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Welcome everyone. 
Thanks for joining on today's 

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episode. 
We're going to be talking about,

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of course the current sell off 
that's happening. 

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We have a little bit of a sell 
off. 

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We have the Dow Jones down 1.56%
for today. 

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We have the S&P 500 down 1.7% 
and we have the NASDAQ down 

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2.14%. 
So all three major indexes are 

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heavily in the red today. 
And this is more than just a 

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September sell off. 
There's an actual catalyst, 

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There's an actual reason why the
markets are concerned today and 

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that is of course the Ever grand
company in China, Ever Grand is 

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this massive real estate 
developer and housing developer 

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in China and it can't pay back 
its debts. 

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And we know what that's like. 
We know what that's like in the 

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US when we have a big company 
that has a lot of debt, heavily 

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leveraged, that develops homes 
that can't repay its debt. 

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So this whole situation in China
right now with this massive real

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estate developer called Ever 
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their debts is a little 
reminiscent of the 2008 

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financial crisis. 
What I want to do in today's 

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video is not only do I want to 
look at My Portfolio, I'll show 

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you what My Portfolio is doing 
today, what companies are 

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holding up and which ones are 
selling off. 

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But I also want to look at this 
ever grand situation and just 

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look over what's going on and 
see if it's comparable to what 

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happened in the US and see if 
this really poses A systemic 

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risk and something that we 
should actually be very 

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concerned about. 
So we'll be looking over this 

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situation as well. 
And then also on this episode I 

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want to do a reaction to Ellen 
Powell's oped in the New York 

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Times regarding the Elizabeth 
Holmes trial. 

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She said it is a wake up call 
for sexism in tech and she's 

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saying that part of the reason 
why Elizabeth Holmes is being 

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charged with these crimes and 
other men that have done similar

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things aren't is because of 
sexism. 

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So as someone who has worked in 
tech for most of my adult life 

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as well as someone who has 
studied this case extensively, 

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I'd like to give my reaction to 
Ellen Powell's claim that 

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Elizabeth Holmes is the victim 
of sexism. 

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one in the market. 
Now let's go ahead and jump 

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right into My Portfolio. 
This is what it looks like on 

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the all time view. 
I'm up $56,000. 

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At one point I was up around 
$70,000. 

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So we've definitely had a big 
pullback. 

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A lot of my main companies have 
pulled back as well as the 

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market over the past two weeks 
has been on a big downtrend. 

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Now if we just look at today, if
we zoom in and ignore the all 

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time view and I click on the one
day view, this is what it looks 

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like. 
It's not pretty. 

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I'm down 4000 dollars, 1.31%. 
This isn't the worst. 

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There's a lot of tech portfolios
that are down a lot more today. 

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For instance, the ARC innovation
ETF is down 3.79% today. 

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So there's things that are 
struggling a little bit more, 

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but My Portfolio is down quite a
bit nonetheless. 

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If I look at the actual 
companies that are down a lot, I

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can go into the tech and cloud 
computing category. 

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This one's down more than the 
rest of My Portfolio. 

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The only other category that's 
down as much is the Fintech and 

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banking. 
So if I go to tech and cloud 

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computing, we have Apple down 
2.29%, that's $1000. 

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We have Microsoft down 1.63%. 
That's $300.00 for me. 

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And then we have the I GV, which
is the tech expanded software 

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ETF. 
So lots of red across the board 

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in the tech sector. 
Then we can go to the consumer 

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category. 
We have Disney down 2.33%. 

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That's not surprising. 
What is surprising is when 

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Costco goes down in price, you 
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price at all or Home Depot that 
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These companies typically go in 
One Direction and that's up. 

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Costco continues to go up, Home 
Depot continues to go up and it 

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takes a lot to pry these shares 
out of investors hands. 

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They don't want to sell these 
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Some people are selling out of 
Costco or Home Depot. 

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I think it's typically the 
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out of ETF's that happen to hold
these companies because I rarely

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see individual investors selling
their shares of Costco and Home 

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Depot and I would love for 
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That would be a very fortunate 
event because I've been looking 

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to buy more and more of this 
company, but it rarely goes on 

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sale. 
So I might take any little dip 

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that I get with Costco as an 
opportunity to buy more of this 

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company. 
Now regardless, we look outside 

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of Costco and Home Depot. 
We have Nike down 1%. 

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We have Comcast down 1%, Target 
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Disney is the biggest loser 
today, down 2.3%. 

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We have the real estate category
that doesn't seem to be having a

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sell off. 
Let's take a look at it. 

