1
00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,960
In honor of our love it or leave
it show tonight, I thought I'd 

2
00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,120
ask a question just to make sure
all of our paddles still work 

3
00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,000
properly. 
Eric's got a piece of paper as a

4
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,880
paddle, but that'll that'll make
do he he even picked out the 

5
00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,640
same heart and the same, you 
know, not love sign, but in 

6
00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,280
honor just to get us started, 
test out the paddles, make sure 

7
00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,240
they're still working well. 
Ramen noodles. 

8
00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:25,200
Love it or leave it. 
Huge. 

9
00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,360
Come on. 
Wow, unanimous. 

10
00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,040
I did not expect that. 
'Cause we all have to pay for 

11
00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,800
our Disney addiction. 
That's how we save to be. 

12
00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,600
Able to go to Disney. 
So often, yeah. 

13
00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,880
For Fairpoint, yeah. 
Yeah, so this came from the fact

14
00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,280
that we swear that Eric posts. 
We don't swear. 

15
00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,520
He does post a picture of from 
the RAW. 

16
00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,680
Noodles like every day. 
But he's inspired me to eat more

17
00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,040
ramen noodles. 
That's the thing. 

18
00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,120
Like when we were at ALDI the 
other day and I picked up those 

19
00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,920
ramen noodle packets and then I.
Those were those were fire. 

20
00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,680
They were good. 
I might ate 1 yesterday. 

21
00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,480
Do you use them up at all 
though, Eric? 

22
00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,960
Like I, I like? 
No, you just go straight. 

23
00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,160
No, listen, we're saving, you 
know, we, we got a little packet

24
00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,240
and that's all we can go with. 
And I'm, I'm strictly chicken. 

25
00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,040
I don't even do beef or shrimp. 
And they have all types of fancy

26
00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,120
stuff. 
What was your favorite? 

27
00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,720
Back of the day picante. 
I love the chicken and the 

28
00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,080
beeficante, and so the one that 
you bought, I've put hot red 

29
00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,640
pepper flake. 
Yeah, we should jump up a little

30
00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,840
bit here at Story at the Krieger
House. 

31
00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:34,180
So 
hey everybody, and welcome to 

32
00:01:34,180 --> 00:01:36,540
this week's episode of the DVC 
Show. 

33
00:01:36,540 --> 00:01:39,140
I'm your host, Paul Krieger, 
joined as always by my lovely 

34
00:01:39,140 --> 00:01:42,420
wife, Amy Krieger, Sales 
Executive for the DVC Resale 

35
00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:46,280
Market, Derek de Boer. 
Hey now everybody, happy Ramen 

36
00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,160
Monday. 
The honorable and the Hostess 

37
00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,960
with the mostest tonight because
he's going to run this show, The

38
00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,480
Honorable Jeff Haslam. 
Hey, dudes. 

39
00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,600
And we're joined this week again
by the wonderful Eric Hersey. 

40
00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,920
Eric, thanks for joining us. 
Hey thanks for having me. 

41
00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,840
I'm excited about this. 
Hopefully there's more ramen 

42
00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,560
questions. 
You're gonna have to. 

43
00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,280
Yeah. 
Rewrite the questions real 

44
00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,160
quick, Jeff, because we need, we
need more ramen in our lives. 

45
00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,160
Yeah. 
I I, I think did I, I It was the

46
00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,160
same text thread in which I 
asked you to be on the shows, in

47
00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,320
which I think I said that I was 
eating ramen or something. 

48
00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:24,720
You sent me a picture of ramen 
and I immediately said that's a 

49
00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,920
beef flavored. 
I could tell. 

50
00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:29,760
And you were very impressed by 
that and therefore? 

51
00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,000
Is it the Marshawn brand? 
Is that what you buy? 

52
00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,080
If we're going for the brand 
deal guys, we're if I post 

53
00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,240
enough, they will pay me some 
type of sponsorship money. 

54
00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,560
I will be their first 
influencer. 

55
00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,080
What? 
What with selling ramen at what 

56
00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,080
is it these days, $0.50? 
Used to be $0.10, but it's a lot

57
00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,080
more now, right? 
It's like 1/4 apiece. 

58
00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,600
I buy them in the big packs, you
know, from like the local place,

59
00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,520
so. 
So I feel like they're 

60
00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,960
marketing, their marketing and 
sponsorship budgets got to be 

61
00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,680
like $5, I assume. 
I will take it and I will I will

62
00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,520
buy half of a Churro I. 
I lived on those in college so. 

63
00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,440
No, you're not going to get any 
help by being on this podcast, 

64
00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,400
Eric, because every attempt that
we get at a sponsorship deal 

65
00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,400
fails. 
We've tried Roosevelt's failed. 

66
00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,120
We've given up on Red Baron 
pizza, we're moving on to Costco

67
00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,080
cauliflower pizza. 
So, but I don't think Costco's 

68
00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,600
ever sponsored anyone in the 
history of their of their 

69
00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,360
business model, nor do they take
anything but Visa. 

70
00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,160
Yeah. 
What is up with that? 

71
00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,040
I've I, yeah, and I always 
forget. 

72
00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,960
I'm. 
Always the guy at the register 

73
00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040
that's trying to use a different
credit card and they always look

74
00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:39,840
at me. 
We only. 

75
00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,920
Definitely, yeah. 
No MasterCard? 

76
00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,760
No. 
Yep. 

77
00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,880
Well, welcome to this week's 
episode. 

78
00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,920
We are doing love it or leave 
it. 

79
00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,680
Jeff came up with a lovely list 
of questions for us in both, I 

80
00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,560
guess the DBC and Disney sphere.
You got a little bit of both for

81
00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:55,760
us. 
Yeah. 

82
00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:56,720
Yeah. 
Well. 

83
00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,200
That's a little bit of both. 
And then before. 

84
00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,120
We get into it. 
I just, I have this, I have this

85
00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,040
vision of Eric, like he told us 
in the last or in between the 

86
00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,480
last episode about his giant 
wrestling rink. 

87
00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480
Do you have a room like Scrooge 
Mcduck, but instead of like 

88
00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,040
swimming through coins, you're 
swimming through packs of ramen?

89
00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,760
Because I feel like that's 
something you need to add into 

90
00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,200
your home there That's. 
We do that on WrestleMania 

91
00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,760
weekend. 
That's when we fill the ring 

92
00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,560
with all the ramen. 
You know, you only can do that 

93
00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,040
once a year or the the fans just
don't want to see it anymore. 

94
00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,400
But it is a missed opportunity. 
You should. 

95
00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,160
You should. 
You should have been kept 

96
00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,720
keeping like the packages 
throughout the year and then 

97
00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,040
like your culmination post at 
the end of the year is just like

98
00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,600
you've rewallpapered your 
downstairs wall. 

99
00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,960
Listen, I can make a coat, a 
jacket, something like a giant 

100
00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,520
quilt with just a little packet.
There's so much you can do. 

101
00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,480
Santa's been generous this year,
kids. 

102
00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,920
Hearing hearing the word ramen 
87 times on a Monday is not what

103
00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,160
I had on my bingo card. 
Good thing it's a Wednesday when

104
00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,080
we're filming this. 
Happy. 

105
00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,480
Wednesday. 
As always folks, we're not 

106
00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,320
brought to you by a ramen 
sponsorship as much as we wish 

107
00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,280
we were, but we are brought to 
you by Key Holder vacations and 

108
00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:12,880
the world of DVCDVC resale 
market. 

109
00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,600
If you're looking to buy or sell
a DVC resale contract, Monera 

110
00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,520
Financial who will assist in 
financing that DVC resale 

111
00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,720
market, purchase the DVC rental 
store where you can try before 

112
00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,920
you buy, rent some points or 
rent out your own points for 

113
00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:32,080
cash to pay for ramen and unlock
magic Unlock magic.com/DVC fan 

114
00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,360
for discounted Walt Disney World
Disneyland Universal park 

115
00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,760
tickets. 
They're also doing specialty 

116
00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,240
park tickets and I think we've 
we're going to have some 

117
00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,280
Halloween party tickets probably
before too long coming, coming 

118
00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,880
soon halfway to Halloween get 
ready because half of Florida 

119
00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,560
already has their Halloween 
decorations up. 

120
00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:57,440
We're we're ready for it so but 
yeah and then we we did just 

121
00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,600
launch some forum. 
So if you've not already joined 

122
00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:05,760
us over in our forum, DVC fan 
forums, forums.dvcfan.com, join 

123
00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,640
in the conversation and we'll 
make sure that there's ramen sub

124
00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,280
thread and apparently a 
wrestling sub thread because we 

125
00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:13,640
need both of those after some of
the conversations that we've had

126
00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,880
with this crew tonight already. 
But Eric, thanks for having us 

127
00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,560
again. 
If you missed Eric's debut, it 

128
00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,200
was on our universal show last 
week. 

129
00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,320
Go back, watch that. 
If you want more Eric in your 

130
00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,840
life, the Jim Hill Media 
Network. 

131
00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:30,880
He's on a handful of podcasts. 
I I've named 2 but I feel like 

132
00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760
there's even more. 
We produce a lot of them, but 

133
00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,680
for the most part at the Epic 
Universal podcast DIS and hers 

134
00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,840
is the newest venture that my 
wife and I pretty much take 

135
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,200
things on things people are 
saying online and we just bring 

136
00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,200
it out there and we we debate. 
So it's really exciting to head 

137
00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,640
over the DVC forums because I 
have a feeling we're going to 

138
00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,080
find lots of good content that 
we're going to use for our show.

139
00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,440
So thanks to the community out 
there for doing that. 

140
00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,840
And I think an upcoming show 
we're going to be talking about 

141
00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,240
a lot of DVC stuff. 
So I think. 

142
00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,480
Come come in there have the 
conversations create polls. 

143
00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,320
I'm pretty sure we're going to 
have that functionality up and 

144
00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,440
running hopefully by the time 
you know, we, we, we raved about

145
00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,560
our our wonderful developer Ben,
who you all met on our live 

146
00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,040
stream when we launched the 
forums. 

