1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,520 We let Derek come up with the cold open for the show this 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,560 week. Derek, what was it? 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,160 What best? What beer hits differently after 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,280 dark? They all hit after dark. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,840 No, I had saw something on a different Facebook group and I 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,800 thought it was a great question. I go, I got to remember that and 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,960 I'm going to ask it in one of our show openings, it said, name 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,000 an attraction for you that hits different when you do it at 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,280 night. And I went, Oh my God. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,920 And immediately I had a bunch come to mind and I said, Hey, 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,400 I'm just going to throw this at at the whole group and the 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,480 audience all around the world. So, Jeff, you go first. 13 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:44,160 I have two that come to mind and cred a coaster at Disney's 14 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:45,080 California. Adventure. 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Love that at. Night you get to see the special 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,240 effects in a lot more detail and this one seems dumb because the 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,960 ride is inside, but I actually like Haunted Mansion at night as 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,960 well. It seems a little small those 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,400 windows. Yeah. 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,960 OK, credit Coaster's a good one. I didn't even think about that 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,960 one. But it's hard to ride at night 22 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:14,760 because doesn't Pixar Pier close early for the yeah, for world 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Color? So you have to you have to make 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,240 sure you time it and you get it like right when it gets dark, 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,160 because if you wait too long, Pixar Pier will close. 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,480 The first one and the only one that I even think of. 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,240 And I feel like a lot of people would say Tron, but to me it's 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,360 too short to really enjoy the the one second of night time. 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,320 Big Thunder. I love big Thunder at night. 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,320 It's just especially if if you end up on it when the fireworks 31 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:46,760 are going off because you can see the fireworks, it just like 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,320 the cool air on your face. It just feels faster at night. 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,040 So that's my answer. I don't know what the rules are 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:59,000 Derek, but my head went to two roller coasters that are not in 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,640 a Disney theme park. 1 is Velocicoaster. 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,120 The islands of. Adventure and the other is 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Stardust Racers at Epic Universe. 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,680 Both of those I find myself hilariously laughing the entire 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,800 ride normally when it's light out because it's so fast and 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,680 chaotic and I don't know what's going on. 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,760 But then add the element of just pitch black darkness and I'm 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,960 just laughing hysterically even more because I don't know what's 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,560 happening. Yeah. 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,560 That's a good one. It's a good one, and Stardust 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,360 has a different soundtrack at night than it does during the 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,440 day, so that's kind of neat. Derek, did you answer your own 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,920 question? Well, the first thing that I 48 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,000 honestly popped in my head, which was kind of embarrassing, 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,120 was the Moana walkthrough thing at Epcot. 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,480 It does feel totally different at night, and everybody will 51 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,920 back me up. I swear to God. 52 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:54,120 You go through that thing during the day and it's like, OK, what 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,160 is this? But you go at night, you get 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,920 some really impressive shots of everything glowing and Spaceship 55 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:02,720 Earth has got. Well, now I need to do. 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,760 It I'm surprised you've walked through it more than once. 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Right. I I I think I got lost on my way 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:10,880 out of the park. I. 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Didn't even know it was open at night so it. 60 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,200 Is and I always look at it at night and I go, you know, 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,280 there's like hardly anyone in there. 62 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,600 It would be really nice to see it because I think the only time 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,400 I've ever been through it was during the preview. 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,960 And I always think, no, it's too cold. 65 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,480 I don't, I don't want to go through it at night, but we're 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,640 going to be there on Saturday. I'm going to have to take my mom 67 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:31,000 through it, maybe at night, I'm telling you. 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,920 The people at Epcot are going to get freaked out and be like, 69 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:35,560 wow, there's so many people here at night. 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,320 All of a sudden it'll be like it's the time for show. 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:50,280 That's what it is. Hey everybody, and welcome to 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,280 this week's episode of The DVC Show. 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,520 I am your host, Paul Krieger, joined as always by my lovely 74 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,800 wife Amy. Krieger. 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,680 We've got the Honorable Jeff Haslam with us today. 76 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Hey everybody. And the one the only sales 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,560 something he sells you. Hampshire. 78 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Deep series somewhere with the more. 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Executive in it. Hey now, happy Monday everybody. 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Happy Monday. I wonder if there's someone out 81 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,279 there that always watches this on a Tuesday and and always 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,320 wonders why we say happy Monday. There are and we know it is the 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,680 coolest thing in the world when we're, you know, in the parks, 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,600 you know, with our families or with our friends. 85 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,480 And if someone happens to watch the show, I we hear so many 86 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,960 stories about how they watch the show, when they watch the show, 87 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,000 what time of day they watch the show, how many pounds they've 88 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,400 lost listening to the show. It's amazing A. 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Recurring theme of people that I've met lately is it's usually 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,920 in the evening after work with a bottle of wine which I'm not 91 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,560 sure how to take that. But. 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,640 We'll, you need a little alcohol in your life to tolerate us 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,280 apparently. So welcome to this week's 94 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:01,600 episode everyone. It is a new month and thus it is 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,080 time to discuss some news that has been going on in the Disney 96 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,560 Vacation Club in Disney Space recently. 97 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,800 And I feel like we got a couple good, good topics to kind of 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,640 chat through. There's been a decent amount of 99 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,400 stuff DVC related, decent amount of stuff around the parks and 100 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,240 resorts. So we've got plenty to chat 101 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,240 through and debate on tonight. Before we get into it. 102 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,040 This and all of our content is brought to you by Key Holder 103 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,480 Vacations and the world of DVCDVC resale market where you 104 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,200 can buy or sell a Disney Vacation Club contract. 105 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,360 We are in the final days of red hot deals over at DVC Resale 106 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Market. So be sure to get that hot deal 107 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,440 from Derek or any of the amazing agents over at DVC Resale Market 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,240 before that wraps up end of the month. 109 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Is that correct, Derek? And at the end of? 110 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,560 The month end of the month, right? 111 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,160 28th, no more. They're gone. 112 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Amy's going to help you finance that contract over at my Monera 113 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Monera Financial DVC rental store where you can rent some 114 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,160 DVC points. Try before you buy or rent out 115 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,480 your extra points for cash and Unlocked Magic Unlocked 116 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,840 magic.com/DVC fan for discounted Walt Disney World, Disneyland 117 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:15,760 and Universal Park tickets. I was, I was looking, in case 118 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,280 anyone was wondering why I was creeping up here as I was trying 119 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,280 to look at Jeff's shirt. And I like his shirt very much. 120 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:24,760 In fact, I have that shirt and I believe I've never actually worn 121 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 that shirt. And I was thinking about wearing 122 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,280 it for the show today and something told me, no, don't do 123 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:31,120 it. I'm glad. 124 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:35,200 That is a nice shirt. It's got all the park icons on 125 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,480 it, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah, I like that. 126 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,840 Thanks everybody that. That's my new one. 127 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,240 See, Look, it's, it's a very classy Disney. 