1 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Happy Saturday everyone, and welcome to this special live 2 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,280 edition of the DVC Show. We look half awake I feel like. 3 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,160 I should have. I made you coffee and I should 4 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,240 have made myself coffee. No, we know what happens when 5 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,160 you drink coffee. I am your host, Paul Krieger, as 6 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,320 always, joined by my lovely wife, Amy Krieger. 7 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:22,800 It's just the two of us this morning on a Saturday morning. 8 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,640 We didn't want to get Derek out of bed and Jeff somewhere in the 9 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,080 middle of the ocean on a cruise ship. 10 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,800 So our normal crew is separated. We're, we're filming regular 11 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,560 shows coming up this Monday. So, so one reason we needed to 12 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,600 do this was because we needed to kind of do a filler show so that 13 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,120 this will be this week's episode of the DVC show. 14 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,800 For anyone that clicks on Monday and wonders why there's no new 15 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,880 episode out. It's kind of that holiday 16 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,720 season. We're all busy doing a million. 17 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,160 Yeah, everything's crazy. But also, we just had all kinds 18 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,640 of big news drop. And so we want to make sure that 19 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,160 we get ahead of that, you know, that we're not just, you know, 20 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,400 waiting. You're not waiting for us to 21 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,760 film on Monday and whatever. So, yeah, we're here to talk 22 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,720 about, you know, all the things. We know there's a lot of things 23 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,880 on your mind. You know, we have that new feed 24 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,880 to talk about. We've got point charts that just 25 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,720 came out, you know, might touch a little bit on annual dues, but 26 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,640 we are going to talk about those more when we have the rest of 27 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:24,280 the team together. But yeah, we're we're happy to 28 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,120 be here. We went for a run this morning 29 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,560 and in my head we were going for a 5K and then Paul was like 30 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,480 let's just do 5. Oh, no, no, wait, wait, no, 31 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,560 let's, let's let's put this out there correctly. 32 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Amy looks over at me at one point and goes it's OK if we go 33 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,440 a little further and I'm like, OK. 34 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Yeah, well. What's a? 35 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,800 What was a little further to you 4? 36 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,120 OK, well. No, it was, it was good. 37 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,480 We actually we should be going a lot further. 38 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,000 We're just don't have the time right now. 39 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,960 Aaron said. Now I need to know what happens 40 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,240 when Amy drinks coffee. Aaron, if she drinks coffee and 41 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,720 you're around, she's your. Responsibility all night? 42 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,160 No, I just can't sleep even if I drink it in the morning. 43 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Well, thank you guys for tuning in on a Saturday morning during 44 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,040 the holiday season and joining us for kind of some live DVC 45 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,960 discussion. This is going to mainly be AQ 46 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,600 and A, but we do have a lot of kind of breaking news as Amy 47 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,280 mentioned that we want to kind of get get some new information 48 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,120 out about. Before we get to that. 49 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,080 Something that I just wanted to kind of start the show with is 50 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,880 an incredible thank you to our entire community for what you 51 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,720 did during our Keys to Kindness slash Give Back November 52 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,960 campaign that we did to benefit Give Kids the World Village. 53 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,320 The numbers have been tallied and everything. 54 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,040 All told, this year alone, we broke every record that we've 55 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,840 ever attempted or tried for or anything over $45,000 raised. 56 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Forgive Kids the World. And I think that's incredible 57 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,960 because it really just shows how much our community cares about 58 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,840 this cause. And it's, it's just been a 59 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,920 wonderful thing to be a part of. Yeah, and, and there was a lot 60 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,160 of different ways that you could donate. 61 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,120 You know, we had the the cruise giveaway and the T-shirt sale 62 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,640 and then we had general donations. 63 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,000 But I'm just impressed with the amount of people that took part 64 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,240 and just, you know, so many of those things, some in multiple, 65 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,959 you know, aspects of the He's the Kindness campaign. 66 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:25,320 So yeah, thank you guys so much. It was just so awesome to see 67 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,880 see those numbers, know the impact that's going to have on 68 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,280 give kids the world and granting, you know, wish trips 69 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:35,520 for families. If you did enter our giveaway, 70 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,840 they are kind of tallying the results right now. 71 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Everything has to be very formalized and official. 72 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,400 That's all managed by Give Kids the World. 73 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,200 We reached out to them last week and they said they would be 74 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,040 getting us a winner here within the next week or two. 75 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,280 And we'll be sure to announce that on the show and on our DVC 76 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:52,880 fan Facebook group socials, all that kind of fun stuff. 77 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,960 So information on who won that opportunity to head on the Key 78 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:02,640 Holder cruise with us next year. And also something is that if 79 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,280 you did not get the opportunity to donate, our donation page is 80 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:08,880 still open. So general donations are still 81 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,000 being accepted. If you go to 82 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,880 keyholdervacations.com/kindness, you can actually head over and 83 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,600 donate if you are willing to do so. 84 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:25,480 Also over on that page, Key Holder vacations.com/group 85 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,480 Cruise, we have information for our Key Holder group cruise that 86 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,720 we are doing July 20th through the 24th on Utopia of the Seas. 87 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,280 We have an incredible group of people already committed to 88 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,960 going with us and we're kind of doing our final pushes here for 89 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,320 this cruise. So if you are interested in 90 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,080 joining us, now is the time to lock in that vacation. 91 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:50,600 I would imagine that probably right after the first of the 92 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,080 year, we will kind of call this thing sold out. 93 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,840 And for those of you kind of on the fence, stay tuned for an 94 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:57,400 upcoming episode. I think it's going to go up the 95 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,240 week of Christmas or the week after Christmas. 96 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,320 I'm not quite sure of the exact timing, but we are going to do a 97 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,280 deep dive into Royal Caribbean Cruise Line because we've had a 98 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:10,600 lot of you reaching out to us wondering why we love Royal 99 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Caribbean so much. So we're going to tell you 100 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,560 everything there is to know or Amy's going to tell you 101 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,960 everything there is to know about Royal Caribbean and 102 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,240 everything like that. But yeah, happy Saturday. 103 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,840 I hope you all have some coffee and are ready for some 104 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,320 conversation here. I'm trying to do like a screen 105 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,800 share thing here and it's probably going to epically fail, 106 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,120 but we're going to see how it goes. 107 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,360 The thing that we really want to kick off this morning with is 108 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,280 probably the biggest rumbling that's been happening over the 109 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:47,200 course of the past couple days has been this new $500 DVC 110 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,440 resale admin fee that's going to be added to Disney Vacation Club 111 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,320 resale contract sales come January 1st. 112 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,480 Yeah. So it's, this is a very 113 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,080 interesting development, not uncommon in the timeshare 114 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,640 industry. But the look on Paul's face, 115 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,920 he's not some of his computer. I don't have enough. 116 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,480 I don't have enough screens this morning. 117 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,920 So initially we do have a little bit more information to share 118 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,200 about this that we just got this morning that Paul's going to to 119 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,640 give you. But before we get into that, 120 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:28,760 this started from basically a, a fan, I guess you say, of the 121 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,200 show that also has purchased with DVC resale market. 122 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Happened to notice that this was added to the frequently asked 123 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,960 questions page of of Disney Vacation Club's website where 124 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,480 they talk about, you know, resale and how to resell your 125 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,560 contract. And it was just, you know, 126 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,680 somebody pointing it out that it just happened to show up there. 127 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Yeah, shout out, shout out to Dan who actually sent this to 128 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,520 us. He must have been scooping the 129 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,200 DVCDVC website at late hours of the night. 130 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Yeah, you just never know what you're going to find on there. 131 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,600 My goodness. If it's if it's working. 132 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,560 So, so that led obviously to, you know, doing some research 133 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,920 within, you know, our abilities and in our companies just to see 134 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,680 how this is going to affect, you know, everybody in the community 135 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,120 that, you know, a lot of you obviously purchase sell by 136 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:26,720 resale at first for the first several days. 137 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,320 I think we found out about this. What, maybe Monday. 138 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Yeah, there was no response from Disney Vacation Club. 139 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,080 We know several title companies in the resale DVC space and 140 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,360 brokers that reached out for clarifications. 141 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,840 We've had a lot of questions coming from you guys. 142 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,360 Unfortunately, we did not have any answers at that time. 143 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:53,720 The responses that we did get from DVC themselves were, I'm 144 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,920 sorry, we don't know anything about this yet. 145 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,720 We haven't been, you know, informed yet. 146 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,680 So at that point in time, up until this morning, there was 147 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:06,400 no, you know, we didn't know how this, you know what the actual 148 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,280 time frame was. We knew it said January 1st, but 149 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,600 did that mean closing January 1st or things submitted to 150 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,000 Disney for a first refusal January 1st or you know exactly 151 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,440 what that meant? A lot of people are asking is 152 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,880 this going to be a buyer or a seller fee? 153 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,560 We're going to get into some of that and our thoughts on that. 154 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Some of this is what we have recently learned. 155 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,560 Some of it is going to be speculation. 156 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:32,920 So we'll be sure to clear up what's what as as we discussed 157 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,400 this, this new development, but it is important to know that it 158 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,800 is new. There's still going to be 159 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,440 questions. There's still a lot left to be 160 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:48,080 clarified by DVC. And also, Oh my gosh, I had one 161 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,240 more thing that I was going to say. 162 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,120 It's gone. I lost. 163 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,440 So let's get into the details of kind of what this means for you 164 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,600 if you are shopping DVC resale contracts at the moment. 165 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,800 So this $500 fee is essentially going to be a closing cost, 166 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,480 correct? Yes, this is going to be added 167 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,960 as a closing cost to DVC resale transactions come January 1st. 168 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Now many of you that are up to date on what's been going on in 169 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,120 this space are kind of going January 1st question mark. 170 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,160 So we did receive overnight an update from Disney Vacation Club 171 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,120 directly that did provide some clarity. 172 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,640 And we have been assuming that you know, based off of the speed 173 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,160 we've seen things moving through Roefer right now. 174 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,320 I think I saw our, our average Roefer timeline is down to under 175 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,360 2 weeks at the moment, so 14 days. 176 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:35,520 I made a note of that in the most recent wrote for report 177 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,280 that I wrote for resale Market about how it was 17 days. 178 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,680 It has gotten even less and my speculation was that they are 179 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:44,440 trying to push these contracts out before the first of the year 180 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,240 for this new fee. So specifically speaking to the 181 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,280 fee, Disney Vacation Club has said that this $500 contract 182 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,560 administration fee or CAF fee or calf or whatever you want to 183 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:03,240 call it is for the services provided by DVC member 184 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:09,000 management during the vacation. Let me see vacation ocean 185 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,400 interest acquired from the secondary market basically 186 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,760 because of the volume. This fee is needed to address 187 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,240 costs associated with the activation of new member and the 188 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,600 administrative process of the system changes involved with the 189 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,400 transfer of a resale contract. Now the big one that everyone 190 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,280 has been questioning and that was solidified this morning. 191 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,320 The fee will apply to all contracts signed on or after 192 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,560 January 1st, 2026 and must be paid before the ownership 193 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:41,840 transfer is completed. So it will be paid for as part 194 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,840 of that closing process. But the important note, a lot of 195 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,280 people have been in limbo whether or not you've just 196 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,600 submitted a contract to Roefer or you've been in that process 197 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,160 and you know that you weren't going to close until after 198 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,840 January 1st. The official terminology that 199 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,280 was provided by Disney Vacation Club is saying that this fee 200 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,280 will apply to all contracts signed on or after January 1st. 201 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,520 So if you are in the pipeline right now in the process of 202 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,600 purchasing or selling a contract, it's not going to 203 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,080 affect you. Or if you are looking to add a 204 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,160 contract under the Christmas tree, DVC resale market can 205 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,560 help. And if you do so and get that 206 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:22,680 contract signed and into the process before the end of the 207 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:25,440 year, you're going to not have to. 208 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,280 Worry about that though, I would keep in mind this is we're in a 209 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,840 holiday month. And so, you know, I would not 210 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,960 come into making, I would not go in making an offer on like New 211 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Year's Eve expecting it to be all signed and done and sent out 212 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,640 to Disney before January 1st. You know, so, so be a little 213 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,080 realistic about that. Think about the holidays. 