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We find any excuse whatsoever to
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that didn't know, on July 4th, 
you might have been celebrating 

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America, but we were celebrating
Jeff Haslam. 

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Happy birthday, Jeff. 
Guys. 

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For belated birthday. 
I had a hat. 

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I had a hat ready and I forgot. 
Happy birthday. 

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Nuts and Derrick, you didn't 
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He lost his stuff. 
I I had a little noisemaker and 

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I had like a little party hat. 
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around the house and I was 
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And then I went to my backpack 
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hat. 
So that's why, that's why it 

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looks so good. 
It holds it. 

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Looks like on on Golden Pond 
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arm. 
Looked like that Lady from the 

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Hee Haw show that had that price
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Yes. 
Mini fro. 

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All right, that's my head. 
Happy birthday, Jeff. 

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Hey everyone, and welcome to 
this week's episode of the DVC 

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Show. 
I'm your host, Paul Krieger. 

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Amy doesn't know what to do with
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it off. 
That's my wife, Amy Krieger. 

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Hello. 
We've got John Sicari, Big fat 

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Panda with us. 
Excited to be back. 

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Thank you. 
We've got sales associate, 

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Senior sales associate for the 
DVC resale market, Derek de 

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Boer. 
Hey now, happy Monday everybody.

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And in the honor of Panda's 
grand return, I've got my famous

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Trapper Keeper shirt on just for
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So it's a 1-2 punch. 
Birthday boy himself 25 years 

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young. 
Jeff Haslam. 

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Yeah, this has been the weirdest
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Thanks. 
Well, hey everybody, how are we 

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doing? 
We got the whole band back 

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together for once. 
It's nice. 

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Yes, Panda, how you doing? 
You. 

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Guys have been everywhere. 
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wringer. 
My, my dental stuff is coming to

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an end. 
I still got like 3 more visits, 

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but I, I heard your show where 
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and smile with the way I looked.
It was kind of I shocked myself.

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I broke a few mirrors. 
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Everyone was asking about you in
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here and we're we're talking 
news this week, although I feel 

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like it's kind of like news, 
minor level news or mid level 

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news. 
There's nothing really super 

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exciting that is on the docket. 
But I think all of us have a 

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couple things to say about all 
these topics. 

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So if you've been living in a 
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attention to what's been going 
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Disney space for a while, some 
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you. 
At least our opinion should be 

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before we get into it. 
This and all of our DVC fan 

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content is brought to you by the
world of DVCDVC resale market 

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where you can buy and sell a 
Disney vacation called the 

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contract Monera Financial. 
Who will help in it that What 

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are you doing, Derek? 
What in the world of DVC logo on

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my? 
You know I put a overlay over 

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this whole section, yet you 
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the street. 
Monera Financial who will assist

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in financing that DVC resale 
contract. 

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Purchase the DVC rental store 
where you can try before you 

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buy. 
Rent some points or rent out 

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your own points for some cash 
and unlocked Magic where you can

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get discounted Walt Disney World
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well as discounted party 
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Mickey's not so scary Halloween 
party and soon Mickey's very 

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Merry Christmas party and I 
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I was at least asked to provide 
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so I assume that's why I was 
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So those are going to be 
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unlockmagic.com/DVC Fan. 
There you go. 

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Any other props you got Derek? 
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of Panda before he got his teeth
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Oh God, what in the world is 
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That's from Stranger Things, 
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I have multiple questions like 
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Everything on my desk, I'm I've 
I've got this. 

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I've got it's like a Buddha, 
Chewbacca. 

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I have that one. 
I'm glad. 

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I'm thank you. 
Thank you for sparing me, Derek,

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because you could have said that
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See. 
Look how svelte the Demi Gordon 

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is. 
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That's you. 
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Don't have my glasses on. 
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Buddha the Buddha Chewbacca is 
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Let us see that again. 
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Look how cool that is. 
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Apologize in advance for the 
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you know, if you if you did goo,
if you do go on Spotify, I do 

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upload a video version of the 
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I don't know if anyone watches 
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You get to see all the fun 
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All right. 
Are we done? 

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Yep, that's it all right. 
We'll see you next Monday. 

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That'll be good. 
Good night everyone. 

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First piece of news I wanted to 
touch on is something that we 

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did a live stream a couple weeks
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It is kind of the rental update.
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by now that Disney Vacation Club
did update some policies related

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to renting DVC points. 
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worth noting here is that all 
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little check box when you 
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online that says do you agree 
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personal use and agree to the 
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if you are modifying a 
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changes to a reservation in the 
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Outside of that, nothing has 
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And I think the big take away 
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understand is that renting DVC 
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All of the governing documents 
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actually become a Disney 
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those have changed. 
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cracking down on what they call 
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see all of these spec 
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the individuals, those types of 
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That's really what Disney 
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and no updates have been really 
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that I did several weeks ago. 
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stream if you have other 
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updates that have happened. 
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is renting out some points that 
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after year, nothing has changed,
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And if there is more information
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let you know. 
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hasn't had an opportunity to 
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Any thoughts or? 
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I just want to kind of drive 
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us 2 definitions that they 
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all of them, but we have 
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points, then you are renting 
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It is not commercial use. 
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Cover some of the annual dues. 
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annual dues, we own Grand 
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always to go out to Grand 
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there if you want to stay there.
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there like every other year, 
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So in the meantime, we rent 
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them or if we're taking a 
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which is the flexibility of DVC.
We are not commercial renters. 

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We are personal use, renting our
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that we need so that we don't 
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So I think that's important to 
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use. 
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Well, and I just wanted to chime
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was a lot of miscommunication 
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And in true Disney fashion, they
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just drop information and then, 
you know, run it past and then 

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never say anything about it 
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But there was a lot of people in
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oh, what's going to happen to 
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Oh my gosh, blah, blah, blah, 
blah, blah. 

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I think it's important for 
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Store is not like sitting on a 
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renting out. 
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just like a real estate broker. 
They're matching somebody that 

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has points with somebody that 
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They're not just like sitting on
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whoever wants them. 
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they're, they're the middle man.
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that the, the, everything goes 
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protected on both sides, that 
the reservations are made and 

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not changed. 
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actually paid so that the 
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cancelled, all those kinds of 
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And I think that was a big 
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know, in our community, in our 
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Yeah, I agree. 
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of, you know, the actual renter.
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the actual live stream that we 
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But again, I work for DVC Rental
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manager for DVC Rental Store. 
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in all of this. 
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renting. 
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that mindset. 
I did not pay Amy to say nice 

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things. 
I might have paid Jeff to say 

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nice things. 
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associated with it if you think 
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But there's so many communities 
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about this and the general take 
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it's nothing new. 
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this market, honestly, one that 
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of these intermediaries a bad 
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One of the best, one of the best
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I've heard is Len Testa and Jim 
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If you listen to the Disney Dish
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when all of this came out and he
said, you know, there are people

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that are doing this the correct 
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for an example and he talked 
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confirmed reservations. 
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confirmed reservations as you 
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a stay booked and it's last 
minute and you're trying to rent

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We allow members to list their 
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but we do specifically advise 
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one of these packets. 
If you are doing it for another 

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reason, then that's really 
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should be booking what we would 
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So anyhow, Lentesta did a did a 
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we had somewhere between 2:00 to
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listed. 
There is another rental company 

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out there, not going to use 
their name, but there's another 

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rental company that has 
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confirmed reservations out 
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In my opinion, that does go 
against what renting your points

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is supposed to be because you're
taking active inventory away 

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from other members that actually
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The last thing I'll say, and 
then I'll let Panda or Derek 

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chime in if they have anything 
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But those of you that have 
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this impacting the ability to 
book a vacation, I don't want to

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sit here and sort of say set set
an unreasonable expectation for 

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you. 
I don't think that's going to 

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change. 
Even if they do continue to 

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crack down on this, those hard 
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get times are always going to be
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what is happening in the rental 
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So while I think yes, it 
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hopefully there is a little bit 
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still going to be challenging to
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Rooms At the end of the day, DVC
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capacity. 
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echoing and I this makes me 
sound worse. 

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It's, it's designed to be 100% 
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the amount of points that they 
have. 

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You know what I mean? 
They have this many rooms and 

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this many points per night and 
they add that up and that's 

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exactly what they sell that many
points. 

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So it's 100%, you know, a sold 
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have been sold. 
And so members are going to use 

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those points and they're not 
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them. 
Yep. 

