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So if I have this thought like, 
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I'm constantly thinking that 
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pathway that's being developed. 
Now let's say I read the Bible 

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and the Bible says that I'm 
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created in God's image. 
OK, so now I'm starting to break

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that stronghold. 
I'm reading the Bible. 

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The more that I come into 
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the more that the stronghold 
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to die. 
And that's exactly what happens 

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in our bodies. 
The stronger neuro pathway, the 

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one that's filled with truth, 
which is how it got designed our

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bodies to be, actually kills the
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It takes its place. 
Two thoughts that are opposite 

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of each other actually cannot 
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time. 
Welcome to the Free to Lead 

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podcast where we go deep and 
talk about all the things that 

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are holding us back from walking
fully in Our Calling and our 

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identity in Christ. 
You know that desire to write 

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the book, to build the business,
to start the ministry, to 

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finally step out into that God 
sized dream that he's placed in 

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your heart. 
But then you start hearing those

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voices, the shame from the past,
the exhaustion from burnout, or 

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that endless cycle of comparing 
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It can feel like your feet are 
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are tied and like no matter how 
hard you try, you just cannot 

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move forward. 
Friend, I have been there too. 

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And the truth is, you can't lead
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You can't porn to others when 
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leading from wounds instead of 
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That's why I'm so excited for 
today's guest, Sienna Kopishki. 

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Sienna is a prophetic business 
coach and corporate intercessor 

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who helps Christian women 
consecrate their work to God and

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build for His Kingdom. 
She's the founder of 

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Consecration Academy and her 
heart is to see women lead with 

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authenticity, confidence, and 
freedom, not from hustle or 

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comparison, but from wholeness 
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Today we're talking about what 
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place of wholeness and how inner
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comparison can equip you to step
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leadership that God has called 
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This conversation is going to be
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I know it's going to be 
practical for you, so let's dive

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in. 
Sienna, thank you so much for 

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Welcome to the show. 
Thank you so much. 

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I am actually really excited to 
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the topic of wholeness for all 
the women that are listening to 

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this episode today. 
Yes, me too. 

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So let's dive into that. 
You know, you had said that you 

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can't lead well if you're not 
whole, and I agree with you 

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100%. 
Can you share what leading from 

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a place of wholeness really even
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out for you? 
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things I think that we forget as
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is to guard our heart. 
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everything else, right? 
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Scripture tells us that. 
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we're not going through inner 
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shame and the burnout, which by 
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Jesus already died for on the 
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Like he already took that 
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He already took your shame, He 
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And so we're like just allowing 
that to be something that sticks

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in our heart and we're not able 
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we're we're feeling shame, we're
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all these things. 
Then we've kind of may miss the 

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point of Jesus's death for us. 
We're carrying that into spaces 

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that he never intended us to 
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And we have to be willing to go 
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people, our clients, our 
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like do the things that he's 
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a healed heart. 
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other people to feel the things 
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I hope that makes sense. 
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Absolutely. 
It makes a ton of sense and 

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you're right, it's you said feel
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There's something I I heard a 
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Hurting people hurt people, but 
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And yes. 
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our homes, even our children, 
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it's time to get healed. 
It is so time to get healed 

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because our kids deserve that, 
our husbands deserve that, You 

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deserve that and Jesus paid the 
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So I love that so much. 
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laying down a six figure 
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rebuild you. 
That's pretty scary to think 

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about doing and even to walk 
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job or or business. 
How did that experience expose 

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areas of brokenness or burnout 
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Yeah, so I'm going to be honest,
I didn't really have a choice. 

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It wasn't something that God was
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consider doing something 
different rate September of 2023

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when I was sitting at a women's 
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the Lord so audibly say to me, 
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Now at this point of my life, I 
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very interesting because if you 
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actually two years later, now 
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You would look at me and go, 
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you were lukewarm. 
But I was, yeah, just two years 

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ago. 
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shut down your business. 
Now, this was the first time I 

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had ever heard God's voice so 
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I don't know why, but I've 
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people, women, men, even 
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OK, is this God's voice? 
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Is this the enemy's voice? 
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knew it was God's voice, but I I
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And so I went to these group of 
women who I thought were better 

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Christians than me. 
Air Quotation Marks and because 

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no ones better than you. 
God actually has no favorites 

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according to the Bible. 
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and I said, hey, I think the 
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my business. 
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God is not calling you to shut 
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I said, OK, I just listened to 
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I kept going on with my life. 
Two days later comes, it's a 

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Sunday and I'm sitting back in 
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hear the Lord say again, you 
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I'm taking you into ministry. 
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was very, very lukewarm. 
So ministry, that sounds like a 

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joke. 
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There's no way I was going into 
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I can't even leave myself. 
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was still very confused. 
I went back to that same group 

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of women after church on Sunday 
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really think God is saying I 
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I need to go into ministry. 

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lines of, well, God could use 
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that, right? 
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voice. 
I'm interpreting it very 

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literally. 
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that are like, yeah, God could 
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So I just start sprinkling Jesus
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doing. 
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God says you haven't listened to
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from you. 
So January, I had my highest 

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I had all this money and I just 
like spent it on so many 

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different things. 
Granted, none of these things 

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were bad things, but they just 
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spend the money because at the 
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Lord's and everything and it 
belongs to him and that 

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includes, but it's not limited 
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And, and the money that we have 
possession over and so, and I 

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didn't really fully understand 
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I just was like, let me splurge 
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I never tithe. 
I never gave to the homeless or,

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you know, helped other people 
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not like on a consistent basis. 
And, and God was just like, OK, 

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you're not doing what I've 
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I'm taking it away before the 
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I lost all of my clients. 
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I had nothing. 
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My entire business crumbled 
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legitimately confused like how 
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How is this possible? 
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months where I sat in a prayer 
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I like the movie War Room. 
Have you seen that? 

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Movie. 
I love that movie, Yeah. 

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So I, I watched that movie and I
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my closet and I was like OK hold
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And so I started praying and I, 
I went on fast, I mean fast 

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after fast. 
I mean this went on for like 8 

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Something along those lines. 

