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You're listening to Deep Dives 
With Sharks, the Shark podcast 

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focused on shark species. 
Sharks saved you both for you 

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and the sharks and news in the 
past couple weeks? 

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Sit back, relax. 
It's time to take a dive. 

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Hello, and welcome back, Shark. 
Here is to another episode of 

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Deep Dives with Sharks. 
I am the host here. 

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My name is Alex, and life 
decided to life again. 

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But here we are, finally getting
this episode out to you guys 

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once again. 
I do appreciate all the patience

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and support that you guys have 
had. 

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And I also wanted to mention 
that right now we're about half 

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the listeners are in the US and 
the other half are outside of 

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the US, but the US number's been
dropping simply because we've 

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been gaining so many outside of 
the US Shark heroes, which is 

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amazing. 
You guys continue to listen, 

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share, support and it's it's 
been so amazing. 

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Also, in case you're wondering, 
Texas is still the most listened

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to state, which has absolutely 
throttled me and is amazing. 

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So thank you guys so much for 
all that. 

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I am really close to reaching 
one goal that I set when I 

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started this, which was to have 
this podcast reach every state 

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and we're currently too short. 
We do have DC and and everything

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like that, but we are currently 
missing both of the Dakotas. 

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So if you guys know anyone that 
lives in North or South Dakota, 

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just send it out to him, see if 
they'll listen. 

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Then we we can make that goal 
and I'll be sick. 

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But I also can't thank you all 
enough for how much you've 

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listened, how much you've 
shared, all the messages you 

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sent, any topics, any jokes, 
anything like that. 

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I've loved all of it. 
Also, people sending in 

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different sharks that they're 
wondering what they are and they

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want me to help identify, which 
is kind of wild because I didn't

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think I'd be in that position. 
I'd also know that I've done 

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this sappy bit before, but I 
really just can't believe that 

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this is where we are. 
It's been so nuts and I 

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appreciate all of you so much 
for listening and and being so 

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involved. 
It's been amazing. 

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But I'd also like to take a 
quick second to shout out 

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science saved sharks on 
Instagram. 

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They do great work posting shark
information, interesting 

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stories, tips to help the 
environment and sharks as well 

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and also so much more. 
They also help me find other 

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shark podcasts and YouTube 
channels, which has been 

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amazing. 
So go out and give them a follow

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it's science, under score saves 
under score sharks. 

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It's a great page to follow. 
Also, real quick, I'm stealing a

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bit from John Oliver who when he
started Last Week Tonight, he 

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said that he wanted to get a 
koala center named after him in 

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Australia and he succeeded in 
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So I had a kind of lifelong goal
that anytime there's been a 

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shark that needs a name at an 
aquarium, I send in either my 

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name or one of the many 
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So I want to see if there's a 
possibility that eventually a 

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shark gets named after me 
because of this podcast, which 

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would be absolutely nuts. 
So I have had a lot of nicknames

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growing up. 
So of course, aquariums, if you 

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don't just want to name a shark,
Alex, there's there's plenty. 

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Just hit me up, I'll give you 
many of those nicknames and I 

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will be more than happy to go to
that aquarium and meet the shark

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version of me, which would be so
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But, you know, wishful thinking.
We'll see if it happens, but of 

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course, follow along on 
Instagram at deep dives with 

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sharks or on Twitter at deep 
dive sharks to participate. 

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Ask any questions, send in 
suggestions, anything like that.

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The shark that we're going to be
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basking shark, and this one was 
requested by quite a few of you,

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pretty much right around when 
people would listen to the whale

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shark episode. 
I'd usually get suggestions on 

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either that episode or also on 
like DM's or just sending it on 

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comments, things like that. 
So this one's been a long time 

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coming and I was really excited 
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Also, I did realize that pretty 
much every episode I do say that

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the shark is either very neat or
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shark. 
So this one is par for the 

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course. 
But these are the second largest

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shark. 
They measure in at around 26 

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feet long or about 7.9 meters, 
which comes in just behind my 

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personal favorite shark, the 
whale shark, which is around 40 

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feet or 20 meters. 
Now these guys have a lot of 

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names which include the bone 
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and the sunfish, which is 
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actual sailfish and actual 
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For those of you that don't know
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kind of looks like a big disc 
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have fins on top and bottom. 
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them land on their sides and 
will like Peck at the the 

