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Hello and welcome back Shark. 
Here is to another episode of 

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Deep Dives with Sharks. 
My name is Alex, I'm the host of

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this thing and I highly 
recommend pulling up any 

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aquarium live cams from their 
websites while working. 

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Unless you run a shark themed 
podcast and have ADHD and are 

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also super late on the episode 
as always, whoops. 

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Also, if my HR department is 
listening, please don't take my 

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sharks away. 
I'll be good, I get my work done

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I swear. 
But I do have a quick few life 

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updates. 
First of all, Happy New Year 

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everybody. 
I hope you all had a nice 

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relaxing holiday season. 
I was supposed to get this out 

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around Thanksgiving here in the 
US, which for those who are 

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unaware is the end of November. 
But life had many curveballs to 

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throw. 
I had to fly back home to 

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Maryland, Work was being hectic 
as all get out and I found 

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myself needing a little break. 
That was very much not planned. 

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But we're back again. 
Now I do have another piece of 

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exciting news. 
This is no longer one man show. 

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We now have Brie, who is helping
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scenes work, including helping 
with research, a social media 

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post, and so much more. 
We'll see how else she's 

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involved as we progress, but 
she's been incredibly helpful 

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with everything so far and I'm 
excited to have her on board. 

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You guys asked and I delivered, 
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The merch link is in the bio. 

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Buy while you can and more is 
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definitely help the podcast to 
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Here is next episode. 
But as you guys may have known 

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due to the episode title, we're 
going to be talking about the 

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swell shark this week. 
And the swell shark is cool 

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because like the name gives it 
away, they're pretty swell. 

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What's what's that? 
They they swell the twice their 

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their size as a defense 
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It's not just because they're 
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Well, you know what? 
They're still pretty swelled to 

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me. 
Swell sharks are in the cat 

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shark family and similar to 
other cat sharks, they don't 

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grow incredibly large. 
They grow to be about 43 inches 

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or 110 centimeters long. 
They're a yellowish brown with 

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dark blotches and white spots. 
They can be hard to describe as 

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they have really great 
camouflage and they blend in 

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with the environment well. 
The color blotches break up 

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their outline as well, and they 
do blend in among reef and rocky

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surfaces, which is where they 
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They have large eyes and mouths 
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It kind of looks like someone 
pushed their nose in a little 

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bit. 
They almost look like a blend 

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between will be gong coloration,
epaulette body and the pajama 

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shark's head. 
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beautiful. 
I must say. 

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I loved looking at pictures of 
these guys and the times I've 

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seen them in aquariums, but I'll
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later. 
Now they inhabit the Pacific 

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Ocean off the coast of 
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southern Mexico. 
You can find them off the coast 

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of Chile. 
Swell sharks are bottom dollars 

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and they can be found at depths 
of around 15,000 feet, which is 

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475 meters, but most are found 
at depths of 16 to 121 feet or 5

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to 37 meters. 
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they also tend to like it closer
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They like rocky algae covered 
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nocturnal, they spend their days
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crevices. 
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but they come out at night to 
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prey or resting quietly on the 
bottom with its mouth wide open,

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waiting for oblivious prey. 
So the will be gone comparison 

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wasn't far off. 
Now swell Sharks are oviperous, 

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which means they lay eggs. 
So you know, you've heard me say

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Ovo viviperous before, which is 
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internally. 
These guys just lay, which is 

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oviparous. 
You may have heard about the 

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shark pup at the Shreveport 
Aquarium that hatched in a tank 

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with only two other female 
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Those were swell sharks. 
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The egg case was found by the 
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2024. 
And a tank with two female swell

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sharks. 
Yes, female swell sharks can lay

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eggs without male present, but 
they don't develop into viable 

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embryos. 
So Yoko's birth was a bit of 

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surprise no one expected. 
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covered this when it came out 
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shark Jesus, but rather than 
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actually because of parthenic 
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Parthenogenesis I believe is how
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egg just decides it's going to 
become a baby without needing a 

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male shark. 
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general consensus, and once Yoko
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will take a blood sample to be 
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Now there are some interesting 
facts about the swell shark as 

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well, and first of all is the 
fact that when they're 

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threatened, they curve into AU 
shape and gulp water to swell 