128 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,160 We got it at. Where do we get it? 129 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,400 I can't remember the last part. I'm going to get to Disney 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,560 probably. If anyone has just a lot of. 131 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,920 Very nice. On their hands and can just go 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,960 back through every show and just like, talk about us talking 133 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,320 about shirts. Oh, I know, I'm wearing my hot 134 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,080 spirit jersey. That would be a great 135 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,280 compilation. I don't know which way it yeah. 136 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Epcot, Spirit Jersey and Paul, we're going. 137 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,320 To turn into fashion. Vloggers before Paul has a Royal 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Caribbean Royal Beach Club. Dude, Royal Beach Club Sun 139 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,680 Hoodie because, you know, with the amount of lights that Amy 140 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,880 and I have on us in this studio, we need, you know, SPF 141 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,440 protection, so. That looks nice and big and 142 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,960 loose and baggy. Kicking off the news that I 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,920 wanted to discuss tonight at the biggest that I think happened in 144 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,280 the Disney Vacation Club sphere, actually happened back on 145 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,880 February 10th, which was that new winter and early spring DVC 146 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,800 incentives launched. And with those new incentives 147 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,720 came price increases. So actively selling properties 148 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,400 all saw a price increase. We knew this was coming. 149 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,960 This was announced I think late last year, but Polynesian 150 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Riviera cabins at Fort Wilderness and Aulani increased 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,840 from $235 per point to $243 per point. 152 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,360 And for some reason beknownst to me, the villas at Disneyland 153 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Hotel actually increased from $245 per point to $248 per 154 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,080 point. These are pretty typical first 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,640 of the year increases that we normally see with Disney 156 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,760 Vacation Club. So it's not shocking, but I 157 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,520 think at least what's shocking to me is that we are closing in 158 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,840 on that big $250 per point number that I think we've. 159 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Yeah. And then it's kind of, it's kind 160 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:33,520 of interesting how soon this came after the $500 resale fee 161 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:38,320 because this is what, an extra $8 per point for most resorts. 162 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:45,480 So 3063 points less than 63 points is, you know, of of those 163 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,680 extras 5 And I know you're like my math's always everywhere. 164 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,960 I don't. Really know what kind of math? 165 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,720 I'm trying math right now. I'm a little confused by the 166 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,360 math times. 62 my 5 is 500 so drop this at the fee. 167 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Did you just times by 62.5? Yeah, 62.5. 168 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Yeah, I see. OK. 169 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,960 I still don't know what we're trying math, but I was. 170 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,640 Trying to get to like how you're, they pretty much made-up 171 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,760 for that $500 resale fee. So now I'll just go back and buy 172 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,840 Reese. That was an easier way of saying 173 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,840 it, totally. It just took a while to keep 174 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:23,320 there, She. She writes loans, but yeah, I, I 175 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,040 don't know that like, I'm not quite sure of why both came down 176 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,480 at the same point because, you know, that it did kind of offset 177 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,960 that resale fee that everyone was kind of saying was really 178 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,640 going to change the resale market. 179 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,080 The only thing that is really surprising to me is that even 180 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,720 normally I sit here and I will tell you that, hey, the 181 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,600 incentives came out and you know, direct pricing is just 182 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,920 bonkers. It's astronomically greater than 183 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,000 it was previously. All I'm going to say at the end 184 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,040 of the day is do the math at this point. 185 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,480 I did have a gentleman reach out to us that's in the DVC fan 186 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,120 community. He was actually considering the 187 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,880 difference between buying a Disneyland Hotel resale contract 188 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:11,120 or buying Disneyland Hotel Direct and comparing the two on 189 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,280 150 point contract. But yeah, the difference ended 190 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,200 up, yeah. Sorry if I lost you that sale, 191 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,120 Derek, but no. No. 192 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:23,000 No, we got it. We got if it's what I'm thinking 193 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,960 of, it's Gary. So yeah, exactly. 194 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,040 So yeah, Gary, Gary had sent the spreadsheet to me and was just 195 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,120 asking some questions. But ultimately what it came down 196 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,240 to was that with a lot of the incentives right now, the 197 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,840 difference is somewhere between 5 to 7000 dollars direct versus 198 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,040 resale. And he was going back and forth 199 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,000 on the fence about that. And you know at the end of the 200 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,840 day, if you are looking for the benefits of being a direct 201 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,360 member and you want those those opportunities, that's a low 202 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,160 barrier to entry for those. That's probably one of the lower 203 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,040 opportunities that we've seen with direct pricing for a period 204 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,120 of time. So I don't know if he ended up 205 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,680 going direct, Derek, you might know more than I, but you know 206 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:09,600 he was, he was bouncing back and forth between the two for a 207 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,720 while. There is still a significant 208 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,000 savings with resale, but it was interesting to see those numbers 209 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,000 be broken down and kind of see that in certain instances it 210 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,280 could be worthwhile to buy that direct contract if that's what 211 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,640 you're looking for at this point. 212 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,200 Well, that's just it. And we had a long conversation 213 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,200 on the phone and he did his research and I think that's what 214 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,280 I can't stress enough. And Paul, and you just said it 215 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,440 too, you're like, just do the math. 216 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,200 And that's what Gary did. He computed everything. 217 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,200 I think he used every bit of technology possible AI, 218 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,960 everything else plugged in. I mean, I'm not even kidding. 219 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,320 It was amazing. And he was so great to talk to 220 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,960 you and I stressed to him and I said, Gary, this is about at the 221 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,920 end of the day, this is about you. 222 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,000 If you have, even if the numbers make more sense for you to buy 223 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,360 resale, but a part of you is not going to be happy, right? 224 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:01,000 If you're going to have that FOMO, if it's for whatever 225 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,680 reason it is, then we want you to buy direct. 226 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:06,320 We truly do. We want you to do what's best 227 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,600 for you. But at the end of the day, he 228 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,040 did the math. I was like, you know what, no, 229 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,520 like I'm going to go with resale. 230 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,320 It just makes financially way too much sense for me versus 231 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,480 buying direct for any of those little, little temporary perks, 232 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,040 temporary discount. So just do do the math. 233 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,000 That's it. Take your time, do the math. 234 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,200 You know, if you're on vacation learning about it, you don't 235 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,640 feel the need to have to do it right then and there. 236 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,560 I mean, I know I have a lot of friends that are probably like, 237 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:38,320 shut up, stop saying that. But truly we want you to make 238 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,280 sure that A, it's going to work for you and how you vacation and 239 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,640 B, crunch the numbers, crunch the numbers. 