We find any excuse whatsoever to celebrate and for those of you
that didn't know, on July 4th, you might have been celebrating
America, but we were celebrating Jeff Haslam.
Happy birthday, Jeff. Guys.
For belated birthday. I had a hat.
I had a hat ready and I forgot. Happy birthday.
Nuts and Derrick, you didn't have a hat.
He lost his stuff. I I had a little noisemaker and
I had like a little party hat. And then I frantically looked
around the house and I was trying to find it.
And then I went to my backpack and I go, he's getting a bucket
hat. So that's why, that's why it
looks so good. It holds it.
Looks like on on Golden Pond you're my knight and shining
arm. Looked like that Lady from the
Hee Haw show that had that price tag on her hat.
Yes. Mini fro.
All right, that's my head. Happy birthday, Jeff.
Hey everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of the DVC
Show. I'm your host, Paul Krieger.
Amy doesn't know what to do with the party had after she's taken
it off. That's my wife, Amy Krieger.
Hello. We've got John Sicari, Big fat
Panda with us. Excited to be back.
Thank you. We've got sales associate,
Senior sales associate for the DVC resale market, Derek de
Boer. Hey now, happy Monday everybody.
And in the honor of Panda's grand return, I've got my famous
Trapper Keeper shirt on just for him and for Jeff's birthday.
So it's a 1-2 punch. Birthday boy himself 25 years
young. Jeff Haslam.
Yeah, this has been the weirdest birthday ever.
Thanks. Well, hey everybody, how are we
doing? We got the whole band back
together for once. It's nice.
Yes, Panda, how you doing? You.
Guys have been everywhere. I've been through the the
wringer. My, my dental stuff is coming to
an end. I still got like 3 more visits,
but I, I heard your show where you're like, I would not come on
and smile with the way I looked. It was kind of I shocked myself.
I broke a few mirrors. Well, we're happy you're back.
Everyone was asking about you in the comments and yeah, we're all
here and we're we're talking news this week, although I feel
like it's kind of like news, minor level news or mid level
news. There's nothing really super
exciting that is on the docket. But I think all of us have a
couple things to say about all these topics.
So if you've been living in a hole or a cave and not paid
attention to what's been going on in the DVC space or the
Disney space for a while, some of this might be interesting to
you. At least our opinion should be
before we get into it. This and all of our DVC fan
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Mickey's not so scary Halloween party and soon Mickey's very
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I was at least asked to provide some photos of Jollywood nights,
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So those are going to be discounted on
unlockmagic.com/DVC Fan. There you go.
Any other props you got Derek? Yeah, I think I found a picture
of Panda before he got his teeth fixed.
Oh God, what in the world is that?
That's from Stranger Things, isn't it?
I have multiple questions like why does Derek have it I have?
Everything on my desk, I'm I've I've got this.
I've got it's like a Buddha, Chewbacca.
I have that one. I'm glad.
I'm thank you. Thank you for sparing me, Derek,
because you could have said that reminded me of you.
See. Look how svelte the Demi Gordon
is. See.
That's you. I am so glad I.
Don't have my glasses on. Yeah, you are the.
Buddha the Buddha Chewbacca is kind of cool.
Let us see that again. See.
Look how cool that is. I.
Apologize in advance for the audio listeners out there there,
you know, if you if you did goo, if you do go on Spotify, I do
upload a video version of the show.
I don't know if anyone watches it that way, but there you go.
You get to see all the fun behind the scenes stuff.
All right. Are we done?
Yep, that's it all right. We'll see you next Monday.
That'll be good. Good night everyone.
First piece of news I wanted to touch on is something that we
did a live stream a couple weeks ago on.
It is kind of the rental update. Many of you probably are aware
by now that Disney Vacation Club did update some policies related
to renting DVC points. The big thing that I think is
worth noting here is that all that has changed is there a
little check box when you actually book a reservation
online that says do you agree that this reservation is for
personal use and agree to the terms and conditions?
The same question is asked if you are booking on the phone or
if you are modifying a reservation or making any
changes to a reservation in the online chat.
Outside of that, nothing has changed.
And I think the big take away that most people need to
understand is that renting DVC points is still fully allowed.
All of the governing documents that you are given when you
actually become a Disney Vacation Club member, none of
those have changed. So they are specifically
cracking down on what they call commercial renting.
If you go on Facebook groups or other online communities and you
see all of these spec reservations for sale, those are
the individuals, those types of members.
That's really what Disney Vacation Club has targeted this
and no updates have been really provided since that live stream
that I did several weeks ago. So go back, watch that live
stream if you have other questions regarding the rental
updates that have happened. But for the average person that
is renting out some points that they're not going to use year
after year, nothing has changed, you know?
And if there is more information to report, we will definitely
let you know. I know this community really
hasn't had an opportunity to chime in on any of that.
Any thoughts or? I just comments.
I just want to kind of drive home the fact that DVC is giving
us 2 definitions that they haven't really clearly defined
all of them, but we have personal use and commercial use.
If you are not someone who is renting an excess amount of
points, then you are renting personal use.
It is not commercial use. Paul and I, we rent some of our
points probably every year because to.
Cover some of the annual dues. To cover some of our annual,
annual dues, we own Grand Californian points and we don't
always to go out to Grand Californian, but you have to own
there if you want to stay there. But you know what, we get it out
there like every other year, maybe every three years.
So in the meantime, we rent those points when we can't use
them or if we're taking a cruise.
Sometimes we rent our points to put towards other vacations,
which is the flexibility of DVC. We are not commercial renters.
We are personal use, renting our points, you know, for the things
that we need so that we don't lose value in them.
So I think that's important to drive home that that is personal
use. Yeah.
Well, and I just wanted to chime in too, because I think there
was a lot of miscommunication when this first went out.
And in true Disney fashion, they like to do a drive by, They'll
just drop information and then, you know, run it past and then
never say anything about it again, right?
But there was a lot of people in the Facebook group wondering,
oh, what's going to happen to DVC Rental store?
Oh my gosh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I think it's important for people to note that DVC Rental
Store is not like sitting on a bunch of points that they're
renting out. They're a broker in essence,
just like a real estate broker. They're matching somebody that
has points with somebody that needs points.
They're not just like sitting on 2000 points renting them to
whoever wants them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but
they're, they're the middle man. They're, they're making sure
that the, the, everything goes smoothly, that everybody's
protected on both sides, that the reservations are made and
not changed. And, you know, that the dues are
actually paid so that the reservation doesn't get
cancelled, all those kinds of things.