214 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,520 If you are trying to get in before this fee takes place, you 215 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,600 want to give more time for for that because you know you're 216 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,800 going to be negotiating possibly with a seller. 217 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,840 You might go back and forth a little bit and then you have to 218 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,640 wait for both parties to sign the contract before it can get 219 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,920 sent to Disney. So in order for that to occur 220 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,200 before January 1st, you want to give some time, you know, before 221 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,440 that date. So at least maybe a handful of 222 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,640 days or so. Like I'm sure your real resale 223 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,920 agent can guide you on on that. We've also we've had some 224 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:25,720 questions on if this takes the place of the estoppel or if it 225 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,080 is in addition to the estoppel fee and and we don't have an 226 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,080 answer on that yet, correct. Correct. 227 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,120 And let's just clear up where we think these two fees are going 228 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,440 to lie real quick. Estoppel historically has been a 229 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,480 fee that's associated with the seller of that contract. 230 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,480 This is basically the seller kind of verifying with Disney 231 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,080 Vacation Club during this sale process that the contract is 232 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,480 current, your dues are paid your your loan if you have one with 233 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,600 DVC is paid and verifying the points on the contract at that. 234 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,120 And to take that a step further, if you do a refinance of an 235 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,560 existing contract, you also have to pay Disney for an estoppel on 236 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,240 that. So we do a lot of refinances at 237 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Monera. That $150.00 estoppel to Disney 238 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,560 is part of the closing costs on a refinance. 239 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,120 So the estoppel fee has nothing to do with transfer of 240 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,800 ownership. It's just fully a verification 241 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,600 of the contract, the owner, the points like you said, the due 242 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,480 status, you know, making sure there's no default loan with 243 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,160 Disney or anything like that. So that occurs whether you're 244 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,800 refinancing or selling a contract. 245 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,400 So because of that, it is our speculation and this is where we 246 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,120 are speculating that that $150.00 stable fee will not be 247 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,760 part of this $500. If they're going to be two 248 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,120 separate fees, the $150.00 stable continuing to be the 249 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,080 seller's responsibility and likely this $500 fee going to 250 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,560 the buyers as this is very typical in the timeshare 251 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,320 industry that this is a buyer's fee. 252 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Most other timeshare companies, you know, you look at the 253 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Marriott's, you look at Wyndham's, they all have similar 254 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,200 fees and they both have both fees. 255 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,960 So they still have an estoppel fee and they still have the 256 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,760 contract administration fee. So again, we're kind of 257 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,400 speculating at this point. Our, our admin teams at DVC 258 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,000 Resale Market have gone back to Disney Vacation Club with this 259 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,880 specific question because we know a lot of you in the 260 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,160 community have been asking it, but we have gone back to them to 261 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,400 ask specifically if that estoppel fee still applies. 262 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,480 We'll let you know as soon as we have that information. 263 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,400 I think the biggest news that comes out of all of this is, 264 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,080 again, like if you are in that window, probably, you know, Amy, 265 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,760 Amy spoke to, you want to avoid the holiday season. 266 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,080 You want to avoid the chaos before the end of the year. 267 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,960 And like, to your point, if I'm sitting down at my holiday 268 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,880 dinner, my priority is not going to be to sign that contract if 269 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,120 it comes over to me, you know, on New Year's Eve or something. 270 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,400 So you don't want to put yourself up against that window. 271 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,160 But at the end of the day, I think that if you are 272 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,480 considering a resale contract and you want to not have to 273 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,640 worry about that $500 fee, you know, everything's going to be 274 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,160 $500 more come, come January 1st at the end of the day. 275 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,040 And we'll get into kind of what that means for contract values 276 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,920 and everything in a little bit. But yeah, curious as to your 277 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,680 questions. Curious as to your thoughts. 278 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,760 I do have a few that I want to address some questions. 279 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,360 So Mason Keel 52O3 asked will will drive down the price per 280 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,760 point on smaller contracts like 5060 points. 281 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,400 We don't know yet, but it is possible. 282 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,440 So basically the cost per point, you know, the market is going to 283 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,920 be dictated by two things how much are sellers willing to let 284 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,680 their contract go for and how much are buyers willing to 285 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,160 purchase it for. So you know, but it is 286 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,960 completely buyer and seller dependent on what people are 287 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,240 willing to pay and what people are willing to sell for. 288 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,079 So only time is gonna kind of show us where those prices 289 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:15,520 equal, you know kind of settle at. 290 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,359 And it is possible because you are talking especially with a 291 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,760 small contract. You take take a 25 point 292 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,280 contract for example. You take that $500 and split it 293 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,720 up and now you've got an extra $20 per point. 294 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,400 Correct me if I'm wrong, my fast math in my head is not. 295 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,920 How many points? 25, yeah, you did good, awesome. 296 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,560 50 points obviously like an extra time per point. 297 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,960 That's significant, you know, when it comes to buying. 298 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,760 So we may see those prices adjust a little bit on something 299 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,280 a lot larger, you know, for example, like a $26,000 300 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,560 contract, we're talking less than a 2% increase, you know, I 301 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:57,280 mean like 1.9 something percent. So, you know, again, we're gonna 302 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,800 have to wait and see how the market reacts. 303 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,880 You guys are the market. We don't dictate that you, the 304 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,040 buyers and the sellers are the market. 305 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,240 And so you kind of can decide what you're willing to pay, what 306 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,960 you're willing to sell for. The other question I wanted to 307 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:19,760 address was that JCBNYC 2009 said, in most cases, how much 308 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,960 will the extra $500 affect the interest rates? 309 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,560 I don't think you're gonna see an effect on interest rates and 310 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,040 then you're gonna see an effect on pricing. 311 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,680 I don't think. Yeah, it's not gonna affect the 312 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,320 rates that you were borrowing at. 313 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,800 That's a completely different entity of the process. 314 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,200 This $500 is whether you're financing or not. 315 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,360 So we're going to see those those effects in the pricing, 316 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,880 not in the rates of borrowing money. 317 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,400 I've been pretty involved in the Diz Boards community over the 318 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,920 course of the past week, just following the conversation over 319 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,360 there. So shout out to the Diz Boards 320 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,120 community because I did plug this video a couple minutes 321 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:57,520 before we went live, but I think a lot of interesting 322 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,880 conversation over there regarding this new $500 fee. 323 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,440 One one of the most interesting I think recently that I read is 324 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,760 that when you ask that question of does this affect the value of 325 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,240 a small point contract? You know, at the end of the day, 326 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,000 a small point contract is still probably going to be 327 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,920 significantly more valuable than say if you bought a 405 hundred 328 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,400 600 point contract because we see the values of those slip so 329 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,280 much. I think if you, if you see 330 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,800 anything thing, you're going to see more contracts purchase 331 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,200 maybe in that reasonable range between, you know, 150 to 350 332 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,840 points. Does it change people's pattern 333 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,480 as to how they buy? This is the one that I come at 334 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,920 it with a different mindset on is because if you are someone 335 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,600 buying for the first time or if you're not ingrained in this DVC 336 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,480 fan community or don't really have that full education, you're 337 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,040 not thinking about these things when you're actually buying that 338 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,000 initial contract. So you're not thinking about 339 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,560 that long term resale value or potentially down the road. 340 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,200 You may not even if you've not really explored the resale 341 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,920 market, you're not thinking about that when you make a 25 or 342 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,120 50 point add on to your current ownership. 343 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:13,480 So we that this community is very educated, you know, sphere 344 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,920 of Disney Vacation Club, but I think when we look at the 345 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,840 broader Disney Vacation Club space. 346 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,560 There's not as many people like thinking about it in that 347 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,720 mindset, so it'll be curious to really see what this does to 348 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,400 prices like as we had to 26. Yeah. 349 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,080 And, and hopefully, because I know on our end for, you know, 350 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:36,040 like DVC resale market, which is the, the brokerage under our 351 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,600 umbrella with key holder vacations, that fee is going to 352 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,720 be shown, you know, on the website with every listing as 353 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,880 part of the closing cost that buyers need to expect to pay. 354 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:51,000 And so one thing I think that happens with new buyers, because 355 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,880 I see this a lot in the lending on the lending side of things is 356 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,640 they look at that price per point and they're like, OK, I'm 357 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,560 ready to buy. And they don't pay attention to 358 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,640 the additional cost, like the closing cost, because there are 359 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,000 closing costs. This is a real estate purchase, 360 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,480 so it's a deeded piece of property. 361 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,840 So you need to think of it like buying a home. 362 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Whereas you have title company cost and you have, you know, 363 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,120 government recording fees and taxes and title insurance and 364 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:21,520 things like that. And then again, some people also 365 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,280 completely ignore the annual dues. 366 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,680 So you want to just look at the whole cost upfront when you are 367 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,760 trying to decide if purchasing is a right move for you. 368 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,800 So make sure you're looking at all those costs. 369 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,880 They are, you know, I know our company gives you estimates of 370 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,200 those on on their website. If you are financing that adds 371 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,520 some additional cost. Monera has a quote tool that 372 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,040 shows you all of those. We are going to be adding this 373 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,520 fee to that quote tool. So you can have you know a more 374 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,480 accurate idea of the numbers to expect come January 1st. 375 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,880 But just use all the tools at your advantage to look at those 376 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,920 numbers to decide if it's the right decision for you. 377 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:05,240 And you know, sometimes, sometimes direct, you know, is 378 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,600 going to be the right decision. And when you, when you compare, 379 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,680 you know, cost per price, especially when you get into 380 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,680 like the more expensive price per point, sometimes it is like, 381 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,800 Hey, I might as well buy direct or you know what I mean. 382 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:20,120 Look, look at everything. Do do the math, do the research. 383 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,520 I think most of the time resale is still going to come out on 384 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 top as the better, you know, value. 385 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,800 But then again, it just depends, you know, So, so I'm not going 386 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,600 to say it's all the time. Couple other questions coming in 387 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,000 and I just want to say if you are just joining us, you know, 388 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,320 back up 10 minutes to where we kind of first brought this up. 389 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,120 But I just do want to clarify yet again because I have seen a 390 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,760 couple questions come in just clarifying the timing of this 391 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480 fee. Again, Disney Vacation Club did 392 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,880 overnight provide us with guidance saying that essentially 393 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:56,080 this fee will apply and I'm I'm quoting here, this fee will 394 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,800 apply to all contracts signed on or after January 1st, 2026 and 395 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,960 must be paid before the ownership transfer is completed. 396 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,280 So team Schoenhoven and Nathaniel, I think this both 397 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,400 answers your questions there. Again, signed contract closing 398 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,720 are two different things. You need a signed contract 399 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,640 before January 1st and that needs to be then submitted to 400 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,400 Disney before January 1st and then this $500 fee would not 401 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,720 apply to those sales even if they do close in the early part 402 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,960 of January, so. Yeah. 403 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,040 And then the question right underneath that you pretty much 404 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,600 said this already, but asked, you know, if it doesn't pass the 405 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,160 right first refusal by January 1st. 406 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,560 It is our understanding based on the guidance we received last 407 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,640 night, this morning that it's yeah, it just has to have been 408 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:53,440 submitted to Disney a signed contract by that day, even if it 409 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,400 hasn't passed reverse refusal yet that the fee would not apply 410 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,120 yet. Yeah. 411 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:02,760 So, so those are those are important things to keep in 412 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,560 mind. So even if you have a contract 413 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560 out there right now, we have, we have people that have contracts 414 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,120 that the closing date, you know the closing takes 10 months from 415 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,560 now because of delayed closing because of trips. 