1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,880 Hello and welcome back Shark. Here's to another episode of 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,120 Deep Dives with Sharks. My name is Alex, the guy who 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,400 gets your episodes out to you, at minimum, at least a day late, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,560 if not even longer. So quick little update. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,400 I always have those, of course, after running polls, which I do 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,920 those as well and trying to give people what they want. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,640 The shark cures are a little bit divided. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,640 So this is going to be another three shark episode, but I am 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,520 going to swap between doing 3 shark episodes and episodes that 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,440 have shark safety and news. I'm also going to throw in some 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,400 analysis from time to time. Every time I run the polls, 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,320 people tend to like a little bit of all three of those. 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,880 So I honestly thought that there'd be one that stuck out a 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,360 lot more than the other, and I'm not sure which one I thought it 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,520 would be. But just on top of it, you guys 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,720 seem to like a little bit of all of them. 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,760 So I'll kind of try to give everyone a little bit of what 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,680 they want, which eventually might turn out to be a problem, 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,960 but we'll find out in the future. 20 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,120 For right now, we're kind of juggling in OK. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,360 I also do want to do some sort of like aquarium reviews, but I 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,320 don't know if that would really fit in as much. 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,280 And simply just because I go to a lot of different aquariums 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,560 whenever in a different city, I try to see if they have one. 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,880 And I'd want to discuss which sharks they have there, how 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,280 active you should expect them to be. 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,560 So nurse sharks would be more hanging out on the bottom. 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,600 Meanwhile, whale sharks would be swimming around the entire time. 29 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,840 And also what experiences you can have with those sharks and 30 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,120 other animals as well, such as behind the scenes tours, feeding 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,040 experiences. And in some cases, you can also 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,280 go diving or snorkeling with them, which is wild. 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,840 So I'm going to run a pole again, because you know, they, 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,760 they, they let me know what you guys are thinking. 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,280 It'll be on Spotify, on the Discord, and also on the 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Instagram. So it'll all be there and it's 37 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,320 going to go for about two weeks. So probably going to end around 38 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:52,800 January 24th or 25th of 2025. So we'll see how that turns out. 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Now you may also be wondering if I put an episode out last week, 40 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,240 why we have one this week, And that's because last week's was 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,480 late, as I mentioned. So I'm forcing myself to be a 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,760 little bit more consistent and stay on schedule because it's 43 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,960 supposed to come out every two weeks on Friday. 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,880 And sometimes it'll be a little bit late. 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,160 But I'm going to also try to be more consistent with that just 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,760 so that way you guys can know what to expect. 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Which also can't wait to start off the next episode by 48 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,080 apologizing for being late again. 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,200 And it's kind of my signature at this point. 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,680 And in true fashion, this one's out on Saturday rather than 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Friday. But that was more of a 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,760 technological issue because I recorded this last night at 53 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,160 10:30. I went to upload it and I got an 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,240 error message. And when I clicked OK, the page 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,280 refreshed and the episode was just gone. 56 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,720 And I looked everywhere on the files that my laptop on the 57 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,200 website that I used and it just is nowhere to be found. 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,760 And at that point it was late and I did not feel like doing it 59 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,960 again. So here here we are Saturday 60 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,560 morning, we're recording it. We got this. 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,480 I did also make a YouTube and I also have like a page that just 62 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,840 has all my links to everything. So the YouTube, Instagram, 63 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,320 discord, everything like that. Anything that I kind of say that 64 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,680 I'll throw a link for it in the the description will be what I 65 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,600 throw in here just so that way you guys can get a nice easy 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,120 place to find everything and not have to try to figure out which 67 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,320 links to Click to get where. It'll just be right there and 68 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,200 tell you that so that should be in the description of this 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,920 episode as well. Of course you can follow along 70 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:31,440 on Instagram, YouTube, Twitch, we're kind of everywhere. 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,360 If you look up deep dives with sharks and it's not on there and 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,040 you want it to be, then let me know and I'll try to get it on 73 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,880 wherever it is that you guys would like it to be. 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,080 But I have mentioned that part of the reason why I started this 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,800 podcast was because I would share too many shark facts with 76 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,040 my friends and I couldn't keep track of all my shark facts. 