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Welcome back everyone today on 
the Joseph Carlson Show. 

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Now, it's true that last week we
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earnings that are massive 
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We've already heard from 
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Google and Amazon and Microsoft,
many of the biggest companies in

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the world. 
But this week we still have a 

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lot of important companies 
reporting earnings, including 

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Palantir today. 
Is it true that Palantir is the 

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most overvalued company of all 
time that's ever existed all 

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throughout humanity? 
Or is there more to Palantir? 

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We'll be looking at that one. 
It's reporting earnings. 

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Aftermarket closed today and 
then throughout the rest of the 

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week, we have more and more 
companies reporting earnings, 

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including Uber and AMD and 
Spotify and Shopify and DoorDash

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and FICO and Texas Roadhouse and
even Duolingo, one of the most 

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viral investments I've ever 
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Duolingo's all anybody wants to 
talk about, but I'll be telling 

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you what's really going to be 
happening with Duolingo's 

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earnings this week. 
Now, outside of the earnings 

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reports coming up this week, we 
also have big news that Tom Lee 

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went on to CNBC. 
He reiterated that he believes 

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the market's going to continue 
upwards this week aggressively. 

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He believes the bull market will
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We also have news that Amazon, 
one of my largest positions, 

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they announced the big deal, the
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And then finally we have the 
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case is the leader of Open AI, 
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In an interview, one of his 
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biggest advocates and 
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asked a very simple, benign 
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open AI can fulfill on some of 
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And Sam Altman reacted sharply 
and defensively, rebuking him 

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and challenging him to short the
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We'll be going over this 
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and why it's the fail of the 
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So we have a ton to get to, a 
lot to go through in this 

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episode. 
And we kick things off today by 

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looking at the earnings 
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You can sign up directly on 
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And part of this, you get an 
earnings calendar that shows you

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Monday through Friday before 
market open, after market close.

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You can actually filter it by 
your watch list. 

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For example, I can say companies
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these are the ones that I'm 
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Or I can say companies that I 
currently own, these are the 

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ones that I'm looking at, right?
There's lots of controls on this

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and it tells you a lot of 
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In this case, we're going to be 
looking at Palantir. 

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Palantir is the first major 
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this week and it's reporting 
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When I look at Palantir, there 
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on with Palantir. 
One of the stories is that this 

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company is just amazing. 
It it really is. 

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You don't see a lot of companies
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like this on 1/4 to quarter 
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It seems strong acceleration 
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already growing quickly. 
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already growing really fast and 
then it starts to accelerate 

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faster where it's the fastest 
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by this revenue size, that's 
notable and that's why investors

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are in on this company. 
The revenue growth is absolutely

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insane and it's driven by strong
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You have the US customer count 
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That's not a lot of customers, 
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meaningful customers. 
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they get a lot of revenue out of
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It's actually incredible. 
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metrics and I will smooth some 
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flows are a little bit more 
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But if we look at the free cash 
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flow line of a very strong fast 
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The free cash flow is less than 
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The free cash flow is 1.7 
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months of last quarter and it's 
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growing rather quick from six 
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past year or so. 
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cash is up, the margins continue
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So Palantir is a world class AI 
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growth and with each customer 
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revenue and they offer a product
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one of the most hot bull 
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The other part of the story is 
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The valuation of Palantir is the
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before in the stock market ever.
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in the past 10 years of me 
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every single day, but I've also 
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I, I've never read about it in a
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I've never seen an instance like
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This is genuinely, frankly, new 
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Palantir investors are stepping 
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valuation. 
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that has over a $400 billion 
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So this isn't some $5 billion 
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expectations. 
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Salesforce. 
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company, 400 plus billion dollar
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of 134 trailing on a forward 
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The price to sales is about 90. 
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seen before ever. 
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strong combination of the 
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which are again they're 
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Now if we look at a visual hair,
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when you map out the PE ratio 
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the highest PES in the market. 
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really coming close. 
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a price to forward-looking sales
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anyone else. 
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valuation of any company in the 
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So we have these two sides of 
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company with incredible 
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valuation that prices in a ton 
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stock in a very difficult spot 
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it's far too reliant on far too 
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I think it's too reliant on it. 
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believe if there's any 
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whatsoever, the stock is is 
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That's what you you have baked 
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Now Palantir investors may be 
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Maybe it continues to just 
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maybe becomes a trillion dollar 
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That could be the case, but I 
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bets, ones that are a little bit
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rely on a company already 
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to be on its revenue and its 
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Now if we go back to the weekly 
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only meaningful 1 today. 
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market open, we have Shopify, 
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Let's go ahead and start off 
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This is one that I've had on the
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I really like Shopify. 
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There's a lot more to it than 
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People just view Shopify as an 
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Shopify is hosting massive 
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businesses. 
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Amazon or walmart.com, you're 
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Shopify. 
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this company continue to talk 
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generally all throughout the 
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and European expansion. 
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that category. 
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powered commerce tools, recent 
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checkout kit, the expansion of 
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represent Shopify's push into AI
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intertwining their entire 
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and services. 
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Shopify to get into bigger 
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and new industry verticals. 
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larger enterprise merchants and 
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as B to B industrial and non 
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emphasized as a growth lever. 
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looking at whether or not 
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goal of getting these larger 
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not even business to customer. 
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business websites now, 
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solutions, payments and shop 
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with Shopify. 
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So they're also growing again as
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PayPal or for or another payment
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which I think is a really good 
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I'd give Shopify about a 70% 
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revenue and earnings. 
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Next up, we have Uber, one of 
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This is one that a lot of 
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reporting earnings. 
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that I've always had a positive 
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I gave it a 90% chance of being 
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that Tesla, Waymo, all those 
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Uber and that kind of 
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What I like, like I thought 
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That's not likely to happen. 
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Uber will find a way to just 
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from what Waymo and and Tesla 
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announced that they're opening 
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that's going to affect Uber, but
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investors just aren't concerned 
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Waymo and the expansion of 
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price. 
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Uber stock. 
I like it a lot. 

