1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,680 Where God is enlarging the capacity of these homeschool 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,840 moms, these stay at home moms who have been home with their 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,640 children. And the Lord is like, OK, but 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,240 you have something else on your heart. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 And so I'm not taking away your time from your family. 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,040 I'm actually increasing it and I'm enlarging that capacity 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,080 without sacrificing your family time. 8 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:19,440 God's play something on your heart. 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,680 You don't have to pick either or you don't have to pick staying 10 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,080 home or moving into the marketplace. 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,640 You can do both. Hey friend, welcome to the Free 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,760 to Lead podcast. This is the space for high 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,400 achieving, faith filled women who feel stuck, worn down or 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,960 quietly wondering if they're really cut out for the thing 15 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,960 God's called them to build. If you've been carrying the 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,920 weight of pressure, perfectionism, people pleasing 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,080 and trying to figure it all out by yourself, you're so in the 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,720 right place. I'm your host, Catherine May, a 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,440 transformational life coach who believes in the power of dealing 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,000 with our unruly thought life and the emotional baggage we've been 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,480 too busy or too scared to unpack. 22 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:03,080 Here we talk about what it means to be whole, healed, and healthy 23 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,880 from the inside out. Because you don't need another 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,440 productivity hack. You need freedom. 25 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,760 You need mindset shifts and soul healing and a deeper trust in 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,800 the One who called you. So if you're ready to drop the 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,760 weight spiritually, mentally, and emotionally and lead from a 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,800 place of peace and confidence, let's get into it. 29 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,520 Today I'm joined by Kelly Campbell, author of Deborah and 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,960 the Motherly Anointing, and a coach who helps stay at home and 31 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:34,000 homeschool moms discover what God is calling them to do and to 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,600 take the bold steps into it with confidence. 33 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,960 Kelly knows what it's like to battle rejection, fear of man, 34 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:43,360 and even a victim mindset, but she did not stay there. 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,280 This is key. She took those hard steps to 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,320 break free from what was holding her back. 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,960 And through that journey of healing, surrender and 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,360 obedience, she found freedom, her identity and purpose. 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,200 And now she's helping other women to do the same. 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,120 So Kelly, thank you so much for being here today. 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Thank you for having me. I'm excited to share. 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Yes, it's going to be so fun. So Kelly, I want to talk about 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,400 what we talk about here on the show is that overcoming and 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,880 breaking free so that we can lead the life that we were 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,880 intended to lead in the first place. 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,520 So I want to talk about what you had to overcome in order to 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,200 break free. So could you just take us back? 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,800 What are the key things that you had to overcome in order to 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,840 break free and begin walking in your own calling, doing what you 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,680 do right now? Do we have time right? 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,600 I mean, the Lord did so much in my life because I had so much 52 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:40,720 that I just didn't realize I needed to surrender. 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,520 I went through a season of just feeling, but just feeling 54 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,000 broken, like my identity was shaken. 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,520 I was lost. I had that victim orphan 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,240 mentality. That is the season I went 57 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,800 through was just feeling like an orphan, but I, I didn't know 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,800 exactly that that's what it was at the time. 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,840 I just, you know, we had a series of unfortunate events 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,160 happen in mine and my husband's life. 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,200 And so it just seemed like every time we turned around, something 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,320 was going on, whether it was a lost job, even a lost pregnancy, 63 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,920 it just seemed like we were in this pit and we couldn't come 64 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:17,800 out of it. It was just a hard season. 65 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,320 And I share a lot of that on my channel on my own journey. 66 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,480 But in that I realized that my mindset was such a victim 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,280 mentality. I felt like, well, it's just 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,840 going to happen to us. Whatever bad could happen was 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,160 just going to happen. And I began to allow my external 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,680 circumstances to identify me, you know, And I remember what in 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,600 this one season of my life, I went to one of my friends and I 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,760 said, when you look at me, do I look like I'm a depressed 73 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,640 person? Do I look broken? 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Do I look like a victim? Do I come across that way? 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,760 Because I felt like it was just who I was at that point in my 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,160 life. And it wasn't until a few years 77 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,400 ago that the Lord was like, Kelly, it's time to start 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,440 peeling these onions. It's time to start taking these 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:13,800 layers of insecurity, of bitterness, of criticism, of 80 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,600 feeling rejected, and it's time for you to start putting on the 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,480 mantle of daughterhood or sonship. 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,480 You know, we're daughters, but the Lord talks about sonship, 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,280 but it's the same principle. And so I was like, OK, it's one 84 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:31,200 thing to say I need to get rid of the orphan mentality and it's 85 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,120 another thing to go, but how like, how do you just go from 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,280 this is who you are, you are ready. 87 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:43,240 Your default thinking is whatever could go wrong is going 88 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,280 to go wrong. Lord, where are you? 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Your default thinking is God, are you mad at us? 90 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,160 Did we do something wrong? Is there some kind of sin in our 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,760 life? Your default thinking is don't 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,800 try anything because it's going to fail. 93 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,400 You know how do you go from that default thinking of you're not 94 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,800 good enough and the blessings are for meant for somebody else 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,240 and not for you? How do you walk that out into 96 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,520 freedom? And so I, I was so intentional 97 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,920 in that season to lay before the Lord in my closet early in the 98 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,200 morning before anybody was up. And I'm talking about 5/30, 6:00 99 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,120 in the morning and just saying, Lord, I don't know what that 100 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,480 looks like. I've been a believer my entire 101 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,000 life. I've been a Christian my entire 102 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,080 life. I gave my life to the Lord at 11 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,880 years old. So here I was in my 30s and I'm 104 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,160 still not understanding how to walk in freedom. 105 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,760 But I was just like, Lord, I'm giving this to you. 106 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,440 I don't want this anymore. I am choosing to reject the 107 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,960 label that whether I put on myself, whether my circumstances 108 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,880 put on me or whether just the enemy. 109 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,120 So during that time, what started was I kept decreeing 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,800 that I was a daughter of God. And like we talk about that, we 111 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,120 talk about knowing the Father's love, but unless you have a 112 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,400 revelation and then it's just surface. 113 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,880 And so in that time of my closet, I just was like, God, 114 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,120 I'm, I'm your daughter above all else, I'm your daughter. 115 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,760 And the Lord began to show me things. 116 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:18,680 And one of the things that I had to do was to repent for coming 117 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,400 into agreement with a lie. I was believing that I was 118 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,640 something other than just the daughter of God. 119 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,560 And one of the things that he delivered me from was I, I say 120 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,960 it just like this chronic complaint. 121 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,200 I chronically complained about things and I didn't even know 122 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,240 it. I didn't even know I was really 123 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,600 complaining. I thought I was just stating 124 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,800 fact, you know, like this is the way it was. 125 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,200 And the Lord was like, no, you complain because you've got to 126 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,480 the point where you want people's pity or empathy or 127 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,400 something like that, and you have got to stop talking about 128 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,840 it in a negative context because what it's doing is just stirring 129 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:02,760 the pot. It's just keeping it 130 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,480 circulating. And so once all of that just 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,880 falls to the bottom, you're going to be able to get out the 132 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,360 good liquid. And if I can use a metaphor, you 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,200 know, if you think about like a water bottle, you put something 134 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,640 in it, you stir it up, you keep stirring it, you keep stirring 135 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,040 it and everything, not even realizing that you're doing it. 136 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,800 Nothing is ever going to settle for you to pour out the clean 137 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,120 water. And it was the same thing. 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,600 I just kept stirring it up. I kept stirring that feeling of 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,760 rejection and that feeling of bitterness and criticism and 140 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,360 that that victim mentality. Yes. 141 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,440 But here's the thing, the Lord was so faithful in that season 142 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,720 of my life that are there Times Now that the victim mentality 143 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,360 tries to come on? Absolutely. 144 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,040 I'm not saying that it's like a one and done thing. 145 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,040 You may find yourself like getting free from something and 146 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,520 then years later it tries to come back. 147 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,560 But here's the thing, you've already overcome it, so the Lord 148 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,440 is already giving you tools to overcome it again. 149 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Yeah, yeah, that's so good. And I think that we can get 150 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,640 stuck there sometimes with that. It's like that cycle or pattern 151 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,480 going back and forth from, you know, it could be even like, OK, 152 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,840 I lost 20 lbs, I gained 25, I lost 15, I gained 30. 153 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Whatever it looks like where I've, you know, overcome this 154 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,320 mentality and now I'm over here complaining again. 