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Welcome back everyone. 
Today is going to be a 

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continuation of last episode 
where we reviewed the portfolios

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of super investors. 
Only this time I think we even 

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have a better slate. 
I honestly believe that this is 

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a better group of super 
investors. 

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First of all, we have the full 
portfolio changes of Bill 

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Ackman. 
So last time we had a preview, 

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we got to see that he bought a 
lot of Uber and I went over the 

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investment case of Uber. 
But this time we can see a lot 

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of different trades he's making,
trimming off Chipotle, trimming 

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off Hilton. 
He is doing some interesting 

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things with Nike. 
We're going to be looking at 

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that. 
Then of course, we have Valley 

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Forge Capital with none other 
than Dev Kantasaria. 

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He's personally my favorite. 
Dev, I believe is I think he's 

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the best. 
He's my favorite. 

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I'm a little biased, but I love 
his portfolio. 

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I love his frame of thought. 
We're going to be at what he's 

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doing, the trades that he's 
making. 

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We have the Chuck Auchre 
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They bought a new company that I
find really interesting and I've

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seen this company show up across
a couple other super investors. 

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As I've looked into it. 
I'm really impressed by this 

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one. 
So we're going to be looking 

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through Chuck Auchre's trades. 
Then we have Warren Buffett in 

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the Berkshire portfolio, we have
Mark Massey with Alterock 

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Partners, and we have Michael 
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And we're going to be looking at
all of these giving some context

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and insight. 
Now, we'll first kick things off

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with Bill Ackman. 
We already went over his 

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publicly released at least news 
that he bought Uber and I think 

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that's a great one. 
Like I've said many times, I 

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think 9 out of 10 situations 
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Uber here. 
So I like the Uber buy, but Bill

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Ackman has a lot more going on 
with his portfolio in his 13 F 

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filing. 
We get to see all the other 

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companies that he's trading, 
he's buying and he's selling. 

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Now one thing I'll point out 
that's important is that this 

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website Data Roma only shows the
US listed equities, so you don't

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see the international stocks, 
one of them being Universal 

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Music Group. 
He owns the largest position in 

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his portfolio as UMG. 
Blackman loves the licensing 

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style of business. 
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the landlord of the music 
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They charge licensing fees for 
anybody that uses their music 

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and videos and movies and of 
course on companies like Spotify

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or Apple Music. 
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holding, which again, if it was 
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the top here. 
So you can just imagine that. 

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But in terms of his largest 
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Spotify more than UMGI, think 
it's more compelling and 

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interesting story. 
Spotify is often looked down on 

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by investors because of the low 
margins and the questionable 

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profitability. 
But what they've proven over the

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past year is that they can push 
up margins. 

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They've done so the gross 
margins of the company, the 

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operating margins have gone up 
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For example, if we look at the 
ratios of Spotify, the gross 

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margins of only 30% are super 
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To put that in perspective, 
Booking Holdings has higher 

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operating margins then Spotify 
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So this is very low gross 
margins, but you can see them 

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starting to take up a little bit
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In 2023, it was 25.6%. 
So they're actually increasing 

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their gross margins, they're 
increasing their operating 

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margins like crazy and of course
their profit margins are 

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following. 
So this company is getting a 

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nice return on capital employed.
The numbers are moving in the 

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right direction and the cash 
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If we look at Spotify's 
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flow, you can see the nice story
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Explosive free cash flow growth 
as they're reducing their budget

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on things like podcasts. 
On top of that, one of the most 

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compelling parts of Spotify is 
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using this application. 
When we look at the monthly 

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active users, it's climbed up 
from 300 million, in fact below 

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300 million in only 2020. 
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there are 675,000,000 monthly 
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This is incredible worldwide 
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And you see this across the 
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them growing like crazy. 
The AD Tair Works is a freemium 

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version. 
People join on, they use the AD 

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Tair for a while, they fall in 
love with the product, then they

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upgrade to the Premium. 
Now again, Bill Ackman likes 

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that licensing business of UMG, 
the company that owns all the 

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rights to all of this music. 
So there's two different stories

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here of the different 
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have, but I'm on the side where 
I think Spotify will be a more 

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compelling investment and I 
believe it's going to have 

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better returns over the next 10 
years than UMG, but we'll have 

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to wait and see. 
Now, in terms of Bill Ackman's 

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other investments, he holds 
Brookfield Corpus's largest 

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position. 
He added a little bit to that 

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one. 
I think it's great. 