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And again, part of the reason I 
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one of those stocks that's not 
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It's not giving me that nice 
juicy opportunity where people 

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are scared about it, where it's 
going down like crazy that I can

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enter a position since I already
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I've just been waiting on Uber. 
I really like the direction 

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Uber's going and the enthusiasm 
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He's always launching new 
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He's excited about the future of
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He seems really focused with 
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Then we have the big overhang or
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which now is not as much of A 
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made significant progress in 
autonomous vehicles, expanding 

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operations with Waymo and Austin
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partnerships with Neuro, Lucid, 
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The focus in the upcoming 
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deployments and evaluating the 
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rates and operational 
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Investors should be attentive to
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consumer adoption rates, and 
further OEM partnerships 

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announced. 
Now this is 1 where I look at 

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what the CE OS doing and he's, 
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Any time he talks about 
autonomous driving, he talks 

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super bullishly about it. 
He says it's going to be a big 

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part of the future. 
He says he'll, he'll rattle off 

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a big list of partners that they
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Baidu, so on and so forth. 
Everybody wants to partner with 

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Uber to try to paint Uber as the
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see is a little different. 
I think the reality is a little 

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different. 
I think a lot of these 

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partnerships are on paper 
partnerships like with Neuro and

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Lucid and Baidu. 
We're not seeing them have real 

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autonomous rides all across the 
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so far. 
Those are just partnerships that

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they agreed to work together. 
The only real robo taxi company 

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today that offers meaningful 
rides, weekly rides, ones that 

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are real, that customers are 
paying for, that there's no 

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employee in the vehicles is 
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That's the only one. 
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halfway with Uber. 
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opening, they're doing it 
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though the CEO is saying we're 

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at the center of attention, 
everybody's, everybody's 

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partnered with us. 
He's leaving out that Waymo is 

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partnering with them halfway. 
Tesla's not partnering with them

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at all. 
Tesla could get to a point where

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in many of the cities they could
offer rides without employees 

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and have a genuine robo taxi 
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Uber, that could cast an 

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additional hurdle for the 
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important is there's again, a 

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lot of focus on the Uber app, 
which is great. 

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The Waymo app is also 
phenomenal. 

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It has a five star rating with 
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Everybody loves Waymo. 
They don't just love Uber, they 

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love Waymo and they love Waymo 
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So I feel like there's, even 
though there's progress here, I 

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still feel like this is a 
potential concern for the 

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company. 
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make up a very tiny 
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total rides. 
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the market share of Uber. 
It will start to offer delivery 

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for for food. 
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like they're doing with DoorDash
a VS will control this market. 

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So personally, right now, even 
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the progress that it's making. 
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I'm sorry to say it. 
I know it's not a shock. 

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I just love the positioning of 
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I think it's just a little bit 
more advantageous positioning we

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have from the company. 
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really like is that they're 
buying back shares like crazy. 

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I think they'll be on their 
expectations. 

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I think the CEO has a lot of 
great narratives and stories to 

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sell to investors. 
And I don't think that they're 

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false stories. 
I think they're just good 

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stories to tell. 
So I think that Uber has a 

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bright path. 
More than likely, I think it's 

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still going to be a profitable 
investment for a very long 

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period of time. 
Now continuing on, again, this 

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is a super busy week. 
Looking at the calendar, we 

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still have Spotify at the same 
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Then we have AMD. 
We have Robin Hood and two 

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companies that are pretty small,
but if I filter them out, we 

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have a Duolingo on Wednesday. 
That's a company that a lot of 

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people are interested in. 
And we have Texas Roadhouse, a 

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company that I still have as a a
fairly large holding, one of my 

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biggest winners ever. 
I'll be going over that one as 

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well. 
But we continue on with Spotify.

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Let's go ahead and just take a 
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What I expect to see with 
Spotify in this earnings is I 

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expect to see continued monthly 
active user growth. 

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Spotify is the quintessential 
example of a company that faces 

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lots of competition. 
It's it's a company that has so 

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many places you can listen to 
music, but because their product

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is free, it's more refined, it 
has a better user interface 

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experience, and they already 
have the network effects of many

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people already using the 
product, which allows it to be a

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little bit better than the 
competition. 

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That equates to exponential 
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So even though Spotify faces 
YouTube Music and Apple Music 

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and all these large competitors,
you'd think that that was slow 

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down Spotify's growth. 
But again, users will use 

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whatever product is slightly 
best as long as they're all 

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around the same price or free. 
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Spotify cost the same amount 
that any other streaming service

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cost, roughly speaking. 
And because of that, users 

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gravitate to which one they like
the most, which is almost always

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going to be Spotify. 
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growing to nearly 700 million 
active users. 

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This product will go above a 
billion active users in less 

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than a year or so. 
I think it's going to be there 

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like less than two years for 
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It's just such a huge market. 
We're going to see Spotify lean 

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into more digital AI ads, 
leveraging the same playbook 

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that Meta did. 
We're going to see Spotify 

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continue to grow and daily 
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We'll see the company embrace 
video. 

