1 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:23,360 used to love doggy chow. I used to love doggy chow too. 2 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Do you know how many leather jackets with poppers and a cock 3 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,520 ring in the left pocket we've got back here? 4 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:37,760 I'm Crystal. No more Neve Campbell, I'm baby 5 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,960 lame. And welcome to Camp Classics. 6 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,440 A thoughtful podcast about stupid movies. 7 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Or, you know, just a podcast where we find out how many 8 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,840 movies about a small town girl with big city dreams we can 9 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,040 watch. I had high hopes for this one 10 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,640 crystal. I think this was your idea. 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,000 It was my idea, Yeah. And I well, we'll get. 12 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,960 We'll get into it, won't we? I mean, I'm surprised I'm alive 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,480 right now because your club night killed me. 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,120 I. Look pretty good for a dead 15 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,160 bitch. I had the worst outbreak of 16 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,520 facial herpes that I've ever had in my life. 17 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Cold sores is what we like to call it, but let's be real, I 18 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,600 had herpes all over my fucking lips. 19 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,840 That's how you. Crusty, sore mouth, ulcers, 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,560 tongue grows down to you. Disgusting. 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,040 Gosh, you're you're just like Ryan Philippine this movie 54. 22 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,240 Oh no, I'm someone else in this movie and we'll get to it. 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,520 I felt very triggered watching this movie with my facial herpes 24 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,760 and I felt I felt, I felt like the people that couldn't get 25 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,840 into the club Crystal and. I. 26 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,640 Felt triggered I was in my fields. 27 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,800 This has been an emotional roller coaster for me. 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,720 I'm just having a flashback to a night we went out in Athens. 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Didn't you get chased by a pack of wild dogs? 30 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,480 What does trauma really look? Like, not chased, I was left 31 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:10,120 outside of a night an outdoor rave by you and was circulated 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,320 by some wild dogs as I woke. Up. 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,600 So which would you rather have, pack of wild dogs or facial 34 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,160 herpes? This is what trauma looks like. 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,640 But yes, that's what I've been. That's where I've been at. 36 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:23,280 How have you been? Yeah, really good. 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,920 Really good, Yeah. Just really great. 38 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:28,800 Actually, I had AI had such a fun time at Get a grip and you 39 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,840 know, no, not a Herpe insight. That probably means I didn't 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,240 have as much fun as you to be honest. 41 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,320 Oh, I wish. I wish that's what I was doing. 42 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:41,000 No, no. I think I was just like talking 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,800 to a corner of a wall or something. 44 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,080 We've also we've done our BFI live screening since we last 45 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,720 recorded. Together. 46 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,960 Apparently it's talk of the town. 47 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,640 I was at the BFI that they're still talking about the event 48 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,960 and some people can't believe that Kindergarten Cop is deemed 49 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,520 now a camp classic. I also saw Peaches Christ and 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,640 she was like that's not a fucking camp classic. 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Really well. According to our listeners, 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,360 Peaches. What was her argument against? 53 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,320 I just think she just, it's just not one of the root 1 ones, is 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,480 it? But we're not here to just. 55 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,120 No, we know. We know. 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Yes, we know. Yes, we can't. 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,320 All not every movie can have mink store. 58 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,840 I'll tell you what you just performed. 59 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,320 With I did just with Mink style. Thank you for dropping that one. 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,760 But yeah, that panel that we had on that episode was brilliant. 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Yeah, one more time for Juno, Travis and Charlie. 62 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,960 That's how you do it, yeah. Just three very different trans 63 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,080 people. Very different and meanwhile 64 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,440 we're the 2 drunk aunties with them. 65 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,440 I was so drunk. You were. 66 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Pissed BF fly is what I kept on calling. 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,480 You were BF fly. You were BF flying. 68 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Yeah, I was so drunk. That's what happens when you're 69 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,680 nervous and you make me do these things that I don't want to do. 70 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,800 So weird to see you nervous, I said to you. 71 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,280 I've never seen you nervous before a gig before. 72 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,280 I was nervous and then I was the flip, wasn't I? 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Yeah. And then you turned into like a 74 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,000 kind of Wendy Williams style. How you doing? 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,000 I really did. I'm so. 76 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Sorry, you did great. I was like, you're. 77 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Right in the inner went to William came out. 78 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,880 It was great though. You're like you suddenly just 79 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,760 relaxed into it and then it's like, Oh no, someone's produced 80 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,640 chat shows for TVA lot and you were just like, so in your 81 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,280 element. It was great. 82 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:40,640 I. Was happy with both of us. 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,160 I think we did a really good job considering it was our first one 84 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,280 and it was a huge black, yeah. But you can listen to that 85 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:51,640 episode now it's out and the audio does suck, but the content 86 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,800 is excellent. It's. 87 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,880 Like it's like, please, let's not get get rid of this one. 88 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,240 Let's just make it work. Deal with it. 89 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,560 We did an event at the BFI and we're gonna tell people about 90 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:02,720 it. You. 91 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Will listen. I mean, that's just like the 92 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,280 rules of feminism. Just this is nothing related to 93 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:11,640 nothing but I was while I was researching 54 today, I saw this 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,760 click bait headline. Liz Hurley defends lesbian sex 95 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,720 scene a new movie that was directed by her son. 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,040 Sounds like we've got some watching to do coming out. 97 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,120 I mean. Damian Hurley is giving. 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,960 She is the diva. Yeah. 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,680 Wow, that face it's giving. Yeah. 100 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,680 What is? It's kind of she's got like an 101 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,040 Aphrodite, Helen of Troy sort of thing going on. 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,600 I love it. She's so pretty. 103 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640 I'm here for it. I'm here for it so much and 104 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,240 like, I mean just imagine being like a glam mum actress and just 105 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,840 being like I'm not getting naked. 106 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:51,520 I'm not scissoring that actress until my son tells me the exact 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,360 angle that he wants. Darling, make sure the 108 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,560 lighting's OK. I bet, but The thing is, he 109 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,200 knows her angle so well. You know he's holding the camera 110 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,520 whenever she's in a bikini. It's. 111 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Like it's a match made in heaven. 112 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,600 Yeah, it's perfect. And like, you know, it's like 113 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,200 sometimes you, you, when you find these people that know how 114 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,600 to get you just right or you've got to stick with. 115 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,760 Them, and if that person was worth by you, all the better. 116 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaking of match made in heaven, I just bought us tickets 117 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,640 to a combo I never thought I would see on stage together. 118 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,880 Gina Gershon and Cate Blanchett in conversation. 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,240 Oh, you mean the gays, not the gays. 120 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,960 And it's Kate interviewing Gina, isn't it? 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Yeah, but when you told me I was like, what the fuck? 122 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,080 What the fuck? You have been scammed. 123 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,960 There's no such event. Apparently they've been friends 124 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,080 for years. I can't fucking wait. 125 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,200 Honestly, what are they going to talk about? 126 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,600 I don't care. I don't care either. 127 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,560 I. Literally don't care. 128 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,200 I don't care either. I God, should we go like, should 129 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,280 we go dressed as like crystal and and what's your face from 130 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:16,320 Lord of the Rings? Yeah, Yeah, we did. 131 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,040 Anyway, that's great. It's really, it's really tickled 132 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,160 me today. That's very funny. 133 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Down to business, though, we, yeah, like to welcome our new 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:33,520 Gatreon members, Heather Dune, Joe Brown, Eve Frankenstein and 135 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,440 and Nick. Frankenstein. 136 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,840 That's her name and Nikki Craig. Nikki Craig these. 137 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,000 These sound like made-up maybe? They're real. 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,960 People are. You starting to pay for the 139 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Gatreon? Yourself and. 140 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,000 Then just making massaging. The numbers, yeah. 141 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,080 And then I put the money into a garbage bag and stick it into a 142 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,040 roof tile. Yeah, but welcome. 143 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Welcome. We have a Gatreon. 144 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,280 It's £4 a month. You get a bonus episode every 145 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:03,120 month. And our last episode was I can't 146 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,440 remember. I can't remember either. 147 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,880 Party Girl. Party girl, brilliant, but also 148 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,680 as well, I feel party girl with all of the kind of Wheeling and 149 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,600 dealing you you're doing God knows what's going to be on the 150 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,960 next episode because it is going free full at the moment. 151 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,120 It's like, sure, let's do something live at the be a 152 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,640 fight. Let's get Lorraine. 153 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Oh, you, you're a director of a film. 154 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,840 I'll talk to you also. Interviewing. 155 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,400 The other thing I feel like really, really battered my 156 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,720 confidence was you interviewing Jordan. 157 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,360 Yeah, children person, because the camp classics like views on 158 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,840 reels, like, Oh my God, went stratospheric compared to what 159 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,159 we normally get. And then you've got my one with 160 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,440 you, like the one before, and it's like on 380 views. 161 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,880 And then it's like, OK, I get it. 162 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,560 I'm old, I'm ugly, and I'm not popular. 163 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,880 Trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma. 164 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,000 You just don't have the reach of Attitude magazine, but that's 165 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,760 OK. Yeah, she's doing junkets now. 166 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,680 Yeah, well, we'll see if I get another one. 167 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,800 It was fun though, you know, gay stuff with gay people. 168 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,680 Media. Media, yes, I love. 169 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,960 I saw a comment on it and it was like, they all seem high and I'm 170 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,040 here for it and I was like, that's brilliant. 171 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,760 And I wasn't high, I was just stressed, yeah. 172 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,920 You were very stressed. What's because you weren't in 173 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,000 control of it? Were you Just wheeled in? 174 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,920 Correct. It was like going to like job 175 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,960 interview, but like, I guess it's like an audition where 176 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,000 you'd have to perform, but also everyone's really bored and 177 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 tired and grumpy. Yeah, I guess that's like an 178 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,080 audition. I've never auditioned for 179 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,200 things. I can't use you if you can't 180 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,240 smile. I can't use you if you can't 181 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,120 show. I can't use you if you can't 182 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,960 sell. We're now on YouTube. 183 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:49,160 We've we were already on YouTube, but now there's video 184 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,120 on YouTube and also I think on Spotify. 185 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,400 The camera is over there. The camera loves you, baby. 186 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,040 Now do more things to the camera just because we're on. 187 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Or would you prefer us to just be like speaking normally, or 188 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,760 would you like us to point out Louise, sing out. 189 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,840 Louise, sing out. I think just occasionally a 190 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,440 little nip, OK nip slip just for the people who are watching at. 191 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,440 Home OK, it might just be a full move at the moment. 192 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,040 But but yeah, you can watch us live. 193 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,560 I'd be interested to know if you are watching because it's a 194 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:25,840 whole other editing process and I don't know if it's worth it. 195 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,840 So let us know if you watch if you watch the video. 196 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Oh, and then we've had some comments. 197 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,920 Eve says I just joined the Gay Tron to suggest either 1980s 198 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Flash Gordon or 1984's Voyage of the Rock aliens. 199 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,000 I'm not familiar with the second one, but Flash Gordon is. 200 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,560 I think it's on our list already. 201 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:45,200 If it's not, it should. Be. 202 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,320 Yeah. I mean, it's a miracle some of 203 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,920 these other films have been getting on True. 204 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,600 It feels like a good one. Amanda Paul says on Baby Limbs 205 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,480 comment about adding to the Gayatrion. 206 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:57,720 You could add a new level that includes live rewatches of your 207 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,880 camp faves. Yeah, I'm here for that just so 208 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,720 you you can work out. A whole new technology, live 209 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,920 streaming. That'd be fun though. 210 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,360 Just like Gogglebox, we'll look into it. 211 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,480 Katie says this is a nice message. 