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I'm Lynn Smith and welcome to 
the Bigfoot Project. 

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Grab a blanket, turn down the 
lights, and settle in for 

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another journey into the 
mysteries of the wilderness. 

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I'm a Native American and a 
contactee of interdimensional 

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beings and my recent sighting 
was a Bigfoot and this is my 

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eyewitness story of what I've 
seen. 

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I'm walking alone in the 
northern boreal forest of Canada

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and I've always haunted on this 
trail and I'm an experienced 

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hunter and haunted in different 
ways such as archery and 

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slingshot trapping and tracking 
and stalking. 

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I have a very good eye and 6th 
sense. 

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But on June 21st 2020 I was 
running on this trail in the 

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forest but I was alone and 
unarmed and as I was running on 

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the trail I felt something was 
nearby that he detected. 

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With my psychic abilities. 
I knew this was an intelligent 

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creature because it started out 
as wood knocks but I saw this 

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stick on the ground so I picked 
it up to fight this life form. 

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I heard and as I scanned the 
area with my eyes where I heard 

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the tree knocking. 
As I got closer I saw an outline

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of a human being but I could see
through this being and I saw it 

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ran off into the thick Bush. 
My fight or flight mode kicked 

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in. 
I ran after this being as I was 

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running towards this invisible 6
1/2 foot creature. 

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I threw away the stick because 
this thing is invisible and fast

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and quiet, but I was fearless. 
This being ran for me at a very 

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fast speed, faster than human, 
I'll say, but I chased it off 

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into the Bush. 
But I lost it then. 

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The direction I seen at last 
went was near my hometown 

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reserve, and the reserve dogs 
were barking at this thing I've 

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seen. 
It ran in that direction and I 

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returned home safely without 
being followed. 

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I had dreams about Sasquatch the
next morning and the next, but 

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I'm alive and well to tell my 
experience in full detail. 

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Shade in Alphonse This next 
story was emailed to Bigfoot 

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Case Files by Ted Sawyers. 
Back in the summer of 2002. 

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Ted, his wife Jenny, and their 
daughter Lauren were camping 

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with Ted's younger brother Mike 
in the forest near Sisters OR. 

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They both had deer tags for the 
Metullius unit and were scouting

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the area for deer on the second 
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While planning the next day's 
excursions, Ted remembered a 

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great location where he had 
camped previously where there 

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was a major game trail going 
over the Ridge. 

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Mike decided to check out that 
area the next morning with his 

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wife. 
The next afternoon they all met 

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back at camp and Mike reported 
that they had something strange 

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happen while they were up there 
exploring the game trail. 

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He told Ted that as they were 
walking suddenly about 50 yards 

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or so up the trail, they noticed
that a 25 foot tree was being 

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shaken violently, but they 
didn't see anything that could 

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have caused the tree to shake. 
They both agreed that it must 

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have been a bear as they were 
not sure what else it could have

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been. 
The next morning, Mike and his 

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wife decided to go back and 
check it out, while Ted and his 

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family decided to explore some 
nearby caves. 

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When they returned to camp, 
Mike's tent and all their 

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belongings were gone. 
All that was left was a note 

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saying that they had run into 
Bigfoot and they were heading 

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home. 
Mike explained to Ted what 

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happened the next day on the 
phone after everyone had 

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returned home. 
He said that they had made it to

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the tree that was being shaken 
and were looking for tracks when

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he heard some brush rustle 
toward the top of the hill. 

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When he looked up, a boulder the
size of a basketball was flying 

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through the air toward them and 
landed on the trail in front of 

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them, shaking the ground as it 
hit. 

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At this moment, he said that. 
Every hair on the. 

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Back of his neck was standing on
end before he could say anything

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to his wife. 
Here comes another rock similar 

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in size and this time the 
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He explained when this happened,
fear had taken over and he could

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feel his back tense up. 
And here comes the third rock 

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landing to their right as well. 
Then he raised his 22 rifle and 

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shot 3 times over the area where
the rocks were coming from. 

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He shouted is anybody up there? 
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Mike had an eerie feeling and he
yelled to his wife, let's go 

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before we die. 
After talking with his brothers 

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about his experience, a plan was
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area soon and find out what the 
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The following Saturday they 
loaded for bear. 

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Ted had a 22 Meg pistol and a 
270 rifle and an Arkansas 

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toothpick for Eucity Slickers, 
that's a large knife. 

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Mike had a 300 Wetherby Meg, a 
22 Meg pistol as well as a 

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knife, and both had pockets full
of bullets. 

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They loaded up the Suburban with
all their gear, plus their wives

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and all the kids and headed out 
early Saturday morning, arriving

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around 7:00 AM. 
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calm, no wind, birds chirping, 
squirrels playing, and the sun 

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coming up in the east. 
Ted and Mike grabbed their guns 

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and headed to the spot where the
tree was. 

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They had made it to the tree and
we're looking for the rocks. 

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Keeping one eye on the Ridge 
where the rocks had come from. 

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Out of nowhere, a violent crash 
sounded from the exact spot 

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where the rocks had come from 
last week. 

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It sounded like a tree was being
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another tree. 
Holy. 

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Immediately they were each down 
on one knee and looking through 

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their scopes trying to find 
whatever just made that noise. 

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They noticed that the woods shut
down with no noise whatsoever. 

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Mike was also scanning the 
hillside with his rifle as Ted 

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walked over to him whispering 
what the hell was that? 

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They stood for a few moments in 
silence and Ted said to Mike. 

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If it charges, I will kill it. 
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thunderous crash happened again 
in the same spot. 

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Ted's heart was in his throat 
and beating like a drum as they 

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both stood scanning the trees 
with their rifles. 

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Ted looked at Mike and said 
let's walk up there and flush it

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out into the open. 
Mike must have thought to 

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himself, damn he's got a pair 
Holish. 

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As they started up the hill, 1/3
crash happened again. 

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This time they looked at each 
other and said let's go, Guns 

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loaded and safety's off. 
They slowly started walking up 

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the hill toward where they heard
the last crash. 

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They got halfway up the hill and
suddenly heard the Suburban 

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start up. 
Fearing the worst, they turned 

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and took off on a dead run to 
the rig. 

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They arrived in a panic only to 
find that the wives and kids had

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become cold sitting in the rig 
and needed to run the heater. 

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Ted looked at Mike and asked. 
Do you want to go back up there?

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Mike replied. 
Hell no, my heart can't take it.

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They never saw anything, but 
both concluded that their 

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experience was typical Bigfoot 
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Shaking of trees, throwing of 
rocks, whacking of sticks. 

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That's our story. 
Fast forward six years to the 

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fall of 2008. 
Ted, his wife Jenny, and their 

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daughter Lorne, as well as Ted's
older brother Travis, had drawn 

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deer tags for the Metolius Unit.
And we're excited for opening 

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day. 
They arrived Friday evening and 

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set up camp where they had 
camped with Ted's other brother 

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a few years earlier. 
They put their two tents up 

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about 8 feet apart with a giant 
tarp that was 30 by 25 feet in 

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the trees, about 10 feet up. 
To keep the rain and the dew off

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of them and their supplies, they
had plans to stay Friday night 

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until the following weekend, 9 
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Everything was going great, they
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passing on some smaller bucks 
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appear. 
On Wednesday evening after 

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dinner they decided to play a 
game called Balderdash. 

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It had been a long day as they 
had risen early and everyone 

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seemed to have the giggles, 
especially Ted and Travis when 

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it came to weird words on the 
playing cards. 

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Let's just say they were all 
having a great time at hunting 

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camp without a care in the 
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They finally decided to go to 
bed around 10:00. 

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At 2:00 AM, Ted was awakened to 
heavy footsteps coming toward 

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camp from his brother's truck 
that was parked about 100 feet 

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from camp. 
It was dead calm out and about 

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15°F. 
The ground was kind of crunchy 

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because of the freezing weather.
Ted had been sleeping with his 

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270 Savage by his right side, 
loaded and ready with his wife 

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and daughter sleeping to his 
left. 

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His first thought was Travis 
went to his truck for something 

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and I'm only hearing him coming 
back to camp. 

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As it was walking toward camp, 
Ted could distinctively hear 

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that it was walking on 2 legs 
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He started to hear it breathe. 
He thought that his brother 

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might have had an upset stomach 
and he must have gone to the 

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truck to get some pills, but as 
he heard it walking toward camp,

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it sounded like he stopped at 
the fire pit. 

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The sound was like Darth Vader 
breathing low and deep. 

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Unbeknownst to Ted, his brother 
was now awake in his own tent 

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and he was thinking that it was 
Ted gathering firewood in the 

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middle of the night and was out 
of breath. 