155 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,960 What is this? It's like that is so ingrained 156 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,720 in us because we are programmed a certain way. 157 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,960 And in order to flip the script on that program, like what 158 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,679 you're saying, it's incredible. What you're saying is so, I 159 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,840 mean, this is this seems like kindergarten, but it's not. 160 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,039 I mean, this is high level, you know, getting your master's 161 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:48,800 degree here in transformation, but it's that changing your your 162 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:54,320 programming isn't A1 and done. It's repetition you have to 163 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,480 repeat. And you said that I am, I'm a 164 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,920 daughter or whatever it was that you, you had said you're God. 165 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,640 Yes, and that's mine. I say I'm a daughter of the Most 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,600 High King because I I resonate so much with your story. 167 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,760 I feel like, whoa, we parallel a lot in what you're saying from 168 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,440 where I came from, and I love that this was key. 169 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,840 Also, you did hard things. You said OK, enough is enough. 170 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,480 I want to reprogram my subconscious mind to become who 171 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,640 I really am, not who I've been told I am based on circumstances 172 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,480 and programming around me from childhood, from little, right? 173 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,520 We believe this certain thing about ourselves because that's 174 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,880 our idea identity, because that's programmed to believe 175 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,040 from a very young age, whether we like it or not. 176 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,560 So you said I'm going to do the hard thing. 177 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,840 I'm going to because it's that important, get up at 5/30, 6:00 178 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,640 in the morning and go lay in my closet and say I can't do this. 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 I need you. I I refuse to live in this 180 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,960 anymore. It's almost like you got so fed 181 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,720 up with you. That's a. 182 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,640 Good way of putting it. Because that's where I've been. 183 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,800 And I, and I would say that I couldn't love myself very well 184 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,600 at all because I, I didn't, I actually dealt with a lot of 185 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,960 self hatred. And you can't love others. 186 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Well, like the Bible tells us, love your neighbor as yourself. 187 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,720 Well, if I was loving my neighbor as myself, please stay 188 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,320 out of the way because you would get, you know, because I'm the 189 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,280 hardest on me. And then I would be very hard on 190 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,160 others as well just because I was trying to hold them to that 191 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,800 standard internally. So I love that you said you made 192 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 the sacrifice because most people don't do that. 193 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,280 That puts you in the top one. Don't do that. 194 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,760 I realized though, that by spending time in His presence 195 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,600 and really saturating my soul, you know, our soul is our mind, 196 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,080 our will and our emotions. And I was saturating my mind how 197 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,400 I thought my will like my decisions and my emotions, like 198 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,640 the way I felt I was sacrificing them or laying them on the altar 199 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,840 to be saturated with just the word of God through worship, 200 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,640 through adoration, even through thankfulness and gratefulness. 201 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,520 I remember just being like God, I don't really know what to be 202 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,800 grateful for right now. Like that's how bad it was. 203 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,160 I was just like, I mean, I have kids, but that's, that's 204 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,360 generic. God, I'm thankful for my 205 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,600 children. But I started just saying it by 206 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,760 faith, OK, God, I'm thankful for my children. 207 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:22,520 I'm thankful that I get to stay home and homeschool them. 208 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,880 I'm thankful for my husband. That's a whole nother, you know. 209 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Yeah, I heard that. Exactly. 210 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,840 I'm I'm thankful for him, you know, I'm thankful for his job. 211 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,440 It's not the best, you know, So you start like, you know, 212 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,000 programming, like you were saying your mind to find things 213 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,920 to be thankful for. And then at one point it was 214 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,680 like, OK, I'm thankful for the place that we live, even though 215 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:57,120 it's not my favorite. I'm thankful for a table because 216 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,680 my kids eat good food here. It was like all the little 217 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:01,320 things. And before I know it, I was just 218 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,600 like, Lauren, I thank you for the grass that's in my backyard. 219 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,080 And I know that may sound silly to some, but if it's genuinely 220 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,320 gratefulness, it's it's huge. I mean, what is that scripture? 221 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:18,320 Give thanks and all you do give thanks and all you do. 222 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,840 And so being home and being around here, I was trying to 223 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,600 just give thanks and all things. And what it was doing, it was 224 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,200 pouring healing oil in my soul is what I felt like it was 225 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,360 doing. Yes, yeah, I love that scripture 226 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,680 to another one that comes to mind is Philippians 4/6 through 227 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:42,960 7. It says be anxious for nothing 228 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,000 or it could be complain about nothing, grumble about nothing, 229 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,160 whatever, but be anxious for nothing. 230 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,840 But in everything you know through prayer and supplication, 231 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,400 make a requests known and the peace of God will, you know, 232 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,080 guard your heart and mine in Christ Jesus and we come to him 233 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,240 with Thanksgiving in that. There's a part of it that says 234 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,520 that too. But you know, having that is so 235 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:05,000 key. And I get it. 236 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,240 I was at the point in my life, sister, where I was like, I'm 237 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,200 thankful for my toenails. I mean, it had to get seriously 238 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,400 stupid because I was so there. So I really do get you where 239 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,000 you're coming from. And everything you're saying 240 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,200 that you did to pull yourself up out of that pit is legitimately 241 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,760 the same thing I did. And it works. 242 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,280 It works, but the disconnect for people that I find is the 243 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:34,160 unwillingness to do the work, to actually get up and to break the 244 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,400 pattern of sitting in front of the TV instead or doom scrolling 245 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,360 and say, no, I'm going to get up early. 246 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,480 That's a sacrifice. Oh my goodness. 247 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,520 For most, for me, it is to get up early. 248 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,080 Some people are like, I love 4:00 AM. 249 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,920 I'm like, you're weird. I think those people are weird 250 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,720 too, and I'm a 530, a young person. 251 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,160 I have no idea. Yeah, See, I'm like, no, I'm 252 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,360 9:00. No, but I really do get up way 253 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,960 earlier than that. I just don't always like it. 254 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,400 And then when I once I do get up, I'm like, wow, the sun is so 255 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,520 beautiful and oh, the dirt. I love this. 256 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,200 Who? Knew who knew? 257 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Right. That's funny. 258 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,800 I don't sleep in on vacation because I love to get up and 259 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,240 watch the sunrise over the ocean. 260 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,200 And I don't live in, you know, near the ocean. 261 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,320 I live in the Midwest. I live in Tennessee. 262 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,720 So when I go to the ocean, I get up early so that I can see the 263 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,960 sunrise and try and Get Me Out of bed early at home. 264 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,440 Like why? Oh yeah, exactly. 265 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,120 School or something? Exactly. 266 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,560 So for me, whenever I was in that process of letting the Lord 267 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,680 heal me and him placing His identity back in me, I look back 268 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,800 at what I'm doing now like, you know, running businesses and 269 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,760 homeschooling and mentoring other moms and even running a 270 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,960 networking community and everything. 271 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,920 There's no way I could have done this and even done it well or 272 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,800 with excellence if I was still in that victim mentality and 273 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,120 that, like I said, I'm not perfect and I still have areas 274 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,080 that the Lord just trying to buff out, you know, like, for 275 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,080 one, I am a chronic people pleaser. 276 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,280 I am. And I because I love people 277 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,320 because I feel like I feel their hearts and I can identify with 278 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,440 them and so on so many levels. And I'm a fixer. 279 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,920 And so I want to like help and I want to fix and I want to 280 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,520 encourage. And so sometimes I put myself in 281 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,720 a pickle because I am a people pleaser. 282 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,200 And so there's things that the Lord is still trying to buffer 283 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,040 out in me. But if I hadn't put in that hard 284 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,520 work years ago of surrender, then I wouldn't be as effective 285 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,520 as I am now. I mean, I look back and I'm 286 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,240 like, what was I doing at that point? 287 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,080 You know, was I doing anything well? 288 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Was I even mothering well, or was I mothering out of my own 289 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,560 pain, in my own wounds? Oh my gosh, I just, I was like a 290 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,680 wounded animal. And then you also filter 291 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,960 everything through those wounds because they're not getting 292 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,800 healed. They're still festering, they're 293 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,520 still infected. If you want to say that that 294 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,720 you're filtering, filtering everything, the way people talk 295 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,960 to you, the way you're communicated, the way you come 296 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,600 across, whatever it is, it's filtered through these wounds 297 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,720 and then the cycle keeps going, doesn't stop. 298 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,120 You're so right. One of the things that you had 299 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:23,120 mentioned was you know when you started this whole process that 300 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,080 you began with repentance, you started repenting for agreeing 301 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,680 with the lie that you believed about fill in the blank. 