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They're now embracing video 
along with Netflix and along 

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with YouTube. 
I see Spotify as more of a 

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direct competitor to YouTube 
than Netflix. 

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But the market's so big for 
streaming video that all of 

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these companies can win. 
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monetization increase, the AI 
tools like the AIDJ, all that 

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type of stuff, increase, more 
podcasts, all of that good 

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stuff. 
I'm very excited about this 

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company. 
If I was an owner of Spotify and

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I'd bought the company earlier, 
I would just continue to hold 

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it. 
But that's such a premium 

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valuation that I haven't entered
a position. 

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Now moving on down the week, we 
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close. 
And the big one we have here is 

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a MDAMD is done exceptionally 
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It's up 112% year to date. 
You have them announcing deals 

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with open AI. 
They're kind of in the loop in 

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the game now. 
The narrative of them being left

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behind is kind of faded a bit. 
So AMD is now a serious 

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competitor in this AI race. 
They're betting everything on 

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these deals with open AI and I 
think that the leadership has 

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done a fantastic job there. 
It trades at a very high 

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valuation, 46 forward price to 
earnings, free cash flow yield 

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below 1%. 
When you factor in stock based 

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comp, it's below .7%. 
So a lot of this is future 

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bullishness. 
That's fine. 

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The company deserves to have 
some future bullishness. 

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But just know this is again a 
company that has a lot of future

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priced into it. 
I expect AMD to be on their 

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earnings and revenue. 
It's a company that usually 

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does. 
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They beat on every single 
quarter except for one over the 

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past four years. 
We look at the revenue. 

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This is again the odds are in 
your favour of this company 

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coming in above and there's no 
reason over the past quarter 

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that they should come in under 
and even if they do, their 

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guidance should more than make 
up for it. 

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This is again a company that has
numerous bullish catalysts going

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into this earnings. 
So I can't see anything going 

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too wrong this earnings. 
I'd be shocked if there's a big 

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sell off, maybe it could happen,
but I don't see it. 

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Now moving forward throughout 
the week, we get into Wednesday 

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before market open, there's none
too interesting there. 

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Aftermarket closes, really where
we get into it. 

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We have FICO right down here 
reporting earnings as well as 

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way down here, one of the 
smaller companies, it's in My 

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Portfolio, which is Duolingo. 
I'll go ahead and just mention a

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few things on FICO before 
jumping into Duolingo. 

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My summary of how I feel about 
FICO right now is I believe the 

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company fundamentally will do 
well. 

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It's going to continue growing. 
They have a lot of pricing 

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power. 
They're competing well against 

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Equifax and the other credit 
bureaus, but I believe the 

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company is not going to be too 
rewarded by investors because I 

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I think that this area, the high
quality companies, the credit 

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bureaus, this whole category is 
a category that the market 

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hasn't given a lot of love. 
And markets go through trends 

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like this. 
There's momentum factors, 

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there's different segments of 
the market that get more 

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attention at different time 
periods despite fundamental 

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performance. 
So if you're a FICO investor, I 

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think whatever happens this 
week, I think it's a company 

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that you probably hold on to put
in the back burner because 

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eventually as the cash flows and
earnings move up, so does the 

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stock price. 
Now, Next up, we get to 

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everyone's favorite to have an 
opinion on, which is Duolingo. 

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Duolingo's a stock that 
everybody knows which direction 

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it's going. 
You know for sure the stock is 

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going up, or you know for sure 
that this is just an app and the

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stock is terrible and it's going
to go down. 

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Everyone has a solid opinion on 
this company because frankly, 

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it's just a very popular user 
app. 

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It's a company that everybody 
knows about. 

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We've all heard about it. 
Many of us have used it. 

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So Duolingo is one that 
everybody has their opinion on. 

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But I want to kind of share my 
thought process when looking at 

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this company. 
First of all, I own Duolingo. 

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I have, I have a a little size 
position. 

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It's a very small size position 
that I intentionally position 

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small because of the inherent 
volatility. 

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And I'd see increased risk of 
this company over most of the 

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companies that I invest in. 
For example, in the story fund, 

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which is now above a $400,000 
portfolio, $182,000 in gains. 

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This portfolio is crushing it. 
It's just concentrated in 

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Google, Netflix and Amazon. 
These companies are are all 

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doing well. 
Even Netflix or Amazon rather is

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now pulling its weight, going up
like crazy in a short amount of 

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time. 
We'll get to more Amazon news 

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here soon, but we have Duolingo 
right here at the bottom. 

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This is the only one that I'm in
the red on. 

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It's also my most recent 
position. 

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Duolingo's an $18,500 holding as
of now, 5400 in the red. 

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Now, before I jump into this 
one, I just want to address and 

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go over the reasons that I own 
this company, as well as address

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many of the bare cases. 
I've heard a lot of feedback, a 

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lot of concerns about this 
company, and I just want to go 

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through them. 
First of all, we have the 

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comments. 
The Duolingo's just an app. 

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Like you're going to invest in 
just an app. 

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Like just an app, $12 billion 
for that. 

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Well, I don't really agree. 
I mean, I kind of agree with 

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that assessment. 
Duolingo's just an app, but just

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an app kind of downplays or 
denigrates something that can be

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incredibly profitable. 
Open AI and Chachi BT is, is 

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sort of just an app, like most 
people use Open A IS products on

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their app. 
When you look at Instagram, 

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where are most people accessing 
Instagram? 

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Are they doing it on their big 
desktop screens or their TV's? 

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They're accessing Instagram on 
the phone. 