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As both were lying in their 
separate tents, they realized 

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about the same time what they 
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This heavy breathing went on for
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Ted was thinking that it was 
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because of all the odors, as 
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all the cooking. 
He could not get himself out of 

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bed to peek, but remained 
motionless, listening so 

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intently that he was not 
thinking of anything else. 

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Then it walked over to Travis's 
tent and stood right in front of

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the doorway and remained there 
for several minutes and still 

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breathing like Darth Vader. 
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contemplating what to do next or
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Later, Travis remarked that the 
sound of his breathing seemed to

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be coming from the top part of 
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high. 
Travis never moved a muscle 

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controlling his breathing and 
thinking. 

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I left my gun in my truck. 
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Then they both heard it walk off
into the woods about 50 feet and

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stop. 
It was there for quite a while, 

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then started walking again up 
the hill and then everything 

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went silent. 
Then suddenly they both heard 

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two long clear calls that 
sounded like whoop up the hill 

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in the distance. 
Soon the brothers got up and 

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built a huge fire and started 
talking about the encounter, 

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each telling the other, I 
thought that was you. 

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When daylight came, they told 
the girls what had happened and 

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began looking around the area 
for tracks. 

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They found nothing but realized 
that they were not leaving 

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tracks either because of the 
frozen ground which was littered

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with pine needles and small 
rocks. 

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As they were recalling their 
experiences the previous night, 

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they both agreed that they heard
it leave camp and stop about 50 

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feet out. 
They all then began to scan the 

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woods to find out what it may 
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Then Travis yelled out. 
I found something. 

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That something ended up being a 
giant turd that the Bigfoot had 

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left. 
Travis looked at it and 

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exclaimed. 
I have haunted my entire life 

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and I have never seen a turd 
like that. 

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Lauren joked. 
That was probably hers. 

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It was about 12 inches long and 
three to four inches round and 

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had pieces of bark and leaves in
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Travis said they should wrap it 
in foil and put it in the 

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cooler. 
To which Jenny replied hell no. 

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As they all stood there that 
morning, they were in disbelief 

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that they experienced another 
Bigfoot encounter close to the 

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spot where they had come across 
him a few years before. 

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Ted remembered reading once that
Bigfoot is attracted to laughter

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and noise. 
Now he knows they are. 

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Coincidentally, Travis decided 
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2017, Ted and. 
His wife had purchased ELK tags 

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for the Cascade Range in Oregon.
They got up early on opening 

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morning. 
Threw all the gear in the truck 

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and headed out in hopes to bag a
couple of bull elk. 

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They decided to begin their day 
in the woods around Marion Forks

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on Hwy. 22, then traveled Sheep 
Creek to Hwy. 20. 

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This would provide a full day of
hunting and driving that 

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afternoon. 
When they arrived at Hwy. 20 Ted

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said to Jenny, well we have at 
least one hour of daylight left.

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If we head to our old deer camp 
area where we had all the 

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Bigfoot activity we could hunt 
the last half hour of daylight. 

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Jenny agreed and as they arrived
at the area the sun was going 

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down and the woods were getting 
dark. 

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Ted made a turn down a gravel 
road and as he was coming out of

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the corner he looked down the 
road about 300 yards on the left

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side he could see something dark
black standing just off the side

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of the road next to the Pines. 
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It was the only thing black that
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He slammed on the brakes and 
yelled for Jenny. 

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Get the binoculars. 
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could see the shoulders and head
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It had a conehead shape. 
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the binoculars it just stepped 
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that it walked on 2 legs. 
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punched it to get closer fast. 
They got to where it had been 

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standing, got out to look and 
listen for a while but did not 

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hear or see anything. 
The next morning he put out two 

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game cameras on that trail but 
captured nothing. 

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The area where he spotted this 
Bigfoot was about half a mile 

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from where they had the midnight
visitor and about 3/4 of a mile 

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where the Bigfoot says get the 
hell out. 

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All these. 
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summer, early fall of the year. 
The crazy thing about it is the 

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brothers had all heard of 
Bigfoot while growing up but did

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not really give it much thought 
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It serves to change one's mind 
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Ted's opinion is it is an ape 
that walks upright like a human 

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and it is nocturnal. 
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daylight hours if it needs to. 
Canada is a land full of vast 

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natural beauty and thriving 
unspoiled wilderness. 

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Much of the wild landscape here 
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wonders that have managed to 
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untouched by human beings, with 
mountains, valleys, forests, 

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whole swaths of land that have 
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unexplored. 
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northern lands that have long 
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mystery and strange phenomena. 
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mysteries from the Canadian 
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Nahanni National Park, a place 
also known ominously as the 

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Valley of Headless Men. 
The name is not merely a spooky 

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nickname for a remote, 
mysterious land, for the area is

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long known for having people 
disappear only to turn up 

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without their heads. 
Nahanni National Park is part of

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the Mackenzie Mountain region, 
located in the Deco region of 

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the Northwest Territories, 
Canada, approximately 500 

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kilometers or 311 miles West of 
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Nahanni is from the language of 
the indigenous Denay people that

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have inhabited the region for 
millennia and means the people 

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over there in reference to the 
tribe of mountain dwelling 

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people known as the Naha, who 
were once known to raid lowland 

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settlements before mysteriously 
vanishing. 

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The roughly 11,000 square mile 
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World Heritage Site and is 
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natural wonder and beauty. 
The park is surrounded by 

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majestic peaks and dotted with 
geysers, sinkholes, deep 

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canyons, caves, gorges and 
pristine forests. 

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Within these stunning vistas 
lies Virginia Falls, a 

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magnificent giant of a waterfall
that crashes down 96 meters, or 

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315 feet, into the roiling water
below, twice as high as the more

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well known Niagara Falls. 
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the valley is the South Nahanni 
River, which carves a scenic 

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path through the park and has 
formed 4 dizzyingly high canyons

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that line its turbulent waters. 
The South Nahanni River's course

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takes it over waterfalls, 
through deep gorges, and across 

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natural Hot Springs, including 
an area of boiling whirlpools 

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known as Hell's Gate, before 
ending its journey in a 

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thunderous crescendo down 
Virginia Falls. 

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The South Nahanni River is a 
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called an antecedent river, 
meaning that it was powerful 

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enough to maintain the same 
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mountains around it formed, 
which it carved as they slowly 

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sprung up across the landscape. 
This results in the rather 

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remarkable sight of mountains 
that seem to follow the flow of 

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the river rather than the other 
way around. 

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Along the river's path through 
hot spring areas are places 

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permeated with warm air that 
never freeze and are home to 

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lush topical worlds full of 
atypical plants for the region 

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such as ferns, wild cherries and
roses which form Oasis of green 

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surrounded by frigid snow and 
ice in the winter. 

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The river is the centerpiece of 
the valley and is the 

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destination of most tourists who
come to the Nahanni National 

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Park where they canoe or do 
white water rafting along its 

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challenging, treacherous Rapids.
While surrounded by awe 

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inspiring scenery and rugged 
wilderness, the Nahanni National

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Park has managed to remain 
relatively pristine, untouched 

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and unexplored. 
Due to a lack of any tourist 

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accommodations and no roads 
leading in, the remote park is 

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only accessible by boat or 
plane. 

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The Nahanni Valley has been 
steeped in folklore and mystery 

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since it was first inhabited 
around 9 to 10,000 years ago. 

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Many tribes were afraid to 
settle within the region as they

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believed it to be an evil, 
haunted place inhabited by 

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various spirits, specters, and 
devils. 

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Those who did come here, such as
the native Danae people, told of

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mysterious creatures lurking in 
the vast forests and were 

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plagued by the enigmatic, 
aggressive, violent Naha tribe 

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of the mountains. 
The tribe was said to consist of

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fierce warriors who wore masks 
and armor adorned with 

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frightening imagery and were 
known to brutally decapitate 

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their victims. 
Warriors of the Naha tribe were 

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said to be larger than normal 
men and to wield strange and 

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powerful weapons that no one had
ever seen before. 

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The fearsome Naha tribe itself 
has become one of the area's 

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many mysteries, as the whole 
tribe is said to have suddenly 

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and inexplicably disappeared 
from the face of the earth, and 

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it has never been ascertained 
just what happened to them. 

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They have seemingly just 
vanished without a trace. 

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When European fur traders first 
came to the valley in the 18th 

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century, they were impressed by 
the legends and beauty of the 

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valley and word quickly spread 
about the far-flung wilderness. 

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As more European settlers found 
their way to the valley, it was 

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soon seen to be a potential path
to riches, as many explorers 

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believed it to possess vast 
reserves of untapped gold. 

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Subsequently, the region saw an 
influx of miners looking to 

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either find gold in the South 
Nahanni River basin or 

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attempting to pass through on 
the way to the gold fields of 

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the Yukon during the Klondike 
Gold Rush. 

