 
situation I'm not a fan of. 

640
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Yeah, same. 
We used to always request when 

641
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,240
we used to stay at the boardwalk
and book you know far out 

642
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,960
because we flew down from 
Chicago, is we. 

643
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,480
It used to be a hiking app and I
know it still is. 

644
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,080
But those rooms all the way near
the Crest of the waves next to 

645
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,680
Jelly rolls have walk and a 
half. 

646
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,680
Like you know you might have to 
get a room just to sleep halfway

647
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,360
before you get to your actual. 
But it's so worth it because 

648
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,760
those views, you see everything,
you see the entire span of the 

649
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,600
whole entire boardwalk. 
You see fireworks every single 

650
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,880
night. 
So they all ended in 001 that I 

651
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,280
do. 
And you can see spaceship Earth 

652
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,040
from from those rooms as well, 
yeah. 

653
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,680
Next up, Beach Club. 
Hardest to get at Beach Club are

654
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,120
studios, historically. 
Pretty much everything. 

655
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Yeah, I feel like everything 
here. 

656
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Easiest to get one bedrooms, 
although you wrote still 

657
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,720
difficult but Beach Club is just
such a small resort that it's 

658
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,160
like if you don't book at 11 
months you you are playing 

659
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,920
roulette at that. 
At that time it is very hard. 

660
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Although our good friend Mandy, 
she she pieced together a good 

661
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,640
stay. 
But she pieced it together, 

662
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,720
literally one night at a time. 
One night at a time, stalking 

663
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,640
the system, checking day in, day
out, you know, But it happened. 

664
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,240
It, it can happen. 
So there is hope. 

665
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,240
And we have stayed at Beach Club
several times, but they've all 

666
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,280
been like single to two night, 
four night Max stays, you know 

667
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,360
what I mean? 
And. 

668
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,760
I've heard people have 
complained too that have stayed 

669
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200
at the beach club. 
Obviously not about the location

670
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520
because they're perfect or not 
about the pool, but it's always 

671
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,800
like, yeah, we got a bad room, 
you know, we had a horrible 

672
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,480
view. 
I don't think there's good views

673
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,480
at the beach club. 
I. 

674
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Don't think so either. 
Where the resort is built, 

675
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:23,040
you're literally going to sit on
your patio and watch people walk

676
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,719
by, like on their way to the 
park. 

677
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,920
So don't feel bad if you don't 
get a good view at the beach 

678
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,760
club, because there are none. 
I remember one of our first 

679
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,639
beach club stays. 
We got the coveted view. 

680
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,920
We we got a coveted view, but it
was also through a forest. 

681
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,800
Oh no, you're thinking the the 
first day we ever had, we got 

682
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,120
the view where you can see like 
the I think is it the land 

683
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,360
pavilion? 
Yeah, but it was. 

684
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,960
Like, no, There was a crane 
right in. 

685
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,600
Front it was a crane. 
I forgot it was a construction 

686
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,520
crane. 
But it's also like, even though 

687
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,240
it's like the perfect view at 
that resort, it's also you, you 

688
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,480
you go into it and you're like, 
this is great, I could see 

689
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,880
Epcot, I'll see fireworks and 
it's like you see like 1 spark 

690
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,640
come up over something every 5 
minutes. 

691
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,800
Yeah, we've watched fireworks. 
But it's so it's it's so 

692
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,360
thrilling to sit there for 5 
minutes. 

693
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,400
Oh, there's one like. 
Another thing about Beach Club 

694
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,640
too. 
At least the times that I've 

695
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,280
stayed there, I don't know what 
it is. 

696
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,920
But you know, last episode we 
talked about Hilton Head and how

697
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,840
spacious the balconies are. 
Balconies, the Beach club are 

698
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,960
like this big. 
There's no rocking chair 

699
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,760
there's. 
I don't know I I. 

700
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,400
Oh, beach club is like balcony 
roulette where you might get 

701
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,000
like this weird, you know, 
isosceles shaped balcony. 

702
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,760
There's a. 
Word you didn't expect to hear 

703
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,200
today, ladies and gentlemen. 
You might get a little square 

704
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,760
like. 
You're right, it's just so 

705
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,400
random. 
Do you remember on our one of 

706
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,560
our our. 
I think it was my birthday trip 

707
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,280
or your birthday trip to beach 
club? 

708
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,320
We stayed in a room and we 
looked down. 

709
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,840
This is also what's weird about 
it is we were in like a very 

710
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,360
tiny balcony. 
But we were if we looked 

711
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,720
straight down, there were giant 
balconies below us. 

712
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,040
So like, we were literally 
standing above people if they 

713
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,120
were on their balcony, yeah, but
there were two. 

714
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:12,000
We were on a corner and there 
were two balconies, but then 

715
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,240
there was this weird area where 
it was like a triangle of 

716
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:19,240
nothingness, but neither balcony
could get to it. 

717
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,680
Yeah, it was and. 
So it was like a time out zone. 

