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Be honest, if nothing changed, 
would you be happy with your 

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life one year from now? 
Like same job, same relationship

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patterns, same everything. 
Like would it actually feel 

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good? 
Don't answer out loud, just 

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notice how your body feels. 
This episode is a mirror and 

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it's also a road map. 
This is one of our most shared 

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episodes because it gives a way 
for you to get honest and be 

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honest without blowing up your 
entire life. 

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And we're bringing it back right
now because this is the time 

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where people are making the 
decisions that shape their next 

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year. 
We heard from you guys and you 

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said that this episode changed 
your lives, so we're bringing it

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back for the new year. 
And this applies to anyone, no 

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matter where you are in your 
journey, stop settling. 

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Hi, Tiger fam, I'm Cherie. 
And I'm Jean. 

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We are your Wall Street and 
Silicon Valley Big Sisters. 

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And we're a top business podcast
that talks about money, power 

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and love. 
So the new year is here, and 

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this is such an important time 
to take stock of your life and 

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see where you're settling. 
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new year is kind of a 
crossroads. 

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You can either take all of your 
old habits and all of your ways 

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of being from the previous year 
and just roll it into the new 

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year, or this is an opportunity 
to go down a new path. 

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OK, so mini exercise right 
before we get started, take 10 

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seconds and rate yourself in 
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The first number that comes to 
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So rate your alignment one to 10
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identity. 
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Anything under 7 is actually a 
yellow flag, but it doesn't mean

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you have to panic. 
It's more so just data that you 

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can take in for yourself. 
It's a good exercise to check in

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with yourself because then you 
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misaligned you are in those 
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Yeah. 
And actually my favorite 

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framework is the 12 month 
projection framework where you 

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think ahead and you say if I 
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continue on this path in 12 
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We use that self reflection 
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of our decision making, like in 
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relationships. 
So as you're listening, don't 

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just nod along. 
Pick one exercise and do it. 

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OK, let's get into it. 
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talk about is the symptoms of 
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Yeah, I think a lot of times 
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something that's like, really 
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you feel terrible, but it 
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straight misery. 
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like you're in a job that you 
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dating someone that looks 
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actually great, or you're 
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peace. 
It's fine. 

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Everything's fine. 
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Review article, 85% of people 
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disengaged at work. 
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that's people waking up, going 
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it a career. 
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Yeah, I think that's very common
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They basically choose something 
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kind of the equivalent of 
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they're kind of killing off 
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Is that dramatic? 
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It's been very dramatic. 
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If you're like looking back on 
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settling, don't you feel like, 
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So the mini exercise is think 
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would you be happy with where 
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like shrinking away from the 
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means you're settling. 
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about why women and men settle. 
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especially women, are trained to
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that. 
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studies that support this. 
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for me is most recently in 2020,
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women and basically how they put
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underestimate their readiness 
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objectively for all the women in
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outperforming their male peers. 
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opportunity for women, a lot of 
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lack of self belief, which is 
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patriarchal systems. 
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And I think the really hard part
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hearing that study is that 
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dramatic thing that you see in 
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personal life. 
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drift into settling and not 
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until you're actually there. 
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it's even more dangerous. 
Nefarious. 

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settling until you watch this 
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settling? 
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uncomfortable thing, like an 
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have with your friends too. 
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outside, if you see one of your 
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workplace or in their like 
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relationship, it's also a really
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So I don't think it's like 
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Way no one would ever call 
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I mean it's even like a harder 
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have with yourself. 
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this concept called value drift.
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people slowly disconnect with 
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they don't even realize it, but 
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effects, which are burnout, 
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So have you ever called me out 
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Not that I can remember, but it 
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Well, I mean, not not like 
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always like, pushed you to do 
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to do at times, right? 
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I feel like that's me not 
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understanding my potential and 
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I don't settle. 
I'm just kidding like some I 

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have in relationships when I 
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thought this was a good thing on
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in reality it wasn't exactly 
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I I can think of one time I sort
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Ish. 
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Would you OK? 
I'm nervous. 