77 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Well, two of the sharks are talking about this episode are 78 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,280 easily two of the sharks I shared the most facts about. 79 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,400 So for those of you that knew me in college, I'm really sorry. 80 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 You're going to hear about these sharks a little bit more today. 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,160 But without further ado, let's jump into the first one, which 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,720 is going to be the lemon shark. Now, I asked you guys a while 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,840 ago to request this shark and you guys came through. 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,360 I love these little goobers and I'm going to pour my heart and 85 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,400 soul into this. So to start, the lemon shark was 86 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,160 first discovered in 1868 by Felipe Poe. 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,240 Now, the lemon shark got its name because they have a yellow 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,080 color to them, which compared to the typical Gray, so they're not 89 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,360 completely yellow. They're not as yellow as an 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,200 American zebra shark or an Australian leopard shark, which 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,520 are the same shark, by the way. And I cover them in episode 1, 92 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,800 which is a shameless plug, but they are more yellow than a 93 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,840 nurse shark, which looks a bit more purplish. 94 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Now lemon sharks are usually 2.4 to 3.1 meters or 7.9 to 10.2 95 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,600 feet long. All the longest lemon shark 96 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:54,600 caught was 11.3 feet or 3.43 meters and 183.7 kilograms or 97 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,240 405 lbs. The lemon shark's head looks 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,280 rather similar to a black tip reef shark, but they're bigger 99 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,000 and slightly different. The head is flat with a rounded 100 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,720 nose. Their nostrils sit rather 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,000 central on their face and their mouth appears wide but is rather 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,560 average, which sounds like the most backhanded compliment. 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Like now they don't have a big mouth, it's just aggressively 104 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,120 average. Thanks dog, going to cherish 105 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,200 that one forever now. They do have two dorsal fins and 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,280 they are about the same size. 1 is dead center on their back and 107 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,360 the other hits about the three quarter mark on their back, 108 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,520 perfectly in between their front dorsal and their tail. 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Their fins do appear to sit further back than other sharks, 110 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,960 but that could just be the angle the pictures I saw because 111 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,160 everything else didn't really mention that their fins are any 112 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,360 further back on their body, their pectoral fins. 113 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,000 I'm saying than any other shark. So you know I I could just be 114 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,960 seeing things now. The lemon shark does utilize its 115 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,840 ambulate of Lorenzini to hunt at night and detect electronic 116 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,480 pulses admitted by their prey. So they don't have to rely on 117 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,880 eyesight in low light. And you can see some of those 118 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,080 are like the little black freckles they get around their 119 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,680 nose. Now, these sharks tend to be 120 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,400 found in the Atlantic Ocean more than the Pacific, but they can 121 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,240 be found in New Jersey all the way down to Brazil. 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,040 So US down to Brazil, which includes the Gulf of Mexico, the 123 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Caribbean and can be found in Baja California in Mexico, down 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,320 through Central America as far as Ecuador, which is not 125 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,360 including the Galapagos Islands, but they do get out to Saul 126 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,640 Island in Cape Verde. So they are both in the Pacific 127 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,840 and the Atlantic, but the range goes a bit longer in the 128 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:31,160 Atlantic. Now they tend to like shallower 129 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,480 waters such as reefs, mangroves, bays and river mouths, although 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,400 they have been found to go as deep as 92 meters or 301 feet in 131 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,120 the open ocean. They can go into brackish water, 132 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,360 but they tend not to go in too far into the freshwater, 133 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,400 preferring not to throw off their salinity balance. 134 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Bull sharks are one of the ones that like to go a bit further 135 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,320 and can maintain that salinity balance for a while longer and 136 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,720 they can even stay in there for years. 137 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,920 But lemon sharks, they need to stay a bit more closer to the 138 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,000 salt water. Now the lemon sharks prefer to 139 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,240 stay in areas that have rocky or sandy bottoms as they give fewer 140 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,080 places for prey to hide, unlike grass areas that have seagrass 141 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,720 in them, which can be very thick and more difficult to get 142 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,680 through. It also allows a smaller fish to 143 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,280 navigate through that easier, which allows prey to escape a 144 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,000 bit easier. Often lemon sharks will spend 145 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,440 long periods of time in mangroves because they like the 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,000 root systems that can provide cover for their young and also 147 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,440 as a breeding ground for their prey. 148 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,240 So it kind of creates an essential buffet for these 149 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,560 sharks, which I mean, who doesn't love a good buffet? 