718
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,720
I felt like in between the two 
balconies I don't like. 

719
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,600
I don't know why they didn't. 
Open that up. 

720
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Why didn't they open that up to 
one of the sides? 

721
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,680
Like, it makes no sense. 
Unless they were like, oh, 

722
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,200
that's going to be the place 
where the person above you spits

723
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,640
or something. 
I have no idea. 

724
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,760
Like, but yeah, Beach Club's 
weird, That's. 

725
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,720
A new member. 
Lump yeah, I'm going to lump the

726
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,560
next two together because you 
know they kind of fall into the 

727
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,200
same categories. 
Copper Creek, Boulder Ridge, 

728
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,760
both at Wilderness Lodge, 
hardest to get at. 

729
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,720
Those properties are going to be
studios, easiest to get are 

730
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:01,120
going to be 1 bedrooms and I 
think I'll I'll take that a step

731
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,120
further with Copper Creek. 
And say Cabin. 

732
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,720
Well, copper, no, Copper Creek 
in general, just extremely hard 

733
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,880
for both studios. 
I would even say one bedroom, 2 

734
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,040
bedroom because of what the 
cabins have done. 

735
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,520
To that resort, right? 
Yeah. 

736
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,200
I don't think that the cabins 
are too, too hard to get except 

737
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,560
during like popular times, just 
because they cost so much and 

738
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,160
points. 
So a lot of people kind of stay 

739
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,360
away from those. 
And that's what's put the stress

740
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,040
I think on the, on the other 
properties there's as you know 

741
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,480
the the studios, the one 
bedrooms, 2 bedrooms. 

742
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,440
That's why everyone bought 
Copper Creek except for the rare

743
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,040
few that did buy for the cabins.
But you know the the cabins are 

744
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,280
what have kind of caused the 
biggest issue there. 

745
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,800
And then Boulder Ridge, 
beautiful property recently 

746
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,160
refurbished. 
The studios look great. 

747
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,480
The one we the one bedrooms look
great. 

748
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,760
You know, all of all of those 
are are amazing, but they fall 

749
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,280
into what would be kind of the 
standard when it comes to, you 

750
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,400
know, what we're seeing across 
the board with availability in 

751
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,000
in in in kind of what the what 
the rooms are doing next on the 

752
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,600
list Grand Floridian. 
And it's interesting you didn't 

753
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,240
go by room type here, you kind 
of went by the original 

754
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,600
buildings. 
So hardest to get are the 

755
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,920
original villas at the Grand 
Floridian. 

756
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,520
So the original building and the
easiest to get are the new 

757
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,560
resort studios as our dogs 
decide it's playtime. 

758
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,680
Hermie's favorite toy is this 
pink pony. 

759
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,280
This pink pony that came in a 
bark box that I thought we were 

760
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,640
going to give to our friends dog
Abby, but he likes it so much so

761
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,720
Paul's gonna have to take it off
him 'cause he's squeak again. 

762
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,920
Oh, big pony, there's. 
Pink Pony. 

763
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,360
Pink Pony. 
Does he want a bucket hat if I 

764
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:54,880
can get him a bucket? 
Hat Yeah, so Grand Floridian, 

765
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,040
basically. 
Grand Floridian used to be so 

766
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,160
hard to book. 
Do you guys remember before they

767
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,360
opened Big Pine Key, how 
difficult it was? 

768
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,840
And I remember that's why we 
bought points there and it was 

769
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,320
it was so hard. 
And then they opened up Big Pine

770
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,000
Key and I don't it's not as hard
anymore to get into Grand 

771
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Floridian, but it is hard to get
into those original villas and 

772
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,160
that's the Deluxe studios, the 
one bedrooms, the two bedrooms 

773
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,880
and the the three bedroom Grand 
villas. 

774
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,280
But the resort studios are 
definitely a lot easier, easier 

775
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,040
to get now. 
Yeah, because, I mean, you have 

776
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,440
10s of thousands of, if not more
points that are now floating 

777
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,120
around for people that are 
competing with just that 

778
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,800
original building. 
For the one bedrooms, for the 

779
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,600
two bedrooms, for the three 
bedrooms. 

780
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Studios are not that hard to 
come by and I prefer the new 

781
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,000
tower ones, you know, way better
than the original building just 

782
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,600
because of the location and all 
that. 

783
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,200
But you're still dealing with 
people that bought the Grand 

784
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,120
Floridian in that second phase. 
That said, we only want one 

785
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,600
bedroom when you want two 
bedrooms. 

786
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,720
But that building itself didn't 
get any bigger, so it still 

787
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:00,040
stayed the same prize as when it
was sold out. 

788
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,640
So. 
Derek, I will take everything 

789
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,120
you just said about the Grand 
Floridian and actually transfer 

790
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,280
it to our next resort, which is 
the Polynesian, because I think 

791
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,960
we're going to run into the same
problem there. 

792
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,840
Amy, you marked out on here. 
It's pretty easy in most 

793
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,240
situations to get the studio or 
the bungalows currently. 