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Maybe this is again, back to the
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after you had gotten into 
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already LinkedIn. 
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And you had the whole summer and
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offer to work at Bain Capital 
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hello, this is incredible. 
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know, like I was planning to 
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Create content Yes, I wanted to 
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time I thought you. 
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started to like, experiment and 
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But I think to my take at the 
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is an incredible way to create 
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Like once you have this 
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what an amazing way to, you 
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world like what it's like to do 
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Yeah, no, I think that's that's 
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possible. 
Have you ever called me out? 

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Do you know what I'm going to 

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say? 
No, maybe. 

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I don't know. 
I've only called Gina out once 

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in her life. 
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If you see a friend or someone 
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it is. 
And the reason why I said it's a

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hard conversation is because 
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you don't want them to feel any 
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something up. 
That might be like a really hard

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truth to swallow. 
Especially when it's a Type 1 

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irreversible decision, which we 
talked about on one of our other

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episodes. 
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So it was in her last 
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things, I observed some things 
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Jean. 
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And only like maybe once or 
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It wasn't something I brought up
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how the importance and the 
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navigate the situation very 
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So I did bring up and settling 
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but that's how I felt in the 
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So I brought it up to you and 
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Do you phrase it? 
I don't remember. 

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This is coming from a place of 
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I see some things after like, 
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with you and this other person. 
And here are some things that I 

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just don't think are are good 
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objective as I can be. 
And I think you deserve more and

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better. 
And it was really, really tough 

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for me to say and I think even 
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settling it's and you want to 
bring it up, you don't want, you

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don't want to be wrong. 
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And like, yeah, yeah. 
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you're like, I think you're 
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you're about to marry and they 
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Them. 
That was a close one. 

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That was a close one. 
We did get engaged. 

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Yeah, but like that's also just 
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Like that's not a good 
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conversation to have. 
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of saying like, not that I don't
trust you, but I you might have 

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a blind spot. 
That's what was really hard 

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about it. 
I trust you to make the 

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decision, but this is something 
you might not see that I'm 

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seeing from the outside. 
That's why it was hard. 

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I mean, it's also hard in 
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something they don't want to 
confront about themselves. 

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I mean, it's, it must be, yeah. 
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Fun. 
Times. 

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Really fun times. 
So yeah, this podcast is real 

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personal. 
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It was a happy ending in the 
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And I think another reason why, 
like myself and a lot of people 

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don't actually confront it is 
because it's been shown that 

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high achievers are very good at 
rationalizing. 

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And so I wrote down some of the 
lines that people say. 

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So I'm lucky to have this. 
It's not that bad. 

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Everyone would kill for this job
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So like if you've ever heard 

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yourself saying those those 
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thinking them in your head, it 
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you're settling and you're not 
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And I think it's really hard. 

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One thing that we talked about a
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if everything looks good from 
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right on paper, yes. 
If everything you know is like, 

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beautiful and like, shiny and 
Instagramable, yeah, it's even 

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harder to let that go because 
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dissonance of like, it looks 
good, but it doesn't. 

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Feel good? 
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And what do other people think 
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OK, so I have another example 
that is not about my love life, 

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it's about my work life. 
Can you make it about your love 

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life? 
Just kidding. 

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You know, so my other example is
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I had, you know, worked 15 years
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dream job. 
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know, five years ago, 10 years 
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head of product for augmented 
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monetization at Snapchat, I 
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like what? 
That's insane. 

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That's my dream job. 
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Like 85% of the worldwide 
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disengaged, according to Harvard
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But no, it's it was crazy. 
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reconcile it with myself 
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You worked so hard to get there 
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Worked so hard to get there. 
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just to like, tell people what 
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make things happen, etcetera, 
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deep down, but again, I wasn't 
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because of the pay, because I'd.
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hard to get there. 
Some cost. 

