1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,360 Hello and welcome back Shark. Here's to another episode of 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,560 Deep Dives with sharks. My name is still Alex. 3 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:09,560 I've decided not to change it. I'm just going to keep being 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,800 Alex. It works, you know. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,960 Why not? But I am still fighting with 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,079 intro music, so if it's on here, awesome. 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,160 If not, I'm, I'm doing my best, you know, it's the, it's not my 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,960 Forte. I talk about sharks. 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,600 I don't make music. I'm trying, I'm trying. 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,080 We'll get there eventually, but I do have some life updates for 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,920 you guys. I officially graduated. 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,520 Woo Hoo. So I have my masters of social 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,200 work, which may confuse some of you because why is a social 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,400 worker doing a shark podcast? Well, that is simply because I 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,360 find sharks incredibly interesting. 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,000 I said in episode one that I do not work with sharks or have a 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,520 degree in shark sciences. I'm just a guy with ADHD who 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,400 loves sharks and wanted to find a way to organize all the shark 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,360 facts swirling around in my brain and somehow made it onto 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,440 your Spotify, Apple Music or other podcasts listening device. 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Now, we did also officially make it into 100 countries and I 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,000 simply just cannot believe that the shark ears came out in 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,760 droves to spread the surround to your friends, follow along on 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,000 the social media and listen to episodes even when I'm missing 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,160 because I overbooked myself. So thank you all so incredibly 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,920 much. I got to give a quick shout out 27 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,000 to Texas and Florida for being the top two states that listen 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,080 in the United States, and England and Scotland are the top 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,160 two countries listening inside the UK, which is number 2. 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,520 I'll put out more analytics if you guys are interested in that 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,560 and you can also feel free to ask about it on the social media 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,520 or if you have a specific country, you can ask about that 33 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,360 too. I am very happy to let you know 34 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,920 whatever details I have for the country you were curious about. 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,800 I'd also like to give a quick shout out to Asher over on 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Spotify as they've requested lemon sharks in the comments of 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,040 every episode since I asked you all to do that. 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,760 And every time I check the comments after an episode is 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,360 posted, there's Asher with lemon sharks and multiple exclamation 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,200 points and I absolutely love it, which I don't know why I can't 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,880 say exclamation, but it's fine. But I did want to thank you for 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,080 that. That is incredible. 43 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,840 It's without fail, every single time within a day of it going 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,680 up, the comment is there and I just love the support. 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,640 I do need to talk about something a little bit serious 46 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:18,480 ish before we get started. A few months back, a few people 47 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,000 had been bitten by sharks around Central Florida beaches. 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,840 And I try very hard not to get political on here. 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,480 I mean, not really hard. It's not too hard to not 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,800 politicize sharks. But evidently a certain 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,440 politician decided to make some statements about sharks and I'm 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,800 going to do my best to not share how I feel about them 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,480 personally, only the statements that they've recently made. 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,800 But in his speech in Nevada, Donald Trump began talking about 55 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,680 the shark bites that occurred in Florida and sort of made a 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,120 point, but sort of just blabbered about them to rile 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,160 people up a bit. And that's what it just seemed 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,280 like to me. So after attending Shark Khan, I 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,280 was able to discuss more about that. 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,040 And also I will talk more about Shark Khan in the Shark Week 61 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,160 versus Shark Fest episode, which is coming next week, by the way. 62 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,920 So woo Hoo, I seem to finish writing out the script for it, 63 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:10,800 but don't worry. But I was able to talk to some 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,440 shark experts. One of them was Jackson Hooton, 65 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,960 very great person, I definitely recommend looking more into them 66 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:19,960 and he was kind enough to feel my questions and pointed out 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,600 that the upticks of shark bites aren't really out of the 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,960 ordinary as we aren't outside the average for shark bites in 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,280 the normal year. Now, Jackson also mentioned that 70 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,280 sharks respond to hurricanes and other large storms as well as 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,760 large pressure systems coming into the Gulf area and tend to 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,560 move to different areas when they're coming, which would 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:44,000 create a density issue as more sharks are coming into an area 74 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,240 that people are in. So it's more of a density issue 75 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,240 rather than a bite issue. But but since people are at 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,280 beaches around spring break and summertime and pressure systems 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,880 and storms are coming through the area around that time as 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,160 well, sharks can move to other beaches away from the weather 79 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,800 creating a large number of sharks in the area, hence the 80 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,400 density issue. So there really is no need for 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,280 any panic as sharks aren't coming for us and also don't 82 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 support political candidates. They support Poseidon and 83 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,480 protecting the lost city of Atlantis. 