147
00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,800
We're we're gonna get Ben back 
on this show very soon because 

148
00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,240
the audience is obsessed with 
him and his cats, but. 

149
00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,640
OK, I have to say one thing 
really quickly, not to, like 

150
00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,240
completely derail us. 
When are we on the rails? 

151
00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,600
So we had a, a technology issue 
today where our servicing 

152
00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,080
platform, which is Concord 
Concord does a lot of different 

153
00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,920
lending. 
You know, they, they work with a

154
00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,400
lot of different lenders and 
stuff like that and, and take 

155
00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,520
payments and stuff. 
And they had an issue and people

156
00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,920
couldn't log in for a little 
bit. 

157
00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,080
And so we had sent this e-mail 
just, you know, we're working 

158
00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,360
on, they're working on it. 
And someone wrote back to Monera

159
00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,680
and it's not our technology, 
it's Concord's. 

160
00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,920
And they said can Ben fix it? 
So that's what happened today. 

161
00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,320
Well. 
We are doing love it or leave it

162
00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,000
tonight and just for lack, just 
for full clarity, if I love it, 

163
00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,800
I'm going to put my little heart
up and if I'm going to leave it,

164
00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,520
I'm going to put my little no 
go. 

165
00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,200
I forgot these had our names on 
them. 

166
00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,680
Yeah, these are these. 
There are wonderful additions 

167
00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,560
that Jeff made and personally 
delivered to everyone you know 

168
00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,200
months ago, Eric. 
You're going to have to write 

169
00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,200
your name on your paper. 
We'll have to. 

170
00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,240
Yeah, we'll get a custom 1. 
And there we go. 

171
00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,600
We got the pen. 
He's ready. 

172
00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:34,480
And yeah, Jeff, take us away 
with our first question. 

173
00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,400
All right, let's just remind 
everybody the rules. 

174
00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,000
I'm gonna say the thing, and 
then on the count of three, 

175
00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,160
we're gonna hold up our paddles.
Don't be spoiling it by paddling

176
00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,920
out too soon like premature 123 
and then we'll show our. 

177
00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,520
In there. 
Our paddles. 

178
00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,600
Is it 1? 
23. 

179
00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,680
Show it or is it 1-2? 
Show it. 

180
00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,360
Oh my gosh, Derek, do it with a 
weapon. 

181
00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,880
That's right. 
That's it. 

182
00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,640
That's a big difference. 
Is it 1-2 show or is it 123 

183
00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:09,240
show? 
123 show, we'll say. 

184
00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,240
There you go. 
Now that we've spent half an 

185
00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,920
hour on the rules, the last. 
I'm really. 

186
00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,040
I didn't tell you guys this, but
at the end of the show I want 

187
00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,880
each of you to have your own, so
start thinking about that as we 

188
00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,960
go. 
Through Oh boy. 

189
00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,520
And we'll go around the room one
time, so. 

190
00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,680
I already did mine. 
All right, first one, let's 

191
00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,880
let's start easy. 
Hopefully all of you have got to

192
00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,680
experience this. 
Maybe not, but you've probably 

193
00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:34,080
seen vlogs about it. 
If not, I have a vlog about it. 

194
00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,240
You can go check that one out. 
But let's start with Zootopia. 

195
00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:46,080
Better Zootgether. 
Love it or leave it. 123 and go.

196
00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,000
Oh no. 
All right. 

197
00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,320
Well, Derek, why not? 
Let's go with you. 1st I like 

198
00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,200
it. 
I didn't at all. 

199
00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,120
No, I really didn't. 
Think about it. 

200
00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,880
Have you seen the movie? 
Yes, I saw the movie. 

201
00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,200
And by the way, the fact that 
that is the #1 animated movie of

202
00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,920
all time is ridiculous. 
It's not a good movie. 

203
00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,680
It's a fine movie, but it's not 
a good movie. 

204
00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,240
And they could have made that 
bug movie. 

205
00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,160
Annie and I went to go see it 
and it was like we were excited.

206
00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,480
We actually waited for like 30 
minutes for it. 

207
00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:24,240
It just was loud and there was 
no real plot and the, the 

208
00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,400
animation, the motion and all 
that stuff. 

209
00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,280
It was just like, now we're in 
the water and we're in the 

210
00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,440
desert, we're in the sand, 
here's lights and here's it just

211
00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,520
was no way in comparison as good
as it's tough to be a bug. 

212
00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,680
So I found it to be a huge 
disappointment that I honest to 

213
00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:43,680
God I will never watch it again.
Eric, I need a rebuttal here 

214
00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:44,480
man. 
Come on. 

215
00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,640
Save us a little. 
I don't think I can save you. 

216
00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,960
So I am, I'm in West Virginia. 
I haven't had my trip yet to go 

217
00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,200
down there. 
So I've only seen it from like, 

218
00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,440
and I'm just one of those like, 
I'm not going to hate on 

219
00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,720
anything I haven't seen yet. 
I'm not going to really stick up

220
00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,520
for Zootopia the movie. 
I've seen it. 

221
00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,000
I kind and and please everyone 
that's, you know, animators and 

222
00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,600
our creative friends. 
I kind of boycott the sequels in

223
00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,280
the live action remakes right 
now. 

224
00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,960
I'm just like, please create new
things for us. 

225
00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,120
And I know these are great. 
And and yes, it's probably 

226
00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,320
better that this beat out the 
live action Lion King because 

227
00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,760
that's not really an animated 
film. 

228
00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,000
So it is kind of better that we 
actually have an animated film. 

229
00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:28,440
But I went off the premise of do
I think it's going to be better 

230
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,880
than what they previously had, 
which was it's tough to be a 

231
00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,600
bug, which I haven't seen for 
five years because I just kind 

232
00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,800
of walked by it. 
So that is my preference. 

233
00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,920
I I haven't seen it. 
So let's probably talk to 

234
00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,960
somebody who's actually seen it 
and liked it, where I'm just 

235
00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,080
saying I'm not hating until I 
actually see it. 

236
00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,840
And I believe the animatronic's 
cool in it, right? 

237
00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,800
No, it doesn't do anything. 
Paul, let's let's go you. 

238
00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,880
OK, here's the thing, I do agree
with what Eric said about like 

239
00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,120
sequels and, and I say this 
because I listened to an 

240
00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,240
interview that Jason Bateman did
about recording the voice for 

241
00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,200
the Zootopia 2 sequel. 
And when I tell you that to this

242
00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,240
day I'm pretty sure Jason 
Bateman doesn't know what the 

243
00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,480
movie was about. 
IA 100% stand by that statement.

244
00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,240
And that's how mass produced 
sequels have become in this 

245
00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,240
space. 
And these people go in and they 

246
00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,000
record their voice and they have
no idea of the context of what 

247
00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,680
they're recording. 
So I do agree with that. 

248
00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,640
Now, that being said, they could
have replaced Tough to be a Bug 

249
00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,440
with absolutely anything and it 
would have been superior. 

250
00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:36,960
After the bajillion years, that 
Tough to be a Bug has been 

251
00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,840
opened. 
The grasshopper came out and he 

252
00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,480
looked like the Tin Man needing 
some oil by the end of it. 

253
00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,920
I mean, that ride was rough. 
And you've now injected recent 

254
00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,720
IP and recent nostalgia, some 
cool songs, some cool tunes that

255
00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,360
kids are actually going to want 
and to go sit in this ride so it

256
00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,480
doesn't become what was that you
In our universal show, someone 

257
00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,600
said that we needed kind of like
a nursing home portal or 

258
00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,640
something. 
And I mean, that's what this 

259
00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,080
ride was because no one was 
going there. 

260
00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,960
So the, you know, 5 people would
go experience it. 

261
00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,040
Now it's actually getting some 
love again. 

262
00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,480
People are going to it. 
And this is the heart of this 

263
00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,280
park. 
You know, people should want to 

264
00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,200
go go into the tree of life and 
experience something. 

265
00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,440
So I got it and they. 
Slam and they and they will go 

266
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,160
Paul, they'll go once and they 
won't go again. 

267
00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,600
I guarantee you. 
No one gets to animal Kingdom 

268
00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,840
and says, Oh my God, we got to 
go back and see Zootopia 2 

269
00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,120
Better Together, together, 
whatever. 

270
00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,240
No one says that they go once 
they walk away and go, you know,

271
00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,560
the bug one was better. 
I guarantee, guarantee it. 

272
00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,840
I'm giving rebuttal. 
What do you got? 

273
00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,240
I disagree with Derek. 
The the tough to be a bug was 

274
00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,000
traumatizing to children. 
And like, you've got you've got 

275
00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000
the rusty. 
Yeah, the the grasshopper, he 

276
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,640
was scary. 
You've got the spiders that 

277
00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,400
descend upon you where you could
just you could hear the screams 

278
00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,160
and it wasn't like fun roller 
coaster screams. 

279
00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,920
It was like traumatic screams. 
This is why the kids aren't 

280
00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,920
going back, Derek is because. 
They're Tropic. 

281
00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,520
The stink bug is no better than 
the skunk on Figment. 

282
00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,040
I mean, it's the same thing, 
just a different suit on. 

283
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,800
Or, you know, different. 
So I, I, I thought the bug show 

284
00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,160
was fine, but we maybe went like
a a couple times in the however 

285
00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,560
many years. 
I don't know this to me, the 

286
00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,280
Zootopia thing, it's it's 
colorful, it's fresh, it's 

287
00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,120
funny, you know, it's not 
scaring. 

288
00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,000
It's, you know, the, it's, it's 
children can, can ride. 

289
00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,320
It's not a ride Paul called a 
ride. 

290
00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,840
So it's not scary to them. 
I don't know. 

291
00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,360
Yeah and well and tough to be a 
bug had an element in the seats 

292
00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,920
where like it was like bugs and 
that always creeped the crap out

293
00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,640
of me It it was super creepy 
they. 

294
00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,560
Were like Megan especially like 
Megan? 

295
00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,080
I'm not, I don't, I don't want 
to like ruin it, but that effect

296
00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,400
is still there. 
But it's hilarious now. 

297
00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,520
Like I absolutely love that 
effect now. 

