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Welcome back, everyone. 
Today on the Joseph Carlson 

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Show, we have a bunch of news to
get into that I think is 

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important. 
First of all, we have news that 

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Microsoft is now talking about 
doing this $100 billion Stargate

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Open AI supercomputer. 
It would be known as the AI Star

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Wars moment according to 
Fortune. 

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Now to put this in context, 
they're they're acting like 

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they're going to spend $100 
billion on this last year. 

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If we look at Microsoft's 
financials, their entire spend 

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on CapEx, if we bring that up 
right here and focus just on 

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their capital expenditure, last 
year it was $28 billion. 

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So they're talking about 
spending around 3:00 to four 

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times as much as they did all of
last year on this new Stargate. 

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So what is Stargate and why is 
Microsoft talking about spending

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$100 billion on it with Open AI?
Now we also have news that 

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Amazon is ditching their Just 
walkout technology. 

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This is the tech where you could
go in. 

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You could grab something off the
shelf, It would have sensors and

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cameras determined what you 
grabbed and then it would charge

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you as you walked out of the 
store with no checkout process. 

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And I also want to mention on 
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this technology, popular Fintwit
accounts and the way that they 

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twist the news. 
We're going to be looking at 

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three very popular tweets over 
the past week and now all of 

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these are incredibly misleading 
and the way that they 

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intentionally mislead their 
followers. 

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We have the ongoing vote from 
the Disney shareholders of 

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whether they should elect Trion 
and one of their members to the 

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board. 
You know that there's an 

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activist investor, Nelson Peltz 
has been fighting Disney to get 

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on the board because he thinks 
that they're well, their board 

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has not been accountable. 
They haven't done a good job. 

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They haven't done well for the 
stock over the past decade. 

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I happen to agree with Treon and
I want to highlight some of the 

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decisions that Bob Iger has made
over the past decade to hurt 

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Disney's stock. 
And then finally, we have Steve 

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Iseman, one of my favorite 
commentators, coming on to CNBC 

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and saying that he doesn't 
believe the Fed should lower 

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interest rates at all this year.
We're going to look at his 

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reasoning for the Fed keeping 
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And then of course, we have My 
Portfolio, the Story Fund, which

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is concentrated into a few 
companies that I've picked out 

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that I believe will beat the S&P
500. 

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We'll be doing a performance 
update of the Story Fund in this

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episode. 
So we have a lot of exciting 

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news to get to in today's 
episode. 

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nice thing. 
Now let's go ahead and jump in 

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and I first want to start off 
before we get to the big news 

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with Microsoft and their 
Stargate investment. 

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I want to take a look at the 
Story Fund because I share this 

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portfolio publicly and I give 
updates on its performance about

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once a week. 
Right now it's surged up to 

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$57,000 in gains. 
So we're making some significant

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gains here year to date on a 
money weighted return, it's up 

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17.5% which is beating out the 
QQQ and the S&P 500 and that's 

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been the same for the past year.
If you look at the past one 

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year, the returns on this are 
astronomical, 65%, 65% returns 

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without owning NVIDIA. 
So I'm missing the best 

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performer in the market, but 
still widely outperforming the 

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S&P 500 and the QQQ over the 
trailing year. 

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Well, how did that happen? 
It happened through Amazon and 

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Netflix. 
We also have other big winners, 

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Google, Microsoft and S&P 
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These have all done really well,
really well over the past 

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trailing year. 
But Amazon and Netflix have done

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particularly well, especially 
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This one has made the biggest 
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When I look at the performance 
overall since I started this 

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portfolio, I track it against 
the S&P 500. 

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We have My Portfolio in blue and
we have the S&P 500 in red. 

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And this is as if I put money 
into both of these at the same 

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time. 
So you see kind of a virtual 

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reality as if I had put my money
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As you can see, the majority of 
the time through 2022 and 2023, 

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I underperformed the S&P 500. 
That is because Amazon and 

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Netflix sold off huge. 
And those are two of my largest 

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positions. 
They are my two largest 

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positions. 
So that hurt the performance. 