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Although Nahanni Valley actually
produced little actual gold, 

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legends nevertheless quickly 
formed of the valley holding 

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large stores of lost gold 
waiting to be found. 

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Some stories told of miners 
spotting large Nuggets of gold 

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as big as grapes, and huge veins
of untapped gold were said to be

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hidden away in the wilderness. 
Here, the stories fueled gold 

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fever, and miners, undeterred at
the lack of success up to that 

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point, continued to clamor to 
this remote and rugged land to 

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try their hand at finding it. 
It was during this era of miners

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seeking their fortunes among the
rugged terrain of the Nahanni 

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that the valleys more insidious 
and macabre. 

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Legend began to emerge, 
particularly in the part of the 

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park called the 200 Mile Gorge. 
In 1908, brothers Willie and 

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Frank McLeod came prospecting in
the valley, just as many others 

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had done before them. 
The two packed up their gear, 

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headed out into the wilderness, 
and never returned. 

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After a year had passed, it was 
presumed that the brothers must 

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have succumbed to the elements 
or any of the countless perils 

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the area had to offer, such as 
sinkholes, jagged gorges, and 

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wild animals. 
Some rumors suggested that the 

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two had succeeded in finding one
of the mythical veins of gold 

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thought to dot the valley and 
had made off with their fortune 

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without telling anyone. 
Then, as suddenly as they had 

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vanished, the two men were found
dead along the river. 

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Their bodies had been 
decapitated and the heads were 

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nowhere to be found. 
A spooky story, to be sure, but 

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it would not be an isolated 
case, nor the last victims the 

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valley would claim. 
In 1917, a Swiss prospector by 

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the name of Martin Jorgensen 
made his way to Nahanni to try 

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his hand at finding gold. 
At first, Jorgensen seemed to 

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have settled well in the valley.
He built a cabin, ran a small 

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mining operation, and was 
generally well known by settlers

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in the area. 
When Jorgensen's cabin 

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mysteriously burned down to the 
ground, the prospector skeleton 

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was found among the ashes 
without its head, and a search 

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of the charred remains of the 
cabin found no trace of the 

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skull. 
In 1945, a miner from Ontario 

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was found dead in his sleeping 
bag without his head. 

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Around the same time, a trapper 
named John O'Brien was found 

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frozen to death in the nearby 
wilderness with his hands 

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clutching a pack of matches in a
death grip right next to a 

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campfire pit that showed 
evidence of having a fire going.

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Those who had stumbled across 
the corpse describe having the 

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feeling that the unfortunate 
trapper had been flash frozen 

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within seconds. 
These mysterious deaths are not 

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the only oddities the valley 
holds. 

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In addition to the mysterious 
beheadings, a good many others 

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simply went missing without a 
trace. 

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It is thought that around 44 
people had vanished under 

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mysterious circumstances in the 
valley by 1969. 

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Other phenomena have been 
reported from here as well. 

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Mysterious lights and UFOs have 
long been sighted in the valley,

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as well as other unusual aerial 
phenomena. 

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The area is also known for its 
cryptids as it is a hotspot for 

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Bigfoot activity and is believed
by some to hold a remnant 

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population of a type of bear 
like carnivore called the Bear 

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Dog or Amphicinidae, which was 
thought to have gone extinct in 

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the Pleistocene epic. 
In addition to this strangeness,

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A bizarre find was made in an 
ice cave called Grot Valerie, 

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where the ancient skeletons of 
over 100 sheep were found, 

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apparently having starved to 
death in around 2500 BC. 

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The grim find has earned The 
Cave the nickname The Gallery of

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Lost Sheep. 
To this day, it is not known who

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or what is responsible for the 
beheadings and disappearances in

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the Nahanni Valley, but their 
legacy certainly remains in the 

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menacing place Names throughout 
the valley, such as Deadman 

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Valley, Headless Creek, Headless
Range, and the Funeral Range. 

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Theories abound on what could be
the culprit behind the killings,

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encompassing everything from the
rational to the outlandish. 

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Some say that the valley is 
cursed, just as the native 

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people of the region had always 
believed, and that some evil 

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supernatural force is to be 
blamed. 

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Others think the deaths were the
result of the ghosts of the 

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mountain Naha warriors risen 
from the dead to drive away the 

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white man, and with their 
penchant for beheadings firmly 

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intact. 
Some of these fringe theories 

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include mention of a secret 
entrance to the hollow earth 

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somewhere in the valley, or the 
idea that the area lies along a 

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thin spot in the veil that 
separates different dimensions. 

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More rational theories point to 
the attacks being carried out by

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hostile native tribes or 
rivalries between miners 

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scrambling to find the mythical 
stores of unfound gold. 

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The disappearances could be the 
result of any number of perils 

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to be found in the wilderness 
here. 

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After all, this is an 
inhospitable place of extreme 

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cold, filled with unexplored 
caves, gullies, jagged rocks, 

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and ravenous beasts such as 
grizzly bears. 

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For all of the ideas offered, in
the end, no one really knows 

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what decapitated these bodies or
why, and it is still unknown as 

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to what happened to the people 
who disappeared. 

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It is hard to say what lies 
behind these mysteries. 

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The area is so forbidding and 
remote that very few people 

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other than adventurous rafters 
ever set foot here. 

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Despite its status as a National
Park, Nahanni Valley remains for

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the most part unexplored, and 
there are very large portions 

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that have never been properly 
surveyed. 

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The only geological surveys ever
done here were done from the 

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air, and the vast majority of 
the wilderness here remains an 

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enigma. 
The few efforts to explore the 

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area in any kind of depth have 
turned up vast unknown cavern 

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systems, caves, and huge Warrens
of underground Hot Springs and 

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vents previously not known to 
exist. 

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Some believe that a lost world 
full of new species lies here. 

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What other mysteries and 
oddities does in the Honey 

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Valley hold? 
Is there something malevolent 

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hiding out there in this rugged 
wilderness that could have 

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something to do with its violent
and sinister past? 

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Until more investigation is 
done, it will continue to remain

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a perplexing and very creepy 
mystery. 

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00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,840
My husband and I had heard about
Babyfoot Lake, a beautiful 

455
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,840
circular mountain lake near the 
Illinois Valley in Oregon, and 

456
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,280
since we were in The Cave 
Junction area for a few days 

457
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,840
visiting relatives, we needed 
some time to ourselves, so we 

458
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,800
decided it would be nice to go 
there. 

459
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,080
We packed a picnic lunch, 
thinking we would spend some 

460
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,200
time at the lake relaxing since 
it was early enough in the year 

461
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,560
that it should be rather devoid 
of people, with traces of snow 

462
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,200
still lingering in pockets. 
As luck would have it, we were 

463
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,360
the only car at the trailhead, 
so we put on our backpacks, 

464
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,280
grabbed our hiking poles, and 
started off on the trail. 

465
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,960
It seemed different than the 
written description and 

466
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,840
directions we had looked at on 
the Internet. 

467
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:18,200
As we found ourselves leaving 
the small valley and climbing at

468
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,040
a steady angle along a steep 
Cliff, we finally realized that 

469
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,480
we must have missed the trail 
that led to Babyfoot Lake. 

470
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040
We had looked at maps before 
leaving the car and we knew 

471
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,680
there was a higher trail, so we 
assumed that this must have been

472
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,520
what we were on. 
We figured that the steep trail 

473
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,440
must eventually meet up with the
other trail to the lake, so we 

474
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,480
decided to stay the course since
we could see boot prints had 

475
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,240
already been on this trail this 
season. 

476
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,280
Well, we began regretting our 
choice after another half hour 

477
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,840
because we were still climbing 
and at places the trail was just

478
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,920
wide enough for a person's foot 
one in front of the other. 

479
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,640
The way down wasn't quite 
straight, but if you slipped it 

480
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,000
was about 100 to 150 feet before
a tree or Bush or maybe a huge 

481
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,040
boulder would stop your fall. 
Finally, we reached the top of 

482
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,400
the Ridge and the trail 
continued through the remnants 

483
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,400
of a forest along the Crest of 
the Ridge. 

484
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,200
There were many dead blackened 
trees from the Biscuit Fire that

485
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,120
ridged through back in 2002 and 
burned thousands of acres across

486
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:19,000
these mountains. 
We had watched a documentary 

487
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,960
about this tremendous fire and 
its ravages were still so 

488
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,120
visible it must have been 
terrible. 

489
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,800
There was also signs of recovery
with young trees and small 

490
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,920
bushes growing, but they were 
dwarfed by the huge dead Pines 

491
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,960
that covered the mountains like 
grey ghosts with their arms 

492
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
outstretched as if asking for 
sympathy. 