794
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:21,240
Because it pretty much is all 
studios and then the bungalows 

795
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:25,040
are just so high in points that 
you know, unless you got them, 

796
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,560
you don't get it so. 
But that's going to change. 

797
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,800
If you know that this new resort
come, you know, the new tower 

798
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200
comes on and there's one 
bedrooms and there's two 

799
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960
bedrooms, then all of these 
people that have stayed in 

800
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,560
studios all these years are 
going to say, oh, I want, I want

801
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,600
into the one bedrooms, I want 
into the two bedrooms. 

802
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,000
And so you're going to run into 
the same exact problem that 

803
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,600
we're seeing over it at Grand 
Floridian, which is everyone's 

804
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,000
fighting over those one and two 
bedrooms, which for me, I'm fine

805
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,600
with, you know, I love studios. 
There's going to be some of the,

806
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,120
you know, resort studio or tower
studio type concepts in this 

807
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,000
resort as well, so those will be
available probably just as hard 

808
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,280
to get. 
As Panda has said, you know the 

809
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,320
the Tower studio at Riviera was 
as hard to get for him. 

810
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,720
But you know, hey, more studios 
for us and I don't know if 

811
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:13,400
anyone will stay in the 
bungalows at that point. 

812
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,680
Those will. 
Those will always be up for 

813
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,840
grabs. 
I have a quick question. 

814
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,920
Does Copper Creek or Boulder 
Ridge have Grand Villas? 

815
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,400
That's a great question. 
Copper Creek does have Grand 

816
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,440
Villas. 
Boulder Ridge and Beach Club do 

817
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,360
not. 
OK, I was just wondering if if 

818
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,680
Polly, because of the bungalows,
we're going to have a grand 

819
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,040
villa as well, so. 
I I it looks like it does look 

820
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,280
like that. 
I mean it it kind of the the 

821
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,520
overall design of that tower 
mimics a lot of what they did 

822
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,120
with Disneyland hotel. 
And so I think we're going to 

823
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,400
see maybe 234, you know very, 
very small number. 

824
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,080
But you know those top two 
floors or so are going to have 

825
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,600
those Grand Villas and they're 
only going to do that to boost 

826
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,960
what they can sell points wise 
of that resort. 

827
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,880
That's that's really where that 
you know the Grand Villas when 

828
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,320
you look at a point chart as a 
whole it makes up the total 

829
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,520
number of points per day per 
year for each each room in the 

830
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,080
building. 
And what is the best opportunity

831
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,320
while we, you know, we know it's
the Grand Villas, we've seen it 

832
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,240
with Polynesian and and Copper 
Creek. 

833
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,520
What they did was they inflated 
those charts by the bungalows 

834
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,040
and the cabins and so they they 
need something to eat up some 

835
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,960
points, they can sell some more 
and and and recoup the cost of 

836
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,720
building that resort. 
So that's what we'll probably 

837
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:33,520
see there. 
Jeff, just to answer your 

838
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,920
question to a refurbished Copper
Creek Grand Villa I think is 

839
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,400
like the flagship Grand Villa 
'cause it's different than all 

840
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,960
the others. 
It's really just yeah. 

841
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,240
Interesting. 
OK, cool. 

842
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,920
Next on our list, continuing 
around the monorail loop, we're 

843
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,920
back to Bay Lake Tower, Amy's 
favorite. 

844
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,720
I just love it. 
It's not my favorite, but I do 

845
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,240
love it. 
Hardest to get. 

846
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,560
There. 
Hardest to get there standard or

847
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,800
theme park view unless you're 
Panda and you luck out on that 

848
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,680
July 4th day. 
And then the easiest to get is 

849
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,520
the lake view. 
Well, and interestingly enough, 

850
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,240
out of all of the resorts, I 
think that we've talked about, 

851
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,280
if you're punting and have to 
settle for a lake view at Bay 

852
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,080
Lake Tower, that's not a bad 
settle like that. 

853
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,640
It's a beautiful view. 
Especially because if you can, 

854
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,880
if if you want to, you can just 
hop in the elevator and go up to

855
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,280
the observation deck or go to 
top of the World lounge and you 

856
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,440
can see the fireworks from 
there, so you've got the same. 

857
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:35,960
Yeah. 
And Lakeview, obviously it's 

858
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,280
because it has the most 
inventory at Bay Lake, but some 

859
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,320
of the lake view is on the 
inside of the horseshoe facing 

860
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,360
Bay Lake and some of them are 
actually on the other side. 

861
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,800
So some some Lake views do have 
theme park views. 

862
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,440
So. 
But that but that theme park 

863
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,080
view like during the day, which 
is what I tell people all too 

864
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,800
all the time. 
Like don't be sad if you don't 

865
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,520
get it because during the day 
it's almost like a parking lot 

866
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,280
view just because you see it all
the way to like the Magic 

867
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,840
Kingdom, it's parking lot, 
parking lot, but at night it's 

868
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,080
really really pretty. 
But I just don't think it's 

869
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,080
worth the points. 
I I would rather get a like view

870
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,320
if that's a beautiful. 
Scene for me, though, Derek, 

871
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,560
it's the sounds I'm telling you,
there's something about here in 

872
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,560
the and here in the Haunted 
Mansion. 

