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Hello and welcome back, Shark. 
Here's to another episode of 

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Deep Dives with Sharks. 
I am the host here, my name is 

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Alex and I appreciate your 
patience. 

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While I was absolutely just 
missing, I'd also like to 

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apologize a little bit if I 
sound a little bit raspy today. 

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I did just spend the weekend at 
a rock music festival called 

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Welcome to Rockville, so that 
was a really great show, which 

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was fun, but I might sound a 
little raspy because of that and

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I apologize. 
But I do appreciate your 

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patience and the messages and 
all your support. 

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Once again, when life got 
hectic, I was doing an 

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internship Monday through 
Wednesday and then working 

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Thursday through Sunday. 
Plus I had a class on top of 

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that so I'm impressed. 
I still got an episode out now 

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even though it was months apart,
which I apologize for, but it 

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was very hectic and it should 
slow down a little bit coming 

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up. 
I will still have my internship 

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starting back up after next 
week, and then I will also still

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be working Thursday through 
Sunday. 

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But I shouldn't have another 
class unless something went 

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wrong, in which case I'll have 
to take another class, which 

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we'll work it out, don't worry. 
But I do still want to try to 

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get episodes out to you guys, 
and these episodes do take a lot

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of research. 
So I was toying with the idea of

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trying to do sort of like an AMA
style or Ask Me Anything, 

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Although we do have to keep it 
PG because A my mother listens 

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and B there's lots of young 
shark. 

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Here's that listen as well. 
So we're going to keep things PG

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and just ask hopefully Shark 
related questions, but you can 

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also ask other related 
questions, things like that and 

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I'll see if you guys want to do 
that or not. 

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So keep an eye on the Instagram.
So that way I can put a pull up 

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for you guys and we can see if 
that's something you guys would 

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be interested in hearing. 
But I'm also got a couple ideas 

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I'm toying with. 
I'll probably reveal those a 

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little bit later depending on 
how consistent these episodes 

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come out, because if I'm not, if
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there's no reason to try to push
more, but we will see. 

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I'm also going to finally put 
out those episodes where I 

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review a couple shark related 
movies, which please keep 

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sending in those suggestions as 
well. 

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I do have notes done for two of 
them. 

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I just need to organize them so 
that way I can get those. 

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I was waiting to see if we are 
going to do a collaboration with

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another pot, but that one is 
currently on hiatus. 

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So I was kind of waiting to see 
if they were going to come back 

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together. 
And it's looking like for right 

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now they're going to stay gone 
for a little bit so we can add 

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them in a little bit later. 
For right now, I'm probably 

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going to release those somewhat 
soon. 

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So that way we have a little bit
of a makeup for while I was 

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gone. 
Also I do graduate in August so 

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then I should just only be 
working which will be very nice 

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and I will have more free time 
once again and should be able to

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push these out a little bit more
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incredible. 
But I also would like to give a 

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shout out to River W and his dad
Peter who are out in Perth who 

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many many, many months ago they 
sent me a very very lovely voice

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message through the app formerly
known as Anchor. 

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Now it is Spotify for podcasters
and it was an amazing way to 

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start out that day. 
I was so excited. 

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Also, I'm starstruck over you so
River, you are incredible, Sir. 

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It's amazing to have an eco 
warrior such as yourself as one 

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of the shark heroes. 
I consider that an absolute 

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honor. 
And also all the many amazing 

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shark heroes that are out there.
Just each and everyone of you 

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are so incredible. 
And it is amazing that I've got 

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people that listen to me all 
around the world. 

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And I'm absolutely honored that 
you were starstruck quote UN 

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quote that you were able to talk
to me, which is rather wild 

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because in my eyes, I am a 
person who just owned a 

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microphone and an Internet 
connection and found an app that

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I could talk about sharks. 
So it's pretty awesome. 

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I'm very happy to do that. 
Of course, please feel free to 

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reach out whenever you guys, any
of you can do that as well. 

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And I am more than happy to try 
to reply as fast as I can. 

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And I appreciate all the 
interaction I've had with you 

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guys. 
You all are so incredible now. 

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This intro is a little bit 
longer than usual, but we got 

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through and we're going to get 
on to the sharks. 