416 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,080 Since those are signed contracts, they've already been 417 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,080 sent out. Those should not have that fee 418 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,840 added. Yep. 419 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,000 Well, I think we've, I think we've killed this topic pretty 420 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,720 much. I know a lot of you guys still 421 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,320 have a lot of questions about this. 422 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,040 My best advice at this point is if you do have an agent over at 423 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,800 the DBC resale market, you know, reach out to them if you are 424 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,120 actively going through a contract purchase or if you're 425 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,760 thinking about buying. Again, my biggest emphasis right 426 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,680 now is if you have been thinking about buying you know you, you 427 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,200 want to try to avoid this $500 fee if possible. 428 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,440 And so you know finding that right contract now before the 429 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,160 first of the year just kind of avoids that $500 and kind of 430 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:05,440 puts you into that window. So and we will have more 431 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,360 information. And kind of more. 432 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,320 Formal. Yeah. 433 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,160 And one more thing, this is, is actually pretty standard in the 434 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,320 timeshare industry. And as far as the cost of the 435 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,160 fee goes, you know, $500 that is kind of a big hit, especially 436 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,520 for smaller contracts, not so much for larger ones, but there 437 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,960 are time shares out there that have a lot larger fee for this 438 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,680 like contract administration, you know, ownership transfer 439 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 thing. I saw some out there that were, 440 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:41,840 you know, 751 thousand 1500. So this isn't, you know, not 441 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,160 this does happen in the timeshare industry. 442 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,280 So that is something to keep in mind that unfortunately it does. 443 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,040 It was something to set Disney apart that we didn't have it. 444 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,800 But now that we're getting all these more extra resorts and all 445 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080 these owners and there's a lot more contracts out there being 446 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,920 bought and sold, you know, through resale market, we have a 447 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,040 lot more transfers that Disney has to do. 448 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,480 And this is part of why they originally were slowing down, 449 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,320 you know, and changing, you know, ownership and getting your 450 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,480 points might take, you know, another eight weeks after 451 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,080 closing. We are hoping that with the 452 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,560 addition of this fee that they that means they're hiring more 453 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,440 people that they're making this process a lot faster. 454 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,200 For sure Zeppelin rocks. This is dirty if they would do 455 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,640 this. But he said, would they roofer 456 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,360 more to drive contract signings until after January 1st? 457 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,640 I can tell you from our perspective right now, there's 458 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,280 no increase in roofer equity. It's about the same as what? 459 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,280 They're actually sending things through faster right now. 460 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,240 Things are being pushed through faster, but the the number of 461 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,480 roofers as a result of that are the same as they've they've been 462 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,160 throughout the course of 2025. So don't really expect any huge 463 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,120 change there. Hey, if you're watching right 464 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,840 now, if you are not subscribed to the DVC Fan YouTube channel, 465 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,560 please hit that subscribe button and if you are watching, hit 466 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,400 that thumbs up button. It does so much good for this 467 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,720 channel and for everything that we're trying to do because Amy 468 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040 and Amy and I are here on a Saturday morning during the 469 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,880 holiday season chatting it up with you guys because we want 470 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,240 you guys to be educated about this product that you've spent 471 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,240 so much money on. So it does the world for us and 472 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,240 we appreciate all of your support. 473 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,280 Also, before I forget, Derek sent along a message and wanted 474 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,200 to tell you all that if you're not already subscribed over at 475 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,720 patreon.com/DVC fan, you should definitely do so because we are 476 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,560 headed to Jeff and DVC Dan's house tonight for a holiday 477 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,200 soiree of sorts. And Derek is going to be there 478 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,640 and Amy and I are going at Beth and Amy. 479 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,560 Unfortunately, like I mentioned at the top of the show, they're 480 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,960 on a cruise ship right now, so they picked cruising and boozing 481 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,760 versus having fun with us. But. 482 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Anyway, Derek's going to end up on Patreon tonight. 483 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,720 I just know it. We're confident of that. 484 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,160 This lady controls what goes on Patreon. 485 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,040 So it it it's, it's bound to happen. 486 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,000 Moving on in the conversation, I think I want to go to point 487 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,520 charts next, which I want to, I want to fully just outline how 488 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,440 this went down this week because I, I absolutely love just when I 489 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,160 think that something is coming and then it just immediately 490 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,240 happened. So I was in a conversation for 491 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,000 those of you that don't know already, we've been working 492 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720 behind the scenes. I, I should say Ben, our 493 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,320 amazing, amazing new member of our team over at key holder 494 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,000 vacations. He is in our IT department and 495 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000 he is just a rock star. And where his head goes, he's a 496 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,160 he's a huge follower of this show. 497 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,440 He's probably watching right now. 498 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,600 So shout out to Ben. Everyone in the comments say hi, 499 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,560 Ben. Thanks for the awesome new tool. 500 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,840 So Ben came to us a couple weeks ago and we were talking about 501 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,160 like what, what kind of things could we do to better assist the 502 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Disney Vacation Club community? And one of the big things that I 503 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,640 said is I always felt that point charts when they came out was 504 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,080 very, very, very clunky. And there wasn't a great way to 505 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,400 view them nor compare them. And so we started going down 506 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,440 this mindset. He just kind of rock and rolled 507 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,440 with it, sent me over. The first version looked 508 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,320 awesome. We sent back and forth a couple 509 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,200 different pieces of feedback, but as part of as part of the 510 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,480 2027 point charts, we were getting ready to roll this tool 511 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,200 out to you, our amazing community. 512 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,280 So I was in conversations. I don't remember what day it was 513 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,360 this this week has been a bar. Was it Wednesday, the point 514 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,040 Trump? I don't even remember whatever 515 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,800 day point charts dropped. I was in a conversation with 516 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,040 Ben. We were kind of cleaning a 517 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,920 couple things up, talking about when it would go live just for 518 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,040 testing ahead of I thought point charts would not come out until 519 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,680 next week after the condo association meetings. 520 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,480 I then went to our chief technology officer, Matt and I, 521 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,760 I just typed the message and I had said, hey, Matt, I just 522 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,200 wanted to make sure we were all set up for point charts across 523 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,600 all of our brands. You know, DVC resale market they 524 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000 do things related to point sharks, point sharks. 525 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,840 I've not had enough coffee point charts DVC rental store 526 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,480 obviously that that is an important part of our business. 527 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,800 DVC fan all of us utilize the point charts in one way shape or 528 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,760 form or another. I did not have that message sent 529 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,280 and and I'd said, I think point charts for 2027 will drop next 530 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,640 week to when I refresh the screen that I've had a saved as 531 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,080 a tab on my computer for the past month, just refreshing 532 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,960 waiting for them. And there were the 27 charts. 533 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,400 But again, yeah, kudos to Ben and that whole amazing team, our 534 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,360 technical team, because they didn't waste a second and they 535 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,280 got the new tool up and running. So I do want to show you this 536 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,520 real quick. If you are looking for our new 537 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,840 point chart tool, you can head to the Disney Vacation Club 538 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,120 website. Head to DVC. 539 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,280 Yeah, I'm sorry. Jeez. 540 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,360 Dvcfan.com, not the Disney Vacation Club website. 541 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,920 Go to point charts at the top. If you hover over that you will 542 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,440 see the DVC points calculator. That's it. 543 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,800 Is that all you're gonna say? That's all I know. 544 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Yeah, I just stopped talking because I figured I was losing 545 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,320 track of our thoughts. So a couple of different things 546 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,840 here with the point chart calculator. 547 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,520 So there's a couple couple cool things that you can do. 548 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,440 First and foremost, if you're just looking for point charts, 549 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,640 you can go to the upper left hand corner, click on Viewpoint 550 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,760 charts, and then let's head to Boardwalk Villas. 551 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,240 For example, the point charts right now are defaulting to 552 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,440 2026. So if you are looking for the 553 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,920 2027 charts, you can click and choose what point chart you're 554 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,680 looking for. How? 555 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,680 Cute are those graphics are director of digital marketing 556 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,680 Mandy Gibson made those. They're so cute. 557 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,680 She was on the last two shows that we did. 558 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,200 Yeah, so you can click on to whatever year you want, you can 559 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,920 see. What I love also is you can hide 560 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,520 different things. So if you only care about deluxe 561 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,600 studios, you can hide the one bedroom villas for now and then 562 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,560 if you want to bring them back, you can obviously click them 563 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,000 back. So if you want to just look at a 564 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000 specific room type, you can do so. 565 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,360 What I love and what I think the community has loved so far in 566 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,680 testing this tool and playing with it is the compare feature. 567 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,480 So if I click compare to 2026, I can see any changes that have 568 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,000 happened on these charts. So right here you can see that 569 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,800 no changes really occurred to Boardwalk. 570 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,320 So let's go to one that was a little bit more controversial. 571 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,840 I'm actually going to go to Animal Kingdom Jambo House 1st 572 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,200 and go to the 2027 chart here and then compare to 2026. 573 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,640 Shout out to the Diz board community. 574 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,120 Again, I know what happened to our TV behind us. 575 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,320 I have no idea. Shout out to our Diz boards 576 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,320 community, though. I know that they, someone had 577 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,400 asked and thought that it might be kind of a, a hard thing to 578 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400 now it's completely turned off. Look at that just we're we're 579 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,000 rocking 1000 this morning. People just hit that thumbs up 580 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,840 button because you got to love how just random off the cuff we 581 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,440 are. Someone had asked if we could 582 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,440 highlight the changes when we do the compare feature and Ben 583 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,960 actually Ben actually worked overnight and got this up and 584 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,800 running. He he sent it to me this morning 585 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,200 and said I got this working before the live stream today. 586 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,320 My. Goodness. 587 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,000 Ben So you'll see in green any any increases that have happened 588 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,720 to the point charts and then you will see in red any decreases 589 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,200 that is so. I didn't even. 590 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,560 I haven't even seen that. Yeah. 591 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,120 And then in addition to this, someone also asked if we could 592 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,400 build in the weekly point charts and those are now on here also. 593 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,000 So when you are searching the charts, you will see that the 594 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,360 weekly is back on here because that is how typically Disney 595 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,520 Vacation Club, it shows these point charts. 596 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,160 So this is for comparison features. 597 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,640 One of the reasons we pulled up Animal Kingdom, Jambo House, 598 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,720 this is one of the ones that a lot of people are talking about 599 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,600 at the moment. So there was a little bit of a 600 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,280 rebalancing here between basically Savannah view and 601 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,080 value Studios and value accommodations at Jambo House 602 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,560 and the the main thing and Lauren did a great write up over 603 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,800 on DVC. Fan.com. 604 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,520 So head over there. I think I pulled it up here. 605 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,800 It's one of these tabs somewhere, point chart analysis 606 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,080 there it is Animal Kingdom Lodge. 607 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,600 So one of the main things here that I think a lot of people are 608 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,639 talking about is the fact that if you've ever tried to get that 609 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,280 club level accommodation, if you've ever tried to get a value 610 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,239 accommodation, it's basically impossible to do so at Jambo. 611 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,000 And a big reason for it is there is a large number of people that 612 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,080 are walking. That's the all we're going to 613 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,239 say. We're not going to answer what 614 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,639 walking is today, walking those reservations. 