84 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,640 As everyone knows now, Trump also made some other statements 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,560 about sharks getting electrocuted and some other 86 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,240 things that looking into it, I have no idea what he is talking 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,160 about here, but some people asked me to discuss this on here 88 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,080 and this is the best that I got. When it comes to solutions to 89 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,560 protect swimmers during hurricane season, there aren't a 90 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,560 whole lot because we can't just close down the beaches as that 91 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,040 affects the economy and people don't like when the economy is 92 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,280 hurt. Plus sharks aren't hunting 93 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:38,160 swimmers. So there's really not a need to 94 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,960 shut down all the beaches. It's it's not going to solve a 95 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,360 problem. Plus people are going to ignore 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,120 it anyway. They're going to still run out 97 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,560 there. I mean, we've all seen people 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,000 walk through a do not walk sign or sidewalk closed. 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,360 What's going to stop them from being like, I paid to be here, 100 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,880 I'm a go ahead and go on the beach anyway. 101 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,120 So, you know, that wouldn't really solve too much there 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,160 anyway. Hunting sharks would destroy the 103 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,400 ecosystem as sharks are an apex predator and eliminating them 104 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,360 will send an already fragile ecosystem into a spiral. 105 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,800 So that doesn't really work either. 106 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,200 A couple people have asked about shark Nets. 107 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,680 These were used very frequently in Australia, especially in the 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,800 early 2000s and a little bit before. 109 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,280 But sharks can either swim around them, trapping them 110 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:20,160 closer to the beach where people are, or they get caught in them 111 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,480 and can suffocate, which kills endangered or threatened 112 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,440 species. Plus, it also doesn't only kill 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,640 sharks, it also kills other fish as well, once again sending that 114 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,120 ecosystem into a spiral. So the only thing that should 115 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,240 happen is that people should keep an eye out when you're in 116 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,760 the water, when they're swimming in the ocean. 117 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Just be cautious. I'm going to give y'all a little 118 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,480 rule that my mom, good old Mama sandwich was a nickname I had in 119 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,240 high school. It's fine. 120 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,960 I was called Sandwiches. I don't know if my mom wants me 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,680 putting her actual name out here, so we're just going to go 122 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,480 Mama sandwich. It works. 123 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,200 But you would always tell my sister and I when we were out at 124 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,280 Ocean City to not go in the water past their hips for a 125 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,360 couple reasons. For one, we do get a decent 126 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,680 number of riptides out there, and she was erring on the side 127 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,320 of caution. You know, let's just not have 128 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,800 the kids get swept away in the ocean. 129 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,080 It's going to kind of put a damper on the vacation. 130 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,480 Also, the water was rather murky. 131 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,520 It wasn't dirty, it just had a lot of phytoplankton and other 132 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,200 small organisms that didn't really pose a threat to humans. 133 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,480 But visibility was still very limited. 134 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,960 Pretty much about by the time you got halfway up your shin you 135 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,440 couldn't see your feet. And I'm not a very tall person 136 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:26,080 so it's not like I'm 68 and my shins like 4 feet up my leg. 137 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,960 Like it I'm I'm 5-6 for anyone wondering. 138 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,520 So not that tall, but like still you get halfway up your shit and 139 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,520 I can't see my feet anymore. So there's not a whole lot of 140 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,520 space there, but seeing it hip, that hip depth meant that it 141 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,560 would be real hard for something to sneak up on US. 142 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,600 Florida beaches are beautiful and I love going to Clearwater, 143 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,920 Indian Rocks or Saint Pete as the water is crystal clear in 144 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,040 comparison. Does get a little bit more murky 145 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,600 when the storms come through, but you can see much better. 146 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,800 But when I know shark activity is up, I remember good old Mama 147 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,520 sandwich and don't go past my hips. 148 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,800 I can still kneel in the water and it's off to my shoulders. 149 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Did my head under to cool off real quick, but still get up and 150 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,440 get out the way if something's getting a little too 151 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,360 inquisitive. Mostly the the fish over there. 