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Yes, and and I think so, which 
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mentioned that too, that it's 
not like people are going to see

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a huge change. 
It's not like people are going 

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to go online at seven months out
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points and say, Oh my God, I was
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December at Copper Creek. 
It was so easy for me to be able

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to get that. 
It's not like that's going to 

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happen. 
Even if you own those resorts, 

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those reservations are still 
important for you to get on at 

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that, you know, 11 month mark if
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So it's not like it's just 
everything is going to open up 

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and Boardwalk's going to be easy
to get during food and wine 

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festival and Beach club's going 
to be so much easier. 

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It's not. 
But I think it's important to 

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note that, you know, even since 
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I've had folks that fell into 
just about every single bucket 

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Paul and have zero issues, you 
know, whether they went to go 

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Paul, we, you know, Derek, I 
have a reservation that we can't

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take. 
Can the DVC rental store help 

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me? 
Boom. 

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They were able to help them. 
There was no issues. 

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There was no questions asked. 
I've had people then have to 

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make a reservation that that 
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their family, but they were able
to send another family member or

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a friend to be able to book it. 
They were not going to be there.

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There was 0 issues when they 
were doing that. 

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So whether they were being 
compensated or whether they 

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were, you know, just making a 
reservation for friends and 

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family, I've had zero people 
tell me that they've had any 

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issues whatsoever. 
Yeah. 

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And in terms of all of this, we 
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you along the way if there are 
any substantial changes. 

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If Disney does crack down on any
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sure we will hear about it on 
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DIS boards or other online 
communities. 

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And it is something that we're 
monitoring closely. 

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But for most people, and, and 
this is the other thing that I 

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always say is that we are a very
educated small corner of the 

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Disney Vacation Club space. 
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maybe 5% of all members, if that
most members aren't even 

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thinking about this. 
Most people are probably 

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listening to this show and 
going, I didn't even know 

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anything changed. 
I always just click the box and 

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don't read about it or I just 
say yes if someone asks me a 

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question about terms and 
conditions. 

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What's funny, Paul, I and 
everybody here, I'm sorry. 

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I used to work for a competing 
company filming rooms and I 

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remember like every two years 
and I worked for them for quite 

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a while. 
They there's something would 

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come out from Disney to make 
people worried and it was never 

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anything. 
It was just like this where it 

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was kind of like, like like Jeff
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know, see what happens, but. 
Well, and if you're in any 

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position like Derek and I like, 
who has points leftover to rent 

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anyway? 
Right. 

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That's that's what cracks me up 
as I sit here waiting till 

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October 1st so I can borrow from
October 1st of 2026. 

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Waiting. 
It's like an actual holiday in 

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my house that October 1st Boom. 
I'm borrowing from 2026. 

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That's awesome. 
I had I had two points to bank 

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2. 
Really, 2 for anyone. 

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And for anyone out there 
thinking that I can help you 

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rent the two points that you're 
going to lose in three months. 

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I cannot, I'm sorry. 
Just let them go like Elsa, you 

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know, just let it go there. 
You can't do anything with two 

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points unless you bank them and 
then you could use them next 

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year. 
So good call Panda. 

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I'm moving on cabin. 
You might be able to get a 

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cabin. 
Yeah, moving on. 

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Speaking of cabins, we're moving
to Fort Wilderness with the next

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piece of news, which came out of
nowhere. 

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But we know that they've been 
doing a lot of construction over

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there recently, and that is that
a new pool is being constructed 

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over at Fort Wilderness. 
This will actually be next to 

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the Meadow swimming pool. 
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they're expanding this area or 
if they're just going to do kind

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of a swap and replace. 
I would kind of lean towards 

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expansion, but they are actively
working on this as we speak. 

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It is going to be a zero entry 
pool. 

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There's going to be some 
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existing Meadow swimming pool. 
So that answers my question 

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right there. 
If I'd read my own article, I'd 

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maybe I'd know more. 
But a big question that's come 

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up about this is what does that 
relate to Disney Vacation Club 

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members? 
What does that impact DVC 

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members that own at the Fort 
Wilderness cabins? 

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And I think it's worth 
mentioning that when we did all 

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of our research on Fort 
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two years ago at this point when
it was first being talked about,

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we found out that the other pool
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actually the pool that was 
rolled into the DVC Association.

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So this is actually I forget the
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Name. 
It's smaller. 

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Yeah, I forget. 
It does have a specific name, 

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the Wilderness swimming pool, I 
think it is, and it is a smaller

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pool. 
It is closer to the cabins, but 

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that is actually part of the DVC
association at Fort Wilderness. 

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The Meadow swimming pool area is
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those staying at the cabins, 
those staying in a camper, those

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staying at the campgrounds, all 
of those resort amenities. 

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But it does raise the question, 
why are they building another 

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pool here? 
Because you could argue the 

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capacity of the resort has not 
changed. 

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Go ahead, Banda. 
No. 

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You think they're doing it 
because of the new resort that's

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coming with that amazing pool 
and they just want to give 

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somebody something over here. 
So that you can not be staring 

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over the fence at the amazing 
pool and just be like, oh, we 

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gave you this, here you go is a 
yeah, yeah, yeah, just a little 

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yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So Lakeshore Lodge I think is 

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the question mark when it comes 
to why they are doing this. 

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There are questions being asked.
Is Lakeshore Lodge going to be 

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rolled into that Palmetto Trust?
That association or trust group 

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that the cabins were the first 
resort to be rolled into And if 

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they put that in with the 
cabins, then does two things. 

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First, it shares the amenities 
across both properties. 

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It gives you that same 7 to 11 
month at both Lakeshore Lodge 

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and at the Fort Wilderness 
cabins. 

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The biggest benefit though is 
annual dues. 

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It would hopefully significantly
decrease the annual dues for for

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Fort Wilderness cabins. 
Which I think would really help 

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with sales overall of this area 
because we know that Fort 

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Wilderness cabin sales have 
struggled and Lakeshore Lodge is

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a large resort. 
It should be able to absorb a 

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lot of annual dues. 
And by bundling those two 

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together, I think it helps both.
It's just it they complement 

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each other very well, leaving 
them separate. 

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Panda, to your point then yes, 
Fort Wilderness is going to be 

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like the ugly stepchild of 
Lakeshore Lodge next door, and I

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don't know that a new pool even 
helps that. 

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But curious on your guys's 
thoughts. 

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Well, I, I said when we were 
first, when they first announced

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this, the, the Fort Wilderness 
as becoming DVC, I think I said 

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something along the lines of all
they're doing is replacing the 

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mobile homes. 
They're not adding any 

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additional pools or 
infrastructure or some of those 

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things to give it that deluxe, 
you know, feel that we're used 

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to in in a DVC villa. 
So I think as long as the pool 

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is nice, like you said, the one 
that is part of the association 

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is, is really, really small, but
it's kind of like the the tree 

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house pool. 
It's there as an afterthought. 

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If they actually build a feature
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probably help a little bit. 
I mean, it's not going to knock 

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the sails out of the park by any
means, but it needed something a

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little extra, something a little
DVC pizazzy, a little. 

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I don't know. 
I don't know if zero entry is 

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enough, but. 
No. 

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At least it's something I guess 
is what the bottom line ends up 

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being. 
If you heard that grumbling, no 

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in the background, that was 
Derek. 

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Kind of forgot how sensitive 
these mics are. 

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So you said no. 
Why? 

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No, I, I just think they have to
make this part of the same 

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association. 
So when they go to start selling

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Lakeshore Lodge, that hey, I own
Lakeshore Lodge. 

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I can also book one of these 
cabins. 

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I can also book a regular room 
at, you know, Lakeshore Lodge, a

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studio, one bedroom, 2 bedroom, 
whatever it is that they're 

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having. 
I have access to all the pools 

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at both resorts, all the 
amenities at both resorts. 

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I think if they don't, if they 
literally just sell, you know, 

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OK, here's Lakeshore Lodge, or 
you could buy one of the cabins,

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one of the trailers next door. 
I just can't fathom. 

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I mean, those things don't sell 
now, let alone if you put up a 

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beautiful which looks huge. 
I keep seeing people post 

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pictures of this place and I'm 
like, my God, I forget how big 

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Lakeshore Lodge is going to be. 
No one's going to buy the cabins

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like ever. 
No one will ever buy them. 

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But I think if you add them to 
Lakeshore Lodge, I think it 

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gives Lakeshore Lodge even an 
extra little, you know, oomph, 

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like, hey, you have these 
beautiful state-of-the-art, you 

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know, typical DVC 
accommodations. 

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But hey, if you want to rough it
a little bit and go sleep in the

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swampy marsh with panda, then 
you could book one of the 

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cabins. 
So that to me they have to make 

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it the same, the same 
association they have to. 

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I I think it does it. 
Take away from the swampiness. 

