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Welcome. 
To the debauchery. 

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Today, we'll take a look at 
arguably the world's most 

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heinous serial killer, pedophile
Albert Fish. 

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Plus, we can answer your mail 
call questions, give an update 

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on Rex Huerman, Architect, and 
Garrett tells us the fastest way

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to go to jail in Florida is to 
crash your car through its front

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door. 
Also, stay tuned after the main 

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story for another installment of
Dear Douchebags. 

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Oh, we're back, baby. 
Yes, Sir, I'm Dave Jarry. 

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I'm Gary Carter and this. 
Is criminal as fuck. 

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What's good? 
All you criminals, debauched and

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true crime douchebags out there 
and welcome to another episode 

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of Criminal AF. 
Once again I am Dave Jari and 

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with me as always is my Co host 
Garrett Carter. 

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How we do it? 
We'd like to give a huge 

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criminal AF shout out to the 
newest member of the Debauched 

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Bree Alpha. 
Thank you so much Bree and 

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welcome to our fucked up family.
We have some Rex Heroin 

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architect. 
Rex Schumer. 

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Yeah, we got some updates, and 
this comes from The Associated 

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Press. 
The New York architect accused 

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of murdering multiple women and 
leaving their corpses scattered 

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along the Long Island coast kept
a blueprint of his crimes on his

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computer. 
I'm not. 

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Well, yeah. 
Hidden. 

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Yeah, and prosecutors revealed 
Thursday as they also brought 

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charges against Rex, Heroin and 
two more killings. 

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Derek. 
Two more killings. 

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So Heroman, 60, appeared before 
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deaths of Jessica Taylor and 
Sandra Castillo, two young women

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who were long suspected of being
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sex workers. 
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So he had previously been 
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other women in the string of 
deaths known as the Gilgo Beach 

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serial killings or Liske, the 
Long Island serial killer. 

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So Taylor disappeared in 2003. 
Castillo was killed 30 years ago

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in 1993, and her inclusion in 
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prosecutors now believe that 
human heroin was killing was 

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killing women for much longer. 
That's not funny, but it was 

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killing women much longer than. 
Previous. 

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Thoughts cancelled. 
Trying. 

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To do a fucking NEWS UPDATE. 
So the new charges came after 

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recent police searches of of 
Human's Massapequa Park home in 

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a wooded area of Long Island 
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All right now in a court filing,
prosecutors said that they were 

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able to use new forensic testing
methods. 

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I wonder what that is to match. 
Hair is found on or near the 

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vicinity of both victims to DNA 
profile that is likely matched 

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to Huroman. 
Architect. 

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Architect. 
Additionally, this is going to 

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go well. 
Additionally, prosecutors say 

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they recover the file on a hard 
drive in his basement used to 

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methodically blueprint his 
killings. 

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It's wild the document written 
in all caps. 

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That alone should tell you that 
he's a. 

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Fucking serial killer. 
The best part about this too is 

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if if you guys have a chance to 
actually go look at the 

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documents. 
It's like AI don't know. 

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I'm younger. 
I'm in the younger generation so

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I came I came from when they 
did. 

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Like they taught excel, word and
stuff in school. 

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It looks like my 4th grade Excel
class made a spreadsheet. 

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I don't know. 
Go look at it. 

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I'm. 
Just it's so funny. 

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To me. 
Yeah, It's like no clue. 

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Like it's just like this is what
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This is what you do. 
This is what you. 

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Do. 
It's. 

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Just funny. 
It's very funny. 

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All right, so this document that
features a series of checklists 

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with tasks to complete before, 
during and after the killings, 

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as well as practical lessons 
for, you know, the next time you

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kill somebody. 
Among the dozens of entries 

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written are reminders to clean 
the bodies and destroy the 

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evidence and to get sleep before
the hunt. 

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Very important. 
Make sure you're you're well 

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rested. 
You got to go through your check

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your killer checklist. 
Let it sell. 

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And make sure you quote UN quote
have your story set now. 

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One section is titled Things to 
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highlight lessons from previous 
killings, such as using heavier 

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rope and limiting noise to in 
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That's creepy. 
Yeah, a body prep checklist 

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includes, among other items, a 
note to remove the head and 

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hands. 
Which he didn't do to all his 

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victims. 
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Prosecutors believe that the 
entry may connect human to yet 

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another victim, Valerie Mack, 
whose partial skeletal remains 

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were discovered near the body of
Taylor after her disappearance 

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in 2000. 
Heuerman has not been charged in

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the death of Mack, but asked 
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Thursday's hearing if he was a 
suspect, District Attorney Ray 

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Tierney replied That's fair to 
say. 

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Yeah, AKA. 
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suspect. 
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that the blueprint document, 
which Heuerman had attempted to 

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delete, was a significant 
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along Long Island in recent 
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March for for more than 350 
electronic devices that were 

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seized from his home. 
That's impressive 3. 150. 

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Yeah, I'm trying to think 350. 
That's a lot of electronic 

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devices. 
Well, I think, well, he had all 

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those burner phones, so it was 
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burner phones at least. 
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crazy amount 'cause I'm trying 
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seize my, if they, if they 
raided my house, how many 

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devices would they have? 
It wouldn't even be close. 

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No. 
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150, you're up. 
Anybody over over 100 devices, I

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would say over something, 
something, something's up here, 

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yeah. 
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him, his wife and when he had 
two kids that. 

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Doesn't matter, I have a family 
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Do you have more than 50 
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No, I have okay. 
Less than 10 350 is crazy. 

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Yeah, that's fucking crazy. 
All right, so Huerman pleaded 

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not guilty to killing Taylor and
Castilla during a hearing and 

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was ordered held without bail. 
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nowhere. 
His lawyer, Michael Brown, said 

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outside of court that Huerman is
obviously in a bad place in 

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terms of these new charges. 
Yo, all right, we're going back 

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to last week's episode. 
Fuck defense attorney. 

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Wow, Paulo Flint, you heard 
that. 

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You heard that? 
He's in a bad place. 

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Right now a bad. 
Place shut. 

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Up afterward, Tierney said that 
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some small measure of closure 
for the victims families. 

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So yeah, there's that. 
He's going down regardless. 

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It doesn't. 
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If the he's not going to get all
convictions, but he'll be 

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convicted for some. 
But yeah, I think he'll, he'll, 

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he, I think he'll at least be 
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Yeah, at least. 
All right, before we jump into 

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all the shenanigans today, we 
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regarding criminal AAF. 
We are a comedic, informative 

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true crime podcast, Garrett. 
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a ish ish heavy on the ish, you 
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Man, but we'll also be talking 
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Which is, oh, quite a bit. 
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Sometimes, you know, we find 
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stories are particularly funny. 
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Yes, Sir. 
You know, if this is your first 

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First ADHD tone is is black 
people Mac and cheese better 

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than white people Mac and cheese
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Like with 100%? 
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God, this is, this is glorious. 
Yeah, white people, Mac and 

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cheese is just like craft. 
Yeah, you just go to get the 

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It's the worst. 

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I'm a I'm a purple scrunchie. 
A purple scrunchie is that 

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That's voyeurism. 
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Watch I I will say if I was 

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going to be in that community, 
you'd. 

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Be a purple. 
Just throw the purple up there 

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and be like, hey, let me just 
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I want to just hang out. 
I need a couple beers. 

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Yeah, I'll actually coach. 

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You too. 
I'll coach you through it. 

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Like I'll be like, yeah. 
Come on, that's all you got. 

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Yeah, yeah, put some of them 
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Bro, come on, munch on that 
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Keep going. 
See this. 

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Is going to be listen. 
I got Makers and Ginger all 

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Today we've we've, we've 

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partaked since I don't know 
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No, I. 
Think you know? 

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Garrus says I'm going to be a 
bottom. 

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I don't. 
I don't. 

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I would totally top Dave Stop. 
I don't see that I. 

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Listen, it's it's that that 
front you put on. 

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I know deep down you want to be 
a little. 

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Yeah, I want to be domed. 
You, you want to be domed. 

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Deep down, it's all, it's all 
fugazi. 

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Fugazi, Yeah. 
Now we try to get to all the 

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questions, but for time purposes
we can only do three or four. 

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So if you don't hear yours this 
episode, it'll be coming up in a

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future episode. 
And first up, we have Kate Go 

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and a friend down there from 
down under. 

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Down under, Down under, Kate. 
Yeah, she has a two-part 

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question. 
What did you guys think of baby 

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reindeer? 
Did you watch it? 

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No. 
That stalker like on Netflix? 

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I didn't see it. 
You didn't watch it. 

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No. 
OK, well I guess I'm answering 

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this one. 
I didn't see it. 

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Yet OK, I watched. 
We've worked so much out 

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overtime in the last. 
Time I watched, you know, under 

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the, you know, the 
recommendation of of Kate 

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actually and a few other people 
from work. 

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I did start watching it. 
It's it's definitely on my list.

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I got I got a backlog right now 
all. 

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Right. 
Well, I'm not going to give any 

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spoilers, but I will say I've 
watched maybe three episodes of 

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it. 
Four. 

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And I had to turn it off. 
I was over it. 

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Really. 
Yeah. 

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OK, so then maybe I skip it? 
Well. 

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You might like it, but 
basically, so the the baby 

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reindeer story is about a guy 
who has a stalker. 

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All right, it's this lady, blah 
blah blah. 

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You know, he's like Oh my God, 
look at me. 

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Oh, I had a fucking stalker. 
Oh, what was me? 

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I made a story about it. 
OK, true story. 

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But as I'm like 3 or 4 efforts 
episodes into it, I'm like this 

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dude is kind of egging her on. 
He likes it. 

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Yeah, you know, like. 
I think that happens more than 

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you people realize. 
It's probably like the IT. 

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It's just like everybody loves 
the idea of being wanted, right?

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So. 
Who cares if it's the creepy guy

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who sits outside your window 
with a knife? 

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He likes you. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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He just wants to watch. 
Just let him watch, let him 

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watch. 
But anyways, yeah, so I don't 

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know, I I I was watching this 
and I'm like, this dude deserves

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everything he gets because he's 
like I said, he's egging her on.

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He's like kind of like lead her 
on a little bit. 

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He some of the actions that he 
does is kind of misleading to 

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her. 
You know what I mean? 

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Yeah. 
So I don't know. 

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I you got what he deserves, you 
know. 

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Good take. 
I like the take. 

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I stopped watching it because 
I'm just like, this guy's a 

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fucking idiot and you're pissing
me off So. 

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So yeah. 
So that's why I thought about. 

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Isn't it amazing how men just 
like this? 

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Like a if you're a man and you 
and a woman stalks you, it's 

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not, it's not even close to the 
same thing as a male stalker on 

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a female like a female is. 
Oh yeah, dudes are crazy. 

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These are fucking crazy. 
It's like you're not scared for 

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your life. 
Like if if a male stalks a 

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female, it is, it's creepy. 
It's scary. 

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During your closet. 
Yeah, like. 

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They go in your house, they're 
like, it's just a totally 

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different atmosphere. 
Yeah, I think like a woman 

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stalker. 
I could be wrong but I think 

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like a woman stalker is more 
like, you know, they they. 

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They. 
Try to hack into your Facebook. 

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Yeah, like, you know, it's more 
try. 

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To split up your marriage like. 
Whatever, let me check his 

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messages. 
Yeah, they, they do. 

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Yeah. 
But I'm sure there is where, 

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well, we would be proven wrong. 
There's somewhere out there. 

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Oh yeah. 
Some lady boiling the fucking 

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rabbit in the fucking stove. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So yeah, that's why I thought 
about baby reindeer. 

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I mean, some people like it 
wasn't for me. 

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The guy fucking annoyed the shit
out of me and he deserves 

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everything you got. 
But anyway. 

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I'll give you a take, my take 
when I actually watch it, OK? 

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Now her second question is can 
you clarify post nut clarity? 

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So we did episode Who is it 
fucking the mother fucking 

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virgin where he planned on 
killing his mother and then 

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killing his sister but after he 
killed his mother. 

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He got post nut clarity. 
He got post nut clarity and was 

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like, you know what? 
I don't really want to kill my 

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sister anymore. 
You know, like that urge kind of

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goes away. 
So post nut clarity, go ahead. 

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Dave, you still you take it off 
off all right. 

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Well, post nut clarity can can 
mean a, a variant thing. 

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So it could be like actual like,
like sex, you know, like you're 

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at work and you're like, Oh my 
God, I'm fucking so horny right 

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now. 
And you're like, then you go 

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home and you have sex with your 
wife or whatever or a random 

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stranger and after you nut 
you're like, OK, I'm good, you 

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know, whatever. 
And. 

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It could also be like, you know,
if you're scrolling like porn or

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something. 
Yeah. 

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And you come across the scene 
and you know, you fucking do 

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your thing and then afterwards 
you're like. 

334
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Yeah. 
Why did I do that for her? 

335
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Yeah, it's also, it also could 
be, you know, post on clarity. 

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Could be the 2:00 AM bar's about
to close. 

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You pick up a girl. 
Yeah, she's not. 

338
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Yeah. 
She's not the girl you wanted to

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bring home, but. 
She was, however. 

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You're going to do it. 
Yeah, you're going to do it. 

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And then once after you bust, 
Yeah. 

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You're like. 
You're like it's, it's, it's 

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that, it's that moment after a 
man releases that sounds so 

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fucking disgusting. 
No, it is. 

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But that you realize all your 
choices up to that point were 

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just. 
Horrible. 

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And then you want to. 
Run. 

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You want to run away from. 
To the hills. 

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And that even happens in, like, 
you know, people, you hear 

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stories about guys who are just 
like, don't touch me, don't 

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touch. 
Me. 

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After it's a, it's AI don't 
know, it's a primalistic maybe 

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'cause you're trying back in the
back in the, you know, the 

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caveman days, we were just 
trying to, we were just trying 

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to. 
You're trying to. 

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We're trying to bust the nut and
run and. 

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Every anything you could. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Once you bust, you're fucking 

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out. 
Yeah, you're out. 

360
00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,920
There's Saber tooth tigers 
chasing you and shit. 

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You know what I mean? 
So. 

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That's also that's why ladies, 
if a man comes quick, don't. 

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That's a primal urge and a 
primal instinct that we have. 

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All right, We got to get the job
done and we got to be in and 

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out. 
Listen, there's cyber, cyber 

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tooth. 
There's Saber tooth tigers 

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chasing. 
Us, right, Yes. 

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So truthfully, your man's 
actually more of a man if he 

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comes fast. 
There you go. 

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Garrett logic right there, 
Garrett. 

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Garrett Logic. 
He's more he's he's, he's at 

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roots with this primal. 
Urge. 

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00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:21,640
Yeah. 
Yeah, I like it. 

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I'll go with that. 
Yep, so that's post, not 

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clarity. 
That's pretty much wrapped up in

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a a nutshell. 
But the porn thing is, is real. 

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You'll be like, oh, you'll be 
into it. 

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You'll be you'll, you'll do your
thing and then you'll be like, 

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oh, what the fuck? 
Am I watching? 

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What was I? 
Yeah. 

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Oh yeah. 
What was I thinking? 

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Oh, you just. 
It's shame. 

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It's basically shame ever after 
you. 

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Come, you just, you're just 
shame. 

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You're disgusted in yourself. 
It's like a. 

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Fucking like a a Protestant like
nun just. 

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Like a shame, shame, shame. 
Now there there have been a has 

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some pretty famous post nut 
clarity serial killers, you 

389
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know, kind of like the goat at 
Kemper. 

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You know, he fucking he just 
gave up. 

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He killed his he killed his 
mother, the subject of his 

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fucking rage, you know, and 
fucked her body and her face and

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everything. 
And he was like. 

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I'm. 
Going to turn myself in. 

395
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Yeah, yeah, I'm good. 
He ended it all. 

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Off of a fucking post nut 
clarity. 

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That's what it is. 
He did life in prison off of 

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post nut clarity. 
So that's that. 

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So thank you very much Kate go 
in. 

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That was a good. 
Question. 

401
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That was a good question. 
All right, Next up we have Dylan

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8722. 
And Dylan asks if you could have

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10 minutes with any serial 
killer, who would it be and what

404
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,160
would happen? 
Oh, what would happen? 

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10 minute that that's such a 
like a a tough question to 

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answer off the top, off the top 
of the Dome. 

407
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,960
I don't know. 
Go ahead. 