302 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,880 And then he started to show you like, OK, one was complaining, 303 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,800 but was there a step two or three, you know, past that, that 304 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,960 that the Lord started to do to begin to heal those places in 305 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,840 you? Yes. 306 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,240 So there's a scripture. It says that the same power that 307 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,760 raised Christ from the dead lives in US. 308 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,360 And that word power is dunamis in the Greek. 309 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,560 So it says that same power, that dunamis power lives inside of 310 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,720 us. Well, when you break down that 311 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,360 word dunamis in the Greek, it means to be excellent of soul, 312 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,800 and it means the power to perform miracles. 313 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,480 What? I needed a miracle in my life. 314 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,240 I needed a miracle in my own mind. 315 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,319 I needed a miracle in my own emotions, my own identity. 316 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:17,800 I needed a miracle and I wanted to be excellent of soul. 317 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,000 I wanted to think excellently about myself, about others. 318 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,040 I wanted to feel excellent. I wanted to make decisions 319 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,960 excellently. And so after repentance, I 320 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,400 started saying, OK, God, that same power that makes me 321 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,520 excellent of soul that raised you from the dead lives in me. 322 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,440 Like I'm literally giving myself permission to be excellent, to 323 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,360 be excellent in the way I think, the way I operate, the way I 324 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,560 feel, even in my decision makings. 325 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,320 So repentance and then declaring that dunamis power back into my 326 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,760 soul. Yeah, that's so good. 327 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:55,920 So when you say excellence, as a former recovering perfectionist, 328 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,200 I hear perfectionist excellence and perfectionism are totally 329 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,720 different things. But sometimes when you've been 330 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,240 programmed to hear them as the same word, they can be a little 331 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,640 scary. And I remember I worked for a 332 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,080 church for a long time where they would say we do things in 333 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,760 excellence here. And I'm like, no, y'all are a 334 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,680 bunch of perfectionists. This is ridiculous. 335 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,280 I. Can't handle this. 336 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,760 And then I learned to be a perfectionist to the NTH degree 337 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,200 when I already was one to like just 1°, right? 338 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,200 Then I became one like, Oh no, everything has to be 339 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,240 micromanaged and perfect and this and that was ridiculous. 340 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,760 And I had a hard time because of that. 341 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,680 So could you talk about that for those women who might be 342 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,760 listening right now who feel a little bit triggered like I did 343 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,000 by that word excellence only because I do understand that 344 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,680 word. And and I think that it's 345 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,680 important to to really sit here for a minute in that Dunamis 346 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,520 power is that excellence of spirit. 347 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,320 But how can we get past feeling like, oh, I have to be 348 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,040 excellent, meaning I have to be perfect. 349 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,240 How'd you deal with that? Or did you deal with that? 350 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,640 That's a great question. So I'm a type A person, so I do 351 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,280 like a lot of things perfect. I like things tidy and perfect, 352 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,360 and that perfectionism definitely comes out at times. 353 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,520 But you're right, there is definitely a difference between 354 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,040 being perfect and doing things excellently. 355 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,800 Doing something excellent, I feel like is a quality from the 356 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,480 Lord. It's how you treat people. 357 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:31,640 It's how you operate your business. 358 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,240 How do you serve your husband? How do you disciple your 359 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,120 children? That doesn't take perfectionism. 360 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,760 That takes excellence. And doing things excellently is 361 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,240 doing things with good character. 362 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,640 You can have bad character and be a perfectionist, but it takes 363 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,640 good character to do things excellently. 364 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,840 I love what Webster Dictionary, the 1828 version, says about 365 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,640 excellence. And this is what it says. 366 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:07,080 It says a valuable quality. Anything highly virtuous in 367 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,080 person, or valuable and esteemed in things. 368 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Somebody. Purity of heart. 369 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Uprightness of mind, sincerity, virtue, and excellence of 370 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,840 character, strength and beauty. And I think that that describes 371 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,520 excellence so well. I do too. 372 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,680 That's that's wonderful. Thank you for that. 373 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,360 Yeah. Yeah, that's really great. 374 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,720 So then when we think about perfectionism, what is 375 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,480 perfectionism? It's this, right? 376 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Like this need to constantly be right and in control I think. 377 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,680 Yes, yes, thinking that your way is better, I would say that that 378 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,800 is perfectionism. I think I always say be 379 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,880 professional without being perfect. 380 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:58,680 It can be doable, but perfectionism definitely gets 381 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,520 you in trouble. And it can get you in trouble, 382 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,560 you know, you you leave maybe dissatisfied, you know, with the 383 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,320 result of something. So. 384 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Yeah, yeah, I think that's partly to learning to manage 385 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,320 expectations. And I when I started my whole 386 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,560 business journey online, there was so many new things. 387 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,120 I had really no idea what I was doing. 388 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:23,000 And I started with YouTube and Oh my goodness, I had no idea 389 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,040 what I was doing. And I had never been on camera. 390 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,920 I'd never dealt with SEOI had never done any of those types of 391 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,080 things. And I remember the silly things 392 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,040 that I did when I started just to make myself start. 393 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,120 And I would cry. I would just sit and cry like, 394 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:42,880 this is garbage. I can't post this, you know? 395 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,240 And then I would post it anyway. And I did take some of those 396 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,160 things down, though, so you can't go find them now because, 397 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,960 oh, my goodness, they really were rough. 398 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,360 But through the course of, yeah, through the course of those 399 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:57,560 couple of first years of trying something new and really failing 400 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,160 hardcore, like, I was just flopping on my face a lot and I 401 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,040 had, like, bloody nose every day, right? 402 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,360 And so I had to really push through this idea that it needed 403 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,640 to be perfect because I was stuck there. 404 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,560 Like if it's not like the million subscriber person, then 405 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,680 I can't publish this. It's, it's garbage because I 406 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,720 don't have the editing skills, I'm not a videographer, I don't 407 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,200 have the right equipment. All the excuses that I would 408 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,720 come up with. But in all reality, I had to get 409 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,200 back to the main thing was why did I start that in the 1st 410 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,600 place? It was for the message, not for 411 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,840 the production. It was for the message of it 412 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,440 all. And that production performance, 413 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,120 right? I could also call that a 414 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,720 performance mentality was huge problem for me. 415 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,960 And I got to the point where I started to tell myself that done 416 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,160 is better than perfect. It's done. 417 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,480 Put it out there and move on. And I even did this is so funny 418 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,200 that yesterday I pulled up something that I had posted on 419 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,800 my YouTube channel, I think in 2020 and I pulled it up because 420 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,320 I I wanted to hear. There was some affirmations I 421 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,840 did. I wanted to hear there was one I 422 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,280 was looking for. And as I was listening to that 423 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,600 video that I did, I was just doing the dishes. 424 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,680 I was getting dinner done. I was just listening in my 425 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,720 Earpods and Oh my goodness, I just criticized myself up and 426 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,200 down. I was like, whoa, this is 427 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,080 horrible. Oh my goodness. 428 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,760 And then I was like, no, this is like a a child learning to walk. 429 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,960 You were just crawling. You can't just like say you 430 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320 crawled wrong. You had to get there first. 431 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,040 Yeah, no, I identify with that. So I just started my own YouTube 432 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,840 channel this year and I'm only a few episodes in, but I've been 433 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,160 going back and editing them so that I can put them on Apple 434 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,840 podcast. And I'm crunching so bad even 435 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,880 because I'm like you said, I am in that child learning to walk 436 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,760 stage with the YouTube channel. If you want me to make you some 437 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,480 sourdough bread, I can whip that up really fast. 438 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,680 I've been doing that for years. You. 439 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,680 Know and I cannot. Do you want inclusions in it? 440 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,520 You know, caramelized onion, all this stuff. 441 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,760 I can do that like fast. But this whole YouTube thing, it 442 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,000 has been, I have to let go of that perfectionism because doing 443 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,240 it with the spirit of excellence, I give myself grace. 444 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,600 And if I was being perfect in it, it wouldn't be up there at 445 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,640 all. None of those videos would be up 446 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,560 there because here's the thing, where is the standard of 447 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,400 perfectionism? Like where where do you draw the 448 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,120 line and say, OK, when you reach this, you've reached perfection, 449 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,480 actionism because you never do. You're constantly raising the 450 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,160 bar. And so if you're doing that, you 451 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,680 never get anything accomplished ever. 452 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,920 And so I have, so I go going back. 453 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,480 I digress. But anyways, I'm going back to 454 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,040 editing these to put them on the the Apple podcast and Spotify. 455 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,000 I'm cringing. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I sound 456 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:55,440 like awful. And you know, and just all the 457 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,920 things. And then I go, so let me just 458 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,800 give you this. So I have several of them 459 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,480 already on YouTube. Well, then I figured out, well, 460 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,600 if they're on YouTube, might as well just make a podcast out of 461 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,720 them. So I'm going back and reloading 462 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,360 the ones that are already on YouTube on the podcast. 463 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Well, I'm sitting here watching these and editing films that are 464 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,240 already on YouTube and cringing. And then I have to remind 465 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,360 myself, oh, that's the episode that a couple people reached out 466 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,160 to me and was like, that was so inspiring. 467 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,440 Thank you for doing that. And I have to go, OK, like 468 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,400 somebody heard that already and they've already, they received 469 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,680 what was said. They heard the message, they 470 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,800 heard the message. And that is what's the most 471 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,280 important thing, getting your message out. 472 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,200 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And that's what most women get 473 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,720 stuck in, that I help. Is that OK? 474 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,800 I want to write a book. I want to start the YouTube 475 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,000 channel. I want to do whatever, fill in 476 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,600 the blank. But I'm terrified of what people 477 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,960 will think of me if it's not perfect and polished and I'm not 478 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,080 her yet. Yet so how do I get past where I 479 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,640 am doing it messy. I call it massive messy action. 480 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Do it messy snot sling in tears everywhere. 481 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,880 It's OK just do it. And you know a lot of women get 482 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,280 stuck in that. I can't, right? 483 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,800 Because it's that fear of man that keeps stuck. 484 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760 And I'd love for you to talk about I'm sure you battled this 485 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,120 at at some point. How did you surrender that? 486 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:23,320 Because that's AI mean. I know how I did it because 487 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,640 whoa, it's rough. You just push through. 488 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,200 You have a big calling, right? You know, but I'd love to hear 489 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,160 from you how you could help somebody listening right now. 490 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,480 How did you surrender that fear of man for imperfection? 491 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:41,080 This may not be spiritual and it may not even your listeners may 492 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,320 not even like like what I'm about to say, but sometimes you 493 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,640 just have to do it yes, just do just have to do it. 494 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,320 I mean you can pray until the cows come home about Lord give 495 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,600 me the boldness and everything, but honestly, you won't get that 496 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,240 boldness until you press post 100%. 497 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,120 And it's true. And I, I dealt with that so bad. 498 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:06,000 Like I was so afraid of posting something new because it is 499 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,960 always a select few. Like you can literally count on 500 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,200 your hands how many naysayers are going to probably pop up 501 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,200 right out of the hundreds or thousands of people that are 502 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,040 following you. You're worried about the few. 503 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,880 Well, if they're not your customer, they're not your 504 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,360 followers, then don't worry about it. 505 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,960 You know, and I know that's easier said than done. 506 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,560 You do have to get back to that point, but the best way to get 507 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,760 to that point is just to post. Because if you don't do it, 508 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,240 you're not being obedient anymore. 509 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,360 And you're not being true to yourself, right? 510 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,880 Yeah, yeah. I think you have to have a big 511 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,120 enough reason why. And I did not start a YouTube 512 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:44,280 channel so that I could be seen. That was my big enough reason 513 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,680 why. Then I would have crumbled for 514 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,440 sure, because I didn't want to be seen, really. 515 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,160 And if I was seen in in any light that was like, oh, this is 516 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,760 not perfect. I would have ran for the hills 517 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,760 and thankfully God really did shelter me, protected me from a 518 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,720 lot of trolls on the Internet and I didn't have to deal with 519 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,920 that a lot. A few times people would say 520 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,280 stuff and I would go, I can see right through that. 521 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,800 That's the enemy trying to keep me quiet, you know, because I 522 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,680 was told my whole life to sit down and shut up. 523 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,320 And I know that the Lord has said to use your voice because 524 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,440 it's very important. So when I was doing it so 525 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,240 imperfectly and I still constantly say umm and like, and 526 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,400 all the things, who cares? Like I'm just now I don't even 527 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,760 notice it when somebody else says anything. 528 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,240 I just move on because I already know my mission is bigger than 529 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,720 my need for it to be polished all the way, right? 530 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,720 It doesn't have to be polished and and you know, it just needs 531 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,480 to be enough to get the message out there. 532 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,720 And that's hope and freedom, healing that you can live the 533 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760 life you were designed to live and you got to get past. 534 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,200 Yourself. Yeah, yeah. 535 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,600 And like you said earlier, it is a reprogramming. 536 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,480 I promise you, if you just continue to just put yourself 537 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,440 out there, put your voice out there, let it be heard your 538 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,840 message, whatever the Lord's put on your heart to do or to say, I 539 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,160 promise you that it gets easier and easier. 540 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,080 And before long you really won't care. 541 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,520 You're, I'm going to be like, I, you're going to get to the point 542 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,160 where you're just like, OK, I have to do this now. 543 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,760 I have to post this. I have to share this. 544 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,440 It's got to go out. You know, it's really funny, 545 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,080 Kelly. I was just telling my husband 546 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,880 this the other day. I had to stand up in front of a 547 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,400 room full of women and speak like in life, not on camera 548 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,680 because you can hide behind your camera. 549 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,240 I think a little bit. Well, I would have never been 550 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,040 able to do that for five well, five years ago when I started my 551 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,440 whole online journey behind a camera, I would sit in my 552 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,320 bedroom. I didn't have an office in my I 553 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,760 have an office in my home now because my children too have 554 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,560 grown and moved out. Now I have extra rooms, but I 555 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,880 didn't I had my bedroom and I would record in my bedroom and I 556 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,160 it was just me in the camera. And that was nerve racking 557 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,760 enough. If you would have asked me 20 558 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,280 years ago when I was, you know, in my early 20s, would you ever 559 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,720 consider public speaking? I would say you could kill me 560 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,680 now, right? Like no, absolutely not. 561 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,840 But in order for me to get to the point where I stood up in 562 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,640 front of that room of women and spoke confidently without ever 563 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,200 having a nerve come up. And I'm not saying that this is 564 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,760 going to always happen, but it just, I noticed it because it 565 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520 was such a big deal. I confidently stood up in front 566 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,080 of this room of women and spoke for 1015 minutes, didn't even 567 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,720 think about me once. I wasn't worried about how I 568 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,640 sounded or whatever because I was more concerned about what 569 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,200 they needed than the way I came across. 570 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,360 And I was able to share freely. Well, I told him, I said all 571 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,320 this practice I've been doing behind this screen, behind my 572 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,000 microphone or wherever you're catching me because I'm on 573 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,280 TikTok, I'm on Facebook, I'm all over the place, right? 574 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,600 So sometimes you'll see video of me, sometimes you hear me. 575 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,840 But you know, I think all this practice has helped me to get to 576 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,480 the point where now I could say, yes, I could probably stand up 577 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,680 in a room full of 1000 people and what, I'd be nervous he is. 578 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,000 But now I can see myself actually doing it because I've 579 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,200 practice doing hard things for the last five years that now I 580 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000 really think, Oh, well, maybe that is possible because if I've 581 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,720 done these hard things, I can do other hard things too. 582 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,040 Oh, yeah, absolutely. That is so true. 583 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,080 I mean, like you said, you will do it with nerves. 584 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,640 Don't let your nerves keep you from doing something. 585 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040 Don't let you know being scared keep you. 586 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,880 I mean, I get nervous. It's funny because whenever I 587 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,080 have guests on my show, I'm not really nervous. 588 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440 But if you asked me to, like I was nervous before I got on 589 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880 here. But you just you just do it 590 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,880 anyways. Yeah, that's so interesting 591 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,160 because you know, well, we're meeting each other for the first 592 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,000 time too. Really. 593 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,040 I mean, I know we're Facebook friends, but you know, that can 594 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,240 be a little nerve racking when you're meeting somebody for the 595 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,000 first time. So we're meeting for the first 596 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,880 time, but I've been excited all morning about meeting with you. 597 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,120 I started getting excited yesterday. 598 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,040 Like OK, I have, I have more people have clients to meet with 599 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720 later this week. I have other people to interview 600 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,680 later this week. I get excited a day ahead of 601 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,760 time about meeting with them. So there's, there's no nerves 602 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,680 anymore. I think I used to battle that, 603 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,160 but now it's like I'm just so excited and excitement and 604 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,320 business or fear, actually excitement and fear register as 605 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,640 the same thing in our brains, believe it or not. 606 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,120 And our brains perceive them as the same thing. 