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But then I held on and in fact, 
I doubled down on the stocks at 

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the low and the recovery has 
been incredible, making it so 

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that I went up and match the S&P
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And then year to date, I've 
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here right now. 
As it stands, the S&P 500 is at 

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31.71% returns since the 
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My Portfolio is at 39.88. 
So we're actually surging 

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further and further above the 
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Now the major point I want to 
mention when looking at these 

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returns is what earned me these 
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A lot of people like to pretend 
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It's looking at these stocks and
doing analysis that earns you 

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the returns. 
Research is an important 

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ingredient. 
I looked at Amazon and I looked 

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at Netflix and Google and I did 
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You know, I I had a thesis for 
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But that's not really what 
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What earned me the returns was 
not selling during the most 

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difficult point in holding these
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When Netflix plummeted, When 
Amazon plummeted and Google was 

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selling off because of AI 
concerns and and Jack Chachi BT 

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ruining their Moat. 
When Netflix was losing 

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subscribers, when Amazon was 
just a big retail company that 

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was losing money. 
All of those stocks going down, 

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all of the sentiment went 
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People got talked out of these 
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Even good investors like Bill 
Ackman sold Netflix at the 

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bottom. 
Had I done that, had I sold 

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these companies at the Lowe's 
during a time where there's a 

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lot of panic, I would have had 
terrible returns. 

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I would have underperformed the 
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I would have lost a lot of 
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That would have been a 
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So it wasn't the research that 
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It was the research in 
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these companies during a 
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It's easy to hold them now. 
The stocks are going up, The 

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story's good. 
The coast is clear. 

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Everybody can hold on to Amazon 
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So long as things are going 
really well, it's easy to hold 

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on to these stocks. 
But the point is, things aren't 

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always going to be easy. 
Just like we had a panic in 2022

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and 2021, we're likely to have 
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If you're not fully convinced of
holding your stocks during the 

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lows, you're playing a dangerous
game because you're going to end

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up selling out at the worst time
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So when I look at what earned me
these returns, it wasn't just 

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the research. 
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The more important thing was 
having a strong stomach sticking

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with these companies during a 
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That's the portfolio update. 
For now, let's go ahead and take

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a look at the news. 
The first bit of news is this 

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talk of Microsoft potentially 
investing $100 billion with Open

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AI into creating Stargate, a 
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Now to put that in context, we 
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big company, but $100 billion is
more than the amount of free 

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cash flow they earn per year. 
So this is more than an entire 

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calendar year's worth of 
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This is also a lot more than 
they spent on Activision 

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Blizzard. 
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So this would be a massive, 
unprecedented investment from 

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even the likes of Microsoft. 
Apparently this is rumored by 

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The Information, but Microsoft 
have been talking to Open AI 

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because they want this massive 
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support their Open AI models. 
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rumor that Sam Altman was asking
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build something that was like a 
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company for specifically AI 
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This seems like an extension of 
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It seems like they're going to 
any company they can and asking 

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for a fortune for them to spend 
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They say to put this in context,
Microsoft is known to have spent

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more than several $100 million 
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train Open AIS, current top of 
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open AICEO Sam Altman also has 
said cost more than $100 million

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to train. 
It's also known that Open AI is 

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already training a successor 
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GPT 5, on one of Microsoft's 
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And we know that Microsoft's 
last year broke ground on a new 

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$1 billion data center in 
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intended to house the chips for 
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generation models. 
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the supercomputing cluster in 
Wisconsin may eventually cost as

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much as 10 billion once the 
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chips used for AI applications 
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So Stargate is anywhere from 10 
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any of the data centers 
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books. 
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a factor of 100 times more 
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data centers. 
That is expensive. 

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Now they go on giving more 
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that a $100 billion investment 
is a lot of money even for 

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Microsoft, which is correct. 
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CapEx last year is less than 1/3
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If we look at it, we know that 
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entire company, their research 
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marketing, general and 
administrative, and CapEx did 

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not add up to $100 billion. 
So this is a massive fortune of 

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money that Sam Altman is wanting
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It seems a little bit more risky
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Microsoft does. 
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this, he would have to be 
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going to get a great return on 
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They say that Microsoft has to 
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being used for, it is not, in 
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Microsoft's partnership with 
Open Eye only entitles the tech 

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giant to commercialize Open AI's
technology, that falls short of 

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AGI. 
So basically, Microsoft can 

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commercialize everything up 
until AGI, but once Sam Altman 

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says we've accomplished AGI, 
they keep all the fruits of that

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for themselves, apparently. 
But there's a lot of skeptics, 

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both saying that we're not going
get returns off of this because 

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this is an outlandish amount of 
money, way too much to get any 

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reasonable ROI on it. 
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pointing out if they get to AGI,
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it. 
So there's no point for 

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Microsoft either way, they'd be 
footing a bill for something 

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that they're not going to get a 
return on. 

