1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 He is pruning you so that your breakthrough doesn't break you. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,360 I do not think that I would have survived this headed taken off. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,160 I I didn't know him like I know him now. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,200 I didn't have 17 years of parenting experience that I have 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,680 now. We're going to save our kids. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,800 We're going to lead by example. Let me tell you what these 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,040 people are purposely doing to you. 8 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:20,120 I call cell phones. I call social media, the 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,080 cigarette of twenty 20s because the people who built them, they 10 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:24,760 know they're addictive. They're built like slot 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,680 machines. That should make you very mad, 12 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,280 not wanting to put your kids on it. 13 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,920 The average adult is on their phone 864 hours a year. 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:40,680 That's 108 eight hour workdays. Have you ever been just walking 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,160 through Walmart or at the park and notice the tremendous amount 16 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:50,280 of children that are carrying their devices in their hands 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,640 staring at screens? If you haven't, I don't know, 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,440 maybe because you're staring at your screen too. 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,040 But I have definitely noticed it and I have noted several times, 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,080 even just walking through a grocery store or a park and 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,480 thinking, wow, these kids are at the park on their phones and 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,720 they're not looking up and they don't even know what's going on 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,120 around them. And I know that it is a plan of 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,920 the enemy to have us bound to anything that will keep our 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,160 attention. And if you have been walking 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,600 around noticing this and you're thinking, wow, this is a big 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,760 problem, what can we do about this? 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Today's conversation is going to help you, especially if your 29 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,120 parent or grandparent who's really been struggling with this 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,520 idea of letting our kids have technology at every corner in it 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,920 at all times. Because technology met does make 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,440 things a lot easier for us, but it also does limit us in a lot 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,040 of ways too. And if you're over 40 years old, 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,320 you remember what it was like before we had cell phones. 35 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,520 And if you're under 40, hey, you know, I'm really sorry because 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,240 it was really great to have just some freedom of thought. 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,000 And so today I brought my friend Shannon on the show because I 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,880 want her to share about her heart for helping parents and 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,840 grandparents, just equipping them to help them and their 40 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,120 children and grandchildren to break free from living behind a 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,199 screen all the time and relying on our technology. 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,880 So Shannon is the founder of Planet Fossa, and she is also 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,640 the creative force behind the children's book series called 44 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:22,680 The Fossa Tales. And that helps parents to really 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,240 teach kids how to have healthy relationships with technology 46 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,880 and rediscover the joy and imagination of play. 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,720 So that when we go to the park, we don't have to see those kids 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,760 just sitting around staring at their phones on the top of the 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,440 playground equipment while the parents are on the the bench 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,640 doing the same thing. Right? 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,600 So Shannon has an incredible story. 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,600 I love where she has come from and that God has breathed on 53 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,240 this dream that she's seen come to fruition. 54 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,360 It's it's really amazing. You're going to get to hear some 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,440 of that today. And you know, what began years 56 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,440 ago as a Wellness brand for kids has now really been revived with 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,120 such a deeper purpose, and that is to partner with parents and 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,440 grandparents who just really have a heart to help this next 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,160 generation to grow strong in their minds, in their bodies, 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,760 and in their spirit. So she has an amazing movement 61 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,040 that she's created to help raise kids who are grounded, joyful, 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,960 and free. And I'm excited, and I hope you 63 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,160 are too, to hear what Shannon has to say to us today on the 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Free to Lead podcast, because that is where we're at. 65 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,800 We need to be free if we're going to be leading. 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,120 And so do our children. So Shannon, thanks so much for 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 taking the time to be see here. This is our second go around by 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,320 the way, first time I didn't hit record. 69 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,040 So you know, here we are. It is so good to be back with 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,760 you, Catherine. I'm glad you didn't hit record 71 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,040 because that it's so good to see your face and it's that was a 72 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,680 beautiful introduction. I thank you so much for that 73 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,400 because that sets the stage for what we're doing here because we 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,800 really as a society need to get back to a play based childhood. 75 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,760 We're we're stuck. We have digital our kids and 76 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,320 ourselves. And I would say not just moving 77 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,680 kids back to play base from tech base, but all of us because you 78 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,400 just made a beautiful point. I have actually shifted a little 79 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,840 bit since last time I talked to you. 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,920 I was really, really focusing on the kids and I still am. 81 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,320 But I have realized I'm not going to get them off of the the 82 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,400 technology if we don't get ourselves off the technology. 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,400 And I, I want to start if anyone's got their, their 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,960 haunches up, I am not tech free. I am not screen free. 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,600 I do not believe in that. That is naive. 86 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,280 That is never going to happen. And if I didn't have technology, 87 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:38,560 I wouldn't know Catherine or any of you guys right now. 88 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,320 So there's beautiful parts to technology and we cannot have 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,560 our kids totally off of it because that would be like 90 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,360 telling them nothing and then sending them to college like 91 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,400 you. You can't do that. 92 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,400 You have to equip them and teach them how to do things, how to 93 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,840 teach them how to adult, which is a whole other thing we can 94 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:57,000 talk about. But you have to teach them to 95 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,120 have a healthy relationship with technology. 96 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,120 And I am excited because the more and more people I talk to, 97 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,120 people are getting this. This is not when I started this 98 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,720 back in 2008, people thought I was a little crazy. 99 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,280 And I have told the Catherine before that was the Holy Spirit 100 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:15,960 because there's no way I knew back then what was going to 101 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,040 happen. And it has come to pass now. 102 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,680 And because of the path he took me on, I am much more equipped 103 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,880 to do this and much more bold and much more serious about it. 104 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,640 When I started this, I had dated a man for a year and 1/2 he was 105 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,240 going through a divorce. The divorce took a long time, 106 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,520 but they've been going through a year and a half. 107 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,440 We dated for a really long time before I met his kids because he 108 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,720 did not want to bring another adult into their life and have 109 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,000 them go through another heartbreak. 110 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,720 So I always joke that that was wonderful and also brilliant of 111 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,640 my husband because then I couldn't live without him. 112 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,200 And then he's like, here's these three children. 