1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,920 In case you didn't catch the show 2 weeks ago, I just want to 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,800 personally say to both Jeff and Derek that I am sorry, but you 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:14,200 were not selected as the next person to run Disney's Parks and 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,240 Resorts despite your Dapper Dan demeanor. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,720 They put a lot of effort in SO. They did. 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,040 And you, you called Jeff a funeral. 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,560 My. Gosh, there was a comment I wish 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,200 I could remember the comment there was. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,640 Oh. I remember the comment, I know 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,040 exactly which one you're talking about. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,200 What was? It what was it? 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,880 Less like Aceo and more like he's ready for his court date. 13 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:46,560 So whoever said that? Home run. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,960 It was great. Home run. 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,240 Hey everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of the DBC 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,040 Show. I'm your host, Paul Krieger, 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,200 joined as always by my lovely wife Amy. 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Hello. We've got senior Sales Executive 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,800 for the DBC resale market, Derek de Boer. 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,920 Hey now, happy March everybody. And the Honorable Jeff Haslam. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,000 Hey everybody. No, no court dates in his 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,680 future, ladies and gentlemen, just to just to clear the air. 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:28,040 So, but well, hey, happy Monday and we're all back together 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,920 again. I feel like you guys get to 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,600 watch, if you, if you ever watch all three of these shows 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,480 back-to-back to back, you get to watch like the full evolution of 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,440 these. So you should definitely watch 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,560 them weekly because that does the world of good for us. 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,200 But also, just, yeah, find, find 3 episodes and watch them 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,680 back-to-back to back and watch the soul gradually get sucked 31 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,720 from us and the hunger pains gradually grow because that's 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,680 exactly what happened this week. We are talking about the best 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,400 and worst changes to Disney parks over the years. 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,880 And I think it's fitting given how we, we kind of kicked off 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,920 the show here because breaking news as of a day or so ago, as 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:13,280 of recording this, but the new, the new leadership for parks and 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,520 resorts was announced. And we, we, we were pretty spot 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,520 on in some of our picks, I'm pretty sure. 39 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:25,200 So Thomas Maslam will succeed Josh tomorrow as chairman of 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Disney Experiences. Maslam actually used to run 41 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:32,000 signature experiences, which included Disney Vacation Club, 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,280 Disney Cruise Line, and then as of recently he was overseeing 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,400 the Disneyland Resort. So kind of we had talked a 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,200 little bit about that on that show. 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,800 And Jill Estorino will be the incoming president of Disneyland 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Resort. And Jill actually we had brought 47 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,040 up in the show who was overseeing international parks 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,200 previously. So the both of them moving, 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,840 moving up the ranks in terms of all of these changes now that 50 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,640 Josh tomorrow is going to be the next CEO of the Walt Disney 51 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:07,200 Company. I feel like they have they take 52 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,680 the similar path right? Like it goes through Disneyland 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,040 or international, then Disneyland, then Disney World. 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,880 It's definitely, I, I definitely feel like there's, you know, 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,160 the, the, the emphasis is that how many, how many different 56 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,320 divisions have you touched and what success have you had in 57 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,120 each division? So I mean Maslin was definitely 58 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,920 I think the the best selection of the available opportunities 59 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:32,240 there. Yeah, I even, I even think, 60 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Paul, I think it'd be interesting for our amazing 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,840 audience to do some research 'cause I'd be curious, did 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Michael Eisner, was he the last one that literally ever came 63 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,800 from outside the Walt Disney Company to become CEO, 'cause it 64 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,680 always seems like they've always come from within. 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,600 But I believe Michael Eisner came from Paramount Pictures to 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,000 immediately becoming the CEO of Disney. 67 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 So I'm curious, is that the only person that's ever done that? 68 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Do your deep dive research and send it to Derek and he'll do, 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,560 he'll do an entire report on it and we'll have an entire episode 70 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,440 of this show devoted to the history. 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,720 He'll read it with his the. History of the walk. 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,400 What are the glasses? Carol? 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Carol. With Channing I I also want to 74 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,920 clarify for those viewers that might be listening and not 75 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,920 watching or watching and not listening that it's Thomas 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,840 Maslam, not Haslam much to my that's my. 77 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,600 So. No, no relation, no distant 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,480 relative. Cousin. 79 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,560 Third cousin. Twice removed. 80 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,680 I did. I did. 81 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Just recently learned that I am the, I don't know, 600th direct 82 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,040 descendant of King George the third. 83 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,520 So I'm going to go over and knock on the castle door and say 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,080 where's my inheritance? Well, he was the crazy one right 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,160 though? I think so. 86 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,200 Yeah. We just we. 87 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,120 Just watched Queen Charlotte. We just watched Queen Charlotte. 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,960 Yeah. And I I don't know if I was 89 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,080 extra emotional yesterday but I cried for like 5 minutes after 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,680 it was over. And while she was crying, I 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,080 said, because this is how my brain works. 92 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,560 I was like, wait, the crazy King George is the same King George 93 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,160 that is actually portrayed in Hamilton. 94 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,120 So there you have it. And that makes Hamilton make a 95 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,200 little bit more sense in my head because of how he's portrayed. 96 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:17,560 He just didn't have good options back then for mental health. 97 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,920 It feels so sad about it. It was. 98 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,400 It was such a good show. If you're a Bridgeton fan and 99 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,680 you haven't watched Queen Charlotte, that was one of the 100 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,240 best. Nope, what I'm I'm too immersed 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,720 because they're doing Bachelor mansion makeover so that is 102 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,440 currently on HGTV. He's. 103 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Not even lying. I'm not lying, not sensational. 104 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,200 And I am in myself because by the time this goes up, as Paul 105 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,920 and Amy will have known, the Oscars will have come and gone, 106 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,240 which is my Super Bowl. And I am fully deep in trying to 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,840 get the nominations watched before Sunday. 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,320 So. What's the movie that we tried 109 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,360 to watch? The other ham net. 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,120 Oh yeah, that one of the the nominations couldn't speak like 111 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,080 the first. Yep, yes. 112 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Didn't make it through the 1st 15. 113 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Years struggled and I, I, I had a whole Shakespeare class. 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,800 So like, I feel like in college I just couldn't. 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,240 I don't know. So you missed out because that 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,280 was probably one of the most heart wrenching stories I have 117 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:14,640 ever seen in my life. Oh, I don't like heart wrenching 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,720 anyway so. She cried enough over Queen 119 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Charlotte and King George. She's a shoe in for best Actress 120 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,760 for sure. Oh, OK. 121 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Now I now I have. Completely off the rails. 122 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:27,560 Now I have a leg up on my pics for Sunday. 123 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,600 There you go. Well, I thought this was a 124 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,360 relevant topic this week given the fresh news of Thomas Maslum 125 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,640 being selected and because I think that, you know, you do 126 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,680 some deep diving and I couldn't find the tweet that I had 127 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,560 actually looked at earlier today. 128 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,520 But given this decision, there are some decisions under 129 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,040 Maslin's leadership, even at Disneyland most recently that 130 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,800 have occurred that are kind of questionable. 131 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,720 You know, the the elimination of the early magic hours for resort 132 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,200 guests that was that occurred actually while he was in charge 133 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,840 of Disneyland. 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Yep, unlocked magic.com DVC fan. 162 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,159 I know Paul already said it, but just want to emphasize that it 163 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:45,360 just helps them see where they're coming from for sure. 164 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,960 So are we starting off with the best or the worst? 165 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,200 What would you like to start off? 166 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,880 With I like to just leave the positivity at the end, like end 167 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,760 on a good note. Let's go full into the dumpster 168 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,720 fire then to kick things off, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna lead it 169 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,200 off with you. Oh, I gotta get my list out. 170 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,600 Oh my goodness. Please hold interlude music Paul 171 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,760 made. It Paul made it very clear when 172 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,640 he sent out these topics, which I agree with wholeheartedly, is 173 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,920 that I, I think the purpose of this show is not just to 174 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,360 complain and it's not just to say, well, it used to be so much 175 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,760 better. It used to be so much better. 