1 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,800 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of the DVC 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,100 show. Coming to you from the Bob 3 00:00:14,100 --> 00:00:16,100 Marley studio in Orlando. Florida. 4 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:19,700 I'm your host, Peter Warner, joined at the table this week by 5 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:23,000 my good friends, Paul Krieger, everybody, his lovely wife. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,400 Amy Gregor, hello. And joining us for the first 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,200 time from, are you from rental store? 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,500 We sell Market resale Market, BBC resale market.com. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,700 Myth Daddy, not skirt. Hi everyone. 10 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:37,000 Thank you for having me and back in the production of cook, our 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,200 own Big Fat Panda.com, A big fat Panda Johnson carry, how are you 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,200 guys? 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Okay. 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,300 Today we are going to talk about first of all, how long has it 37 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:23,100 been since? I've hosted one of these shows, 38 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:24,900 it's been like a year and a half, right? 39 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:30,900 Big November was November the last time I'm so honored that I 40 00:02:30,908 --> 00:02:35,000 get to be here. Welcome back party as well. 41 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,100 You should as well, you should know it's Forever since I said 42 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:40,000 here. Yeah, that's good. 43 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,100 That's good to be back. It's good to be back. 44 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:51,500 We're going to talk about the Disneyland Hotel DVC property 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,900 and the announcements that were made covering this. 46 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,500 Paul has been or the Villas at Disneyland, right? 47 00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:03,200 Yeah. I still call it the Disneyland 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,100 DVC Tower, but the Villas at Disneyland hotel. 49 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:14,400 Well, Paul has been following this very closely. 20 years for 50 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:19,600 feels like, so go ahead and let's get started. 51 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,800 First of all, what are we talking about with the rooms 52 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:30,900 looks like I was very surprised. That was my. 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,100 Why isn't it's not coming up? Very surprised, not a tremendous 54 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:43,400 amount of one and two bedroom? No, yeah, they really designed 55 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,800 this property. I think around the average 56 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Disneyland guess that's looking to maybe go for three or four 57 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,700 nights or something like that. So the bulk of this property is 58 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:55,800 really Studios or what they're also calling Duo Studios. 59 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,100 Now, I think the Disney Vacation Club just likes to confuse us 60 00:03:59,100 --> 00:04:03,000 with words sometimes, okay? Duo Studios. 61 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,700 This is basically the equivalent of the tower Studios that we 62 00:04:06,700 --> 00:04:08,500 have at Riviera. Yeah. 63 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:14,200 So rather than just calling them Tower Studios because they're in 64 00:04:14,208 --> 00:04:17,899 a tower because they're in the tower rather than doing that 65 00:04:17,899 --> 00:04:19,500 we're going to call them Duo Studios. 66 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:23,200 Like you said, just because just because we want to provide as 67 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,500 much confusion as possible when you're going through the booking 68 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:27,800 process and that actually has already caused confusion. 69 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,500 I'll get there in a little bit, but so yeah. 70 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:34,500 Bulk of the rooms. Over 250 Deluxe Studios 71 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:36,900 somewhere around 40 of the duo Studios. 72 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:39,600 Very small number of the one in Britain and two bedrooms. 73 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:45,200 So we 19 one bedroom. Villa has 22 bedroom Villas, and 74 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,700 to Grand Valley has two grand villains. 75 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:52,400 Yep, and those are going to be the the hard to hard to come by 76 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:55,200 rooms in this Resort. But boy. 77 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,000 Oh boy. Do they look beautiful? 78 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,600 So I think since the last time we provide an update on this, 79 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,900 we've gotten just a ton of new pictures, Years that we put into 80 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:08,600 an article on DVC fan.com and just the rooms themselves are 81 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,200 absolutely beautiful. You know, they have different 82 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:17,100 themes to each one from Fantasia Princess and the Frog sort of 83 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:18,800 you name it. It's all over the place. 84 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,100 But have you seen the pictures of the three bedrooms? 85 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:27,000 Those are absolutely insane. They have so it's two stories 86 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,800 similar to like, what we've seen now, normally at the picture and 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,200 be awake and things like that. The outdoor patio area is 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,200 absolutely wild. It's got a little fire pit out 89 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,200 there is what could go wrong with the fire until it's one of 90 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,200 the indoor/outdoor ones to, right? 91 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,900 Yeah. So it from the inside and enjoy 92 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:49,700 it from the balcony, as well orgeous. 93 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:51,700 Yeah. So like that is the the 94 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:53,600 penthouse of all Penthouse Suites. 95 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:58,400 That is going to be here at the Villas at the design and the 96 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,600 room designs themselves. Look and let's Make sure that 97 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,700 when we're editing this in post we put some of these pictures up 98 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:10,600 so people can say what we're talking about the room design, 99 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,500 the color scheme, these look absolutely gorgeous. 