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I like Bruce Flatt, I like 
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doing. 
He has one company that I, I 

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can't get behind. 
I don't understand this one. 

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It's Restaurant Brands 
International. 

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This is the owner of Burger 
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Burger King is a middle of the 
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It's right there with like 
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food places. 
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It's certainly no Chick-fil-A. 
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experience like Texas Roadhouse 
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It's just a fast food restaurant
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compelling as Chipotle, so I 
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On top of that, it's also ironic
to me that Bill Ackman owns 

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Restaurant Brands International 
as a huge concentrated position,

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a company that serves burgers 
and fries, while he also 

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criticizes Coca-Cola and Pepsi 
for having addictive and 

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unhealthy products. 
He's continually on the RFK 

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Junior train, saying that these 
companies have used advertising 

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to get people to buy unhealthy 
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But then he owns Restaurant 
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So I don't understand this 
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investment standpoint or from 
even his own philosophical 

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standpoint of owning a company 
that goes contrary to his own 

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personal beliefs. 
I just don't believe this 

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company fits in his portfolio 
and I'm waiting for Bill Ackman 

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to dump it. 
So I think it both makes sense 

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from an investment standpoint 
and from Bill Ackman's own moral

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objective against unhealthy 
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And I think it's only a matter 
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The next one up is Chipotle. 
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quite a bit more healthy than 
Burger King. 

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Either way, Chipotle is a large 
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reducing this one. 
If we look over Chipotle since 

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2018, he's been overall a net 
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He has as in fact 1/4 where he 
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amongst dozens of quarters of 
selling it. 

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So overall he's dumping this 
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It makes sense why he's selling 
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There's simply better 
opportunities when Chipotle 

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stock has pulled forward so much
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It trades at such a high 
valuation now that you have to 

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grow substantially to justify 
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No changes on Howard Hughes 
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We have him adding a little bit 
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explanation. 
You see that he added to Nike 

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last quarter, but that's not an 
accurate reflection of what's 

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going on. 
Bill Ackman gave us an update in

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his most recent investor 
presentation that he actually 

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sold all the equity in his Nike 
position, so he doesn't own any 

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more Nike stock. 
Instead, he converted it to deep

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in the money call options. 
So he took all the equity, sold 

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it all, converted it to this 
position, and then he probably 

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used a lot of that equity to 
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I believe that's the trade he's 
making. 

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But the way that this works is 
because this website doesn't 

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track any type of over the 
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It's going to show next quarter 
that he dumped his Nike 

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position. 
So you're going to see that in 

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the 13 FS next quarter. 
It'll look like Bill Ackman 

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completely sold out of his Nike 
stake. 

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That's not really what happened.
He's simply converting it to 

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call options in his investor 
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He says the new structure allows
us to preserve the upside 

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potential of owning the stock 
outright while unlocking capital

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to make new investments. 
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believe was Uber. 
He also reduced his Hilton 

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position and he added to Seaport
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That's a very small 1% position.
Overall, a very strong 

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concentrated portfolio from Bill
Ackman and I like the trades 

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he's doing now. 
Next up we have my personal 

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favorite, which is Dev Kantasari
with Valley Forge Capital 

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Management. 
He now manages over 4 1/2 

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billion dollars. 
He's grown his portfolio 

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dramatically over the past 15 
years and he's attracted more 

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asset center management as he's 
shown incredible market being 

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performance. 
Now he's accomplished this 

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through a group of highly 
concentrated investments into 

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incredibly powerful monopolistic
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In most cases, you'll see the 
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They're monopolies or they're 
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They're tollbooth companies, 
meaning that they earn money off

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of the transactions or commerce 
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He loves companies that have 
very high margins. 

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They have high returns on 
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They don't require a great deal 
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marketing budget to grow. 
They have natural organic 

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growth. 
They have a ton of operating 

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leverage and scalability. 
All of these characteristics 

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boil down to a very high quality
company of which he makes these 

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super concentrated bets in. 
And some of them have been 

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phenomenal bets over the past 
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being FICO. 
This one has dramatically 

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outperformed the market and it's
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O Fico's by far his largest 
holding still. 