113 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,920 It's like, Oh no. But anyway, at that time they 114 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,640 were 48 and 10. And as Catherine pointed out, we 115 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:01,600 are Gen. Xers. 116 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,000 So I walk into this, I was 31 at the time. 117 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,320 And I walked in like, oh man, I'm going to be so cool. 118 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,680 I'm going to tell these kids to go out and play. 119 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,440 They're going to love me. So I walk in and I'm like, hey 120 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,560 guys, you should go out and play. 121 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 It's going to be awesome. And literally 5 minutes later, 122 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,040 they came back inside and they said, Miss Shannon, we have no 123 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,280 idea what to do. And I was floored and really 124 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,800 quite honestly upset and worried about the kids. 125 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,760 Like something actually wrong with the kids. 126 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,080 And to be very, very transparent, I thought there was 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,400 something wrong with their parents. 128 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,560 So who's like going, OK, my boyfriend and his ex-wife are 129 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,480 terrible parents. You know, like that sounds bad, 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,960 but I was like, how is this possible? 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,080 So at the same time, I was a communications consultant. 132 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,920 So I was in corporate America. And the thing I was doing at the 133 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,200 time, one of the things I was doing was Wellness campaigns and 134 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,920 behavior change through communication. 135 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,240 And I was digging it because before I was doing like how to 136 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,320 sign up for your HMO or here's a stock plan and stuff like that. 137 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,880 But the companies had moved into these health incentive programs. 138 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,800 So what that means is an employee could do a 5K, they 139 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,160 could even do a puzzle, something that was good for 140 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,400 them, something that moved them and they'd get points and then 141 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,000 they'd cash in those points for rewards. 142 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,480 And I loved it. There was people quitting 143 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,320 smoking. There was people getting in 144 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,560 shape, better relationships, better sleep. 145 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,320 And I get to interview these people And I just was jazzed. 146 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,480 I got, I was like, this is so awesome. 147 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,000 But I had said to not my now husband, I said why don't we 148 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,240 just grow people up this way? Like why are we going backwards 149 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,480 and now telling them how to do this? 150 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,520 Well, at that beautiful moment is the same time I meet these 151 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,960 three kids who are having this play problem. 152 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,480 And I ended up doing research about it. 153 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,960 And even back in 2008, it was the screens. 154 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,080 They were noticing that because this generation had been so used 155 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,920 to all the different screens, they were literally having a 156 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,720 hard time with their imagination and their play. 157 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,200 And I call it the imagination muscle. 158 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,880 And I believe it had atrophied like any other muscle. 159 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,000 When you don't use it, it atrophies pretty quickly. 160 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,600 So I decided to leave corporate America back then, and my 161 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,200 husband and I started a company called the Planet FASA, and 162 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,760 where that came from. OK, so FASA is Mufasa. 163 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,480 He was my one of my animals at the time. 164 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,680 And I didn't want to be sued by Disney everyone. 165 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,040 So I changed it to Fossa. I was like, let's not do that. 166 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,480 And then I added an S to it and I called it the planet Fossa 167 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,600 because when people enter into the planet Fossa, they're going 168 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,160 into a world of fun activities, stories and service and awards. 169 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,400 And that creates a really healthy, balanced person. 170 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,960 The idea was that we were going to create these characters, and 171 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,840 all the characters are the dogs and cats my husband have adopted 172 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,679 and loved. And so I got to write stories 173 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,640 about them. And at the same time we came up 174 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,880 with a website. We built the website in a 175 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,520 vacuum, put it out there right when apps came out. 176 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,680 And not the best decision. We had raised all this money at 177 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:52,800 the same time my husband's divorce was finally over. 178 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,600 It was a terrible thing. The custody ended up putting all 179 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,520 three kids with with us. And this is the weirdest part of 180 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,200 the whole story, but we lived in Chicago at the time. 181 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Mom ended up moving to California and my husband had to 182 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,360 take a job in Indiana because it's was 2008, 2009. 183 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,360 Everyone remembers the Financial Times. 184 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,400 It was really awful. So he took a job in Indiana. 185 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,080 The reason we stayed in Illinois is because those children wanted 186 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,280 to be with their dad and they wanted to be in those schools 187 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,120 that they were used to. So we promised that we would 188 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,160 keep them there. So I everybody ended up being a 189 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,720 single stepmom. So I was, it was me and my step 190 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,560 kids and I could not read. I couldn't come back and do an 191 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:34,680 app at the time. I couldn't keep that business 192 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:38,400 going and be good to those kids because they needed a full time 193 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,920 parent. They were hurting. 194 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,400 That was a horrible thing. A divorce is very hard on 195 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,560 children. It's hard on everybody. 196 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:45,560 But it doesn't matter how old you are, when your parents get 197 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:48,360 divorced, it hurts really badly because those are your two 198 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,400 people. So I had to put this thing to 199 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,360 bed and I told Catherine before I was devastated you guys, 200 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,160 because I left corporate America, left a big job, but it 201 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,400 was golden handcuffs. I was not happy and I, I started 202 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,920 this thing I really thought was going to change lives and it 203 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,680 quote UN quote failed. And now I'm just a stay at home 204 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:06,760 mom and I thought what a, what a loser. 205 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Oh my gosh. I have to tell you guys now, my 206 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,080 children are so healthy. They're 2726 and 21 and they, I 207 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,960 did plant a fossa with them. So I have, I have a test group. 208 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:23,840 They are beautiful, imaginative, successful adults and I got to 209 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,560 be a mom and I would never, ever, ever change that in the 210 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:29,280 world. There's no such thing as just to 211 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,480 stay at home, Mom, you are there because that's where God puts 212 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,160 you. And there's nothing more 213 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,680 important than to shape people. I'm so grateful for it. 214 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:39,520 I do not look at it as a failure anymore. 215 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 So I just, I always want to tell people if you've tried something 216 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,840 and failed, it's not a failure. There's no failures, there's 217 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,080 only lessons. And in that thing that you are 218 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,560 having such a hard time with, God is shaping you and who He 219 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:53,720 knows you can be and needs you to be to bring His will on earth 220 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,760 as it is in heaven. So I'm back now. 221 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,720 I've talked a lot. You want to ask me anything? 222 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:00,360 Keep going, sister. Great. 223 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:02,680 This is great stuff. I want to know how this started. 