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Now normally when I look at a 
company and I consider them 

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spending a huge amount of money 
on some type of investment, that

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seems like a bit of a long shot.
Training an AI model that 

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hopefully you can monetize down 
the road, that raises a lot of 

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red flags. 
When I look at this story, it 

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just raises a lot of red flags. 
There's just alarm bells going 

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off. 
Most massive investments are not

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good for companies. 
Most of them are value 

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destructive. 
There's very few instances where

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you can do huge investments and 
have it be a creative for the 

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shareholder. 
For the company, there's a case 

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of Amazon doubling their 
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That was a massive investment, 
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They're satisfying their 
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believe I would trust more to 
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believes fully, you'll get a 
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investments. 
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waste shareholder money. 
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and without any regard to the 
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he's not one to take 
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don't have predictable returns 
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history. 
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the powerhouse and profitable 
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that I trust far more to make 
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the right judgment in this case 
than most CE OS. 

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this, looking at it and seeing 
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If they end up going forward 
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incredible story, an incredible 
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Now moving on, we have news, 
it's gone viral for probably the

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wrong reasons for Amazon. 
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Amazon, finally decided to pull 
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technology. 
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futuristic technology where you 
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you could go and take things off
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then Amazon on your app would 
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picked up without you doing any 
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carts, without anything, just 
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walking out. 
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It seemed really cool and 
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technology, and they decided 
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They're going to pivot from the 
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other companies are doing. 
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we have a normal shopping cart. 
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So it's not quite as futuristic,
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having a checkout, right? 
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shopping carts. 
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went viral. 
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wrong reasons for Amazon. 
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at some tweets here. 
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viewed 300,000 times. 
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technology, which was pitched as
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actually 1000 contractors in 
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cashiers, identifying what 
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tracking their purchases. 
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shopping carts with scanners. 
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This is Gurgaon on Twitter. 

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Popular account 4000 likes 
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A few years ago, Amazon 
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shoppers just grab whatever they
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manually track their purchases. 
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down this business. 
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Instead of using AI and using 
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1000 people from India watching 
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tracking your purchases 
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We have Max Byrne. 
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lot more views. 
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40,000 likes. 
Amazon build. 

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It's just walk out stores as 
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In reality, it was powered by 
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workers manually adding up items
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How insanely dystopian. 
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views. 
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tweets is to highlight the type 
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different online sources. 
These type of tweets not only 

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are completely inaccurate, but 
in sometimes they're just making

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up stuff like out of thin air. 
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it, they they reply based off of
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criticize companies based off of
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And this type of thing is 
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They use the most provocative 
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most engagement, but none of it 
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This tweet, for example, says 
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walkout tech, was powered by 
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workers. 
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says low paid, but there's no 
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just thrown that in because he 
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workers, Amazon must be 
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For all we know, Amazon could be
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so we have no evidence of that. 
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I think is more important is the
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tech, the just walkout tech, is 
solely powered by these workers 

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in India, like they were just 
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And that's how the system works,
that there really was no AI, no 

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technology. 
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fact powered by artificial 
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That was a system behind it. 
They hired a firm in India to 

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review some of the footage and 
make sure that the AI system was

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working appropriately. 
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manual reviews of Tesla's full 
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You have AI be the primary 
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have humans reviewing and 
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train the AI that is the system 
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Amazon said that this entire 
characterization that people are

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trying to make is inaccurate. 
They disputed how many of the 

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purchases even required reviews.
Quote The primary role of our 

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Machine Learning Data Associates
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which is necessary for 
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underlying machine learning 
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The spokesperson acknowledged 
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quote a small minority of 
shopping visits when AI can't 