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But of course if you have any 
questions, comments, anything 

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like that, reach out to me on 
any of the social media over at 

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deep dives with sharks on 
Instagram or on Twitter and X it

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is at deep Dive sharks. 
So one thing that I wanted to 

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add to the correction corner or 
kind of just a fun fact that I 

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want to remind everyone of, is 
the fact that whale sharks are 

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considered carpet sharks. 
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fact that they lay on the bottom
like other carpet sharks do, 

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such as the wobi gong or the 
Angel shark, but more just 

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because of how they're put 
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So their fins are more off to 
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down like a great white shark. 
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they're built makes them a just 
gigantic carpet shark, which is 

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wild and for all we know they 
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We don't really observe them too
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So a neat thought, but going on 
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this week, it is going to be the
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Now the shark here is have 
impressed me once again as there

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are many sharks that I've at 
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second shark that was suggested 
that I didn't really know 

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anything about beforehand. 
The first one that was mentioned

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was the Angular rough shark, So 
please keep sending in your 

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suggestions 'cause there's so 
many sharks that I might not 

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have heard of and probably don't
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And I'm always incredibly 
excited to learn more about any 

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type of shark out there, even if
it's ones I thought I already 

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knew a lot about. 
Please keep sending them my way.

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But going into the Bramble 
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Some might even say they're 
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cylindrical body that has a 
short head with a blunt nose and

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it's not as wide as their mouth.
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just before their tail and a 
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have a longer square shaped 
pelvic fins, so they're kind of 

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just haphazardly thrown 
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It's wild. 
They really look like someone 

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started molding a shark out of 
clay and substituted the parts 

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of the shark they couldn't 
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then proceeded to drop it on its
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Tried to salvage it because the 
project was due in 5 minutes and

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we ended up with the Bramble 
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them. 
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different than other sharks as 
they do not have nictitating 

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membranes, which nicotine 
membranes are a third eyelid 

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that many animals have to help 
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maintaining vision can see. 
Some sharks have this When it 

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appears, their eye moves deeper 
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When they close or open the 
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see through it and you'll see. 
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frogs use this sometimes I think
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They might not, I'm not sure. 
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When you're watching shark, we 
go see their eye either set 

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further in or further out of 
their head, and that membrane 

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will protect it in case they 
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But to go to many sharks, these 
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but their fifth pair is their 
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They have a brownish blackish 
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that have a purplish hue due to 
how their denticles line up with

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a pair underbelly. 
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this purplish hue in certain 
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You look closely at them in 
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Usually the light catches their 
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that hue. 
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nurse sharks a little bit more 
down the line as they share many

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similarities. 
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picture of that hue as the last 
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aquarium there was a nurse shark
right up against the glass and 

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it had a beautiful purple hue 
coming off it with the light 

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hitting and it was great. 
I'll post a picture of it, don't

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worry, check the Instagram for 
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They have a layer of mucus on 
their skin that is said to smell

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absolutely foul, so that mix 
with their almost haphazardly 

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spaced denticles with some 
containing thorn like 

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structures, the shark has earned
a free spot on the list of 

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sharks I'd rather not pet. 
Sounds like it wouldn't be very 

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fun and they'd probably bite me,
so probably just don't pet 

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sharks at all. 
It probably wouldn't be the the 

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best idea. 
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to be about 10 to 10.2 feet long
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weigh up to 440 lbs or 200 
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The Bramble shark can be found 
across Europe down to 

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Mozambique, including the 
Mediterranean Sea, but a handful

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and Louisiana, just to name this
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In the US, we also have Brazil, 
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So they're kind of all over the 
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rather than being actually 
everywhere, which is 

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interesting. 
They enjoy depths of around 

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656.2 to 2952.8 feet or 2000 to 
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there. 
And Oh my goodness, the feet are

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really specific. 
They like continental shells as 

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well as deep waters that can 
produce cold water up wells that

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can create a lot of nutrients 
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availability. 
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sharks were becoming more active
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in previous new segments due to 
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from a trench bringing many 
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these nutrients. 
Well, sharks will show up to get

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those nutrients and of course 
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which then brings the Bramble 
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that upwelling. 
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come even shallower waters. 
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Sorry to follow up, follow these
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also be found to migrate to 
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summer and around some European 
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They have a smaller diet that 
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such as spiny dogfish and small 
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They have a rather large 
pharynix which is a muscular 

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tube in their throat, which has 
LED researchers to believe that 

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they hunt using suction, similar
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Suction feeding is a rather 
useful tool when you are a 

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bigger shark, especially if you 
don't move very fast. 

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But I imagine dying via suction 
feeding would be absolutely 

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horrifying, but also kind of 
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You're just going along and all 
of a sudden a vacuum sucks you 

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up and spits you out a bunch of 
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Absolutely crazy, but overall 
these sharks have been described

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as sluggish in nature which 
would help to have a suction 

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feeding style to trap their prey
and Bramble. 

