1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,240 Hello and welcome back Shark. Here is to another episode of 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,360 Deep Dives with Sharks. I'm the host here. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,200 My name is Alex and I sometimes know how to put these episodes 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,800 out and sometimes I don't apparently. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,040 So that's going well but I did miss you guys. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,160 I was currently not currently I was driving across the country 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,920 along with goalie as we were moving from Florida to 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,640 California as I have not stopped talking about but that is 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,160 currently done. So we are officially in 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,800 California which is very nice. And I did ask on Instagram 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,680 shortly before leaving if anyone want and kind of ask me anything 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,760 type episode. So I did get some replies, some 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,880 questions and I'm going to be going over them today. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,880 So this episode is kind of just a lot of blabbering kind of a 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,880 lot about me and sharks. It is a lot shark related. 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,720 I don't think there's really anything that's not shark 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,680 related in the questions. There might be one or two 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,160 things, but other than that, for the most part it is still very 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,920 sharky. So I figured I could count it. 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,680 And also I will be trying to stream probably tomorrow because 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,160 I have some free time, but we'll stream sometime this week. 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,040 If you guys want to pop in, say hi, hang out, anything of that 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,600 nature, and then I'll try to get back to being in some sort of a, 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,480 I guess routine. That makes sense. 25 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,280 So yeah, hopefully there should be weekly streams again and then 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,720 hopefully getting episodes out in a timely manner. 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Right now it is still going to be a little hectic as we are in 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,960 the unpacking process and also I am working on our boarding stuff 29 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:28,400 for my job. So there is a little bit here 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,240 and there, but for the most part we should be smooth sailing. 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Hopefully we'll see time will tell, but of course you guys can 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,760 keep up to date with everything by following along on the social 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,440 medias at deep dives with sharks. 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,680 That's for everything that is Instagram, that is the twitch, 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,680 that is the YouTube everything there. 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,640 I also have the tab link that I throw in the descriptions of 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,160 these episodes and also should be in the description of the 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,240 show in general so you can always click there to find more. 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 We also do have a discord server so if you guys want to join 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,120 that, there should be an invite link on that as well. 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Please do let me know if it has stopped working again because I 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,720 am not very good with keeping up with all of that as well. 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,880 So I do appreciate those of you that have reached out to let me 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,640 know when things aren't working. But of course, follow along, ask 45 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:17,560 any questions there and we'll jump right into it. 46 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,320 So the first question I got was actually from one of my old 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,720 teammates. They asked me if I played rugby 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,600 because of the team name. So in college, for those of you 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,600 that do not know, I played rugby and was a back three, which 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,960 means I played winger, fullback. I was OK, we'll go with that. 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,440 But the team name was the Sharks, and I really didn't not 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,680 know that when I joined the team. 53 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,960 I just lived with two guys that played rugby and they kind of 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,360 told me that they were going to force me to do that because the 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,640 club soccer team was getting started and they hadn't reached 56 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:48,640 out to me in a while. So I was like, OK, cool. 57 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:50,920 So I just went into rugby and they were the Sharks and it 58 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:52,720 worked great. So it's kind of fun. 59 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:55,480 I did like the mascot. We had a wooden shark whose name 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,840 was Woody. He was great. 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,240 Miss him dearly. Also our coaches got inducted 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,200 into our school Hall of Fame so Congrats to him as well. 63 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Although I don't think he listens at all but my goodness. 64 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Now next question I got though is least favorite shark. 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Now that one was interesting because I of course love all the 66 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,840 sharks. That's why I did a podcast about 67 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,920 them. I find any shark really 68 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:21,000 interesting. So I do want to say that I do 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,360 sort of have a least favorite shark, but I do enjoy seeing 70 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,440 them no matter what and I will have an explanation. 71 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,960 It is the sand tiger shark. I almost said nurse. 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,000 I do like nurse sharks a lot, but it's a sand tiger shark and 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,000 it is simply because all the aquariums that I went to growing 74 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,040 up, it's one of the most abundant sharks in captivity. 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,960 You just kind of see them everywhere, at least between the 76 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,400 Baltimore Aquarium, the Tampa or the Florida Aquarium in Tampa. 