224 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:05,240 I mean, this is really good because to be honest with you, 225 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,320 this is the stuff that we need. We need to be encouraged in the 226 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,120 failures. We need to be encouraged in the 227 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,000 things that are the messy things of life that nobody really wants 228 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,040 to talk about. We need to be enriched in that. 229 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,720 Hey, you, you know, you were handed this and you said, OK, 230 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,600 what's most important and you went with that and that God is 231 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,400 still taking that and redeeming what you felt like was a 232 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,160 failure. So that's. 233 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:27,560 No, Great. Absolutely. 234 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Yeah. And, and the thing too with that 235 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,000 is that I really did feel like a failure and I didn't understand 236 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,960 what was going on. But what's so interesting about 237 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,120 it is that the entire time, so we closed it officially, I think 238 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,440 20/12/2013, It doesn't really matter. 239 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,200 But the entire time leading back to now, I could not stop 240 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,560 dreaming about it. It wouldn't leave my spirit. 241 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:50,000 And it was kind of frustrating because I was like, hey, like, I 242 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,520 failed at this. Why is this coming up? 243 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,120 And I always want to tell somebody. 244 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,320 Like, people sometimes ask, like, how did you know to keep 245 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,480 going? How'd you know to pick this back 246 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,680 up again? If it's a God dream, it will not 247 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:01,920 leave your spirit. He will not leave you alone, but 248 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,120 you might in it go. I don't understand what's going 249 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,600 on like why did this happen? He is literally pruning you. 250 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,520 You know he's he's got you on the he's the vine and where the 251 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,120 branches. He is pruning you so that your 252 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,640 breakthrough doesn't break you. I do not think that I would have 253 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,920 survived this headed taken off because I wasn't I I didn't know 254 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,120 him like I know him now. I didn't have 17 years of 255 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,800 parenting experience that I have now. 256 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,000 You know, I had just stepped into being a stepmom. 257 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Now I am, you know, a mom of three kids for 17 years dealing 258 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,680 with technology, knowing how hard it is and knowing that it 259 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:37,240 isn't the parents fault most of the time. 260 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,040 This is society right now. This is we see everybody with 261 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,680 screens and it's become normal. But like, think about Joseph. 262 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Like, Can you imagine he had that dream that he's going to be 263 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,960 the king and all of a sudden he's a slave and then he's in 264 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,680 prison. And we don't be told and we're 265 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,000 not told in the Bible like what he was thinking and any doubts 266 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,760 he had. But I'm sure there were 267 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,360 sometimes that he was like, OK, this is weird. 268 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,040 But God showed us that he kept his faith and he kept his 269 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,800 patience. And then God pruned him and got 270 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,920 him ready. And then he became the second in 271 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Egypt. So you never know what's God got 272 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,760 for you at the end of this stuff. 273 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:17,440 But I would say 2020, when we saw what happened to our kids 274 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,600 with the masks, with taking them out of school, covering up their 275 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,600 faces, putting them on technology, this really came to 276 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,160 me again. My youngest was a junior in high 277 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,280 school. So I've had time again, and I 278 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,240 picked up my fossa tails again and I learned how to write a 279 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,120 children's book better. Before I went from technical 280 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,520 writing to trying to write a children's book. 281 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,640 I had no idea what I was doing. So I went back into them. 282 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,080 I fell back in love with them. I redid them. 283 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,720 And I just started there and I still didn't know what to do 284 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,440 with it. And I just kept hearing God go 285 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,080 points, points. I'm like, all right, God, I 286 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,040 guess we're doing this again. So I prayed about it. 287 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,200 So the books are out there, but what I'm more excited about, I'm 288 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,520 excited about those. And I can tell you like how they 289 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,960 lead to this next thing. But we are on the second draft, 290 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,200 the second make of the app. So the fun, yeah, the thoughts 291 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,880 and Nuggets of fun app is coming out. 292 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,560 So we are building an app for you guys because Catherine and I 293 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:10,360 can sit here and tell you all the younger people than us, like 294 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,120 our childhood was awesome. We, you know, play it all 295 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,680 outside and this, that and the other thing. 296 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,480 We can't expect the millennials and the Gen. 297 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,080 Z ers with kids to understand that because they didn't have 298 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,760 it. And so I feel like it's our 299 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,680 responsibility to give you guys tools to give your kids the 300 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,800 childhood that we bragged about. And so that's what this app is. 301 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,400 And So what it is, it's hundreds of activities at your fingertips 302 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,160 that are offline, but we've tagged them with mind, heart and 303 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,760 body points. So you can kind of see your 304 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,320 child's balance and your child gets can get those points and 305 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,080 then you can give them rewards that you give them anyway. 306 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,400 So if you have a kid who like is obsessed with staying at 5 307 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,760 minutes late every night, they come home, they can earn points 308 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,600 to just give, you're going to give them the thing you're going 309 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,400 to give them anyway. Like call it the night nice and 310 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,680 naughty list for Christmas. You know, you're going to give 311 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,480 the kids they're they're, but you're going to make them stay 312 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,560 on the nice list. So with this boss and Nuggets of 313 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,960 fun of I'll just give an example. 314 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Let's say you get home, you have three kids and what the problem 315 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,040 is now and I, I will go back to this. 316 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,240 What happened with me with my kids is I wanted them to be 317 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,200 outside and they would come and they wouldn't know what to do. 318 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,320 I'd give them an idea, they'd go do it for a little bit, but 319 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,240 their imagination muscle wasn't very built. 320 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,440 And so they come back in and ask me for another thing. 321 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,000 After a bunch of those, I got tired because I'm an adult. 322 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,560 Like we can only come up with so many things and I'm a creative 323 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,320 adult and I could only come up with so many things. 324 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,000 So I would end up going on Google and being overwhelmed by 325 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,840 ideas or Pinterest at the time was really big and I was 326 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,440 overwhelmed with how perfect everything was. 327 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,440 And I was like, yeah, I don't look like that. 328 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,080 I don't craft like that. Have you guys, have you seen the 329 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,480 show? Nailed it. 330 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,840 That is me crafting. I'm. 331 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Like, Oh yeah, I'm not good. My kids are like, oh wow, 332 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,200 they're better. There's turn out better than 333 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,760 mine every single time. I'm like, this is not, this is 334 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,600 not my gift. I can make it fun, but I can 335 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,480 make it look good. So that is my idea. 336 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,120 So coming back to this, I wanted to take a Google, Pinterest, you 337 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,600 know, Instagram, all that stuff. I wanted to put it in one place 338 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,920 where your kids aren't seeing you searching online. 