All right, I have pressed record.
We'll go into like a soft intro and then we will start the show.
You always look at me for these and it makes me nervous.
But you're in the room with me. I feel like I.
I'm I don't know what you're going to say.
I never know what I'm going to say for 9 out of 10 of them.
Normally it's just like off the cuff, whatever we think about
right now, I'm thinking about, you know how Derek hasn't been
in a park since he was a fetus out on the West Coast so.
That is the true fact. True fact.
I've not been out. There Disneyland is special.
We got to get him out there. I know, I know, and I hear
people say it all the time. I just think emotionally, I
don't know if I could handle that.
The fact that the castle is so small 'cause I see people
comment on it all the time that have only been to Disney World
and they get there and their face is like, hold on, that's
not it, is it? That's the castle like, so I
don't know if emotionally I'm prepared to handle that.
Well, based off of what you said a couple minutes ago, probably
physically not either. You spent three hours in the
park the other day and you're still hurting from it it.
Was you don't understand, it was animal Kingdom.
It's summertime in Florida. It was 176°.
That's what my phone said. So it was unbearably hot, but we
had a great, amazing 3 hours. So I will never complain about
being able to go to a park for for three hours.
Hey everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of The DVC
Show. I am your host, Paul Krieger,
joined as always by my lovely wife, Amy Krieger.
We've got Senior Sales Associate for the DVC resale market, Derek
de Boer with us. Yes, now it's only 150°.
Hey doe. Happy Monday everybody.
Our favorite friend, the Jeff Haslam.
The Jeff Haslam. Wow, that's new I that should be
forever. You know, I I don't I don't know
what comes out of my mouth. I really don't think when I talk
and I should probably think harder when I do.
But. And someone that I peer
pressured into joining along for the ride.
This week, we've got Carrie Crevel joining us.
How are you, Carrie? Hello, doing well, excited to be
here. Thanks for having me.
We're happy to have you. For those of you that have not
met Kerry, Kerry is actually one of our newest contributors on
dvcfan.com. And I said, hey, why not join us
for one of our member spotlights because we're a fun group to
hang out with. Although based off of our
conversation over the five 5 minutes that you've been here,
you probably want to run in the other direction.
Well. You should.
But we're happy to have you, Carrie.
Carrie is actually out on the West Coast.
So if you wonder how we got to West Coast Derek fetus, that's
that's how we got there in our pre show earlier.
But Carrie is actually out the California area.
I'm going to call her basically kind of our West Coast DVC fan
correspondent moving forward because look, you, you have a,
you have more official title than Jeff has and Jeff's been
here for years now. Yeah, Jeff just has V in front
of his name. That's V that's.
It and that happened today so. Many of you are probably
wondering where our dear friend Panda is at.
Again, we we announced on previous shows that some of
these early shows that we film, he's not joining us for more
recently because of his work schedule.
So it's very possible he may jump in near the end.
He may not. He may surprise us.
We'll find out. But that is where Panda is and
we will see him for more, more shows in the future.
But today, Carrie, it's all about you and we are going to
talk to you and get to know you a little bit more and why you
became a Disney Vacation Club member.
And I think that's the best place to start before we do.
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All right, I got all that out of my system.
I can take a deep breath. We're good.
Carrie. It's again so great to have you
here. Carrie.
I feel like bamboozled me a little bit because I noticed her
commenting a lot in Diz boards and in the DVC Fan Facebook
group. And I came out to her and I
said, hey, I think you would be great as a contributor on DVC
Fan. Are you interested?
And she was like, yeah, sure. Have you ever written before?
Not really. And so I showed her around
WordPress a little bit. The first three articles that
you have written, Carrie, are just like textbook perfect.
Like everything's great. So you are like you're an alias
writer for someone and I'm going to figure it out one of these
days. Thank you, Paul.
I swear I'm not. I think I'm just really
passionate about the subject, so it's great.
It's great to be contributing. I'm excited to keep going.
Yeah, well, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Oh, go ahead, Derek. Yep.
I was just going to say that I think, and you can edit this out
if I'm wrong, but I think what was Carrie like involved early
on with one time she got one of the remodeled rooms or something
and she helped you with taking pictures of a remodeled room.
Because I, I specifically remember, I don't know what
resort it was, but I, I remember you giving a shout out to carry
and I'm wondering was that when you guys maybe first met each
other or got connected? I can't recall.
So I was at the D23 Expo last year and was at went to the DVC
booth and noticed they were remodeled or the there were
concept photos of the island tower and that I think I posted
those and then Paul reached out and used them.
And then we, I mean, we've like, yeah, it was really that we just
talked off and on in the last few months and that was probably
the first. Time, if we're going to be
brutally honest, part of that is on me because I think I
originally reached out to Carrie late last fall.
And then we did this whole crazy thing called moving and buying a
new house and all kinds of other stuff.
And the Poly opened and everything.
And I think, Carrie, I sent you a message like in January,
February. And I was like, I'm sorry.
I dropped the ball on moving this forward.
Let's revisit the conversation. And so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Derek, you remember things better than the rest of us.
So never question your mental age, just question your theme
park age. Anyway, back to California,
Carrie. Carrie, tell us a little bit
about yourself, your Disney journey, and what kind of
brought you to Disney Vacation Club.
Sure. So I grew up in Southern
California. I grew up really using
Disneyland as my mall, for lack of a better, you know, phrase.
That's where we, we went to Disneyland back when annual
passes were cheap and that's where we hung out after school
every day. So I grew up kind of with Disney
in my DNA, in my blood all the way through.
I ended up moving to the UK for a few years after college.
I married a Brit and then when we moved back to the United
States, we started resuming our trips to Disney World.
And it really we started going right like so many of us do.
We started going year after year.
And I had previously thought about DVC when I was very young,
when I was like 19 or 20, was not financially in the cards for
me at that point. I was just getting my life
together. But we revisited it a few years
ago and then I like to say it's like a tale of 3/3 visits, 3
different visits. We decided to go to Aulani and
we paid cash for a studio Ocean Room over New Year's $1100 a
night. Sorry, we're all just going to
laugh at that. One for a second 11.
Hundred a night. A night.
Wow. OK.
Yeah, continue. We got there and I fell in love,
right. Anyone who's been to Aulani, you
know, you lot like there. It's the most special place on
earth. That is my favorite DVC resort.
Got there and I said, OK, how am I going to?