176 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,560 It used to be so much better. Because originally it is easy to 177 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:30,360 kind of do that, to go over the stuff that maybe you miss. 178 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:32,960 But I was surprised when I started to get on like that 179 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,600 positive role and I was talking to Annie about it and I was 180 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,360 talking to my kids about it. There was quite a bit. 181 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,760 So I think even though we're starting off in the, you know, 182 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,320 seventh level of help, we're going to work our way. 183 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,000 Yeah, my positive list is longer for sure. 184 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,080 Jeff's got the kid. I'm ready. 185 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,520 He's ready. Just going to have to pass it 186 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,960 around the room I think. So, so one of the the first ones 187 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,400 that I thought of. So we're just talking about the 188 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,280 parks specifically related to the parks, parks and resorts. 189 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,560 So I, I guess I call this like entertainment, streetscape, 190 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:10,600 those sorts of things. So missing things like what top 191 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,880 of mind, the Hollywood studios, the actors that would go around, 192 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:17,400 you know, Hollywood studios and entertain people. 193 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,160 So there's a lot of little things like that that are are 194 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,000 gone from the parks. And so that's one of my big 195 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,800 ones. You had citizens of Hollywood. 196 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,160 Citizens of Hollywood, that's what they. 197 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,840 You know, don't get, don't get this community started on the 198 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,520 the orchestra. Well, yeah, that's I, I didn't 199 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,640 say that one because it was Parks, but still, that's a good 200 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,280 one too. Yeah, I mean parks and resorts 201 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,680 it all, it all falls into the same. 202 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,000 And the dog? A Hilton Head. 203 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,400 That was that was ever. Going into the resort. 204 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,480 That was a huge to do a couple years ago. 205 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,840 Man, I I never expected to write so many blogs about a dog in 206 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,280 this community. And yet I think I wrote at least 207 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,600 four or five. Yeah, we we even almost had the 208 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,400 gentleman on that owned the dog at one point. 209 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,200 Old blue. Yeah, blue. 210 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,440 Yeah, Big Blue. Old Blue. 211 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,320 No, I don't think either of those are correct. 212 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaking of the pure stuff, like even at Epcot, they used to have 213 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,560 the guy in France that would balance on the chairs. 214 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:18,040 I mean, they do have the guy in Italy still that that interacts 215 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,520 with the kids and and you know, does comedy and stuff like that. 216 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,480 But it was just, it was kind of everywhere and now it's almost 217 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,240 nowhere, which is, it really is a shame because it does add to 218 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,480 the experience. Yep, it does. 219 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:33,920 Yeah, because because so many of those times of those involve 220 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,560 like, hey, where'd that come from? 221 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:37,400 Or what's all that noise over there? 222 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,960 And it's not in your app and it's not on the program guide or 223 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,800 it's all this, you know, you could be walking around the 224 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,120 studios and you're like, what's blood sweat and shears? 225 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,480 And it's just like Rock Band that's playing rock songs like 226 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,960 in the middle of the studios back there on Hollywood St. 227 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,560 So yeah, I that's a great, great one, Amy. 228 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:56,560 We're actually. Friends with one of the singers 229 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:59,520 from that group really is. That right, Yeah, you. 230 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,880 Met him, he was at my birthday. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. 231 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,440 In Yeah. Yep. 232 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Wow, see I gave him a shameless plugin, I didn't even know it. 233 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,080 Another one that I thought of in terms of just like street 234 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,680 misphere and everything was the Muppet Lab mobile that used to 235 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,960 go around. That was just so cool because 236 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,960 you'd just be mobile. Lab you'd just like be. 237 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,520 Walking around the corner and this thing just like kind of 238 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,240 shoot out and it was just like none of the gimmicks, no matter 239 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,720 how many times you'd seen it, none, none of the gimmicks ever 240 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,840 got old. Like it was still hilarious 241 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,880 every every time. And they were just small little 242 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,640 things that added. It was just really. 243 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,280 Cool too. Like it was just a really cool 244 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,360 piece of technology that moved and like, interacted and yeah, 245 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:47,840 so. Need more Muppets in the parks, 246 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,200 especially Sweetums because Amy will be scared to death. 247 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,080 Jeff, what is our next well? I'll hit mine in a second, but 248 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,120 now you've just sparked another one with the streamosphere 249 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,880 thing. What happened to the parade at 250 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Hollywood studios? Do you remember the something 251 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,200 stars and motor cars? And they had the cars drive 252 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,480 through with each one theme to whoever was driving monsters. 253 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,440 He yes. I do remember that there was 254 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,640 Incredibles, yeah. I think there was a Star Wars 255 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,520 one. I, I loved it. 256 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,000 I don't know or there there. Even used to be like the March 257 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,800 of the 1st Order or something, just where stormtroopers would 258 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,640 just occasionally March down the street. 259 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,360 Yeah. I feel like that. 260 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,200 Maybe went away with Star Wars Galaxy's Edge, but we'll come 261 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,720 back to that thought in a couple minutes. 262 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,200 But. Yeah. 263 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,360 The thing that I had that has kind of gone away that I really, 264 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,200 and I've talked about this before, but it's such a miss in 265 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,480 my opinion, is resort delivery for the packages that you 266 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,640 purchased whilst in the park. You know, nobody wants to try 267 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:54,640 and climb on Space Mountain or Tower of Terror with a giant 268 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,640 pillow pet or a light Saber. You know what I mean? 269 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Like, I know they'll hold it at the front of the park. 270 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,280 At least I think they do that. I, I don't know, but just 271 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,360 spending the last few weeks in the parks with my family, it's 272 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,640 really annoying that you can't just have those shipped back to 273 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,080 your universal still does it. You know, it's just, it's such 274 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,480 an easy thing to, to do that. Like I even finally got into 275 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,960 beacon barrel last week, which I hadn't been able to get into 276 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,320 until recently. And I got the pirate mug that 277 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,080 I've been wanting the skull mug and it was breakable and I was 278 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,920 just terrified that, you know, 7 dwarves mine trainer space 279 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,320 mountain was going to get a busted. 280 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,680 And it would just be so nice to be able to just say, you know 281 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,280 what, send that back to my room and I will pick it up when I get 282 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,240 there. Yep. 283 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,640 Yeah. And I, it's a win because people 284 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,920 will buy more, more things, Yeah, when they can. 285 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,400 You know what I mean, 'cause I I'll not buy things so I don't 286 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,200 have to carry them around. Yeah. 287 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,800 So, yeah. One of those. 288 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,640 Small line item budget cuts, I feel like someone go through and 289 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,720 and compile how many of these things died during the pandemic 290 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,360 that we're talking about today because. 291 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Oh yeah, a lot of them just never came back after that. 292 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,240 There's so. Many I will. 293 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,680 I'll give us. And you know what I'm going to 294 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,680 say, which is, hey, you know what, guys? 295 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,800 We listen to our guests, and our guests told us they wanted to 296 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,640 walk around the park with all their expensive breakable 297 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,200 packages their whole entire trip. 298 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Yeah. It's especially comical at Epcot 299 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,040 during the the Festival of the Arts when you see everyone 300 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,600 walking around with the giant paintings that they just bought 301 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,920 in these giant boxes boxes. And they put this like flimsy 302 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,120 little like tape on duct tape strap that's like, Oh yeah, you 303 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,240 can backpack it with this. And I'm like, I'm not 304 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,000 backpacking this piece of art that I just spent, you know, 305 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,000 half of my life savings on through the parks. 306 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,080 Wait, let me take it on test track with me. 307 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,000 Why not? I'm not going to approach the 308 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,000 next one from the angle that most people probably would, 309 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,520 which is cost because that is definitely an argument for it. 310 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:58,720 But something that I always go back to is related to what used 311 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,680 to be Genie Plus, what is now Lightning Lane, what you could 312 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,640 historically call Fast Pass. But Fast Pass was a little bit 313 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,120 different. But Genie Plus and Lightning 314 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,040 Lane specifically has have changed the name of the game in 315 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,640 which you have to be in your phone 90% of the day in the 316 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,120 Disney parks. And I always specifically go 317 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,680 back to our first trip to Disneyland in which it was our 318 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,240 first time experiencing Max Pass, which I did not have 319 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,840 complaints about Max Pass. We understand technology very 320 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,760 well. We use it very well. 321 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,040 But we we're sitting on the curb waiting for the parade to come 322 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,040 through. Poor family. 