493
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,720
Many of them still had pine 
cones that it kind of burned 

494
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,920
right onto the branches. 
We had finally reached the very 

495
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920
top of the Ridge where someone 
had piled rocks to form a Cairn,

496
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,160
which at the time we hadn't 
researched enough to know what 

497
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,280
it signified. 
Not far from this spot was our 

498
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,800
first sight of Babyfoot Lake 
several 100 feet below us. 

499
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,440
The trail LED forward and looked
as if it curved down and around 

500
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,720
the mountain to the lake. 
It seemed more like a Jeep Rd. 

501
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,040
as it was wide and rutted from 
what we could see. 

502
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,040
Before a drop downward. 
We decided to take a lunch break

503
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,280
with an overview of the deep 
blue pool, so we settled on a 

504
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,480
couple of boulders and began to 
unpack our sandwiches and water 

505
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,200
and enjoy the beautiful spring 
day. 

506
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,720
Suddenly we heard a loud thump 
and as we turned a large 

507
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,000
softball sized rock came 
skipping across the ground past 

508
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,800
us and disappeared over the 
Cliff. 

509
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Knowing we were on the highest 
point on the Ridge, we knew it 

510
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,920
couldn't have fallen, it had to 
have been thrown and we both 

511
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,640
yelled at the same time. 
There was no response and not a 

512
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,040
sound but the wind whispering 
through the Pines. 

513
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,840
We yelled again, but without 
response. 

514
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,680
The angle the rock had landed 
and rolled forward indicated 

515
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,800
that it came from the trees just
where the trail started downhill

516
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,560
and that meant that it had 
travelled over 150 feet through 

517
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,200
the air before it hit the 
ground. 

518
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,040
We both know that anything that 
could throw a rock that large 

519
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,920
that far had to be too big to 
fool around with. 

520
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,560
We took the easy and safe route 
by packing up and heading back 

521
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,120
the way we had come. 
The hare was standing on the 

522
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,440
backs of our necks the entire 
way down the trail. 

523
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,440
We didn't hear anything or see 
anything further. 

524
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,040
By the time we got to where the 
lower trail was visible, we had 

525
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,480
both lost our interest in 
visiting the lake for now. 

526
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,760
So we made our way back to the 
parking area and we're comforted

527
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,600
by the side of our car. 
Thank you. 

528
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:39,070
Jan Olson, Reno, NV I took a 
three day vacation beginning on 

529
00:30:39,070 --> 00:30:43,270
September the 14th, 2012 from 
Northern Nevada to the southern 

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00:30:43,270 --> 00:30:46,560
coast of Oregon. 
I take professional photos for a

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00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,520
website I operate and I was 
hoping to get in some great 

532
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,720
scenic shots before it got too 
cold and lousy for the rest of 

533
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,000
the year. 
My fiance and I were on a hike 

534
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,800
about 6 or 8 miles above 
Brookings, OR and Curry County. 

535
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,160
We were on a hiking trail in a 
densely wooded area following a 

536
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,640
trail called the Loop Trail. 
This trail is about 1/4 of a 

537
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,520
mile past the area called 
Natural Bridges Viewpoint. 

538
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,040
We'd gone down the trail without
incident, although it was 

539
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,760
getting dark and I felt as 
though we needed to hurry to get

540
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,280
back, even though there was no 
reason to. 

541
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,960
It was just a feeling, like the 
hairs on the back of my neck had

542
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,640
started to stand up. 
I can't quite explain it, I just

543
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,360
suddenly felt uncomfortable. 
We didn't see any other hikers 

544
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,320
while we were on our way back up
the trail or on our way down. 

545
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,320
We stopped walking when we heard
some loud snaps in the forest 

546
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,280
around us, like something was 
breaking tree branches. 

547
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280
We looked around but didn't see 
anything at first. 

548
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,240
We decided to keep walking when 
we saw some bushes about 20 

549
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,280
yards ahead of us sway back and 
forth. 

550
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,800
We stopped again and were then 
assaulted by a horrific smell 

551
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,280
that reminded me of garbage 
baking in the sun. 

552
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,680
By then the nervous feeling I 
had had intensified and I was 

553
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,480
really beginning to worry about 
the onset of fog and the fading 

554
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,160
light. 
The forest was misty and it was 

555
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840
raining lightly. 
We were climbing a steep part of

556
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,840
the trail and I gave it my best 
push to get to the end of the 

557
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880
trail. 
As we were finishing the final 

558
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,840
climb, I turned and looked 
behind me. 

559
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,680
I'm not sure why. 
It was like I knew someone was 

560
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,800
watching and yet I told myself I
was just being silly. 

561
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,200
When I turned, I saw a head 
above some tree branches with 

562
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680
the rest of the body hidden by 
the heavy vegetation. 

563
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,320
The head was covered in dark 
reddish brown fur and was 

564
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,440
impossibly far from the ground. 
If this was a man, he must have 

565
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,360
been at least close to 8 feet 
tall. 

566
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,040
I blinked a couple of times, 
convinced I was seeing things. 

567
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,200
The thing I was looking at did 
not disappear. 

568
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,360
Instead, it looked at me 
curiously for a few seconds and 

569
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,720
then moved out of my view behind
a tree. 

570
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,560
I grabbed my fiance's hand, too 
afraid to tell him what I had 

571
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,440
seen because I thought he might 
go looking for it, and then I 

572
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,080
made my way back to our vehicle 
as fast as I could. 

573
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,120
I'm not crazy. 
This was not a trick of the 

574
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,040
light or fog. 
Something very large with the 

575
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,000
face of an ape was looking at 
me. 

576
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,880
I will never forget it. 
On June 4th, 2001, I stopped at 

577
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,280
the beach north of Brookings OR 
for my usual evening walk with 

578
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,680
my golden retriever. 
When we cross the Creek near 

579
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,480
where it empties into the ocean 
to get to the north and rugged 

580
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,680
end of the beach, my dog, who 
normally runs a block ahead of 

581
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,520
me, froze. 
She did not wish to walk 

582
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,880
anywhere in this area. 
We turned around and took a walk

583
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,280
on the South Beach at 7:15 PM. 
Heading up the path to the 

584
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,320
parking lot, I happened to 
glance up at the steep hills on 

585
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560
the north. 
I was stunned to see what 

586
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,680
appeared to be two very large 
men, both dressed completely in 

587
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,200
black. 
I looked again to determine if 

588
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520
they were a threat to me and I 
saw they were in fact covered in

589
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,200
black and it probably wasn't 
dark clothing. 

590
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,520
The figures walked in a hunched 
over posture, one right in front

591
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,840
of the other, arms swinging like
apes and taking very long 

592
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520
strides. 
They seem to see me and appear 

593
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,880
to be coming toward me. 
I started to run to my Chevy 

594
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,040
Blazer. 
Part way there I turned to see 

595
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,000
if I was being pursued, only to 
make eye contact with a large 

596
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,520
doe perhaps less than 100 feet 
away. 

597
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,520
My golden retriever and I were 
the only ones on that beach that

598
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,199
night. 
It was almost sunset, misty, 

599
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,480
cloudy and it had been raining 
all day and the creatures were 

600
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,600
heading toward the ocean. 
This sighting occurred near an 

601
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,760
area east and between Gold Beach
and Brookings called the 

602
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,320
Stackyards, also known as Devils
Stackyards. 

603
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,280
The area is on the north side of
Pistol River. 

604
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,040
My brother, a rigging Slinger, 
and one of our other fellows, a 

605
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,120
hook tender, were working in the
rigging. 

606
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,320
Myself, a chaser, and the other 
fellow, A yarder engineer, were 

607
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,080
working the landing. 
Communications between the 

608
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,880
landing brush were via handheld 
walkie talkies. 

609
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,560
The guys in the Bush spotted 
something moving across a 

610
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,440
Prairie about 2500 feet across 
the Canyon from the yarder. 

611
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,160
They thought it might have been 
an elk, but weren't sure. 

612
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,480
After telling the yarder 
engineer about it and ask him 

613
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,680
what he thought it was, the 
engineer had me get a rifle with

614
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,280
a scope to get a better look. 
Both the yarder, engineer and I 

615
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920
took turns looking at this 
creature through the rifle scope

616
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,000
for approximately 15 minutes. 
We both came to the conclusion 

617
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,760
that the creature was not a 
bear, elk, deer, or any of the 

618
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,880
commonly known big game animals 
that inhabit these woods around 

619
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,320
here. 
The creature was definitely 

620
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,520
walking upright and on 2 legs. 
It had broad shoulders, reddish 

621
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,320
brown colored hair, and it 
didn't seem to be in a big hurry

622
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,840
getting to where it was going. 
I could see its arms swinging as

623
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,200
it walked and seemed to have a 
pointed or conical shaped head. 

624
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,760
I couldn't distinguish the 
facial features as it was just 

625
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,560
too far away. 
This creature was headed in the 

626
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,560
east northeast direction from 
us. 