212 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Hi Crystal and Babylame, and thank you for an irresistible 213 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,640 podcast. It has become my treat and an 214 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,680 escape after a hard day's work on my dissertation, which is 215 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:23,360 also about movies, but a lot less fun. 216 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,000 Really enjoy the combo of sightful and insightful 217 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,560 analysis, bitchy jokes and warmth. 218 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,400 I would love to hear more conversations about sexy plant 219 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,600 monsters like the ones in 1986's Little Shop of Horrors or Men in 220 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,480 Black 2. Little Shop of Horrors will be 221 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:37,760 fun. That's. 222 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,400 A kink there, yeah. Sexy plant you get to. 223 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Pay for that while you are on the Patreon. 224 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,240 So you are but like. Yeah, the sexy is an interesting 225 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,120 addition there. It's. 226 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,000 What kind of plants do you want us to talk about? 227 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,560 Is it kind of like tentacle porn? 228 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,000 You know what I mean? I feel like plant porn, tentacle 229 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,680 porn is kind of related. Or is it like those AI videos of 230 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:57,680 like the tomato cheating on the cobbled corn? 231 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,200 Oh, I haven't seen. That the gassy tomato. 232 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,560 I haven't seen that it gets kicked out of her house for 233 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:08,000 being too gassy. OK, wow. 234 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,320 OK. You're going to need a few more 235 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,920 junkets to occupy your time, I think. 236 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,160 Another comment from Suzanne, this is about Troop Beverly 237 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,240 Hills. Knowing this film was in the 238 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,160 queue, I bought it from the library recently. 239 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,720 Hello library party girl. Hello. 240 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,680 And I was very curious to what you 2 would have to say. 241 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,240 Of course, my main take away from the episode is you have to 242 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 lay it low and spread it wide. Good. 243 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,160 Yes, you're paying attention, Suzanne, for the suggestion 244 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,400 sack. Why not skip past the 80s and go 245 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,360 all the way back to the 50s? Is some like it hot camp? 246 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Yeah. We haven't done anything that 247 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,680 old. I just feel like there isn't 248 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:48,480 necessarily an audience for that stuff, but I would like to like 249 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,680 we need to do. Something cold. 250 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Yeah. I know what you're going to say. 251 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,040 All about you. Yeah. 252 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,480 I was thinking we should do The Wicked Stepmother, which was her 253 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,360 last film where she had a stroke and she walked out and she 254 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,080 didn't. So then they had to like, change 255 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,920 the story. Like she's only got like 20 256 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,160 minutes of footage. Oh shit, yeah, it's. 257 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,240 Terrible, though it's quite funny, I didn't see it for a 258 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,160 while. Oh, lastly, we had a lot of 259 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,640 people send us the remake possibility of Troop Beverly 260 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Hills starring Cameron Diaz. Did you see this story? 261 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Oh, is she doing it? Cameron Diaz is attached to a 262 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,760 Troop Beverly Hills remake I don't think we need. 263 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,920 It I thought she retired. No, she came back. 264 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,040 I know, but I thought she but her whole thing was that she 265 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,360 retired from Hollywood. No, but she came back. 266 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,760 She's had her. She's had her like. 267 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Don't need her now. No, we could use a Charlie's 268 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,760 Angels three. Really. 269 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,480 Yeah, I'd take it. We've had. 270 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,040 We've had it with the reboot. Yeah, no, to skip past that, 271 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,400 give me Lucy. Drew Barrymore. 272 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,720 I just, yes, I'll take it you're, you're excited about 273 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,560 Madonna's confessions too. It's the same shit. 274 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,640 I don't wouldn't say I'm excited. 275 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,560 I thought it seems all right. Yeah, I mean. 276 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,440 I've not seen her in concert. I'm not like a Madonna fan. 277 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,600 You've never seen Madonna in concert? 278 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,440 Oh wow, I think I've seen her four times. 279 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:11,760 Now he's the sad old fad. Well, I'm not sharing it to my 280 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,880 stories like every other fag I know today. 281 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,760 It feels reductive. I am excited though. 282 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Anyway, there's our business taken care of, baby. 283 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Before we go any further, what makes a Camp classic? 284 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Well, thanks for asking, Crystal. 285 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,640 A camp classic is something that will unlock queer joy. 286 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,720 In the words of our Lord Saviour Megan Fox. 287 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,920 I want to get a weddy. It needs to be stupid. 288 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,120 It needs to have an ongoing legacy that informs queer pop 289 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,200 culture and ultimately it needs to be anti mainstream underdog 290 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,720 flop vibes that can be reclaimed by the F slurs. 291 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,280 Why? Why are you laughing? 292 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Because I'm just like, why don't you just use the same reading 293 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,600 out every time? Because I just say it the same 294 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,960 intonation. I'm just like just just do us 295 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,320 all a favour and just like have it as a built in sound. 296 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,600 Maybe I should do that. Yeah, reductive and. 297 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,120 I'm killing this episode, by the way. 298 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,880 Literally. Yeah, sorry. 299 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,320 It's really the bar is already very low. 300 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Just trying to make it so you don't need to edit around the 301 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,520 coughs, but it's hard. Thank you. 302 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Today we are covering. Boring. 303 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Oh Jesus, 5454 the movie 54 though this was your idea, you 304 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,720 pitched it to me. Blame for this actually Attitude 305 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,840 magazine, and I know you've got like lots of big ties with them, 306 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:54,360 but it was on some list that they wrote maybe like five years 307 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,320 ago about camp films. And they're like, it's like the 308 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,400 male showgirls. And I was like, oh, this sounds 309 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,920 good. And then I've showed you, didn't 310 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,240 I? Yeah, that is how you pitched it 311 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,240 to me. You called it the male 312 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,440 Showgirls. And then at an afters after my 313 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,480 club night, I was talking to my friend Erica from Berlin, who's 314 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,680 very cool, and she said 54 is her favorite movie. 315 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,120 And I was like, OK, now that's 254 mentions in a couple of. 316 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,720 Weeks. Now I'm interested. 317 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,920 So we watched it on Saturday very, you know, post party 318 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,040 vibes. It was actually kind of. 319 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Perfect. I know of all time. 320 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:37,680 OK, I she's cool, but like, it's gone way down in my rating now 321 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,800 because I'd literally don't know why anyone would ever say that 322 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,760 about this film. I think I can see how it's got 323 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,600 an appeal along the alongside, like a burlesque, for example. 324 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,240 Some light fare, you know. But now I this is where I need 325 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,880 to ask you. You'd never had. 326 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,000 You never seen it before? I had seen it before when I was 327 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,600 like a teenager and I remember being a bit like meh about it, 328 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,480 but that's before knowing anything about Studio 54. 329 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,640 Yeah, right. I had never seen it. 330 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:10,240 I remember like the cover really well. 331 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,760 Like I remember the marketing around it. 332 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:15,000 I can picture Neve Campbell on that and Mike Myers on that 333 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,680 movie. It's like Weinstein top power, 334 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,400 isn't it? But which version did you watch 335 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,800 for this? Wow I watched the extended 336 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,880 version which I bought was the director's cut but no it's just 337 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,080 slightly longer. So I think the version I watched 338 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,280 was like they still didn't want to make it homo but they just 339 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,400 made it a bit longer but they didn't really add any. 340 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Interesting. So yeah, this movie has two 341 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,440 versions. There's the theatrical version. 342 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,400 Well, I guess 3, actually, yeah, because there is the extended 343 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,960 cut, the theatrical version, but then there's the director's cut, 344 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:55,600 which got released in 2015. And now I've watched both, so I 345 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,600 can tell you all about the differences and they're so 346 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,720 different, really. Yeah, I saw like a deleted clip. 347 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,680 We'll get to it on YouTube, but. So this movie was written and 348 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,960 directed by Mark Christopher, who is a gay man, and he spent 349 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,400 five years researching the club and working on a screenplay. 350 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,440 It was bought by Miramax, Harvey Weinstein, all of that shit. 351 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,480 It stars Ryan. Philippi, it turns out, is the 352 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,040 pronunciation. He stars as Shane. 353 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,400 We've got Salma Hayek as Anita, Mike Myers as Studio 54's owner 354 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Steve Rebel, Breckin Meyer as Greg, and Nevada Campbell as 355 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,080 soap star Julie Black. Boo. 356 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,880 Yeah, I mean, you suggested enough. 357 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,000 You can't escape her. She's on. 358 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,800 She's following you around. Soon we'll be out of Nevada 359 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Campbell movies, and then you'll be free. 360 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,600 I don't think there's many left, to be honest with you. 361 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,640 I think we've covered nearly every Nevada. 362 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:58,640 Film or Dolly Parton, but we've done 4-5 Nevada Campbell films. 363 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,080 So the movie had a budget of roughly $13 million, and they 364 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,800 screened it in early 98 on Long Island for teenagers. 365 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Audiences at the screening reacted negatively to the lead 366 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,760 characters bisexuality, particularly to a scene where 367 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:19,320 Shane and Greg kiss, and so that led Miramax to demand a recut, 368 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,040 which removed all of the bisexuality stuff. 369 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,120 There was a lot of fallout between the director and Harvey 370 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:32,360 Weinstein and eventually the director agreed to reshoot, but 371 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:35,000 he got no control over the final cut and he wasn't even allowed 372 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,480 to see the editing process. Overall, 40 minutes was cut from 373 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,760 the theatrical version and 30 minutes was re added of 374 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,320 reshoots. So it's basically over 1/3 of a 375 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,920 different movie, which is crazy. It's like, yeah, yeah. 376 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,200 So a lot of this is because obviously Harvey Weinstein is a 377 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,840 fucking disgusting prick, but it's actually probably mostly 378 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,560 because the movie had Neve Campbell and Ryan Felipe in it 379 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,840 and he had just done. I know what you did last summer 380 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,920 and was suddenly a kind of an IT name, right? 381 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,680 And so that had come out while they were shooting this and I 382 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,880 realized. She's still in her kind of 383 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,600 Golden Girl era. She would scream to it just been 384 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,920 a hit and they were like, oh, she's bankable now. 385 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,160 Oh yeah, because and that's basically what they do with her 386 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,960 in this film. Isn't like she's she's whacked 387 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,800 in as just like. Yeah, yeah. 388 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,320 So she goes from basically a glorified cameo in the 389 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,960 director's version to, like, a proper sort of love interest in 390 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,440 the theatrical version. They've amped her up. 391 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,880 They've removed any of Ryan Felipe's character's bisexuality 392 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,880 in order to appeal more to a teen audience. 393 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:52,480 And, well, it didn't work because the critics hated it. 394 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,800 It has 15% on Rotten Tomatoes, and it only made $17 million at 395 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,160 the box office. It was a flop, flop, flop, flop, 396 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,000 flop. Ryan Felipe was nominated for 397 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,040 Razzie. And yeah, it was basically kind 398 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,960 of forgotten until a director's cut began circulating. 399 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,400 And this was in kind of the mid 2000s. 400 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,520 It it like a unauthorized version screened at, I think, 401 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,000 Tribeca Film Festival or something. 402 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:25,200 And and then that started this buzz and demand until Mark 403 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,720 Christopher was actually given permission from Miramax to 404 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,600 release his version. They found all the old footage, 405 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,320 recut it together and it showed at Berlin Film Festival in 2015. 406 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,560 But it's interesting watching the director's version because 407 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,160 some of the footage they've had to just RIP from VHS copies. 408 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,520 And so it's really grainy and weird and the dimensions are off 409 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,960 and like you can, you can really see like chop between and like 410 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,960 some of it they were able to salvage and it's looks the same 411 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,000 or just the grating's a bit different, but some of it's like 412 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,880 proper like rough looking. That's really interesting, isn't 413 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,920 it? Yeah, I would say I have. 414 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Questions for when we get to comparing them. 415 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,520 But I would say listen. Out though, because they're 416 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,960 coming, but we're going to just tease that moment now. 417 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,200 Should we get into the plot? Yeah. 418 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,600 So I will try and like differentiate the. 419 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,520 The thing between the two versions is that like so many of 420 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,880 the scenes are even just completely out of order that it 421 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,960 gets very very difficult to like compare. 