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Welcome back, everybody. 
Thanks for joining. 

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In this episode. 
We have a lot to go over. 

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Like always first of all, 
there's over 400 companies 

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reporting earnings this week. 
It's going to shape a lot of the

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market. 
We've had this huge run-up in 

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prices of companies, the markets
gone up a lot and we're going to

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see why there are a lot of this 
is Justified. 

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So these companies are going to 
report earnings if they're not 

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where they should be. 
I think that we're going to see 

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a little bit of a pullback. 
These companies don't have 

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perfect earnings. 
I think we're going to see a bit

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of a pullback because we saw 
what And to Netflix, Netflix had

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an awesome quarter, they gained 
10 million subscribers and they 

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still had a huge pull back 
because their earnings weren't 

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precisely what estimates had the
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So if this is the case, if these
companies they can do well but 

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they just can't do perfect. 
And the stock price will drop 

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five or six percent. 
I think that that's not a good 

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sign for the market but we're 
going to see a lot of these 

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companies are reporting every 
day of the week. 

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We have companies like Microsoft
American Express, Twitter, so on

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and so forth, so we'll see what 
happens outside. 

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App. 
We have my portfolio. 

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Is that a value of a hundred and
five thousand dollars. 

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The gains are 4700. 
They've been struggling lately 

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over the past week. 
I've gained about half of that 

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about 1.9 percent, which is two 
thousand dollars, but, overall, 

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my portfolio has suffered from 
being mostly value. 

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Stocks, mostly dividend growth 
value stocks. 

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And most of the attention has 
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That's where everybody's wanted 
to be is intact because this is 

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a little bit of an eye-opening 
thing mostly. 

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When you look, At growth stocks 
and these high P/E ratio stocks,

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you're thinking risk, you're 
thinking these companies have a 

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high amount of risk, but what we
found with the coronavirus is 

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that the companies that have 
been growing, a lot seem to have

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the least amount of risk as well
companies, like Amazon, and 

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apple, and Microsoft, these ones
with these huge balance sheets. 

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They're doing fine during this 
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They're doing just fine. 
Meanwhile, the companies with 

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the low P/E ratios, the ones 
with high amount of cash flow, 

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low P/E ratio, like real estate.
Nobody wants to own. 

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That that's been trading down 
like crazy. 

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Nobody wants real estate. 
Nobody wants to be touching 

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finances right now. 
They don't want Banks. 

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Those are scary. 
They're highly leveraged, even 

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utilities, which is mostly a 
safe play has not done as great 

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as it usually does. 
People don't want to own 

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Telecom. 
People don't want to own 

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Industrials, people certainly 
don't want yucky energy 

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companies. 
So this is what we're seeing all

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these Dow Jones value stocks 
have not done. 

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Well, this year, the Dow Jones 
is down about 7 percent 

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year-to-date. 
Date while the NASDAQ is up 15 

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percent year-to-date, which is 
mostly tech companies. 

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So what I've been doing with my 
portfolio is I've been trying to

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balance things out a bit. 
I'm trying to expand Tech while 

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finding the best value in Tech. 
The ones that have the best 

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opportunity for the future as 
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The ones that I think are the 
best value within that I've made

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a heavy bet on Apple, not 
everybody agrees with this. 

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In fact, I received an email 
shortly after my last episode 

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saying the In valuation of 
Apple, that was a subject line 

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of it. 
Their argument is that apple is 

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not worth one point seven 
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So we're going to be looking at 
this email. 

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I think it's a good argument. 
He makes you pretty much 

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Compares Apple to every other 
leading company in that industry

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and he tries to compare the 
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So we'll look at this and see if
apples at an insane valuation. 

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But other than Apple, I have 
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I have visa and I included, 
MasterCard. 

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I like these companies Visa 
Mastercard because I think 

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they're mostly tech companies 
and Secondarily finance 

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companies. 
They don't run like Banks. 

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They're not traditional finance 
companies that lend out money. 

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I think they're mostly tech 
companies now visa and 

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MasterCard for my duopoly and I 
think it's a game where they 

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always win. 
I don't see scenarios where 

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Visa, Mastercard, don't win 
whether PayPal and venmo wins or

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Square and cash app. 
Either way, at the end of the 

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day, MasterCard. 
And Visa are going to do really 

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well. 
So this is the growth of my tech

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portion of my portfolio. 
I'm going to continue to grow 

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this out. 
It has a lower. 