627
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000
Quartering up the hill across 
the prairies toward the Ridge of

628
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,560
the hill. 
We watched the creature until it

629
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,760
disappeared over the Ridge it 
was headed towards. 

630
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,240
On our way home after work we 
debated what the creature was 

631
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,400
and concluded that it was a 
Bigfoot. 

632
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,720
The boys in the brush said that 
they had the feeling that they 

633
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:20,640
were being watched for a couple 
of days and the hook tender 

634
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,040
mentioned that he had heard 
noises like sticks breaking and 

635
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,600
something walking in the brush 
while he was working at his 

636
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,360
duties at the back end of the 
unit. 

637
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,440
At the time he heard the noises 
he just passed it off as a bear 

638
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,400
or other game animal. 
He never mentioned anything of 

639
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,040
strange odors or of the like. 
We have heard of several other 

640
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,280
reports in the Brookings Gold 
Beach area in the past 30 years 

641
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,680
or so. 
One of my sons brought over a 

642
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,000
photo of a large track with toes
and snow he found before 

643
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,640
Christmas 2005. 
My good friend's 12 year old 

644
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,000
grandson says he saw a Bigfoot 
step over a guardrail. 

645
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:58,800
I also had an incident happened 
to me in the 80s while hunting 

646
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,200
deer. 
I never got a visual of the 

647
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,480
critter but heard heavy brush 
crashing made by something 

648
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,560
running on 2 feet. 
What was really strange about it

649
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,080
was that whatever it was made a 
really loud vocalization. 

650
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,240
It sounded like a monkey, a 
really loud one. 

651
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,800
I heard a similar vocalization 
on one of the other Bigfoot 

652
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,560
websites. 
I don't remember which one, but 

653
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,160
it made the hair on the back of 
my neck stand up when I heard 

654
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,960
the recording. 
I've been hunting these woods 

655
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,760
for a very long time and I've 
heard every game animal 

656
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,400
vocalization at one time or 
another and was not from 

657
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,240
anything that I've ever heard 
before. 

658
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,760
Whatever it was made the 
vocalization as it was running 

659
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,760
through heavy timber and thick 
underbrush. 

660
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,280
In 1969 at the end of August, 
four other boys and myself when 

661
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,880
camping near Babyfoot Lake. 
I was 16. 

662
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,720
At around 11:00 PM. 
Three of us were asleep and two 

663
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,040
were up. 
Even though we were within the 

664
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,520
wilderness area. 
We had parked our car some ways 

665
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,560
down a very hard to negotiate 
Rd. by a stream bed and had to 

666
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,960
send it a small hill where there
was a campground with easy water

667
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,000
access. 
A little further up the stream. 

668
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,600
One Boy George went down the 
hill to get something out of the

669
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,160
car and as he approached the car
something which had been hanging

670
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,800
out near it took off and ran 
downstream. 

671
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,200
It was so loud that Matt, the 
other boy, heard it too and they

672
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,680
said it sounded like a Jeep 
going through the brush without 

673
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,280
a motor. 
But the real fun started about 

674
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,840
two hours later when horrible 
screams started to be heard from

675
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,560
a distance. 
The sound eventually woke all of

676
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,440
us up, and I must say they were 
of an incredibly scary nature. 

677
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Not cats or anything even like 
that, more like metal ripping in

678
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,800
a factory. 
Eventually it became obvious 

679
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,480
that the creature was making its
way towards our camp by the 

680
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,360
stream and machetes in hand, we 
all hid deep in our sleeping 

681
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,320
bags. 
The camp spent about 1/2 hour 

682
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,000
estimated under siege by 
something, walking around on its

683
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,800
two feet and continuing to let 
out these massive whales while 

684
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,880
us boys shivered in our sleeping
bags in utter terror. 

685
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,240
Finally, the creature started to
move away, and as it did, two or

686
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:12,640
three of us look carefully out 
to see a huge hulking form 

687
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,240
moving away in the moonlight. 
This is absolutely a true story.

688
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,840
Whatever this creature was, its 
whale could raise the dead. 

689
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640
George and Matt were the only 
sceptical types and the 

690
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680
experience shook them 
tremendously. 

691
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,000
I was driving home from work in 
December of 2002. 

692
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,880
It was about midnight. 
I was driving on Hwy. 138 

693
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,280
heading east about 15 miles out 
of Roseburg, OR. 

694
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,000
As I rounded a curve in the 
road, I saw what I thought was a

695
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,920
deer way up ahead. 
Crossing the road. 

696
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,040
I slowed down a bit as I got to 
where I thought the deer would 

697
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,720
be. 
What I saw was a figure standing

698
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:54,280
just off the road by a fence 
with one hand on the fence post 

699
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,960
and it turned as I went by 
watching me. 

700
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,080
I thought it was a man so I 
stopped to see if he needed 

701
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440
help. 
I got out of my truck with my 

702
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,480
flashlight in hand and started 
walking back toward the man. 

703
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,880
I was working the light beam 
along the fence line when I 

704
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,800
heard the most God awful sound I
ever heard in my life. 

705
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,360
I froze. 
I was in the military and I work

706
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,400
as a psychiatric nurse and I 
don't scare easily. 

707
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,000
But that scream scared the crap 
out of me. 

708
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,160
It sounded like a dying calf in 
a hailstorm. 

709
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,440
It was ranging in tone, starting
out high pitched and then ending

710
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,080
up as a threatening low pitched 
guttural sound. 

711
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,920
I dropped my flashlight and ran 
back to my truck and spun tires 

712
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,200
getting out of there. 
The next day on my way to work, 

713
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:41,400
I stopped at the same spot. 
My flashlight was still there. 

714
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,200
I didn't notice any footprints, 
but I did see the tall grass had

715
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,160
been walked through on the other
side of the fence. 

716
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,960
I looked on all the fence posts 
in the area where I saw it, but 

717
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,400
I didn't see any evidence of 
hair as to what it looked like. 

718
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,840
I only got a brief look as I 
went by, but it had to be at 

719
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,480
least 7 feet tall. 
I base this on the fact that I 

720
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,440
drive a Dodge Ram truck. 
When I'm sitting in the driver's

721
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,560
seat, my head is 6 feet off the 
ground. 

722
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,600
The spot where this thing stood 
is in a depression in the 

723
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,920
ground. 
When I park my truck in that 

724
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,840
spot and stand where I stood, I 
couldn't see into the cab at 

725
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,280
all. 
And yet that night I saw it. 

726
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,080
Its head was even with mine. 
I was looking directly out of 

727
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,120
the window, not slightly up or 
down. 

728
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,200
I couldn't make out features as 
it was dark, but the lights of 

729
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,360
my pickup slightly illuminated 
the area where it stood as I 

730
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,360
went by. 
As I said, I thought it was a 

731
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,720
man at first who needed help. 
It looks so human at that 

732
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,240
moment. 
It wasn't until later that I 

733
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,520
came to believe that it couldn't
have been a man. 

734
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,760
No man could have made that 
sound. 

735
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,400
What I remember seeing was a 
figure standing next to the 

736
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,840
fence. 
Its head followed me as I went 

737
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,800
by. 
It didn't appear to have 

738
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,600
shoulders. 
It looked like the head just 

739
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,360
spread out until it became 
shoulders. 

740
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,080
It appeared to have long hair 
all over. 

741
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,840
At first I thought it was a long
jacket, like a duster, but as I 

742
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,760
look back it had to have been 
fur. 

743
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,040
But it was the scream that 
stands out in my mind. 

744
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,080
It was like a warning. 
Don't come closer. 

745
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,600
At least that was the message I 
got. 

746
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,920
I left Oklahoma City with my two
brothers, Bobby and Jimmy and a 

747
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,280
friend named John. 
We headed for Oregon in August 

748
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,320
1979 for a possible long term 
stay. 

749
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,840
After a 5 day drive we came to a
small town of Drain, Oregon 

750
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,880
where Jimmy had been a few years
earlier with his ex-wife and 

751
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,080
child. 
After about 3 weeks we settled 

752
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,280
in and everything was looking 
pretty good for us. 

753
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,800
A couple months passed and one 
early October morning in 1979 I 

754
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,360
got up and asked my brother 
Jimmy if he knew of a place to 

755
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,200
go deer hunting. 
He told me that he had been to a

756
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,360
place a few years ago just 
outside a small town called 

757
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,200
Yonkala a few miles South of 
Drain on Hwy. 99. 

758
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,680
So we took off to go check out 
the area he told me about. 

759
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,080
We drove South of Yonkala about 
two to three miles and turned to

760
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,360
the West on an old logging Rd. 
We went up the road for about 

761
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,360
two miles and came to a fork in 
the road. 

762
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,560
At that time I asked Jimmy do I 
go left or right. 