240 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,120 No matter which path it is, just do the math because you don't 241 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,760 want to head down a path and go, oh, crap. 242 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,360 I wish I would have taken just a little bit of time because I 243 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,960 probably made more sense to me to go go this way verse going 244 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,920 that way. And Paul has given everybody all 245 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,120 the tools to know all the prices to all the incentives you have 246 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,520 all the prices on resale. So you've got everything at your 247 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,280 fingertips. So, yeah, well. 248 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,240 And the thing that I like to stress too is there are no two 249 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,320 DVC members that are alike. You have to do what's best for 250 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,960 you and your family and your travel habits and your travel 251 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,920 needs. We love it when people post 252 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,040 questions in our DVC fan community group and you'll get 253 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,200 answers, Ones that you wanted, ones that you didn't, ones in 254 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,640 between, you know what I mean? But the fact of the matter is it 255 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,440 ultimately comes down to you and how you're going to to use the 256 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,360 membership. We want you to get the best out 257 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,680 of it. There's pros and cons to every 258 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:41,640 decision that you make here and we just want you to be happy and 259 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,400 use that membership. So that's why we, and Paul 260 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,760 especially, put this information out so that you know what you're 261 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,480 doing for you. Yeah, I know. 262 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,400 I love that he said that because I'm sitting here thinking, OK, 263 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,040 if if they wanted the Disneyland points as their home resort, but 264 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,400 they want to also be able to use them other places than that, 265 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,000 they definitely want to buy direct. 266 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,720 But in in a lot of people's cases, if it were me, if I'm 267 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,120 buying Disneyland Hotel, that's where those points are going. 268 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:14,480 And that's why our Grand Cal contract, it doesn't matter that 269 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,040 it's its own use year and it lives off in its own little 270 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,560 island because we don't use it for anything else. 271 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,120 So in this case, resale being restricted, the Disneyland hotel 272 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,960 really isn't going to matter because that's where you're 273 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,840 using those points. I'm not going to waste those 274 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,520 points and use them on Saratoga or something else. 275 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Not that I don't love those resorts, but those points are 276 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,160 met for Disneyland so. Gary, I think recently retired. 277 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,600 So First off, happy retirement, Gary. 278 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,320 We're talking about you a lot. But yeah, when he kind of broke 279 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,400 it down for me, I think it was like he was looking for a long, 280 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,200 long weekend a year or, you know, 2, two night stays or 281 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,440 three night stays a year at Disneyland Hotel. 282 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,720 He's local out in the California area. 283 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,440 That's what he's looking for. That's why he wants to buy those 284 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,440 points. So to your point, that ability 285 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,080 to use those points at other properties is not as, you know, 286 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,920 important to him as it would be otherwise. 287 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:19,040 So, yeah, also on the incentives that just recently launched, 288 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,680 wanted to touch on, there is a limited time add on incentive 289 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,560 for Saratoga Springs Resort. And the only reason this 290 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,760 surprises me, Disney does this from time to time. 291 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,880 They always are doing maybe kind of an incentive on a special 292 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,120 resort or something. Saratoga just surprised me 293 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,440 because I think in the current environment, we have so many 294 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,160 actively selling properties. Like you already have 295 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Polynesian, you've got Riviera, you've got the cabins, which I 296 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,840 feel like they just need to throw points at people as 297 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,960 they're walking by to hopefully sell some and see if they can 298 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,480 stick. But very weird that they would 299 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,360 add Saratoga into the mix at this point in time. 300 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,240 And the incentives are not anything to really write home 301 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,760 about A200200 point purchase. The base price only comes down 302 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:11,160 to $170 per point. I think right now resale, Derek, 303 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,440 it's like averaging 98 to $100 per point, So I know. 304 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,800 You were asking, I know you were asking him the question, but I 305 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,040 swear that I thought you called him Resale Derek like that was 306 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,680 his name. It is now. 307 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,600 That's that's. Resale Derek. 308 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,960 His thoughts So. Another title, another title I 309 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,880 like. But yeah, the Saratoga just kind 310 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,520 of kind of surprised me. Why give people just another 311 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,760 option at this point in time? Maybe it's just geared towards 312 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,600 people looking to add on. I don't know, Like, I don't get 313 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,760 it. I'm trying to put my yeah, I'm 314 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,520 trying to put myself in the shoes of someone that would look 315 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,840 at this and go, heck yeah, I'm going to spend $70 per point 316 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,760 more. And $70 a point like that's 317 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,760 crazy. And again, a lot of times, you 318 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,440 know, the direct people need a what they call kind of a drop 319 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,200 down product. Like listen, I'm going to sit 320 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,440 with the family. I'm going to show you, for 321 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,160 example, right now, I'm sure 99% of the time it's here's 322 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,520 Polynesian, right? I'm going to show you. 323 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,160 But they might look and go, that's nice, but I don't know, 324 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,720 it's a little rich for my blood. But you don't want to let that 325 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,240 family go. So then they reach out something 326 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,599 else. Normally back in the day you 327 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:24,599 might have one drop down product or A2 two different one. 328 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:28,720 But my God, right now Disney has like 37 live resorts that 329 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,440 they're actively selling Mitch for families. 330 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,960 Families are leaving with like price sheets, like in a binder. 331 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,600 And then you have to go home to try to figure out which one do I 332 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,960 want to buy? And to add a sold out resort 333 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:44,440 like Saratoga on top of it just seems ridiculous. 334 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,080 So, you know, use Aulani as your drop down product for God's 335 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,400 sakes. You've been selling that since 336 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,120 1973. You have points to be able to 337 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:57,080 lower the price on that. So you know, pitch your first 338 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,240 tier resort and then if you need a drop down to just get a family 339 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,080 in the door, you've got Aulani. So why they're adding Saratoga 340 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,720 to the mix? And like you said, Paul, I got 341 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,400 people every day that are buying it for like 100 bucks a point 342 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,080 and they're not buying it back in Roefer. 343 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,000 So it's a slam dunk right now on the resale market. 344 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,320 Don't buy Saratoga direct. Don't. 345 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,080 I hope we all have adjoining rooms in a nursing home at some 346 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,680 point a long time from now and are still doing this show and 347 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,040 there's 37 active resorts so that we could just stitch those 348 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:34,040 two clips together well. And on top of that, like I mean, 349 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,760 I guess the drop down thing does make sense. 350 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,640 You're talking if you're going from what did you say 24245-A 351 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,600 point to 170 a point. I mean, if you're buying 150 352 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,280 point contract, that's 11,000 in savings, No, they're not going 353 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,000 to send anybody to resell. So they have to do something to 354 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,240 keep you in the door. But I agree with Paul, the 355 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Saratoga thing is, is weird because nobody really likes it 356 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,840 there except Amy Krieger. So. 357 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,320 Actually, Gray, that's his favorite resort, too. 358 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,520 Oh, is it really? Yeah. 359 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,280 He proposed to his fiance, Taylor at Saratoga Springs at 360 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,280 the gazebo. So that's. 361 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,640 See. Now, you shouldn't knock it 362 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,240 anymore, but I do love Saratoga. I just think it's quiet and 363 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,000 peaceful. I love the stone on the 364 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,400 building. I like the way the architecture 365 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,120 of the buildings look. And we always had a buy there 366 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:26,600 for the cheap points. But like in this, in this case, 367 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,600 it's like buy there for the more expensive points. 