298
00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,920
Like they took something that I 
hated and they made it something

299
00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,680
that I love. 
Slam dunk. 

300
00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,960
Derek's wrong. 
Yeah, and I'll just sum things 

301
00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,000
up. 
I disagree wholeheartedly. 

302
00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,840
I think Eric Derek must not have
been in the right frame of mind 

303
00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,960
because Amy and I watched 
Zootopia 2 the other night and 

304
00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,360
we both laughed through the 
whole thing, that some of the 

305
00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,600
one liners in that show are 
better than Disney's done in 

306
00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,920
years. 
So I don't know what mood Derek 

307
00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,160
was in that night, but he missed
the soul of that movie because 

308
00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,440
it is very good. 
The only cut I have on Zootopia 

309
00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,040
is I feel like they should have 
done a little more with the 

310
00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,240
theater rather than just new 
show without any kind of 

311
00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,280
repackaging. 
But having said that, I think 

312
00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,760
it's a win. 
I I've I've seen it five times 

313
00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,840
and I've loved. 
It every time. 

314
00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,480
So. 
So Jeff has gone back. 

315
00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,320
So Derek. 
And Amy has gone back and our 

316
00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,080
friends have gone back. 
So yeah. 

317
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,960
So yes, that's a love for 
Zootopia. 

318
00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,080
This for Derek. 
And the police will be waiting 

319
00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,800
for the 6th visit. 
I went back in time and watched 

320
00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,960
the first one of these shows 
that we did, and there was a 

321
00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,280
couple that I kind of wanted to 
revisit because we did them 

322
00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,800
before we knew everything about 
them and we kind of covered them

323
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,120
as best we could. 
But now that they've been around

324
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,520
a while, kind of want to take 
another stab at it. 

325
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,920
And the first one is Member 
Magic Beyond. 

326
00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,560
They paid for $99. 
Add on to your DVC membership 3 

327
00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:45,160
21 All right unanimous finally, 
Paul, you were a big proponent. 

328
00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,840
I listened to that show and you 
trying to sell it. 

329
00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,240
I wanna be a. 
Real Paul now. 

330
00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,440
Well, look, I think the I'm not.
I'm still not lost at the 

331
00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:59,360
concept and we are still members
because we wanna just see what 

332
00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,880
those perks are about and what 
they are. 

333
00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,640
So we do still subscribe to 
Member Magic Beyond. 

334
00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,359
But at the end of the day, I 
think the miss with this program

335
00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,400
is it can be so much more. 
And this is one of those moments

336
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,440
where I sit here a year later 
and the data nerd in me wants to

337
00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:22,040
see the churn statistics for 
member Magic Beyond because I do

338
00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,760
believe that there was a huge 
number of people that did not 

339
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,440
renew, so much so that they sent
out magic band sliders to 

340
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,560
everyone that I. 
Believe so big. 

341
00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,440
Giant magic band sliders like 
they went all out 15 cent like 

342
00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,880
ramen noodle like money magic 
band sliders here and they sent 

343
00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,400
it to everyone that subscribed 
in 2025 here at the beginning of

344
00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,960
the year, thanking them for for 
their subscription, reminding 

345
00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,440
them to subscribe for the new 
year. 

346
00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,440
But the new year perks there's 
nothing really new. 

347
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,960
There was like one or two 
things. 

348
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,960
One was like something that no 
one would actually use because 

349
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,120
it's like a photo. 
Alani, hey. 

350
00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,960
We can use that this year. 
Glad we're still members, Jeff. 

351
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,520
I might have to change my 
answer. 

352
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,120
We. 
Forget to do that. 

353
00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:11,440
I'm so sad because that's like 
the only benefit we would have. 

354
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,680
Paid $100 for this photo. 
But yeah. 

355
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,720
And there were a couple other 
small benefits, but they, they 

356
00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,680
just didn't judge this up the 
way that I thought that they 

357
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,120
could. 
And I think even the, the, the 

358
00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:28,840
feedback in the broader 
community was I would pay twice 

359
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:34,120
as much for this if you did XY 
or Z, you know, give me dining 

360
00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:37,720
discounts at quick service 
restaurants or bring back 

361
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,680
something table Wonderlandish 
that gives me alcohol discounts 

362
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,560
like that used to do. 
So there's just there, there's 

363
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,720
a, there's several different 
ways that this program could be 

364
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,240
successful. 
So I'm surprised that rather 

365
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,240
than a magic band slider, we 
didn't receive a survey at the 

366
00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,600
end of the year asking us what 
we wanted for continuing our 

367
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,280
subscription. 
That was the miss in the 

368
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,600
program. 
And I think that I'm not quite 

369
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,040
sure we see this continue to 
succeed if they don't make those

370
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,280
drastic changes. 
I'm very long winded today. 

371
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,960
I'm sorry. 
No, that's great. 

372
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,840
I tend to agree. 
Eric, are you a MMB member? 

373
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,600
You know, The funny thing is I 
remember when it first came out 

374
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,440
that I was interested in 
learning more about it. 

375
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,920
And then it just completely 
like, I don't think I would use 

376
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,720
any of that. 
And I recall that my wife looked

377
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,680
into it for one perk and that's 
how bad it is now that I don't 

378
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,960
even remember what the perks 
were, that it was a matter of 

379
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,360
like, all right, a guy from West
Virginia who goes to the parks a

380
00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:38,440
couple times a year. 
It just didn't seem like it made

381
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,800
any sense and I can't I remember
what the perk was that I was 

382
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,160
like, all right, we should check
on this and we didn't qualify 

383
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,640
maybe or there was some aspect 
I'm like, well, forget it, 

384
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,880
whatever. 
So I think it was when the. 

385
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,920
Eric, I think it was when they 
offered a 75% discount on Disney

386
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,520
ramen. 
That's what you were. 

387
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,480
No, you know, we went to 
Disneyland and there was 

388
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,520
something there that it was a 
matter of like you could do 

389
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,560
something and maybe a discounted
Disneyland. 

390
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,240
Yes, there were discounted 
Disneyland. 

391
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,960
Oh, you can't do it on the 
weekend, so you had no weekend 

392
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,440
tickets? 
And we didn't qualify for some 

393
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,080
reason, and I don't remember if 
it was because we had X amount 

394
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,800
of points needed a couple more 
this or that. 

395
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,760
And we're like, well, what? 
Because we were thinking about 

396
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,960
buying it. 
And yeah, so we we didn't buy, 

397
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,080
we didn't find a reason. 
I think that they definitely 

398
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,200
could make money off of this for
having some new perks. 

399
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,520
So I think it's a good concept, 
but I don't think there was 

400
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,720
anything that was like, oh, we 
absolutely have to do that. 

401
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,840
So that's kind of why I gave my 
no, no vote on that. 

402
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,880
Amy, anything else to add? 
You know for the right for the 

403
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,360
right member it it's money in 
the bank. 

404
00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:43,840
If you are always buying those 
one time use points, you know 

405
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,920
what I mean? 
That's the buy one, get one free

406
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,600
that that's your $100 right 
there. 

407
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:55,320
Or if you come and you always 
need the photo pass for a long 

408
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,720
trip, then that's, that's, you 
know, more of a value than the 

409
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,440
$100 right there. 
But it's just they're very 

410
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:08,040
specific cases that actually 
don't go with most. 

411
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,840
What are you laughing at? 
You don't wanna know there. 

412
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,800
There's a line. 
There's a line in Pretty Woman. 

413
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,360
They're very specific cases of 
crackheads. 

414
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,080
I yes, I do remember that I. 
Don't know why that came to my 

415
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,760
head but. 
Wow, thank you. 

416
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,320
So they're very specific people 
and not everyone like on the, 

417
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,400
you know, Venn diagram overlaps 
those. 

418
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280
And so when you look at the 
perks for us, there's really 

419
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,400
nothing, you know, if we're 
going out to Disneyland, we're 

420
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,240
probably going to be using some 
weekends and you in the the park

421
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,640
tickets, you can't, they're not 
for weekends. 

422
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,240
You know, the photo pass is one 
single 30 day allotment. 

423
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,440
So yeah, that's not going to do 
any good if you live here. 

424
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,640
And then, you know, we don't 
we're trying, we don't buy one 

425
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,880
time use points anymore. 
So the the one thing that we get

426
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:07,600
is the they put your name on the
front if you go into a lounge. 

427
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,000
Yeah, but OK, I had to wait like
5 less minutes for the lounge, 

428
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,960
you know what I mean? 
And there is a little bit the 

429
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,800
after lounge access, but we 
don't go there enough for that 

430
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,480
$100 to really be worth it. 
So if we don't get that one free

431
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,560
Aulani printed photo this year, 
I'm really disappointed. 

432
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,080
I put a reminder in on on Siri 
right now so that she reminds us

433
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,760
to take that picture. 
Derek, bring us home. 

434
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,080
Oh, are we still talking about 
this? 

435
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:41,080
I mean, no, I, I think what they
should have done instead of 

436
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,640
making it look like a cash grab,
which Disney can sometimes feel 

437
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,960
like, you know, saying, hey, you
just gave us $30,000 for a 

438
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,680
timeshare to buy direct and hey,
can you give us another 100? 

439
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,360
And here's these extra things. 
I just think they should have 

440
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,480
scrapped it and just included it
as another direct benefit. 

441
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,720
If you bought directly with 
Disney, that to me would have 

442
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,440
solve everything because if 
you're asking people to pay 

443
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,800
extra, you better have a good 
reason about why I paid extra. 

444
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,680
And Amy summed it up saying, oh,
I'm so glad I paid $100 because 

445
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,120
I saved 2 minutes to visit 
Millie's Mile High Club at the 

446
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,480
Magic Kingdom. 
Like no one wants to do that 

447
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,680
for, you know, for $100.00. 
So I just think they should have

448
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,080
included it with the direct 
perks and made it more of a 

449
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,680
reason or try to make it more of
a reason for you to buy direct 

450
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,400
with Disney. 
So I think it's silly and I 

451
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,080
think it'll be gone totally only
within two years, mark my words.