615 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,360 And there are a large amount of what I would call commercial 616 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,080 renters. So those people you see in 617 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,040 Facebook groups that post like the 35 different reservations 618 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,120 that they have for sale at once, There's a lot of people in that 619 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,920 camp that have kind of resorted to just booking up these value 620 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,840 studios. And so I think Disney Vacation 621 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,400 Club, this is another attempt at them just basically kind of it 622 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,520 is a reactionary thing to the feedback of members trying to 623 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,720 increase the point values on these value accommodations and 624 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:20,520 then in return decrease the value of the Savannah views. 625 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,280 Yeah, which I, I, I appreciate that because honestly, because 626 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,200 most of us, most of us aren't getting those value rooms and 627 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,280 there's still a deal like you're still saving on points if you 628 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,600 choose that over standard and Savannah view. 629 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,080 But now it's not, as you know, they made the deal a little less 630 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,760 sweet. So maybe less people will be 631 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,800 inclined to the kind of fight for that and that will leave it 632 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,480 available to those who really want it. 633 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,760 I don't know, we'll see. Or I'm just like, hey, I'll just 634 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,240 book a Savannah view for a few more points or, you know, a 635 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,800 standard view for a few more points and not worry about it. 636 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,880 So still working with that TV. It's OK, They can just look. 637 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,960 I think I got it. Look, I made it work. 638 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,040 Look at that. Technology at its finest. 639 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,800 So yeah, I think this is, this isn't a good move on on point 640 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,200 rebalancing that we've seen and it'll be interesting. 641 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,080 There's a lot of people out there though that are like, hey, 642 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,240 I'm happy about this because I've never been able to get into 643 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:21,880 those value rooms. Keep in mind how few value rooms 644 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,000 there are. I don't think we're going to see 645 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,320 a significant change in your ability to get into these value 646 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,240 accommodations as a result of this, even if it does cut down 647 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:32,960 on some of the things that I mentioned earlier. 648 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,800 This is not going to make these any easier and does not mean 649 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,160 that these aren't going to go at the 11 month window just as they 650 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,240 do currently. So you got to be ready. 651 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:46,000 You got to be waiting. I'll just add my own little 652 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,760 speculation out there. I've said for a long time that 653 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,440 I'm curious to see if Disney Vacation Club has the mindset of 654 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,800 adding to Jambo House more DVC accommodations. 655 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,800 And if they continue in this direction, it makes more sense 656 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,680 to do so because most of the Jambo House section are these 657 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,720 traditional hotel rooms. And so if you wanted to pull 658 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,200 those in and you wanted to boost up the point value of them to do 659 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,840 so and make maybe all of Jambo House DVC, or at least a larger 660 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,720 portion of it DVC, this could be the first move to do that. 661 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:26,240 I don't know, that's pure speculation on my behalf, but it 662 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,760 it would make sense. I think the other point chart 663 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,600 change, and we'll go back to Ben's handy dandy charts here to 664 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,480 view this one a little bit more closely. 665 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,200 And this is the more hotly contested change that we've seen 666 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,040 with the point charts in 2027 is Disney's Polynesian Villas and 667 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,960 Bungalows. So there's been a massive shift 668 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:51,920 here when it comes to the the point charts, specifically 669 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,000 related to the current accommodations over at the long 670 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,720 houses. So we've seen across the board 671 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,960 increases. And remember when Disney 672 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,880 Vacation Club rebalances points, the traditional thing that we 673 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,200 see is that if you add points to 1 area, you have to subtract 674 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,600 points from another area. And that is why everyone's head 675 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,320 is scratching a little bit at the Polynesian chart because you 676 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,520 can see I have no red on this chart whatsoever. 677 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,720 I just have green. Yeah, so, so basically our 678 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:25,320 speculation on this is that and we've been hearing some like 679 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,320 complaints about this. So we're hoping this is the case 680 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:34,560 that they went to the Island Tower and they declassified some 681 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,360 of the rooms that were listed as theme Parkview, maybe even some 682 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,880 of the preferred view ones that are like overlooking the roof. 683 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,680 But that they went and declassified some of those and 684 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,920 downgraded their basically their view status so that you're not 685 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,440 getting stuck in a room, you know, with the promise of paying 686 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,160 for a theme park view and points and then getting something where 687 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,400 it's like, oh, well, if I turn, you know, sideways and I 688 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,280 hangover the railing for a little bit, you know, I can kind 689 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,000 of see a part of the fireworks. I mean, we don't we don't want 690 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,120 you guys getting stuck with that. 691 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,160 And and they probably are tired of the complaints and having to 692 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:16,640 move people to different rooms. So our our speculation and again 693 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,760 this is a question that is going to hopefully be clarified at the 694 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,120 condo association meeting next week. 695 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,880 Paul is going to the Polynesian 1. 696 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,640 So if no one else asks it, it's it's all you buddy. 697 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,280 But. I'm I am a family on the wall of 698 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,840 those. Meetings. 699 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,800 I just sit there with my notebook. 700 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,160 And I know so somebody asked this question, but that because 701 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,680 we want to see where the math went. 702 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,640 So if they declassified, you know, a handful of rooms as not 703 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,760 theme park anymore and they moved them down a category, then 704 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,480 we've got all these points floating around that have to go 705 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,440 somewhere. So they had to go and 706 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,800 redistribute those points into other into other places. 707 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,560 That is our guess. We are not 100% sure because 708 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,800 there is no clarification on why this point chart looks like 709 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,640 this, but hopefully we will learn and find out. 710 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,400 If you go to the Poly Association meeting on 711 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,200 Wednesday, that one's on Wednesday. 712 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,600 Please ask that question. And at the end of the day, I 713 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,280 think that the biggest thing with these charts with, with all 714 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,640 of this stuff that we've talked about this morning so far is a 715 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,320 missed opportunity to properly communicate on Disney Vacation 716 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,680 Club's behalf. And that, that I see, I, I see 717 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,400 that as the frustration that most members are expressing both 718 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,000 with these point charts and with the $500 admin fee. 719 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,720 Now the, the betting, you know, the, the running bet is that the 720 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:51,760 admin fee actually got added to the website prematurely. 721 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,640 It sounds like that is the case because in early push to, you 722 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,000 know, get clarification from Disney Vacation Club, they were 723 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,520 kind of like, I don't know what you're talking about. 724 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,320 So it sounds like that was a little bit premature in going up 725 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,240 on the website versus their actual wanting to roll it out. 726 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,160 But with the point charts, there's really no excuse, you 727 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,800 know, when you're gonna put the point charts out. 728 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,080 And just providing the clarification reduces this 729 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,160 friction that there is and that there continues to build between 730 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,440 Disney Vacation Club and the member base. 731 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,800 And I think that there's just this huge missed opportunity 732 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,160 where if you properly communicate, I've invited, you 733 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,400 know, leadership to come on this show and I would continue to do 734 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,680 so. If anyone out there, you know, 735 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,040 within that space watches this and wants to provide clear 736 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,240 communication, I am always happy to do so because that's our end 737 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,800 goal is to educate and inform members. 738 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,680 And I think if you have a properly informed member base, 739 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,800 then they're going to be less angry. 740 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,920 Like you're going to not have pitchforks coming for you next 741 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,600 week at these at at these association meetings where a lot 742 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,400 of people are geared up and revved up to ask a lot of these 743 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,080 questions because they're angry about it. 744 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,520 So I properly communicate it. Very, very easy to do. 745 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,480 I think you know, so I, I just don't understand why time and 746 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,080 time again we're having these conversations, but less of that. 747 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000 I want to go back to Ben's tool real quick and then we'll get to 748 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,080 some of your questions. I just want to show you all the 749 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,760 bells and whistles that we kind of build in here. 750 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,480 So as we mentioned down the left hand side, we've got all of the 751 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,080 different resorts. So if you want to click on a 752 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,720 resort and see the point charts, you can do that Bay Lake Tower 753 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,360 just to show you. You can also download the 754 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,680 traditional point chart. If you like to just kind of have 755 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,880 that traditional point chart. Look, there's a little download 756 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,160 button here that'll allow you to download that. 757 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,280 Want to go over and just show you real quick the Villas at 758 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,840 Disneyland Hotel and Aulani charts because an awesome 759 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,640 feature that been built into these are the fact that you will 760 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,320 see the transient occupancy tax built right into the chart here. 761 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,040 So you will actually see those numbers for whatever date range 762 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,200 you are looking at, those are per night fees, whether it be 763 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,640 Aulani or the villas at Disneyland Hotel, you're going 764 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,640 to pay that at checkout above and beyond the point cost for 765 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,280 those. Rooms and he also has the Weekly 766 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,280 listed under the Weekly and Holy Cow Grand Villa. 767 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,800 Oh. My goodness, 2800, I go all the 768 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,000 way down. OK, that's 30 3200 / 3200 for. 769 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,280 3037. 3737 hundred for the Christmas week. 770 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,760 Wow. Yeah, it's in transient. 771 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,040 It's behind the photo of us right now, so you guys can't see 772 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,280 it on the screen. Oh my goodness. 773 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,720 I will say for transient tax, if you are looking for 2027 Aulani 774 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,520 numbers, those are not out yet. They typically drag their feet 775 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,200 and do not put those out. If anyone has them, please send 776 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,640 them to us.info@dvcfan.com so that we can get those up. 777 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,000 But Aulani is always like Disneyland Hotel was there boom 778 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,680 right when the 2027 charts dropped, But Elani has not yet 779 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,240 fully published that. And I think that has to do with 780 00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,000 like state and local things that go on over there. 781 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,160 So Elani's just in its own little world. 782 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:06,960 But once we have those, we will update those across the right 783 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,920 hand top section here before we go any further, obviously 784 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,640 showing your support for us. You know, you can head over to 785 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,840 DVC rental store. You can head over to unlock 786 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,000 magic for tickets. We've got all of our buttons if 787 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,000 you just want to head to the regular website and click on 788 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,760 news. The point calculator is the 789 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,920 other aspect of this that is pretty cool. 790 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,880 So if you're looking to plan a trip, you can actually use this 791 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,480 as a comparison feature to kind of see how many points that 792 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,880 specific trip is going to cost. So where do you want to go? 793 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,720 Amy, I want to go to Grand Californian. 794 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,720 Grand Californian What? What kind of room do you want 795 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,840 to? Stay in a grand villa. 796 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,360 Of course, Grand. Villa why not? 797 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,240 Standard view what dates you. All they have is standard view, 798 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,680 but next Christmas, next. Christmas. 799 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,520 I'm too early, aren't I? December. 20 well, I'm just 800 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,200 looking at that point you're. Just looking at points, that's 801 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,800 cool. So we're going to look over 802 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,240 Christmas. We'll say we'll check in on the 803 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,560 23rd and we're going to check. Out. 804 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,160 On the 30th and that is 1358 points. 805 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,120 Yeah, I'm going to have to back that, but I don't have that. 806 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,240 Many you can see we've highlighted, you've highlighted 807 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,240 the selection right here and we can also click on save for 808 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,240 comparison. So we can actually save that 809 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,080 search result that we have and just kind of put it into our 810 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,640 little comparison area, right? Here, Yeah. 811 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,280 And next to it, can we compare how much Disneyland? 812 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,080 Yeah. And the same range. 813 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,880 And I want to do that for a couple of different reasons. 814 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,640 So if we go here and we go to the villas at Disneyland Hotel, 815 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,240 we're going to select the three bedroom grand villa prefer, 816 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:40,720 Yeah. That's. 817 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,880 All they view 1000 278 but look what it also does for there so 818 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,520 it actually so actually. I think I'd rather spend the 819 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,440 extra points at. Correct. 