339 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,560 It's at your fingertips, quick, super easy, and we're back 340 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,000 offline. So if you have those three kids, 341 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,080 they come home and the problem is when you get tired like I 342 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,200 did, guess what I did, you guys, I put them back on their screens 343 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,120 and now I've atrophied their imagination muscle again. 344 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,560 So this is, they come home, there's three of them, you need 345 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,800 to cook dinner. You don't want to put them 346 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,720 online, but they are annoying you. 347 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,000 I'm just going to use it. And because they're not going 348 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,440 outside. So you say, hey kids, you know 349 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,160 what, you're not being nice to each other. 350 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,520 So I'm pulling up the fossa Nuggets app and I'm going to 351 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,720 find hard activities that are 1/2 hour long and you're going 352 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,960 to go play that. And then if you get your 200 353 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,840 fossa points, you can stay at 5 minutes later. 354 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,440 So that's the idea. So your incentivizing the kids, 355 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,000 but you're doing it with play. And the idea is the more you, if 356 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,640 you do that every day, you just pull up the thing and you put it 357 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,880 in there. The idea is their imagination 358 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,640 muscles are going to grow and you're going to see your kids 359 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,079 because I saw it with my, you're going to see them start coming 360 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,440 up with their own ideas. In the end, that's the whole 361 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,319 point of this is to get them wanting to play. 362 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,760 And I really do believe in this is where the shifts meant a 363 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,640 little bit in me. I believe when people pull up 364 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,960 those activities, we're just giving you ideas. 365 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,960 Your own creativity is going to come into that. 366 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,440 I think that a lot of adults are missing that real thing, like 367 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,880 with nature with their kids, and when their kids start playing 368 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,680 and they start seeing them having fun and laughing and 369 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,160 using their imagination, it is going to affect the parents and 370 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,360 it's going to be awesome. Well, here's the thing, Shannon, 371 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:40,280 let me just tell you right now where I'm at. 372 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,880 Like I shared a little bit of this with you before, but I have 373 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,640 a 22 year old, 18 year old who are not at home anymore. 374 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,960 And then I have a six year old and I'm older now. 375 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,360 I mean, obviously, and I feel like the older I've gotten, the 376 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:56,640 less I have the capacity for imaginative play. 377 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,680 My 6 year old will come to me, for instance, like this morning 378 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,560 and he said mom, and he always has these great ideas, but he's 379 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,520 the only child at home. OK, Now he's my only child, but 380 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,200 he's the only one at home and he's bored a lot. 381 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,800 So he comes to me and he'll say, mom, I got I want to build a 382 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,160 jail for my dog. So those of you listening on the 383 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,680 podcast, you can't see I have these two fluffy, kind, tiny 384 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,160 little dogs that are hanging out around me. 385 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:19,360 And he wants to pretend to put the dogs in the jail. 386 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:22,440 And he tells me this whole elaborate plan that he has to 387 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,240 pretend to, you know, trap his dogs. 388 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,720 And then they have to figure out a way to get out of this jail, 389 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,320 right at whatever that means in his mind. 390 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Then he looks at me and he goes, so how am I going to do it? 391 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,520 And I'm like, what, Tony, I don't know. 392 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,880 I don't have the mental capacity to imagine your game. 393 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,160 Like this is your game, right? That's what I'm thinking. 394 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,560 But then I don't know. He'll come to me a lot with like 395 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,480 hard things like how can I build a mom? 396 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,320 I want to build a robot. How do I build a robot? 397 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,920 I'm like, I don't even and care, so I don't know like you know 398 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,000 what I mean? Like I literally. 399 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,000 It's hard, so I'm not. I don't want to build a robot, 400 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,120 and I don't even want to spend all the time trying to figure 401 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:57,800 out one second of that. And actually. 402 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,920 I love the story because that is something that I actually have 403 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,760 out on. We just actually released a new 404 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,360 version of our website and I have that under the planet 405 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:10,920 fossil because parents shouldn't have to do it all because you're 406 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,720 already everything else and now you're the chief entertainment 407 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,720 officer. No, that's that really. 408 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,600 I built this app for me, you guys, because I was like, I want 409 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,560 these kids to play. I want that for them. 410 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,320 But I cannot be the imagination station. 411 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,200 Like there has to be help here. And now we've got kids that have 412 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,640 been on screens and they're adults. 413 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,080 Their parents have been on screens. 414 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,800 They need ideas. And I do, I know it because I 415 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,000 saw it. The more they do this, the more 416 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,680 the imagination is going to come because the imagination really, 417 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,920 to your point, should be coming out of the kids. 418 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,320 It should be. It's natural to them if it 419 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,240 hasn't been atrophied. And besides that, we want our 420 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:55,480 kids playing because play leads to so many skills that I don't 421 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,800 think people give it credit for. I know they don't because if 422 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,480 they did, we wouldn't have let it fall to the wayside like 423 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,680 this. But when kids are out playing, 424 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,200 and I know we were talking about your child alone, but I, I mean, 425 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,040 I'm going to tell you, I love that he's bored because you know 426 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,520 where creativity comes from Boredom. 427 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,760 Like we really need to get comfortable with our kids being 428 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,160 bored and mad. Like you want a healthy, strong, 429 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,760 imaginative adult have a mad and bored kid. 430 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,080 And what I mean about mad is let your kid be mad at you that you 431 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,840 won't give them a screen. It's fine because then they'll 432 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,480 be bored and then they'll come up with something to do. 433 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,680 The problem is parents like I don't want you to be mad at me. 434 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,120 Here's the screen. No, they are fine without it. 435 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,720 And you? I don't think you can get to 436 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,360 know your kid unless you see them play some of the weirdest 437 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:37,480 things. They do. 438 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,680 Yeah. They're like tapping on you like 439 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,320 mom, mom, mom, you know, what do I do? 440 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,160 What can I do? Or my son, I'm bored, you know, 441 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,400 all that. And I'll say play. 442 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,320 And I told my son one day, I said, listen, buddy, my Mama 443 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,960 would lock me out of the house and allowed to come in and even 444 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,600 use the bathroom. Now, that was a little extreme. 445 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,840 And I'm not saying my childhood was awesome because it wasn't, 446 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,640 but I'm just saying it made me go find some ants. 447 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,480 Exactly. It made me go search some woods 448 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,840 and, you know, figure out something to do because I was 449 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,480 literally bored. Like I had nothing to do and I 450 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,680 had to if I was going to pass the time. 451 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,360 And he does not even fathom that. 452 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:17,360 And I, I've watched something happen in my household that has 453 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,160 been alarming to me. And I see it too now, even with 454 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,080 older people, 60 and older, they're very addicted to 455 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,920 technology because it's addictive, right? 