1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,920
Welcome back everyone. 
Today on the Joseph Carlson 

2
00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,120
Show, Paramount has officially 
been denied. 

3
00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,240
And Warner Brothers Discovery. 
Is now saying that Larry Ellison

4
00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,400
and especially his son David 
Ellison, not only were they a 

5
00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,800
little bit dishonest and 
misleading with the way that 

6
00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,360
they presented their deal on 
CNBC. 

7
00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,360
But they were straight up. 
Lying. 

8
00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,880
They're basically just saying 
mistruths, in fact. 

9
00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:24,560
From Warner Brothers Discovery. 
Some of the things that they 

10
00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,000
outline the the board when they 
went over the deal. 

11
00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,640
Is they say that it's. 
Quote illusionary, meaning it's 

12
00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,000
basically fabricated. 
Most of the deal doesn't even 

13
00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,400
exist. 
It's not reliable. 

14
00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,360
There's no way to actually pin 
Paramount down to a deal. 

15
00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,120
O this headline from the Wall 
Street Journal is actually an 

16
00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,880
understatement. 
Warner didn't just reject 

17
00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,040
Paramount's hostile bid, they 
outlined it as a fabricated lie.

18
00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,920
And in this episode, we'll be 
going over that entire letter, 

19
00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,640
the full thing from Warner 
Brothers Discovery, outlining 

20
00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,440
why they believe that 
Paramount's being so dishonest. 

21
00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,680
What they actually believe is. 
Wrong with their proposal and 

22
00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,480
the deal with Netflix and why 
they believe that's actually a 

23
00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,200
much stronger deal we also have 
an interview with the CEO of 

24
00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,280
Netflix explaining this deal why
he. 

25
00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,200
Believes it will go through. 
Regulation and why they're even 

26
00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,320
doing it in the first. 
Place. 

27
00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,280
What do they see? 
In this asset of Warner 

28
00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,840
Discovery and HBO Now, we know 
that Larry Ellison is not happy 

29
00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,080
about this. 
He wants to own this asset. 

30
00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,000
He's trying to get money from 
everyone he can, including the 

31
00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,600
Saudis. 
And although the Saudis have 

32
00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,400
kept in the deal so far, Jared 
Kushner, one of the. 

33
00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,280
Backers of this deal has dropped
out. 

34
00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,520
And we even have Paramount going
out today saying that they're 

35
00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,480
standing by their deal and 
Warner Brothers discoveries 

36
00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,640
being unfair. 
With their criticism, we'll. 

37
00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,120
Be looking at Paramount's reply 
and the big thing that they're 

38
00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,680
leaving out. 
So this is a huge. 

39
00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,280
Developing story, especially for
someone like me that's invested 

40
00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,440
in Netflix that still. 
Believes this is a great. 

41
00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,160
Investment. 
After all, I just. 

42
00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,240
Recently bought $10,000 more of 
the stock and two $5000 

43
00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,840
purchases. 
So I'm invested in this company.

44
00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,720
I'll be going over how I see 
this playing out. 

45
00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,800
And of course, we have a lot of 
other news as well. 

46
00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,920
We have Tom Lee going on to 
CNBC. 

47
00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,160
Tom Lee is bearish. 
For the first time in a long 

48
00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,400
time, we'll be going over why 
he's concerned. 

49
00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,039
About the first. 
Half of 2026 we have Mark 

50
00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:10,639
Mahaney outlining why. 
He still believes that Google. 

51
00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,600
Should be in your portfolio as 
one of the top picks on the 

52
00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,160
subject of Netflix. 
We also have them now entering 

53
00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,440
into the game of podcast, 
bringing on many of the biggest 

54
00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,880
podcasts in the world in video 
format on the Netflix 

55
00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,640
subscription exclusively. 
And then finally, we get to our 

56
00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:29,520
fail of the week. 
In this case, we have director 

57
00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,720
Carl Rynch. 
He was found guilty of swindling

58
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,040
Netflix out of $11 million in 
one of the. 

59
00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,120
Craziest stories that I've ever 
read. 

60
00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,320
This is a director that. 
Took money to make a movie, but 

61
00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,560
instead of making the movie he 
did a lot of other things with 

62
00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,920
that money so we have a ton to 
get to in this episode let's go 

63
00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:47,160
ahead and jump in now as we 
start things off, I think it's 

64
00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,520
important to catch you up on 
this developing story. 

65
00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,720
If you've missed some of the. 
Previous episodes I'll just 

66
00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,600
quickly. 
Go over what's happened so far. 

67
00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,680
So far we've had Warner. 
Brothers discovery with their 

68
00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,480
iconic. 
Assets of HBO The HBO. 

69
00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,120
Max subscription service and 
Warner Studios, which is a maker

70
00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,080
of mini massive films, ones like
Dune or Tenet. 

71
00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,880
It's an incredible asset. 
It's one of the. 

72
00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,560
Biggest legacy assets? 
It's one of the iconic movie 

73
00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,400
makers and they. 
Decided to sell because they're.

74
00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,080
Struggling financially, they 
have enormous amounts of debt 

75
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,480
and. 
David Zaslav believes that 

76
00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,560
there. 
Needs to be some level of 

77
00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,720
consolidation when they put the 
company up for sale. 

78
00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,360
There is numerous bidders 
including Comcast, Paramount and

79
00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,280
Netflix and a few others. 
But the ones that were taken the

80
00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,360
most seriously were Paramount 
and Netflix. 