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Does it take away? 
No, the death and destruction is

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still there, and you can be nice
and cozy in your cabin and look 

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out and watch it, all of it 
happen. 

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No, no, let's. 
Be honest we're we're talking 

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about a lot of amenities that as
far as I know the cabins don't 

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have fitness center. 
Is there even a freestyle 

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machine to refill your 
refillable mug anywhere over 

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there? 
I have no idea. 

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There is you know, I just 
there's a lot of these DVC that 

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we're used to that the cabins 
just you can only put lipstick 

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on a pig so much it's. 
So muddy and swampy. 

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You really don't need the 
fitness center. 

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I mean your your thighs are 
getting the workout just walking

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around the March. 
Def have you been in one yet? 

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No, but Summerfest in a month 
from tomorrow. 

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I want to know your thoughts 
after Summerfest. 

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OK, Speaking of DVC Summerfest, 
August 8th through the 10th, 

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it's coming up real, real fast. 
Less than a month from when this

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airs, we will actually be 
celebrating Summerfest. 

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We are going to be doing kind of
a monorail bar crawl, so to say,

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on Friday night. 
So if you're in the area, make 

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sure you head to the DVC fan 
Facebook group so that you get 

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all the information on where 
we're going to be when. 

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And then on Saturday, we will be
doing a live stream from the 

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cabins. 
No one can attend the live 

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stream. 
There's a, there's a capacity 

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limit to our cabins. 
So we will all be in a cabin and

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we will go live and share it 
with you all that can't join us 

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that day. 
And then later that day we are 

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actually doing a group Hoop Dee 
Doo event. 

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And just want to say huge shout 
out to our DVC fan Patreon 

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community. 
And for everyone that bought 

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tickets to that event, we had 50
tickets available. 

451
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,880
We sold them out in 2 days. 
We didn't even get to kind of a 

452
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,800
general registration because so 
many people were interested in 

453
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,080
joining us for that. 
So we're going to meet up a 

454
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,600
little bit before that event and
hang out, have some drinks, and 

455
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,120
then we're going to enjoy Hoop 
Dee Doo on Saturday, Sunday, 

456
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:42,400
we've got an exclusive meet up 
for our Patreon community that 

457
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,680
morning. 
And then we're going to be in 

458
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,440
Magic Kingdom for the rest of 
the day just kind of hanging out

459
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,280
and taking in all of the sights 
of Magic Kingdom, having some 

460
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,440
fun. 
So hope to see you there for 

461
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,880
Summerfest. 
And then also, if you can't make

462
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,920
us for that, Oktoberfest is 
coming October 17th through the 

463
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:05,080
19th, and that will be at 
Disney's Old Key Jeff Resort, 

464
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,360
and we're going to have some 
fun. 

465
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:11,960
I actually just ended a phone 
call a couple hours ago about 

466
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,440
talking about some fun events 
that we can do for that, some 

467
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,480
exclusive opportunities. 
So nothing to announce yet, but 

468
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,920
there's some stuff in the work, 
some cool stuff. 

469
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,880
And why we're talking about 
this, you know, I'm not going to

470
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,960
give any spoilers, but you're 
going to want to tune into that 

471
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,200
live show. 
Jeff might have a surprise to 

472
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,720
share. 
Are you there? 

473
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Are you talking about? 
Oh, I think I know what you're 

474
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,920
saying. 
I have no idea. 

475
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,600
I know. 
Absolutely no idea. 

476
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,880
He mentioned, he mentioned 
something to me when we went out

477
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,800
with us and our lovely better 
halves to Universal Citywalk to 

478
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,200
go see a comedian and we were 
out. 

479
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,760
We had a great time. 
It was so much fun. 

480
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,880
And I think he said like 37 
times, like, you're not going to

481
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,680
believe what I have, You're not 
going to believe what I have. 

482
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,640
Is Nikki Glacier coming to the 
event? 

483
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,880
Can we spend that on social 
media, please? 

484
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,320
We'd get more people. 
That'd be great. 

485
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,280
There's no hoop to do ticket for
Nikki. 

486
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,880
Sorry, sold out. 
I got us a golf cart, by the 

487
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,560
way. 
Well, Amy did, because she 

488
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,400
waited on hold with Disney to 
get us a golf. 

489
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,520
Cart Yeah, the six seaters were 
sold out. 

490
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,400
Yeah, so Panda, we're going to 
strap you to the roof in a chair

491
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,080
and you're just going to. 
I totally forgot like. 

492
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,520
In Edna from vacation. 
There might still be 4 seaters 

493
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,240
available. 
The six seaters are definitely 

494
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,040
gone, Jeff, and you'll be 
reprimanded on the phone 

495
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,440
verbally for not booking sooner.
They did tell me that. 

496
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,280
I better call tomorrow. 
Don't worry, we'll just drag you

497
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,560
back and forth. 
We'll just be like a. 

498
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,560
Shuttle. 
It'll, yeah, it'll be a shuttle 

499
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,560
to wherever we're headed. 
It'll take us an hour to get 

500
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,840
there because I'll have to drive
back and forth three times, but 

501
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,560
we'll make it there anyhow. 
Yeah, we're going to hang out. 

502
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,400
We're going to have some fun. 
It's going to be a good time. 

503
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,920
I don't even know what this show
is about anymore. 

504
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,200
We're still on Fort Wilderness 
and we're like 35 minutes into 

505
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,800
the show. 
Hey, when does Test Track 

506
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800
reopen? 
Probably by the time this show 

507
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,000
goes live. 
It actually is reopening on July

508
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040
22nd. 
Cast member previews have been 

509
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,840
ongoing, Annual pass holder 
previews are coming up. 

510
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,360
Actually they will have started 
by the time this have has gone 

511
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,480
up and Jeff will have rode test 
track by the time this has gone 

512
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,960
up and calendar. 
Has already we have. 

513
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,680
Your annual pass holders on 
Sunday so. 

514
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,120
Yeah, yeah, Pan, I wrote. 
It yesterday, yeah. 

515
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,680
No spoilers. 
I will say it's the best version

516
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360
of the ride so far in my 
opinion. 

517
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,280
I expected a little bit more 
based on how long it was down, 

518
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560
but I like it. 
I'm happy with with what I saw. 

519
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,880
I still spoil anything for the 
spoiling people. 

520
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,160
You did. 
You write it, Derek. 

521
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,200
No, absolutely not. 
I have not done it. 

522
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,680
But the day that the first 
YouTube videos popped up, of 

523
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960
course I was down. 
So I've I watched every one of 

524
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,240
those YouTube videos. 
I again will not give any 

525
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,800
spoilers out, but I can tell you
as long as you set your 

526
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,040
expectations and I think this is
what Panda's problem was. 

527
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:19,360
The ride track itself has not 
changed at all, so it's still 

528
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,000
the same. 
I expected out of a Tronics, 

529
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,840
that's what I expected because 
of world of motion so. 

530
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Yeah, I think. 
Yeah, I know. 

531
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,440
And. 
You did. 

532
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,400
You did hear about the crash, 
right? 

533
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,320
Oh yeah, yeah. 
OK, it wasn't a big deal, but it

534
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,200
was. 
I mean, sounds cool, yeah. 

535
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,280
Yeah, it's it's hard to, it's 
hard to talk about it without 

536
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,600
giving away any. 
Spoilers, I have not watched 

537
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760
anything. 
I think it look, I think it 

538
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560
looks great. 
I still prefer I think of test 

539
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,920
track the first version out of 
all of them. 

540
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,280
I like this one the the middle 
1. 

541
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,880
You could completely do away 
with the last one, the Tron, 

542
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,320
with the, you know, bad video 
game lighting. 

543
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,680
Yes, terrible. 
Yeah, it was bad. 

544
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,160
Terrible, terrible. 
So I I think this one is a huge 

545
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,360
improvement with a little bit of
the mix of the world of motion 

546
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:17,600
and actual physical sets, which 
made me excited to see verse, 

547
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600
you know, screens and all that. 
There was actual physical sets, 

548
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,480
which is cool. 
So. 

549
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,760
Panda, am I correct that we no 
longer build our own car as part

550
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,080
of this new version? 
Correct. 

551
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,400
And you know what? 
It's not missed at all, or at 

552
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,760
least by me, because it was 
just, it didn't matter. 

553
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,120
You built it and you were 
excited about it and it it 

554
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,560
didn't matter. 
So I'm glad they got rid of 

555
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,960
that. 
Down the line because people 

556
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,240
wanted to finish their cars 
before they got on the thing. 

557
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,800
I'm like, it doesn't matter if 
it's blue or yellow, your car's 

558
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,520
the same car as everybody 
else's. 