456 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,880 Like the guys that created these won't even let that. 457 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,840 Wouldn't even let their. Own kids on them. 458 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,480 I want people to realize that like here what she just said. 459 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,880 Well, that is so interesting. And I'm going to break into this 460 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,600 other thing. Since I talked to you last time, 461 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,080 I've created a coaching class for adults because every time I 462 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,600 go talk to adults, they're like, yeah, I need this too. 463 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,760 It's called Break the Chain, and it's Dear Phone. 464 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,040 It's not me, it's you we're going to break up with. 465 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,840 Our phone. Oh, and that feels like if, if 466 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,400 I've talked to many of my clients that I'm like, you 467 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,360 haven't done the homework. You said you're going to do what 468 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:00,280 you do while I scrolled. On my phone, my whole thing with 469 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,000 it, I am not looking to restrict people's behavior. 470 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,520 I want to build good habits because as you build your 471 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,680 habits, that other behavior is going to go away because you 472 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,800 become addicted to your good habits. 473 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,120 Like the word habit isn't bad. There's just good habits and bad 474 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,200 habits. What's interesting is that's 475 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,120 exactly what I'm going for because I looked at again, I'm 476 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:21,800 doing this AI have a heart for people. 477 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,080 I want them to be off of it, but if planet fast is going to work, 478 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,520 we have to get off the phones too. 479 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,720 If we're going to save our kids, We got to lead by example. 480 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,920 But I love. Smoking and telling your kid not 481 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,880 to smoke while you're smoking. You I call cell phones, I call 482 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,360 social media, the cigarette of 2020 because the people who 483 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,120 built them, you guys, they know they're addictive. 484 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:40,240 They're built like slot machines. 485 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,480 That's actually my first class is like, let me tell you what 486 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,840 these people are purposely doing to you. 487 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:47,680 That should make you very mad. And then it should also make you 488 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,160 not wanting to put your kids on because their brains aren't even 489 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,560 fully formed yet, you know, and this is addictive thing. 490 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,480 The average adult is on their phone 864 hours a year. 491 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:06,280 That's 108 eight hour work days. I went to the DMV, my friend, I 492 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,160 brought my book because I'm going to read and I put my phone 493 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,560 away and I was reading my book and I would shut my book and 494 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,640 just stare at people for a while. 495 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,640 And then, you know, everybody's, everybody was on their phone. 496 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,760 So this sweet little girl, she's sitting in from her mother and 497 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,240 she her mom, she the kids come in the mom. 498 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,000 And then there were 3 little ducklings, right? 499 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,240 And I posted about this even on Facebook the other day because I 500 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,200 was like, Oh my gosh, this is so crazy. 501 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,200 So I watched this happening before my eyes and recognizing I 502 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,040 like I can this way too. Like right? 503 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,680 There's no judgement here like we're admitting that this is a 504 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,520 societal issue that we have right now. 505 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,800 Yeah. Well, when I would have broke my 506 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,000 heart in that moment was watching this mom come in with 507 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,560 her teenage kid. The teenage kid had her phone. 508 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,440 The 10 year old boy, 9 year old boy had his phone. 509 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,880 And then there was a little girl who's probably 5, maybe four or 510 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,960 five years old, and she didn't have a phone. 511 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,880 But the rest of them did. All three of them sat down in 512 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,520 chairs next to each other. And the little girl, the third 513 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,640 child, didn't sit in a chair because there wasn't one of 514 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,440 available. So she's just standing there. 515 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,880 And everybody that was sitting pulled their phone immediately 516 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,600 out at the same time, like In Sync and started looking at 517 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,160 their phone. And the little girl was like, 518 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,400 what do I do? She didn't have a phone. 519 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,440 So then she fiddled around for a while. 520 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,200 I smiled at her, did a few things, you know, looked at her. 521 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,200 She was, you know, just trying to figure out what to do with 522 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,440 her life. And her mom, I guess, was 523 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,800 playing a game on her phone. So the little girl was trying to 524 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,040 pull her mom's fingers off of her phone to just get some 525 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,280 attention. She wasn't being obnoxious about 526 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,160 it even nobody would have noticed. 527 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,680 And the mom just like shoe shoe like she shoot her daughter away 528 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,440 like you stop this is my thing like leave me alone. 529 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,040 And the little girls just I could see the defeat in the 530 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,000 little girls face and I just wanted to scoop that little girl 531 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,520 up and say like, Hey, you matter. 532 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,320 Because what I saw in that moment wasn't the addiction to 533 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,920 the phones and the and which is what was happening. 534 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,320 But what I saw in that moment was a little girl getting a 535 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,000 message that I am not important. I am not important as what 536 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,960 you're doing on that dumb phone. Put it down. 537 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,720 I don't care who it is, if it's not an emergency, put it. 538 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,360 Down that is so damaging to the to little kids because one of 539 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:13,000 the ways they learn to that their brains get wired is 540 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,360 looking at us and communicating. Right, right. 541 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,840 And that Mama never even once talked to that little girl the 542 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,920 whole time. I was there for five hours, so I 543 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,120 watched a lot. Terrible. 544 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,880 But it was, it was very sad because the whole time they were 545 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,560 there, they came and left. Before I was, I did because I 546 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,480 was getting my real ID and they would do something different. 547 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,160 And she never interacted with her children. 548 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,960 The children didn't interact with one another. 549 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,960 One thing that we have on the app, you'll appreciate it, we 550 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,000 have quick hits and one of them is in line. 551 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,600 So we'll just give you really quick little things to do when 552 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,880 you're standing in line at a grocery store or at the DMV or 553 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,120 at the airport so that you give your kids something to do and 554 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,520 you don't put them on the screens because, Oh my gosh. 555 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,960 And you know, there's two things I want 2 exercises I want to do 556 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,480 right now. First is imagine going to sleep 557 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,800 in 2003. I think we have flip phones at 558 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,560 the time. Waking up now and looking around 559 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,560 and everybody is staring at this weird glass thing in their hand 560 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,400 that's shocking. Like you'd be like, what is 561 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,880 everybody doing? The other thing that I always 562 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,480 like to do when I catch myself and the reason I'm teaching this 563 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,360 class, I want everybody to know I am going through this with 564 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:18,840 you. Like I have absolute grace in 565 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,440 this because I catch myself doing this. 566 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,800 I'll go to send an e-mail and I see one of the icons and I'm, 567 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,560 I'm over on Facebook. What am I doing? 