150 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,680 Now they'll stay in there for a long while would causing them to 151 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,720 be a shark to break the stereotype that all sharks are 152 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,120 opportunistic predators, as they would have left the mangroves 153 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,600 pretty quickly as soon as the food became unavailable. 154 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,760 But instead they stuck around for a while as the vibes were 155 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,800 just a little too Immaculate. I mean, have you ever hung 156 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,800 around the mangroves? It's really peaceful, it's 157 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,680 calming, it's nice. I get it. 158 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,920 I paddle boarded through them before. 159 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,040 It's just chef's kissed, but it's perfect. 160 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Now, these sharks have a somewhat selective diet. 161 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,040 They eat smaller sharks, birds, crustaceans, benthic organisms, 162 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Bony fish, Ray's catfish, mullet, sorry, mullet, jacks, 163 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,160 porcupine fish and cowfish, which doesn't sound very 164 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,440 selective. That's quite a list. 165 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,800 But they don't target fish that are fasting get away easy. 166 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,440 They prefer fish that try to utilize camouflage to hide or 167 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,400 those that are stationary while foraging. 168 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,040 So it'll kind of be hanging out in place. 169 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,840 They're just easier to get. And lemon sharks aren't 170 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,520 necessarily built for speed. They're rather agile, but 171 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,760 they're not quite the speediest guys. 172 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,080 Makos got them very beat on that one. 173 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,440 Now they hunt in a very interesting way as well. 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,600 Rather than trying to move to get a clean bite and trying to 175 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,840 get ambush tactics, they seem to go more for confusion. 176 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,920 They will fly in at their prey and stop quickly keeping 177 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,960 momentum. And then they jab, taking 178 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,320 multiple bites until they get a good hold where they will shake 179 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,840 their head to remove a bit to eat. 180 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,240 So they kind of come flying in, pull up and they're like, oh, 181 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,600 gotcha. And then get them like this kind 182 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,400 of bite them. It's interesting now when they 183 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:09,600 finally get a piece that they can consume, they will cause a 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,120 feeding frenzy because they like to stay in groups. 185 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,080 So all their family and friends are now involved as there's 186 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,080 blood in the water, which as many of you know blood triggers 187 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,160 the sharks hunting instincts. So they'll smell that blood and 188 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,040 then they'll kind of just go crazy for it. 189 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Now, a quick side note, researchers found that several 190 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,200 pieces of the same Stingray were found in the stomachs of several 191 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,280 lemon sharks, which was identified through DNA or 192 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,920 something similar, of course, but my brain and merely went to 193 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,200 oh, Stingray puzzle before actually thinking about it. 194 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,680 But you know, sometimes the ADHD bring an ADHD and that that's 195 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:44,680 just kind of funny. I mean, I don't think any 196 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:48,480 researchers were reassembling a Stingray after they were 197 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:54,200 dissecting sharks, but you know, it's fine now as mentioned, 198 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,720 these sharks do not enjoy being alone. 199 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,520 They like groups and prefer the buddy system. 200 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,760 This helps with hunting safety, better communication and the 201 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 males can of course work on their game with the ladies or as 202 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,560 the kids say, they can enhance their riz. 203 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,520 And after that line, this podcast is definitely canceled. 204 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,760 I appreciate y'all listening. Can't get wait, cannot wait to 205 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,760 get roasted for that one. And you know, don't hold back. 206 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Appreciate you guys, but we willpower through regardless. 207 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Now these groups can be as large enough to include 20 individuals 208 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,320 and often are based on size of the sharks. 209 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,400 So unfortunately there's a height requirement to vibe with 210 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,760 different lemon sharks. But fret not short kings, 211 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,240 because there are downsides to these social groups, such as 212 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,400 creating an environment in which parasites and diseases can be 213 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,400 transferred rather easily and it creates more food competition. 214 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,680 So sharks don't really look out for each other when it comes to 215 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:50,920 food. Their predatory instinct just 216 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,200 kicks in and it becomes more of a what's mine is mine and what's 217 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,520 yours is also mine. So the next point is one of my 218 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,320 favorite facts I would tell people all the time when I was 219 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,280 in college or working as a bartender, and that is that 220 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,840 lemon sharks give live birth, which means that lemon sharks 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,640 have belly buttons and that is just exciting. 222 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Many sharks, as I mentioned, are Ovo viviperous, which means that 223 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,200 they will have eggs that hatch and then once the yolk sacks 224 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,560 gone, the belly button tends to start being less noticeable. 225 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:24,920 You can also notice it in a puppy's belly button, you know, 226 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,080 when they're really young, but then as they get older, it's 227 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,480 like harder to see kind of go. Same with the shark. 