323 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,360 And there was. An elderly couple next to us 324 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,880 that we got to talking to, it was their first time at 325 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,040 Disneyland. They were going through the 326 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,200 parks and they explained that, Oh yeah, we, we bought this Max 327 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,600 Pass, but we can't figure out what to do with it. 328 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:54,680 And I, I do wonder today how many people are in that boat, 329 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,080 How many people end up buying this? 330 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,000 You know they rode like 1. Thing all day yeah and they. 331 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,839 And they paid this up up charge for this extra product. 332 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,720 And to that I would just we take care of you. 333 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,560 We send either. Annie. 334 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,640 Annie or. Amy are in the parks with you at 335 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,319 all times, so you're taking care of. 336 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,520 But at the end of the day, there just needs to be more education 337 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,400 on this. And I know that there are 338 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,040 resources out there on YouTube and stuff like that, but I would 339 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,520 encourage Disney to provide their own resources on this 340 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,920 because, you know, creators, content creators get a lot of 341 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,160 views for this content because it's very valuable. 342 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,760 The same I have historically said about the Disney Vacation 343 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,160 Club product. It's about education and it's 344 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,880 about educating your guests. And if you do want these people 345 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,320 to want to buy it again, or, you know, if I'm this couple and I'm 346 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,120 leaving the parks at the end of that Disneyland day, I'm not 347 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:56,680 encouraged to come back. I have a sour taste for the 348 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,080 entire experience because I spent this extra money and what 349 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,240 did I get for it? Nothing. 350 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,360 So the odds of me coming back and spending my money again or 351 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:05,760 buying this product again, I feel like are less. 352 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,000 You want that to be a completely positive experience for those 353 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,040 people you. Couldn't have said that better 354 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,120 because I texted our group chat over the weekend because my 355 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:17,000 sister was just here. It was her first time at Disney 356 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,800 World and it's the first time since moving here three years 357 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,080 ago that I bought Lightning lanes. 358 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,160 I've occasionally bought like a guardians one off, you know, 359 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,840 individual lightning lane. But we bought it for the day at 360 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,720 every single park cause mostly for research purposes. 361 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,240 But she really wanted to get her money's worth. 362 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,640 And I'm like, OK, let's do it, let's figure it out. 363 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,400 But because we weren't staying on property, you know, we only 364 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,160 get access three days before as opposed to seven days like like 365 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,120 the elite get to when they stay on property. 366 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,360 But I think my exact text was this was the first time we paid 367 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:56,640 for lightning lanes. This is far too stressful and I 368 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,760 hate all of it. I feel like it's consumed my 369 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,000 whole day. Thank you for coming to my Jeff 370 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,920 talk. Like no joke, it was. 371 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,200 And you know, I asked the group and one of our our moderators 372 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,760 jumped in. It's like, well, what you got to 373 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 do is you got to buy get a throwaway pass for like early in 374 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,200 the morning. So then you know, then you can 375 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,640 cancel it when you get in there. So you know, you get one for 376 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,960 like this. The Epcot shorts show at the 377 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,040 Imagination Pavilion and then as soon as you walk in the park, 378 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,840 you drop it. And I'm like, no, that is way 379 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,760 too complicated for people to enjoy the day. 380 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,760 And I seriously was. My screen time on my phone was 381 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,920 triple what it normally was because I'm constantly dialed 382 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,320 in. Oh, I got to get the next one. 383 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,480 I got to get the next one. I got to get the next one. 384 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,160 And I don't know, I just it, it drove me insane. 385 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,120 I would have rather gone back to the old days where I had to 386 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:50,160 truck my happy butt across the park, get a paper one for me and 387 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,280 all my crew because it evens the field for everybody. 388 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Like I don't know as as a local I will never buy it again. 389 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,160 I just won't. It's just not because by the 390 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,040 time your your, your time rolls around and it's 3 days out. 391 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,200 Your lightning lanes are all for 4/5 6:00 PM at night and they're 392 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,240 all on top of each other and it's overlapping dinner and then 393 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,440 you got a rush to get to fireworks or fantasmic. 394 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Like they will not get my money every I. 395 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,320 I, I did it one time since we've lived in Florida with my mom and 396 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,240 I found it really confusing even, you know, I mean, for me. 397 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,720 And it was like, OK, I have these two, when can I make my 398 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,120 next one? And does this one have to happen 399 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:30,080 first or does that one have to happen first or you know what I 400 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,360 mean? Like it was just super 401 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:32,480 confusing. Do you remember when you? 402 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,720 Took like SAT or ACT tests and there was like that long written 403 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,080 out like Jeff has a reservation at Art of Animation that checks 404 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,520 in in four days. Jeff, Eric and Jeff leaves. 405 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,000 Space mountain at the same time going opposite direction. 406 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,520 Get them. I know, dude, like seriously. 407 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,640 And I know there's gonna be people in the comments that come 408 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,040 for us that have it figured out, that have their spreadsheets 409 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,360 that say you guys are doing it wrong, This is how you have to 410 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,680 do it. I'm sorry. 411 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,320 It shouldn't be that complicated. 412 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:06,800 I can't imagine my mom or, you know, Jackie Amy's mom or Derek 413 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,880 on his own having to do this by themselves without somebody's 414 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,200 help. It is insanity. 415 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,800 It's absolute crap that that's and and they're giving to the 416 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,280 guests. And it's so funny you said that, 417 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,880 Jeff, because we're talking about going to Epcot on Friday, 418 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,400 which is in a couple days from now. 419 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,400 And we're like, oh, we think Owen might be able to come with 420 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,560 us. And hey, you know, we want to 421 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,520 make sure they do rides. And we're like, do we just buy 422 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,480 the one guardians? Well, what day can you buy it? 423 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,240 Because we're not, we don't have a resort, but hey, maybe we 424 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,520 should get that genie thing or the lightning thing and we go on 425 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,920 and we're looking at it. Well, no, you have to then get 426 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,080 it only a couple days. So if you don't have a resort 427 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,520 reservation and then you can pick a few things. 428 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,360 And what time are those saying I bailed out after like 18 429 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:51,640 seconds. I was like, yeah, for. 430 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,880 Sure, we're not doing. It just by Guardians for 431 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,040 whatever, $85 a person. I don't care. 432 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,760 Just for the kids. That's it. 433 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,720 I'm not going to spend all day on the phone. 434 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,000 I'm not going to be. Yeah, like you said, yeah, take 435 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,120 this one. And then when you pass the third 436 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,600 garbage can on your right, that's when the Wi-Fi drops and 437 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,640 then you can definitely pick another one. 438 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,360 If nobody doing that, nobody's doing that, yeah. 439 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,840 And, and this is, you know, I, I hate to say this, but this is, 440 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:23,040 you know, Disney is probably slightly happy that this is 441 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,680 happening because the alternative that they've now 442 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,320 built for it is the Lightning Lane Premier Pass. 443 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,080 My uncle was in town for a work conference and he messaged me he 444 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,160 had to buy a ticket to Hollywood Studios. 445 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,440 And he says, my boss says I need Lightning Lane Premier Pass. 446 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,760 And I did a double check. Like at that moment, like I do 447 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,600 it like I'm like, Are you sure? He said Premier Pass? 448 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,680 Because I need you to understand the cost of this thing. 449 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,200 But you get reports like we've seen over the past couple weeks, 450 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Premier Pass is selling out left and right because people spend. 451 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Especially at Magic Kingdom, which is the most expensive one. 452 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,240 Yep. People will spend that extra 453 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,840 money so they just don't have to deal with this stuff. 454 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,400 But yeah, how long does that last? 455 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,920 Is that sustainable? I I don't know, but we spent way 456 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,000 too. If you want a fun fact, Magic 457 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,480 Kingdom is sold out for the entire next week because I'm 458 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,680 checking right now because I was looking at prices. 459 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,080 You can't get it until March the 18th. 460 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,200 And what's the? Price that day. 461 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,200 It is Nope, March the 20th. Sorry, keeps changing for Magic 462 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Kingdom $449 per person. Oh my God. 463 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,240 Doesn't include. Your park ticket. 464 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Correct SO. And. 465 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,880 It doesn't even include every ride like it includes the 466 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,400 lightning lane lines, but like if you wanted to ride, I don't 467 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,520 know, or go see the country bears, you still got to wait for 468 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,080 the next show. You don't get like a special 469 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,720 preview you. Know what I mean Like. 470 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,360 It's it's just the ones that Lightning Lane normally normally 471 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,640 takes care of. He's like, what? 472 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,400 Derek's. Out Derek's out just because of 473 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,680 what you said about country bears. 