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parasites on them and stuff. 
So it's a nice little 

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relationship there and sailfish 
are super fast, they have that 

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long fin on the back of them and
they also like kind of look like

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swordfish. 
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similar, but I'm I know more 
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and swordfish, so I don't know 
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if there's very similar. 
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is referred to as the home 
mother or Homer for short, which

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means the mother of the picked 
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Kind of adorable. 
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just dogfish parents, especially
since dogfish are very small and

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Orkney is just South of 
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do not know that myself 
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But basking sharks exist in most
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tropics and the Arctics. 
They like warmer waters, but not

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quite as hot as the tropics and 
definitely not as cold as the 

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Greenland shark likes it. 
So the Arctic is pretty much 

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out. 
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countries where you can find 
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around, they're not typically in
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Canada, parts of Mexico, South 
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all the way around the tip to 
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So they're not actually in 
Ecuador or Brazil, just South of

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those. 
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them in the continent of Africa,
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Northern Africa and Southern 
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weren't a part of. 
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specific on some areas, they 
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Taiwan, China, Japan, Norway, 
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Ireland. 
The list continues on and on and

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on. 
They get their name because 

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these sharks tend to hang out 
near the surface when feeding 

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and basking in the warmer water.
So basking sharks like to bask 

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in warmer waters. 
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surface, but they can also be 
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feet, or about 910 meters. 
So they do get to pretty deep 

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most of the time. 
They prefer temperatures around 

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9 to 14 1/2 degrees Celsius, or 
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Fahrenheit. 
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the equator though during 
migration, so they can exist in 

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warmer waters, but they tend to 
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and sometimes heading into 
brackish water, which is water 

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that has a lower salinity level 
than the ocean but isn't quite 

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fresh water. 
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found following where plankton 
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food. 
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basking sharks was largely 
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around 40 feet or 12 1/2 meters 
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these claims and current lengths
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so quite a bit less it's not. 
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species have shrunk over time, 
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evidence to support that. 
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concrete. 
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confused as great whites though,
which in my opinion they don't 

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look very similar, but I can see
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So just to help, here are some 
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easily identify a basking shark 
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For one, basking sharks have 
massive circular shaped mouths 

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when fully opened and feeding, 
which is a lot of times when 

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you'll see them up in the upper 
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They also have a longer, more 
rounded nose which looks very 

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different from great whites 
which are definitely more 

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pointed and straight. 
So it kind of looks like a 

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basking sharks nose would be 
squishy, but great whites tends 

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to look like it'd be more firm. 
These sharks also have more 

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textured skin, smaller teeth, 
and they also look like they 

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have a severe overbite, so they 
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These guys are also incredibly 
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They only move about 2.3 mph or 
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kilometers per hour. 
Now because that doesn't hold a 

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lot of weight for a lot of 
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Just for reference, Michael 
Phelps, the most decorated 

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Olympian of all time, also from 
Maryland. 

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But you know, whatever, it's 
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He swam at about 6 mph. 
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Michael Phelps against a basking
shark, he probably would have 

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won. 
Instead, they put him against a 

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great white, which was much 
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So you know, whatever. 
But these sharks also have 

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massive livers that run the 
length of what would be their 

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abdomen or midsection, so that 
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area on a human. 
Researchers believe that it does

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account for 25% of their body 
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weight is about 4.58 long tons. 
These sharks greatly adapted to 

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filter feeding by having a 
massive mouth that is circular 

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in shape, unlike the whale 
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mouth. 
These guys also have gill rakers

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that help with filtering 
plankton from the water so that 

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the gills can process gases such
as oxygen from the water without

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getting all gunked up by 
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Whale sharks also have this 
adaption, and so do many filter 

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feeders. 
But unlike whale sharks, basking

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sharks do not actively filter 
feed, meaning they can't suck 

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the water into their mouth and 
force it through their gills. 

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Instead, they do ram 
ventilation, which is where they

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swim with their mouth open to 
collect the plankton that way. 