81
00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,240
They're the ones that were 
offering the best terms and the 

82
00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,920
highest bids. 
Warner Brothers Discovery 

83
00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,720
ultimately decided to go with 
Netflix, believing that their 

84
00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,040
bid was. 
Superior, so they locked. 

85
00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,000
In on that bid, they signed an 
agreement. 

86
00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,400
Now Netflix is in agreement. 
They have a formal contract 

87
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,000
signed to buy the Warner 
Brothers Studios and HBO assets.

88
00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,600
They're not going to buy the 
cable assets that's going to be 

89
00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,040
packaged and sold separately. 
Now, Paramount, of course, is 

90
00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,280
not happy about this. 
They believe that they should 

91
00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,720
own the assets. 
And the son of Larry Ellison, 

92
00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,520
who is David Ellison, is 
especially not happy about this.

93
00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,680
He threw a fit. 
He said that. 

94
00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,920
This is something where they 
didn't take our bid seriously. 

95
00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,640
They didn't, really. 
Treat us fairly. 

96
00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,880
They decided to just go with 
Netflix without even looking at 

97
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,240
what we're offering. 
David Ellison, in fact, felt so 

98
00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,760
strongly. 
That his bid was superior. 

99
00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:19,839
And that paramount should be the
rightful. 

100
00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,399
Owner of Warner Brothers 
Discovery. 

101
00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,720
That he went on to CNBC 
explaining why they're now doing

102
00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,360
a tender offer. 
This is a hostile bid. 

103
00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,360
Paramount's trying to bypass. 
The board of Warner Brothers 

104
00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,440
Discovery. 
And the executive team saying 

105
00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,520
we're not going to go to you, 
we're going to go to the. 

106
00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,480
Biggest shareholders of Warner 
Brothers. 

107
00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,640
Discovery and appeal directly to
them, saying ignore the board, 

108
00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,160
ignore the. 
Executives, take our offer. 

109
00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,680
And here he is making some of 
the. 

110
00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,600
Case of why his offer was 
superior. 

111
00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,320
By every metric you can look at,
we believe that our offer is 

112
00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,880
superior to shareholders. 
Now again, he's on national 

113
00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,760
television making his case 
because so far, Warner Brothers 

114
00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,560
doesn't agree with him. 
They're in contract with 

115
00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,840
Netflix. 
And he continues on detailing 

116
00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:04,760
out why Paramount's is better. 
We made the highest offer for 

117
00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,320
the company, $30 in cash is more
than 23. 

118
00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,040
So you see some of the ways that
he misrepresents. 

119
00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,480
The truth. 
The truth. 

120
00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,360
Is that when you break up the 
math between the stock and the 

121
00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,440
cash and what they're actually 
buying, Netflix's offer is 

122
00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,240
actually just as competitive. 
In fact, it may actually be much

123
00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,080
more than David Ellison's, but 
the way that he frames a deal is

124
00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,920
incredibly misleading. 
And this is. 

125
00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,240
Exactly the type of. 
Problem that Warner Brothers 

126
00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,360
Discovery pointed out in their. 
Press release today if you. 

127
00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,560
Just read the Wall Street 
Journal. 

128
00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,320
You'll miss some of the most 
important things. 

129
00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,480
That the Warner Brothers 
discovery. 

130
00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,560
Team is saying it doesn't 
accurately relay it, so instead 

131
00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,040
we're going to go. 
Straight to the source. 

132
00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,480
This is the exact letter. 
That they're giving to their 

133
00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,280
shareholders the problem with 
Paramount. 

134
00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,040
'S deal is what's. 
Underneath the surface, the 

135
00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,640
stuff you're not seeing, 
Paramount's most recent proposal

136
00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,760
includes $40.65 billion in 
equity commitments for which 

137
00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,000
there is no Ellison family 
commitment of any kind instead. 

138
00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,960
They propose that you rely. 
On an unknown, opaque, revocable

139
00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,160
trust for the certainty of this 
crucial deal funding despite 

140
00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,200
having been told. 
Repeatedly by Warner Brothers. 

141
00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,680
Discovery how important a full 
and unconditional financing 

142
00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,200
commitment from the Ellison 
family was and despite their own

143
00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,560
ample. 
Resources as well as multiple. 

144
00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,920
Assurances by Paramount during 
the strategic review. 

145
00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,800
Process. 
That such a commitment was 

146
00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,240
forthcoming, the Ellison family 
has chosen not to backstop 

147
00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,800
Paramount's offer. 
So basically David Ellison is 

148
00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,400
going on TV saying, look, our 
offers like a sure thing. 

149
00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,560
We have the Ellison family trust
behind it. 

150
00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,640
Like the second most rich person
in the world, Larry Ellison is 

151
00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,160
behind this deal. 
And that's not true when you 

152
00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,040
actually get down to what is 
actually backing this. 

153
00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,320
Offer. 
It's completely revocable. 

154
00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,280
The deal was never backstopped 
by the Ellison family. 

155
00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:50,720
They never put their family's 
assets on the line for this 

156
00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,440
deal. 
They say a revocable. 

157
00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,680
Trust is no. 
Replacement for a secured. 

158
00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,600
Commitment by a controlling 
stakeholder. 

159
00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,960
The assets and liabilities of a 
trust are not publicly disclosed

160
00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:03,560
and are subject to change. 
As the name indicates, revocable

161
00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,360
trust typically have provisions 
allowing for the assets to be 

162
00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,000
moved at any time. 
And the documents provided by. 