422 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,280 Right, but. I'm going to do my best. 423 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,880 There's like a few key things that are like the key 424 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,480 differences that that kind of matter. 425 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,280 What I will say is at the start of the movie I saw, I was 426 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,800 excited because it's like the premise of the film about Studio 427 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,280 54 is just, you know, we've anybody who is remotely 428 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,040 interested in pop culture is aware of like the incredible 429 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,400 reference points that like legend, like the iconography 430 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,160 from this place and like the music alone. 431 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,160 Like it was kind of like I was, I was thinking, even if it's 432 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,280 terrible, this is going to be like. 433 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,520 Yeah, thinking of all of the the stuff that happened there that's 434 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,440 going to be referenced. And I just was like, even if 435 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,240 it's bad, it's just going to be fun. 436 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Totally. I actually prepared a very short 437 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,160 game for you. Oh, it's called Studio 54 or 438 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Studio 50. No. 439 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,200 Or OK. Did these things happen in 440 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,600 studio? Did these things happen in 441 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,280 Studio 54? OK, starting with an obvious 442 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,040 one. Bianca Jagger riding a White 443 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,360 Horse. It happened. 444 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,000 How dare you even ask me that? It's just. 445 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,920 Just warming you up. Play at home though. 446 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,760 Dead body in an air vent from someone trying to sneak into the 447 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,000 club. Yes. 448 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Studio 54 Dolly Parton after party with live farm animals. 449 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Yes, yes. When it was raided eventually 450 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,040 they found $600,000 in garbage bags and 300 Quaalude pills. 451 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Yes, yes, a Republican US Senator was photographed here 452 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,920 with gay prostitutes and had to resign in shame, but it probably 453 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,800 happened. Yeah, I mean, this is it, isn't 454 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,120 it? Like, yeah, this is the place of 455 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:21,160 dreams come true. This is like nightlife born 456 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,840 berserk. This is. 457 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,800 Yeah, yeah, I also saw that they one night wheeled in 4 tons of 458 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,880 glitter so that the entire dance floor was like sand but made of 459 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,240 glitter. I do wonder though, do you think 460 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,280 if we had Studio 54 as it was then, like we would enjoy it, or 461 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,280 do we think it would be like the box and just be this thing where 462 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,280 like super rich people are like sort of just praying on queer 463 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,160 and subcultures as their little freak show farm? 464 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,440 Good question. I don't know, maybe. 465 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Somewhere between. Yeah, because I feel like, I 466 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,040 don't know how true it is, but I feel like part of the the way 467 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,520 the atmosphere was, they would let in people that had no money 468 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,360 as well to kind of have a good time, wouldn't they? 469 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:06,240 Yeah. And maybe there's also an 470 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,880 element of, like, these cultures were emerging here a bit. 471 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:18,400 So like, disco was coming up, drugs, drug use, like, like 472 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,560 ecstasy was coming up. Like maybe that was all just 473 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,000 kind of fresh and exciting for people. 474 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,800 And gay rights, Gay rights because it does feel like with 475 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,280 the box, a bit like there is a sense of people trying to create 476 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,040 a hedonistic atmosphere. And everything you hear about 477 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,160 Studio Fit 4 is like, it just actually was that. 478 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,600 That's what I hope. And also the balcony, the orgy 479 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,000 balcony and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 480 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,760 OK, Hopefully, hopefully. So yeah, this movie opens. 481 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,720 The director's cut opens and it's Ryan Felipe on cold on the 482 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,440 street wrapping himself in a bin bag. 483 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,760 And he's provided a new voice over for this version 20 years 484 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,280 later. So it's 40 year old Ryan Felipe 485 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,840 explaining and he's giving a voice over about like, you know, 486 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,960 I bet you're wondering how I got here kind of vibes. 487 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,640 The version I watched, Wig. Yeah, Wig. 488 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,840 And I was like, I've, you know, because we've just seen some 489 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,800 like stock footage of original Studio 54 and then I'm seeing my 490 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,680 male Naomi Malone in a shit wig. Wig. 491 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,840 Did you just say wig? Yes. 492 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Oh, you mean when he's still got his long hair? 493 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,720 Yeah, yes. And I'm just like, I've sat 494 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,920 there like. Great. 495 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:30,640 You better be a beat by beat male version of Show Girls, 496 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,360 yeah. Yeah, it's the summer of 79 and 497 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:37,960 we meet 19 year old American Shane O'Shea, who lives in 498 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,000 Jersey City, Jersey. He's with his he lives with his 499 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,440 widowed conservative father and two younger sisters. 500 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,840 And yeah, he's got a wig on. This is not the only wig Ryan 501 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Felipe will wear in this movie, because also in all of the 502 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,240 reshoots, he's got a wig of his own hair. 503 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,200 I am ready for my wig to go flying. 504 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,440 I hope it does go flying out of this room. 505 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,200 So he's got a wig of his own hair. 506 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,680 Yeah, so because when? Because when they did the 507 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,720 reshoots, it was only like a month before the movie opened. 508 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,360 And so he'd had his hair cut. And so they had to get a wig to 509 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,320 match his hair from the movie. Yeah. 510 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,720 And you can. And you can see it. 511 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,920 You can see it. He also apparently was 512 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,080 complaining about it because he was like, I was in really good 513 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,600 shape when we filmed this movie. And then they asked me to come 514 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,600 back six months later, and I hadn't been working out. 515 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,240 And, like, now I'm back in those tiny little shorts with a wig of 516 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,560 my own hair on, trying to, like, sell the same character. 517 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,920 Bless him. But yeah. 518 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,680 So he's, he's weary of his working class existence, isn't 519 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,840 he? And he can see the big city over 520 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,120 the river. And he just wants to get to 521 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,400 Manhattan and make it so far, so familiar. 522 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,960 It's a tale as old as time. So one night, he persuades his 523 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,880 two friends to accompany him to Studio 54. 524 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,240 Can I? Also just interrupt because he 525 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,320 is a bit of a douchebag as well because he's like fucking that 526 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,960 woman in the car and he basically just comes on her and 527 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,240 it were like, he's just like a douchebag. 528 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,600 Yeah, he no wonder she's just like, get off me. 529 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,840 It's like, fair enough. Does she say did you finish 530 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,040 already? Yeah, it's actually like. 531 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,480 That isn't in the director's cut funny enough, but yeah. 532 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 There needs to be like another cut that incorporates all of the 533 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,560 good. Maybe there's a good film here 534 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,800 somewhere. Yeah, well, I'll, I'll, I'll 535 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,400 tease, but I think that there is. 536 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,000 Yeah, he's a. He's A at best a dum dum and at 537 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,200 worst a full on douche. But he's fit. 538 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,600 Yeah, he is hot. So that is how he gets in. 539 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,000 We go to Studio 54, he's convinced his friends to come. 540 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,080 And Shane is so hot that Steve Rebel, Mike Myers lets him in. 541 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,880 But he says not with that shirt. I said not with that shirt. 542 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:03,480 And so Ryan takes off his shirt and the whole crowd cheers and 543 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,720 he gets into the club. I mean, I quite enjoyed that. 544 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,000 It was great, also the parade of models and like gladiators 545 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,240 walking into the club, it was fab. 546 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,520 Yeah, I was here for it. Definitely here for it. 547 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,240 Yeah, it was a great setup. So he gets in, his friends do 548 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680 not. Have you ever been turned away 549 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,800 from a club? I don't know if I have actually 550 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,040 have you. I turned away from Berghind the 551 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,560 first time I went. Oh, did you? 552 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,200 Yeah. I've not been as many times as 553 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,920 you, but I've never been turned away. 554 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,800 But I was shit faced in with two girls and we definitely looked 555 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280 like we were just there to be tourists. 556 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,360 Right. You know, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 557 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,880 Also one time in such as we tried to get into a club and and 558 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,120 the bouncer was like only shoes and I was like oh guys, we can't 559 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,760 get in. Some of us are in flip flops and 560 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,800 he was like, no, only shoes. And it turned out to just be a 561 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,200 naked bar. You could not. 562 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,440 You were only allowed to wear shoes. 563 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,400 And so we were turned away, but we just didn't feel like getting 564 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760 naked. Oh, you're a prude, aren't you? 565 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,480 So they basically were Ryan Felipe then in sitches. 566 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,560 Yeah. Not with those shoes, not with 567 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,880 those clothes, Yeah. Take them off Boring. 568 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,080 That could have been my moment, and then the crowd would have 569 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,480 clapped all the bears on those plastic chairs. 570 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,880 Stitches would have broken into standing. 571 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,400 Up on those plastic chairs because they'll definitely 572 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,840 break. We're in the club. 573 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,320 And. Again, I'm like, right, I'm 574 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,040 like, we are getting started and you know, it's a good club when 575 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,200 the balcony is just a big dark room, sex room. 576 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,200 And I've just like straight away I'm like, I love that it's in 577 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,880 the theatre and I love that people are just fucking. 578 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,800 So I'm like, let's go. Yeah, it looks great. 579 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,720 First major difference in the two versions. 580 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160 When in the balcony, Shane is cruised by a man on the balcony 581 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,240 and is not mad about it. Let's say he's just kind of 582 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,040 like. Oh, yeah, This man is like, oh, 583 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,320 gives him a good look over and Shane's like, gives a good look 584 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,920 back and he's like, wow. And then he watches that that 585 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,040 couple have sex. Yeah, this party's crazy. 586 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,480 Oh my God. There's a shot of him in the. 587 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,720 I think there's a shot of him here and he's lit blue and he 588 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,040 just looks gorgeous and what? I will say is by this point, I'm 589 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,720 like, I'm like the budget isn't budgeting because I want to see 590 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160 more bodies. I know what you mean because I 591 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,800 know that that kind of location in the club is going to be busy. 592 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,400 Yeah, there's going. To be a lot of people out there. 593 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880 You see the budget, I think a lot of times in this movie where 594 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,760 there's just not quite enough extras. 595 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,760 The club is never quite full enough. 596 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,520 But again, I'm kind of like when he walks over and the the woman 597 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,520 who's like riding the man's Dick, love her, and then she 598 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,880 goes straight to sort of rubbing his Dick. 599 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,000 I'm like, this happens and I'm like, yeah, let's go to it. 600 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,360 Yeah, yeah, it's very like, kind of sex positive straight away. 601 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,200 So Shane loves it. Oh my God. 602 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,360 Looks, drugs, sex, all of the things a boy could want. 603 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,040 Yeah. So, against his dad's wishes, he 604 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,200 goes back. Also, can I just, sorry to just 605 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,520 jump in here, there was a big problem with how they're just 606 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,840 trying to like hetro this film up. 607 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,720 How can you hetro up a film about disco? 608 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,360 I know it's crazy. It's crazy. 609 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,120 I. Think it's. 610 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,040 I think it's actually very camp to make a straight movie about 611 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,160 Studio 54. It makes me giggle, just like 612 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,720 the idea that you are trying to make this movie and you are so 613 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,280 hamstrung by trying to make it marketable to teenage girls. 614 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,440 It's so funny to me. The, the power of people, the 615 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,680 threat we possess, the menace. It's so great. 616 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,040 So, yeah. So it's he goes back to 54 the 617 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,160 next night against his dad's wishes, and Steve hires him as a 618 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,840 busboy. And this is another big 619 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,400 difference between the two versions. 620 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,120 Just quickly in the Directors Cup we get a clear sense that 621 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,520 the dad is a racist and a homophobe. 622 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,880 Oh, because I've got a note. That's so interesting. 623 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,080 Because I've got a note in my notebook surprisingly saying the 624 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,160 dad seems quite nice. I know. 625 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,440 I don't have a problem with that. 626 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,240 I know that was a big question mark for me because I was like, 627 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,720 normally there's something repressive. 