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Which whale sharks can do that 
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But typically when you see them 
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the water, spit it back out. 
They can filter about 450 tons 

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of water an hour, which equals a
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They did not give me an actual 
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lot. 
They have been seen in groups of

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up to 1400 in the northern US 
around Maine during high 

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plankton blooms. 
They have some interesting 

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social behaviors as they 
typically are solitary animals 

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during the summer months, but 
during the winter when the 

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plankton are dense, they form 
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based on the gender of the 
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So males stay with males, 
females stay with females, 

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although some groups can jump up
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Now I know that that might be a 
little bit confusing since I did

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just say they can be seen in 
groups about the 1400s. 

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So just for a little bit of 
clarification, you typically 

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find them in small groups about 
3:00 to 4:00 based on gender, 

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but that can also jump up to 
100, which is more common to 

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find three to four. 
Sometimes you find 100, but when

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you get all those groups 
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winter, then that's when you get
about 1400 individuals there. 

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So the same way that whale 
sharks travel down to Cancun and

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you see about 400 whale sharks 
around that area in like the 

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springtime, it's the same thing,
but it's not all 400 whale 

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sharks just in a ball. 
Same way you're not getting all 

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1400 basking sharks just on top 
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They they're in the same area 
but there's there's space 

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between the groups in southern 
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the Bay of Fundy and the head 
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I am so sorry if I'm if I'm 
butchering these. 

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I've not been to these places 
and I I've never heard these 

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places said so I'm terribly, 
terribly sorry. 

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Basking sharks have been 
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in circles and scientists 
believe that this is a form of a

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mating ritual which is actually 
rather neat because a lot of 

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sharks don't really have a 
mating ritual besides just 

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biting each other which is 
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They do or they don't have many 
predators, but they have been 

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seen to have lampreys stuck to 
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thicker skins. 
They're kind of like eel like 

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creatures that like the latch on
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sharks feed on the remains of 
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California. 
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jerks. 
First they're eating 6 gill 

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sharks, livers, now they're 
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So it's on site. 
Orcas I will lose, but it's on 

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site. 
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my goodness, I cannot say this 
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viviparous. 
There we go, my goodness. 

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Which means that the eggs 
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are ready to be born into the 
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year, maybe up to two or even 3 
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Mating begins in early summer 
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the mother moves into shallow 
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Scientists do not have an 
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are born at once, but they are 
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about 6 foot 7 or 1 1/2 to 2 
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Easy enough. 
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endangered for a variety of 
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Being a larger shark, their fins
are incredibly valuable to 

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certain people who are also lame
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be caught and finned. 
They also are used as fish meal 

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oil from their liver, as the 
hide for leather, and they're 

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also used as medicine and as an 
aphrodisiac, which does not work

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and to keep it PG. 
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that, but that is what I have 
about the basking shark for this

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week, if you guys have any 
questions or anything like that.

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One little fun fact that I 
remember from a couple years ago

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but I couldn't find any update 
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around Maine had been observed 
breaching the water at about 5 

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meters a second, and scientists 
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If it was like to help get 
parasites off them or any 

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anything like that to this date,
I believe it's still a mystery. 

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So if anyone has an answer for 
that, send it my way. 

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That'd be so sick to figure that
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Finally, because it's been 
bounced around my brain for 

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years, it's like my one of my 
favorite shark facts to tell and

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everyone's like, oh, you ever 
figure it out? 

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I I didn't. 
So maybe you guys can help me 

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out. 
That'd be kind of sick. 

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But of course. 
You guys have any questions? 

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Anything like that, send them 
over to me on the socials and 

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I'll be so happy to read about 
that. 

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But going on to shark safety now
this week we're going to be 

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covering what to do if sharks 
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doing water activities and this 
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surfing, etcetera. 
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surfline.com if you want to find
the actual article. 

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I did take pretty much all of it
just from there, but they said 

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something long line to like how 
to prevent sharks attacking you 

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while doing water sports, which 
I don't like the word attack so 

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I just switched the title a 
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But check them out, they're 
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But a very common tip that 
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safety section that I've done on
this podcast is to avoid their 

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feeding times. 
Once again that is dawn and 

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dusk. 
I know it's beautiful and 

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getting that golden hour surf is
so sick, but it's also when 

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sharks are most active and you 
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So wait a little bit, head out 
when it's a little bit brighter 

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out. 
More visibility to you means 

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less chance something sneaks up 
on you. 

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You also want to keep your head 
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I know I've mentioned this a lot
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observing your surroundings when
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Before you even get in the 
water, you want to be looking 

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out for signs that sharks could 
be nearby. 