163
00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,240
Paramount for this conditional 
commitment contains gaps, 

164
00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,320
loopholes and limitations that 
put you, the shareholder and our

165
00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,400
company at risk. 
They're basically saying that 

166
00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,840
this. 
Trust is opaque. 

167
00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,520
We don't even know what's in it.
And they have the ability to 

168
00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,840
move assets in and out of it 
anytime they want. 

169
00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,120
So when you hear news that the. 
Warner Brothers Discovery. 

170
00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,400
Team has concerns about the 
funding of this deal offered by 

171
00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,160
Paramount. 
They're not saying that. 

172
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,240
They're concerned that the 
Saudis are included in the deal.

173
00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,240
That's not really highlighted 
concern here. 

174
00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,040
What they've pointed out so far 
is the specific contract that 

175
00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,520
the Ellison's family money is 
not backing this. 

176
00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,040
Deal that they're. 
Using every way they can to be 

177
00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,640
able to get out of this deal at 
any point, if anybody. 

178
00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,880
Backs out of it. 
That they have enormous means, 

179
00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,960
The Ellison family and David 
Ellison and Larry Ellison, They 

180
00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,400
could put their entire family 
trust irrevocably behind this 

181
00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,520
deal, and they're not. 
Now they contrast. 

182
00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,600
The Warner Brothers Discovery 
proposal. 

183
00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,160
With the Netflix deal, Warner's 
merger agreement with Netflix is

184
00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,280
a binding agreement with 
enforceable commitments with no 

185
00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,200
need for an equity financing and
robust debt commitments. 

186
00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,600
The Netflix merger is. 
Fully backed by a public. 

187
00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,040
Company with a market cap in 
excess of $400 billion with an 

188
00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,000
investment grade balance sheet. 
The debt financing a Paramount 

189
00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,200
bid relies on unsecured 
revocable trust commitments as 

190
00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,080
well as the creditworthiness of 
a $15 billion market cap. 

191
00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,520
Company with a credit rating at 
or only above junk. 

192
00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,120
The financial condition and 
creditworthiness of Paramount 

193
00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,200
which if this proposed 
transaction were to close. 

194
00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,240
So if they were to close the 
deal with. 

195
00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,280
Paramount they would have high. 
Gross leverage ratio. 

196
00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,760
Of 6.8 * 2026 debt to EBITDA Now
what they're doing here? 

197
00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,520
What Warner Brothers Discovery 
Board. 

198
00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,720
Is doing here is entirely fair. 
This is the exact. 

199
00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120
Way that you look at. 
Leverage you compare the long 

200
00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,320
term debt to next year's. 
EBITDA. 

201
00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,800
As a quick rule of thumb, any 
debt to EBITDA ratio above 3 is 

202
00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,640
concerning. 
It means that the company's in a

203
00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,560
very difficult financial 
situation. 

204
00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,320
Any company that's below. 
A three is probably OK. 

205
00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,200
That means that they can 
probably sustain their debt 

206
00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,880
without too much hassle. 
Now, not only do they have one 

207
00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:21,720
above 3, there's a 6.8 meaning 
based on 2026's estimated 

208
00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,600
EBITDA, if this transaction 
closed, they would have 6.8 

209
00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,560
times the long term debt of that
EBITDA. 

210
00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,240
That would put them in a 
severely disadvantaged state. 

211
00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:33,680
They'd have incredible interest 
obligations on that debt. 

212
00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,560
Now just for comparison, if we 
were to bring up Netflix and do 

213
00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:39,120
analysis on the exact same ratio
that they're using for 

214
00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,320
Paramount, Netflix is trailing 
EBITDA is about $30 billion and 

215
00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,400
their current net debt as of 
today, meaning their cash minus 

216
00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,240
their debt is $5 billion, 
Netflix's debt to EBITDA. 

217
00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,960
Would likely be below 2. 
Meaning that in two years of. 

218
00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,120
EBITDA they could pay off. 
All their outstanding debt. 

219
00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,720
If they so chose to. 
That also means that Netflix 

220
00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,520
will be able to invest in the 
industry. 

221
00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,080
They'll be able to create more 
content. 

222
00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,160
They won't be weighed down by 
enormous interest payments that 

223
00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,320
they can't afford, and that's 
not the situation that Paramount

224
00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,960
would be in if. 
They bought Warner Brothers 

225
00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,360
Discovery. 
On the. 

226
00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,080
Surface of it, this deal is bad.
For the industry if Warner 

227
00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,360
Brothers. 
Discovery gets sold to. 

228
00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,560
Paramount They will be swamped 
with debt, so outlining the 

229
00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:21,200
capital structure and the 
vulnerabilities is an important 

230
00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,840
thing to do. 
They say that such debt levels 

231
00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,280
reflect a risky. 
Capital structure that is 

232
00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,000
vulnerable to even potentially 
small changes in the Paramount 

233
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,800
or Warner Brothers business 
between signing and closing. 

234
00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,400
So if anything was to happen to 
any of the funding sources, this

235
00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,920
is a fragile agreement between 
these two companies and it's 

236
00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,760
very robust and strong between 
them and Netflix, they say. 

237
00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,720
Additionally, Paramount 
contemplates 9. 

238
00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,320
Billion dollars worth of. 
Synergies. 

239
00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,120
Netflix, on the other hand, is 
only contemplating around 3 

240
00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,080
billion and the synergies mean 
that they can fire people, they 

241
00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,840
can get rid of people. 
Because of course there's. 

242
00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,320
Actually more overlap with the 
Paramount and Warner. 

243
00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,680
Brothers Discovery Studios both.
Of them are major. 