568 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,840 I was just telling you about my 20 year old cat, Miss Loki. 569 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,480 And by the way, she's one of our characters. 570 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,160 But in the story, she's a dog because we had too many cats, 571 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,720 but she's a very cute dog. I was doing something the other 572 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,440 day and I was looking at my phone and she was sitting next 573 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,600 to me and she's really, she's really old. 574 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,480 And I asked myself, and this is the second exercise, think of 575 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,920 your this moment 20 years from now and that you're looking back 576 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,720 at it. And I said to myself, do I want 577 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,280 to be on my phone or do I want my be paying attention to this 578 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,160 sweet old cat that isn't going to be with me for much longer? 579 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,040 You know, tears welled off. I'm like, put my stupid phone, 580 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,440 like she's not going to be here. So I think, you know, this is a 581 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,000 really valuable conversation. We're not going to switch this 582 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,440 by just talking about it. And that is why, you know, I've 583 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,000 come up with these the books. So the books, quite frankly, 584 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,840 they're just they're long books. They've got a story, They've got 585 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,760 a value that you can teach your kids. 586 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,320 And then it's got some of these activities. 587 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,760 And my idea was just to get kids loving the characters because on 588 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,040 the app, it's a parents app that they get to pick what character 589 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240 they want to be and they all have different personalities. 590 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,040 So it was just kind of a way to get the parents and the kids 591 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,440 used to planet Faza and the characters. 592 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,600 We can talk about it. We can talk about what's 593 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,160 happening, but or we can do something. 594 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,840 So that's like we've got new books, we've got the app coming 595 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,600 out. And again, one thing that I'm 596 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,720 really excited about South, I wanted to talk to you, Catherine 597 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,120 about it when we launched the app. 598 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,840 And I'm thinking that's going to be October because we're going 599 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,720 to do beta testing. So if anybody's listening to 600 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,120 these, So we're going to come out with a beta test just to 601 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,000 people click around in it and say, hey, this made sense this 602 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,840 dinner. And then we're going to come out 603 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,280 with the app. And I would love you to be one 604 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,560 of our pilot people because what we're going to do is have a few 605 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,080 families in there and just do it for a month. 606 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,680 But I'm also going to offer mom and dad my coaching class. 607 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760 So it's just a four week class. All I'm doing is I'm just going 608 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,120 to show you what the phone's doing and give you simple but 609 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,920 life changing things to do during the week. 610 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,920 And I just want to hear as we do this holistically, how do we 611 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840 feel at the end? Because that to me is so 612 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,640 powerful because then we're all doing it together. 613 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,560 This coaching program is starting September 8th. 614 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,160 I'm doing a pilot of that first because I just want to see if 615 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,880 people like it. But in order to get people into 616 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:36,480 it, I had to pick up my phone and call people, people I 617 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,880 haven't talked to and forever I tech. 618 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,080 I've texted them, but I haven't talked to them. 619 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,360 And I have to tell you, I am lighter because of it. 620 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,080 And it's funny because I'll call people and they're like, are you 621 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,600 OK? And I'm like, no, I'm just 622 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,360 calling because. And we end up talking and 623 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,280 laughing and enjoying each other. 624 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,640 And I'm just like, Oh my gosh, that's going to be one of my 625 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,200 weekly challenges. Call somebody. 626 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,560 You don't have to start connecting again. 627 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,680 A lot of the stuff these ills we're seeing in the world will 628 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,440 go away if we start talking to each other because we don't need 629 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,560 each other. We don't. 630 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,440 We're just being told to hate each other. 631 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,880 One other funny story. I gave this app, I gave my idea 632 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,800 to this company who's building it, and I gave them one activity 633 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,920 called the Alphabet People. And that's just you and your 634 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,720 kids or whoever makes words out of your body. 635 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,160 And all the activities are super fun and easy like that. 636 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,440 But anyway, they came back with the first round and he had 637 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,520 developed 15 more Nuggets. So like, look at this is working 638 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440 and he's probably in his 20s. But he did that on his own, came 639 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,000 back with all these ideas for activities. 640 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,720 I'm like well I've got 1. And that's what I need because 641 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,560 of that's my issue. It's like, OK, so I'm on 642 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,640 technology a lot, screens a lot because I work online and it 643 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,760 does feel so hard to unplug from that power source. 644 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,160 And I remember the Holy Spirit tell me one day, I think it was 645 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,680 in 2020 when I first started working online. 646 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,720 Prior to that, even my husband, you know, we dated for a while 647 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,320 too. And I was working at a church 648 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,520 and I would hear my phone Ding and I wouldn't touch it. 649 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,360 And I'd say, I, I, I'm not at work, I'm not, I'm not answering 650 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,160 that. And then I started working for 651 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,720 myself at home in 2020. And he said, I've never seen you 652 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,960 like this, like this is not good. 653 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,880 And I'm like, I don't know how to, I don't know how else to do 654 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,840 it. I would never be on social 655 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,640 media. My job would want me to be like, 656 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,360 better about being on social media. 657 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,760 And I was like, that's just not who I am. 658 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,680 And now I am that person because. 659 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,400 I have to be. So what I have was doing was 660 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,440 taking a walk one day with the Lord and I said, I don't know 661 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,400 what's happened to me, but I don't like it. 662 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,080 Something's changed and I feel different and I don't know what 663 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,240 it is. And this was about a year after 664 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,480 I started my my business online. And he said it's because you've 665 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,200 plugged into the wrong power source. 666 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,120 You unplugged from me and you plugged into the Internet. 667 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,800 And I thought, whoa, OK, I didn't even recognize it was 668 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,080 100% true. As soon as he said it, I 669 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,040 recognized it. And yes, like I live breathe 670 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,840 searching and Youtubing and podcasting and I was trying to 671 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,360 learn how to do tech and equipment and how to film 672 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,000 myself, how to start a zoom, how to do I had no idea how to do 673 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,760 anything and your. Your brain is your. 674 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,600 Brain is too much and my son would say can you play with me? 675 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,360 And I would be like no, no. They're too tired. 676 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,440 No capacity. I am done and stressed out. 677 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,080 That's. Another thing I talk about, and 678 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,200 I love being on your show because it's Christian. 679 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 People cannot pray if they don't have their imagination. 