452
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:38,320
Let it be written all right next
Eric I'm not sure you've done 

453
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,400
this yet if you haven't done 
Zootopia but maybe you'll 

454
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:47,000
surprise me Geo 82 at Epcot for 
those that don't know this is 

455
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,240
the new adults only lounge in 
front of spaceship earth 32 

456
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,080
we're. 
Definitely not going to agree on

457
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,440
this any like. 
Falls halfway. 

458
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,640
You don't know what to do. 
Well, Paul, tell us why you're 

459
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,760
halfway. 
You start us off. 

460
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,400
Here's the thing, I I absolutely
love that space. 

461
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,000
I I think it I think they 
knocked kind of the design of 

462
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,280
that out of the park. 
It's just a really cool concept.

463
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,720
People will disagree with me 
here, but having an adults only 

464
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,480
space, I think Disney should do 
more of you know, I think that 

465
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,440
that is a cool element, 
especially in kind of what is 

466
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,240
the adults park, which is Epcot.
It's really turned into that 

467
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,360
between, you know, drinking 
around the world or you know, a 

468
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,200
lot of these festivals are very 
adult, you know, oriented. 

469
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,360
So I absolutely loved it the 
time that we went there. 

470
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,200
The drinks were very good. 
The descriptions of the drinks 

471
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,960
were very good. 
The two knocks that I give it 

472
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,680
and this is where it's really 
difficult for me to go back is 1

473
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,120
on the price of of a lot of the 
stuff in there. 

474
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:57,800
It is elevated for what the 
experience is beyond what I 

475
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,480
think some of it could be worth 
and that that knocks down 

476
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,640
further because of the ambience 
in the space. 

477
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,640
It's a beautiful space. 
It's a cacophonous space like 

478
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,120
voices echo in this room a lot. 
So it becomes very loud within 

479
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:20,040
that room. 
And I, I would, I would be 

480
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,400
willing to pay the prices 
they're asking if these other 

481
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,040
elements and these other boxes 
were checked. 

482
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,760
And because they're not, that's,
that ends up kind of just 

483
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,920
putting me in this space where 
we're not rushing back, we're 

484
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,320
not trying to go back. 
But if I have something to 

485
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,880
celebrate, maybe I'll go. 
But it's got to be a pretty big 

486
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,640
celebration. 
And even then, I'm probably just

487
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,400
going to go to the salt shack 
down the road and get some wings

488
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,080
and a beer. 
But. 

489
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,840
Paul's like, I really loved it, 
but next time I go, can everyone

490
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,800
just shut up? 
We just all sit and drink in 

491
00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,360
silence and think our thoughts. 
I'll go ahead and go next 

492
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:01,800
because I thought I was going to
hate it. 

493
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,840
I really did think I was not 
going to like it. 

494
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,000
But we finally got to experience
it the other day and it is 

495
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040
beautiful. 
It's really pretty in there, and

496
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,520
I didn't think the prices were 
as bad as everybody said that. 

497
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,000
That bourbon flight that I know 
Derek's gonna talk about here in

498
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,680
a second. 
Is good. 

499
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,840
It's a pretty darn good value 
for what you get. 

500
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,560
The view is pretty good. 
I would never pay for their like

501
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,840
fireworks thing cuz like, I 
don't want to have to take out a

502
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,480
second mortgage on my house. 
But the space is very nice and I

503
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,880
think it's a nice addition to 
Epcot that kind of gives it a 

504
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,680
little bit of an elevated 
experience. 

505
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,960
That's all I really have to say 
about it, Derek. 

506
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,920
Perfectly said. 
We actually wound up going me 

507
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,600
and Annie twice in like a 
three-week span. 

508
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,240
Once was just the two of us and 
then we met my son Owen's 

509
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,240
girlfriend's parents who were in
town and we met them about two 

510
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320
weeks later, went up there. 
We loved it. 

511
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,440
Like you said, the bourbon 
flight is phenomenal. 

512
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,600
It's just nice to have a space 
that you know, at least when we 

513
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,200
went, it was super quiet. 
So it was just really quiet. 

514
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,320
Just a beautiful atmosphere. 
There's lots of Epcot history in

515
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,240
there. 
The view is really, really 

516
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,080
unique and neat. 
But yeah, it's not a hey, we're 

517
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,960
going to Epcot and we're going 
to do this every single trip 

518
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,560
type of a thing. 
But I think, like Jeff said, if 

519
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,160
there's like a special occasion 
and if again, it's hard to get 

520
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,600
in, because I've tried the last 
few times that we went to Epcot,

521
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,960
just kind of playing around, 
like, OK, you know what, we 

522
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,360
should go back to GO-8. 
Nope, it's all booked up. 

523
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,360
But for me, I love that it's 
there. 

524
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,800
We had a fantastic time and of 
course, it works out perfectly 

525
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,800
if it's during a festival. 
We were there during the arts 

526
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,640
festival. 
And that's exactly what they 

527
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,880
want is give me and Annie a 
couple of bourbon flights and 

528
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,520
then go purchase some art. 
So it worked out well for them. 

529
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,080
I think we saw you on one of 
those occasions just stumbling 

530
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,240
out of Epcot. 
Wait, that was that was the end 

531
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,920
of the night. 
Eric, Amy, any other thoughts? 

532
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240
So I, I'm gonna be opposite. 
So believe me, and I will say I 

533
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,920
will speak on behalf of the 
parents. 

534
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,560
Listen, I dislike my kids just 
as much as I like, dislike 

535
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,440
everyone else's kids just as 
much like it. 

536
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,160
It is one of those things where 
I would love to get away from 

537
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,920
the children. 
It is very difficult as a parent

538
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,760
to be like, oh, here's this 
great new offering that I'll 

539
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,960
never get to see because I 
travel with my family and it's 

540
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,720
like, well, I don't just 
randomly have a babysitter 

541
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,240
that's going to take this. 
So, OK, so it's great that 

542
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,120
they're opening up something 
that was closed off that some 

543
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,640
people get to witness, right? 
There are elements of like, all 

544
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,160
right, maybe it's adult after a 
certain thing or like, it sucks 

545
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440
that we're not going to be able 
to witness it until our kids, 

546
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,080
you know, I got 10 more years or
I just don't bring my youngest 

547
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,280
to the park. 
So it's one of those things 

548
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,200
where, yeah, I'd probably like 
it better if it was the DVC 

549
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,160
lounge, but they already have 
one of those and they're 

550
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,200
creating those. 
So I'm not going to, you know, 

551
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,720
complain about that. 
There's a lot of different 

552
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,760
lounges in Epcot that I would 
rather see being utilized for 

553
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,600
just some than than being closed
off, which let's look at a lot 

554
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,880
of places over there. 
There's a lot of lounges, old 

555
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,960
membership lounges that's not 
being used at all. 

556
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,680
So I'm happy they do that and I 
would have an opportunity, but 

557
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,880
as a parent that's not going to 
be able to see it. 

558
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,880
I mean, I can't vote. 
Hey, this is the greatest thing 

559
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,040
ever when I can't really go do 
that. 

560
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,280
And I know that's, you know, 
there are a lot of families that

561
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,760
go to Disney. 
So I, although I'm a Disney 

562
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,840
adult and I would love to go 
without them, there's still a 

563
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,600
lot. 
So it's not accessible and I 

564
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,880
don't know if I'd want to pay 
the price to bring 5 anyway from

565
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,920
the from the likes of it. 
So that's my two cents on 

566
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,160
something like that. 
But I understand why this does 

567
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,640
fit a great demographic that 
Disney is really wanting to give

568
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,360
some great spaces to. 
But if you can't hear, then why 

569
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,680
can't you just have the kids 
'cause that's literally any 

570
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,960
other place where you just go to
Dumbo Circus little area and you

571
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,880
can't hear. 
Same difference there. 

572
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,960
Good point. 
I mean, you're not wrong. 

573
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960
It does limit the access to 
certain things, but I, I, I 

574
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,160
equate it as they're going on a 
Disney cruise. 

575
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,560
They're still an adults only 
section of the Disney cruise. 

576
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,520
You know what I mean? 
I guess the trade off is you can

577
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,560
drop your kids off at the 
Babysitters Club, but I don't 

578
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,680
know. 
Amy Well, I think that's what 

579
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,760
they mission space. 
Just drop the kids off at 

580
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,720
mission space. 
They get lost in that little 

581
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,400
that Chuck E Cheese ball thing 
you you don't have to worry 

582
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,840
about, then you can go. 
So I'm going to try that next 

583
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,200
time. 
For me, I like it's, it's a 

584
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,560
value thing for me. 
Like, yeah, it's a beautiful 

585
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:22,320
space, but I'm not a, I'm not a 
big drinker, so I enjoy the just

586
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,200
fun mocktails. 
And there's a lot of lounges on 

587
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800
Disney property that have some 
really great mocktails. 

588
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,960
And obviously when you're buying
alcohol, you're not spending as 

589
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,680
much as you would on an 
alcoholic drink. 

590
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,560
They only have two mocktails. 
They are about 3 ounces of 

591
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,200
liquid each. 
Like seriously, you could, you 

592
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,000
could take it on a plane because
that's how small it is. 

593
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,640
And they're $17.00 each. 
And so that's a lot for an, for 

594
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040
an alcoholic drink. 
I know it's, they're made with, 

595
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120
you know, seed lip non alcoholic
spirit. 

596
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560
That doesn't do it for me. 
I'm not, I'm not paying for that

597
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,760
because it, it's just, you know,
tastes like fake alcohol. 

598
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,640
Like I'll just keep bringing in 
a dole's then you know what I 

599
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,160
mean? 
Like I just, they need some, 

600
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:13,080
wait a minute, if I want 
something that tastes like fake 

601
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,960
alcohol, I'm going to drink in 
adults because it's cheaper. 

602
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,000
No, but like, like make some 
cocktails that bring in some, 

603
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,440
you know, some, some flavors, 
some fruits and things like 

604
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,760
that, that don't have to be as 
expensive as an alcoholic drink.