And I think that was a big misconception for people, you
know, in our community, in our group.
Yeah, I agree. They're an intermediary instead
of, you know, the actual renter. And I gave this disclaimer on
the actual live stream that we did.
But again, I work for DVC Rental Store, I am the member relations
manager for DVC Rental Store. So I do have a vested interest
in all of this. And I do understand a lot about
renting. So we are approaching it from
that mindset. I did not pay Amy to say nice
things. I might have paid Jeff to say
nice things. You never know.
But, you know, I think do your research, realize the risk
associated with it if you think there is one.
But there's so many communities out there that have been talking
about this and the general take away has just been like, yeah,
it's nothing new. There are some bad players in
this market, honestly, one that Jeff, to your point gives some
of these intermediaries a bad name.
One of the best, one of the best kind of summaries of that that
I've heard is Len Testa and Jim Hill.
If you listen to the Disney Dish podcast, Len did a deep dive
when all of this came out and he said, you know, there are people
that are doing this the correct way and he used DVC Rental Store
for an example and he talked about spec reservations,
confirmed reservations. So for DVC Rental Store, we view
confirmed reservations as you have no other option or you have
a stay booked and it's last minute and you're trying to rent
out that stay or you've decided that you cannot travel on that.
We allow members to list their confirmed reservations with us,
but we do specifically advise them that it should fall into
one of these packets. If you are doing it for another
reason, then that's really outside of the realm of why you
should be booking what we would call a confirmed reservation.
So anyhow, Lentesta did a did a summary and I think at the time
we had somewhere between 2:00 to 300 confirmed reservations
listed. There is another rental company
out there, not going to use their name, but there's another
rental company that has somewhere near 7 times as many
confirmed reservations out there.
In my opinion, that does go against what renting your points
is supposed to be because you're taking active inventory away
from other members that actually want to stay in those rooms.
The last thing I'll say, and then I'll let Panda or Derek
chime in if they have anything to say about it.
But those of you that have historically complained about
this impacting the ability to book a vacation, I don't want to
sit here and sort of say set set an unreasonable expectation for
you. I don't think that's going to
change. Even if they do continue to
crack down on this, those hard to get rooms or those hard to
get times are always going to be hard and that is regardless of
what is happening in the rental market.
So while I think yes, it contributes to it and I think
hopefully there is a little bit of a crackdown on these large
scale commercial renters that you know outside of that it's
still going to be challenging to get those specific.
Rooms At the end of the day, DVC is designed to be at 100% cast
capacity. I'm sorry I can hear myself
echoing and I this makes me sound worse.
It's, it's designed to be 100% capacity and they sell exactly
the amount of points that they have.
You know what I mean? They have this many rooms and
this many points per night and they add that up and that's
exactly what they sell that many points.
So it's 100%, you know, a sold out resort is 100% of the points
have been sold. And so members are going to use
those points and they're not going to lose their value for
them. Yep.
Yes, and and I think so, which is Paul, I'm so glad that you
mentioned that too, that it's not like people are going to see
a huge change. It's not like people are going
to go online at seven months out with their Saratoga Springs
points and say, Oh my God, I was able to get the first week of
December at Copper Creek. It was so easy for me to be able
to get that. It's not like that's going to
happen. Even if you own those resorts,
those reservations are still important for you to get on at
that, you know, 11 month mark if that's when you want to go.
So it's not like it's just everything is going to open up
and Boardwalk's going to be easy to get during food and wine
festival and Beach club's going to be so much easier.
It's not. But I think it's important to
note that, you know, even since this announcements happen, I've
I've had folks that fell into just about every single bucket
Paul and have zero issues, you know, whether they went to go
Paul, we, you know, Derek, I have a reservation that we can't
take. Can the DVC rental store help
me? Boom.
They were able to help them. There was no issues.
There was no questions asked. I've had people then have to
make a reservation that that they weren't able to go with
their family, but they were able to send another family member or
a friend to be able to book it. They were not going to be there.
There was 0 issues when they were doing that.
So whether they were being compensated or whether they
were, you know, just making a reservation for friends and
family, I've had zero people tell me that they've had any
issues whatsoever. Yeah.
And in terms of all of this, we will continue to kind of update
you along the way if there are any substantial changes.
If Disney does crack down on any of these commercial renters, I'm
sure we will hear about it on the DVC fan Facebook group or
DIS boards or other online communities.
And it is something that we're monitoring closely.
But for most people, and, and this is the other thing that I
always say is that we are a very educated small corner of the
Disney Vacation Club space. You know, we represent only
maybe 5% of all members, if that most members aren't even
thinking about this. Most people are probably
listening to this show and going, I didn't even know
anything changed. I always just click the box and
don't read about it or I just say yes if someone asks me a
question about terms and conditions.
What's funny, Paul, I and everybody here, I'm sorry.
I used to work for a competing company filming rooms and I
remember like every two years and I worked for them for quite
a while. They there's something would
come out from Disney to make people worried and it was never
anything. It was just like this where it
was kind of like, like like Jeff said, they do a drive by and you
know, see what happens, but. Well, and if you're in any
position like Derek and I like, who has points leftover to rent
anyway? Right.
That's that's what cracks me up as I sit here waiting till
October 1st so I can borrow from October 1st of 2026.
Waiting. It's like an actual holiday in
my house that October 1st Boom. I'm borrowing from 2026.
That's awesome. I had I had two points to bank
2. Really, 2 for anyone.
And for anyone out there thinking that I can help you
rent the two points that you're going to lose in three months.
I cannot, I'm sorry. Just let them go like Elsa, you
know, just let it go there. You can't do anything with two
points unless you bank them and then you could use them next
year. So good call Panda.
I'm moving on cabin. You might be able to get a
cabin. Yeah, moving on.
Speaking of cabins, we're moving to Fort Wilderness with the next
piece of news, which came out of nowhere.
But we know that they've been doing a lot of construction over
there recently, and that is that a new pool is being constructed
over at Fort Wilderness. This will actually be next to
the Meadow swimming pool. And I'm not sure if essentially
they're expanding this area or if they're just going to do kind
of a swap and replace. I would kind of lean towards
expansion, but they are actively working on this as we speak.
It is going to be a zero entry pool.