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Dividend payment. 
But I'm sacrificing that to have

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a better defensive portfolio. 
I want to have more balance 

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right now. 
If I look over all about 70% of 

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my portfolios and value about 
30% is in growth. 

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And what I want to do is shift 
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that whether the NASDAQ is doing
well or whether the Dow Jones is

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doing well, in either case, my 
portfolio does well because I 

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have the best companies of each 
different index. 

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So, that's the goal. 
That's the direction. 

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I've been going. 
I've been selecting what I think

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are the best companies out there
in these days. 

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Different sectors. 
The best growth companies in the

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best. 
Value companies, for instance, 

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in finance. 
I'm doing a heavy bet on JP 

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Morgan. 
I'm probably going to be selling

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out of some of these companies 
to put more money into JPMorgan 

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because because I listened to 
their earnings report this last 

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week and they were fine. 
They were profitable, they put a

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lot of money aside for future 
losses and case that happens. 

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So even if the economy goes 
south, I think JP Morgan will 

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continue to go through this. 
Okay, they won't destroy Book 

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value. 
They won't have to sell off 

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valuable assets. 
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Bank will come out very strong. 
So I'm going to be putting more 

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money into JP Morgan. 
This is more of a risky bet but 

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I think this company will come 
out strong and eventually be 

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trading back at 130, 140 dollars
a share where it was previous to

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this year. 
So, so that's been the overall 

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direction. 
I've been taking my portfolio. 

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I'm keeping the value. 
I have a lot of money in value 

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right now, but I'm trying to 
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it to make it more balanced. 
So that'll be something I 

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continue to do in the future 
building out these growth 

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Holdings, building out the tech 
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These really E large defensive 
tech companies that have the 

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really big cash on hand, like 
apple that has 200 billion 

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dollars in cash. 
I'm trying to buy more of those 

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companies because I think that 
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They seem to be the defensive 
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They seem to be the ones that 
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So I still have a lot of value. 
If value does return, if the Dow

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Jones does have some kind of 
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see these gains go up. 
So I still have a lot of 

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exposure to Value but now I have
some exposure to growth as well.

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And I think this will be over. 
All a better portfolio. 

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I also point out if you haven't 
noticed, I don't have any more 

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bonds. 
I sold out of bonds completely. 

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I put a lot of that money into 
the tech sector and I did. 

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So for a couple reasons, one of 
them, I'll go to Ray dalio an 

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interview here and he can 
explain part of the reason why I

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don't own bonds anymore. 
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You don't want cash. 
Because and and I don't think 

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you want bonds because you you 
get no interest rate, you get a 

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negative real rates. 
So you get taxed at that - real 

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rate and then so from a holding 
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It's got no return. 
And then the central bank's go 

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to print, plenty more of it and 
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Apply. 
So there's a move to what is a 

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store? 
Hold of wealth, you know, think 

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about it, you know, like all of 
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What is a good store? 
Hold of wealth. 

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And if you look at history 
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almost the reciprocal of the 
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And we see that from financing 
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It's gold. 
Its, it is. 

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What is the thing that is the 
reciprocal of the value of money

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that you have to hold? 
Hold, you know, your wealth in. 

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And so that's what we're seeing.
He's basically saying that the 

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return of Hans is negative 
because of inflation they pay 

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out less than interest than 
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Is likely going to be and He 
suggests putting your money in 

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equities which have better tools
to deal with inflation. 

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And that's exactly what I'm 
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My portfolio is now 100% 
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I don't have any bonds. 
It'll be interesting to see what

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happens. 
This will make it more volatile.

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If you want to hold bonds, that 
will certainly make your 

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portfolio a little bit more 
stable, but I have a longer 

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Runway. 
I have decades that I'm going to

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be investing. 
So I'm okay doing 100% Equity. 

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If we have another big downturn.
If the market drops, another 

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30%, I can make it through it. 
Now. 

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There's an updated Link in the 
description of this video. 

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If U, want to see all the 
Holdings that I've been buying 

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and selling out of, I have every
single holding in that link. 

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Now, moving on to some news. 
We have to talk about Twitter 

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being hacked. 
Here's a clip from CNN Joe 

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Biden. 
Today, assured his supporters. 

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He'll never asked them to send 
him Bitcoin, cryptocurrency for 

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donations, that comes after 
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account. 
And those of many other famous 

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people were compromised by 
hackers. 