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The malls are down a little bit.
Sign, the property is down 1.3%,

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but then we have Vici and MGM 
growth properties which is being

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purchased by Vici in the green 
today, which is very interesting

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to see as well as Realty income 
Corp in the green and store 

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capital just teetering in the 
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So overall real estate is doing 
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We can take a look at my income 
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Jeppy's down 1% today, that's a 
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500, so it is becoming less 
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And then we have the Schwab US 
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down 1.2%. 
So these are both down a decent 

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amount but nothing extreme. 
And then we have the Fintech and

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banking category, JP Morgan's 
down 2.86%, that's a lot for one

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day, almost down 3% and then T 
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also a lot for a one day sell 
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In fact, T Rowe Price really got
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Now T Rowe is a smaller holding 
for me, I've held this for a 

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very long time. 
I'm heavily in the green on it 

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overall, so 3.52% doesn't make 
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That's only $76.00. 
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little. 
Going down $750, that's a bit of

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a hit. 
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continually with JP Morgan, I 
said in video after video 

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recently that I don't consider 
JP Morgan to buy. 

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I think it ran up so much and 
was at lofty valuations for the 

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company. 
It's trading higher than it's 

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ever traded before. 
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bought it down in this area in 
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And then I even bought a little 
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one 20s. 
But I wasn't buying it up here. 

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And I continue to think that JP 
Morgan isn't a special deal 

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right now. 
In fact, I think it does have 

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some downside pressure because 
it's ran up so much and it's a 

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bank. 
And anytime people become 

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worried about anything with the 
economy, banks seem to be the 

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first thing to sell off. 
So I haven't added to JP Morgan 

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anytime recently. 
If I was to do anything right 

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now between buy and sell, I 
would be taking some gains with 

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JPMorgan and selling a little 
bit before buying it. 

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Now moving on, we can go to the 
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Abby's down .56% and Johnson and
Johnson is completely flat 

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today. 
So it's really not moving a 

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whole lot because of any of this
news. 

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Now the renewable and energy 
categories actually in the Green

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Dominion energy is up 1.58% and 
next era energy is up .6%. 

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These are both smaller holdings,
but it's interesting to see that

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when there's trouble in the 
world and people are looking for

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safety, they will start to shift
money into these utility 

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companies. 
They consider them a safe haven 

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against trouble. 
And then we have the restaurant 

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and delivery category, which is 
just one company. 

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It's Texas Roadhouse, that's 
down 1% today. 

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I'm still very bullish on Texas 
Roadhouse. 

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I think this is a fantastic 
company, growing revenues 

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quickly, growing EBITDA quickly.
It's buying back shares. 

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It has no debt. 
I just think overall everything 

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with the balance sheet and the 
growth prospects of this company

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is very good. 
So I remain bullish on this one.

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So this is how the portfolio 
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Lots of red. 
It's pretty ugly, but as bad as 

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this is, again, this is nowhere 
near as bad as a lot of tech 

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focus portfolios. 
Those are the ones that are 

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really getting hit today. 
Overall, I'm still in the green 

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by $56,000, but keep in mind we 
could go back in the red if the 

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market decided to go down 
another 15, twenty 30%, all of 

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these gains would quickly vanish
and we'd be back in the red. 

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And that would be when I would 
try to buy as many great 

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opportunities as possible. 
So I'm not in a situation where 

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I'm necessarily concerned. 
If my gains go away and I go 

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back in the red, I want to 
accumulate as much ownership of 

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the best companies as possible 
and when prices go down, that's 

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an opportunity to do that. 
So when I have days like today, 

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it's not really A cause for 
concern. 

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Now, if we go over all the 
various reasons that investors 

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could be selling out of their 
shares today, we have a lot of 

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different things to choose from.
Investors fear a contagion 

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sweeping financial markets from 
the troubled China property 

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market. 
We're going to be talking about 

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that more a little bit later. 
We also have the Fed beginning 

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their two day meeting Tuesday 
and investors are worried that 

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the central banks will signal 
that it's ready to start pulling

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away monetary stimulus amid 
surging inflation and 

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improvement in the job market. 
So investors are concerned that 

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the feds going to stop propping 
up the market. 

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COVID cases, because of the 
delta variant remain at January 

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levels as colder weather 
approaches in North America. 

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And then also September is just 
not a good month for investing. 

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The average return in September 
for the stock market is .4% 

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decline. 
Investors are also concerned 

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about brinksmanship in DC 
Congress returned to Washington 

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from recess, rushing to pass 
funding bills to avoid a 

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government shutdown. 
So we also have some political 

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stuff going on in the background
as well that may concern some 

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investors. 
Now to this big list of things 

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to worry about. 
I think the ones that investors 

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are the most concerned about 
right now is the China ever 

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grand situation. 
It's this large construction 

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development company that took on
an enormous amount of debt and 

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now it's running into a lot of 
problems paying back its debt 

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and now they're believing the 
company is going to go 

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completely bankrupt. 
Now they describe what this 

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company actually is. 
They say in a risky race against

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time that ran for two decades, 
China Ever Grand Group turned 

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billions of dollars in borrowed 
money into the dream of home 

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ownership for millions of 
Chinese citizens. 