There's going to be some expanded deck space along the
existing Meadow swimming pool. So that answers my question
right there. If I'd read my own article, I'd
maybe I'd know more. But a big question that's come
up about this is what does that relate to Disney Vacation Club
members? What does that impact DVC
members that own at the Fort Wilderness cabins?
And I think it's worth mentioning that when we did all
of our research on Fort Wilderness about a year ago or
two years ago at this point when it was first being talked about,
we found out that the other pool that is at Fort Wilderness is
actually the pool that was rolled into the DVC Association.
So this is actually I forget the other pools.
Name. It's smaller.
Yeah, I forget. It does have a specific name,
the Wilderness swimming pool, I think it is, and it is a smaller
pool. It is closer to the cabins, but
that is actually part of the DVC association at Fort Wilderness.
The Meadow swimming pool area is more of a universal product for
those staying at the cabins, those staying in a camper, those
staying at the campgrounds, all of those resort amenities.
But it does raise the question, why are they building another
pool here? Because you could argue the
capacity of the resort has not changed.
Go ahead, Banda. No.
You think they're doing it because of the new resort that's
coming with that amazing pool and they just want to give
somebody something over here. So that you can not be staring
over the fence at the amazing pool and just be like, oh, we
gave you this, here you go is a yeah, yeah, yeah, just a little
yeah, yeah, yeah. So Lakeshore Lodge I think is
the question mark when it comes to why they are doing this.
There are questions being asked. Is Lakeshore Lodge going to be
rolled into that Palmetto Trust? That association or trust group
that the cabins were the first resort to be rolled into And if
they put that in with the cabins, then does two things.
First, it shares the amenities across both properties.
It gives you that same 7 to 11 month at both Lakeshore Lodge
and at the Fort Wilderness cabins.
The biggest benefit though is annual dues.
It would hopefully significantly decrease the annual dues for for
Fort Wilderness cabins. Which I think would really help
with sales overall of this area because we know that Fort
Wilderness cabin sales have struggled and Lakeshore Lodge is
a large resort. It should be able to absorb a
lot of annual dues. And by bundling those two
together, I think it helps both. It's just it they complement
each other very well, leaving them separate.
Panda, to your point then yes, Fort Wilderness is going to be
like the ugly stepchild of Lakeshore Lodge next door, and I
don't know that a new pool even helps that.
But curious on your guys's thoughts.
Well, I, I said when we were first, when they first announced
this, the, the Fort Wilderness as becoming DVC, I think I said
something along the lines of all they're doing is replacing the
mobile homes. They're not adding any
additional pools or infrastructure or some of those
things to give it that deluxe, you know, feel that we're used
to in in a DVC villa. So I think as long as the pool
is nice, like you said, the one that is part of the association
is, is really, really small, but it's kind of like the the tree
house pool. It's there as an afterthought.
If they actually build a feature pool, I think that's going to
probably help a little bit. I mean, it's not going to knock
the sails out of the park by any means, but it needed something a
little extra, something a little DVC pizazzy, a little.
I don't know. I don't know if zero entry is
enough, but. No.
At least it's something I guess is what the bottom line ends up
being. If you heard that grumbling, no
in the background, that was Derek.
Kind of forgot how sensitive these mics are.
So you said no. Why?
No, I, I just think they have to make this part of the same
association. So when they go to start selling
Lakeshore Lodge, that hey, I own Lakeshore Lodge.
I can also book one of these cabins.
I can also book a regular room at, you know, Lakeshore Lodge, a
studio, one bedroom, 2 bedroom, whatever it is that they're
having. I have access to all the pools
at both resorts, all the amenities at both resorts.
I think if they don't, if they literally just sell, you know,
OK, here's Lakeshore Lodge, or you could buy one of the cabins,
one of the trailers next door. I just can't fathom.
I mean, those things don't sell now, let alone if you put up a
beautiful which looks huge. I keep seeing people post
pictures of this place and I'm like, my God, I forget how big
Lakeshore Lodge is going to be. No one's going to buy the cabins
like ever. No one will ever buy them.
But I think if you add them to Lakeshore Lodge, I think it
gives Lakeshore Lodge even an extra little, you know, oomph,
like, hey, you have these beautiful state-of-the-art, you
know, typical DVC accommodations.
But hey, if you want to rough it a little bit and go sleep in the
swampy marsh with panda, then you could book one of the
cabins. So that to me they have to make
it the same, the same association they have to.
I I think it does it. Take away from the swampiness.
Does it take away? No, the death and destruction is
still there, and you can be nice and cozy in your cabin and look
out and watch it, all of it happen.
No, no, let's. Be honest we're we're talking
about a lot of amenities that as far as I know the cabins don't
have fitness center. Is there even a freestyle
machine to refill your refillable mug anywhere over
there? I have no idea.
There is you know, I just there's a lot of these DVC that
we're used to that the cabins just you can only put lipstick
on a pig so much it's. So muddy and swampy.
You really don't need the fitness center.
I mean your your thighs are getting the workout just walking
around the March. Def have you been in one yet?
No, but Summerfest in a month from tomorrow.
I want to know your thoughts after Summerfest.
OK, Speaking of DVC Summerfest, August 8th through the 10th,
it's coming up real, real fast. Less than a month from when this
airs, we will actually be celebrating Summerfest.
We are going to be doing kind of a monorail bar crawl, so to say,
on Friday night. So if you're in the area, make
sure you head to the DVC fan Facebook group so that you get
all the information on where we're going to be when.
And then on Saturday, we will be doing a live stream from the
cabins. No one can attend the live
stream. There's a, there's a capacity
limit to our cabins. So we will all be in a cabin and
we will go live and share it with you all that can't join us
that day. And then later that day we are
actually doing a group Hoop Dee Doo event.
And just want to say huge shout out to our DVC fan Patreon
community. And for everyone that bought
tickets to that event, we had 50 tickets available.
We sold them out in 2 days. We didn't even get to kind of a
general registration because so many people were interested in
joining us for that. So we're going to meet up a
little bit before that event and hang out, have some drinks, and
then we're going to enjoy Hoop Dee Doo on Saturday, Sunday,
we've got an exclusive meet up for our Patreon community that
morning. And then we're going to be in
Magic Kingdom for the rest of the day just kind of hanging out
and taking in all of the sights of Magic Kingdom, having some
fun. So hope to see you there for
Summerfest. And then also, if you can't make
us for that, Oktoberfest is coming October 17th through the
19th, and that will be at Disney's Old Key Jeff Resort,
and we're going to have some fun.