408
00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,800
Well. 
Everybody knows my fucking. 

409
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OK, camper. 
Yeah, my serial killer crush is 

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is camper, so that would be 
that. 

411
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,040
I mean, that's the easy answer. 
I'll probably have to go with 

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BTK. 
I was, I listen, I was all 

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right. 
Go ahead. 

414
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,160
Go ahead. 
I was gonna. 

415
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I literally thought of that two 
seconds ago. 

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So my 10 minutes with BTK would 
consist of me beating the living

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piss out of his fucking 
disgusting gross ass fucking 

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face. 
BTK got to me. 

419
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That's one of that's one of the 
stories I like. 

420
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I've I've like this episode 
obviously is album Fish right? 

421
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So we know he's the biggest 
scumbag of all time, piece of 

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shit. 
But the the BTK episode always 

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gets to me. 
I don't know what it is. 

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Out of all the out of all the 
serial killers, BTK is probably 

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the biggest fucking scumbag 
there is alive. 

426
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,800
See I would I instantly thought 
is for me. 

427
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I would kind of go into like a 
Doctor Phil mode with BDKI want 

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to. 
Know his brain, Yeah. 

429
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,200
I want to know what like, dude, 
you almost got away with it. 

430
00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:47,640
Why? 
Why did you what, like what was 

431
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the point? 
Like I, I, I just, I feel like 

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there's so many unanswered 
questions there. 

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I'm like, did he want, did he 
like deep down, did he want to 

434
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get caught? 
I guess he missed the whole 

435
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fucking cat and mouse kind of 
thing, yeah? 

436
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,000
But then keep going. 
Yeah, he was a fucking idiot. 

437
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,480
Yeah. 
That's like, hey, can you, can 

438
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,480
you trace a fucking floppy? 
That's what I mean. 

439
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,800
Like are you fucking that 
stupid? 

440
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,360
And the cops like, no, no, we 
can't do that. 

441
00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:10,280
That's like when. 
You see that's. 

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When you see those like the the 
police departments always joke 

443
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on Facebook or whatever and they
post like, oh, don't have your 

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00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,920
plugs today on. 
Christmas. 

445
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,280
It's just, you know, call. 
Us and we'll come and deliver 

446
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your weed for you. 
Like. 

447
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Are you going to really do that?
Fucking idiot. 

448
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,960
Yeah 100% BTK and I would beat 
the living piss out of him the 

449
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entire 10 minutes and then I 
would curb stomp his fucking 

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skull and smash his fucking. 
Fair enough, fair enough. 

451
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,120
I I just, I like the Doctor Phil
aspect of you could choose. 

452
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I could choose any, any serial 
killer. 

453
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,560
I would just like to like really
deep dive. 

454
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Just pick their fucking just 
pick a brain who hurt you when 

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you were young. 
Yeah, like we learn more about 

456
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all those, all those unanswered 
questions that we we always come

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up. 
Yeah. 

458
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,040
So you're interested in the 
psychology? 

459
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,000
Oh, I would love that. 
Yeah, I just want to go in there

460
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,840
and beat their fucking. 
Yeah, but I mean, they're behind

461
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,280
bars. 
They're going to die anyway. 

462
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,320
They serve their justice. 
I'm fucking petty though. 

463
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,920
I'm petty as fuck, dude. 
I am fucking petty as fuck. 

464
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,840
I wanna make people suffer who 
deserve to fucking suffer. 

465
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,440
You're like Dexter, dude. 
You are Dexter. 

466
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,000
I'm Dexter. 
All right. 

467
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,240
Thank you very much, Dylan. 
That was a pretty good question 

468
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,520
as well. 
Now we have one that was sent in

469
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,560
quite a while ago and I, I must 
have missed it. 

470
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,120
I mean quite a while ago, 
meaning like November. 

471
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,480
Oh wow. 
Yeah, it it, it fell out. 

472
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,440
So I sincerely apologize, but 
it's from Michael McHugh from 

473
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,000
down in Australia. 
Oh no. 

474
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,000
Down on that. 
And he asked, do you worry for 

475
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,760
your family's safety? 
The more you research and 

476
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,000
discover how evil, how much evil
there is out there, he adds in 

477
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,160
Big Love from Sydney, Australia.
That is such a good question. 

478
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,320
How the fuck did you let that 
go? 

479
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,160
A fuck. 
How did you let that that's 

480
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,360
like. 
That's such a good one. 

481
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,360
It's a very good question. 
It's a very, very good question.

482
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,520
And I apologize, Michael, so 
sorry. 

483
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,600
I hope you're still listening. 
I hope we didn't get pissed off 

484
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,040
and be like, oh, they didn't 
answer my fucking question. 

485
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,320
Fuck them. 
Yeah. 

486
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:04,960
But anyway, do who do I worry? 
The thought has crossed my mind 

487
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,120
that there's could possibly be a
serial killer out there that 

488
00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,800
listens to the show. 
And they, I mean, we talk about 

489
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,800
where we're from. 
We don't hide the fact where 

490
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,120
we're from. 
You know what I mean? 

491
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,840
And I drive around with a 
fucking sticker on my fucking. 

492
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,120
Dave has a giant mural of 
criminal AF on the side of his 

493
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,440
car. 
By the way, guys, if you ever, 

494
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,360
if you ever in Connecticut, 
you're looking around. 

495
00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,800
Do you want to? 
Know well it's got one of those 

496
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,800
fucking scan things so people 
can. 

497
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,720
Yeah, so you you do get afraid. 
I I've thought about it, yeah, 

498
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,120
not afraid, but I've thought 
about it. 

499
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,280
Somebody who's just like, you 
know what? 

500
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,320
Fuck these guys. 
Yeah, fuck these motherfuckers. 

501
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,520
I, I think also he's asking 
like, as you do research and 

502
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,040
you, you, you listen to these 
stories, you hear these horrific

503
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,880
crimes, Are you afraid for your 
family for something? 

504
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,120
Bad in general. 
In general. 

505
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,640
Not just because I got podcast 
and stuff like that. 

506
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,280
He's also saying this and I 
agree with you. 

507
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,240
Yes, 100. 
Percent it has. 

508
00:22:58,360 --> 00:22:59,720
It has opened my eyes a little 
bit. 

509
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,160
You know, daughter, wife, the 
whole 9. 

510
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,040
My son. 
I have young kids and it's 

511
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,680
terrifying. 
But I will tell you this. 

512
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,600
Come to my house motherfucker. 
I swear to God I can hit 1/4 at 

513
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:18,600
50 yards, baby. 50. 
And my wife can shoot too. 

514
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:24,240
All right, so sorry it took 
fucking 18 months to get to your

515
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,480
fucking question, Michael 
McHugh, but that was actually a 

516
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,880
fucking very thought provoking, 
which spawned off into a fucking

517
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,080
other conversation. 
I will say though, it, it does. 

518
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,320
I hear, I hear these stories and
stuff like that and I just 

519
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,800
think, and my, my, my wife does 
see, my wife watches. 

520
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,720
It's just like all of the people
that listen to this podcast. 

521
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,840
She's a huge true crime fan and 
she just consumes every single 

522
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,240
episode and and Netflix special 
and Amazon Prime special and it 

523
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,560
just it's in her head. 
She'll she'll she'll hear a 

524
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,440
noise at night and jump up like 
she'll have terrors in the 

525
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,920
night. 
It's like you you psych yourself

526
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,520
out when you listen to this 
shit. 24/7. 

527
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,640
Like since since we've been 
doing, you know, this podcast, 

528
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,080
you know, there's definitely 
things that I pick up on, like 

529
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,800
if I'm leaving, like the store, 
I'll see if there's something 

530
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,000
like a, a, a note left on my 
fucking windshield, which is a 

531
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,880
true sight. 
Listen from criminal AF. 

532
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,040
If you ever walk out of a store 
and there's a flyer or a note to

533
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,760
your windshield, you know, 
underneath your windshield 

534
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,800
wiper, get in your car and drive
away. 

535
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,760
Don't, don't waste your time 
trying to get the fucking thing 

536
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,560
off you. 
Fucking no. 

537
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760
I mean, get to a safe place and 
take it, you know what I mean? 

538
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,680
Because that's a plight too for 
sex, you know, human 

539
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,800
trafficking, you know, they put 
these things. 

540
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,720
So when you get out the fucking 
take it off your fucking 

541
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,560
windshield. 
They're like they swipe you up 

542
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760
and fucking take you out in the 
fucking white van, you know? 

543
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,800
So there there are certain 
things I pick up on. 

544
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,720
Yeah. 
So again, thank you very much, 

545
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,480
Michael. 
Sorry it took so long to fucking

546
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,520
answer that question. 
Finally, we have Holly Moe and 

547
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,920
she has some rapid fire 
questions. 

548
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,880
Garrett. 
Rapid fire go. 10 for me, 10. 10

549
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,520
for me, 10 for you. 
OK, we split them up. 

550
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,400
OK, so I'm going to ask you 
first. 

551
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,720
OK. 
All right. 

552
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,680
Virtue or sin? 
Sin. 

553
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,920
Baby. 
Yeah, that's what I'm talking 

554
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,960
about, all right. 
I like. 

555
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,440
I like to sin. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

556
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,320
All right. 
Name four of the seven dwarfs. 

557
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:14,960
Sleepy, Grumpy, Bashful, dopey. 
OK. 

558
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,280
Boom, there you go. 
Do you want to live forever? 

559
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,520
No, no, no, I'm I've I've told 
you this. 

560
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,400
I think I've told you this. 
I don't plan on living till I'm 

561
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,360
100 and fucking like. 
Shitting yourself? 

562
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:32,120
No, I, I, I told my kids that at
the moment I shit myself like 

563
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,680
without knowing that I shit 
myself. 

564
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,360
Like if I'm just sitting there, 
I'm just like. 

565
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,200
Oh yeah, just put me out fucking
put. 

566
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,400
I don't wanna. 
I don't wanna live like that. 

567
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,800
Yeah, I don't wanna be in a 
home. 

568
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,600
I don't wanna be. 
I don't wanna be a burden on my 

569
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,360
fucking kids and their kids and.
All the moment somebody has to 

570
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:47,480
wipe my ass, I'm fucking out. 
I'm going to pull a I'm going to

571
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,560
pull a man called Auto. 
I'm going to go hang out and 

572
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,800
listen to The Beach Boys in the 
car in the garage while the 

573
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,600
fucking lot of. 
Tubes in there. 

574
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,280
Fucking done. 
Call it funny. 

575
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,160
That's not funny. 
I shouldn't joke. 

576
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,680
Around call it no. 
I mean that's not what I want 

577
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,400
to. 
I don't want to live for like 

578
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,280
till I'm super old. 
Or. 

579
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,720
Forever and see everybody that I
love and care about. 

580
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,640
And then you're just by yourself
as an old man. 

581
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,960
No, that's that sounds horrible.
Yeah, it's awful. 

582
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:16,760
Yeah. 
All right. 

583
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,840
All right. 
Rapid fire. 

584
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,920
Rapid fire. 
All right. 

585
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,680
What's what's for dinner 
tonight? 

586
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,440
Black people, Mac and. 
Cheese. 

587
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,320
It's good, too. 
I had some. 

588
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,640
Kelly made it. 
Damn, she was on point with that

589
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,960
fucking Mac and cheese. 
Yeah. 

590
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,680
All right. 
How many pull ups can you do in 

591
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,080
a row? 
How? 

592
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,640
Many pull ups. 
God, it's been so long since I 

593
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,600
tried that. 
I don't know 20. 

594
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,080
You feel confident you could do 
20. 

595
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,440
To 20 I'm I'm not. 
I don't weigh much. 

596
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,480
It's OK, but are you strong 
enough to? 

597
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,920
Yeah, I could do 20. 
I used to be able to knock out 

598
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,120
like 35 we're. 
Gonna do a challenge. 

599
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,360
And a good on a good day. 
We're gonna do a Patreon. 

600
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:51,880
Back when I like actually was in
shape. 

601
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,600
OK, I bet you I could force 
myself to do. 20 I can. 

602
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Mind over matter even if I'm 
starting to struggle at like 10.

603
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,600
All right, mark this down. 
We're gonna do a Patreon 

604
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,040
exclusive video. 
I. 

605
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,040
Will beat you in pull ups. 
I can't do one. 

606
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,560
OK. 
Yeah, I'm just saying you're, 

607
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,840
you're committing the 20, you're
committing the 20 pull ups. 

608
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,360
All right, I. 
All right, we're gonna we're 

609
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,360
gonna do a video of Garrett. 
Body weight to mass ratio it 

610
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:12,560
work. 
I've always been good at pull 

611
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040
ups. 
OK, I'm not saying I'm strong. 

612
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,920
Underhand or overhand? 
Underhand. 

613
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Yeah, I actually overhand's 
easier. 

614
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:19,880
Yeah. 
No, no. 

615
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,480
No, no, no, no, no, you said, 
you said. 

616
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,160
Overhand, overhand. 
Nope, you said underhand. 

617
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,040
Underhand pull up 20 of them. 
Over overhand. 

618
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,000
No. 
OK. 

619
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,040
All right. 
Next question. 

620
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,840
Next question. 
All right, tea or coffee? 

621
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,920
Coffee. 
That's not even a quick I love 

622
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,960
tea. 
I do like a Chai tea I. 

623
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,560
Love tea, but coffee? 
Coffee. 

624
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,080
Are reindeers real creatures? 
Yes. 

625
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,000
Yes they are. 
Yes, they are. 

626
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:41,920
Do they fly? 
No. 

627
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,800
No, but they're real. 
Say something in an Asian 

628
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,480
language, I can do it. 
Go ahead, say what? 

629
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,320
No. 
This is your question. 

630
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,680
What do you I want to see you 
do? 

631
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,480
What's that? 
Like hi, how are you that's. 

632
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,880
Nihoma. 
Nihoma. 

633
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,800
That's Chinese. 
I'm doing Japanese. 

634
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840
Oh, you're doing Japanese. 
Oh, OK. 

635
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,280
All right. 
That's Japanese. 

636
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Yeah. 
If we have any Japanese. 

637
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,720
Yeah. 
Can we? 

638
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,080
Can we? 
OK. 

639
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,440
All right. 
Do you? 

640
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,440
Do you respect Kanye West? 
No, no, I didn't even like Kanye

641
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,760
when he was cool. 
Sorry. 

642
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Go ahead. 
All right, what's the fastest 

643
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,200
speed you ever driven a car? 
Was it on a car? 

644
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,480
Street bike 167. 
On a bike. 

645
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:32,000
On a 167 I think I hit before I 
let go 167 ish and it was on a 

646
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,480
motorcycle. 
And it's, I'm telling you right 

647
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,160
now, anybody, anybody who rides.
Let's listen to the podcast. 

648
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,160
I understand there's no better 
fucking thrill in this world. 

649
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240
167. 
Yeah, the tunnel vision that you

650
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,200
get goes on AR 11000 litre bike.
Oh, dude. 

651
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,960
Then you get this tunnel vision 
where like the helmet, just it, 

652
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,960
you can only see out of like a 
pinhole. 

653
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,160
Yeah. 
And then you just know like that

654
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,600
that rush, I'm telling you. 
How old were you jump out of an 

655
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,600
airplane? 
I don't know. 20s 2020, 2/23. 

656
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Oh, that's still dumb. 
Young, dumb, full of cum fucking

657
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,040
that. 
Was still a dumb age. 

658
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Oh, no, not now. 

659
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,240
You crazy. 
When I got my I, I got. 

660
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840
When I got my in my motorcycle 
accident, I was only doing like 

661
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000
40 miles an hour. 
I just got fucked. 

662
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,200
But yeah, yeah, like one yeah, 
167, I think it's on R12 

663
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,120
thousand and four R1. 
Do you want to talk about bike? 

664
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,280
You want to talk about your 
accident? 

665
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,000
No, no, that's all right. 
No, we have a lot of people that

666
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,120
would be like a. 
Lot of dog fans here. 

667
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,880
I did. 
I hit AII murdered a A1 year old

668
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,720
Johnny. 
Shepherd puppy guys Garrett. 

669
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,920
I tore my ACL, tore my meniscus,
broke my left hand. 

670
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,040
Permanent. 
Nerve damage. 

671
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,120
Yeah, but the dog ran into me, 
to be honest. 