244
00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:03,440
Hollywood studios, if they. 
Combine it will be 1 company 

245
00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,720
owning 2 studios, which of 
course they're going to 

246
00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,520
completely scrap so many 
employees they'll fire so many 

247
00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,200
of them to cut costs. 
Netflix won't be doing that 

248
00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,640
because Netflix as of now has no
big box office studio. 

249
00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,760
They have no asset like Warner 
Brothers Discovery, so they have

250
00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,280
far less synergy, meaning 
they're going. 

251
00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,960
To fire far fewer people. 
And in the process, they'll 

252
00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,320
actually grow the company 
because they. 

253
00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,360
Have the capital to do. 
So instead of servicing 

254
00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,480
enormously. 
High levels of leverage. 

255
00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,960
Even outside of how? 
Bad this offer is. 

256
00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,640
For the Warner Brothers. 
Discovery shareholder it's also.

257
00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,480
Terrible for the industry. 
This would be something where 

258
00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,640
they would have to cut so many 
costs. 

259
00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,880
The amount of synergies or 
cutting costs and slashing 

260
00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,760
laying off employees would be 
incredibly intense to make this 

261
00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,920
deal work once they realize that
they're swamped by debt, that 

262
00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,120
they don't have the cash. 
Flows to be able to support this

263
00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,320
deal. 
They are going to cut costs like

264
00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,160
there's no tomorrow and what was
2 Studios, Warner Brothers 

265
00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,600
Discovery and Paramount Pictures
will be 1. 

266
00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:03,200
Warner has highlighted 
Paramount's offer, calling it 

267
00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,000
illusory. 
Now. 

268
00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,200
Illusory means. 
That it's like fabricated it's. 

269
00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,160
Not real. 
It doesn't actually exist. 

270
00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,920
That's the. 
That's what the word means. 

271
00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,480
They're saying their offer just 
isn't real. 

272
00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,080
The offer can be terminated or 
amended by Paramount at any time

273
00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,200
prior to its completion. 
It is not the same thing as a 

274
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,600
binding merger agreement. 
The 1st. 

275
00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,000
Paragraph of the offer states. 
Quote subject to the conditions 

276
00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,240
set forth in this offer to 
purchase as it may be amended or

277
00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,680
supplemented from time to time. 
We reserve the right. 

278
00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:37,480
To amend the offer in any 
respect, including amending. 

279
00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:40,480
The offer price. 
In addition, the offer is not 

280
00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,360
capable of being completed by 
its current expiration date due 

281
00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,120
to the need for, among other 
things. 

282
00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,520
Global regulatory approvals. 
Which Paramount indicates may 

283
00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,440
take 12 to 18 months. 
So that's Warner Brothers 

284
00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,120
overall. 
Take on Paramount's offer they 

285
00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,120
call it dishonest, misleading 
they say that it's not a real 

286
00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,480
offer it can be changed at any 
point they even. 

287
00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,960
Say that it's false to say that 
the. 

288
00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,920
Ellison family is backing this 
offer. 

289
00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,840
They're not. 
And they contrast it with 

290
00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,480
Netflix, which is completely 
binding. 

291
00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,400
And it's backed by a $400 
billion market cap company. 

292
00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,520
Netflix hasn't given itself a. 
A backdoor exit to the. 

293
00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,600
Offer And we also have news that
as this is going on Jared 

294
00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,880
Kushner has apparently dropped 
out of this second proposal so 

295
00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,760
we already have parties looking 
at this and and fleeing this 

296
00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,680
deal I don't want to be part of 
this this is becoming a mess 

297
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,160
they're backing out of it now 
Paramount of course just minutes

298
00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,760
ago they released. 
This write up did they say? 

299
00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,640
That their offer is binding. 
Did they say that it's backed by

300
00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,080
the Ellison family? 
The answer is no. 

301
00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,480
And again, you have Paramount 
not addressing the actual 

302
00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,120
concerns to the Warner Brothers 
Discovery shareholders and the 

303
00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,760
board. 
This. 

304
00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,080
Simply shows that they're just 
going to have to up their offer,

305
00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,440
they're going to have to come 
back with a much better offer 

306
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,120
they're going to have. 
To up at like 5. 

307
00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,400
Dollars per share and they're 
going to have to actually. 

308
00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,360
Address the. 
Equity funding concerns making 

309
00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,080
the. 
Offer irrevocable. 

310
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,880
Making it a binding agreement 
exactly like Netflix has. 

311
00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,440
So not only does the. 
Offer have to be higher. 

312
00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,080
But it has to be binding. 
In that case, they have. 

313
00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,920
A shot. 
They really come back to the 

314
00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,880
table and they up the. 
Offer by 4 or $5. 

315
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,640
They make it a binding 
agreement. 

316
00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,840
They really. 
Do back it with the. 

317
00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,560
Ellison family wealth, not some.
Opaque, revocable trust. 

318
00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,080
That you can move money in and 
out of any time but they're. 

319
00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,040
Actually, their actual wealth. 
Then that would be something 

320
00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,960
that the Warner Brothers 
Discovery team would listen to. 

321
00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,280
But so. 
Far, Netflix has shown a bigger 

322
00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,120
willingness to be way more 
straightforward, way more 

323
00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,000
truthful. 
You have an offer that's better 

324
00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,120
on paper, not only is it better 
on. 

325
00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,880
Paper, but it's also better. 
For the industry as a whole, 

326
00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,960
again, if Netflix ends up buying
HBO and Paramount, they actually

327
00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,240
have the financial strength to 
manage their. 