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It was a lot of me fasting and 
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to God. 
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that time. 
He said, Sienna, you will never 

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lack, but I need you to tithe. 
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tithe if I don't have any money?
I mean, I'm married so my 

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husband has income. 
And so that income came into our

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family and took care of our 
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But I'm like, OK, God, I don't 
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Like I have no fund money. 
I have no gas money. 

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I have no grocery money. 
I have no money for like, like 

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my household bills are paid. 
How am I supposed to get food? 

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How am I? 
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don't worry about any of that. 
I'm going to take care of it. 

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He came in supernaturally. 

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I don't even know how to explain
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And he knew what he was doing. 
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he brought, he bought us food. 
Like, so I have so many 

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testimonies during this period 
of my life, like just everything

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that I could have ever needed, 
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I was in a season where my bank 
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not in luck. 
I just wasn't. 

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I, I had everything that I 
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Everything was taken care of, 
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But God had to break a lot of 
things off of me #1 he had to 

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break off pride. 
I was very prideful. 

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I had built this business by 
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I made six figures. 
It's me, me, me, me, me. 

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I was driving my dream car. 
I really wanted a Tesla. 

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I bought a Tesla. 
You know, I had a housekeeper, I

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had a babysit. 
I had like, all of these things 

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and it was just all about me. 
There was so much pride. 

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And God was like, I have to 
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Like, I'm, I'm taking you 
somewhere. 

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I'm going to give you more than 
what? 

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Than six figures. 
Like he, he's already promised 

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you're going to be a 
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But in order for you to get 
there, I have to remove pride 

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from you #1 and I have to remove
you believing that your money is

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yours. 
And I need to teach you how to 

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trust me when it comes to your 
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And it took a very long time. 
I eventually came to this place 

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where I had to trust God with my
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I don't really have worry when 
it comes to money, regardless of

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the number that's in my bank 
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It could be negative. 
It could be 20,000, it could be 

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0, it could be $1.00 a penny. 
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because at the end of the day, I
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arms. 
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need, food, water, housing, 
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something, he's going to provide
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Oh, my goodness, yes. 
So when you're in that season of

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lack, when you're like, OK, I 
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having no idea what you were 
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when you were talking about I 
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I had no gas money, had, you 
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paid, but the extra wasn't there
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I have been there. 
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season of lack, how did you not 
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to figure this out. 
I've got to do something 

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different. 
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don't know, performing whatever 
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How did you really rest and 
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your business, for your next? 
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first month of me really fasting
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my next I think I may I didn't 
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sharing, but he told me what I 
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know how to create this. 
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one who gave me the name for my 
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Sienna, I need you to create a 
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called Consecration Academy and 
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back to my Kingdom. 
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you know, he had explained that 
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with Christians now. 
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Christians before, especially 
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I wasn't on fire. 
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Christians into what God has for
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I was still trying to figure 
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And to be honest with you, God 
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Like he didn't just give me the 
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that we would be meeting. 
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would be doing inside of this 
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And what's very interesting is 
today, like the program looks 

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exactly like what he said it 
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2024. 
It looks exactly like that today

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in 2025. 
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Because we're in September. 
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Was it very hard? 
It was the hardest season of my 

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life. 
I cried more than you could ever

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imagine. 
I fasted and I had no idea how 

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to really fast. 
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the church that I was going to 
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very toxic environment. 
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my leaders or from my pastors at
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I literally had to figure this 
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And at that moment of my life, I
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I don't really know you, but I 
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I don't really know what comes 
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God. 
I know that if you created the 

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universe, then you have a plan 
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My husband, at this point, like 
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even a believer. 
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Like we're going through this. 

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help Christian women and and 
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starting a men's division that 
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consecration heavy, which is 
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My husband is now on fire for 
the Lord because of this season.

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It didn't just save me, it saved
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It was very hard. 
Lots of tears, lots of what are 

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we going to do next? 
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about like, how are we going to 
get like, because again, he 

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wasn't a believer. 
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Jesus and he's looking at me 
like, are you on drugs like? 

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What do you mean you just? 
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mean there's no money? 
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coming through. 
He's like, there's no money. 

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no money. 
How are we getting groceries? 

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And I'm like, sweetheart, we got
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And they're like, you know, I 
again, this is, it's a weird 

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conversation to have with a non 
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But in that process of me 
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God for next steps and 
direction, God touched my 

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husband. 
Like my husband saw what I was 

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going through and he was like, I
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And then we had some very 
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attacks as a result of that, a 
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But I'm so glad there's so many 
things I've healed from since 

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then that has led me into the to
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And one of the things that I 
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listening to this and you're 
like, OK, well, I don't really 

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know what this means. 
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your heart posture matters, 
right? 

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The Bible tells us in Galatians 
522 about the fruits of the 

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Spirit, Lovejoy, peace, 
patience, kindness, goodness, 

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gentleness, faithfulness, and 
self-control. 

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If we are not in positions to 
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patience is a big one. 
Kindness, gentleness, right? 

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If we're not, if our heart isn't
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then at some capacity we're 
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And as blunt as that is, it just
is the truth. 

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We have to be ready to heal 
because then when we start 

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healing, we can serve people 
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Out of love, when the scripture 
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Greek text, out of love comes 
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spirit. 
It's not. 

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You find Jesus and all of a 
sudden you have Lovejoy, peace, 

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patience, kindness. 
You find Jesus and you find 

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love. 
And through you, knowing how 

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deeply the Father loves you and 
you also loving the Father back,

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you loving Jesus back comes all 
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Spirit is how the original text 
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So I think it's very important 
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I'm in a work situation, am I 
being patient with my clients, 

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customers? 
Am I being patient? 

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Am I being loving? 
Am I being kind? 

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And if you need a definition of 
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chapter 13 verses 4 through 7. 
It walks you through the 

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definition of love. 
Love is love is patient, love is

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kind, love is not envious or I'm
like doing this off of my minds 

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right now, like my ring. 
But like all of these things. 

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We can find the definition for 
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important that we are exhibiting
that in every aspect of our. 