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A devastating attack. 
They got to the accounts of 

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former President Obama. 
Bill Gates, Elon Musk other 

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celebrities like Kim Kardashian 
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companies like apple and Uber, 
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Twitter says, by doing what's 
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Now, this is actually crazy, 
Twitter had one of their admin 

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accounts, one of their employees
had access to manipulate and 

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tweet out basically every single
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He got hacked and he got hacked 
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What's called social? 
Engineering, which is a fancy 

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term for saying that he was 
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He was manipulated into giving 
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hackers. 
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They either used some way of 
admin dashboard, to tweet things

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out or they use password resets,
or something like that, the gain

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access to all these high-profile
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West, and Elon musk's. 
And they use that to tweet out a

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Bitcoin scam. 
Here is a screenshot of what 

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they tweeted out. 
It says, this one's from Elon 

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Musk, but a lot of it was the 
same from all these accounts. 

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Grateful doubling all payments 
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You spend $1000. 
I send back, two thousand 

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dollars only doing this for the 
next 30 minutes and then he 

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linked to bitcoin address that 
you could send it to. 

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I have that part blocked out 
just because I don't want to be 

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sharing a scammers Bitcoin 
address, but you might think 

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this raises some red flags. 
When I first saw this, I thought

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this raises some red flags. 
That looks a lot like Elon 

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musk's account was hacked and 
then you actually see the 

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replies and many people sending 
him money. 

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Here's one from Will. 
Saying sent and he has a screen 

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shot of him sending one thousand
dollars worth of bitcoin to that

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address. 
It's crazy. 

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But a lot of people did this. 
They received hundreds of people

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sending it. 
In fact, it was over a hundred 

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and forty thousand dollars worth
of bitcoin sent to this address.

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Here's a screen shot that I 
took. 

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When it was only 135 
transactions. 

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It was Thirty one thousand 
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And then it went on for a while 
178 transactions, 4.5 Bitcoin 

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received which was like 40 or 50
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It went up all the way to 
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dollars. 
That's how many people fell 

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victim to this scan and Twitter 
can consider themselves lucky. 

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They can consider themselves 
lucky that all these hackers 

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wanted to do was make a little 
money. 

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That's all they wanted to do. 
And they weren't financially 

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sophisticated because if they 
wanted, they could have made a 

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lot more money and they could 
have caused a lot more damage. 

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What I wanted to do was go 
through some of these accounts 

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and pretend for a minute that we
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hackers and we want to make a 
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Money and we want to stir up a 
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So let's just go through and 
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These are all completely fake. 
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How do you think people would 
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The first one is from Elon Musk?
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fictional Ilan, didn't tweet 
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This is just something. 
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tweeted out that would have 
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Elon musk's account. 
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I'm stepping down from Tesla 
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What do you think that would 
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price? 
It would have caused it to tank.

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that Elon Musk is stepping down.
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Obama's account. 
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I'm changing my support to 
President Trump. 

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Trump 2020 Maga for Joe Biden's.
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I have tested positive for 
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could cause a lot of problems. 
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thought of, I thought, well, I 
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things in that. 
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think of on I thought is pretty 
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They could have tweeted out on 
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Bezos is account. 
Thank you for your continued 

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support of Amazon. 
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wanted some Bitcoin money and 
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not only to Twitter, open their 
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the FBI is also investigating 
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policy or major events. 
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The stock price really hasn't 
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Twitter released a statement 
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We're disappointed and more than
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We're sorry. 
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Now before moving on to emails, 
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which is Tesla. 
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I talked about in the previous 
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I think the company has had a 
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Run up. 
I think it's priced pretty high.

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I think it's kind of expensive 
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It's worth about 280 billion 
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more than Toyota. 
So it's expensive but it's a 

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great company. 
So you're balancing those two 

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things with each other. 
Now, Tesla has its earnings 

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report. 
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That's an important day. 
If it's in the green, if the 

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company is profitable and it has
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could mean a lot for the 
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The people that are Advocates of
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are going to be very excited. 
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up even more and it could get up
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with how quickly this company 
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I could see that happening. 
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make-or-break with this company.
What I wanted to do was just 

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highlight how consistently wrong
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around Tesla in the previous 
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I shared a clip from someone 
named as W Amador in this is a 

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valuation expert. 
This is what he does is he 

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values companies and in this 
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wouldn't buy Tesla at fifteen 
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I'll play the quick. /. 
I would not buy Tesla at at 1400

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1450 wherever its trading. 
It's like a moving Target, but I

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would not call somebody advice 
test like crazy. 