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Now typically sharks aren't 
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sand, but this is time to be 
looking rather than when you get

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in the water. 
This could be literal signs that

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people put there that tell you, 
hey, there's been a shark in the

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water, dead prey on the beach 
with bite marks, maybe even a 

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bait ball or fresh fish frenzy. 
My goodness, that is not too far

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from shore. 
Which for those that don't know 

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what that looks like, it kind of
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These are signs that a shark is 
nearby and extreme caution 

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should be used. 
These things could also be from 

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other animals. 
Dolphins tend to stir up bait 

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balls quite frequently, 
especially out in Ocean City, 

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MD. 
I remember all the times we look

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out and see a bait ball going 
crazy and you'd see a dolphin 

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jump up and it was really cool. 
So sometimes it's just dolphins.

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But just because dolphins there,
that doesn't mean sharks aren't 

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nearby. 
So just make sure you still keep

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your head on the swivel. 
Don't let your guard down. 

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You would like to avoid deep 
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If you're on a kayak or paddle 
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a cargo ship, so you can go into
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Shallower areas, That's a hard 
phrase to say, but without 

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worrying about scraping the 
bottom. 

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Do watch for oyster patches or 
smaller things that might scrape

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the bottom of your kayak or 
paddle board, but you shouldn't 

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have to worry about those too 
much. 

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Especially if you're watching 
for sharks. 

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It's probably going to be a 
little bit deeper than that, but

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sharks do like deep channels 
because fish often are forced 

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into a certain area in those 
channels so the sharks can hunt 

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so much easier. 
Just all they got to do is 

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pretty much is go chomp and 
they're done, so don't let them 

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confuse you for a fish here. 
You also want to watch for river

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mouths, as that's another area 
where rivers dump into a larger 

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body of water and sharks hang 
out there because brackish fish 

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will swim right to him. 
So makes it easy hunting. 

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Sharks tend to go for the easy 
fish to get, and if you're just 

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going to swim right into their 
mouths, well they're going to 

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hang out right there. 
Now safety's in safety in 

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numbers is absolutely huge. 
Now, sharks don't often go after

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a group of large prey, and 
humans would be considered to 

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look like large prey. 
We're not really pray for them. 

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They don't often go after us, 
but especially if they're going 

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for a bunch of seals, you you 
don't see him trying to get 4 

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seals at once, they're usually 
going for one eat one seal, one 

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tuna, not 12. 
So they go for the prey that's 

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isolated as well. 
So try not to venture too far 

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away from your group. 
Try to stay in the nice, not too

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tight compact group, but stay 
together. 

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That way the sharks not going to
try to get you if you're 

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isolated. 
Now this one was a funny title 

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for me, said don't wear a lure, 
which at first I was like, well,

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yeah, who's going to tie a 
fishing line to their leg and 

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just dangle their foot in the 
water with the lure on the end? 

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That's that's kind of weird. 
But then I realized they were 

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talking about jewelry and so 
some lures do have shiny bits on

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them that tend to catch the 
sunlight and mimic fish scales 

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to get other fish to bite. 
Your jewelry will do the exact 

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same. 
So smaller sharks may come and 

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investigate and determine that 
your finger, ankle and neck, 

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anything that has a shiny on it,
is a tasty fish and you could 

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get bit. 
So try to leave all the shiny's 

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back on the beach. 
You also want to stay away from 

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Dead Sea life. 
First of all, it's gross, could 

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have germs or diseases on it to 
get you sick and you don't know 

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why it died, so just don't touch
it. 

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But also, sharks do tend to eat 
dead stuff sometimes. 

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And if you're trying to use Mr. 
Dead Seal or Dead Fish as a 

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puppet, well, now you smell like
fish or seal and a shark could 

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get confused and or think your 
ventriloquism is just terrible 

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and they'll bite you for that 
reason. 

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They're rather judgmental now. 
That of course, is a joke. 

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So they're not going to bite you
because you do bad 

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ventriloquism, but just don't 
touch dead things. 

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It's just not a good idea. 
You also want to try not to 

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flail about. 
This one is one thing that if 

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you're falling and you're trying
to regain your balance, that's 

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fine. 
You know, sometimes you got to 

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do a quick motion. 
You don't have to be methodical 

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the entire time, but also don't 
just start splashing your 

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friends left, right and center. 
If you feel like there might be 

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a shark nearby, that's not a 
great idea. 