152 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,920 There's the sharks don't really come and I've seen maybe one 153 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,360 shark over there. I've seen a million and a half 154 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,800 fish. They just keep coming trying to 155 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,600 figure out what I'm doing. But there's no need to be 156 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,680 afraid, go in the ocean or feel that sharks are losing their 157 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,000 minds because of an upcoming political election. 158 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,320 The weather has changed and the sharks are responding to that. 159 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,960 They aren't hunting humans and should never be used as a tool 160 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,000 to push fear onto others. But that's the end of my little 161 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,480 rant for now. Spoiler alert, I'm going to talk 162 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,960 more about that during the safety portion of the episode. 163 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,840 But of course, if you have any questions, comments, concerns, 164 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,120 send them over to the Instagram or Twitter. 165 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,600 I'm not going to debate anyone politically there though, so if 166 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,400 you want to know my political thoughts, that's not the place. 167 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Sorry, But I'm here to talk about sharks and interesting 168 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,240 shark things. So sharks don't understand 169 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,400 politics, they just understand swim, blub, and food. 170 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,720 But feel free to follow along on Instagram at Deep Dives with 171 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Sharks or on Twitter at Deep Dives Sharks. 172 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,800 Now going on to the shark of the episode, we've got our very 173 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,600 first fully extinct species as we've done the megalodon, which 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,040 some of you still believe is not extinct. 175 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,640 I'll debate you on that. How about that? 176 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,320 We can get we can debate on that if you want to. 177 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,400 But this episode we're going to be talking about the 178 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,480 Helicopreon. So this one was suggested by a 179 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,240 couple people. I was between this one and the 180 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Hidobus, which I apologize if I am mispronouncing either of 181 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,799 those sharks since they looked freaky. 182 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,000 This one was one of the last two episodes. 183 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Someone asked if they could cover the helicopterion and I 184 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,080 was really excited about because they look the freakier of the 185 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,720 two. But the helicopterion was around 186 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,920 for about 20 million years during the Cicerolean and the 187 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,440 Guadalupean stages, about 290,000,000 years to 270 million 188 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,960 years ago. Now. 189 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,040 I'm very sorry if I am mispronouncing these periods or 190 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,520 if I got them messed up. I'm a history nerd when it comes 191 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,720 to the modern era, but outside of that I am rather trash so 192 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,200 that is unfortunate. So if any historians are 193 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,760 listening I'd like to send my deepest apologies. 194 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,440 But they're mostly known for their tooth whirls or the 195 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,000 circular saw blade like teeth located on the front of their 196 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,640 lower jaw. Now it's hard to know exactly 197 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,440 what the Helicopreon looked like as cartilage tends to 198 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,800 disintegrate when the decay begins and these guys haven't 199 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,400 been hanging around the oceans for a few million years, so no 200 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,240 one has seen them. There have been a few instances 201 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,280 where a specimen has been preserved to a certain degree, 202 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,600 but we never had a complete one. We have been able to make some 203 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,960 guesses based on what fragments of the body we could piece 204 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,160 together and from artist renderings. 205 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,640 They appeared to be rather slender, similar to a Mako 206 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,680 shark, but their fins appeared to be even smaller than a Makos 207 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,720 would be. They would be about 16 to 26 208 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,520 feet long or five to 8 meters and had a poor Beagle shaped 209 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,040 face, so short chubby looking face with a sharp nose above the 210 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,600 tooth whirls and large eyes. Their girls sat just before 211 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,880 their pectoral fins with her dorsal fin placed opposite of 212 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,720 their bottom fins directly center of their backs. 213 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,880 Not like the center like lengthwise but like width wise. 214 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,240 So it was like above their fins dead center. 215 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,160 It's really hard to I I there's definitely better words to use 216 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,160 there but my brain cannot form them unfortunately. 217 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,000 But it is a rather evenly spaced shark which just scratches the 218 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,520 brain so nicely when you're looking at the the renditions of 219 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,080 it. Which could just be the artist 220 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,920 renditions trying to make it look pretty or that could be how 221 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,440 the shark really looked. I'm not sure. 222 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,880 Either way, it is believed that this shark was an open water 223 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,760 shark, similar to a miko, which would explain them sharing 224 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,720 similar body shapes. And these sharks would be found 225 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,040 all around the world, including Russia, China, WA, Japan, 226 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,840 Kazakhstan, Norway, Laos, Canada, Norway, Mexico, and the 227 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,480 US. Now over 50% of this shark's 228 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,120 fossils have been found in Idaho, with an additional 25% 229 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,640 being found in the Ural Mountains of Russia. 