605
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,640
I, I don't love the food there. 
I didn't think any of it was 

606
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,680
that good. 
I mean, does anything even stick

607
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,160
out to you that you like? 
Oh, I I can't wait to go back 

608
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,800
and get that. 
I I would say that the brown 

609
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,840
butter old fashioned is probably
one of the best old fashions on 

610
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,480
property. 
Food wise, nothing. 

611
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,720
Yeah, I don't even like, 
remember a. 

612
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,800
Stand out like there. 
There are stories behind every 

613
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,000
drink and they're doing some 
special stuff. 

614
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,120
But again, kind of like all 
these things have to be all the 

615
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,520
elements of the entire 
experience have to be in place 

616
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,120
for me to then really appreciate
what that is, if that. 

617
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Makes sense the the fireworks 
package if you do the fireworks 

618
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:16,960
thing you it is $179 per person 
before taxes and gratuity. 

619
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,440
So we're talking for a couple 
over $400.00 after taxes and 

620
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,760
gratuity and you're not even 
guaranteed a spot that's as like

621
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,200
right by the window like it 
there. 

622
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,480
We remember they pointed out 
what tables were for that in 

623
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,600
front of them there. 
Were 3 or 4 tables like, not 

624
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,520
and. 
It reminds me of the time. 

625
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,680
That always happens to us too. 
We get the worst table when we 

626
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,960
do this sorts of packages. 
Yeah, we did the package at the 

627
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,120
Rose and Crown. 
Yeah, they put us in this corner

628
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,680
table behind everybody and I was
like, can we move over there? 

629
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,080
We. 
Had a lot of money for this. 

630
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,080
Yeah. 
So I just, I there's no amount 

631
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,440
of endless booze for for a what 
to 2 hour span that I think is 

632
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,200
worth $400.00 for a couple. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

633
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,840
Now we need to get the Kriegers 
to Vegas and do the the High 

634
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,280
Roller Ferris wheel because you 
only go around twice, but there 

635
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,680
every other car is a bar and you
get to drink as much as you 

636
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,080
possibly can in the times that 
you go around 2 circuits on the 

637
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,720
High Roller. 
I feel like that's a value right

638
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,800
there, yeah. 
So Amy will have about 6 O duels

639
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,920
on the way around. 
All right, I've never had no 

640
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,360
duels. 
I'm just saying like why do I 

641
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,240
want to pay that much for fake 
booze? 

642
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,240
All right, let's stick with the 
lounge theme for a minute and 

643
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,520
talk about Beacon Barrel. 
Beacon Barrel. 3. 2. 1. 

644
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,640
I'm like that. 
I I think ours is tainted by 

645
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,760
experience. 
OK. 

646
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,800
We'll talk about it. 
So we were just at Bacon Barrel.

647
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,120
I actually got to go to a media 
preview by myself. 

648
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:01,000
So Paul didn't get to go. 
So I got to try some things and 

649
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,120
I was like, oh, this is really 
cool. 

650
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,320
I'd love to, you know, I can't 
wait for Paul to see it. 

651
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:13,040
So we went the night that we 
stayed club level and Jeff and 

652
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,960
Dan came with us and we got a 
standing spot and it's just 

653
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,960
like, it just sours the whole 
experience, you know what I 

654
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,480
mean? 
That like, oh, I've been 

655
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,000
waiting, we've been walking 
around the parks. 

656
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,480
We're tired, you know this, we 
couldn't get a reservation till 

657
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,360
like 10 something PM. 
So we did the parade, we watched

658
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,800
the fireworks. 
We were, you know, you're tired 

659
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,000
of standing and walking around 
the park and then you wait for 

660
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,840
your reservation. 
And that's what they have for 

661
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,960
you, a place where you have to 
stand. 

662
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,080
And like I'm old, my back gets 
stiff. 

663
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,480
You know, Amy? 
Likes to have a seat if you've 

664
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,520
ever gone need a seat anywhere 
with her, she's going to find 

665
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,440
the seat first right and and I 
will say it's not just the fact 

666
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,720
that it was a standing spot, but
85% of that venue has a pretty 

667
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,440
good angle of seeing what's 
going on. 

668
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,640
The one room that doesn't if you
get put in the cannonball room, 

669
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,840
I think it is or I. 
Thought it was the map room. 

670
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,400
It's called the map room the. 
Cannonball shot through the 

671
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,400
wall. 
It's stuck in the wall, 

672
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,960
whatever. 
You can't see anything. 

673
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,440
Nothing's going on. 
Right. 

674
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,840
At least the Olga's, if you have
to stand, you're standing at the

675
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,560
bar where you can see 
everything. 

676
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,040
You're right, you can't see 
anything. 

677
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,160
And then you're, you know, 
you're squished in there with 

678
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,520
all these other people that they
also put at this giant long 

679
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,360
table that everyone else has to 
stand at. 

680
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,320
And it's just not a comfortable 
experience. 

681
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,600
You can't enjoy the, you know, 
the any of it. 

682
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Now I got. 
To run out of the room when 

683
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,680
something's happening and stand 
in front of someone elses table.

684
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,760
Well, it's happening I. 
Do think they need some more 

685
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,520
options too. 
So there's the food is kind of 

686
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,960
limited. 
I know it's just a lounge. 

687
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,520
They're only gonna have a couple
things, but, you know, if you 

688
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,080
don't like calamari, those, oh, 
what are those things called? 

689
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,640
They're like the little corn 
cakes with the, you know, the 

690
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,360
chicken and stuff in it. 
There's a veggie on the chicken 

691
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,760
one. 
There are some seriously spicy 

692
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,840
Peppers in those. 
So if spice isn't your thing 

693
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,920
like that will knock you down. 
We didn't. 

694
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,440
You didn't try it, but I had it.
Yeah, we just had a couple of 

695
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,960
drinks. 
And the other thing for our 

696
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,200
experience was we didn't have 
the greatest service experience.

697
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,800
Our our our cast member that 
served us was great at the 

698
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,040
beginning, fully in character. 
Our great like he was done on 

699
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,840
the point. 
Every joke known to man and he 

700
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,120
dropped our check off and then I
think he picked up a check for 

701
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,800
another table and then he. 
Said they were at our table 

702
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,360
because we all at the share our.
Table all at our standing table.

703
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,080
And then he said, well I'll see 
you guys later. 

704
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,840
And I'm pretty sure he went in 
the back and was checking out 

705
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,880
for the night because he did not
come back for the better part of

706
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,560
20 to 20 minutes or so and no 
one else wanted to help check us

707
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,360
out. 
We asked, we had asked three 

708
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,440
times, different pass members 
like, hey, can we check out here

709
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,240
at the bar? 
No, I'm sorry, you have to check

710
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:57,080
out with your server. 
And while we're confident it 

711
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,800
could have been the people that 
just left that night, no one 

712
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,240
would have ever noticed. 
We're not that kind of people. 

713
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:05,760
So, you know, we, we did finally
track him down. 

714
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,520
And by that point the character 
was gone and. 

715
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,360
Kind of. 
Like it was like, why are you 

716
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,640
still here? 
Like. 

717
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,040
Can you? 
We haven't paid, Yeah. 

718
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,360
We haven't paid you. 
Yet I'm pretty sure you'd like 

719
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,400
that. 
So tainted by experience. 

720
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,120
There's a lot of good things 
going for it, but yeah. 

721
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,440
Don't use our exam. 
Let's try some of those. 

722
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,880
Eric, you got something good to 
say? 

723
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,800
Well, I look at it from 
imagineering and experience 

724
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,800
standpoint. 
I, I know when we had the 

725
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,240
communicore Hall cafeteria, you 
know, college break room 

726
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,280
experience that we, we have low 
expectations. 

727
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,800
So when we see something that's 
actually put together that has 

728
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,040
time, energy, detail, like put 
into something that's not 

729
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,520
necessarily attraction, I want 
to give it the kudos in the 

730
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,320
world. 
Now I've been in the same 

731
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,600
situation when we first went to 
Oga's cat canteen, same 

732
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,920
scenario. 
You're like excited. 

733
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,760
You're getting, you're, you're 
going to spend a decent amount 

734
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,240
of money. 
You had to get the, the, it 

735
00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:59,800
takes a lot to get those 
reservations. 

736
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,200
And then you get SAT or 
basically put somewhere where 

737
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,160
you're standing with another 
family and, and you're like 

738
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,320
standing, I want that table over
there. 

739
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,360
I, I don't want to be around 
these people that I don't know. 

740
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,720
So like I can I see the 
experience of that and I don't 

741
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,760
know how how they get around 
that or or maybe just put all 

742
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,600
seating locations you don't have
to have stand. 

743
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,720
I understand we want to fit some
more bodies in there. 

744
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,560
But yeah, when you wait all that
time, that is very difficult. 

745
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,200
But I also think from a where 
they're going in building, this 

746
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,360
is a far much better situation 
than hey, we're going to make 

747
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,840
these flex spaces and they don't
have any immersion. 

748
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,760
They are completely flex. 
So I think that's why I'm very 

749
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,480
pro this experience, although I 
I, it always is a pain to have 

750
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,560
to try to get these things. 
They're so limited capacity and 

751
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,280
it really does come down to, you
know, if that server was 

752
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,960
amazing, you might have been 
like, all right, I can tolerate 

753
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,360
this. 
But if you have a bad seating 

754
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,040
arrangement, bad room, server 
wasn't great, you're already 

755
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,560
paying more. 
You already had to go through 

756
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,000
the hassle to get that 
experience. 

757
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,760
You need it to all go really 
well to evangelize about it. 

758
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,720
So they're really painting and 
putting themselves in a really 

759
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,720
tight bubble here. 
That one thing goes wrong, then 

760
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,080
you're like, what was it worth 
the value? 

761
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:16,640
So I like where they're going, 
but I could also see where it's 

762
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,320
going to come down to an 
individual experience. 

763
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,960
And I once looked and on Google,
you can leave reviews for this 

764
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,800
and it wasn't doing great. 
There's a lot of people that 

765
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,360
were giving it a thumbs down on 
Google reviews when it first 

766
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,400
opened because of similar 
circumstances. 