474 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,920 He was buying it until you said that, but that that I just. 475 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,360 Love that, that there's someone like, I think we're going to buy 476 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,080 that Lightning Lane Premier thing that includes that bear 477 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,560 show, right? No, forget it. 478 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,720 Not someone with Amy Templeton, by the way. 479 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,680 I know. She would. 480 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800 She would we have not seen. It yet we still need to go. 481 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,800 I saw it on Jeff's video, it was great. 482 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,600 Well. Derek hasn't seen it yet either. 483 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,480 So and our never have we ever when we go to Magic Kingdom. 484 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,680 You guys should come to dinner. Let's do it. 485 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,520 I I still need to go to Beacon Barrel, so I'm in. 486 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,240 Just tell me what day you're going to go. 487 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,920 Me too. Yeah. 488 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,240 You have. Been a beacon barrel. 489 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,520 Oh, that, that could be a really good never have I ever. 490 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:41,920 Yep. What? 491 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,480 Else have we not done at Magic Kingdom? 492 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,680 I like that. Look at the look at the glass. 493 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Yes. Oh, that's. 494 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,200 Beautiful. That's nice. 495 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,000 While we're talking about Beacon Barrel and not the side realist 496 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,280 too much, but I do have to say something really quick. 497 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,640 This was the most time that I've been without you guys that 498 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,720 people have come up to me and say how much they enjoy the 499 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,920 show. Even Amy Templeton got 500 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,800 recognized, which was a first for her by herself. 501 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,520 But I wanted to give a shout out at Beacon Barrel to Lisa, who is 502 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,120 a cast member there, and also Madison, who was afraid to 503 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,360 approach me in the lobby, but then finally got the courage to 504 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:20,360 do so. And both of them just made that 505 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,880 experience so much greater because they knew all the 506 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,160 things. Well, Lisa knew everything 507 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,040 because she works there about, you know, the the bedroom where 508 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,560 the parrot lives and all the things. 509 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,400 And then Madison was just so sweet. 510 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,360 She was with her family and she's like, I didn't want to say 511 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:33,720 anything, but you are so awesome. 512 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,280 We love the show. Tell Amy I love her. 513 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,920 So anyway, back to regularly scheduled programming. 514 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,400 But Lisa and Madison are awesome. 515 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,680 That's awesome. Thank you, Lisa and Madison. 516 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,800 That's awesome. Yeah. 517 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,760 We love meeting you guys. And if you're ever scared to 518 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,920 come and say hi, we are too. We're scared of. 519 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,240 I don't get Paul to introduce himself to. 520 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520 I can't remember who it was now the. 521 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840 CEO of the Walt Disney Company back then, he. 522 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,680 Wasn't so he wasn't. But he was still chairman of 523 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,640 Parks and Resorts and I was sitting gone up to. 524 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,160 Him and gotten their photos. I was sitting. 525 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,280 In Boardwalk, I was too. Scared too so and. 526 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,720 Yeah, yeah. Josh walks by and I'm I instead 527 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,280 of saying hi to him, I'm texting Amy. 528 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,720 I was like, Josh tomorrow, just walk by and she's like, go say 529 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,880 hi. And I'm like, no, I'm not going 530 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,960 to do that. If it was Derek de Boer, though, 531 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,280 I definitely would bother him. Yeah. 532 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,360 Please do. Derek, give us give us another 533 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,480 worst change to Disney Parks over the years. 534 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,000 OK, mine I do have quite quite the list. 535 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Good, positive and maybe not so positive, but for this one I 536 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,680 think it's an absolute no brainer. 537 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,560 Of course, my favorite phrase is magical express. 538 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,720 Why? I knew you were going to say. 539 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,400 Why, why, why, why get rid of it? 540 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,720 And again, you could charge for Magical Express right now. 541 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,920 So if you're like, oh, we can't afford it because it costs too 542 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,600 much money for we used to do it for free charge for it. 543 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,200 People. Will pay for that service. 544 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,920 People are paying for random Uber cars or vans to pick them 545 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,440 up and take them. They will pay money to take a 546 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,440 Disney bus to their resort because it was that feeling that 547 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,840 when you arrive that it was OK my vacation starts not when I 548 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,880 get to the resort. It starts now like it starts at 549 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,800 the airport here we go. We're loading in the bus, 550 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320 they're playing Disney, you know, videos on the bus and 551 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040 Disney music, and you're getting dropped off at your resort. 552 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,080 I just don't understand why, because you could charge for it 553 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,240 and people would not be upset to say, oh, it used to be free, for 554 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,000 God's sakes. We just talked about how they're 555 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,480 charging, you know, $85 to ride one ride. 556 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,520 So it's not that people will be shocked that Disney's charging 557 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,640 for it, but why they got rid of it because it kept people in 558 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:52,000 that bubble, especially now more than ever before, there are 559 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,640 reasons to leave the Disney bubble. 560 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,840 There are great reasons that you want to get out, whereas Magical 561 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,440 Express would pick you up, drop you off, and basically you're in 562 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,800 that Disney bubble. So Magical Express, I, I hate 563 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,120 that. I just hate that they got rid of 564 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,040 it for no other reason besides money and that they won't bring 565 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,040 it back even though they could still charge for it. 566 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,560 So. That's yeah. 567 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,640 And that's the biggest take away is that I'm surprised that 568 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,200 they're leaving money on the table by not charging for it. 569 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,640 You have. A It is a like a package add on 570 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600 and when people are purchasing their, you know, Disney World 571 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,400 packages, yeah. It would be so simple and we've 572 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,640 been doing a lot of research recently because we're looking 573 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,080 into transportation for our key holder cruise in July, which you 574 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,480 know, shameless quick plug Key holder vacations group cruise 575 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,280 July 20th through the 24th. I always have this way too 576 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,960 handy, but there have been several rooms that have opened 577 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,120 up for the group cruise. So if you are interested, head 578 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:53,120 to keyholdervacations.com, click on the group cruise button, fill 579 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,000 out that form. If there is still room 580 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,680 available, we'll send you an e-mail. 581 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920 You know, there have been some questions recently about that. 582 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,360 So there have been several rooms open. 583 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520 There's only like 3 or 4 of them, but our. 584 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,280 Definitions of several are very different. 585 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760 What's yours? Several to me is like 10. 586 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Maybe not. 10-3 or four, Max. Yeah, so a few. 587 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,640 As opposed to several few, I don't know a hand. 588 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,600 It's like when you. Debate with someone like is it 589 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360 this week or next week and you're on. 590 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,600 Wednesday. I cannot agree on this at all. 591 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,600 That would really derail this show. 592 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,320 But we've been doing a lot of research related to the cost of 593 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,760 transportation from the Walt Disney World Resort to Port 594 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,200 Canaveral and back. And what shocks me is how cheap 595 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,880 it is ultimately when it comes to charter bus transportation. 596 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,840 And you like, I'm shocked because I know that baked into 597 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,280 the prices that we're being quoted, you know, that's being 598 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080 up charged to a certain degree so that the company that we are 599 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,480 booking through is making money. It's pretty cheap. 600 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,800 So you could add this back, have people charge for it. 601 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,520 I feel like it would just be an easy win but. 602 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,920 Well, and at least give it as an option because like Derek said, 603 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,480 you know, people are already getting from the airport to 604 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,160 Disney somehow, whether it's Uber, whether it's Lyft, whether 605 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,440 it's mirrors, whether it's a rent a car, whatever the case 606 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,760 may be, that's money that Disney is not getting that they gave 607 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,960 away. And you should. 608 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,680 One of the things that a company should never, ever do is be in 609 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,720 competition with themselves and the fact that they're trying to 610 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:38,840 sell mini vans at $250 each way to go from the airport when you 611 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,440 can get the same van without Mini's paint job on the side for 612 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,200 1/4 of that. I just it, it boggles my mind 613 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,760 that whoever over there at transportation is like, Oh well, 614 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,920 we listened to our guests and they would much rather pay 615 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,400 triple and have their own van. You know, it's, I don't know, it 616 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:01,360 drives me insane because it is so easy to do. 617 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,400 And again, being in competition, you yourself, you took away the 618 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,920 mystery of there was a time that I would get on the magic express 619 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,960 and wand around Disney and have no earthly idea where I am on 620 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,880 the planet in relation to anything else. 621 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,400 Now that I have Ubers and Lyft, it's easy to get to Universal, 622 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,320 It's easy to world, it's easy to get to the fantastic pin company 623 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,040 and the magical market. You know, it just, it blew the 624 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,680 bubble up and now it's just so easy to just see everything 625 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,120 else. Disney screwed that one for 626 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,640 sure, Amy. Take us on our next round of 627 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,480 worst changes over the years at Disney Parks. 