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It launched project after 
project in every Chinese 

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provenance, selling apartments 
years before they were completed

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and scratching together enough 
cash to stay just ahead of the 

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massive interest bills. 
That is not a business strategy 

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that I like selling apartments 
years before they were completed

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and then scratching together 
enough cash to stay just ahead 

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of massive interest bills? 
That sounds incredibly risky. 

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This is the opposite of the type
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to own. 
Well, the party has now ended. 

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Years of aggressive borrowing 
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crackdown on debt, leaving the 
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collapse. 
Construction and ever grants 

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projects in many cities has 
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The company has faced A litany 
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suppliers, small investors, home
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into properties the company 
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being built. 
Now this story gets so sad, it's

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almost comical, the efforts 
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repay this massive debt. 
They say cash is so short that 

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this summer the developer said 
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contractors and suppliers with 
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actual money. 
So they have no money to pay 

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these bills and they're saying, 
hey, do you want to take a half 

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finished apartment as payment, 
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apartment. 
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things like the free meals that 
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staffers are no longer a thing. 
They're saying that they're 

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laying off a lot of people and 
the situation is unfolding in a 

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really bad way. 
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the story is just the scale of 
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This company was a massive 
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The amount of debt they had, the
amount of debt that they took 

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out was $109.56 billion and that
doesn't account for the promises

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that they made. 
That was well in excess of $200 

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billion. 
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paid for $200 billion worth of 
construction that they now can't

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deliver. 
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massive problem is the 
inefficiency of ever grants 

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business model. 
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revenue to their growing net 
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Although the revenue went up 
multiples of where it was a few 

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years ago, the net income didn't
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It was mostly flat and it went 
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So this company was taking in a 
lot more money, but they weren't

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profitable. 
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company's collapsing and they 
can't pay their debts, the stock

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is down around 80% from its 
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It used to be worth over $125 
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25 billion. 
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being a big company with a lot 
of debt that might pose systemic

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risk to the Chinese market, 
there's a lot of people making 

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the comparison to the 2008 
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Whether this will shake out 
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Nobody can give you a firm 
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Chinese government will do. 
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is to always look at the balance
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investing in and consider the 
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Every time there's some huge 
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the company, it's almost always 
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Debt is almost always the 
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financial collapse. 
Every time this happens, it has 

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to do with excessive debt. 
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invest in, I heavily prefer that
they have more cash than debt 

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and if they do have debt that 
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Now moving on, I want to jump 
into this oped from Ellen 

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Powell. 
She writes that the Elizabeth 

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Holmes trial is a wake up call 
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Now we're going to look at the 
specific case in the allegations

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that Ellen Powell makes and how 
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Before we jump into this, I just
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you're just making a general 
commentary that sexism exists in

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tech in general, I would agree 
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I think there's still a level of
sexism that exists. 

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But what I want to look at is 
specifically this case if 

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Elizabeth Holmes in particular 
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Now this oped starts out with 
Ellen Powell doing a little 

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background saying that Theron 
else was founded in 2003 and 

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that there's a lot of hyperbole 
and and different talk about the

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grand future. 
And Elizabeth Holmes raised a 

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lot of money, $400 million in 
financing and Theron else was 

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valued at one point in time at 
$9 billion. 

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And then she gets to the main 
issue here, she says. 

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But after it was revealed that 
Theronos was not transparent 

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when it's blood testing 
equipment failed, it became 

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clear that the company would be 
the exception. 

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That proves the rule that tech 
chief executives rarely face the

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full consequences of the harm 
they cause. 

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Yet Miss Holmes is also 
exceptional for the basic fact 

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that she is a woman. 
Time and again we see that the 

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boys club that is the tech 
industry supports and protects 

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its own, even when the costs are
huge and when the doors crack 

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open ever so slightly to let a 
woman in, the same rules don't 

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apply. 
Indeed, as Miss Holmes trial for

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fraud continues in San Jose, CA,
it's clear that two things can 

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be true. 
She should be held accountable 

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for her actions as CEO of 
Theranos, and it can be sexist 

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to hold her accountable for the 
alleged serious wrongdoing and 

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not hold an array of men 
accountable for reports of 

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wrongdoing or bad judgment. 
So Ellen Pal Hare is not arguing

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that Elizabeth Holmes couldn't 
be held accountable. 