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its stomach. 
This helps the shark anchor into

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crevices, which makes them 
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predators to bite, hence the 
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They are biofluorescent, which 
means they glow green under blue

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or UV light, which is also neat 
because they also have scorpions

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that do that. 
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southwest will find them in 
their homes as they'll just take

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AUV light around and then 
they'll see them glow really 

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bright, which is kind of neat. 
They are currently listed as 

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least concerned. 
They don't really have much 

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benefit to the shark trade. 
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often they're accidentally 
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recreational Fisher. 
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issue but no one really going 
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They are also harmless and will 
avoid humans but can bite if 

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stepped on or provoked. 
So still the best idea to not 

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play with sharks in general. 
And also even if you see someone

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who has a Shark Tank on TikTok, 
don't take that as a green light

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to go get yourself a shark. 
What are we doing? 

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But Speaking of aquariums, you 
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aquariums. 
Two that I've been to where I've

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been able to see them or the 
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They're on the 3rd floor, I 
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exhibit, which is either the 3rd
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But I think the 4th floor is the
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I'm trying to visualize. 
I haven't been to the aquarium 

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in a minute. 
I need to go back. 

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But they're to the right of the 
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You'll typically see them under 
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to the right or the one that's 
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There are little 2 caves there 
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And also if you ever see a weird
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squatting down near that 
exhibit, I'm looking for the 

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spell shark. 
Leave me alone. 

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But I will say I have pointed 
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concerned looks repeatedly. 
The other place that I've seen 

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them is in Georgia. 
I forget exactly which section 

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they were in, but I know that 
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dolphins, or the Ocean Voyager 
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So it's either in the Arctic or 
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I believe it's the Arctic 1, 
though I can't remember for 

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sure, but it is over near the 
spider crabs I believe. 

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Once again, I've only been to 
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could be wrong, but that one was
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and really easy to see at least 
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But I think the next time I went
they were they were away 

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somewhere. 
But anyway, that's what we have 

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for the small shark this time. 
Of course, if I forgot to 

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mention your favorite fact about
them or if there's anything else

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you'd like me to talk about, 
please feel free to send that 

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over to me on the social medias.
I do best at replying on 

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Instagram. 
Also, if I have not replied to 

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your message on Instagram, I 
apologize. 

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Sometimes it does, doesn't Alert
me, so it might take a couple 

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days, but I promise I will get 
to it. 

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But going on to safety today 
we're talking about something 

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that doesn't get nearly enough 
attention. 

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The role of life lifeguards play
in preventing and responding to 

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shark encounters For many 
lifeguards, dealing with the 

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presence of sharks is just 
another day at the office. 

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More common than most people 
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And the surprising part? 
They say it's really nothing to 

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fear. 
The confidence comes from the 

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extensive measures lifeguards 
take to protect swimmers long 

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before the shark even gets 
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When you choose to swim near 
lifeguard tower, you're not just

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getting someone who watches 
swimmers, you're getting someone

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who consistently reads the 
ocean. 

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Lifeguards are trained to scan 
the water for unusual patterns, 

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splashing in odd places, bait 
fish, schooling tightly, or 

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movement that's might signal a 
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And if they spot something 
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Clearing the water is something 
they can do in seconds. 

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As someone who was a lifeguard 
at a pool, to clarify, I did not

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work at a beach. 
That was way too much for me to 

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do. 
I'd rather sit in the chair and 

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work on my tan. 
But as a pool lifeguard, I did 

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make rescues. 
Don't come at me. 

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It is something that we're 
constantly doing is watching the

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water. 
And if something looks weird, 

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we're usually the first ones to 
realize it. 

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So we usually are able to alert 
and get people out of the water.

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The beach lifeguards can do a 
lot more and they can get people

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out of the water just as quickly
as we can get you out of a pool.

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So a big kudos to those guys. 
But their job doesn't stop at 

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surveillance. 
Lifeguards are big on public 

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education. 
They offer safety tips that can 

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genuinely reduce risk. 
Things like avoiding Dawn and 

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Dusk's whims when sharks are 
more active or steering clear of

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areas where people are fishing. 
These small choices make a big 

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difference. 
In the very first episode, I 

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talked about fishing Piers. 
Those are hotspots for sharks. 