628 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,560 I don't even know. OK, I had one. 629 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Can you come back to me because I lost it. 630 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,320 I will. Come back to you we've. 631 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,600 Already named something I'll use. 632 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,440 One that again was a recent pet peeve and heading to Epcot yet 633 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,040 again. Amy and I are in the car driving 634 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,840 through the parking structure of Epcot and Amy looks over to me 635 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,240 and goes. Did we need a park pass today? 636 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,240 Oh, that. Was it That was the one I 637 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,120 thought of that it's it has come back to me and I go. 638 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,440 I don't think so. Yeah, we did And and at that 639 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,640 point for the next 15 minutes of my day, my mind is going do I 640 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,520 need a park pass? He. 641 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,760 Goes do I not we don't need a park pass. 642 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,520 It's a, it's a weekday and I was like, I thought that was only 643 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,840 weekdays after two and it's 11. And so we were like going back 644 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,720 and forth and we and I was like. There still can't be a 2:00 645 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,400 restriction on these things, can there? 646 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,360 Well, and behold, we needed we needed a park pass. 647 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,240 But and I'm never going to put myself in the position like I 648 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,440 did at Hollywood studios one day again where I tap in and it 649 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,200 turns blue and they look at you like you're dumb. 650 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,360 And they're like, do you have a park pass? 651 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,400 And I'm like, no, because actually the rules today say I 652 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,360 don't need a, you need a park pass and you have to step to the 653 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,120 side and it's like you're in the corner in time out making your 654 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,480 park pass, hoping it's. Available, you could have just. 655 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,960 Pushed the button. There was definitely a button on 656 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,760 your iPad that you could have pushed to push me through, but 657 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,160 no, you made me step to the side and make the park pass. 658 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,200 It's the same button that they push when you're a little bit 659 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,640 late for your fast pass or for your lightning lane. 660 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,920 They let you go anyway. It's the same button, I'm sure 661 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,720 of it. But it's so funny that you 662 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,640 brought this up because, you know, like I just said, my 663 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,320 sister was in town. Amy and I did parks four days in 664 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,880 a row, open to close and the first two days without fail, 665 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,480 blue screen, blue ring on the tap in and Amy's like I thought 666 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,920 you made park passes. I'm like, I did, I did. 667 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,280 And then when it didn't work the day before, I double checked and 668 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,320 in fact did make them again, except for I made them for the 669 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,520 wrong days. So that's fun, but I made them 670 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,640 for the wrong weekend. But what blows my mind about 671 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160 that is I was still able to make all my lightning lane 672 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,200 reservations, my dining reservations like it. 673 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,640 Those two things should mesh. Like if you don't have a park 674 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,800 pass I don't feel like you should be able make those 675 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,200 lightning Ling reservations and vice versa. 676 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,040 The whole system just doesn't function like it should. 677 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,159 Just take them away. Just take them away. 678 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,239 Yeah, if I get there and. I can't go then so be it. 679 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,400 You, you have the historical evidence now of whatever you've 680 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,880 needed over the past few years. It just feels like we're beating 681 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,120 a dead horse with whatever you can do 'cause they weren't 682 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,360 planning on me making the last minute Park Pass reservation 683 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,239 either. So whatever analytics or data 684 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,520 that they're doing, they couldn't have planned for Maybe 685 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,320 an influx of 7000 people all of a sudden decided, oh, we're 686 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,320 going to have cat like, you don't know, like. 687 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:44,000 You like, like, like you're there in the front of the park. 688 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,760 And then they're like, yeah, hold on, we got Paul and Amy 689 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,440 Krieger are here. I repeat, Paul and Amy Krieger 690 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,280 are in the park. They're in the park. 691 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,080 And then they what have like people rush in from backstage, 692 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,840 like to go fill other areas, Like what is the point? 693 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,040 And and then you have those days to where do they still do those 694 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,720 things where it's like, OK, that's a good to go day, which I 695 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,200 never understood. Oh yeah. 696 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,240 That but to. Figure out if it's a good to go. 697 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,880 You have to try to make a. You have to try to. 698 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,040 Make a park pass and then it goes no, no, no, it's good to 699 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,000 go. You don't. 700 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,760 Need one today. Jupiter is in retrograde and you 701 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,640 are good to go and that makes. Me even matter like at that 702 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,880 point, just let me make the park pass because I've gone through 703 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,480 the the process of it. Please just let me make the park 704 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,720 pass. Like it makes me more mad that 705 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,960 you just said you've just wasted your time. 706 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,240 And I guess OK I'll even I'll even play a devil's advocate and 707 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,160 meet them halfway if they need the data. 708 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,960 And if they still want to control annual pass holders, OK 709 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,880 so be it. Make it 1 button on the app 710 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,440 that's not hard to find rather than hitting the plus. 711 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,880 Make park reservations which takes you to the website. 712 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,920 Log in if you don't have good Internet. 713 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,400 It is a lot. In the. 714 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:01,120 App Today's the 13th pick it drop down Magic Kingdom dunzo 715 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,080 Yeah, thank you for coming to Jeff talk, Jeff. 716 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,600 Talk. Yeah, Jeff. 717 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,760 Jeff for IT. Director of of Disney Parks, 718 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,760 please. Yeah. 719 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,360 Derek, what's, what's your next on the worst changes over the 720 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,040 years at Disney parks? Well. 721 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,720 I can tell you that I think just personally for me when I was 722 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:23,800 talking about this with Annie is that we said while there's some 723 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,800 good parts of it, I think overall with the introduction of 724 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,040 the Disney Dining Plan, I think dining quality dropped 725 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,120 drastically. I think Disney food and I think 726 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,320 Disney quality used to be a lot better before they came up and 727 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,120 added the dining plan because they knew so many people would 728 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,160 be taking advantage of the dining plan. 729 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,520 They knew so many people would get the dining plan and then 730 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,840 wind up wasting food that I feel like they just don't care, You 731 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,280 know, that they know that when you sit down, one of the first 732 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,320 questions, you know, are you on the Disney Dining Plan? 733 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,240 And I think as great as Disney service is, I think sometimes, 734 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,880 even if the servers maybe know that you're on the dining plan, 735 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440 I, I think that might change things a little bit. 736 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,840 I think food quality wise, I think at 100% change things just 737 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,040 because of, you know, people wind up getting food that maybe 738 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,320 they're not even hungry for. So maybe the people are like, 739 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,920 well, it doesn't matter if it's the best quality because they're 740 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,120 just getting it because they got to eat 18 entrees a day because 741 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:30,200 they paid for it, you know, So that to me and the inclusion 742 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,000 that they felt that some of these, you know, top tier Disney 743 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,600 dining restaurants needed to go to that pre free menu prefix. 744 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,920 Yes, pick. One appetizer, pick one entree 745 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,800 and pick one dessert. I just don't. 746 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,240 And California Grill, I'm looking at you. 747 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:55,200 Knock it off, get back to what the California grill used to be. 748 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,880 And again, the quality is still good. 749 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,160 I'm not going to take away from it. 750 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,920 Just let me. Go through the. 751 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,400 Menu let me order 4 appetizers. If that's all I want to eat, let 752 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,040 me pick it. Just don't make me eat it. 753 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,040 I don't like dessert so I feel like I have to get a dessert 754 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,360 even though I don't want it. And the Be our Guest restaurant 755 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,440 does the same thing. I mean the food there's just hot 756 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,920 garbage. It's terrible period. 757 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:20,200 But it's the fact that you have to pick one appetizer and people 758 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,920 think it's like, oh, we're getting a lot of food because it 759 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,000 also includes an appetizer and an entree. 760 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,480 But to me, you know, especially at Be Our Guest, like, man, that 761 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,200 food comes out and you know, it's just sitting there waiting 762 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,280 under like a heat. Plant and it 'cause. 763 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,760 You you order your food at Be Our Guest. 764 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,280 That slop is on the table within like 15 seconds. 