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You don't want to slap the 
surface jolt around just for the

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sake of flailing. 
This is one of the many ways to 

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alert sharks to come closer and 
see what's up. 

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It's cool if a shark swims by, 
but you don't want to do things 

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that actively attract them to 
you because once sharks are 

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nearby it's more likely you're 
going to get bit. 

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If sharks aren't in the area, 
they can't bite you, but if you 

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bring sharks right to you, 
they're going to try to figure 

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out what you are in one of those
ways with their mouth and they 

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have really sharp teeth, so just
got to be careful in that one. 

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Another tip is to gear up. 
Now this simply means that 

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there's ways to deter sharks. 
One of the ways that they 

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mentioned was giant eye stickers
on the bottom of your board, 

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making it appear like a large 
predator which could confuse the

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shark. 
There's also shark Billy's. 

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Now this one I would say is 
probably one of the best, which 

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is simply just a stick that all 
you need is you could really be 

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anything. 
I know that they've said before 

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that Shark Billy's could be even
like an umbrella stand, like 

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something like that. 
That just keeps them away. 

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I think a lot of the ones that 
they use on Shark Week are like 

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kind of like reinforced like 
foam ones. 

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That way they don't hurt the 
shark either. 

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But it shouldn't be anything 
shark. 

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You're not trying to stab it. 
You're it should be very blunt, 

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just so that way you can push 
them away from you without 

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having to use your hand or your 
body, anything like that. 

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I know I talked about them in my
rant, but looking more into 

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them, they actually seem 
incredibly useful. 

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I don't bring them with me to 
the beach because I usually 

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don't go out like past my hips, 
but probably wouldn't be the 

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worst idea and I'm I'm not. 
I don't think I'm just going to 

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be out there waiting and 
standing there with a stick. 

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So you know, just just something
to think about. 

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But if you're going to go out 
deep or go diving or kayaking, 

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anything like that is something 
you can just leave on on your 

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board. 
Or on the kayak it it it'll be 

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helpful to keep the sharks a 
little bit away from you. 

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If they do start investigating 
now. 

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There are also devices that will
put electronic pulses in the 

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water that keep sharks away. 
I'm not sure how expensive they 

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are, anything like that, but 
they do need more research. 

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So the article did mention that 
these need a lot more research 

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to see exactly how effective 
they are. 

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They've shown good results so 
far. 

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But also I know that sometimes 
if a shark sees eyes, it might 

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think, oh this is an easy meal 
and it might go for you at that 

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point. 
So maybe wait for more research 

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and hold off Maybe for now just 
go with the shark Billy, that's 

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probably going to be the best 
gear for you. 

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And also as I mentioned, not 
wearing the color yellow because

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sharks can see that very, very 
well in the water and also not 

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wearing shiny things. 
So those those types of things 

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are like the the biggest ones 
that have been researched. 

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And of course lastly is to just 
get out of the water. 

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There's a shark nearby and it 
won't bug off and you feel like 

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you're going to get bit. 
Just head back to shore or the 

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launch or wherever you are. 
Just get out of the water. 

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It's totally fine to call it and
try again. 

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I I know that it might be 
frustrating because you're on 

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vacation and this is what you 
thought was going to be such a 

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great experience and this is the
time you allotted for that. 

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But it's also not going to be 
really fun if you get bit now. 

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You got to spend the rest of the
day in the hospital and possibly

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the next couple days. 
Like you want to spend your 

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vacation enjoying your vacation,
not laying in a hospital bed. 

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So don't force an experience if 
it's unsafe, just that goes 

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across the board in general, not
just for sharks but in anything.

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So if you've signed up for para 
sailing and the thunderstorms 

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coming, you know, call it, just 
go, go do something else, play 

446
00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:04,140
mini golf, you know, something 
like that, you know, just don't,

447
00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,100
don't go up in the that's a fear
of mine. 

448
00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:11,660
So I know I am terrified of para
sailing in general, but dear 

449
00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:14,900
God, do not get on a para sail 
when it's about to storm. 