100 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,200 Yeah I think they absolutely gorgeous, they went with that 101 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,800 contemporary feel of a room but it's that subtle nod to Disney 102 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,100 that they're throwing into these rooms. 103 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:26,600 Now that I that I sort of like some people, some people want, 104 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,700 the more Disney upfront feel. But when you're looking at a 105 00:06:29,700 --> 00:06:32,600 Deluxe level property, like this, you're really looking for 106 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,700 something that provides that Deluxe feel. 107 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:37,500 So, I think they've balance the two here with these rooms pretty 108 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:39,300 now. Is there any IP in these rooms? 109 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,700 There is, yeah. So, we've got, you know, Frozen 110 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:45,000 Moana Fantasia. Princess and the Frog. 111 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,100 I feel like I'm forgetting some Jungle Book is in some of them. 112 00:06:48,300 --> 00:06:50,500 So, each one is a little bit different depending on the room 113 00:06:50,500 --> 00:06:53,300 category in the room. Type that you're booking, but 114 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:57,800 they've sort of just Gone. The gamut, in terms of all of 115 00:06:57,808 --> 00:07:00,000 the different options and most of the IP is going to be on the 116 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,400 artwork. And, and like, the Murphy Beds 117 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,600 when they come down, like, in the duo Studios, that's where 118 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,600 you see, like some of the artwork behind there but they're 119 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,000 not, it's not like in your face, you know, theming. 120 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,500 Yeah. I think Jungle Book in our 121 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,800 picture here right now. Yeah, very and very similar to 122 00:07:14,808 --> 00:07:17,100 what that like they did at Riviera that that was sort of 123 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:19,700 the awesome thing that they did at Riviera with the artwork 124 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:23,200 where it was like we still got the the, the Remy kitchen 125 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,300 painting that we have hung in our Kitchen and we've even had 126 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:29,000 family members tell us. Like, I didn't notice until like 127 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,100 a week later, so that Remy was sitting there with the bowl of 128 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:35,600 fruit on the painting. And so, I think it's cool that 129 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,100 they're sort of doing those aspects of things again. 130 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,600 I think there's two different camps of DVC owners that some 131 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,200 people love it. Some people hate it, but it's, 132 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:47,300 it's sort of combining The Best of Both Worlds, with those 133 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:49,500 Deluxe rooms and everything like that. 134 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,400 The real interesting thing that I think came out of the most 135 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,500 recent news that we received was We did finally pinpoint, what 136 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:00,800 are the room types? Going to be of these booking 137 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,100 categories. So we've got three room types 138 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:08,100 and I'm going to go in order of lowest price or lowest point 139 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:11,400 cost, we don't have Point charts just yet, but what we assume to 140 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,700 be lowest price. Lowest point car cost to the 141 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:17,100 most first is our standard view. So if you're looking for 142 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:21,000 streets, parking lots cars, that kind of stuff, that's going to 143 00:08:21,008 --> 00:08:24,100 be your standard view. It also says it features views 144 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:26,600 of gardens I don't know what that area. 145 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,200 It's probably going to be a garden with like a trash Shack. 146 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,900 Next guest I view of a garden like you have to look around the 147 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:36,400 hair to actually see the Garden Wall and Disney talk. 148 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,799 Anything that is grass is a garden. 149 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:43,200 It is like if you look at the boardwalk Garden View, anything 150 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,400 that's grass. Yes, sir weeds but don't get 151 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,200 that confused with what will say later here. 152 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:52,800 So then you've got preferred view, which is going to be the 153 00:08:52,808 --> 00:08:56,700 pool area, which again, I Love that we're calling a view of a 154 00:08:56,708 --> 00:09:00,300 pool and people swimming in a pool preferred view these days 155 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:04,100 for me it just doesn't do it. It goes back to the same Riviera 156 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:07,700 debate where I would more rather stay standard view at Riviera 157 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:11,100 because I'm watching fireworks versus staying preferred view 158 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:14,000 where I'm watching. A kids splash pad and Caribbean 159 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,100 Beach. It I just I feel like it's a 160 00:09:16,108 --> 00:09:20,600 little bit backwards but the incredibly weird thing is garden 161 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,800 View is actually going to be probably the most expensive 162 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,800 category at the Disneyland. Tower. 163 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:28,300 And that is because they have what they're calling these 164 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:32,200 garden pods that are right out next to the pool area. 165 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:35,600 And these rooms very small number of the rooms are going to 166 00:09:35,608 --> 00:09:38,300 be these Garden View rooms but they are going to be the only 167 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:42,600 rooms that really feature in the studio and Duo Studio category, 168 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:45,800 balconies. So, rest of the resort not going 169 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,700 to have balconies one and two bedrooms and the Grand Villas 170 00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:54,200 are but those Garden View. Yeah, it reminds me of it. 171 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,600 The building looks Like one of the garden Wing buildings of the 172 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Contemporary, so it's like two stories in height. 173 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,100 It looks a lot like it, like in shape. 