1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,840 Get away from her you bitch. Classic. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,080 He was in the Amazon cry along when she was researching spiders 3 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:17,120 right before she died. No, I thought you could go 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,680 prostitute or go get it. I. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,440 Used to love doggy chow. I used to love doggy chow too. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,600 Tonight we nail that fart blossom. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,720 I'm Crystal. Wow. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,640 And we can build this dream together, standing strong 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,520 forever. Nothing's going to stop us now. 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,840 And if this world runs out of lovers, we'll still have each 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,320 other. Nothing's going to stop us now. 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Oh whoa, I'm baby lame. Are you sure nothing's going to 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,200 stop us? You sound a little croaky. 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Oh bitch, I am dying. Good Morning, America. 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Do you know what I am? Going to stop us now. 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,240 This was the first time in my life I was thinking the other 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,640 day, I've been ill for a couple of days and yesterday I was in 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,600 bed ill and I was thinking, wow, I'm actually just delaying death 19 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,560 now. That's what illness is for me. 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,840 That's like, rather than, well, I just feel like when you're a 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,960 bit younger, you're just like, oh, I'm, you know, I'm ill, you 22 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:24,880 know, you get over it and I'm like, oh, no, no, I'm just, this 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,800 could be it. Yeah, this is basically it's 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,840 just like I'm just delaying it and the inevitable is is gonna 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,560 hit me soon. Right. 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,720 You're like, this is what death will feel like when it comes. 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Yeah. And it's just around that and. 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,160 I'm putting it off a bit longer, but ultimately death is 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,000 happening, so we're. All heading into that big wood 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,400 chipper, welcome to Camp Classics. 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Podcasts about stupid movies. Every two weeks we take a weird 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,120 old movie and try and figure out why the hell gay people like it. 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Yeah, that's it really. All in search of the campus of 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Camp Classics baby. Today I'm standing on business. 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Oh God, yeah, I feel stressed. So when? 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,040 We've got so much business to get there. 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,120 There's. Always so much. 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Well, we're in the right place. Like we're in the Camp Classics 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,039 HQ. Canary Wharf, I. 40 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:12,720 Can't believe I just said HQ like that. 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,200 When was that time we saw each other? 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,680 It's been 84 years, quite a while ago. 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,720 Like it's been 84 years. I've got a beard now. 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,560 I know what's happened I. Don't know. 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,640 I don't know. How was Brazil? 46 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:31,040 Great, I'm I'm riddled also. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the good 47 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,480 way. In all the ways, actually, yeah. 48 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,200 Good, bad. It's coming out of me like lava. 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,760 What are your top three favorite things about Brazil? 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,800 Oh gosh, caprinias. Like a cartoon Basic. 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,440 What am I supposed to say? The sun? 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Ipanema beach? Brazilian butts? 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,600 How about that? Yeah, OK. 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,280 I think yeah, they. Really know how to do a a a 55 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,080 booty. Well, if you follow Crystal on 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,960 socials, you'll see that she was wearing quite some fetching 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,480 bejeweled bikinis as well. Cultural appropriation or 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,040 appreciate appreciation? What do Brazilians own? 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,480 Bejeweled bikinis. Yes they do. 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Yes, they do do Brazilians. Own a thong baby. 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Yeah, I think it was just so fucking good. 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,320 I highly recommend it. They said come to Brazil and 63 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,560 they were right. But didn't you say as well that 64 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,960 like literally it's just you saw you bumped into loads of Oh my 65 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,920 God, it's. Just East London on on on sea. 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,240 So many like, oh, hey, oh, hi. That's not the way it's meant to 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,440 be. I know, I know. 68 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,200 It's just gays. We've got no, we've got no 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,880 originality. What could you say someone 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,480 compared it to? I found that. 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Oh, cancer. Yeah, they said gays are a 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,920 cancer. And like, you know, a few cells 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,480 arrive and then they just start multiplying. 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,280 And before you know it, you're just seeing the same familiar 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,360 tired old druggy faces at every party around the world. 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Gay, Right? And you know what? 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,600 I love that for us. Yeah. 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Oh, that's like we're just. Going around ruining things that 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,160 have, you know, like burning men that. 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Have ruined us that have ruined us. 81 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,760 It's time for revenge. We talk about this a lot on the 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,920 podcast. Burn it all to the ground, No. 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,720 More gay pride, just gay revenge. 84 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,040 But yeah, me too. Yeah, also, this is going to be 85 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,080 gross to listen to. So sorry everyone. 86 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,760 Sorry for the sniffles. Hacking up leaks. 87 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,960 It's not anatomy. Like what? 88 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,880 At least you've got an amazing film to talk about. 89 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,360 Today isn't going to be a hard one. 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,840 We can not get there yet. We've got so much business to 91 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:39,280 get through. Firstly, as you may have heard 92 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:43,880 in our last episode where I teased, we are doing a live 93 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,200 event at the BFI. That sounds really good, I'm not 94 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,400 going to lie. It's like. 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,240 And it's sold out. And as part of What Flag 96 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,040 Festival, which is the UK's most recognized LGBTQ plus Film 97 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,080 Festival 40 years in? No big deal. 98 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,400 And it's sold. Out you know what? 99 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,600 And they said we need camp classics. 100 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,280 They did. They said we you know what? 101 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:10,520 This festival's missing camp. Yeah, a bit of camp. 102 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,720 They were like, we are like such a recognized huge prestigious 103 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,200 LGBTQ plus event. We need to find someone not 104 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,400 established small. We could have brought anyone 105 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,040 into this show. Paula Abdul, Janet Jackson, We 106 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,440 wanted Know me. We could have brought anyone 107 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,800 into this show. Yeah, and here we are. 108 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,320 I know. I'm excited for it and we've got 109 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,560 some guests as well. We do, yeah. 110 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,240 And it's, we'd love to invite you, but it's sold out. 111 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,320 It's sold out. It's sold out in seconds. 112 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Seconds. That just sounds so great and I 113 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,400 I message you, but no, I still sit on my humble like life 114 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,160 because on that sense you've got that. 115 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,920 And then another event I'm doing is hold sold like 10 tickets. 116 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,680 So I just love. It's just life, isn't it? 117 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,560 The balance of life. Got to keep you humble. 118 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,160 How dare you be successful at anything, you're a worthless 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,240 piece of shit. Listen, I only, I only say that 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,440 to you off my cup, give you a bit of enthusiasm for the 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,600 episode. You're not supposed to take it 122 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,240 to heart. Sorry. 123 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,280 But yeah, it should be good. We're doing that at the end of 124 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:14,560 March. I guess we're going to try to 125 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,640 record it, so maybe we'll release it. 126 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,960 If I guess we need to work out what we're doing as well, that's 127 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,160 the other thing, we haven't actually worked out what this 128 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,840 live event consists of so lol. Yeah, but that's very good bit 129 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:28,880 of pressure. Also, we've had lots of new 130 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,520 comments. Turns out on Apple podcast I was 131 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,240 only reading the UK comments and there's all kinds of comments 132 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,160 from around the world. As we know, no one in the UK 133 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,520 listens to this podcast anyway. Yeah, so there were loads of 134 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,040 comments from the US So if you've been listening in the US 135 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,400 and leaving us reviews on Apple Podcasts, thank you. 136 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:44,760 I didn't see them. No. 137 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,720 Well, what? Ask them. 138 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,120 Yeah, but I've got this one to read. 139 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:48,520 This is AJ. OK? 140 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,360 I love this podcast so much. It strikes the exact right 141 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,640 balance between funny and substantive, and the movies Baby 142 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,000 and Crystal have chosen for entry into the camp pantheon are 143 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,600 all excellent or have at least made for good shows. 144 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,520 I have a couple of good laughs every episode and usually end up 145 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,200 with something that stays with me, whether it's about 146 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,040 representation or queer joy or just a reminder of something, to 147 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,920 quote non-stop to my boyfriend until he has driven sufficiently 148 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,560 insane. And we of that. 149 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Also, I've been so many episodes in the last few days that I 150 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,400 dreamed about meeting Baby and Crystal at a party and I feel 151 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,720 duty bound to apologize to Crystal for how terribly my 152 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,920 subconscious styled your hair in the dream. 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Very Richard Simmons for some reason. 154 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,040 So we are now, we are now infiltrating our listeners 155 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,400 dreams. What kind of dream was it? 156 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,320 I wanted to think it would be like a wet dream, but I think it 157 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,640 might be like a night terror. Well, if it was if I looked like 158 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,720 Richard Simmons, it was definitely sexy. 159 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,200 Anyway, thank you, AJ. That's nice. 160 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,120 And there's a bunch more and maybe I'll read some of the next 161 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,560 read another one. I don't have any more. 162 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,600 Oh, here there's. So many. 163 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,280 There are more, but I didn't write them down. 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Oh OK, we've got more suggestions for the suggestion 165 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,480 set. Oh, brilliant. 166 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Yeah, we've written them here. Let's let's see what we've got. 167 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,280 Romeo and Michelle Oh, I'm excited for Lisa Cadrew's coming 168 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,800 back with the comeback. Yes. 169 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,240 You don't watch the comeback, do you? 170 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,880 Oh, we've had this conversation. I keep trying to watch it, it 171 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,480 depresses me too much. I I cringe so hard that I can't 172 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,680 watch it. Yeah, this is. 173 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,600 I find it so bizarre because I bet loads of our listeners love 174 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,200 the comeback as well. It's like one of my favorite 175 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,400 programs ever. I've watched season, I finally 176 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,120 got through season 1 and then I tried to watch. 177 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,200 Season what? No, but. 178 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,760 Honestly I just feel so bad for her watching it because she 179 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,360 plays it so well anyway. Scream Three. 180 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,440 Yeah. Jackie's back. 181 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,080 Oh, I love. What's her name with, you know, 182 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,120 that film? I haven't seen that. 183 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,960 I've seen the trailer of it, but it's it's with, you know, 184 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,440 Jennifer Lewis. You know, yeah, amazing. 185 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,600 So one of the most intense people in the world? 186 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,200 Yes, she went viral in that song. 187 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:53,080 I don't want Nobody fucking with me in the streets. 188 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,360 Yeah, great serial mum. That's already in the sack. 189 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,120 Surely John Waters. Yeah. 190 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,560 Oh, oh, someone's doing something with John Waters. 191 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:04,000 Legend. I don't know if you've seen the 192 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,800 BFI as well. You've got another BFI event. 