328
00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,040
Huge debt load. 
They can do that, Paramount 

329
00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,160
can't a 7 times. 
EBITDA ratio. 

330
00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,440
Is insane. 
I would never invest in a 

331
00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,920
company with that level of debt.
Not even close. 

332
00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,560
I start getting nervous when 
it's passed three times. 

333
00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,520
So it's also just. 
Better for the industry now if 

334
00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,040
Netflix. 
Does get past this whole? 

335
00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,480
Paramount drama If Paramount 
finally throws in the towel and 

336
00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,120
gives up and doesn't continue to
raise the bid, they they might 

337
00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,520
raise the bid. 
So I'm not saying they won't do 

338
00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,800
that, but if they finally do get
past it, it looks like Netflix 

339
00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,600
is going forward with it. 
Netflix has the challenge of now

340
00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,960
appeasing the regulators, 
showing why this is going to be 

341
00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360
good for consumers, why it's 
going to be good for the 

342
00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,960
industry, why it's going to be 
good for competition overall. 

343
00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,040
And that is a very daunting 
challenge, many people. 

344
00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,480
Have highlighted that this. 
Looks like it's an unfair deal. 

345
00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,520
It's unfair to the consumer 
because Netflix will own so much

346
00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,680
and Greg Peters, the CEO of the 
company, tries to frame. 

347
00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,920
How they look through the. 
Lens of competition and tries to

348
00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,280
frame what they're actually 
dealing with. 

349
00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,840
Yeah. 
We believe the regulatory 

350
00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,080
process will ultimately conclude
based on the facts, and we feel 

351
00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,080
those facts really support the 
approval of the deal. 

352
00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,520
We're confident regulators will 
ultimately see this as pro 

353
00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,680
consumer, pro creator, pro 
worker, pro growth, pro 

354
00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,920
innovation and pro competition. 
You, you know, came up with a 

355
00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,600
few examples of how you might 
define the market. 

356
00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,640
We look at, you know, the market
definition in a couple of 

357
00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,320
different ways. 
A key one for our side is just, 

358
00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,320
you know, who's winning TV view 
share. 

359
00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,640
And I think if you look at that,
we're way low in the rankings. 

360
00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,480
We're six behind Google and 
YouTube, behind Disney, behind 

361
00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,640
Comcast, NBC, Fox, Paramount. 
Even then, we put, you know, HBO

362
00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,200
Max and HBO on top of the 
Netflix viewing. 

363
00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,240
That still puts us behind 
YouTube and Disney. 

364
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,720
This is one of those things 
where a lot. 

365
00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,240
Of people like to pipe. 
In and say hey Netflix doesn't 

366
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,160
compete with YouTube because 
YouTube is user generated 

367
00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,880
content and Netflix is 
professional content. 

368
00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,680
So what? 
Why does that mean they don't 

369
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,200
compete? 
You don't think that channels 

370
00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,760
like mine aren't stealing 
viewership from cable 

371
00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,320
television? 
Like you don't think that that 

372
00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,680
channels just like mine all 
across YouTube are a challenge 

373
00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,120
for legacy cable television? 
Where do you think viewer eyes 

374
00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,360
are going? 
Netflix is directly competitive 

375
00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,840
to YouTube. 
They always have been, going 

376
00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,400
back years and years. 
They've always. 

377
00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,800
Highlighted YouTube as a direct.
Competitor. 

378
00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,240
So this new talking point for 
many. 

379
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,400
People where they say YouTube 
really isn't a competitor. 

380
00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,560
Because they have a different 
kind of content. 

381
00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:12,119
I think it is just frankly. 
A a super weak ridiculous. 

382
00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,760
Argument When you sit down to 
watch television on your TV now 

383
00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,119
with smart TV's and Apple TV's 
and Roku's and you know all that

384
00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,800
stuff built in. 
Now you're choosing between 

385
00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:27,200
YouTube, Paramount, HBOESPN app,
you're choosing between all 

386
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,280
these services. 
You have them all displayed 

387
00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,760
right on your TV and you can 
choose any one of them that you 

388
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,320
want. 
And in many cases people are 

389
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,200
choosing YouTube in fact. 
As the father of three. 

390
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,760
If I sit my kids down and I give
them the option to watch 

391
00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,400
Netflix. 
Or watch YouTube. 

392
00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,880
They will pick YouTube. 10 times
out of 10, YouTube will win 

393
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,520
every single time. 
To say that that's not 

394
00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,440
competitive to Netflix is 
frankly ridiculous. 

395
00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,680
Netflix is competing for TV 
watch time, so other people 

396
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,400
competing for TV watch time are 
competitors. 

397
00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,160
YouTube is a competitor to 
Netflix even if they make 

398
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,920
different types of content, and 
that goes the same for all these

399
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,640
type of companies they're all 
competing with. 

400
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,240
With each other for watch. 
Time you can include cable 

401
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,160
television. 
Cable television has been losing

402
00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,360
in the competition, but they're 
a competitor nonetheless. 

403
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,840
Now he goes on to outline a 
different type of market. 

404
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,240
This time, it's not just who's 
competing for watch time, but. 

405
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,200
Who's the buyer? 
Of this type of content, one of 

406
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,080
the arguments that the 
government will make is that you

407
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,200
can't become too big of a buyer.
Meaning, if you're going to make

408
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,480
a movie, you can't only have one
person be the buyer of that. 

409
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,280
Movie otherwise where will 
people go to sell a big. 