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So in that case, you could say 
Instagram's just an app. 

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It's a very valuable app. 
We could say the same for many, 

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many big companies where their 
products are primarily accessed 

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on an app. 
The next thing is that Duolingo 

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is a company that's overpriced 
because it has high churn. 

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People don't stick with it. 
I have not seen the churn rates 

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for this company. 
There's third party estimates, 

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but every single company that's 
a subscription company has 

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churn. 
Every single one of them. 

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Some companies have less churn 
because they have like more lock

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in or there's higher barriers to
entry, but they also don't have 

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nearly as much growth. 
Ave. 

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Duolingo has a nice business 
model where the reason why it 

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has this 40% revenue growth, 
which will probably grow around 

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35% this quarter, some slight 
deceleration, which is fully 

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expected. 
But the reason why it has such 

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fast revenue growth is they 
bring people in on the freemium 

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tear and then they convert them 
to the paid tear. 

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Over time, that creates a nice 
ease of access. 

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Duolingo's accessible to 
everyone. 

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They bring you in, then they 
convert you. 

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So Duolingo does have churn like
every subscription company, but 

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they also have a great organic 
growth path similar to Spotify, 

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where they bring in users for 
free and they convert them to 

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the more premium tears over 
time. 

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That's been proven and you can 
see it in all the data. 

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The revenue overall is $885 
million. 

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The subscription revenue is 734.
Almost all the revenue they make

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is subscription, and you see the
subscription revenue growing at 

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00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:58,680
even 47% year over year. 
As they're increasing the amount

456
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,760
that they're converting over 
time, they're getting better at 

457
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,880
converting free users to paid. 
So I don't see a lot of evidence

458
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,520
at Duolingo's churning through 
users. 

459
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560
How would their subscription 
growth continue to grow at the 

460
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,960
skyrocketing pace? 
Also, there's more data to show 

461
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,400
that they're not churning 
through users all that fast. 

462
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,960
Their daily active users grew 
40%. 

463
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,120
These are people using it every 
single day. 

464
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,960
They have a lot of daily active 
users, 47.7 million. 

465
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:25,200
That puts them in the top tier 
of social media companies on the

466
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,000
amount of people that are using 
this service every single day. 

467
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,920
We have monthly active users 
continuing to grow. 

468
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:34,440
We had one tick downwards 
because of impact of a viral 

469
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,520
social media campaign. 
But again, the daily active 

470
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,280
users are the committed users 
and the paid users are 

471
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,320
continuing to grow as well. 
Over 10.9 million paid users, if

472
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,880
we take a step back of what 
we're actually investing in with

473
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,760
Duolingo, I look at it as a 
company that's not just a 

474
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,680
language learning app. 
Language learning is is a big 

475
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,440
segment and it's one that they 
started in to get fast growth. 

476
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,520
But management has made it 
abundantly clear that they want 

477
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,120
to be the digital learning app 
that has the largest network 

478
00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,760
effects, the one that everybody 
goes to as this starting place 

479
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,120
for digital learning. 
There's going to be all sorts of

480
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:09,960
places to learn. 
There'll be AI tools, there's 

481
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,240
schools and colleges and classes
and tutors and everything from 

482
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,640
A-Z Learning is is. 
So is such a big category. 

483
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,320
There's also going to be one 
large digital concentrated 

484
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,120
position, one company that 
dominates for the app based 

485
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,920
digital learning environment and
that company is Duolingo. 

486
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,440
If there's going to be a big 
winner in this category, it's 

487
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,720
Duolingo. 
Just like there's one big winner

488
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,120
in ride sharing, which is Uber, 
there's a a big winner in social

489
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,120
media, which is Facebook, 
There's a big winner in 

490
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:47,040
streaming TV, which is Netflix, 
There's a big winner in audio, 

491
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,920
which is Spotify. 
There's one big company 

492
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,640
dominating Ed tech learning 
going into new categories, which

493
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,280
is Duolingo. 
So you can argue that Duolingo 

494
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,360
isn't a good investment, but 
then you're arguing that no 

495
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,280
company in Ed tech is a good 
investment. 

496
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,640
No company that really makes 
their major focus on app based 

497
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,520
learning is a good investment 
because they'll be clouded out 

498
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,320
by other companies, other AI 
companies, other other products.

499
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,040
Maybe that's the case that that 
could be right. 

500
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,000
Maybe maybe the critics are 
right there. 

501
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,160
But at least for now, it's a bet
that I'm willing to make that 

502
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,000
this company could really have 
huge network effects and grow 

503
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,240
into this massive category. 
But still believe there's room. 

504
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,400
There's a room for a big winner 
amongst many other smaller 

505
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,600
winners in this category. 
There's going to be lots of 

506
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,200
companies that teach language 
learning, lots of companies that

507
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,920
do live translation, lots of 
companies that teach chess, lots

508
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,840
of companies that teach math, 
lots of companies that teach 

509
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,040
music. 
But Duolingo will be a company 

510
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,240
that brings all of this together
and offers a very streamlined, 

511
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,040
easy to use product that teaches
all of those things. 

512
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,120
Their growth in chess alone, I 
think is really good. 

513
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,640
Their growth in the math segment
is good. 

514
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,640
They're also growing in music. 
They're going to offer more 

515
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,880
categories over time. 
I think it's a matter of time 

516
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,840
before Duolingo starts teaching 
science. 

517
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,960
I think it's just a natural 
growth path. 