628 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,280 There's something like wrong with the dad. 629 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,560 You know he's an alcoholic or like, you know, he's beating up 630 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,200 the family or like you said, homophone. 631 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,120 Yeah, but in the in the theatre was. 632 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,360 A good, honest dad. Yeah. 633 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,200 Interesting. So that scene where they're at 634 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,080 breakfast and he's kind of telling them about the club, 635 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,800 you're like, it kind of switches gears really fast in the 636 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280 theatrical version where you're like, why did the air come out 637 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,640 of the room? And why are they suddenly being 638 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,160 so weird? But in the director's cut, it's 639 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,040 because the dads just use the N word and and it's been like, I 640 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,960 don't want you going to that place with like all of those 641 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,960 degenerates. Oh, my God, you are pulling this 642 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,520 film back for me that literally. And also because as well, 643 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,960 there's like, lots of moments with like, Ryan Felipe and his 644 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,120 sisters and like, whether they're driving him to New York 645 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,200 and there's this kind of like they're just driving and there's 646 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,320 no conversation. And there's no sense of like, 647 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,159 you're leaving me behind. Or even when he goes back for 648 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,120 Christmas and isn't welcome. I'm like, well, why? 649 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:13,320 Are they? Why aren't you welcome? 650 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,320 Yeah, it's just Jersey. It's just across the river. 651 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,800 It's like living in packing and going to like fucking Dalston 652 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,600 for like a night out. Yeah, sorry to be London 653 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,800 centric. Everybody. 654 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,120 But yeah, it's like being in Brooklyn going upstate. 655 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,560 To Joy Z but yeah, big big difference. 656 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,480 So Shane is hired. Oh, he has sex with a model in 657 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,040 the balcony. Oh, yes, yeah. 658 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,840 First night, Good boy, good on him. 659 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,120 And you would. You would. 660 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,920 And we're jumping over Mike Myers here. 661 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,760 Oh, you've seen Mike Myers. We. 662 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,560 Have. Yeah, Shall we? 663 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,120 He's. Giving. 664 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,960 That's the line I laughed to. Myself about before. 665 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:00,360 It is though, isn't it? Creepy old man like. 666 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,680 What do you think of Mike? What do you think of his 667 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,400 performance in this movie? I don't think it's like all it's 668 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,400 cracked up to be. I mean, he's like just 669 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,560 underplaying like the role in a sense. 670 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,880 Yeah, I can't. I'm going to have to just say it 671 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,040 so many times. But yeah, there's more of him in 672 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,240 the director's version, and I think it's like quite a nuanced 673 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,600 character and it's quite interesting. 674 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,480 Unfortunately, in the theatrical version, he is just kind of like 675 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,480 a predatory gay villain. I'm not gay either. 676 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,960 I want to suck your cock. Which is also kind of camp. 677 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,760 I retract the name I said obviously. 678 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:52,200 So Shane and his dad fight some more, and so he leaves Jersey 679 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,080 City and moves in with fellow busboy Greg Breckenmeier and his 680 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,080 coatjack girl wife Anita, played by Salma Hayek, who is an 681 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,160 aspiring singer. And he's living with them in 682 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,800 Manhattan. He's leaving behind his small 683 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,640 town life, gone to the big city. Well, sorry to jump back, I've 684 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,440 just looked over my notes again. Now. 685 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,840 Now, some other things about him in the club the second night. 686 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,000 Yeah, he's fucked the model. And no matter how hard they try, 687 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,120 they cannot get away from how gay he is. 688 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,400 The fag is there. You know what, Dad? 689 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,640 You know what? Peter's gay. 690 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:29,360 Because he is so distracted by that disco diva on stage, he 691 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,240 doesn't get a hand job. And he's literally just like, 692 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,120 it's like a fake Donna Summer, isn't it? 693 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,280 Is it ultra Nate? Alternate. 694 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,000 Is it in the end, Yeah, I think it's Thelma Houston. 695 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,280 Oh. Is it actually? 696 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,640 Is it meant to be? Oh, OK. 697 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,000 Yeah, I think it actually is. But yeah, I'm just basically 698 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,160 saying the clues are there. And like so no matter how they 699 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,000 tried to edit him, he is still gay. 700 00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:01,360 Gay. Shane then meets Billy, who I 701 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,360 love. This is she's played by Cela 702 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,120 Ward and she's a record exec. The one of the first signs we 703 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,240 get from her, she's taking some coke and she says Diana helped 704 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:16,040 herself to the last of my snow. Great, great line. 705 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,320 She and Shane kind of start a relationship and she shows him 706 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,440 how to fuck. Yeah, she does. 707 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,560 Oh, you're a fast learner. Fast learner and this all. 708 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,960 Suddenly feels very Sex in the City coded to me. 709 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,000 Now I'm like it's. So true. 710 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,120 It's so true. I'm like, are we just watching? 711 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,600 Because they're like doing narration while they're having 712 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,000 sex. Yeah, and it's kind of shot in 713 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,440 the same way because it's the 90s and I'm just like, are we 714 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,440 just watching AHBOTV show now? Yeah, so he she shows him how to 715 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,680 fuck, and then, as the film puts it in the director's version, he 716 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,280 fucks her unconscious. Oh my God, he fucks her 717 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,440 unconscious. Yeah, so she then they're having 718 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,400 sex and she passes out and he then watches himself have sex 719 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,080 with her in the mirror while she's unconscious. 720 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,080 Oh. That is a bit in the extended as 721 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,120 well, but not. Yeah, but then later in the 722 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,160 director's version, she says to her friend, He fucked me 723 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560 unconscious. Now that is a showgirl's like 724 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,960 that is a showgirl's kind of line. 725 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,800 I'm here for that because I did write on my extended version 726 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,960 which isn't as graphic as yours. I did put dead question mark 727 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120 lol. It's not. 728 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,080 So it's like. Low yeah, when it first happens 729 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960 like this isn't OK he's having he's having sex with an 730 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,880 unconscious lady but then later she's clearly but she clearly 731 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,080 she was into it she. Likes it. 732 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,400 Yeah, so it was fine actually. She gets so fucking high and 733 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,280 then gets railed to the point where she can't take anymore and 734 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,880 then she's like, fuck my unconscious body bitch, I've 735 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,280 been. I want to wake up sore. 736 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:47,640 Been Austin? I tapped my hat. 737 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:55,120 Off to you, babe. I hope they use me she anyway 738 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,920 she she so is she's complaining about drugs and sex and she's 739 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,000 passing around her new toy boy. It's. 740 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,360 Passing around her unconscious body to anyone who wants to fill 741 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,680 it up. What am I here for if not to be 742 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,680 used by good people for good things? 743 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,160 So then we find out that the club owner Steve is laundering 744 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,240 loads of cash and Breckin Myers slash Greg helps him bring the 745 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,960 cash home one night. This is another pretty good 746 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,560 scene. Mike Myers says there's a new 747 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:29,080 bartender job and there's a he says no, me, there's a spot open 748 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,800 up. You want an audition. 749 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,400 And he's currently he's lying on a bed covered in cash and he 750 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,760 says you can have the bartender job if you let me blow you. 751 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,400 Greg says no. And he's like, maybe? 752 00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:50,960 Yeah. But then the bouncers there and 753 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,800 laughing, Yeah, bouncers there laughing, reading a comic book, 754 00:39:53,800 --> 00:40:00,760 read Sonia, I noticed. And so Greg, like, chickens out. 755 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,560 He says no. And Mike Myers is like, oh, you 756 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,400 really are straight. And then he throws up on his 757 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,120 money. Oh yeah, it's. 758 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,040 Quite a tableau. Quarter, I'm like, was this me 759 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:17,320 at your party potentially? Yeah, I haven't heard anything 760 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,480 out of character for you yet, but yeah, Mike Myers throwing up 761 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,600 on the pile of money while trying to get some, trying to 762 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,040 give someone a blowjob. Quite camp. 763 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,280 Yeah, right. So then Shane finds out the way 764 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,720 you get the bartender job. So he goes to Mike Myers office 765 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,200 and tries to seduce him. And Mike Myers is kind of 766 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,400 impressed but turns him down but gives him the job. 767 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,880 But also is like, you want a job? 768 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,200 Well, shouldn't I be the one taking my pants off to Ryan 769 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,280 Felipe? Yeah, yeah, suck my Dick. 770 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,520 Yeah, yeah. Well, and then Shane, Shane, 771 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,320 Ryan, Felipe's confused. He's like, no, I thought it 772 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,000 worked the other way around. I know. 773 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,120 But yeah, so he gets the bartender job over Greg. 774 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,840 Greg's pissed. And this is where we see Shane 775 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,320 is kind of willing to step on his friends to get to the top. 776 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,960 Good. There's always someone younger 777 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,400 and hungrier. Now we're watching Shane's 778 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,520 popularity skyrocketing. And in the director's version, 779 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,800 this is a more extended scene, but it's a montage of him, like 780 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,760 sleeping around meeting high societies. 781 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,120 That people that like, get jobs at Studio 4, these are like, 782 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,960 they are like, they're like a prize jewel for the the venue, 783 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,080 aren't they? And they're treated like 784 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,320 celebrities at the club. That's right. 785 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,040 And there's a montage in the theatrical version of, like, him 786 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,800 waking up with all of these women in bed next to him in the 787 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,880 director's cut. Some of those people are men. 788 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,080 Yeah, great. Yeah, and then you know the hot 789 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,880 tub scene. Yeah. 790 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,440 He's like in a hot tub with all of these, like, high flying 791 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,120 people, and he's clearly about to have sex with a girl in that 792 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,480 hot tub. In the theatrical version and 793 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,840 the director's version, he's introduced to that woman by a 794 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,600 man he's just had sex with. Then the next time we meet that 795 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,680 woman, she says to Billy, he fucked me unconscious. 796 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,280 And so it's gotten around full circle and Billy's rolling her 797 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,480 eyes because now this woman she's just met is telling her 798 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,000 that he's fucked her unconscious. 799 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,120 And she's like, oh, baby, I know. 800 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,920 But yeah, we can. We. 801 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,400 He's kind of got a relationship going on with a man. 802 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,160 The man's introducing him to other women. 803 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,040 It's all very bisexual. Well, love that. 804 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,760 Yeah, love that. It's fabulous. 805 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,000 Yeah. And he's also kind of trying to 806 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,000 keep up with the rich and the famous. 807 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,600 He's paying for things. He doesn't really have the 808 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,320 money. He buys a fancy car with a 809 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,720 vanity plate on it that says Shane, 54, and Shane's. 810 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,800 He's basically addicted to the attention and he thinks he's on 811 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,040 the path to becoming something. And they the extended version 812 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,640 doesn't really do that. He says he's having a good time. 813 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,040 He's having a good time, yeah. It's very like, it's so 814 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,280 interesting. You said it was like teen 815 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,280 audience testing because it is just a very like teen like 816 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,080 friendly version. Yeah. 817 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,320 Then he gets chlamydia and he goes to the clinic to get 818 00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:06,280 antibiotics and he runs into club regular Disco Dottie. 819 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,360 What do you think of Disco Dottie? 820 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,640 I mean. She feels gimmicky. 821 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,480 Yeah, like it's, you know, again, it's like there's nothing 822 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,680 crazy about, like, an older person frequenting a night and 823 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,320 taking drugs. But the fact she's got like, 824 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,920 this double life is like a cute grandma. 825 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,520 Yeah, I don't know. Again, it feels like a straight 826 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,840 person has read that that was a character that existed at Studio 827 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,320 54, even though I know it's a gay director, but it feels like 828 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,600 a straight person has then created the the character rather 829 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,640 than. So again, I would say in the 830 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,760 director's cut, she's got a little bit more time and there's 831 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,360 a bit more a little just ever so slightly. 832 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,000 They've got a bit more of a relationship. 