873
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,720
You can hear the howls from the 
your balcony, and there's just 

874
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,600
something magical about that 
whole spot. 

875
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,840
Good. 
Point I've. 

876
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,600
Never listened that intently 
that I could hear Haunted 

877
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,880
Mansion you. 
Can hear Haunted Mansion. 

878
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,280
You're hearing the next door, 
neighbors. 

879
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,480
No, no, I swear. 
You could hear the Haunted 

880
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,320
Mansion. 
You could hear the ferry boats 

881
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,640
obviously you just there's 
certain sounds of the of the 

882
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,920
lagoon that are just ah yeah, 
it's alive. 

883
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:49,400
It's alive when it comes to. 
Crazy point charts and views and

884
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,400
the most irregular thing we've 
ever seen. 

885
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,840
I have to put it on our next 
resort, which is Riviera. 

886
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,520
For Riviera, the hardest to get 
unless you're paying the Tower 

887
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,680
Studios or anything. 
That is. 

888
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,320
You heard how I got it. 
It wasn't special. 

889
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,280
I looked at a month, yeah, and 
said OK, I'll go this day. 

890
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,320
Yeah, you know but so the The 
Tower Studios, very hard to get 

891
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,080
very limited number of those 
available. 

892
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,480
But standard view is very 
difficult to get and this this 

893
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:24,200
is I think twofold, one, because
it's cheaper and two, because it

894
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,800
actually faces a park like it 
actually faces fireworks in most

895
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,120
scenarios, whereas the preferred
view is what I call the splash 

896
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:39,080
pad view or the the kind of lake
view and the point charts for 

897
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,960
those are outrageous. 
So most, I mean panda you're 

898
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,720
you're our resident Riviera 
owner. 

899
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Would you book a preferred view 
knowing what those cost per 

900
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,560
night with the points versus a 
standard view when you can see 

901
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Epcot and see fireworks? 
I'd go for standard first, but 

902
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,480
I've had the preferred view and 
I've had, you know, the the like

903
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,000
that they have out there and the
gondolas and it looks nice, it's

904
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,240
nice, it's nice. 
It is nice, peaceful it. 

905
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,560
Is nice if you get that view we 
we were over the splash pad but.

906
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,560
Yeah, we had the kids. 
Even the parking lot view, I 

907
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,520
didn't. 
I don't mind it at the Revere. 

908
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Everything seems nice there to 
me. 

909
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,520
We we rode out Hurricane Ian 
facing the parking lot and that 

910
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,000
was a that was a good time 
because we just watched this 

911
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,600
guy's Jeep fill up with water 
because he didn't have a top on 

912
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,640
it. 
So that was pretty great. 

913
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,680
We just filmed it like in time 
lapse. 

914
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,280
It was awesome. 
Not for him, but for us. 

915
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,880
That's. 
Pretty cool. 

916
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,640
We need this video, Jeff. 
We need this video. 

917
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
I feel bad. 
That's that's Patreon content. 

918
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,880
Really want to see the video? 
And and especially Jeff's 

919
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,800
probably commentary and the and 
reactions in the background of 

920
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,160
it. 
Also time lapse, so I don't 

921
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,400
think you get all that it'll. 
Be It'll be squeaky and fast, 

922
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,720
but you'll still get it, so 
it's. 

923
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:55,440
Gonna pay the price for. 
Not having a move? 

924
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,960
Rounding out the Walt Disney 
World properties? 

925
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,160
Old Key West Hardest Near 
Hospitality House. 

926
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,880
Easiest. 
The regular booking category You

927
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,360
know, agree. 
There's what, two buildings that

928
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,640
are The near Hospitality House, 
I believe, No. 

929
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,760
Clue. 
It's not very many. 

930
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,840
Two or three buildings that are 
categorized as near Hospitality 

931
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,960
house, which is near the the 
central location. 

932
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,040
So people there's no difference 
in points. 

933
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,120
So most people try to book those
first. 

934
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,040
They don't. 
They don't charge extra points 

935
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,920
like surge pricing to be near 
hospitality. 

936
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,680
House. 
No. 

937
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,320
So actually, why Derek might be 
able to shed more light on this.

938
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,680
I think this was just 
reactionary to them. 

939
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,000
I don't think this is actually 
how they originally came on. 

940
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,480
No, this is all reactionary, 
right? 

941
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,400
So it's whenever you talk about 
the point charts, it's always 

942
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,680
the phrase reallocation. 
So that's what legally it's 

943
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,560
called is reallocation because 
every resort has a total number 

944
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,160
of vacation club points assigned
to it. 

945
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,240
That total number can never ever
increase just like we said. 