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Lives. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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I have so many questions, OK. 
So. 

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Yeah, I'm like writing them down
as fast as I can because there's

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so many things I want to dig 
into here, and I'm not sure if 

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we'll have time to dig into them
all because what you're saying 

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is so important. 
Your story is incredible. 

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Praise God, Really. 
I'm so thankful for your 

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husband's coming to Christ, for 
your family, for him too, 

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obviously, but for your family 
in general as a whole. 

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So, yeah, in your face devil 
there. 

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So business versus ministry, 
something you said early on is 

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the people at your former church
were telling you that your 

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business could just be your 
ministry. 

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And you were like, I can't do 
this because I don't even know 

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how to lead myself well in 
ministry, so to speak. 

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How can I do that? 
I've I've completely been there 

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as well. 
I remember here in the Lord say 

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you're going to work for my 
church someday. 

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And I was like scoffed at him. 
I was like, yeah, right. 

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Only pastors work for churches. 
Don't you know what? 

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My life is a big mess. 
Lord, don't you see any of this?

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And that was before I even knew 
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a whole nother topic you've 
you've talked about hearing from

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God as well. 
So how did you get to this point

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where you gave up or while God 
took it from you, your business 

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before and now you're doing this
beautiful business and ministry 

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because that is what what your 
business is. 

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And I think it's a wonderful 
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How did you get to that point 
where you're like, OK, I heard 

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the Lord tell me, here's 
Consecration Academy, here's the

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plan for that, Which is awesome 
that He gave you all of that and

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you started working towards it. 
But how did you heal those 

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things that you had talked about
in the meantime to get your 

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business from being just a 
business that brings in an 

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income to being a business that 
brings in income and an impact? 

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So you're providing for your 
family and you're now probably 

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tithing now you're probably 
giving to the homeless where you

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weren't before. 
What was the healing process? 

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Can you just walk somebody 
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Because you had also mentioned 
that people weren't part of that

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because your church didn't 
understand. 

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And I get that whole space too. 
But how did you heal those 

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things? 
Or we'll walk through it with 

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the Lord, obviously. 
And could you just encourage 

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somebody today who maybe feeling
like they've been trying to do 

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it on their own, but that 
they're stuck and they, they 

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know that there's some things in
their way, but they're not sure 

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how to get them healed in order 
to create the income and the 

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impact that they know God's 
called them to do. 

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So I'm a very radical Christian.
I'm going to just be very honest

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with you when I say radical in 
that sense, I mean, not 

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everybody agrees with some of 
the things that I'm about. 

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I may say, but what I will say 
is the Bible is perfect. 

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It is perfect. 
We know that, right? 

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It's God's word. 
Romans 12/2 says don't copy the 

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behavior and customs of this 
world, but let God transform you

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into a new person by changing 
the way that you think. 

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Then you will learn to know 
God's will for you, which is 

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good and pleasing and perfect. 
One of the biggest things that 

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if you are struggling with going
through, OK, I have to heal. 

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Maybe you have anger, right? 
A lot of people have anger. 

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This may come about maybe not to
your clients and customers, but 

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in your house, right? 
And God does look at what we do 

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in our. 
House he looks at how we 

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communicate with our spouses, 
how we communicate with our 

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children. 
These things are important to 

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the Lord because your spouse is 
not your spouse and your child 

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is not your child. 
They are souls that belong to 

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Jesus at the end of the day. 
And that's how I like to look at

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it, like my son is not really my
son. 

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He is a disciple of Christ and 
it's important for me to raise 

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him up in that capacity. 
So when it comes to renewing my 

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own mind, in order for me to 
raise my child, let alone help 

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the people inside of 
Consecration Academy, I first 

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had to start with renewing my 
mind. 

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I had a lot of things that I 
didn't believe that are 

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biblically true and sound. 
And I won't go into all of the 

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things because they're kind of 
controversial, but there was so 

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many things that I had to come 
out of agreement with. 

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Well, how do you come out of 
agreement with something? 

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So our bodies are designed to 
create new neural pathways as we

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think. 
I like to call them, AKA 

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strongholds, right? 
Like science. 

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We're going to go into the 
science realm. 

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These are strongholds. 
So strongholds are behaviors and

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thoughts that you have that try 
to exalt itself over the 

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knowledge of God. 
So when someone has a 

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stronghold, let's say that I 
believe, I'm going to use this 

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as an example. 
I do not believe this, by the 

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way, let's say that I believe 
I'm ugly. 

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OK, so I believe that I'm ugly. 
What does that mean? 

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Well, if I have a business, let 
me tell you exactly how that 

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plays out in the business world.
If I think I'm ugly, I'm not 

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going to show up on camera. 
If I don't show up on camera, 

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I'm not creating content. 
If I'm not creating content, I'm

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not bringing sales into my 
business. 

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If I'm not bringing sales into 
the business that God called me 

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to create, then I am failing God
on some level. 

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Granted, we can't fail God, but 
like you get it, right? 

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Like he, he gave you the 
business. 

447
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,560
I'm not doing what I'm supposed 
to be doing. 

448
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,120
And so it starts with breaking 
that stronghold. 

449
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,000
Well, how do we break that 
stronghold? 

450
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,080
We read the Bible. 
The more we read the Bible, the 

451
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,080
more we sit in his presence is 
the more that that stronghold is

452
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,880
going to be broken. 
Now here's how it works 

453
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,400
scientifically. 
Every night when we sleep, our 

454
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,920
bodies go into a state of called
run sleep, which is R.E.M., 

455
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,600
which is rapid eye movement 
sleep. 

456
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,560
When our bodies are in that 
state of sleep, it allows new 

457
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,480
neuro pathways to be developed. 
So let's go back to the example 

458
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,800
of I think I'm ugly, which I 
don't in the name of Jesus, I 

459
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,680
don't believe that because God 
made me and I'm beautiful in 

460
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,800
God's eyes. 
So if I have this thought, your 

461
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,440
thoughts are created by neuro 
pathways. 

462
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,720
These are signals that tell your
brain how you feel. 