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determine a purchase. 
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was powered by AI, but when some
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vague or the system couldn't 
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that's when they sent it over 
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to reflect reality. 
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system was powered by people in 
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That's the tweet because it gets
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Now we get to the news that I 
think is important for Disney 

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shareholders to know what is 
going on with this company 

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because I've been following 
Disney for a long period of time

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as an investor in media with 
Netflix, Disney's considered one

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of the primary competitors. 
And there's a vote going on 

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right now of whether or not 
Trayon Partners that has Nelson 

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Peltz can get seats on the 
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Every company has a board. 
They're the ones that are 

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supposed to kind of work for the
shareholders, to make sure the 

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executives and the company are 
working on behalf of the 

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shareholders. 
So the board of a company is 

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elected in order to keep the CEO
in check, in order to represent 

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the shareholders, to make sure 
they're not being taken 

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advantage of and everything's 
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Well, Tryon Partners or Treon, 
however you say it, they're 

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trying to get board seats 
because Nelson Peltz has 

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criticized the way that Disney 
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Disney doesn't like that. 
Disney doesn't want to change 

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their board. 
Disney does not want Nelson 

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Peltz or anyone else from the 
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They want to run things exactly 
like they have. 

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So Disney's doing everything 
they can to keep Nelson Peltz 

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off the board. 
They don't want this activist 

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investor that's been critical of
them to have any type of 

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influence over running the 
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So they're fighting this as much
as they can. 

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This rumor was released from 
insiders at Disney that Disney's

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winning the proxy fight against 
Trion with more than half the 

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votes. 
This is another showing of bad 

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behavior by the executive team 
at Disney. 

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They intentionally leaked this 
information that they're winning

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the vote in order to try to 
influence the remaining voters 

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saying, look, we're winning, if 
you don't vote with us, you're 

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going to maybe face 
repercussions. 

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Once this vote goes through and 
we win, we'll know who voted 

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against us. 
So they're trying to unfairly 

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and legally influence the 
remaining part of this vote by 

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leaking this information halfway
through before the vote is 

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complete. 
This is something that should be

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investigated by the SEC to see 
why this leak happened and how 

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it influences the remainder of 
the vote. 

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But regardless, we have Bob Iger
running the show now, the CEO 

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that's been with this company 
since 2005, He's morphed the 

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company into what it is today, 
and he's trying to protect his 

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influence at the company and get
rid of any type of harsh critic 

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of his performance over the past
10 years by trying to get Nelson

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Peltz out of Disney. 
Now just to review some of the 

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things that Bob Iger has done. 
He's extended his contract 

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repeatedly. 
You can see how many times it's 

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been extended over and over 
again. 

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So he's been the CEO from 2005 
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that's when Chapeck took over. 
But Bob Iger was still in a 

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position of control. 
He was looking over Chapeck's 

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shoulder. 
He was undermining him as he was

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the CEO. 
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back in and firing Chapeck after
his succession plan didn't go as

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well as planned. 
If we look at Bob Iger's 

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performance in history, Disney 
stock today. 

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Over a 10 year period, full 
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Now if we compare that against 
the S&P 500, let's just take a 

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look at the market. 
We can go back 10 years here. 

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The market's up 180%, Disney's 
up 50% and the market pays a 

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bigger dividend than Disney. 
So Disney has dramatically 

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underperformed the market. 
That is the performance of the 

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current CEO. 
That was the CEO 10 years ago. 

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Bob Iger owns this performance. 
This is his performance and he 

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can't blame anyone else for it 
during this time period. 

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It also wasn't just a mistake 
that Disney underperformed. 

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One of the best performing 
stocks in the market during this

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time period was Netflix. 
Let's go ahead and take a look 

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at Netflix performance over the 
past 10 years. 

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It is 1199%. 
Netflix has grown from a small 

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company ADVD rental business 
back in 2007, switching over to 

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streaming around 2013. 
So the beginning of this 

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timeline, and now it's grown 
into the biggest media company 

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in the world. 
It has a larger market cap than 

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Disney without having any parks,
any cruise lines, any broadways,

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all from streaming, all from 
media alone. 