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And even though he's had this 
incredible outperformance with 

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FICO trading at a super high 
valuation, he has the discipline

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to continue holding and that's a
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Most investors would dump this 
position entirely if they had 

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this type of out performance. 
He's doing these slight trims, 

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just taking a little bit of 
gains to funnel into different 

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companies, but he's not slashing
the position down in size. 

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He's not reducing it as a huge 
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He still likes FICO today, and 
in a recent podcast interview, 

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he said that FICO deserved to 
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It's now where it deserves to 
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It got there rather quick, but 
it's a company that wholly 

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deserves this momentum and 
trading. 

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So I suspect he's going to 
continue to keep FICO as a large

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position in his portfolio in the
future. 

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Now I can see that two of the 
companies he's added to are very

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similar here, S&P Global and 
Moody's. 

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Both of these are talked about 
online as being overvalued 

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companies. 
They trade at a high multiple. 

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But here we have Dev Kantasaria 
adding to both of these 

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positions. 
He increased S&P Global by 3%, 

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even though it's already a 20% 
position. 

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So it's a massive outsized 
position and he's adding a bit 

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more to it. 
Then we have Moody's, a 14% 

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position and he added 2% to it. 
This is the complete 

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counterintuitive thing to do. 
Instead of taking gains and 

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using slogans like you can't go 
broke taking gains, Dev 

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Cantosaria further concentrates 
into the winners. 

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He feeds the flowers, he lets 
them grow even more. 

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He adds more to these positions 
when they dip down. 

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So I see a very disciplined 
investor here that continues to 

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follow his investing philosophy.
Now one of the concerns here 

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that I have and this is for a 
holding that I I currently own 

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is right here with ASML. 
This is only a 2% position and 

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he didn't add any to FML, even 
though FML has gone through a 

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sell off. 
If we look at the trade history 

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from Devcantasaria, he added to 
FML doubling his position in Q3 

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of 2024. 
So two quarters ago that was at 

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around $850. 
The quarter ended at 8:33. 

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So he was adding to the position
when it was 850, but here we 

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have ASML today trading at 7:50.
And even in last quarter when he

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could have added to it, it was 
trading at 6:50 and he didn't 

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add any more to the position. 
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that position when it dipped 
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believe that he has his 
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He has some concerns about it. 
I believe that Dev Kantasaria is

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holding ASML as a smaller 
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it's not quite as predictable as
required to become a larger 

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position. 
He puts a massive emphasis on 

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predictability, and even though 
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very wide Moat company. 
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specifically with international 
politics, with relationships 

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with China, that could cause Dev
to become a little bit less 

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certain about the future 
predictability of the company. 

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Now that's just speculation, but
I believe that's the case 

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because otherwise, if he was 
100% certain about the future 

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predictability, he would have 
added more to this position. 

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Instead, he chose to add to S&P 
Global and Moody's, which are 

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not on as big of a dip as ASML. 
So this is one that I wouldn't 

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be surprised. 
I'm not going to be shocked if 

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he ends up selling out of ASML. 
If he becomes convinced that 

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it's less predictable and it 
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he'll dump the company. 
And if that's the case, I plan 

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on doing my own assessment of 
the company and coming to my own

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conclusions. 
Even though I think 

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Devcantasaria is incredibly 
smart, I really like what he 

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does with his portfolio. 
That doesn't mean that they're 

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always right, and sometimes 
super investors get things 

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wrong. 
They get things wrong that I 

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think are even somewhat obvious 
things in certain cases. 

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One example of a disagreement I 
had with Dev Kantasaria was his 

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sell of Amazon. 
I thought he should have doubled

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down on the company, bought more
of it, but he ended up selling 

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out. 
He bought the company back in Q3

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of 2021 when Amazon was trading 
for around 160. 

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That was the reported price at 
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Then he ended up reducing the 
position in 2022 and selling 

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completely out of it in Q1 of 
2023. 

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At the time, Amazon was below 
$100.00. 

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So he bought Amazon at a rather 
full price and then he sold it 

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when it was off 50%. 
The company he bought with this 

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money was Intuit. 
Since then, Intuit is up around 

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50%. 
So Intuit made a little bit of 

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gains, but Amazon is up 150% 
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What I ended up doing during the
same time period, the very same 

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quarter that he dumped his 
position in Amazon, is I bought 

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more of the company. 
I bought it January 3rd of 2023 

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and I bought it again and again 
and again. 

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I bought over $15,000 of the 
stock doing a series of buys. 