I actually just ended a phone call a couple hours ago about
talking about some fun events that we can do for that, some
exclusive opportunities. So nothing to announce yet, but
there's some stuff in the work, some cool stuff.
And why we're talking about this, you know, I'm not going to
give any spoilers, but you're going to want to tune into that
live show. Jeff might have a surprise to
share. Are you there?
Are you talking about? Oh, I think I know what you're
saying. I have no idea.
I know. Absolutely no idea.
He mentioned, he mentioned something to me when we went out
with us and our lovely better halves to Universal Citywalk to
go see a comedian and we were out.
We had a great time. It was so much fun.
And I think he said like 37 times, like, you're not going to
believe what I have, You're not going to believe what I have.
Is Nikki Glacier coming to the event?
Can we spend that on social media, please?
We'd get more people. That'd be great.
There's no hoop to do ticket for Nikki.
Sorry, sold out. I got us a golf cart, by the
way. Well, Amy did, because she
waited on hold with Disney to get us a golf.
Cart Yeah, the six seaters were sold out.
Yeah, so Panda, we're going to strap you to the roof in a chair
and you're just going to. I totally forgot like.
In Edna from vacation. There might still be 4 seaters
available. The six seaters are definitely
gone, Jeff, and you'll be reprimanded on the phone
verbally for not booking sooner. They did tell me that.
I better call tomorrow. Don't worry, we'll just drag you
back and forth. We'll just be like a.
Shuttle. It'll, yeah, it'll be a shuttle
to wherever we're headed. It'll take us an hour to get
there because I'll have to drive back and forth three times, but
we'll make it there anyhow. Yeah, we're going to hang out.
We're going to have some fun. It's going to be a good time.
I don't even know what this show is about anymore.
We're still on Fort Wilderness and we're like 35 minutes into
the show. Hey, when does Test Track
reopen? Probably by the time this show
goes live. It actually is reopening on July
22nd. Cast member previews have been
ongoing, Annual pass holder previews are coming up.
Actually they will have started by the time this have has gone
up and Jeff will have rode test track by the time this has gone
up and calendar. Has already we have.
Your annual pass holders on Sunday so.
Yeah, yeah, Pan, I wrote. It yesterday, yeah.
No spoilers. I will say it's the best version
of the ride so far in my opinion.
I expected a little bit more based on how long it was down,
but I like it. I'm happy with with what I saw.
I still spoil anything for the spoiling people.
You did. You write it, Derek.
No, absolutely not. I have not done it.
But the day that the first YouTube videos popped up, of
course I was down. So I've I watched every one of
those YouTube videos. I again will not give any
spoilers out, but I can tell you as long as you set your
expectations and I think this is what Panda's problem was.
The ride track itself has not changed at all, so it's still
the same. I expected out of a Tronics,
that's what I expected because of world of motion so.
Yeah, I think. Yeah, I know.
And. You did.
You did hear about the crash, right?
Oh yeah, yeah. OK, it wasn't a big deal, but it
was. I mean, sounds cool, yeah.
Yeah, it's it's hard to, it's hard to talk about it without
giving away any. Spoilers, I have not watched
anything. I think it look, I think it
looks great. I still prefer I think of test
track the first version out of all of them.
I like this one the the middle 1.
You could completely do away with the last one, the Tron,
with the, you know, bad video game lighting.
Yes, terrible. Yeah, it was bad.
Terrible, terrible. So I I think this one is a huge
improvement with a little bit of the mix of the world of motion
and actual physical sets, which made me excited to see verse,
you know, screens and all that. There was actual physical sets,
which is cool. So.
Panda, am I correct that we no longer build our own car as part
of this new version? Correct.
And you know what? It's not missed at all, or at
least by me, because it was just, it didn't matter.
You built it and you were excited about it and it it
didn't matter. So I'm glad they got rid of
that. Down the line because people
wanted to finish their cars before they got on the thing.
I'm like, it doesn't matter if it's blue or yellow, your car's
the same car as everybody else's.
See, I went through it like once, totally.
And then like, didn't do it for years, but it's still like that
one that I did was always linked to my magic band.
So if I touched it right before I got on, I always had this
really old car that I designed like 6 or seven years ago.
It was great. I mean, it was it was fun and
some people are going to miss that.
Kids I think are going to miss the creation, but it just, it
was a bottleneck. But like once, once you did it
just like Jeff said, once you did it once and then you went
back. It's like having to watch the
three Guardians pre shows. You're like, oh God.
Yes, again, yes. Designing it and you're doing
your finger over the screen and you're picking up like 18
different diseases from everybody on the screen.
OK, I'm done. No.
It's gross. I don't like touching the
screen. Yeah.
All right. Well, new test track.
Let us know in the comments what you think if you've had the
opportunity to ride it. We have not ridden it.
We will be on it maybe in a few weeks, maybe once it opens, I
don't know. We don't really have plans to
go. Do we think so?
I was looking at the the dates that they allowed for DVC and
for annual pass holders and they specifically blocked out the one
day that Moonlight Magic happens to be at Epcot.
Like that is not any previews at all that day for anybody.
Do we think they'll open it for Moonlight Magic for DVC?
That would be a nice gesture. That would be a very nice thing,
yeah. We we have no inside information
but that would be cool. Are you going?
You'll have to report back. I I will.
Yeah. So can I give you a spoiler on
the queue or no? Yes.
Sure, we. Don't care.
OK. Do you know when you're in
Pinocchio Village House and you can look down and see it's a
small world? Yeah.
You know, you could see the boat go through.
So now when you're in the first part of the queue, you see the
cars in the window and the people all waving down as
they're ready to make their ascension up.
The first part of the ride. I did.
I thought that was a pretty cool thing, and everybody's waving.
So you had that connection with the people up there to wave to
them. I like that.
What about the exit is is it still a showroom and video games
and all that stuff? Right now there's a huge
curtain, so it looks like there's still going to be
merchandise and I think that we still saw the showroom.
So the showroom is cool, but there's a merchandise place
that's that's covered. Are they upgrading it to used
car sales and Derek, that's going to be where you're
stationed or? When you hold too.
I was going to say that. Well, that's test.
That's test track for you. Let's move on to other cars.
I, I feel like I've ordered these perfectly with Segways,
other cars. More details have been announced
for the new cars area coming to Magic Kingdom.