559
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040
See, I went through it like 
once, totally. 

560
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,320
And then like, didn't do it for 
years, but it's still like that 

561
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,000
one that I did was always linked
to my magic band. 

562
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,040
So if I touched it right before 
I got on, I always had this 

563
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,320
really old car that I designed 
like 6 or seven years ago. 

564
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,280
It was great. 
I mean, it was it was fun and 

565
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,640
some people are going to miss 
that. 

566
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,440
Kids I think are going to miss 
the creation, but it just, it 

567
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,240
was a bottleneck. 
But like once, once you did it 

568
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,040
just like Jeff said, once you 
did it once and then you went 

569
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,000
back. 
It's like having to watch the 

570
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,200
three Guardians pre shows. 
You're like, oh God. 

571
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,880
Yes, again, yes. 
Designing it and you're doing 

572
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,520
your finger over the screen and 
you're picking up like 18 

573
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,040
different diseases from 
everybody on the screen. 

574
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,120
OK, I'm done. 
No. 

575
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,480
It's gross. 
I don't like touching the 

576
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,280
screen. 
Yeah. 

577
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,320
All right. 
Well, new test track. 

578
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Let us know in the comments what
you think if you've had the 

579
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,520
opportunity to ride it. 
We have not ridden it. 

580
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,640
We will be on it maybe in a few 
weeks, maybe once it opens, I 

581
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,040
don't know. 
We don't really have plans to 

582
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,440
go. 
Do we think so? 

583
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,880
I was looking at the the dates 
that they allowed for DVC and 

584
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,560
for annual pass holders and they
specifically blocked out the one

585
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,320
day that Moonlight Magic happens
to be at Epcot. 

586
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,600
Like that is not any previews at
all that day for anybody. 

587
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,520
Do we think they'll open it for 
Moonlight Magic for DVC? 

588
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,360
That would be a nice gesture. 
That would be a very nice thing,

589
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,640
yeah. 
We we have no inside information

590
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440
but that would be cool. 
Are you going? 

591
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,600
You'll have to report back. 
I I will. 

592
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,600
Yeah. 
So can I give you a spoiler on 

593
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,880
the queue or no? 
Yes. 

594
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,040
Sure, we. 
Don't care. 

595
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,720
OK. 
Do you know when you're in 

596
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,360
Pinocchio Village House and you 
can look down and see it's a 

597
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,720
small world? 
Yeah. 

598
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,320
You know, you could see the boat
go through. 

599
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,480
So now when you're in the first 
part of the queue, you see the 

600
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,760
cars in the window and the 
people all waving down as 

601
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,760
they're ready to make their 
ascension up. 

602
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,920
The first part of the ride. 
I did. 

603
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,560
I thought that was a pretty cool
thing, and everybody's waving. 

604
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,280
So you had that connection with 
the people up there to wave to 

605
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:58,920
them. 
I like that. 

606
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,520
What about the exit is is it 
still a showroom and video games

607
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,000
and all that stuff? 
Right now there's a huge 

608
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,440
curtain, so it looks like 
there's still going to be 

609
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,080
merchandise and I think that we 
still saw the showroom. 

610
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,040
So the showroom is cool, but 
there's a merchandise place 

611
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,200
that's that's covered. 
Are they upgrading it to used 

612
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,280
car sales and Derek, that's 
going to be where you're 

613
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,240
stationed or? 
When you hold too. 

614
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:29,920
I was going to say that. 
Well, that's test. 

615
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,520
That's test track for you. 
Let's move on to other cars. 

616
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,800
I, I feel like I've ordered 
these perfectly with Segways, 

617
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,960
other cars. 
More details have been announced

618
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,800
for the new cars area coming to 
Magic Kingdom. 

619
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,480
The biggest detail is that the 
area is now closed and under 

620
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,920
construction. 
Jeff, as of recording this, you 

621
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,440
were there last night to say 
goodbye to the Rivers of 

622
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,960
America. 
How was it? 

623
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,960
Was it busy? 
It was great. 

624
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,200
And we actually we did a little 
video to kind of say goodbye. 

625
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,880
So that'll be going up here 
whenever Paul decides he wants 

626
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:06,480
to send it. 
But OK, so real quick for me, I 

627
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,159
can count the number of times 
that I made the journey over to 

628
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,280
Tom Sawyer Island and it's on 
one hand, you know what I mean? 

629
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,679
At the same time, there were a 
lot of people that were going 

630
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,760
over there both on the riverboat
and on the island that 

631
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,639
definitely had an emotional 
connection. 

632
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,000
Some people were dressed up as 
Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn and 

633
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,120
just all in for the experience. 
I think it is going to be missed

634
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,360
by a lot of people, especially 
those with kids. 

635
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,440
I like I said, I I could take it
or leave it. 

636
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,360
I think that space could be 
better utilized. 

637
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,760
But I keep going back to Amy and
I were discussing this on the 

638
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,120
way home. 
I hated that at Disney World 

639
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,719
with all this land, they have to
get rid of something to give us 

640
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,679
something new. 
I'm excited for cars and I'm 

641
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,880
excited for the changes. 
I really do hope that it's more 

642
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,560
of a Pandora like it melds with 
the area rather than a Toy Story

643
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,320
land that just is kind of there,
you know, like they really need 

644
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,520
to make sure that they meld this
with the surroundings. 

645
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680
So I'm always excited for the 
future. 

646
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,720
I'm excited for new things, but 
it's it's definitely a change to

647
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:13,120
the skyline that we've known for
50 years, you know, so it's 

648
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440
going to be interesting to see. 
But when I got up this morning 

649
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,160
and looked at the app and it's 
now just grass on the app with 

650
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,280
no Rivers of America, I was 
like, yeah. 

651
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,000
Don't you love this new concept 
art that at least has some 

652
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,440
water? 
At least there's a harm. 

653
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,640
Candid about it for sure. 
Yeah, I mean, they didn't have 

654
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,360
that water on the left hand side
in in the beginning. 

655
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,000
And I don't know if that's 
because they couldn't get the 

656
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,880
approval without it or was 
people just made them put that 

657
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,080
back. 
But I love that there's some 

658
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,040
water now. 
But I think it looks even cooler

659
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,040
that it's not just water like 
it's cascading water and it 

660
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,320
looks like guys shooting up. 
There's waterfalls. 

661
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,240
It's like multi level water. 
I think it's going to be one of 

662
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,400
these things where, yes, I mean,
Jeff nailed it perfectly, is 

663
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:09,640
that you will miss that feeling 
and hearing the the horn, you 

664
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,560
know, that, you know, like 
you'll miss hearing that, like 

665
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,400
not being there. 
But I think it's going to be one

666
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,320
of these things when it's done 
and it's up and people's mouths 

667
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,200
drop open and they go like, I 
think it's going to be, I think 

668
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,840
it's going to fit in seamlessly.
So I think it's going to look 

669
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,800
great. 
I didn't really understand the 

670
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,800
first rendering that came out 
when it was first announced. 

671
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,320
Yeah, like what? 
It doesn't make any sense. 

672
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,920
But this new one, that picture 
looks. 

673
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Dope, I agree. 
Awesome. 

674
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Awesome. 
Well, there is a show building. 

675
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,720
And then I'll stop talking about
it about the the closing day. 

676
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,960
I think the people that are 
bothered the most, fans aside, 

677
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,560
are the cast members that work 
that island. 

678
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,520
So we went over and did the 
barrel bridge and for the first 

679
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,920
time in 50 years the lady even 
said there was a 10 minute line 

680
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,640
to walk across the bridge final.
Time. 

681
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,480
Like the thing wrapped all the 
way down to like the Fort, but I

682
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,360
was talking to the cast member 
that was standing there and she 

683
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,400
goes, I have worked this 
attraction for 12 years and it's

684
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,320
my home and I'm I don't know 
where I'm going to be stationed 

685
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,040
next, but I'm going to miss it. 
And so that kind of tugs at the 

686
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,840
heartstrings a little bit 
because I. 

687
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,560
Heard they're keeping the 
barrel. 

688
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
I heard they're keeping a barrel
bridge somewhere and it's in the

689
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,080
concept art. 
If you zoom in, if I, if I see 

690
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,800
it again, I might be able to. 
You want to put it up real quick

691
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,280
just to see if I can find it. 
I know it was there and somebody

692
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,400
said, look, the barrel bridge is
still being put somewhere. 

693
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,560
And I was like, wow, that's 
great. 

694
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,080
Yeah, if you let me see, I knew 
it was in the last concept art. 

695
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,160
If you look closely, you'll find
it somewhere. 

696
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,840
In any event, I heard they're 
keeping a barrel bridge on it. 