518
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,880
So if you have kids or you want 
to learn about a scientific 

519
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,240
endeavour, you can go through 
Duolingo and go through the 

520
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,040
standardized courses in a very 
fun and streamlined way that has

521
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,560
ladders, rankings, has 
encouraging things that keep you

522
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,360
learning. 
When I look at Duolingo, what I 

523
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,640
believe will happen this quarter
is I believe that the monthly 

524
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,720
active users will be the weak 
spot. 

525
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,680
So the monthly active users like
the last quarter, I think is 

526
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,080
going to be below expectations, 
a little bit slower than 

527
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:36,120
expected because I believe the 
move from hearts to energy is 

528
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,920
going to cause some churn. 
Some of the users that only want

529
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,320
Duolingo for free forever, they 
want to use it all the time 

530
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,040
without paying a dime. 
They're going to turn off of the

531
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,800
app. 
But I think that it's going to 

532
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,800
cause higher conversions for the
existing users. 

533
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,280
So my prediction is we'll see a 
dynamic here where the monthly 

534
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,720
active users will struggle, but 
the daily active users will 

535
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,400
continue to go up as well as 
especially the paid subscribers.

536
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,480
I think paid subscribers will 
stay very strong, maybe even 

537
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,720
come in better than expected 
because of the conversion rate 

538
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960
going up. 
But this one is impossible to 

539
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,040
tell what direction it's going 
to trade. 

540
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:14,280
It is so volatile. 
It'll either go up 15% or down 

541
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,760
15% or even more. 
It's one of the most crazy 

542
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,160
stocks that I've ever been a 
part of. 

543
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,120
The stock price is interesting 
with this company, but again, if

544
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,720
you're invested as a fundamental
investor, you're looking at the 

545
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,400
long term future of it, the 
revenue growth, the paid 

546
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,800
subscribers, and of course the 
profitability. 

547
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,040
This one should continue to grow
earnings per share at a very 

548
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,280
fast clip and as long as that 
continues, I'll stay invested in

549
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,240
the company. 
Now moving on, we get to Texas 

550
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,160
Roadhouse reporting earnings on 
Thursday. 

551
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,040
This is one that's in my passive
income portfolio. 

552
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,760
So if we look at this, this is a
a $900,000 plus portfolio, 

553
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,440
360,000 of that being gains. 
We look at Texas Roadhouse and 

554
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,160
it's in the restaurant category.
Let's go ahead and check it out 

555
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,000
here. 
It is a $42,000 position, 

556
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,680
$38,000 in gains. 
Now this position grew to around

557
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,400
$75,000 and I sold about half of
it. 

558
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,960
So I've taken a lot off the 
table on this one. 

559
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:09,600
And part of the reason why is 
because as good as Texas 

560
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600
Roadhouse is, which I, I believe
it's a top tier restaurant, it 

561
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,240
really is. 
I don't like having a small 

562
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,240
restaurant as a top three 
position. 

563
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,600
I just don't feel comfortable 
with it again, and that's saying

564
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,520
a lot because I really like 
Texas Roadhouse. 

565
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,840
I think the company is 
phenomenal. 

566
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,640
It's a genuine compounding 
machine. 

567
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,280
It's outperformed many of the 
best tech companies over the 

568
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,760
past 20 years, but I feel like 
there's some prudency in taking 

569
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,640
a restaurant down in size as a 
position. 

570
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,400
For example, the top position in
Bill Ackman's portfolio or one 

571
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,840
of the biggest has been Chipotle
for a long period of time. 

572
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,960
This is also a company that I 
was very bullish on, but I sold 

573
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,800
it at around $55. 
Around that price point. 

574
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,560
I can look at my trading history
with this company and I started 

575
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,080
exiting Chipotle from July 11th 
to July 18th. 

576
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,680
My sell price was around $52, so
that's when I was selling the 

577
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,840
company. 
We look at Chipotle today and 

578
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,320
it's it's now at $31.00. 
The stock price has been 

579
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,120
obliterated. 
So this is the problem with 

580
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,280
restaurants in general. 
Of course, this can happen to 

581
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,440
any company, but restaurants are
just a bit more risky. 

582
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,040
They they're a little bit more 
volatile because they have such 

583
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,080
low margins compared to other 
companies. 

584
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,320
Any changes in revenue 
trajectory, any changes in input

585
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,480
costs like avocado prices, beef 
prices, will dramatically affect

586
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,560
their profitability. 
When I look at Texas Roadhouse 

587
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,640
today, I don't expect anything 
massive from this earnings 

588
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,920
report. 
I think this is going to be a 

589
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,600
business as usual week and I 
think Texas Roadhouse will be 

590
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,440
fine. 
The valuation isn't crazy, It's 

591
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,440
not super cheap, it's not super 
expensive. 

592
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320
It's right in line. 
The restaurant is doing better 

593
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,760
than its peers. 
It still has a really good value

594
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,960
proposition. 
So I'm going to continue holding

595
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,600
this one throughout earnings. 
So there we have this huge week.

596
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,640
Overall, I feel very positive 
about most of these companies. 

597
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,600
I don't think there's any that 
I'm too overly concerned about 

598
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,440
and neither is Tom Lee. 
Tom Lee was once again on CNBC 

599
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,280
making his appearance and you'll
be shocked to know what he 

600
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720
thinks. 
Tom Lee thinks the markets going

601
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,040
up. 
Now you can criticize him for 

602
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,480
just being a permeable, but he 
has been correct for a long 

603
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,880
period of time. 
And even where other investors 

604
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,280
were panicking, Tom Lee said 
that this stuff is going to be 

605
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,240
short lived, that the market's 
going to go higher, and we'll go

606
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840
through his main arguments of 
why the market will continue to 

607
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,720
go higher throughout this year. 
The first reason that this 

608
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,640
market will continue to go up is
historical presidents. 