833 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,360 So she doesn't feel quite so much as like we need someone to 834 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,200 say something outrageous in this scene, like just Wheeler in and 835 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,160 get her to give her one liner and then like, but there's a 836 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,640 little bit more to her. But I also quite like her just 837 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,600 as the zany one liner like she Merry Christmas. 838 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:14,920 You can't, Merry. Christmas you can't she's a big 839 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,640 party girl as well she but like by this point with the STD 840 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,560 thing, I was starting to get a bit bored right. 841 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,800 Just all of these things sound, even you saying them now, they 842 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,760 sound like more exciting than they are. 843 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,440 But this is kind of like built it kind of basicness about the 844 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,760 way that all of these characters are presented. 845 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,360 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Disco Dotty should be getting 846 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,840 fingered in the fucking balcony. Full mouse energy. 847 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:45,400 Yeah, yeah, she probably was. The real character that she was 848 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,560 based on. Ended up with a 25 year old man 849 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,000 and she was married to a 25 year old when she died. 850 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,880 But that's kind of what you want to see. 851 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,760 Yeah, for sure. But yeah, she buys him his, he's 852 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,600 got no money, so he she buys him his antibiotics at the pharmacy 853 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,280 and they've got a cute kind of little. 854 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,720 We know each other sort of thing now around about this point in 855 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,880 the film, I put his giving Ryan Murphy. 856 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,080 Yes. It's starting to feel just like 857 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,400 a Ryan Murphy TV series. Yeah, it is very pose actually. 858 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,200 Like and it's just everything's being over explained. 859 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,720 It's just got this kind of like lost to it. 860 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,840 Well, again, the theatrical version has all of these voice 861 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,320 overs, which are not in the director's cut, which are very 862 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,720 like, and this was Studio 54. It was a cool party and they 863 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:32,440 were embezzling money. And you're like, I don't need to 864 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,080 be told this because I can see that happening. 865 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,760 Then Greg starts stealing drugs because he doesn't have the 866 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,880 bartender job, so he's dealing drugs. 867 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:45,480 And Shane is really hitting on his wife Anita, and Greg catches 868 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,400 him trying to kiss her. And there's this whole love 869 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,440 triangle situation brewing. And it's not a love triangle 870 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,680 that goes anywhere, is it? Well, it does. 871 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,680 Well, in your version it does, but in my version it's like. 872 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,480 Nothing happens. Yeah. 873 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,560 And the director's cut, it's actually Shane is broke because 874 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,600 he can't afford to keep up with the rich and famous. 875 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,000 And so he also becomes a drug dealer, and he's the one who 876 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,840 steals the money from Steve. In the theatrical version, Greg 877 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,120 is the thief and only Greg is dealing drugs. 878 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,720 Yeah, so basically in the the extended version, the version, 879 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:22,200 the hetero 1, essentially we've got a pretty boy that's like 880 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,200 everyone wants a bit of a bit of the action from he's hitting the 881 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,680 drugs, he's having a good time, He's sort of fucking trying to 882 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,720 fuck his friend's best, his friend's girlfriend, but that's 883 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,960 about it. There's no like real stakes are 884 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,240 there for him. He's just kind of existing. 885 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,480 Yeah, that's it. And you also don't get a sense 886 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,960 of why this character is doing anything or what like what his 887 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,320 motivation is like. It's, I mean, fine, it's 888 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,160 probably good enough to be like, I'm from a small town and I have 889 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,360 big city dreams like that maybe is kind of enough. 890 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,920 But this one, it adds a dimension of I also couldn't be 891 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,560 myself in my small town. And so I'm finally being allowed 892 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,360 to express myself fully. And that is intoxicating. 893 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,160 I don't, I don't need someone to be like to go off the rails with 894 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,360 a drug addiction or I don't need to see that. 895 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,160 But like, yeah, like something like it makes sense. 896 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,320 Like he doesn't have money, but he's trying to keep up with 897 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,600 people. That makes sense. 898 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:17,920 Gives the whole story like a bit more. 899 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,400 He also ends up going over the like, he also ends up having a 900 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,560 drug problem. So everything you're saying will 901 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,440 happen. Something Otherwise it's just 902 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,240 like hot guy goes to club, has a nice time, yeah. 903 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,840 Exactly what are the stakes? He's like, oh, I had a bit too 904 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,760 much fun. I guess I'll the. 905 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,000 Funniest place in the world? I guess I'll, I guess I'll just 906 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,320 go be friends with my family again and manage a restaurant. 907 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,080 The end. Yeah. 908 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,840 Basically, let's. Yeah. 909 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,440 Meanwhile. So yeah, in my version this sub 910 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,600 character is being given a bigger part. 911 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,040 Yeah, Nevada Campbell, we haven't quite got there yet. 912 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,400 No, haven't we? Well, maybe we have. 913 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:04,680 Yeah, I'm going to start calling it. 914 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,720 I think we should just start calling it the hat version and 915 00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:12,440 the gay version. So they go to a fancy dinner 916 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,600 where this is where Shane realizes he's pretty much he's 917 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,040 basically just a pretty trophy to all of these people. 918 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,240 Yeah, but we're not getting Versace. 919 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,880 Level no, but that is the, that is the. 920 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,760 Vibe, but I feel like I just need to really, if you haven't 921 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,400 watched this movie, I can't let you believe that we're getting 922 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,640 like Versace levels of fun now because it's not it's. 923 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,640 Yeah, what what we get is you're the most gorgeous troglioedite 924 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,440 I've ever seen. And Shane thinks it's a 925 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,200 compliment and everybody laughs at him, but it is essentially 926 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,160 Versace. Yeah, the the point of it, the 927 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,280 scene is Versace. Also, we've got Michael York 928 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,600 cameo there who is famously in Cabaret and that's obviously a 929 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,520 very explicit nod to that. Pick up, Yeah. 930 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,440 Also at this dinner, Anita is also up for sleeping her way 931 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,120 around to get a record deal. I don't remember if this happens 932 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,520 in the heady version or not. Oh yeah, she does. 933 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,280 Yeah. Yeah. 934 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,400 I mean because in the Haiti version, like a woman can be a 935 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,400 slut. Yeah, a woman can sleep her way 936 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,120 to the top, but a man? Because it's her only option. 937 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,360 Yeah, like a man can't kiss another guy. 938 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,160 No. So I will say it's funny because 939 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,400 she has a terrible voice. I know. 940 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,960 And it's like she's meant to be this like new hot disco side and 941 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,080 she literally is awful. But I feel like she does kind of 942 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,960 also be like, I'm not very good. Yeah, but it's not even like in 943 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,720 a kind of fabulous performance artist disco diva kind of way. 944 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,760 It's like. It's giving Jennifer Lopez 945 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,600 great, great gowns, beautiful gowns. 946 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,280 Yes, without the dancing. Yeah, without the it's 947 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,120 literally. Like when you see those clips of 948 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,160 Jennifer Lopez now and she's like singing songs from 949 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,360 Broadway. And it's like, no, we do not 950 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,440 need this. Thank you. 951 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,760 What we need is Ashanti and Christine. 952 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,840 Millions and voices ramped right up and you're reading in vocal 953 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,360 at the bottom. And you've got a cane. 954 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,200 Yes. You're doing some great cane 955 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,120 work, so Shane is starting to feel a bit used because he wants 956 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,040 to be taken seriously and valued for more than just his good 957 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,480 looks and sex appeal. Loser. 958 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,640 Yeah. Right, there's the. 959 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,880 Violet like him. I know there's the whole thing 960 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,160 with him. That's the thing. 961 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,160 What is this thing like, oh, who is it? 962 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,240 Oh, it's something Michelle de Swartz says. 963 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,920 When you're a model, you literally don't need to give a 964 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,960 shit. It's only when you, like, turn 965 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,520 old that you actually have to start working on a personality. 966 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,080 But like literally have your fucking glory days of being a 967 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,920 fucking cunt because no one cares if you're a hot model. 968 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,560 And I'm like, that is sensational. 969 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,000 And then when you go downhill, then work on having a 970 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,760 personality. Then such a Chinese friend. 971 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,480 Gorgeous model. Carry on. 972 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,920 That is that should. Yeah, that should be the message 973 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,440 of this movie. It's not. 974 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,520 So now we're now it's Christmas Eve. 975 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,000 It turns out this movie is a Christmas movie if you squint. 976 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,040 Merry. Christmas, you cunt. 977 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,160 Dottie says that line and I can't wait to terrorize everyone 978 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,760 listening to this podcast with that clip at come Christmas 979 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,120 time. But yeah, it's Christmas Eve, 980 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,160 Shane, Greg and and neither are at home in the gay version and 981 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,800 they really nearly have a threesome. 982 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,520 It's like they're all standing very close and they're all about 983 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,080 to three-way kiss. It gets very close and then Greg 984 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,800 walks out. But surely there could have just 985 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,800 been a hefty way of doing that as well. 986 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,240 Yeah, just making all about her and then you know, it's like I 987 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,440 mean isn't that just like the most heady thing in the world 988 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,040 like 2 Bros and well this one is touch each others Dick. 989 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,640 Yeah, but. This one is very it looks really 990 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,040 gay. Ohk OK, yeah, then she's not 991 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,320 getting any. Yeah, they would have had. 992 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,320 She's like, it's like honey, like go and get the strap on. 993 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,800 Because we are, Yeah. Going they would have had to 994 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,560 reshoot it because you you know, the the I fucking Ryan is doing 995 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,240 to Greg is like, yeah, there's no way a teen in Long Island is 996 00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,720 going to be OK with that. OK, OK, got you. 997 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,920 I'm God. I'm surprised because there 998 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,720 aren't there aren't any properly gay or trans characters in this 999 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,840 story. Just Mike Myers, yeah, in the 1000 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,720 neti. Version and there's no there's 1001 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:25,040 no trans, no characters in Studio 54, no film about Studio 1002 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,000 54, about disco in New York. I think you see like a flash of 1003 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,600 one drag queen one time. Yeah, that is fucking wild. 1004 00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,920 Yeah. And I mean I'm surprised the 1005 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,960 Hetty version didn't just go down like the one gay character 1006 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,480 having AIDS and dying as well. Well, he does. 1007 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,520 That is what happens is. That what happens to him in the 1008 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,480 film. Yeah, at the end, I mean. 1009 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,960 The Hetty version. The Hetty version in the voice 1010 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,880 over at the end. They're like Steve Rebel died 4 1011 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,440 years later of AIDS. Oh, OK. 1012 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,000 So yeah, they did do that. Yeah, yeah. 1013 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,760 That is also true. That is what happened. 1014 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,440 So it's Christmas Eve still. They're in the club basement. 1015 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,880 And this is in the gay version. Shane breaks down about how 1016 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,000 hollow his life has become. And he's crying and Greg is 1017 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,560 there and Greg is comforting him and being like, I'm Greg's like, 1018 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,560 I want your life, man. Like you've got it all. 1019 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,960 Like, come on, it's all, everything's going to be fine. 1020 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,360 And in that comforting scene, Shane looks up at him and he 1021 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,240 kisses him. And they kiss for a minute and 1022 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,120 then Greg runs out because Greg is no homo. 1023 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,560 But they do kiss. None of this happens in the 1024 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,880 theatrical, in the head. None of this happens in the 1025 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:36,360 head. He cut. 1026 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,800 And then so Shane's just been rejected by Greg. 1027 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,920 Greg's freaked out because he's just been kissed by his best 1028 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,920 friend. He tries to get Anita to leave. 1029 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,120 They have a fight because she doesn't want to go because 1030 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:53,280 they're in an open marriage. And Greg can't really handle. 