450
00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:20,170
Anyway, that is what I have for 
the shark safety portion or 

451
00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,450
yeah, shark shark safety portion
of the episode. 

452
00:22:23,450 --> 00:22:24,850
My goodness, that fell apart at 
the end. 

453
00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:28,570
But we're going to move on to 
Shark news. 

454
00:22:29,330 --> 00:22:32,290
And now this one. 
I do actually have one from a 

455
00:22:32,290 --> 00:22:35,130
country I haven't actually. 
Both of these I haven't really 

456
00:22:35,130 --> 00:22:37,570
talked about yet, which is 
really exciting. 

457
00:22:38,130 --> 00:22:39,530
I didn't realize that till right
now. 

458
00:22:39,530 --> 00:22:42,860
That's awesome. 
But going into the shark news, 

459
00:22:42,860 --> 00:22:46,780
the first one is that diver spot
quote blue shadow in Kenya. 

460
00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:50,380
Then amazing sea creature 
appears among sharks and this is

461
00:22:50,380 --> 00:22:54,020
reported by the Miami Herald. 
Now this one comes from Kenya as

462
00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:57,020
I mentioned, which I haven't 
covered a lot of stories of 

463
00:22:57,020 --> 00:22:59,420
sharks from Africa in general, 
so as a continent. 

464
00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:02,380
So I was pumped for this and if 
you guys have any other African 

465
00:23:02,380 --> 00:23:04,980
shark stories or want to hear 
more about those, please send 

466
00:23:04,980 --> 00:23:07,380
them over my way. 
I will be so happy to do them. 

467
00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:09,420
I'm trying to expand as much as 
I can hear. 

468
00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:13,740
Also haven't done too many Asian
sharks so definitely should hit 

469
00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:16,140
some of those. 
When I hit alien sharks out in 

470
00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:18,220
Japan I've hit a couple so you 
know well. 

471
00:23:18,860 --> 00:23:23,500
Anyway, I digress, but a dive 
team was researching sharks in 

472
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:26,180
the area when they noticed a 
large shadow in the water with 

473
00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:28,900
white spots and that's when they
quickly realized it was a whale 

474
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:31,660
shark, which I am also now just 
realizing this is a very whale 

475
00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:35,020
shark heavy episode. 
They said it was breathtaking 

476
00:23:35,020 --> 00:23:36,740
and a once in a lifetime 
experience. 

477
00:23:36,740 --> 00:23:39,220
And I know I've mentioned it on 
here so many times that I 

478
00:23:39,220 --> 00:23:42,660
snorkeled with whale sharks in 
Cancun and that's the best way 

479
00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:45,380
to describe it. 
It's just you're there and it's 

480
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:49,340
so amazing to see these giant 
creatures just hanging out and 

481
00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:51,340
doing their thing, especially 
when you're in person. 

482
00:23:52,260 --> 00:23:55,220
In the video, the whale shark 
looks like it's a juvenile, but 

483
00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:58,740
the Ocean's also very vast, so 
it it could couldn't really 

484
00:23:58,740 --> 00:24:01,340
identify its size there. myself 
and I didn't see anything in the

485
00:24:01,340 --> 00:24:04,420
article or the video that said 
how big it was, but it was just 

486
00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:07,820
hanging out, eating some 
plankton and enjoying its life. 

487
00:24:07,820 --> 00:24:10,060
And the divers were so excited 
to be around it. 

488
00:24:10,060 --> 00:24:12,100
They took some videos. 
The guy took a selfie with it, 

489
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:14,580
which was sick. 
I wish I would have taken 

490
00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:17,020
advantage of that, but I was 
freaking out the entire time I 

491
00:24:17,020 --> 00:24:19,220
was swimming with him, so I 
didn't get to do that. 

492
00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:22,660
But yeah, it's really cool. 
I'm really happy to hear that 

493
00:24:22,660 --> 00:24:24,780
the whale sharks are just 
hanging out around Kenya and 

494
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,480
people are hanging out with 
them. 

495
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,040
That's pretty sick. 
Now of course, I will once again

496
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,720
mention that no matter what 
sharks you are hanging out with,

497
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,120
no matter how docile or how calm
they seem, don't just start 

498
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:38,760
touching sharks. 
There's oils on your hands that 

499
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,200
can potentially hurt them. 
And of course, you don't want 

500
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,400
them to get too comfortable 
around humans because some 

501
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,310
people just have bad intentions 
when it comes to sharks. 