463
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,080
So if I have this thought like, 
OK, I am ugly and I'm sending 

464
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,560
that out constantly. 
I'm refusing to do things 

465
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800
because I'm trying to avoid 
public appearance. 

466
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,960
I'm trying to avoid all these 
things. 

467
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,120
I'm constantly thinking, making 
that thought, then that is a 

468
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,680
neuro pathway that's being 
developed. 

469
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,200
Now let's say I read the Bible 
and the Bible says that I'm 

470
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,160
fearfully and wonderfully 
created in God's image. 

471
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,720
OK, so now I'm starting to break
that stronghold. 

472
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,080
I'm reading the Bible. 
The more that I come into 

473
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,040
agreement with that Bible verse 
is, the more that the stronghold

474
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,720
that says I'm ugly actually has 
to die. 

475
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,440
And that's exactly what happens 
in our bodies. 

476
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,080
That neuro pathway, as you 
sleep, as you go into REM sleep,

477
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,440
the stronger neural pathway, the
one that's filled with truth, 

478
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,640
which is how God designed our 
bodies to be, actually kills the

479
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,160
other one. 
It takes its place. 

480
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,640
Two thoughts that are opposite 
of each other actually cannot 

481
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,240
exist in your brain at the same 
time. 

482
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,880
So one has to die. 
And so the one that is going to 

483
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,240
die is usually the one that you 
no longer come into agreement 

484
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,720
with. 
So as it's dying in the other 

485
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,920
agreement, the agreement of wow,
I'm fearfully and wonderfully 

486
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,320
created, starts taking place. 
So then I'm healing. 

487
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,240
That's a form of healing that is
taking place as we sleep. 

488
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,520
God does that. 
We don't do that. 

489
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,840
I don't even know how that 
works, but like God does it. 

490
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,440
And then that's happening. 
And then we wake up maybe five 

491
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,080
days later or 20 days later. 
Because it takes time for old 

492
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,960
patterns to die, right? 
I think they say it actually 

493
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,200
takes 21 days for you to fully 
come into a new pattern of 

494
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,720
belief and you thought process, 
scientifically speaking. 

495
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,760
And so let's say I've been 
telling myself for 21 days, OK, 

496
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,520
I'm fearfully, wonderfully 
created in God's image. 

497
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,600
So old New York pathway is dead 
by day 22. 

498
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,600
I wake up. 
Guess what's going to happen? 

499
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,800
A new boldness is going to come 
over me because I believe that 

500
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,720
I'm fearfully and wonderfully 
created in God's image. 

501
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Where did I get that from 
reading my Bible, from 

502
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,040
meditating on the word of God 
and not meditating in the sense 

503
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,520
of woo woo. 
The Bible actually tells us to 

504
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,120
meditate on Scripture, right? 
Write it on our hearts. 

505
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,960
Well, how do we do that? 
We sit with it, we soak in it, 

506
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,000
we allow it to change our 
thought processes and then we 

507
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,000
move forward from there. 
So that is a form of changing 

508
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,160
and healing God's way. 
It is through Romans 12/2 

509
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,320
allowing God to change our 
thoughts. 

510
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,880
When we change our thoughts, it 
changes our hearts. 

511
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,640
As we change our heart changes 
our actions. 

512
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,880
The second thing that I will say
is I very much believe in 

513
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,960
deliverance. 
I believe that sometimes the 

514
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,840
strongholds need to be casted 
out. 

515
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,800
They are demons, as radical as 
that sounds. 

516
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,320
It is just truth. 
I have seen it time and time and

517
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,320
time again and one thing I do 
inside of Consecration Academy. 

518
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,040
So I am a very much prophetic 
business coach. 

519
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,240
I stand in the realm of the 
prophetic gifting that God has 

520
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,360
given me. 
It's not my gift. 

521
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,960
I cannot operate it on my own. 
I can only operate it with His 

522
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,200
calling. 
We do deliverance inside of 

523
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,320
Consecration Academy. 
In fact, we did. 

524
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,080
We did deliverance just I think 
those last week where I had 

525
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,800
three of my clients on a group 
coaching call tell me that they 

526
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,840
cannot do something. 
They believed in their heart 

527
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,520
even though they knew that they 
could. 

528
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,520
They believed in their hearts 
that they could not do 

529
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,960
something. 
So I said, you know what? 

530
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600
God gave me insight that these 
were demons, that these were not

531
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,160
just regular strongholds. 
So I don't believe in just doing

532
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,480
deliverance, just to do 
deliverance. 

533
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,720
Like it has to be Holy Spirit 
LED. 

534
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,120
We're casting out devils and 
demons. 

535
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:29,360
It has to be on God's accord. 
So I said, OK, we're going to go

536
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,880
through deliverance right now on
this group coaching call. 

537
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,160
We're going through deliverance 
right now. 

538
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,080
We're, we are, you are not 
waking up tomorrow with any 

539
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,000
demons that are telling you that
you cannot do something attached

540
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,320
to you. 
I, I had three clients that 

541
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,800
believe that they could not 
create content. 

542
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,920
They could not put themselves 
out there, that they just had 

543
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,960
all this like it was like a 
covering almost of like they're 

544
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,560
not worthy, they're not good 
enough. 

545
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,200
They're not. 
And those are all lies from the 

546
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,240
pits of hell. 
And So what we really focused on

547
00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:01,360
on was canceling them out in 
Jesus name, calling out those 

548
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,280
demons. 
Spirit of intimidation has to 

549
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,280
leave now in the name of Jesus. 
And as I did that normally 

550
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,640
sometimes when a casting out 
double S and demons, it takes 

551
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,120
like a day or two before you see
a change. 

552
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:15,480
But for these three clients, I'm
going to tell you how God worked

553
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,400
supernaturally in my program 
last week. 