The biggest detail is that the area is now closed and under
construction. Jeff, as of recording this, you
were there last night to say goodbye to the Rivers of
America. How was it?
Was it busy? It was great.
And we actually we did a little video to kind of say goodbye.
So that'll be going up here whenever Paul decides he wants
to send it. But OK, so real quick for me, I
can count the number of times that I made the journey over to
Tom Sawyer Island and it's on one hand, you know what I mean?
At the same time, there were a lot of people that were going
over there both on the riverboat and on the island that
definitely had an emotional connection.
Some people were dressed up as Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn and
just all in for the experience. I think it is going to be missed
by a lot of people, especially those with kids.
I like I said, I I could take it or leave it.
I think that space could be better utilized.
But I keep going back to Amy and I were discussing this on the
way home. I hated that at Disney World
with all this land, they have to get rid of something to give us
something new. I'm excited for cars and I'm
excited for the changes. I really do hope that it's more
of a Pandora like it melds with the area rather than a Toy Story
land that just is kind of there, you know, like they really need
to make sure that they meld this with the surroundings.
So I'm always excited for the future.
I'm excited for new things, but it's it's definitely a change to
the skyline that we've known for 50 years, you know, so it's
going to be interesting to see. But when I got up this morning
and looked at the app and it's now just grass on the app with
no Rivers of America, I was like, yeah.
Don't you love this new concept art that at least has some
water? At least there's a harm.
Candid about it for sure. Yeah, I mean, they didn't have
that water on the left hand side in in the beginning.
And I don't know if that's because they couldn't get the
approval without it or was people just made them put that
back. But I love that there's some
water now. But I think it looks even cooler
that it's not just water like it's cascading water and it
looks like guys shooting up. There's waterfalls.
It's like multi level water. I think it's going to be one of
these things where, yes, I mean, Jeff nailed it perfectly, is
that you will miss that feeling and hearing the the horn, you
know, that, you know, like you'll miss hearing that, like
not being there. But I think it's going to be one
of these things when it's done and it's up and people's mouths
drop open and they go like, I think it's going to be, I think
it's going to fit in seamlessly. So I think it's going to look
great. I didn't really understand the
first rendering that came out when it was first announced.
Yeah, like what? It doesn't make any sense.
But this new one, that picture looks.
Dope, I agree. Awesome.
Well, there is a show building.
And then I'll stop talking about it about the the closing day.
I think the people that are bothered the most, fans aside,
are the cast members that work that island.
So we went over and did the barrel bridge and for the first
time in 50 years the lady even said there was a 10 minute line
to walk across the bridge final. Time.
Like the thing wrapped all the way down to like the Fort, but I
was talking to the cast member that was standing there and she
goes, I have worked this attraction for 12 years and it's
my home and I'm I don't know where I'm going to be stationed
next, but I'm going to miss it. And so that kind of tugs at the
heartstrings a little bit because I.
Heard they're keeping the barrel.
I heard they're keeping a barrel bridge somewhere and it's in the
concept art. If you zoom in, if I, if I see
it again, I might be able to. You want to put it up real quick
just to see if I can find it. I know it was there and somebody
said, look, the barrel bridge is still being put somewhere.
And I was like, wow, that's great.
Yeah, if you let me see, I knew it was in the last concept art.
If you look closely, you'll find it somewhere.
In any event, I heard they're keeping a barrel bridge on it.
Somewhere Jeff, Jeff said it perfect too.
Is that I, I think honestly, like people that will miss it
are people with little kids. And I say that just because I
watched a lot of those videos recently from Tom Sawyer Island
and you just see it was the best place to a kind of escape the
crowds. If you have little kids like to
go over there and just to have them run around and just go nuts
and climb and burn off some energy.
I will always have a memory of my kids who are getting now
we're 20 and 16. When they were super, super
young, we sat and we played, I think three games of checkers,
right? We sat and just played checkers
like 3 games in a row. And that's a memory that they
still talk about. So yeah, I think for people with
little kids are going to miss it.
But then again, once you see this stuff that Paul's showing
on the screen, you'd be like, I don't want to play checkers, I
want to go on that ride. Well, and Tatum said the same
thing when we told her we were going to go take video of the
closing. She's like, I remember playing
hide and seek on that when we were little.
You know. And this is how the kind of week
that we've had is you had those pictures up and I and myself was
trying to zoom in myself on my own screen.
Like it doesn't work that way it.
Might it might be this piece that looks like behind this
piece there's like a barrel bridge here I think.
I'm not going to get overly. It was cool to go say goodbye.
I'm not super heartbroken about it, but I can see why people are
so. I think the boat is what I miss
the most. I hope that they put that
somewhere or it goes somewhere that is special.
Like could they put it in Seven Seas Lagoon in some capacity?
Is it seaworthy enough to actually be in there?
I don't know. But it would be cool to just see
that thing like the think the olden days of Seven Seas Lagoon
when you, you know, just have that.
Don't even put people on it. Just have it just randomly just
sailing across and. Have it out there rusting.
Well, move it every once in a while, don't turn it into grand
yacht one, which basically lost its motor during Covic and then
they never could get it started again.
They just pulled the whole thing out.
So they yeah, don't do that, do it, but.
I heard it was going to be the new splash.
I heard it was going to be the new splash pad at Fort
Wilderness Cabins until the lawyers got involved.
So. Or could you park it right
outside of Grand Floridian and put a restaurant in it and make
it something cool? That'd be cool.
Could you tie that into Grand Floridian somehow?
I don't. Or just keep it docked over on
that side and make it a Tiana restaurant.
They did that in Disney Springs with the seafood place pretty
much. They changed it.
They got rid of Fulton's. That was a gem.
We used to love that. Yeah, we liked it.
Yeah, the seafood tower was the best.
I was reading through the concept information that was
recently received on Piston Peak, as we're calling it Piston
Peak National Park. Derek, you mentioned the
geysers. Do you know what they're called?
Old tankful. Old tankful.
I liked. It.
And then the first original CARS character which is coming Ranger
J Autobahn. Huh.
That about sums it up. Yep.
So more information coming on Cars Land, we'll see it.
Rumors about the ride itself are very positive.
That it has a show building, that there are many levels and
that's that excites me. I like things that go inside,
outside, up, down, around. It looks like it's going to be
pretty major, so I'm happy about that.
I just need as long as they include this character, which my
friend Marissa got me many years ago because I always complain
there's never a Disney character with the name Derek in it.