How am I going to get back here? Because, yeah, splashing the
cash. I don't have $1100 over and over
and over again for a studio. So we toured, tried hard to
convince my husband and it just he wanted to wait.
He wanted to think about it. And so we then eleven months
later did a trip to Walt Disney World and we visited the
Riviera. And I have a, an 8 year old son
who at the, you know, at the time was 7 and he said we were,
I remember we were at sunset overlooking the lake at Riviera
Caribbean beach. And he sighed and said, Mom,
this is the life. Like, thank you so much for, you
know, giving me this great life. And at that point, I was like,
OK, like, I, I, we have to buy DVC like he's, he's.
So this one trip, I know we're going to be back.
And then the third trip actually happened only about a month
later. I flew back to Florida for
surgery. There's a specialist in Tampa
who had something, you know, who was the best, the world's
bestest, The condition that I had.
And I decided to recover at Saratoga Springs.
And unfortunately, the surgery wasn't successful.
So I was processing a lot of grief, a lot of disappointment
around that, you know, while overlooking the grounds of
Saratoga Springs. And I just thought to myself,
like, life is way too short to continue to analyze and try to
make the numbers work just right.
You know, we don't know what life has in store for us.
So that's it. We're doing it.
And I remember texting my husband and being like, get
ready for the sales pitch when I get home.
I think we're going to do this. We're going to find out a way to
make this work. And then two PowerPoint
presentations later, I was able to get convinced him that this
is what we were going to do. And it's been a great ride
since. That's such an incredible story,
yeah. And, and the best, the best part
about that story is that Paul was wondering how is Carrie such
a good writer? She had to do 2 PowerPoint
presentations to convince her husband to buy DVC.
That's where it comes. Yeah, and, and, and you read my
mind because I was going to ask if Carrie still had those
PowerPoint presentations because I think she could probably sell
them to people because we see people in the group all the time
that are like, how do I convince my significant other to buy DVC?
Let me see please. That's a great idea for an
article, actually. Yeah.
Happy to help anyone who has reluctant spouses out there.
My, my husband is a numbers guy, so I had to make the numbers
work, whereas I have more of the heart, you know, And so we're a
great team, but it, it took some convincing.
Now we'll get to this maybe. But now we're in the Adonitis
phase of our journey. So I'm back to trying to
convince him that that's the next financial move we need to
make. So there will be another
PowerPoint presentation in the near future.
Perfect. OK, sure, you're probably with
an Excel spreadsheet and other things.
We should do it as a live stream and.
You could really just going to say that.
We'll do it as a live stream and put the pressure on him on on
the show. Like one of the ones where you
have like the reaction in the corner.
So like, he has to watch it and you have to watch him.
And then we'll bring the closer in, Derek, bring the big closer
in at the end to seal the deal. So.
And then you could have all the Super fans donate money that
could go towards the down payment, like here's $10, here's
$20, it's done. That's the show's written
itself, love. It OK, so Carrie, tell us what
is your home resort? I feel like you have more than
one. I do.
So part of the sales pitch to my
husband was making the numbers work right.
And so I knew that we wanted to own a minimum of 150 direct
points to get those member benefits.
Because we live so close to Disneyland, we, we're in that
lounge twice a month, maybe sometimes more.
And I know that, you know, that can go away.
That's not forever, but I knew we wanted a minimum of 150
direct points. I also knew that there was no
way I was going to convince my husband mathematically to do
more than the minimum direct points because he is the numbers
guy and sees DVC for the value that it is.
And so we chose to buy 100 points at Bay Lake and then we
did 153 points at Riviera. We ended up buying a favorite
week contract for Week 7, Studio Resort View Studio at Riviera.
So Riviera and Bay Lake Tower are two home resorts.
Yep, for sure. So how often do you go to Aulani
since you said that that was your favorite?
OK. So we've tried to go to Aulani
about once a year. I would love to go more often
because it is such an easy flight, relatively easy flight
for us from the West Coast, but we also have a lot of other
places we want to visit. We also love Walt Disney World.
So right now we're going about once a year to Aulani.
OK. So as someone who goes to Aulani
once a year and you don't own there, what advice do you have
for members trying to book at the seven month window that we
get that question all the time? We get that question.
Yeah, all the time. Sure.
So I think the first thing is really just be flexible with
your travel time and then be flexible with the type of room
that you're looking for. We are a one bedroom family
predominantly and we are relatively flexible around when
we go. Although this last trip we
booked the week right before Thanksgiving at the seven month
mark no problem and it was available actually for I think
another several weeks after that that.
So I think those would be my top 2 tips, right?
Be flexible in when you go really apart from just, you
know, June and then the main holidays, it's actually not that
hard to get into Aulani at the seven month window as long as
you're flexible on room type. You know, you maybe budget a few
more points to get an island garden view or an ocean view and
you should just be fine. We need to go back if there is.
She saying it now, ladies and gentlemen, I was, I was saying
we had to months ago. And she was like.
I just don't know how we'll fit it in just when you listen.
And what I heard, what I heard was we need to go back.
That's. Why I heard.
You know. I did say.
I did say we. And the good thing, Jeff, is
there's not a theme park there, so we don't have to rope drop to
close that. I can sit by the pool for six
state drays six straight days there and be just fine.
I'm good. I'll do it.
That's awesome, Carrie. Also in in, in mentioning the
points that you have. Did I?
Did I catch it right? You have a guaranteed week.
Yes, yeah. So our Riviera contract is a
Week 7 resort view studio contract, although we don't
intend to use it for the foreseeable future.
So I was thinking long term when I bought our contract.
My son is 8, about to turn 9. I'm thinking 1015 years from
now, a week in February, you know, maybe just me at Disney
World sounds fantastic. So we really bought it for the
long term. And also, you know, with
concerns about there's all like the talk about Riviera and
availability and what it's going to do long term.
I just thought, hey, it's easy to get that guaranteed week
written in. Let's just get it and then we'll
use it, you know, for 1015 years from now, right now.
Yeah, I think that's awesome. And we may have to have you back
for another show. Just talking about Guarantee
weeks in general, because we do get a lot of people that have
questions about that and there's multiple strategies behind, you
know, why people choose to do a guaranteed week.
Yours makes perfect sense. It's like when do we plan to
travel and do we have concerns over availability down the road
because of Riviera and the restrictions and all that kind
of fun stuff? So I know you did plenty of
research into all of that decision.