410
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,680
Budget movie if Netflix owns the
entire movie business. 

411
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,640
And that's another concern that 
he addresses. 

412
00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,960
We also think, you know, when 
you think about the number of 

413
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,440
buyers that are out there on the
creator side, we've got new 

414
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,360
buyers coming in like Amazon, 
Apple, we've got the fast 

415
00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:49,440
services, you know, like 2B. 
So there's just. 

416
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,120
He accurately highlights that. 
Even on the buying side, Netflix

417
00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:55,880
wouldn't be the only. 
Buyer for high budget prestige. 

418
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,960
Content, you have companies like
Amazon that are pushing heavily 

419
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,760
in that, that have virtually 
unlimited budgets. 

420
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,360
As well as Apple where that is 
specifically. 

421
00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:06,320
Their bread and butter apple. 
TV is specifically for high. 

422
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,920
Quality prestige content, big 
box office movies like the 

423
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,560
Formula One movie that they just
made. 

424
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,040
So right now there's a lot of 
uncertainty, but Netflix is 1 

425
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,520
big step closer to actually 
getting this deal. 

426
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,000
What we're waiting for now is if
Paramount comes. 

427
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,040
Back with a higher offer. 
I do think there's a pretty good

428
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,400
chance they'll do that in any 
case, no matter which way I look

429
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,280
at Netflix. 
I just recently bought another 

430
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,280
$10,000 worth of the stock and I
now have it as a $120,000 

431
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,680
position. 
It's a massive position and I 

432
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,360
feel good having it there. 
I'm looking at the long term. 

433
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,200
I'm looking at the next 10 to 20
years. 

434
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,840
I want to own companies that I 
think. 

435
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,000
Will be very, very heavy. 
Companies I see a day when 

436
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,600
Netflix is above a trillion 
dollar market cap, I really do. 

437
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,880
So this is one that I like 
owning. 

438
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,680
Now moving on to some news. 
We had Tom Lee go on to CNBC and

439
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,960
recently make a statement that's
a bit different than what he 

440
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,280
typically does. 
Tom Lee is typically. 

441
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,880
The very bullish guy, always. 
Bullish and he's still bullish, 

442
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,480
so don't get me wrong, he's not 
completely changing directions. 

443
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,280
But he is giving more warnings 
now than he typically does. 

444
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,640
Next year there is 2 puts. 
There's the White House put 

445
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,480
still in play and the Fed put. 
I think it's going to come back.

446
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,960
People sort of forgot like it's 
been dead for three years. 

447
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,440
It's really going to come back 
and forth. 

448
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,040
But it will take maybe the first
half of the year to get through 

449
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,400
that because we don't have a new
Fed in the first half. 

450
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,800
So I think the first half next 
year could be down 10 to 15% and

451
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,920
then a big recovery. 
Now he's predicting a 10 to 15% 

452
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,840
sell off, which would be 
substantial. 

453
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,760
That's almost entering into a 
bear market. 

454
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,120
It's very similar to what we 
had. 

455
00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,800
Early this year, but that was 
because of the the whole tariff.

456
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,840
Fiasco in April. 
He does mention again that. 

457
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,360
He sees that as a. 
Short term thing because he 

458
00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:44,920
believes a new Fed chair will 
come in that Trump appoints 

459
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,600
specifically to lower. 
Interest rates, which of course.

460
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,960
Is interest rates go down, 
assets become inflated assets, 

461
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,840
meaning stocks. 
So money moves more into stocks.

462
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,120
It moves out of cash as cash 
earns a lower yield overall. 

463
00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:00,480
I agree with this thesis. 
Overall, I believe it's going to

464
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,840
be very beneficial to have your 
money in assets that go up as 

465
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,240
interest rates go down. 
And that's why a lot of My 

466
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,280
Portfolio still remains in 
companies like S&P Global or 

467
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,200
Moody's or Equifax ones, where 
as interest rates go down, they 

468
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,080
benefit in a lot of meaningful 
ways. 

469
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,560
Now moving on, we get to an 
interview with Mark Mahaney. 

470
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,480
He talks again, trying to 
convince investors to not give 

471
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,160
up on. 
Google just because the stock. 

472
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,800
Price went up. 
He outlines why he believes this

473
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,840
could again be proven to be 
another winner in 2026. 

474
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,480
I think the real opportunity was
it was so oversold. 

475
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,680
I'm not sure it's overbought. 
I don't think it is. 

476
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,320
I think it kind of hold its 
multiple. 

477
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,640
It's kind of at the high end of 
the mag 7 in terms of the 

478
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,320
multiples, but I think it can 
hold it. 

479
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,600
And now it's a compounder, which
means I think they can grow 20% 

480
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,320
a year. 
So the stock's got that sort of 

481
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,440
upside. 
It's not dramatic, but you know,

482
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,760
it's a name that you want to 
stick with because they've kind 

483
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,560
of proven everything they sort 
of needed to prove, which is 

484
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,640
that they're successful up and 
down the tech stack. 

485
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,000
What else could get much better 
about Google? 

486
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,080
I, I think that there's a chance
for a reacceleration in revenue 

487
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,200
at search at YouTube. 
Waymo's still building out and 

488
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,680
clouds going to be north of 40%.
I think that kind of growth next

489
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,320
year. 
So I just like the fundamental 

490
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,240
setup in it. 
If you're if you're a long term 

491
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,640
investor, you stick with the 
Google. 

492
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,000
Absolutely right. 
Investors should be sticking 

493
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,680
with Google. 
The stock is far more. 