609
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,840
He outlines how what has 
happened over the past six 

610
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,400
months is a huge indication that
we're going to have a strong 

611
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,200
close to the end of this year. 
That's right. 

612
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,000
I think the market has a lot of 
walls of worry because we've got

613
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,560
the shutdown, we've got China, 
we got the Fed speak, but the 

614
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,440
markets been up six months in a 
row now only 6 times since 1928 

615
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,880
that's happened. 
So it if you look at November, 

616
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,280
we're up five or six times and 
in 1942, it was flat. 

617
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,760
So basically November should be 
really strong, I think at least 

618
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,440
200 points on the SMB. 
So this isn't a fundamentally 

619
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,160
related argument, but it's just 
based off of how market trading 

620
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,760
history has worked. 
Based off of history, we should 

621
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,600
continue to go up. 
The next point he brings up is 

622
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,320
how the market is actually 
negative in its sentiment. 

623
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,720
It's not bullish right now, 
which is a bullish point to 

624
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440
bring up, not positive, is it? 
You mentioned the wall of worry.

625
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Yeah, I mean, if you look at it 
like AAII, the average sentiment

626
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,480
this year is still -11.5 like 
net, sadly bearish. 

627
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,880
That's only happened three other
times in 35 years, all in the 

628
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,200
middle of bear market. 
So investors feel like it's a 

629
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,600
bear market, but we're up 17%, 
which kind of tells me, I think 

630
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,440
there's a big performance chase 
into your rent. 

631
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,280
You know over 80% of fund 
managers are missing their 

632
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,000
benchmark this year. 
Over 80% of fund managers are 

633
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000
missing their benchmarks this 
year because all the gains have 

634
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,800
been concentrated in a handful 
of few companies and there's 

635
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,280
been widespread bear sentiment. 
He believes that that's actually

636
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,640
bullish throughout the end of 
this year because you'll have 

637
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,560
the people that have been left 
out going, oh man, I, I gotta, I

638
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,320
gotta get in this market like 
the it's racing away from me. 

639
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,400
And they will chase the gains. 
They'll push up prices even 

640
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,360
further chasing the gains 
because they've been left out. 

641
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280
The next point he brings up 
after that is that inflation 

642
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600
continues to fall. 
He said it's rapidly falling 

643
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,120
inflation. 
That's right, because, you know,

644
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,600
we have a good Fed futures to 
look at what's implied for 

645
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,360
inflation. 
You know, the Fed looks at the 

646
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,240
bond market, bond market figures
things out before the data comes

647
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,920
out. 
I do think the inflation is 

648
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,240
probably falling a lot faster 
than everyone expects. 

649
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800
I mean, you can look at true 
flation and we're down to sub 2%

650
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,360
inflation. 
So we get a lot of conflicting 

651
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,280
reports on this. 
Some people are saying inflation

652
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,480
is ticking back upwards. 
Tom Lee's saying there's 

653
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,240
actually a lot of evidence that 
it's plummeting, it's going 

654
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,440
down, and the bond market has 
already figured out this 

655
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,680
dynamic. 
Tom Lee continues on in this 

656
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,440
appearance, making his case for 
why the market's going higher 

657
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,520
this time. 
He points to record 

658
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,120
profitability that margins are 
actually moving up for 

659
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,440
companies. 
Yeah. 

660
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,640
I mean, I think there is 
something the market's trying to

661
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,080
figure out, which is AI is 
consuming jobs, but that's 

662
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,720
turning it into profits for 
corporate. 

663
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,360
So like profits are expanding 
and then we have profit margins 

664
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,480
have actually been going up in 
the middle of tariffs. 

665
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,800
So how are companies able to 
take 70% of the tariff hit, but 

666
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,320
margins are going up. 
So there must be a productivity 

667
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,960
boom somewhere. 
And then we have, like you said,

668
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,080
7 trying to cash on the 
sidelines, but we have high 

669
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,400
rates. 
And so the Fed, I kind of think 

670
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,040
is trying to not overheat the 
economy. 

671
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,440
But we know that you just point 
out like housing's in big 

672
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,200
trouble. 
So I would say it makes sense if

673
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,640
inflation's in a good place and 
jobs aren't really strengthening

674
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,240
for cuts to happen, and that 
would be really dovish. 

675
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,960
So I think that sort of comes 
together before the end of the 

676
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,040
year. 
So there we have it. 

677
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,920
Tom Lee is once again bullish. 
We've seen it before, but he 

678
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,440
typically gets this right and I 
think he might be right once 

679
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,960
again. 
Now moving on, we have some big 

680
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,400
news for Amazon. 
They were officially invited to 

681
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,880
the party. 
They're part of the the big Boy 

682
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,440
club. 
Now they have an Open AI deal 

683
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,800
officially announced. 
Now, this one is actually a 

684
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,480
small deal, which is funny 
because Open AI announced a huge

685
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,920
deal with Oracle, but they 
announced a small, a small deal 

686
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,000
with Amazon. 
But in any case, this is a 

687
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,760
positive, a positive sentiment 
announcement for Amazon. 

688
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,840
The stock is up 4.7%. 
And we look at the deal. 

689
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,240
It's a $38 billion multi year 
partnership to run and scale its

690
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,840
AI workloads and Amazon Web 
Services, a move that investors 

691
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,400
read as a major win for AWS in 
the AI compute race. 