680 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880 Yeah. Because our whole belief is a 681 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,320 miracle. If you don't have your 682 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720 imagination, you cannot tap into Him. 683 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,720 And you know, praying is meditating on the Word and 684 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,080 picturing yourself in the presence of our God. 685 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,680 And if you exhaust your brain, you can't do that. 686 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,160 So if you don't think it's the devil coming at us through this, 687 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,680 this is theme. Yes, it's no news. 688 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,040 Why? I started with what I said, 689 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,680 because it is like we're tied up in bondage, a slave to our 690 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,320 devices and. Even I don't. 691 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Have the word, yes. But think about the word 692 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,480 devices. There's a scripture, I think 693 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,160 it's in Proverbs somewhere about being given over to our own 694 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,840 devices. That's the scripture. 695 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,360 And yeah. And so when we're being given 696 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,840 over to our devices, which we all are guilty at some level or 697 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080 another because they're literally addictive, right? 698 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,400 But when we're given over to our devices, we are not, not free. 699 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,240 And that is the biggest thing. My mission in life is to be 700 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,600 free, whole, healed, in healthy from the inside out, to help 701 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,200 other women do the same, to be free from whatever it is that's 702 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160 holding us in bondage. And I remember working with a 703 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,200 client once who struggled with her health, but she would not 704 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,600 turn off the TV, the Netflix, the scrolling. 705 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,480 And even at night, her kids, they were, they were struggling 706 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,640 too. And her kids would have, I said, 707 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,320 what's your nighttime routine? So we watch TikTok for 30 708 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,200 minutes before bed. I'm like, how about read a book 709 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640 together, you know, trying to shut it off? 710 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,520 And one of the things that I've noticed is my husband has even 711 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,480 gotten this way where it's just easier because he's exhausted. 712 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,200 He works really hard to turn the TV on and let my son just watch 713 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,960 TV. And that's their time together. 714 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,200 And it's not good. Now, he's really good at 715 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400 playing. He's way even better at playing 716 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,160 imaginative games than I am. But the challenge that I have 717 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,160 seen is the exhaustion of the parent. 718 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,080 And then we are also on our devices and we are the example. 719 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320 And that's why I went after leaders, women who are raising 720 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,120 their hand and self identifying as a leader in their life, 721 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,320 whether that's in their home or they're they're a business 722 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,720 leader in their work or whatever. 723 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,400 Because when you affect change at the top, it affects change. 724 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,800 It trickles down to the bottom. And so that's why I love that 725 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,400 you're moving into the grown up space in all this, because that 726 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080 is a big problem. If grandparents and parents want 727 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,200 to help their children get back their lives and they see where 728 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,080 this is going, that the enemies comes to steal, kill and 729 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,400 destroy, that's in our time, our finances and in our health. 730 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,600 And you just said how many 100 and 8:40 or 8 hour days? 731 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:54,800 Yeah, that's stealing our and. And the amount of people I've 732 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,120 talked to, to sign up for the pilot, you know, my, my guitar's 733 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,600 been sitting here for five years. 734 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,320 You know, I, I've wanted to take this class and I said, I'm going 735 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080 to get you one hour back a day. Just give me one hour. 736 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,840 And we're, we're going to call it the dream hour. 737 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,520 And you're going to do your dream during that hour. 738 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,920 Imagine what you would do in 365 hours. 739 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,199 And as I said, that kind of stuff becomes a good kind of 740 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,080 addictive. You know what I mean? 741 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,199 You're like, good, or I'm working out. 742 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,320 And then you take back your, your life from that. 743 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,239 Steal, kill and destroy. I've come to give you life. 744 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,280 And more abundantly. We have to do it. 745 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,960 You hit on something so important. 746 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,920 It's exhausting. It's exhausting to look at these 747 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,159 screens all day. Your brain hurts. 748 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,520 Yeah. And then you can't. 749 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,440 Your thoughts are scrambled. Then they go to school and they 750 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,400 get it too because at school my son has to have he in 751 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,760 kindergarten last year. I remember freaking out about 752 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,960 this because I I homeschooled my two older ones, but when they 753 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,280 were younger, they went to school and there wasn't computer 754 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,520 stopping this back then even. And one of his required things 755 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,600 to have was a set of headphones for his computer. 756 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,600 And I remember when I did a tour of the school and this is a 757 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,719 public school, but I wanted to see it before he went to 758 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,680 kindergarten that I walked into the school and looked through 759 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,240 the little people that they let me look through. 760 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,920 And all the kids were sitting at their computers behind what 761 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,720 looked like cubicles. They were all like being covered 762 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,960 from each other from some like they couldn't even it was weird 763 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,800 and they were all in their computers and all I could see 764 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,160 was little tiny cubicle workers. But they all had headphones on 765 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,760 and they were all staring at their screens. 766 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,160 And I was just appalled at how much movie time watching Rio and 767 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,840 you know Horton years of who nothing that's educational. 768 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,000 Even just watching dumb crap on the on the screen, you know, 769 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,760 constantly. And I was so upset by this. 770 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,800 But at the same time, who am I? Because here I am on my screen. 771 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,640 You know, a checking everything obsessively emailed. 772 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,760 I just opened e-mail app. Why am I opening this again? 773 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,840 It's only been 30 seconds. Yeah, that's that's that's 774 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,760 exactly what might break the chain class is because it's not 775 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,800 about quitting, it's about intentionality, like be 776 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,320 intentional about what you're doing. 777 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,480 And I, I mean, I bet you that DMV experience is upsetting as a 778 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,880 5 hour experience was because you were reading your book. 779 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,120 I bet you you felt great after that. 780 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Yeah, because. Then I wasted all that time. 781 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,320 I didn't get to play with my kid that day. 782 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,120 Yeah, but. You got a. 783 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Real ID So I mean, it's important you can go places now, 784 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,000 but this is something that we're just going to have to do as a 785 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,720 society. And I say this a lot, but we're 786 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,080 going to have to be more patient with the mom who is in the 787 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560 grocery store and her kid is having a breakdown and she 788 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,880 doesn't want to put put them on the screen. 789 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,960 We're going to have to give her grace and be like, she'll get 790 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,000 them calm down. Because when you put your kids 791 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,120 on the screen, when you're doing that, you are actually making 792 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,480 those things last longer because they're not learning to cope 793 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,240 with their, you know, cope with that kind of stuff. 