767
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Although when you hear online 
everybody's like this is the 

768
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,680
greatest thing ever, but a lot 
of people were mad with similar 

769
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,000
circumstances. 
Well, and off the record, we 

770
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,800
have heard that they are re 
looking at certain elements of 

771
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,040
it now that it's been open for a
little while. 

772
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:45,320
We heard that, you know, 
potentially there might even be 

773
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,680
stools or seating coming to that
area. 

774
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,320
That we hopefully they're 
taking. 

775
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,120
So yeah. 
Hopefully you're taking some of 

776
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,400
that the heart. 
I do want to say there's an 

777
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,440
awesome cast member that is a 
host. 

778
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,760
Jeff, do you remember her name 
starts with an L? 

779
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,000
Lisa. 
Lisa, she was great. 

780
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,800
I really enjoy talking to her 
and I know that when Jeff was 

781
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200
there, she kind of got, she had 
a little bit more time and she 

782
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,880
could tell Jeff a little bit 
more about the theming and the 

783
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,160
story behind it. 
She was very busy that night 

784
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,760
when we were there, but she was 
very nice. 

785
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,280
Yeah. 
And I think for me is kind of to

786
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,360
Eric's point, it, it is it's an 
immersive restaurant that they 

787
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,520
didn't really have to give us. 
I know there's a lot of 

788
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,240
similarities between Ogas. 
You know, you're, you're time 

789
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:31,160
limited, you're drink limited, 
you're standing room only 

790
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,480
sometimes. 
But I mean, it is a cool space 

791
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,040
from an Imagineering standpoint,
from a design standpoint, 

792
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,360
there's a lot to look at in in 
that small little area. 

793
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,720
I wish it were bigger. 
I wish it were easier to get 

794
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:46,360
into. 
It probably will be after time. 

795
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,080
I think Derek's favorite part 
about this is you can get booze 

796
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,520
at the Magic Kingdom now without
having to get a table service 

797
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,200
restaurant. 
So I think that's a nice 

798
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,920
feature. 
But I mean, I love this mug so 

799
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,520
much. 
Like this is. 

800
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Yeah, that's awesome. 
Decent quality. 

801
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,680
You know, it's kind of like the 
one they did for for Ogas when 

802
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:09,640
it first opened. 
I just, I don't know, I, I and 

803
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,440
pirates are my thing. 
Jimmy Buffett's my thing. 

804
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,720
Like I was their target 
demographic anyway. 

805
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:17,360
So I knew I was going to like 
it, but I, I, I really did enjoy

806
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,920
it and I will definitely go 
back. 

807
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:21,880
Do you think it's going to be 
like Ogas though, where it's 

808
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,280
like, that's like probably on 
the bottom of your mug it says 

809
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,040
like edition #1 and they're 
supposed to be other editions, 

810
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,080
but I'm not quite sure that 
we've ever gotten to the other 

811
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,520
editions like. 
We did finally get a new Ogas 

812
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,400
one and all they did was change 
the color. 

813
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,160
It's, it was bad, bad news. 
Derek, have you been, we haven't

814
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,640
talked to you. 
Have you been to Beacon Barrel 

815
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,960
yet? 
No, no, I have not. 

816
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,760
We have tried multiple times, 
including we're going to the 

817
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Magic Kingdom on Mother's Day 
and Annie tried and used the 

818
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,800
app, but it's just always not 
been available anytime we wanted

819
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,760
to go. 
But I would I said this on it 

820
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,920
because I think just like Eric 
said so perfectly is that 

821
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,600
sometimes we're used to, hey, 
this is coming and then it comes

822
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,880
and you're like, really that's 
the best the Disney Imagineers 

823
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,440
could do. 
Seriously, that this from 

824
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,840
everything I've I've seen all 
the videos and the blogs and all

825
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,160
that. 
I just think that whole 

826
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,240
experience of it is looks 
amazing and it looks fun and 

827
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,640
it's something that you can do 
at the Magic Kingdom and like 

828
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,720
you said, Jeff, get a couple of 
drinks. 

829
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,320
I'm sure I'm not going to be 
like, Oh my God, that was one of

830
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,240
the best drinks I've ever had. 
I've heard that they're like, 

831
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:32,680
incredibly sugary and if if you 
don't have diabetes, you wind up

832
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,120
leaving with diabetes. 
Like some of them are just 

833
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,440
absolutely insane. 
I don't know if they have beer. 

834
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,640
Do they have beer? 
Yeah. 

835
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,920
Like there's like one or two 
beers, I think, yeah. 

836
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,840
So yeah, I. 
Odules maybe? 

837
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:52,120
Let's Amy drink them all. 
Yeah, I I gave it heart because 

838
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,040
I appreciate the Imagineers 
putting in the effort. 

839
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Like Jeff said, they didn't have
to go all out like this. 

840
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,640
So I'm excited to try it. 
Hopefully I will sometime soon. 

841
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,600
The other thing that I, when I 
went back in time to watch our 

842
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,160
old show that was new, that we 
haven't really talked about 

843
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,240
since Summerfest, but cabins at 
Fort Wilderness, now that we've 

844
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,520
stayed in them, well, most of 
us, I don't know Eric, if you 

845
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,800
have or not, but we've all 
stayed in them. 

846
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,840
We've all seen them. 
We did a live show from them 

847
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,840
321. 
All right, that was easy. 

848
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Derek, I want to mainly go to 
you. 

849
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,720
I'm surprised that Derek. 
You were really hard on it in 

850
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:34,400
our last episode. 
Was it before I went or? 

851
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,760
Was it? 
Nobody had been when we when we 

852
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,000
talked about it. 
Yeah, so again, it's almost like

853
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,280
you guys said too, it's about 
the experience you have. 

854
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,200
I went with all of you guys. 
It was so much fun. 

855
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,560
But no, I thought it was great. 
Like it just looked really neat.

856
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,240
Again, am I going to use my 
points there? 

857
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:52,560
I don't know. 
Probably not. 

858
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,720
But I love that it's there and I
love the passion that people 

859
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,760
have for it, that I think it's 
so right. 

860
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,560
You know, it's so neat to have a
place at Disney that people 

861
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,480
literally have been going for 
decades and you just hear these 

862
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,520
stories and you know, the 
concept of, Oh yeah, you got to 

863
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,480
get golf carts and you get to go
around. 

864
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,000
It's so unlike anything else on 
Disney property. 

865
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,560
I loved how they were inside, 
too. 

866
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,360
They were a lot cooler than I 
thought that they were going to 

867
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,160
be. 
So overall, I thought they were.

868
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,800
I thought it was awesome. 
I didn't like how Lakeshore 

869
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,400
Lodge loomed over it like the 
Death Star, like big. 

870
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,040
But no, I thought it was great. 
Eric, have you got to stay in 

871
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,840
one yet? 
I've not, but I did stay in the 

872
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,920
old one right before and it was 
a we, we added on a day and we 

873
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,400
just managed to get the cabins 
and I would I kind of, I'm not 

874
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,120
an outdoorsy guy at all. 
Like I just don't like earthy 

875
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,080
vibes, stuff like that. 
I'm very much like give me a, a 

876
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,360
city with no grass anywhere. 
I'm completely like progress 

877
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,800
Land would have been my place. 
You know, the original Epcot, I 

878
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,320
would have loved it, but but it 
was really funny though that we 

879
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,720
went down there that one day and
I enjoyed like the bunk bed 

880
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:05,400
aspect of it. 
And I like the, you know, they 

881
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,920
had a little grill and all that.
So I don't know how much newer. 

882
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,360
I imagine they're way more 
updated and they look new and 

883
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,920
feel new with a lot of the 
aspects. 

884
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,840
But I actually really enjoyed. 
We just spent that morning and 

885
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,320
that day just going around the 
wilderness area and going to the

886
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,920
little, the little stores that 
you, when you're in the hustle 

887
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,320
and bustle of your Disney 
vacation, you forget that's over

888
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,960
there and just walk going to the
different shops and seeing all 

889
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,120
the little areas. 
And it's, it's been there since 

890
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,560
the original part. 
You know, it's one of the 

891
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,360
original things. 
And to see that and got to 

892
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,080
experience it and, and they have
different merchandise there. 

893
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,160
They have all like Smokey bear 
stuff and they have the the Coon

894
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,640
skin caps and all that. 
I just kind of really enjoyed it

895
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,080
and I really was surprised by 
how much I like that entire 

896
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,480
area. 
So I would stay at a cabin. 

897
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,040
It's not going to be my top 
choice, but I certainly would 

898
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,160
stay back there. 
And I think it was pretty good 

899
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,320
for the kids. 
You know, a bunk bed that I 

900
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,920
don't know too many of the other
parks or the other resorts that 

901
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,840
have bunk bed situations and the
kids were excited about that. 

902
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,920
Figures. 
Anything to add? 

903
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,320
I'll just, you know, Eric, one 
of the reasons why it hits home 

904
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,400
is because it feels like home. 
Like for us, it, it part of it's

905
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,680
like the, the Wheeling, WV 
nostalgia of, of, of being back 

906
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,240
up there. 
And it reminds us why we, you 

907
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,840
know, we took advantage of 
Ogilby Park when we lived there 

908
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,720
and didn't appreciate it for 
what it was. 

909
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,760
And now we do like going back 
there and we get a cabin there 

910
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,760
now twice a year, we go back and
we get a cabin, we take the dogs

911
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,440
and it's that same experience. 
I equate it similar to old Key 

912
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,640
West in that you are able to 
remove yourself from being at 

913
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,480
Disney World. 
And that's such a weird feeling 

914
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,880
when you're at Disney World. 
But the fun of riding around in 

915
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,200
the morning on a golf cart, 
driving through all these these 

916
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,560
giant pine trees, yelling at 
Jeff because he's driving too 

917
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,000
slow in front of you. 
I mean it. 

918
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,480
It's just, it's a weird like you
feel like you're a kid camping 

919
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,280
again at a like summer camp 
while also saying to yourself, 

920
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,640
in 10 minutes I can be at the 
Magic Kingdom And I I think that

921
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,040
the the glow up. 
We did the old cabin like you 

922
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,320
did, Eric. 
We did the night. 