697
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,160
Somewhere Jeff, Jeff said it 
perfect too. 

698
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,680
Is that I, I think honestly, 
like people that will miss it 

699
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,960
are people with little kids. 
And I say that just because I 

700
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,720
watched a lot of those videos 
recently from Tom Sawyer Island 

701
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:05,080
and you just see it was the best
place to a kind of escape the 

702
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,880
crowds. 
If you have little kids like to 

703
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,720
go over there and just to have 
them run around and just go nuts

704
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:14,000
and climb and burn off some 
energy. 

705
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,160
I will always have a memory of 
my kids who are getting now 

706
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,560
we're 20 and 16. 
When they were super, super 

707
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,320
young, we sat and we played, I 
think three games of checkers, 

708
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,120
right? 
We sat and just played checkers 

709
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,880
like 3 games in a row. 
And that's a memory that they 

710
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,840
still talk about. 
So yeah, I think for people with

711
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,920
little kids are going to miss 
it. 

712
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,400
But then again, once you see 
this stuff that Paul's showing 

713
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,800
on the screen, you'd be like, I 
don't want to play checkers, I 

714
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,240
want to go on that ride. 
Well, and Tatum said the same 

715
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,280
thing when we told her we were 
going to go take video of the 

716
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,680
closing. 
She's like, I remember playing 

717
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,240
hide and seek on that when we 
were little. 

718
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,520
You know. 
And this is how the kind of week

719
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,000
that we've had is you had those 
pictures up and I and myself was

720
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,120
trying to zoom in myself on my 
own screen. 

721
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,520
Like it doesn't work that way 
it. 

722
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,400
Might it might be this piece 
that looks like behind this 

723
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,200
piece there's like a barrel 
bridge here I think. 

724
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,680
I'm not going to get overly. 
It was cool to go say goodbye. 

725
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:14,080
I'm not super heartbroken about 
it, but I can see why people are

726
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,760
so. 
I think the boat is what I miss 

727
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,880
the most. 
I hope that they put that 

728
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,680
somewhere or it goes somewhere 
that is special. 

729
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Like could they put it in Seven 
Seas Lagoon in some capacity? 

730
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,600
Is it seaworthy enough to 
actually be in there? 

731
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,120
I don't know. 
But it would be cool to just see

732
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,600
that thing like the think the 
olden days of Seven Seas Lagoon 

733
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,960
when you, you know, just have 
that. 

734
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,640
Don't even put people on it. 
Just have it just randomly just 

735
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,160
sailing across and. 
Have it out there rusting. 

736
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,400
Well, move it every once in a 
while, don't turn it into grand 

737
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,360
yacht one, which basically lost 
its motor during Covic and then 

738
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,160
they never could get it started 
again. 

739
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,560
They just pulled the whole thing
out. 

740
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,880
So they yeah, don't do that, do 
it, but. 

741
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,880
I heard it was going to be the 
new splash. 

742
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,080
I heard it was going to be the 
new splash pad at Fort 

743
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,720
Wilderness Cabins until the 
lawyers got involved. 

744
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,360
So. 
Or could you park it right 

745
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,000
outside of Grand Floridian and 
put a restaurant in it and make 

746
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,720
it something cool? 
That'd be cool. 

747
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,440
Could you tie that into Grand 
Floridian somehow? 

748
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,600
I don't. 
Or just keep it docked over on 

749
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,360
that side and make it a Tiana 
restaurant. 

750
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,400
They did that in Disney Springs 
with the seafood place pretty 

751
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,160
much. 
They changed it. 

752
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,280
They got rid of Fulton's. 
That was a gem. 

753
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,360
We used to love that. 
Yeah, we liked it. 

754
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,480
Yeah, the seafood tower was the 
best. 

755
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,320
I was reading through the 
concept information that was 

756
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,280
recently received on Piston 
Peak, as we're calling it Piston

757
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,320
Peak National Park. 
Derek, you mentioned the 

758
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,160
geysers. 
Do you know what they're called?

759
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Old tankful. 
Old tankful. 

760
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,760
I liked. 
It. 

761
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:57,120
And then the first original CARS
character which is coming Ranger

762
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,800
J Autobahn. 
Huh. 

763
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,440
That about sums it up. 
Yep. 

764
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,840
So more information coming on 
Cars Land, we'll see it. 

765
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Rumors about the ride itself are
very positive. 

766
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,240
That it has a show building, 
that there are many levels and 

767
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,800
that's that excites me. 
I like things that go inside, 

768
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,880
outside, up, down, around. 
It looks like it's going to be 

769
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,480
pretty major, so I'm happy about
that. 

770
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,240
I just need as long as they 
include this character, which my

771
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,000
friend Marissa got me many years
ago because I always complain 

772
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,720
there's never a Disney character
with the name Derek in it. 

773
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,520
And she for my birthday many 
many years ago happened to find 

774
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,320
this. 
This is the very famous Derek 

775
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:46,600
Williams from Cars. 
True fact. 

776
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Spell it the right way too for 
you. 

777
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,760
Wow. 
And they spelled it the right 

778
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,240
way, so as long. 
As it be DERICK here, yeah. 

779
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,160
Oh, none of that DERICK 
nonsense. 

780
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,120
No, it's Derek Derrick Williams,
and as long as he can spin 

781
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,080
around old tankful and Autobahn 
Gary or whatever his name is. 

782
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,360
Autobahn, Gary, He will forever 
be known as do you. 

783
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,800
Remember his Derrick character? 
I don't remember that. 

784
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,080
Oh. 
I don't recall that at all. 

785
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,640
Is it? 
I don't maybe. 

786
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,360
It was from one of the spin 
offs. 

787
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,120
Like all the like actual stuff 
on the back. 

788
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,400
So I don't think it's like a 
make your own Funko thing. 

789
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,800
I think it was. 
The filter. 

790
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,280
It was a. 
Very, very. 

791
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,080
That was a throwback. 
Yeah. 

792
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,840
Well, let's move away from cars 
now and talk about Disney 

793
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,000
Vacation Club trying to copy 
Summerfest, which is Welcome 

794
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Home Weeks which were started 
last year after we announced 

795
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,800
Summerfest and did our fun 
summer things. 

796
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,480
You know, maybe they stole the 
idea, who knows. 

797
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,600
But if you are going to be at 
any of the Disney Vacation Club 

798
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,360
properties or at Walt Disney 
World this summer, there is such

799
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,480
a long list of things that they 
are doing that are little 

800
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,480
special events. 
That is part of the Welcome Home

801
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,840
Weeks that they are doing. 
These start August 14th and run 

802
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,880
to September 16th. 
Couple highlights that I always 

803
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,400
like to point out, quick service
dining discount. 

804
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,600
So you get to have one mobile 
order that gives you a 20% off 

805
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,240
quick service dining discount. 
That's always, for me, one of 

806
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,640
the biggest benefits and one 
that I don't know why it doesn't

807
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,560
exist the rest of the year, but 
is always a big one. 

808
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,120
I think for families as part of 
welcome home weeks, there's some

809
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,000
other stuff like treat stops, 
special character meet and 

810
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,240
greets. 
There's a wine mixer. 

811
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,080
I mentioned the characters. 
Everglades Donuts is doing some 

812
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,800
special things this year with a 
special Welcome Home Week donut 

813
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,280
that they give out on certain 
dates. 

814
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:57,480
Dvcfan.com You can find a full 
laundry list of all the Welcome 

815
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,920
Home Weeks things. 
Did they do the 20% quick 

816
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,200
service last year? 
They did. 

817
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,880
Did we not use it? 
We did. 

818
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,400
What oh I don't remember does so
is there a certain time frame 

819
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,200
and is it automatically just 
added to your quick service 

820
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,480
order? 
Supposed to be. 

821
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,040
So if you get 1, is it one per 
person that's a member or one 

822
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,320
discount per membership? 
I don't work there. 

823
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,000
This is my. 
Favorite. 

824
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,320
I love it when you you would 
think per order things. 

825
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,920
These are the important 
questions. 

826
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Sandwiches excluded. 
Select quick service dining 

827
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,800
locations at Disneyland and Walt
Disney World, August 14th 

828
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,440
through the 16th. 
Members eligible for membership 

829
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,360
extras. 
Discount 2 days. 

830
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,200
The discount? 
No, that's a month. 

831
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,720
August 14th through August 16th.
September 16th. 

832
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,040
OK, he said. 
August 14th through 16th. 

833
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,720
Sorry, go to the website and 
there's details I would. 

834
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,520
Recommend getting your news from
literally anybody else, right? 

835
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,840
Now I don't even know what's 
happening right now. 