193 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,600 I've got another BFI event. I'm going to be supporting 194 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Peaches Christ and Mink Stoll in their show First Time. 195 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,560 Tickets available for that. They go on sale on the 10th of 196 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:20,640 March I believe. But yeah, first time he's never 197 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,680 been to the UK, so there we go. So I'm just, you know, I'm Abfi 198 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,960 girlie, what can I say? Drowning Mona. 199 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,560 Never heard of that. Oh, that's another NEF Campbell. 200 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Oh God, don't even get me fucking started on Nef Campbell. 201 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Because obviously Scream 7 is our but. 202 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,640 It's also Bette Midler. Which I haven't seen Scream 7 203 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,200 yet, but obviously she's doing the rounds on every single like 204 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,120 YouTube station, every single TV and that's smug face. 205 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,320 Well, you'll be pleased to know we're supposed to boycott 206 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,920 screens. Yeah, because they kicked off 207 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,680 because. Yeah. 208 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,240 Yeah. Best in show, Great film. 209 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,640 Jennifer Coolidge and Beetlejuice. 210 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:57,160 Oh great. There's some good Oh yeah, 211 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,800 Catherine. That couple of those are 212 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Catherine O'Hara pics. Yeah, Paul, Catherine, of course 213 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,520 I can't. No, no, we can RIP people when 214 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,600 they're dead. We're just not allowed to 215 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,520 badmouth living people. Except Neve. 216 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,120 Campbell I just felt like you can't just go. 217 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Oh, Paul. Catherine Like, it doesn't 218 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,760 really work like that, does it? RIP to such a distinguished 219 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,440 actress that has done a lot for the cinematic world. 220 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,840 In the Lee of a picturesque Ridge lies a small, 221 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,320 unpretentious winery. Thank you for the suggestions, 222 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,800 SAC suggestions. Keep them coming. 223 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,800 They're going straight in our sack, and maybe we'll despunk 224 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,600 the sack at the end of this. Episode oh exciting and we've 225 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,560 been edging me for a while so. We've got a Patreon, as you 226 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:42,600 know, you get a bonus episode every month. 227 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,960 Last episode was on Fucking hell Amelia Perez. 228 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,560 Oh, I've never seen that film. Yeah. 229 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Should I subscribe to the Gate John to listen to it? 230 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,800 I mean, you should be subscribed anyway, frankly. 231 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Yeah, because actually I don't get to hear those ones. 232 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,400 So I'm like. That is a fucking crazy movie. 233 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,200 But yes, you should because obviously it's a weird movie 234 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,440 that is enhanced by our amazing commentary. 235 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,360 OK, great. Sue and I is amazing commentary. 236 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,200 Oh God, let me tell you, listening to C is the right 237 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,080 refreshing breather on this podcast. 238 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Yeah, she got some good feedback actually. 239 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Yeah, I'm sure there's always someone younger and hungrier 240 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,080 coming down the stairs after you. 241 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,560 Yeah, £4 a month. What's that? 242 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:31,320 What can you get for £4 a month like a bottle? 243 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,200 Not much these days. A bottle of poppers? 244 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,720 Maybe not even. Yeah. 245 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,160 So this it is a. Bar, I mean, I guess you could 246 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,480 go to the supermarket, you could probably get like a really basic 247 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,520 economy loaf of bread you could probably get. 248 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,600 Meal deal. Yeah, but I'm thinking, I'm 249 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,400 thinking we want to like sort of expand it a bit more. 250 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,720 You could probably get some like hints of lentils. 251 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,000 You could probably get a bag of pasta, a small bag of salt 252 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,480 perhaps and that probably bringing you up to like 320. 253 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,280 So you maybe could, I don't know, get. 254 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,080 Alfredo. Yeah, Alfredo, there you go. 255 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,520 So there is actually quite a lot you can get with 4 lbs. 256 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,240 OK, but not as much as a bonus episode, no. 257 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:10,880 Of Camp Classics. Yeah. 258 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,880 Yeah, we've got loads of new Patreon members since we last 259 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:20,600 recorded Lorcan, Ida, Laura, Sophia, Alex, Jade and Karen. 260 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,280 Welcome folks, Thanks for being here. 261 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Yeah, oh, how lovely for you to join us. 262 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Thank you. Also, just on the Patreon, on 263 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,480 the Patreon, someone asked, I think it was Amanda, if we could 264 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,040 make all of our episodes available on Patreon. 265 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,280 And so I have. So now if you listen in Patreon, 266 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,520 you can listen to the main feed there too. 267 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,040 So you can just listen to everything straight in that app. 268 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:46,120 Our whole world is sitting there on a computer. 269 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,240 It's in the computer. We're also on YouTube now. 270 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,520 I know, are we? I didn't know that. 271 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Yeah, we're on YouTube now. So you can apparently loads of 272 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,600 people in America listen to podcasts on YouTube. 273 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,080 Oh, OK, put us on YouTube. We're on YouTube now. 274 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,040 OK, great. You can listen and. 275 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,560 I just, like, signed away my likeness to you, yeah. 276 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,720 Yeah, yeah, I'm actually creating an AI version of you 277 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,720 who will be Co hosting the podcast when you're unavailable 278 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,960 and hopefully we'll just start phasing you out entirely. 279 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,840 Please do, please do. It'll probably be more 280 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,360 insightful listening to AI slot than me. 281 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,040 I think that's all the business. We did it. 282 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,960 That wasn't so bad. God. 283 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Baby though, before we get into today's movie, what makes a camp 284 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,800 classic? We want something that unlocks 285 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,720 queer joy. I want to get a tingle all over 286 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,000 my body in every single hole and I want to tremor with joy. 287 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,200 It needs to be stupid. It needs to have an ongoing 288 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,880 legacy and something that informs queer pop culture. 289 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,520 It needs to be anti mainstream underdog prop vibes that has 290 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,080 been reclaimed by the F slurs God damn it. 291 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,840 And this F slur is wondering what movie we're covering today. 292 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:01,000 It's mannequin suggested by Jade. 293 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,080 This is a suggestion sack pick. What is your history? 294 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,040 With mannequin regret the suggestion sack straight away. 295 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,200 What's your history with Mannequin? 296 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,280 Well, as like a young gay, I loved it. 297 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,240 I haven't seen it for a very, very long time, but yeah, it was 298 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,120 one of those sort of like comfort films as a it was always 299 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,800 on TV. Like obviously everyone knew the 300 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,600 song. Like I think it's sort of 301 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,080 aligned with Playing with Dolls as well, because obviously she's 302 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,720 the mannequin and she's got different outfits and it's not 303 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,080 that deep, but could. You play with dolls. 304 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,080 I've hate dolls all the time until I wasn't allowed to at 305 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,320 school. Mrs. Skinner stopped me from 306 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,120 playing with dolls. Would be Mrs. Skinner. 307 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,520 Yeah. And she like, yeah, made me go 308 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,640 and play with the boys. It was fucking horrible. 309 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Isn't that sad? Oh, I'm sorry, that is actually. 310 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,840 Really sad. I'm not even another sad thing 311 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,480 as well. Like I remember I used to love 312 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,360 wearing some like green lame leggings as hair as like a wig 313 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,960 and I'd always wear these like green leggings on my head about 314 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,360 this and then also like and I was forced to not wear those as 315 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,760 a wig anymore. You get back in, you're just 316 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,520 like, fucking hell, this country and what they do to little queer 317 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,000 kids, I think. That still happens. 318 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,320 I feel like maybe that doesn't anymore, although it might be. 319 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Rewarding, Yeah, but. Yeah. 320 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,520 But sad, sad, sad memories. It's sort of linked. 321 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,360 This film sort of links to my childhood tragedy about being, 322 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,560 you know, a struggling queer kid. 323 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,000 And so, you know, it's actually really interesting that you 324 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,120 asked me to talk about this because it's like, you know, I'm 325 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,240 looking at this from like a camp sort of adjacent place now, but 326 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,800 also I'm linking it back to like a childhood. 327 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,120 You only have edit control though. 328 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,800 Right. I'm just like, as I'm feeling 329 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,800 ill, I'm dragging everyone down with me on this episode. 330 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,160 What about you, Crystal? What's your relationship with 331 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,360 this movie? I can't really remember, I've 332 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,560 seen it before. I watched it again this week and 333 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,760 it wasn't what I remembered. Hey. 334 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Do you want to play a quick game or something? 335 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,000 Oh sure, It's like a really really like non creative game, 336 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,320 but who's better, Sarah Jessica Parker or Kim Cattrall? 337 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,240 Wow, actually. Because it's like, obviously 338 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,720 they can't be. You can't. 339 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,680 You can't see Kim Cattrall without thinking of her enemy, 340 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,120 Sarah Jessica Parker. So I just want you. 341 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,720 I just want to know. Who's no, I like I like building 342 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,520 them both up so that they're both at peak power to really 343 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,160 continue this battle. I want it to just I want them to 344 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,240 be sparring forever. They're like he man and 345 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,320 Skeletor. They're opposites. 346 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,480 You too. Well, obviously Sarah Jessica 347 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Parker with her Wiz and Tans is Skeletor. 348 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Oh dear. You know that's why people say 349 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,400 I've got Wiz and Tans, right? Because of Sarah Jessica Parker. 350 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Not because they're wizened. Yeah, because they're wizened, 351 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:43,040 but because the Daily Mail once did like a gotcha of like SJPSJP 352 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:48,320 looked stunning at a red carpet event, but her hands she brushed 353 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,520 away a golden lock with a wizened hand. 354 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,640 Wrinkled, wrinkled little star. The most disgusting journalism. 355 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,240 But that is so horrible. It's so horrible, but. 356 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,600 But it makes complete sense when I look at your wizard as because 357 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:09,200 wizard, wizard, they are witchy. It's my favorite thing about 358 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,440 you, though, because as soon as anyone's like, oh, Crystal's so 359 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,240 hot, I'm just like, look at the hands. 360 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,920 Well, I'll take the compliment that was buried in there. 361 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,040 Better get digging bitches deep, deep down. 362 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:33,680 We're covering mannequin now. This movie, the idea for this 363 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,400 film came when director Michael Gottlieb was walking down 5th 364 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Ave. and thought he saw a mannequin move in the window of 365 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,200 Bergdorf Goodman. And I'd say that's where the 366 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,080 ideas stopped. I don't. 367 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,680 You know, yeah, yeah. He's like, I've got an idea. 368 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,960 Isn't it based well or some just linked that it's based off of a? 369 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,520 Greek myth. A Greek myth? 370 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,480 Yeah. It is. 371 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,560 It's based off Pygmalion a bit and maybe a movie called One 372 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,760 Touch of Venus from 1948 which I'm not familiar with. 373 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:07,840 It stars Andrew McCarthy, who was cast after test of his films 374 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,400 shown showed that he strongly appealed to girls who were the 375 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,800 target audience. Sure, Jan. 376 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,400 Sure. Great. 