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What she's saying is that 
Elizabeth Holmes is being held 

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accountable by other guys that 
have done similar things, are 

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not held accountable. 
And so that's where the sexism 

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comes in, is that Elizabeth 
Holmes is the victim of 

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selective enforcement of these 
laws. 

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And then Ellen Powell highlights
examples of male entrepreneurs 

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that weren't held accountable. 
Questionable, unethical, or even

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dangerous behavior has run 
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world of tech startups. 
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crimes, Weworks, Adam Newman, 
and Uber's Travis Kalanick hyped

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their way into raising over $10 
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claiming they would disrupt 
their stagnant, tired 

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industries. 
And this is where I think Ellen 

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Powell gets it very wrong. 
Comparing Elizabeth Holmes to 

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Adam Newman or Travis Kalanick, 
she's saying that Elizabeth 

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Holmes is being prosecuted 
because she's a woman, and Adam 

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Newman and Travis Kalanick are 
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they're men. 
That's inaccurate. 

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The reason that Elizabeth Holmes
is being prosecuted and Adam 

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Newman and Travis Kalanick 
aren't is because Adam and 

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Travis didn't lie about their 
current technology and their 

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existing business. 
They did hype their way into a 

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$10 billion valuation. 
But hyping your way to a big 

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valuation is not illegal. 
Saying that I'm going to become 

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a trillion dollar company and I 
have all these big ambitious 

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plans and I want to conquer the 
world is not illegal. 

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Even if I raise a lot of money 
to go forward with my ambitious 

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plan, and even if I lose money 
in the pursuit of this 

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ambitious, overly hyped plan. 
What is illegal is lying about 

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my current technology, Lying 
about my current business and 

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the capabilities of my products 
that is illegal. 

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Lying about the present and the 
past is illegal. 

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Hyping the future is not illegal
and Elizabeth Holmes lied about 

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the present and the past. 
Another counterpoint I'd bring 

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up to what Ellen Powell is 
arguing here is the story of 

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Nicola and Trevor Milton. 
This is probably the most 

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comparable company and CEO to 
Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. 

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What Trevor Milton did, like 
Elizabeth Holmes, was lie about 

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the current and previous 
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He didn't only boast a big 
vision about the grand future of

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Nicola, but he lied about their 
current technology, which is 

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illegal. 
That is fraud. 

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So like Elizabeth Holmes, he 
lied about current technology 

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and like Elizabeth Holmes he's 
being charged with fraud, 3 

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counts of it, and he could face 
up to 60 years in prison with 

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these charges. 
So I don't see Trevor Milton 

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hair being treated any 
differently than Elizabeth 

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Holmes. 
Both of them lied about their 

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technology and both of them are 
getting charged with fraud. 

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And even more specific to 
Theranos itself, even at the 

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specific company, Elizabeth 
Holmes is not the only one being

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charged. 
They also charged the former 

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president of Theranos, Sonny 
Balwani, who I'm fairly certain 

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he's a man. 
He identifies as a man and they 

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have raised charges against him 
as well for fraud. 

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So even at this company, 
Elizabeth Holmes is not being 

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singled out. 
They charged a man with similar 

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charges. 
And one more thing that I'd 

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point out in regards to Ellen 
Powell's arguments is one of the

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points that she brings up is 
that Elizabeth Holmes was 

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singled out because of her weird
mannerisms, her voice and her 

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eyes and the way that she 
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That she got all this attention 
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Well, that's not exactly 
accurate either. 

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Smirks, silence and nerves. 
A recap of the drug pricing 

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hearing with Martin Shkreli. 
Martin Shkreli is serving A7 

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year prison sentence for wire 
transfer fraud, but the big 

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focus of this trial was his 
behavior, his smirks and silence

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and the way that he looked, the 
way that he acted. 

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His behavior and mannerisms got 
more media attention than the 

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actual crimes he committed. 
So again, if the overall message

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here is that there's still some 
sexism in the technology 

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industry, a male dominated 
industry, I would agree with 

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that. 
I think there's a lot of 

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progress we can make and ruling 
out different instances of 

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sexism, but trying to say that 
Elizabeth Holmes is being 

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treated Biasly and other CEO's 
aren't being treated the same I 

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think is incorrect. 
I can find plenty of examples of

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male CEO's being charged and 
going to jail for the very same 

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things that Elizabeth Holmes is 
being charged with. 

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So in my opinion, so far, I 
don't see any examples of 

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biasness or extra scrutiny on 
Elizabeth Holmes. 

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Now that is all for today. 
I hope you enjoyed the episode. 

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I'll do another update this week
relatively soon to see how all 

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of this shakes out, because so 
far today we're down one. 69% 

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and the losses keep 
accumulating. 

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So I'll give you some more 
updates later on this week of 

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how this pans out, but that's 
all for now. 

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I'll see you next time.