230 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Neither of those areas are very close to water, which may be 231 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,160 confusing for some, but the earth has shifted quite a lot 232 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,400 since it first existed to where it is now. 233 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,720 So it makes sense that these regions could have been 234 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,040 underwater millions of years ago, but now they're not. 235 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,880 The sharks didn't just go running around land, at least 236 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,000 not that we know of. Also the way the earth shifted. 237 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,640 That is why megalodons are Megalodon teeth are found a lot 238 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,400 in Central Florida, like the landlocked area, not like on the 239 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,960 beaches and of course on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, which 240 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,600 around the Salisbury area, that's where you'll find a lot 241 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,320 of megalodon teeth as well. Even though that is in between 242 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,120 the Chesapeake Bay and Ocean City. 243 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,320 It's not really it. It's not that close to water 244 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,880 like it. You can see how the land would 245 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,240 move, but it's not like you're a hop, skip and a jump from the 246 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,680 water. You still got to drive a little 247 00:11:56,680 --> 00:11:58,600 bit to get there. But I'm getting off track. 248 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,200 But I'm going to do my best to describe the tooth whirls. 249 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,080 I've mentioned them a few times but they are freaking cool 250 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,400 looking and they are kind of hard to describe so I'm going to 251 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,240 do my best. But as mentioned earlier, they 252 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,600 kind of look like a circular saw. 253 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,280 The spiral shape comes from a singular tooth root on the 254 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,960 world, and the larger teeth are going to be towards the outside 255 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,680 as the center is where the teeth start forming. 256 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Oldest teeth on the outside, newer teeth come from the 257 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,840 center. They can go to be about 3.9 258 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,960 inches or 10 centimeters when they are nearing the end of the 259 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,840 world. As the tooth gets older, it gets 260 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,720 pushed out towards the end of the world and it will lose the 261 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,400 crown, which we are used to seeing on other shark teeth. 262 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,080 The tooth rolls would fit inside the mouth easily without causing 263 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,760 injury. The roof of the mouth was a 264 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,000 little bit higher so it just fit nice Tuckley and tucked in there 265 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:48,880 nicely. There we go. 266 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,320 That's what I'm trying to say. And some of the earlier 267 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,160 reconstructions believe that the world went above the nose, which 268 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,360 looked rather silly, kind of like a gesture shoe, but for a 269 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,240 nose. So, you know, that little spiral 270 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,200 little shoe there? Yeah, that that was on top of 271 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,160 the nose. It looked rather rather wild. 272 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,160 There were multiple species of helicopterion that could be 273 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,200 identified by the distinction in their tooth whirls that is 274 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,840 believed by the scientists that have researched them. 275 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,320 And the closest living relative of this shark would be the 276 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,800 Shamaras or the ghost shark as some of us know them. 277 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,680 Which is rather neat, especially since the ghost shark isn't 278 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:23,760 known for having wild teeth. Although if I remember correctly 279 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,400 they do have small Trident shaped teeth but still not very 280 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,600 whirl like now due to the shark not being alive with humans, it 281 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,880 is unsure what they ate or how they haunted. 282 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,520 They can't really document any of that. 283 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,080 If our time didn't really overlap, or even if it did, it 284 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,560 was very very brief and we were not really studying the world 285 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:44,040 around us at that point too much. 286 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,160 But due to the shark not being alive with humans, it's also a 287 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,560 lot of speculation on how their abnormal jaw could have helped 288 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,240 while hunting. Whether it be to impale, reduce 289 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,680 friction while swimming, or if it was just for mating. 290 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,320 Simply there were a lot of different speculations on that 291 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,520 as well. I for one feel that they were 292 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,200 just ahead of the curve, possibly being the inspiration 293 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,120 for the Mohawk that many rock phenoms have supported during 294 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,320 their day. So got to give a nice little 295 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,840 shout out to them for that. Feel like it was a nice touch, 296 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,840 but what lovable little freaks these guys are and were and 297 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,720 possibly are hiding somewhere as someone's going to debate me on. 298 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,440 I know it. I feel like you name any extinct 299 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,040 species a shark and someone will immediately come at you with. 300 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,640 But what about the deep ocean? Not everything goes to the deep 301 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,360 ocean, my guys. It's OK. 302 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,680 But I will say that is one of my favorite things and it is 303 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,240 possible. Of course, I'm not going to rule 304 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,560 that out. I would just say that right now 305 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,840 scientists have not seen any evidence that they are still 306 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,600 around. Same with the megalodon. 