174 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:06,400 And so it's kind of like, you got, you know, you look at the 175 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,800 Contemporary, you got like the main feature which is the a 176 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,900 frame and then you've got this Garden wig that I don't know. 177 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:14,800 Usually nobody really wants, you know, that doesn't choose that 178 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,400 as their first, they usually pick it because it's lower cost. 179 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,400 But here it's kind of flipped right? 180 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,500 Because these you know the cost wise when we called to get 181 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:26,700 pricing for the A, those were more expensive. 182 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:30,200 Probably because of the balcony. But, you know, it's like 50/50 183 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,300 shot. You're either going to be in a 184 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:36,200 balcony or you're going to be, you know, in a patio on ground 185 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,900 level, in some cases level with the pole, you're like basically 186 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:43,700 on the pool deck because if you look at the artwork, it looks 187 00:10:43,700 --> 00:10:46,500 like, you know, some of those balconies are like rape. 188 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:48,500 I like all the other chairs for the pole. 189 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,200 So I don't know if I would like that category or not. 190 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,100 If the balconies worth it, I think as members that's 191 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:56,700 something we need to kind of Get out of our heads because we're 192 00:10:56,700 --> 00:10:59,500 so used to having balconies in our rooms all the time. 193 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:02,400 And so this is going to be that one Resort that you really need 194 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,700 to think when you're booking that room, if that's something 195 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:07,200 that's important to you, you know, make sure that you you 196 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,000 choose that Garden View room because you're not going to have 197 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,200 a balcony and every room here. Yeah. 198 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,300 Now I know that they're already doing cash. 199 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:19,900 Bookings. When do they start selling this 200 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:23,300 like you know selling the contracts that is honestly the 201 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:26,500 million dollar question. And You know, we're filming 202 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:28,000 this. I think on a Thursday could 203 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,100 change between now. And next Monday, when this goes 204 00:11:31,100 --> 00:11:35,600 up as to what we know, we don't have an answer to that question. 205 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,700 Right now what it sounds like is that they're still going through 206 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:41,800 sort of a lot of the legislative parts of this. 207 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,800 The regulatory process of getting this timeshare approved 208 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,100 in all jurisdictions and things like that. 209 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:52,100 I have to imagine, I don't know from like a guide standpoint but 210 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:55,000 a lot of these guides that are in Florida probably have to get 211 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:59,100 a California license or get like reciprocity between both States. 212 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:01,700 Yes or no. If they're staying on property, 213 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:04,800 they can sell to them. But if they are calling from 214 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,300 home, yes they do have to have a California license. 215 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:10,300 So a lot of them, a lot of friends over there and they are 216 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:12,100 working on getting their license right now. 217 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:14,100 So yeah, it's big process. Yeah. 218 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:18,300 So I think all of those reasons they're sort of this is taking a 219 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:21,400 little bit longer than they thought which is why they sort 220 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,200 of said hey let's just release cash. 221 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,200 Bookings honestly. And No, people are going to hate 222 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,200 to hear this. I don't think we see this now 223 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,700 until maybe another couple months or so in terms of on sale 224 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,600 and getting Point charts and things like that. 225 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,700 And I have to actually wonder whether or not, they're going to 226 00:12:39,708 --> 00:12:43,700 let people book with points until early 2024 at this point. 227 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:46,600 Just based off the success that I think they saw with the cash 228 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,500 sales. They saw tremendous amount of 229 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:51,500 people call-in, basically it broke the phone lines that first 230 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:55,000 day. You know, we got lucky because I 231 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:58,400 I called in and press to which was if you were calling for the 232 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,900 Disneyland Resort specifically, whereas most people pressed one. 233 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,900 And then once you got through to that cast member with member 234 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:07,300 services, they said, okay, let me push you over to the right 235 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:10,800 department and then it was an hour it was like 150 minute, 236 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,200 wait, or something like that. That was quoted for some people 237 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,600 over there. So somehow I wiggled my way 238 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,800 through and we got, we got two nights in a preferred Deluxe 239 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,500 studio for the the opening two nights at the resort. 240 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:27,500 So super excited to check that out but Yeah, I wonder if 241 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,700 they've seen so much guys. How much did that cost you? 242 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:36,400 Uh-huh, a lot of money. So the the preferred view Deluxe 243 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,700 studio is currently at 990 450 at night. 244 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:46,600 I know, don't remind me, no, but Pete never get sticker shock. 245 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:51,600 If you ever wanted to know why his DVC member, hold on. 246 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:58,700 These rat bastards are charged and a thousand dollars, a night 247 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:01,700 for an F in studio. Yeah. 248 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,400 And so and I think the part that like drives me crazy, and a lot 249 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,900 of members to is that there was no release of information on 250 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:14,400 what pricing to expect. So, it was basically, like, you 251 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,900 have to call and hope you get through. 