228 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,280 So when it's a newborn pup, you can see the belly button really 229 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,440 well and it's just really cool. But they do give birth in the 230 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,240 mangroves, which aids protection, and they will 231 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,640 typically give birth to up to 18 pups, although usually a lot 232 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,800 less. They are targeted by fishers for 233 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,360 a variety of reasons. It includes its meat, fins, 234 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,000 skins and all for commercial uses. 235 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,680 Overfishing is the biggest threat to lemon sharks as there 236 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:59,120 has been a large decrease in the lemon shark population over the 237 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,800 past 50 years. And that's been about a 50% to a 238 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,040 79% decrease, which is rather alarming. 239 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,760 That's got to hold up a little bit or let up a little bit 240 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,000 because that could be very concerning if not. 241 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Now, when it comes to interacting with humans, they do 242 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,080 interact quite a bit being in the shallower waters. 243 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,840 They're also one of those sharks that do tend to get a lot of 244 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,840 tourism around them. But one thing I will say is that 245 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,880 there have been very few bites. There have only been 11 246 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,480 unprovoked bites and none have led to anyone's death, which one 247 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,160 thing I haven't discussed in a little bit is unprovoked versus 248 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,640 provoked bites. An unprovoked bite is when 249 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,400 you're kind of just hanging out in the water and you're doing 250 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,320 really nothing wrong and a shark just bites you. 251 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,320 That's an unprovoked bite. Provoked bite is. 252 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,880 We've seen videos of people messing with sharks doing things 253 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,000 like that. I think the worst I saw, or most 254 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,600 deserved I'll say, was a nurse shark that was chilling in its 255 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,520 cave and this diver just grabbed it by the tail and pulled it 256 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,040 out. Thankfully, nurse sharks are 257 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,800 very much more flea than fight, so it just swam away. 258 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,240 But if you keep pestering it, it will bite you. 259 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,160 And that's a provoked bite. So essentially, if you don't 260 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,720 mess with a shark and get bit unprovoked, if you're messing 261 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,800 with the shark, it's provoked. So that just a quick little run 262 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,720 down there. Now, a rather fun thing about 263 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,440 lemon sharks is you can find so many videos of these guys being 264 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,120 curious of so many different things, especially alligators in 265 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,720 Florida. One of my favorites was a 266 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,680 juvenile alligator just chilling on the surface of some deeper 267 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:36,320 water. And there were four juvenile 268 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,760 lemon sharks just circling and trying to figure out what he is. 269 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,440 And you can see him getting a little bit closer. 270 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,280 They're not exhibiting any sort of aggressive behavior, just 271 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,200 kind of circling, looking and getting a little bit close to 272 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,920 get a look. And the Gators just hanging out. 273 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,920 And one got a little too close and like touched his foot and he 274 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,320 like jumped at him to be like, it's kind of like when something 275 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,520 touches your foot in the water, you, you jump, you're like, what 276 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,720 in the world? And all the lemon sharks, the 277 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,000 ones just scattered. And it was, it was kind of funny 278 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,680 and really neat to see, but definitely something to look up 279 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:05,760 if you guys can find that, because there there's a whole 280 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,560 bunch of these little lemon sharks messing around with 281 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:09,240 people and looking at different things. 282 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,960 It's kind of fun, but that's what I had for the lemon shark. 283 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,880 I do appreciate you guys requesting them a lot because 284 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,720 that was easily my most requested one. 285 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,640 I think after that episode, everyone and their mother put 286 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,160 the request under the episode, so I do appreciate you guys very 287 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,920 much for that one. It's been a lot of fun to look 288 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,400 into. Now getting into the next shark. 289 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,880 This shark's been very special for me for a few reasons. 290 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,840 It's going to be the spinner shark. 291 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,280 And the first shark fact I used to always share and I even put 292 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,520 in my man of honor speech at my sister's wedding was that 293 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,000 spinner sharks got their name because they spin while hunting 294 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,920 and breach the water, which is just such an easy one to quickly 295 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,760 pull up and remember. It didn't matter what state I 296 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,800 was in. I could just be like, Oh yeah, 297 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,240 by the way, lemon spinner shark get their name because they spin 298 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 and people be like, oh, cool. Yep, that's that's really it. 299 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,720 And yes, I was the man of honor at my sister's wedding because 300 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,280 we're tight like that and also we all agree that the world 301 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,840 needs more shark facts. So give me a mic and I'll start 302 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 spitting any shark fact that comes to mind. 303 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,760 I did also set her up and I get to ask what's the three largest 304 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,280 sharks by straight up adding in my speech that I can almost 305 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,880 guarantee she can tell you the three largest sharks because 306 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,560 I've told her a million times be sure to ask her at some point 307 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,560 tonight. And then gave a nice thumbs up 308 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,520 and she did in fact get them correct. 