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This is at a share price of $85 
per share. 

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Now, I'm not pointing this out 
to say that that I'm better than

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Dev Kantasaria. 
I don't believe that's the case.

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But it's to say that you don't 
have to agree with everything 

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these super investors do. 
In some cases, you can disagree 

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and still be right. 
They make good decisions 

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frequently, but they're not 
always right and they're not 

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infallible. 
So if Dev does end up dumping 

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his ASML position in the future,
I'll be making my own 

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independent analysis on that. 
I won't just be following him 

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with whatever he does now, as 
other trades he did here were 

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interesting. 
He trimmed his into IT position 

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by 10%, so minor trade there and
then he bought Equifax and MSCI.

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These two companies both fit 
well within the Valley Forge 

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Capital portfolio. 
We can start off with Equifax. 

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Most people understand Equifax 
is one of the credit bureaus 

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where they collect your 
information and they sell that 

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credit information for a small 
fee. 

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So it fits within the portfolio 
of Devcantesario where he loves 

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these type of credit companies. 
Think about it, he owns Moody's 

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and S&P Global. 
They're both credit rating 

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agencies. 
He owns FICO, which is a loan 

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origination rating system, and 
then Equifax is now a credit 

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Bureau, so he's investing all 
across the credit system. 

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But with Equifax, there's 
something that most people don't

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realize when first looking at 
this company is that the credit 

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rating portion of the business 
is only around 40% of their 

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total revenue. 
So it's less than half of the 

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company. 
What is that other 5060%? 

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That is the identity business. 
It's called the Workforce 

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Solutions. 
The Workforce Solutions segment 

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offers employment, income, 
criminal history, Social 

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Security number verification 
services. 

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So it's basically know your 
customer information. 

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When a business wants to be sure
of who their customers are or 

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who these people are. 
If they want to verify income, 

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if they want to verify 
employment, if they want to know

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about this person for certain, 
they use this workforce 

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solution. 
So most of Equifax is not a 

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credit rating business, it's 
this workforce solution 

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business. 
But what they're doing here is 

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more of the same in selling data
and analytics. 

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We have a number of different 
transitions going on with the 

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company right now that's 
powering it for the future. 

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The cloud transformation, 
Equifax has completed a 

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significant transformation to 
cloud native environment. 

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They're moving from on Prem to 
cloud. 

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This is something that I've 
highlighted as a bull case for 

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companies like AWS, Google Cloud
and Azure. 

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So you see Equifax doing this 
right now. 

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We have data and analytics 
capabilities. 

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There's strong record growth. 
The company has shown 

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significant record growth, 
adding 20 million active records

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in 2024. 
So the number of people that 

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they're verifying is growing new
strategic partnerships. 

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They've signed 15 new strategic 
partnerships in 2024, including 

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a notable partnership with Work 
Day. 

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And then they're also rolling 
out a bunch of different 

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products. 
So even though this is a small 

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position, you get an idea of why
it fits within his portfolio. 

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It goes right along with the 
other companies he owns. 

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The other one that he recently 
introduced as a new position is 

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the index business, which is 
MSCI. 

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Now, MSCI is very similar to S&P
Global's indices business. 

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S&P Global owns the Dow Jones 
indices, which has indices like 

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the S&P 500, the Dow Jones, it 
has things like SCHD. 

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Those are all from the Dow Jones
indices, but MSCI owns the world

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indices. 
They're mostly outside of the US

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and as the rest of the world 
grows, this company naturally 

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makes more money through their 
licensing agreement. 

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This is another company that in 
terms of the finances, the way 

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that this company set up, it 
fits well within the portfolio. 

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They have very low expenses 
relative to the revenue of this 

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company. 
It has almost no CapEx 

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expenditure. 
There's some sales and marketing

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and R&D, but that's been 
relatively flat as the company 

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continues to grow revenue, which
means they're sizing operating 

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leverage, they're buying back 
shares, reducing the share 

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count. 
The free cash flow consistently 

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grows. 
In fact, it looks crazy 

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consistent when you look at this
free cash flow. 

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Look at this trend over time. 
This is on a trailing 12 month 

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basis, but that's 24% free cash 
flow growth. 

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Year over year, 24% free cash 
flow growth is impressive, but 

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on a per share growth, it's 
growing 26% because remember 

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they're buying back shares, 
increasing their per share 

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growth. 
And in terms of dilution with 

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stock based comp, you can see 
the purple bars there. 