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Any structure where fish might 
school around, sharks tend to be

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nearby because also if we got a 
hooked fish, that's a pretty 

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easy meal. 
So they tend to be around there.

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In the extremely rare chance 
that a shark attack does occur, 

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lifeguards are your first line 
of emergency care. 

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They're trained in advanced 
water rescue, CPR, and immediate

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first aid to control bleeding 
and stabilize A victim until 

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medical help arrives. 
Their response can be life 

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saving. 
I will also speak as a lifeguard

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to say that the training we go 
through is so extensive. 

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Once again, this is for just 
working at a pool, and working 

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at a beach is even more 
extensive. 

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But I can still do rescues in my
sleep. 

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I have not been a lifeguard 
since before I graduated with my

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undergrad degree and it's been 
about five years going on 6. 

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I can still do these rescues 
like the back of my hand. 

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They drill this into them so you
do not have anything to to worry

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about now. 
What's also changing is 

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technology. 
Many agencies are using tools 

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like drones and acoustic buoys 
to track shark movement in real 

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time. 
This give lifeguards advanced 

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warning and adds an extra layer 
of protection for beachgoers 

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across the board. 
Marine experts and lifeguards 

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emphasize one thing. 
The safest choice you can make 

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at the beach is a swim in a 
lifeguard protected area. 

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Their training, awareness and 
rapid response capabilities 

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dramatically reduce risks not 
just from sharks, but from all 

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kinds of ocean hazards. 
So next time you hit the beach, 

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look for that lifeguard tower. 
They're doing far more than 

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meets the eye to keep you safe. 
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of lifeguard towers because she 
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probably too far, which 
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point and thankfully it never 
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But guess what, if we were, that
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or anything like that, you'd see
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moving. 
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overlooked myself and Bree is 
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define this topic was of course,
the simplicity of just being 

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near a lifeguard, which a lot of
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They're not really there to yell
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the beach as much as they are to
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someone if they need to. 
I also want to give a huge shout

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out to the lifeguards at Bondi 
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Unfortunately, the the recent 
shooting that had happened 

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there, there have been numerous 
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lifeguards that were working 
that day and did amazing things 

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to save countless lives. 
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people in the water, they're 
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constantly. 
So a huge shout out to all 

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lifeguards out there, whether I 
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around saying that the pool 
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tan, but you guys also do a lot 
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I have to say the amount of work
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is bias coming from a former 
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those that have worked on the 
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that have made many rescues at 
pools, it's just a lot of work 

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that look goes overlooked. 
And I want to give you guys your

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flowers. 
So thank you for that. 

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But that is what we had for the 
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Of course, it is also a little 
shorter, but that is all right 

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because we do have some news for
everyone coming out in November 

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27th in Uzbekistan. 
We have great news for sharks 

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and rays. 
A historic win occurred at the 

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Convention on International 
Trade in Endangered Species, 

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which is sites where 
participating nations voted to 

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increase protections for over 
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That includes a complete ban on 
international commercial trade 

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for oceanic whitetip sharks, 
whale sharks, manta rays and and

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devil rays. 
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that a shark species has 
received full protection with a 

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complete international trade ban
under sites, which is huge 

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because even before you could 
get away with a little bit and a

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little bit got bent to a lot of 
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And it's not just because 
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anything like that. 
It's because people have done a 

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lot to sneak around these laws. 
I myself, when we went to Santa 

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Cruz a few months ago, saw a 
local shop that was selling of 

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fish. 
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one it was, but it was a shark 
that was labeled as something 

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different. 
And do I think they know that 

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they were selling shark? 
I don't know. 

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I didn't question them. 
They could have. 

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I doubt it. 
I mean, I don't know who would 

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want to. 
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one of those things that people 
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But I mean, I could be very 
wrong. 

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But even like seeing that so 
close to home now is crazy 

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because it makes you think how 
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something and not realized that 
this was because of illegal 

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trade that is just being 
classified as something 

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different. 
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And it is really exciting to 
know that all these sharks now 

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have protection. 
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the big three ones, but that's 
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But that they still have these 
protections and they're not 

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going to be bothered. 
And if they do, people are going

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to come for them, which is 
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So very much for that. 
Now I do have to give a quick 

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trigger warning. 
So the next article does in fact

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cover a shark attack that led to
a swimmers passing and it might 

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not be suitable for all 
listeners. 