252 00:14:16,900 --> 00:14:20,300 And then you have to literally, we had to check one at a time, 253 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:22,400 right? So he's like, okay, what's how 254 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,100 about this one? And then she would go back. 255 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,600 Back and put us on, hold and go and look and see if there's 256 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,200 availability and see what the price was. 257 00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:31,500 So they actually a lot of the phone line issues were because a 258 00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:35,100 lot of people called heard the pricing and was like, oh never 259 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:37,500 mind. But I think that if they had 260 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:41,100 released some sort of chart or information ahead of time 261 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,800 because some people were saying there again, DVC discount, some 262 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,800 people said that there were no TVs in a discount. 263 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,300 There was just a lot of confusion. 264 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:50,200 We might have paid more than some other people that we don't 265 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,800 know. But yeah, I do agree. 266 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,300 The pricing is Astronomical. So was there a DVC discount? 267 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,300 Not that I know nothing I know of and now that General cash 268 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:04,600 bookings have started, you know, it is a general cash booking. 269 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,200 So it goes with the standard cancellation protocol and stuff 270 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,900 like that. So we can cancel up to however 271 00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:12,600 many done to get this cash booking. 272 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,000 You've got a call in to member services or is it available 273 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 online? It is available now for General 274 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 booking so you can book with a travel agent dreams, unlimited 275 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,500 travel.com. You can get a get a quote from 276 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:25,400 them. And get a cash booking through 277 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,600 them. Now, the first initial launch 278 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,700 was the first day it became available. 279 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:32,300 It was just members by calling member services. 280 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,500 The next day it was magic key holders which is the annual Pass 281 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:38,200 Program in California. Those people had to call in to 282 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,000 book and then finally it went oh I wonder if I'll have to call in 283 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:49,000 and say I wonder if you know what you're looking at is an 284 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,700 opening that price that's inflated, right? 285 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:56,300 I'm hope and that, you know, We're talking about March of 286 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:58,800 next year. We're looking at something a 287 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,200 little more reasonable, but a thousand dollars a night on a 288 00:16:02,208 --> 00:16:05,200 studio, I can only imagine what a one-bedroom is going to go 289 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,500 for, or the grand villa, for the grand. 290 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:09,500 Villa forget it. I mean, that's more than Grand 291 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:11,100 cow. Yeah. 292 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:14,800 The so yeah, one bedroom Villa. Yeah, the price that we got for 293 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,100 one bedroom was 1,000 205, which is surprising, because that's 294 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:21,400 not too much higher than the dog studio and you're getting a 295 00:16:21,408 --> 00:16:25,700 decent amount more room for an extra, Two bucks, two bedroom, 296 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:32,000 Villa 2003, 87 and then I didn't get pricing on a grand villa, 297 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,800 but I think someone posted it. It was like four to five 298 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,400 thousand. Yeah. 299 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,800 And and I have seen people say that the Granville is were still 300 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,800 available for opening night, which means that most people 301 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,400 would get that. Probably get that price and was 302 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,000 like, never mind. Oh yeah. 303 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,700 So even though I think once points are in play, it's going 304 00:16:50,700 --> 00:16:54,300 to start selling out. I think for the Cash Time it's 305 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:56,900 just way above what most people are willing to pay. 306 00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:59,400 I will fully admit that I'm completely insane for paying 307 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,800 that price, but I have to be there, have to follow, gotta be, 308 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,800 I gotta see it. But yeah, so, cash. 309 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,099 Bookings are now available when again, it's the million-dollar 310 00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:16,599 question, we literally have people that are messaging us you 311 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:21,000 know, posts on DVC fan every single day saying when is this 312 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 going to be available? When are we going to get Point 313 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,800 charts? When is it going to go on sale? 314 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,700 And unfortunately, we just don't know until they sort of get 315 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:32,400 through those legislation because I'm very surprised that 316 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:40,000 if this is opening September 28th, Of this year 2023 when I'm 317 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,400 talking about. Next year jumping September 318 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,000 28th. This still not selling it. 319 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:51,700 Normally normally there's a six-month window before opening 320 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,700 that they start selling it so maybe they had like you said 321 00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:01,400 some kind of legislative snack because we have to remember 322 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,200 everything in California is a little bit more difficult and 323 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,700 takes a little bit more time. There's a lot of laws, a lot of 324 00:18:06,700 --> 00:18:17,800 rules. that they don't Republican California but I I 325 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,200 don't know, I'm excited about it. 326 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:25,000 I'm excited about it. And look, unless you buy a 327 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,300 contract there, And have an 11-month booking window or you 328 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:32,200 pay cash. You're not staying there. 