307 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,520 But of course, those are the types of things that I am happy 308 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,520 to friendly debate with you all, not actually argument. 309 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,080 We we can discuss our points and go on our way. 310 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,760 So yes. But if you guys have any 311 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,240 questions, if you want to talk more about this, you can feel 312 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,680 free to do so over on the social medias as I listed earlier and I 313 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,920 will be more than happy to chat with you about those. 314 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,400 I also apologize if I don't get back to you in a timely matter. 315 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,280 I'm currently doing interviews for things and everything like 316 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,600 that. So life is still a little bit 317 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,320 busy, not quite as busy as it was. 318 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,360 So I am checking that a little bit more frequently, but going 319 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,720 on to our shark safety portion. Now, as I mentioned, we're going 320 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,280 to be talking about this density issue. 321 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,880 So I simply titled this staying safe with the density issue and 322 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,520 this one I got from CBS42 Shark Con and of course, taking from a 323 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,160 couple different previous segments as well. 324 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,680 But as previously mentioned, sharks are not biting humans 325 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,040 more than they typically do. So this is not to create panic, 326 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,720 but there are situations that lead to the density issues or 327 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,320 more sharks and humans occupying the same area. 328 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,000 And today I'm going to discuss some of those situations. 329 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Now the biggest one of course is migration. 330 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,160 Now this can happen for a lot of reasons. 331 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,880 For one, weather changes and time of year changes. 332 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,680 So sharks aren't going to be densely populated in Canada 333 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,200 during the winter as they like warmer waters. 334 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,240 Now warmer waters doesn't mean they're thriving in the warming 335 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,120 oceans as they're areas that they still get uncomfortably 336 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,280 warm for them as well. It's pretty consistently in the 337 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,680 mid 90s here in Central Florida throughout July and August, even 338 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,160 going into September a bit and June as well. 339 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,520 It kind of just most of the year it's it's warm as all get out 340 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,000 here, but a lot of people don't like leaving the house. 341 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,880 So it's tends to be slow season for a lot of businesses because 342 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,880 of the oppressive heat. And similarly, sharks don't like 343 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,880 water that is too hot or too cold. 344 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Juvenile great whites around California have moved further 345 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,000 South into Mexico waters if it gets to be too warm and vice 346 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,480 versa. So sharks will move into Maine, 347 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,720 Washington and Canada during the spring as the waters warm up a 348 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,800 bit and go up the coast of America when it's getting closer 349 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,440 to summer. And then we'll head back towards 350 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,120 the Gulf of Mexico, Florida Peninsula, Southern California, 351 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Baja California and Mexico during the winter months as 352 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,760 those waters tend to be warmer there. 353 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,160 When sharks are migrating, some species will travel close to the 354 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,360 shore in large numbers, which is why we can often see news 355 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,560 stories of massive shark migrations in the spring, 356 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,400 recommending caution when going to the beach because these 357 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,960 groups can be in the hundreds if moving together. 358 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:15,520 Sharks will also quickly migrate away from an area if there are 359 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,079 certain weather events coming to an area. 360 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,119 One big factor are hurricanes here in America and Mexico and 361 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,000 typhoons over in Asia. With this, sharks can sense 362 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,720 pressure changes and water temperature change that can 363 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,600 cause these storms to get very powerful, such as the case of 364 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,440 barrel coming through in July. The Gulf is typically warmer 365 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,680 than the ocean about when the waters get uncharacteristically 366 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,760 warm. It can cause storms to go from a 367 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,040 category one to a category three and what seems like ours, which 368 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,400 is of course an exaggeration. It does tend to take days, but 369 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Even so, that is still a rapid change. 370 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,520 So these storms can get very powerful very quick. 371 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,160 And some storms won't become hurricanes, but still will 372 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,640 create enough of a pressure change that these sharks will 373 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,000 still move out of the area. Now, they don't tend to do this 374 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,960 with thunderstorms, especially in Florida where it seems like 375 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,480 this time of year you get an afternoon thunderstorm no matter 376 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,680 what. So it's going to be one of those 377 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,960 things that sharks don't tend to move out of the way of 378 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,520 thunderstorms, but these big storms that are causing a little 379 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,880 bit more ruckus, they'll tend to move for. 380 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:17,000 Often sharks can sense these changes and will move to safety 381 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,360 either around the coast of Florida or in some cases just 382 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:21,840 move to another area of the Gulf if possible. 