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Sharks give live birth and give 
birth to anywhere from 15 to 52 

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pups at a time. 
Females have two uteruses or 

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uteri, which I looked both up 
and they are correct, but that 

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is just wild words to pronounce 
in general. 

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But having multiple do help to 
facilitate high numbers of these

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pups cause 52 is absolutely just
mind blowing. 

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It's crazy, but these sharks do 
pose a threat to humans as they 

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are often caught as bycatch or 
by sport fishermen in the 

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eastern Atlantic. 
And when they are in shallower 

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waters, they can encounter 
humans much more, which leads to

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more bites. 
It's kind of like we don't have 

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a whole lot of bites among 
sharks that are in the deep, 

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deep ocean, as there's not too 
many humans that are down there,

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or if there are, there's 
submarines and things and they 

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tend to not bite those as much. 
But we don't see the deep sea 

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sharks very close to shore. 
We see a lot of humans close to 

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shores. 
Sharks close to shore equals 

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more bites. 
But these guys are also using a 

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variety of products including 
fish meal, some oils for 

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medicine and other oils to coat 
boats, which it's rather wild to

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me, like I'm just going to go 
oil up my canoe or kayak with 

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shark oil real quick, don't mind
me, but I, you know to each 

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their own I guess. 
But that is what I have for the 

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Bramble shark. 
If you guys have any questions, 

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comments or feel that any messed
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correct that, please send that 
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than happy to add that to the 
next correction corner. 

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But going into Shark Safety this
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at how to respect sharks in 
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from a couple shark years. 
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to me did not want any credit 
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So you remain anonymous and if 
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Feel free to reach out to me and
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will be more than happy to shut 
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But the information I got here 
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you'd like more information you 
can go over there and check them

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out. 
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debated topic from the dawn of 
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if sharks should be kept in 
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from a young age sparked my love
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on TV or in a book would be able
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responsible and reliable when it
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longevity for them. 
We can learn so much from 

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animals in captivity that we 
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encountered them in the wild, 
and especially it's hard to find

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some specimens in the wild. 
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around Cancun, especially around
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of hard to keep track of them. 
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on them, who's to say that 
something's not going to happen 

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to that shark and we're not 
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more data? 
Plus, we can't observe behaviors

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and things like that, and it's 
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weight to it. 
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the Aza, which is the 
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aquariums that ensures that 
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and will shut down zoos or 
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proper standards in order to 
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Now just because a zoo is not 
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that they are abusing animals or
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So for example the Salisbury Zoo
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students at the local university
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go go goals but those that live 
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passing through can visit. 
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Shore, definitely recommend it. 
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when I was down there in school 
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accreditation not due to not 
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I believe it was a $6 million 
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husbandry for animal purposes, 
but they've been taking steps to

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regrain their accreditation and 
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A $6 million building is a 
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they were working on getting 
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upgrades to the zoo the last 
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require more assistance and 
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believe that zoos and aquariums 
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their life drastically. 
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false. 
Is there definitely zoos in the 

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world that have acquired their 
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would support the argument that 
zoos are not great, but everyone

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is entitled to their own opinion
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disagree with me and never step 
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And I'm not going to force you 
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wrong as evidence will always be
changing and for all I know, 

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everything I know could be wrong
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So all I ask is just to respect 
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as we all come from different 
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our opinion on it. 
But getting back on track, How 

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can you respect sharks that are 
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Most listening are not. 
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So in this case, all you can do 
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Now this means that you're going
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is AZ accredited and which ones 
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they're doing in order to get 
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want to get accredited, what 
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their animals. 
Case of the Salisbury Zoo they 

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had still they still followed 
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working with. 
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their animals without 
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care that should be added now. 
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they source their animals, their
animals, food, increase, their 

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education for the public support
captive breeding programs, 

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contribute to conservation and 
how they treat special species 

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as I call them now. 
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something like a white tiger 
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species as it is a tiger with 
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another tiger with albinism to 
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rare breed would continue. 
But now they've been inbred so 

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much that their skull is to 
break for their head, their eyes

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are almost always crossed and 
they can have a slew of medical 

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issues. 
You can also encourage your 

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local aquarium to conduct 
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that they want to acquire if 
they have been issues with them 

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in the past. 
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pushback when announcing they 
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we're at one point one of two 
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house them. 
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further, it was determined they 
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than they currently had. 
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research to advance the 
understanding of this relatively

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unknown species and promoted 
education among the public to 

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understand that species. 
So to make it brief and 