923
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,240
Before and then we did the new 
cabin the next night. 

924
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,720
So we compared them side by 
side. 

925
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,560
Thought both were still great. 
I thought the old old rustic 

926
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,160
charm of the old ones was still 
awesome. 

927
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Understand why they wanted to 
update it. 

928
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,040
And then the new, The new 
concept just is that perfect 

929
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,120
combination of Disney needs 
camping, needs glamping. 

930
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,640
And so I think they, they 
knocked him out of the park. 

931
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,240
We've always said the only knock
that we've had is fact that we 

932
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,840
have three dogs. 
So we can't bring all three 

933
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,760
there. 
But our good friend David's 

934
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,400
coming to town this weekend. 
He's bringing his dog Lilo. 

935
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,880
They're going to stay there and 
I'm sure probably have a great 

936
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,320
experience just because he can 
be there with his dog. 

937
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,640
So I, I love it. 
There's reasons why I would not 

938
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,600
buy it. 
You know, again, it, it goes 

939
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,400
back to our universal show where
there's economics involved and 

940
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,960
stuff. 
But I, I think it's a home run 

941
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,480
and I think, you know, it's, 
it's, it's still a great 

942
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,760
property and the history is 
still there and. 

943
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,760
And yeah, and it's a different 
kind of option for DVC members. 

944
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,280
Like it just broadens our 
portfolio of what we're able to 

945
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,800
do. 
Fort Wilderness, to me, it's 

946
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,240
like it's own bubble inside the 
bubble, you know what I mean? 

947
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:21,160
So like you've got the Disney 
bubble, but then you've got this

948
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Fort Wilderness bubble where you
can just, you know, you can just

949
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,760
do a resort only trip and you 
can just hang out there and 

950
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,240
drive your golf cart around. 
And if it's the holidays, you 

951
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:33,000
can drive around and look at 
everyone's decorations and, you 

952
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,640
know, inflatables and you can 
go, you know, we went kayaking 

953
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,040
and there's, you know, swimming 
pools and campfires and sing 

954
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,680
alongs and archery and, and we 
love hoopty Doo and I like 

955
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,040
trails in and Crockett's Tavern.
You can see the fireworks if you

956
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,680
want, you know, over from the 
the shore. 

957
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,440
So there's just, it's just a 
cool vibe. 

958
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,920
And then when you're in the 
cabins themselves, like they are

959
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,720
beautiful. 
It is really cool that they're 

960
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,240
dog friendly. 
So a lot of people will get to 

961
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:05,360
experience that taking their 
dogs to Disney. 

962
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,520
A lot of DVC members that, you 
know, otherwise have never been 

963
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,760
able to do that. 
But you feel like, like with all

964
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,920
the windows that are up really 
high and the trees, that you 

965
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,600
feel like you're kind of in the 
trees and in the forest. 

966
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,640
And it's just like a little 
haven, you know, inside the 

967
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,440
forest. 
And it's very, very peaceful and

968
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,240
very quiet. 
And we like, you know, we like 

969
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,320
going for walks and runs. 
And we found some really great 

970
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:33,000
places to walk and run around. 
But yeah, my only downside is 

971
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,600
that, you know, because of the 
annual dues, because of the 

972
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,400
economics that Paul talked 
about, they're not selling well.

973
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,080
And because of that, the 
inventory for DVC members is 

974
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,720
very low because there's not a 
whole lot of points declared for

975
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,480
it yet. 
And I don't know if there ever 

976
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,960
will be. 
You know, they might still, you 

977
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,080
know, maintain a large portion 
for cash. 

978
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,840
So that makes it hard for those 
of us that don't own there to to

979
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,080
get in and actually be able to 
enjoy it. 

980
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:04,200
It's a detriment to the the 
objective of selling DVC because

981
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:08,480
you, you want, you want people, 
you want the members to go and 

982
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,280
experience it and be able to 
save positive things about it. 

983
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,720
But not enough members have been
able to experience it. 

984
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,240
So they don't know really what 
to say about it. 

985
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:20,040
So it would almost be in, in 
their favor to kind of just like

986
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:23,920
even if they, I don't know how 
they could do it, but when they 

987
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,520
declare inventory it, it then 
goes into active DBC inventory 

988
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,360
and they have to pay annual dues
and all of that. 

989
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,760
And until they declare that 
inventory, they can do what 

990
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,920
they're doing now, which is 
basically rent 90% of it via 

991
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,440
cash reservations. 
It would be cool if they could 

992
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,640
just take a month and say like 
here's a bunch of inventory and 

993
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,000
anyone that can book it. 
Because I do think there would 

994
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,880
be a positive element of doing 
that and having people stay in 

995
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,640
these and experience. 
Yeah. 

996
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,200
And it's yeah. 
And doing a tour is one thing, 

997
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,320
but you don't get the full 
feeling, the full experience 

998
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,400
until you've stayed there, you 
know what I mean? 

999
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,160
Instead of just going and like 
walking through when a bunch of 

1000
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,880
other people are walking through
that. 

1001
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,800
Yeah. 
Yeah, and I would just echo kind

1002
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,320
of what you guys said. 
You know, we took Amy's mom and 

1003
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,640
sister were in town last week 
and we took them to Hoop Dee Doo

1004
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,360
and I just, I knew Amy's mom was
going to love it. 

1005
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,800
That's right up her alley. 
That's there's some stuff that 

1006
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,600
are very similar to that in, you
know, Pigeon Forge in Dollywood,

1007
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,280
even back in Utah. 
And she, I don't think she's 

1008
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,040
ever had a better time than we 
went when we went to that show. 

1009
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,160
And I was explaining to her as 
we were kind of waiting for 

1010
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,560
everybody to use the restroom 
and stuff as we were getting 

1011
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,400
ready to go back on the buses 
and I was showing her the model 

1012
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,000
cabin. 
We didn't go inside, obviously, 

1013
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,280
but I'm like, this is one of the
places we can stay with our 

1014
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,840
points. 
So next time you come. 

1015
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,520
And she just thought that was 
the coolest thing. 

1016
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,840
And the camping, they're big 
campers and stuff. 

1017
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,120
So yeah, I actually I like the 
cabins a lot better than I 

1018
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,400
thought I was going to. 
Yeah. 

1019
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,880
Well, Jeff, good news list, but 
we're running out of time, so 

1020
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,440
why don't we bust to you guys 
and let you go? 

1021
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,760
I was going to say good news and
bad news is that you you've 

1022
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,040
gotten some very passionate, 
you've gotten some very 

1023
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,160
passionate answers out of all of
us. 

1024
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,680
We do have time probably for one
more, but I do. 

1025
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,720
Yeah, I know that. 
I know that you rag on me all 

1026
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,240
the time for for never doing a 
Part 2. 

1027
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:14,120
But we will come back and we 
will revisit this and we will do

1028
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,000
a part. 2 How many do you have 
left? 

1029
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,040
17,000,000 Probably I. 
Don't know 20 probably. 

1030
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,640
Oh, then we definitely need to 
do a Part 2. 

1031
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,880
Yeah, I, I was originally going 
to say do you want to do a speed

1032
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,880
round? 
But then I was like. 

1033
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,800
No, I like these. 
I like. 

1034
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,640
Really good answers, SO we'll 
come back around, yeah. 

1035
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,680
We can do one more and one more.
I'm interested to hear Eric's on

1036
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,120
this because he's got kids. 
I have kids, you guys, you know,

1037
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,240
have dog kids and Derek's kids 
are old. 

1038
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:43,480
So I just kind of wanted general
consensus last final on for 

1039
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,800
everybody on the new villains 
show. 

1040
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,800
Love it or leave it. 
Has anybody even seen it Not. 

1041
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,200
Seen it? 
We've not seen it, no. 

1042
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Let's do a different Do you just
listen now listen yes, I, my, my

1043
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,800
family and I all like it. 
So there you go. 

1044
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,280
You guys go see it and then come
back around and and and we can 

1045
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,000
argue. 
It's sad if we haven't seen it, 

1046
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,480
hey, But I did finally, Jeff, I 
went and saw Country Bears last 

1047
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,920
last weekend for the first time 
since they've changed it so. 

1048
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,600
Very cool. 
Love it but it's broke already. 

1049
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,040
It was broke the the ceiling. 
The ceiling person didn't calm 

1050
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,760
down. 
And and and unfortunately, as 

1051
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,480
much as it is a is a pretty 
cool, I don't want to go back 

1052
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,440
and do this. 
I'm going to give credit to 

1053
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:33,000
Derek because country bears is 
the perfect example of tough to 

1054
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,120
be a bug actually is because you
it got to glow up and it got 

1055
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,840
like this really big bump for a 
small moment. 

1056
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:43,920
But like you, there was no one 
in the theater with us. 

1057
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,320
Like it was empty. 
OK. 

1058
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,240
It was like it was after the 
fireworks though, so. 

1059
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,320
I, I think you could go there, 
you know, at 2:00 in the 

1060
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,840
afternoon and probably say the 
same things. 

1061
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,680
We when my sister was here, we 
went. 

1062
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,280
It was on a Wednesday in the 
afternoon and we had to wait for

1063
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,000
a full show. 
Oh yeah, going to the. 

1064
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Next show, maybe I'm wrong. 
So OK Derek, you're you're still

1065
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:05,760
wrong. 
Sorry. 

1066
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,320
Gave you a moment, almost. 
But anyway, well, that was fun. 

1067
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,920
Come on, Jeff, one more one. 
More. 

1068
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,000
OK, one more different one. 
Love it or leave it. 

1069
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,360
No show. 
Louie Bluey coming to the 

1070
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,800
Disney. 
Park the question is that oh. 

1071
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,160
That's a weird. 
Question love it or leave it? 

1072
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,600
The test track refurb. 
No, no, I want to go back to 

1073
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,960
Bluey. 
Is that? 

1074
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,840
Yeah. 
I can't believe you're asking 

1075
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,320
the question, but let's go for 
it. 

1076
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:41,120
Love it or leave it, Louie 
coming to the Disney Parks 321. 