So that, that's awesome. She's the, she's the first
person I've actually spoken to in real life that has a
guaranteed week, so. What about in fake life?
We exist. Let's not go around that rabbit
hole. Fake life.
Hey, I, I have a question for for Carrie, just because I do
love that subject that we talked about that we definitely need to
talk about it on a later show is, you know, convincing your
other half, which again, I get this.
I've gotten this for for 20 years where there's almost
always one person in the family that's all in like guns blazing.
This is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
And it's not always the husband. It could be the flip side too.
But what what do you think that it was that finally convinced
him? Because you said that you're the
more, you know, emotional, which I am too.
But I mean, was it just like, how did you lay it out to him in
terms of where someone who was like, we're not buying a
timeshare? No way.
It doesn't make sense to all of a sudden now you've got multiple
contracts and then you're going to be doing another one probably
later on. What do you think it was that
convinced him? Good question.
So I think the first thing is really knowing your spouse or
knowing your partner and what will motivate them or, or you
know, what is driving their concerns.
And, and for me, I knew my husband is very analytical.
He's an engineer by background. So the other thing I know about
my husband is it takes multiple conversations to get him to, to
agree to something. It's not like, let me just throw
down this, this PowerPoint in front of you and then walk away.
So it took, it took a period of a year right where he was like
he got in, got into the idea right from that first trip at
Aulani where I said, hey, I think we really should pursue
this. And it wasn't it was every day,
right, that I was badgering him for a year, but making the
moments where it's. Really, we're going to have him
back on for another show and we're going to get his version
of this story. Yeah, I'm curious.
I'm curious to get his take. But I knew that he, he cared
about making the numbers work, right.
So he, for all this concern about, you know, oh, what
happened, you know, what happens with the value of the contract.
You know, he wanted to make sure that one, we were consistently
going to go and that two, that there wasn't a flexibility in
the system so that we could do different types of vacations if
we wanted to. So I had to educate him on the
rental process. So we used DC rental store
actually as an example. I previously rented, so I was
able to tell him, hey, you can always do this.
If for, you know, one year we choose not to go to Disney
World, it's so easy to rent points or swap points and go
somewhere else. And that really helped him.
And then the final kind of thing in involved in those PowerPoint
presentations was a snippet of an Excel spreadsheet I made
basically showing the year over year cost and then at what point
our break even would be. And then at what point we start
seeing savings. And you know, it's only a few
years in depending on the contract you purchase,
especially on the resale side of things.
And so once he saw that, he was like, oh wow, it's only like, I
think for us it was like 7 years in with the Bay like tower
contract. My probably even was less than
that. And he was like, well, of
course, like, sure, why wouldn't we give this a shot and then
make sure it works for us knowing that, you know, you can
likely resell it down the road. Most people are able to for a
decent chunk of what you paid. He was like, OK, let's go for
it. So I mean, obviously there's an
emotion aspect. I think he he's a great husband.
He wants to make me happy, but the numbers had to make sense
for him too. I feel like the numbers were
there as soon as you paid 1100 a night for Lonnie.
Yeah. Yeah, and I want.
Everybody to give us value. I want everybody to go back to
listen to this once once we're done, but.
Carrie's diabolical. She's got her husband, she's got
him zoned in. She's got him figured out.
She's no, I'm just kidding. I think that's great.
But like 1100, like like 1100 a night.
How many nights were you there? We only could afford 3 and that
was hard was, you know, at three with 3000, you know, 3030,
three, $100. I was like, how I want to stay
at Aulani for more than three nights.
This is actually kind of torture to only do three nights there.
And like, how am I going to, how am I going to do this?
Like that was that was the conversation.
I think he was like, how many times are we realistically going
to go back to Aulani? Well, like, joke's on him.
How many times we've gone back since like he's bought, he's
bought in now. Like he he does love it, but we
also like going other places too, right?
So yeah, it was like knowing that we could rent out our
points in off years was also something that he really held on
to when considering buying into DVC.
That's awesome. That's great.
I wanted to thank you for sharing your personal story at
the beginning too. And this is going to be hard to
top, but I also like to ask if you had a favorite DVC moment or
something, you know, some kind of Pixie dust that happened or
some kind of moment that made you go, you know, sigh that
relief when you wrote that check, you know, something
that's just kind of like your favorite, one of your favorite
memories. Sure.
So we've only been members for just over a year, but I
actually, and this is this is silly because it was the first
time we used our contract was actually only one night at the
Grand Californian. And again, that was the
property. I live so close to Disneyland,
it it never made sense for me to show out the cash to I can never
justify it in my head to pay the cash rate to the Grand
Californian. And we were able to book one
night and that was the first time we used our points and
walking in and, and staying at the Grand.
You know, anyone who's who's been to the Grand California
knows just what a breathtakingly beautiful resort that is walked
in and was like, Oh my gosh, I get to do this for the next 40
plus years. Like I, I am committed.
I know, you know, we are, we are, we are here for the long
haul. And I have so many years of
memories ahead of me. It was just such a, it was only
one night, but it was enough to be like, wow, like this is, this
is amazing that I don't have to stress about when I'm next going
to go back to a Disney property because I know what's going to
happen within the next few months.
And so just that first night was a really special experience.
That's awesome. My first stay at the Grand Cal
was kind of the same way. I we were actually staying.
We were down in California for a dance competition at the Anaheim
Hilton, which we all know how awesome that place is.
But Amy and Tatum had straight dance all the time.
And we were standing in line at Soren and I'm on my phone
booping and I looked and there was a night tomorrow and I went
and stayed there by myself while they were still.
We had two hotels essentially for one night, but I had to to
check that list. It is such a beautiful resort
and so much fun to just be. You talk about being in the
bubble. We talk about being in the
bubble here. But being in the bubble in
Disneyland is a much smaller, much more intimate bubble to be
a. Part of it.
Yeah. And I also love, as Jeff said,
the fact that you, you know, you've shared that personal
reason for purchasing in the Disney Vacation Club because so
many people that we hear from talk about it making financial
sense or not, but it also is an emotional purchase as well.
You know, we know that our dear friend Jeff purchased for not
this Jeff, but but another Jeff, you know, purchased for similar
emotional reasons where it was like life is short.
How many times am I going to be able to come back here?
This is that guarantee that, you know, I, I get to come back and
see this magical place year after year.