309 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,080 And by the time she got over to my table to say hi to everyone 310 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,840 she hit me because she'd been asked 6 times. 311 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,880 And I want to thank the crowd at her wedding for doing that 312 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,880 because that is hilarious to me. But anyway, spinner sharks have 313 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,000 been confused for a black tip reef or sorry, black tip sharks 314 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,320 as they do have a bit of black on the top and ends of their 315 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,480 fins. Now it's also not to be confused 316 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,400 with the black tip reef shark as I just tried to say that are a 317 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,480 bit smaller than black tip sharks and they do have other 318 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,480 differences, but we aren't talking about either one of 319 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,640 those today, so they don't spin. So we're just going to leave 320 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,040 them out of it for right now. Now spinner sharks tend to grow 321 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,440 to be about two meters or 6.6 feet and can weigh around 56 322 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,240 kilograms or 123 lbs. Although some have gotten as 323 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,520 large as 3 meters which is 9.8 feet and 90kg or 200 lbs which 324 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,000 altogether is not that large of a difference between their 325 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,360 average and Max sizes. When compared to other sharks 326 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,360 that will have usually a few feet or meters and a couple 327 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,000 £100, they only have an extra meter and about 40 kilograms 328 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,560 which still is a big size difference but not as much as 329 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,280 say the great white would have. Now these sharks are rather 330 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,640 slim. They almost resemble the body of 331 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,600 a thresher shark minus the long tail. 332 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Their dorsal fin is short in relation to the rest of their 333 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,080 body. Their pectoral fins are a bit 334 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,080 longer and they're sickle shaped, which means they have a 335 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,440 little bit of a curve to them. Their nose gets on the pointer 336 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,400 side and longer than most sharks and their eyes are on the 337 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,040 smaller side, which the description of these guys kind 338 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,120 of just sounds a little bit like a rose session. 339 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,000 I swear they are beautiful sharks. 340 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,720 I'm not just trying to pick on them even though it sounds like 341 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,800 it, but the good differences between other sharks. 342 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,160 They it's just they have a lot of slightly different things 343 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,319 about them. Now, they do have about 15 to 18 344 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:15,839 rows of teeth in their upper jaw. 345 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,640 They'll have about 14 to 17 rows in their lower jaw. 346 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,319 Their teeth are narrow and have fine serrations in the upper 347 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:25,640 jaw, but are completely smooth on the lower jaw. 348 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,520 So spinach sharks are mostly grey with some black spots 349 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,160 speckled around them, but especially on the tops of their 350 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,680 fins and the tips of their fins. These black bits on their fins 351 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,840 become more prominent as they age as the juveniles do not have 352 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,240 any black on them. These sharks are also very agile 353 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,320 thanks to the shape of their fins that help to cut through 354 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,040 the water compared to the triangular shape. 355 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,040 When you have a little bit of curve to it, it helps to get 356 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:53,160 less resistance. They form schools based on age 357 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,360 and sex because you know, got to keep the kids cool and also stop 358 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,200 any spread of cooties because you know, gross. 359 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,240 But jokes aside, the juveniles do actually prefer cooler water 360 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,320 temperatures, but they move to warmer waters as they age. 361 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,080 Spinners are found all around the world, including North 362 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,960 Carolina down to the northern bits of the Gulf of Mexico, the 363 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Bahamas, Cuba, Brazil down to Argentina, North Africa down to 364 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:22,680 Namibia, the Indian Ocean, South Africa, Madagascar, the Red Sea, 365 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,040 Gulf of Aden, India, Java, Sumatra, Japan, Vietnam, 366 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,840 Australia, and they're believed to be in the Philippines, 367 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,240 although the Philippines have not confirmed sightings at this 368 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,720 point. So strong maybe for there, when 369 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,400 looking at parasites found on the sharks, it can be determined 370 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,760 that spinner sharks do pass through the Suez Canal. 