672
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,080
So yeah, it was a it was a 
brutal time. 

673
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,480
Minding its own business, here 
comes Garrett. 

674
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,440
Just cruising at 40. 
But yeah, 167, that's the 

675
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,120
answer. 
All right, all right, on a 

676
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,640
motorcycle. 
Yeah, we got, we got some for 

677
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,520
me. 
All right, here we go. 

678
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,800
Yep, God. 
All right, Do not fuck this up, 

679
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,400
please, because I know you're 
going to not. 

680
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,000
Yo, this is going to piss me 
off. 

681
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000
The first question. 
Godfather of Star Wars 

682
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Godfather. 
Why? 

683
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,880
All right, you want to know why?
Cinematic masterpiece. 

684
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,560
One of the greatest arcs in the 
fucking entire cinematic 

685
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,280
universe. 
But. 

686
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,000
OK, we'll go with. 
Godfather, go ahead all. 

687
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Right, It's a good movie. 
Who's the Who's the guy that 

688
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,320
plays Anakin Skywalker? 
Hayden Christensen. 

689
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,880
Yeah, awful, awful fucking 
acting. 

690
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,360
I won't say that. 
No. 

691
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,800
Is the scripts suck for him? 
His words suck all right. 

692
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,200
We're not going into a movie. 
So, well, in my generation, the 

693
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,240
1-2 and three, which is then 
turned into 3-4 and five. 

694
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,120
Yes, Empire Strikes. 
Back it goes 3-4 and five came 

695
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640
out first. 
Right. 1-2 and three came out 

696
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,320
next. 
OK, three, yeah, 3-4 and five S 

697
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,600
the ones I grew up with. 
Awesome, groundbreaking, amazing

698
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,800
fuck. 
So then they came out with the 

699
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,840
with the Hayden Christensen 
ones. 

700
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Yes, the prequels. 
So they came out with the 

701
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,800
prequels awful, awful fucking 
acting. 

702
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,160
It was just like, it's like Fast
and the Furious with fucking 

703
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960
Paul Walker when he's like bro 
bro bro like every fucking 2 

704
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,760
seconds. 
Hayden Christensen in that 

705
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,280
fucking role was just fucking 
awful. 

706
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,120
Now when you start getting into 
like Jar Jar Binks. 

707
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,720
Yeah, of course it was ground 
breaking CGI at that point. 

708
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,360
They didn't know what to. 
Do those are good? 

709
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,600
But that was the worst. 
No, Jar Jar Binks is the 

710
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,080
greatest fucking. 
Star Wars. 

711
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,320
Character. 
You're gonna, you're gonna, 

712
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,320
you're gonna annoy me. 
No. 

713
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,320
You're. 
Gonna annoy me. 

714
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,800
Jar jar. 
No me. 

715
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,640
Saw me. 
Star Wars and I love Now I will 

716
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920
say this before you go on the 
the fact that the prequels are 

717
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880
getting love now because they 
were shit on by the boomers that

718
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,160
liked the original Star Wars 
back in the day. 

719
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,360
I'm not a boomer. 
I know I'm talking about your 

720
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,240
like even older than that, like 
the people that were like, oh, I

721
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,920
love Star Wars and all that 
stuff, but they're, they were 

722
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,600
getting, they got shit on back 
in the the late 90s, early 2000s

723
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,200
whenever they came out. 
They're getting love now. 

724
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680
And I like that because they 
deserve it. 

725
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,960
The Revenge of the Sith is the 
one of the greatest I. 

726
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Would say the story. 
The story is good, I like the 

727
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,160
story of it, but Anakin? 
Go back and watch it. 

728
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,720
All right. 
Next. 

729
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,240
Next. 
Question. 

730
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,920
I can't do it. 
I can't you. 

731
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,360
You're asking me? 
Godfather, You're right. 

732
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,200
All right, Godfather. 
But from Godfather. 

733
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,880
'S great movie I'm. 
Not 1-2 and three Godfather, 

734
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,960
yeah. 
Yeah, but I'd say. *. 

735
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,120
Wars is just. 
Three as a whole is just. 

736
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,920
Oh my. 
Three kinds. 

737
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,640
It's so good all. 
Right, Godfather, do you like 

738
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,480
the word dapper? 
I do use it. 

739
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,800
You're looking pretty dapper. 
You say that a Cole. 

740
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,040
I've heard you say that a couple
times. 

741
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,400
All right, Garrett I. 
Like Dapper? 

742
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,760
You look pretty dapper. 
Dapper's nice. 

743
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:43,720
Big dogs, small dogs or no dogs?
I've had big dogs, I've always 

744
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,040
had big dogs. 
I've had, you know. 

745
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,960
Well, what? 
What do you consider Big Dog? 

746
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,560
Like pit pit bull. 
That's not shepherd. 

747
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,720
I don't. 
See, I don't think those are 

748
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,120
big. 
Dogs, but mine were big. 

749
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,400
German Shepherds can get pretty 
big, but pitbulls are are fairly

750
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,600
small. 
No, mine was. 

751
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,240
They're heavy. 
Mine wasn't eat, but they're not

752
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,080
big dog. 
Mine wasn't like a full pit. 

753
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,760
It was a pit mix. 
OK, so it was, it was a decent 

754
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080
size. 
So now that I'm getting older, I

755
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,680
would say I want a nice small 
dog I can cuddle with. 

756
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Yeah, you know, come on up in my
lap. 

757
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,000
I like medium dogs. 
Yeah. 

758
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,600
Like on Yeah, you know what I 
mean? 

759
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320
Like that, that £30 range, 30 to
40 lbs. 

760
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,840
Big enough to like, you know, 
like you're the Yorkies that you

761
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,760
deal with. 
Like you have to like lift. 

762
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,040
Them up and fucking help them 
around the house and shit like 

763
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,920
that. 
Like I just. 

764
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,560
I want a dog that can fend for 
itself and won't get taken away 

765
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
from a hawk. 
That is, that is, that is, That 

766
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,600
is not what. 
I'm saying but like, it's not. 

767
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,720
So big that they're knocking the
fucking your drink off the night

768
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,120
stand. 
And I like a medium sized dog. 

769
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,680
My favorite dog of all time is a
boxer I fucking love. 

770
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Boxers, yeah, they just got so 
much. 

771
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,240
Energy. 
I fucking love boxers, but the 

772
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,600
older I get, I don't have the 
energy to to deal with those 

773
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,160
high energy dogs, you know? 
So I just want a nice little 

774
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,320
dog. 
I'd sit in my lap. 

775
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,200
Dude I love a good Chihuahua. 
People hate on chihuahuas, I 

776
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,560
love them. 
I love this. 

777
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,800
There's so much fucking. 
Especially the chihuahuas with 

778
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,560
their eyes are like going in 
different directions. 

779
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,680
And bug the fuck out. 
You. 

780
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,840
Got a big ass apple. 
Head your head. 

781
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,440
'S bigger than their fucking. 
Body all right. 

782
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,360
I like them all right. 
How many hours of sleep do you 

783
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,520
need? 
Four, I can get by in four hours

784
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,480
of sleep. 
You're grumpy. 

785
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,800
You're a little grumpy goose on 
4 Hours me. 

786
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,800
Yeah, get a little order. 
You're a. 

787
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,120
Little grumpy you need 6. 
I I can never get six though. 

788
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,920
I know my my longest is 4 hours 
at a clip. 

789
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,960
Like if I have a if I have a 
whole day off like I can do 

790
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,080
sleep 4 hours I'm up then I'll 
take a nap. 

791
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,679
But I can never, for some 
fucking reason, I can never 

792
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,320
sleep more than four hours. 
Ever. 

793
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,000
And then you wake up. 
Will you go back to bed though? 

794
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,159
Sometimes. 
Sometimes. 

795
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,719
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm like 6. 
If I get as long as I get six, I

796
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,239
can function fine. 
Anything less than six, I'm 

797
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,600
fucking miserable. 
Are women complicated? 

798
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,640
Abso fucking. 
Lutely. 

799
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,880
Abso fucking lutely. 
I can't figure them out for 

800
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,080
nothing. 
I'm like fucking going on. 

801
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,120
I'll be 50 next week and I still
haven't figured them out, you 

802
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,200
know? 
I mean, I know what. 

803
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,120
Button's supposed you know what 
I'm saying, but. 

804
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Giggity, Giggity. 
Giggity, Giggity. 

805
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,320
Yeah, I don't know. 
It's it's complicated. 

806
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,120
I'll say yes, they are 
complicated. 

807
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,640
Oh wait, I'm asking you. 
Never mind. 

808
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,880
No. 
No, no, Let's hear. 

809
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,840
It No, no, no. 
Where's Kelly? 

810
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,160
Kelly No. 
No, no, I'll say, I'll say, 

811
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,360
well, yes, of course women are 
complicated, just like men are 

812
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,920
women, men are to them. 
But I feel like it's, it's not 

813
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,760
complicated to understand what 
you need to do to stay out of 

814
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,280
the hot seat. 
Do you know what I mean? 

815
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,120
I think it's very, very complex.
But I think a lot of men don't 

816
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,320
do the bare necessities to stay 
out of. 

817
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,320
The bare minimum. 
The bare Yeah, they like. 

818
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,960
They won't. 
Bare necessities. 

819
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,040
A simple bareness. 
That's not what you want to do 

820
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,000
to oh. 
Yeah. 

821
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,880
Lucy will like this one. 
All right, Lucy, say good day 

822
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,520
mate. 
In an Australian accent. 

823
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,480
You just did it for me. 
Go. 

824
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,720
Ahead. 
No, I needed you to do it. 

825
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Good day mate. 
Oh, you actually your sounds 

826
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,320
pretty good. 
Crikey. 

827
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,160
Crikey, golf. 
I'm a little bit dark and 

828
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,360
mysterious a. 
Little bit dark mystery. 

829
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,480
I'm a dark and twisted. 
The Australian accent is so. 

830
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,600
Good dude, it's. 
So good. 

831
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,040
Look at these wild Crocs. 
No, that was fucking awful. 

832
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,760
All right, I, I love. 
On the spectrum, Australia just 

833
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,200
changed my mind on the 
Australian accent for sure. 

834
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,440
Love on the spectrum. 
Australia is hands down the 

835
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,920
greatest fucking show. 
The greatest show? 

836
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,880
I will say it's top three shows 
to ever come out on Netflix. 

837
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:38,960
Ever. 
Ever. 

838
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,040
Like. 
Oh, it's so good. 

839
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Blows the US version the US. 
Version sucks and that stupid 

840
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,520
animation bitch that I hate so 
much. 

841
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,320
Sorry. 
I just spit out his beard. 

842
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,240
I like animation. 
I'm. 

843
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,760
Sorry I can't make. 
What's your favorite carb? 

844
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,560
But sadly, you know what I would
bang? 

845
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:10,840
The fucking weirdo. 
All right. 

846
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,840
So what was it? 
What's your boyfriend's name? 

847
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,240
What's I don't? 
Know, I don't know. 

848
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Oh man, but while he watches. 
All right, what's your favorite?

849
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,080
He's a he's a purple fucking 
blue for sponge. 

850
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,720
What's your favorite car? 
Bread, pasta, rice or potatoes? 

851
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,280
Oh, I'm going. 
To go with pasta. 

852
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Pasta that's fits. 
Yeah, that fits. 

853
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,120
That fits. 
You can't beat it. 

854
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,200
Oh God, potatoes close second. 
Potatoes. 

855
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Good, because you can just do so
much with it. 

856
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,880
Yeah. 
All right. 

857
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,040
If you could ask God one 
question, what would it be? 

858
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Oh God. 
Oh, this would be a good 

859
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,320
question for you, Garrett. 
No, go ahead. 

860
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,480
No, if I could ask God one 
question, what would it be? 

861
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,200
Wow, can you make my penis 
bigger? 

862
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,240
Yeah, but how big? 
Do you? 

863
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,800
Why did you make me average? 
You don't want inches averages 

864
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,920
is fair. 
You don't want fucking. 

865
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,160
All. 
Right. 

866
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,440
Yeah, Yeah. 
No, I'm. 

867
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,960
I'm, I'm not joking. 
I would ask that. 

868
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,800
Yeah. 
All right, Next up. 

869
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Stale Sour Patch Kids or fresh 
circus peanuts. 

870
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,280
What the fuck? 
Fresh circus peanuts. 

871
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,520
Well, you don't like peanuts 
from the circus. 

872
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,680
No. 
You got to crack them open. 

873
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,720
Yeah. 
And then there's like, people 

874
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,520
are just feeding like pigs in 
the fucking stands. 

875
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,840
There's like, you got to walk 
through Peanut, No? 

876
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,920
You would eat stale sour patch 
kids. 

877
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,880
What it really? 
Fuck a circus peanut. 

878
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,440
Dude. 
That's the worst. 

879
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,280
When you go to a bar that allows
people to just, like, chop. 

880
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,640
Yeah, and you give all the. 
Shit adds to the ambience. 

881
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,120
No. 
Yeah, it's. 

882
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Gross. 
I don't know. 

883
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,280
Paper. 
Plastic. 

884
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,440
I do enjoy a good plastic. 
I miss plastic straws. 

885
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,200
What do you mean? 
I miss plastic straws. 

886
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:55,600
You're. 
Drinking. 

887
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,760
I'm drinking on a plastic straw 
right now. 

888
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,480
You're saying how like 
Starbucks? 

889
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,360
Yeah, the paper straws are 
fucking an awful creation. 

890
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,640
Oh, they're the worst. 
They're the worst. 

891
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,520
They don't make any sense to me.
Yeah, I like Styrofoam. 

892
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,760
Yeah, Styrofoam. 
Styrofoam cups or there's 

893
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,160
nothing like a cold like an ice 
cold drink out of a Styrofoam 

894
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,440
cup. 
I don't care what anyone says. 

895
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,240
There's I do miss the Duncan 
coffees in the Styrofoam cup. 

896
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Yes, Duncan used to. 
Oh, the Duncan coffee was tasted

897
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,480
better in the Styrofoam. 
Cup. 

898
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,200
Yeah, 100%. 
I agree. 

899
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,800
Yeah, All right. 
Yeah. 

900
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,600
Plastic slash Styrofoam. 
Styrofoam was the shit. 

901
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:32,880
Too bad it's like bad for the. 
Environment and they're like, 

902
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,280
yeah, OK. 
And I get it. 

903
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,800
All right, Yeah. 
So that was pretty good. 

904
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,600
I love, I love, I love rapid 
fire. 

905
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,680
I liked it. 
Yeah. 

906
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,600
So if you guys got any rapid 
fire questions you want to ask 

907
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,200
us, send them in. 
That wasn't really rapid fire. 

908
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,800
But it wasn't. 
But it's good. 

909
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,600
Yeah. 
I like it. 

910
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,480
I like those questions. 
All right. 

911
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,640
Thank you, Holly. 
Thank you very much, Holly, and 

912
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,720
all of all of everybody who sent
them in. 

913
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:55,840
You know, that was great. 
To send us in questions for a 

914
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,640
future episode, just go to 
criminalasfuck.com and click on 

915
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,280
the Send It In tab. 
All right, let's go to Florida. 

916
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,240
Let's do it. 
What in the fuck is going on in 

917
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:22,600
Florida? 
Martin County, Florida A naked 

918
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,600
man crashed his car into a 
Florida jail, saying he wanted 

919
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,320
to kill everybody. 
Hey, that's like down, that's 

920
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,600
Jensen Beach area, Port Port 
Saint Lucie. 

921
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,360
My one of my best friends lives 
there. 

922
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,640
Port Saint Lucie, all right. 
A video shows a car crashing 

923
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,480
into the lobby of a Florida jail
that was driven by a man who 

924
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,600
authorities said was naked from 
waist down and threatened to 

925
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,520
kill officers. 
The incident happened late 

926
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,520
Monday night at the lobby of the
Martin County Jail when a 40 

927
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,920
year old Joseph Leedy drove his 
car through the entrance, the 

928
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,960
sheriff officer said. 
Surveillance videos released by 

929
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,560
the Sheriff's Office showed the 
Toyota sedan slamming into the 

930
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,720
front doors. 
Leeny got out of his car wearing

931
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,160
a woman's blouse in no peace. 
Then. 