And so it's, it's great to you. You've crunched the numbers from
both sides. It hits the emotional target and
then for your husband, it hits the IT hits the financial
numbers as well for sure. So, and I think too, that's what
that's what Carrie said so perfectly too, is that it goes
back to when you have Disney Vacation Club.
And again, I've had mine for over 20 years that members will
tell you that yes, the trips themselves are fantastic and
they're awesome. But honestly, almost as good or
sometimes even better is just the fact that you know, you're
going away. So everybody knows their
countdown, whether it's going to be a year from today, six
months, three months, two months, 2 weeks, 2 days, 24
hours, it doesn't matter. It's knowing that you're going
away are the things that help you, you know, get through life.
You know, I've said it on like past shows too, which is, you
know, it's easy to go away on vacation when everything is
hunky Dory. That's great.
But sometimes the times you need a vacation more than any other
time is when things are not going so well.
So I think that's when members really, really appreciate the
fact that you know what, I've got this, I've got these points.
You know, what do we want to do with them?
Everything is already paid for. We're checking out.
Our room bill is 0. And you have that trip, no
matter where it is, to know that it's already paid for, it's
already covered. You don't have to stress to say,
Oh my God, it's so much more expensive, intensive than it was
last year and all of this nonsense.
It's just your point, you know, and knowing you're going away,
that to me, even though we go, you know, for one night all the
time down the street to Disney World.
I look forward to that. I know that I'm going to the
boardwalk on December 26th when my son turns 21.
We booked the boardwalk so we could be there on his 21st
birthday. So we know that that's coming.
So, Carrie, yeah, you, you summed it up perfectly, is that,
you know, you have these trips coming for not just one year,
but for for decades to come, which is awesome.
It was raised well, good. I'm sorry.
I was gonna say, Derek, I was raised with this philosophy that
you always should have another vacation booked because the
planning, you know, I think for so many DVC members, Disney
fans, the planning is the best part of the trip or just as good
as the trip itself. And so I was raised with that
philosophy. It's one I, I really live by.
And that you're right, that helps you through, you know,
stressful periods at work, stressful personal times,
knowing you've got something on the horizon to look forward to.
And DVC just kind of seals that in, right, You know, because you
have committed financially to going that you are going to keep
going. So it kind of ties the two
together really nicely. Yeah, it's perfect.
Yeah. OK.
So Speaking of that, what do you have on the horizon that you're
excited about? OK, so we are staying at our
home resorts for the first time ever in February.
We, we immediately booked one of the other things I, I didn't say
at the beginning was when we chose our home resorts, we chose
with the intention of staying at all of the DVC resorts
eventually. So I know some people pick their
home resort because they love it and they want to go back to that
home resort every year. We picked them with the
intention of no, like one of the beauties of DVC is that there's
so much variety. And so we've utilized the
variety over the last year and it was actually my husband who
was like, you know, like we've owned this for over a year now
and we've done 4 trips. Like maybe it's time to actually
stay at our our home resorts. So we have a split stay coming
up in, in February and we're staying at first at Bay Lake
Tower for a few nights and then we're going to move to Riviera.
And so get to experience those. Derek will be really excited to
come see you at Bay Lake. He loves that property,
absolutely. Maybe I could put on it Derek.
I'll, I'll try. I know.
Stop it. Jerry said it perfectly.
California Kerry said it perfectly.
That's the great thing about BBC.
It's something for everybody. Can you make a PowerPoint about
Bay Lake Tower Forest, Kerry, please?
We're going to need that. Carrie, you mentioned earlier as
well that you you definitely wanted that 150 direct purchase
and what were the key things that like made you want that
direct contract? Because we're very transparent
always that I think most members are going to become hybrid in
some way in their in their life. So what was the driving things
that were like? Yes, we definitely want to start
with that direct. Interesting, I should say we
actually bought resale first, but we can, we can talk about
that and then a month later or as soon as it closed, we then
purchased direct. So I, I, but we went in with the
intention of becoming hybrid within a space of a, a few
months. So we were pretty strategic and
in that decision. But the reason why we knew we
wanted at least 150 direct points.
You know, a couple of things. One because I'm such a local to
Disneyland and there there are two fantastic lounges.
There's one real lounge and then the other's the place that a
California adventure you can go pop in and say hello to the DVC
cast members at. I wanted, I wanted those member
perks, you know, for, for Disneyland, DVC ers.
We've had a lot of special perks in the last few months in terms
of special parade viewings and, and other things.
And because I go to the park so often, that was important to me
to just strategically have access to those.
And then the second thing was access to the unrestricted
resorts. So I knew or to all the resorts.
So I knew I wanted a certain pool of my points to be able to
use at all resorts going forward, but I didn't feel like
I needed all of my points to be unrestricted or be direct
because there are so many great options within the original 14.
So we felt like that was a happy medium.
And I think with any add-ons, we probably will just go the resale
route because for now those you know those 150, it's like great,
whatever comes next, we know we can utilize those, but then
let's continue to get the cost savings on the resale side for
any future points. You mentioned the lounges in
Disneyland and I would just like to say that we we visited both
lounges when we were out there last week, the one in DCA though
DVC Dan, our dear friend, went in the door.
It was closed but the door was unlocked and he goes in.
We didn't. Know it was closed.
We didn't. He goes in, he walks around and
then he comes back out. We then go around to the front
and see the sign that says it's closed.
But the but like right at 10:30 or whatever time it was, the
sign changes to open. It's still closed.
There's no one there. We also, we also thought we were
there to get in line for the for the parade viewing stuff, but it
was Sunday and that is only on Saturday.
Obviously we've just lost track of time and everything, but
there was nobody there. Absolutely no, except for Dan.
Yeah, you could come and meet DVC Dan.
It's too bad Derek wasn't with us 'cause we could have just set
up a resale shop inside the DVC Lounge.
They would have been really happy with it.
He could have been slinging contracts like crazy.
You could have sat there for a good hour at least Derek.
Or maybe all of Sunday. I don't know, maybe, maybe DVC
guides. I will say that I did not see
any guides working at any booths or anything throughout the week.
Like all the boots were empty. Amy and I stuck our head in the
Preview Center area at Grand Cal, and it was not necessarily
a welcoming experience, I would say.
Yeah, I just so Dan and Jeff did have a good experience.
They went over to the DVC area at the Disneyland Villas.
Obviously it's an actively selling resort, but they were
very nice. They gave them a lot of like,
really cool mementos. And Paul and I, we just kind of
stuck our heads in on the way to our room at Grand Cal.