371 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,240 And I'm not trying to point any fingers here, but y'all remember 372 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,120 that ship that got stuck in the Suez? 373 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:50,120 Well, I mean, I would also hook a sharp left turn if I saw 374 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,680 spinner sharks just twirling out the water and I'd definitely run 375 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,320 ashore. So I mean, I can't see I'd blame 376 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,600 them. I got to go watch that. 377 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,440 That's just cool. Now, spinach sharks can spend 378 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,440 their time around depths about 100 meters or 330 feet, but they 379 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,360 often prefer shallower than 30 meters or 98 feet. 380 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,000 But they're found all throughout the water column in between. 381 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Mostly, of course, between 30 meters and up. 382 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,920 They also migrate within the seasons, often moving with the 383 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,280 warmer waters, unless they're juvenile, then they'll chill in 384 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,480 the colder waters, but still not too cold. 385 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,040 They're not about that ice cold life. 386 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,280 They got to talk to the Greenland sharks about that one. 387 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,320 But they'll stay a little bit more northern than the adults, 388 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,480 so that way they can keep their body temperatures just a little 389 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,480 bit cooler. The spinach shark often eats 390 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,320 smaller Bony fish, but quite a few of them will also eat 10 391 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,240 pounders, sardines, herring, anchovies, catfish, mullets, 392 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,240 lizardfish, blue fins, tunas, Benito jacks, croakers, tung 393 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,360 souls, and mojaras. But they'll also hunt Stingrays, 394 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:51,360 cuttlefish, octopi, and squid. Which, side note, shark here is 395 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:54,320 you have to look up a cuttlefish if you do not know what that is. 396 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,320 They're these little freaky little cute dudes. 397 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,640 They're probably my favorite sea creature other than sharks. 398 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,360 They have little squiggly pupils and they're they're just, they 399 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:04,600 can change color. It's you got to look them up. 400 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,120 They're really neat. They got little tentacles on 401 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:07,800 their face. It's Oh my gosh, I love them. 402 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,320 But anyway, to go a little more in depth about how the sharks 403 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,720 get their name, they will often find a school of smaller fish. 404 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,400 They'll approach from below, similar to what a great right 405 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,720 does, kick it into Top Gear, and then they just start rotating 406 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,520 while flying through the water column and just biting like a 407 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,800 chain shop from Super Mario Brothers 3. 408 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:29,920 Because they're often aren't very deep in the water, the 409 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,520 momentum will send them into the air still spinning, thus showing 410 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,920 those wonderful images of them spinning through the air. 411 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,120 They are highly intelligent around Madagascar as they've 412 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,800 realized that the shrimp trawlers will easily lead to 413 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,640 free meals They'll tossed by catch overboard, which can often 414 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,200 lead to a feeding frenzy, which lots of feeding frenzies on this 415 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,160 podcast recently. Just pretty neat. 416 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 When it comes to reproduction, these gals are rather similar to 417 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,960 the lemon sharks as they also give live birth, which means 418 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,880 we've got more shark belly buttons. 419 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Woo. The spinner shark gives birth to 420 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,640 about 3 to 20 pups, which is an insane range. 421 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,160 So to narrow it down a little bit, the average is anywhere 422 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,880 between 7:00 and 11:00. The size of the pups depends on 423 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080 the geographic location, as pups born in the northern Atlantic 424 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:22,560 range between 66 to 77 centimeters or 26 to 30 inches, 425 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,080 while pups in Tunisia they'll be between 61 and 69 centimeters 426 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,160 nice, or 24 to 27 inches, But in South Africa the pups are around 427 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,160 60cm or 24 inches. Being short, I clearly was not 428 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,560 born in the northern Atlantic. Might have gotten a few more 429 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,600 inches if I was, but of course, my selfish parents gave birth to 430 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,960 a human baby in a hospital instead of in the ocean. 431 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,720 It's ridiculous. But spinners typically live to 432 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,240 be about 15 to 20 years old, which sounds kind of short, but 433 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,840 it's rather long considering the lifespan of an anchovy, for 434 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,600 example, is 7 years if they're lucky, but usually it's about 435 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,160 four years or less. So spinners get about, you know, 436 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,000 three times as long as an anchovy and get absolutely 437 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,760 wrecked. Anchovies. 438 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,600 You go great on pizza sometimes, I guess. 439 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,960 I don't know. Now these sharks pose very 440 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,840 little threat to humans as they have only been 16 bites with one 441 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,200 being provoked, so they do kind of act out a little bit but very 442 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,920 very minimally. Usually you'll see a lot more 443 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,320 provoked than unprovoked, but none of the bites were fatal. 