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Welcome to Beyond Sunday, a 
podcast that's based on the OR 

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it comes from actually the 
preaching ministry of Leamington

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Emci am Pastor Jonah Chitty, 
joined as always by Pastor Joe 

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Pinner. 
Hello. 

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And today we have a special 
guest, the one the only Mr. Carl

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Barge. 
Hi. 

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We thought we'd start with a new
segment that we're calling Dad 

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jokes Jox. 
I don't know if that's going to 

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stick or not. 
That was Kyle's idea. 

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And so Joe, this is, you know, 
invite your kids in. 

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This is a dad joke. 
So, Joe, you got one for us. 

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Yeah, why? 
Why? 

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Why was Nehemiah such a great 
leader? 

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Why? 
He always knew how to build up 

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his team. 
What's frustrating is how much 

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joy you have. 
Knock, knock. 

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Who's there? 
Nehemiah. 

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Nehemiah who? 
Nehemiah Business. 

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I'm just here to fix the walls. 
OK, it's. 

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Not even clever. 
It's not even clever. 

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It's not. 
Even that good. 

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They're awful. 
And I love it because Kyle was 

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laughing so, so well. 
Well, this started this started 

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one that with a joke that you 
brought up, Kyle. 

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Yeah, which this one also was a 
stretch. 

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It was like, how tall was 
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He's about NIA. 
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Some jokes. 
Sometimes jokes are so bad 

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they're good. 
Yeah. 

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You know, I, Joe was just 
talking about your podcast. 

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You have a podcast I do and it's
called Cat. 

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GPT. 
Yep, it's called Chat KJP. 

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Yeah, you got it. 
Nailed it. 

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Send us coffee. 
Yeah, first. 

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And you guys are talking about 
all sorts of crazy things on 

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your podcast. 
Oh yeah, yeah, it's never a dull

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moment. 
But I really wanted to like what

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I enjoy about your podcast is 
when you get really like tickled

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and you start to laugh, really 
like high pitched. 

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And I wanted that on our 
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And so that was the whole point 
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Well, with these jokes, it's not
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To happen it did though. 
That was the thing. 

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Very good. 
You don't even know when you 

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laugh that. 
Way I don't even realize I just 

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lose it. 
I'm just, I'm just a joyful 

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person. 
So we brought Kyle on the 

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podcast for a specific reason, 
not just for dad jokes with an 

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X. 
We brought him on to talk about 

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your sermon. 
You preached the sermon last 

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night. 
And we're not going to call it a

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sermon or a devotion because you
went 27 minutes, bro. 

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It's on the, it's on the in the 
stream right now. 

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So if you want to go back and 
listen to it, feel free. 

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It's on 1st John chapter 1. 
But before we get to yours, 

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we're going to talk about 
Nehemiah chapter 2. 

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Yeah, for sure. 
Pastor Jake preached the sermon 

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on Nehemiah chapter 2. 
He went from verse 1 to 11. 

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Yep. 
Is that right? 

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Verse through verse 10. 
Oh, through verse 10, Yeah, 

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Yeah. 
So I didn't grab the title. 

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Oh, Nehemiah, a servant of God, 
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A faithful servant. 
A faithful. 

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Servant of God, So So yeah, Joe,
you want to give us a recap? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So Jake had four points in his 

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sermon. 
He started off with Isaiah 40 

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verse 31 that talks about those 
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renew their strengths and and 
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And sort of introduced the, the 
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Nehemiah's patience and waiting 
for the right time, waiting to 

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approach the king and, and it, 
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and pray and wait for the Lord's
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And then his first point was 
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courage, that in his courage to 
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showed his faith and trust in 
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His second point was that 
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trust and that his trust was 
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his prayer. 
He was a faithful man of prayer.

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And the Third Point that 
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confidence, again, trusting, 
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And then how the Lord worked it 
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and in even more than he was 
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And the point #4 Nehemiah showed
faith through resolve that even 

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when opposition began to to be 
stirred up, he still persisted 

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and, and still continued 
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And so I think he's sort of some
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drawing on like those sorts of 
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God who really trust him, you 
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evident in our prayer life, 
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pretty convicting. 
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And sort of again, just like, do
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you know, do we surrender just a
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Like Nehemiah was willing to 
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his position up to go and do 
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calling him to do, something 
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Right? 
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And when we surrender to God, do
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whatever you want from this 
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made for you. 
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And I thought that was, you 
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through it because it is the way
we think, right? 