932
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,920
Poured motor oil on the floor 
and said he wanted to set it on 

933
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,240
fire. 
Authority said he also made 

934
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:13,600
homicidal statements about 
police officers and said he 

935
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,440
wanted to kill everyone and 
threw rubber stakes on the 

936
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,760
floor. 
Shut the fuck? 

937
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,440
I'm not kidding. 
This is not. 

938
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,480
This is real dude. 
Imagine being the guy working 

939
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,960
the front desk at the fucking 
intake. 

940
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,680
What? 
The. 

941
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Fuck, Authority said while our 
deputies were interacting with 

942
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,680
him, he kept saying things like 
the devil told me to kill 

943
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,360
everyone. 
And he kept, oh, that's a pussy 

944
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,520
way out, though we all know 
that's a pussy way out. 

945
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,480
And he kept sharing his disdain 
for President Donald Trump. 

946
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Fuck Donald Trump. 
Chief Deputy John Burdinsky said

947
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,840
at the news conference Tuesday, 
according to WPTY. 

948
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:50,480
Lady fought the deputies in Fire
Rescue before he was tased. 

949
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,520
He fought fire. 
He got deputies and the Fire 

950
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,240
Rescue. 
He was going out. 

951
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,320
He's like throwing fucking 
rubber snakes everywhere. 

952
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,120
He's like. 
Dropping oil, dropping oil. 

953
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,800
He was eventually restrained and
taken into the hospital, 

954
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,040
Burdensky said. 
Paramedics gave lady multiple 

955
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,240
doses of ketamine to calm down. 
Damn I wish I was him. 

956
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,480
You get a free K hole trip if 
you. 

957
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,520
Fucking. 
Wig out, but it did not sedate 

958
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,680
him. 
That's kind of even crazier. 

959
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,840
He was later. 
He had to be on fucking like 

960
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,960
some synthetic. 
Shit, he was probably doing some

961
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,000
PCP. 
He was later booked into jail on

962
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,640
charges of aggravated assault on
a law enforcement officer and 

963
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,440
criminal mischief. 
That's it for driving his car. 

964
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Into a jail. 
Yeah, and we'll, we'll pull the 

965
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,640
video, The pictures, the video's
wild. 

966
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,280
Yeah, it's in. 
There, officials said no one was

967
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,640
in the lobby at the time of the 
crash, but the incident caused 

968
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:42,080
thousands of dollars of damages.
Burdensky said authorities 

969
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,920
believe Leadie was under the 
influence of controlled 

970
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,760
substance, but they're awaiting.
These results. 

971
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,600
The medication that a normal 
person would be sedated by was 

972
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,520
not affecting him at all. 
That does lead to us to believe 

973
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,680
they built up a tolerance 
between two different types of 

974
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,800
drugs, Burdensky said. 
So he had a tolerance to 

975
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,600
ketamine, which they were 
fucking dumping into his fucking

976
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,160
body. 
Yeah. 

977
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,880
And then? 
That's so interesting. 

978
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,800
I didn't think I didn't know 
that that's what they would be 

979
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,200
giving people like it. 
It just goes to show how far 

980
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040
ketamine has come. 
They wouldn't give you ketamine 

981
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,680
to sedate you back in the day. 
They're starting to realize like

982
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,760
the benefits into. 
That not that you're an expert. 

983
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,280
No, I'm not an expert on 
ketamine. 

984
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,960
But what does ketamine? 
Is that a sedative you're. 

985
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Not going to give me this time. 
Is that a sedative? 

986
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,560
It is a sedative. 
It is a is it is a medicine that

987
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,680
they give horses before surgery,
almost like an adult Xanax. 

988
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,520
Oh, OK. 
You know what I'm trying to say?

989
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,080
It's a yeah. 
They use it to sedate horses and

990
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,600
large other large animals. 
It's horse powered. 

991
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,840
Tranquilizer. 
Xanax, a horse tranquilizer. 

992
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,240
It's a horse tranquilizer. 
It's not Xanax but I'm just 

993
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:47,120
saying it would be the 
equivalent of like calming. 

994
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,600
So they're giving this guy a 
horse tranquilizer, a horse 

995
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,080
tranquer, and it's not even 
fucking effective. 

996
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,720
But that's the thing that 
affects people different than it

997
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:56,040
does horses, because a horse 
doesn't trip. 

998
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Actually, who knows? 
A horse might trip balls when 

999
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,480
they're on ketamine. 
They just don't. 

1000
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,400
You can't tell you that they're 
tripping balls, but it'll put 

1001
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,360
you in AK hole which is like 
you're just. 

1002
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,640
Zoom you're. 
In a, you're in a. 

1003
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,800
Fucking you're in a whole other 
world, you trip. 

1004
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,040
It's a psychedelic at the end of
the day, even though it's 

1005
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,960
considered a something, it's 
considered something else. 

1006
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,520
But it it gives off 
hallucinizations and all that 

1007
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,080
other. 
Stuff, but you're not an expert.

1008
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,240
But no, I'm not an expert. 
I'm not. 

1009
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:19,920
It's just, it's just tough. 
All right, go ahead. 

1010
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:27,280
Next episode lead in. 
Oh, man. 

1011
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,800
All right. 
I I I don't understand the 

1012
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,040
snakes though, and the oil, the 
motor oil and the I get that. 

1013
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,720
Maybe trying? 
To Oh, you're trying to start a 

1014
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:38,280
fire for the fire. 
Yeah, but. 

1015
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,200
But yeah, the snakes or or. 
Do you know wild that has to be 

1016
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,520
as? 
Like that that's. 

1017
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,080
Yeah. 
You listen, you go. 

1018
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,600
You decide as a as a like a 
career choice that you're going 

1019
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,160
to help, you're going to do 
something good. 

1020
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,800
You've been a police officer. 
Yes, yeah. 

1021
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,560
Yeah, you, you go through months
of training, you go through on 

1022
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,360
on job training, you see some 
wild shit, but then you see this

1023
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,760
guy bust through and throw motor
oil snakes in a blouse with his 

1024
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,960
Dick out. 
And just screaming fuck Donald. 

1025
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,480
Trump. 
Like at what point? 

1026
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,200
Did police officers just say 
like, I don't? 

1027
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,200
I'm throwing it up. 
I'm done. 

1028
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,440
I'm over. 
I'm over this. 

1029
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,800
Yeah. 
Sir. 

1030
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,760
Sir. 
And then he's not like you're 

1031
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,400
trying to give him ketamine, 
He's not coming down. 

1032
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,080
You're tasing him. 
He's fucking fight like. 

1033
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,720
Yeah. 
It's a crazy job. 

1034
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,600
It's a wild job. 
I, I still, I give out every, 

1035
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,880
every shout out to police 
officers out. 

1036
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,400
There when I was, when I was 
younger, I actually applied to 

1037
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,360
be a police officer pretty much 
all through high school at you 

1038
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,000
know, all that, like I wanted to
be a cop. 

1039
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,920
That was my like, my goal, you 
know? 

1040
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,000
Same. 
Today, like I have to like, hand

1041
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,160
it to people. 
Oh yeah. 

1042
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,280
Who become police officers 
today? 

1043
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,680
Especially the ones that like 
we, we know fucking. 

1044
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,400
Wild. 
Like they're out on injuries. 

1045
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,280
I think it's it's. 
It's wild to be a cop right now.

1046
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,160
Wild. 
The pay is good, but it doesn't 

1047
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,320
pay that good to deal with the 
shit that they have to deal 

1048
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,840
with. 
Yeah, yeah, it's just fucking 

1049
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,920
out of control. 
It's like a Wild West now, for 

1050
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,120
real. 
But anyway, yeah. 

1051
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:10,520
Guy in a blouse with his. 
Dick Guy in a. 

1052
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,480
Blouse with his Dick out saying 
woo let me throw these snakes 

1053
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,120
this ones connected to me I 
can't fucking throw this one but

1054
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,760
anyway, yeah that was a fucking 
wild one all right all right so 

1055
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,960
let's get into this story about 
arguably the worst serial 

1056
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,440
killing pedophile we. 
Were having fun and now we got 

1057
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,520
to talk about a fucking the the 
one of the worst. 

1058
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,880
Now we got to talk about this 
fucking dude. 

1059
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,160
And so like, I avoided this 
story like the fucking plague 

1060
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,280
because I just don't like doing.
I I remember bringing it up to 

1061
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,360
you. 
We should do Albert fish and 

1062
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,320
you're like. 
Fuck that. 

1063
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,800
No. 
No, no, fuck that guy. 

1064
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,360
But, you know, it's been widely 
requested. 

1065
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,840
And our good friend Debbie from 
True Crime University, she just 

1066
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,440
so happened to have written this
story, you know, before, and she

1067
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,560
asked us if we'd like to do it. 
Yep, you know she had it 

1068
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,680
written. 
Thank you, Debbie. 

1069
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,640
No, she didn't. 
She didn't end up doing it. 

1070
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,000
So she was like, hey, you guys 
can take this. 

1071
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,440
So thank you very much, Debbie, 
for sending us this story. 

1072
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,840
So tuck your kids in the bed, 
give them a kiss in the forehead

1073
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,040
and tell them to never take 
candy from a boomer named Albert

1074
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,320
because it's time to fuck this 
episode in the mouth. 

1075
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,520
What do you say, Garrett? 
Let's go, Let's do it. 

1076
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,560
All right, so this is a story of
Hamilton Howard Fish. 

1077
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,120
He was born May 19th, 1870 in 
the United States capital of 

1078
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,400
Washington, DC. 
His parents were Ellen, age 32, 

1079
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,000
and Randall, who at the time of 
Hamilton's birth was 75 years 

1080
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,640
old. 
Yes, you heard that right. 75. 

1081
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,120
75 fucking years old. 43 years 
older than his wife. 

1082
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,880
I, I, I hope I can still get it 
up at 75, You know, I mean, I 

1083
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,480
can't have kids. 
I mean, there's always blue 

1084
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,960
chew. 
Yeah, you can get, but not. 

1085
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,080
Not back in the 1800s, yeah. 
This dude's all. 

1086
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,800
Natural baby, that guy. 
That guy was built. 

1087
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,640
This dude was fucking ready to 
fucking spread his seed. 

1088
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,960
All right, so Hamilton had three
older siblings, Walter, Annie, 

1089
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,120
and Edwin. 
Another brother, Albert, had 

1090
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,040
died in infancy long before 
Hamilton was even a fucking 

1091
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,400
thought. 
He was still swimming around in 

1092
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,440
his daddy's 75 year old nuts. 
Hamilton was born in a long line

1093
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,240
of mentally ill people, 
including his mother, uncle, 

1094
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,880
brother and sister, and had all 
been diagnosed with some sort of

1095
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,880
mental health condition. 
The family patriarch, Randall, 

1096
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,480
was a riverboat captain and a 
fertilized manufacturer who died

1097
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,160
in October of 1875, when 
Hamilton was just five years 

1098
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,760
old. 
It's such a 1875 job title A. 

1099
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Riverboat. 
Captain, He's a riverboat. 

1100
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,360
Captain. 
I lost my kid on a riverboat 

1101
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,920
gambling trip. 
So, yeah, he died when Hamilton 

1102
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,680
was just five years old, leaving
Ellen alone with all four 

1103
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,000
children. 
And back then, being a single 

1104
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,320
mom, kids totally different, 
were rough. 

1105
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,360
It was totally different. 
Yeah. 

1106
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,200
So it says he died from senile 
debility, which is an old timey 

1107
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,480
way of saying he died of heart 
disease like. 

1108
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,600
Wow, same as hair. 
You died of senile debiliters, 

1109
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:05,080
hey? 
So Ellen was unable to care for 

1110
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,760
the kids and she placed them in 
St. 

1111
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,640
John's orphanage, a decision 
that would would result in 

1112
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,040
fucking disaster. 
Now both the staff and other 

1113
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,880
children harassed and abused 
Hamilton physically, sexually, 

1114
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,000
and emotionally. 
And because they're all bratty 

1115
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,080
kids who come up with stupid 
nicknames, they called him Ham 

1116
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,280
and Eggs Ham and Eggs Hamilton. 
To alleviate this, he started 

1117
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,160
using his dead brother's name. 
So from here on out, Hamilton 

1118
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,600
will now be known as Albert, 
right? 

1119
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,800
Albert would later say. 
I was there till I was nearly 

1120
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,040
nine and that's where I got 
started wrong. 

1121
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,160
We were unmercifully whipped. 
I saw boys doing things they 

1122
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,560
should not have been doing. 
Perhaps as a coping mechanism, 

1123
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,040
young Albert soon started to 
enjoy being whipped and beaten. 

1124
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,080
I don't blame him. 
And it would become visibly 

1125
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,920
aroused, resulting in more 
taunts from the other children. 

1126
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,720
He's like, oh, I, I hope you 
don't get mad at. 

1127
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:07,280
Me Who broke? 
Who broke all the chalk? 

1128
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,240
Oh, I don't know, Teacher. 
It wasn't me. 

1129
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:14,000
It wasn't me. 
Are you going to punish whoever 

1130
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
did it? 
Oh, I hope you are merciful for 

1131
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,160
those guys. 
Oh, man, eventually his mother. 

1132
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,800
That's not funny. 
But no, yeah, it was. 

1133
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Kind of Talibus is never funny. 
Yeah, it's kind of funny. 

1134
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,680
Eventually, his mother, Ellen, 
got a job with the government, 

1135
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,120
who was financially able to care
for her children again. 

1136
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,000
So Albert was brought home. 
But as we said earlier, the 

1137
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,920
damage was already done. 
You know, when Albert was 11, he

1138
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,760
fell from a tree and hit his 
head, after which he suffered 

1139
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,240
from headaches, dizziness, 
stuttering and abrupt 

1140
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,720
personality changes. 
He was also a frequent bed 

1141
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,480
wetter until he reached 
adolescence. 

1142
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,120
And as we know Garrett, that's 
one of the serial killer triad, 

1143
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,960
along with Archer and Animal. 
Literally by by write textbook 

1144
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,880
too. 
You know what's funny too is 

1145
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,080
like people are always like you 
hear the old, the old timers 

1146
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,120
saying like we were kids, we 
were climbing trees and getting 

1147
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,800
hurt all the time. 
Yeah, 'cause you we. 

1148
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,440
Had pressed our bed till we were
fucking 14. 

1149
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,640
You you banged your head and 
developed a stutter and then 

1150
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,080
started murdering. 
Kids. 

1151
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,280
Like what the like, maybe it's 
not a bad thing that we just let

1152
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,680
the kids just do whatever the 
fuck they. 

1153
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:23,360
Want it right my? 
Bad. 

1154
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,280
Go ahead, keep going. 
All right, when he was 12, 

1155
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,040
Albert had his hey, listen, this
story is very serious. 

1156
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,600
It's fucking sick. 
It's fucking pathetic. 

1157
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,800
We're trying to have fun. 
Awful. 

1158
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,120
We're we're, we're trying to 
make the best of this fucking 

1159
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,480
gruesome fucking story. 
All right, so when he was 12, 

1160
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,080
Albert had his first sexual 
encounter. 

1161
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,240
And this was with a 17 year old 
Telegraph boy who lived in an 

1162
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:46,800
apartment below him. 
Oh, so he was. 

1163
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,600
Now he's diddled. 
Jesus is. 

1164
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,760
Great, so the older boy 
introduced him to urolinasia. 

1165
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,080
Urolagnia What? 
I don't even know how to say it.

1166
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,200
Urolagnia. 
Well, it's ready, ready, ready, 

1167
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,960
ready, ready, ready, ready, 
ready. 

1168
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,040
Urolagnia. 
OK. 

1169
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,640
The older boy introduced him to 
urolagnia, which is the drinking

1170
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,720
of urine, and coprophagia, the 
consumption of feces. 

1171
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,400
Yeah, which Albert would engage 
in for the rest of his life. 

1172
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,520
Now I'm going to add, like, a 
little tidbit and fucking take 

1173
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,920
it how you will. 
So this is around the same time 

1174
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,640
of the Cleveland St. scandal, 
where in 18891890 there were 

1175
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,680
accusations and trials involving
sexual liaisons between English 

1176
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,880
aristocrats and young Telegraph 
boys in London. 

1177
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,760
They ran messages out of the 19 
Cleveland St. like post office. 

1178
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,760
That's so strange. 
Yeah, so this post office was, 

1179
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,440
you know, obviously a business 
by day and turned into a brothel

1180
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,760
of young boys that night. 
That's wild. 