554
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,600
I watched these women go from 
shy and timid and like just 

555
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,400
intimidated to like show up 
online to directly after that 

556
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,640
call because what I prayed for 
after we casted everything else,

557
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,080
I prayed that the Holy Spirit 
level of boldness will fall 

558
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,440
fresh on them. 
As soon as we got off the call, 

559
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,680
one of the girls went live on 
TikTok and I haven't and she 

560
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,360
hasn't done that in a long time 
because she's felt like she 

561
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,960
can't. 
Another girl started posting 

562
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,840
content and she has not stopped.
She's been posting on it every 

563
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,720
single actually. 
The other two, all of them 

564
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,920
actually have been posting 
content every single day since 

565
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,200
then. 
They have been so excited to 

566
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,040
wake up and create content and 
not from a standpoint of, OK, I 

567
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,800
know what I'm going to post 
today, but from a standpoint of 

568
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,760
Jesus, will you walk alongside 
me and help me create content 

569
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,720
today? 
What do you want me to post on 

570
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,080
the Internet today? 
Because I know that the Bible 

571
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,800
tells us that a man will give an
account for every idle word that

572
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,680
is spoken. 
So I don't want to speak idly in

573
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,800
my content. 
What do you want me to talk 

574
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,760
about? 
And allowing him to guide you 

575
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,640
that morning, that day, and then
you creating content based off 

576
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,160
of what you hear from the Holy 
Spirit. 

577
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:23,440
So those are like the two ways I
believe in, like breaking free 

578
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,720
from strongholds. 
I'm not against. 

579
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,800
I'm pretty pro deliverance, 
pretty pro casting out devils 

580
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,160
and demons, and I'm standing in 
your authority that Christ has 

581
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,800
given you. 
That's why I was attracted to 

582
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,480
you apparently, because I'm 
right there with your friend and

583
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,960
what you do is what I do, except
for I'm not focused just on 

584
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,240
helping women to build 
businesses and make money. 

585
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,520
Which also, if you're listening 
to this, I know we didn't say 

586
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,240
this at the beginning and you're
listening to this thinking, but 

587
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,840
I don't want to necessarily 
start a business. 

588
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,920
I just want to write a book. 
This is for you too. 

589
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,960
Because, well, you know, being 
an author, ultimately that is a 

590
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,000
business as well because you got
to learn to market it. 

591
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,200
You got to learn to sell it. 
And these are the things that 

592
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,120
Sienna works with women on. 
And it's very important to deal 

593
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,200
with the underlying stuff first 
in order to be able to move 

594
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,920
forward freely. 
And that's what I love right 

595
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,840
there with you. 
I mean, I get everything you're 

596
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,440
saying is exactly the process 
that I walk women through to 

597
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,640
break those limiting beliefs and
barriers. 

598
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Limiting beliefs is another word
for stronghold. 

599
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,160
So the exact thing that we need.
And there was a time, Sienna, 

600
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,800
when I remember starting my 
business and I was doing it the 

601
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,840
world's way. 
I was trying to do everything 

602
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,520
that everyone told me to do but 
the one and it was very loud and

603
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320
it still is very loud. 
And and it's like the 

604
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,920
distractions are immense and 
everybody is screaming at you on

605
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,280
the Internet. 
If you're trying to build 

606
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,560
online, at least to do it this 
way and only this way. 

607
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160
And if you don't do it my way, 
then you're going to fail. 

608
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,080
And it's like it's just and, and
I kept fighting that internally 

609
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,000
knowing that this is not God's 
way. 

610
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,440
But I remember one night when I 
was sitting at this desk, I had 

611
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,640
a different desk, but sitting 
right, you know, in this area 

612
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,200
here where I am right now today 
in my office. 

613
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,840
And I was working on something, 
probably a master class or 

614
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,240
something that I was going to be
doing next. 

615
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,520
And I was up super late because 
my little guy, you know, I just 

616
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,960
want to spend time with him 
during the day. 

617
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,640
He was still home. 
He wasn't in school yet. 

618
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,560
And this was probably 2022 going
into 2023. 

619
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,320
And I was already so burned out.
I was so frustrated. 

620
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,760
I was like ready to hide and say
like, I I quit, I'm done. 

621
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,200
I'm going to go get a job now. 
I'm going to just work at a gas 

622
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,720
station. 
I can't keep doing this. 

623
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,720
This is so rough, right? 
Like I was just telling myself 

624
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,200
these things and I was up like 
pushing through, like I must do 

625
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,440
this. 
It was like this driving force 

626
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,080
internally that was beyond a 
calling. 

627
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,240
It was it was not healthy. 
It was very demonic, which I 

628
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,360
didn't realize at the time. 
Obviously, you know, I think I 

629
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,640
did on some level because I, I 
also like you, you know, operate

630
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,880
in the prophetic and I'm very 
spiritually sensitive. 

631
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,040
Well, this day in the middle of 
the night, whatever time it was,

632
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,920
maybe one 2:00 in the morning, I
felt, and this may freak some 

633
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,080
people out here right now, but I
felt some presence behind me. 

634
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,000
And there was, I saw an image of
what it was. 

635
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,600
I can't describe it, nor will I.
I mean, I can see it, but I'm 

636
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,280
not going to describe it. 
But they're the talons, so to 

637
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,040
speak, were they were sort of 
claws, sort of talents were 

638
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,320
shoved into my back from behind.
And it was like, I heard this 

639
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,680
voice, not audibly, but it was 
just like a knowing that I have 

640
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,640
you right where I want you and 
you're not going anywhere. 

641
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,680
And I'm like, Oh yes, I am. 
And I shut the computer down. 

642
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,840
I cast that thing out in the 
name of Jesus. 

643
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,600
And I walked down my stairs and 
I went to bed. 

644
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,800
And that was the end of the 
striving. 

645
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,720
I was like, I'm done. 
I am absolutely done. 

646
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880
Either God, you're going to show
up and tell me how to do this 

647
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,720
your way, or I mean, I'm done. 
And it was definitely legit 

648
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,640
serious stuff that I had to go 
through. 

649
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,960
Still. 
I'm going through, I mean, in 

650
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920
the middle of currently as we 
speak, going through. 