368 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,520 I just don't get it right. It's weird. 369 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,520 What did you say Aulani was selling for to? 370 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Aulani Direct. Hold on, let me fight with my 371 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,320 iPad now for 5 minutes yet again to pull it back up. 372 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,360 Aulani right now is up to $243 per point. 373 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:48,640 That's that's before incentives crap on. 374 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,360 Packer 243 Two. 43 per. Point I don't. 375 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,160 Want a? Drop down product at that point 376 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,360 because for two reasons, you know, that's not any cheaper 377 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:02,120 than some of the other resorts that are selling and #2 Aulani's 378 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:05,200 just too weird for people. It's too far away to have it be 379 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,840 their home resort, you know what I mean? 380 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,200 Like, it's great. We love it. 381 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,440 We've talked about how much we love it. 382 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,720 But to be in Saratoga Springs at the model Center and trying to 383 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,600 get talked into something that you can't see, I just don't 384 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,120 think that's good enough, you know what I mean? 385 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:21,680 So yeah. And not to knock Aulani because 386 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,800 it's an amazing resort. We're finally going back this 387 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,120 year. I'm so excited, but it's like, 388 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,920 it's like you need to buy GAP Insurance when you when you buy 389 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,920 Aulani direct because there's such a big gap. 390 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,360 I've had people come and try to refinance, you know, direct 391 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:42,800 Disney loans with us that have bought Aulani and they're just, 392 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,040 they're so underwater because of that, because of the, you know, 393 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,800 the value, the difference in value between selling it resale. 394 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,000 So, yeah, I mean, we've seen Aulani going for as cheap as 395 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,400 gosh, it's creeped into the 80s. Yeah, this this past year. 396 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,320 So yeah. So yeah, 240 something that 397 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,200 blows my mind and I don't. Want to fully come out and say 398 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,240 this, but you look at the direction of the Walt Disney 399 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,840 Company and the the profit driven mindset that they have 400 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,640 granted, you know, any company is profit driven, but more than 401 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,080 ever, we're seeing them make decisions in that regard. 402 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,360 And you wonder if they just don't care if someone gets 403 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,720 underwater with a contract, because at the end of the day, 404 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,760 what that means is they're gonna take those points back from that 405 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:34,120 person and then resell them. And so it's it, it's a bad 406 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:37,360 situation for the buyer. It, it potentially kind of, 407 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,200 we've said this and alluded to it several times. 408 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,800 It it kind of moves to the Disney vacation called product 409 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,960 more into that traditional timeshare kind of mindset. 410 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,520 It's not there yet. I don't think it'll ever will be 411 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,040 there. It will always be special. 412 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,000 It's Disney. Yeah, but. 413 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,200 It won't be there, yeah, like because, but. 414 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,560 Still, there's these small things that have changed that 415 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,600 you look at the broader timeshare industry and you go, 416 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,560 Oh, well, yeah, you know, it's kind of following those 417 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,920 footsteps a little bit in in some of those decisions in 418 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,120 looking at at just incentives on the whole. 419 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:16,360 Just in terms of a new member. If you are looking to add on, I 420 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,920 do want to give a shout out to Lauren De La Cruz, who actually 421 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,160 wrote the article this month on the incentives. 422 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Amy and I were actually falling down a ski slope at the time 423 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,960 that all of this dropped, unfortunately. 424 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:32,400 More on that coverage soon, but Fort Wilderness incentives are a 425 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,400 slightly better deal than the last round if you're purchasing 426 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,560 200 points or more. Disneyland Hotel lower across 427 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,560 the board compared to previous offers. 428 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:47,080 Riviera small increase, Aulani small increase, Polynesian about 429 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,760 the same until you get to 200 points or more and kick in those 430 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,280 anniversary, 35th anniversary savings. 431 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,440 I've said 35th anniversary so many times that I feel like I 432 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,360 need to bring up that. That is one of our news topics. 433 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:04,720 It is the 35th year of Disney Vacation Club and they recently 434 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,600 came out with a special logo and it sounds like we're going to 435 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,560 just kind of be doing some small celebrations throughout the 35th 436 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,320 year. I feel like it was just 437 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,360 yesterday that we were celebrating the 30th year of 438 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,400 Disney Vacation Club, which is wild. 439 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,800 So. And Derek, you've been here for 440 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,840 all 35 of those years. How's it been? 441 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:27,680 Resale Derek has yes. I just can't believe it's been 442 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,840 like when I tell people still like just invitation started in, 443 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,000 you know, 1991 and direct points were $49.00. 444 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,920 People can't believe it. I was just telling someone today 445 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,240 and they asked me on, you know, the live chat feature like, hey, 446 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,280 so do these points ever change? Because I'm learning about the 447 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,240 club and I'm looking at the point chart, blah, blah, blah. 448 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,360 So I'm explaining them, you know, it's a hedge against 449 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:48,880 inflation. That's why you joined. 450 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,960 The number one reason he's like, well, I don't get it. 451 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,040 And I was like, well, so let me put it this way. 452 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,040 Members that joined in 1991 direct, they paid 49 bucks a 453 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,400 point, use the exact same point charts that someone that buys 454 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,840 direct from Disney today for whatever $245 per point. 455 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,000 Every member uses the same point chart. 456 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,680 It just comes down to how much did you pay for your points? 457 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,440 That's what it comes down to. So it's been an incredible 35 458 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,120 years. I can't believe when I bought, 459 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:20,040 you know, in the late 90s that I, I had Boardwalk, I had old 460 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,840 Key West and Vero Beach. That was it. 461 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:27,160 And now the fact of all of these amazing resorts that we have 462 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,280 that keep going and people love for different reasons, it's, 463 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,040 it's still to this day it's the best vacation product out there 464 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,360 that you can buy, bar none. I will die on that hill. 465 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Nothing else comes close to it. Nothing else. 466 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,640 You can take your Hiltons and your Marriott's and your 467 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:50,400 Wyndham's and. I was five years old when Disney 468 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,000 Vacation Club launched, and I'm still kicking myself for not 469 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,360 buying that back in the 90s. We. 470 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,240 Still sit in bed some nights and go we really shouldn't have done 471 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,800 that wedding we should have bought ADBC contract This is 472 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,080 that 35th anniversary logo by the way that I. 473 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,600 Was 235 years while Derek. Was talking another kind of play 474 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,640 that the 30th anniversary logo actually was very similar to a 475 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,400 logo they had for Disneyland Paris. 476 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,240 So they're always kind of doing a little play with a little bit 477 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,320 of a silhouette, Mickey and everything. 478 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,040 So, you know, you're hiding behind the the logo there. 479 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,520 But yeah, it'll be interesting to see as the as the year goes 480 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,240 on, kind of what other special things they do to celebrate the 481 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,960 35th anniversary of Disney Vacation Club. 482 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Looking at the broader. Yep, I do hope that they do some 483 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,520 good merch with it because the merch that they have right now 484 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,760 is kind of hot garbage. Sorry I. 485 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,440 Mean we can pivot there. That's new favorite term hot. 486 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,160 Garbage. Yeah, I did have I did have on 487 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,760 the list tonight to talk about merch. 