763
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,520
He told me it doesn't matter. 
So I turned right and the road 

764
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,160
ended up at the top of a 
mountain about two more miles 

765
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,440
up. 
The road that turned left at the

766
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,960
fork ended at the top of a 
mountain about 3 or 500 yards 

767
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,960
away to the left. 
Jimmy and I got out of the car 

768
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,160
for a nature call. 
After about 20 seconds Jimmy 

769
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,360
told me to look over on the 
other mountain top. 

770
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,880
He saw something move. 
I looked and I told him that I 

771
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,040
didn't see anything. 
About 10 seconds later Jimmy 

772
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,240
told me look, I saw something 
move. 

773
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:46,560
I looked and told him that I and
that's all I could say. 

774
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,960
At that time. 
We saw a big black thing walking

775
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,600
like a man. 
It walked over to the edge of 

776
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,640
the other mountain, the mountain
we would have been on if we had 

777
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,440
taken a left at the fork in the 
road. 

778
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,360
It was standing there for about 
10 to 20 seconds before it 

779
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,960
walked back to where we first 
saw it. 

780
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,360
It stopped and looked at us for 
about 30 seconds, then turned 

781
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,880
away. 
That's when we saw a little 1 

782
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,960
standing there beside it. 
We watched as they walked away 

783
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,680
from us over the mountain. 
They were about 3 to 500 yards 

784
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,600
away from us. 
The big one was about 6 or 7 

785
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,080
feet tall and about 3 to 400 lbs
Very muscular. 

786
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,760
The smaller one was about four 
to five feet tall and probably 

787
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,320
about 100 to 150 lbs. 
After we got over the shock, 

788
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Jimmy and I left and drove down 
to the fork in the road and saw 

789
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,360
a man on a horse. 
We stopped and asked if his 

790
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,280
horse was acting funny or if he 
saw anything strange. 

791
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,080
He pulled out a big pistol and 
told us he was not worried about

792
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,400
it. 
We stopped in the town of 

793
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,680
Yonkela to get something to 
drink and told some people there

794
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,040
and they didn't care to talk 
about it so we left. 

795
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,040
I hope you take this story 
seriously because you're the 

796
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,280
first that I've told it to in a 
long time. 

797
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,280
In July of 1978, when I was 
seven years old, I travelled to 

798
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,480
Oregon with my family to visit 
relatives. 

799
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,080
We spent three weeks in the 
state and I was lucky enough to 

800
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,240
see what I think was a Bigfoot. 
We camped in an area that was 

801
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,080
dense and close to a shallow 
river. 

802
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,240
It was almost like the camp was 
a bald spot with a wall of brush

803
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,800
and trees around it. 
There was a trail that led to 

804
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,040
the shallow river, and although 
it probably wasn't far, it seems

805
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,960
so to me. 
The late afternoon was sunny and

806
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,240
warm and everyone but my cousin,
my uncle, and myself went to 

807
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,640
look for herds of elk. 
We had campers to sleep in and 

808
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,440
my uncle and cousins were both 
napping when this sighting 

809
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,400
occurred. 
I was outside one of the campers

810
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,640
playing when I heard a rustling 
of underbrush. 

811
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,280
I never smelled anything that I 
can remember or heard a sound 

812
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,560
other than the rustling. 
When I looked up, I noticed that

813
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,960
a small sapling, maybe the size 
of the end of a baseball bat, 

814
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,040
just bent completely over. 
The sapling was behind a thick 

815
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,480
wall of what appeared to be some
sort of Berry Bush. 

816
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,480
I'm not sure what kind though. 
I was curious and walked over to

817
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,040
where I'd seen the sapling bend 
over, thinking there was a 

818
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,840
squirrel hanging onto it or 
something. 

819
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,160
That's when a large hand reached
out from behind this brush and 

820
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,080
grabbed a handful of berries. 
I had to be 8 or 10 feet away at

821
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,120
this time. 
The hand was huge with long 

822
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,400
reddish brown hair. 
It was clear that it was a hand 

823
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,320
and not a paw. 
I stood there in total shock 

824
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,280
when I managed to run. 
I ran for my life. 

825
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,240
It didn't chase me or anything, 
but I saw all I wanted to see of

826
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:36,040
it. 
The hand was scary enough, I 

827
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,400
probably would have died of 
fright had I seen the rest of 

828
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,280
it. 
I got back into camp, which was 

829
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,800
not far away, but far enough for
my napping cousin and uncle not 

830
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,600
to hear anything. 
I never screamed or made a 

831
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,000
sound, just ran and sat as close
to that camper as I could. 

832
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,240
I realized that when I sat down 
in the dirt that I had wet my 

833
00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:00,000
shorts. 
I was 7 years old and I have 

834
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,840
never done that before. 
I kept my mouth shut until my 

835
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,560
mother and other aunts and 
uncles got back from elk 

836
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,480
sightseeing. 
I told them everything and they 

837
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,280
told me that it had to have been
a bear. 

838
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,960
I described the colour of the 
hair and I was told that it must

839
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,000
have been black hair that I had 
seen because the area only had 

840
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,200
black bears. 
I wasn't stupid, I knew the 

841
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,400
difference between a hand and a 
paw and the difference between 

842
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,480
reddish brown and black. 
I managed to let them convince 

843
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,600
me that I must have seen a bear 
and we left and came back to our

844
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,840
home state of Mississippi a few 
years later. 

845
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,120
I was in the 6th grade. 
We had a library period and we 

846
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,920
could look for and check out any
book. 

847
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,640
I found a book with a black 
cover and if I'm not mistaken 

848
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,320
the title was Bigfoot. 
I hurried to check this book out

849
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,440
and read it from cover to cover.
It wasn't until that moment that

850
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,880
I figured out that the animal 
that I had seen those years 

851
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,560
earlier had a name. 
I'd never been so excited in my 

852
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,480
life. 
Ever since, I've been interested

853
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,480
in all the sightings, shows, and
books. 

854
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,280
I've thought about telling my 
story for years, but I, like 

855
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,720
everyone else, have been afraid 
of the teasing and skepticism of

856
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:13,120
others. 
My family says we believe that 

857
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,720
you believe what you saw. 
I will believe it until the day 

858
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:23,040
I die. 
On the 29th of July in 1977 near

859
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,000
Eagle Creek Bench, I heard what 
I thought was low voices coming 

860
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,680
from the hills on each side of a
Creek. 1 low voice or sound on 

861
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,720
one side, then another on the 
opposite side of the Creek. 

862
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,320
I was cooking dinner with my 
small stove and had camp set. 

863
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,120
The sound was so strange that I 
picked up camp and hiked down 

864
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,720
the moonlit trail. 
All the time I felt I was 

865
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:46,600
hearing limbs and sticks. 
Break above me on the ridgeline.

866
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,920
I was in the middle of my 
through hike of the Pacific 

867
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,000
Crest Trail and had been out 
hiking since April 2nd. 

868
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,320
I'd never heard these sounds in 
all my hiking or hunting days, 

869
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,640
past or present. 
In the morning I stopped at a 

870
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,440
side Creek to fill my water 
bottles. 

871
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,600
I walked above the trail for a 
deeper pool to dip bottles in 

872
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,040
and found where something had 
crossed and slid over vegetation

873
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,840
going down and then up next to 
the Creek was a large footprint 

874
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,680
in a small sandbar. 
The other prints were not as 

875
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,320
clear, but I wish I would have 
taken their pictures as well. 

876
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,920
I haven't told many folks about 
the sounds or the prints until 

877
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,080
the last few years. 
I feel that at least in 1977, 

878
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Bigfoot was still alive and 
well. 

879
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,760
I do believe there were two 
communicating across the Creek. 

880
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:37,200
This was summer of 1977 and I 
lived in Arcada, California, 

881
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,000
working as a volunteer botanist 
for Six Rivers National Forest. 

882
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,360
I was helping out a graduate 
student at Humboldt State 

883
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,400
University with his master's 
project. 

884
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,520
We studied wildlife and plants 
associated with freshwater ponds

885
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,760
in the forest near Willow Creek.
One weekend, my girlfriend and I

886
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,800
drove up to Salmon River to go 
camping. 

887
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,920
It's a remote area. 
It seemed that most people up 

888
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,280
that way we're either miners 
along the river or fire crews. 

889
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,800
We stopped and camped at a pool 
out near the mouth of the Little

890
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,520
North Fork. 
The next day we hiked up the 

891
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,840
stream, went swimming, even saw 
a black bear on the trail and 

892
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,200
later drove home. 
The following morning, Monday, 

893
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,200
my Co workers came to pick me up
for the week's work, but I 

894
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,920
realized while packing that I 
was missing the telephoto lens 

895
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,440
to my camera. 
I remember using it on the 

896
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,080
little North Fork, photographing
a frog, figuring I had laid it 

897
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,360
by the stream and forgotten it. 
I did not join my 2 Co workers. 