And I was just like, hi, do you have any model rooms here?
And they looked at me and they're like bottles.
It's that West Virginia accent that yeah, it.
Could be it could be my own fault.
I said no, no. To that.
Point models. And we don't need to go into
the, to that point, we don't need to go into the weeds about
my experience. But I will say, I kind of feel
like the West Coast Disneyland folks still kind of are confused
about DVC, even in the hotel itself that I, we, we kind of
had a lot of miscommunications this weekend.
And it just kind of made it clear that probably some more
training needs needs to be set forth with with how they deal
with us weirdos. There's definitely a very little
comprehension of the properties that are out here on the East
Coast, I feel like, and they know a whole lot about
Disneyland Hotel and the tower. But you start talking about I, I
got into a conversation at the Star View Lounge with the lady
that showed me the model room there.
And we got into a conversation about the cabins.
And it, it just snowballed very quickly from there.
And I was just like, where's the, where's the escape button?
I need to push that right now to get out of this conversation.
But yeah, I would. I would agree.
But yeah, but anyway, when I cleared up that I had said model
rooms, they were just like, no. And then they were like, are you
a member? And we were like, yeah.
But normally that's where they're like, oh, we'll come in
and get like, your welcome home bag or whatever.
And it was just like, oh, OK, have a good one.
See you later. Yeah, it's, it was a very weird
disconnect. And like you said, none of the
booths were manned, none of the lounges were manned.
It was, it's kind of like just a free for all out there.
It's a very different DVC. But on that note, Disneyland is
amazing. Yes.
And we had an awesome time. We got to spend some time with
Carrie. She joined us Sunday, Sunday
evening and Friday. And for dinner, yeah.
Friday for a little bit at Jazz Kitchen.
She blew powdered sugar all over the table like Jeff did.
First impression. Amazing.
Yeah. We got the hangout at
Disneyland, we got the ride, a couple of rides with her.
So that was really nice as as people who live near or
basically at Disney World, it just felt really refreshing to
go over to the West Coast. So I'm curious, Carrie, as
someone who basically lives at Disneyland, like how do you feel
different when you come over to Disney World?
Good question. Yeah, I think it's, it's just
that experience that, that you had last weekend, right?
I think for us, I don't Disney World is not my backyard the way
Disneyland is. So, you know, Disneyland, I
think not that you can become complacent about Disney, but
it's, it's always been there, especially since I grew up in
Orange County. I, I can't even thousands of
times I've been to Disneyland. So I know that place like the
back of my hand when I go to Disney World, even though I'm
now going, you know, more than I used to, it's it's still very
special because, you know, you have the planning and you're
like, OK, what am I going to fit in on this trip?
What am I going to save for a, a future trip?
I don't know where everything. I don't know where all the
bathrooms are located the way I do it at Disneyland.
And I'm sure that will change as we we, you know, have been
members for longer. But there is something really
special about going to somewhere that just isn't in your backyard
every every day, right. On the plus side, like I, I know
I'm very lucky having Disneyland, being so close to
Disneyland and I know most members don't have that option
that close. But it is really special when
you know, I get to go to worlds. We also want to go to Vero Beach
and Hilton Head and have those new experiences and not be such
AI don't know such a local about it and get to experience the new
things. So in terms of Disney Vacation
Club, you're probably one of the newest members that we've
actually talked to on this show. What advice would you give to
someone considering to join the club?
Like what is that? What are those things that
you've either learned in this past year or learned in
researching that? Are those things that are really
going to be the things that someone need to focus on if
they're really considering this? Sure.
So I think the first thing, the first thing to do is really use
the community that we have at DVC fan.
So I, you can find my posts. I agonized over what to purchase
posted multiple times in the group and the group was so
supportive and helpful and helping me figure out what I
wanted to ultimately purchase. And then I, I read so many posts
around like how to just how to make the right decision.
But I think top, like the top few things that you really
should think about are, you know, 1, there's the direct
versus resale. I think sometimes people get
into their heads a little bit and feel like it's an either or
or it's like, I must make this decision right now and this is
for life. You know, you can, it's a, your
life is long. So you have the option to make a
decision right now and then change a few years from now.
You can always add on. You can always sell a contract.
So don't get so obsessed with the like, what is the perfect
right decision for here and now? Because your life will change
too over time. And then how your vacation will
change. So I, I say basically, if you're
considering it and you've run the numbers and it feels like it
makes sense to you, jump in. Don't don't feel like I did
going back. We didn't even talk about the
search I did before I got my husband on board and how long I,
I, you know, really thought about it myself.
I would say when you get to a comfortable spot, just do it.
And then you can always, you know, iterate from there.
That's the first thing I would say.
I think the second thing is really do you think about, are
you the type of person who really cares about your home
resort availability and you are always going to want to stay at
your home resort? Or are you somebody like me
who's more willing to just kind of bounce around and and try
different resorts out? And then if, if you're that
category, I wouldn't worry so much about the seven month
availability because there are way more options than I thought
there would be at seven months. And sometimes people get again,
really in their head about, Oh my gosh, there's not going to be
anything available at seven months.
Most times out of the area, you kind of have your choice of, of
where to stay. So if you're flexible, like
there's, there's so many different options available to
you as ADVC member. Again, I would say just kind of
don't, don't overanalyze the situation, you know, make your
decisions and then jump in knowing that you can always
change it up, you know, later down the line.
Great advice, great advice, and for everyone out there, Carrie
is available for 4995. She will build your family a
PowerPoint presentation so. I.
Have to raise my rates, Derek. Worst ideas have been presented,
worst ideas have been so. But there's a business
opportunity there for sure, for sure, for sure.
Hey, I, I have a question for, for Carrie kind of building up
that, which again, Carrie, you nailed it perfectly because I
think I mentioned it on maybe a show a couple of weeks ago is
like the people that look into DVC now have such an advantage
because you know, for folks like us 20 years ago, I don't even
think there was like an Internet.
There was nothing. So now you've got all these
groups and DVC fan and you know, all these fantastic places where
you can watch room tour videos and everything else.
So that is huge. I have a question for you, which
I'm curious, because we know we're doing a show like this and
we all talk about, oh, DVC is the best thing in the world.
It'll change your life and your kids lives and your neighbors
lives. It's it's perfect.
Have you experienced anything at all so far being a DVC member
that made you think, you know what?