607 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,480 So I just stopped saying nervous or what is going to happen or I 608 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,120 don't know, what if they asked me something I can't answer? 609 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,360 Or what if I don't know what to ask them? 610 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280 Oh, no, no, no, that's enough of that. 611 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,440 Like I'm just excited. Well, why am I excited? 612 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,920 I'm going to have this amazing conversation with this other 613 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,960 human being that the Lord loves just as much as he loves me. 614 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,200 And I'm so excited about getting to meet somebody new. 615 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,000 I love it. Or getting to talk with my 616 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,840 client or whatever it is to hear what what God is doing in and 617 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,160 through their life today or this past week or whatever it might 618 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,440 be. So I just shifted from that, you 619 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,440 know, that being nervous or afraid of the unknown because 620 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,040 that's really what it is to be an excited about a new adventure 621 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,680 of like, wow, I get to meet this person. 622 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,440 And because I've seen so many times connecting and you said 623 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800 networking, you have a networking community that's huge 624 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760 because when we're networking, we're meeting lots of people for 625 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,520 the first time. And through networking, even 626 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,600 online, LinkedIn has been a fabulous place for me to 627 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,600 network. But other places too, like 628 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,760 Facebook, like you and I met on Facebook, I look at the Internet 629 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,760 as like the world's largest networking community ever. 630 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,400 And I've met the most amazing people. 631 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,440 We've totally changed and transformed my life. 632 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,520 And then this past weekend, I go to a class with my husband. 633 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,440 He's really into the stock market and he wanted me to come 634 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,280 and try and learn some stuff about the stock market. 635 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640 Well, I me and numbers are not besties, OK. 636 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,920 So I was like, Oh my gosh, I love people though. 637 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,760 So I'm the girl that's sitting at the table in person with our, 638 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,520 you know, group of people that we're sitting with. 639 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,240 I'm noticing all the behaviors of the people around me because 640 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400 I study people. He studies numbers. 641 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,400 I noticed a woman was so mad and angry about something, she got 642 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,080 up, she left. I noticed everything about the 643 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,760 situation. He was listening intently to the 644 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,560 presenter and I had no idea what that that guy said. 645 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,120 All I knew was I know exactly what happened to this woman over 646 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,800 here and her husband before and I never was part of their 647 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,639 conversation, but I knew exactly what happened because I was 648 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,639 studying their behavior. Just like, that's what I do. 649 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:20,000 I can't help it. It's who I am. 650 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,760 And I turned to my husband. I was like, Oh my gosh, that 651 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,120 Lady, she just left really upset. 652 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,159 He's like, what? What lady? 653 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:25,600 He didn't even know she was there, right? 654 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,040 This is me and my husband. Yes, and I don't think there's 655 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,920 anything wrong with that. He's not wrong. 656 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,440 I'm not wrong. We're just different and that's 657 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,199 wonderful. So the point of that was I got 658 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,159 to network with these people and I met an amazing woman who, you 659 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,520 know, we're going to be able to connect later, hopefully this 660 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,960 week or next week and chat about, you know, just her 661 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,719 starting her coaching program because she said, well, I asked 662 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,120 her the question, well, what do you do? 663 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,880 And that I love to ask that question because it starts this, 664 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,840 this beautiful snowball of really getting into forget what 665 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,200 they do. Who are you? 666 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,040 Who are you? What are you about? 667 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Yeah, yes, I love networking. I mean, like I said, I was 668 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,360 nervous getting on here. But that has been one of my 669 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,560 favorite things is to meeting women across the world, across 670 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,800 the globe, because it's one thing when you're rubbing 671 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,680 shoulders with people in your everyday life who you know, 672 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,920 believe the same way you do and who are kind of doing the same 673 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,080 thing you're doing. But it's a whole nother level 674 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:29,360 when you're meeting women across the globe and it's you see the 675 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,760 bigger picture. Wow. 676 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,920 There's so many godly women who love their families, love the 677 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,480 Lord, and who are taking territory in the marketplace and 678 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,800 in the home, but what they're doing and then connecting with 679 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,200 them, it's powerful. It's so fun too. 680 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,800 It's it is, it's like a new adventure. 681 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,040 It's that something new kind of almost every day, you know, 682 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,720 feels like. So that's really good. 683 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,680 Well, I want to transition just really quick into walking in 684 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,480 obedience and identity, which I know is what you love helping 685 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,000 women to do after you have, you know, broke through your walls. 686 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,760 And I know that we are all a work in progress, but you've 687 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,080 broken through a lot. So now you help women to walk in 688 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,360 their assignments as well, just like you're doing, especially 689 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,240 those who have been focused on their home, like homemaking, 690 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,920 raising the kids, homeschooling, but they also sense that God's 691 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,480 calling them to more. But you just share. 692 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,640 What does that transition really look like for most of the women 693 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,280 that you are working with or walking this out with? 694 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,240 Here's what I've noticed I've been homeschooling. 695 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,680 I think this is like our 12th or 13th year that we just finished. 696 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,360 So I've been homeschooling for a long time. 10 plus years ago, if 697 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,000 you'd have told me that homeschoolers were going to be 698 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,440 having businesses or that I was going to have my own business, I 699 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,280 would be like, no, I'm, I'm a homeschool mom. 700 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,720 Like that's what we do. Over the last couple of years, I 701 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,600 have noticed this shift and I really do think it's Kingdom. 702 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,120 It's a Kingdom like God's Kingdom shift where God is 703 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,360 enlarging the capacity of these homeschool moms, these stay at 704 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,680 home moms who have been home with their children. 705 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,080 And the Lord is like, OK, but you have something else on your 706 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,080 heart. And so I'm not taking away your 707 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,520 time from your family. I'm actually increasing it and 708 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,880 I'm enlarging that capacity without sacrificing your family 709 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,400 time. And so I come in and I go, OK, 710 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,920 God's play something on your heart. 711 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,360 You don't have to pick either or you don't have to pick staying 712 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,240 home or moving into the marketplace. 713 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,880 You can do both. And I come in and I'm like, OK, 714 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,320 So what does this look like? And we break it down very 715 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,120 practical. And the story that I always tell 716 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,800 them, I find in Second Kings chapter 4. 717 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,360 And it's about the lady whose son died. 718 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,360 And she's, I mean, her, her husband died and she's got two 719 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,400 sons and Elisha's coming and he and she's like, hey, my sons are 720 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,600 about to be sold into slavery. Like we have no money. 721 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,360 And he said, what do you have in your home? 722 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,240 And she's like, well, we have a little bit of olive oil. 723 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:02,280 And he goes, OK, go get some jars and pour it. 724 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,680 And she was able to fill the jars, sell the oil and pay off 725 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,720 her debt. And so that is the foundation 726 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:13,680 and starting point whenever I'm talking to them about walking in 727 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,520 obedience and doing what the Lord has called them to do. 728 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,240 What do you have in your home? You don't have to go search for 729 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,160 that. It's already here. 730 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,760 It's already in the in your four walls, it's already in your 731 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,160 atmosphere. It's already in your wheelhouse. 732 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,720 What do you feel? And that's where it actually 733 00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,240 started for me. It was baking. 734 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,480 I I was reading that one day we were in, this is another area We 735 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,360 were in so much that we had no money. 736 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,360 We were having kids one after another. 737 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,720 We had four kids in four years. I had five pregnancies in five 738 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:49,160 years. We lost our first one. 739 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,720 That was, you know, the loss I was talking about as well. 740 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,280 And we were barely surviving. I say we were just treading 741 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,680 water. We weren't getting anywhere in 742 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,840 life and I was like, OK, I know that I can't leave my kids. 743 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,240 I can't go put them in daycare or whatever and then go look for 744 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:06,880 a job because then I'd just be paying daycare. 745 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,240 But I'm like, what can I do? So I just started baking and I'm 746 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,840 like, OK, that's something that I love to do. 747 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,160 I do it all the time. So that actually helped us get 748 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,960 out of debt, help me start a business, and it helped me go, 749 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,560 OK, Lord, I was able to stay home. 750 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,800 I was able to be with my kids and still poor and disciple them 751 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,240 and all the things that I need to do, serve my husband, be here 752 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:35,680 for him and make side income. Wow, you know, that's huge. 753 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,840 I wrote that down. I'm going to really meditate on 754 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,960 that, that scripture because what do you have in your home? 755 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,080 What is what is it you already have? 756 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,480 And I've heard that scripture so many times over the last year. 757 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,200 So when you said it, I mean, just, you know, we, we listen 758 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,600 for, we hear what we are listening for. 759 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,440 And I, I'm always listening for that because I firmly believe 760 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,200 that I can do what I meant to do doing it at home. 761 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,680 And I just had this conversation this weekend with my husband. 