898
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:35,720
Instead I called my girlfriend, 
told her what happened, and 

899
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,280
asked if she would like to 
return to the Little North Fork.

900
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,280
Instead of roaring up there and 
back about 100 miles, we decided

901
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,840
to make a backpack trip out of 
it. 

902
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,880
We got up there, hiked the 
trail. 

903
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,360
Found the lens. 
And decided to drive further up 

904
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,600
the paved road to a spot. 
Somewhere near Sawyer's Bar, 

905
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,480
where a dirt Rd. followed the 
North Fork and LED up to a 

906
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,400
trailhead where hikers could 
further follow up the North Fork

907
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,720
and into the Marble Mountain 
Wilderness area. 

908
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,520
It was dusk, so we donned. 
Packs and got up the trail as 

909
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,760
far as we could before it got 
completely dark. 

910
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,440
There were no obvious campsites,
so we rolled out our bags and 

911
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,360
literally slept in the middle of
the trail. 

912
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,720
It's old growth forest and we 
felt pretty alone. 

913
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,600
The next morning we got hiking 
again, following the north fork 

914
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,880
of a long forested valley. 
We passed another couple that 

915
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,960
day who had stopped to swim and 
set up camp. 

916
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,560
We hiked on another 4 miles and 
the trail left the river. 

917
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,480
It snaked up along the side of 
the Canyon and became more of a 

918
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,760
narrow path. 
Always the dirt beneath our feet

919
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,520
was covered with prints of 
bears. 

920
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,360
There were no human shoe prints,
just bear prints. 

921
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,920
It was getting late again and 
the topple map indicated a 

922
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,160
stream would cross a trail some 
distance ahead, so we pressed 

923
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,080
on, figuring to set up camp 
there. 

924
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,360
We soon heard water at the 
crossing. 

925
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,560
We were very tired and we were 
ready to drop our packs, but we 

926
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,800
both had a very uneasy feeling 
about the spot and agreed we 

927
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,240
couldn't spend the night there. 
Consulting the map again, we 

928
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,840
found that the trail branched a 
little ways ahead and an 

929
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,960
unmaintained primitive path 
headed up the mountain to a 

930
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,960
small lake that we had earlier 
planned as our destination. 

931
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,120
The map showed the Creek to 
cross the primitive trail 

932
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,160
shortly after the path left the 
main trail. 

933
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:18,400
We figured the trail junction 
might be a good place to camp 

934
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,280
since it would be close to the 
Creek, but hopefully without the

935
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,680
feelings we experienced here 
soon. 

936
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,720
We got there and found a small 
open area between the trees, 

937
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:30,520
just off the trail level and 
large enough for our sleeping 

938
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,760
bags and a fire. 
We dropped our stuff, then went 

939
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,680
down the start of the primitive 
trail to the Creek, about 20 to 

940
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,280
30 yards. 
It was in a steep, boulder 

941
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,040
choked, densely forested draw 
full of log jams left from 

942
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,280
spring or winter torrents. 
It was barely a Creek. 

943
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,840
Now in Midsummer it was getting 
dark and again we had a bad 

944
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,680
feeling about being down in the 
Creek bed. 

945
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,200
We hurriedly filled our cooking 
pots with water and got back up 

946
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,680
to our packs. 
We. 

947
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,960
Were tired after cooking. 
I remember arranging our pots 

948
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,320
and pans along a log on one side
of us, and the fire on the other

949
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,840
side. 
I hoped if a bear entered camp 

950
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,120
during the night, he might knock
the pots off the log and thereby

951
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,200
wake us up sometime in the 
middle of the night. 

952
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,360
I had no watch, but the fire was
completely burned down to ashes 

953
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,840
and coals. 
I awoke to a terrible racket 

954
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,840
going on down in the stream bed 
through the trees below us. 

955
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,720
It was the sound of logs and 
large rocks being hurled and 

956
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:29,560
crashing into things. 
I sat up in the dark and 

957
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,800
listened. 
I shook my girlfriend and told 

958
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,480
her to wake up. 
She at first buried her head in 

959
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,640
the bag because she didn't want 
to hear the sounds. 

960
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,520
We were really scared. 
It was totally dark. 

961
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,000
I knew there was no one around 
for miles and I also knew that 

962
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,720
bears do not go rampaging around
throwing things. 

963
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,360
I also knew darn well that 
anything living out there could 

964
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,160
probably smell the remains of 
our fire. 

965
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,360
Whatever it was, it was clearly 
spending a lot of energy either 

966
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,520
trying to scare us or angrily 
searching for something in one 

967
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,640
of the log jams. 
After listening for maybe 10 to 

968
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,160
20 minutes, it's really hard to 
know how long my worst fears 

969
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,360
were realized. 
The crashing sound stopped and 

970
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,200
soon there was the sound of 
footsteps coming up the slope 

971
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,800
directly toward us, and they 
were clearly audible heavy 

972
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,680
footsteps. 
By this time my girlfriend was 

973
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,640
wide awake like me, listening. 
Although neither of us said it, 

974
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,600
we both were thinking of what it
had to be. 

975
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,680
With the footsteps came the 
sound of laboured breath. 

976
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,920
Whatever it had been up to in 
the stream bed clearly had been 

977
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,960
hard work. 
I had a sheath knife, but 

978
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,000
standing to fight seemed out of 
the question. 

979
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,200
It was dark, this thing was big 
and I was petrified. 

980
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,080
Just as it came up behind the 
trees immediately surrounding 

981
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,160
us, I flicked on my little 
flashlight, hoping to keep it at

982
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,200
Bay with the light. 
The creature stopped just behind

983
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,360
the nearest tree trunk, 15 feet 
away and just stood there 

984
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,680
breathing. 
The sound of the breathing was 

985
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,640
at least 7 feet up in the air. 
I yelled hey with as loud a 

986
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,520
voice as my adrenaline could 
muster. 

987
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:08,040
The breathing paused momentarily
and the creature made a sound in

988
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,360
response, not to me directly, 
but more to itself. 

989
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,040
It was very careful not to 
reveal itself and use the tree 

990
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,040
to avoid my light striking him. 
After this, it turned and walked

991
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,040
through the brush and trees 
directly away from us, not back 

992
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,520
toward the Creek, but parallel 
with the Creek heading 

993
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,320
downstream. 
The stride was unhurried. 

994
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,280
We quickly built the fire back 
up and stayed awake until dawn. 

995
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:33,760
After the sun came up, we got 
some sleep. 

996
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,920
After breaking camp, we dropped 
down to the Creek before heading

997
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,520
up the path on the other side. 
I looked around briefly to see 

998
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,960
if I could see what the creature
had been doing, footprints, 

999
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,960
etcetera, but I found nothing. 
I wish now I had gone down or 

1000
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,080
upstream a bit, since the sounds
may not have originated at the 

1001
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,240
crossing like I assumed at that 
time. 

1002
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,880
We got up to Lake of the Isle in
the afternoon. 

1003
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,960
There were some old campsites 
there, but no recent evidence of

1004
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,160
people. 
The place was scoured of 

1005
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,600
firewood, though I spent a lot 
of time hauling wood up the hill

1006
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,320
so we could have enough to last 
all night. 

1007
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,160
I also stockpiled throwing sized
rocks. 

1008
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,600
That night we couldn't sleep. 
We could hear rustling in the 

1009
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,160
brush near camp. 
I would throw rocks in the 

1010
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,680
direction of the sounds, 
probably raccoons or black 

1011
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,800
bears, and built up the fire 
some more. 

1012
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,360
We did that all night until 
dawn. 

1013
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,680
We finally got some sleep. 
When we awoke we both decided to

1014
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,720
bag it and hike out. 
We packed our packs and hiked 

1015
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,520
all day the last mile or so to 
the car. 

1016
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,480
We hiked in late dusk. 
The thought of spending another 

1017
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,280
night out there was out of the 
question. 

1018
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,600
We were so paranoid by this 
time. 

1019
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,560
We jogged the last half mile. 
That's it for the incident. 

1020
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,240
Although we did not actually see
the creature, neither of us have

1021
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:51,280
any doubt as to what it was. 
Up until that point in my life, 

1022
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,760
Bigfoot stories were like the 
Loch Ness Monster, something 

1023
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,480
intriguing that you sort of want
to believe in but could never be

1024
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,520
sure about. 
For me, the matter of Bigfoot's 

1025
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,640
existence was resolved that 
night. 

1026
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,760
As a new High School graduate in
1977, I planned a camping trip 

1027
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,480
to an area near a Boy Scout camp
called Wolfeboro with my new 

1028
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,160
girlfriend. 
As an Eagle Scout and an 

1029
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,280
athlete, I wanted to impress my 
friend. 