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,360 I believe the New Jersey Aquarium had it, Adventure 78 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Aquarium. So there's just like all the 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,400 aquariums I've been to. I think I'm trying to remember. 80 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Virginia Beach had one. I can't remember. 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,480 I've only been there once, but all of them, they, the most of 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,880 them I'll say, had sand tiger shark. 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,320 So it's kind of one of those where I've seen them. 84 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,360 It's like I do still love them, but it is one that I've just 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,800 seen a lot and I don't get bored seeing them because of course, 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,600 every shark has a different personality. 87 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:22,560 But it is kind of one of those moments where I feel like if you 88 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,400 were to have me put the if you put all the sand tiger sharks 89 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,760 together in one tank and had me separate which one goes to 90 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Tampa, which one goes to Baltimore, which one goes to New 91 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,720 Jersey, so on and so forth, I'd get it wrong. 92 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:37,760 I don't think I could differentiate them that much. 93 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Meanwhile, other sharks, I probably could pick those out 94 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,320 maybe a little bit better. But yeah, it's just kind of the 95 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,960 sand tiger. I've seen them a lot, but I do 96 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,480 enjoy seeing them when I go to aquariums and I'm disappointed 97 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,960 if they're not there. So that's what I like. 98 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Now another question I got. Is there anything cool about the 99 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,040 anatomy of sharks? I feel like there's a million 100 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,080 things that are cool about the anatomy of sharks. 101 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,040 For one, they're pretty much all made-up of cartilage, which is 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,280 just kind of crazy, which cartilage is what your ears are 103 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:05,440 made out of and a lot of your nose. 104 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,120 So it's kind of neat that that's what the sharks made out of and 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,360 they can still have different things go on with them. 106 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Like whoa be gongs can have scoliosis, which is just kind of 107 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,240 a wild thing. I never thought that a shark 108 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,080 could have anything like that, especially because you just 109 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,520 don't really associate things like that with sharks or other 110 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,600 animals. But it kind of also depends on 111 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,000 the shark. Like when it comes to leopard 112 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,560 sharks, is it leopard lemon sharks? 113 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,600 Sorry, lemon sharks have that that spearical behind their eye 114 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,480 that help them to breathe more Whoa be gongs. 115 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,240 They're tassels that flow in the currents that way they mimic 116 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,720 corals and and fish feel safer and the fact that goblin sharks 117 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,440 can lunge their jaws out and epaulette sharks are able to to 118 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,360 crawl on land. The list keeps going on the fact 119 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,240 that whale sharks are carpet sharks, even though you don't 120 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,440 see them really at the bottom of the ocean, or at least no one 121 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,560 has seen them at the bottom of the ocean at this point. 122 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,560 It's just kind of those sorts of things are are absolutely crazy 123 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,960 to me and it's really cool. Just kind of think about because 124 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,280 it's every shark is kind of the same at its base. 125 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:11,800 You know, it's got some fins, it's got the distinct dorsal 126 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,520 fin, it's got the the body shapes that are somewhat similar 127 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,800 to their their features, whether they're carpet shark or requiem 128 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,080 shark, anything like that. Or I guess just say the family 129 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,600 of shark that they're in. But they're not really. 130 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,360 It's just very different per shark. 131 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Because I mean, the fact that goblin sharks as well, when we 132 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,720 see them up at the surface where like these guys are really 133 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,480 wrinkly and and weird and then you realize when they're down, 134 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,560 the pressure is different. So they're actually rather round 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,440 shaped. They're they're boldest you can 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,600 say, but it's just really cool how the different sharks all 137 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,880 have different anatomies and different features. 138 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,080 And that goes really any sea creature too. 139 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,200 I mean, I'm just, I think the anatomy of all sea creatures is 140 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,080 incredible. The fact that cuttlefish have a 141 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,400 bone that is essentially their entire body. 142 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,520 Octopi have three hearts and one stops beating while they're 143 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,440 swimming. I could go the fact that octopi 144 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,280 have a beak. That's crazy, but I could 145 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:04,320 honestly just keep going on and on and on about how cool sharks 146 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,840 are forever. But I that's kind of why I also 147 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:10,400 started this podcast is to kind of highlight some of the things 148 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,760 that are neat about sharks because that's a lot of the 149 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,360 times what I like to tell people is a cool anatomy factor, how 150 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,760 the shark got their name. I like how I said I can keep 151 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,480 going on and on and I still am. I think it's really cool that 152 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,040 cookie cutter sharks have that darker band around their neck to 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,880 try to lure in prey. The fact that there are sharks 154 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,240 that are bioluminescent, so they glow against the surface. 