That's not quite what I thought it was going to be.
Not that it's, you know, super negative, which you can share,
but I'm just curious, is there anything that I thought it was
going to be this, But you know what, it's okay, but it wasn't
quite what I thought. It was going to being on this
show is the answer to that question.
This isn't a negative, but obvious.
This is a huge positive. I never saw myself being a DVC
fan contributor when I bought the contract three years ago.
Never. I have AI have a close friend
who watches the show, close friends who watch the show and I
when I texted her and said, OK, I guess I'm I'm writing for DVC
fan now. Never in my wildest dreams.
I think that buying a DVC entourage was going to lead to
this. And it's been and also just the
power of community, right? Like never.
I was still happy to get to meet Paul and Amy and Jeff and and
everyone else over the weekend. Like never imagined that that
that that is where my life in the last year and a half would
lead to. And that's been spectacular in
terms of like. Surprises maybe I don't like to
say negative neutral surprises. I think I probably spend a
little bit too much time online at at different forums.
And so I do think there's a there's AI was surprised by the
number like the amount of negativity that can be out there
around a product that we all know and love the other.
This is like random, but the other thing that was surprising
was just kind of just around how much people nitpick right to me.
Again, I, I said I bought my DVC contract to have contracts to
have so many memories and, and, and things like, you know, just
wonderful trips. I'm not gonna nitpick like a
baseboard being slightly out of whack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yep. And yeah, yeah, that was, that
was surprising to me. But luckily, like I would say,
you know, 95 plus percent of people on the Internet are
really supportive and wonderful. So I would just say ignore that
noise. You know, I try not to, but
yeah, that was a little surprising.
Like we've all purchased this very expensive contract like
product. Let's go use it and enjoy it.
Yeah, so. Absolutely.
You know, I've, I've said for years that the DVC community,
excuse me, the Disney community is a double edged sword.
They are the absolute best fans and the absolute worst fans
because we love the product so much.
And, and Walt, I think originally started this because
he'd come into the living room and he would share what's next
and, and do all these big presentations.
He would love PowerPoint if he were alive in this day and age,
you know, but it kind of gave us a little bit of ownership in the
company. We feel like even though we
don't, and so when they change something that we don't agree
with or or they make a decision that we don't agree with, man,
we can take something we love and turn on it so, so quickly.
So yeah, it's it's hard to turn out that noise sometimes.
But I see what you're saying for sure.
Yeah, I. Mean on the flip side, right, it
keeps the Disney brand and and products really strong, right?
We hold them to such a high bar that I try to look at it from a,
you know, a place that people, like you said, Jeff, really care
about the Disney brand. We all love it so much.
So I try to assume positive intent, but, you know,
sometimes, like, let's lighten up a little bit and, you know,
just have a little fun with a product we've spent so much
money on. Sometimes the curmudgeon comes
out. Yeah.
Jeff bought this on Sunday when we were at DCA and we called it
like his shoulder curmudgeon. So anytime, anytime he's.
Going to when I'm about to go on a rant, he's going to go on my
shoulder. So everybody knows Carrie, I
have one follow up question that has nothing to do with anything
but I I need a tiebreaker because we were doing while
we're at Disneyland, who did it better, Disney World or
Disneyland? We'd ride a ride that both parks
have, and then I take a vote with the group.
We're evenly split on one and. And you have to be the
tiebreaker. So sorry to put you on the spot,
but I need you to tell me which park did it better, Walt Disney
World or Disneyland when it comes to Haunted Mansion?
Oh. I knew that was going to be the
one. Oh, so easy.
You don't know. You haven't been there since you
were like this. I want I want to specify not the
not the light layover, not the holiday layover, the original
Haunted Mansion. The original I always default to
to Disneyland doing it better. And my reason is is that is the
one that like has the actual elevator has like that is that
is Walt's park. And that was one of his original
ideas. If you go look at the history of
what he wanted to put into Disneyland, he wanted to put
some sort of, you know, haunted type attraction into the park.
But OK, I'm gonna, it's kind of a cop out.
Like I actually prefer Disney World's version.
So I would, OK, I'm changing my answer.
I'm going to say Disney World is better.
But I have a rich appreciation for Disneyland.
Like Disney World has the extra scenes.
It's, you know, it is, it is a more I, I, I enjoy the Disney
World version more than the Disneyland version, but I also
really appreciate the history of the Disneyland version.
So told no reason for me only. One that was a tie, that was the
only one that was closed so. How did everyone vote?
I know, Paul, you. Me and these two were were
Disney World. Jeff and Dan preferred
Disneyland and and basically DVC.
Dan said almost verbatim what you said because of the
elevator. I'm like.
They were so it was their first time though.
And I, and again, it's that East Coast, West Coast concept where
when we got in there and the elevator made, it's like first
jolt. Jeff and Dan were like, oh,
we're this is a real elevator. We're going somewhere and it's
like to experience that for the first time.
I remember the first time that I did it.
And if it had been the first time I was riding that, my
answer would probably be different.
Now you throw in the holiday overlay, there is no
competition. This is not a not a competitive
event, Yeah. Although I I mean as a
Disneyland local, the holiday overlay irritates me because it
is four months out of the year that it is not Haunted Mansion.
I, I love it. I love the holiday.
I love, you know, Haunted Mansion holiday, love it, hate
that it's a third of the year that Haunted Mansion is taken
over by it. So I have mixed feelings year
after year. I love seeing the new
gingerbread house but also sometimes I just want to ride
the OG Haunted Mansion and I'm like oh great I got to wait till
February to to do it and it's September you know?
So I have mixed feelings about the the overlay.
As a as a follow up to that, how many months out of the year do
you figure Matterhorn is closed? Is it like 11?
Do you think they're going to get rid of it?
No. I don't think they're going to
get rid of it, but I do think, I mean, I, I do think it is closed
more often than it is not. That is, that is how it feels as
it is even a local and let's be honest, it's jerky and it's not
the best. It's a good good back adjustment
every time you go on it. So I love it.
Chiropractor appointment that month.
Would I even be able to fit in it or no?
Good, Really. Yeah, yeah.
You can fit in space. Mountain at Disney World you can
fit in the. Yeah, if I like lather.
Through his knees, but he can fist.
If I lather up my sides with butter, I can slip into the car
there in Space Mountain, I mean, you'll.
Be comfortable or feel safe whatsoever, but I'm sure you
will pass all their checks. There's a minimum height.