762 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Sure, it would be easy for me. I'm smart to go out and get a 763 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,400 job somewhere, anywhere and do well. 764 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,720 But I know that I know I am created for this. 765 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,280 I am created to work from home and be available for my family 766 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,880 and create an income and an impact at the same time. 767 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,200 So what do you have at home? Whoa. 768 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,960 Like ladies, write that down and then ask the Lord. 769 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,640 Because what Kelly just shared is golden. 770 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,320 It's scripture, obviously, so it is. 771 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,280 But you know, it's such a revelation. 772 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,640 Yes, yeah, that'd be my advice. Ask the Lord. 773 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,760 He's still the creative God, you know, if you need a creative 774 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,880 idea, I mean, he's still running that out. 775 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,920 And I will say this, it comes with a warning, OK, if you ask 776 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,040 for creative ideas, you're going to find yourself overwhelmed 777 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,360 with creative ideas. And that's where I find myself. 778 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400 It's like my husband is like, Kelly, you have enough. 779 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,160 You cannot. And I'm like, yeah, but that's 780 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,080 why I started coaching is that way I can help other women who 781 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,080 feel who I think are called to that Maybe I can point, you 782 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,480 know, connect some dots here. Like, have you thought about 783 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,080 this? I can't do this anymore because 784 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,600 I already have 10 things that I'm doing. 785 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,320 But you should. Right, yes, I'm so happy to hear 786 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,360 that you struggle with that because I've yet to meet anybody 787 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,320 that admitted that yet. And you, you worded it like my 788 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,280 brain would. So thank you because I am there 789 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,560 with you and I told my husband that this weekend too. 790 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,080 We, we talk a lot. So I was like, he's like my best 791 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,360 friend for real. And I, I told him I'm doing too 792 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,320 much. I am doing it too much because I 793 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,000 have all these creative ideas and the Lord renamed me at one 794 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,920 point. He gave me when in my quiet time 795 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,240 with with Jesus, he literally gave me a new name and it was 796 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,480 beautiful and I was like, what does that even mean? 797 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,640 And I went and looked it up in it. 798 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,400 The first meaning of it is creative. 799 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,600 And I was like, OK, but at the same Time, Lord, because I 800 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,440 remember saying for a long time that I am not creative. 801 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,840 I believe that for the majority of my life, I believe that I was 802 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,560 not creative until about 10 years ago. 803 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,080 And then I recognized, oh, the creator that created me lives in 804 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,760 me. So therefore I am creative. 805 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,200 OK, wow. That was like an immediate 806 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,120 belief that I just swapped to. But for him to rename me. 807 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,600 And the first meaning of that is creative. 808 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,720 Oh, that's why I'm like, that's why I have only the millions of 809 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,280 different, yeah, millions of different things that I'm like, 810 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,600 I could do this and I could write that and I could create 811 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,120 this and, well, this will help somebody and that will do this. 812 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,200 And then and then I'm stressed out and my hair's falling out 813 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,680 and I can't sleep and. Yes, you know, you mentioned it 814 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040 about my book Deborah and the Motherly Anointing. 815 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,240 And I talk about this a little bit in the book where when she's 816 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,880 being introduced in Judges Chapter 5, it says that she's a 817 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,840 wife, she's a prophetess, she's a judge. 818 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,160 And then you think, OK, well, that's that's a pretty playful, 819 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,520 you know, then it goes on saying then she arose a mother. 820 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,840 And so I think that there is a limit obviously to our capacity 821 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,880 because we're only human, but there's a lot more that the Lord 822 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,840 has to unveil within his daughters. 823 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,440 Yeah, I agree. Wow. 824 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,320 I hope that you all go out and get that book. 825 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,040 I'll make sure to link that in the show notes so that you can 826 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,600 go grab that, you know, let the Lord speak to you, listen to 827 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,080 what he's saying in that, because we all need to know that 828 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,600 we are created for things. Different seasons too. 829 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,800 I think that we can have specific calls for different 830 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,800 seasons and things that God is asking us to do at even a 831 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,200 different capacity, and there's nothing wrong with that. 832 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,680 Life ebbs and flows just like waves come and go. 833 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,560 That's what life does. But I love that you're 834 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,480 empowering women to look at what they already have before they 835 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,960 feel like they have to go outside of themselves or outside 836 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,720 of, you know, where they feel really drawn to be, which is at 837 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,240 home with their children or doing that as well. 838 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:52,920 So, you know, talking about obedience over hustle too is 839 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,240 really important because, well, I don't like the word hustle to 840 00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:57,880 begin with. Even in the gym, when people 841 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,200 like hustle, hustle, I just I can't word to me, it's like a 842 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,840 bro marketing term. I just don't like it, but I do. 843 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,240 I think most people understand it. 844 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:09,240 That's why I'm using it. So, you know, overworking, 845 00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:12,240 whatever we want to call it, you know, just running like crazy on 846 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,600 a hamster wheel. What does that mean to you, to 847 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,600 walk in obedience over just hustling to do a thing? 848 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,360 How's that shaped your approach to life and business? 849 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,160 Yeah. So first of all, figure out what 850 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,560 your priorities are. You know, I did use that term 851 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,160 hustle for my channel just because I liked how it sounded 852 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,320 from home to hustle, but hustling in that sense. 853 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,040 I'm not talking about where, like you said, you're on hamster 854 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,600 will and you're spinning your wheels and you're like going 855 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,720 from here to here. Oh, I've got to do this, I've 856 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,000 got to do this and got to do this. 857 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,040 No, that's not what obedience looks like. 858 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,400 Obedience, rest and obedience go hand in hand. 859 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,000 So when you are walking in obedience, you've got to allow 860 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,200 yourself to have that time of rest as well. 861 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,360 And you have to allow yourself. That's the keyword. 862 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,760 So for me, I know that I have a checklist of things that I have 863 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,640 to do today. If I can just be practical about 864 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,920 this, I have a lot that I need to do and it's going to come 865 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,520 across as if I'm hustling. I've got to send out this, I've 866 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,600 got to do this. I've got to, you know, get, get 867 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,720 back with this person. I've got a couple of interviews 868 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,520 to do today. Plus my kids are home. 869 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,920 And so hustling begins in our mind. 870 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,280 So I'm thinking to myself, Oh my gosh, I got to do this, this, 871 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,560 this and this. And then all of a sudden I'm 872 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,840 hustling in my mind and therefore it's going to come 873 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,000 out. And the way I, my body language, 874 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,240 the way I'm talking to my children, the way I'm doing 875 00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:26,360 things like hurry up, you got to do that. 876 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,160 You know, the obedience is OK. Lord, you've asked me to do XY 877 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,960 and Z. It's OK if some things don't get 878 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,000 done today, I'm going to make it for me. 879 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,080 I'm a type A person, so I have a checklist of things I wrote 880 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,920 down, specifically things I have to do. 881 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,040 And whenever I'm done, I'll cross it off. 882 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,920 And so you have that feeling of accomplishment, but you're not, 883 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,640 you didn't hustle to get that done. 884 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,440 Now, some things do take priority. 885 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,760 You know, some things like, OK, I do need to do this. 886 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,080 But other things are, for the most part, really ask yourself, 887 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,720 does this need to be done right now? 888 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:01,640 Am I sacrificing anything really important, whether it's business 889 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,480 or family, to get this done and can it wait? 890 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,960 That's so good. And I love that you, you just 891 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,640 identified that you're not a proactive of hustling, but 892 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,120 you're just saying this is just kind of it's working, right? 893 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,800 We're getting we're getting her done right. 894 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,440 Yeah, yes, we're doing the thing and it can be done from a place 895 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,560 of peace as well. You know, just because for me 896 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,880 that word was triggering for a long time because it wasn't like 897 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,280 hustle meant like what you said, it starts in the mind and I'm 898 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,600 doing 1000 million different things in my brain. 899 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,840 And then my daughter says, hey, mom. 900 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,080 And I'm like, what? You know, because I'm so 901 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,760 stressed out that, you know, I can't even respond to properly 902 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,400 to her because you have no idea. There is like 16 CEO meetings 903 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,240 going on and then a board of directors is going on. 904 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,160 And then oh, I have to be with a creative team is in here as 905 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,720 well. And. 906 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,880 Yep. A lot going on and oh, then 907 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,760 there's social media yelling at you to be a certain way and do a 908 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,280 certain thing and make a certain amount. 