383 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,120 This creates more food competition, which can drive 384 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:28,240 sharks closer to shore, which is often how people tend to hang 385 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,920 out there. And this is when bites tend to 386 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,640 happen more because people tend to hang out in Florida around 387 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,720 hurricane season as many Americans are on vacation around 388 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,920 spring break or the summertime as well. 389 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,080 So, as Jackson Hooton put it, we have more people in the area and 390 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,000 more sharks driven to the same area, hence the density issue. 391 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,200 Another cause is simply the pressure systems that can move 392 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,400 through. Later in July, a high pressure 393 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,200 system decided to plop itself right over the Gulf, which 394 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,880 caused storms to not form but still drove some sharks out of 395 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,480 the area as it threw something off inside of them, kind of made 396 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,320 them feel a little uncomfy. I can tell myself when pressure 397 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,040 systems are moving through the area as I tend to get headaches 398 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,960 for a few days, but they bounce out once it moves through. 399 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,800 So I'm connected to sharks just because I'm cool like that. 400 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,520 But you know, it's fine, just be jealous, it's all right. 401 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,400 But now you only bring that up because it's an example of how 402 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,720 that can affect sharks in a similar way that it can affect 403 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,320 us. I know I've got a couple friends 404 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,360 that also get headaches when weird pressure things are going 405 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,600 on, so sharks can have similar experiences. 406 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,600 I don't know if they get headaches, but they can at least 407 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,400 feel uncomfy in that moment. Now as mentioned in a previous 408 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,600 episode, climate change continues. 409 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,160 Sharks are being driven closer to shore, following food and 410 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,840 cooler waters, which puts them closer to humans as well. 411 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,640 So many reasons why they could be moving to other areas, but 412 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,680 the main question is what can we do about it to not get bit or at 413 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,560 least create safe waters for sharks? 414 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,840 So to keep yourself safe swimming groups or be in the 415 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,920 water with friends rather than by yourself, keep an eye out 416 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,240 when you're in the water. So just do a quick scan every 417 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,680 now and then. You don't have to do it every 10 418 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,560 seconds, anything like that. The sharks aren't creeping in to 419 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,440 try to come get you. They're just simply hanging out. 420 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,840 They might be trying to figure out what you are. 421 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,720 And if you see them getting a little too close, just keep that 422 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,760 eye contact, stare them down. You know they're going to be 423 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,000 like, oh, I don't know what they're going to do. 424 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,280 But I can tell you how many times I'm hanging out in 425 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Clearwater Beach just looking around and suddenly there's a 426 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,600 fish trying to figure out what I'm doing in their neighborhood. 427 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,040 You don't want to hang out in a school of fish. 428 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Sharks may come try to eat them and grab you as well 429 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,520 unintentionally. I usually just move to the side 430 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,640 a bit, gets me out of the middle of the school of them and 431 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,040 they're likely to run elsewhere rather than into me. 432 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,080 If a shark does show up. They also tend to not like if 433 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,360 you move too much. So if you're having 434 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:39,240 conversations, if you're moving around, the fish tend not to 435 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,360 swarm around you anyway. It's kind of when you're just 436 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,760 hanging out and being real still kind of having that nice 437 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,480 relaxing moment is when the fish tend to show up. 438 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,360 So all you have to do is really just scoot to the side a little 439 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,640 bit and they're like, oh God, it moves and they swim away. 440 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,880 But you want to keep an eye on weather events as well and when 441 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,800 standard shark migration may be occurring, if you see a density 442 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,840 issue maybe occurring where you are or where you're heading. 443 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,680 So just kind of keep an eye out on that. 444 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,120 If you feel like there might be sharks in the area. 445 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:06,800 You can also always talk to lifeguards, do some research, 446 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,720 anything like that. I wouldn't only rely on this 447 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,280 podcast because I am not as up to date as I should be. 448 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,040 Clearly I was, excuse me, I was gone for like 3 months. 449 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:23,000 So that's good. But also don't do things that 450 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,600 will attract sharks to you, such as feeding fish in the water, 451 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,760 wearing shiny jewelry that mimics fish scales, or thrashing 452 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,960 around if you've seen something move, as thrashing can mimic an 453 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,800 injured fish, meaning an easy target. 