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you've been working so hard to 
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it's just like, now what? 
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get there, too. 
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Wasn't going to say it again, 
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Yeah. 
And we have a mini exercise to 

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help you figure out if you're 
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So the mini exercise for this 
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I'm scared to walk away because 

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where you've tied your worth and
once you name and label it, it 

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can make it much easier to 
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settling. 
OK, so Next up is the science of

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why we stay too long. 
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And we're back. 
So let's talk about a term 

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called cognitive dissonance, 
which was first coined in a 1957

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Stanford study. 
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you have in your mind and your 
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align with your values. 
So when you value growth but you

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stay in a job that you hate or a
relationship that you know 

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that's not right for you, your 
body and your brain signals 

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distress. 
That's why you get irritable. 

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That's why you have anxiety. 
It's literally your body telling

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you something is not right here.
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And the question of why we stay 
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So fear of regret, some cost 
fallacy and external validation.

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Like everyone thinks this job is
so amazing, Like everyone thinks

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my relationship is so great. 
Those are like the main reasons.

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So one way to think about it, if
you're afraid of leaving, what 

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if you were afraid of staying? 
It could be much more scary or 

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dangerous in the long term. 
So next we have another mini 

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exercise and I'm really excited 
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OK, So this one is to rate your 
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in three different areas, 
career, relationships and your 

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personal identity. 
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actually a beige to red flag to 
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This is actually something that 
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It's not like a monthly 
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I try to do it every three 
months or every quarter just to 

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feel like, to ask myself, like, 
am I In Sync with what's going 

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on in my life? 
Is everything like in 

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homeostasis? 
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Like sometimes I'm feeling like,
you know, in my relationship, 

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I'm not like 100. 
I'm not like 10 out of 10. 

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If I am a 7 out of 10, like, 
then I like, I'm like, wait, why

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do I even feel that way? 
Like, what is the reason? 

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And I can dig deeper. 
Excuse me, God bless you. 

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And I can dig deeper if I have 
like the mental capacity to, the

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time to and the willingness to. 
And that's OK if I don't right 

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at that point, but it's just 
making sure I ask myself. 

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Excuse me, she can dig deeper. 
Dig deeper. 

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I didn't. 
I didn't realize you did it so 

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often. 
Yeah. 

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You must be in the like top 1% 
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Probably. 
Who are like re evaluating 

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themselves if you do it every 
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But yeah, I don't even need this
mini exercise. 

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It sounds like a lot, but it 
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It doesn't have to be like you 
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half and like journal for all 
that time and meditate. 

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No, it's kind of just like 
asking yourself like, am I happy

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in my career right now And like 
being OK that like the answer 

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can be no and it doesn't have to
be like yes, I'm so happy all 

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the time. 
Like life is great. 

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Like it's OK that the answer is 
no, but then asking yourself 

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afterwards, like a follow up, 
like why is it no? 

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Like are there things that I can
because I want to be happy? 

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Are there things that I can do 
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of my control? 
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Like it's OK to ask those 
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answer that you're not satisfied
with. 

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Right. 
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So just like the mini exercise, 
I just described that, that's 

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what I'm saying. 
I like doing that. 

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Yeah, that's cool. 
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It's something you are already 
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Yeah, as a practice in your 
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OK, so now we've talked about 

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the symptoms of settling, why 
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for too long. 
Now let's talk about how to know

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if it's actually time to move 
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So you know it's time to move on
when you ask yourself these 

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three questions. 
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me only exist to serve other 
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this? 
These are pretty intense 

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questions. 
They're big questions, yeah. 

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And what if the answer is no? 
Then you have your answer, and I

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think that's a very good thing 
to understand about yourself. 

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These are not questions I think 
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It's scary, but it's only for 
the better that you know. 