329 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:38,400 Don't think for a second. That your points are going to 330 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,100 work here. And just a reminder this is a 331 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:44,700 new DVC Resort. So only points purchase directly 332 00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:48,000 through Disney are going to be able to be used at this Resort. 333 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:52,200 It's like same as Riviera, you can't use your resale points to 334 00:18:52,200 --> 00:19:02,500 stay here. but, I don't know. Yeah, it's going to be, it's 335 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:05,600 going to be fun for us. I think it goes back to why we 336 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,900 bought Grand cow. When we bought Grand cal, is 337 00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:11,000 that, you know, we still like the Allure of the Grand 338 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,300 Californian. It's a smaller property, it has 339 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:18,500 charm to it and stuff like that. Not that this doesn't. 340 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:21,500 But those are the real reasons why we ended up buying their 341 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:23,300 rather than waiting for the Disney guaranteed. 342 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:26,600 A balcony guarantee. No, sir proximity. 343 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Yeah I mean you want to talk about problems? 344 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,200 Booking, you know these Garden View or garden rooms, those are 345 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,300 going to go like hotcakes at the 11 month window and for anyone 346 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,900 that is out there, currently that does have points that are 347 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:43,200 eligible to book across all properties. 348 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,300 So again, as Pete said, it's sort of going to be that same as 349 00:19:46,300 --> 00:19:49,900 Riviera standards right now, we assume that it's going to have 350 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:52,100 the same sort of resale restriction. 351 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,200 Again, a lot of this is not fully been released, but the 352 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,300 greatest point in which you're going to have to book is 353 00:19:58,300 --> 00:20:02,000 probably this first. Year of booking in which there's 354 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,900 going to be a little bit more availability because they are 355 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:07,400 selling. So, once they declare inventory 356 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,100 into the rooms, they might not have sold that much inventory 357 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:14,000 just yet. So they'll still have a little 358 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,500 bit more availability than otherwise. 359 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:18,300 So I'd say, if you're on the fence about it, keep an eye on 360 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:21,000 bookings as they open up in the first year or so, that's going 361 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,800 to be your best opportunity. But to your point, once this 362 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,300 sells out it's going to, it's going to be like the grand cow. 363 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:27,500 It's going to be like those other property. 364 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:31,100 No to my surprise. The price per point that they're 365 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:35,700 announcing is what to we don't have a full answer. 366 00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:38,300 Estimate is probably going to come in somewhere around 367 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:41,400 somewhere around 227, which is 25. 368 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,500 Yeah. So it's looking at potentially 369 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:46,100 going to be about a 10 dollar per Point. 370 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:48,800 Jump from where they're sitting right now granted that's before 371 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,600 any incentives or anything like that. 372 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,800 So it's coming in you could go back across like I think like 10 373 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,800 of our shows or something like that where we've made 374 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,300 predictions on. On all of this I think 375 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:04,400 originally we were predicting somewhere like 250 275 so these 376 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,400 are predicted over 3 and we were we were we was gonna be over 377 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,100 threat. Well it depends on also how long 378 00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:13,500 they wait I mean if there's like two more price increases by that 379 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:21,600 time and who knows you know? Anybody at the table planning to 380 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,400 buy in there? No, that ship sailed for us. 381 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:30,300 And you know what else? I wonder like looking at the 382 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:34,000 inventory like there's only, you know, 19 one bedroom. 383 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,200 There's only twenty two bedrooms. 384 00:21:36,700 --> 00:21:40,700 If you have a family of five or more, a studio is not going to 385 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:43,200 work for you because they only sleep for. 386 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:47,100 So you're stuck with smaller, inventory. 387 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:50,600 And I wonder if that's going to deter some From purchasing. 388 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Now this is going to be a resort where the 11 month window is 389 00:21:54,600 --> 00:22:00,400 going to be critical critical with that with a small number of 390 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,200 11 two-bedroom units. Yeah but Amy you're absolutely 391 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,900 right. I mean people need that extra 392 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:10,000 bit. I mean that is huge for a lot of 393 00:22:10,008 --> 00:22:14,200 families that have five people and their family or you know 394 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:17,800 just want that extra room that extra bed is huge. 395 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,200 It makes or breaks it for a lot of families now Now, how long do 396 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,500 you think before we lie LS? Give this town again. 397 00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:29,600 How long do you think before we see resale contracts? 398 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,400 Well, I think also that will depend on the restrictions as 399 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,200 well, right? Like I mean, they haven't 400 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,800 announced that. So, we're crossing our fingers, 401 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,700 but I mean, I don't know it. We, yeah, we saw our first 402 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:47,600 Riviera resale contract before riviere opened, but that's, but 403 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,300 they were obviously selling it first. 