377 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,120 Yeah. But more importantly, the movie 378 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:21,160 stars Kim Cattrall. Which, Shock horror. 379 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,800 She was older than him. Yeah. 380 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,120 When I was looking for trivia, that was one of the biggest 381 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,160 things that came up. It's like, wow. 382 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,680 Well, Kim Cattrall was six years older than her. 383 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,680 Her love interest in the film, It's like, is that, is that 384 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,080 where we've got to? Honestly, there is. 385 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,080 There's not a lot written about this movie. 386 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,960 You can't normally like we cover a movie and I'm like, oh, 387 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,040 there's lots of things I can dig into for research. 388 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,520 There's not a lot here. I do have some IMDb trivia for 389 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,320 you. Go on to go on No as I'll. 390 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,640 Get to it as it comes. Through, but it's Slim Pickens. 391 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,800 But yeah, we've got Kim Cattrall. 392 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,560 Welcome to the podcast, Kim Cattrall. 393 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,200 No, she's been here before. Crossroads. 394 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,400 Yes, crossroads. Better ray for cable window 395 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,520 Latin equals only as a cameo. Yeah, but she's. 396 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Yeah. So now it's her full time glory. 397 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Yeah, if you haven't listened to the Crossroads episodes, King 398 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,120 Cattrall basically just comes in and she clearly only had one day 399 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:17,760 filming and doesn't do much. Yeah, she's just, she's just 400 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,760 there to be a cow, which is really what you want Kim 401 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,520 Cattrall to. Do basically and Kim Cattrall 402 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,520 doesn't do it enough in my mind. No, yeah, I agree. 403 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,240 It's weird watching her in this movie where she's playing like 404 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,920 very against the type that we know her of. 405 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:35,920 Yeah, she's just kind of like a fun leading lady in this, isn't? 406 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,960 She Yeah. Manic Pixie dream girl. 407 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,760 What? Do you not know what about a 408 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,200 manic Pixie dream girl? No. 409 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,560 So manic Pixie dream girl is this like trope in movies of 410 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:53,080 like that spunky creative free spirited female lead whose only 411 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,400 purpose is there to like help the struggling male lead. 412 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,520 And there's many, many, many, many examples. 413 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,400 Like have you seen 500 Days of Summer? 414 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,000 No. Zooey Deschanel is like that, 415 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,800 the classic. But like Kristen Dunst has done 416 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,320 it, Natalie Portman's done. It Yeah, like now. 417 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,840 You said that as a choke. Yeah, OK, I fully understand. 418 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,200 Kate Winslet in Eternal Sunshine. 419 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,880 You know, like I'm this zany free spirited girl and I'm here 420 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,120 to like basically save the poor struggling man. 421 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,400 OK, right life. Then yeah, I, I, I thought that 422 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,360 watching this movie and I was like, Oh my God, I'm going to go 423 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:31,760 on Letterbox and I'm going to write Mannequin Pixie Dream Girl 424 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,240 and I am so smart. And it was obviously the first 425 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,520 comment already on Letterbox. I'm like OK, I've got no 426 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,760 original thoughts. No, I was the same because when 427 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,840 I was watching this, I was like, Oh my God, I was like, what came 428 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,240 first? This will splash because I'm 429 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,480 seeing like a duality between. Anyone's ever thought? 430 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,880 Yeah. And then I like looked and 431 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,200 there's like lots of episodes where they're comparing them 432 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,880 like bomb podcasts and things, and it's like, yeah, OK, yeah, 433 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,200 great. Sounds like great bass. 434 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,960 Bass level. This movie also stars Estelle 435 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,280 Getty AKA Sofia from Golden Girls. 436 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Yep, and James Spader and. That guy from police Academy. 437 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,000 As well. And that guy from police 438 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,840 Academy, EW, something. Kim Cattrall apparently spent 439 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:21,440 six weeks posing for sculptor Tanya Raguer, who captured her 440 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,360 likeness. They made six mannequins based 441 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,720 off of her, each with a different expression. 442 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,680 Wow. That's the that's the 443 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,440 scintillating kind of fact you come to this podcast for. 444 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,320 It had a budget of $8 million and apparently it took 445 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,840 $43,000,000 in North America. So it's a big hit, and it was a 446 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,400 big enough hit that it had a sequel, Mannequin 2. 447 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,640 I've never. Seen the sequel? 448 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,080 Me neither. Apparently it's much worse, if 449 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,360 you can believe it. That's that's an achievement, 450 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:52,400 isn't it? Yeah, and it stars Kirstie 451 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,000 Swanson, who we remember from Buffy the movie. 452 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,040 Oh God, yeah, Oh God, she's. Terrible. 453 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,080 Yeah. MAGA Kirsty Swanson. 454 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,560 Believe it or not, this movie is not. 455 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,800 Wasn't Oscar nominated though? No, I did know that. 456 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Diane Warren. Hard girl Diane Warren best 457 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,800 original song. I mean, it is, it's one of those 458 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,880 songs that like dips in and out of like I kind of feel like my 459 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,160 current space of it is I kind of love the song. 460 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,800 I love. But for ages I associated it 461 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,440 with things like X Factor and stuff like really shit. 462 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,120 Like Oh yeah, I see what you mean. 463 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:28,080 But now it's just like, Oh my God, that. 464 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,120 Slaps. Yeah, yeah, it. 465 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,120 Really. Where's that woman sings. 466 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,240 Let them see you with crazy. I don't do. 467 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,520 About that, there's something about like film soundtracks of 468 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,160 the late 80s and 90s, Dirty Dancing as well. 469 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,160 You know, I've had the time in my life just like. 470 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,120 Yeah, well, that's what this movie lost to. 471 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,680 Oh, is that what it lost to? Oh, OK. 472 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,400 Well, understandably also these these kind of faceless voices. 473 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080 I don't know what these stars stars, what they called Star 474 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,280 cities, Starship Troopers. Starship Troopers Denise 475 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,840 Richards. It's actually Denise Richards 476 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,320 singing this. No, it's Jefferson. 477 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,680 Starship or Starship. Or maybe they're just called 478 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Starship. You would not know what they 479 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,280 look like, would you? No, but like just those. 480 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:15,000 Name is Grace Slick. Oh, yeah. 481 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,160 Hi. Grace Yeah. 482 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,960 I love the way she sings. Crazy, crazy. 483 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,520 Let them say we're crazy. Imagine being in the booth and 484 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,560 just being like, let them say we're crazy. 485 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,720 And then it's like, hold up a second. 486 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,400 Yeah, no, I want to add some flavour. 487 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,480 To this, I'm going to be like, hey, hey guys, what if I do? 488 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,640 Let's say we're crazy, crazy, crazy. 489 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Go on, Grace Slick, the critics did not like this movie. 490 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,760 I don't believe you. It's. 491 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Got 20% on Rotten Tomatoes. Savaged by the critics, Leonard 492 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,040 Moulton said. Absolute rock bottom. 493 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,440 Fair. Dispiriting for anyone who 494 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,480 remembers what movie comedy should be. 495 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,760 Oh, do you know what you've done there? 496 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,360 You've accidentally read one of our Apple Podcasts. 497 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,160 Silly you. Rita Kempley of The Washington 498 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,480 Post called the film made by For and About Dummies. 499 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Yep. Rita was cooking when she wrote. 500 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,040 Oh, she was and can. You imagine her sat there typing 501 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,840 it like sending a life period. Send to editor. 502 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000 And then dusting her hands. Afterwards, yeah, I did find 1 503 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,720 positive review. Dan McQuaid, who was writing in 504 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,640 Philadelphia magazine, said truly the most uplifting film 505 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,840 ever made about the city. What? 506 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,760 He's just pro Philly. OK. 507 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,240 Yeah. And then? 508 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,040 What does it what, what about it? 509 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,160 Screams Philadelphia. Honestly, but it is more 510 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,920 uplifting than the film of Philadelphia. 511 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,360 Yes, I guess there's that. The Rotten Tomatoes. 512 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,480 I guess they're the only two films you've got. 513 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,440 Yeah. You're comparing. 514 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,360 You are like, thank God we've got this. 515 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,080 Yeah. The other one's quite 516 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,840 depressing. The Rotten Tomatoes consensus 517 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,160 says Mannequin is a real dummy, outfitted with a ludicrous 518 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,160 concept and a painfully earnest script that never springs to 519 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,640 life despite the best efforts of an impossibly charming Kim 520 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,360 Cattrall. Do we agree? 521 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:15,720 We'll. Find out best efforts. 522 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,600 And then the last thing I want to say about the context. 523 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,000 You know the tagline of this movie. 524 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,640 No, some guys have all the luck. OK. 525 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,400 What does that mean? Because what is what is the 526 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,080 fetish of fucking mannequins? I don't know but. 527 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,320 It's out there. Yeah, it is. 528 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,720 It's a real fetish. I actually think it, yes, 100%. 529 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800 I can't pronounce it. I guess everything's a fetish, 530 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,480 really. It is, but then it led me to 531 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,000 watching some mannequin porn earlier before just to see how 532 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,320 different it was. Now is that different to fucking 533 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,240 like a sex doll? I think they're of the same 534 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,040 family. OK, yeah. 535 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,000 I, you know, maybe unfairly all grouped together under the same 536 00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,760 title. Right. 537 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Yeah, yeah, I bet some people are really like, no, I'm only 538 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,920 into mannequins. It's our God sake, a gamut. 539 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080 I feel it's one of those things you have to just say with like 540 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,160 pure conviction, isn't it? So it's agomatophilia, 541 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,480 agomatophilia, agomatophilia. Agomatophilia. 542 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,960 Agomatophilia. In is a form of object sexuality 543 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,200 involving sexual attractions to statues, dolls, or mannequins. 544 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:33,800 It sounds like I could do again. Well, this is one of my IMDb 545 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,600 trivia things. Don't know why someone bothered 546 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,560 to write this. Two things director Michael 547 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000 Gottlieb took inspiration from his teenage years working in a 548 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,560 Macy's talk room. He was particularly inspired by 549 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,920 his own experiences with mannequins behind locked doors. 550 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:49,520 Oh wow. OK. 551 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,480 I don't think that's true. I couldn't, you know, Fact Check 552 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,360 that, but someone took the time to write it. 553 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,240 Also, this is another bit of trivia on IMDBLSD Researcher 554 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,160 Jerry Kelly convinced himself that this movie was real. 555 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,200 He was arrested multiple times for speaking and even at times 556 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480 groping and undressing mannequins at several different 557 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,480 retail shops. OK. 558 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,920 OK. Love. 559 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,560 Great, someone took the time to write that on the Internet. 560 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:17,280 Agadouphilia. I can't. 561 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,400 Remember what it's called? Agamatophilia. 562 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,240 Agamatophilia. No, God damn it, I'm going to do 563 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600 it. Agamatophilia. 564 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,760 Love it? Well. 565 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,960 If you are into that, we are. Going to This is the episode for 566 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Go. In. 567 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,160 So, opening scene, Ancient Egypt. 