1031 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,200 It Yeah. And again, in the Hetty version, 1032 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,520 he just gets angry and you're like, Oh my God, no wonder she 1033 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,280 doesn't want to be with you. So then Shane and Anita meet and 1034 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,680 then they fuck in the bathroom and they've that's kind of why 1035 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,600 they're fucking, because they're both kind of pissed off at Greg. 1036 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,880 That's so much better. Yeah. 1037 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,600 And also, hello. That's exactly what a little fag 1038 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,000 like Ryan Felipe would do. It's like, oh, you turned me 1039 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,560 down, did you? I want. 1040 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,200 You to. Take your wife. 1041 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,520 Even though I want you, Greg, and I want your Dick, I'm now 1042 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,240 going to take her. That is exactly the kind of 1043 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:29,360 manipulation that we want to see in a movie. 1044 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,800 That's what you would do if you were chaotic 20 year old 1045 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,640 bisexual. Yes, And you have those powers. 1046 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,280 It's very Gina. Good shot. 1047 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,320 Yes, very crystal. Steve also watches them have 1048 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,600 sex, which does have a payoff in the gay version, so. 1049 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,280 Oh yeah, because in the Hetty version he just is, like, he 1050 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,000 just storms out, isn't he? Yeah. 1051 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,040 So now we're in the in the bit between Christmas and New 1052 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,760 Year's, and this is another big difference in the Hetty version. 1053 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,480 In this period, he has a short love affair with Neve Campbell. 1054 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,600 They go bowling. Yeah, bowling. 1055 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,440 And they go on a coffee day and I'm like, because I wrote this, 1056 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:14,400 I was like, this is a film about Studio 54 and we are watching 1057 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,760 people going bowling. What the fuck is going on? 1058 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,920 Why are there not any subplots? Are there not any more 1059 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,120 interesting things that we could happen that the world's most 1060 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:33,520 infamous exciting disco ever and we are fucking bowling with Neve 1061 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,960 Campbell? It's crazy. 1062 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,200 And she's in like a sensible knit, and he's wearing a wig of 1063 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,160 his own hair. Oh yeah. 1064 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,480 Because all of this, what you're describing to me is very camp. 1065 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,840 It's really funny to have a movie called About Studio 54. 1066 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:54,280 Actually is. Nevada Campbell bowling and a 1067 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,240 sensible knit. I'd like she's like, yeah, oh, 1068 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,240 she's all delusions of her. Even cosplaying as someone that 1069 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:03,720 goes to Studio 54 out the window, She's like, no, I'm back 1070 00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:08,840 to my Sydney outfit. She knew what she was doing, 1071 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,640 didn't she? Yeah, so in the game version. 1072 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,120 Behind the hetification of it all, Not just not just acting. 1073 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,080 But like, do you think she's not joining your Nevada Campbell 1074 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,240 Haywell? Do you? 1075 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,160 Think she was like, listen, I know how to hetty this up, leave 1076 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,920 it with me. I think she was the mastermind. 1077 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,880 I think she was the one that made the decision that this 1078 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:36,480 needed to be hettified. She's like, Neve Campbell hates 1079 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,120 gay people and only wants to be in straight movies. 1080 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,280 She's like, she saw that director Scott, she actually 1081 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,240 paid all those kids to go to the screening in Long Island and was 1082 00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:47,560 like, tell them you wanted to be less gay. 1083 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120 I need more screen time. I believe it. 1084 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,480 I believe it. I've. 1085 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,560 Got this great idea for a bowling scene. 1086 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,160 Listen, let me cast your mind back to wild things. 1087 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,920 She ain't that wild with Denise Richards. 1088 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,320 Denise Richards. They had sex in a. 1089 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,400 Pool Denise Richards did all of the work and continues to do the 1090 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,960 work to this very day. Just because Neve Campbell 1091 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,760 didn't want to show her boobs does not mean she didn't do the 1092 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,400 work. Well, that's the start of the 1093 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:26,560 heterification of it all, so. The head of vacation so gay 1094 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:34,720 version none of no bowling gay version. 1095 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,320 Gay version no bowling would be a great T-shirt. 1096 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,200 The gay version yeah no bowling. But he's he's basically tries to 1097 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,760 go home because he's like realized he's crossed the line 1098 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,960 by having sex with Anita. He's taken too many drugs and 1099 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,560 he's crossed lines, so he goes home, but his dad rejects him, 1100 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,480 which makes more sense now that his dad thinks he's a drug 1101 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,200 addicted fag. In the heady version, you're 1102 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,840 like, why is he sleeping in his car? 1103 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,280 This doesn't make any sense. But in the gay version, he's 1104 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,240 like sleeping in his car because he's kind of fucked everything 1105 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,400 up. He decides he's going back to 1106 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,280 the city. He throws his bong out of the 1107 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,600 window, which again is not in the heady version. 1108 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,520 And he's like, he's going to patch things up and he's going 1109 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,200 to like do this right then it's. I swear to God, just having only 1110 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,040 watched the Hetty version, you don't get any sense of like, I'm 1111 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,920 literally just like, there's no problem, I'm watching this. 1112 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,280 I'm just like, there's no issues here. 1113 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,880 Totally. But it's also incredibly 1114 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,000 confusing because you'll get sections of scenes like for 1115 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,840 example, this scene where in the gay version, he throws his bong 1116 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,480 out the window. He like looks at it and he's 1117 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,480 like, no, you know what? I'm done and throws it out the 1118 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,960 window and it crashes. And that you can hear it smash 1119 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,000 on the road behind him and a car honks and he's like, oops. 1120 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,200 In the heady version, you just see him swerve. 1121 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,040 He's still driving his car. A car honks at him and he goes, 1122 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,440 but you don't have any. Like there's no reason why he's 1123 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,520 like, they're just like, we need some running time. 1124 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,600 So we need to use this bit. But. 1125 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,960 I also just don't get the sense that he's having a downfall as a 1126 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,040 no. I the only thing I do get a 1127 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,960 slight sense of is that he's like, oh, you know, his emotions 1128 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,880 are a bit all over the place. And that actually, you know, 1129 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,880 being with Neve Campbell, you know, that could be the thing 1130 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,200 that will tone him down. And actually he's thinking 1131 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,000 outside of life outside the party. 1132 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,240 But like the other thing, I don't even get like a drug 1133 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,640 problem. I get the biggest problem is 1134 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,240 unlike his evil whatever, when it's like, oh, you know, we're 1135 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,000 exhausted. It's such a big shift. 1136 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,000 Yeah, that's it. It's like, oh God. 1137 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,160 It's, yeah, it's, it's not only incomprehensible because the 1138 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,360 plot that they've decided to push with the heady version is 1139 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,560 stupid, but it's also like, so weirdly cut together that it's 1140 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,560 also just quite hard to follow. I'm like, when are we? 1141 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,160 Is this the same night? Like, what's happened? 1142 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,120 What's like, it's very confusing. 1143 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:08,800 But now it's New Year's Eve and things are ox between Shane and 1144 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,840 Greg because obviously he tried to kiss him and he was kind of 1145 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,520 rejected. Shane tells Anita he just wants 1146 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,240 to be friends and and he also owns up to stealing the money 1147 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960 from Steve, which obviously none of this is in the heady version. 1148 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,720 They have this kind of more expanded, nuanced relationship 1149 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,120 here where Steve is like, yeah, I knew you were stealing from 1150 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,960 me, but like, I've got a soft spot for you. 1151 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,560 Like, they've got this weird kind of relationship, which in 1152 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,840 the heady version is just Steve is just a pervy old man. 1153 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,360 In another scene in the gay version, Greg goes back to 1154 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,480 Steve's house for a second time. There's another opening on the 1155 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,600 bartender spot. Greg is back at Steve's house 1156 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,920 with the bag of money, and he's finally ready to get to receive 1157 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,640 a blowy in order to get the bartender job. 1158 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,560 And Steve turns him down and says, now I'm not interested, 1159 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,320 but I would like to watch you and Anita have sex sometime. 1160 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,160 And Greg's like, fuck that, no. And he's like, why not? 1161 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,880 I liked it when I watched Shane and Anita have sex. 1162 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,880 Oh my God. So. 1163 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,920 Now we've actually got a reason. Why he was watching, you know, 1164 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,000 there's like at least a narrative through line. 1165 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,680 And more of this understanding of he's just this manipulative 1166 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,400 because he's just like the version I watch. 1167 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,400 He's just like a desperate old club owner. 1168 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,400 Yeah, which is why I kind of made the comparisons. 1169 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,720 So Greg storms back to the club and gets in a fist fight with 1170 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,840 Shane are. We hetty or gay version now 1171 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,640 because a fist fight could mean slightly different things 1172 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,800 Crystal So just to confirm are they fisting each other or? 1173 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,600 It's a heady fist fight in the gay version. 1174 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,040 So no fisting. No fisting. 1175 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,120 Shane also runs into never at the club and realizes that she's 1176 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,720 the same as everyone, she's just a social climber. 1177 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,560 It's not a big deal in the gay version because they barely know 1178 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:07,720 each other. But it's a huge like, Oh my God, 1179 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,160 my girl. But this is where we get to 1180 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,160 Shane's rock bottom. Because he's fallen out with his 1181 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,160 friends. Finally, all of his like, bad 1182 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,120 behaviours kind of come back to roost and he doesn't really have 1183 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:22,160 anywhere to go. So he freebases cocaine and he 1184 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,520 loses his fucking mind. He doesn't do that in the Hetty 1185 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,600 vote. No, he does not. 1186 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,920 No, he does not. So he's. 1187 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,520 Yeah, because. So now we're watching. 1188 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,040 Yeah, now we're watching him have a very bad trip and he's 1189 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,080 on. It's New Year's Eve. 1190 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,120 Dottie comes up to him and comforts him and is like trying 1191 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,640 to take care of him. She's like being like the. 1192 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,040 Old lady. The old lady, Yeah, Anita gets 1193 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,280 the chance to perform on stage. This happens in both versions. 1194 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,600 She's terrible. Yeah, she's she's quite bad, but 1195 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,920 the song kind of has a moment. Everybody. 1196 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,920 It's it starts week and you're meant to be like, oh, is she 1197 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,600 going to be able to do this? And then the disco of it all 1198 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,440 kicks in. She's doing well. 1199 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,760 Greg sees her on stage and forgives her for having sex with 1200 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,840 Shane and realizes he can't control her. 1201 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,360 And there's like this moment where he's like, I'm so proud of 1202 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,720 her and I want to be with her. Which again, in the Hetty 1203 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,160 version there's you're like, why are they fighting? 1204 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,920 He doesn't. He doesn't know she cheated on 1205 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:28,200 him. Listen, it's what it's telling 1206 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,640 me is like being Hetty is just a bit easier. 1207 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,240 You don't need to know about things and you just get on and 1208 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,720 it just happens. And then in both versions, 1209 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,280 Dottie takes some coke on the dance floor and she drops dead. 1210 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,160 Yes, yeah, now I have feelings about this. 1211 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,640 For starters, she is a fucking caner, OK? 1212 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:57,040 This old woman who was in her 80s is caning it every night, 1213 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,760 every night, every single drug that she can get her fucking 1214 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,480 hands on, even in the Hetty version. 1215 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,240 So I'm like, it kind of makes sense. 1216 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,800 It makes sense. Point #2 Wouldn't that? 1217 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,400 Isn't that how she would want to die? 1218 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,760 What a way? Did you want to go like that? 1219 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,560 It's New Year's Eve, I have just taken the world's most mind 1220 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,680 blown drugs and now I've died under under a fucking mirror 1221 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,720 ball. If it was the real Studio 54, if 1222 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,200 I died in that Studio 54, maybe I would be slightly sad. 1223 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,440 But going out on a dance floor, like surrounded by people we 1224 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,640 shopping music in your 80s like quite a fucking. 1225 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:39,000 It's so true because it's like, it's like a school theatre 1226 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,840 production of what transpires now, because it's like everybody 1227 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,200 in the club, which is you really, really, really, really 1228 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,920 realise how well lit the club is now. 1229 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,040 It's like a function room, isn't it? 1230 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,960 And then it's like, everyone's like, so. 1231 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:01,160 And then I was like, how many fucking ODS must have happened 1232 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,560 at Studio 54? They definitely had a system. 1233 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:10,480 Keep the music pumping, the cocktails flowing, and get rid 1234 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,920 of that dead body now. The most unforgivable, the most 1235 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,760 unforgivable thing that the theatrical version does is it 1236 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:22,080 tries to moralize this lady's death and make me think she's a 1237 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,920 victim of a hedonistic lifestyle where I'm, like, watching him, 1238 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:30,120 like, yeah. She makes it to her 80s and like 1239 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,200 she's still partying with the best of them. 1240 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:36,560 And I go. I'm going like darling. 