155 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,120 There's a Lantern shark recently when we were going into a 156 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Bucky's goalie comes over and goes, look what I found. 157 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,280 And it was an ultimate field guide for sharks. 158 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,520 And it was, of course, I bought it in a heartbeat, which was 159 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,000 funny because she said she was supposed to buy it for me and 160 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,480 then got distracted because it's Bucky's and who does not get 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,880 distracted and Bucky's. But it just even flipping 162 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,200 through, there were so many things that I didn't know about 163 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,160 sharks that I learned in that moment. 164 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,520 And one's got, I forget what it's called. 165 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,800 It's like I think some sort of Lantern shark, I can't remember 166 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 exactly, but essentially it secrets something that just has 167 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,320 bioluminescence. So it glows behind it almost 168 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,880 like it has just a trail of sparkles, which is just really, 169 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,520 really cool to see. So that was that's probably one 170 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,360 of the neat things to to learn. And I say that every there's 171 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,400 everything cool about the anatomy of sharks. 172 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,800 I definitely recommend if there's ones that you want to 173 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,720 learn more about or if there's, if you ever have a question of 174 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,320 like, is there any shark that does this? 175 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,800 I mean, definitely looking into that because I can almost 176 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,960 guarantee that there's a shark that probably has some that it 177 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,440 might be extinct, but you could probably Google, does a shark 178 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,679 have this or this feature that feature. 179 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,000 And at some point in history, a shark did have that, which is 180 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,400 rather cool. So there's many, many things 181 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,280 that are cool about the anatomy of sharks. 182 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,600 And now this one, I think is a very deep question, very driven 183 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,200 question, which I love. And they asked, what would you 184 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,480 say to a young teen who wants to find a career in shark research? 185 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,360 So for one, I'd say that's a great question because that is a 186 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,680 question that I myself had when I was younger and never really 187 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:06,840 found an answer until I guess now. 188 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,160 Because I mean, this is I don't even know if this counts as 189 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,320 shark researcher, if I'm just a dork with a mic that likes 190 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,840 looking into sharks and relaying that information to share that 191 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,120 with other people. But one thing that I've noticed 192 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,920 just from working in my own field and being able to get 193 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,600 further into social work and things like that was to reach 194 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,080 out, ask questions to people that are in the field. 195 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,760 One thing I can say is when I went to Shark Khan, Doctor Mike 196 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,320 Heidhouse and Yannis Papa stomach to you, both of them 197 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,120 were like, Oh yeah, no, like reach out to the people you see 198 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,360 on shark week or shark fest, which shark week is July 20th by 199 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,480 the way. I don't know if they announce 200 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,880 Shark fest yet. I'm waiting on it. 201 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,960 I will let you know. But but when it comes to it, 202 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,800 definitely reaching out if you have questions about sharks, if 203 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,160 you have questions about things you saw, if you want more 204 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,400 explanations and trying to get as involved as you can, whether 205 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,720 that be with organizations that help sharks themselves or if 206 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,960 that be in a capacity of volunteering with an an 207 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,080 aquarium. And it might not even fully be 208 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,760 in the shark field. You might be volunteering with 209 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,040 an aquarium and unfortunately all you're doing is kind of just 210 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,880 going to to different schools and helping to hand out 211 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,200 information or things like that. But getting involved is a great 212 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,800 way to dip your toe in and see, is this something that I 213 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,240 actually think I want to have a career in? 214 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Because that is also a big decision and I will not 215 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:26,920 discourage anyone from trying any sort of career, career 216 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,800 field. There we go. 217 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,720 That was a tough phrase, but any sort of career field because 218 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,360 there's many things that people don't know what they'll end up 219 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,720 loving. So I always say just go out and 220 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,280 try it. I talk to people that are in 221 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,880 positions that you would love to have. 222 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,640 One thing I did, I mean, I sometimes it doesn't work out 223 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,400 though, because I know that the last episode was an open love 224 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,240 letter to the Baltimore Aquarium. 