568 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,160 And we're really getting a vibe of how much research or depth 569 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,440 has gone into the creation of this movie because even at the 570 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,400 beginning, they are going a really long time ago. 571 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,560 Yeah, they're not even bothering to give it. 572 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:55,200 No, it's right before lunch and famous Egyptian Kim Cattrall is 573 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,280 a mummy is a mummy. She is hot, dressed up as a 574 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,040 mummy. In an escape room it looks like 575 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,240 the set is so cheap. True. 576 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,040 In an escape room. Yeah, it's very. 577 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,920 It's. Like follow the high, that's the 578 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,440 hieroglyphics on the wall. But. 579 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Crystal Maze. It's very Crystal Maze. 580 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,720 She's hiding from her arranged marriage and overbearing mother. 581 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,440 Who is decked out in the finest Smithies costume I've seen? 582 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,600 The pair of them, it's like you know what we need to make this 583 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,240 authentic. We're going to hire 2 white 584 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,280 ladies, but it's but a cobwebs. Yeah. 585 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,120 She doesn't want to get married, though, because she wants to be 586 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:35,320 an inventor and she prays to the gods to help her. 587 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,720 Yeah. And like, why did they like the 588 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,120 inventing? We'll get to the inventor story. 589 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Like, but it's so unnecessary and it really doesn't play out 590 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,000 at all. But sure. 591 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,840 OK. Yeah. 592 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,360 But then. But then they've got, you know, 593 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,960 like a very, like clever take on like, well, you know, if I, if 594 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,160 you know that if I thought women would be able to achieve 595 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,800 anything, then of course I'd fight for you. 596 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,520 That's what the mother says to her. 597 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,800 Very like knowing Rye. Like women? 598 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,440 Yeah, well, let's see what happens with that. 599 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,800 I bet she's going to achieve something really good in her 600 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,120 life. Like. 601 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,640 Like a window. The rules of feminism. 602 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,760 Aim high, girls. Fucking hell. 603 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Anyway, she pleads to the gods to save her, and she vanishes 604 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,080 before her mother's eyes. Then we get a cartoon montage. 605 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,800 Where she's a cat. Where she's now a woman of 606 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,400 colour slash cat, because they were like, we haven't cast an 607 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,560 Egyptian woman for this role, so now we'll make her one in this 608 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,320 cartoon. It's quite weird. 609 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,960 Yeah, I do love like this era. They used to love an animation. 610 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,880 Oh. I know I do. 611 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,960 Like that and I really there's something I've always enjoyed. 612 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,600 Animated montage intro Great. And it. 613 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,960 The Belinda Carlisle song. Yeah. 614 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,480 And you're also like when you're watching it, like, what does 615 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,680 this mean? And actually, it is kind of the 616 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840 narrative of her tale, isn't it? Yeah. 617 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Yeah. That this this spirit that she 618 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,360 is now has been floating around history. 619 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Yeah. Cavorting meeting famous for. 620 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:05,400 Columbus, Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Latoya, Suzanne, 621 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680 you name it. A jobless window dresser. 622 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,400 All they're all equally relevant, but yeah, it's cute 623 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,600 and it's AI like this song. I didn't know it before Linda 624 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Carlisle song. Then we're in 1987 Philadelphia, 625 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,040 and Jonathan Switcher is a sculptor. 626 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,880 Is he? Yeah. 627 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,720 This man says he's an artist. I don't know. 628 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,240 He's working at a mannequin warehouse and he finishes a 629 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,160 single female mannequin that he considers A masterpiece. 630 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,760 Now, are we supposed to understand that he has sculpted 631 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,200 this mannequin by hand because or is he just put arms? 632 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,640 Because that's it's actually like, it's like there's a bunch 633 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,880 of arms hanging up everywhere. Arms and legs. 634 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600 And you can literally just, I guess it's like pick a Mick to 635 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,680 make whatever you want. But yeah, apparently he's a 636 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,080 sculptor that's done that one, actually. 637 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,000 And also, why is it taking him that long? 638 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,800 I will say she has incredible tits. 639 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,600 Great, but it's such an unnecessary detail to the tits. 640 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,080 They've got like a pinkiness to the nipples. 641 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Breasts, Mama, they're called breasts. 642 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600 I wasn't looking at that. I was actually focused on her 643 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,360 face and she is beat. Beat down Mama I love. 644 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,680 This 80s makeup, it makes everybody look 45. 645 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,600 Yeah, it's so good. That's the thing I love about 646 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200 these films as well, because you're, you look at how old Kim 647 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,120 Cattrall was and she was like 30, wasn't she? 648 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,000 But it's like she looks older than she looked in Sex in the 649 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,120 City. It's incredible. 650 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,160 Yeah, wonderful. But yeah. 651 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,240 So he's an artist. I I don't know, I think his 652 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,880 artistry is limited to combining arms and legs. 653 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,360 And also as well we're we're meeting him and it's he's saying 654 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,920 he's built this thing, but he's still putting it together like. 655 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,400 He's done nothing. He's choosing arms and then oh, 656 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,120 oh, he's wrong. Sex, yeah, but oh. 657 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,440 God, imagine that. So I mean in this factory to the 658 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,000 like, you know, he said wrong sex. 659 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,920 You know, correct me if I'm wrong. 660 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,120 People that are into mannequins, but I didn't realize like 661 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,520 mannequins had like genitalia. I thought they were all like 662 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,960 barbied. You're right. 663 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,960 So as that, as in this mannequin factory, is there like one with 664 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,680 a big fuck fucking Dick and he's like, oh, wrong sex on that. 665 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,640 Do you know what I mean? Well he does then end up having 666 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280 sex with the mannequin, so maybe it's just that the lady ones 667 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,360 have holes. Listen, I have a mannequin in my 668 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,640 living room. You do. 669 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,440 It's. A child? 670 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,720 Oh God, no, no, no. But there's nothing, right? 671 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240 She has a heeled foot which I find very bizarre. 672 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,920 So it's it's like Barbie. Yeah. 673 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,920 So yeah, what is he doing? This fucking crazy man. 674 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,320 He gets fired from this job because he's spending too. 675 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Much time. What is he doing? 676 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,880 They're like, you work in a mannequin factory. 677 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,280 We need to make some mannequins and he's like, I can make one 678 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,720 of. Them I'm actually a sculptor. 679 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,440 Yeah, he's fucking mental. He's. 680 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,680 And then it makes you realise, actually, if you watch this 681 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,320 entire film through the gaze that this is a man who's 682 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,320 psychotic horror movie. Yeah. 683 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,240 Then actually it's just it could be a wonderful art house film. 684 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,960 Yeah, remake it, but like I want to see the creepy horror version 685 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,960 of this for sure. Yeah, no wonder he's sacked. 686 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920 I'm a sculptor. It's like your job is to put 687 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,040 arms on a mannequin. Please grow up. 688 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,360 But this one's special. Get out of here. 689 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,720 I need to fuck her. Yeah. 690 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520 So he gets fired and then he takes a number of odd jobs. 691 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Oh that was hilarious. Oh God, what a hilarious 692 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,560 montage. I mean the man can't even make a 693 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720 pizza. I did like though, that I think 694 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,440 he kills a small boy. There's like a boy who wants a 695 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,880 balloon and he wants the big balloon and the the boy just 696 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,520 flies off. Yes, I think that boy just. 697 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,280 Died later. We also find out that when he 698 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,960 worked in a restaurant, it basically set on fire. 699 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,640 That's true. Yeah, and he, he's an arsonist 700 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,800 again. He's he's. 701 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,440 Murdering. Children dangerous. 702 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,240 Falling in love with inanimate objects, killing small children 703 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,240 and setting fire at a restaurant? 704 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,760 You love it. He's got a girlfriend, Roxy. 705 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000 Who I kind of love. Actually, I love Roxy. 706 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,920 I'm into Do you know what I like about Roxy? 707 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,440 She's got standards. Yeah. 708 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,720 Yeah, exactly. And we're meant to like, vilify 709 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,720 her because she's like, this is my problem with these kind of 710 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,920 films. I struggle when obviously we're 711 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,000 meant to follow a straight man narrative, right? 712 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,840 And we're meant to like, feel sorry for him and like instantly 713 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,320 I'm switching off. Because yeah, no, I don't care, 714 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,920 don't care. So, So what? 715 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,280 We meet this psycho who has been moulding, supposedly moulding 716 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000 and sculpting A mannequin, which doesn't happen. 717 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,440 He's like, let children fly off. He's like, you literally can't 718 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,480 do anything. And his girlfriend is like, eye 719 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,080 rolling this and being like, oh, for fuck's sake, you lose her. 720 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480 Yeah, and we're meant to look at her as a villain all while she's 721 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719 got the Countius makeup and, like, shoulder pads on. 722 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,719 And I meant to hate this woman. I'm sorry you could never make 723 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,199 how feminism works. No, you could never make me hate 724 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,320 Roxy I. Mean, that's just, like, the 725 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,159 rules of feminism. And she was in. 726 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,960 She's collaborated with Prince on music. 727 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,600 Yeah. All right. 728 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,320 I was like, she's cool. Right. 729 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,840 She apparently complained about doing this movie because they 730 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,679 made her look too severe compared to Kim Cattrall, who 731 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,520 got the blowout. And she didn't like having this, 732 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,720 the slicked back hair. But she didn't know that 40 733 00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:05,600 years later there'd be two gays being like, yes, serve queen. 734 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,640 Well, this is back that, but, you know, Sue said this in the 735 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,120 last episode that I was listening to about you can't 736 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,520 have two blonde women in a film. And this is this is right. 737 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Yeah. Also, how what did you do to her 738 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,440 when she said that she couldn't tell the difference between Uma 739 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,800 Thurman and Michelle? Pfeiffer, I'm still thinking. 740 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,680 I was thinking. I was listening. 741 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,320 To up today thinking about. This. 742 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,800 I was listening to it, walking my dog, and I suddenly felt 743 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,520 really fucking angry. I was like, what is this person? 744 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,760 What is she doing on our podcast saying filth like that? 745 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,440 All of the good work we put in for the last year and that's the 746 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,560 shit she's peddling? Fuck you, Sue gives a fuck. 747 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,040 They are sorry, two strikingly beautiful blonde women, yes, who 748 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,720 are completely you like. Your friend has big old jiggly 749 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,360 tits. One is Poison Ivy and one is 750 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,400 cat. Yes, it's not difficult. 751 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,920 Oh God, thank you. OK, I'm really glad that we 752 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,720 managed to talk. Yeah, to talk about that. 753 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,760 I couldn't let her have it on. It no, just disgusting. 