1181
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,800
I understand the story that 
we're discussing today. 

1182
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,560
This happened in the US, but I'd
I'd say it's fair to assume that

1183
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,880
the 17 year old Telegraph boy 
who was screwing 12 year old 

1184
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,120
Albert and was experienced in 
the pissing and shitting on 

1185
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,120
people. 
What the? 

1186
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,560
Fuck, they haven't been involved
in a civil similar environment, 

1187
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,840
you know. 
That's just saying, you know. 

1188
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,560
Those are it translated over. 
Yeah, those are learned 

1189
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,800
behaviors. 
You know, I don't know. 

1190
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,440
Food for thought. 
Yeah, for sure. 

1191
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,880
All right, so now at the age of 
20, Albert moved to New York 

1192
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,280
City with his mother and briefly
made a living prostituting 

1193
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,400
himself to other men. 
He would later say that it was 

1194
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,320
around this time that he began 
to sexually assault children, 

1195
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,520
mainly boys. 
Before we get into the sad shit,

1196
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,480
let's just say this. 
This man was ahead of his time. 

1197
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,840
18918 What? 
What, what year? 

1198
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,680
Yeah, it's like late 1800. 
Early late 1800s and he's openly

1199
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,520
gay, you know what I mean? 
Yeah. 

1200
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,320
Ahead of us. 
Yeah, he. 

1201
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,560
Was. 
I don't know. 

1202
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:49,800
I'm just saying, you know, I'm 
trying. 

1203
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,400
I got to give him something. 
Well, hopefully you can give him

1204
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,480
chlamydia. 
I don't know. 

1205
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,280
All right, so he started. 
Yeah, I'm going. 

1206
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,200
Yeah, I know. 
I don't know what else. 

1207
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,720
I'm just saying openly gay in 
the 1800s is. 

1208
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,000
Is a about? 
Yeah. 

1209
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,400
It's a drastic thing, right? 
You would you would be killed 

1210
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,040
back then for that. 
Probably sent to an an insane 

1211
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,800
asylum, but yeah, it's not about
killed. 

1212
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Yeah, this isn't fucking 
Germany. 

1213
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,560
Where they down? 
South Hello, you're Alabama. 

1214
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,800
Come on, you're prancing around 
eating fucking shit and piss 

1215
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,640
prancing. 
Around. 

1216
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,280
Prancing around eating shit and 
piss. 

1217
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,040
They're. 
Going to kill you. 

1218
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,040
You're. 
Going to think of the devil. 

1219
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,200
OK, All right. 
He started working. 

1220
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,520
Yeah. 
All right. 

1221
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,640
All right. 
He started work as a painter, 

1222
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,200
which enabled him to move about 
to different locations. 

1223
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,320
He claims that he often lured 
children into basements of the 

1224
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:46,000
buildings he was painting. 
Around this time fish he started

1225
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,640
another hobby, which was letter 
writing, which is back in the 

1226
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,200
late 1800s, letter writing was a
hobby. 

1227
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Yeah, yeah. 
He found the addresses of adult 

1228
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,680
women in newspaper lonely hearts
ads and sent them obscene 

1229
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,800
letters filled with details of 
spanking them as well as 

1230
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,720
drinking their piss and eating 
their shit. 

1231
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:07,840
What the fuck? 
So at age 25, Albert's mother 

1232
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,600
fixed them up with 19 year old 
Anna Marie Hoffman and the two 

1233
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,880
were married not too long later.
Now over the years, Albert and 

1234
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,240
Anna had six children together, 
Albert, Junior, John, Anna, 

1235
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:22,040
Gertrude, Eugene and Henry, who 
were all raised primarily by 

1236
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,280
Anna. 
As Albert was off, you know he 

1237
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,960
often traveled for work and you 
know for for painting and did 

1238
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,080
the special trips to have sex 
with fucking boys and shit you 

1239
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,640
know he. 
Was he was a busy guy? 

1240
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,440
Yeah, Yeah. 
You know, he had, he had, you 

1241
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,400
know, things he got to do, you 
know, And so on one occasion, 

1242
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,160
one of Fish's male lovers took 
him to a museum that featured an

1243
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:47,160
exhibit of dissected and 
preserved body parts, Right. 

1244
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,800
So there was actually an an 
exhibit that was going around 

1245
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:53,080
not too long ago. 
It's called Bodies Revealed. 

1246
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,560
Do you remember that? 
Yep, I did it. 

1247
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,240
Yeah. 
That showed actual bodies, like 

1248
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:57,960
broken down into the various 
levels. 

1249
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,480
Like some had their skin 
removed, others had their entire

1250
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,480
muscular system removed to 
reveal just a nervous system. 

1251
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,000
So I went to the Connecticut 
Science Museum as a chaperone 

1252
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,720
for my daughter's 6th grade 
class years. 

1253
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,520
Like this is years ago. 
And they had two bodies, a male 

1254
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,000
and a female. 
And they were positioned, they 

1255
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:24,200
positioned a woman in a reverse 
cowgirl position on top of the 

1256
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,680
guy body. 
Right now, if I remember 

1257
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,320
correctly, they they had the 
woman's abdomen like kind of 

1258
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,160
like open so you could see the 
the penis inside, inside the 

1259
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:35,880
woman. 
What? 

1260
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,440
The fuck? 
Yeah, this is I remember. 

1261
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,920
That scene, I I went to that 
same. 

1262
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,720
Exhibit I'm actually putting it 
up on the fucking video Oh, 

1263
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:45,360
you're putting it up there yeah 
OK so now here's the thing their

1264
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,440
their real bodies donated to 
science OK so imagine being the 

1265
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:53,520
person who had to take a dead 
guy's Dick and insert it into a 

1266
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,640
dead woman's vagina and then cut
the woman's abdomen out to show 

1267
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:04,040
what it looks like to have a 
Dick inside of a woman like 

1268
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,360
imagine that being your job I. 
Don't know, that's sounds 

1269
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,920
perfect for Albert fish. 
I don't know, I just, I just 

1270
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,440
wanted to throw it at it. 
It was like fucking wild. 

1271
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,280
That's funny that you had to sit
there as a chaperone for. 

1272
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,880
For a 6th grade. 
For six girls. 

1273
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,880
Girls class. 
Yeah, look, kids. 

1274
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,000
Look. 
Kids, that's called reverse sky 

1275
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,200
girl looking. 
I'm at it. 

1276
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,080
Yeah, it was it was kind of 
awkward. 

1277
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,800
I was like, all right, so we're 
moving on, moving. 

1278
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,760
On to here. 
Look at There's the nervous 

1279
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,720
system. 
Oh wow, look at the brain. 

1280
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,320
OK, don't look at the penis. 
All right? 

1281
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,640
So back to Albert Fish. 
All right. 

1282
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,240
So he was fascinated by a 
dissected penis and became 

1283
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,360
obsessed with mutilating 
genitals throughout his life. 

1284
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,920
In 19 O3 at the age of 33, 
Albert was arrested for the 

1285
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,960
first time and convicted of 
grand larceny, for which he 

1286
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,480
served 16 months in Sing Sing 
Sing Sing Sing Sing. 

1287
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,560
While there, he acquired the 
nickname Shit Stick. 

1288
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,200
Or you could probably guess. 
Oh, he probably loves prison. 

1289
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,920
Dude what A and. 
If you can't guess why he was 

1290
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,200
called shit stick, it's because 
he liked to fuck dudes in the 

1291
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,000
ass and getting shit on his 
stick. 

1292
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,000
But anyway, I digress. 
Never mind. 

1293
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,280
Why not? 
This is this will get banned, 

1294
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,520
yeah. 
In 19. 

1295
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,240
Starts going. 
Off. 

1296
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:24,240
In in 1910, Fish met a mentally 
challenged man named Thomas 

1297
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Kedden in Delaware and held him 
captive in an abandoned barn for

1298
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,160
five weeks in what reads like a 
Penthouse Forum letter from 

1299
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,680
Hell. 
Fish later recalled the torture 

1300
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,400
he subjected Thomas to, 
including whipping, defecating 

1301
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,200
on him, and sticking needles in 
his ass. 

1302
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,400
He later recalled. 
How did he scream? 

1303
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,480
It was sweet music to my very 
soul to hear it and know that no

1304
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,040
one else could. 
I clap my hands and jumped with 

1305
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,920
joy when I heard him screaming. 
It's like straight sadism. 

1306
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,280
Yeah, he's like sadistic as 
fuck. 

1307
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,560
He's such a fucking weirdo. 
So before releasing, Thomas Fish

1308
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,960
severed his penis in half, 
bandaged it, gave him $10 and 

1309
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,280
kissed him goodbye. 
Fucking weirdo. 

1310
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,520
Yeah, like to, to to think that 
there's somebody that's even 

1311
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,280
like there's actual people in 
this world that are capable of 

1312
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,040
like being into this, enjoying 
this, getting sexually aroused 

1313
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,160
from that shit. 
It's it's wild. 

1314
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:30,240
Now, at 47 years old, in 1917, 
an incident occurred which many 

1315
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,400
believe instigated Albert's 
descent into madness. 

1316
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,880
I. 
Don't know he's already there. 

1317
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,040
Yeah, he's pretty fucking crazy 
now, but his wife left them for 

1318
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,840
a man named Jon Straub, a 
handyman who had been there 

1319
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,400
border. 
Although she returned a short 

1320
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,080
time later, she hid John in the 
basement. 

1321
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,880
It would make frequent trips 
down there for their little 

1322
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,960
trysts. 
A little. 

1323
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,760
You got a little they. 
Had a little. 

1324
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,720
Boom boom room down there in the
fucking basement. 

1325
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,560
It's amazing. 
Always be a handyman. 

1326
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,000
Like. 
Well, that's what what was our 

1327
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,280
story? 
Oh, I just wish I could. 

1328
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,680
Reach these things, the Hinter 
Kifek story that we did the the 

1329
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,600
guy, yeah. 
It's amazing man if you can fix 

1330
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,800
stuff. 
He was a farmhand. 

1331
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,920
That's like a primal thing for 
women, dude. 

1332
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,480
It's a it's a good thing. 
Pool boy. 

1333
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,400
Some traits. 
That's this is like the old 

1334
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,040
timey version of a pool boy. 
Yeah. 

1335
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,800
Yep. 
Sitting there like. 

1336
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,640
You can fix the devil plumbing, 
can you? 

1337
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,080
I'm moister than an oyster. 
Yeah, can you drain my outhouse?

1338
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,240
They don't. 
I don't think they drained him. 

1339
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,560
What do they do with them? 
I don't know that's that's for 

1340
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,720
later. 
Just make a new outhouse. 

1341
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,400
I don't know, like fill it in, 
make a new outhouse. 

1342
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,880
I don't know how do you where do
you drain? 

1343
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,800
Kind of like when you do a gas 
you like stick a hose in it and 

1344
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:49,560
you siphon it out. 
Stop. 

1345
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:55,760
Stop. 
All right, all right. 

1346
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,720
So when Albert found out his 
wife was banging the handyman, 

1347
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,320
he was furious. 
And he threw them both out, you 

1348
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,400
know? 
So Anna left with all the 

1349
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,520
furniture, but she left the 
kids. 

1350
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,480
What a she's like, fuck them 
kids. 

1351
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,280
Give me the fucking couch. 
Give me the couch and that 

1352
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,040
armoire. 
You keep the kids. 

1353
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,520
You keep the children. 
By all accounts, Albert was a He

1354
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,680
was a pretty good dad, if you 
know, by being a good dad means 

1355
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,680
involving his children. 
In the 1880s. 

1356
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,400
Or whatever it was. 
Yeah, there was. 

1357
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,000
The standard wasn't that high, 
but OK. 

1358
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,080
He's like, hey kids, you know, 
how about you whip me and 

1359
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,280
entertain them by inserting 
cotton into the, you know, his 

1360
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,200
butt hole? 
Oh, let me, let me redo that. 

1361
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,800
Christ, dude. 
Yeah, So he would have them whip

1362
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,680
them with homemade leather whips
and entertain, quote UN quote 

1363
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,160
them with inserting cotton into 
his butt hole and setting it on 

1364
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,240
fire. 
Do you ever do that with the 

1365
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:51,720
kids? 
No. 

1366
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,360
No. 
Come on, kids, gather around 

1367
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,080
you. 
Know what's so funny? 

1368
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,680
It's like you like this. 
Cat Cotton on. 

1369
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,040
That's what people don't realize
is you. 

1370
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,280
You try to keep it light and 
then like you realize that there

1371
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,720
is some. 
Fucked up fucking dumb. 

1372
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,680
Stories. 
This is why this is this right 

1373
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,960
here is why I did not want to 
fucking do this story. 

1374
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,040
Fuck, but we're doing it. 
We're here. 

1375
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,360
We're we're committed. 
We're committed, so let's go. 

1376
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,960
That's sick. 
Yeah, so the children, they 

1377
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,000
reported that Albert became 
delusional, screaming I am 

1378
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,600
Christ and saying that he 
received messages from God and 

1379
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,160
other biblical characters. 
Years later, he said it seemed 

1380
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,520
to me that I had to offer a 
child for sacrifice and to purge

1381
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,920
myself of sins, inequities and 
abominations in the sight of 

1382
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,560
God. 
So that's what he had to do. 

1383
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,840
He had to sacrifice children 
because he's a fucking nut job. 

1384
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,440
I, I was about to say this too. 
You know, there's a little 

1385
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,440
paranoid schizophrenia. 
There's, there's, there's, I'm, 

1386
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,960
I'm looking at the mental aspect
of it. 

1387
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,400
Undiagnosed psychological 
problems and paranoid 

1388
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,880
schizophrenia right off the rip.
At least on. 

1389
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,400
On top of a whole bunch of shit.
Yeah, and it and it seems like, 

1390
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,320
you know, like you said, like 
schizophrenia and whatnot. 

1391
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,840
It's it seems like when they go 
through that they're seeing like

1392
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,560
biblical figures religious for 
like God or Jesus or. 

1393
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,120
But there's also devil demonic 
like dark shit too right with 

1394
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,600
those people. 
Yeah, it always seems to go and.

1395
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,320
Back then they were just like, I
do some cocaine about it. 

1396
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,520
Yeah, they would just they would
prescribe you like it's 

1397
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,760
witchcraft. 
I don't know, Like they had no 

1398
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,880
actual fucking reasoning for. 
It Oh, let me. 

1399
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,480
Let me bleed you, yeah? 
Let's put some leeches on them, 

1400
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,760
bring them to the river, bathe 
them in fucking river juice. 

1401
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,760
Oh man. 
All right. 

1402
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:42,120
So yeah, July 1st, 1924, Fish 
noticed an 8 year old girl named

1403
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,440
Beatrice playing on her farm in 
Staten Island. 

1404
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,840
He tried to entice her, but 
fortunately her mother was 

1405
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,520
nearby. 
And shoot him away. 

1406
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,520
Get away. 
Get away from my daughter. 

1407
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,040
Not to be deterred, Albert hid 
in the family's barn, hoping for

1408
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,960
another chance to abduct 
Beatrice, but was chased off by 

1409
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,960
her father this time. 
Yeah, but again, he was not 

1410
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,000
going to give up. 
Maybe not so much with Beatrice.

1411
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:08,800
He's going to move on to 
somebody else, right? 

1412
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,040
So he committed his first known 
murder at the age of 54. 

1413
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,480
He went entire his life. 
He went in his entire life and 

1414
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,560
at age 54, on July 14th, 1924, 
committed his first murder. 

1415
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,520
And now his eight-year old 
Francis McDonald, who was 

1416
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,480
playing in the street with other
children in Staten Island, and 

1417
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,640
his mother was watching from the
porch. 

1418
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,960
She noticed an older man, a man 
in Gray, walking up and down the

1419
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,720
street observing them. 
Something about him gave her the

1420
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,320
creeps. 
All of a sudden, little Francis 

1421
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,080
was gone. 
The neighbor recalled that he 

1422
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,480
had seen the boy being LED away 
into the woods by an older man. 

1423
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,960
Word of the missing. 
Boy, he didn't. 

1424
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,160
Stop it. 
Yeah. 

1425
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,640
Yeah, I saw a little, you know, 
look at her say. 

1426
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:52,840
Like what? 
Why? 

1427
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,720
Why is that time period so 
primitive? 

1428
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,440
Like I never understood that. 
I mean even now though dude. 