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So for or any parents listening 
with kids, I'm not gonna add a 

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bunch of gross details or 
anything like that but want to 

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put that out there real quick. 
So the title of the article is 

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that body found off of 
California coast is triathlete 

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believed to have been killed in 
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This is reported by USA TODAY. 
So a triathlete which for those 

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of you who do not know 
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running, swimming and biking all
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So they were swimming off 
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is believed that she was bit by 
a shark and eventually succumbed

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to her injuries. 
It was noted that she was 

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wearing a shark band which is 
meant to deter sharks, but we 

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are still here at this outcome. 
This is not meant to attack 

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shark bands or devices that are 
intended to limit or eliminate 

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shark bites altogether. 
This is a show that there isn't 

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a 100% shark proof method and 
that dangers in the water are 

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unfortunately always a 
possibility. 

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Some sources are going as far as
to say that this device could 

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have caused the shark to bite 
due to becoming agitated at the 

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device. 
I'll by myself, I'm not sure 

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exactly how the device works, 
but we've all been somewhere and

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there is something annoying to 
you that just won't stop. 

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Like a smoke alarm that won't 
stop beeping because it's 

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battery is low or an alarm going
off and it's just a high pitched

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squeal and anything along those 
lines and you're just ready to 

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throw it or break it in some way
to get the stop. 

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And it's possible that if this 
device utilized electric pulses 

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or something that irritated the 
shark more than got it to leave,

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it would do something to make it
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If you're just hanging out in 
your living room and something 

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starts getting annoying, you're 
going to get rid of it too. 

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Now to also defend the device. 
It could have been faulty and 

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not working properly, may have 
been out of charge, whole slew 

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of options. 
But this is all to say, you 

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can't trust a shark repellent 
100% as things can go wrong, so 

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it's always best to stay alert. 
This device could have worked 

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perfectly for years and then all
of a sudden it's case and got 

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damaged. 
Something like that. 

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The article didn't go too into 
depth and how the device works. 

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What could have gone wrong with 
the device? 

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And I've seen things that people
say are 100% foolproof and then 

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they'll test it on shark week or
shark Fest and the the shark 

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bites it and it's not. 
So you can have varying results.

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But one thing I always say is to
just make sure you keep your 

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head on a swivel. 
Just be aware of what you're 

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doing. 
You don't have to be so alert 

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that you're not enjoying 
yourself, but also realize that 

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you are in nature the same way. 
You're not going to go out to 

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the mountains and then all of a 
sudden slather yourself up in 

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BBQ sauce and then be really 
confused when a bear shows up. 

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Like it just doesn't make sense.
You're not going to do things to

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not prevent a bear from coming 
to you while you're camping. 

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It makes sense that you do 
things to to prevent a shark 

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from getting closer to you when 
you're in the water, but just be

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careful when doing that. 
Know that anything that you do 

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is not guaranteed to 100% keep 
everything away. 

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And also, if you are deterring 
one thing, who's to say that 

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another thing can't get past 
that and still do something. 

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But all that just to say, keep 
your head up, stay alert, and 

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stay safe out there. 
But that is what we had for this

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episode. 
I want to thank you all for 

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listening once again. 
Comment or DM your shark 

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encounter experiences so I can 
share them at the start or end 

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of the next episode. 
We'll see which one you guys 

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want more. 
I'll follow the Instagram for 

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more updates on deep dives with 
sharks. 

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You can also follow on Twitch 
where I will run polls and stuff

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throughout the week to see what 
you all would like to hear. 

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And also any questions, 
comments, anything like that, 

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feel free to send them my way as
well. 

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And turn on notifications for 
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next episode is out. 
And give us a rating on Apple or

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Spotify or anywhere else you 
listen. 

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And send this to anyone who will
listen to it because you know, 

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the more we grow, the more you 
get to hear my voice and more 

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about sharks. 
But I appreciate you all hanging

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out. 
Take care of yourselves. 

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Happy New Years and I will see 
you in the next one.