820 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,760 So this comparison tool is also going to add up that transient 821 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,440 tax for you. So however many nights you're 822 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,480 staying, it's going to automatically add that up. 823 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,080 So for Disneyland Hotel during that same date range and we'll 824 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,360 save this for comparison, that is going to be 1278 points plus 825 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,680 $3783. And we have a little disclaimer 826 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,640 of what that transient tax is here. 827 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,720 Last but not least that I want to show off here before we head 828 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,960 into some of your questions is that if you do want to maybe 829 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,240 look into booking one of these or if you don't have enough 830 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:24,920 points and you need to search for some points, the little 831 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,800 three dots next to each selection here gives you 4 832 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,360 different options to choose from. 833 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,320 You can check DVC availability. So this will take you to Disney 834 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,840 Vacation Club's website for you to log in and check availability 835 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,040 for that specific date range that you're looking for. 836 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,320 You can view resale listings for that specific resort that you're 837 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,160 looking for points for. You can look at renting DVC 838 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,000 points for that stay. So again, it's going to pre 839 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,800 populate that information that you've already put in there and 840 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,240 take you over to the DVC rental store site and show you what 841 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:55,240 that stay would cost. And then if you are looking to 842 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:58,280 rent out your points, so this is a stay that you already have and 843 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,920 you're looking to rent out your points and get some cash, it can 844 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,360 take you there. So built those functionalities 845 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,120 into this tool. I would still kind of preface 846 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,160 and say that this is in what we would say a beta phase at the 847 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,800 moment. So we're still kind of working 848 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,600 on it and getting it up to speed and everything. 849 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,040 But if you see anything or if you see any optimizations or 850 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,760 anything like that, that you'd like to add to it, then you can 851 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,680 head, head and e-mail us at info@dvcfan.com or just ping us 852 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,160 in one of our communities and we'll get that feedback. 853 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,240 But again, if you're looking for that tool, head to DVC fan.com, 854 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,560 go to the point Charts section and you'll see DVC Points 855 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,840 calculator. It's also in the 2027 point 856 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,800 charts article that we we did. So I'm going to scroll up here. 857 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,800 It sounds like Amy's got a couple questions she's 858 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,280 pinpointed that you guys have asked while we've been looking 859 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,040 through here. I've been looking. 860 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,560 I just, there's one I'm trying to find that I had and now I 861 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,520 can't find it anywhere. OK, I just remember what it 862 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,440 said. It asked about the cruise and 863 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,960 said can we start making payments? 864 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,840 So I just wanted you to address that really quickly because I 865 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,440 know that you knew the information. 866 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,200 Isn't it the payment link, the same one that they used to make 867 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,080 their deposit? They can go back to that link, 868 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,720 submit another payment. Yeah. 869 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,480 So you've got two different options if you are booked on our 870 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,880 key holder group cruise. So everyone that was booked on 871 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,440 the group cruise was signed up for what we call Flex pay. 872 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,280 So any remaining balance as of the final payment date will auto 873 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,000 pay to the credit card that you used when you signed up for that 874 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,920 initial, when you basically they paid your deposit and signed up 875 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,520 for the cruise. If you want to make advance 876 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,240 payments above and beyond that right now, a lot of people like 877 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,680 to do so just to kind of pay that down over time. 878 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,160 You can go to that same payment link that was in that e-mail 879 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,160 that was sent to you. Or if you have questions at any 880 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,120 point and want us to resend that payment link to you, reach out 881 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,840 to us at events at keyholdervacations.com. 882 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,880 That e-mail goes directly to guess who these two people right 883 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,840 here. Yeah, so Paul is the one doing 884 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,360 all the quotes and and I am the one processing all the payments. 885 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,000 So we are, we wear many hats, but we're happy. 886 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,520 We're happy to help. OK, someone said that they were 887 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,960 waiting for an annual dues video. 888 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,680 Do you just want to quickly touch on? 889 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,920 So we are recording a new show with the rest of the crew. 890 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,880 Annual dues are going to be a heavy topic on that show. 891 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,680 But we do have, you know, all the analysis that we put out 892 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,720 already on DBCP i.com, So we didn't really want to steal too 893 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,520 much from that show. But is there anything just 894 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,480 really quickly you want to say about annual dues? 895 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,280 Obviously that came out like what, a few weeks ago we did 896 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,480 annual dues. Yeah, annual, annual dues were 897 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,760 about, I don't know, it feels longer than it actually has 898 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,800 been, two or three weeks maybe, I don't know. 899 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,720 It is the largest increase that we've seen, you know, 900 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,600 historically when we look at the average increases across all 901 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,280 properties. A lot of that I think has to do 902 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,640 with a lot of things that you hear about on a daily basis, 903 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,200 whether that be inflation, whether it be paying the amazing 904 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,040 cast members that work at these resorts a livable wage. 905 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,040 A lot of those things are the things that have changed. 906 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,640 Next week are the condo association meetings where these 907 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,720 dues budgets essentially get approved and that's when, you 908 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,040 know, they, they load everything in the system so that you can 909 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,920 pay them for 2027. So this is kind of I, I always 910 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,520 just equate it to unless you see a blatant, you know, reason or 911 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,920 reason to question these, these things are pretty highly 912 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,840 regulated. So there's typically no 913 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,160 surprises when it comes to dues. You know, transportation costs 914 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,680 are going to go up year over year. 915 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,640 You know, the, the typical things that you would expect to 916 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:50,080 go up are going to go up. And so, yeah, it's it's just 917 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,920 kind of that that part of ownership that you got a kind of 918 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,680 factor in. I think what most people are 919 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,720 questioning right now is whether or not we continue to see as 920 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:02,760 aggressive of these increases because it kind of throws that 921 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,920 math out the door that maybe you you punched into a spreadsheet 922 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,320 when you bought two or three years ago or whenever you bought 923 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,400 your original contract. So, yeah, I don't have a whole 924 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,400 lot more information other than that to really report on dues. 925 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,360 You know, there there wasn't anything I think that was overly 926 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:24,240 surprising that came out of the dues or any line items that you 927 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,840 know, were big head scratchers, but. 928 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,920 Yeah, we'll talk more about those though, when we record on 929 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,200 Monday. Team I'm so bad at reading 930 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,640 handles like YouTube handles because they're. 931 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,520 Open 2020. Yeah, that's it. 932 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,760 Because they're all mixed together. 933 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,840 That's not the one I was going to highlight. 934 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,320 They asked the question, how hard is it to get the new cabins 935 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,520 at 7 month mark, the week of Halloween? 936 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,600 Impossible. Not impossible. 937 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,280 I would say fairly impossible. Difficult they're they're, 938 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,440 they're very popular. Halloween is a very, very 939 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,000 popular time at Fort Wilderness. They have the, the golf cart 940 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,920 parade. It's really cool. 941 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,320 They have all kinds of, you know, fun things going on. 942 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,920 They actually pretty much lock the resort down that if you're 943 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,880 not staying there or have a reservation like hoop they do, 944 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,560 you are not allowed on that property. 945 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,920 So Halloween is very popular, very busy. 946 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,280 So if you don't own there, you know you're going to want to try 947 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,120 it seven months, you're going to want to set a wait list, you're 948 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,080 going to want to stock the system just to see if something 949 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,000 comes up. But it is it is going to be 950 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,360 difficult just because how popular Christmas and Halloween 951 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,760 are very, very big at Fort Wilderness. 952 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,880 I also want to highlight this comment that he also asked or he 953 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,320 or she. I apologize. 954 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,960 Is there an app in the works too? 955 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,240 First I would say if you've not done so or if you used to have 956 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:48,040 it and got really frustrated at it re download the DVC resale 957 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,160 market app available on Google Play and the App Store because 958 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,240 also the sorcerer, the sorcerer Ben completely revamped that and 959 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,000 it's got some cool things going for it. 960 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,800 I actually met with Ben this week because we're talking about 961 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,920 adding some things related to DVC rental store in that app. 962 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,840 But I will just say that there was also a conversation of do we 963 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,360 create a DVC fan app that has a lot of tools that members need 964 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,920 and want. And that's where we're going to 965 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,360 leave it for right now because this this cool little tool that 966 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,080 he built for the point charts. That would be a cool thing to 967 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,440 live in an app along with a lot of other things. 968 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,160 Yep. You're tired of me already, I 969 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:36,680 can tell. Buff Rob said their new buyers 970 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,520 going back and forth on resale and direct having trouble 971 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,000 deciding if the direct park perks are worth it. 972 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,000 They live in New Hampshire, not Florida. 973 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,160 That's a tough one. It's just comes down to looking 974 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,400 at the perks and if there are things that you know you're 975 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,600 going to use. But at the end of the day, it's 976 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,760 almost always we say FOMO, fear of missing out. 977 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,120 That's what makes most people buy those perks. 978 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,720 The fear of missing out on going to a Moonlight Magic. 979 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:03,880 Any of the dates almost never match up for you. 980 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,920 Or, you know, the fear of missing out on the little events 981 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,680 or the preview events. I will say that for a lot of the 982 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,080 perks, some of them, if you don't live in Florida, are 983 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,120 actually very hard, you know, for them to fall directly on 984 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,600 during a trip. When they do, it's amazing. 985 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,760 But if they don't, you may go a whole year without really taking 986 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,800 advantage of many of them. So you kind of have to decide 987 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,040 that. That's kind of a personal 988 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,160 decision. We enjoy some of the perks, but 989 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,840 can we live without them? Probably, But yeah. 990 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:41,400 OK, let's see. I'm looking for some more 991 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,320 questions instead of comments. Well Amy's looking for 992 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,800 questions. I'll fill you all in on our 993 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,240 foster dog Lolo. If for those of you that don't 994 00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,320 follow us on social as we recently had brought a fourth 995 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,760 dog into our house which I believe you our entire community 996 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,800 is convinced is going to become a permanent resident of our 997 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,160 house. But we are looking for an 998 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,440 amazing family that wants to adopt Lolo. 999 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:08,120 Lolo has been probably the most scared Galgo that we've brought 1000 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,640 into our home. You know, there's a lot of 1001 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,920 trauma. Who knows how he was treated, 1002 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,240 you know, before he made it into the rescue system and was 1003 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,680 rescued by SOS Galgos and then Greyhounds in Motion, who is our 1004 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,280 local rescue group. But he's, he's coming into his 1005 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,480 own. We see little things every 1006 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,920 single day, Amy. Amy swears she saw his tail wag 1007 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,800 this morning for the first time. I don't know if I'm crazy, I 1008 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,920 feel like I've seen like little hints of his tail wagging just a 1009 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,400 couple times. But he's also just getting a 1010 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,120 little bit more curious around the house. 1011 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,840 We don't necessarily have to fully guide him somewhere. 1012 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,640 We can kind of if we, if we talk nice enough, He he, he, he's 1013 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,880 convinced to come downstairs for dinner or to go outside. 1014 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:53,320 So yeah, he's, he's he's been an amazing boy to kind of do that. 1015 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,680 We do have another question from Jeff Haslam. 1016 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,040 Jeff Haslam said, does DVC plan to build a resort in Saint 1017 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,800 Thomas? Asking for a friend. 1018 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:11,600 No, that looks like a spam bot. I can ban them from the 1019 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,280 broadcast. I think they must be in Saint 1020 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,920 Thomas today, right? Probably. 1021 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,960 Yeah. Jeff, we're jealous. 1022 00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,360 What's the you? Want to be in the Caribbean? 1023 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,840 Jeff, how many Bushwhackers have you had already this morning? 