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He says that he wouldn't buy it 
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share, but he wouldn't say the 
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crazy. 
He just doesn't buy into the 

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narrative at esli. 
He doesn't think the story has a

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really solid chance of playing 
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fifteen hundred dollars a share,
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and look at his thoughts on 
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He is. 
February 13th of 2020. 

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We have Tesla brought up again. 
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thoughts on the valuation of 
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share price was 781 dollars. 
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his thoughts. 
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This is half. 
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Tesla currently trades at that 
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justify the price. 
You need to tell a really, 

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really big story. 
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you need to give it Volkswagen. 
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You need to give it margins like

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apple and you need to have a 
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other manufacturing company has 
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He says that the story is 
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they would need the revenue of 
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Apple that was early this year. 
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When Tesla was seven hundred 
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Now. 
Let's go back, even further. 

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Let's go all the way back to 
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This is May 5th of 2017. 
This is as W, giving. 

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His opinion on the valuation of 
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And whether he would buy the 
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audio. 
There's a value game and I'm 

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going to surprise you while I 
wouldn't buy Tesla at 295 at 

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300. 
There are plausible ways of 

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getting there. 
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over valuation from that 
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it's going to take some work. 
I mean, here's what they have to

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do. 
They have to deliver about a 

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hundred billion dollars in 
revenues in a decade. 

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They've got to be able to do 
that while delivering tech 

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company margins and investing 
like a tech company. 

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Can they pull it off? 
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believe they can. 
I am skeptical, but I think 

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there is a way to get to that 
that valuation. 

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So even back in 2017 as with was
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that Tesla had to have all of 
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in order to justify its value. 
And that's when it was currently

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two hundred ninety, six dollars 
a share. 

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That'd be a complete still right
now with it being fifteen, 

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hundred dollars a share. 
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The reason that I bring this up 
is not to pick on as with 

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there's plenty of people like 
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have been skeptical of Tesla 
over the past couple years. 

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What I want to point out is that
Tesla has consistently proven 

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people wrong. 
This is a stock that people have

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been skeptical of and it's just 
continued to perform really 

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well. 
So, I hope that continues. 

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I don't own the stock, but I 
hope it the best. 

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I hope this Wednesday that they 
blow away their earnings report 

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and the stock goes up to two 
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It would be pretty incredible to
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Okay. 
Let's get into some emails and 

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Joseph at Joseph Carlson 
show.com., That's the email 

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address Joseph. 
At Joseph, Carlson show.com. 

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If you want to email in and ask 
different questions or bring up 

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different subjects or stocks 
will talk about it here. 

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Now. 
The first one is from Jack. 

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He writes in with the subject 
line, the insane valuation of 

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apple. 
He says, in your last episode 

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episode 103 you stated. 
The Apple was worth one point. 

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Seven trillion dollar market cap
because it is not only a 

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hardware company. 
It is a Healthcare Company. 

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It is a finance company. 
It's a movie production company.

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It's a wearables and activewear 
company and it's a phone 

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company. 
That's correct. 

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That's part of my argument for 
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somewhat of a Healthcare Company
because they have the Apple 

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watch. 
They monitor your health, a lot 

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of people justify, buying the 
Apple watch specifically for 

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their health. 
They're going to be doing sleep 

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tracking and different things 
like that, that I think people 

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will really value. 
They also are a finance company 

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because they're going into 
online payments. 

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They have the Apple card, you 
know, there are movie production

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company because they have Apple 
TV, plus their wearables and 

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activewear company because they 
have the are pods and the Apple 

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watch. 
And of course, there are phone 

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company. 
So that was my main argument. 

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I'm saying apples more than just
a phone company. 

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They control a lot of different 
segments. 

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Now it goes on with this email 
and he says the market cap of 

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the top companies in each of 
these industries. 

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So he takes the biggest company 
in each of the industries. 

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I listed and lists off their 
market cap. 

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Intel has a point to four 
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Cap. 
J&J has a .38, JPMorgan has a 

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point two nine. 
Disney has a point to Spotify 

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has a point zero. 05 Lululemon 
has a point zero four and 

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Samsung has a point three and he
says, so if Apple was a 

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conglomerate made up of all the 
leaders in each of these spaces,

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you defined by combined Book 
value. 