494
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,120
Accurately valued today so. 
It's far more appropriately 

495
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,680
priced, but I don't believe that
you should invest where as. 

496
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,160
Soon as the stock. 
Gets more appropriately priced 

497
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,480
to its fundamentals. 
Appropriately priced with 

498
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,240
strength that you bail on the 
stock. 

499
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,520
If you look throughout. 
History. 

500
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,640
There's time periods where good 
companies look like they're. 

501
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,720
Fair value or they're even 
overvalued. 

502
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,800
Only to continue to grow 
organically very strong in the 

503
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,000
future. 
And as he highlights accurately 

504
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,000
here again, Google remains 
stronger today than it's ever 

505
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,200
been. 
They're they're just nailing it.

506
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,640
Their execution remains 
impeccable. 

507
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,280
They're putting out more 
products, more real things for 

508
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,640
consumers than any other company
that I see. 

509
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,880
There's a storyline of YouTube, 
Waymo, Cloud, Gemini, all the 

510
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,960
Google. 
Search features that are. 

511
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,880
Coming out plus all these 
different things, the Google 

512
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,560
Glasses that they're coming out 
with that are like the meta ones

513
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,240
there's. 
A lot of other little side bets.

514
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,160
There's longshot bets that 
Google. 

515
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,760
Is doing as well that they still
have. 

516
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,760
Working on now, he does 
highlight some of the challenges

517
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,120
that could cause Google to go 
down in the short term and he. 

518
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:15,280
Highlights what those will 
likely. 

519
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,880
Be in 2026, you're going to get 
a new ad model at some point or 

520
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,200
you're just going to get an ad 
model coming out of ChatGPT. 

521
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,320
So there's going to be real 
competition coming after search 

522
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,000
dollars. 
We haven't seen it yet, but it's

523
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,520
coming. 
So you got like a one or two 

524
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,520
pending negative catalyst. 
I don't think it takes the stock

525
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,200
down a lot. 
And if it did, it'd be a great 

526
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,880
opportunity to leg into Google 
stock. 

527
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,280
Remember when ChatGPT was 
planning on doing that? 

528
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,160
But then Gemini 3 came out and 
they said that we have a Code 

529
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,960
Red. 
We have to push back those plans

530
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,680
of integrating ads and instead 
of focus on the quality of our 

531
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,920
product. 
Well, that code Red is not going

532
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,840
to last forever. 
Eventually they're going to say,

533
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,480
OK, we need the ad dollars. 
We're going to make it so ads 

534
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,720
are baked into ChatGPT. 
When that happens, of course, 

535
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,680
that's going to be more direct 
competition with Google. 

536
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240
And you might hear the the 
naysayers, you might hear the 

537
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,880
pessimists come out when that 
point happens. 

538
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,600
He says it if the. 
Stock drops if sentiment gets 

539
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,240
lower, if the multiple 
contracts. 

540
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,080
That of course, is a buying 
opportunity. 

541
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,520
So as far as Mark Mahaney's 
concerned, continue holding 

542
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,760
Google and buy any dips. 
Now, moving on, we get to the 

543
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040
news that Netflix continues 
their streak. 

544
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,160
They're on a roll here, 
acquiring content and moving 

545
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,560
aggressively across across 
different verticals. 

546
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,200
This time they're pushing into 
podcasts. 

547
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,360
Now this is something that we've
heard Netflix kind of toy around

548
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,320
with for a while, but it hasn't 
really been that official. 

549
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,600
Now it's official Netflix. 
Strikes a deal with. 

550
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,440
IHeartMedia on video podcasts. 
So they're bringing exclusively 

551
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,800
some of the biggest video 
podcasts in the world onto the 

552
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,840
Netflix platform. 
They're bringing on a whole new 

553
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,960
type of media, one that is 
historically hosted on companies

554
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,400
like iHeartMedia, Spotify. 
Or YouTube. 

555
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600
But now it's on Netflix. 
We also have Dave Portnoy from 

556
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,400
Barstool doing this announcement
today. 

557
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,240
Emergency press conference time.
If you haven't heard the news, 

558
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,720
I'm proud to announce that 
Barstool is partnered with 

559
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:06,160
Netflix for three of our top 
podcast exclusive video only on 

560
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,560
Netflix starting next year. 
I'm talking you want to watch a 

561
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,680
video of part of my take 
Netflix. 

562
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,400
You want to watch a video of 
spit Chiclets Netflix? 

563
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,560
I actually spit there. 
That's just my brain. 

564
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,000
You want to watch a video of 
Ryan Rossello show Netflix 

565
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,360
Netflix Netflix. 
Dave Portnoy says it best there.

566
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,640
Netflix, Netflix, Netflix. 
That seems like where a lot of 

567
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,280
media is going now. 
So I see this is making Netflix 

568
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,120
even more of a. 
Staple just a bit. 

569
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,000
More of a must have of general 
entertainment, something that 

570
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,520
literally every household that 
wants entertainment at all, 

571
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,880
they're going to have a Netflix 
subscription now, finally as we 

572
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,320
get. 
To the fail of the week we have 

573
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,840
yet. 
Another Netflix story. 

574
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,920
So this has been a Netflix theme
today, but this one's a little 

575
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,080
bit different. 
This is not so centered around 

576
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,680
Netflix, but instead centered 
around one of their. 

577
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,040
Would be. 
Directors. 

578
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,320
His name is Carl Wrench, and he 
was. 