444 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,000 Same with the lemon sharks. Spinach sharks are haunted for 445 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,080 their meat and are sold in the US as black tip shark as black 446 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,760 tips are seen as higher quality which is just messed up for a 447 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,880 variety of reasons. Now recreational fishers also 448 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,360 enjoy catching spinner sharks as they tend to put up a good 449 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:37,720 fight, often leaping out of the water and because of all this 450 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,720 they are listed as vulnerable but could become endangered if 451 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,360 not monitored. Which you know, it is super cool 452 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:46,280 not eating fish or any animal that is vulnerable to 453 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,240 extinction. I mean there's plenty of options 454 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,760 that are more sustainable than fishing for sharks. 455 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,320 Plus sharks are cartilage which doesn't stay together well from 456 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,320 what I've heard. And I also got to take a step 457 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,120 back here or I'm going to do go on a 90 minute yap about 458 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,600 protecting sharks, which you know, it works. 459 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,760 So I mean, guess if I was an animal you'd call me a yappy 460 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Barra, like a capy Barra. Anyway, the jokes are always 461 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,880 terrible here. So that is what I have for the 462 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,600 spinner sharks, which I really enjoy doing both of those. 463 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800 But of course we're not quite done there. 464 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,680 We've got one more for you guys. We've got the Edestus shark, 465 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,760 which getting you 2 of my favorites. 466 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,920 Now it's time to give the shark here is a little freaky guy. 467 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Well, maybe not very little because they were rather large, 468 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,680 but believed to be about 22 feet. 469 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,960 Anyway, the Edestus is an extinct fish that researchers 470 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,560 have debated whether or not they are sharks, but they are close 471 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,720 enough for me. So that works out. 472 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,320 Now, these guys are similar to the helicopterion that we 473 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,640 discussed a few episodes back as they both have tooth whirls, 474 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,320 which are just wild. And then the tooth whirls are 475 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,440 the little spiral things. So the shark that looked like it 476 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,120 had a saw blade under on its jaw. 477 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,040 So yeah, but the helicopterion had those spirals. 478 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,680 But the Edestus has tooth whirls that look more like someone 479 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,440 place to stick a dynamite in the dolphin's mouth and then 480 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,240 inserted cartoon physics so it's upper and lower jaws got blown 481 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,840 backwards towards its face. I'm very glad we don't have 482 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,720 tooth whirls as humans because that they just feel like they'd 483 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,000 be really hard to manage and maintain. 484 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,440 Now. These sharks existed around the 485 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,960 late Carboniferous, which is now the United States, United 486 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,080 Kingdom, and Russia. The similar issues arose for 487 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,800 trying to recreate the Odessus that did when researchers tried 488 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,960 to recreate the helicopterion, as nobody saw these guys when 489 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,280 they were alive and cartilage does doesn't really hold up 490 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,480 unless it's under the right circumstances. 491 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,280 So we don't really have a skeleton or structure to go off 492 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,120 of. We're just kind of putting 493 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,440 things in places and hoping it's right now. 494 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,280 Initially, scientists had the tooth whirls as defensive 495 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,080 structures for the fins, but they realized that then the 496 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,480 shark didn't have teeth. So when creating the structure, 497 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080 then tried putting the teeth horizontally in the mouth, kind 498 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,000 of how you'd see in most sharks and in humans. 499 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,040 But then they realized that it it didn't line up correctly 500 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800 unless they replaced more vertically coming from like 501 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,360 front to back in the mouth. That's giving the current 502 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,040 structure of how we believe they went together. 503 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Now they do look rather goofy, like we think Greenland sharks 504 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,960 or Pacific Seaver sleeper sharks look odd, but oh boy. 505 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,600 So for starters, those tooth whirls stick out of their face a 506 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,040 bit. Their eyes are set further back 507 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,120 and they are quite wide. They had one dorsal fin and a 508 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,600 set of pectoral fins and a tail. From what researchers have 509 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,080 recreated, they believe that they may have been brownish or 510 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,400 Gray. But I mean, they could have also 511 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,680 been neon pink. There's no evidence to suggest 512 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,840 neon pink at all. But once again, you and I 513 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,920 weren't there and I can dream. Dolphin fans get pink dolphins. 514 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,080 I want a pink shark. So maybe it was some of the 515 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,720 recreations also have these guys being a rust red. 516 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,160 So there's a lot of different colors these guys could have 517 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,520 been. Pick your favorite. 518 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,920 It is believed the sharks grow to be around 22 feet or 6.7 519 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,920 meters long. So, you know, kind of big. 520 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,840 So big, in fact, that scientists believe that it may have been 521 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840 the largest marine predator to exist at that point in history, 522 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,960 which is worded in such a weird way. 523 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,400 It almost sounds like your buddy Steve grabbed a beer and went, 524 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,400 you know, the great white could have been the largest ocean 525 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,480 predator ever. And when you question 1, he just 526 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,520 goes, well, were you there? Do you live in the ocean? 