I don't know that there's a maximum man.
Book booking that trip to Disneyland right now.
You sold me. It's closed.
Carrie, this is the part of the show which we all get nervous
for because we've peppered you with questions for the past
hour, but we give you the opportunity to ask us some
question to know a little bit more about us, like we have
learned a little bit about you. So if you could ask the four of
us any question, what would that be?
Oh gosh, any question I want, I'm going to keep it DVC related
for for this one. But I'm curious because I've
been giving this a lot of thought recently.
I obviously we know Lakeshore Lodge is coming.
What? But beyond that we don't know.
But if you could build or design any DVC, what would what would
it be? Hold on, let me pull up the
PowerPoint presentation Amy's. Amy's got pictures galore of
this doghouse lodge. What was it called?
Oh, you know. Canine Canine Lodge.
Did we have a show about this that I'm blanking on?
We did and we used. It's been.
A while though. It's been a while.
It has been a while. I didn't give you a new
question. Maybe no, it's a good question
because I think I would have changed my answer.
Yeah. Jeff, what's your answer?
I want a DVC resort in Disney World that functions like the
Grand Cal where you have entrance into a park.
I don't even necessarily care which park it goes into.
It seems like building villains land with a villains themed
hotel next door is a no brainer. Something at Epcot where you can
enter the World Showcase directly through your own
private entrance. Even Hollywood Studios as a Star
Wars themed. They missed that opportunity
when they turned Star Cruiser into more offices, even a
walkway from animal Kingdom. I would I would accept, but
something that gives us that special, I call it a secret
door. You know, as we were leaving the
other night to go back and change clothes and and come back
to the park, Paul was like, OK, bye, I'm going to the Grand Cal
and walked. Through this little.
Thing and the rest of us had to walk through the turnstiles like
peasants. You know, it's that's one thing
that I would really like to see out here at Disney World.
And with 23 hotels, I'm just shocked that that they haven't
done that yet. For anyone that's a listener to
our friends over at the Disney Dish podcast, Len Testa and Jim
Hill, they actually recently on a show, we're talking about how
they're about to do some road construction on that area around
Coronado Springs and Blizzard Beach to actually open up an 100
plus acre parcel of land. I believe it is in that area
which could actually be a back door into Hollywood Studios.
I think it is so I your your wish, Jeff, of having some
entrance that some resort gives to a theme park.
I think that within the next 5 to 10 years, we're going to see
that become a reality. Or.
No, it's not going to happen. Adding a DVC tower.
Well, that's the that's the thought about this property,
though, is that it's an easy straight shot from the where the
sky liner currently is. So rather than actually have to
do a offshoot or something, they could somehow just tie it into
the existing line. I don't know.
Go listen. They're wonderful friends.
We talked about this with Jeff and Dan walking in through,
through Downtown Disney from the Disneyland Hotel.
Even the fact that you can get on the monorail there and go
right into the park from outside of the park.
I mean, it's just something that I don't know, I could talk
forever, but I just, I'm, I think that's a mess for Disney
World. There's so many opportunities to
include those hotels into the into the parks themselves.
I will go next and tell you that my answer has changed, but this
answer will never come to fruition I don't think, because
I think they've given up on concepts like this.
Oh no, I wonder if you're going to say the same thing I am.
I think putting it, putting a new resort on a Caribbean island
that's. Exactly what I was.
Going to say we're married for some reason I.
Want an all inclusive because I love Alani.
How? Much are those points?
OK, it doesn't have to be all inclusive, but the way what I
was thinking is I love Aulani. I love the idea of a relaxing
beach vacation. I love Vero, but I want
something tropical. This accessible I want.
Blue. Blue.
Water and not have to go clear out to Aulani.
We recently as part of our California trip, Amy and I did a
four night cruise that left out of Long Beach, went to Catalina
Island for one of its stops. And Carrie, what I know there's
a shuttle that goes there daily. How long do you know how long it
takes to get there by that shuttle?
Yeah, it depends. There's a couple different boat
options, but like 75 to 90 minutes if you take that, that's
not bad at all. See.
I'm wondering if there's some island that that they could
build on that would be like that 75 to 90 minute range from one
of the Florida ports where they could get you there.
You could then get off, stay at this Disney Vacation Club
property, and then, you know, get on that shuttle on the day
you're coming home and come back.
I think there are Bahamas islands that you can take like a
ferry from very, very South of Florida.
So yeah, I love that idea. I want a Caribbean DVC.
Well, and I, I know Virgin Voyages, they were testing this
for a while. I don't know if it's still
going, I'll have to check. But you had the option when you
put your Virgin voyage because they only do short cruises out
of out of Miami. You could go to their Bimini
Beach Club Island. They don't own any property
there. They lease it from, I can't
remember the the hotel chain, but you had the option of
getting off your cruise, staying there and getting on the next
cruise that came in three or four days later.
So I mean, it's not like this is an unheard of situation.
They just need to buy up the property and and get it done
sounds. Of ice cream.
Derek, what's your pick? Oh, mine hasn't changed.
It's still at Walt Disney World. It's a Disney Greek Isles
Resort. I think it would be amazing.
I think it'd be beautiful. I think it'd be perfect for
Disney Vacation Club to do it because I think you have these
buildings. Just imagine them, you know,
look like Santorini. The white buildings with the
blue roofs. You could have great
restaurants. You can put it around Bay Lake.
I don't know. I just think that would be a,
that would be a slam dunk. So that's still my choice.
That's awesome. Carrie, do you have an answer to
your own question? So I'm OK, so I'm torn.
I was thinking between like a new resort at Disney World
versus Paul and Amy, your idea that was that was option one was
the Caribbean island. Like I would I would buy so many
points that my husband, I don't know, hopefully wouldn't divorce
me, but like I forget the PowerPoints like I would be all
in on on that and just buy and. Ask for forgiveness later.
Yeah, that's exactly, yeah, that's pro tip there.
But actually I was I was wondering, you know, with I
don't know how much land is behind Magic Kingdom with
villains land opening up. Do you all know how much land is
is back there? That's anyway assuming there
might be land. There's.
Yeah, that's what I figured, right?
I was looking at the map and I was, I would love a villains
themed resort tied in. We could go with Jeff's entrance
into the park. You know, in 2045 when Villains
Land finally opens, we could get a TVC resort that's villains
themed and you know, it goes right into the the back.