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It's almost nothing. 
It's a tiny fractional 

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percentage, not enough to really
factor in. 

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So this is an undilutive fast 
growing, organically growing 

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company. 
When we look at the revenue, the

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top line revenue grows at around
13%. 

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I like MSCI a lot. 
It's a company that I wouldn't 

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mind owning. 
The only issue is every time I 

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look to buy this company, I just
believe I'd rather own a little 

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bit more of S&P Global. 
So for me, it's one of those 

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difficult positions. 
I could buy into MSCI, but I 

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already feel like I got a good 
deal with S&P Global with a very

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similar business model. 
So overall, the Valley Forge 

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Capital portfolio continues to 
be consistent, methodical. 

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They're executing their strategy
exactly as they lay out. 

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Next up, we have the Chuck 
Auchry portfolio. 

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Chuck Auchry himself is a living
legend. 

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The guy's incredible. 
Unfortunately, he's not running 

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this portfolio anymore. 
So we have we have the new 

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leaders of the portfolio and 
they're trying their best to 

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follow the same methodology and 
thought process. 

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Overall, I think they're doing 
an OK job. 

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I don't like to see them sell 
out as some of their most iconic

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holdings that continue to be in 
a very good position. 

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So I don't like the constant 
trimming of Moody's, a 

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MasterCard. 
I just don't think it's 

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necessary. 
These companies should just 

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continue to compound for a very 
long period of time. 

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But putting that aside, I do 
like and I at least I think it's

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interesting, some of the 
companies are buying, one of 

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them being Costar Group Poland 
Capital bought. 

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This is a new position and we 
also have Chuck Ockery's 

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portfolio adding to this 
position, one of the few 

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companies they've added to well,
what is Costar Group and why are

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these super investors buying it?
Costar Group provides 

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information, analytics and 
online marketplace services to 

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commercial real estate, 
hospitality, residential and 

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other related professional 
industries across the world. 

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They also own a handful of 
websites that are very popular 

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amongst the real estate 
industry. 

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All these different renter 
websites, all these different 

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ones that connect different 
people to agents, they're in 

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that business of owning and 
distributing data about the real

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estate industry. 
They also have a lot of 

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compelling things moving forward
with this company. 

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We note here from Qualtrm that 
Costar holds a robust position 

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in the commercial real estate 
sector with a noteworthy 93% 

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renewal rate in subscriptions. 
93 percent is insanely high. 

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That is the same retention that 
Costco has. 

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That's higher than most 
subscriptions in the world. 

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So this shows that this is 
almost like a business 

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subscription. 
When somebody signs up, they 

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view it as part of their 
industry, something that they 

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need to have. 
When you're only losing 7% of 

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customers per year, that's all 
you have to replace. 

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That is a very, very sticky 
subscription. 

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Diverse revenue streams. 
The company manages a diverse 

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set of product offerings across 
commercial, multi family 

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residential markets and 
including successful platforms 

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like apartments.com, Loopnet, 
which help mitigate risks 

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associated with any single 
segment of their business. 

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So even if real estate's doing 
poorly, they're going to be 

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affected by that, but to a 
lesser extent than the real 

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estate industry in and of 
itself. 

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It's a bit how like S&P Global 
has Commodity Insights where 

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they price out commodities. 
That business in and of itself 

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is not as volatile as the 
commodities themselves. 

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So they're a little bit detached
from the real estate industry 

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themselves. 
They have proven growth. 

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Costar has displayed consistent 
growth, achieving 54 consecutive

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quarters of double digit revenue
growth. 

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This trajectory speaks volumes 
about their ability to adapt, 

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innovate and secure market 
leadership across various 

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segments. 
Now Qualtrum highlights that as 

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one of the the benefits of this 
company and it truly is one of 

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the most incredible things about
this company. 

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Let me bring up a chart here. 
This is the quarterly trailing 

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12 months, which smooths out the
revenue over time. 

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That looks pretty smooth, right?
You don't see too many revenue 

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charts that look like this. 
It almost looks fake, but these 

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numbers are real. 
That is one of the the smoothest

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trajectories ever, but that's on
a trailing 12 month basis. 

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Check out when I move it to 
quarterly, which typically is 

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much more volatile across 
different companies, it's almost

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indistinguishable from 
quarterly. 