225 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,280 But I got, I got a couple bones to stick with them because I 226 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,160 applied there when I was looking when I got into grad school or 227 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,200 was looking to get into grad school and wanted a job that'd 228 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,320 be easier than the 1 I had at the time. 229 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,680 And I was even going to like willing to work in their gift 230 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:03,400 shop. And they said no, like, OK, 231 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,760 great. So they didn't want that. 232 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:08,160 I applied to be on their customer service team. 233 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,880 They said no to that as well. So there were many times that I 234 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,920 was told no by the Baltimore Aquarium. 235 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,280 And that's not me having beef with them. 236 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,680 That's just a matter of fact. And I tried reaching out for 237 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:22,280 volunteer opportunities and they were full up on volunteers at 238 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,000 that time as well. So sometimes it doesn't work 239 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,600 out, but don't really take no for an answer. 240 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,440 And I'm not saying go harass them or any organization you're 241 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,760 trying to work for. But one thing I will say, I 242 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,360 mean, I even reached out to the aquarium to see if any of their 243 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,920 shark team would want to be interviewed for the podcast and 244 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,400 they didn't reply. Well, they said they'd ask and I 245 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,360 never heard back. So we'll ask again. 246 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,600 But The thing is, for me, that was just kind of a sign. 247 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Like, OK, maybe this isn't something I should pursue 248 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,040 further with them because that's just not the the door seems to 249 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,800 be shutting and let's go look elsewhere. 250 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,960 And things happen for reasons we ended up where we ended up. 251 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,560 But I will say definitely reach out to those that are in the 252 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:01,360 positions that you would want to have and ask them what they did 253 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,120 because like I said, I am not working in the shark field. 254 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,160 I just do a podcast that talks about sharks and I get a lot of 255 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,960 my information from the Internet, as well as trying to 256 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,040 talk to shark experts and asking them questions and then relaying 257 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,720 that information. So a lot of it comes from them 258 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,000 and I'm just putting it in ways that make sense. 259 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,920 So definitely reach out to them. If you have a favorite shark 260 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,960 expert, even if it's a videographer or someone like 261 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,840 that, don't be afraid to reach out to him. 262 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,200 I mean, the worst thing that happens is they either don't 263 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,520 answer or they they tell you're doing something wrong. 264 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,600 But even that can be beneficial in the sense of letting you 265 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,520 know, hey, I'm going about this the wrong way and I need to 266 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,600 change course. So don't take that rejection as 267 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,760 a no or as it should never happen, or as you're doing 268 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,640 something wrong and you're a bad person because that's not the 269 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,440 case. It's very much just always 270 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,280 learning, always trying to find more ways to work with sharks 271 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,640 and also finding ways to get into that field, which I hope 272 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,800 that made sense. But no, in my case, I had to 273 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,280 have multiple internships for my schooling. 274 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,560 And there were a couple different paths that I was 275 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:10,280 considering at the time, which was counseling and Hospice work. 276 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,360 And I kind of ended up falling into Hospice thinking I want to 277 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,720 do counseling more. But I very much have loved the 278 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,360 work working in Hospice and have kind of just kept doing it since 279 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,920 then. So it's worked great. 280 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,160 And sometimes we kind of just fall into things like you may 281 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,960 get out there and, and want to keep working with sharks. 282 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,400 One thing that I will say that I learned a while at shark Con is 283 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,240 that there's not really a true shark only scientist. 284 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,080 So you would still have to do more marine biology work, but 285 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,080 definitely having things that kind of work. 286 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,160 I mean, I've had shark here as ask about being a sharkologist 287 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,320 and things like that, which would be incredible, which I 288 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,640 don't really think there's exactly a field at this time, 289 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,320 but I haven't looked completely into it. 290 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,840 So it's definitely possible. And I think that just dipping 291 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,280 your toe in the water, trying to reach out to people, asking 292 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,880 questions at aquariums or with organizations that work with 293 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,840 sharks and even work like talking to those that you're not 294 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,520 too fond of as well, figuring out, oh, well, how did people 295 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,720 end up here? So I don't exactly do that 296 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,520 because even sometimes learning what not to do is just as 297 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,040 helpful as learning what to do. But yeah, I will say don't close 298 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,360 any doors, burn any bridges, anything like that. 299 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,840 Just always keep searching and keep trying to reach out to 300 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,120 people and figure out what there is to do. 301 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Yeah. And also let me know how it goes 302 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,320 because I'm very curious because I'd very much love to, to figure 303 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,080 that one out to be really cool. But I do also encourage everyone 304 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,800 to to pursue whatever career you think you would like to do. 305 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,800 And that really goes for anything because I mean, this 306 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,000 right here, I mean, this isn't a career at this point. 