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Disney is a smaller company than
Netflix, even counting its 

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parks. 
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10 years? 
Well, what caused this is Bob 

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Iger. 
He is the reason that Netflix is

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the size it is today. 
You can thank him for helping 

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build up Netflix during the 
early phases of Netflix's 

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streaming journey. 
They didn't have any content and

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they didn't have the budget to 
create their own content. 

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So they decided they would 
purchase license content from 

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other companies. 
One of them, in fact, one of the

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biggest ones being Disney. 
Disney licensed Marvel content. 

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They licensed Star Wars content.
They licensed Disney Animation 

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content. 
All of their key content being 

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put on this small streaming 
service because Bob Iger thought

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the best decision was to make a 
little bit extra cash, just make

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a little bit extra cash, putting
your streaming content on this 

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different platform, some of your
key series. 

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Meanwhile, Netflix at the same 
time period was gaining millions

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and millions of subscribers 
every single quarter. 

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You can look at the numbers 
every quarter they gained 

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millions and millions of 
subscribers, of course, growing 

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their reach and their revenue 
over time. 

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Netflix realized far before 
Disney did that Netflix was 

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going to grow to a size where 
the competitors would become 

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scared, where they would take 
away their content. 

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But by that point, it was too 
late. 

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By the time Bob has realized his
mistake of building Netflix into

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this unstoppable juggernaut, it 
was too late. 

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Netflix was already in position 
to create their own content. 

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They had a bunch of key series 
like Orange is the New Black, 

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Stranger Things, House of Cards,
all these different shows to 

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finally replace Disney content. 
But the thing that built Netflix

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into what it is today is a 
combination of Bob Iger at 

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Disney licensing Netflix all of 
the content they needed to build

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their service. 
Now he wasn't the only one to 

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blame. 
There is also Comcast with NBC 

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content like The Office, but 
Disney played a huge role. 

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Netflix would not be as powerful
and big today without Disney's 

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help. 
So just to recap, the reason 

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that Disney is in the situation 
it is today as being the second 

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largest media company behind 
Netflix, showing that it cannot 

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compete in streaming with 
Netflix and having this other 

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company surpass them 
dramatically. 

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And market cap and performance 
is because of the actions of the

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leadership of Disney. 
Unwittingly building up there 

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would be biggest competitor. 
That is the leadership and the 

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returns that Bob Iger has earned
for his company. 

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And now that there's someone 
else stepping in, a loud and 

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critical voice, Nelson Peltz, to
point out that this has been a 

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disaster. 
Returns have been horrible for 

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Disney shareholders. 
The company has been mismanaged 

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and they're losing to Netflix. 
Well, Bob Iger doesn't want to 

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hear it. 
He wants to remain at his 

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leadership position in Disney 
with no critical voices. 

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Bob Iger wants to assure you 
that he's got it under control. 

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He knows what's best for the 
company and its future, and we 

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don't need that. 
Nelson Peltz, he doesn't have 

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any experience in media. 
What does he have to offer? 

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That's not the point. 
The point isn't that Nelson 

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Peltz is some perfect solution 
to Disney's problems. 

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The point is that Nelson Peltz 
represents accountability. 

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Accountability to the 
shareholders. 

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The point that Bob Iger can't 
continue to run the company as 

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Aceo indefinitely without 
getting returns for the 

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shareholders. 
He either needs to get returns, 

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00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,400
strong returns for the company 
or needs to get let go one or 

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00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,480
the other. 
And Nelson Peltz brings that 

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accountability. 
So in this proxy fight, I hope 

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that Treon Partners wins. 
I hope that Nelson Peltz gets 

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his board seat because I I think
Disney lacks accountability, but

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00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000
it looks like they may not. 
So far it looks as though 

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Disney's going to win, and 
that's a shame for the Disney 

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00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,320
shareholder. 
Now finally, we have Steve 

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00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,120
Eisman, the Big Short Investor, 
going on to CNBC and making his 

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00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,360
case of why he believes the Fed 
should just keep interest rates 

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where they are for the rest of 
the year. 

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I feel that ever since Greenspan
was in charge of the Fed, the 

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Fed has always been extremely 
insensitive to its own impact on

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markets. 
And you know, when Powell said 

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that was it last, I think it was
last week. 