754 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,200 OK. Can you tell we're filling 755 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,160 people? Can you tell this is fluffing 756 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,960 this episode? OK so he gets dumped. 757 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,840 We love Roxy. Dumping someone by telling them 758 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,000 they need to get psychiatric help is camp. 759 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,320 We've all been. There. 760 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,640 Yeah, we've all been there. Then his motorcycle breaks down 761 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,080 in the rain. So Switcher and. 762 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,000 Switcher. He has another episode where 763 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,920 he's staring at her in the the window. 764 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,480 Oh my God, it's the mannequin that I made. 765 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,320 You did not make her. You put arms on something that 766 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,360 probably was sculpted in China. Yeah, and how many of there are 767 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,440 there around the? World anyway, she's there and he 768 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,800 says to her in the window that she's the first work that made 769 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,120 him feel like a true artist and. You know, sorry, I'll just keep 770 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,840 on thinking this from like, if this was a really fucked up, you 771 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,760 know, if it was like an A-24, he'd be like wanking at her in 772 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,400 the rain, wouldn't he? And then she'd probably, and 773 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,000 then she'd probably be going, yeah, that's it. 774 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,120 OK, anyway, sure. Sure. 775 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,680 Jen, you're an artist. The next morning, he is walking 776 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,160 past the store again, and he sees Claire Timken, Estelle 777 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,400 Getty, who's about to be killed by her own shop sign because 778 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040 she's the store owner. He saves her and it's. 779 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,240 Oh, my God. Hi, Jinx. 780 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,320 He's swinging around on that sign. 781 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,960 You can really see where they spent their budget. 782 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,200 It's such a great use of special effect. 783 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400 It's just. And all of the other things I 784 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,840 could do. And it's like, yeah. 785 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,840 That and the car chase, same scene. 786 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,000 And then and then she's and she's like, hey, let me hire you 787 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,240 and. He's swinging around on the 788 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:43,440 side. I mean, it's a broad style of 789 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,560 comedy that this movie is going for, Kind of slapsticky 790 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,200 screwball I hate. It Yeah, I hate it so much. 791 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,800 I hate it. It's such low hanging fruit, 792 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,240 really. And also, do you know what I 793 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:55,720 love? Well, maybe I don't. 794 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,200 I thought I love the style Gethi and like Golden Girls. 795 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,840 Yeah, she's terrible. Like she cannot act. 796 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,320 She's trying so hard not to slip into that Sicilian accent, isn't 797 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:05,600 she? And. 798 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,640 It's just like, no, you need to accept who you are. 799 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,480 Where does this fall in Like Golden When? 800 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,800 When is Golden girls? I think it's probably mid Golden 801 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,360 Girls. So I think she's, you know, 802 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,200 she's become a breakout star on that. 803 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,040 And then she's now be given some opportunities and it's like. 804 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,440 Picture it Philadelphia in 1987. Anyway, Claire is grateful to 805 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,520 him and gives him a job. We meet Mr. Richards, played by 806 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,000 James Spader. He is secretly paid by Illustra, 807 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,760 the rival department store. Now that's the department store 808 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,840 I want to. Go Oh my God, it. 809 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,000 Is amazing, yeah. I'm like, imagine shopping 810 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,240 there. Everything's neon blue. 811 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,960 Everywhere but pre COVID slash curtains so like really cool. 812 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,360 It was a futurism. There was a time when like those 813 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,760 kind of like tinsel curtains you couldn't get anywhere. 814 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,480 Like and in the 80s. Oh they pop with real neon. 815 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,040 It's so nice. I just want to be there 816 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600 watching. Yeah, And like, I'm just being 817 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,360 there for the whole day being like, oh, I went and like this 818 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,440 person a makeup counter. Yeah, just wandering around 819 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,400 meeting all of the different ladies at all the makeup 820 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,880 channels. Like an electric neon ion BA and 821 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,880 then. And I got to try on. 822 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,440 I wonder what the fragrance would be. 823 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,280 Like Jerry Hall or something. Yeah, for men. 824 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,320 So yeah, Richard is played by Lustra. 825 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,000 He's trying to sabotage prints and company so it can be bought. 826 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,800 We also meet suspicious and bigoted security guard Captain 827 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,480 Felix Maxwell. He's like, oh, so the Mary has a 828 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,120 new assistant. He doesn't like gay. 829 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:37,840 People. No. 830 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,960 Yeah, he does these days, though. 831 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,840 Terrible. And then we also meet flamboyant 832 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,840 window dresser Hollywood Montrose, played by Meshach 833 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000 Taylor. Right. 834 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,160 Right, how we Let's talk about Hollywood. 835 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000 Apparently this man was the only straight man to audition for 836 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,440 this role. This is a heterosexual man 837 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,920 playing this. Because my my boyfriend loves 838 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,720 Hollywood right? And and quotes Hollywood like 839 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,400 and I was telling him that we were doing this episode and then 840 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,320 I also told him in my research that he was straight and the way 841 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,240 he audibly gasped and nearly like fell over the sofa because 842 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,240 he always he always just believed it was like. 843 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,560 Yeah, a super. Capative portrayal like real. 844 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,520 It was his lived experience. Yeah, because also I think as 845 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,440 well you can kind of you're like, oh God, how fucking 846 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,000 fabulous. This like flamboyant black guy 847 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,680 who is just like, owning it. And you're like, yeah, fucking 848 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,800 how Even though it is like cliche trophy camp, you're like, 849 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,640 brilliant. Yeah, until you find out he's 850 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,560 straight. And it's like, oh God. 851 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,320 Because he kind of carries the movie. 852 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,920 Whatever, I'm going to snip so knowing he's straight out of my 853 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,480 brain. Because, yeah, otherwise you 854 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,240 can't enjoy it at all. Yeah, yeah. 855 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,360 And I'm just going to enjoy this queer representation. 856 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,000 Yeah, right. Because he is fabulous. 857 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,080 He's. Fabulous and the. 858 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,360 Movie loves him, yeah. The movie loves him. 859 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,560 The movie's on his side. He has real heart. 860 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,160 Yeah, the the he experiences bigotry and those bigots are 861 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,440 punished. The movie likes this game. 862 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,240 He's creative. He's worried about weight. 863 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:14,520 Yeah, I mean. He wears those sunglasses that 864 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,120 what's her face wears in overboard. 865 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,280 What's her face Goldie Hawn with? 866 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,200 The Goldie Hawn wears fucking hell. 867 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,440 Right. Sue gives a fuck. 868 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,880 Calm down. Goldie Hawn wears an overboard. 869 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,000 He drives a pink Cadillac with a bad girl on it. 870 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,200 Sorry, it's not goals, right? Rihanna vibes. 871 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,800 He. Yeah. 872 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,040 Incredible. Incredible. 873 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,560 Straight. Straight. 874 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,360 OK, so then Switcher is putting together a window display and 875 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,840 the mannequin he made. Oh, my God. 876 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,000 It comes to life. Can you believe it? 877 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,360 Can you believe it? It's Kim Cattrall. 878 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,120 It's Kim Cattrall, everyone. She says she's existed for 879 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,040 centuries as a muse, sometimes inhabiting the works of an 880 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,240 artist she admires and inspires. And that is that's all she says, 881 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,600 because she just goes, goes it's a long story and then proceeds 882 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,920 to not tell a long story at all. Just that's it. 883 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,400 Like. And I think this is where. 884 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,800 Yeah. So here's where we're supposed 885 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:13,360 to understand that, Jonathan. Putting arms on a prefab body is 886 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,600 the same as. Michelangelo. 887 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,400 Michelangelo. Leonardo da Vinci. 888 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,880 Who she outed? Yeah. 889 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,080 Was he? Was he out? 890 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,560 But also what doesn't make sense to me. 891 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,720 So OK, so she was the Mona Lisa because Leonardo painted it and 892 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,600 then she came to life as the Mona Lisa. 893 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:34,040 Does that mean she was David? And how does she fit into the 894 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,760 Michelangelo story? I don't know, Doesn't make sense 895 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,080 right? I think. 896 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,880 I think maybe she is lying. Doesn't exist. 897 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,760 And then also how? What is Christopher? 898 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,880 Christopher Clumps isn't an artist, he's a he's a slave 899 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,520 poacher. Like he never questioned it. 900 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,280 He never, he never wants to find out more about this. 901 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,400 It's also never explained anymore. 902 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520 You know, there's not like normally in these kind of films 903 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,160 it would be like, oh, you know, the ex-boyfriend from back in 904 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,200 Egyptian times has found the portal. 905 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,760 She went in and how dare she leave me. 906 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,960 So I'm going to go to the modern day to get her back. 907 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,760 There's normally that kind of storyline. 908 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,080 No, not on this. Wait, are you saying that this 909 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,560 movie about a mannequin that comes to life has a like a 910 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,800 poorly thinly written female lead without much back story? 911 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,760 I am implying that, yeah. Wow, bold. 912 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,520 OK, so. Yeah you're right though, she 913 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,880 doesn't have that much of a story, does she? 914 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,920 I'm just looking at one of my notes. 915 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,080 She has zero agency lol. Yeah, she's really she's just 916 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,840 there to help Jonathan live his dreams. 917 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,080 And wear nice clothes. Yeah, she also explains that the 918 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,200 gods allow her life when she and Jonathan are unobserved, so no 919 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,640 one else can see her. Whenever they see her, she goes 920 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,320 back to a mannequin. Again, so basically she's just 921 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,280 this pleasure object for him, solely for his gaze and no one 922 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,320 else's. Yeah, yeah, she's a sex doll. 923 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,840 And years of time travelling, that's what it brought her to. 924 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,640 Honestly, that's and she doesn't seem to want anything more than 925 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,120 that. It's like like she's been, she's 926 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,080 basically implied that she's been like around fuck boys 927 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,880 throughout time, like thousands of years of fuck boys and she's 928 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,680 still like, wow, this guy, this guy who can't even make a 929 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,920 fucking pizza, who murders children. 930 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,120 Oh, he's the one. Yeah, this is that. 931 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,480 So with Emmy's help, Switcher's window display is a massive 932 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,240 success. Oh. 933 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,960 Oh, to live in a time when some tennis rackets hanging from the 934 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160 ceiling could draw a crowd. Hey, have you seen the window 935 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,240 dressing at the store? Almost the road. 936 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,080 Imagine. My favorite bit is just watching 937 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,360 the extras act in this scene because they're all clearly 938 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,800 don't know what they're saying, but they're all like, go wow, 939 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,440 wow, you seen this, though? Hey, look at that over there. 940 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:58,880 Look. Wow. 941 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,800 Hey everybody, get over here. They all say nothing but all 942 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,040 going mad over the displays and clapping. 