1024 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,280 Right. Yeah, if you're ever Saint 1025 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,360 Thomas, get a bushwhacker, which is basically like chocolate 1026 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,040 milkshake meats, pina colada. I like the ones that have the 1027 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,920 strawberry syrup in them. And then get a side of French 1028 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,800 fries and dip your French fries in it like it's a boozy Wendy's 1029 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,400 Frosty. If you don't, If you don't 1030 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,040 realize. Amy. 1031 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,840 'S in life, Amy's alcohol choices in life all revolve 1032 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,720 around sweet things. I don't milkshake. 1033 00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:51,840 I don't drink very often, but when I do, it's. 1034 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,400 Last night Last night Amy and I went to dinner after going to 1035 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,320 Universal Studios for their holiday stuff. 1036 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,040 We went to a place called The Whiskey, which is in the Doctor 1037 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,200 Phillips area, and Amy ordered this drink. 1038 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,800 And I said when she was before she was going to order it, I was 1039 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,800 like, that sounds like a, a, a boozy smoothie. 1040 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:15,440 And the bartender that was actually helping us was not who 1041 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,360 made that drink. There was another gentleman that 1042 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,160 made that drink. And then our bartender came over 1043 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,880 and he was like, oh, I see you ordered the boozy smoothie. 1044 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,960 Yeah. It was good. 1045 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,800 OK, I just want to highlight this one, Sirius MH said. 1046 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,400 Looking good with that goatee like Steven Seagal. 1047 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,280 Steven Seagal, I was going more for Robert Downey Junior. 1048 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,280 Well that's just cuz I told you that on this. 1049 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,640 Especially with the glasses too. So let's see, I, I know Buff 1050 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,520 Rob, you asked this question a little bit ago. 1051 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,360 You ever have any issues with renting out DVC points for 1052 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,520 Saratoga Springs? Looking at buying into that 1053 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,120 resort as their resale prices are reasonable. 1054 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,760 Thank you. I will take that because I 1055 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,720 actually work with DVC rental store and I guess I can can I 1056 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,400 say this officially. I was going to ask you if I 1057 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,880 didn't want to if I wasn't. Why not? 1058 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:08,560 So? Yeah. 1059 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,600 So yeah, I work for DVC rental store for any of you that don't 1060 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:15,760 know that. That is not news. 1061 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,280 That is not news. Please don't make that news. 1062 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,480 Yeah, I've worked for DVC Rental Store for going on five years 1063 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,400 now. I've been the member relations 1064 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,960 manager. So assisting members like 1065 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,120 yourself, Buff Rob in renting out your your points. 1066 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:36,960 But happy to report here first that come January 1st, 2026, I 1067 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,920 will actually be the president of DVC Rental Store. 1068 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,120 So really excited about this opportunity, really excited 1069 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,560 about the future that we have at rental store. 1070 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,920 You know, all of our amazing brands at Key Holder are what 1071 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,280 allow us to do this. We're not going anywhere. 1072 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,240 We're still doing DVC fan. You may see some new faces from 1073 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,160 time to time. But yeah, because we do want to 1074 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,600 grow this brand also. But yeah, really excited by that 1075 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,040 opportunity. So yeah, that's exciting. 1076 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,000 To answer your question for Saratoga Springs, what we see 1077 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,240 more than anything, Rob, is that Saratoga from a guest 1078 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,880 perspective is not like that first choice that people go 1079 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,240 after. So like for guests, they're 1080 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,000 mainly always going and looking for something that's in the 1081 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000 center of the action. So we get the highest number of 1082 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,680 requests for like Polynesian. We get a crazy amount of 1083 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,040 requests for Beach Club, but you can see the problem there, like 1084 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,080 there's not enough points or owners at Beach Club to fulfill 1085 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,040 all of those requests. So a lot of these people do come 1086 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,680 back around and we try to then push them to resorts like 1087 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,120 Saratoga. Really just explaining how it's 1088 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,280 amazing. It's almost an escape from the 1089 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,560 parks. But for that reason, since the 1090 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,320 demand is not as high, we don't see as many requests within that 1091 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,520 7 to 11 month window in which you would get a little bit more 1092 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,080 of a premium payout for those points. 1093 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,080 So I always say Saratoga points. I view both ways. 1094 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,200 You can either rent them in that 7 to 11 month window if the 1095 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,920 opportunity comes up at Saratoga, but more likely you're 1096 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,880 going to be renting. Those points within that zero to 1097 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,160 seven month window when you can use them at those other legacy 1098 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,560 properties that if you're buying resale that you can use. 1099 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,440 The points at people who rent points are typically your, you 1100 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,040 know, like once in a lifetime trip or maybe once every few 1101 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,840 years trip. So they want to be closer to the 1102 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,960 parks. You know, they don't. 1103 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,960 They don't see the value in those quiet resorts as we do as 1104 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,320 DVC members. But yeah, that's something to 1105 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,440 keep in mind. I do want to highlight because 1106 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,480 I'm hoping you knew the answer to this, Mary Chin 5516 said. 1107 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,920 I can't find any information on the condo association meeting 1108 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,720 for Disneyland Villas. Did I miss it? 1109 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,360 Do you know when the Disneyland Villas condo meeting is? 1110 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,720 Sue, if you are an owner, you can head to the Disney Vacation 1111 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,560 Club website and under condo notices there should be a list 1112 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,880 of when all of those meetings were. 1113 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,200 I don't know that it's still on there only because I know 1114 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:07,760 registration for meetings closed last Thursday, I believe it was. 1115 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,720 So registration for the meetings is now closed, but I assume that 1116 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,160 that meeting is probably Tuesday because they're doing a Grand 1117 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,720 Cal meeting on Tuesday. So I would imagine and, and for 1118 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,680 Grand Cal and for Disneyland hotel, they do meetings on both 1119 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,720 coasts. So, so they, there is a meeting 1120 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,920 that occurs in California and there's a meeting that occurs 1121 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,720 here at the Contemporary with all of the other condo 1122 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,200 association meetings, so. Mason. 1123 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,080 Keel asked. You guys hold any events at 1124 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,800 Disney the weekend before the cruise? 1125 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,880 Yes, that is in the works, yeah. Actually, it reminds me I need 1126 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,560 to reach back out to our contact at Disney events because they 1127 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,680 told me they were gonna get me some numbers and they haven't 1128 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,880 done so. Surprise. 1129 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,040 Anyhow, what's up with Disney now charging $500.00 for resale? 1130 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,280 Back up about 1/2 hour I'd say and you'll get our entire thing. 1131 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,360 I would also say you said you just put in an offer and was 1132 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,320 told you have to pay that fee if you don't close before the end 1133 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,800 of the year. Ask for clarification on that 1134 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,360 because what we have heard is not that it's closing before the 1135 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,120 end of the year, it's that as long as a contract is signed 1136 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,840 before January 1st. So not the same guidance that we 1137 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:22,320 have received at this point. So yeah, just ask for 1138 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,840 clarification on that. But our understanding is that as 1139 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,040 long as you have a signed contract before the end of the 1140 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,400 year that has been submitted to Disney, then you should be good 1141 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:31,440 to go. Thank, thank you all for the 1142 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,080 congratulations. You know, it's, it's, it's 1143 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,640 really exciting for for us, for our family and and you know, for 1144 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,040 the company as a whole. So. 1145 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,400 Rebecca, the last name I can't pronounce. 1146 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,840 Looking to be a hybrid owner. Does Disney give more or better 1147 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,240 discounts on direct if you are already a current member? 1148 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,360 Basically questioning what to do first, Buy resale or buy direct? 1149 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,840 Typically they do, especially with new resorts if you're 1150 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,480 already an owner regardless of if it's resale or not. 1151 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,560 So if you're looking like I'm gonna buy Lakeshore Lodge, then 1152 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:10,600 definitely if you already own, there's a window where first 1153 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,600 current owners can buy. Those are usually the best 1154 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,800 discounts and then they open it up to the general public. 1155 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:22,920 But depending on your window, you know, might decipher what 1156 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,680 you buy first. It might not always be the case, 1157 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,560 but it's it's definitely almost always the case with new 1158 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,720 resorts. I don't really want to answer 1159 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,960 this question for multiple reasons, but it starts with Mr. 1160 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,400 President and I'll just, I'll just embarrass myself in public. 1161 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,080 Why not? Amy's resorted to calling me Pee 1162 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,320 pee around the House President. Paul. 1163 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,480 Stands for President Paul, so yeah it. 1164 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,240 Just, you know, that's in so many ways, I'm just kidding. 1165 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,000 Right. Plans to expand the swap program 1166 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,400 there's yeah, I mean, this is this is beyond just what you 1167 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,640 know, me as, as, as the new president of of rental store, 1168 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,840 but I've already had multiple conversations about this. 1169 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,920 We really want to bring in some other cruise lines. 1170 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,920 Amy and I are going on our first Virgin Voyages cruise next year. 1171 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,240 We're excited about that, but yeah, I, I, you know, there's 1172 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,840 definite interest and really just kind of blowing up the swap 1173 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,760 program as much as we can. Obviously we want to do it 1174 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,800 strategically so that we, you know, provide the greatest level 1175 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,600 of service to you, all our members that are looking to 1176 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,000 utilize it. But definite plans in the works 1177 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,760 to kind of add more vacation destinations and everything like 1178 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,840 that. Cynthia, when we'll be finding 1179 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,680 out tentative list of events on the group cruise. 1180 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,920 It's probably going to be a while still again, we're we're, 1181 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,120 you know, seven months away from that actual plan. 1182 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,400 And so just kind of trying to nail down everything. 1183 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,000 We want to plan a lot earlier than the companies that we're 1184 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,920 working with want to plan. You know, I, I use the example 1185 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,240 of, you know, our Oktoberfest dessert party, you know, for, 1186 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,960 for Disney or for real Caribbean. 1187 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,600 For those people, they care about what's happening tomorrow 1188 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,120 or later this week because this is a daily occurrence for them. 1189 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,360 Whereas for us, we're, we're, we're just like we want, we want 1190 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,480 the details, we want to plan. And so they do not move 1191 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,320 necessarily as fast as we want to. 1192 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,160 Yeah, as quickly as. Even when we booked our block 1193 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:27,080 for Hoop Dee Doo, you know, we were ready to to hand over a 1194 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,320 check and and get that book for our community as soon as 1195 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,960 possible. You know, we were asking 1196 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,480 several, several, several months in advance and they weren't 1197 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,800 willing to even begin to secure that block until they said a 1198 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,760 little bit before the 60 day window. 1199 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,120 And honestly, like they even didn't even get it to us until I 1200 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,280 feel like the 60 day window for many people had already come and 1201 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,840 gone. So yeah, unfortunately you know, 1202 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,840 when you work with some of these larger corporations, whether it 1203 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,440 be Disney events or even Royal Caribbean or whoever, you know, 1204 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,480 you kind of have to operate on their timeline. 1205 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:05,920 And so as soon as we have everything completely you know 1206 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,320 locked in, but we are getting a lot accomplished especially with 1207 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,080 the with the group cruise. So Rob, you has to follow up 1208 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,080 here just related to do you receive a less dollar amount in 1209 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,880 that zero to seven month window? So again I go back to kind of 1210 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,680 the the mindset of supply and demand. 1211 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:25,520 So Saratoga Springs for example, usually even within that 7 to 11 1212 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,240 month window, we're only talking about maybe one or $2.00 per 1213 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,120 point difference. So it's not a huge difference as 1214 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,840 compared to some of the other more in demand resorts, which is 1215 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,080 why I normally say if you find a rental opportunity in that zero 1216 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,360 to seven month window, take it rather than kind of waiting and 1217 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,200 waiting for maybe that that Saratoga Springs opportunity to 1218 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,920 come up. Obviously we want you to get the 1219 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,920 most value for your points as possible, but I just don't want 1220 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,280 you waiting for a Saratoga guest request that may never 1221 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,840 materialize for those points. So I that's why I say in the 1222 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,840 zero to seven month window. And yes, there is, it is a 1223 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,080 little bit of a lower payout within that that time frame just 1224 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,680 because of the lack of availability. 