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It looks almost just as smooth, 
not quite, but it's still 

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incredible. 
I don't see charts like this 

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hardly ever. 
So it really is incredible what 

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they're able to do. 
They just grow revenue 

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consistently 10% year over year 
almost every single quarter 

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without fail. 
And the reason that they can do 

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that all comes back to this 
incredible metric here, I 

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believe the most important one. 
They're 93% renewal rate. 

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Again, it's hard for me to 
overemphasize how incredible of 

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00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,560
a retention that is. 
If there's a company that has 

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00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,160
figured that out, whether it's 
Netflix or Duolingo or Costco, 

461
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,040
Spotify, if you can retain 93% 
of customers year over year, you

462
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,840
only have to replace 7%, you 
have yourself an incredible 

463
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800
business, hands down. 
That's enough right there for me

464
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,520
to know it's an incredible 
business. 

465
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,600
The company is also widely 
popular. 

466
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,160
So even though you probably 
haven't heard about this company

467
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,920
in and of itself, the services 
they offer are super popular. 

468
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,240
The company's platforms 
including Costar and 

469
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,840
apartments.com, both strong user
engagement metrics with average 

470
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,560
monthly unique visitors reaching
163 million. 

471
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720
These figures are indicative of 
an effective brand awareness 

472
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,880
campaign and successfully 
marketing. 

473
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,440
Overall, Costar is an intriguing
investment. 

474
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,600
I like what I see here. 
When I look at the 

475
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,800
profitability, it's certainly 
gone down over the past year. 

476
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:12,160
And I think the reason that 
investors are now buying into 

477
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,560
the stock is they believe that 
if there's any type of 

478
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,960
resurgence in the real estate 
market, in the home market, that

479
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,680
those numbers Will Rock it back 
up. 

480
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,320
And I think that's what they're 
planning on. 

481
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,120
FICO looks expensive today 
because home originations have 

482
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:26,000
slowed down. 
People aren't buying and selling

483
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,440
as much as they did 10 years 
ago. 

484
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,560
But if that picks back up 
because interest rates go down, 

485
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,040
Fico's going to do really well. 
And the same case can be made 

486
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,480
for Costar. 
It's another company that should

487
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,840
benefit meaningfully if the real
estate market heats back up. 

488
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000
Overall, the Aqua portfolio's 
good. 

489
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,120
I like their new buys, but I 
wish they held on to their most 

490
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,800
powerful, dominant companies 
that they already own. 

491
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,560
Now moving on, we have the king 
himself, the best investor to 

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00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,240
ever live, Warren Buffett. 
We can take a look at what's 

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00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,640
going on with Berkshire 
Hathaway. 

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00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,680
Let's go ahead and take a look 
at the biggest trades here. 

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00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,960
They reduce their position by 2%
in Bank of America. 

496
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,800
This comes at surprise. 
They've been doing this for a 

497
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,040
few quarters. 
I think it's a good move. 

498
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,800
I think that they owned a lot of
these banks. 

499
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,920
I don't think they're the best 
companies in the market. 

500
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,200
So it makes sense that they're 
trimming their positions. 

501
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,080
They bought into Constellation 
Brands, that's the new holding. 

502
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,040
They increase their stake in the
Domino's and Occidental 

503
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,160
Petroleum. 
We have them increasing 

504
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,080
SiriusXM, Verisign and Pool Corp
over the last quarter as well. 

505
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,640
And then there's some cells and 
one of these could sting for 

506
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,080
some investors that went into 
this company, Ulta Beauty, they 

507
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,960
eliminated their position 
entirely. 

508
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:35,120
This is not a lot of trading. 
Warren Buffett has mostly done 

509
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:38,960
nothing over the past year. 
And I think that in and of 

510
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,200
itself is instructive. 
It speaks a little bit to the 

511
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,840
market we're in. 
They do not believe that there's

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00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,960
any dramatic deals in the market
right now. 

513
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,120
So while you see people on 
social media, people across the 

514
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:53,680
Internet buying stocks left and 
right, pushing prices up, 

515
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,280
pushing up PE ratios, now 
comparing stuff not even based 

516
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,800
on PE but on price to sales, 
they are justifying even more 

517
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,840
grossly overvalued companies, 
justifying narratives that are 

518
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,840
even more extreme and 
unpredictable. 

519
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,920
During all this market hysteria 
and speculation, Warren Buffett 

520
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,680
remains completely still. 
And this is what he does. 