943 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,720 Everybody clapped. I. 944 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,680 Also love this as well because like, obviously this kooky 945 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,080 writer and director have come up with this crazy film concept and 946 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,640 clearly it's got greenlit, blah, blah, blah, to the point where 947 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,880 they've had to like get the art team on board. 948 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,080 Right, guys, there we go. You're going to make some like 949 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,160 crazily successful window dressing with mannequins and 950 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,360 this is going to be like the bit, OK, what are you doing? 951 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,640 And then it's like these people being like, I guess we'll put 952 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,600 them on a cycle like. What if yeah, mannequins were on 953 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,360 bikes? It's like, this is it? 954 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,560 That's like, whoa, whoa, yeah, yeah. 955 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,120 I just. I love how underwhelming. 956 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,960 Oh. God, it is grim. 957 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,720 Just hire someone with some talent to do this in the movie. 958 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,760 It's crazy. Anyway, now Switcher is in 959 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,680 charge of visual merchandising and so him and Emmy continue 960 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,920 working on displays and I think this is where we get the longest 961 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,800 montage that has ever existed in. 962 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,920 Cinema history normally love a montage. 963 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,560 Yeah. Oh, it's boring, isn't it? 964 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,480 It's just it's the entire song. The song is Do You Dream About 965 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,400 Me? And yeah, it's the entire song. 966 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,400 And it's just them just doing lots of fun little dress up 967 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,880 moments. They're like Gangster and just 968 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,600 like Yacht and oh, I like the look she's got where she's in 969 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,280 the kind of. Hunk. 970 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,400 Wiki Yeah, Tina Turner. I also watched this and I was 971 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,760 thinking, oh God, I feel sorry for people like Kim Cottrell 972 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,480 because, you know, we we do like mock Christina Aguilera, 973 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,120 etcetera for wearing wigs in movies to just have like mousy 974 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,480 flat ace 80s hair that you can kind of boof on a little bit. 975 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,000 You. I am missing a wig. 976 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,240 I want more wigs, more a mannequin. 977 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:49,840 Yeah, she should be bald. And then and let me tell you 978 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,240 that wig, when she is a mannequin, her wig on the 979 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:56,160 mannequin is way more impressive than Kim Cattralls hair. 980 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,400 So Kim Cattrall should be wearing that wig. 981 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,640 More wigs. More wigs, You're absolutely. 982 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,520 Right, because I came alive when I saw the punk wig. 983 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,200 The. Punk wig is so good. 984 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:07,640 The punk wig is so good. Also, Kim Cattrall is no 985 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,680 stranger to a wig. I watched this interview she 986 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,200 gave in the 90s where she's talking about this movie and 987 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,720 about I guess she was on Star Trek too and. 988 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:16,760 She's wearing like a little black. 989 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,400 Yeah, a little black like Cleopatra, Bob, but. 990 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,840 Surely that should be part of the fun of her film like this. 991 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,080 It's like loads of different wigs. 992 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,240 Oh, now I'm a blonde, now my redhead. 993 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,200 Give us the depth we need. Yeah, when will you wear wigs? 994 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,080 I also loved, I mean, I'm, you know, fur coat and just 995 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,960 knickers. Yeah, fabulous. 996 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,680 This at this point, I was, I wrote here. 997 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:40,400 Are they fucking? I think they're not fucking yet. 998 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,120 No. But it's kind of. 999 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,320 This is like the foreplay. This is such a horny movie that 1000 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,200 I think they don't actually fuck till later. 1001 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,280 This movie is very sex. It's got sex on the brain. 1002 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,480 Yeah, there's always, there's all these horny, like, extras 1003 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,520 and like there's like the the guy who works at Illustra who's 1004 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,640 trying to sleep with Roxy. He's like a fucking perv. 1005 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,280 Oh yeah. Because he's just like, touched 1006 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:01,960 me. Yeah. 1007 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,560 Yeah, I've. I've got something in your size, 1008 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,240 Roxy. Oh. 1009 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,480 Over several weeks, they create several popular displays, 1010 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,080 attracting new business while deepening their relationship. 1011 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,840 A Lester tries to poach Jonathan, but he doesn't want to 1012 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,960 work there. There's a weird fight scene with 1013 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,640 Switcher and the security guard. It's like what? 1014 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:26,880 Yeah, like. Why is the security guard trying 1015 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,200 to? He literally murdered the. 1016 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,400 Employee. He's probably closet and he 1017 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,840 probably wants a piece of his ass that makes sense and he's 1018 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,000 jealous of that man. Well, he does say how he wants 1019 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,680 to strips. He wants to give him a strip 1020 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,560 search. And also, Oh my God, it's and 1021 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,840 there's also a bit, oh God, I hate these strokes. 1022 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,640 You see him where he's in that department store and he sees a 1023 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,480 pair of women's knickers, but kind of goes to them and looks 1024 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,360 at them in a sort of cross dressing kind of way, not in a 1025 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,320 like. So there's like, oh God, that's 1026 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:02,640 boring, isn't it? Right Claire fires Felix and 1027 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:08,200 Richard's and makes Jonathan the store's youngest vice president 1028 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,520 because he has increased sales so much through his amazing 1029 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,200 window displays. We realize now, wow, this is 1030 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,400 like some high stakes storytelling. 1031 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,880 Yeah, Battle of the department stores. 1032 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,960 Illustrious Sales are down 86% in several days because of 1033 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,320 Amazing Windows. All of the things you could do 1034 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,400 with the fucking mannequin. And it's like, no, we're just 1035 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,080 staying in the department store. Well, you know what you can do 1036 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,040 with Mannequin? What's that? 1037 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,880 Fuck it. Oh God. 1038 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,280 Because everyone at the store now thinks that he's fucking a 1039 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,360 mannequin and they're fine with it. 1040 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,600 It's helping the sales in their store like. 1041 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,080 Whatever it takes to get Prince and company back on track. 1042 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,960 If he needs to have sex with that mannequin in a store room 1043 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,360 in front of all of us, that's fine. 1044 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,400 Get your fucking ass up and work because he's making sick window 1045 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,760 displays. They are. 1046 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,960 They are like, I'll tell you what. 1047 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,400 Pushing artistic bounds. High streets would not be dead 1048 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,680 if we had visual merchandisers like him. 1049 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,800 Like, I'm sorry, when I walk down Oxford Street I don't see 1050 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,080 anything like that. Yeah, it's a dearth of glamour. 1051 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,640 You know what? It's a famine of beauty. 1052 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,800 One night, Jonathan takes Emmy through the city on his 1053 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,360 motorcycle. Which is quite funny, yeah. 1054 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,320 He's just driving around with a mannequin on his back. 1055 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,360 There's a big chase scene, which feels incredibly unnecessary. 1056 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,880 Again, Felix. The is just really trying to 1057 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,680 kill him. Yeah, just murder him. 1058 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,320 He's smashing into cars. They get stuck in an alley, then 1059 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,400 they go back to the store and this is where they fuck. 1060 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,440 I think for the first time. Yeah, OK. 1061 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,680 And they, yeah, they properly go. 1062 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,040 For it. And like a hammock. 1063 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,760 Yeah, in a tent under some fur coats. 1064 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,280 Also like these are some kinky bastards, why are they not just 1065 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,720 going to the bedroom department? You're right. 1066 00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:53,240 I'm sorry. I know I'm very vanilla. 1067 00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:56,960 By saying that it's just alright going to bed and fuck. 1068 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,560 And then it wake, they wake up and it's like a live art 1069 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,560 installation. And again, the extras are loving 1070 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:02,760 it, aren't they? They're clapping. 1071 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,120 Yeah, the extras love it. They're like, whoa, yeah. 1072 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,240 Well, I think, I think these people work. 1073 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,160 So they all work at the department store. 1074 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,680 And I think they've just been told to validate anything this 1075 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,560 man does. And they're like, well, we've 1076 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,680 come into work and this man's naked under a bunch of fur 1077 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,160 coats. You're a genius, Sir. 1078 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,960 You're a genius. But yeah, he finds out that 1079 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,280 overnight, after they've had sex, Illustra has come in and 1080 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,280 stolen all the female mannequins. 1081 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,520 He again, it's like, wow, the only way that we can combat 1082 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,720 these is they're incredible mannequins. 1083 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,840 It's like. Everyone making this movie was 1084 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,160 on drugs. Yes, yes. 1085 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,480 That everyone was just on coke and didn't give a shit. 1086 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,680 But anyway, Jonathan goes to Illustra and this is where we 1087 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,360 have our final showdown slash chase scene. 1088 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,160 Oh, and this is where we see Hollywood's pink convertible. 1089 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,320 Roxy loads all of the stolen mannequins into the stores. 1090 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,920 Large trash chipper thing. Yeah, she's gets knocked out by 1091 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,800 a bunch of garbage somehow. Yeah. 1092 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,280 And I, I really appreciate this because there's like maybe four 1093 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,720 or five mannequins that are on the conveyor belt and you see 1094 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:14,960 pretty instantly like 2 get like really. 1095 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,720 Chipped. But then you go back and it's 1096 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,920 like there's still like four or five on there and it's going up 1097 00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:24,400 and it's like, and then the Kim Cattrall 1 is sort of so close 1098 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,160 to the edge until it cuts back in the other, oh, we're at the 1099 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,640 bottom again now. It's like the slowest descent. 1100 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,560 We're really building the stakes here. 1101 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,520 Yeah, Roxy gets covered in garbage and is like knocked out, 1102 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,480 Yeah. Bless her. 1103 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,400 What single cardboard box takes her out? 1104 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,920 But yeah, Hollywood holds everyone at Bay with a fire 1105 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,400 hose. Let me show you what a real man 1106 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,040 looks like. Sure, Yeah. 1107 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,800 And then Jonathan jumps onto the compactor conveyor belt and he 1108 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,160 manages to. Really calm and really can't 1109 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,400 lift her up. No, she's. 1110 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,840 A fucking mannequin. Yeah, and of all the films, you 1111 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,000 just think that would be the given, but it's actually the the 1112 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,720 store worker. Oh, yeah, He watches us for 1113 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,520 ages. He watches Jonathan about to get 1114 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,880 crushed to death for ages. And then eventually he's like, 1115 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,680 oh, let me turn off the power, actually. 1116 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,600 And then she's brought out. Yeah, and because he saves her 1117 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,960 and has proven his true love, she comes to life permanently. 