836
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,520
I'm just excited about the 
discount. 

837
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:15,800
They're doing the table service 
40% off as well. 

838
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Oh see, now that's exciting too.
It is available Mondays through 

839
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,240
Thursdays so we can go back to 
Hollywood and wine. 

840
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,640
Hey, let me get my goggles on so
I can see. 

841
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,000
I don't. 
Know why I said wine? 

842
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,040
Oh, it is the same restaurant 
you. 

843
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,640
Think you need some wine? 
Yeah. 

844
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,680
So it's basically the same 
restaurants as the annual pass 

845
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,200
one, but the dates are 
different. 

846
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,520
That's cool. 
Yeah, we can go get Turkey 

847
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,320
dinner at the Diamond Horseshoe.
Sign me up. 

848
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,320
Love a good Turkey dinner? 
40% off can't be that. 

849
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,920
Any other questions? 
Yeah, tell me about this wine 

850
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,400
mixer. 
Is it like Catalina wine? 

851
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,720
Mixer. 
Listen, somebody, oh, my boss, 

852
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,760
when I said we were going to 
Catalina Island, which we 

853
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,280
stopped at earlier this month, 
was like, is it the wine mixer? 

854
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,640
And I was like, what? 
And he had explained to me. 

855
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,280
And then I noticed when we 
posted our pictures in Catalina,

856
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,640
like 10 people asked me about 
the wine mixer. 

857
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,840
So I found a poster at Catalina 
that said we had just missed the

858
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,760
wine mixer. 
It was like the week before we 

859
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:25,960
were there. 
Wow. 

860
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:29,920
So what is the movie? 
Step Brothers. 

861
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,760
Step. 
Brothers, that's it. 

862
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,600
We missed it by a week. 
If you're around Catalina and 

863
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,280
asking about Welcome Home weeks 
for DVC, they're not there, it's

864
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,240
at Disneyland. 
It is 2 days, August 27th and 

865
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:49,440
September 10th from 4:00 to 5:00
PM at the Grand Californian 

866
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,080
Hotel in the Briza Courtyard. 
Wait, there's one at the Rainbow

867
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Reef at Aulani? 
There is there's more dates for 

868
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,680
that, August 20. 
August 27th. 

869
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,160
September 3rd. 
September 10th. 

870
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:05,920
Good night, Jeff. 
You'll take one for the team. 

871
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,120
I am very giving in that. 
Way OK, so there's no wine mixer

872
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,880
for us Floridians. 
We'll have to have our own. 

873
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:16,360
I love this one. 
Complimentary reusable shopping 

874
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:21,080
bag available if you stop by the
Gateway to Discovery Welcome 

875
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Home Center at Disney Springs or
the Golden Vine House at Disney 

876
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,680
California Adventure Park. 
That place is never open though,

877
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,480
so don't try to get. 
In plastic bag. 

878
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,360
A plastic bag. 
We've not seen it yet, but you 

879
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,960
know we can. 
We can be the best bag ever. 

880
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,360
Not. 
Plastic, because they don't have

881
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,720
those in California. 
It's a It's a canvas bag. 

882
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,160
I am excited about this. 
They did announce that they're 

883
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,800
going to do some open houses at 
Copper Creek for the newly 

884
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,560
refurbished rooms. 
Oh, that's cool. 

885
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:58,440
So the dates to be determined, 
that's all I have for. 

886
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,080
You they have a room first. 
Yeah, they do. 

887
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,720
There are a couple rooms 
finished so far, I've seen a 

888
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,280
couple pictures, some of the 
refurbishment stuffs. 

889
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,520
And only to get away from the 
topic that we are on, we are 

890
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,880
going to fully segue into this 
because I have refurbishment 

891
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,440
updates on on my agenda for 
tonight. 

892
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,960
So let's just move away from 
Welcome Home Weeks, please. 

893
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,760
The Copper Creek refurbishment 
is underway at the moment. 

894
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,560
They are adding Murphy beds as 
part of this. 

895
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,480
This is a soft goods 
refurbishment, so don't expect 

896
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,000
everything to change, just some 
smaller things. 

897
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,400
And as part of most soft goods 
refurbishments, they are adding 

898
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,040
the Murphy beds. 
I will add a little caveat there

899
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,080
because it does look like there 
are certain rooms similar to 

900
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,800
Boulder Ridge that cannot 
accommodate the Murphy bed. 

901
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,480
So there have been a couple 
pictures that have emerged of I 

902
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,160
think A2 bedroom at least that 
I've seen that they did not get 

903
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,120
the Murphy bed in there probably
because of the ceiling shape. 

904
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,520
You know, you name it, there's 
going to be reasons why in 

905
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,680
certain rooms they. 
Can't. 

906
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,080
And that's the case at every 
resort. 

907
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,280
You know there are some rooms at
Vero Beach that don't have them 

908
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,120
because the placement of a 
window, the shape of a wall, the

909
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,400
pitch of the roof. 
So you just have to know that to

910
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,000
the. 
Window. 

911
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,720
There's there's some really. 
No. 

912
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,760
Stop right there. 
Stop. 

913
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Right there. 
There are some really oddly 

914
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,760
shaped rooms in DVC. 
I don't, it's, I have a 

915
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,400
question. 
It's been a couple years since I

916
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,960
stayed at Copper, but I've seen 
some people make online comments

917
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,280
about that, have seen some of 
these things that are going on 

918
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,560
and they're all like, Oh my God,
hopefully less beige. 

919
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,800
Was there a lot of beige in the 
Copper Creek rooms? 

920
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:43,920
I don't. 
Remember that. 

921
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,440
Beige is like that complaint 
that everyone has right now and 

922
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,640
I don't understand it. 
Like what other color would you 

923
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,720
like him to paint? 
Like bright red, orange, 

924
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:57,560
chartreuse. 
Right, you're at a wilderness 

925
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,560
themed. 
Resort like. 

926
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,520
I personally think they should 
take Panda and Derek shirts and 

927
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,000
use those patterns for the 
walls. 

928
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,360
Look at us. 
The Trapper Keeper and the 

929
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,680
jungle. 
This looks like freshly cut 

930
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:17,120
grass I think. 
Yeah, I mean, I guess there is 

931
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,320
some beige. 
I have always loved the Copper 

932
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,000
Creek rooms. 
I think that some of the 

933
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,720
furniture there is absolutely, 
you know, spot on in terms of a 

934
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:26,800
theming. 
I love the dresser because 

935
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,080
there's like different size 
drawers and every drawer. 

936
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,360
Yeah, the artwork there. 
I, I have no complaints about 

937
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,920
Copper Creek and I just hope 
that the Murphy bed gets just as

938
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,160
much love and theming as Boulder
Ridge has. 

939
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,400
Because if you compare it to 
what they did at Grand 

940
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,560
Californian, they didn't even 
slap any artwork on the outside 

941
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,400
of that. 
And it just that doesn't. 

942
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,960
Yeah, let's talk about that for 
a second. 

943
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,800
OK. 
So we've had a lot of members 

944
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,120
reaching out to us asking us, 
will you please say something 

945
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,600
about the grand Cow 
refurbishment? 

946
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,880
And Paul did put out a couple of
articles, you know, saying, is 

947
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,120
this it, is there going to be 
more? 

948
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,600
Are there delays? 
Why isn't it finished? 

949
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,400
But we wanted to fully wait. 
I'm going to take this out 

950
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,400
really quickly so I can hear 
better. 

951
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,080
We wanted to fully wait until we
stayed there so that we knew for

952
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,200
sure, you know, like exactly, 
exactly what it looked like. 

953
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,520
It is done right. 
I'm pretty sure it's. 

954
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,320
Correct, that is fully. 
Completed. 

955
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,160
It's fully completed. 
There was no construction going 

956
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,040
on. 
We just stayed earlier this 

957
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,640
month for a little bit and yeah,
it's disappointing. 

958
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,960
So some of the things that you 
would expect even bare minimum 

959
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,920
from a soft goods refurb, and 
this was a hard goods, this was 

960
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,840
not a soft goods refurb. 
And we knew that. 

961
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,560
A lot of you knew that Grand Cow
was in desperate need of a 

962
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,840
refurb. 
It was getting very dated. 

963
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,320
A lot of the furniture was 
getting very old and scratched 

964
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,240
up and the carpet was worn and 
and if you look back on the DVC 

965
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:12,520
fan YouTube, you can see the 
tour that we did back in gosh, 

966
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,840
2022 and it just looks rough. 
So it was very, very much 

967
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,040
needed. 
But with that said, it's now 

968
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,200
done and it felt more like a 
soft goods refurb. 