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succinct. 
Research institutions that you 

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want to visit and support and 
encourage the advancement of 

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animal care in any setting by 
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Supporting institutions that 
meet the standards of the animal

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care that you feel are necessary
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Now sidebar. 
When talking to keepers, 

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remember to be respectful. 
They can't control the quality 

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of of care decisions that higher
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If they tell you something 
surprising, you can ask For more

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information. 
But do not take frustrations out

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on them. 
Ask them to speak out against 

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their higher ups or accuse them 
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They're trying to do their same 
their job the same way that the 

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rest of us are going back to the
Georgia Aquarium a little bit as

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well. 
They also got their whale sharks

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from what would have been a fish
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Given the two options, would 
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food? 
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captivity, you know, I'd rather 
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And many zoos and aquariums are 
still working on these 

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accreditations and even if they 
don't have them, are treating 

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their animals well. 
Accreditations are constantly 

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changing and evolving. 
This one also give a shout out 

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to Zoo Tampa. 
I believe they just reached 25 

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years of accreditation, which is
incredible. 

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ZA works all around the world. 
They've also worked to shut 

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down. 
I believe it was there was like 

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a aquarium over on the eastern 
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I can't remember exactly where 
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I think it was somewhere in 
Miami. 

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They they shut that one down or 
they helped to get public outcry

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to shut it down because they 
were really doing not great with

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taking care of their animals. 
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them would rehouse somewhere. 
Another one that gets a lot of 

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Flack is SeaWorld. 
Now, I myself have never been to

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SeaWorld, and of course some 
horrible, horrible things have 

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occurred there. 
But there are many things that 

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are going on to try to increase 
the care that that is given to 

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animals there. 
Some of you may never want to 

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step foot in SeaWorld and may 
feel that you hate it. 

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I'm not going to push your 
decision one way or another. 

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I myself have not been there. 
I'm curious, but I'm not sure if

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I'm going to go. 
There's many different things to

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play here. 
Another thing as well, the 

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Baltimore Aquarium as well, just
to talk about them for the 8 

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millionth time. 
But they are currently building 

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a sanctuary out in the Bahamas 
for their dolphins, I believe I 

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saw. 
And they're eventually going to 

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take all their dolphins and put 
them out over into the Bahamas, 

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back in the wild, which is 
great. 

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And they're going to make sure 
that they have an area where 

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they'll still be safe and 
monitored. 

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So that way they're not just 
going to throw an animal that 

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was bred in captivity back into 
the wild because they tried that

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with I believe it was Tilikum 
back and not the Baltimore cram.

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I I think it was seaward if 
someone did that with Tilikum 

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way back years ago and they 
ended up dying in the wild 

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because they didn't know how to 
hunt or anything like that. 

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So there are instances where 
aquariums are going to be more 

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helpful than they are going to 
be hurtful. 

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So that's just something I want 
you all to consider and once 

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again, I don't have an answer. 
Our aquariums good, Are they 

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bad? 
I feel that they're good. 

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I feel that we should keep going
to them, but I also don't have 

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answers to, well, what about 
breeding and captivity and 

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things like that. 
Those will be things that we 

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have to look into, but 
respecting the animals is going 

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to come down to looking into 
each institution that you want 

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to visit individually. 
Of course there's going to be 

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some you get excited and go to, 
and usually you're going to find

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they're doing a good job anyway.
For the most part. 

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Many zoos and aquariums do want 
to do a good job and keep these 

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animals safe and healthy, but as
I mentioned, there are many that

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do not, so there's going to be 
different things to look into. 

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Just try to look into it before 
you get there. 

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If it's not very great, one of 
the things you can do is voice 

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your complaints to wherever 
their comment box is. 

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Sometimes, unfortunately, that's
a paper shredder and they don't 

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care. 
But trying to cause a big stir 

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in public outcry isn't always 
the best idea. 

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Sometimes it's just alerting the
proper organization reaching out

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to the Aza. 
Things like that might be the 

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most helpful, but that is also 
something to look further into. 

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But that is why I had for the 
shark safety portion. 

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It wasn't a whole bunch of 
safety. 

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One thing I'll add is, of 
course, don't try jumping into 

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the tanks at the aquariums and 
stuff like that. 

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Usually they won't bother you 
because they're not hungry, but 

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also the same time. 
Like don't just jump into the 

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tank. 
That's weird. 