946
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:57,800
So they can move stuff around 
like we've talked about. 

947
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,800
So you know that early December,
that time frame and now might be

948
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,200
a couple more points tonight 
then maybe during the summer's 

949
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,240
less, but I think that truly and
I could probably find out for 

950
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:09,880
short, but I think when they 
revised it, obviously the total 

951
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,760
number of points never changed 
but they just had so many people

952
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,880
requesting that we want to be 
near hospitality House that they

953
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,320
just made it it's own booking 
place. 

954
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,400
So yeah. 
Yeah, that was always my general

955
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,840
impression is so many people 
whether it be mobility related, 

956
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,560
you name it, but they wanna be 
closer to the amenities of the 

957
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,720
resort and so it was just easier
for them rather than to have 

958
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:35,200
this onslaught of a million 
requests. 

959
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:39,120
For that let's make it its own 
booking category and and make it

960
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,160
easy. 
But old Key West on the whole 

961
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,160
fairly easy to get into because 
it is one of the one of the 

962
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,240
larger properties and by far the
largest property at Walt Disney 

963
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:52,920
World When it comes to Disney 
Vacation Club Saratoga Springs 

964
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,480
hardest you wrote most are easy.
That is true, but studios in 

965
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,520
Grand Villas will go first in 
the standard. 

966
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,080
Category just because it's lost 
points. 

967
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,960
Standard usually goes first, 
even though it's usually easy, 

968
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,320
but you know they're if you're 
booking last minutes sometimes 

969
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Saratoga is gone. 
So usually if if it pops up, 

970
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,280
what we normally will see is 
like a preferred you know be 

971
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,200
more expensive points. 
But yeah, not much to say there.

972
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,240
And same thing there. 
Preferred's gonna be a little 

973
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,760
bit closer to the amenities and 
a little bit closer to Disney 

974
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,640
Springs and a lot of those 
elements too. 

975
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,960
So more points equals easier to 
get in most. 

976
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,280
I I think that's probably the 
general theme of the show. 

977
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,600
Yeah. 
Over the years, if we move real 

978
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,880
quick just to finish this off to
some of the properties that are 

979
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,000
outside of Walt Disney World, 
Aulani is a big one that a lot 

980
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,680
of people question. 
So we have a lot of owners that 

981
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,040
are Walt Disney World DVC owners
that are like, I want to go to 

982
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,920
Aulani, I want to do an Aulani 
vacation. 

983
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,560
You know, what are the odds of 
me getting in seven months? 

984
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,800
I don't know, Derek, You 
probably get that question just 

985
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,800
as much as we do. 
A lot, yeah. 

986
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,200
Yeah. 
And so. 

987
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,480
So the odds are pretty good. 
It's just during the busier 

988
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,760
times of year, especially maybe 
if you want like in Ocean View 

989
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,320
during Christmas week might be a
little bit hard at seven months 

990
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,400
out, yeah. 
Yeah, in general though, Ocean 

991
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,040
View can be one of the easier 
categories to get offseason just

992
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,280
again because of the point 
charts and and because of the 

993
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,640
cost it is to have that view. 
Right. 

994
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,040
And the hardest are those hotel 
rooms. 

995
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,880
And I I've heard, and I don't 
know if this is true or not, but

996
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,160
those came about because there's
only like what, six of them, 

997
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,160
it's it's some random, really 
small number value. 

998
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,560
They're very cheap on points. 
They're just, they're hotel 

999
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,600
rooms. 
And I always heard that they had

1000
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,400
taken out a grand villa to put 
in Alma. 

1001
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,320
Alma. 
Or is it is that the name of the

1002
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,800
AMMA, which is the specialty, 
you know, resort or the 

1003
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,120
specialty restaurant? 
And because they did that for 

1004
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,840
the hotel, the resort, the hotel
resort had to give something 

1005
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,280
back to DVC. 
So they gave them a handful of 

1006
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,560
hotel rooms to make up for that 
loss of that grand villa. 

1007
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,240
And that's why we have like 6 
random hotel rooms in the DVC 

1008
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,240
inventory. 
Interesting. 

1009
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:13,480
Interesting. 
Yeah, we knew it. 

1010
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,760
So they are the cheapest on 
points, they go very quickly by 

1011
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,720
owners and then then standard 
view is gonna go next. 

1012
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,040
But if I'm going clear to Hawaii
and flying for 11 hours, I'm 

1013
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,920
going to Ocean View. 
Though, unless you get sick and 

1014
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,680
then you settle for whatever 
room you can get. 

1015
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,480
We still can see the ocean, but.
Although pro tip, if you get the

1016
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,240
garden view you can often see 
the luau from your from your 

1017
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:40,720
room. 
That is true. 

1018
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,040
Then you. 
Don't have to pay $179 or 

1019
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,720
whatever it is. 
But nobody will throw you up 

1020
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:49,400
food. 
I love that Jeff's equation of 

1021
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,440
watching the luau from his 
balcony is the same as being 

1022
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,120
there drinking and eating. 
Like, are you stealing from it? 