1429
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,280
No, there is 1000 fucking 
helicopter parents that would 

1430
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,000
that would never happen in 
today's society. 

1431
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,960
I get it there. 
Wouldn't it, wouldn't there'd be

1432
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,760
six people that would have 
notified that person and that 

1433
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,120
this guy's like, ah, he went, he
went in the woods. 

1434
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,680
The guy was holding his hand. 
It's fine. 

1435
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,880
I don't know. 
It's just. 

1436
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,360
It's he was with an older man. 
It blows my mind children were 

1437
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,080
like they were. 
They were expendable back then 

1438
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,080
back. 
I'm talking 1800s like it was 

1439
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,080
one like. 
But we also, we also did a case 

1440
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,520
not too long ago, well, actually
a fucking long time ago. 

1441
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,160
The Genovese syndrome. 
Remember when somebody's in 

1442
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,040
trouble, people kind of like 
look the other way. 

1443
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,680
It's it's a no. 
Man, I wouldn't be able to do 

1444
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:40,960
that. 
I would not be like, no, I 

1445
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,880
wouldn't. 
I would have fucking red flag. 

1446
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,320
What the fuck are you doing? 
Yo, hey, hey, where the fuck you

1447
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,600
going? 
Where you going with that kid 

1448
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,040
you fucking pervert? 
Instantly. 

1449
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,040
Without a doubt. 
I don't care like. 

1450
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,880
Yeah, well, they didn't do that 
back then. 

1451
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,360
And word of the missing boy 
spread and panic ensued. 

1452
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,120
Searchers found the body of 
Francis in the woods the 

1453
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,680
following morning. 
He was under a pile of branches,

1454
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,920
and he had been strangled with 
his suspenders and atrociously 

1455
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,120
assaulted. 
According to the coroner, 

1456
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,640
atrociously assaulted. 
People became paranoid, and 

1457
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,720
sightings of this mystery Gray 
man were reported everywhere. 

1458
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,920
Parents began telling their 
children, hey, you'd better be 

1459
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,200
good or the Gray Man's going to 
get you. 

1460
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,120
Fish's next documented murder 
occurred on February 11th, 1927.

1461
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,400
A 12 year old boy named Johnny 
was watching his two younger 

1462
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,440
neighbors, both 3 year old boys 
named Billy. 

1463
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,600
They were playing in the hallway
of their Manhattan apartment 

1464
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,680
building when he was drawn 
inside by the crying of his baby

1465
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,960
sister. 
So now Johnny goes inside the 

1466
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,640
two the two Billies are left 
outside, right? 

1467
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,440
He returned to find that both 
Billies had vanished and Billy 

1468
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,640
Beaton was found by his father 
safely playing on the roof, and 

1469
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,080
when asked where the other Billy
had gone, he gave the chilling 

1470
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,000
reply. 
The boogeyman took him. 

1471
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,920
Because, you know, that's what 
he said, Yeah. 

1472
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,840
You know, that's what Albert 
said, yeah. 

1473
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,960
For sure, I'm the boogeyman. 
Yeah. 

1474
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,360
So as with little Francis, 
neighbors searched frantically 

1475
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:18,080
for Billy Gaffney, to no avail. 
Later, a trolley driver recalled

1476
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,960
a boy matching Billy Gaffney's 
description being LED onto the 

1477
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,520
trolley crying by an old man 
with Gray hair, dressed in Gray.

1478
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,120
It appears as though the Gray 
man had claimed his second 

1479
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,040
victim. 
After his arrest, Fish told the 

1480
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,240
police what happened to Billy. 
He said that he took him to an 

1481
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,440
abandoned house before he 
whipped him and cut his throat, 

1482
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,720
bringing his meat home to cook 
in a Stew with vegetables. 

1483
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,200
His remains were never covered, 
never recovered. 

1484
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,160
Yeah. 
Was it his first dance with 

1485
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,720
cannibalism? 
I believe that was you know. 

1486
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,240
On May 25th, 1928, Edward Budd 
placed an ad in the New York 

1487
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:03,120
world reading Young Man 18 
Wishes Position and country, 

1488
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:08,320
Edward Budd, four O 6 W 15th St.
Edward, who lived in a cramped 

1489
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,760
ground floor apartment with his 
parents and four siblings, was 

1490
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,200
looking to earn money doing 
something more pleasant than 

1491
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,240
just driving trucks. 
Little did he know that his 

1492
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,920
advertisement would set in 
motion events that would bring 

1493
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,920
to light one of the most 
deranged, insidious serial 

1494
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,279
killers the world has ever 
known. 

1495
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,040
A few days later a well dressed 
gentleman who addressed himself 

1496
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,840
as Frank Howard appeared at the 
Bud's door. 

1497
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,160
In response to the ad, Missus 
Delia Budd invited him inside 

1498
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:36,720
and Edward and his friend Willie
appeared. 

1499
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,240
Edward asked if Willie could 
work with him as well on Mr. 

1500
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,240
Howard's farm, to which the old 
man agreed. 

1501
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,680
He then said that he had to 
leave as he had a business 

1502
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,040
appointment and would return on 
a Saturday with a car. 

1503
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,520
Since Mr. Howard was obviously 
Albert Fish had only been 

1504
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,640
expecting one young man, he had 
to make extra preparations for 

1505
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,560
an extra 1. 
He later told police that he 

1506
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,080
planned to tie up Edward, cut 
off his penis and leave him to 

1507
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,600
bleed to death. 
So on that Saturday he he sent 

1508
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,960
the Buds a handwritten telegram 
reading Bent Over in New Jersey 

1509
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:15,439
Call in the Morning. 
On Sunday, June 3rd, Mr. Howard,

1510
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:19,080
quote UN quote, returned to the 
Bud apartment with pot, cheese, 

1511
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,000
strawberries and his weapons, 
which he referred to as his 

1512
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,520
implements of Hell, wrapped in a
package. 

1513
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,960
As the family was having lunch 
with their guests, he asked if 

1514
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:33,120
they had received his telegram. 
Seeing it on the mantle, he 

1515
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,040
serendipitously placed it in his
pocket, which was also observed 

1516
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,520
by Mr. Budd, who thought it was 
odd, but he didn't really say 

1517
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,800
anything. 
You sent those to Telegram and 

1518
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,720
now you're taken aback. 
It's kind of weird. 

1519
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,840
Whatever. 
And I'm sure a telegram was a 

1520
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,520
big deal back then. 
Oh yeah, that was like a that 

1521
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,479
was like a Christmas card. 
Anybody got the telegram? 

1522
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:51,640
That was a Christmas card back 
then. 

1523
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,880
Telegram here. 
That's when you. 

1524
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,960
That's when, like, your mom 
tapes up the Christmas cards. 

1525
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:56,720
Yeah, on the. 
On the mirror. 

1526
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,400
Or whatever. 
Yeah, over the threshold. 

1527
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,040
While they were waiting for 
Edward and Willie, 10 year old 

1528
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,480
Grace Bud entered the apartment.
That beautiful little girl in 

1529
01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:10,600
her Sunday church dress. 
She had brown hair, big dark 

1530
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,160
eyes and pale skin. 
What do you think's going to 

1531
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,400
happen, Garrett? 
I don't know man. 

1532
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,040
Mr. Howard immediately turned 
his attention to her. 

1533
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,400
Come here, a child, he said, 
gathering her onto his lap. 

1534
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,680
Let's see how good at counting 
you. 

1535
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,040
Are that's so fucking eerie I 
hate it. 

1536
01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:33,040
To the family's astonishment, 
Mr. Howard whipped out a wad of 

1537
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:39,760
cash totaling $92.50, which back
then is about $1300. 

1538
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,400
You know. 
Pulls out a band. 

1539
01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:45,440
Yeah, just pull out a band now. 
After Grace had successfully 

1540
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:48,880
counted it, he praised her and 
gave her $0.50 to buy some 

1541
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,720
candy. 
Here's some candy, little girl. 

1542
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,800
Now she had run off, Mr. Howard,
AKA Albert said. 

1543
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,400
I just remembered my sister is 
having a birthday party for my 

1544
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,680
niece. 
Do you think Grace would like to

1545
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,600
go? 
I'll bring her back by 9 and 

1546
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,920
pick up Eddie and Willie. 
He added that his sister had 

1547
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:13,720
lived at 137th and Columbus. 
I'm I'm telling you, you don't 

1548
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,480
let a fucking stranger. 
It just goes to what I'm saying 

1549
01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:23,760
about this fucking errand time. 
So Mr. and misses Bud. 

1550
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:28,080
Somewhat reluctantly, they 
agreed and Grace was excited as 

1551
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,520
she put on her fancy coat with 
fur trim. 

1552
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,200
That's so sad. 
She was excited to go to his 

1553
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,880
birthday party, so her mother 
watched as she walked out the 

1554
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,200
door, down the sidewalk with the
old man, not knowing that it 

1555
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,000
would be the last time she would
ever see her daughter. 

1556
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,200
When Grace failed to return by 
the night, the bloods notified 

1557
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:48,480
the police the following 
morning. 

1558
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,960
The following morning, I'd be 
like, She'd been going for three

1559
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,840
hours. 
Yeah, but the police were 

1560
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,720
immediately suspicious when they
heard that the address that 

1561
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,440
Mister Howard had given them, 
they were like Columbus that 

1562
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:07,560
ends at 110th, 110th St. not 
137th St. you know, or whatever 

1563
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,840
it was. 
So they all so quickly learned 

1564
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,920
that there was no such person 
named Frank Howard that matched 

1565
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,960
the the description. 
So Mr. Budd recalled that the 

1566
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,120
stranger had taken the 
handwritten telegram with him, 

1567
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,880
which would provide police with 
their first clue. 

1568
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,680
They managed to track down the 
telegram office at which he has 

1569
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,240
sent it in Harlem and found the 
original handwritten copy with 

1570
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,840
his writing. 
I'm actually surprised. 

1571
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,440
I didn't know how telegrams 
work. 

1572
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:37,200
I didn't know that they kept 
copies I didn't like. 

1573
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,240
I didn't know there would be a 
paper trail for that. 

1574
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,440
I thought it would just be sent 
and then like you. 

1575
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:43,840
Said fill it out and send it, 
Yeah. 

1576
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:45,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That's interesting. 

1577
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,760
Now, in the meantime, hysteria 
broke out in the city again with

1578
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,960
numerous Gray Man sightings. 
Three men were falsely 

1579
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,520
identified as Grace's kidnapper,
and one was actually set to go 

1580
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,640
to trial when Missus Budd 
retracted her identification at 

1581
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,920
the last minute. 
That's not him, OK? 

1582
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,800
All had grown quiet, and Albert 
married again briefly in 1930. 

1583
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:12,160
This time his bride was Estella 
Wilcox, a divorcee with 

1584
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,720
children. 
This marriage only lasted a few 

1585
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,640
weeks though, because Albert he 
scaled it scared his children 

1586
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:18,040
with his. 
Name. 

1587
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:19,560
Yeah. 
Can you burn my butt? 

1588
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,000
Off They don't like stuffing 
cotton in people's assholes, you

1589
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:22,840
know what I mean? 
So. 

1590
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,160
Dude, what is it? 
What a lunatic. 

1591
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,400
So Albert Fish was arrested 
again in 1934, but not for 

1592
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,920
murder. 
It seems that he he started his 

1593
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,080
habit of writing obscene letters
to women again. 

1594
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,920
His ploy was to select A target,
writing a slightly suggestive 

1595
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,840
letter. 
You know, just a little little 

1596
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:44,480
hint of of sexuality there. 
And if she responded, then he 

1597
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:47,640
would send increasingly more 
sexual and disgusting, 

1598
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,920
disgusting missives. 
The typical theme of these 

1599
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,240
letters was that he had a young 
son who was well built but 

1600
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,560
mentally handicapped and in need
of discipline. 

1601
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,720
What? 
Yeah, he spent the rest of the 

1602
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,680
letter explaining to the 
recipient in graphic detail what

1603
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,000
care the boy needed focusing. 
Focusing on spanking him and 

1604
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,880
attending to his bathroom needs.
Like shitting on him or 

1605
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,280
something, I don't know. 
Unfortunately for Albert, one of

1606
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,160
these recipients turned the 
letters into the police, who 

1607
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,880
then appeared at his roaming 
house with a warrant. 

1608
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,320
Upon searching his room, they 
found more letters, a homemade 

1609
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,920
whip in a fetid hot dog and 
carrot which he had been 

1610
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,320
pleasuring himself with. 
And for those. 

1611
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,440
So wait wait wait. 
Question. 

1612
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,760
Fetid means what? 
I had to Google this 'cause I 

1613
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:35,440
didn't know what. 
Fetid. 

1614
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:36,440
OK, 'cause I I don't know what 
fetid. 

1615
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,280
Means yeah, fetid. 
Means that it fucking stunk. 

1616
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,600
The holy fucking hell. 
So it was. 

1617
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:41,960
It was shit. 
Like rot. 

1618
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,320
Yeah. 
It was like fucking stank ass, 

1619
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:50,520
fucking like disgusting shit. 
Yeah, feted it. 

1620
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,400
Was feted shit. 
It's wired too. 

1621
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,640
It's like I guarantee you 
outside of people that listen to

1622
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,840
these podcasts and and are and 
deep dive into the true crime. 

1623
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,640
World. 
Not a lot of people know who 

1624
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,000
Albert Fish is. 
And I like we're we're taking 

1625
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,440
this lightly because we have to,
because we can't take it 

1626
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,800
seriously. 
I fucking hate, I hate doing 

1627
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,280
episodes about children fucking.
Hate it. 

1628
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,520
So that's why we're drinking 
heavily on this episode. 

1629
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,600
If anybody can't tell, we're 
drinking heavily on this episode

1630
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,160
and we're just trying to like, 
we're trying to breeze through 

1631
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,160
it basically, right. 
But the fact that this guy is 

1632
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:28,760
not a bigger name in like in 
that, that true crime world 

1633
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,440
blows my mind 'cause I guarantee
you if I asked my my mom, my 

1634
01:15:32,440 --> 01:15:34,080
mom, do you know who Albert Fish
is? 

1635
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,000
She would have no clue. 
You know what I mean? 

1636
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,120
Someone who's not in that world,
but she would know who, you 

1637
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,440
know, Ted Bundy, Dahmer, and she
would know who those guys are. 

1638
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:47,160
But like, this has got to be one
of the the most twisted and 

1639
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,240
sadistic and. 
Just. 

1640
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,080
Ruthless killers out of of all 
time. 

1641
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,040
It's just it's AI, just I. 
It's interesting how society 

1642
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:59,400
kind of just when something so 
crazy at the time, they just 

1643
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,560
pretend like it never happened. 
Correct. 

1644
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,040
Right. 
You know what I'm trying to say.

1645
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:08,400
I feel like this is one of them.
Back in the early 20s, we're 

1646
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,080
just going to pretend like this 
never happened. 

1647
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,840
It doesn't exist, right? 
It's it's, it's, it's 

1648
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:13,840
interesting to me. 
It's a. 

1649
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:19,560
It's a weird dynamic. 
As bad as this episode is, it 

1650
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,480
it's going to get worse. 
Yeah. 

1651
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,280
And we're just going to push 
through it. 

1652
01:16:25,480 --> 01:16:28,600
All right, So. 
So the outer fish, he was 

1653
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,000
committed to Bellevue 
Psychiatric Hospital for 30 days

1654
01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:35,680
because they found the fucking 
hot dog that stunk. 

1655
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,320
The fucking holy hell. 
It was there that he was 

1656
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,760
determined to have manifested 
sexual perversion from an early 

1657
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,960
life. 
He was released 30 days later to

1658
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,600
the custody of his daughter, 
Anna. 

1659
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,800
Oh, there you go. 
In 1830. 

1660
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,760
Oops. 
In 1934, Albert Junior witnesses

1661
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,240
Father awakened from nightmares,
sweating, gasping. 

1662
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,800
Sometimes he heard the name 
Grace mumbled. 

1663
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:05,840
Shivers. 
Yeah, to calm himself down, 

1664
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,240
Albert would shove needles into 
his skin. 

1665
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,600
Oh. 
Dude, sadism to the T. 