And she for my birthday many many years ago happened to find
this. This is the very famous Derek
Williams from Cars. True fact.
Spell it the right way too for you.
Wow. And they spelled it the right
way, so as long. As it be DERICK here, yeah.
Oh, none of that DERICK nonsense.
No, it's Derek Derrick Williams, and as long as he can spin
around old tankful and Autobahn Gary or whatever his name is.
Autobahn, Gary, He will forever be known as do you.
Remember his Derrick character? I don't remember that.
Oh. I don't recall that at all.
Is it? I don't maybe.
It was from one of the spin offs.
Like all the like actual stuff on the back.
So I don't think it's like a make your own Funko thing.
I think it was. The filter.
It was a. Very, very.
That was a throwback. Yeah.
Well, let's move away from cars now and talk about Disney
Vacation Club trying to copy Summerfest, which is Welcome
Home Weeks which were started last year after we announced
Summerfest and did our fun summer things.
You know, maybe they stole the idea, who knows.
But if you are going to be at any of the Disney Vacation Club
properties or at Walt Disney World this summer, there is such
a long list of things that they are doing that are little
special events. That is part of the Welcome Home
Weeks that they are doing. These start August 14th and run
to September 16th. Couple highlights that I always
like to point out, quick service dining discount.
So you get to have one mobile order that gives you a 20% off
quick service dining discount. That's always, for me, one of
the biggest benefits and one that I don't know why it doesn't
exist the rest of the year, but is always a big one.
I think for families as part of welcome home weeks, there's some
other stuff like treat stops, special character meet and
greets. There's a wine mixer.
I mentioned the characters. Everglades Donuts is doing some
special things this year with a special Welcome Home Week donut
that they give out on certain dates.
Dvcfan.com You can find a full laundry list of all the Welcome
Home Weeks things. Did they do the 20% quick
service last year? They did.
Did we not use it? We did.
What oh I don't remember does so is there a certain time frame
and is it automatically just added to your quick service
order? Supposed to be.
So if you get 1, is it one per person that's a member or one
discount per membership? I don't work there.
This is my. Favorite.
I love it when you you would think per order things.
These are the important questions.
Sandwiches excluded. Select quick service dining
locations at Disneyland and Walt Disney World, August 14th
through the 16th. Members eligible for membership
extras. Discount 2 days.
The discount? No, that's a month.
August 14th through August 16th. September 16th.
OK, he said. August 14th through 16th.
Sorry, go to the website and there's details I would.
Recommend getting your news from literally anybody else, right?
Now I don't even know what's happening right now.
I'm just excited about the discount.
They're doing the table service 40% off as well.
Oh see, now that's exciting too. It is available Mondays through
Thursdays so we can go back to Hollywood and wine.
Hey, let me get my goggles on so I can see.
I don't. Know why I said wine?
Oh, it is the same restaurant you.
Think you need some wine? Yeah.
So it's basically the same restaurants as the annual pass
one, but the dates are different.
That's cool. Yeah, we can go get Turkey
dinner at the Diamond Horseshoe. Sign me up.
Love a good Turkey dinner? 40% off can't be that.
Any other questions? Yeah, tell me about this wine
mixer. Is it like Catalina wine?
Mixer. Listen, somebody, oh, my boss,
when I said we were going to Catalina Island, which we
stopped at earlier this month, was like, is it the wine mixer?
And I was like, what? And he had explained to me.
And then I noticed when we posted our pictures in Catalina,
like 10 people asked me about the wine mixer.
So I found a poster at Catalina that said we had just missed the
wine mixer. It was like the week before we
were there. Wow.
So what is the movie? Step Brothers.
Step. Brothers, that's it.
We missed it by a week. If you're around Catalina and
asking about Welcome Home weeks for DVC, they're not there, it's
at Disneyland. It is 2 days, August 27th and
September 10th from 4:00 to 5:00 PM at the Grand Californian
Hotel in the Briza Courtyard. Wait, there's one at the Rainbow
Reef at Aulani? There is there's more dates for
that, August 20. August 27th.
September 3rd. September 10th.
Good night, Jeff. You'll take one for the team.
I am very giving in that. Way OK, so there's no wine mixer
for us Floridians. We'll have to have our own.
I love this one. Complimentary reusable shopping
bag available if you stop by the Gateway to Discovery Welcome
Home Center at Disney Springs or the Golden Vine House at Disney
California Adventure Park. That place is never open though,
so don't try to get. In plastic bag.
A plastic bag. We've not seen it yet, but you
know we can. We can be the best bag ever.
Not. Plastic, because they don't have
those in California. It's a It's a canvas bag.
I am excited about this. They did announce that they're
going to do some open houses at Copper Creek for the newly
refurbished rooms. Oh, that's cool.
So the dates to be determined, that's all I have for.
You they have a room first. Yeah, they do.
There are a couple rooms finished so far, I've seen a
couple pictures, some of the refurbishment stuffs.
And only to get away from the topic that we are on, we are
going to fully segue into this because I have refurbishment
updates on on my agenda for tonight.
So let's just move away from Welcome Home Weeks, please.
The Copper Creek refurbishment is underway at the moment.
They are adding Murphy beds as part of this.
This is a soft goods refurbishment, so don't expect
everything to change, just some smaller things.
And as part of most soft goods refurbishments, they are adding
the Murphy beds. I will add a little caveat there
because it does look like there are certain rooms similar to
Boulder Ridge that cannot accommodate the Murphy bed.
So there have been a couple pictures that have emerged of I
think A2 bedroom at least that I've seen that they did not get
the Murphy bed in there probably because of the ceiling shape.
You know, you name it, there's going to be reasons why in
certain rooms they. Can't.
And that's the case at every resort.
You know there are some rooms at Vero Beach that don't have them
because the placement of a window, the shape of a wall, the
pitch of the roof. So you just have to know that to
the. Window.
There's there's some really. No.
Stop right there. Stop.
Right there. There are some really oddly
shaped rooms in DVC. I don't, it's, I have a
question. It's been a couple years since I
stayed at Copper, but I've seen some people make online comments
about that, have seen some of these things that are going on
and they're all like, Oh my God, hopefully less beige.
Was there a lot of beige in the Copper Creek rooms?
I don't. Remember that.
Beige is like that complaint that everyone has right now and
I don't understand it. Like what other color would you
like him to paint? Like bright red, orange,
chartreuse. Right, you're at a wilderness
themed. Resort like.