1225 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,280 But the on the flip side, you know, you're getting points for 1226 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,720 less because Saratoga is one of the yeah, one of the ones we 1227 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,320 usually call Saratoga sleep around points, which means, you 1228 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:19,920 know, you buy them to use them mostly at the 711 or the seven, 1229 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,880 the zero month window. But you know, unless you really, 1230 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,760 really love Saratoga, if you really, really care about where 1231 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:32,400 you stay, it might be worth, you know, buying a property that you 1232 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,440 want to stay at. And I think is, you know, since 1233 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,560 the new island tower is Polynesian still the most 1234 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:42,480 popular rental out there. If you're looking like oh I want 1235 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,880 a good resort, but I want if I can't use them, I want to be 1236 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,480 able to rent them easily. Yeah, Polynesian is definitely 1237 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,120 one of the most popular for multiple reasons. 1238 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,480 The point charts are accessible. The the studios are incredible, 1239 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,880 like the the Longhouse studios. The fact that you basically have 1240 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,920 two bathrooms in there are absolutely awesome. 1241 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,400 You know, so there's just a large demand for that and 1242 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,120 there's a large number of studios there, which is why we 1243 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,080 see I think a higher. Yeah. 1244 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,960 And then the other thing you want to consider when you're 1245 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,480 looking at which resort to buy, you know, it's easy to look at 1246 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:19,000 the immediate change, you know, the immediate cost, but looking 1247 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,240 at those long term costs. So also incorporating the annual 1248 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,040 dues into your research, you know what I mean? 1249 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,840 Because even if you're paying a little more for a different 1250 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,640 resort, but if the annual dues are, you know, a good bit less 1251 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,720 than over time, that resort is going to have a better value. 1252 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,600 DVC resale market puts out it's, I don't know if it's quarterly 1253 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:43,080 or, you know, seasonally or when, but they put out in their 1254 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:43,840 blogs. If you go to 1255 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,920 dvcresalemarket.com, you click on blogs in the corner and you 1256 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,640 search for, it's usually called like most economic resort. 1257 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,319 And so they basically rate the resorts at that time by 1258 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,840 economics. So they take into effect, you 1259 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,160 know, cost per average, cost per point, the annual dues cost, and 1260 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,040 then the length of contract because that's also a factor in 1261 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,200 the value. You know what I mean? 1262 01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:11,200 How long is this contract going to last? 1263 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,279 And so they take those all into consideration and then they and 1264 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:17,439 then they rank them. The only thing you need to keep 1265 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,840 in mind when you look at those rankings is like Riviera has 1266 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,560 been coming out kind of on top, but then you do have those 1267 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,720 resale restrictions for Riviera. So that might change the value 1268 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,520 for you. Yeah, BBC resale market agent 1269 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,160 Scotty Kauffman writes those quarterly and a little Birdie 1270 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,680 told me last week that I think the the most recent version of 1271 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,680 that might be coming out here later in December. 1272 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,120 So stay on the lookout for that. We're going to be here for 1273 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,880 probably about 10 to 15 more minutes. 1274 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,479 So if you do have any questions, go ahead and put them in the 1275 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,640 chat, even if they're just kind of random questions like what's 1276 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:51,319 your favorite holiday cookie or what is the best, you know, side 1277 01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:54,720 dish to go with Christmas dinner or how do you cook a Turkey? 1278 01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:57,920 Any of those questions we will be happy to answer. 1279 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:03,120 Did get a let's see, a question from CJ H Thank you for 1280 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,640 answering my last question. Offer on Saratoga purchase 1281 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,480 $90.00 per point was accepted. Chances Disney will exercise 1282 01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:13,280 their roofer on it. Another shout out to the blog at 1283 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,440 the BBC Resale Market. This guy pee pee. 1284 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,840 Please no. He does a month, I'm going. 1285 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,800 To turn down the job now. He, he does a monthly blog, it's 1286 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,320 called the right of first refusal report. 1287 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,840 If you go to dbcresalemarket.com, click on 1288 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,680 blogs, it's probably one of the more recent ones because it 1289 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,600 comes out around the 1st of the month every month and it is a 1290 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,880 detailed analysis of Disney's right of first refusal activity 1291 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,600 as it relates to DBC resale market. 1292 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,320 Who is one of, you know, The Who is the largest, you know, in the 1293 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,520 market. So it is it does represent a 1294 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,000 majority of the market and it's going to show you each resort 1295 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,160 for and it goes back, you know, he says the whole year. 1296 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,360 So each resort, the highest price per point that Disney has 1297 01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:01,560 bought back the last month and every month before that, how 1298 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,920 many contracts Disney brought back and just just a really good 1299 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,240 analysis of all of that. So head to dvcresalemarket.com, 1300 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,520 click on blog, search for that Ready for Us refusal blog and 1301 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,160 you will have all that data at your fingertips there to help 1302 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,040 you make an informed decision on that serotypic contract. 1303 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,960 Direct answer to your question. You can also access it from DVC 1304 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,920 fans to dvcfan.com. You should see it there also and 1305 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,960 that will take you over to the resale market site. 1306 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,920 To answer your question, we didn't see last month did not 1307 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,760 see any Saratoga roofers, I believe and I don't believe I've 1308 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,880 seen any so far this month in December. 1309 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,000 The the ultimate answer has to be you just don't know. 1310 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,840 At the end of the day, you don't know what they're looking for. 1311 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,240 You don't know what they're looking to bundle with points 1312 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,840 that they currently have because a lot of method methodology for 1313 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,640 them. There's, there's multiple 1314 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,120 different reasons that they row for. 1315 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,800 One is the value, the price per point, but there's also a part 1316 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,040 of that relates to the unit that the points are associated to 1317 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,720 because that is something that I do believe cannot be changed. 1318 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:11,160 So let's say that Disney is sitting on 75 points for Unit 5B 1319 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,920 at Saratoga and the contract that you're looking to purchase 1320 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,760 is 200 points and they have someone that's looking to buy 1321 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,560 250 points. They can bundle those two 1322 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,640 together once they actually row for that. 1323 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,880 So we see reasoning that they row for for that above and 1324 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,120 beyond the price. Price is the ultimate factor, 1325 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,800 but you know, ultimately we don't know. 1326 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,880 Can you? Scroll up above Lauren's to one 1327 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,200 more that one Lee Russo. I I want to address that. 1328 01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,760 I know that you would have something to say, but I think I 1329 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,440 think that my thinking might be correct, but you can correct me 1330 01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:47,720 if I'm wrong. He asked how does the $500 1331 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,440 affect rental prices? And my answer to that would be 1332 01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:56,160 that it likely will not. So from the standpoint of 1333 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,000 rentals, you have to look at pricing for rentals based on 1334 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,720 guests. And most guests are not DVC 1335 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,360 members. So you can't think about they're 1336 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,680 not going into this going, oh, I'm going to rent DVC points. 1337 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,920 I wonder what the annual dues are for this resort and this 1338 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,280 that. They don't know any of that and 1339 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:11,600 they don't care about any of that. 1340 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:17,840 What they care about is, is this is this rental for this DVC 1341 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:22,000 property at let's say Polynesian going to save me money versus 1342 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,480 going to Disney and purchasing that room directly through 1343 01:13:25,480 --> 01:13:30,200 Disney. So rental cost are a supply and 1344 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,560 demand based on the guests and a lot of what can dictate that is 1345 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,120 what Disney is charging, what kind of deals they have, what 1346 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,800 kind of offers they have and discounts they have on their 1347 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:47,720 direct pricing of deluxe resorts in general or even just resorts 1348 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,640 across the board. And that's what's going to 1349 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,760 affect rental prices. Anything related to the cost of 1350 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,360 ownership and annual dues and closing costs are not going to 1351 01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,120 have any kind of effect on the rental market, the ability to 1352 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,120 rent points because guests don't look at those things. 1353 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:05,200 They don't care about those things. 1354 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,560 That's First Lady Amy Krieger, ladies and gentlemen, which if 1355 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,280 she calls me Pee pee, I'm going to abbreviate as FAC. 1356 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,240 First Lady Amy Krieger. There you go. 1357 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:22,240 The FAC, the facts from FAC Wow. But yes, everything she said 1358 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,800 there was very true. I, I think we have to, we have 1359 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,520 to pay close attention to obviously the value for members. 1360 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,480 That's very important to be cognizant of and we always are 1361 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,440 striving to provide the highest value possible to members given 1362 01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:35,920 the market conditions. But those market conditions 1363 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,520 ultimately are driven by Disney. So you've seen Disney in the 1364 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,040 past year do things such as free dining because they're 1365 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,520 struggling to book rooms direct. You've seen them continue to 1366 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,400 offer a lot of offers even earlier than ever headed into 1367 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,480 2026. All of those things drive down 1368 01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:56,600 that direct room cost value. And to Amy's point, that is what 1369 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,480 those guests are coming to us for. 1370 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,360 So to bring the guests in the door, the pricing must be 1371 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,640 competitive with what Disney's offering or else those people 1372 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,400 are just going to look direct with Disney. 1373 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,200 So that is the ultimate thing that we look at. 1374 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,960 Yes, we look at all of these metrics when we make decisions. 1375 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:17,360 But you know, I don't believe that that that $500 fee is 1376 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,360 really gonna gonna kind of move, move the needle too much there. 1377 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:28,080 So let's see. Somebody asked and I like this 1378 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:33,680 one. All these these handles GOUSC 1379 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,560 OO7. What is your favorite place to 1380 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,280 have a nice steak dinner in the Epcot area? 1381 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,320 If we're oh, that's hard if we're sitting Epcot area. 1382 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,680 So to me, Epcot area encompasses the resort area. 1383 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,400 Yeah, that's, that's what I think. 1384 01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:54,200 And and obviously Epcot. Don't go to Epcot. 1385 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,320 My reasoning for that is if you're paying to go to a nice 1386 01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,360 steak dinner, you want to go somewhere that's a little bit 1387 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,240 nicer, that's out of a theme. Park. 1388 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,920 I like Lascellier, but it is like it is a theme park 1389 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,360 restaurant and at the end of the day, it's not going to be like a 1390 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,640 fancy, fancy date night, you know, and. 1391 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,880 It's cacophonous like a dungeon I feel like. 1392 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,200 That was a good word. There are windows. 1393 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,960 It is like a it's like a cellar, yeah. 1394 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:25,720 So my gut goes to two different places. 1395 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,480 I would say my my first option would be flying Fish on the 1396 01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:31,880 Boardwalk. They do have they have an 1397 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:37,440 amazing strip steak over there. And then the the steakhouse that 1398 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:39,240 can't be beat, I think is the Yachtsman. 1399 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,520 Yeah, we've and, and honestly, Otzman has some mixed reviews. 1400 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,960 We've had really good experiences there. 1401 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:49,800 There is a new steakhouse that took the place of no, I I'm not 1402 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:50,640 going to, I'm not going to do it. 1403 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,200 I'm not, no, but what is it? What what was the original 1 1404 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:55,240 called? I can't even remember it. 1405 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,200 Shoeless. Shoeless. 1406 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,320 We used to like shoeless. And then we had just a really 1407 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,840 crap experience at Sheila's where the bill was insanely high 1408 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,160 and so. Is your definition of high end 1409 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,360 steakhouse where it's like, we're not going to tell you how 1410 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,080 much this aged rib eye is? Tula's is gone and it's been 1411 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,800 replaced by bourbon. I'm guessing it's going to be a 1412 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,400 very similar, but if you've eaten a bourbon steak, let us 1413 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,160 know, but expect it to be expensive. 1414 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,360 I agree with Paul on Flying Fish. 1415 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:27,760 And what was the other one that you said? 1416 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,920 Oh, Yotsman. Yeah, we we've enjoyed Yotsman. 1417 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:35,200 So. Let's see here what else we have 1418 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,560 flying down next week for my daughter's 10th birth birthday. 1419 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,600 Can the new president please keep chilly weather away? 1420 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,640 Unfortunately, I'm not the president until January 1st, so 1421 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,080 would tell you that any, any weather before then is not my 1422 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,240 responsibility. But it's been it's been pretty 1423 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,400 reasonable down here right now. A. 1424 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,120 Little chill, so it feels a little Christmasy. 1425 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,320 Us Floridian. Not if you're coming from the. 1426 01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,040 Like a little. Any anywhere up north, right? 1427 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,040 Now OK, but it's not our. Family is freezing. 