765 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,240 Like, here's your appetizer, here's your, you know, So yeah, 766 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:47,320 to me, the dining plan, I think threw off the overall quality of 767 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,880 it. And I think restaurants need to 768 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,720 get away from that. Whatever, free free. 769 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,560 I never know how to say prick free, prick free prefix. 770 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,080 Prefix they they love it though, because those are some of the 771 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,880 highest grossing Disney restaurants out there. 772 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,280 Be our guest was just listening to an episode of Len Testa and 773 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,440 the Disney Dish podcast. Highly recommend if you don't 774 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,640 listen to that already do so. But Len was saying on that that, 775 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,040 you know, Be Our Guest is one of the if not continues to be the 776 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,200 highest grossing restaurant on Disney property because that's 777 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,600 exactly everybody has. To spend that much money at a 778 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600 minimum. Yeah, and well, the food cost, 779 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,280 the food quality is not the greatest. 780 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:29,200 A great example of who does it. Well, Royal Caribbean Cruise 781 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,400 Lines, we just did dinner at Izumi Sushi on board Royal 782 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,640 Caribbean. And what is great is that you 783 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,360 have both options and that's the easy thing that you could bring 784 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,360 back is that you have this option of a prefix. 785 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,640 It's like $45.00. You choose you know certain 786 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,520 things on the menu, or you can. Buy you can. 787 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,840 Buy a la carte and if there's any restaurant that has just 788 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,920 been destroyed in my heart, Derek, you said it. 789 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,760 California Grill, ever since they moved to that model, ever 790 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:08,000 since they got rid of the brunch on Sundays, It is so I was. 791 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,840 Doing some research today and both AMA AMA and Makahiki at 792 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,960 Alani are prefix canceling. Our Alani immediately breakfast. 793 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,960 And dinner at Makihiki is prefix, do you know? 794 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,040 We just booked the luau for Aulani today too. 795 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,680 Do you know if that went back to a buffet? 796 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,120 It is a buffet. Now, OK, yeah, well, I like the 797 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,880 little box, little Bento boxes. Bento boxes. 798 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,440 I enjoyed it. Yeah, but man, you hit the, you 799 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,360 hit the nail on the head. And I'll just add to the 800 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,960 conversation tables in Wonderland and then I'll I'll 801 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,240 shut up for a little bit. Go ahead, Jeff. 802 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:43,640 No, you're fine. I just was going to say it's, 803 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,520 it's interesting because I'm having a love hate relationship 804 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,440 with dining at Disney right now. I absolutely hate the prefix 805 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,040 menus as well, unless I'm doing like a dessert party or a 806 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,720 fantasmic dining package. That to me makes it a little 807 00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,400 more worth it. But you know, I just looked at 808 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,120 California girl, I'm like, I still haven't eaten there. 809 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,280 I got to try it out, $100. Are you kidding me? 810 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,080 I'm looking at the food. I'm like, I'm not Nope, I'm not 811 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,320 going to eat all that. I'm not going to eat all that. 812 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,280 I'm not going to eat all that, but at the same time, we just 813 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,760 did four days in the park and we had really, really good meals at 814 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,560 all four locations that we ate at, which was unusual. 815 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,800 I will say sometimes I wonder if Derek's just he, he loves his go 816 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,880 TOS and they've moved chefs around and his go TOS are now 817 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,680 serving somewhere else. And so he needs like, I think we 818 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,080 talked a couple weeks ago, I was like, I'm not going to go to the 819 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,200 boathouse. The boathouse is freaking good, 820 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,560 dude. You got to go try the boathouse 821 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,840 in. 35. Years or not, boathouse, I think 822 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,280 we're talking boat rights. I'm sorry. 823 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,800 Oh yeah, I. Do like boat rights, right? 824 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he, he's like, I'm not going 825 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,080 back there. It was terrible 35 years ago. 826 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,680 It's not terrible now. We ate at gold at Brown Turkey 827 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,840 next week. We ate at. 828 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,160 Oh my gosh, we ate at. Raglan Rd. 829 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,800 I can't remember. Oh, Raglan Rd. it was. 830 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,120 It was, I'm not going to say it was great, but for the price it 831 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,520 was, it was very well. So you went. 832 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,160 To boat rights this week. This past week, we did not go. 833 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,600 To boat rights, but we have gone recently with some other 834 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,800 friends. We ate at Tony's Town Square, 835 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,680 which it wasn't bad like you know what I mean? 836 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,320 And I know we'd like to joke because wasn't bad, that 837 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,480 shouldn't be the bar, but we even ate it on the patio like 838 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,800 Derek told us to in the blazing heat and it was, it was great. 839 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,520 My sister loved every meal. And then we ate at Tepanito 840 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,720 which is one of our go TOS and just I'm sorry. 841 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,320 There are some good places at for Disney. 842 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,200 I don't tell them that I'm ever on the dining plan 'cause I I'm 843 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:49,520 afraid that's when they spit on our food, 'cause when Tatum 844 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,560 worked at Mara and anybody said they had the dining plan, they 845 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,920 hate it so much. The employees hate it 'cause 846 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,160 it's so complicated. But yeah, anyway, we had some 847 00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:04,440 really good meals this week. I go back to what Derek said 848 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,920 too, that first question and it's always it still remains to 849 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,000 be the one that is asked now that dining plan's back is are 850 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,560 you on the Disney Dining Plan? It and I I almost want to take 851 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,520 it a step further because now some servers have started going 852 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:25,200 or any applicable discounts and and they're asking like ahead of 853 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,160 you ordering like do you have an AP or DVC discount? 854 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,560 Maybe that's to expedite the bill at the end. 855 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,720 I I hope that's why, but I hope that those discounts are not 856 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,280 getting the same spit on treatment that Jeff just Yeah, 857 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,960 right. When we were at Tony's, they 858 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,520 asked do you have any discounts? And my sister was insistent on 859 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,280 just being on her own check. And she's like, well, I don't, 860 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,600 I'm on my own check. Why would you just give away the 861 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,720 10% money pay for in Venmo, you know? 862 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,960 But the server was so funny about it. 863 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,320 She goes, OK, well they get a discount and you don't like it 864 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,960 was like almost. I'm not shaming her or not. 865 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,240 It was wild. Anyway, side note. 866 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,160 Jeff, what's next on your list? I'm going to say Magic Band 867 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,160 Plus. I used to be a collector of 868 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,600 magic bands just like I'm a collector of pins. 869 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,800 I loved They were 10 or 12 or 15 bucks, and you could get them 870 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,480 for every ride and every attraction. 871 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,000 And Amy liked to match her outfits. 872 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,800 And they said, hey, we're going to do Magic Band Plus and it's 873 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,480 going to cost $50 and they're going to do so many things. 874 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,800 Nothing like now they vibrate when you walk past the golden 875 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,880 statue sometimes if they forgot, if they remember to turn them on 876 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,520 that day and they light up during Fantasmic, if you 877 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,280 remember to charge it. Like now your phone does 878 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,920 everything you need in your magic band to do. 879 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,280 Like they invested all this money and all this technology 880 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,800 you used to get them for free unless you wanted one a little 881 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,120 bit nicer. Like either take them away or 882 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,400 make them do more things or go back to the old version or cheap 883 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,360 in collectors items that people wanted to actually collect. 884 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,240 People will pay 10 bucks or 15 bucks for a pin or a magic band. 885 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,480 They're not going to pay 50. So instead of selling 20 of them 886 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,320 on a trip, now you're not selling any of them. 887 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,600 Because my phone does what I want it to and it was. 888 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,480 That extra special aspect of planning a Disney vacation of 889 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,720 getting the luggage tags in the mail or getting getting free 890 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:34,680 magic. Bands it was so fun when they 891 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,040 would come like a little name next to another box yeah yes and 892 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,600 I'd love the luggage tags and they would have your resort on 893 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,360 it It was I took but Jeff I. I lived Moonlight Magic when we 894 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,600 were there a couple weeks ago. I lived exactly what you just 895 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,920 said because I had a so I had a magic band plus on and someone 896 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,320 else in our group had a magic band plus on and fireworks 897 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,160 screwing off and his is all lighting up and dancing and 898 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,360 doing all the things and I'm a I'm dead as a door knife. 899 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,240 Oh, I don't even. Know what? 900 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,600 Mine's bad. I haven't charged it. 901 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,560 Not even. Charger is if you know. 902 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,640 Yeah, I yeah, so. Yeah, it's, it's just sad 903 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,600 because, you know, they spent a billion dollars on that 904 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,920 technology and now it's just all dying sadly. 905 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,480 And I will just say, why can't the Apple Watch do everything 906 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,920 that the Magic Band did? Still don't understand that 907 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,960 concept, but you know that that seems to be beyond our our 908 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,760 technological opportunities. Well, if you've tuned in to 45 909 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,280 minutes of us hearing our. Worst. 