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And actually, we have this great
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think she probably asked herself
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Reese Witherspoon who founded 
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company that we really look up 
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Tiger Sisters can eventually be 

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in that ilk. 
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that she obviously was this 
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commercially successful actor, 
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threw that all away to start 
Hello Sunshine because she 

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wanted to create roles and 
wanted to work with people that 

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were telling stories that she 
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So like mostly women? 
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story of Hello Sunshine one 
because it's super successful 

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now. 
So it's like fun to look at a 

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success story, but also that it 
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Kind of like a problem that 
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like, there weren't roles that 
she was getting that she wanted 

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to play. 
And so if that's not in the 

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environment that she's in, she 
created an environment and 

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created a game that she wanted 
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And I think that's so cool, 
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So she was like, I want to 
create this version of Hollywood

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that I want to be in. 
Like she was like, we're getting

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away from the place that I want 
to work. 

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Yeah, she was anti settling. 
Yeah. 

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You know, she, she like, 
realized that it was not what 

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she wanted and she did something
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like a massively successful 
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Yeah, it actually reminds me of 
this other like concept I'll 

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just talk about really quickly, 
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zone of excellence versus zone 
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So she obviously was in her zone
of excellence because she was an

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award-winning actor, but she 
wasn't in her zone of genius 

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because she wasn't doing 
something that she really like, 

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cared about and wanted to 
dedicate her life to. 

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So she sort of like, threw it 
all away and started anew, doing

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something she'd never done 
before. 

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Be a founder, be a producer, be 
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It's really incredible. 
And on this idea of zone of 

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excellence, I think it sounds 
like a good thing, but it can be

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quietly like nefarious. 
Because if you are really good 

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at something and it looks shiny,
kind of like we were saying 

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before, shiny and good on the 
outside, you're like excelling 

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in a field that other people are
looking up to you for. 

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But if you do not feel fulfilled
or feel like you are in your 

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zone of genius at the same time,
it can be really easy to then 

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settle. 
One quote I like is sometimes 

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power means letting go of the 
thing you've built to build 

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something even bigger. 
And I think the reason I like it

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is because it's about you. 
It's about me. 

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I feel like that's what I've 
done. 

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Like I sort of threw away this 
15 year long, really successful 

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corporate career to start over 
with just the two of us and 

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build this thing that I've never
done before, like I'd never been

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on camera before this. 
Hopefully I'm doing OK job. 

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Leave a comment below. 
Please give her success like 

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give her comments. 
Give her. 

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Compliments and comments on how 
she's, you know, doing well. 

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They mean a lot and she reads 
all of them honestly. 

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I really do. 
She needs the help with the 

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validation. 
I do the validation, but yeah, 

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that's what it really resonates 
with me, that one. 

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So the last mini exercise for 
this video is to write a letter 

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to yourself, but imagine that 
it's coming from you five years 

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in the future. 
What did she have to let go of 

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to become who she is now? 
And I really like this exercise.

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This is just like write a mini 
letter doesn't have to be long. 

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I've done a couple of like 
meditation and like 

455
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,320
manifestation exercises, yes, 
where I literally like close my 

456
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eyes and I imagine myself in the
future. 

457
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I imagine what I look like. 
I imagine the house that I'm in,

458
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,800
I'm in. 
It's an amazing exercise and it 

459
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was a guided meditation and it 
like made me like burst out into

460
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,960
tears because your future self 
is asking your current your way.

461
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,440
So your current self is asking 
your future self a bunch of 

462
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,320
questions and future me is so 
knowledgeable. 

463
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,800
She's calm and she's. 
Amazing skin. 

464
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Confident and it's really 
powerful to do this exercise 

465
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because then you can kind of see
what can be if you are not 

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afraid of going out of your 
comfort zone and doing, you know

467
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the hard reflections that we've 
kind of prompted you guys to do 

468
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,720
in this video. 
So I think if you can write a 

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letter to yourself, imagine kind
of your greatness, like step 

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into that power. 
Imagine your greatness in five 

471
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years because it's there. 
It's like you have all the 

472
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answers with it within you, 
inside you. 