404 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,900 So this is a difference. Uh, you always hate to talk 405 00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:56,300 about it but obviously something like real bad probably had to 406 00:22:56,308 --> 00:22:58,700 happen was like one of those earlier Liars or something like 407 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:00,100 that. But we did. 408 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:02,300 I think we did see like the first Riviera's. 409 00:23:02,300 --> 00:23:06,100 But again, like even at that point it was kind of like no one 410 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:07,700 knew where the pricing should be. 411 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:10,700 So if you watch the Riviera price for the first six months 412 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:14,200 or so in terms of resale prices it was up down left, right? 413 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,700 No one really had a gauge as to where it was going to sort of 414 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:19,100 settle into for that. I think what we're going to see 415 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,300 here. Also is everyone's going to be 416 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:24,400 Super excited about this California Resort, right. 417 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,800 We had Grand cal and it's been this, you know, anomaly out on 418 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,100 the west coast that is just so hard to book into. 419 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,400 And so you're going to have a lot of people really excited 420 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,000 about this California Resort they're going to jump on it and 421 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,100 then they're going to be like, well actually how often do I go 422 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:42,800 out to California? I live on the east coast, maybe 423 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,100 I might go out there once every you know, however many years and 424 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:49,800 so maybe having that booking priority isn't as important as I 425 00:23:49,808 --> 00:23:53,200 thought it was, you know? I'm not gonna lie, I got super 426 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,400 excited about, I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna buy in there and I'm, 427 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,400 like, I've been to California, Disneyland, California. 428 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,600 Once I just went there, actually for the first time last year. 429 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,300 So really how often am I going to use that? 430 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:06,900 It's going to be, you know, much more to my advantage to buy 431 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:08,500 something over here at Walt Disney World. 432 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:12,000 So I think maybe we might see some sales from Mom and I 433 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,800 haven't been recently, but generally speaking about, 434 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,300 they're quite a bit, and I had considered buying in on this 435 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:21,900 one, it when it comes up with. Sale. 436 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:25,600 Now, it remains to be seen. I may still do that as of right 437 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,300 now. No, as of right now, I look at 438 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:34,700 the number of points I have and I'm like, I'm good, I'm good. 439 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:42,600 I as it is, as it is, I'm struggling, do something with 440 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,700 these points and I really should just start writing them out. 441 00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:51,200 That's an option is probably what I should do. 442 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,900 Yeah, but I think that's going to be the thought process for 443 00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:57,600 everybody, you know? Like that initial excitement and 444 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,800 then it's like, okay, let's just take a step back for a second. 445 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,700 Know how much am I going to really use this? 446 00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:04,400 We, we did that. We walk rank. 447 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,000 How we were, like, just there, like, right around when we close 448 00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:12,700 and then we were like, oh crap, we have points that we gotta use 449 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,100 them or we're gonna end up losing them. 450 00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:17,100 And so, we ended up running a grande cap reservation out 451 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:19,700 through rental store. Just because we were like, 452 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:21,400 there's no way we can make it back. 453 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Between now and then you know what I mean? 454 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,900 And now we got a cash booking. It doesn't hour or so now I'm 455 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,800 like, are we going to use our next Grant cow points? 456 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,800 So yeah, I love, I love having, you know, points there. 457 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,200 And then the other thing about this new land is you don't need 458 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800 as many points because you don't need as many days. 459 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,100 That's Jimmy, you don't, you don't typically go go out for 460 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:47,100 like a week or so, some might, but like for us, you know, like 461 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:50,600 four nights or so is usually pretty good for a Disneyland 462 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,000 trip. You know, for a while longer, 463 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,600 don't you I'm usually out there for ya when I'm out there. 464 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,100 I'm, I'm usually out there for a while. 465 00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:00,200 I feel like the point charts, May say something different when 466 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,800 we get there. I think these Point charts will 467 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,200 probably be inflated from Riviera standards, most likely. 468 00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:07,900 And that's going to be some Hefty Point charts. 469 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,300 And let's not forget, I think Riviera is a great comparison 470 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:15,000 for this Resort. 300 rooms, 300 rooms. 