651
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,640
So I really love your story. 
It's encouraging and your 

652
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,520
advice. 
You're empowering other women to

653
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,440
do these things, to really lead 
the life that God has called 

654
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,640
them to lead. 
Because ultimately it's not 

655
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,600
about us. 
It's about the ones that are 

656
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,840
waiting on us to show up with a 
renewed mind because the only 

657
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,200
way to transformation according 
to the word is Romans 12/2. 

658
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,720
And that is to be transformed. 
And that's why mind renewal is 

659
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,600
so powerful in our lives in 
general. 

660
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,720
But the healing, I also loved 
what you said. 

661
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,960
The healing doesn't come from 
just certain mantras or or 

662
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,160
things like that. 
It comes from the word like the 

663
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,000
truth has to replace the lie. 
And that is very, very 

664
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,120
important. 
If you didn't get that, please 

665
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,600
do get that. 
And I'm going to encourage you 

666
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,040
right now for those who are 
listening, if you're not 

667
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520
driving, I, I listen to podcasts
a lot while I'm driving. 

668
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,840
So hey, if you can maybe even go
back and do this later. 

669
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,200
If you can't do it right now, I 
would encourage you to write 

670
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080
down some of the lies that have 
been coming up, some of those 

671
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,680
thoughts that have been coming 
up as Sienna has been sharing 

672
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,520
with us. 
Write them down, even if it's 

673
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,200
just one, but write all of them 
that came to mind that you 

674
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,160
possibly can down on a piece of 
paper with a pen. 

675
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,240
And then I would encourage you 
to go to the Lord in prayer and 

676
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,920
say, God, this is what I say 
about me, or this is what so and

677
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,840
so says about me. 
But what do you say about me? 

678
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,760
And let Him just tell you, 
because He can give you a now 

679
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,640
word as well, but He will lead 
you the scripture. 

680
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000
He will give you a now word. 
He will give you a remembrance 

681
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440
of whatever it is, you know, so 
that you can truly hold on to 

682
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,160
that and replace the, the lie 
with his truth above all, which 

683
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,920
is to read the word. 
And I love that you said that 

684
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,800
too, because, Sienna, there's a 
lot of Christians walking around

685
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480
in this world. 
They wear the Christian title, 

686
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,720
badge, whatever you want to call
it, but they don't even have a 

687
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,960
clue what any of the Bible says.
I've quoted Scripture to people 

688
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,440
before that I'm like, this is a 
prescription for your healing 

689
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,000
here. 
This scripture is a 

690
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,160
prescription. 
And they're like, what, Where's 

691
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,120
that? 
I've never heard that. 

692
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,520
And I'm like, what? 
I thought that was the most 

693
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680
basic, like Sunday school 
version. 

694
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,320
Yeah, there's just, you're 
right. 

695
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800
I think there's way too many 
Christians that are not reading 

696
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,400
their Bible. 
And we got to get like your oil 

697
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,560
is running out like you, you are
like the five virgins in Matthew

698
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,880
25. 
If you're not reading your 

699
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,000
Bible, this there's no 
condemnation by the way, because

700
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,400
the Bible says in Romans 81. 
Therefore now there's no 

701
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,600
condemnation in those who trust 
Christ Jesus, right? 

702
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,640
And I read from the NLT version 
of the Bible. 

703
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,880
So if you're trying to like find
what I'm reading, but in that 

704
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,560
our oil is running out, the time
is running out on this earth. 

705
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,520
I don't know if we're paying 
attention to all of the events 

706
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,560
that are happening in the world,
but I'm very sensitive to them. 

707
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,240
I don't allow them to impact me 
negatively, but I'm I feel them 

708
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,200
And Jesus is coming back and he 
is coming back for a spotless 

709
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,760
bride. 
And this is not to put pressure 

710
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,600
on anyone into going the demonic
route or the self like righteous

711
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,960
route of, oh, I got to read my 
Bible. 

712
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,159
I got to pray. 
It's not about religion. 

713
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,159
It is not about checking off a 
box. 

714
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,960
You are not supposed to be 
reading your Bible just to say I

715
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,199
read my Bible today for you. 
Do you want a cookie? 

716
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,400
Like right. 
It's more of like, it's more of 

717
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,480
like, I, Jesus, where do you 
want me to read today? 

718
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,760
What do you want to teach me 
today? 

719
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,440
How can I get into your presence
today? 

720
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,159
Because that Trump's OK, I read 
my Bible, blah, blah, blah, I'm 

721
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,639
gone, right? 
There has to be that renewing of

722
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,360
mine that takes place. 
And that's not happening with 

723
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,159
your no offense to anyone who's 
doing the one year Jesus plan. 

724
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,360
I love it, but I hate it all the
same time because there's no 

725
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,800
room for Holy Spirit to say, 
Hey, I really want you somewhere

726
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,760
else. 
There just isn't like you have 

727
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,040
that one year plan and it's 
like, OK, I'm going to read this

728
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,880
today and you've read it and 
great. 

729
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,960
But the Bible is not a is not a 
book like any other book. 

730
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,760
It's supposed to transform you. 
It's supposed to renew you. 

731
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,520
It's supposed to empower you, 
it's supposed to convict you, 

732
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,520
it's supposed to help you grow 
and we cannot do those things if

733
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,320
we're just reading just to read 
right, that that defeats the 

734
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
entire purpose of the Bible. 
It's not a regular book. 

735
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,080
So we got to get into a posture 
before the Lord with fear and 

736
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,280
trembling of like, OK, God, I 
love you. 

737
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,760
And by the way, fear, if we look
at the context of the word fear,

738
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,040
like fear the Lord have fearing 
of the Lord. 

739
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,680
It really, really means to know,
oh, God so deeply that you love 

740
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,320
him and you just, you're just 
like, OK, I, I love you so much,

741
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,320
Lord. 
I don't even want to look at 

742
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,960
sin. 
I don't even want to think about

743
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,960
sin because I love the Lord. 
I'm like excited about the Lord.

744
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,840
It's not fear, like scared of 
God. 

745
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,240
It's more of like, OK, I love 
you so much. 