If there was a back entrance to the Magic Kingdom I would love
that. Yeah, so.
That would be awesome that. Would be awesome.
Bye. Anyway, do you want me to give
you 1 idea we haven't talked about?
Sure, yeah. OK, sorry.
Sorry to cut you. Off No, you're fine.
My my other question was going to be if you could travel
anywhere not Disney related. So what?
Like where is #1 on your travel bucket list?
Not Disney related in any shape or form.
Nor I. Ask this question of these guys
all the time. I know these.
Friends of mine, I want to go to Norway so bad.
And part of it is Disney that's maybe want to go there, you
know, just like being in the Norway pavilion, seeing Frozen,
just really maybe want to like see that Nordic area.
So that's fine. Mine is wow.
We actually are planning to go to for my 40th birthday in 2027,
which will be, I want to go on a German river cruise to the
Christmas markets. So Amy is terrible at surprises,
said she was going to keep it a surprise.
I was going to try for one whole year because it's two years out
and I lasted like 2 days I'm. Very bad at this though, too,
because I ask leading questions and if you play into it, I'm
going to figure it out pretty quickly.
But yeah, that has been the top of my list for a while.
To go to Germany, experience the Christmas markets, just be in
that area for a long time. My answer was Australia until I
learned about large spiders and sandworms.
The TikTok sandworms scared them away.
Yeah, so I'm good. I'm good on an Australian.
I'd like to go there, Jeff. Tahiti, Fiji, Somewhere where I
can be in an overwater bungalow in a swimming suit like 90% of
the time, that's where I really, really want to go.
They have them right down the street at the Polynesian.
You can. You can get in the water.
Oh yeah. No.
Oh yeah, no, don't do that. There's a plunge pool.
Derek, where do you want to travel?
Hold on, let me let me let my dog out there.
We'll go, go. So I would say.
Right now. Right now, I would say that
something that we've talked about all the time that we would
love to be able to do because when I was working for Disney,
Disney Vacation Club and Disney Cruise Line, we got to go almost
everywhere all over the world, you know, including Norway, all
those places. One place I haven't been that my
wife and I would love to go to, especially because it's our 30th
wedding anniversary coming up, is Lake Como in Italy.
I've always wanted hold there. We've watched YouTube videos up
the wazoo every year. We always go, so this is our
year. We're going to plan it.
You know, something happens, so you're like, OK, well, maybe
next year we'll do it. But Lake Como in Italy, we go
there with our friends, George Clooney and his wife, which
we're really, really tight with. That would be amazing to me.
I would love that. And if we can't do that, we'll
just go to Gatorland, you know? There's a Lake Como add on to
our river cruise and two years in advance and it's the only one
that's already sold out. Oh wow, did.
We buy it, people must love it. No, it's like 4000 extra a
person. Nuts.
Well, we tried. Carrie, I feel like you're the
most well travelled of all of us.
Since you lived actually in a foreign country, where is your
dream destination? So we have a trip coming up to
my dream destination, which now will soon no longer be a dream,
but we are going to Japan, which has been on my list since I was
a little girl. We're going in November.
We're going to go to Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea.
I just booked the Hotel Mira Costa at Tokyo Disneysea, and
I'm, like, still pinching myself that what's actually happening.
But that trip will soon be upon us.
So my other trip is completely in the opposite direction.
I really want to go to Antarctica.
I want to go to Antarctica. Yeah, like, I have friends that
have gone. I actually have a friend who
works on on an expedition cruise, so he goes to Antarctica
fairly regularly. His photos are the most
beautiful, least breathtaking pictures in the world.
And I think National Geographic might be doing cruises to
Antarctica now, like. They do.
Yeah, So I was like, OK, well, there's like the Disney sort of
tie in as well. We're waiting.
My son is about to turn 9. We're waiting till he's a little
bit older and it's expensive, so we're gonna be.
Saving. For a while, but that is number
one on my bucket list right now. See how many people want to go
to Antarctica We. Should train in my own boat.
This is. Amy Krieger and I have talked
about this before too. Like yes, we that's that's the
one cruise that just seems so hard to obtain, but I want to go
so bad. My dad and I had the opportunity
and I I'm so mad that it didn't happen because it was like a
gajillion dollars. But Jimmy Buffett actually
chartered a boat and did a was going to do a concert on the
shores of Antarctica so that he could say he did a concert on
all 7 continents. He cancelled it for obvious
reasons. But my dad and I seriously
looked at the money. It was going to be like $18,000
a person. Oh my.
Gosh. But we seriously would have been
such a because he was going to do concerts on the boat and
everything else. And you know me, I'm a huge
Buffett fan. But yeah, that would have been
amazing. I can make that much in a live
stream with you and your bathing suit in Tahiti in like 10
minutes. So I mean.
I'm not against it, but I don't I think you're overshooting the
budget there. Never.
Know Antarctica is a great answer and we can all plan
together. Let's go.
Yeah, I think it sounds really cool and yes it sounds like a
quote UN quote bucket list. I guarantee you 2 days in of
wearing like a snowsuit non-stop while on a boat looking at ice.
I'll be like OK, can I go can I go to Lake Como now?
No, thank you. I.
Just want to see Derek in his snowsuit.
It's been a it's been a joy having you here tonight.
We will definitely have to have you on another show in the near
future because I think you bring a lot of good perspectives, both
having a young kid, being on the West Coast, being someone that's
a little bit further away that does have to travel all the way
here to Walt Disney World, where we we do talk a lot about Walt
Disney World because that's the bulk of Disney Vacation Club.
But there is some on the West Coast.
There is some in the middle of the ocean in Elani and another
destination. So it's great to have a
perspective of someone else joining us.
So thank you so much for joining us and and being a part of the
conversation. Thank you, it was so fun.
Happy to come back anytime. Yeah.
Excited to to keep watching. Well, that is going to do it for
this weeks episode of the DVC show.
We're all going to go and I don't know.
Record our other two shows. Record our other two shows I
guess, so I wasn't. Sure where you're going with
that? I don't.
I don't know where I'm going anytime.
You know that, Jeff, hey, like this, subscribe to the things,
push the buttons, do all that kind of stuff.
I guess I never really say that all that often, but Jeff just
had an earthquake, so we're going to check that out in a
second. But that's going to do it for
this week's episode of The DVC Show.
We hope you enjoyed it and we will see you next Monday.
I'm going to put my snowsuit on. See you later.
Bye, Derek.