307 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,960 But if podcasting suddenly became it where I'm just talking 308 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,760 about sharks, that'd be awesome. I'd love that to happen. 309 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,760 But is, is that the case now? No, I'm having fun just talking 310 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,920 about sharks. That's what I'm gonna keep 311 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,440 doing. But yeah, it's kind of figuring 312 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,920 out what you like to do and if you can find ways to make it a 313 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,360 career. Absolutely. 314 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,400 So then the next question I got is what's your favorite hunting 315 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,440 slash killing ability of sharks? Now this one's tough because I 316 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,800 have so many. One of my favorites I think of 317 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,920 course, is the epaulette shark. The fact that they can crawl 318 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,880 from 1 puddle to the other, especially along like the Great 319 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,280 Barrier Reef, and the fact that if they get cut from the water, 320 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,480 they can simply kind of just sit there and and I guess shut down 321 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,120 their organs slowly one by one to make sure that they can get 322 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,600 oxygen where they need it to be. But yeah, that's one of my 323 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,160 favorites for sure. I also think the fact that 324 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,640 spinner sharks decided they just got are going to make themselves 325 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,600 a little tornado, so they'll start spinning while they're in 326 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,440 the water as they're breaching or coming up for a breach, I'll 327 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,240 say. So then that way when they hit 328 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,440 the air, they're already spinning. 329 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,920 That's just kind of funny because of course, like that I 330 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,240 guess helps to also disorient their prey because, I mean, 331 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,480 something's coming at you and it's spinning. 332 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,720 You have no idea which way it's going to go. 333 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,760 So at that point you really can't get away. 334 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,960 You can try one way, but they're already spinning so they can 335 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,160 adjust. So you're kind of in trouble 336 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,040 that way. I will say the goblin shark 337 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,920 being able to lunge its jaws out, that one's just nuts 338 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,520 because that there of course, like where in nature do you see 339 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,960 that besides in a goblin shark? Like suddenly it's it's jaws 3 340 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,920 inches further away than it was before. 341 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,040 That's just, that's hacks, that's cheating. 342 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Are you kidding me? Then you also have the the 343 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,480 Wobegongs. Those are insane too. 344 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,240 I bring them up a bunch. Especially just having that 345 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,360 adaption of having the tassels that mimic the coral so they can 346 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,080 just sit there for hours and just have to breathe, which is 347 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,320 kind of like their only movement. 348 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,160 And then we'll sit there and wait for fish to to hang around 349 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,520 them. And then they just snatch 1 so 350 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,800 fast that the others can't even see what happened. 351 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,360 And they're something like, well, where'd Bob go? 352 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,680 He was just here. But yeah, suddenly. 353 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,440 And then they have fangs to hold on to him. 354 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,840 So if they have a meal and they're not hungry, but they're 355 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,560 going to have some later, they can just keep doing that. 356 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,160 That's just, it's so wild. There's so many. 357 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,600 The fact that reef sharks all team up together, not all of 358 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,360 them, but a lot of species will team up together to help hunt 359 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,840 us. That way everyone get some food. 360 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,520 That's crazy cool to me as well. And it's just, it's so wild. 361 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,640 That's definitely one of my a lot of my favorites. 362 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,960 I like how to what's your favorite? 363 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,920 I can't pick one. There's so many. 364 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,720 And of course, when it comes to the, I mean, this is all the non 365 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,240 filter feeders, but the for the filter feeders like basking 366 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,480 sharks and whale sharks, I mean, the fact that they can do active 367 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,680 or passive ventilation to help eat their food. 368 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,040 The fact that whale sharks can suck water in and create 369 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,200 essentially a funnel in a vacuum that just traps up all that 370 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,800 krill on top of having their 300 rows of teeth that kind of just 371 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,120 help the to filter out some of the stuff. 372 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,640 But their gills are also made to help filter all that out. 373 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,720 So they can push the water out but keep the food in. 374 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,880 That's just crazy number of course, when it comes to basking 375 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,520 sharks, having that massive muppet shaped mouth, that muppet 376 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,280 face they have where they just it's just huge. 377 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:53,880 It's giant circle coming at you. It's crazy and the fact that 378 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,240 they can't eat us either because their throats are so small. 