1428 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,640 It's gonna be that cold. It never gets that cold here. 1429 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,880 But still, you want you want nice weather if you're coming 1430 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,440 down here for a vacation. I get it, I hope. 1431 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,720 The weather is amazing. For you, Yeah, Yep. 1432 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,320 Let's see. Do we think Disney will tighten 1433 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,560 resale restrictions in 20/26/27? Initial concern with the wording 1434 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,720 regarding renting points, I don't think, yeah. 1435 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,040 I think you're asking two different things here. 1436 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,640 So I'm not quite sure if you're asking about resale or rental. 1437 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,120 I don't think any further tightening of resale 1438 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:31,320 restrictions are going to happen. 1439 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,760 I just think you're going to see them continue with this process. 1440 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,080 Everyone keeps saying, oh, they're going to get rid of them 1441 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,280 eventually. I'm here to tell you they're 1442 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,840 not. You know, at this point they've 1443 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,240 doubled down on them. Also the direction they're 1444 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,200 moving with the Palmetto Trust and moving Vacation Club 1445 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,240 interest into a trust formation just kind of furthers those 1446 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,360 efforts. So unfortunately resale 1447 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,400 restrictions are here to stay Regarding the rental rules that 1448 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,000 happened earlier this past year. You know, at this point in time, 1449 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,520 they, they, they remain what they are. 1450 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,080 And it remains to be seen kind of what kind of enforcement 1451 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,360 Disney Vacation Club plans to do with that. 1452 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,440 But I think that the intent that the, the, the new rules have 1453 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:13,200 come out with kind of you're, you're seeing small little 1454 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,280 motions of what they're trying to do. 1455 01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:18,920 I think the Animal Kingdom Jambo house point chart for 2027 is 1456 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,800 acknowledgement of the fact that there's been complaints 1457 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,040 regarding people walking or renting those value 1458 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,840 accommodation or those club level reservations. 1459 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,600 And so they're going to make them more expensive. 1460 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,920 So maybe if there's any long term plan or shift here, it's 1461 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,920 just rebalancing the charts where it's not as lucrative for 1462 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,840 certain rooms over others to for commercial renters to attack. 1463 01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,760 But you know, at the end of the day, renting is still allowable 1464 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,120 by all of the guidelines of Disney Vacation Club. 1465 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,800 You can rent your Disney Vacation Club points. 1466 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,760 So that remains to be on the Disney Vacation Club website. 1467 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,240 If you search renting points, it says it right there. 1468 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,760 So just keep that, keep that in mind. 1469 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,120 Let's see. I'm not sure I understand this 1470 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,760 question. YT dash VAIM Looking to buy my 1471 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,040 first DVC contract direct for the benefits as the current 1472 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,720 promo is ending and another is possibly around the corner. 1473 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,960 What's the best way around this without getting hit by FOMO? 1474 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,760 Yeah. So the current incentives I 1475 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,120 believe are set to expire next Wednesday. 1476 01:20:23,480 --> 01:20:28,880 So if you are looking at the current direct contract benefits 1477 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,400 and are interested in purchasing, the recommendation 1478 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,320 would be to buy early next week in that contract early next week 1479 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,280 because you do have a 10 day rescission period. 1480 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:44,040 So you have a 10 day window in which you can actually cancel 1481 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,840 that that purchase and then. Get other incentives are better. 1482 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,000 And get the new pricing that comes out. 1483 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,360 And I would also just say anyone that is looking to buy right 1484 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:58,120 now, this is going to be your best time to do so, whether it 1485 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,640 be this round of incentives or whatever comes out here next 1486 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,480 week. Because historically, Disney 1487 01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:08,160 Vacation Club in January has increased prices across the 1488 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,800 board for actively selling properties, even sold out 1489 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,440 properties that they continue to sell points for. 1490 01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,000 So those prices will go up come January. 1491 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,200 I would expect to see that come out yet again. 1492 01:21:19,480 --> 01:21:21,960 And I would almost imagine that that might be part of their 1493 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,080 marketing plan when they actually announce whatever the 1494 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,680 final incentives of the year are. 1495 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,800 So Andrew J Prescott actually mentioned Bull and Bear when we 1496 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,280 were talking about steak houses. We have, we have loved Bull and 1497 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,760 Bear. It is definitely a little like a 1498 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,920 little bit more of an expensive fine dining experience, but it 1499 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,200 is a good one. It's opened back since they did 1500 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,440 their kind of reef. You're right, it's been a while. 1501 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,440 So if you're curious about Bull and Bear, it is pretty much on 1502 01:21:48,440 --> 01:21:50,800 Disney property, but it's located over at the Waldorf 1503 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,320 Astoria. So is that that like Bonnet 1504 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:59,200 Creek area of hotels? And it is a really, really great 1505 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,440 restaurant. I would not go there for the 1506 01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:03,880 steak. I go there for the fried 1507 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,200 chicken, which sounds crazy, but they've got this really amazing 1508 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,760 kind of fancy fried chicken and mashed potatoes. 1509 01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,920 It is delicious. But yeah, we haven't been there 1510 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,560 for a while but Bowling Bear is is also a good choice. 1511 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,480 Someone else said Fogo to Chao. We have a gift card to Fogo to 1512 01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:22,960 Chao that we have had for like 4 years and we have not used it 1513 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,720 yet but someday we are going to use it and try that place out. 1514 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,360 We actually had a reservation for Valentine's Day and then we 1515 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,680 decided we were tired and we cancelled it and stayed home. 1516 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,800 Made a pizza? Yeah, I mean, probably made a 1517 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,880 frozen pizza, but yeah, someday we will try that. 1518 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,320 There's been a couple people about, you know, again about the 1519 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,040 $500 resale contract fee. Head back to the beginning of 1520 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,240 this video. It's first thing we actually 1521 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:53,640 talk about, but again, general understanding and based off of 1522 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,960 guidance that we received from Disney Vacation Club overnight, 1523 01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:01,000 any contract that is signed and submitted before January 1st to 1524 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,600 Disney will not have that $500 fee. 1525 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,320 So if you're in the process right now, if it's already been 1526 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,760 submitted, if you're already kind of started that process, 1527 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,680 you should not have to pay that that $500 fee. 1528 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:17,000 Yes I want to say hello to Vito dot Canada. 1529 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,640 I said hello guys. I just found your YouTube 1530 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,440 Channel 2 weeks ago and love everything I saw so far. 1531 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,840 I really marathon your videos, everything. 1532 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,240 I will buy one of your contracts. 1533 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,640 We are in Ottawa, Canada. Just want to say hello. 1534 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,640 Thank you for finding our channel and watching our shows. 1535 01:23:35,480 --> 01:23:38,240 If my voice gets annoying after watching it for so long, that's 1536 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:43,360 on you. Let's see what else before we 1537 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,120 head out. Talk to me about Aulani. 1538 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,680 What can't we miss? I did see in the conversation 1539 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,480 and I never put this together, but I will say so. 1540 01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:54,200 Michael Mina Restaurants. Mina's fish House. 1541 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,600 Someone mentioned Mina's fish House. 1542 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,080 That is probably our favorite in in Aulani. 1543 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,240 It is right next door in The Four Seasons. 1544 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,600 You can walk right over. The atmosphere is stunning. 1545 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,520 They've got these beautiful lights and fire pits and torches 1546 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,160 and it's right on the water and it's like, and I recommend going 1547 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:14,920 at sunset. That's like the best, that's 1548 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,880 perfect. But the food and the service is 1549 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,760 top. Notch and I'm already in Hawaii 1550 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,520 so I expect to be robbed in price at that point so it 1551 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,880 doesn't matter as much. Someone also in the comments 1552 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,440 just recently put, you know, it basically super expensive at at 1553 01:24:28,440 --> 01:24:31,080 the Bourbon Steakhouse. So yeah, it sounds like pricing 1554 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,520 has not really changed. I'm sure it is. 1555 01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,200 Which those those restaurants, that kind of restaurant is made 1556 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,400 for the convention crowd that comes to Swan and Dolphin. 1557 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,960 Also at Aulani, as you can tell, we mostly think about food. 1558 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:50,560 Also at Aulani the great across the street from Milani is a, is 1559 01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,400 a store, I think it's called ABC. 1560 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,760 And it's just like a little like convenient food gift shop. 1561 01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:00,920 They have some really amazing like build your own poke, very 1562 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,000 fresh fish and things like that in that store. 1563 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,200 So I definitely recommend walking over there. 1564 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,240 And then if you are someone that like us, that like we don't, 1565 01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:12,400 we're not really experienced snorkelers. 1566 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,120 And so, but we wanted to try it. They have the rainbow wreath at 1567 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,640 Aulani and you can buy a day, a single day pass, but we 1568 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,000 recommend buying like the, the length of stay pass, which isn't 1569 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,000 much more so that you can visit it, you know, kind of as many 1570 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,560 times as you want, but it's just like a little snorkeling little 1571 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,640 area. It's like a pool and it's just a 1572 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,880 really accessible way for you and your kids. 1573 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,120 It's a snorkel to see fish. It's very safe. 1574 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:47,120 It's right there on property. It's very cold in that pool, but 1575 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,240 it is so cool. It was, it was a lot of fun. 1576 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,080 So I definitely recommend saving some money so you can buy a pass 1577 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,520 to the Rainbow Reef at Aulani. We haven't been to Aulani since, 1578 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,280 gosh, 2021. And I unfortunately was ended up 1579 01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,280 at the in the hospital in Honolulu because I was ill. 1580 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:07,000 So that was our trip. We didn't get to do as much as 1581 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,240 as as we wanted to do when during that trip. 1582 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,800 So this this comment that just came in I'm I'm Googling it as 1583 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,520 I'm reading the comment, but Duke's is where we had a 1584 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,880 reservation. We had a reservation in Waikiki 1585 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,760 Waikiki and had to cancel it because I didn't. 1586 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,240 So they're putting in a new concept called the Cove opening 1587 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,720 in Koalina near Aulani. That's very cool. 1588 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,600 That will be very cool. Yeah. 1589 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,280 Thank you for sharing that with us. 1590 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,600 Person whose handle I can't pronounce. 1591 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,560 That's the story of every handle that you've read tonight, so. 1592 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,760 Far. I need names, people, yeah. 1593 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,200 So we're dying to go back to Aulani. 1594 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,240 We really, we really need to get back there. 1595 01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,240 I don't think 2026 is going to be the year as much as I'd like 1596 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,000 to kind of squeeze a trip on there. 1597 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,240 If there's any chance, I'm kind of looking at if we can somehow 1598 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,760 squeeze it into D 23 because I believe that Amy and I are 1599 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:02,080 headed out to Anaheim for D. 23. And if I could somehow even even 1600 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,760 two or three days just to just to. 1601 01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:06,160 Be on. Properties and we need content, 1602 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,160 right? We desperately need updated 1603 01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,200 content for. A long, so desperately. 1604 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,240 That is my that's on my wish list for for next year, but I 1605 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,360 know there's a lot of other things in the works, you know, 1606 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,600 also coming. Yeah, I think, I think we need 1607 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,560 to take our dogs for a walk. OK. 1608 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,680 Well, I just want to thank you all for spending part of your 1609 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,040 Saturday morning with us here to talk through some of the news. 1610 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,520 And if you've not done so, head back to the beginning of the 1611 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,080 video. 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Who knows what Derek will be 1623 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,000 getting into, but we'll make sure that we share it with you 1624 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,680 over there. Yeah, and I I'm seeing some more 1625 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,680 questions rolling in. I'm so sorry we didn't get to 1626 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:23,920 them after the video post which maybe might be Monday the. 1627 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,000 Video will go up immediately. OK, immediately on the channel, 1628 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,320 so the the live comments kind of go away into a different spot. 1629 01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:35,520 So if we missed your question, put it on the video after it 1630 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:39,400 officially posts on YouTube. And I will personally answer 1631 01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,360 your question sometime this week, I promise. 1632 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:47,040 So please put your question on there after the video posts. 1633 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,280 I'm sorry if we didn't get to it. 1634 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,640 Just give her all kinds of random questions. 1635 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,240 Just every single random. Question. 1636 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,400 Lay it on me. I'm ready. 1637 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,080 Lay it on. Me thanks for Thanks for doing a 1638 01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:58,000 live stream with. Me this morning. 1639 01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,120 It was fun. Yeah, it was. 1640 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,000 It was a good time. Thank you guys for joining us. 1641 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:05,480 All right, that's going to do it for this episode of the DVC 1642 01:29:05,480 --> 01:29:06,960 Show. Again, this takes place of our 1643 01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,040 Monday episode this week with the holidays. 1644 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,240 We got people all over the place, but we'll be back with 1645 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,360 you the following week with our regularly scheduled programming. 1646 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,160 But we hope you all are having a wonderful, wonderful holiday 1647 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,160 season and we will see you in the next one.