454 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,000 As to how to help sharks. Simple things in our daily lives 455 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,280 such as recycling when available, finding out where 456 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,240 your food comes from and if it's sustainably sourced, and 457 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,040 supporting companies that aim to help the environment in their 458 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,880 practices rather than those looking to maximize profit. 459 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,320 We can't wave a magic wand and solve climate change, sadly. 460 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,880 But if we do what we can, it will make enough of a 461 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,040 difference, even if it feels insurmountable. 462 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,160 Just do what you can and you'll be doing enough. 463 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,080 But that is what I have for the safety portion of the episode 464 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,800 here. Of course. 465 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,600 If you have any questions or want more details, anything like 466 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,760 that, feel free to reach out on social media once again. 467 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,920 Which this now brings us to our lovely part of Shark News. 468 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,160 Now this week I have a couple stories. 469 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,120 The first one comes from deadly upwellings of cold water pose 470 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:26,040 threat to migratory sharks and that is from newscientist.com. 471 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,240 So in 2021 hundreds of marine animals washed up on the shore 472 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,560 of South Africa due to upwelling cold currents that would shock 473 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,280 their system causing them to die. 474 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,240 As water warms, sea creatures try to swim away from it, but 475 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,320 when they are met with a wall of water that is 18°F or 10° 476 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,640 colder, it's, it's too intense of a change for many creatures. 477 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,760 It can shock them and it gets really, it's too much. 478 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,480 It's very uncomfortable when the air temperature changes 10°F 479 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,680 around here, or at least it's very noticeable. 480 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Australia has had similar problems because of currents and 481 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,560 wind patterns which can move cold water upwelling 482 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,360 substantially through the water column. 483 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,280 I am stumbling over words, my goodness substantially through 484 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,000 the water column. Researchers are looking into 485 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,600 ways to combat this effect, but are looking at other areas where 486 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,920 seasonal upwellings occur. They were looking to see if 487 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,480 there are risks as well, but so far I've concluded that they're 488 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,240 not as much of an issue as These are seasonal rather than 489 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,360 triggered by weather events. So the Gulf of Mexico, which has 490 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:33,280 the upwellings due to the valley that we have there, I, I'm 491 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,760 forgetting the word for it, but they have that upwelling that 492 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,720 happens in the spring that brings whale sharks further 493 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,640 north. They've not been affected 494 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,960 drastically, at least so far. So thankfully on this front, we 495 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,880 don't have too, too much to worry about. 496 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,440 Now, the next one that I have comes from Orlando. 497 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,640 It's SeaWorld Shark Experience, not so ultimate for abused 498 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,200 sharks. And this is by PETA, so I'm 499 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,800 already conflicted with the source for reasons summarize the 500 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,760 article. Pita is upset with SeaWorld 501 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,680 which has had a slew of incidents in the past and here 502 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,920 they are targeting the Shark Experience ticket that was 503 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,080 available back in July. Now to start off, they call 504 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,440 aquariums animal prisons in the name of conservation, which I 505 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,000 disagree with. They go on to say that touch 506 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,240 tanks and tanks in general are not enough as sharks migrate and 507 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,720 can travel 45 miles daily. Now looking at that statement 508 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,000 alone, sharks do like the move. The whale sharks in the Georgia 509 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,720 aquarium are used to moving miles throughout the day, and 510 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,360 their tank isn't miles long. But when you go there, they're 511 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,000 swimming comfortably, not slimming into walls or each 512 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,720 other or trying to get out of the tank. 513 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,000 They just seem to be chilling. It's more about the movement in 514 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,880 my opinion rather than the destination. 515 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,120 Now I could be wrong, like I said, I'm not a shark expert per 516 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:50,600 SE. But I will say that I have spin 517 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,360 to that aquarium multiple times and every time I've seen the 518 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:56,920 whale shark bump into the manta ray, that's the worst I've seen 519 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,040 happen. They tend to just kind of swim 520 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560 around and hang out and they do not seem abused, upset. 521 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,880 They seem very happy when it's food time it they seem like 522 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,520 they're doing normal shark things. 523 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,920 That article goes on to call for a boycott to animal prisons, 524 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,560 quote UN quote as they do nothing but ensure profits blah 525 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,880 blah blah. I got really annoyed from the 526 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,280 start of this article because I am very pro ASPCA and animal 527 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,480 rights groups such as the ACA that monitors zoos and aquariums 528 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,960 that aims to help protect animals. 