379 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,720 So the most they do is be like, dear God, what is this thing in 380 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,640 my mouth get out, but they they wouldn't really bite you or 381 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,560 anything because they they can't there's not really teeth that do 382 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,960 anything from what researchers have found so far. 383 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,640 I mean, they found tiny ones, but they don't really seem to 384 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,840 make a difference one way or another. 385 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,520 So there's just so many different things when it comes 386 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,160 to hunting slash killing abilities for sharks. 387 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,960 I will say the neat thing though, one that's really 388 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,000 overlooked and I think people often are like, yeah, you seen 389 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,200 it. But when great whites are able 390 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,800 to like the fact that their teeth are all made for cutting 391 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,000 and ripping, similar to other sharks, how Makos have smaller 392 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,440 teeth, which is better for like speed based, like grabbing and 393 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,280 poking and treading stuff like that. 394 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,800 But especially when it comes to great whites, how they can bite 395 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,720 and then they can shake their head, which many sharks don't 396 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,080 tend to do when they eat. But the fact that they can grab 397 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,600 on to to whale blubber and just keep going back and forth until 398 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,720 that chunk rips off or you'll see like the tiger sharks in the 399 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,720 great whites have different bites based on their silica gel 400 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,720 that they bite. And you can tell which one it is 401 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,920 based on the bite pattern. So things like that, just the 402 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,880 the adaptions that they have there are crazy cool as well. 403 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,480 And just the fact that they are designed to do that because I 404 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,680 mean, you don't see too much. I mean, even in like land 405 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,760 animals, you don't see too many that their their whole hunting 406 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,000 ability is just bite, RIP and tear or it's different than what 407 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 a shark does because a great white will will grab on and just 408 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,560 shake its head back and forth until that blubber comes off. 409 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,960 But a bear isn't typically going to do that. 410 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,160 They're usually just going to grab the salmon and use its paws 411 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,760 to help shred it that way. But it doesn't really grip and 412 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,840 and and tear like that, which is really cool. 413 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,920 So I think that one's another underrated but very neat one. 414 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Now I believe I have two more questions. 415 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,480 The next one goes, how many bones do sharks have? 416 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,440 Now? This one kind of hit a little 417 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,320 bit close to a recent event, which is kind of funny because I 418 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,560 went to trivia with some friends and it was the first time I've 419 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,720 been invited out and they've been losing a trivia bunch And 420 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,360 we ended up having to split up because they decided to invite 421 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,880 everyone. And the team Max size was like 6 422 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,520 and there was eight of us. But question number like 3 was 423 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,160 how many bones do sharks have? And immediately the other half 424 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,320 the team that didn't have me was like, this is just not fair. 425 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,600 So immediately everyone looked at me and I'm like, well they 426 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,240 have a jaw which is 1. Technically I was like, but the 427 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,520 rest was cartilage. And The funny thing is that a 428 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,400 lot of my friends didn't believe me for some reason. 429 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,840 And I'm like, are you kidding me? 430 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,320 Y'all are gonna question me when it comes to sharks Like and 431 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,560 they're like, but don't they have? 432 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,480 I'm like, oh here, let me get a little bit of clarification. 433 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,840 So I got the like host to come over and I was like, are we 434 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,000 counting like the teeth or are we counting just what they lock 435 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,520 into? I'm like, because if it's the 436 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,200 teeth and which one are we talking about? 437 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,440 And she's like, why do you know so much about sharks? 438 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,640 And I'm like, I have ADHD and hyperfixate on them. 439 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,840 It's great. But it is one of those things 440 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,440 that it's, it's if we're counting teeth, it depends on 441 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,360 the shark because some people count each tooth as a bone. 442 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,960 Other people just count the jaws on which some people don't even 443 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,800 count the jaws, which is, is weird. 444 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,880 So they pretty much have one bone and it's their jaw. 445 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:59,760 I do at least that I know of. There might be sharks out there 446 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,040 that have bones, but I think for the most part they all are just 447 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,080 cartilage. I haven't come across a shark in 448 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,680 my research that has bones other than a jaw. 449 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,440 So that's kind of the only thing I got for right now, but maybe 450 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,400 we'll find out in the future. Yeah, we'll see what happens. 451 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,920 But Next up, the last question I got, and this one comes from one 452 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,160 of the people that hang out and stream the most. 453 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,720 They recently found out they're going to be able to get a tattoo 454 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,960 and they asked me what tattoo I should or they should get. 455 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,360 I like how I said I I want another tattoo. 