488 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,920 So I mean, we might as well go there. 489 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,760 And this this is what I don't understand. 490 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,240 So this is the moonlight magic merch that came out for 2026 491 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,280 recently. And I we can unpack this several 492 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,880 different ways. You know, First off, I just, 493 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,240 I'm, I'm a little confused by the Mickey I'm. 494 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,440 Confused by the location on the shirt and size of the. 495 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,200 There's a lot to be confused on here, but I'm mainly confused by 496 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,280 Mickey. I I don't want to fat shame 497 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,560 here, but I I want to say Mickey's had a couple too many 498 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,320 churros. Maybe on this it just looks. 499 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,040 Like it looks like something I could draw and that's not 500 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,480 saying, is it? AI Mickey did. 501 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,960 Is this potentially it? It is a little like Teemu Mickey 502 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,000 a little bit, but my biggest complaint about this and then 503 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,720 I'll let Jeff, you know, hop on his his merch soapbox since he 504 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840 used such a elegant term, hot garbage. 505 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,440 But in the history like look back at I feel like they've got 506 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,400 to have sales numbers for moonlight magic merch. 507 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,200 I feel like if you would put the words moonlight magic somewhere 508 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,040 on this it would sell better. Those shirts where they had 509 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,480 Moonlight Magic and they had a list of all the dates and 510 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,400 locations on the back. People love those. 511 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,000 That was a. DVC fan shirt. 512 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,000 No, no, you, yeah, you had something similar. 513 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280 But they did, didn't they do it too officially? 514 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,000 They might have done it prior. I think they did it. 515 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,240 One year, one year. Also, they used to do special 516 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,760 merch that was like it would be, you know, moonlight Magic and 517 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,040 then like down the sleeve or something it would say like 518 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,560 Epcot or Magic Kingdom back when Magic Kingdom had Moonlight 519 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,200 Magic. That was worth the days. 520 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,760 I. Know we've never got to 521 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,360 experience that but. Yeah, I just, this was a miss. 522 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,120 I will give them credit. They recently did have a Slam 523 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,200 Dunkin merch. I, well, I don't want to use the 524 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,920 term slam dunk, but they did have a recent merch success, 525 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,240 which was I loved the new mugs that they came out with. 526 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,440 They're a stackable mug collection, but they only did it 527 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,760 for like 8 of the resorts. And according to Derek, there's 528 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,840 37. So how am I supposed to collect 529 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,760 them all there? And you know, it's, it's not for 530 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,440 all of my home resorts. So I ended up not choosing to 531 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,120 buy it. Yeah. 532 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,320 I was, but he only had like one or two home resorts that had 533 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,160 mugs. Yeah. 534 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,480 I mean, so I mean make us all feel included. 535 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,160 Give us all a little bit of merch. 536 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,320 I don't know. What are your merch complaints, 537 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,240 Jeff? It's. 538 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,920 Such an easy thing, you know, and we've got a video coming 539 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,760 out. I just sent it to Paul about the 540 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,720 happiest market. It's like a a cast member Etsy 541 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,400 type store that's off property. That the quality of the shirts 542 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,960 that people that aren't working for Disney are coming up with is 543 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,040 astounding to me. And then we get this thing, 544 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,440 which I mean, it's fine, but look at like, look behind me. 545 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,000 I, I think it's safe to say I'm kind of a Mickey fan. 546 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,800 And this version of Mickey is unlike any other version of 547 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,080 Mickey we've ever seen. And like Paul said, he's just, 548 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,600 he's disproportionate to himself in, in some ways. 549 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,360 And so I I. Don't. 550 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,960 Know I don't know who's in charge said Why have a kind logo 551 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840 that's big dead center on a sweatshirt? 552 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,320 I don't know. I don't know who fell off and 553 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,240 hit their head. But we want to buy things. 554 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,840 We love buying things. Our our community loves to buy 555 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,920 things. Yes, the fact. 556 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,920 That these aren't flying off the shelves and they have every size 557 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,200 imaginable in every store that you go to. 558 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320 Like they're going to end up at the character warehouse down the 559 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,760 street next month in every size because they I don't just don't 560 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,840 think they're selling. Yeah. 561 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,520 But I'm I'm I'm always amazed too, Jeff, is that items like 562 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,440 that don't just say like appear after one day. 563 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,440 There was 134 different meetings for sure that showed every 564 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,320 design possible that went through this. 565 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,640 And then they had a meeting after that meeting and this one. 566 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,920 And that's what finally wound up is that and I'm just always 567 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,240 amazed, like how did they get through? 568 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,720 It's cute, don't get me wrong, but I didn't think for something 569 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,240 like Moonlight Magic, right, Something like Moonlight magic 570 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,800 that people are willing to buy 150 points. 571 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,200 Direct thus. For the hope that they could 572 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,160 someday get into said event. That's how much people love this 573 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,920 event so they're willing to buy 150 direct points to try to get 574 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,120 in there and that's what you got is oh hey pal, do you like my 575 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,760 shirt? I'm sorry about my weight. 576 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:47,000 Like it's just like, it's like you have people, like Jeff said, 577 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,720 people love to spend money. I always say at every single 578 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,200 resort, and we've probably talked about this before, but I 579 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,400 love seeing what they've done to the Christmas ornaments. 580 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,680 Their ornament game is so trillion times better than it 581 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,640 ever used to be. But I think in every DVC resort, 582 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,480 they should be selling an ornament on that resort. 583 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280 I think every DVC resort, you should be able to go into the 584 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,280 boardwalk and buy a boardwalk towel. 585 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,360 You should be able going to Bay Lake Tower and buy a towel. 586 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,520 People love their resort. They want to spend money on 587 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,120 stuff like this. So yeah, it's just strange and 588 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,080 it's all just, God, it's just so much of it is just like, OK, so 589 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,360 when this doesn't sell, they'll just change it and put it out 590 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,120 for some other different type of events. 591 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,400 OK, Yeah, well, where's the pins? 592 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,720 Like I don't. Know if Paul's try to put this 593 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,840 shirt in in this on view? So this is from 2018. 594 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,160 So I will say I know I will say it says me like magic was great. 595 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,320 It has the year, which is great and it has Epcot on it and 596 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,000 that's awesome. But like, why does it look like 597 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Figment is? No, it's like he's unleashing 598 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,840 his flatulence all over the spaceship Earth and the people 599 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,120 in line. Or Figment. 600 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,000 Give him a rough time on this show, don't we? 601 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,560 It's. A It's a weird position for him 602 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,840 to be standing in, it looks. Like he's presenting, yeah. 603 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,720 It looks like he's going to twerk. 604 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,880 And. Then like this and then the the 605 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,240 stuff coming out that's, yeah, no, look, there's like Pixie 606 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,920 dust coming out of his butt if you look. 607 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:31,440 Do you see it sparkly? I would still take that shirt, I 608 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240 take that one over the shirt that Paul showed because that. 609 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,000 Oh yeah, I agree. Yeah, even. 610 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,600 With figment. On it. 611 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,600 It's got a name on it, you know that. 612 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,080 I would still take twerking Figment over that Mickey. 