692
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,160
And AWS even previewed that this
is going to happen. 

693
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,840
They gave you a little bit of a 
heads up. 

694
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,800
In fact, we have here, if you 
were paying attention, the 

695
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,120
earnings transcript summary from
Qualtrim, where we highlighted 

696
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,360
that the backlog grew to 200 
billion, not including several 

697
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,200
significant deals signed in 
October. 

698
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,600
What could those significant 
deals be? 

699
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Well, it might have been this 
deal that they just announced. 

700
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,880
Here we have another massive 
deal that wasn't represented in 

701
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,960
this previous backlog number. 
I'm so bullish on Amazon and 

702
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,320
Google and Microsoft. 
I think these companies are such

703
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,640
solid bets. 
I'm not selling a single share 

704
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,120
of the hyperscalers that I own 
and I don't think investors 

705
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,400
should. 
Now moving on, we get into the 

706
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,560
fail of the week. 
Here we have Brad Gerstner. 

707
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,000
And Brad Gerstner, somebody that
I've liked for a long period of 

708
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,440
time. 
He's a tech investor. 

709
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,120
He is an investor in open AI, is
a private company. 

710
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,679
So he's very bullish on open AI 
and he continually, and I would 

711
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,159
say I've been a little bit 
critical of this, but Brad 

712
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,679
Gerstner has continually shared 
the, the thought or the story 

713
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,199
that Open AI and Chachi BT is 
the new way that every kid is 

714
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,400
consuming information and 
Google's basically dead. 

715
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,320
Google's just an old stodgy 10 
blue link economy company. 

716
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,560
And that narrative didn't turn 
out to be correct. 

717
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,199
Now, a lot of people shared in 
that thought process as well, 

718
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,520
but Brad Gerstner was invested 
in the company competing with 

719
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,400
Google. 
Now it's, it's known that 

720
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Google's all right. 
They're not just a 10 blue link 

721
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,120
company. 
There's a lot more going on to 

722
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,960
it. 
So I've been a little critical 

723
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,280
of Brad Gerstner because of 
that. 

724
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,040
But overall, I really like them.
That's a minor disagreement. 

725
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,000
And here we have Brad Gerstner, 
who again is a huge promoter, 

726
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,000
advocate, investor in Open AI, 
and he's talking to Sam Altman. 

727
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,400
And listen to the way that Sam 
Altman responds to a simple 

728
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,320
light question. 
So Brad Gerstner is about to 

729
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,040
give a a little question, a 
slight criticism to Open AI just

730
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,560
to ask if they can really 
fulfill on the deals they're 

731
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,640
making a very reasonable, simple
question. 

732
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,200
Listen to how Sam Altman 
responds. 

733
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Hanging over the market is how 
you know, how can the company 

734
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:40,080
with 13 billion in revenues make
1.4 trillion of spend 

735
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,600
commitments. 
You know, and, and, and you've 

736
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,480
heard the criticism saying we're
doing well more revenue than 

737
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520
that. 
Second of all, Brad, if you want

738
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,000
to sell your shares, I'll find 
you a buyer. 

739
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,120
I just enough like, you know, 
people are, I, I think there's a

740
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,400
lot of people who would love to 
buy open air shares. 

741
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,280
I don't, I don't think you want 
including myself, including 

742
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,480
myself who talk with a lot of 
like breathless concern about 

743
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,040
it. 
So here we have Brad Gerstner 

744
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,400
saying, you know, you're, 
there's reportedly like $12 

745
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,800
billion in revenue. 
How do you fulfill on $600 

746
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,040
billion of spend commitments, 
right? 

747
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,120
He's just talking about the gap 
between the revenue Open AI 

748
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,360
earns today and the gaps in the 
the big headline commitments. 

749
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,080
They're making a totally 
reasonable question. 

750
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,160
The way that Sam Altman responds
to it is he's indignant 

751
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,600
immediately saying, Brad, we 
make way more than that. 

752
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,040
And if you want to sell your 
shares, I can find buyers for 

753
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,280
him. 
You want you want to sell your 

754
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,520
shares, Brad, go ahead. 
You can sell your shares. 

755
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,760
This guy is a cheerleader for 
your company, a huge advocate 

756
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,920
all day long on social media. 
He's talking about open AI and 

757
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,920
negatively talking about your 
competitor, Google. 

758
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,680
And here he is with one simple, 
totally reasonable question, 

759
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,000
telling Brad, if you have any, 
any criticisms whatsoever, any 

760
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,760
questions whatsoever for me, 
just get out of the stock. 

761
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,640
I'll, I'll find you a new buyer.
Brad, why question me? 

762
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,360
I'm Sam Altman, why question me?
I'd rather you just get out of 

763
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,640
the stock if you have any 
questions. 

764
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,400
OK, well, and this is just part 
of it. 

765
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,760
We'll continue on with this. 
Our compute stuff or whatever 

766
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,680
that would be thrilled to buy 
shares so I think we we could 

767
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,920
sell you know your shares or 
anybody else's to some of the 

768
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,080
people who are making the most 
noise on Twitter whatever about 

769
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,720
this very. 
Brad never said he wanted to 

770
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:25,600
sell shares. 
What? 

771
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Why is Sam Altman, why is he 
yapping on about how we can find

772
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,000
you a new buyer for your shares,
Brad, when he never said he 

773
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,560
wanted to sell his shares? 
He had a small question that was

774
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,040
a reasonable question. 
Well, I can tell you why I'll 

775
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,960
answer. 
I'll answer why Sam Altman does 

776
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,640
this in just a minute. 
Twitter, whatever about this 

777
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,200
very quickly, we do plan for 
revenue to grow steeply. 