456 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:35,840 Anyway, I always go with a Wobeyong. 457 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,000 Wobeyong's are really cool. I definitely think they're 458 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,920 conversation starter epaulettes as well. 459 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,840 Definitely one that people tend to see great whites a lot. 460 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,760 They're the most tattooed ones. I mean, of course I'm going to 461 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,240 recommend so many different sharks, but I think the Wobeyong 462 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,920 looks really neat if it's done well. 463 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,600 Definitely look into an artist that can do that very well and 464 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,840 has an art style that you enjoy. But yeah, I have a thresher 465 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,360 shark tattooed on me because I was initially going to get a 466 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,960 whale shark and then I kind of chickened out because someone 467 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,240 told me that they were a lame shark and I did not want to have 468 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,960 to go around defending them. But I've decided for my next 469 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,360 tattoo it's going to be a whale shark. 470 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:11,280 So we got that going for us. So yeah, I say whichever shark 471 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,840 is your favorite, go with that one. 472 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,040 And then another great piece of advice that I got before I got a 473 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,560 couple of my tattoos was to print out a design that's 474 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,240 similar to what you want and then tape it up on a wall where 475 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,760 you're going to see it every day because and leave it there for a 476 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,520 little bit. Don't rush into this decision 477 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,840 because a lot of people like to make impulse decisions and then 478 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,120 they get annoyed seeing it or they hate it or something like 479 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,080 that. And then that's when you have to 480 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,640 start looking at cover ups, which is weird. 481 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,000 But I definitely say tape that up on a wall somewhere where 482 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,640 you'll see it every day. And then if after a while you 483 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,360 still really like it, go for it. Do it. 484 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Now, of course, you don't have to listen to me at all. 485 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,360 You can do with it what you will. 486 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,320 But that is one that I used for a couple of mine and I was 487 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,680 really glad I did because I like the designs that very well. 488 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,960 And then others were impulsive, which I still love them, which 489 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,520 is good, but I'm glad that I love them because there were 490 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,200 some that I was just kind of unmedicated and saying yes, 491 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,680 which is not the greatest idea. Which also reminds me happy 492 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240 men's mental health month, everyone, and also happy pride. 493 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,560 So your guys are always welcome here. 494 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,320 You are always going to be enough. 495 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,440 And of course, if there's ever a time that you are struggling or 496 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,320 anything, it is always OK to reach out and talk to others. 497 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,080 And please don't feel like you're alone in that fight 498 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,440 because a lot of people are going through it and it is 499 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,360 something that a lot of people feel that they have to keep 500 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,520 inside. And I disagree with that 501 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,440 completely. I think that everyone goes 502 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,480 through the things and talking about it makes us stronger and 503 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,800 also is why I had partnered with or an ambassador to find the 504 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,720 good brand because that way I can help to spread their 505 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,160 message. And also when I wear the shirt 506 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,600 that I have, it says to take care of your mental health so 507 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,720 people can see it and be like, oh, absolutely I should do that 508 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Because, you know, I feel like the universe sends signs to the 509 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,320 people who need it and maybe they'll put me in a place where 510 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,440 someone will see that and that'll be the sign that they 511 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,440 need to go talk to someone. Hopefully it helps someone one 512 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,440 day. But that is what I have for the 513 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,880 questions for this episode. I did have fun recording this 514 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,880 one. It actually, I was afraid it was 515 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,680 going to go either super long or super short and it was a lot of 516 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,640 rambling. But yeah, of course, come hang 517 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,040 out on stream anytime at the dives with sharks. 518 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,920 I appreciate you guys listening, following. 519 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,520 It's kind of crazy. I got to figure out like what 520 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,880 milestones to post when we hit because I feel like everyone I 521 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,440 want to post, I'm like, I just haven't been in this territory 522 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,920 ever. So I don't know what to what to 523 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,720 post and what not to. But come hang out, ask all the 524 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,120 questions, keep sending DMS. I appreciate all of you so, so 525 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:33,560 much. I'm going to try to get another 526 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,920 episode out sometime soon as I'm getting energy back. 527 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,240 So hopefully we'll have more normal schedule I'll go with, 528 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,920 but I mean, you all know how wildly this comes out. 529 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040 So we'll see what happens. But you all take care of 530 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,200 yourselves and take care of each other. 531 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,560 Be kind and I will see you in the next one.