1023
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,760
He's like instead of spending 
179, just sit and watch the 

1024
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,280
people. 
No. 

1025
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,600
Yeah. 
Go get the pizza from 

1026
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,800
downstairs, Bring up, have a way
better meal and still see the 

1027
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,880
luau you. 
Got to find out the 

1028
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,160
entertainment. 
Especially if you have a 

1029
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,320
two-bedroom and friends, that's.
Right. 

1030
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,400
Also off property we, I think we
touched on a lot of this in our 

1031
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,960
Hilton Head show and also in our
previous Vero Beach talks. 

1032
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:24,240
So both of these I kind of think
fall into the same realm which 

1033
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,600
is that Vero Beach and Hilton 
Head peak season that's going to

1034
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,600
be your hardest to get these 
these different properties, you 

1035
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,000
know, perfect summer vacation 
season. 

1036
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,760
You know it's going to be hard 
to go to the spring spring 

1037
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,400
break. 
Easiest is going to be offseason

1038
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,440
when most of us have have 
historically gone to some of 

1039
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,440
these properties at at Vero when
Amy and I recently went to 

1040
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:50,280
Hilton Head and and Derek will 
speak quickly to Vero Beach. 

1041
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,960
Those 3 bedroom beach cottages 
boy and and the in rooms 

1042
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,800
actually also they are they are 
the go to and and and ones that 

1043
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,440
most people want at Vero. 
But I think unless you own 

1044
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,560
there, they're pretty hard to 
get. 

1045
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,920
People will and our very own 
Webmaster doc recently bought 

1046
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,280
some Bureau Peach points for 
that exact same reason because 

1047
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,880
he wants to get the beach 
cottage. 

1048
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,400
Not every year but maybe every 
other year because there's not 

1049
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,600
many of them and the in rooms I 
think are a way better use of 

1050
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,320
points than the studios. 
I think the location in that 

1051
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,960
main building at Bureau with the
2 queen beds in it, you still 

1052
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,760
have a mini fridge, you still 
have you know the microwave, so 

1053
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,400
you still have that, but it's in
a much better location and a 

1054
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,120
great use of points. 
I have gotten a standard view, 

1055
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,320
which we just did in December, 
but I was able to see the ocean 

1056
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,000
if you kind of look over this 
way and stand on your tippy toes

1057
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,120
and all that. 
So even a regular standard view 

1058
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,040
in the in room is pretty, you 
know. 

1059
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,160
So yeah, you you can't go wrong 
either way. 

1060
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,000
Heading to the West Coast? 
Grand Californian Disneyland 

1061
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,240
Villas for the Grand Californian
you wrote down hardest to get 

1062
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,080
everything. 
Everything, but especially any. 

1063
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,560
Studios in Grand Villas because 
there's only two Grand Villas. 

1064
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,720
Studios in Grand Villas go 
first, they go at about, you 

1065
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:09,200
know, 8 O 1:00 AM and then eight
O 2:00 AM the one bedrooms go 

1066
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,920
and then there's nothing left 
and you know it. 

1067
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,120
Grand California is just you've 
got to own there to get in. 

1068
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,440
That is that has historically 
been the role there's been the 

1069
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,360
off off scenario where we're 
we're testament to that where we

1070
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,160
we somehow got. 
A studio. 

1071
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,560
A studio. 
And so again, if you stock the 

1072
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,200
system and and you kind of pay 
attention to what's going on. 

1073
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,360
But I did try and fail multiple 
mornings, so we had to be 

1074
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,400
flexible, You know what I mean? 
Tried and failed. 

1075
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,800
Try the next morning and failed.
And so our dates moved as the 

1076
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,640
time moves. 
So then we finally got it. 

1077
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,080
Got it. 
Got to be flexible. 

1078
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,840
And then Disneyland Villas. 
So far, from what we've seen, 

1079
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,320
the easiest to get are those 
preferred view rooms which make 

1080
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,880
up a lot of the resort. 
They've they've labeled a lot of

1081
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,440
them that that property the the 
preferred view studio and then 

1082
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,320
hardest Grand Villas. 
There's two when they when they 

1083
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,880
first opened there was one 
because the second one wasn't 

1084
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,840
ready. 1 bedrooms. 2 bedrooms, 
the duo studios, so like the 

1085
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,760
tower studio type concepts 
there. 

1086
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
And then those elusive garden 
studios that are down in the 

1087
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,160
pool area, which don't even 
attract me. 

1088
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,000
Like, I I think it's cool that 
they're like off to the side, 

1089
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,320
but I don't like that. 
They sit so low. 

1090
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,520
They sit so low and. 
You're probably loud from the. 

1091
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,680
Pool. 
Yeah, Like when we were there, I

1092
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,080
felt like I could look up at 
them and scream at the people on

1093
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,720
the 2nd. 
Balcony and just have a. 