910 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,440 Changes to Disney parks over the years. 911 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,880 You'll realize that 15 minutes ago I decided that this was 912 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,720 going to be a show that we're going to split into. 913 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,440 And so we are definitely going to round us off, go around the 914 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,800 room one more time with some worst changes at Disney parks 915 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,120 over the years. And the next week we will pick 916 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,920 up and it will be the happy show. 917 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,240 I'm sorry because I know you wanted us to end on a happy 918 00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:59,000 note. Unless you just want to add like 919 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,920 a little happiness at the end, but no. 920 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,520 I'll give one that I I I miss there's so many food items that 921 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,440 become well loved and then they just get rid of them. 922 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,240 I don't know why is this going to be. 923 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:12,800 A Taco No. It's it's everything. 924 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,200 It's going to be the. Guacamole. 925 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:17,240 It's. Yeah, spell guacamole. 926 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,760 Guacamole. No, it's OK because you are the 927 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,720 reason. That went away. 928 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,840 I. Am still has a guacamole bar, so 929 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,600 that's all I need. No, so things like like just 930 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,080 just certain dishes that people have always loved, like there's 931 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,600 certain dishes that Okey Wested people will love that Olivia's 932 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,320 and add Sanaa and and they've just been gone. 933 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,920 I miss them and I'm not the only one that misses them and that 934 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,200 Remember that sandwich at Boardwalk that was so good, then 935 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,400 they got rid of it. There's a lot of sand premade 936 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,040 it's. Been a lot of getting rid of. 937 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,600 Just some of their best menu items that sell like people said 938 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,320 they sold really well. Wouldn't it be fun if they did? 939 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,880 Something where like you could vote to bring an item back at 940 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,280 certain places every once in a while. 941 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,840 Like that'd be a fun, be a fun engaging activity. 942 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,040 Like people vote. You know what? 943 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,000 What sandwich should we bring back? 944 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,640 That would be an honest to God true example of we listen to our 945 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,520 guests and we brought back fed sandwich. 946 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,800 That would actually make sense. That would be good. 947 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,240 Derek, what's what's left on your list here? 948 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,240 All right. Well, so I'm just going to touch 949 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:25,640 on one briefly, which is I think a negative I think are the 950 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,920 resale restrictions with Disney Vacation Club. 951 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,240 So I'm sure it's not a surprise that I would bring that up, but 952 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,800 I don't like what it's done. I don't like what it's done to 953 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,360 people that buy direct that for whatever situational reason, it 954 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,200 comes down to it like thousands do they have to sell because of 955 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,120 said restrictions that they thought would essentially Dr. 956 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,560 everyone to purchase direct. It's not the case. 957 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,440 What it does more than anything else, which again, what I hate 958 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,320 is it affects the people that buy direct. 959 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,080 If you bought Riviera direct for whatever reason, you have to 960 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,160 sell your value, it goes right, you know, drops 50%. 961 00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:08,440 You know, I mean, you're losing over $100 a point because of the 962 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,720 restrictions that, you know, a new buyer can only stay at that 963 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,960 specific resort. Now again, I'm just talking 964 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,520 about the newer resort starting with Riviera, Fort Wilderness 965 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,640 Campgrounds and the Disneyland Hotel. 966 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,600 So those three, I just think that putting the restriction 967 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:29,720 label on it, I think does your buyers that trusted you to pay 968 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:34,320 so much more to buy direct. When life happens and they have 969 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,200 to sell said contract that they gave you a lot of money for and 970 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,960 they have to sell it, it does them a huge financial disservice 971 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,880 to do that. I think if you're looking to 972 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,040 have more people buy direct, here's an idea. 973 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,400 Plus up your quote UN quote member perks and your member 974 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,280 benefits, you know, don't put all your, you know, baskets in 975 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040 the hey, look, I get 10% off of Wetzel's pretzel. 976 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,760 I mean, that's not enough to make me spend $255 per point to 977 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,240 buy direct. So I think if that's what your 978 00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:09,320 end game was, was to get people to buy more points direct from 979 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,600 you, then work on what you have to offer those folks that buy 980 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,320 direct from you, but don't penalize the people that bought 981 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,240 direct from you. Thank you. 982 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,160 And nowadays? They've taken it even a step 983 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,720 further with Member Magic Beyond, where you've got what 984 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,520 technically should and could be some of the benefits that would 985 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,840 be a direct benefit now going into an even additional layer of 986 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,080 are you a member Magic Beyond member? 987 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,520 And that complicates things even further. 988 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,000 Like right now they're running a discount 20% off VIP tours. 989 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,840 I'm surprised honestly that that's not a member Magic Beyond 990 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,040 benefit now. It probably isn't because it 991 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,280 wouldn't move as many VIP tours open it up to more people being 992 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,680 a direct benefit, but still that is a pretty substantial benefit. 993 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,680 But also, you know, I, I feel like bookings for member Magic 994 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,680 beyond have to be down in this second year because everyone. 995 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:14,600 So I can tell you when we we had gone to the lounge last year 996 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,080 when we had it and they were a handful of people that also had 997 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,040 member Magic beyond that were like in line because they they 998 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,480 move you to the front. And do you remember we were just 999 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,400 there and they said, well, since you are the, you know, we do 1000 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,960 have a wait, but since you are the only guest on the wait list 1001 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,280 with member Magic beyond, you know, it shouldn't be too long. 1002 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,960 So at that point it was a day we were there. 1003 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,880 Busy day. Yeah, it was a busy day. 1004 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,880 So I, you know, I was surprised and there was a there was a wait 1005 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,680 list for the lounge, but we were the only ones that had it. 1006 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,040 So I do think that. And it was an interesting 1007 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,920 probably. Last repeat buyers if they're 1008 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,080 not going to a lot. Of everyone that bought last 1009 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:58,360 year actually got a Mailer sent to them with a Magic band slider 1010 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,480 saying thank you for being a member of Magic Beyond in 2025. 1011 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,880 Don't forget it's time to renew now. 1012 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,360 Nice little courtesy giveaway, but I wish we had it with us 1013 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,280 right now because this is the largest Magic Band slider I have 1014 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,720 ever seen. It will take up half of your 1015 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,520 magic band. It is just the I don't. 1016 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,400 Think I thought they sent that to people who bought this year I 1017 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,040 think. If you read the the description 1018 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,800 on it, I looked at it online, but I'm pretty sure that it was, 1019 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,480 it was it was actually geared towards people that had 1020 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,320 previously bought just as like a thank you for buying previously. 1021 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,480 OK. So that makes sense. 1022 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,240 Yeah. Try to get them to buy it again, 1023 00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,600 but yeah, trying. To trying to get those people 1024 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:47,320 to, you know, re up, renew, do it again, Jeff, one more worst 1025 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,520 it goes back. To what you were saying what we 1026 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,880 were saying earlier about you should never be in competition 1027 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,960 with yourself. We all know that Disney doesn't 1028 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,760 give discounts unless the bookings aren't up right. 1029 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,000 So if VIP tours are down, it's probably because people are 1030 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,880 buying premier lightning lane Yep because they're the same 1031 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,240 price. If you can get 10 people in a 1032 00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:08,680 group, you know what I mean? Like or really close to so I 1033 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,920 don't know, but now we've. Got we've got free dining coming 1034 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,240 out now. So and what what new is 1035 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:17,000 happening at Disney parks this year? 1036 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,960 Yep, that about sums it up great. 1037 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:22,800 Jeff, what's, what's your last worst for the night, I think. 1038 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,960 I'm going to say I'm going to say merch, which I know is kind 1039 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,120 of a wide angle lens here, but we've kind of already talked 1040 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,560 about the resort specific stuff is really hit and miss. 1041 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,040 Like some are getting the really cool stackable mugs and others 1042 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,040 aren't. I We went through gift shop 1043 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,080 after gift shop with my sister and a lot of them are just the 1044 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,720 same stuff. It's the same hoodies that we've 1045 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,320 seen, it's the same T-shirts, it's the same hats. 1046 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,640 I remember every year I would get a new Disney hat because 1047 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,480 there was some kind of cool thing, but now they're all just 1048 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,560 the same Walt Disney World or Disneyland. 1049 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,840 Not a lot of ride specific merch anymore. 1050 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:04,880 Not a lot of resort specific stuff and just the same crap 1051 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,920 throughout all of the gift shops. 