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It feels like an eternity ago 
that financial conditions are 

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tight. 
I was like, what planet do you 

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00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,160
want? 
So I mean, my view is the 

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economy is fine. 
There should be. 

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00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,440
I personally think there should 
be no Fed cuts this year. 

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He doesn't think there should be
any Fed cuts this year, and I 

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must agree with him. the Fed is 
saying one thing. 

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They're saying financial 
conditions are very tight, 

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right? 
We have interest rates at 5%. 

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I guess if you're looking at 
some parts of the economy with 

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the housing market that's frozen
up, the car market doesn't seem 

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00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,680
to be doing too well. 
Tesla didn't hit their numbers. 

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00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,320
E VS are going down. 
You have like solar companies 

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00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,160
that I think are struggling, 
pool companies selling big 

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00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,760
expensive things like that are 
struggling. 

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But the financial markets, if 
you look at the stock market, 

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it's going up. 
This year has been a great year.

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00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,800
It's one of the best starts to 
the year of any year in history.

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00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,880
So I agree with him. 
When the Fed is saying the 

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00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,240
financial markets aren't looking
great, what is he talking about?

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00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,640
The financial markets overall 
are doing really well. 

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00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,800
You know, the market will do 
whatever the market does, but 

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00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,880
the economy is fine. 
Why would you cut? 

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00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,240
You know, my my actual fear is 
that if the Fed were actually to

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00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,920
cut rates, the market goes into 
so it becomes, I guess 

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00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,040
bubblicious and then and then we
have a real problem, so. 

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So Steve Iseman is concerned 
that if we have interest rate 

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cuts the end of this year, the 
stock market will go up ten 

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00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,800
2030% and we'll have another 
bubble territory just like 2021 

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00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,720
where stocks are so far above 
any relevant intrinsic value 

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00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,480
that you can't even own stocks 
without fear of the bubble 

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00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,240
collapsing, of everything 
imploding which will eventually 

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00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,840
happen if you're in a bubble. 
So I agree with them. 

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00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,920
I don't think stocks going up is
always a good thing. 

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00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,800
I like my stocks to go up 
because their free cash flow 

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00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,960
goes up, because their earnings 
per share goes up, because their

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00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,920
organic revenue grows, because 
they do buybacks and pay 

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00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,400
dividends. 
I do not like them to go up just

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00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,320
because investors are buying 
more and more of them in a a 

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00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,400
fervourish excitement. 
So I agree I don't want a 

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00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,560
bubble. 
And if the Fed lowering interest

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00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,560
rates this year causes a bubble,
I wouldn't think that's the best

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00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,680
thing to do. 
But I'm not convinced that 

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00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,960
lowering interest rates this 
year would cause a bubble. 

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00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,840
I think that's what's already 
priced in and I think that's 

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00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,920
what's causing stocks to go up 
already. 

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00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,360
In fact, I believe the Fed comes
out and says they're not 

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00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:53,680
lowering interest rates this 
year. 

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00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,120
The stock market will go down, 
So what he's saying will cause a

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00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,600
bubble I think is already priced
in. 

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00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,600
Investors are expecting interest
rates to be lowered. 

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00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,880
So why? 
What? 

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00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,520
What's causing the Fed to talk 
about six rate cuts six months 

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00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,360
ago? 
My personal opinions. 

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00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,840
I think Powell is as deep down 
as just a dove. 

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00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,160
Just he's always been a dove. 
He, you know, raising rates was 

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00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,160
out of character for him. 
He had to do it and he he wants 

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00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,680
to cut. 
Rate. 

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00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,320
So he thinks the right thing to 
do is to keep interest rates 

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00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,880
where they're at. 
But he believes the Fed will 

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00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,200
probably lower them just because
they're a dove. 

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00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,600
And a dove is a way of 
describing a Fed that likes an 

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00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,880
easy monetary environment, low 
interest rates and lots of 

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00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,280
stimulus, the best environment 
to have business and commerce. 

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00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,840
And I agree with him. 
I think the Fed and the 

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00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,600
administration is very dovish. 
And that's part of the reason I 

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00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,400
believe it's so important to own
assets right now because if you 

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have a dovish environment, 
assets typically go up in value.

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00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,920
So that's going to be it for 
this episode. 

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I hope you enjoyed. 
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