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It would be only worth 1 Point 5
3 trillion dollars. 

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He says, what's even more absurd
about this valuation is when you

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compare post tax profits of this
year, 2019 with apples post, tax

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profits of the same year, which 
was 55 billion. 

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The post tax profits of the 
companies was until was 21 

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billion. 
J&J was sixteen billion. 

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JP Morgan was 36 billion. 
Disney was seven billion. 

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Spotify was .15, Lululemon was 
point 64 and he doesn't have any

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data for Samsung. 
He says so let's say you have 

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one point seven trillion dollars
laying around and you wanted to 

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buy either apple or these seven 
separate companies. 

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You would earn fifty five 
billion a year by buying apple 

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and you would earn over a 
billion dollars a year by buying

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the seven companies with Samsung
making no money. 

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It says sorry I couldn't. 
Find the data for Samsung. 

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My question. 
How in the name of God? 

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Satan and Zeus everything. 
That is Holy Unholy and in 

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between. 
Can you justify the valuation of

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Apple at one point seven 
trillion dollars, sincerely in 

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the name of your loyal fan Jack.
Well Jack, this is a good email.

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So I appreciate you writing in 
and I appreciate you being a 

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loyal fan. 
So I'll try to give you a good 

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answer. 
Basically, when I compare Apple 

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to the different companies, you 
listed off like Intel and J&J 

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and JP Morgan. 
I think that those are all great

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companies, but I don't think 
that they have the Team moat 

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that Apple has Apple has this 
enormous moat a lot of people 

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that I know their decision when 
they're buying a new phone is 

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not what new phone. 
Am I going to get? 

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That's not their decision. 
Their decision is what new 

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iPhone am I going to get? 
That's really their question is 

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what new iPhone am I going to 
buy most of the people that I 

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know that own an iPhone have 
literally zero interest in 

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moving over to Android no 
interest at all. 

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Android could come out with 
almost anything and they will 

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stay with the eye. 
IPhone, because the iPhones been

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consistent. 
They already have the ecosystem.

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They have the apps. 
They're familiar with the tools.

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They like the customer support. 
They like everything about it. 

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So they end up staying and 
iPhone can just continue to 

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iterate a little bit of a better
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with a better screen and so on 
and people continue to buy them.

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00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:23,000
So I think that's a big part of 
it. 

459
00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:26,900
Is Apple has this enormous brand
loyalty that keeps people in its

460
00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:30,400
ecosystem. 
Compare that to Intel this Intel

461
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,900
have this enormous. 
Note this enormous fan loyalty 

462
00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:36,200
of their products. 
I don't think so. 

463
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,300
There might be some tech junkies
that really like Intel for some 

464
00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:42,200
reason but I think for the most 
part people, just buy whatever 

465
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,800
processor is the best. 
So I don't think Intel has 

466
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,600
nearly the same type of loyalty 
or moat that Apple does. 

467
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,500
And you could say the same for 
Jay and Jay, Jay Jay is a great 

468
00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:53,900
company. 
I have it in my portfolio, but I

469
00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:58,100
don't see anybody saying I have 
to by J&J health care products 

470
00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:01,500
and nothing else. 
They have some brand loyalty. 

471
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,200
They have some brand awareness, 
but I don't see everybody's 

472
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,100
saying they only need J&J 
products. 

473
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:08,600
They don't get wrapped into an 
ecosystem of J&J. 

474
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,900
The same thing for JPMorgan. 
It's a great bank. 

475
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,100
It's well Diversified. 
As a lot of different parts to 

476
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:16,700
it, that make money is 
definitely not going to be 

477
00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:19,600
making 36 billion dollars over 
the next year. 

478
00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:22,700
That was 2019. 
Just their quarterly earnings 

479
00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:26,200
was cut in half. 
So, the volatility of banks is a

480
00:22:26,208 --> 00:22:29,200
lot more than Apple, but even so
if they did make 36 billion 

481
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,000
dollars, JP Morgan, I still 
don't think has the same type of

482
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,600
Customer Loyalty that Apple has.
There's not as many people. 

483
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,800
I see that say they just love 
JPMorgan and they have to have 

484
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,300
every product they come out 
with. 