I personally think they should take Panda and Derek shirts and
use those patterns for the walls.
Look at us. The Trapper Keeper and the
jungle. This looks like freshly cut
grass I think. Yeah, I mean, I guess there is
some beige. I have always loved the Copper
Creek rooms. I think that some of the
furniture there is absolutely, you know, spot on in terms of a
theming. I love the dresser because
there's like different size drawers and every drawer.
Yeah, the artwork there. I, I have no complaints about
Copper Creek and I just hope that the Murphy bed gets just as
much love and theming as Boulder Ridge has.
Because if you compare it to what they did at Grand
Californian, they didn't even slap any artwork on the outside
of that. And it just that doesn't.
Yeah, let's talk about that for a second.
OK. So we've had a lot of members
reaching out to us asking us, will you please say something
about the grand Cow refurbishment?
And Paul did put out a couple of articles, you know, saying, is
this it, is there going to be more?
Are there delays? Why isn't it finished?
But we wanted to fully wait. I'm going to take this out
really quickly so I can hear better.
We wanted to fully wait until we stayed there so that we knew for
sure, you know, like exactly, exactly what it looked like.
It is done right. I'm pretty sure it's.
Correct, that is fully. Completed.
It's fully completed. There was no construction going
on. We just stayed earlier this
month for a little bit and yeah, it's disappointing.
So some of the things that you would expect even bare minimum
from a soft goods refurb, and this was a hard goods, this was
not a soft goods refurb. And we knew that.
A lot of you knew that Grand Cow was in desperate need of a
refurb. It was getting very dated.
A lot of the furniture was getting very old and scratched
up and the carpet was worn and and if you look back on the DVC
fan YouTube, you can see the tour that we did back in gosh,
2022 and it just looks rough. So it was very, very much
needed. But with that said, it's now
done and it felt more like a soft goods refurb.
They replaced the couch, the pull up couch with a Murphy bed,
but there's no artwork on it except for inside.
They replaced the floor and put in a rug and I pretty much that
was it, right? Paul I The bathroom remains
completely unchanged. The kitchenette remains
completely unchanged, the furniture, the coffee table, the
dresser, the end tables, the bed, all the same scratched up
furniture that was there before. So as an owner of Grand Cal,
like I can see the frustration there of why did we get
basically the lowest end of a hard goods refurb that was
possible. And I don't, I don't know the
answer to that. It's very disappointing.
I've not done a deep dive in terms of the numbers, but
something that I would love to get an answer to is you look at
all of these resorts have a refurbishment reserve.
So money from your annual dues goes into a budget to actually
refurbish these rooms. Now that the cost to refurbish
these rooms typically is far and above and beyond whatever that
is. So Disney does cover a portion
of these refurbishments, but a large aspect of them are paid by
member dues. I would love to compare Bay Lake
Tower, what their reserve was before their refurbishment and
what their reserve was after their refurbishment and see the
basically the cost per room breakdown of what they did to
those rooms compared to Grand California.
Now you could argue construction costs are maybe a little bit
higher in California. You could argue multiple
different things. But what you can't get around is
that they gutted those Bay Lake Tower rooms and at Grand
Californian they. I left this picture up on
purpose because we are here in 2025 and what did they do for
extra charging? They put in an ihome device.
I think I was in. We're in college.
College when we had an. Ihome.
Yeah, yeah. And I mean, this is so like
2009, I guess is when we were in college.
But why are you laughing? Do you have?
Because I because I hear that the laserdisc player they
installed really. Really.
Quick. Well, and even to that, why are
they? Where's my kitchenette picture
that I had? Look at this.
They didn't even spring for a new coffee pot.
We got old Mr. Coffee. Where'd he go?
There he is. OK, bring him into the show.
Boom, look at that. Everybody's getting Keurigs.
Yeah, and we had to unplug it to have charging.
This microwave that was there, there is lettering at the bottom
of the microwave that is like wearing off.
Like that microwave has been there for a long time.
That tile is just. I don't know. 70s, it looks like
the 70s. Yeah, my grandma had carpet that
color. It looks like it looks like a
fresh roll of paper towel. I mean.
Got that going for us. So we did, and I'm not saying
the room looks terrible, but I'm just really surprised that they
didn't at least replace some of those furniture pieces, among
other things, the, you know, the bathtub, the shower, the tile
work, all that's all the same. We did do a room tour.
It has not come out yet, but it will be in the future.
And we show you everything. Explain what changed, what
didn't. Yeah, and all the details.
So. Really excited for the condo
association meeting in December when they are grilled about this
refurbishment. So go ahead, Jeff.
Yeah, and it just, it only highlights that when it's right
next to the brand new shiny Disneyland hotel villas, which I
stayed at for the first time, which are amazing.
They're so pretty on the inside. And the Grand Calais, kind of
like the grand flow out here. It's supposed to be like the big
one out in Disneyland. And I would be angry if I owned
there. Well, I'd be angry if I used my
points there and had a busted coffee table from 1972.
And my question is that, is that intentional?
Are they intentionally under doing this renovation to sell
more Disneyland hoed? I know that's I mean that's
saying a lot, but I wouldn't be shocked because I mean, Derek,
you know, I wrote in the average price blog in the Roefer report
resale market, I think sold 5 grand Cal contracts in June and
how many got Roeford 5. So they're buying back Grand
Cal, which means that I would assume that those sales agents
are just constantly having this discussion of like, well, I
like, I like this one more. It's the same thing like we
talked about on a previous show, and I know you did like A blog
about it too, where it's the same thing at the Polynesian,
right? So they're touring the
Polynesian, they look around, they show them the Polynesian
rooms, but then they look over at the Grand Floridian and go,
what about that? I want to buy that instead.
Can I buy that instead? And that's why they're buying
back Grand Floridian contracts. So again, yeah.
You want your newest product to be like the, you know, the most
beautiful girl at the prom, you know, not like, whoa, who's she?
Is she seeing anybody? I think I want to go with her
instead. And then and then maybe once
you, once you get up close and you're like, uh, that's a nasty
coffee table you got. So then you know.
Like what kind of date is Derek going on?
Wow, it's been a while. It's been in the dating pool.
You don't know what things were like back then.
But yeah, that's, that's a perfect point.
Perfect point. Because again, I'm sure a lot of
people go, oh, well, I would love to.
So can I use my Disneyland points to stay at the Grand Cal?