1666
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:15,720
Detective William King of the 
NYPD was still obsessively 

1667
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,640
searching for Grace Bud, and 
from time to time, he planted 

1668
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,720
stories in the newspaper about 
her, thinking that her kidnapper

1669
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,920
was following the news and 
hoping to elicit some action on 

1670
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:25,800
his part. 
And when. 

1671
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,240
And guess what? 
It fucking worked. 

1672
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:29,680
It worked. 
Yeah, all right. 

1673
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:34,560
In 1934, Misses Bud received a 
letter from the kidnapper, and 

1674
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,000
since she couldn't read, Edward 
read it first. 

1675
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,880
Then he ran to give it to 
Detective King. 

1676
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,840
In the letter, which has become 
infamous, the kidnapper stated 

1677
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,880
that a friend of his visited 
China, where eating children had

1678
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,880
become popular. 
After discussing this in some 

1679
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,200
detail, the writer said that he 
had decided to try eating 

1680
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:59,600
children himself and he recalled
the day he had visited the buds 

1681
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,440
and wrote This is to the mother.
Grace sat in my lap and kissed 

1682
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:07,640
me. 
I made-up my mind in that moment

1683
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,680
to eat her. 
I took her to an empty house in 

1684
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,920
Westchester I had already picked
out. 

1685
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,120
When we got there I told her to 
remain outside. 

1686
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,640
She picked wildflowers. 
I went upstairs and stripped all

1687
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,600
my clothes off. 
I knew if I did not I would get 

1688
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,000
her blood on them. 
When all was ready I went to the

1689
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,720
window and called her. 
Then I hid in the closet until 

1690
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,160
she was in the room. 
When she saw me all naked she 

1691
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,560
began to cry and tried to run 
down the stairs. 

1692
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,280
I grabbed her and she said she 
would tell her Mama first. 

1693
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,040
I stripped her naked, how she 
did kick and bite and scratch. 

1694
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,040
I choked her to death, then cut 
her in small pieces so I could 

1695
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,920
take the meat to the rooms and 
cook and eat it. 

1696
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,200
How sweet and tender her little 
ass was roasted in the oven. 

1697
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,400
It took me 9 days to eat her 
entire body. 

1698
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,880
I did not fuck her, though I 
could have if I wished. 

1699
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,280
She died a virgin. 
This is to the mother of this 

1700
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:13,200
child. 
Imagine reading that fucking 

1701
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:18,200
letter and you allowed your 
daughter to leave with this man.

1702
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,520
My mind went somewhere else. 
I went real dark. 

1703
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,160
Like I fucking murder everybody,
dude. 

1704
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,000
My mind went somewhere real dark
right there in that. 

1705
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,240
And like, it's, it's the tone, 
it's the way he's like 

1706
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:31,760
describing. 
Matter of factly. 

1707
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,920
Yeah, it's, it's that, that's 
what really annoys me about 

1708
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,160
that, that whole letter. 
How sweet like he thinks he like

1709
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,400
he. 
Thinks he's the man when he's 

1710
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:42,920
saying when he's saying it. 
That's the shit that like, I 

1711
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:47,720
wish I found out where you were.
So, Detective King, He noticed 

1712
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,280
an emblem on the back of the 
envelope with the initials 

1713
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,560
NYPCBA. 
He figured out that it stood for

1714
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:59,400
New York Private Chauffeurs 
Benevolent Association and paid 

1715
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,480
their office a visit. 
There he found that one member 

1716
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,480
had taken some of the stationery
to his former rooming house at 

1717
01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:09,320
200 E 52nd St. 
King went immediately to this 

1718
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,720
address where the landlady, 
Missus Schneider, identified a 

1719
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:16,920
drawing of Frank Howard as a 
sometime tenant of hers named 

1720
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,000
Albert Fish. 
She promised to call Detective 

1721
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:25,200
King the next time he appeared. 
On December 13th, 1934, Missus 

1722
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,400
Schneider called Detective King 
to inform him. 

1723
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,160
The Albert Fish had just arrived
at her boarding house. 

1724
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,320
King rushed to the residence 
where he found his quarry 

1725
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,560
sitting at a table drinking tea.
Albert Fish? 

1726
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,320
He asked. 
Fish nodded and stood. 

1727
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,760
However, as soon as King 
approached him, Fish whipped out

1728
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:50,040
a razor blade from his pocket. 
The old man was no match for 

1729
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,880
King because he's like fucking 
90 by now, who swiftly disarmed 

1730
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,960
him and handcuffed him. 
I got you now. 

1731
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,480
He said triumphantly. 
At police headquarters, Fish 

1732
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:02,440
quickly started talking. 
All right, he said, I'll tell 

1733
01:21:02,440 --> 01:21:04,920
you all about it. 
I'm the man you want. 

1734
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,280
I took Grace Bud from her home 
on the third day of June. 

1735
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,680
I brought her to Westchester and
killed her that same afternoon. 

1736
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,440
When asked why, he simply 
shrugged. 

1737
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,440
Fish explained that after taking
Grace from the apartment, they 

1738
01:21:18,440 --> 01:21:22,400
boarded the train with a one way
ticket for Grace to Westchester,

1739
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,680
23 miles away from the city. 
Oh, that's such an eerie fact, 

1740
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,720
dude. 
That the way you just included 

1741
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,720
that really just. 
The one way ticket. 

1742
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:34,120
The one way ticket got me. 
So he undressed himself and 

1743
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,480
unwrapped his implements of 
hell, a meat cleaver, a butcher 

1744
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:41,120
knife and a small hacksaw. 
When Grace entered holding a 

1745
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:45,040
bouquet of wildflowers she had 
picked, he jumped out naked and 

1746
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,440
the little girl screamed, 
dropped the flowers and began to

1747
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:49,840
run. 
Fish grabbed her by the throat 

1748
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,200
and then he knelt on her chest 
while he strangled her. 

1749
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:56,520
He decapitated her with his 
knife, letting her blood drain 

1750
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,080
out into an empty paint can. 
When the can was full, he tried 

1751
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,600
to drink the blood but choked on
it. 

1752
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:06,160
Albert had finally found a 
behavior that was too disgusting

1753
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,960
even for him. 
He then dismembered Grace and 

1754
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,560
filleted her flesh in order to 
cook and eat her. 

1755
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,240
When asked again why he had 
killed Grace, Fish said. 

1756
01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:20,000
You know I could not account for
it. 

1757
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:23,720
By this time, word of the 
capture of the Gray Man had 

1758
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,840
spread and everybody wanted to 
know more about this mysterious 

1759
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,080
figure. 
The press had a field day, 

1760
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,960
dubbing him such colorful names 
as the Werewolf of Wisteria, the

1761
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,400
Vampire of Brooklyn, and the 
Moon Maniac. 

1762
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:39,440
Over the next few days, a scene 
of Wisteria Cottage was circus 

1763
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:42,960
like with police, medical 
examiners, press and onlookers. 

1764
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,440
Grace's skeletalized remains 
were dug up and placed in a box.

1765
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,320
While in jail, Fish complained 
of pain when he sat and 

1766
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,920
conjunctured that it must be 
related to the needles he had 

1767
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,840
stuck in his body. 
An X-ray was taken and sure 

1768
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,680
enough, 29 needles were found 
deep inside his pelvic region. 

1769
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,400
He has literally become a human 
pincushion. 

1770
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,840
When Fish went to trial, his 
defense was, not surprisingly, 

1771
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,760
not guilty by reason of 
insanity. 

1772
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,600
There were two whole days of 
psychiatric testimony, during 

1773
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,480
which one of the psychiatrists 
said there is no known 

1774
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:21,280
perversion, that he did not 
practice and practice 

1775
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,360
frequently. 
The defense introduced the idea 

1776
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:28,200
that he was suffering from lead 
colic, a form of dementia caused

1777
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,920
by inhaling lead paint from his 
years working as a painter. 

1778
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,960
Could could not be. 
I mean, you know what I mean? 

1779
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,800
Like that that's. 
Lead paint does has done known 

1780
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,800
to fuck somebody up. 
Fuck some like psych 

1781
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,560
psychotically up. 
Like there is proof of that. 

1782
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,080
Yep. 
So after deliberating for only 

1783
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,880
six hours, the jury came back 
and said go fuck yourself and 

1784
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,160
you fed it hot dog fucking. 
Don't, don't get me wrong, he 

1785
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,160
deserves everything then, right?
And actually he deserves more. 

1786
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:58,680
But you know. 
Yep, you're fucking guilty, so 

1787
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,680
take your hot dog and shove it 
up your fucking ass where you 

1788
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,320
look at. 
They later said that while they 

1789
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,880
all believed him to be insane, 
they thought he should go to a 

1790
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,680
lecture chair anyway, so fuck 
him. 

1791
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,800
Yep. 
So Fish was executed in the 

1792
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,360
electric chair at Sing Sing 
Prison on the night of January 

1793
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:19,480
16th, 1936. 
His last meal was roast chicken 

1794
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,080
that was fed to him by a prison 
guard to avoid a suicide attempt

1795
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,800
because a few months earlier 
Fish had attempted to slit his 

1796
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,720
wrist with the bone of AT bone 
steak. 

1797
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,200
So they had to feed him. 
They weren't. 

1798
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,560
He wasn't allowed to eat, feed 
himself. 

1799
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,680
Oh, he was really not trying to 
go out by them. 

1800
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,680
Yeah, Yep. 
So on the way to electric chair,

1801
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,200
Fish told the guards with great 
anticipation. 

1802
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,280
It'll be the supreme thrill, one
that I haven't tried being 

1803
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,240
electrocuted. 
After he was strapped in the 

1804
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,800
chair, he was given a chance to 
say his last words, to which he 

1805
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,800
stated, I don't even know why 
I'm here. 

1806
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,000
Fucking nut job. 
Prior to his death, he gave a 

1807
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,800
written statement to his 
attorney who said I will never 

1808
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,640
show it to anyone. 
It was filled with the most 

1809
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,560
filthy string of obscenities 
that I have ever read. 

1810
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:09,560
That goes back to him writing 
those, you know, obsid anything 

1811
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,960
like filled letters and all that
stuff. 

1812
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,440
Like I guarantee you, that was 
probably one of the grossest 

1813
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:19,600
things humanity has ever 
published writing. 

1814
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,480
The depth of his dark fucking he
probably. 

1815
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:25,600
Just went. 
All out and I guarantee, and I 

1816
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,280
applaud the attorney for doing 
that. 

1817
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,320
So you applauded his defense 
attorney? 

1818
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,720
Yes, Wow. 
Yeah, good job, Gary. 

1819
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,040
I I got I. 
Applaud his defense attorney. 

1820
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:40,440
For saying I will never show 
this to anyone, this is the. 

1821
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,240
Yeah, it's just that bad, Yeah. 
And it probably was mocking the 

1822
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:49,280
families and all it's it's. 
In trying to explain himself, 

1823
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,640
Fish said I always had a desire 
to inflict pain on others and to

1824
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:58,520
have others inflict pain on me. 
The desire to inflict pain, that

1825
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:03,920
it's all that it's uppermost. 
So that's that for Albert Fish. 

1826
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,640
So thank you again to Debbie 
from True Prime University for 

1827
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,800
writing the story. 
Before we jump into dear douche 

1828
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,120
bags, what do you think of the 
story again? 

1829
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:15,480
Dude. 
I just, I'm glad we got through 

1830
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,680
it. 
I, I even said you said it and I

1831
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,960
said it and I was like, Albert 
Fish is a good one to do, but 

1832
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,440
it's, it's what's one of those 
ones? 

1833
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:24,720
Obviously everybody who who's 
listening to the podcast for a 

1834
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,160
while understands that we don't 
do well with. 

1835
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,720
With kid ones. 
With kid ones, so I think we we 

1836
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,040
handled it well. 
I think we did. 

1837
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,360
We got, we got some. 
Libations, yeah. 

1838
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,040
We got to. 
Remember that for next time. 

1839
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:38,960
Next time we do a kid one, we 
got to have like a lot of 

1840
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,160
libations to get through it 
because that was yeah, 

1841
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,200
especially, especially the the 
Grace Bud part of it. 

1842
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,720
Yeah, the wild, the wildflowers 
gets me every time. 

1843
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,400
Yeah, the fucking. 
I hate it. 

1844
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,320
Like to to be this innocent 
little girl, especially anybody 

1845
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,440
who has like little, little. 
Anyone who had a daughter in her

1846
01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:57,880
life too understands that. 
Like, she's probably just walked

1847
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,400
in like, oh, look at the flowers
I picked. 

1848
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,800
Yeah, and here comes this dude. 
I'm gonna fucking kill you 

1849
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,480
because I'm a fucking weirdo, 
Yeah. 

1850
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,560
It's just one of those things. 
Yep All right, so head on over 

1851
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,840
to Spotify and good pause and 
tell us what you thought of the 

1852
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,920
fucking episode. 
And now it's. 

1853
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,840
Of the worst person in the 
world, the. 

1854
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,040
Worst person in the world? 
Yep. 

1855
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,600
So now it's time for another 
installment of Deer Douche Bags 

1856
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,040
where you send in what is 
troubling you and we give you 

1857
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:22,920
our best advice and how to 
handle it. 

1858
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,440
Which is probably the worst 
advice you'll probably ever 

1859
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,720
receive. 
All right, we have two requests,

1860
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,600
which is shocking that two 
people want to hear our advice, 

1861
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,280
but here we go. 
So first up is annoyed in 

1862
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:35,520
marriage. 
Whoa. 

1863
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,200
No, I can't do this. 
Yeah, Oh, yeah. 

1864
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:39,040
So. 
Oh, here we go. 

1865
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,480
We got like a single guy and a 
married guy. 

1866
01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:42,960
Yeah, yeah. 
So Annoyed writes. 

1867
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,960
Hello, douchebags. 
Hello, Annoyed. 

1868
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,880
I am one of your older fans. 
My husband is now 70 years old 

1869
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,360
and he's, he's even more boring 
and annoying than he was 42 

1870
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,120
years ago when I met him. 
Is it OK to throw a pillow over 

1871
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,560
his mouth and nose when he 
sleeps? 

1872
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,120
I'm trying to talk to him. 
Then I could just use his body 

1873
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,320
as an armrest. 
So who the fuck set this in? 

1874
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,160
Any suggestions are welcome. 
So basically. 

1875
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,160
Wait, wait, go back up. 
Who was the? 

1876
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:13,640
Who was the? 
What was her name? 

1877
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,440
Or. 
His name, his name, just. 

1878
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:17,360
Annoyed. 
Just, yeah, annoyed in marriage,

1879
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,840
okay. 
Annoyed in marriage? 

1880
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,320
So basically like when she's 
trying to talk to him about 

1881
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,000
things he just falls asleep 
while while in the middle of her

1882
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,600
talking to him he's just like. 
He's even more boring and 

1883
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,840
annoying than he was 42 years 
ago. 

1884
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,840
Wow, I wonder if Annoyed in 
Marriage is actually Jill Biden.

1885
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:44,400
All right, all right, go ahead 
at. 70 years old I I needed to 

1886
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,080
know how long they were actually
married for. 

1887
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:51,120
Well, they met for 42 years, 40.
Two years ago, 42 years. 

1888
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,280
That is more boring and annoying
now. 

1889
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:01,560
But but is that just, is that 
just age catching up to you? 

1890
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,360
Is that that's a long time to be
married to somebody? 

1891
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,840
That is an incredibly long time 
and you have to give yourself 

1892
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,040
credit for that. 
Yeah, that's a. 

1893
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:13,560
That's a. 42 years together is 
some serious dedication. 

1894
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,320
Time management. 
Yep. 

1895
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,400
I've been through two marriages 
and neither of them lasted more 

1896
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,960
than seven years. 
Exactly 42 years give yourself 

1897
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,600
credit for. 
That and even. 

1898
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,000
If he's boring, he still lasted 
42 years together. 

1899
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:28,720
You know what? 
Annoyed? 

1900
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,320
I think that you are insane for 
going that long. 

1901
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:36,360
Correct. 
But the question is, should she 

1902
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,560
throw a pillow over his face? 
No. 

1903
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,080
What? 
No, you don't kill. 

1904
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,040
Your husband a 42. 
Year. 

1905
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,000
No, you don't. 
Kill him. 

1906
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,640
It takes a long time to like, 
kill somebody that way. 

1907
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,520
Just knock him out. 
No, no. 