1077
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:50,120
I'm torn I just don't care my my
mom loves bluey I catch her 

1078
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,440
watching it when she comes here 
sometimes. 

1079
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,400
But she also has a real life 
Bluey the cattle dog, but I've 

1080
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,560
never gotten into it. 
But I know a lot of people like 

1081
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,400
it so. 
I want to know why Eric hates 

1082
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,200
it. 
Yeah. 

1083
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,600
Yeah, let's go with Eric first 
because we might not go back on 

1084
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,800
the show. 
Let's see what happens. 

1085
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,080
I don't dislike Bluey. 
I think where they're doing it 

1086
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,800
is is is stupid. 
Yes, it is. 

1087
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,120
It is Playing Rafiki is not the 
place you put it. 

1088
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,840
You do you. 
There's a train that doesn't 

1089
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,360
come frequently enough. 
There's not enough room for all 

1090
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,120
the strollers. 
You're you have to trek yourself

1091
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,200
back to this little area, which 
you don't have a stroller. 

1092
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,400
So who are going to see this? 
You're going to have a bunch of 

1093
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,880
parents having to carry these 
kids and they're all gonna be 

1094
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,160
pooping out and it's gonna cause
of just a giant ruckus. 

1095
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,720
And I just think that we know 
it's popular. 

1096
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:39,840
You already saw it in 
Disneyland. 

1097
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,960
It's like they had to create it.
They had to get rid of the meet 

1098
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,680
and greet because the lions were
so big at Disneyland. 

1099
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,600
It's gonna be huge success. 
I think Bluey is all worth it. 

1100
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,760
I just think what are you doing 
like that? 

1101
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,720
Should it should not be there. 
You should have figured 

1102
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:52,920
something else out. 
You should. 

1103
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,600
And I know they don't own the 
IP. 

1104
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,320
It's like a licensing deal and 
stuff like that. 

1105
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,840
But they should like I would 
love to know, do they have the 

1106
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,880
same situation as they have at 
over in Epcot when you meet on 

1107
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,960
an Elsa, you know, or the 
situation with Mickey at Town 

1108
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,280
Square? 
Are there going to be 

1109
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,720
opportunities for us to really 
meet them quickly? 

1110
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,640
If you guys get what I'm saying,
which I have kids, so I'm very 

1111
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,600
cautious on how I talk about 
friends of and I don't think 

1112
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,840
they're going to have that 
situation. 

1113
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,240
So I think there's going to be 
ridiculous lines, lots of kids 

1114
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,840
miserable and tired. 
So that is my issues with this 

1115
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,120
whole process is I think that 
they're shoehorning it in and it

1116
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,120
sounds great until logistically 
it's not a nightmare. 

1117
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,560
So sorry, that's a vote to no to
where they put him. 

1118
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,280
Plus the bluey. 
I like bluey. 

1119
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,040
It's one of the best kids shows 
that you can watch as an adult. 

1120
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,320
I. 
Will, I will 100% agree with 

1121
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,640
you. 
Like everything you said is spot

1122
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,760
on. 
Scott Gustin on X actually wrote

1123
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,680
very well. 
It ceases to amaze me how Disney

1124
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,400
continues to underestimate the 
impact Bluey will have on the 

1125
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,680
theme parks. 
You know that that exact quote 

1126
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:05,000
almost is what he said on X when
everything out at Disneyland 

1127
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,720
happened that Eric just 
summarized, which is that you 

1128
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,640
you said it great. 
Even the show in Disneyland 

1129
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:17,640
Super, you know, Ranky Tink, you
know, shoehorn together like you

1130
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,280
go from Mickey's magical map to 
that. 

1131
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,760
Like, no, you didn't. 
You didn't you put like $12.00 

1132
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,160
and a trombone together and and 
that's exactly what you created 

1133
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,840
out in Disneyland. 
And that's what seems to be what

1134
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,960
they're going, what seems to be 
see what they injected under the

1135
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,600
cruise ships and it seems to be 
what they're going to put into 

1136
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,840
animal Kingdom. 
And it's like this is this is 

1137
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,840
the problem with several things 
that we've talked about, which 

1138
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,160
is the fact that go all in, this
is going to be successful. 

1139
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,840
Don't don't say we're going to 
give it a try. 

1140
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,320
And then if it's successful and 
shows return on investment, then

1141
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,280
we'll invest the money and blah,
blah, you know, come on, just. 

1142
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:03,000
Believe in yourself. 
We listened to our guests and 

1143
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,800
our guest said we like Bluey. 
Great, we'll write that down. 

1144
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,360
That's perfect. 
Well, and I and I probably 

1145
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,360
should have specified in the 
question about what we were 

1146
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,680
talking about because IA 100% 
agree with Eric. 

1147
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,680
It was such an afterthought as 
as to where they put it. 

1148
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,440
It deserves its own. 
It should replace the Beauty and

1149
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,800
the Beast show at Hollywood 
studios and have like a real 

1150
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,680
bluey thought out with a script 
like something something 

1151
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,360
substantial. 
I agree, having said that my 

1152
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,080
grandkids are going to go nuts 
when they get to go out on the 

1153
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,040
train and meet him and them so I
don't know I I'm a fan of it. 

1154
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,760
Like, not that. 
Oh my. 

1155
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,360
My mom would love to meet him 
but I feel like she'd pass out 

1156
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,840
in the line because she almost 
did. 

1157
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,680
When I go I'm that way to Pooh 
for like like. 

1158
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,240
We're standing like standing in 
the heat 15 minutes. 

1159
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,560
And it was a bit it was it was 
almost too much not to age us 

1160
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,760
here to end this. 
But is is like Bluey, like the, 

1161
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,000
I don't know if it's a direct 
comparison, but I feel like he's

1162
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,920
like the Fred Rogers of like the
new generation where it's like, 

1163
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,560
I feel like Bluey. 
That's way too old. 

1164
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,960
You're going way too far back. 
OK, Sorry, but I feel like he's 

1165
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:19,880
able to inject into shows 
elements that are very touching 

1166
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,680
emotionally the way that Mister 
Rogers used to be able. 

1167
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:24,920
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1168
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,280
Mr. Rogers used to be able to 
approach those tough topics in a

1169
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,880
unique way. 
And like, I know our friends 

1170
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,920
Mandy and and them, they've 
moved and there was a show on 

1171
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,000
moving and it was, you know, it 
was very emotional. 

1172
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,160
So I don't know. 
Does it? 

1173
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,240
Yes. 
I, I think I think you are 

1174
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,760
right. 
I am also going to save you a 

1175
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,560
lot of hassle right now because 
you're going to get beat up. 

1176
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,720
Louie is a girl and you're going
to get beat up online because 

1177
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,960
we've we've made that mistake on
podcast before and they come at 

1178
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,440
you. 
The Bluey clan comes at you 

1179
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,120
hard. 
So Paul didn't Paul didn't say 

1180
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:01,600
that. 
He said she is no, no, she I 

1181
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,520
agree with you. 
I think Bluey is in that whole 

1182
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,720
scenario is very much like 
they're tackling tough topics 

1183
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,400
and getting. 
Children and or adults to to 

1184
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,920
hear messages come across and 
it's not too preachy and it's 

1185
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,320
done just right. 
And it's and you, you can laugh 

1186
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,480
as an adult to watch it. 
And that's why I like listen, I 

1187
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,760
got to watch a lot of shows and 
some I cannot tolerate. 

1188
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,520
And Bluey is one that's like, I 
can watch this. 

1189
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,000
Yeah, there. 
Did you know why? 

1190
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,120
Did you know why Bluey was a 
girl? 

1191
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:29,880
Huh. 
Well, yeah. 

1192
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,440
Well, what? 
I'm trying. 

1193
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,640
Yeah, of course I did. 
Because what I'm trying to say 

1194
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,240
is the only right answer for 
this question. 

1195
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,800
The only right answer for this 
question is to have her take 

1196
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,960
over the horrible Zootopia show 
inside the Tree of Life. 

1197
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:52,440
That's what she needs to do. 
I don't think he really. 

1198
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,240
I think that's suffice. 
I please bluey fans, don't come 

1199
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,840
at the comment section hard. 
That's that's. 

1200
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,520
No come at the comment. 
You know, or Derek reads every 

1201
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,400
one of them. 
You know how it goes there. 

1202
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,920
Come at the comment section. 
That'll just boost this video 

1203
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,920
even further. 
Come viral, Bluey's going to 

1204
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,600
come to you guys there bluey's 
going to be in the next episode.

1205
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,320
I'm going to make sure that 
Grayson snips this whole segment

1206
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,680
of the show and puts it up as 
shorts so that Bluey. 

1207
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,120
I just don't know it well and 
sorry Bluey, I I know people 

1208
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,360
love it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1209
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,560
I, I, I really haven't watched 
it enough. 

1210
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:29,800
So I I apologize to her. 
Well, you have homework. 

1211
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,200
They're like 6 minutes of 
episodes. 

1212
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,880
You can blitz through 5 or 6. 
I'll just wait till Amy's mom 

1213
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,120
comes to town next time and it's
on for like 10. 10 is accurate. 

1214
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,040
That is true. 
This is fun, Jeff. 

1215
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,760
I feel like every topic like 
like we were all very passionate

1216
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,600
about like some of these 
conversations. 

1217
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,840
So we'll bust the paddles out 
again here in the near future 

1218
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,360
and get through the other 
questions on your list. 

1219
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,000
As always, make sure in the 
comments of this video, you let 

1220
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,120
me know how terrible I am for 
misrepresenting Bluey, but also 

1221
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,440
you let let us know the answers 
to the questions if you were 

1222
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,160
going to be asked them. 
And head over to 

1223
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,800
forums.dvcfan.com where we'll 
chat even more about these 

1224
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,560
answers because I think like as 
much as we all stopped talking, 

1225
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,040
we could have kept talking about
all of these different topics. 

1226
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,120
So super fun. 
Thanks, Jeff. 

1227
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,720
Thanks Eric again for joining 
us, and we will see you all next

1228
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,120
Monday. 
I love you, Bluey. 

1229
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,560
My hair kind of looks like ramen
noodles today.