778
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,040
Revenue is growing steeply. 
We are taking a forward bet that

779
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,120
it's going to continue to grow 
and that not only will chat to 

780
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,320
BT keep growing, but we will be 
able to become one of the 

781
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,000
important AI clouds. 
That our consumer device 

782
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,680
business will be a significant 
and important thing. 

783
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,480
That AI that can automate 
science will create huge value. 

784
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,720
So, you know, there are not many
times that I want to be a public

785
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:14,440
company, but one of the rare 
what times it's appealing is 

786
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640
when those people are writing 
these ridiculous open the eyes 

787
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,600
about to go out of business and 
you know, whatever. 

788
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,040
I would love to tell them they 
could just short the stock and I

789
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,520
would love to see them get 
burned on that. 

790
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,920
There we have it. 
So in summary, an investor 

791
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,560
that's been a huge advocate 
complimenting Sam Altman in his 

792
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,520
leadership, putting open the 
eyes one of his prized 

793
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,400
investments that he hasn't 
privately over and over again on

794
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,720
Twitter ask Sam Altman, the 
executive running the company 

795
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,120
that he's the owner of. 
Now, keep in mind, Sam Altman 

796
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,680
doesn't own a lot of shares of 
Open AI. 

797
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,000
That's the way it's structured. 
Brad Gerstner does. 

798
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,800
So Brad Gerstner is like an an 
owner of this asking an 

799
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,520
executive a question that's a 
very realistic, reasonable 

800
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,440
question. 
And Sam Altman responds by 

801
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040
attacking that investor, telling
them we don't need you and if 

802
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,360
you'd like to sell your shares, 
I'll find another buyer. 

803
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,800
This is the the weakest 
response. 

804
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,840
And by the way, this is more 
general than just this here, but

805
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,440
if your immediate response, 
anytime someone lightly 

806
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,040
criticizes a stock that you own,
if your immediate gut reaction 

807
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,680
is to say, well, short it, just 
short the stock. 

808
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,280
Like if, if you're so confident,
if, if you don't like it, if 

809
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,400
you're questioning this thing, 
then just short it that is. 

810
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,080
That is the weakest response you
can give. 

811
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,080
And there's a bunch of reasons 
why you may not believe a stock 

812
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,280
is the best investment. 
You may have some criticisms for

813
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,880
it, but it's still not a good 
idea to short it. 

814
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,320
One of them being that companies
can run up far past what their 

815
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,720
fundamentals would warrant. 
Bubbles can last for a long 

816
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,400
period of time. 
The market can remain irrational

817
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,560
much longer than you can remain 
solvent. 

818
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,600
When you short a stock, you 
can't just be correct. 

819
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,480
You have to be correct right 
away. 

820
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,800
You have to time the market. 
You have to time human behavior.

821
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,240
That's nearly an impossible 
task. 

822
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,800
So Sam Altman wanting to to say 
he he wants his company to be 

823
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,520
public just to have the right to
say. 

824
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,200
If anybody has a criticism for 
open AI, just short the stock. 

825
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,440
Just short it. 
And it's ironic that he's not 

826
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,960
even public, so he can't say 
that, but he's complaining that 

827
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,880
that's what he would say if he 
was public. 

828
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,240
But in any case, that would be a
ridiculously weak response if 

829
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,800
you were a public company. 
By asking people to short the 

830
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,240
stock, you are discrediting 
their valid criticisms and their

831
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,240
valid questions. 
You're saying that those 

832
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,240
questions aren't valid. 
I'm not going to answer them. 

833
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,120
If you have any criticisms 
whatsoever, just short the 

834
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,000
stock. 
So I think we need a, we need to

835
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
stop this act. 
And I think it's more than just 

836
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Sam Altman, but especially him 
in this case. 

837
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,680
We need to stop this act. 
If if anybody has a question 

838
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,200
about a stock, immediately 
defensively becoming indignant 

839
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,680
and challenging them to short 
the stock, it is the weakest 

840
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,440
response you can give. 
Anytime somebody does that, 

841
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,520
they're not operating in good 
faith and it's more of a defense

842
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,280
mechanism. 
It's more of a reflection on 

843
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,240
yourself than the person asking 
the questions. 

844
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,960
Sam Altman could have responded 
kindly to one of his favorite 

845
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,760
one of the the best investors in
open AI, one of the most notable

846
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,800
ones in the company. 
He could have explained how it's

847
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,560
a minor misunderstanding about 
the company's financials. 

848
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,280
It happens all the time with 
private companies and they're on

849
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,240
a healthy path to profitability.
But instead he chose to answer 

850
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,640
it rudely, defensively, with 
indignation against one of his 

851
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,800
own advocates, one of his own 
investors, someone that's on his

852
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,240
side, he treated this way, and 
at the same time revealing that 

853
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,640
these articles showing that open
AI has a lot of obligations get 

854
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,080
to him. 
It also is a weak point. 

855
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,760
It's something that he feels a 
real criticism that he doesn't 

856
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,720
like hearing, so he attacks 
anyone that even mentions this 

857
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,520
news. 
This is not the way an executive

858
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,000
of a company should be answering
questions of their own 

859
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,320
shareholders. 
For that reason, this is the 

860
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,440
fail of the week. 
That's all for this episode. 

861
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,160
Hope you enjoyed. 
See you in the next one.