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Don't do that. 
Another thing, if you don't feel

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like an animal is being a touch 
tank, talk to the person working

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there. 
They might be able to tell you 

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something different. 
So ask questions, do research, 

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and that is the best way you can
respect animals that are in 

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captivity in general. 
So there we are, but if you guys

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have any questions, comments, 
I'm personally not going to 

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debate anyone hardcore on 
whether or not they're good or 

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bad. 
You are more than entitled to 

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have that opinion, and if you 
want to talk more about it, I'm 

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more than happy to. 
But I'm not looking to argue 

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with anyone is my main point 
there. 

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But of course you guys have any 
questions, anything like that, 

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feel free to send them over on 
the Instagram or the Twitter. 

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Slash X. 
Now going on to the shark news 

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now there are a couple ones that
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So the first one is going to be 
the latest update on the 

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pregnant North Carolina Stingray
who shared an aquarium tank with

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sharks. 
And this one came from George on

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Instagram. 
And this one also I got my 

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information from The Charlotte 
Observer. 

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Now a lot of you may have heard 
about this. 

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So to fill in those who have 
not, a round Stingray in a North

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Carolina aquarium was pregnant 
with five pups despite not 

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sharing a tank with a male in 
over 8 years. 

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There are however 5 male sharks 
in her enclosure and she did 

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have bite marks which could 
indicate mating. 

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Could also indicate that she 
spooked a shark and got bit out 

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of a reaction which can also 
happen. 

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Now this really blew up because 
TikTok went wild with this one, 

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with some users claiming that 
there will be a new shark ray 

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breed while others are saying 
that we have the first Ray Jesus

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God I love that app which is not
sarcastic. 

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It eats up too much of my time, 
but experts have stated that the

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DNA is not close enough to allow
species to successfully breed 

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together. 
What is more likely is what 

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bamboo sharks have done in the 
past, which is it would be 

453
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stored the male reproductive 
needs for long periods of time 

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and fertilize the eggs at a 
later date. 

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Now the babies have not come yet
as of last check, so I might 

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need to double check that again.
So we do not have a deaf a 

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definitive answer, but it's 
looking like we're just going to

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have ray babies. 
Experts could be wrong though, 

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we could find out something 
completely new. 

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As I mentioned earlier, 
information and research is 

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always changing. 
For all we know, there could be 

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some species that can 
interbreed. 

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We'll find out. 
But going on we have the great 

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white sighting may reveal a Holy
Grail of shark science. 

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And this was sent to me by Zion.
I hope I'm saying your name 

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right. 
Sorry if I am not, but I got 

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this information from CN. 
Now a 5 foot great white shark 

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was spotted off the coast of 
California a few weeks ago. 

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Probably now a couple months 
ago. 

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As some of you may be thinking, 
OK cool, why is that important? 

471
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And I'm glad you asked because 
we see great whites all over 

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there now. 
Great whites also grow to be 

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pretty freaking big. 
Some can get up to 16 to 24 

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feet, so a 5 foot shark is a 
tiny one. 

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It's also very pale in color, 
which most Gray whites are, Gray

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on top and white at the bottom. 
They can eat embryo white in the

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womb and milk secreted from the 
mother. 

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So this shark was also shedding 
a white layer, which could have 

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been the embryonic coating, 
meaning it's a fresh newborn. 

480
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But why is that so exciting? 
Because it hasn't happened 

481
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before. 
This will be the first filming 

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or maybe even sighting of a 
newborn great white. 

483
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,040
This could also simply be a case
of a white sorry, just having a 

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shark with a skin disorder, but 
the size and location of a known

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00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,280
popping ground for pregnant 
great whites indicates could be 

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a newborn. 
Now this is currently being 

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00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,680
debated by shark experts at some
say it's purely speculation, 

488
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,320
while others say it's incredibly
fascinating. 

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No matter what, it's still 
really cool to see and the fact 

490
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that it's even a possibility is 
just amazing. 

491
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,280
And This is why I love looking 
to sharks. 

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But that is what I had for this 
episode. 

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I want to thank you all for 
listening once again. 

494
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,040
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Sharks or Twitter slash X at 
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00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,400
I run polls stuff throughout the
week, see what y'all would like 

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to hear, send any comments, 
questions or anything of the 

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And lastly give us a rating on 

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Share with anyone who will 

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listen and not sure when I'll be
back. 

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I'll do my best to keep 
interacting with everyone. 

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I'm just going to send out the 
next couple episodes of the next

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couple weeks. 
So that way we'll have the movie

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00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,080
reviews, things like that. 
And I'll see if you guys want to

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know a little bit more about me.
So we'll find out. 

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But you all take care, be kind 
to each other and I will see you

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in the next one.