485
00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:43,400
I don't see that at all and I 
see that all the time with 

486
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,100
Apple. 
So again, huge differences there

487
00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:48,500
with Disney. 
This is one company where I 

488
00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,400
actually do, see the same level 
of brand loyalty as Apple. 

489
00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:54,100
There are a lot of people that 
have to see everything that 

490
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:56,600
Disney comes out with. 
So I think that is one where 

491
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,600
they have comparable brand 
loyalty, but Disney's operating,

492
00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:01,500
A business right now. 
That's really struggling. 

493
00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:04,000
So, that companies going through
a lot Spotify. 

494
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,900
I think, is a good comparison to
Apple music. 

495
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:10,200
I think Spotify is worth more 
than the Apple music segment of 

496
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,100
their business. 
So that's what I think is a fair

497
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:15,200
comparison Lululemon. 
I don't even think is closed. 

498
00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:18,600
That's an active wear company 
but apples making watches in are

499
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,500
pods, which I don't really see 
comparable to Lululemon. 

500
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:24,400
So to answer your main question,
if I had one point seven 

501
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,100
trillion dollars just laying 
around and I wanted to buy 

502
00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,600
either apple or all these 
individual companies. 

503
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,800
What would I buy? 
That would really be a difficult

504
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,800
question? 
I don't know. 

505
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,100
What I would do in that 
situation. 

506
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:37,100
I might want to own Apple 
though. 

507
00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:39,800
I just think that it has an 
enormous amount more so than 

508
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,800
companies like like JPM or J&J 
or Intel. 

509
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:46,100
I think apple has a better 
moment than those companies. 

510
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,100
It still makes a lot of money. 
55 billion dollars is a lot of 

511
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:52,400
money and it has 200 billion 
dollars in cash. 

512
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,100
It's in Tech, which is a good 
sector to be in right now. 

513
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,400
So I would feel fine owning 
Apple, but I'm glad I don't have

514
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,500
to be in that situation. 
That'd be a tough choice. 

515
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,500
I think diversification is a 
good thing. 

516
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:04,600
I do. 
Hold a lot of these companies. 

517
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:07,700
I hold J&J. 
I hold JP Morgan and I hold 

518
00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:09,100
Disney. 
So I like being able to have my 

519
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:12,500
exposure to all these companies 
and not have all my wealth in 

520
00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:14,800
one place. 
Jeremy says, hi Joseph. 

521
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,800
I really love your show and the 
work that you do. 

522
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,500
I was surprised to hear that you
work in software development. 

523
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:22,900
I recently graduated at 31 with 
my degree in computer, science 

524
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,300
after working as an electrician 
for a few years. 

525
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:29,200
Congratulations on graduating. 
Since firstly, my wife and I 

526
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,100
have Recently started investing 
in M1 and following the same 

527
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:34,000
style of investment strategy 
that you espouse. 

528
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:37,700
We are both in our early 30s and
I find it kind of frustrating to

529
00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:41,100
know that none or very little of
this information that you and 

530
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:44,500
others provide online isn't part
of the standard education. 

531
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:48,400
Curriculum and the public school
system that makes you and me 

532
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,700
both Jeremy. 
He says we routinely talk about 

533
00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:54,200
how much better off our finances
would be right now. 

534
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:57,600
Had there been mandatory classes
in high school specifically 

535
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,100
geared towards personal finance.
We live in a capitalist Society.

536
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:04,600
So to us, it stands to reason 
that the public education system

537
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,800
in that Society should teach the
basics of how to operate 

538
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800
financially within the confines 
of such a society. 

539
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,100
I'd be curious to hear your 
thoughts on this idea. 

540
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,000
Secondly, in your previous 
episode. 

541
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,900
You mentioned. 
That apple is transitioning from

542
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:19,200
being a hardware company to 
being a software company. 

543
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,800
The my eyes, they aren't 
transitioning at all. 

544
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:24,200
Given the fact that they just 
announced that they're moving 

545
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,500
all of their Max to their own 
silicone over the next two 

546
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:30,200
years, which will mean, almost 
all their Hardware is 

547
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,200
specifically designed by them. 
I'm not sure that's a signal 

548
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,700
that they're transitioning to 
software. 

549
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,300
Did you mean that they're 
transitioning? 

550
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:39,400
Their largest source of income 
towards software? 

551
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:41,800
Can you explain? 
And clarify this point? 