909 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,000 And it's like, OK, you know what? 910 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,040 I'm done. And I told one of my girlfriends 911 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,760 last year, beginning of 2024, I said I'm done, I'm 912 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,200 disconnecting, I'm unplugging, I'm done. 913 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,400 And I really did. I took a huge time out and I 914 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,760 just turned off YouTube. I turned off all of it. 915 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,960 Now I showed up faithfully every single week. 916 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,320 I didn't miss a week of posting. I would have a video week and 917 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,640 then I did even a 40 day Bible study that you can still go find 918 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,320 on my YouTube channel. It's called freedom from 919 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,600 emotional eating for 40 days straight. 920 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,720 I got up and I started alive at 6:00 AM and I, if you recall, I 921 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,600 don't like mornings, right? And so I did the thing because 922 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,000 it was in obedience in 2023. Well, the beginning of 2024, I 923 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,760 just burnt out. I was like, I can't keep this up 924 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,040 no more. I'm done like 3 1/2 years of 925 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160 this, I'm done. And I just told my my friend, 926 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,960 I'm going to take a break because I feel, I feel like I'm 927 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,480 going the wrong direction and I'm running off the edge of a 928 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,280 Cliff at 100 miles an hour and I see the Cliff. 929 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,480 I know it's coming. I've got to put the brakes on. 930 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,200 And I did. And it was one of the best 931 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,280 decisions I ever made because in that season, that's when I 932 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,440 learned, oh, you're hustling. This is the hustle, this is the 933 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,680 stress because it's silently killing you. 934 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,840 And it's not good. It's not healthy, and you can't 935 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,440 lead the life that God has called you to lead unhealthy 936 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,920 mentally, emotionally or physically. 937 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,240 You cannot do it. I was dealing with the physical 938 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,880 part of my health for so long that I neglected some of the 939 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,560 emotional things and then vice versa. 940 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,080 And it just really all does work synergistically. 941 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,560 It has to, yeah. It does. 942 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,440 You're right. And that should be your red 943 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,360 flag. As if you're feeling like you 944 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,360 said, I'm about to jump off this Cliff, I'm headed towards this 945 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,440 Cliff and everything. That should be a red flag that 946 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,880 you're probably hustling more than you are resting. 947 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,200 Yeah, I didn't even know the word rest. 948 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,160 My husband would say Sabbath, today's Sunday, we're resting. 949 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,560 And I would get mad at him. Like stop being lazy. 950 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,600 We got stuff to do, you know. That was me too. 951 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,960 Oh my gosh. I was always busy and I felt 952 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,120 like I wasn't productive unless I was doing something. 953 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,520 I grew up like that too. I mean, we would be sitting on 954 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,600 the couch and my dad would come home and we'd hear the door shut 955 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,800 at like his truck door. Like me and my brothers would 956 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,240 get up be like, what do we have to do? 957 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,520 We have to do something. And that's just how we grew up 958 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,400 where it was like, you're not productive unless you or 959 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,600 actually doing something or look busy. 960 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,600 And the Lord had to deliver me from that because I married 961 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,800 somebody who is a chronic ruster and loves downtime. 962 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,760 And that has really been the most beneficial thing in my 963 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,560 life. I agree. 964 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,160 Well, we're really like super same. 965 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,320 We're twinsies in a lot of. Art, we're twinsies like you. 966 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,480 Italian. Yes. 967 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,120 Yes, I was going to say you look like my family. 968 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:45,920 Wow, that's really weird. I am Italian, so my grandmother, 969 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,080 I'm third generation American on my grandmother's side, her 970 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,760 family's from Sicily. OK, that's cool. 971 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,280 I am some Italian. I'm not. 972 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,800 I'm not like full on. But yeah, for sure. 973 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,320 It's the love that you said that you married a chronic restor. 974 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,160 I'm going to call him that now. I'm like, yeah, but it has been 975 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,840 so good for me because I'm telling you, there's times where 976 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,920 I didn't think it was going to be good for him, but it was good 977 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,440 for me. But I had to learn. 978 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,400 Like, I love him so much and he's really is my best friend, 979 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,880 but I'm like, I don't want to hurt him with my words because 980 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,480 I'm angry at his differences, you know? 981 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,040 How do I handle this Lord? And he was showing me it's not 982 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,400 his fault. It's not he's not doing anything 983 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,000 wrong. You need free. 984 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,720 You need free from these things. And that was one of them. 985 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,080 Is that running, running, running towards something was 986 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,200 that productivity meant success. And I was afraid of failure. 987 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,840 And so if I would stop and rest, I was going to fail. 988 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,160 And I think that when you said that about the picture of your 989 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,920 dad even coming home, in my mind, I thought, I'm pretty sure 990 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,520 I did that to my children when they were younger because I 991 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,200 value productivity. And I got to tell you this funny 992 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,040 story. I started meeting with accounts 993 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,040 after my dad passed away in 2021. 994 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,240 I was grieving like I never I've grew. 995 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,120 I've been through a lot and grieved a lot of things and had 996 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,400 a lot of loss, but there was nothing like what when he died. 997 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,920 I don't know why, it just hit different. 998 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,560 And I had to go through grief counseling if I was going to 999 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,880 keep breathing. And this grief counselor, she 1000 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,640 was just going on and on every week we'd meet and I'd think, 1001 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,880 what is the point of this? I, I don't see anything 1002 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,920 productive happening here. And I remember after about six 1003 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,520 months of this weekly meeting with her, I said, I just, I 1004 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,520 can't keep going meeting with you if I can't see an end 1005 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,440 result. When I heard myself say that, it 1006 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,080 was like a punch in the face because I could see her face 1007 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,800 too, because we were virtual. And she was like, wow, OK. 1008 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,000 It was like the Lord saying to me, this isn't about an end 1009 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000 result. This is about the process of 1010 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,080 becoming healed. You are becoming this, whatever 1011 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,240 it is you are. And, you know, she said, what if 1012 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:56,480 there was no end result? What if this wasn't anything 1013 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,320 that needed to have an end result? 1014 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,360 And I said, I don't think I could keep meeting with you then 1015 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,160 if you can't tell me that there's a end result that I can 1016 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,160 be productive and give me a checklist for the week, like you 1017 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,880 said, like I need to know what can I be doing this week that 1018 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,840 can help me move forward. And if I can't see an end 1019 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,360 result, then I can't, I can't keep wasting my time, right? 1020 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,880 And it was just such a eye opening thing because she said 1021 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,440 some beautiful things to me that I needed to hear and I didn't 1022 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:27,120 like it was true though. I had to peel back the in me and 1023 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,400 say you need to take a break. I'm going to hang you up for a 1024 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,720 little while. You've done a good job at 1025 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:35,600 keeping me safe for this long, but it's time for you to rest. 1026 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,080 I am OK, I am safe without productivity and nobody's going 1027 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,520 to yell at you. Yeah, really, Catherine, That's 1028 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,240 really good. That's really good. 1029 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,640 Yeah, and I think we've all been there. 1030 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,680 I mean, that's why I started this podcast because ladies, 1031 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,560 like you said, it's Kingdom. This is we are at the wire. 1032 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,800 We've got to get free from our garbage and our junk and what's 1033 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,160 holding us back so that we can run our race with endurance. 1034 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,200 You ever tried to run with a weighted vest on? 1035 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,360 Oh my. Goodness, I don't recommend 1036 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,400 that. Not if you're not a runner, 1037 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,120 definitely. But even, you know, runners, I 1038 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,520 mean, it's much more difficult to endure. 1039 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,080 And we're not sprinters. The Bible doesn't tell us to 1040 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,240 Sprint with an, you know, our race. 1041 00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:20,040 It says to run your race with endurance, which means it's not 1042 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,640 go, go, go, go, stop for a long time because you're burned out 1043 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,920 and then go, go, go pedal to the metal and the stock. 1044 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,640 You're burned out. That's not what the Bible tells 1045 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,480 us, but that's what we've been fed, yes. 1046 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:31,600 I was just looking up the Scripture really quick and 1047 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,240 James, this is another one that really just set me free. 1048 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,680 And it says right here, it says this is the amplified classic 1049 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,920 version. And it says confess to one 1050 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,400 another, therefore your faults, your slips, your false steps, 1051 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,920 your offenses. That's where I was. 1052 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,080 I had a lot of offense and pray for one another that you may be 1053 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,880 healed and restored to a spiritual tone of mind and 1054 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,920 heart. And then it goes on to say the 1055 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,160 earnest, heartfelt, continued prayer of a righteous man makes 1056 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,760 tremendous power available. And that's James 5/16. 1057 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,720 Thank you for that, James 516 writing that one down. 1058 00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:14,440 Yeah, that's really good. And I I do love that scripture. 1059 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,120 That's so good. But it's also more difficult to 1060 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,160 do than to, you know, than we think. 