969
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,320
They replaced the couch, the 
pull up couch with a Murphy bed,

970
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,040
but there's no artwork on it 
except for inside. 

971
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:38,880
They replaced the floor and put 
in a rug and I pretty much that 

972
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,640
was it, right? 
Paul I The bathroom remains 

973
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,720
completely unchanged. 
The kitchenette remains 

974
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:53,240
completely unchanged, the 
furniture, the coffee table, the

975
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:59,240
dresser, the end tables, the 
bed, all the same scratched up 

976
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:05,720
furniture that was there before.
So as an owner of Grand Cal, 

977
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:12,040
like I can see the frustration 
there of why did we get 

978
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,920
basically the lowest end of a 
hard goods refurb that was 

979
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,680
possible. 
And I don't, I don't know the 

980
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,440
answer to that. 
It's very disappointing. 

981
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,040
I've not done a deep dive in 
terms of the numbers, but 

982
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,840
something that I would love to 
get an answer to is you look at 

983
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,680
all of these resorts have a 
refurbishment reserve. 

984
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:38,280
So money from your annual dues 
goes into a budget to actually 

985
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:43,760
refurbish these rooms. 
Now that the cost to refurbish 

986
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,440
these rooms typically is far and
above and beyond whatever that 

987
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,120
is. 
So Disney does cover a portion 

988
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,960
of these refurbishments, but a 
large aspect of them are paid by

989
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,000
member dues. 
I would love to compare Bay Lake

990
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,440
Tower, what their reserve was 
before their refurbishment and 

991
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,640
what their reserve was after 
their refurbishment and see the 

992
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,320
basically the cost per room 
breakdown of what they did to 

993
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,040
those rooms compared to Grand 
California. 

994
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,560
Now you could argue construction
costs are maybe a little bit 

995
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,760
higher in California. 
You could argue multiple 

996
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,640
different things. 
But what you can't get around is

997
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,200
that they gutted those Bay Lake 
Tower rooms and at Grand 

998
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,800
Californian they. 
I left this picture up on 

999
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:39,400
purpose because we are here in 
2025 and what did they do for 

1000
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,640
extra charging? 
They put in an ihome device. 

1001
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,000
I think I was in. 
We're in college. 

1002
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000
College when we had an. 
Ihome. 

1003
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,080
Yeah, yeah. 
And I mean, this is so like 

1004
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,440
2009, I guess is when we were in
college. 

1005
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:03,160
But why are you laughing? 
Do you have? 

1006
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,840
Because I because I hear that 
the laserdisc player they 

1007
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,920
installed really. 
Really. 

1008
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,120
Quick. 
Well, and even to that, why are 

1009
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,720
they? 
Where's my kitchenette picture 

1010
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,760
that I had? 
Look at this. 

1011
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,560
They didn't even spring for a 
new coffee pot. 

1012
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,080
We got old Mr. Coffee. 
Where'd he go? 

1013
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,080
There he is. 
OK, bring him into the show. 

1014
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,960
Boom, look at that. 
Everybody's getting Keurigs. 

1015
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,400
Yeah, and we had to unplug it to
have charging. 

1016
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,720
This microwave that was there, 
there is lettering at the bottom

1017
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:45,200
of the microwave that is like 
wearing off. 

1018
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:48,720
Like that microwave has been 
there for a long time. 

1019
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,720
That tile is just. 
I don't know. 70s, it looks like

1020
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:56,600
the 70s. 
Yeah, my grandma had carpet that

1021
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,160
color. 
It looks like it looks like a 

1022
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,480
fresh roll of paper towel. 
I mean. 

1023
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,440
Got that going for us. 
So we did, and I'm not saying 

1024
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:13,240
the room looks terrible, but I'm
just really surprised that they 

1025
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:18,000
didn't at least replace some of 
those furniture pieces, among 

1026
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,200
other things, the, you know, the
bathtub, the shower, the tile 

1027
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,360
work, all that's all the same. 
We did do a room tour. 

1028
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,400
It has not come out yet, but it 
will be in the future. 

1029
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,840
And we show you everything. 
Explain what changed, what 

1030
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,960
didn't. 
Yeah, and all the details. 

1031
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,160
So. 
Really excited for the condo 

1032
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:44,280
association meeting in December 
when they are grilled about this

1033
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,920
refurbishment. 
So go ahead, Jeff. 

1034
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,320
Yeah, and it just, it only 
highlights that when it's right 

1035
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,960
next to the brand new shiny 
Disneyland hotel villas, which I

1036
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,040
stayed at for the first time, 
which are amazing. 

1037
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,120
They're so pretty on the inside.
And the Grand Calais, kind of 

1038
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,280
like the grand flow out here. 
It's supposed to be like the big

1039
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,800
one out in Disneyland. 
And I would be angry if I owned 

1040
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,760
there. 
Well, I'd be angry if I used my 

1041
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,880
points there and had a busted 
coffee table from 1972. 

1042
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:16,480
And my question is that, is that
intentional? 

1043
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:21,840
Are they intentionally under 
doing this renovation to sell 

1044
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,440
more Disneyland hoed? 
I know that's I mean that's 

1045
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,400
saying a lot, but I wouldn't be 
shocked because I mean, Derek, 

1046
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,640
you know, I wrote in the average
price blog in the Roefer report 

1047
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:40,440
resale market, I think sold 5 
grand Cal contracts in June and 

1048
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,080
how many got Roeford 5. 
So they're buying back Grand 

1049
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Cal, which means that I would 
assume that those sales agents 

1050
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,760
are just constantly having this 
discussion of like, well, I 

1051
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,120
like, I like this one more. 
It's the same thing like we 

1052
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,960
talked about on a previous show,
and I know you did like A blog 

1053
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,280
about it too, where it's the 
same thing at the Polynesian, 

1054
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,720
right? 
So they're touring the 

1055
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,160
Polynesian, they look around, 
they show them the Polynesian 

1056
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,480
rooms, but then they look over 
at the Grand Floridian and go, 

1057
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,240
what about that? 
I want to buy that instead. 

1058
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,520
Can I buy that instead? 
And that's why they're buying 

1059
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,160
back Grand Floridian contracts. 
So again, yeah. 

1060
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,400
You want your newest product to 
be like the, you know, the most 

1061
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,920
beautiful girl at the prom, you 
know, not like, whoa, who's she?

1062
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,560
Is she seeing anybody? 
I think I want to go with her 

1063
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,480
instead. 
And then and then maybe once 

1064
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,280
you, once you get up close and 
you're like, uh, that's a nasty 

1065
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,520
coffee table you got. 
So then you know. 

1066
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,960
Like what kind of date is Derek 
going on? 

1067
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,920
Wow, it's been a while. 
It's been in the dating pool. 

1068
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,360
You don't know what things were 
like back then. 

1069
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,760
But yeah, that's, that's a 
perfect point. 

1070
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,800
Perfect point. 
Because again, I'm sure a lot of

1071
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,240
people go, oh, well, I would 
love to. 

1072
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,320
So can I use my Disneyland 
points to stay at the Grand Cal?

1073
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,600
You know, of course they're 
going to say yes at seven months

1074
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,840
out without telling them. 
Well, if that's really where you

1075
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,920
want to stay, you better you got
to own points here. 

1076
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,680
Oh, really? 
Can I own points here? 

1077
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,160
And then you're down to Grand 
Cal wormhole. 

1078
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,120
So. 
Yeah. 

1079
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,560
Last things I'll say about 
refurbishment real quick because

1080
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,880
I know some people are wondering
about them, Animal Kingdom 

1081
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,800
Lodge, we know that construction
permits have been filed and they

1082
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,520
should hopefully be starting 
work on those this fall. 

1083
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,000
So that is when the Kadani 
portion of the refurbishment 

1084
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,320
full hard goods refurbishment is
starting. 

1085
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,880
We have not gotten any real 
news. 

1086
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,120
There was one or two 
construction permits for 

1087
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,960
specific treehouse villas at 
Saratoga Springs, but we've not 

1088
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,880
seen any massive permits filed. 
Those are due to be refurbished 

1089
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,960
this year. 
Not really heard anything about 

1090
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,760
those just yet. 
And then Bay Lake Tower Bay Lake

1091
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,120
is what I would say probably 
around 75% complete. 

1092
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,520
It is fully on track. 
Please do not let any of those 

1093
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,960
click baity news articles out 
there tell you that it's delayed

1094
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,720
for another year. 
Don't even get me started. 

1095
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,280
Nothing affected the 
refurbishment of Bay Lake Tower 

1096
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,280
that is scheduled still to be 
completed in September or 

1097
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,800
October of this year. 
Other amenity refurbishments 

1098
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,720
around Bay Lake Tower or around 
Contemporary in general? 