1118 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,360 And then our actual hero with the piece, the guy who's 1119 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,400 cleaning, he's actually a sex pest, isn't he? 1120 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,000 Because then he's like, oh, I want a mannequin that will come 1121 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,840 to life as well. I want a hot woman fuck doll 1122 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,000 that comes to life. I'm going to look for one. 1123 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,600 And then finds the unconscious body of our dear friend Roxy and 1124 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,480 then starts kissing her. She wakes up and is like, 1125 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,000 obviously, obviously, get the fuck off of me. 1126 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,360 Like who cares if she's like the baddie of the show, get the fuck 1127 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,480 off of me. No, he carries on and she's like 1128 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,960 get off of me, get off of me. Meanwhile, Kim Cattrall and 1129 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,560 another boy are like, laughing and walking past the being like, 1130 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:59,080 Oh well, she's actually raped. Justice for Roxy. 1131 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,520 Yeah, she was also just trying to like save her ex boyfriends 1132 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,880 mental health by because he's clearly having a mental health 1133 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,360 crisis. He's in love with a doll, and he 1134 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,040 was. She was just trying to help by 1135 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,440 getting rid of the object of his like obsession. 1136 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,800 Yeah. And then also she's just doing 1137 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,440 what anybody in a competitive, in a competitive business 1138 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,960 environment would do, and that's get rid of the competition. 1139 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,760 Yeah, yeah, you're right. She's just holding on to her 1140 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,320 work, you know, and. I mean, that's. 1141 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,800 Just like the rules of feminism. Anyway, everyone's there. 1142 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,440 Claire arrives Aristo Getty and she says that she's got security 1143 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,400 footage of Illustrious stealing the mannequins and so she get 1144 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,800 tries to get everyone arrested. Police arrest these men and 1145 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,280 then. Hey, Claire, on those security 1146 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,000 cameras, did you see anything else? 1147 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,920 I only saw what I needed to see. Which was you raw fucking a 1148 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,280 mannequin all over my store? Yeah, and I was licking myself 1149 00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:02,960 off to it. She loved watching him fuck that 1150 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,400 hard plastic. Oh my God. 1151 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,120 Anyway, then Jonathan and Emmy get married. 1152 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,560 In a window display. In a window display. 1153 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,000 With the extras all around again. 1154 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,160 And everybody clapped. Nothing's going to stop us now. 1155 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,080 Plays the end. Perfect movie. 1156 00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:33,280 Wow. And that's Mannequin. 1157 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,600 So it's a pile of shit. It's a pile of shit. 1158 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,040 I did not like watching this movie, but I what I will say is 1159 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:41,240 I liked thinking about it. OK, no. 1160 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,160 Because you sent me a message going like something like, wow, 1161 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,840 that was a pile of shit or something. 1162 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,040 And then I, I instantly was like, oh, here we are. 1163 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,520 Crystal getting on her high horse being all like, I'm better 1164 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,120 than this. And I'm like, I bet I'm going to 1165 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,720 watch this. I'm going to find some real 1166 00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:58,600 queer joy in it. And I was like, actually, no, 1167 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:02,600 no, no, you're right, bollock. I yeah, it's. 1168 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,680 It's rubbish. No, you know what this movie is? 1169 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,480 It's clock wipe fashion montage, clock wipe, car chase, clock 1170 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,640 wipe. Fuck a mannequin. 1171 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,080 Clock wipe, 80 cent clock wipe, montage. 1172 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,760 Clock wipe, chase. Clock wipe. 1173 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,400 Merry mannequin. The end. 1174 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,400 That makes it sound really good, though, Does it? 1175 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,200 Yeah, I would watch that, yeah. They love a wipe. 1176 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,280 Oh they do. And a quirky comedy cartoon 1177 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,640 sound effects. Chuck that bomb. 1178 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,080 Bomb, bomb, bomb. Yeah, it is just a loosely 1179 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:35,040 assembled bunch of montages around the cockiest plot you've 1180 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,360 ever heard. Yeah, I was going to ask you 1181 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,080 about that. What do you think the metaphor 1182 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,720 is for the mannequins? Look at how you're holding. 1183 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,560 You think they're? Yeah. 1184 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,800 I just wondered if there's maybe like a deeper meaning? 1185 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,720 Deeper meaning. Like, do you know, do you think 1186 00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:53,440 there's like, you know, an unlocked woman in every 1187 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,000 mannequin that is just there? I need to be fucked. 1188 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,680 I. Think actually what the meaning 1189 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:04,400 of this movie is is like it's kink positive and I I'm gonna go 1190 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,040 out and say like I appreciate that about this movie. 1191 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,720 It this movie is a non judgmental kink positive movie. 1192 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,880 Not only does it celebrate the queer character in this movie, 1193 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,720 it also celebrates someone with. Alamatapio. 1194 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:26,960 Agamata Agamata. And it's, it's totally non 1195 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,520 judgmental and it's just basically like, you know what, 1196 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,520 we love alternative lifestyles. Fly that freak fly. 1197 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,320 Exactly. And you know what? 1198 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,440 Because I read, I read in The Guardian a few years ago, 1199 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,680 someone did a piece where they were rewriting like how this 1200 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,360 film could be like through a different lens. 1201 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,320 And I really love it. And they they kind of made it 1202 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,320 into this dark film. So at the ending where he saves 1203 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,960 her, they were like, actually what really happens is he gets 1204 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,920 sucked into the machine and gets killed. 1205 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,280 And then what we see with her, him walking in the distance with 1206 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,040 her and getting married is just like, that's what was in his 1207 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,240 head the whole time. And it's all this just like 1208 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,280 dark. She's never been alive. 1209 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,840 And that's why you. Yeah. 1210 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,800 So I guess it's one or two, isn't it? 1211 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,880 It's either let's be tolerant of alternative lifestyles or 1212 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,840 potentially the dark version is you shouldn't actually encourage 1213 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,000 people's mental delusions because they will end up in a 1214 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,120 wood chipper and it doesn't matter how good their window 1215 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,400 displays are. Get that man some help. 1216 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,400 Also as well, something I just want to really pick up is I am 1217 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,680 worried about this, this couple and their futures together. 1218 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,880 Because they've got nothing. Yeah. 1219 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,520 I just feel like we don't think about the aftercare of these 1220 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:42,760 these kind of relationships, I mean. 1221 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,960 She's thousands of years old. She's literally done everything. 1222 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,040 Yeah, and also she know she's, you know, in her most recent 1223 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,800 life has just been held captive in a department store at night 1224 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,000 time, being part of window displays. 1225 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,720 I worry like, you know, she's probably going to leave him, I 1226 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,920 don't think. She's going to stay with it. 1227 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,840 Drip. Yeah, as soon as she, like, 1228 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,040 actually gets, you know what, an agency and freedom, she's going 1229 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,800 to realize that he's a loser one. 1230 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,360 Of my favorite quotes in the film, though, was when they were 1231 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,840 talking about the windows and she goes, she was like the 1232 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,080 windows. Oh, they were breathtaking. 1233 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,520 And it's the cycling one. Like she's got this. 1234 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,680 The mannequin version came from Charles, a bit grey as well. 1235 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,960 For some reason they haven't like been able to a colour match 1236 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,040 her skin. But it's just this like grey 1237 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,440 corpse again. It could be a corpse. 1238 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,120 Oh. We've been remodeling. 1239 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,800 Right. The 80s loved a weird concept 1240 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,280 like this, right? Like, think Weekend at Bernie's. 1241 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,240 Yeah. Or splash again. 1242 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,200 It's like how much cocaine was there available in the 80s that 1243 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,160 people were like, Yep, make it. Yeah, do it now. 1244 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,880 Yeah, Oh, you've got a, you've got a zany idea for a a man 1245 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,320 fucking a mannequin. Print it, send it to every 1246 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,160 cinema. Yeah, and every single. 1247 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,080 Sequel Order it. Yeah, I don't know. 1248 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:08,640 It's it is a bad, bad, bad movie that I think when you take as 1249 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,000 soon as you turn it off and take a step back, you're like, well, 1250 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,120 it's fun to think about a bit because. 1251 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,920 But it's it's one of those movies like you should not watch 1252 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,520 this movie, but I'm glad it exists. 1253 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,680 Yeah. Do you know what I mean? 1254 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,640 Yeah, I kind of get that. It's heart is in the right 1255 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,200 place. It's it's it's well-intentioned. 1256 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,120 I think. And because that's one of the 1257 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,440 biggest criticism from the critics, isn't it? 1258 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,640 This is such an earnest script. Yeah, and it is. 1259 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,920 And I guess that's like the younger version of me, the 1260 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,480 really young person that would watch this. 1261 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,720 I guess that's why I liked it, because it's so fucking simple 1262 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,800 to follow. Totally. 1263 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,960 But it is weird to basically make like a kids movie that is 1264 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,800 so much about fucking Yeah, because it is. 1265 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,920 It's basically like the plot is a cartoon. 1266 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,600 It's a cartoon or children for like 8 year olds. 1267 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,040 That is the level of the plot of this movie, but also with loads 1268 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,880 of sex. Yeah, it's just like, And then 1269 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,000 they start fucking. Yeah. 1270 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,120 The more they fuck, the more magic that happens in the 1271 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,800 windows. The more art they create. 1272 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:15,240 I remember reading despite its success in the box office, it 1273 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,160 didn't. Kim Cattrall complained that it 1274 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,920 didn't really help, you know, with her career as an actor. 1275 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,360 And it's like, no shit. Yeah, yeah. 1276 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,160 What do we think of her in this role? 1277 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,240 She's vanilla, she's one day, she's boring. 1278 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,240 She. Doesn't have enough to do, does 1279 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,800 she? I think she's a really great 1280 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,920 actor and I think she is sensationalist Samantha. 1281 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,840 I think Kim Cattrall outside of that persona though, is quite a 1282 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,680 boring person. I know we're watching this 1283 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,320 interview. She's so earnest. 1284 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,800 Yeah, she's just. And you know she's. 1285 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,800 A serious She takes it all very seriously and, you know, fair 1286 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,400 play. And it's like the jazz scatting, 1287 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,400 isn't it? There's. 1288 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,680 She is the jazz scatting clip. Yamaki Pierbo set a right for 1289 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:58,680 cable window Latin equal which is also amazing. 1290 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,520 But there's no like like with that. 1291 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,600 No, which is so weird that she ended up as like the most campy 1292 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,440 character of all time. Yeah, no, I think I for me she 1293 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,880 doesn't, although she looks great. 1294 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,640 She's obviously like incredibly beautiful and like, there's a 1295 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,000 reason why she's a mannequin. Yeah, You know, the way her body 1296 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,920 is is sensational, but I I don't know. 1297 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,160 There's like nothing there. There's no like wit. 1298 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,640 There's no like spark. You know, even Julia Roberts is 1299 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,400 someone who I think is a great actress, but I'm not like. 1300 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,360 Yeah, but she's also very, like, vanilla, right? 1301 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,280 Yeah, but when you see her in comedy roles, she's got that 1302 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,080 smile. There's something about a Julia 1303 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,840 Roberts moment that you're like, there's a star appeal there that 1304 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,880 you just don't have. It's missing a bit, isn't it? 1305 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,120 She does get some fun looks though. 1306 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:46,760 Yeah, but they're not even that great. 1307 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,800 Are. They they're not that great. 