You know, of course they're going to say yes at seven months
out without telling them. Well, if that's really where you
want to stay, you better you got to own points here.
Oh, really? Can I own points here?
And then you're down to Grand Cal wormhole.
So. Yeah.
Last things I'll say about refurbishment real quick because
I know some people are wondering about them, Animal Kingdom
Lodge, we know that construction permits have been filed and they
should hopefully be starting work on those this fall.
So that is when the Kadani portion of the refurbishment
full hard goods refurbishment is starting.
We have not gotten any real news.
There was one or two construction permits for
specific treehouse villas at Saratoga Springs, but we've not
seen any massive permits filed. Those are due to be refurbished
this year. Not really heard anything about
those just yet. And then Bay Lake Tower Bay Lake
is what I would say probably around 75% complete.
It is fully on track. Please do not let any of those
click baity news articles out there tell you that it's delayed
for another year. Don't even get me started.
Nothing affected the refurbishment of Bay Lake Tower
that is scheduled still to be completed in September or
October of this year. Other amenity refurbishments
around Bay Lake Tower or around Contemporary in general?
Yes, those have been pushed out a little bit further but the
room refurbishment, it looks to be fully on schedule and I would
say that you have a good 75% chance at this point of getting
a refurbished room unless you are really unlucky then don't
gamble and stay somewhere else and wait until next year for
your Bay Lake Tower. But the refurbishment is what's
your? Schedule.
Schedule for Jambo House. Was that on a show that I missed
because I didn't hear you say that?
Yeah. So Jambo is actually early 2026.
So they will finish Kadani fully and then move to Jambo.
I think that's just because they can do more of the rooms at
Kidani. That entire building is all DVC.
When they move to Jambo house, they're only affecting 2 floors
worth of rooms so that I think it's the thought process that.
They both do. They both do, and it'll be
interesting to. See, I haven't seen they.
Go in hopefully not any tan colors because you know people
with pitchforks will be after them.
So chartreuse please. Thank you.
Magenta. Any colors?
I guess last but not least on this list tonight, the new
Disney Starlight Parade is scheduled to begin here very,
very soon. We are super excited.
I think a lot of us have Park Pass reservations for the night
that it starts. It is going to debut on July
20th, 2025. I know Jeff's going to be there.
I know we're going to be there. I don't know about Derek or
Panda. Panda's going to be there.
Yes, OK, won't be there. That's the night we're at Epic
Universe. Oh yeah, we knew that.
I'm really bummed. I'm really bummed.
In fact. I thought about leaving Epic to
come down and watch it, but that's.
Just silly. Don't do that.
That's just silly. That is silly.
Yeah, the parade. No spoilers, I have cast member
friends that have seen the floats backstage and they're
telling me they look fantastic, so I am hopeful.
That's good to hear because I feel like Disney is being very
quiet about it. And normally when Disney's quiet
about something, that does not bode well for it.
It's like when you know. How?
To like Elio, that's going to flop.
Yeah, yeah. So.
I also heard the music is fantastic so I'm I'm still
hopeful that maybe they don't know what they got.
Cool. Yeah.
We're excited. To see it last on our news list
is something that I don't know that many of us had had an
opportunity to see yet. But the new shows at Hollywood
Studios. Jeff, you were just there this
week, weren't you? Yeah, when I found out that we
were filming them or talking about this, I made Amy run over
this week. I landed in Utah on my birthday
and I'm like, come on, we got work to do.
So we're actually, we did a video about that too, about the
new voyage of The Little Mermaid show and villains unhappily Ever
after. No spoilers.
Thoughts. Initial thoughts.
I I know that this group in this room is not the demographic for
villains. It's not.
This is a show geared for kids. I loved it.
I thought it was great. So no curmudgeon on my shoulder
today. Is it cheesy?
Yes. Is it not scary?
Absolutely not. Is it a?
Win for the people that they're going after 100%.
It gives young children an introduction to these villains
that they might not otherwise get.
So I, I have no, I think the theater is gorgeous.
I think the special effects that they do and the screens, I think
it's great. I, it, I'm not going to go to it
every time, but I'm not the one that's supposed to be going to
it every time. So I I'll call it a win.
The Little Mermaid is, I didn't feel like it was that different
than the one before. It's fine.
But there's one weird thing about the villain show.
It's weird to me now where Disney is drawing the line
between face characters and costumed characters.
Because as long as Disney's been around, Captain Hook has been a
costume character and so is Jafar.
And now to have them be face characters with makeup on, it's
very unnerving. But it was, I thought it was a
good show. It was good.
One of my favorite childhood memories is going to the Aladdin
Breakfast, which I think was at Hollywood Studios.
Oh my God, yes. So it was a character breakfast
and the characters come around and I have an autograph book
somewhere that has Jafar's signature.
And Jeff, to your point, not only was he a face character,
but he had fake hands. He had these fake plastic hands.
And the hand was like, wait. He was a he was a face character
or a costume. He was costumed, he was fully
costumed. So he had, he had a full thing
on and then fake hands. The the hands are what we're
going to emphasize because I had him sign an autograph and the
hand can't hold a pen. So he dropped the pen like 5
times and he has to sign autographs like moving his whole
arm rather than moving the hand. And I this is this is like the
childhood memory that is ingrained in my head.
Paul, do you remember a big staircase with the lamp at the
top with some special effects? Oh yeah.
OK, I'll make it from my memory because I do remember that.
That was a cool thing, yeah. Yeah, it was a cool.
I loved the character breakfast and I was a huge Aladdin kid
growing up. So plastic hands.
There you go. Nice.
I'm going to go online and I'm going to go online and order
Jafar's plastic hands for Summerfest just so I can freak
people out. So that you can sign up.
With Jafar's walking, when Jafar's walking in the parade,
you can see those hands and you could see how they are
completely, you know, prosthetics.
They're great though. Derek's going to be eating fried
chicken with this prosthetic hand at Hoop Dee Doo.
Really hope you get caught up on stage for that.
That'll be great. Well, that is going to do it for
this week's episode of the DVC Show.
I think we have discussed no news way too much because none
of this should have been talked about for an hour, but somehow
we talked about it for an hour and 10 minutes basically.
So let us know your thoughts on these topics or any other news
going on in the Disney and DVC space.
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So, but that's going to do it for this week's episode of the
DVC show. Hey, Jeff, happy birthday and.
Happy birthday, Jeff. Next Monday.