471 00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:20,200 This is going to be on par with the size of Riviera, in terms of 472 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,600 the number of points available. In the number of points that are 473 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,600 going to be able to be sold for this Resort and I think that's 474 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,500 going to be very telling in terms of its sales, there's a 475 00:26:28,508 --> 00:26:30,500 lot of people that are like this is going to sell out. 476 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:36,900 I saw some person right that someone some some sales person 477 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:39,500 at a kiosk said that they never even thought it was going to get 478 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,600 the general sales or something like that. 479 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,900 And I'm first off don't put a grain of salt into any of those 480 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:48,100 rumors or anything like that. But I think that most people 481 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,600 will be surprised with how long this is on sale. 482 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:53,600 Dale. I think this will be on sale for 483 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,300 a lot longer than a lot of people think really, for all of 484 00:26:56,300 --> 00:27:00,600 these reasons that you guys are saying in terms of, you know, 485 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,600 people reconsidering it. And also, when you look at the 486 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,400 market, how are, how are you going to? 487 00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:09,700 And I mean, I don't know if you were selling when Grand cow was 488 00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:11,600 selling at all or anything. Yeah. 489 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,800 But in terms of like, you know, you look back, historically 490 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,100 Grand cow struggled with its sales and I have to imagine if I 491 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:22,100 was a sales guy doubt here in Florida, That's going to be a 492 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,800 tough sell to really sell someone on Disneyland. 493 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,900 If they've if they're just here for their family, Walt Disney 494 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:31,000 World trip that they do every year. 495 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,500 How are you going to sell someone on Disney Vacation Club 496 00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:35,200 property? That's out California. 497 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,600 I think that it's going to be for sale a lot longer than a lot 498 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,800 of people. I mean, there's there's people 499 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:45,400 like us who know, who know a lot about the VC and, and that want 500 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,800 to purchase in our reading of the waiting and calling their 501 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,900 guide and telling them like you know, don't forget about me, 502 00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:53,000 don't forget about me but I I think the bulk of their sales 503 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,200 and Danny you, you were a guy for a long time, are from those, 504 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,800 like, newer families, right? That aren't already members, it 505 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,900 just are starting to enjoy Disney. 506 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,700 And that's where a lot of their sales come from. 507 00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:06,600 And so, you're right. It would be, it would be kind of 508 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,400 challenging from Florida to sell those people and most of those 509 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,000 people want to vacation in Disney World. 510 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:17,000 I mean, like here with every Resort you're always going to 511 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,800 have that initial like excitement. 512 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,100 I mean I can't tell you when Riviera was announced you know 513 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:26,400 and we were selling Copper Creek at the time was live and you 514 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,400 know we knew Riviera was going to be the next property. 515 00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:31,000 Everyone was like oh I'm gonna wait I'm gonna wait I'm going to 516 00:28:31,008 --> 00:28:33,400 wait for a Riviera you know I want this new resort then 517 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,900 Riviera came out and they're like it's pretty expensive. 518 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,200 I don't like the resale restrictions. 519 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,800 I think I'm gonna go with Copper Creek or Saratoga even, you 520 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,300 know. And so you always have that with 521 00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:49,300 every Resort and then now we're talking about this Resort that's 522 00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:52,400 on the complete opposite side. Side of the country. 523 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,600 So you're going to have, you know, those different objections 524 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,000 that you're going to face as well. 525 00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:06,500 Oh, I also, you know, we've talked about this a lot, how 526 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:12,700 these will appreciate Overtime. Take a look at what happened 527 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:15,800 with Grand Californian. Grand Californian introduced. 528 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,900 It was 70. Some odd dollars, appoint. 529 00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:22,600 Yeah. And now your average contract 530 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:29,600 269 247 to 46. You know, you're talking about 531 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,600 250 dollars a point now. I think the same thing is going 532 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,100 to happen and I'm not a financial advisor and share and 533 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:43,500 this is a disclaimer. I'm just sharing my opinion. 534 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:47,700 I could be completely full of crap and not know what I'm 535 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:52,700 talking about. But my personal opinion, my 536 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:56,300 personal opinion is that these going to appreciate in value 537 00:29:56,300 --> 00:30:00,500 rapidly. You know whether or not they 538 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,800 will see the same type of growth that grin California. 539 00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,100 Did I depth? You know? 540 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:11,900 Introducing is 70 some of those a point versus $240 a point. 541 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,000 It's a very different story is a very different story. 542 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:20,700 I don't think these are going to go up to five $600 a point, but 543 00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:23,100 I think they will appreciate quickly and I think it will sell 544 00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:24,700 out faster than what you're saying. 545 00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:30,600 I think it will sell out faster. Got to remember the Southern 546 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,100 California audience. It's not about Out, the East 547 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,900 Coast here. It's not about the East Coast 548 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,700 because yeah, look look, a Lonnie is still for sale. 549 00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:45,700 Okay. Oh, Lonnie is still for sale 550 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:49,500 because people from the East Coast, do not want to take that 551 00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:51,300 trip. Okay. 552 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,800 And you have a lot of people that own it Aulani that are from 553 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,900 the West Coast now. But I own it Aulani because I 554 00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,100 got an incredible deal on those points. 