1094
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,640
Conversation with them. 
So like yeah the privacy is is 

1095
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,200
is little to none but overall in
that resort the bigger problems 

1096
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,520
with you know no balconies on 
some of the some of the main 

1097
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,680
rooms and stuff like that. 
So, but you know it'll be 

1098
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,120
interesting to continue to watch
the Disneyland Villas as they 

1099
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:51,720
sell more and we as we see what 
the availability does there, if 

1100
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:55,800
you guys had to guess with new 
properties coming down the road.

1101
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,040
So we talked about Poly a little
bit in its own right. 

1102
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,800
The Poly Tower though, if you 
think about the tower 

1103
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,000
specifically, what is it? 
What is going to be hard to get 

1104
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,280
at the tower? 
Can I go? 

1105
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,240
Yeah, for a bucket hat go. 
Yeah, I literally was just going

1106
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,640
to bring this up and ask, 'cause
I know, obviously we're all 

1107
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,320
speculating at at this point, 
but I'm sitting here thinking 

1108
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,440
about it and thinking how many 
people love. 

1109
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,960
And I still cannot get over the 
fact that there's one DVC resort

1110
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,760
with a concierge level that I 
think the Polynesian has always 

1111
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,040
been famous for their concierge 
level. 

1112
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,000
I think it's what like King 
Kamehameha Club or something 

1113
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,320
close enough? 
It seems to me like it would be 

1114
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,800
such an absolute no brainer to 
include a concierge level club 

1115
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,840
as part of the new Polynesian 
town. 

1116
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,080
You don't have to have many 
rooms, but my God, is it 

1117
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,720
enticing for people to look to 
say okay God, There's a point 

1118
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,720
chart and there's gonna be a 
lounge and everything else 

1119
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:54,400
that's there, so I would 
personally love to see that. 

1120
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,120
I think the point chart itself 
is going to rival the Grand 

1121
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,200
Floridian 1, so I think the one 
bedrooms are going to be pretty 

1122
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,880
similar to the two bedrooms and 
the three bedrooms and whatnot. 

1123
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,520
But man, they'll be awesome if 
they could add a concierge 

1124
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,160
level. 
That would be cool. 

1125
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,520
Now I'm now now I'm just going 
to be hoping for the next six 

1126
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,680
months until. 
We launch something, Yeah, I 

1127
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,120
agree. 
I hadn't even thought of that, 

1128
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,640
yeah. 
If this paid out. 

1129
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,400
If if this pans out, this show 
will go down in history, Is 

1130
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,800
Derek the future teller? 
But you're right. 

1131
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,720
Like Grand Destino, Like top 
floor, like Grand Destino Lounge

1132
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,720
that you can see the park, yeah.
People pay an insane amount of 

1133
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,800
money for the original hotel 
rooms at the Polynesian Hotel to

1134
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,600
be part of that concierge level.
And I'm talking, I hear stories 

1135
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,800
all the time from people that 
started going there in the 70s. 

1136
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,640
They've never stayed anywhere 
else but concierge level at the 

1137
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,280
Polynesian. 
And if you've ever seen that 

1138
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,760
lounge, it's kind of got the 
two-story huge notes that look 

1139
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,440
the whole. 
Yeah, I look up in it from time 

1140
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,080
to time. 
It'd. 

1141
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,800
Be awesome. 
If they could do, they'd. 

1142
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,000
Be printing money. 
I used to. 

1143
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,920
I used to stay there for 9 
nights a year when I lived back 

1144
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,000
in New York and I would always 
get the Tonga. 

1145
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,880
Building with those with the 
concierge was great. 

1146
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,720
Wow. 
Do we think it was 100 and 170 

1147
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,640
dollars a night, 'cause I was a 
travel agent? 

1148
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,560
That was my discount, $170.00 an
hour. 

1149
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,160
Oh my. 
God, do we think that because of

1150
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,560
the way the Poly is designed 
that the one bedrooms actually 

1151
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,040
might be harder here because we 
already have so many studios? 

1152
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,520
And if they add a bunch more 
studios, like people that want 

1153
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,040
to stay at the Poly don't 
because there isn't a room 

1154
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,800
that's big enough for their 
family. 

1155
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,400
Oh, there are going to be 
studios also in the tower. 

1156
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,960
I thought the tower was just I. 
Would assume so, yeah. 

1157
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,240
Yeah based off of based off some
of the blueprints we've seen 

1158
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,560
there will definitely be lock 
offs at least and and you know 

1159
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,160
maybe some some dedicated and 
the duo or the tower type 

1160
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,640
studios as well. 
Jeff, my thought on that is 

1161
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,520
Polly's such a weird one because
it does. 

1162
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,840
I feel like Polly does attract 
some of the same clientele that 

1163
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,080
one bedrooms do because of how 
the bathroom layout is. 

1164
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,520
You know, the the room is a 
little bit bigger. 

1165
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,960
It's one of the bigger studios. 
I think on property you have the

1166
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,880
split bathroom concept, so 
there's a little bit more room. 