1099
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,400
Yes, those have been pushed out 
a little bit further but the 

1100
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,120
room refurbishment, it looks to 
be fully on schedule and I would

1101
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,800
say that you have a good 75% 
chance at this point of getting 

1102
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,760
a refurbished room unless you 
are really unlucky then don't 

1103
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,320
gamble and stay somewhere else 
and wait until next year for 

1104
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,920
your Bay Lake Tower. 
But the refurbishment is what's 

1105
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,360
your? 
Schedule. 

1106
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,400
Schedule for Jambo House. 
Was that on a show that I missed

1107
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,560
because I didn't hear you say 
that? 

1108
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,680
Yeah. 
So Jambo is actually early 2026.

1109
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,160
So they will finish Kadani fully
and then move to Jambo. 

1110
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,880
I think that's just because they
can do more of the rooms at 

1111
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,120
Kidani. 
That entire building is all DVC.

1112
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,360
When they move to Jambo house, 
they're only affecting 2 floors 

1113
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,280
worth of rooms so that I think 
it's the thought process that. 

1114
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,000
They both do. 
They both do, and it'll be 

1115
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,680
interesting to. 
See, I haven't seen they. 

1116
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,480
Go in hopefully not any tan 
colors because you know people 

1117
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,960
with pitchforks will be after 
them. 

1118
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,920
So chartreuse please. 
Thank you. 

1119
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,160
Magenta. 
Any colors? 

1120
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:30,000
I guess last but not least on 
this list tonight, the new 

1121
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,600
Disney Starlight Parade is 
scheduled to begin here very, 

1122
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,840
very soon. 
We are super excited. 

1123
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,280
I think a lot of us have Park 
Pass reservations for the night 

1124
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,560
that it starts. 
It is going to debut on July 

1125
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20th, 2025. 
I know Jeff's going to be there.

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01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,640
I know we're going to be there. 
I don't know about Derek or 

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01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,960
Panda. 
Panda's going to be there. 

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01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,920
Yes, OK, won't be there. 
That's the night we're at Epic 

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01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,840
Universe. 
Oh yeah, we knew that. 

1130
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,360
I'm really bummed. 
I'm really bummed. 

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01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,920
In fact. 
I thought about leaving Epic to 

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01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,440
come down and watch it, but 
that's. 

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01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,040
Just silly. 
Don't do that. 

1134
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,480
That's just silly. 
That is silly. 

1135
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:12,640
Yeah, the parade. 
No spoilers, I have cast member 

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01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,960
friends that have seen the 
floats backstage and they're 

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01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,360
telling me they look fantastic, 
so I am hopeful. 

1138
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,440
That's good to hear because I 
feel like Disney is being very 

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01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,440
quiet about it. 
And normally when Disney's quiet

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01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,200
about something, that does not 
bode well for it. 

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01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,800
It's like when you know. 
How? 

1142
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,880
To like Elio, that's going to 
flop. 

1143
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,440
Yeah, yeah. 
So. 

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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:42,480
I also heard the music is 
fantastic so I'm I'm still 

1145
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,240
hopeful that maybe they don't 
know what they got. 

1146
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,440
Cool. 
Yeah. 

1147
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,600
We're excited. 
To see it last on our news list 

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01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,560
is something that I don't know 
that many of us had had an 

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01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,880
opportunity to see yet. 
But the new shows at Hollywood 

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01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,440
Studios. 
Jeff, you were just there this 

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01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,920
week, weren't you? 
Yeah, when I found out that we 

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,520
were filming them or talking 
about this, I made Amy run over 

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01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,160
this week. 
I landed in Utah on my birthday 

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01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,720
and I'm like, come on, we got 
work to do. 

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01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,640
So we're actually, we did a 
video about that too, about the 

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01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,800
new voyage of The Little Mermaid
show and villains unhappily Ever

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01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,640
after. 
No spoilers. 

1158
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,200
Thoughts. 
Initial thoughts. 

1159
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,480
I I know that this group in this
room is not the demographic for 

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01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:28,480
villains. 
It's not. 

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01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,640
This is a show geared for kids. 
I loved it. 

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01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,320
I thought it was great. 
So no curmudgeon on my shoulder 

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01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,800
today. 
Is it cheesy? 

1164
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,240
Yes. 
Is it not scary? 

1165
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,680
Absolutely not. 
Is it a? 

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01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,200
Win for the people that they're 
going after 100%. 

1167
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,720
It gives young children an 
introduction to these villains 

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01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,240
that they might not otherwise 
get. 

1169
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,240
So I, I have no, I think the 
theater is gorgeous. 

1170
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,280
I think the special effects that
they do and the screens, I think

1171
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,440
it's great. 
I, it, I'm not going to go to it

1172
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,440
every time, but I'm not the one 
that's supposed to be going to 

1173
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,640
it every time. 
So I I'll call it a win. 

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01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,880
The Little Mermaid is, I didn't 
feel like it was that different 

1175
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,520
than the one before. 
It's fine. 

1176
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:18,800
But there's one weird thing 
about the villain show. 

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01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,200
It's weird to me now where 
Disney is drawing the line 

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01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,760
between face characters and 
costumed characters. 

1179
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,880
Because as long as Disney's been
around, Captain Hook has been a 

1180
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,040
costume character and so is 
Jafar. 

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01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,480
And now to have them be face 
characters with makeup on, it's 

1182
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:41,880
very unnerving. 
But it was, I thought it was a 

1183
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,040
good show. 
It was good. 

1184
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,480
One of my favorite childhood 
memories is going to the Aladdin

1185
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,320
Breakfast, which I think was at 
Hollywood Studios. 

1186
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:55,400
Oh my God, yes. 
So it was a character breakfast 

1187
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,640
and the characters come around 
and I have an autograph book 

1188
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,600
somewhere that has Jafar's 
signature. 

1189
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,080
And Jeff, to your point, not 
only was he a face character, 

1190
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,840
but he had fake hands. 
He had these fake plastic hands.

1191
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,560
And the hand was like, wait. 
He was a he was a face character

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01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,840
or a costume. 
He was costumed, he was fully 

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01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,880
costumed. 
So he had, he had a full thing 

1194
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,160
on and then fake hands. 
The the hands are what we're 

1195
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,120
going to emphasize because I had
him sign an autograph and the 

1196
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,440
hand can't hold a pen. 
So he dropped the pen like 5 

1197
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,560
times and he has to sign 
autographs like moving his whole

1198
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,760
arm rather than moving the hand.
And I this is this is like the 

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01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,360
childhood memory that is 
ingrained in my head. 

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01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,680
Paul, do you remember a big 
staircase with the lamp at the 

1201
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,760
top with some special effects? 
Oh yeah. 

1202
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,200
OK, I'll make it from my memory 
because I do remember that. 

1203
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,320
That was a cool thing, yeah. 
Yeah, it was a cool. 

1204
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,600
I loved the character breakfast 
and I was a huge Aladdin kid 

1205
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,360
growing up. 
So plastic hands. 

1206
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,160
There you go. 
Nice. 

1207
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,000
I'm going to go online and I'm 
going to go online and order 

1208
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,040
Jafar's plastic hands for 
Summerfest just so I can freak 

1209
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,600
people out. 
So that you can sign up. 

1210
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,640
With Jafar's walking, when 
Jafar's walking in the parade, 

1211
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,080
you can see those hands and you 
could see how they are 

1212
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,360
completely, you know, 
prosthetics. 

1213
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,680
They're great though. 
Derek's going to be eating fried

1214
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,760
chicken with this prosthetic 
hand at Hoop Dee Doo. 

1215
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,480
Really hope you get caught up on
stage for that. 

1216
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,520
That'll be great. 
Well, that is going to do it for

1217
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,920
this week's episode of the DVC 
Show. 

1218
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:36,360
I think we have discussed no 
news way too much because none 

1219
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,040
of this should have been talked 
about for an hour, but somehow 

1220
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,600
we talked about it for an hour 
and 10 minutes basically. 

1221
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,960
So let us know your thoughts on 
these topics or any other news 

1222
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,440
going on in the Disney and DVC 
space. 

1223
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,560
We read your comments, we 
respond to your comments. 

1224
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,160
We love your comments. 
And if it's something where you 

1225
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,840
hate us about something, you can
guarantee that Derek's going to 

1226
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,280
send it to us because we love 
those as well. 

1227
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,320
So, but that's going to do it 
for this week's episode of the 

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,680
DVC show. 
Hey, Jeff, happy birthday and. 

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01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,000
Happy birthday, Jeff. 
Next Monday.