502
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:49,990
And it's kind of the same way 
you shouldn't start feeding the 

503
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:52,110
wildlife in a park. 
You don't want bears to get too 

504
00:24:52,110 --> 00:24:54,630
comfortable around humans, 
anything like that. 

505
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:57,870
So don't go out trying to pet 
the shark, no matter how 

506
00:24:57,870 --> 00:25:00,870
pettable they look. 
I do agree that some sharks are 

507
00:25:00,870 --> 00:25:02,950
adorable and they look like a 
little puppy that just needs a 

508
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:06,150
little boop, but they also have 
very sharp teeth and they might 

509
00:25:06,150 --> 00:25:10,190
take your gentle pat on the 
head, as is the threat, and 

510
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:11,870
they'll bite you. 
So just be careful there. 

511
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:15,520
But the other story that I have 
is South Africa's missing sharks

512
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,200
have been found and this is by 
Hakai magazine I believe. 

513
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,040
I'm sorry once again if I 
mispronounced your name but this

514
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,080
one is really really cool. 
Now I I think this is the first 

515
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,920
really really cool I've thrown 
out in the podcast but South 

516
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,040
Africa was losing a lot of 
sharks, especially great whites 

517
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,600
due to orcas which I am 
realizing with the Pasco. 

518
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,440
I'm realizing a lot recently, 
but within the past couple 

519
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,000
episodes this has been a very 
anti Orca podcast. 

520
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,680
And if anyone who has an Orca 
podcast wants to have a 

521
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,080
conversation or anyone who just 
likes orcas wants to come in and

522
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,360
change my mind, please let me 
know because I'm willing to have

523
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:54,160
a chat. 
But back on track, these orcas 

524
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,520
would go after great whites, oil
rich livers and leave the rest 

525
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,080
of the body to either sink to 
the bottom or wash up on shore 

526
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,600
and terrorize children because 
they're evil. 

527
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,420
But Orcas Lander aside, they're 
crazy intelligent to be able to 

528
00:26:08,420 --> 00:26:10,460
figure out that this is the part
of the shark that they like to 

529
00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:12,660
eat and that they all can just 
have the rest. 

530
00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:17,020
Now Great white numbers had 
declined greatly, and they seem 

531
00:26:17,020 --> 00:26:19,460
to disappear from the areas 
where they once dominated. 

532
00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:22,380
Thankfully they decided that the
area had gone down the drain and

533
00:26:22,380 --> 00:26:24,700
they wanted to move to nicer 
waters, which they wouldn't get 

534
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:27,060
killed by orcas. 
So they moved further east and 

535
00:26:27,060 --> 00:26:29,620
set up shop there. 
Now the numbers have been able 

536
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:32,580
to rebound, which has been 
great, but time will tell if 

537
00:26:32,580 --> 00:26:34,980
they're able to sustain these 
numbers or if orcas will drive 

538
00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:38,020
them out once again. 
So happy story for now. 

539
00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:42,220
Potentially more issues to come 
in the future, but that is what 

540
00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:44,780
I have for this episode. 
I want to thank you all once 

541
00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:47,700
again for listening. 
Of course, follow the Instagram 

542
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:51,180
and the Twitter once again, that
is at deep dives with sharks on 

543
00:26:51,180 --> 00:26:53,580
Instagram and deep dive sharks 
on Twitter. 

544
00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:57,930
I run polls, ask questions, I do
stuff throughout the week. 

545
00:26:57,930 --> 00:27:00,330
Hopefully I try to keep you 
updated on what's going on in my

546
00:27:00,330 --> 00:27:02,850
own life and when you should 
expect another episode. 

547
00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:05,330
And of course, I love to hear 
what you all would like to hear 

548
00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:07,090
as well. 
So send those my way, any 

549
00:27:07,090 --> 00:27:09,090
comments, questions, anything of
that sort. 

550
00:27:09,970 --> 00:27:12,970
And of course, give us a rating 
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551
00:27:12,970 --> 00:27:15,010
Share it with anyone who you 
think will listen. 

552
00:27:15,370 --> 00:27:18,170
Thank you all so much. 
You're all so amazing and I will

553
00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:19,850
see you in the next one.