746
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,280
I want to do what's right. 
And so we got to get into a 

747
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,200
place where we're, we're, we're 
worshiping God, where we're 

748
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,040
spending time in his presence. 
And that's why I love, I love 

749
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,760
what I get to do. 
I love that God called me into 

750
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,640
this room because my favorite 
thing to do is just spend time 

751
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,080
with Holy Spirit, just spend 
time with the Lord. 

752
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,760
And as I do that, I'm realizing 
thought patterns are dying 

753
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,200
anyway because I'm, I'm spending
time with him, like I'm 

754
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,840
worshipping him. 
I'm, I'm praying, I'm going to 

755
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,120
war for my clients. 
I'm very, very, I'm a, I'm a 

756
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,760
corporate intercessor. 
So I pray over all of my clients

757
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,040
heavily every single day, right?
And so I come to war. 

758
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,640
I go against demons on a daily 
basis for my clients. 

759
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,240
I I go to the courts of heaven 
for them, which is a whole 

760
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:32,880
nother. 
Episode. 

761
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,200
I know, I know. 
I'm glad you said that. 

762
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,960
So yeah, we definitely are 
besties now. 

763
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,960
All the things right? 
And so these things are 

764
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,800
important. 
And so anyway, just getting back

765
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200
on topic. 
We got to read our Bibles. 

766
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,480
We got to get into the presence 
of the Lord from a standpoint of

767
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,160
not religion, checking off a 
box. 

768
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,040
I went to church on Sunday. 
Good for you. 

769
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,080
What did you get out of it? 
How did it transform real life? 

770
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,840
Like where is your relationship 
with Jesus? 

771
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Because it's in that 
relationship with Jesus that 

772
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,280
strongholds have to break 
anyway. 

773
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,400
That the, the wholeness that you
desire, the, the mom that you 

774
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
want to be, the wife that you 
want to be, the business owner 

775
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,920
that you want to be comes from 
sitting at his feet. 

776
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,880
And if we're not sitting at his 
feet, that's why we are where we

777
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,080
are today. 
And I just, it just, it's true 

778
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,040
and it's, it's unfortunate, it's
true. 

779
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,840
It's not to condemn you, it's 
not to make you feel judged, but

780
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,120
it's to make you aware of, OK, 
hold on. 

781
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,960
I need to put in more effort 
into my relationship with Jesus.

782
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,360
Wow that's really good I hope 
you all got that. 

783
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,040
Reading your Bible isn't so you 
can just check it off and say I 

784
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,880
did it today for a religious 
reason. 

785
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,040
It's to transform you. 
If it didn't change you, then it

786
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,560
was a useless waste of time, so 
to speak. 

787
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,680
Not really. 
I really don't believe that it 

788
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,960
was really a useless waste of 
time. 

789
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Let me just retract that because
really, honestly, I think that 

790
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,080
the word pierces even we don't 
recognize it. 

791
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,000
So I totally retract that 
statement because that's not 

792
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,480
true. 
I mean, but what I what I mean 

793
00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:00,600
is if you want it to work for 
you immediately go go at it with

794
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,920
the heart posture of 
relationship and transformation 

795
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,400
and a now word versus reading it
like a book. 

796
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,800
OK, now that I've said that I 
feel better because that was not

797
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,320
the right thing to say because 
that's not true. 

798
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,080
I remember reading my Bible and 
having no idea what I was 

799
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,840
reading be like this is not 
quote UN quote working, but it 

800
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,200
always is working because it's 
alive and it was doing things. 

801
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,200
I was just unaware of that and 
also started praying that God 

802
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,000
would give me a desire for the 
word. 

803
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,680
And that's when I, I started to 
begin to get the the hunger and 

804
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,800
the desire and my eyes began to 
open in a way, the word really 

805
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,840
did come to life, like jump off 
the pages come to life. 

806
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,880
And I love that you shared that.
The other day I had a really 

807
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,280
scary encounter. 
A man came and approached my son

808
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,840
and I at a park and began 
harassing us verbally and even 

809
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,960
got to try to be physical. 
Thankfully it didn't get really 

810
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,120
escalate to that, but he lunged 
at us and it was just really, it

811
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,880
was a scary ordeal. 
And and the word intimidation 

812
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,160
that you used earlier was I 
wrote this down because I was 

813
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,120
just talking to my husband about
it last night about 

814
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480
intimidation. 
And I'm like, I think I sense 

815
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040
the spirit of intimidation in 
this. 

816
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,280
And you know, it was a familiar 
spirit. 

817
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,840
That's why, why I recognized it.
And I was like, oh, no, I don't 

818
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,160
think so. 
No. 

819
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,200
So that night, Sunday, I was 
really shook up and I just said,

820
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,880
I can't sleep. 
My mind just kept replaying what

821
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,760
that man's face look like and 
his words were just awful and 

822
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,800
all these things. 
And so in order to not let the 

823
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,440
words penetrate my soul, I said,
I'm going to just read the word.

824
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,560
My husband was in the shower and
I was just alone in the bedroom 

825
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,080
and I grabbed my Bible next to 
my bed stand, opened it up to 

826
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,920
whatever the first thing is that
opened. 

827
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,280
It was Nehemiah. 
And I was like, OK, all right, 

828
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,040
here I am and Nehemiah and there
Nehemiah has been like my book 

829
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,960
for like the last year, but I 
didn't realize I was going to 

830
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,040
open it to Nehemiah. 
And right, my eyes went directly

831
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,080
to a scripture and it says 
something along the lines of 

832
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,360
basically, now I'm paraphrasing 
this and I'm going to get it 

833
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,560
wrong some somehow, but it was 
in Nehemiah where it says now 

834
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,360
God has revealed the plan of the
enemy. 

835
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,120
It's time to get back to work on
the wall. 

836
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:15,520
So God is saying in in our lives
in the nation right now, all the

837
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,480
things right now, whatever the 
enemy is trying to do, God is 

838
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,280
revealing the plan to you. 
Not so you can be afraid, not so

839
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,240
you can shrink back so that 
you're aware and you can get 

840
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:28,000
back to work. 
Hey, he's, he's going to be, you

841
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,600
know, doing. 
His thing to continue, you know,

842
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,480
trying to thwart the plans of 
God, but it's not going to work.