521
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,000
He waits until he sees value in 
the market that's so clear. 

522
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,760
There's such clear value that 
he's getting that he describes 

523
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,000
it as a caveman hitting him over
the head with a club. 

524
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,440
You can't mistake it. 
You don't need to try to 

525
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,240
rationalize it with complex 
formulas. 

526
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,880
It's just such great value that 
it's unmistakable. 

527
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:31,600
And that's when he'll start 
buying again. 

528
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,200
But as of right now, you see 
what the Berkshire portfolio is 

529
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,840
and it's not changing that much.
Now moving on, we get to Mark 

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00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,520
Massey of Altarock Partners. 
They have $5 billion into a very

531
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,000
concentrated portfolio of only 
four or five meaningful 

532
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,560
positions. 
Now, I'll be honest here, I do 

533
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,560
not like the trades that they 
made this quarter. 

534
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,200
I think they're 
counterproductive. 

535
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,360
I think that many of them will 
come back to bite them. 

536
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,800
For example, one of the 
companies that they sold the 

537
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,800
most of was FICO, which looking 
at their holdings, is one of 

538
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,720
their strongest companies. 
So they're dumping their 

539
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,360
strongest companies because of 
valuation concerns. 

540
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,680
FICO traded up to a high PE 
ratio. 

541
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760
They sold out of the stock, and 
hopefully they can buy something

542
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,200
that will do better. 
But in most cases, I think 

543
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,640
that's counterproductive if 
you're already in the green by a

544
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,760
large extent on a great company 
and the fundamentals remain 

545
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,560
intact as a very bright future. 
There's multiple tailwinds for 

546
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,520
FICO in the future. 
It'd be one that I would just 

547
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,920
hang onto. 
I would maybe trim some of it 

548
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,960
like Dev Cantisario did, but 
still have it as a meaningful 

549
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,640
position. 
Instead, they sold out of it, 

550
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,480
and they also sold out of a lot 
of other companies, or at least 

551
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800
they reduced their stake. 
They reduced their stake in 

552
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,400
Transdyme and Amazon and 
Microsoft and Moody's and 

553
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,480
MasterCard and Visa. 
It's fine to add to Google here.

554
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,200
I think that's a great one. 
But overall, I think these 

555
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,840
trades are somewhat 
counterproductive. 

556
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:53,520
They'd probably be better off 
just holding their positions. 

557
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,880
Now, finally, we got to see what
Michael Bury has been up to. 

558
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,000
This is one that I always give 
of the disclaimer that I don't 

559
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280
think he's a great investor to 
follow, to buy into his 

560
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,520
positions or sell out of them 
because he does things so 

561
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,440
rapidly. 
He changes his portfolio 

562
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800
overnight. 
For example, in just the last 

563
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,600
quarter, here are the trades he 
made. 

564
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,440
He sold 100% of shift 4. 
So he was in that company as a 

565
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,200
huge concentrated position, 16% 
of his portfolio, it's gone in a

566
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,760
single quarter. 
It's just gone. 

567
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,800
So if you created a thesis 
around this company and you were

568
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,840
invested in it because you saw 
Michael Bury buy it, now all of 

569
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,200
a sudden he's out of the company
and you don't know exactly when 

570
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,040
he sold. 
You just know it was during last

571
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,880
quarter. 
You'll see the same thing. 

572
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,080
He bought into Estee Lauder, 
Pinduoduo, he bought into 

573
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,800
Chinese stock. 
So he's betting heavily on a 

574
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Chinese stock recovery right 
now. 

575
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,840
Alibaba is his largest position.
Baidu is his second largest, JD 

576
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,040
is his third. 
Those are three Chinese 

577
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,080
companies that makes up around 
35 to 40% of his portfolio. 

578
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,440
But then we also have Estee 
Lauder, which has a bunch of 

579
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,160
exposure to China. 
It's heavily reliant on the 

580
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,960
Chinese market recovering. 
So we can know directionally 

581
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,960
what Michael Bury's betting on. 
He's betting on the Chinese 

582
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,840
equities to recover over the 
next year. 

583
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,640
We don't know how long he'll 
stay in this trade, but that's 

584
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,120
how he's positioned right now. 
So there we had a look overall 

585
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,280
at the Super investors. 
And if you enjoyed this series, 

586
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,640
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587
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,000
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