794 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:35,320 So it's just going to keep happening. 795 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,360 But if we got parents allowing their kids to have the breakdown 796 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,960 and then, you know, fixing it normally like we used to without 797 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,760 a screen, that kids going to stop doing that hopefully, but 798 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,360 we can't get mad, like just give them a screen, stuff like that. 799 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,160 It's going to take a change. But but someone asked me, like, 800 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,880 if there was a movie, like if I had a movie title, what I would 801 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,160 call my life right now, it would be a street full of laughter. 802 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,680 Because when Planet Fasta takes off and we're going to talk 803 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,280 positively, I cannot wait for streets to be filled with kids 804 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,680 again laughing. Yeah. 805 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,920 Great. Yeah, well, and it was in 2020. 806 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,280 I feel like that was one thing I noticed that I really loved just 807 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,080 watching not just the kids, but even the grown. 808 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,040 UPS. Outside and playing ball and 809 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,000 riding their golf carts around the neighborhood and just being 810 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,480 outside because they were just bored. 811 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,560 Really. Seriously. 812 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,000 I'm telling you, boredom is you guys. 813 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,240 Boredom is key. Even with all the technology, I 814 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,880 did see, you know, that social distancing, really when we were 815 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,120 having to do that, that was when I saw the most I'd ever seen 816 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,520 people being outside. And the neighborhood was full. 817 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,960 I could hear the noises of the neighbors outside. 818 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,920 And yeah, now it's like I said to my son last night, hey, 819 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,880 buddy, let's go outside and take a walk because I don't want to 820 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,560 go outside. I'm like, but that's where 821 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,200 what's what we're doing. So, you know, that's what we're 822 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:49,720 doing. Yeah. 823 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120 And then the whole time he was like, OK, he had this game and 824 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,400 we played this game, the whole walk. 825 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,360 It was his imagination game or whatever. 826 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,920 But, you know, then he immediately, and maybe you can 827 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,600 help me with this. I'm going to ask your advice. 828 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,440 In the morning he wakes up and he says can I watch TV every 829 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,680 single morning? It's like he can't really wake 830 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,760 up unless he watches TV. And it bothers me because I 831 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,200 don't want him to wake up and just go to a screen. 832 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,880 I don't do that. I don't watch TV. 833 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,000 You know, you know what I would say the biggest thing I've 834 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,840 learned and everything I've done is you can't just take a 835 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,440 behavior away. You have to replace it with 836 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,880 something else instead of, you know, get off the screen. 837 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,840 So just find something else for him to do. 838 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,360 That's his morning routine. You know, it's like when you, if 839 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,240 you people who drink, when they stop drinking, they have to 840 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,640 replace that 5:00 hour with a walk. 841 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,400 So I would just find something else that he likes to do in the 842 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,600 morning and just put his attention over there and then 843 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,120 that will become his healthy habit. 844 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,720 And that's kind of what I'm talking about. 845 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:47,800 It's not just restricting, it's replacing. 846 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,600 Yeah, that's so true. But like just the fight of it. 847 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,840 Like, but I just want to watch TVI don't want a color. 848 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,040 I don't want to read a book. I don't. 849 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,920 Want yeah, I I'm but but remember, like the addicting 850 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,560 thing. So he's addicted to something 851 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,920 too. You can find you'll find 852 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,760 something. Ask him like what would yeah, 853 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,240 maybe he can walk the dogs. He can put him in jail every 854 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:06,520 morning. Yeah. 855 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,440 He's so funny, but he does have a great imagination because 856 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,240 sometimes I'm just like, I don't. 857 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:12,320 You have. I don't know. 858 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,440 You're going to have to think of that. 859 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,240 I don't. Yeah. 860 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,280 I don't have a clue. And kids are awesome. 861 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,320 And I, if your kid is fighting with you, remember you were a 862 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,400 kid too. When we all fight with our 863 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960 parents, that's what they're fighting with you about is 864 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,160 addictive. We've got to remember that. 865 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,520 Do you don't want your kids addicted to anything. 866 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,520 So next time you look at a cell phone, next time I'm going to 867 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,600 put a vision in everybody's head. 868 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,880 But next time you see a kid on a cell phone picture that could be 869 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,000 smoking a cigarette and be like, no, because cigarettes we know 870 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,920 are bad for us. They the amount of research 871 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,560 showing how bad these phones are for these kids brains is over 872 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,760 the top. Like it's bad, so. 873 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,760 For sure. Well, I'm excited about 874 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,000 everybody coming over and getting a chance to go look at 875 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,400 your website. Would you share that? 876 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,840 How can people find the FASA tails? 877 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,760 It's all out on sscoulter.com and if you go out there, you can 878 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,520 see all the stuff about the planet FASA. 879 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,400 You can also see information about the new coaching. 880 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,360 Put your name there. If you're interested in hearing 881 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,720 more about it, I will call you and tell you about it and see if 882 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:10,760 you're interested in it. So. 883 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,840 And how can somebody sign up to be part of your pilot? 884 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,000 Oh, yes, thank you for asking that. 885 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,320 Yeah, on the Planet Fossett page and also there's a page, but the 886 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,880 app there will, there's a pop up that says if you're interested 887 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,640 in being a beta tester, sign up here and there's another place 888 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,640 where you can sign up for updates and we'll tell you when 889 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,760 it's ready. OK, that's fantastic. 890 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,400 And for people to be listening, just go down to the show notes. 891 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,200 I'll put the link to her website so you can go straight there 892 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,360 down in the show notes. I love your work. 893 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,680 I think what you're doing is important because it is bringing 894 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,720 about freedom. That's the whole goal. 895 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,600 I love that so much. Creating healthier rhythms, 896 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,680 making those small shifts, replacing behaviors, those are 897 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,640 all really important. And it does start from the top 898 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,000 down South, parents, grandparents that are listening. 899 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,360 The change starts with you. If you want to see different in 900 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,360 your life, we have to do different in our life. 901 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,200 And that takes a village at times, not just to raise a 902 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,080 child, but to help us as well. But I wanted to thank you for 903 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,520 listening into the show today. If this episode resonated with 904 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,440 you, if you got value in today's conversation, I would love for 905 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,720 you to just take a few minutes and rate and review the show. 906 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,880 And while you're at it, go ahead and share this with a friend who 907 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,440 definitely needs to hear this message too. 908 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,560 And I look forward to chatting again, and I'll see you here on 909 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,280 the next one.