1241 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,000 Right. It's just everybody's just like 1242 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,480 the only way that could feel right with the reaction they've 1243 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,480 given it is that like he was, I'm I'm going off script now. 1244 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,800 I'm creating it in his like cocaine high craziness. 1245 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:58,160 He accidentally gave her a drink that was drugged. 1246 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,240 And like, you know, Dottie's thing was she doesn't take 1247 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,080 drugs. She just like she's high on life 1248 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,560 or something. And then because of his actions, 1249 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,360 the old lady dies. She's hunting for drugs. 1250 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,280 We haven't been following her story. 1251 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,880 I don't know what else she's been mopping up that fucking 1252 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,640 night, but she's not fussy with what goes up and she. 1253 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,000 Is a scrounger. She'll take it all. 1254 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,600 Got any treats for Donnie? Yeah, it's like, but so it's 1255 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,760 just like, I kind of feel like she'd want everyone to just, if 1256 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:30,840 she did done that, that everyone just be like, yeah, but no, the 1257 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,160 way that my version of the film does, it's basically the end of 1258 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:41,480 Studio 54 because of this. It's so stupid and yeah, so in. 1259 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,440 Also quite camp, a very color. We're analyzing it like this. 1260 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,480 Yeah, very camp to turn try and turn this all into a morality 1261 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:54,360 play about the dangers and drugs and sex in the set at Studio 54. 1262 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:59,120 Set at Studio 54, The Studio 54 with no gay people. 1263 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,840 So Stephen Shane fight about Dottie's death and Shane gets 1264 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:12,480 fired because Shane's like no one cares about her and blah 1265 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,680 blah blah. Shane gets fired, the FBI raid 1266 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:20,200 the club, Steve gets arrested, and Shane is thrown out. 1267 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,880 This this is all kind of the same in both versions, although 1268 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,160 there is slight differences. And then we see Shane shivering 1269 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,920 on the sidewalk wrapped in a bin bag back where we started the 1270 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,760 movie. Julie then drives up in a limo 1271 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,880 and offers him a ride. And now we've got I. 1272 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,960 Like you, Shane. Yeah, now we've got the other, 1273 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,080 the other two big differences, I would say. 1274 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:46,240 So in the gay version, should I start with a better version of 1275 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,480 the I'll start with the one you've seen. 1276 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,040 So in the heady version, Nevada gets out of the car. 1277 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,760 They have a heart to heart. She says she's changed her mind 1278 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,760 about chasing that stuff. I don't know why She has enough 1279 01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,440 30 minutes since she left, since they left her in the club, but 1280 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,320 she's had a change of heart. Well, it's because Dotty died, 1281 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,480 so you know she's had to rethink everything. 1282 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,480 And they say they're going to stay friends. 1283 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,480 And then the movie kind of ends. And then we see, like, a what 1284 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,359 happened next? And Shane does a voice over 1285 01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:19,800 saying, like, he went to Business School and is now 1286 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,240 managing restaurants. Julie is successful and living 1287 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,800 in LA. Greg went to prison for drugs. 1288 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,600 But now he works in construction. 1289 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,200 And him and Anita are really happy. 1290 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:34,840 She released an album. She's doing OK Shane reconnects 1291 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,240 with his family and his sisters and is back at home. 1292 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,399 Like I'm having a great. Time with make up, even though 1293 01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:42,720 it isn't the 90s. But yeah, he's it's literally 1294 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,080 like we're not even pretending we're in the this is a sort of 1295 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,319 a, a historical piece now, are we? 1296 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,120 And then Steve gets out of prison and they get to throw one 1297 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,560 last party at Studio 54 and everyone comes back together and 1298 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,120 ultra Nate. This is real though. 1299 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,080 This is what happened. Alternate Amber and Jocelyn 1300 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,479 Enriquez perform If you could read my mind on stage. 1301 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,800 The end. You ready for the gay version? 1302 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,520 Oh. Yeah, because this is this is 1303 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,800 blind to me now. The gay version. 1304 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,680 So he's in the bin bag walking down the street. 1305 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,120 Julie drives past in the limo. She says, do you want to get in? 1306 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,399 It's just me. And he says Nah. 1307 01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:30,160 And so she just drives off. A man after my own heart. 1308 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,200 Get rid of her. He bumps into Greg, who's also 1309 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,720 on left the club. He's also wearing no clothes. 1310 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,319 He's on the run from the cops too. 1311 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,800 And then Anita comes out in a giant fur coat. 1312 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:45,720 Allah Hustlers wraps her two boys up in her fur coat and they 1313 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:50,160 all walk off in together. And the movie. 1314 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,319 And the implication is they're going to. 1315 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,040 Fuck, they're going to fuck. They're like we have been 1316 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,720 wasting our time. Let's just each other's brains 1317 01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,400 out. Finally, we all want to fuck 1318 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,160 each other. The end. 1319 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,560 My God, that is such a good ending. 1320 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:04,480 Such a good. Ending. 1321 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,040 It's so funny, isn't it? Because now, like, I know that 1322 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,040 there's two. It's kind of makes mine funnier. 1323 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,040 Yeah, I know it. Actually. 1324 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,720 The meta camp of this movie is so good. 1325 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,280 Really, I will give it to you because I hated it, but I knew 1326 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:27,280 that they did a lot of changes to make it Hetty, but I I kind 1327 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:32,520 of the the joy wasn't there for me just because it it just is so 1328 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,680 like, and I know it's kind of funny to do all of these things 1329 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,120 and get rid of it, but it just doesn't play out in a fun way. 1330 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,360 But now I know that there's like an ulterior universe actually is 1331 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,120 out there. They're. 1332 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,640 So afraid of anything gay that they've like, chopped this movie 1333 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:50,360 into a Frankenstein version and added a bowling scene just to 1334 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,760 avoid any gay stuff. It's so funny. 1335 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,840 It's just like, are straight people OK? 1336 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,600 That's so true. It's like, are you OK? 1337 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,720 Do we need to wrap everything up A cut of all? 1338 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:09,080 For you even like there's bartenders in this in this movie 1339 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,240 and then the gay version, they're like there's clearly a 1340 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,640 couple and they like have a little fight one time they're 1341 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,640 like teasing each other another time they're just like 1342 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,280 background characters basically. But there's like gayness and 1343 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,800 they're even, they remove that from the heavy version. 1344 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,240 Phobic in this? In this? 1345 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:29,360 Where is the like basic lesbian stuff like the male gaze lesbian 1346 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,960 stuff 'cause that doesn't even exist in this, does it? 1347 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,720 Yeah, you're so right. Where's where's Neve Campbell 1348 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,000 letting off with Anita? You're right. 1349 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,480 Oh, we know she wouldn't do that because it's not in her 1350 01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:41,840 contract, because she owns us Hattie Films. 1351 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,480 Yeah. You could imagine them also, 1352 01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:46,000 like in that montage where he's making waking up in bed. 1353 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,880 Like you could imagine one time it would be two women. 1354 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,360 Yeah. They would have replaced one of 1355 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,200 the men with two women and be like, see, it's still a bit gay. 1356 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,560 It's so, so funny to me, what I would say. 1357 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:00,840 What? Does it mean though? 1358 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:01,840 What does it mean? What? 1359 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,480 How do we where do we go from here? 1360 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:06,240 I don't know what. I don't know what to do. 1361 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:11,880 I'm I don't know what to say. Well they are just such 1362 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,240 surprising. It's amazing how you can like 1363 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,200 have almost all the same plot points and have such different 1364 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:18,800 outcomes. And the style of movie. 1365 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,400 I really really really wish I'd seen the gay version first 1366 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,960 because it is actually I think quite a good movie. 1367 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:29,000 But when you watch it second your your perception of it is 1368 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,280 coloured by the shit version you watched before and you're you're 1369 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,080 kind of second guessing. You're like, did this happen? 1370 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:35,680 I can't remember. Did I just miss that before? 1371 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,880 So, right, I mean, I obviously haven't experienced it, but I 1372 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,200 think from what you're telling me, I would I, if I could go 1373 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,120 back in time, I'd like to watch the gay version first and then 1374 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,040 watch the Hetty and then laugh at how all the bad choices. 1375 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,920 That sounds perfect. Yeah. 1376 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,920 Exactly, And I'm not saying that the gay version is a perfect 1377 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,480 movie by any means, but it is like. 1378 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,560 Is it sloppy? Still no, it's not a sloppy 1379 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,720 because. Because but in terms of like do 1380 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,120 get more of a century in this kind of fun Judo 54. 1381 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,560 Yeah, absolutely. And like, because the editing 1382 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:13,440 isn't so weird, you're not like also kind of being jarringly 1383 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,640 janked from scene to scene or like you're not sure what's 1384 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,760 going on. You can't follow like the 1385 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:23,000 narrative makes more sense. But also like it becomes a quite 1386 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,480 like kind of classic gay coming of age story, which is like 1387 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,920 endearing. And like, especially, you know, 1388 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,560 if you were watching that as a 20 year old, I think it would 1389 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,080 have been quite a powerful movie. 1390 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:39,160 It's kind of got like a velvet goldmine sort of thing, but. 1391 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,200 Also, it sounds like it has a storyline and like kind of 1392 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,960 stakes and stuff, which the straight version doesn't have. 1393 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,560 It's so it is so sanitized. It's. 1394 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,480 Crazy. And so like, yeah, maybe it's 1395 01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:53,120 still a bit of a cheesy gay coming of age story, but like, 1396 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,080 it's not a bad one of those, you know what I mean? 1397 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,760 And also less nab Campbell. So much less. 1398 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,920 So I'm like okay side. Yeah, she's barely in it. 1399 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,160 As she should be, yeah. And she was, I think, you know, 1400 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:11,080 she was cast in this to be a cameo, and they were tried to 1401 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,320 make her into a feature. It's so funny. 1402 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,640 It's so funny. Also, not only does it manage to 1403 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,880 erase all of the gay stuff, but because the only gay stuff 1404 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,160 that's left in the heady version is Mike Myers, it's also just 1405 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,040 becomes quite a homophobic movie. 1406 01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:28,960 It goes from like a nuanced gay story with different gay 1407 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:33,800 characters living different ways to just the only gay person is 1408 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:41,880 pastiche. Well, no, I you know, as I said, 1409 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:46,960 I wouldn't necessarily say just, it's just giving an older figure 1410 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,200 running a club that, you know, I wouldn't want to. 1411 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,240 Yeah. It's like it was such. 1412 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,920 It's like not only are we going to erase queer, we can 1413 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,000 villainize. Anything. 1414 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,480 You know what? We can keep the pervy gay man? 1415 01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:03,200 Yeah. The old ugly gay man. 1416 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:08,760 Let's keep that one. So that's that's quite funny. 1417 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,880 That is quite funny. Also, just even like the Greg 1418 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,440 and Anita relationship is so much more explicitly, they've 1419 01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:19,520 got an open relationship in the gay version, which is also quite 1420 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,080 refreshing. Actually, that's given me like a 1421 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,840 flashback to the Hetty version because there's a bit where Ryan 1422 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,360 Felipe looks at their pictures when he goes into their 1423 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,000 apartment and there's the wedding picture and they and 1424 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,040 he's like, oh, what a what a lovely wedding picture. 1425 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,960 And they both kind of like look at each other in a weird way. 1426 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,920 And like I when I watched the Hetty version was like, ohh, is 1427 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,720 that because they're not really married or is this something is 1428 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,840 gonna come out because it was a look, right, Which is clearly 1429 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,680 from the original. So clearly there's more built in 1430 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,840 that they're not open so that they are open. 1431 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,720 So that marriage thing is, but in in the Hetty version, it is 1432 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,040 just like, and then I was like, oh, it's a fake marriage. 1433 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,560 He's gay or something, right. And then it just as you said. 1434 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:01,440 Nothing. Nothing. 