1908
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,480
Have him wake up a couple hours 
later, like what the fuck 

1909
01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:55,080
happened? 
You know, it's like the thrill 

1910
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,680
of like I could. 
I I just. 

1911
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,080
I could do. 
It, I think, I think you really 

1912
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,320
got to step back. 
I'm giving. 

1913
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,720
I'm giving, honest. 
Advice here? 

1914
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,040
You're joking. 
You're joking. 

1915
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,440
I'm serious. 
I think, I think you need to 

1916
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,840
accept the good things, let go 
of the bad things and just 

1917
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,240
realize, hey, we made it 42 
years. 

1918
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:18,280
It it obviously wasn't that bad.
You might be joking a little bit

1919
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:22,240
sending into the podcast, but if
it if you lasted 42 years, it 

1920
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,720
wasn't horrible. 
There's some sort, there's 

1921
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,120
something holding you guys 
together. 

1922
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,360
I I spice it up too, I can see 
that. 

1923
01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:30,560
Spice it up, tell him to 
fucking. 

1924
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,320
How you going to spice it up 
with a 70 year old? 

1925
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,720
Oh a 70 year old can throw on AG
string, wait at the top of the 

1926
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,320
stairs for the bouquet of 
flowers like. 

1927
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,160
I mean, Albert Fish's father was
75 when he was busting, no. 

1928
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:44,880
Exactly. 
You can still have kids 

1929
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,200
according to Albert Fish, 
though. 

1930
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,400
Yeah. 
The way I look at it is 42 

1931
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,640
years. 
It's 42 years. 42 years that you

1932
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,280
wasted. 
Oh no, dude. 

1933
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,680
Here you are 42 years later. 
You're bored, you're fucking 

1934
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,680
annoyed. 
You're like, what did I do with 

1935
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,320
my fucking life? 
You know? 

1936
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:03,760
I don't know. 
That's the way I would look at 

1937
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:04,600
it. 
Yeah. 

1938
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:10,160
You know, I think that's that's 
a scorn versus a better outlook.

1939
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:18,360
It's the scorn versus the 
looking to to some sort of 

1940
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,480
light. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1941
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:25,280
I mean, try the pillow. 
See, the pillow works, Pillow 

1942
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,520
doesn't work. 
I don't know what's the saying 

1943
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,880
that if at first you don't 
succeed, it's only attempted 

1944
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,360
murder. 
It's only attempted murder. 

1945
01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:34,160
And you can go. 
Find the the criminal AF merch. 

1946
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,720
That's it. 
Yeah, find that T-shirt in the 

1947
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,240
hoodie on in the merch shop. 
If anybody doesn't tell you I'm 

1948
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,360
proud of you for sticking it out
42 years, it's that's a that's a

1949
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,160
big accomplishment. 
Look at it like that. 

1950
01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:49,560
Even if you settled. 
Yeah, even though you wasted 42 

1951
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,080
years of your life, I. 
Don't. 

1952
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,400
Know if you're able to keep that
one. 

1953
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,480
In maybe not 42 years, maybe 
half of that you wasted. 

1954
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,080
Yeah, everybody gets like that, 
though. 

1955
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,160
You become roommates at at at. 
When you're 60-70 years old, 

1956
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,040
you're just hanging out. 
I don't know. 

1957
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:07,480
Some people still got the little
spice. 

1958
01:32:07,480 --> 01:32:09,120
You know they want a little 
spice in their life. 

1959
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,600
But it's on, it's on both people
to to keep that going. 

1960
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,440
I get that, but apparently he 
falls asleep. 

1961
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,520
He's falling asleep like. 
He's an old man. 

1962
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,280
He's falling. 
Asleep too. 

1963
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,040
She's probably like, hey, honey,
can we get a little action? 

1964
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:25,200
He's like, you know, just 
fucking falls asleep. 

1965
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,080
So I don't know, try to pillow 
see what happens. 

1966
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:31,920
So there you go. 
There you go. 

1967
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:33,160
Annoyed in marriage. 
How's that? 

1968
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:37,440
Annoyed in marriage? 
All right, Yeah, all right. 

1969
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:39,760
Next up we have Naughty in 
Neverland. 

1970
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,920
Naughty in Neverland is probably
the best. 

1971
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,760
Like Patreon? 
Name whatever we've heard 

1972
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:49,600
Naughty in Neverland. 
All right, I need some bad 

1973
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:51,240
advice. 
Especially for the Albert Fish 

1974
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:52,640
fucking episode. 
Come on. 

1975
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,360
I need some bad advice. 
They're douche bags. 

1976
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,360
I've been talking with a friend 
quote UN quote late at night. 

1977
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,880
We've only met once in real life
and that meeting, you know is 

1978
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:07,480
harmless. 
You. 

1979
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,080
Know. 
But lately we've become a little

1980
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:14,880
bit more flirtatious and there 
may or may not have been some 

1981
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,160
topless pics that were sent. 
OK. 

1982
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,560
Side note, I also may be 
married. 

1983
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,400
Dying to know what you guys 
think. 

1984
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,640
What are we? 
We're just marriage. 

1985
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,840
Counselors. 
Here, I guess criminal AFI guess

1986
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,240
we're working on marriages here,
I guess, so I don't know. 

1987
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:33,560
All right, so you sent nudie 
pictures. 

1988
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,400
Well, no, I well. 
Is this what she's saying? 

1989
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,480
Yeah, I sent topless pics, OK. 
I sent topless pics and was 

1990
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:42,920
flirting with somebody that I 
met once. 

1991
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,880
Yeah. 
I mean, I would, I would imagine

1992
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,200
they've been talking. 
I don't know. 

1993
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:52,160
Yeah, obviously it was. 
They met up in person once, it 

1994
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,040
was harmless and then they've 
been more flirtation on the 

1995
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,240
phone, just like a normal 
relationship starts. 

1996
01:33:58,160 --> 01:33:59,640
Like they met I. 
Don't know, there's so much. 

1997
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,320
They met and maybe one of them 
hit the other one up on Facebook

1998
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:03,800
or something. 
I don't know. 

1999
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,520
I think it's, I think there's a 
lot of unanswered questions here

2000
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:10,440
that we have to, we have to know
the information before is, is 

2001
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:13,520
there her marriage going well? 
Is she happily married? 

2002
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,600
Is she just looking for some 
excitement? 

2003
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,240
Like. 
What are we? 

2004
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:19,480
What are we? 
Talking about how far is it 

2005
01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:20,760
going to go? 
Yeah, you know what I mean? 

2006
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,800
Like are you? 
Joking or you just sending 

2007
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,040
topless pictures to like feel 
alive again. 

2008
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,400
There's there's so much unknown 
in this question. 

2009
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,720
There is. 
Yeah, it's still wrong. 

2010
01:34:31,480 --> 01:34:33,600
Still wrong. 
Still wrong, still wrong. 

2011
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,600
OK, You're still married, you're
still sending topless pictures, 

2012
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,760
you're still flirting. 
Better than a hooch shot, but. 

2013
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,800
Yeah, don't. 
Yeah, don't, don't send the but 

2014
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,000
hoochie. 
I I would need to know more to 

2015
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,400
actually really answer this 
question. 

2016
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,880
Yeah, well, hypothetically 
speaking, healthy marriage. 

2017
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,120
Healthy marriage, OK? 
Healthy marriage. 

2018
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:55,640
You guys are good. 
You're loving, you're still 

2019
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,960
having sex. 
You got OK. 

2020
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,160
And things are great and you're 
doing this? 

2021
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,160
I don't know. 
I would probably be pissed if I 

2022
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:05,800
was a husband. 
I would be too. 

2023
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,480
I'd be if I found out about it, 
I'd be fucking livid. 

2024
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,600
I oh, I would be livid 
regardless, even if we weren't 

2025
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,080
doing well. 
All right. 

2026
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,560
So OK, now let's go with that. 
You're not doing well. 

2027
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,920
You're not doing well. 
I don't know. 

2028
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,400
What if it's I'm just throwing 
out fucking hypotheticals here. 

2029
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:29,280
What if it's like, like you 
said, you just become friends by

2030
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:33,040
that time, you know, like you're
married, but it's just like 

2031
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,640
we're we're just friends 
basically. 

2032
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,400
And you're not getting that 
fucking spice, that little spice

2033
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,880
somewhere else. 
Do you just go ahead and just 

2034
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,880
fucking or do you you handle 
your fucking marriage first? 

2035
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,080
I think a lot of the problems 
that comes down to that is 

2036
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,840
communication, because I always 
think there's one partner in the

2037
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,640
dust left out to the wind. 
On the outside looking in on. 

2038
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:00,080
The outside looking in, he 
thinks that everything's fine or

2039
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,400
she thinks that everything's 
fine and the other one says 

2040
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,440
Nope, I've been unhappy for 
years. 

2041
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,800
You never The communication was 
what? 

2042
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,640
You know what I'm trying to say.
The communication was never 

2043
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:12,480
there, right? 
What you guys weren't 

2044
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:15,000
communicating in the beginning. 
And that's the sign of the 

2045
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,520
downward spiral of the marriage,
not just the fact that she's 

2046
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,440
flirting with her other dudes, 
sending pictures, whatever the 

2047
01:36:20,440 --> 01:36:23,280
fuck this one was. 
So I think that even though you 

2048
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,720
say, oh, it's happily if, if 
somebody's doing that, it's not,

2049
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,280
there's something, there's some 
sort of problem there. 

2050
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:33,400
So what I would say in this 
question is figure out what that

2051
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,280
problem is. 
Talk. 

2052
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:37,520
Communicate. 
Communicate. 

2053
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,960
Figure it out. 
Say what's wrong, say what's on 

2054
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,600
your mind, and even if you have 
to tell them what you've been 

2055
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:46,280
doing, you do it. 
Kind of like, hey, this is 

2056
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:47,640
what's happening in our in our 
marriage. 

2057
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,600
Yes, obviously this is a this is
a issue. 

2058
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,400
We need to correct it. 
I've actually fucking been 

2059
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,600
sending fucking tits to fucking 
another fucking person. 

2060
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,080
Sure. 
As long as if, even if it's 

2061
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,120
super shocking, as long as it 
gets the conversation going, the

2062
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,280
only way you're going to solve 
something is if you talk about 

2063
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:09,360
it. 
That I think that's the biggest 

2064
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:10,960
problem with marriages in 
today's. 

2065
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,720
No communication. 
You just, you just breakdown. 

2066
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,240
You're not the same people that 
you were when you got married at

2067
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,840
the beginning. 
You become standoff as you do 

2068
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:20,240
your own thing, and you don't 
just. 

2069
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,560
Just talk and don't be sending 
fucking. 

2070
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:25,440
And don't. 
Yeah. 

2071
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:27,960
Talk first. 
Then send tits. 

2072
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,120
Talk it out if it doesn't work. 
It doesn't work. 

2073
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:31,400
Send as many tits. 
As you want. 

2074
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,280
Send me tits yeah. 
Let's talk about it first. 

2075
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,120
Figure it out, figure out your 
problems. 

2076
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,160
I don't know communication. 
I just I I must I'm a huge trick

2077
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,600
like. 
Communication guy, I agree. 

2078
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,600
Communication, talk, it doesn't 
matter if it's going to be an 

2079
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,160
awkward conversation, she's 
going to get mad, whatever, just

2080
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:50,040
talk about it. 
And then you always use that. 

2081
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,440
Well, if we don't talk about it,
I'm telling you, guys, listen, 

2082
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,920
guys out there listening, you 
bring that up. 

2083
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,960
Well, if we don't talk about it,
it'll never get resolved. 

2084
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,920
It'll instantly get refreshed. 
Even if it's a touchy subject, 

2085
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:04,560
She'll come. 
She'll be happy that you 

2086
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,040
actually at least at least came 
to her. 

2087
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:07,800
Yeah. 
Works. 

2088
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:09,560
Telling you I've done that in 
the past. 

2089
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,040
Telling you I've done it, I've 
done it in a relationship, Yeah.

2090
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,040
Where I'm like, hey. 
This is the problem. 

2091
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:15,680
This is not working out. 
Even if. 

2092
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,440
Even if she gets mad about it, 
it's better to talk about. 

2093
01:38:18,440 --> 01:38:20,600
It this is not this is not 
working out the way that I would

2094
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,520
want our relationship to be 
working out. 

2095
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,320
And this is where I, I'm 
standing at this moment. 

2096
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,120
You know, there may or may not 
be, you know, somebody else 

2097
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,680
who's showing me interest. 
I do not want to reciprocate, 

2098
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:35,800
however, because I love you. 
I'm having fun. 

2099
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:40,320
However, if I don't feel that 
from you anymore, correct, 

2100
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,360
Obviously, then what are we 
doing here? 

2101
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:44,480
Yep. 
You know what I mean? 

2102
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,760
Actually. 
I I I've been this can. 

2103
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:51,200
This can actually be good for 
you because it can steer you in 

2104
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:52,840
the direction that you want to 
go in the rest of your life. 

2105
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,040
You don't waste your time, 
right? 

2106
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:55,960
And if you're not happy, don't 
be happy. 

2107
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,040
Explain why you're not happy. 
That's all I gotta say. 

2108
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:00,880
Don't just keep it fucking 
bottled. 

2109
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,680
In fucking Doctor Garrett. 
Don't just keep it bottled in. 

2110
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:05,280
I'm just saying don't keep it 
bottled in. 

2111
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,240
Just explain because if you keep
it bottled in, it's never going 

2112
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,000
to end, right? 
It's always going to end. 

2113
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:12,920
It's going to end bad, Yeah. 
So eventually. 

2114
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,640
Even if it starts to fight 
today, get the fight done today 

2115
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,200
and figure out the problem now. 
Then go down 10 years down the 

2116
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,080
road and then have a shitty 
fucking ending to your 

2117
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,520
relationship. 
Definitely. 

2118
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,840
It's not worth it. 
Get the fight done now fight 

2119
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:29,520
now. 
Get the. 

2120
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,800
Fuck up in someone's face. 
Fucking fight. 

2121
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,160
I'm just. 
Kidding, I love you all. 

2122
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:40,560
Yeah, Gary, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm 
impressed with you. 

2123
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:42,280
I like that. 
OK, that was good. 

2124
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:44,680
True words. 
Ten years, by the way. 

2125
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,760
Ten years married, yeah. 
Ten years, married at 32. 

2126
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,040
Not bad, not. 
Bad. 

2127
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:50,840
Not bad. 
Not saying I'm an expert, I'm 

2128
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:51,920
not. 
I have no clue. 

2129
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,880
I have no clue what I'm doing. 
I'm not an expert. 

2130
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,800
No clue what I'm doing. 
But it works out. 

2131
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:57,520
But it works. 
Out. 

2132
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,560
But I would have to say like for
example you're. 

2133
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,320
Your marriage with Kelly, like 
both of you. 

2134
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:07,040
Oh, we, we fight like hell. 
It's like a loving fight. 

2135
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,120
But you we communicate, you 
communicate, correct? 

2136
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,920
It's the I'm telling you 100%. 
It's the biggest fucking thing. 

2137
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:18,480
Communication's huge. 
And by that, it puts you both on

2138
01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:22,320
the same fucking page. 
You're you both know what is 

2139
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,160
expected of each other. 
You know exactly. 

2140
01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:26,120
We're fucking up. 
We know we're fucking up. 

2141
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:27,440
Right. 
Even if we fuck. 

2142
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:30,680
Up we're like, hey, I fucked up 
so. 

2143
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:33,840
Wow, Garam. 
I really am. 

2144
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:35,320
I'm really impressed. 
That's good. 

2145
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,400
So keep sending them titty 
pictures. 

2146
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,400
Yeah. 
I'm just kidding. 

2147
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:42,720
I'm just kidding. 
I'm just kidding. 

2148
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,200
Figure it out. 
First, yes, and then keep 

2149
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:45,200
sending them that's. 
Right. 

2150
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:47,800
If it's if it doesn't go 
anywhere, send the titties, send

2151
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:48,960
the titties, send the titties, 
whatever. 

2152
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,920
At least you tried. 
You have to try. 

2153
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,320
The true, the true crime 
douchebags send the tits. 

2154
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,400
Yeah, send the titties. 
I mean, I'm not going to say no 

2155
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,480
to titties if anybody wants to 
send them, but you know, hey, 

2156
01:40:57,480 --> 01:41:01,160
whatever. 
All right, so that'll do it for 

2157
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:06,760
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2158
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