473
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Do that exercise and I think 
you'll you'll learn some things 

474
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about yourself that you might 
not realize like this very 

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second. 
Should Sharif be a motivational 

476
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,960
speaker? 
That was really good, isn't? 

477
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:06,120
It yeah, I believe in, I think 
these exercises are so helpful 

478
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:07,800
for mindset. 
Yeah, yeah. 

479
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,440
And feeling grounded and 
realizing what you want. 

480
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,800
Yeah. 
OK. 

481
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,720
And the very last part is just 
some really quick practical 

482
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steps to stop settling. 
You don't need to blow up your 

483
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entire life, but you do need to 
start listening to your 

484
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,560
intuition and your gut. 
And you could do this with just 

485
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starting with micro moves, 
doesn't have to be a huge thing.

486
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So you can book an exploratory 
call or ask yourself these 

487
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,840
uncomfortable questions from the
many exercises. 

488
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,960
Or, you know, spend an hour 
acting like the version of 

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yourself who knows exactly what 
she wants. 

490
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I think if you're watching this 
episode and you decided to open 

491
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this up, like I think your gut 
already knows that you are 

492
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,640
settling in some part of your 
life, Let this episode give you 

493
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,480
permission to do something about
it. 

494
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,360
Like I think it's even worse to 
just sit back, feel that you're 

495
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,560
settling, know that you're 
settling and literally not do 

496
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,840
anything about it. 
Like take one of these many 

497
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exercises. 
Maybe it's 5 minutes, maybe it's

498
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,280
10 minutes. 
Like think about it and then do 

499
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000
something to then kind of bring 
yourself like give yourself a 

500
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,480
little momentum to like take the
first step to get unstuck and 

501
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,040
then to stop settling. 
I'm going to give the listeners 

502
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,280
a little bit of grace actually, 
and say that like a lot of 

503
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,480
times, sometimes I think the 
hardest thing to do is actually 

504
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,480
admit to yourself that you're 
settling. 

505
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,800
Like, I think for me, that's a 
step that took years in some 

506
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,880
cases perhaps. 
And so I think if that's 

507
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,040
something that you haven't even 
done yet, that might be the most

508
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,720
important thing that you can do.
That is sort of the the output 

509
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,400
or the next step of this 
episode, right? 

510
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,640
Like actually admit it to 
yourself and like fully embody 

511
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,080
that. 
And then like bookmark the 

512
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,160
episode. 
Come back to the episode in a 

513
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,360
few days or a week, or once 
you've like really settled with 

514
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,800
that sort of realization in your
body, come back to the episode 

515
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,600
and then do all the mini 
exercises. 

516
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,440
What is this good cop, bad cop? 
Why did I have? 

517
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,440
Why did I have to give the tough
love? 

518
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,000
And then you have to give the 
nice advice so. 

519
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,640
Next time I'll give a tough 
love. 

520
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,440
OK, It's just our styles. 
You're mean and I'm nice. 

521
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,920
No. 
Yeah. 

522
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,520
And so I mean, be that as it 
may, like, yes, I was just the 

523
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,960
good cop, but I do still want to
say and give some realism here 

524
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,040
that like, think about yourself 
in a year, in five years, in 10 

525
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,000
years, if you're looking back 
and you're like, hey, I'm still 

526
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000
in the same place in this 
specific area that I feel like 

527
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,720
I've been settling. 
Would you be happy with 

528
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,400
yourself? 
No, right. 

529
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,640
So take whatever first step it 
is for you, whether it's 

530
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,800
actually acknowledging to 
yourself that you're settling or

531
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,840
doing all these mini exercises 
and taking the action to break 

532
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,360
out of your sort of settling 
mode and and do it today. 

533
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,840
I think the scariest thing is a 
future of regret, regret for 

534
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,880
having not done something. 
So I think today is probably the

535
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,720
day to like, if you feel like 
you are stuck or you are 

536
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,600
settling, like do something 
today. 

537
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,360
Take that first step so that you
don't feel that regret in the 

538
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,640
next year, in five years and in 
10 years. 