1167
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,440
Now are people going to 
obviously want a one bedroom 

1168
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,720
over that? 
Yes. 

1169
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,400
Like so I I completely agree 
that you know, the one bedrooms 

1170
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,520
that are going to be very 
difficult to get as are the two,

1171
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,640
the two bedrooms. 
But I do wonder like what does 

1172
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,440
it do for the the resort as a 
whole? 

1173
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,000
Because like it's like the the 
standard, but the real, the real

1174
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,280
comparison I think is gonna be 
looking at what they do with the

1175
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,240
studios in that tower compared 
to the existing studios, the 

1176
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,560
existing long houses. 
Like when we compare the split 

1177
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,120
bathroom concepts and 
everything. 

1178
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,880
So what what kind of space is 
there between those two and how 

1179
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,400
do those two categories maybe 
rival each other? 

1180
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,120
So I'd be, I'd be totally fine 
if they made the studios in the 

1181
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,720
new tower the same as the ones 
like at the Grand Floridian, 

1182
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,600
right. 
So you have your regular studios

1183
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,960
that you can get that have 
already been there, but but then

1184
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,160
if you want two dedicated queen 
beds, you know, then perfect, 

1185
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,200
then I got to stay in the tower,
you know, that's that's how I 

1186
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,240
would separate it. 
But they don't pay me for that. 

1187
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,400
Last but not least on the list, 
the cabins at Disney's Fort 

1188
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,720
Wilderness Resort. 
Now do we think the one bedroom 

1189
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,680
cabins or the one bedroom cabins
are going to be harder to book 

1190
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,640
at that? 
Property at Seasons for this 

1191
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,240
one. 
Yeah, Christmas. 

1192
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,360
And. 
Halloween are going to be hard. 

1193
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,560
I think they're going to have to
give them away the rest of the 

1194
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,960
year. 
I that's my prediction. 

1195
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,720
I don't think these are going to
do as well as anybody else 

1196
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,760
thinks. 
So that's I'm I'm going to die 

1197
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,560
on that hill. 
You heard it here first. 

1198
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,440
I hope Jeff is right, Easier for
us to book. 

1199
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,560
Right. 
Yeah. 

1200
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,240
They'll get so desperate they'll
let you have another dog. 

1201
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,240
That's the hill she's going to 
die on, so there we go. 

1202
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,400
You'll have a whole loop 
yourself. 

1203
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,120
Just Jeff Haslam in a whole 
entire loop. 

1204
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,560
He's going to be the only one 
staying there. 

1205
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,000
I love it. 
Well, hopefully we've taught you

1206
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,520
a thing or two about using your 
points this show and at least 

1207
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,720
giving you some ideas. 
We know we've we've gotten a lot

1208
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:16,840
of questions from members over 
over the time of just you know 

1209
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,160
can I get in here what are the 
odds of me getting in here and 

1210
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,080
that's a big question When 
people are looking at buying a a

1211
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,520
contract too is like OK this is 
what I'm thinking is it going to

1212
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,040
work out. 
And I think that's a great 

1213
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,000
question to ask and into those 
people that think on that level 

1214
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,720
when they are making that 
purchase are kind of getting 

1215
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:38,040
ahead of the game rather than I 
think a lot of people buy direct

1216
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,280
you know instinctively 
emotionally when they when 

1217
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,160
they're at the parks and then 
they have absolutely no clue 

1218
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,280
what they just got into. 
And so they don't realize that 

1219
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,880
what they were sold on in those 
in that in that presentation is 

1220
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,760
actually pretty hard to get 9 
times out of 10. 

1221
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,120
And so you know coming into it 
with a game plan, coming into 

1222
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,120
it, knowing some of this 
information about what the 

1223
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,520
availability is like at those 
properties can give you a step 

1224
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,360
up and hopefully make that 
vacation that you're planning 

1225
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,800
for you and your family a little
bit easier for you to get. 

1226
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,800
And as we've said, if you can be
flexible, I think that's the 

1227
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,080
number one thing is maybe when 
you have those family 

1228
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:23,960
conversations, kind of not 
necessarily put it into, hey, we

1229
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,880
want a vacation June 7th through
the 12th, How about, hey, we 

1230
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,360
want a vacation in June. 
Like if you can, if you can kind

1231
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,080
of be a little bit more 
flexible, it's going to really 

1232
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,760
open up the opportunities that 
you have available to you. 

1233
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,880
And then as always planning you 
know 12 months in advance so 

1234
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,880
that you're ready at 8:00 AM on 
on the 11 month window day so 

1235
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,440
that you can book what you need 
and then maybe play the game a 

1236
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,640
little bit as we get closer to 
07 month window. 

1237
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,200
Wait list in stock, Wait list in
stock. 

1238
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,080
And on that note, that's going 
to do it for this episode of the

1239
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,520
DVC show. 
We hope you all enjoyed it and 

1240
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,600
we will see you all next Monday.