1308 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,000 I'm I'm scraping the. Barrel I I enjoy her being like 1309 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,640 gliding and like Oh my God, she tried to kill the dog and the 1310 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,880 guy. The dog dies though, doesn't it? 1311 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,120 No, I think it just runs away. Oh, OK. 1312 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,720 But yeah, watching an actual mannequin fly around on that 1313 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,200 glider, like. In aphasia. 1314 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,040 Yeah, worth making a movie just for me to see that. 1315 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,440 What are we filming today? What's on the sheet today? 1316 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,520 Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's the mannequin going around on that 1317 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,040 glider inside the department store. 1318 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,960 Great, great. Yeah, Let me see a couple more 1319 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,000 lines and then let's go for it. Come. 1320 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,520 On You're a genius. God. 1321 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,440 Apparently GW Bailey, who played the mall cop, he said. 1322 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:29,920 We didn't think it would ever be released. 1323 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,600 I couldn't believe we were filming this. 1324 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,480 So at least they knew. I mean, that's the other thing. 1325 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,600 Watching this, I'm like, do you think when you make a movie like 1326 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,720 this, do you think, oh, this is going to be good? 1327 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,720 Do you know what I mean? Like do you think you? 1328 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,880 Just there for the paycheck. You there for the paycheck? 1329 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,360 Or do you think like, Oh yeah, this could edit out, edit up. 1330 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,920 OK, it's hard. It must be hard to tell when 1331 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,120 you're like filming slapsticky fight stuff. 1332 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,760 You're like, OK, maybe this will maybe this will work, maybe. 1333 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,560 But oh God, it is fucking corny. Like so much of the jokes are 1334 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,040 just so cringe. This. 1335 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,360 I just feel bad watching it. Yeah, there's like, there's not 1336 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,040 this like, nostalgic campness I get from it. 1337 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,720 It's just like you said, corny. Yeah, it's missing a lot of the 1338 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,040 queer joy. Doesn't make me want to fucking 1339 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,560 mannequin. And if I'm watching a film about 1340 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,000 mannequin fucking, I want to fucking mannequin. 1341 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,240 Well, I should want to fucking mannequin after it, you know 1342 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,440 what I mean? Yeah, I'm just comparing it now 1343 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:28,200 to like your subservience, which to be fair, did make me want to 1344 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,240 fuck. Yes, now that is a sex doll that 1345 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,440 knows. And listen, that's not just some 1346 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,600 fucking a wet thing like Kim Cattrall is. 1347 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,880 She is out to get Megan Fox is out to get everyone killed the 1348 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,160 child all in the name of lust. She's a killer. 1349 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,040 She's Terminator. It's the reason why it's a camp 1350 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,240 classic. Although according to you and 1351 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,680 Peaches Christ it isn't a camp classic, but it remains A 1352 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,000 campsite to me. I don't really have anything 1353 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,160 else to say about this movie. No, it's. 1354 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,160 It's amazing that the movie manages to be an hour and a half 1355 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,680 long, because it is. It's a 30 minute child's 1356 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,160 cartoon. Yeah, totally. 1357 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,600 Stretched into an hour and a half. 1358 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:08,840 That's the fucking, isn't it? Yeah. 1359 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,680 And the montages. Yeah, it's like, like, right. 1360 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,760 We're just going to have to go the whole song for this montage. 1361 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,320 Yeah, we need the running time. And normally when you watch 1362 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,960 those montages, especially if it's a makeover, I don't know 1363 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,880 about you, but I'm always like, I could do with some more. 1364 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,440 I'm always like, that's so enjoyable. 1365 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,240 This one was like wow. We're still here doing the whole 1366 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,400 track. I think if you are listening to 1367 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,720 this episode and you also have fond memories of Mannequin. 1368 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,400 Fucking a mannequin. Of the movie Mannequin. 1369 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,920 Do not go watch it. Yes, keep your memories intact 1370 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,760 of this movie. Let it live as this fun, joyous 1371 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,320 thing in your brain. Which is why we shouldn't go to 1372 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,360 therapy, I think, because it's a similar thing, isn't it? 1373 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,920 It's just like, you know, that's not analyzed too much. 1374 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,680 Like, past behaviors, relationships. 1375 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,880 Look back because we will unlock some horrible truths. 1376 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,320 Like, yeah, I think this is the first film that we've watched 1377 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,720 that I'm like, yeah, don't watch it again. 1378 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,720 Like love it. Hollywood's queer. 1379 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,120 Yeah, Hollywood's queer. This movie is great. 1380 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,560 It's features songs you love. It's Kim. 1381 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,160 It's Mannequin. He's a fabulous black gay guy. 1382 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,800 Oh my God. Mannequin is a camp classic 1383 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,400 until you watch it. That's just exactly what I mean. 1384 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,360 And that's what I will say, if you are making an entrance, if 1385 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,720 you are making a suggestion for the suggestion sack, don't just 1386 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,080 go based off of some childhood memory. 1387 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,560 No, do you know what? No, I know what's happened. 1388 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,520 Someone has watched Mannequin recently and they've got really 1389 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,800 upset because it's destroyed all of their memories. 1390 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,160 And they were hoping we could say that and. 1391 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,800 No, and they've gone. I feel shit. 1392 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,680 Now let's spread my shit. It's an origin story. 1393 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,800 I'm going to put it in the suggestion sack and I'm going to 1394 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,840 destroy everyone else's memory. They were hoping that we could 1395 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,240 help them save it, and sadly we're not. 1396 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,680 No gay enough for that. But this is what I like like 1397 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,080 about this podcast because on paper this should be a camp 1398 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,840 classic, but I don't think it is. 1399 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,840 It's too heterosexual. Yeah, it's a slog to watch. 1400 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,480 Bring in more mannequins, Have everyone fucking. 1401 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,240 Oh, imagine they all came to life. 1402 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,480 Yeah, at night time they had a big party. 1403 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,240 A big. Orgy. 1404 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:21,920 Imagine Roxy got really dicked down by like a hunky underwear 1405 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,800 mannequin. Now we're talking. 1406 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:26,400 OK. Should we rate it? 1407 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:31,320 Let's rate it, yeah. OK, so Liza's and Merrill's, how 1408 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,120 many Merrill's are we giving this movie for? 1409 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,120 The quality? This movie reminds me of Vamp. 1410 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,680 Yes. And it reminds me of Buffy the 1411 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,640 movie, and I didn't like either of those movies. 1412 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,240 No, but I feel like Vamp had some really cool art direction 1413 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,360 exactly whereas this one. Doesn't I'm giving this movie 1 1414 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,800 Merrill? Yeah, I'm, I'm trying to think 1415 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,880 what the 1 Merrill's. I don't know it exists and and I 1416 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,240 think Kim Cattrall is fine. She doesn't deserve nothing. 1417 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,920 Yeah. They've got some chemistry. 1418 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:07,760 Yeah, 1 then. Groundbreaking 1 Merrill to 1419 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,080 Mannequin and Liza's How camp is this movie? 1420 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:15,120 It's not not got some camp. No, because it's like when she 1421 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,960 freezes and becomes the mannequin and like like that 1422 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,880 first time she poses into that weird position, I did laugh. 1423 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,840 Some of it's like true. Some of it's queer joy camp. 1424 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,840 Some of it's like, wow, I'm watching the worst movie that's 1425 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,800 ever been made, and that's also kind of camp. 1426 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,479 I did the extras excitedly, watching the window display 1427 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,040 Exactly, yeah. Exactly. 1428 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,479 Roxy's kind of camp, some of the fashions, kind of camp. 1429 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,279 Hollywood's kind of camp. Take car I guess. 1430 01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:45,920 If you were like, and it's a Sunday and you've had like a 1431 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,200 huge weekend and you just want to like veg out with something a 1432 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,439 bit in the background and you're looking on your phone, then I 1433 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:52,479 think you could probably enjoy this. 1434 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,359 Yeah, you. Have as few brain cells as 1435 01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:55,600 possible when you watch this movie. 1436 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,800 Yeah, and you'd be fine with it. OK, So for that it's 5. 1437 01:08:58,880 --> 01:08:59,680 Sure. Yeah, yeah. 1438 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,359 I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's right. 1439 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,000 Some people are still going to think this is a camp movie. 1440 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,080 They're wrong. Well. 1441 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,640 It's a 5. It's not where you should go 1442 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,120 when you need a real fisting of camp. 1443 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,120 But if you just want a little a little dollop in your tea, I. 1444 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,640 Guess it's like fucking a mannequin. 1445 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,520 It's like, it's never going to be like fucking human, but it 1446 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,960 it. Might leave you a bit chafed and 1447 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,920 dry. Do you think is? 1448 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,520 He just like rubbing. Yeah, this is it. 1449 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,240 Also if if when she's alive and then someone catches them having 1450 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,479 sex and so she turns back to a mannequin. 1451 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,080 Is he? What happened? 1452 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,680 Is his Dick enclosed in her mannequin form? 1453 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,880 Or does it get like ejected? No. 1454 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,920 You see that big questions, big questions, but maybe he was not. 1455 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,000 Brave enough to answer. That and I don't know if we'll 1456 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,560 ever get the answers to those questions. 1457 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,040 Maybe in Mannequin too. Maybe that's what on the move 1458 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,760 means. It's about being ejected 1459 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:57,400 forcibly from a mannequin which has gone from living to statue. 1460 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:58,640 OK, great. Yeah. 1461 01:09:59,080 --> 01:09:59,960 Fabulous. Probably. 1462 01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:01,560 Yeah, I assume. There you go. 1463 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,920 That was Mannequin. That was Mannequin, and we'll be 1464 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,920 back in two more weeks. Oh wait, should we? 1465 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,000 Quickly. Do you dare? 1466 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,480 Yeah, go on. Quickly from the suggestion, 1467 01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:15,880 sack the next movie we are covering. 1468 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,920 Get your fist right in there like you're trying to get it to 1469 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,480 come to life. An upcoming movie we are 1470 01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:23,920 covering is. OK. 1471 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,320 Direct from the sack. Oh, here it is, right. 1472 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,840 We are doing Troop Beverly Hills and that is by Niall. 1473 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,600 Sent that one in Oh. Thank you, Niall. 1474 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,160 Hi, Niall. That's fun. 1475 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:37,920 Yeah, I think Troop Beverly Hills. 1476 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,120 Yeah, I think Troop Beverly Hills also has a cartoon intro. 1477 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,840 Oh, there you go. It's going to be like this. 1478 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,280 Movie. I'm presuming because it's about 1479 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,920 Girl Scouts. There isn't going to be as much 1480 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,440 fucking as Mannequin. Just presuming. 1481 01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:53,080 You never know though, it was the 80s. 1482 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,760 Yeah, the 80s. There was a lot of cocaine. 1483 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,520 OK, we'll tune in for that episode. 1484 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,560 I can't wait to explore that one. 1485 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,200 And you know what? Mannequin did try, but it 1486 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,640 couldn't. Nothing is going to stop us. 1487 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,720 That was such a forced closer. Wow. 1488 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,760 Get away from her you bitch. Classic. 1489 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,000 He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders 1490 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,200 right before she died. No. 1491 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,880 Hannah, you thought you become a prostitute or a dog. 1492 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,360 At it I used to love. Doggy chow. 1493 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,360 I used to love doggy chest too.