1030
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,800
Who loved the outdoors? 
The destination was around a 

1031
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,560
damned watershed called Spicer's
Reservoir. 

1032
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,120
There was a dirt logging Rd. 
turn off from Hwy. 4. 

1033
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,080
Between Bear Valley and Angels 
Camp we drove down this windy 

1034
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,320
dirt Rd. crossing over a little 
bridge that crossed over a very 

1035
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,800
shallow Stanislaus River until 
we reached the end of the road 

1036
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,320
at the dam. 
We packed about a mile down the 

1037
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,200
river, the Green Waters River. 
I think that ran out of the 

1038
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,280
bottom of the dam. 
Only one side of the river had a

1039
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,600
hiking trail. 
The other side of the river was 

1040
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,040
a very steep and rocky bank. 
This was in the middle of the 

1041
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,320
week and I knew from my scouting
and other trips that very few 

1042
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,040
people were seen in this area. 
I was setting up camp at a 

1043
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,640
clearing next to the river and 
my girlfriend was fishing. 

1044
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,840
She had a tangled line so she 
was wading into the stream. 

1045
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,240
She yelled up to me that she saw
someone crossing the river above

1046
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,240
us some distance from the other 
side of the river, effectively 

1047
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,000
to warn me not to be surprised 
if they walked past on the 

1048
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,720
trail. 
Nobody came down the trail and 

1049
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,560
we forgot the incident. 
An uneventful evening passed. 

1050
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,840
The next day we decided to break
camp and go back to the 

1051
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,160
Stanislaus. 
Maybe there was better fishing 

1052
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,720
there. 
This obviously required us to 

1053
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,680
backpack to the car and drive a 
few miles to the little bridge 

1054
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,800
crossing the Stanislaus River. 
We parked next to the bridge and

1055
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,440
found what looked like a fishing
trail. 

1056
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,120
We packed along the trail, if 
you could call it that, until it

1057
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,320
was too difficult to hike. 
There was a lot of little Pines 

1058
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,880
close together, and there was 
getting to be bigger and bigger 

1059
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,360
granite boulders in our way. 
We found a clearing some 20 

1060
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,040
yards from the river. 
I pitched the tent next to a 

1061
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,840
dried Creek bed. 
The Creek bed was a few feet 

1062
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,240
wide and the tent was a dozen 
feet from it. 

1063
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,920
The rear of the tent was a few 
feet from a slope consisting of 

1064
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,120
huge boulders and small Pines. 
We made a campfire when evening 

1065
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,040
fell. 
It was a clear moonlit night 

1066
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,080
except for the Thunder we heard 
in the distance. 

1067
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Anyway, later in the evening 
when we're about to turn in, we 

1068
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,920
heard strong screams coming from
the upstream direction. 

1069
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,880
The screams occurred 
periodically for half an hour to

1070
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,120
an hour. 
I rationalized them to be a sick

1071
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,720
or injured range cow. 
During my scouting days, I was 

1072
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,920
told that cattle roamed the area
and the snow. 

1073
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,760
Level would effectively herd 
them down the River Valley. 

1074
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,160
We went to bed and must have 
only been asleep for a couple of

1075
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,960
hours when the Thunder clouds 
were close enough to wake us. 

1076
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,640
I wanted to put some things, my 
shoes and such, in the tent so 

1077
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,120
they wouldn't get soaked from 
the rain. 

1078
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,000
Once back in my sleeping bag, I 
stayed awake listening when I 

1079
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,080
heard two footsteps behind us on
the rocks of the dried Creek 

1080
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,400
bed. 
I listened more intensely and 

1081
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,520
heard two more steps than a 
pause. 

1082
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,560
I was really scared, especially 
since the movie Friday the 13th 

1083
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,360
had been playing. 
I really thought it was a person

1084
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,440
stalking us. 
I attempted to peer out the back

1085
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,560
mesh window of the tent. 
Nothing was said between me and 

1086
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,280
my friend and I didn't want to 
alarm her even though I was 

1087
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,480
scared stiff. 
What I did see was a large 

1088
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,720
silhouette standing and then 
moving at 2 steps at a time 

1089
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,000
between a tree in that dry Creek
bed. 

1090
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,800
After what seemed like a long 
time, the thing walked 

1091
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,200
deliberately past our tent 
toward the river. 

1092
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,440
The front part of the tent faced
the river and was zipped closed.

1093
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,280
But this thing that I believed 
was Bigfoot started splashing 

1094
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,920
and making that strong high 
pitched screaming noise at the 

1095
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,400
river. 
I then heard footsteps coming 

1096
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,160
toward our tent and stop right 
in front of the tent. 

1097
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,240
My hand was on my buck knife. 
Then I heard it run away. 

1098
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,840
I think after a while we must 
have said something like did you

1099
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,280
hear that? 
Let's get out of here. 

1100
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Daybreak was only a short time 
off and we waited for the first 

1101
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,760
sign of light. 
We hastily packed up camp and 

1102
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,080
drove home. 
We talked about maybe checking 

1103
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,400
with the Ranger, but we didn't. 
We eventually tied the fisherman

1104
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,360
crossing the river the day 
before below the dam to maybe 

1105
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,600
not being a human but a Bigfoot.
This so-called fisherman 

1106
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,360
crossing the river was dressed 
in very dark clothing. 

1107
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,840
My girlfriend said that seemed 
odd since it was so bloody hot. 

1108
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,800
I haven't changed my story in 
decades. 

1109
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,360
You can even contact my old 
girlfriend if you like. 

1110
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,680
A friend of mine with a mother 
that sold real estate in the 

1111
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,560
Angel Camp area had heard that 
some of his buddies driving 

1112
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,400
their jeeps on the logging roads
had sighted what they thought 

1113
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:37,040
was a Bigfoot. 
This happened many many years 

1114
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,040
ago, but it's still fresh in my 
mind. 

1115
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,160
I guess you never really forget.
These types of experiences. 

1116
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,200
It was late July of 1977. 
My family was up in the Eastern 

1117
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,040
Sierras near Mono Lake, 
approximately 13 to 15 miles 

1118
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,080
above Conway Summit in an area 
known as Virginia Lakes. 

1119
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,480
My dad told my brother and I to 
go to the lake and gather 

1120
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,840
firewood. 
It was late in the day and the 

1121
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,520
sun was down, but it wasn't dark
yet, only dusk. 

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I was 14 years old and my 
brother was one month shy of 16.

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01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,080
He had his learner's permit, so 
we were allowed to take the 

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truck. 
We got to the lake and started 

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,520
loading up some wood. 
I just returned to the truck and

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01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,160
dropped the wood when I heard 
what I thought was someone 

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01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,640
walking through the brush. 
The footfalls were very heavy, 

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01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,560
almost like someone was jumping,
but the steps seemed pretty 

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01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,960
rapidly placed. 
Where we were gathering wood was

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01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,520
near a large hedge of bushes, 
approximately 6 to 7 feet high 

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01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,720
and very dense, with only one 
path through the Bush to skirt 

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01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,440
the lake without wading in the 
water. 

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01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,400
I turned to the bushes where the
sound was coming from and I saw 

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01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,720
the bushes shaking and bending 
as if something large was moving

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01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,040
through the bushes making a lot 
of noise. 

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01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,600
I watched for a few seconds when
my brother came running to the 

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01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,880
truck, white as a ghost and eyes
bulging wide. 

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01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,200
I said, Jeff, what was that? 
He was scared and out of breath.

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01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,880
I don't know, but let's get out 
of here, he said. 

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01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,040
We jumped back into the truck 
and drove all out. 

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,040
On the way back to camp he told 
me that he was only 10 or 15 

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,560
feet away from it. 
He heard the stomping and 

1143
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,280
crashing of the Bush and turned 
to see a large dark brown head 

1144
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,960
above the bushes moving rapidly 
away from him. 

1145
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,880
He didn't see the face. 
He was too scared. 

1146
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,280
He was so scared he crashed the 
truck into a tree on the way 

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01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,240
back to camp. 
My dad was pretty pissed to say 

1148
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,440
the least and didn't believe our
story even when we were crying 

1149
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,800
because of how frightened we 
were. 

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01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,160
He finally calmed down and said 
that we probably saw a bear, but

1151
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,800
bears don't walk through heavy 
brush on 2 legs and my brother 

1152
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,920
swore that it was not a bear. 
I think my dad started to 

1153
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,400
believe that we saw something 
since we would not go to the 

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01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,640
campfire that night and both of 
us refused to go to the lake 

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,560
alone for the rest of the trip. 
Since that time, I've told 

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01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,520
several people with very few 
people actually believing me. 

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01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,200
Thanks for listening everyone. 
Don't forget my books are all 

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,680
for sale, audio and written. 
The links are in the description

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,400
below. 
Thanks again. 

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01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:07,280
Take care.