579
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800
The director of 47. 
Ronan, that was the one with 

580
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,520
Keanu Reeves. 
So he has a history in 

581
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,000
Hollywood. 
He's directed some cool movies 

582
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,640
before and it looks like he's 
going to be serving time in jail

583
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,440
and one of my. 
Favorite subjects to go? 

584
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,760
Over is true crime and specific 
true financial crime. 

585
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,920
I like looking at. 
Stories of people like Trevor. 

586
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,720
Milton, Elizabeth Holmes, Bernie
Madoff, different fraudsters and

587
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,680
looking at what they did because
eventually they do get caught 

588
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,520
and. 
You have stories like this. 

589
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,920
This is the story of. 
Director Carl Rench, who This is

590
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,040
an ongoing. 
Story, but so far he. 

591
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,200
Has been officially found guilty
of swindling Netflix out of $11 

592
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,880
million. 
Now this director, he's standing

593
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,320
up in court and he's chalking. 
All this up to a. 

594
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,920
Simple misunderstanding, he's 
saying. 

595
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,040
Look guys, I didn't swindle you 
out of anything. 

596
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,600
We just had some 
miscommunications. 

597
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,160
Money went the wrong direction 
in a few cases, but I didn't do 

598
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280
anything wrong, just a just a 
misunderstanding. 

599
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,240
An $11 million misunderstanding 
happens all the time in business

600
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,040
right now. 
The facts of the case make it 

601
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,680
look a little different than a 
simple misunderstanding. 

602
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,720
First of all, he has. 
Maintained that he completed 

603
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,080
principal photography on the 
first season of a show and 

604
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,720
needed the money. 
For pre. 

605
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,280
Production on a season 2. 
So he's saying that he just 

606
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,960
needed the money for pre 
production. 

607
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,200
Different parts of the. 
Process of producing this 

608
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,520
content, But Netflix says they 
never ordered a second season 

609
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,920
and has said that the first was 
far from complete in closing 

610
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,840
arguments on Wednesday. 
Prosecutors argued that Rynch 

611
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,240
had. 
Deliberately concealed his 

612
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,560
motives for obtaining the money 
before going on a lavish 

613
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240
spending spree and that. 
To believe otherwise would 

614
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,240
require. 
Ignoring all evidence in the 

615
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,520
case at the time, the COVID 
pandemic was beginning to spread

616
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,480
around the globe and according 
to the prosecution, Rynch 

617
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,640
gambled millions on Galette. 
This is a pharmaceutical company

618
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,800
ultimately incurring steep 
losses. 

619
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,120
He also spent heavily on luxury 
cars, antique furniture and high

620
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,880
end mattresses, among other 
extravagances. 

621
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,560
Daniel McGinnis, Rynch's defense
lawyer. 

622
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,920
Argued that the luxury purchases
were a red. 

623
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,160
Herring and had no bearing on 
the case and that his clienteer 

624
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,000
Rynch was in a state of. 
Psychosis. 

625
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,280
So so when you. 
Are borrowing money from 

626
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,680
Netflix? 
When you're using that money to 

627
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,680
produce a film, you can throw it
into stocks and buy expensive 

628
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,000
cars and furniture and then just
claim that you're in a state. 

629
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,320
Of psychosis. 
Claim that you have some some 

630
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,960
mental thing going on and whoops
to Daisy you spent $11 million 

631
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,680
on the wrong stuff. 
That's what the lawyer's. 

632
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,680
Saying, but then Rynch himself 
is actually undercutting. 

633
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,480
What the lawyer's actually. 
Stating instead, Rynch testified

634
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,560
that his purchases were entirely
legitimate and that the Rolls 

635
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,360
Royce, for instance, were 
needed. 

636
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,360
For the show, prosecutors urged 
the jury. 

637
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:31,920
Not to buy it. 
He lied to you. 

638
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,280
He thought he could trick. 
You just like Netflix. 

639
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,760
Now of course, the jury didn't 
buy this BS and they found him 

640
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,640
guilty, so now he's awaiting 
sentencing. 

641
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,720
That will likely happen in April
of next year. 

642
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,960
So the story continues and we'll
see what happens during 

643
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,280
sentencing. 
There's common themes amongst 

644
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,280
every single financial crime and
probably the most common amongst

645
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,400
all of them. 
One that's universally shared 

646
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,720
amongst almost every single 
financial crime is when you 

647
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,560
borrow someone else's money, or 
when you get a loan, or when you

648
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720
get money given to you for some 
reason, some specific stated 

649
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,080
reason you actually. 
Have. 

650
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,000
To do with that money what you 
say we're going to do if you do 

651
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,840
something different that's 
illegal and that's what so many.

652
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,360
Cases like this do they? 
Get money from someone, A bank? 

653
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,520
They get money from a studio, 
They get money from investors no

654
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,680
matter what they're doing, they 
get money from other people on 

655
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080
false premises and they do 
something different with that 

656
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,320
money. 
And it looks like it's going to 

657
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,000
be no different here for Carl 
Wrench. 

658
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,080
Instead of using that $11 
million to make a really cool 

659
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440
show for Netflix and studies 
chosen to. 

660
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,760
Use it selfishly. 
Gamble with it, spend it on 

661
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,840
luxury goods and squander away 
along with his reputation and 

662
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,800
potentially landing himself jail
time. 

663
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,440
So this was an epic failure in 
judgement, something that 

664
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,880
hopefully he won't do again 
after he's released from jail. 

665
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,160
Hopefully he's learned a good 
lesson. 

666
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,880
That's all for this time. 
See in the next one.