613 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Saving us from this conversation and moving us forward. 614 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,760 Just a little teaser for next weeks episode of the DVC show, 615 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,280 we are going to devote an entire episode to talk about the next 616 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,600 CEO of the Walt Disney Company who was announced and surprise, 617 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:08,400 surprise, it was Josh Demaro. And I think while while we were 618 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,400 surprised, no one was surprised all at the same time with that 619 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,120 announcement. I think the bigger question is 620 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,360 what it means broader for the Walt Disney Company, what it 621 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,520 means for the future of Parks and resorts, Disney Vacation 622 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,120 Club, and then also kind of looking at studios and all of 623 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,680 those other things. So we're dedicating a whole show 624 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320 to that. So be sure to TuneIn next week 625 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,480 as we talk about that. Something I want to linger on 626 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,600 for a little bit is Parks related. 627 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,960 But actually earlier this week, before we filmed this show, 628 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,720 there were some reports that started to circulate. 629 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,440 And Len Testa actually, I think, posted originally on a forum 630 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,760 online that he had heard a report that Imagineering had 631 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,840 basically been told to scrap the plans for Villains Land for the 632 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,440 Magic Kingdom at this point because they were underwhelming. 633 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,800 We've heard that from multiple sources and that to think bigger 634 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,679 and to think with fewer budgetary constraints. 635 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,760 At this time, I just, I want to go around the room and kind of 636 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,000 unpack this for a second. I know we've seen very little 637 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,199 kind of finite concept art or anything outside of 1 singular 638 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,480 picture for villains land. We did destination D 23 this 639 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,600 summer. Destination D-23 just said we've 640 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,719 been spending the past four years in Barcelona, Spain 641 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,280 studying architecture. I don't. 642 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,159 Think it was quite. I mean, they visited, but I 643 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,639 don't think they've been in there for four years. 644 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,239 But no. But to my point. 645 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,600 Yeah, it was supposed to have this, you know, Gothic 646 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,440 architecture quality similar to like Gal Galpi. 647 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,440 I mean, I can never say that, right? 648 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,360 We yeah, we do love, we love Barcelona, but I hope they 649 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,600 didn't scrap that portion. I hope it's more all the other 650 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,560 junk that they haven't showed us yet. 651 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,800 Where? I'm stuck with it. 652 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,840 Is that here we are almost four years removed from the initial 653 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,560 announcement of Villains Land and we are no further to knowing 654 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,800 what this may look like. And I'm concerned that, you 655 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,520 know, we going back, we may be in the nursing home together by 656 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,760 the time Villains Land actually actually opens. 657 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,640 Jeff, thoughts on this? Yeah, there's so many thoughts, 658 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,320 but I'll try and I'll try and sum up. 659 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:33,040 I like the thought that they're scrapping it because it's not 660 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,200 big enough or not to their quality. 661 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:41,560 And I kind of selfishly hope that it was because of because 662 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,440 we, it was reported widely that Josh tomorrow and his team went 663 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,800 up to Epic Universe and and got a tour of that new theme park. 664 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,840 We know that they've been elsewhere, like you guys were 665 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,600 saying around the world, looking at different design 666 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,000 opportunities and stuff like that. 667 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,800 I want them to do it right because The Villains is a huge 668 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,200 IP product for them that doesn't really have a resonating space 669 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,920 within the parks. They've tried a few things. 670 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,160 They've got that weird show over at Hollywood Studios. 671 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,240 They've done some parades over the years. 672 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,600 You know, they have a starring role in Fantasmic, but it it's 673 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,120 the Villains are like The Muppets to Disney and they don't 674 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,920 know what to do with them. It's a, it's a hugely successful 675 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,280 IP that they just can't figure out how to put in the parks the 676 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,120 right way. So I'm comforted in the fact 677 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,000 that maybe they're pumping the brakes and taking the time to do 678 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,320 it right. Obviously time will tell if 679 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,080 that's actually what's taking place. 680 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,560 But meanwhile, we've got construction going on and pretty 681 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,640 much everywhere else with Monsters Inc, with Animal 682 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,440 Kingdom and, and Tropical Americas and Cars Land. 683 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,360 I finally made it over to Magic Kingdom last week when my family 684 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,640 was in town and saw the construction that's going on 685 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,880 over there. Like they, we've got plenty to 686 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,240 look forward to at this point that I don't mind taking a beat 687 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:57,880 on something this important to make sure that it's done right. 688 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000 Yeah. It's it's been something that I 689 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,520 think has been rumored for so long within the theme Park 690 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,080 Community as a potential like as something that's been on a 691 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,000 drawing board or a white board in a backroom of Imagineering. 692 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,640 And, and it has to be done right. 693 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,280 You look at everything that Epic Universe did over at that park, 694 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,960 they did not really, you know, there were a couple budget cuts 695 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,760 that happened related to the pandemic and stuff. 696 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,320 They're already working to fix some of that. 697 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,440 They're already looking to add on and expand that park. 698 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,200 So when you have a company like Universal and Comcast that has 699 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,120 their, their, you know, gas pedal down, you cannot cut 700 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,080 corners if this is what you've promised the Disney community, 701 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,680 because people have been waiting for this for way too long. 702 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,480 They love their villains way, way too much. 703 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,640 And, you know, yeah, I if this is a lot of rumors within the 704 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,600 community right now. But if this is one of kind of 705 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,960 Josh's first things, you know, he doesn't fully take over as 706 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,760 CEO until mid March, I believe it is. 707 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,520 But if this is kind of one of his first directives that he's 708 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,760 pushing out before doing so, I think that that tells volumes of 709 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,280 the direction of the company. And you know, like, like you 710 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,920 said, Jeff, I'm I'm excited by it. 711 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,520 Derek, thoughts. Well. 712 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,920 Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts too. 713 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,160 Is I think it's more important than people realize because I 714 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,200 think Villains Land, I think for Disney is their chance to come 715 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,440 out and be like the Magic Kingdom guys. 716 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,000 It's not just for babies. Like I think that's their 717 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,240 chance. Can Disney do something that's 718 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:40,920 hip? Can Disney do something that's 719 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,240 edgy? Can Disney do something that's 720 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,720 honestly maybe even a little bit scary? 721 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,120 So I think for them to come out and playing it too safe, which 722 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,880 like you talked about, Paul, I mean, they announced this four 723 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,600 years ago. And I think the only thing we've 724 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,640 seen is that same picture that everybody's seen and we've seen 725 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,360 a couple pictures of. I think this is what we want our 726 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,240 railings to look like, like that, that's it. 727 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,360 Like that's all that people have scene, whereas people want to 728 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,640 have this land, you need it to be something they need it to be 729 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,320 something so cool. No, we don't expect it to have a 730 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,400 a Stardust Racers type of a thrill ride or a Velocicoaster 731 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,200 type thing. But I think if you can have it 732 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,640 where you have a land, and I think that's what's so important 733 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,880 that you want to kind of spend time in and just be like, Oh my 734 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,040 God, yeah, let's do this. But I can't wait. 735 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,920 Stepping into, you know, villains land is so cool. 736 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,440 Look at this. This is so great. 