529 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,440 PETA wants all these animals be freed back into the oceans which 530 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,720 sounds wonderful except they mostly can't hunt. 531 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,880 Even in the case where orcas were released to a sanctuary and 532 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,880 monitored, they still died because they couldn't find their 533 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,880 own food or care for themselves. Now yes, that is because they 534 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,840 were in captivity, which isn't fantastic, but I can say for 535 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,560 myself, being face to face with a shark, a giraffe, lion, puffin 536 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,320 gorilla, okapi, puffer fish, sloth, list goes on and on. 537 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,400 It hits so much harder than seeing it on a book or on TV. 538 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,080 People get excited when they go to the zoo or aquarium because 539 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,200 they get to see animals that they've seen on TV and that is 540 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,680 just such a cool experience. Now going to the Baltimore 541 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,480 aquarium as a child seeing sharks got me excited. 542 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,760 I remember rushing through the aquarium to get to the shark 543 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,000 section just to see them. So I the idea that aquariums and 544 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,000 zoos do nothing is insane to me and I cannot disagree more. 545 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,160 Peta's also had an incredibly shady past that I'm not going to 546 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,480 get into, but I do not like the organization as I feel their 547 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,680 practices are extreme and they've done things without 548 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,320 thinking which has hurt more animals and instances where they 549 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,440 would have been better off if they did not intervene. 550 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840 This article was designed to cause outrage and call for 551 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,520 drastic change without any support for the animals it will 552 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,680 affect. Now SeaWorld is Aza credited and 553 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,560 has changed many practices that upset people previously. 554 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,640 I have not been there as I'm still very conflicted about 555 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,960 going. Of course keeping orcas is not 556 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760 fantastic, but they can't just release them and at the same 557 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,960 time the place looks so cool and I want to go. 558 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,680 So I need to do more research to see if I will go there. 559 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,560 The Aza also recently shut down I believe was the Miami Zoo 560 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,720 Aquarium. I need to look into that a 561 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,200 little bit more to make sure I am claiming the right thing. 562 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,680 But there's a highly problematic area. 563 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,880 I guess it was an animal exhibit type deal over Miami and the Aza 564 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,160 stepped in and shut it down. So they do things to protect 565 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,360 animals and they would not work with SeaWorld or give them 566 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:24,720 accreditation and they'd be actively trying to shut them 567 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,960 down if SeaWorld was abusing their animals. 568 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,320 So to quote Forrest Gump, that's all I have to say about that. 569 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,200 But of course, you're more than welcome to support any 570 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,000 organization that you feel is doing a mission that you feel is 571 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,160 the right fight. And that goes for anything. 572 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,360 I'm not here to sway you politically sway you in support 573 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:47,640 or not support of an organization or anything like 574 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,520 that. I do not want this to be a a hit 575 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,760 call, of course, or anything like that or a boycott on them. 576 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,640 I just personally do not like them as I feel like some of the 577 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760 things that I've heard and some of the things I've looked into, 578 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,680 I just don't feel they've done a good job about it. 579 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,240 But that is all that I have for that. 580 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,520 Of course, feel free to let me know how you feel about that as 581 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,240 well. And that's what I have for the 582 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,320 episode. So I want to thank you all for 583 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,520 listening. Once again, thank you for 584 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,960 getting us to 100 countries. That is incredible. 585 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Shark Week versus Shark Fest should be coming next week once 586 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,640 I get that script finished, and then we'll do another movie 587 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,800 synopsis, analysis, whatever it was. 588 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,600 That one will be coming hopefully the week after. 589 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,560 And then we shall get back to our regularly scheduled 590 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,480 programming. But of course, follow along on 591 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,360 the Instagram at Deep Dives with Sharks or on Twitter at Deep 592 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,600 Dive Sharks. I run different polls, things 593 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,120 like that. Send any questions, comments, 594 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,600 concerns, anything like that. And of course, give us a rating 595 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800 on Spotify, Apple, anywhere you're listening really, if it 596 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,440 has a rating system or comments, please let me know how you're 597 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,040 feeling. I would love to hear about it. 598 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920 Ratings are super helpful as they can make the podcast show 599 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,600 up higher on Google results and make it even easier for people 600 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,720 to find us. But you all take care. 601 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,880 I am very happy to be back an I will see you in the next one.