1061 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,560 I'm I'm an open book. You're going to hear. 1062 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,240 OK, Catherine, she's got some problems, right? 1063 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:27,440 Like you're going to hear me tell everybody I'm like, hey, 1064 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,240 listen, but not in a complaining way or anything like that 1065 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:31,400 anymore. I did used to. 1066 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,120 I've so resonated when he said that. 1067 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,640 Yeah, I was like, wow, that's really true. 1068 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,480 When I had, when I broke free from that victim mentality, one 1069 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,720 of the major things that the Lord showed me was the reason I 1070 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,960 had it was because of pity. I needed attention some way and 1071 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,480 that was the only way that I could find that I would get it. 1072 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,360 And it was just awful. And because I really was a 1073 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,960 victim too, really was seriously a victim, it fed that even more. 1074 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,320 And so I really had to break free from that and release that 1075 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,240 way of thinking And and that took a process, but it was 1076 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,000 journaling that helped me, journaling the truth about who I 1077 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,960 am and things like that. So we won't get into. 1078 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,080 That add something to that when you realize that you're a 1079 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,560 wounded person, the list seems long. 1080 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,640 Self pity. You're offended, you're 1081 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,640 critical, you're bitter, you're wounded. 1082 00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:19,720 They're so much. Don't be overwhelmed by that. 1083 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,560 You know, if you like, I just want to say that to to those who 1084 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,720 are listening, that if you find yourself as a wounded person, 1085 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,720 don't be overwhelmed, that there's so much other stuff 1086 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,240 that's underneath that. Just ask the Lord to heal the 1087 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:35,040 wound. It's like a deck of cards. 1088 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,160 All of that will crumble. All of that fades away. 1089 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,440 When you begin to build your identity in Christ, all of that 1090 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440 actually falls. And that's true. 1091 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,720 You know, if I were to look back and see that in my own life, 1092 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:47,680 that's true. Yeah. 1093 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,760 I had to get rid of the wound in order for the pain to stop, you 1094 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,520 know, the sepsis to go away. You had to get the infection 1095 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,360 cleaned out. It's true. 1096 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,640 Yeah. Wow, that's so good. 1097 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,560 And easier said than done sometimes. 1098 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,840 I think for some women, it does seem to be something that we can 1099 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,840 kind of do on our own with the Lord. 1100 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,560 And other times we need somebody to hold our hand to start the 1101 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,160 process or even walk through to the completion of it. 1102 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,080 Sometimes it just depends on the person. 1103 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,320 But I love that you just empower women in this way that there's 1104 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,880 more, you know, if they desire so desire that there's more and 1105 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,240 not that being a stay at home mom or homeschool mom isn't 1106 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,000 enough or you're not doing something wonderful. 1107 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,720 No, you are. But if you have that, if God's, 1108 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,680 you know, touched you and said, like we're wakening something in 1109 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,520 you now and you're dealing with all this stuff, that's what you 1110 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,720 help them to overcome and, you know, get through. 1111 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,440 So I love that. And, you know, experience is our 1112 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,600 best teacher. And I think that people who have 1113 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,880 been through a lot are some of the best teachers because they 1114 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,400 get it. You're very well equipped to 1115 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,600 help women walking through any season of their life to really 1116 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,360 come from where they are to where they want to be, 1 little 1117 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,440 step at a time. So that's incredible. 1118 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,640 I'd like to know, as we kind of wrap up today, how are you 1119 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,440 actively standing on or fighting for the promises of God in your 1120 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,240 life? Yes. 1121 00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,240 So it's daily, I have a list of scriptures. 1122 00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:10,080 So if I'm going through a certain situation, whether it's 1123 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,120 financial, whether it's health, whether it's even being a mom, 1124 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,640 whether it's wanting growth or impact, whatever it is, I, I 1125 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,640 write out a few scriptures and I leave them by my bed stand. 1126 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,880 And at night right before I go to bed, I'll just read them 1127 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,680 because the word of God is powerful. 1128 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,520 It says it, it says it's powerful and it's sharper than 1129 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,560 any double edged sword. And so that's what I do. 1130 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,400 I just stand on scripture. It, I know a lot of people are 1131 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,400 like, well, that just sounds so cliche or whatever, but it's 1132 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,400 powerful. And I've seen the Word of God 1133 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,360 come to life in my own life and in the life of others around me 1134 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,640 just by standing on it, declaring those scriptures. 1135 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,640 Yeah, it's really interesting that you mentioned that you do 1136 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,520 it at night too. And if you don't know you, you 1137 00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,120 may know this, but for anybody else who may not know that, you 1138 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,880 know when we're going to sleep at night, that's the best time 1139 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,040 to do this. So the enemy's smart, right? 1140 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,560 Like he's only smart because he studies our behaviors and our 1141 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,360 patterns and these phones that we have all the time with us, 1142 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,080 all that all the time, we usually go to bed like 1143 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,080 scrolling. Most people, I wouldn't say 1144 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,280 everybody, but most people go to bed scrolling. 1145 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,960 And so they waste that precious night time. 1146 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,200 It's amazing. It's like this magic, night time 1147 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,680 magic. I don't believe in that, but you 1148 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,200 know what I mean? You know, night time, it's just 1149 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,160 a beautiful thing that we can access in our brain. 1150 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,360 So when you are standing on scripture, what you're doing is 1151 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,400 you're believing that this is what it is. 1152 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,920 But in order to program your mind to believe that this is 1153 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,520 what it is, you're doing it at the best time because that right 1154 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,760 before you go to sleep, your Theta in your brain, which is 1155 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,320 that brain wave, the Theta brain waves starts to activate, which 1156 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,840 is really only activated seriously all the time, you 1157 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,640 know, from birth to seven. And then it starts to kind of go 1158 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,640 away as being active and it becomes your subconscious. 1159 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,880 So you are doing it right before bed. 1160 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,200 You're really programming your brain to believe that new 1161 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,920 thought or that new idea or scripture, whatever it is. 1162 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,560 So for those of us who are big affirmation people, the 1163 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,720 affirmation could be the scripture or it could be 1164 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,800 something else. But whatever that affirmation 1165 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,280 is, when you say it to yourself, you can say at one time or 10 1166 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,080 times or for a whole minute in a row, whatever you want to do. 1167 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,000 But right before you drift off to sleep, your subconscious is 1168 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,680 going to grab a hold of it and it will be solidified in your 1169 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,680 brain when you're doing it at that time. 1170 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,280 So this is the best time to do it. 1171 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,120 And it's definitely not cliche. The scripture is a, it's alive, 1172 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,640 it's breathing and moving. And when people say, well, 1173 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,360 that's just a history book, you know, how's that relevant today? 1174 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,440 I'm like you, are you filled with the Holy Spirit? 1175 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,840 Because that's what makes it come to life. 1176 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,680 But it is. It is a living, breathing word 1177 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,080 of God. And then he can give us a new 1178 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,400 word today, too, of course. But that still stands. 1179 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,240 Wow. This has been such a meaty 1180 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,920 conversation that I have so thoroughly enjoyed and couldn't 1181 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,320 continue it on forever. But I know it's summer, so your 1182 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,360 kids probably are like, mom, what are you doing? 1183 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,160 But I would. Yeah. 1184 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,680 But I would really love it if you could just share for a 1185 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,680 minute how listeners can connect with you, your coaching or grab 1186 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,520 a copy of your book. Yeah, absolutely. 1187 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,240 So you can find me at Looks Like Home with kelly.com. 1188 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,000 I have all of my resources up there, ways to get a hold of me, 1189 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,960 my coaching YouTube channel, even recipes like I throw some 1190 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,560 of our home cooked meal recipes, some of our yummies on there as 1191 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,960 well. So that's the best way to get a 1192 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,720 hold of me. That's exciting and I will link 1193 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,040 all of that for easy access for all of you in the show notes. 1194 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,560 That way you can just click and go find out all the things that 1195 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,800 is Kelly Campbell and how she might be able to serve you and 1196 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,520 help you in the next season of your life, and you can learn 1197 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,840 some things from her. Thanks for being here, Kelly. 1198 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,160 Thank you for having me, Catherine. 1199 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,120 I've enjoyed it. Thanks for tuning in today, 1200 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,360 friend. If this episode encouraged you 1201 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,400 or gave you something to think about, would you take a moment 1202 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,080 and leave a review or share it with someone who needs it too? 1203 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,040 It means the world. And remember, this journey isn't 1204 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,520 about pushing harder. It's about letting go of what's 1205 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,280 been weighing you down so that you can run your race with 1206 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,600 endurance and lead with the freedom, clarity and peace God 1207 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,960 designed for you. You were never meant to carry it 1208 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,160 all. You were meant to run free. 1209 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,680 I'll see you in the next one.