843
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,320
So now we know what the plan of 
the enemy is in our lives. 

844
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,880
And then even look at what 
happened this past week to 

845
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,960
Charlie Kirk. 
What happened to him. 

846
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,360
That enemy meant for evil. 
God turned it for good. 

847
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,480
Because you see the rising up, 
you see the revival, you see the

848
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,800
voices now you see the turning 
point ministry that is now being

849
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,240
started on all sorts of 
different campuses. 

850
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,480
So where one man's voice was 
only able to go where one man 

851
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,640
can go now, his life created 
this wave of impact that just 

852
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,960
ripples far beyond what he could
have ever done on his own. 

853
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,520
You know what, as one man 
living, And I just think it's 

854
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,600
very important to remember to 
get back to work on the wall. 

855
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,080
The walls been destroyed, but 
there is work to do. 

856
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,440
Don't listen to the pestering 
voice of the enemy saying like 

857
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:24,000
distraction saying intimidation,
saying less than all those 

858
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,280
things. 
So I appreciate you bringing 

859
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,080
that up so much. 
If you could leave every woman 

860
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,440
listening with one encouragement
today or scripture about 

861
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,280
stepping into wholeness and 
leading authentically from where

862
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,360
they are called to lead, not 
sprinkling in Jesus, but like 

863
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,640
whatever it is that they are 
called to do, what would you 

864
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,640
share with them today? 
I would say Colossians 312 

865
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,040
through 14 because it says in 
the NLT version of the Bible 

866
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,960
says since God chose you to be 
the holy people he loves, you 

867
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,600
must clothe yourself with tender
hearted mercy, kindness, 

868
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000
humility, gentleness, and 
patience. 

869
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,120
Above all, clothe yourself with 
love, which binds us all 

870
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,360
together in perfect harmony. 
And that really just encompasses

871
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,800
wholeness in Christ leads to 
authentic loving leadership when

872
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,240
we just allow ourselves to 
surrender. 

873
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:20,240
And so the one statement I will 
say next is just, you know, 

874
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,600
really lean in to his love. 
Really just lean into 

875
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,280
relationship with him, right? 
This is a marriage between you 

876
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,360
and Christ. 
Lean into that. 

877
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,040
A marriage can't work if he's 
the only one talking. 

878
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,520
You have to be willing to talk. 
You have to be willing to put in

879
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,800
work. 
You have to be willing to 

880
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,640
communicate. 
And so really just lean into 

881
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,880
that marriage because on the 
other side is a God who loves 

882
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:48,240
you so deeply, who loves you so 
profoundly that he sent his only

883
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,400
Son down on this earth to die 
for you. 

884
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,480
And it's through Jesus's death 
and resurrection that we are 

885
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,760
made whole. 
It's through that that we are 

886
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,240
made whole and healed. 
And so lean into that. 

887
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,960
If you are looking for wholeness
in your life so that you can 

888
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,560
show up as a better mom, wife, 
whatever a business owner, then 

889
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,320
lean into his love because it's 
there and it's free. 

890
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,080
It's free, It doesn't cost you 
anything unlike Satans Kingdom. 

891
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,560
Yeah, it is for freedom that 
Christ set us free. 

892
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,480
That's why I chose the same 
freed to lead because it is only

893
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,120
for freedom that Christ set us 
free. 

894
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,840
And I love that you keep going 
back to love. 

895
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,240
So I hope that y'all got that 
too. 

896
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,880
She's talking about love, love, 
love. 

897
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,520
And that is the centerpiece of 
all of this. 

898
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,680
And sometimes, oftentimes 
actually, it's the hardest for 

899
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,600
some reason for us to really 
truly grasp, like you said 

900
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,000
earlier about old patience, you 
know, patience is a big one, but

901
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,480
love, love is the beginning. 
And we always go to patience. 

902
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,840
Like I need the fruit of the 
Spirit, patience, but you really

903
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,560
need love. 
Yeah, you need to know how I am 

904
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,040
very much convinced that more 
people would stop sinning the 

905
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,560
more they realize the Father's 
love for them, because it's his 

906
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,800
love that triumphs everything, 
right? 

907
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,200
Love cult. 
What does the Bible say? 

908
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,880
Love covers and multitude of 
sins. 

909
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,560
How does it do that? 
By knowing his love. 

910
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,480
I think we, we think that God, 
some people, you know, view God 

911
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,720
is like this God that's looking 
to smite you down. 

912
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,840
But that's not that's not who he
is. 

913
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,200
No, absolutely not. 
I have so enjoyed our 

914
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,240
conversation today. 
For those ladies who are 

915
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,160
listening, how can they connect 
with you? 

916
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,080
Because I know we could talk 
about this all day, but I have 

917
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:35,520
another meeting so. 
Yes, so I am on YouTube at 

918
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,160
Sienna Kopishki. 
I'm also on TikTok at Sienna 

919
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,520
Kopishki and I'm on Instagram. 
I have two Instagram accounts, 

920
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,840
one for my business, which is 
Consecration Academy and then I 

921
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,920
have a podcast called The 
Christian Business Podcast. 

922
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,000
So that is all the places that 
I'm available. 

923
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,080
Awesome, and I'll put all the 
links to that in the show notes 

924
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,640
for y'all to be able to access 
her easily and quickly. 

925
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,400
Thank you Sienna for being here 
today, for sharing your heart, 

926
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960
for your just your fire, for the
Lord. 

927
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,760
It is so, so beautiful. 
It is an incredibly needed thing

928
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,400
right now and I'm so thankful 
for your leadership and what it 

929
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,120
is that you're doing for the 
Kingdom of heaven and helping 

930
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,280
the women that God has placed in
your life right now and your 

931
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,600
family. 
So friend, if you have enjoyed 

932
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,960
today's episode, I would love it
if you would take just a second 

933
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,320
and rate and review the show and
share it with a friend who you 

934
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,280
know can use this too. 
And until next time, remember to

935
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,040
lead from wholeness begins with 
receiving love from the Father. 

936
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,320
We'll see you here on the next 
one.