527 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,760 I don't think so. He's got a pretty good point. 528 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,960 So, you know, maybe it was the biggest one up to this point or 529 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,400 maybe it wasn't. No one was there, but it could 530 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,440 have been because 22 feet, especially back in before the 531 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,040 megalodon, you get a little bit of a benefit of the doubt there. 532 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Now, they've been very few of these fellows found as only 13 533 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,120 have been found until 2019 when researchers, marine biologists 534 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,600 and paleontologists came together to go, Nah, nine of 535 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,440 these 13 aren't valid. There's only four, which is 536 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,320 insanely low and incredibly close to us not knowing that 537 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,080 these sharks ever existed. Now the tooth first tooth whirls 538 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,000 were found as a partial found by Joseph Lighty in 1856 in 539 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,080 Muskogee County, Oklahoma. But wait, there's 150 year drama 540 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,560 because a year earlier in 1855, Edwards hit Edward Hitchcock 541 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,960 presented a fragment that was found in Park County, Indiana. 542 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,760 But at the time it was identified as a fin spine. 543 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,760 So there's still a lot of debate whether it was a fin spine or if 544 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,520 it's actually part of an Edestus. 545 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,600 It's wild that at this point we had four legit Odessa's parts 546 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,280 and in the 1850s dude were arguing over who found it first 547 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,120 and if they're even real now. Another tooth was found in 1866 548 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,480 by John Strong Newberry in Posey County, Indiana. 549 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,040 But not to be left out of discovering this new species, 550 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,040 our boy John Strong Newberry joined forces with Amos Henry 551 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Worthen in 1870, which just sounds like a dude who created a 552 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480 bunch of candies, famous Amos and Werther's, you know, just 553 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,120 anyway. But dude in the 1800s are so 554 00:27:58,120 --> 00:27:59,800 wild. There's just so many people 555 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,080 coming out with shark parts. It's weird. 556 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,280 But not to be left out, England had some discoveries by Edwin 557 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,800 Tully Newton in 19 O four that he described because he also did 558 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,440 not have the Odessa's pieces with him. 559 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,600 He stated he found the pieces in the coal measures in 560 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Staffordshire, England, which England? 561 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,280 I'm really sorry if I just it mispronounced that I should be 562 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,520 able to. I'm pretty sure it's like 563 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,920 Staffordshire or something like that. 564 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,280 He was able to produce a partial tooth that did not have an apex 565 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,840 or crown. But you know it, it worked for 566 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,320 them and it'll work for me. Now here's what things get real 567 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,840 exciting because Oliver Perry Hay brought out the first pair 568 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,280 of upper and lower tooth whirls in 1912 that were found in Lehi, 569 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,880 Iowa. Which brings us to the end of 570 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,240 the findings in the US and takes us over to Russia. 571 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,520 As in 19 O 8 remains were found near Columna, which is near 572 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,280 Moscow. And in 1912, Alexander Karpinsky 573 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,920 produced a specimen from a quarry in Moscow. 574 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,600 Now the tooth whirls were initially classified into two 575 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,680 categories. Either they were asymmetrical 576 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920 where the top or bottom jaw would hangover a little bit, so 577 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,200 you'd either have an under or an overbite, or where they were 578 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,160 symmetrical where they line up pretty perfectly. 579 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,960 Which kind of goes to show even in prehistoric times there was a 580 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,200 class struggle among sharks who could afford orthodontics and 581 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,800 those who could not. So you know, something's never 582 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,880 changed. Some people are just going to be 583 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,680 stuck with jacked up teeth and it's unfortunate, but 584 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,960 unfortunately there's not a whole lot we know about the 585 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,160 Adestus. Same thing with the Helicopreon. 586 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,400 We really can't go out here and say what they ate or anything 587 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800 like that because there's even less known about them than the 588 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,560 Megalodon. So they're trying to figure it 589 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,200 out. Of course, same thing with all 590 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,600 the sharks that I do research on. 591 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,560 If anything comes up in the future, I will very much try to 592 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,600 get that updated in Corrections Corner and things like that. 593 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,400 But that's what I have for this episode. 594 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,200 Thank you once again for everything. 595 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,360 I finished the research for this episode at 1:00 AM. 596 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,280 So I'm really sorry if this a lot of this didn't make sense. 597 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,240 I feel like it was kind of coherent, you know, and then 598 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,720 woke up early this morning to record it. 599 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,840 So, you know, everything's fine. 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