1052 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,520 I remember the day when you would get excited about, oh, 1053 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,160 which T-shirt am I going to get to take home which, which pins. 1054 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,440 It just doesn't seem like there's a lot of, you know, 1055 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,080 don't even get me started on the moonlight magic. 1056 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,000 We already talked about Fat Mickey in the last show or show 1057 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,600 ago. I don't know who's in charge 1058 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,680 over there, but I, I, I just, it's saving me a lot of money 1059 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,360 cuz I haven't bought anything new for a really long time. 1060 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,040 Yeah. It's been a struggle with 1061 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,880 certain items, like just not, I've mentioned them before, the 1062 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,240 mugs that they're doing for DVC members now that they don't have 1063 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:43,920 every resort. So it's like I, I just don't 1064 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,840 understand it. Like a good, good idea but 1065 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,600 executed poorly or any new shirt that comes out that's exclusive 1066 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,920 to DVC or something like that. Great idea, but you only made 1067 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:58,080 two mediums and so. Exactly and Amy was talking 1068 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,920 about this with run Disney and how the Expo sells out of 1069 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,800 everything in the first two hours and most of the people 1070 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,200 buying them aren't even racing. Like she is on a rant right now 1071 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,080 about you should have to show your bib to buy anything for at 1072 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,400 least the first two days, then if they want to open it up at 1073 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,880 the end. But why are they only buying 3 1074 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,680 smalls and 163XS for everything that they do? 1075 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,680 You know what I mean? Like clearly they're selling 1076 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,880 because they're out of them. So why aren't they adjusting 1077 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,560 those numbers? And that goes across almost all 1078 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:35,760 merch. And on top of that, why in oh, 1079 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,920 I've got, you've got me going now I need to come back down to 1080 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,440 earth. I'm just going to end. 1081 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,680 With it. I know, right? 1082 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,000 I just, I, I don't. We are all big Roosevelt's fans 1083 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,280 here. We were so excited that they 1084 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,200 started selling Roosevelt's in the park and it's the same four 1085 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,440 that they started with. It's the Tiki Room, the Star 1086 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,320 Wars one, the Mickey one and Mansion. 1087 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,520 Mansion. One, you know what I mean? 1088 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,000 Like we will buy them, just make them make more. 1089 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,840 Put them in the. Park make more make. 1090 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,240 A make a Disney Vacation Club Roosevelt's. 1091 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,360 That would be, Oh yeah, sell. And make. 1092 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,760 One size resorts. Disney Cruise Line, Roosevelt's. 1093 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,040 That would be cool like. All all. 1094 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,360 Of those more. More ride, you know, attraction 1095 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,840 ones. I. 1096 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,720 Have bought more Disney Roosevelt shirts at Bucky's than 1097 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:30,880 I have at the Disney Parks. Go. 1098 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:36,800 Bucky's. I am convinced it's not the same 1099 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,480 material and I've heard other people have said it, that the 1100 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,360 ones that they sell in the parks are slightly different material 1101 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,920 after you wash them. So be warned. 1102 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,160 Yeah, that's. Like Spirit Jersey, they make 1103 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,160 like the lighter there's definitely. 1104 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,800 Different. They're not all equal. 1105 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,640 Yeah. And some just suck. 1106 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,360 That's weird. Tell us how you really feel. 1107 00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,960 I'm wearing a. Spirit Jersey right now, I 1108 00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:01,040 thought. You were wearing a spirit 1109 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,400 jersey. Well, and there's. 1110 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,120 One last one that I had on my list that I just wanted to get 1111 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,120 to and it, it resonates recently with the announcements that 1112 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:14,640 we've heard about Villains Land. And it more than ever, it's just 1113 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,920 believe in your Imagineering department or think that. 1114 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,280 And I hope that we're headed in a direction where they're 1115 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,120 believing in Imagineering yet again and allowing them to be 1116 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,800 creative in the ways that they want to be creative. 1117 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,560 And I hope that Imagineering gets that message also, because 1118 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,040 I think that's also part of the problem. 1119 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:37,160 They've been so scared to really imagine as of late that, you 1120 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,880 know, they're they're so used to their budget being slashed. 1121 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,720 You know, one of the worst things, you know, that that has 1122 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,040 happened, you know, to Disney parks in recent history, the 1123 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:51,000 Epcot reimagining, which we lost more than we gained, you know, 1124 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,920 and it's because half the stuff got slashed from that that and 1125 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,840 yes, there's some rightful reasons why it did, but why 1126 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,400 haven't we come back around to them? 1127 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,360 Why, why did we make a big public to do and say that the 1128 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,480 reimagining was complete of the place that Walt Disney World 1129 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,960 never wanted to be complete, but we're completed for now. 1130 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,200 Just such a bold statement. You know, let the imagineers do 1131 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,320 what they do best and believe in their work quality. 1132 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,160 Believe it when they can maybe create something that isn't 1133 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,320 fully IP based and that yet could become an amazing IP in 1134 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,840 the future. Look at Pirates of the 1135 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,960 Caribbean. You know, that that is such a 1136 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,040 big IP now, but it wasn't originally. 1137 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,080 It was just a ride. And these rides can become your 1138 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,200 biggest IPS. So let them use their 1139 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,000 imagination and create something new, you know, But instead we're 1140 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,600 going to get, you know, The Hoppers Lizard coaster, I'm 1141 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,560 pretty sure within the next two years. 1142 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,320 Kudos to Hoppers. That was a great original film, 1143 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,680 you know, and and you know, they knocked that out of the park. 1144 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,720 Best thing Pixar has done probably in the past 10 years, 1145 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,800 maybe, I don't know. But it deserves a ride. 1146 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,440 But equally, equally speaking, you know, let's do something 1147 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,160 just, you know, take a chance. What is there to lose? 1148 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,120 You know, Yeah. And I'm just going to echo that 1149 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:17,400 by saying, OK, if if you want to be the luxury brand, you know, 1150 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,560 and if you want to cater to the rich with $430 a day fast passes 1151 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,160 and you've only built the luxury resorts in the last 20 years, 1152 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,800 when was the last time they built a value resort? 1153 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,680 It was art of animation, and it's not even really a value 1154 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,240 resort. You know, when you look at the 1155 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,880 prices, if you're going to do that, and if that's the 1156 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,720 direction you want to go, then you have to make sure the rides 1157 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,480 that you have are updated and fixed. 1158 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,760 In addition to building what's new. 1159 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:49,360 Like Paul was saying, which we absolutely need, If I'm spending 1160 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:55,520 $250 a day, $300 a day on park tickets and fast passes and 1161 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,880 dining, Kylo Ren should work every single time. 1162 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,880 And their Yeti and well, we shouldn't go about the Yeti 1163 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,440 because we know that story, but the the amount of stuff that 1164 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,760 just it was always like the the B roll that the the backup plan 1165 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,520 because this animatronic was broke. 1166 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,560 The the guy at the pre show in Millennium Falcon and they still 1167 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,600 haven't fixed the ball at the Indiana Jones show. 1168 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,880 And even the Indiana Jones show is hit or miss as to which 1169 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,920 version you're going to get. If you're going to charge me 1170 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,960 that much money, I expect everything to be working. 1171 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,360 Now, I realize that things have break and it's out of their 1172 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,800 control, but it shouldn't be broken for three or four days in 1173 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,000 a row in my opinion. I don't know. 1174 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,520 I just, I, we know that they have guys that are working round 1175 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,440 the clock. My one of my best friends in the 1176 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,400 world that works at Hollywood studios. 1177 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,880 That stuff is easy to manage, I feel like. 1178 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,000 And if you're going to charge that kind of money, you 1179 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,960 shouldn't have to default to the backup plan every single day 1180 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,080 when. When I played Roller Coaster 1181 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:01,360 Tycoon as a kid, my mechanics were fixing rides within an hour 1182 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,320 of them going down. Absolutely. 1183 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,560 There was no vomit on my pathways and there was no rides 1184 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,640 weren't broken. Absolutely. 1185 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,960 Well, thanks for hanging in with us everyone as we ranted and 1186 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,280 raved and the curmudgeon just kept on going throughout the 1187 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,160 past hour. Do you have any sunshine or 1188 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,720 roses you want us to end with? Any happy thoughts? 1189 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,520 I'm going to eat a pizza after we're done recording, you got? 1190 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,480 Two hours to go before you can do that. 1191 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:34,640 We will be coming back to you next week with our best changes 1192 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,320 to Disney Parks over the years. But until then, that'll do it 1193 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,040 for this week's episode of the DVC Show. 1194 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,520 We will see you next Monday. Amy, are you going to have 1195 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,680 several pieces of pizza or a few? 1196 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,600 Pieces of pizza. That just depends on who you 1197 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,160 are. You do. 1198 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:51,760 I guess.