552
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:45,800
Well Jeremy as far as your first
point goes, I agree 100%, It is 

553
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,600
frustrating. 
If you look back and you didn't 

554
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,200
have the proper knowledge and 
you make huge mistakes because 

555
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,900
of that. 
And you talk about the public 

556
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:54,200
school system, not teaching 
enough about Finance. 

557
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:58,800
Think about people as well, many
times the cases is that kids 

558
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,200
that are 18 years old. 
Old, they go to college, they 

559
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,100
take out the biggest loans, they
can because they have no concept

560
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,600
of high interest loans. 
They have no concept of 

561
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,900
compounding interest. 
So they take out these 

562
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,900
high-interest loans from banks 
that give them the money. 

563
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,700
They don't do any verification, 
what they're actually studying 

564
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,100
is going to make any money. 
So in many cases, these students

565
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,400
have a huge amount of debt that 
they can't bankrupt out of them.

566
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,900
And then they go to school and 
they get a job, that makes an 

567
00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:27,400
okay wage, not really enough to 
pay back their loan. 

568
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,700
They had no concept of how 
Called it was going to be to pay

569
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:32,600
back. 
They have no concept of 

570
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,300
compounding interest. 
None of this was taught. 

571
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:38,100
So I feel like we're setting up 
a lot of people for failure. 

572
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:40,800
Letting them go into college 
taking out, huge amounts of 

573
00:26:40,808 --> 00:26:43,100
debt, that they're going to be 
strapped with for the next 10 

574
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,700
years. 
So there's a lot of things I 

575
00:26:44,708 --> 00:26:46,800
would change. 
I would teach a lot more Finance

576
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,900
in high school to prepare people
for college to say. 

577
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:53,100
Hey, as you're going to college,
take out, a modest amount of 

578
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:56,200
debt only take out a lot of debt
if you're going into extremely 

579
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,400
high paying Fields. 
So yeah, there's a lot of things

580
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,400
out. 
Change with that. 

581
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,700
Now, as far as your second 
question, you say that you don't

582
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,400
think that apple is 
transitioning to software and 

583
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,100
services because they decided to
make their own silicone. 

584
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,900
I don't think that that's a big 
deal. 

585
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:14,700
I think apples doing what they 
have done previously, which is 

586
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,200
they're going to design this and
they're going to push the market

587
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,800
to use it. 
The same type of thing. 

588
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,400
When they decided they're not 
going to use Adobe Flash. 

589
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:23,400
They just said they're not going
to do that. 

590
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,400
And the rest of the market 
adapted around them. 

591
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,400
This is the power of Apple. 
They can decide to do something 

592
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,800
and the rest of the market. 
We'll work around it. 

593
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,700
They will migrate over to 
whatever Apple decides to do. 

594
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:35,400
So that's what they've done 
before. 

595
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,700
I think they're doing the same 
thing. 

596
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:38,400
Now. 
I actually think this is a good 

597
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,700
thing for Apple. 
They don't have to rely on until

598
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:42,900
they can do all of this in 
house. 

599
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:46,100
They don't have to rely on Intel
for deadlines or anything or for

600
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:48,100
Innovation. 
They can do all of it 

601
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:50,200
themselves. 
So I think this will make it a 

602
00:27:50,208 --> 00:27:51,600
little bit more controlled for 
them. 

603
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,600
They're really good at designing
Hardware. 

604
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,300
So I don't think it will be any 
different for this and as far as

605
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,300
the growth of their software and
services, This is what I'm 

606
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:05,300
talking about and 2014, Apple 
had 4.4 billion dollars in 

607
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:08,600
quarterly revenue from their 
services in 2019. 

608
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,900
They had thirteen point three 
five billion. 

609
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,300
So they've been growing this 
overtime at a pretty good Pace. 

610
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,400
They've been growing their 
services at about 13 percent 

611
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,500
year over year. 
So I think it will become a 

612
00:28:18,508 --> 00:28:20,800
bigger and bigger portion of 
their company. 

613
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:22,500
Okay. 
Well, I'm going to go ahead and 

614
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:24,700
end this episode there. 
I appreciate all of you for 

615
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,900
listening for sharing the 
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616
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,500
videos and subscribing. 
All of that good stuff. 

617
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:31,900
Thanks for everybody. 
That does that if you want to 

618
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:34,800
chat between now and the next 
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619
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,800
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So you can check that out. 

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00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,100
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