1435 01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:05,400 Doesn't make sense. Like love that they've made a 1436 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:09,000 new film but without caring about like well you said the 1437 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,600 director wasn't allowed to watch the final car now so who has 1438 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,920 been editing this? Was Neve Campbell editing it as 1439 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,800 well? The dark truth is that I think 1440 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,840 it was probably Harvey Weinstein, because apparently 1441 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,520 probably his nickname was Harvey Scissorhands. 1442 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,400 He loved to make directors recut their movies. 1443 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,120 Right. And just have no through line of 1444 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,200 anything. I mean, from a cynical point of 1445 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,320 view, I guess you can you could say like, OK, so this is the 1446 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,800 same studio that did Velvet Goldmine and that was a flop. 1447 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,360 And so maybe they're like, OK, people don't want a gay coming 1448 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,760 of age story. Maybe they want a teen focused 1449 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,760 with the two biggest teen stars of the day. 1450 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,960 Maybe we can make a love story out of this movie. 1451 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,160 But it like God, it's it's pathetic to watch. 1452 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,520 It's it's. It's so it's so interesting to 1453 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:02,040 me that there hasn't been another film in more recent 1454 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,560 years based around studio. Yeah, we haven't had it. 1455 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,960 Because I feel like people have more guts now, and that's what I 1456 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,800 think you need to do a Studio 54 film justice. 1457 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,520 Or even like a just a disco era movie. 1458 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,960 Totally. Because it's like, you know, 1459 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,120 like the glitz and glam is one thing, but of course inevitably 1460 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,200 there's going to be like, problematic, dark, murky 1461 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,680 subculture shit. Yeah. 1462 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,040 It's just such a rich thing for a film. 1463 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,360 Totally. The problem I have with this 1464 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:36,600 film, ultimately is there's just no, it's like, like an American 1465 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,600 high school production of Studio 54. 1466 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,440 There's no, like, luxury to any of the set pieces or it doesn't 1467 01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:44,160 feel grand. It doesn't feel special. 1468 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,600 It's like you said about all of these stories about people 1469 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,440 Wheeling in glitter to great glitter sand. 1470 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,880 There's none of that. It's like a cardboard moon. 1471 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,360 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so true. 1472 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,920 The movie that springs to mind, which is like the good version 1473 01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,320 of this is Boogie Nights, which obviously does deal with all the 1474 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,600 darkness and it's about porn. It's not about, but it's in the 1475 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,040 same time period. It's obviously like in 1476 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,840 conversation with this movie, and it's just, yeah, so funny to 1477 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,120 see that one, which is like, yeah, really incredible, well 1478 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,840 acted, dark, nuanced, like. Oh, it all says, well, that with 1479 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,040 all of these kind of films, like, we've seen it done and we 1480 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,840 know that it can be done. Like, it doesn't have to be 1481 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,160 trauma porn. Yeah, it you can. 1482 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:28,280 You can still tell like really wonderful tales of people with 1483 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,360 really complicated, difficult lives, but still captured like 1484 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,560 the joy and the sort of essence of life in it without going down 1485 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,720 the route of like, and then they all die like you don't need. 1486 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,280 To do that. Yeah, but it's like there were 1487 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,480 ways of kind of like celebrating those glorious forces in 1488 01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:48,080 nightlife culture that are like, have all of these, like demons 1489 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,040 around them. So yeah, I want to. 1490 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,600 I want to see someone else do it. 1491 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,680 Totally. I love that the gay version of 1492 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,240 this ends basically the same way as Showgirls, which is like, 1493 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,440 what did you win me? And it's like, I'm triumphantly, 1494 01:19:02,440 --> 01:19:05,200 like, going into the future. I've been changed by this 1495 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,720 experience, but I've got no shame about what I've done. 1496 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,600 And like, I love, yeah. It's like so empowered. 1497 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,360 I think it's interesting that it's like a bisexual storyline 1498 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:18,880 and obviously I do not think this about our bisexual family 1499 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,080 members, but it's kind of giving like make a choice. 1500 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:29,120 Do you want to be straight and have an IT job and just, or do 1501 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,520 you want to go and just like fuck and be queer and like. 1502 01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:34,160 Right. You mean the two? 1503 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,640 Versions. The two, two movies. 1504 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,880 Yeah, it's just like, what do you want to do? 1505 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,640 Yeah, that's so true. That's so true. 1506 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:45,080 I, I, I also think like the heady version is, well, I think 1507 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,400 the gay version is like, yeah, somewhere between showgirls and 1508 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,800 cabaret. And the heady version is 1509 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:54,080 burlesque, and that's almost being cruel to burlesque. 1510 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,520 Oh, it's not almost. It's like being really cool to 1511 01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,840 burlesque because at least burlesque has like a bit of. 1512 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,960 Yeah, some, some production. Value. 1513 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,000 Yeah, it's like, where is this is just like, Oh my God. 1514 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,960 A number. It's got a routine. 1515 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,800 It's got an 8 count. Although saying that, what's the 1516 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,320 name of Christina Aguilera's love interest in burlesque? 1517 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,640 The Dane. Yeah, the guy's called Ham 1518 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,240 someone. Oh Cam music. 1519 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:24,320 Oh, that guy can be the. Storyline is is we've got rid of 1520 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,440 Christine Aguilera storyline and we followed him. 1521 01:20:26,440 --> 01:20:28,000 He's just a barman. Yeah, you're right. 1522 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:32,440 Barman that has a girlfriend and it's just kind of Yeah, it's the 1523 01:20:32,440 --> 01:20:33,960 same. Yeah, you're right. 1524 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,240 They are the. Homo. 1525 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,800 Whatever he wrote, he wrote, let me show you how to bless. 1526 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,960 So we all know he is a massive vendor. 1527 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,920 But the other thing I find really funny and obviously like 1528 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,680 they they had to be really careful with this, but it's so 1529 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,080 funny how they just kind of skirt round. 1530 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,720 No, like big legends like lies is not in the corner. 1531 01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,760 Like, you know, it's like, oh. Truman Capote. 1532 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,240 I need to go out the way. Is what's true about a 1533 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,880 problematic with children? Oh God, I hope not. 1534 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:08,080 Because there was that paedo E boy Angel lowering down from the 1535 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,040 ceiling and I was just like, are they painting him as an old 1536 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,400 paedo? By what? 1537 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,520 But yeah, I just find it funny how it was like they didn't even 1538 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,920 attempt to give us a share or Donna Summer or. 1539 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,920 I think I saw someone who was meant to look like divine, maybe 1540 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,640 for one frame. Yeah. 1541 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,840 And you get Yeah, and you get Andy Warhol. 1542 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,880 Oh, God, yeah. Of course, the Andy Warhol. 1543 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,280 Oh, yeah. They also clearly at some point 1544 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,080 thought that Michael Myers in a prosthetic nose playing this 1545 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,560 character was going to be an Oscar winning. 1546 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,880 Role and. I love that people in Hollywood 1547 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,440 are still so transparent with this. 1548 01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:43,120 It's like, let's make them look different and they'll win an 1549 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,760 Oscar. They still fall for it, don't 1550 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,120 they? I think there is an argument in 1551 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:51,160 the directors in the in the gay version for a supporting Oscar 1552 01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:52,520 nomination for Mike Myers in this. 1553 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,000 Movie really OK. But it is on the edge of like, 1554 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,600 he's kind of doing it. It's kind of bad, but it's kind 1555 01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,400 of good, but it's kind of bad and like it's on that. 1556 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,400 It's dancing on that line. But because it's in a better 1557 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,960 movie, you're like, yeah, I think I can give it. 1558 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,560 Literally in my film, all he does is he just tries to suck 1559 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:12,360 people's Dicks. He gets too high and he let's 1560 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,120 some people into a club and then fight as a secretary, not an 1561 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,560 accountant. It's hard to take a movie this 1562 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,320 bad and be like, anyone is worthy of an Oscar in this 1563 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,600 movie. But when the movie is much 1564 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,680 better, you're like, OK, yeah, I can see it. 1565 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,080 What did the director do after this? 1566 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,320 He didn't really get to do much. Shit, so this this like I. 1567 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,240 Think maybe his career is coming, coming back round since 1568 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,440 this has happened, but yeah. That's so upsetting. 1569 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,320 Should we rate it? We should rate it, yeah. 1570 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,840 Oh, yeah. I think I'm going to just rate 1571 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,040 both, OK. And you don't, you can just rate 1572 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,680 the one that you saw. Yeah, I mean, what I will say is 1573 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,760 the version I saw as a Merrill is, is terrible. 1574 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,520 So I can't, I can't comment on the version you've seen. 1575 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,880 And it's like really bad. It's like shameful levels of 1576 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:06,600 quality. It's just got like a 90s glaze 1577 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,200 on it that just does nothing. So as a film, I'm going to say 1578 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,920 it's like a 2. Yeah, I think I'd probably say 1579 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:17,400 the same and maybe 3 Merrill's for the the heady version and 1580 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,480 for the gay version, I think it's more like A7. 1581 01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:24,680 Yeah, that's wild, isn't it? Wild. 1582 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,760 Maybe, maybe that's a bit too generous, but and maybe like I 1583 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,200 want it to be better than it was, but it's, it's really hard 1584 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:35,320 to tell. But yeah like 6 or 7 and then 1585 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:40,440 Liza. I would say the gay version is 1586 01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:46,000 less camp now than the heady version, which is so weird to 1587 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,000 say, but somehow being afraid of all the gay stuff is much camper 1588 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,680 than actually just making a bisexual movie. 1589 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,480 Yeah, And like, as well, like, it's such a weird thing because 1590 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,360 like, obviously I was going to go so low camp on this knowing 1591 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,040 that they just sanitized it for heterosexual audiences. 1592 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,800 But now that the gay version has come back and only further 1593 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:13,000 highlights how shit the hetero thing is, we're now in a thing 1594 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,800 where this is suddenly becoming camp again because of this 1595 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,440 existence. And I think if he hadn't have 1596 01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:20,000 released this film, I would be like, no way. 1597 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,440 Yeah, yeah. I think without the meta 1598 01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:27,440 context, it's probably like, I don't know, A4 Lizers. 1599 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,920 And I think with it, I'm, I'm also tempted to kind of go into 1600 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,720 like A7. Perfect. 1601 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,520 Yeah. Well, having heard all of the 1602 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,480 kind of plot points that have just completely solved and like 1603 01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:40,760 better things and then what they're masking, I'm going to 1604 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,480 give it a six. My version It's quite calm. 1605 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,800 And then I think I'll give the gay version. 1606 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,760 It's got queer joy so I'll give it 6 Lizers. 1607 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,000 I'll give it six eyes. It's very confusing story. 1608 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,200 Very confusing. There you go. 1609 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:04,360 If you are listening, yeah, watch the gay version and then 1610 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:08,680 if you need more just go watch some of the extra scenes from 1611 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,920 the petty. Version I will say one thing. 1612 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,960 It is such an because we hear this all the time about test 1613 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,120 audiences, don't we? And like we've all seen like 1614 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,080 directors cuts, but I don't think I've ever seen anything in 1615 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,400 this like level of commercial film that's been this much 1616 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,520 chopped around because of it being too gay. 1617 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:30,640 So it's a really interesting, like educational thing to, if 1618 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,480 you're like interested in in Hollywood and cinema, totally 1619 01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:37,320 kind of see what the how the studio works and what kind of 1620 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:38,840 implications. Because there's lots of films 1621 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,840 where on paper they look great and then we know test audiences 1622 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,240 have taken out the ending and we see the final product. 1623 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:45,920 Yeah. So yeah, it just makes me want 1624 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,400 to like, see more uncut stuff. Totally. 1625 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,120 Yeah. I think it's so interesting. 1626 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:54,320 It's so bizarre to me that 54 has ended up being one of the 1627 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,160 movies I've like, had to do the most research. 1628 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:04,920 Like I've watched it two to three times and like had to 1629 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,200 consume so much media just comparing the two. 1630 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,360 It's like I don't need this much brain space for 54. 1631 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,840 But also, even that is just kind of camp to me. 1632 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,480 Yeah, it's occupied. Yeah. 1633 01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,960 It's like quite mediocre movie. You are now like the expert 1634 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,920 expert. On Well, there you go. 1635 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:29,080 That's 54. What a what a roller coaster 1636 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,040 it's been. I think you know what I don't 1637 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,720 know about you, but I need some cocaine. 1638 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,240 Bye. Get away from her, you bitch.