539
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,120
And honestly, with with hard 
things like getting unstuck, 

540
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,680
it's not going to be easy. 
It's gonna get like life gets 

541
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,560
hard when you make a big change 
in your life, life gets harder 

542
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,640
before it gets easier. 
If you need to go through a 

543
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840
breakup, going through that 
process says going through a 

544
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000
breakup, life sucks for a little
bit and then it gets easier. 

545
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,040
If you're changing jobs, life 
sucks for a little bit and then 

546
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,920
it gets easier. 
And so I realized it is going to

547
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,120
be hard. 
But that's something you should 

548
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,680
confront now because in the next
year, five year, 10 years, you 

549
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,240
won't regret it. 
Thank you for that, Cherie. 

550
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,760
And don't do this alone. 
A lot of people, well, Gene and 

551
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,200
I have like personal board of 
advisors. 

552
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,480
So that like when we're, you 
know, having these existential 

553
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,880
questions which are pretty hard 
to answer, like you can call 

554
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,280
someone up, call a friend up, 
have this conversation with 

555
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,840
them. 
And also, as we said before, we 

556
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,800
read every single comment and 
we'd love to see, you know, some

557
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,720
of you guys move through these 
mini exercises, any questions 

558
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,040
that you guys have and how 
you're thinking through these 

559
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,280
things. 
And we'll read through them and 

560
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,680
try to answer as many as 
possible. 

561
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,320
Yeah. 
Treat the comments section like 

562
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,040
your board of advisors. 
True. 

563
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,240
Thank you guys so much for 
tuning in to this episode of The

564
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,240
Tiger Sisters. 
If you found it helpful, please 

565
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,360
make sure to like, comment, and 
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566
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,560
And when you subscribe, you get 
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567
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,680
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Yes, and if you have some 

568
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,680
friends who you think they might
be settling or playing small or 

569
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,960
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would just want to share Tiger 

570
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,920
Sisters with them, then please 
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571
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,800
And we'd so appreciate it if you
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572
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It takes literally 3 seconds and

573
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,280
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574
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,720
Yes, and if you have 10 seconds,
actually write a review, because

575
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,200
I've heard that those also make 
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576
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,840
deciding to listen to the 
episodes. 

577
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,320
Thanks guys. 
We'll see you next time. 

578
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,000
Thanks. 
Bye. 

579
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,480
OK. 
So watching that episode, it's 

580
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,520
kind of crazy to see because 
it's still so relevant. 

581
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,000
Yeah, In the last six months, 
I've been so much better at kind

582
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,040
of catching myself when I'm 
settling, even when it's 

583
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,080
something really small. 
Like I'm just being like, oh, 

584
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,000
like this is fine. 
And I'm just being sort of like 

585
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,120
non confrontational now. 
I notice it ever since we did 

586
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,480
this episode. 
And one of the biggest things 

587
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,840
that I've learned since 
recording this episode is that 

588
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,080
your body feels it before your 
brain does, like that cognitive 

589
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,960
dissonance, uncomfortable 
feeling that lets you know that 

590
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,720
you're actually settling. 
So if you felt kind of like a 

591
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,280
tightness in your chest or just 
like a little bit uncomfortable 

592
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160
as you were listening to this 
episode, take note of that. 

593
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,360
That is information you can act 
on. 

594
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,440
And don't ignore that 
information or that data from 

595
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,960
yourself. 
And if you're listening in 

596
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,040
January, take advantage of that 
clean slate energy. 

597
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Pick one exercise from the 
episode and and do it this week.

598
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,920
And like we mentioned in the 
episode, make sure you're 

599
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,960
subscribed to Tiger Sisters and 
you leave us a five star review.

600
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,320
It only takes a few seconds to 
do and it really helps with the 

601
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,280
growth and survival of Tiger 
Sisters podcast. 

602
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,520
And next week, we're back with a
brand new episode to kick off 

603
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,400
the season. 
We'll see you then. 

604
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Bye.