737 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,680 Oh my God, this is the coolest place. 738 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,200 Let's just go out to eat here. I just want to ride this ride. 739 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,160 I just want to hang out because I love the whole vibe because 740 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,440 it's so different and it's so unlike anything that Disney has 741 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,640 ever done. So I think it is super important 742 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,320 for Disney to do this and do it right because they only have, I 743 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,920 think from what I've seen, what there's one restaurant, right? 744 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,800 There's obviously stores, yeah, I think there's just one main 745 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,200 attraction from what I've seen. I've heard two. 746 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,600 I've heard two attractions OK. Yeah. 747 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,200 So I mean 2 main things. So one of them is going to be 748 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,440 some kind of a coaster, I'm sure, and then another kind of 749 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,640 an indoor attraction that's not too scary for, you know, for 750 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,280 everybody else. But that's what I'm most excited 751 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,760 about because I know what monsters is going to look like. 752 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,640 We all know because it exists in the movies. 753 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,400 If you want to see what monsters land is going to look like, it's 754 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,720 in the movies. There is no quote UN quote 755 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,240 villains land that you can kind of see. 756 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,160 So they have the ability as Disney Imagineers. 757 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,920 And if I were them, I'd be super freaking pumped up to be like, I 758 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,520 get to create a land from scratch. 759 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,080 Like we get to take all these different villain characters and 760 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,320 put them into a land. We get to build it from scratch, 761 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,040 which is, is what Disney does better than anybody else, you 762 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,280 know, So I'm, I'm super excited to see what they do, But I do 763 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560 think it's incredibly important to have it done right because 764 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,880 it's the Magic Kingdom. It's not like you get to build 765 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,200 something and go, oh, that wasn't great. 766 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,320 But hey, we still got a ton more land here. 767 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,200 Like, no, you don't. You got to do it right. 768 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,880 It's, it's weird how dependent we've gotten on IP when it comes 769 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,200 to these things. You know, I think, and, and 770 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,360 that's really the struggle that sounds like, and that that seems 771 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,000 to be the struggle that I, that imagineering is having at this 772 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,400 point is to come up with an original idea that aligns with 773 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,000 why, why all of these villains are together in this singular 774 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,640 place. But you know, why not bring in 775 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,880 studios? Why not bring writers in from 776 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,840 studios that have that have worked on these, these movies? 777 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,560 My head immediately goes to Wreck it Ralph when they somehow 778 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,760 injected all of these Disney characters into that movie so 779 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,680 successfully. Because obviously it's the 780 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,680 Internet and you know, I hope everyone's seen Wreck it Ralph 781 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680 by this point. I'm not spoiling anything, but 782 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,760 you know, it it it made sense for them to come together 783 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,200 weather. So when you look at kind of the 784 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,040 flywheel of of Disney, you just kind of have to ask yourself the 785 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,040 question like, why is not studios talking to parks and 786 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,440 sort of saying, let's come up with this original story. 787 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,760 Let's not only just come up with it, let's make a movie about it 788 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,840 and let's launch all of this stuff at the same time. 789 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,280 Maybe that maybe that is what they end up doing, but that just 790 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,720 makes so much more sense in my head because then you have a 791 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,600 cohesive storyline that tells you why all the villains are 792 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,840 coming together. Then you can, you don't have 793 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,920 these issues and all these questions. 794 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,200 But again, it makes it more dependent on the IP and it's 795 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,400 just so weird that we can't, I, I don't know, we just can't come 796 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,000 up with an original idea or we're not, we're not certain 797 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,720 enough to invest in an original idea these days like original 798 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:49,960 Disney park parks. But that's. 799 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,080 A that's such a good idea, Paul. Like truly, I mean, it gets me 800 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,480 excited hearing you talk about that because could you imagine 801 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,800 if you could, you know, have the Disney company with so many 802 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,360 different media outlets and everything else start from 803 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,120 scratch and say, OK, what are some ideas? 804 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,680 Why are all these villains from these certain popular movies? 805 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,520 Why are they all here? Then you could, you know, do 806 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,920 Internet shows. You could do, you know, series 807 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,400 on Disney Plus. You could do so many things that 808 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,920 by the time people ate, they can't wait. 809 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,440 Oh my God, we got to get to the Magic Kingdom. 810 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,920 You want people to just blow past a Cinderella castle and be 811 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,880 like, I got to get to villains land because Oh my God, this is 812 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080 such a cool story. Or I read the book on why all 813 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520 the characters are here. I can't wait to see how they 814 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,560 bring it to life verse the usual path for the last guy knows how 815 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,200 many years is walking into insert IP land here going that 816 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,360 looks kind of almost just like the movie. 817 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,760 Yeah, neat. So monsters so neat. 818 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,760 Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it's going 819 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,880 to be. It's going to be awesome. 820 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,400 But how neat to have that ability to have that clay to, to 821 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,800 build something from scratch and to have people wonder. 822 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,760 Like you said, Wreck It Ralph is a perfect example because people 823 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,680 were so pumped to be like, Oh my God, that's a dude from from, 824 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,320 from that game and then that game and oh, that's why they're 825 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,480 all sitting around together. Yeah, that'd be that'd be cool. 826 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,360 Not to derail us too much, but since we're talking about this, 827 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,480 have you guys been to Animal Kingdom lately and looked at the 828 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,640 construction going on at Dinoland they ran? 829 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,400 Through it, really. I was about to say I ran through 830 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,880 it really fast, but then I realized I was running really 831 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,400 slow at that point of the marathon. 832 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,880 So I did run through it and it was like, holy moly, that's a 833 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,480 big building that. Encanto building is mass. 834 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,720 It owns that area. Like I was blown away. 835 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,720 I hadn't been over there since it went vertical and I was just 836 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:47,040 you. Know I hope they can blend it in 837 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,960 more. Yeah, I'm excited. 838 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,840 I hope that attractions awesome. I am actually really excited for 839 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,120 that section, yeah. Is that supposed to be a water 840 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,920 ride or like a just a dry ride? Like a dark ride? 841 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,040 OK, we don't. Know. 842 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,000 Really. I don't think we know. 843 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,160 I think there's been a lot of speculation, but I don't think 844 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,320 there's been anything that I've seen anyway. 845 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,760 The only. Thing we know concretely is, 846 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,000 well, obviously we know Indiana Jones, but the, the, the 847 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,960 carousel, we know kind of more about that and how it's going to 848 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,440 be carved of different, you know, animals and things. 849 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,480 But yeah, the Encanto ride's been pretty on the download. 850 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,920 Not too much, yeah. I bet you it tells the story of 851 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,680 Encanto. What do you think? 