555 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,600 An incredible deal on those points. 556 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:08,300 There is a part of me tempted to buy in, but I don't think I can 557 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:11,500 I don't know. I can't spend the points I have 558 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,200 now. I think we should all take bets 559 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,900 on whether he is going to rise and Willow and when it opens 560 00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:21,300 like that is usually like some of the lowest pricing. 561 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,600 You mean you will see in a really long time until it starts 562 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,000 like going down and in the ears that are left and we saw that 563 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,900 with you know, Grand Floridian direct and a lot of others. 564 00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:36,800 So you know, maybe it is worth buying and then selling later 565 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,400 down the road when it when it makes more money. 566 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,200 But just by Grant County also not a financial advisor. 567 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:43,600 Yeah. Or just by crank out. 568 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,100 So you don't have the restrictions. 569 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,900 There you go. Yeah, yeah. 570 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:50,900 And that's another point to the. The pricing is what those if 571 00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:53,200 those restrictions do carry over from Riviera. 572 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,300 Which again, we've not seen, you know, the point of sale 573 00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:58,300 agreement or anything that's going to we say, said, with 574 00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:01,400 Riviera that, all future resorts are going to have these 575 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,100 restrictions. So I don't see any way. 576 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,700 Anyway that they don't I don't see any way that they don't have 577 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:14,600 the restrictions attached. Yeah, I mean look really bad on 578 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,700 Riviera if they didn't, you know. 579 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:22,700 Well I will be honest because I was there when it happened and 580 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:29,600 there was a lot of debate. I mean it caused a lot of talk 581 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,200 behind the scenes. So I mean, I'm very curious. 582 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,700 I mean, what do you mean? Well, members were really not. 583 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,100 Not happy about the restrictions because I still, I mean, why do 584 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:43,400 you buy DVC versus any other timeshare out there? 585 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,000 It's like you have that peace of mind. 586 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,400 You know that you're you know, your purchase is going to be 587 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,300 valuable down the road and if God forbid, anything were to 588 00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:55,100 happen, you could always turn around and sell it, and it has 589 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,500 that value. And people were even people that 590 00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,000 bought direct obviously, you know, they wanted that piece of 591 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,100 mind that if they ever needed to sell it that they could and we 592 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:06,200 didn't know what was going to happen with the resale value. 593 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,100 And so there A lot of talk behind the scenes going back and 594 00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:11,100 forth whether or not that was a good idea. 595 00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:15,000 So I am very intrigued to see what happens because there has 596 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600 not been any announcement yet. So yeah. 597 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,300 And I have to like, in terms of the time that's passed between 598 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:24,200 now and then, I mean, we've gone through a pandemic, we've gone 599 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,500 through leadership changes at DVC and stuff like that. 600 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:31,000 And I always have to wonder what DVC is objective is, and I think 601 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,200 it's budget to budget. I think it's, you know, how do 602 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,700 we get to the next point in terms of we're going to be 603 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,300 talking about that on an upcoming show in terms of where 604 00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:43,300 prices are headed and stuff like that and you know recent sales 605 00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:48,000 Trends and stuff like that. But I really I really think that 606 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,600 maybe they you think that they have this giant master plan in 607 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,500 place but it's really just year-to-year something like 608 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:58,400 that, right? I mean I one thing that I do 609 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,900 love about DVC is that they really listen to members and 610 00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:06,000 members are very loud and proud to a point. 611 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,800 Yeah, of course. You know, I think, you know, as 612 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,100 much as we think that they have this big master plan. 613 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,500 I do think that they also listened as well. 614 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:16,300 And so they're constantly making decisions based on what 615 00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:18,699 everybody is saying. So it's going to be interesting. 616 00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:23,800 I would say that. Yeah, well I'm intrigued to see 617 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,900 where this goes. We've been waiting a long time. 618 00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,300 At least we have more information now it's like we get 619 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:31,900 a little bit more every every few hours. 620 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,400 Yeah. So this could all be obsolete by 621 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,500 the time this may get exactly. This could be completely 622 00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:40,699 obsolete by the time, it goes long but all right folks that's 623 00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:42,900 going to do it for this week's episode of the BBC show. 624 00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:45,500 We hope you enjoyed it. We'll see you again next week. 625 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,199 Have a good one.