852 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,440 Or. Could could tell. 853 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,720 Could tell something else? That was kind of the meat and 854 00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:41,400 potatoes of the news that we had going on over the past couple 855 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,520 weeks. Another thing that popped up, 856 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,640 the 2027 Disney Vacation Club member cruise was announced. 857 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,880 This one was actually kind of exciting to me. 858 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,480 I don't know that I'll book it necessarily. 859 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,080 Bookings actually open on Saturday, February 28th. 860 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,960 On that day, if you're calling member services for any other 861 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:04,200 reason, good luck because most of it will be dedicated to the 862 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,800 member cruise booking that day. But it is the Disney wonder and 863 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,920 they are headed out to the West Coast this this time for the 864 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:17,360 member cruise. April 7th, 2027, seven night 865 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,880 round trip voyage and it's pretty cool because it's going 866 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,600 to some unique destinations. So it departs San Diego, then it 867 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,400 goes to Catalina Island, then it's at sea for a day, and then 868 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,720 it spends 2 days in San Francisco, which is incredibly 869 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,240 unique cruise port. Yeah, I. 870 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,680 Thought that was my opinion. That was neat that it spent it 871 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,040 goes overnight. Yep. 872 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,200 Gonna go back to sea for another day, take you down to 873 00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,080 essentially what we call the Nassau of Mexico on that side 874 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:53,880 and then not Ensenada, Ensenada and then back we just, we just. 875 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,160 Did yeah, we did Catalina Island and Ensenada last year. 876 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,360 So Catalina Island's really pretty. 877 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,960 It's, it's a seven night cruise too. 878 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,360 So it's, it's a longer member cruise. 879 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,240 The one that we went on a few years ago was only four nights, 880 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,760 but I think that it's great that they're kind of giving the West 881 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,240 Coast people some love. So giving them something that if 882 00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:19,440 you live over there, your DVC member, it's going to be an 883 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,240 easier cruise for you to get to. You know, it's not 884 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,880 international, so you don't have to go, you know, far like the 885 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,560 one this year. But but yeah, so I I say this 886 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,920 now and it'll probably already happened by the time the show 887 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,640 comes out, but we keep getting asked. 888 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,600 I keep seeing people asking in the DVC fan Facebook group, you 889 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,640 know, what about the pricing? Have the point charts come out 890 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,320 yet? They have not as of today, 891 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,880 Wednesday, February 18th when we film this, hopefully we hear 892 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,440 soon because they it does go on sale very soon. 893 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:59,920 So, but if you're not familiar for a DVC member cruise, not the 894 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,720 same as like the first wave sailings, you know, and those, 895 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:07,040 but for the chartered DVC member cruise, you can book with all 896 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,760 cash or you can do points. So you don't have to just do 897 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,840 points. You just have to be a a member 898 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,400 that qualifies for the direct parks in order to book the 899 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,240 cruise and the final payment or the the full payment is due 900 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,560 basically once you book. So the way it worked for us was 901 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,600 we booked it and then they call us back later that day to 902 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,760 collect the full payment. Yeah, for all the details on the 903 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,240 on the member cruise, head to dvcpan.com and search in the 904 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,880 search box for 2027 DVC Member Cruise. 905 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,160 We kind of outline the information that you're going to 906 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,600 need when you make that initial phone call to member services. 907 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,240 Basically some general information about your guests, 908 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,320 what kind of state room you're looking for. 909 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,560 Once they have all of that information, they've got you 910 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560 locked in, they're going to give you a call back later that day 911 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,160 to finalize the details and then lock in your payment. 912 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,880 Payment is due in full at the time of booking for that member 913 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,160 cruise. As Amy said, you can either do 914 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,480 points, cash or combination of points in cash if you want to to 915 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,360 pay for it. And member cruises, what's 916 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,160 unique about them is that there are some special activities that 917 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,720 you would experience above and beyond the traditional Disney 918 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:19,000 Cruise Line. It is a kind of a full buyout by 919 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,600 Disney Vacation Club of that boat. 920 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,760 So they normally bring on some cool entertainment options. 921 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,600 They have some unique gifts that they give you for joining them 922 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,480 for the member cruise sailing. So for those that are eligible, 923 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,520 I have always kind of said it, it's a fun thing to at least try 924 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,000 once or twice if it aligns with your vacation plans for where 925 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,200 you're looking to go. But also realize that it is 926 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,520 going to be at a premium cost compared to let's say that they 927 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,520 offered that exact same ceiling otherwise, which I'm not quite 928 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,400 sure that they do. I don't think that they offer a 929 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,920 I've. Never seen it over a day in San 930 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,840 Francisco option but. Because of all the extra 931 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,400 add-ons, it is going to be at a little bit of a premium price 932 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,480 compared to your normal costs for a Disney Cruise Line 933 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,280 experience. So and. 934 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,640 And, and odds, odds are you're going to be on the boat with the 935 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,000 guy that does the voice of Mickey Mouse and the guy that 936 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,640 does the voice of Goofy. Yeah. 937 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,920 Those guys are. Every single yeah, every member 938 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,360 cruise. Yeah, Jodie Benson is also on. 939 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,120 All the member. Cruises a lot of Disney. 940 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,000 Princesses, some of the A. Lot of some of the Broadway 941 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,360 people both Susan Egan usually is on. 942 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,560 Genie, Yeah, yeah, they do kind of go back to the same rotation 943 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,920 of people quite frequently. But but yeah, so other than 944 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,160 that, that about does it for the most recent Disney news that has 945 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,120 happened in the past couple, couple weeks. 946 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,320 If you didn't catch it, be sure to go back on our YouTube 947 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,000 channel youtube.com/DVCfan. Check out. 948 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,480 We did get into a refurbished 2 bedroom villa at Animal Kingdom 949 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,560 Kidani. We've got photos on dvcfan.com. 950 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,240 We've got an entire video review that we did of that, a one 951 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,160 bedroom, a deluxe studio. It is our favorite. 952 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaking for Amuna, it is our favorite room on property right 953 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:10,960 now. Yes, it. 954 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,440 Is it's amazing. Did you guys? 955 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,680 Get a chance to watch the video and and check that out. 956 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,560 Yes. I'm so excited to stay there. 957 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,160 I'm so excited. We we just booked it for 958 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,840 marathon weekend. Yeah, in 20. 27 it's always. 959 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,480 Funny to me, like when when they knock it out of the park. 960 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,160 But like, we've not seen them actually, like, publicize it at 961 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,280 all yet of like, hey, here's what the new Animal Kingdom 962 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,720 rooms look like. And it's like, like, blow this 963 00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:35,880 up. This is amazing. 964 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,160 Like, these rooms are amazing. Like, people are going to give 965 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,040 you so much positive feedback about it. 966 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,520 Yeah. This is one of the best, one of 967 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,480 the best refurbs we've seen. Well, that's going to do it for 968 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,760 this cycle of Disney and BBC News. 969 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,000 I'm sure we'll have more to talk about next month. 970 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,680 So until next time, we will see you next Monday. 971 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,760 Bye everybody, see you. Everybody.