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You know what? 
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But maybe not a whole lot 
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comfortable with. 
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is asking us to do things that 
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comfortable with. 
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in the sermon when he talked 
about the the fact that Nehemiah

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didn't have to go like he he had
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He had. 
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He'd really just didn't have to 
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I think that's what you're 
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It's just like he it was, I'm 
Jake just really stretched that 

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out in the sermon. 
He like really like like told us

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what position he had and like 
what that meant and like how 

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good Nehemiah actually had it as
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somewhat servant could have. 
He he was as high as he could 

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possibly go, right come bear to 
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He close proximity, probably 
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Didn't have to. 
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to do manual labor. 
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That's what we assume or serve 
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But like but Nehemiah did and I 
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to, but he was deeply grieved 
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So like his, he, he saw what was
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So I just thought that was just 
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Yeah. 
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And kind of going along with 
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touched on it too, Joe, where 
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God very much, right? 
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Nehemiah's example and seeing 
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his trust of God, like you said,
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could have had originally, 
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Like I think that we have a hard
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to just give us the bare 
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And I feel like that that's, I 
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that like I get really anxious. 
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God answered my prayer last 
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going to happen, right? 
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a good point to look to. 
I get it for other people that 

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just kind of struggle with that 
idea that sometimes, like when 

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we pray and when we trust in the
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not going to just like 
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OK, well, here's your basic 
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So in some cases, he will exceed
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a good God who loves us. 
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Yeah, but. 
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do we have the faith to to go 
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Like even to trust that God is 
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for us, right. 
Like we think of, you know, 

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Sermon on the Mount where he 
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to you seek and you'll find 
knock and it will be open to you

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for to the one who asks receives
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to the one who knocks, it will 
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And then he sort of like brings 
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He's like, which one of you? 
If his son comes to him and asks

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for bread, we'll give him a 
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Or if he asks for fish, we'll 
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If you then who are evil know 
how to give good gifts to your 

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children, how much more will 
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things to those who ask him? 
It's like, you guys know how to 

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do this with your kids. 
How much more do I know how to 

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give good things if you ask? 
But a lot of times we just don't

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have the faith to ask at all, 
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Like you said, do I really trust
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And often times it's like the 
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oh, I have to do now, I have to 
work harder. 

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I have to sort of do something 
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Shows that I'm really trusting 
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in God. 
That's a good point. 

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I don't think that Nehemiah's 
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like him, like it's just random 
asking God for big things, 

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right? 
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That's like when you were 
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sharing that, Joe. 
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OK. 
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the small stuff. 
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providing for my family and, and
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a roof over my head and doing 
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I feel like I can do that. 
Like, I don't know about you 

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guys, but honestly, I feel like 
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Like if I'm being honest, right,
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Oh, this is I'm doing this in my
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But, but I don't, I don't think 
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We the only thing all we have is
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gracious to us and faithful to 
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We can think that we've done 
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with it, but we're wrong. 
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would be wrong. 
It's just God's goodness and his

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grace in our lives. 
I mean, like tomorrow you can 

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wake up and not have anything. 
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Nehemiah didn't get to this, 
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where he's like asking this big 
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for big things. 
Like he, he knows God's faithful

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because he's been faithful for 
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And so, yeah, I think that's 
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like his he, he believes God is 
really, really big in, in other 

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words, you know what I mean? 
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big. 
And we're going to find out 

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more. 
And like as we, as we progress 

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through the chapter, he's always
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God's strength. 
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Well, yeah, it's good. 
Well, that reminds me of EM 

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Bounce has a book on prayer. 
And in the very beginning of 

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that book, he shares like an 
illustration from, you know, a 

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very well known guy. 
I don't know who it was, it was 

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like back in the day, but he 
shares the story of these two 

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guys are having a conversation. 
And the one guy says to the 

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other guy, you don't mean to 
tell me that if you lost your 

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pencil you would pray. 
And the other guy says, of 

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course I would. 
And I'm just like, I've, I've, 

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I've never forgotten that 
illustration because I just 

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thought to myself, I'm like, I 
would never, I would never pray.

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But like you said, like there's 
things that I think like I can 

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just do myself or maybe that I 
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And I don't, I don't want to 
give myself any credit in the 

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sense of like, maybe I just 
think it's beneath God. 

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I think it's pride in my own 
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But you're right. 
It's like, I think that I got 

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that and I can do it myself. 
But you're so right that it has 

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to become like our prayer has to
become the first thing that we 

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do, the first thing that we go 
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And it can't just be when big 
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someone in his church who would.
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specific prayers recently. 
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about that and he would write 
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that up with like in a couple 
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asked me to pray for this, how's
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And he said he would go to this 
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books on the shelf of prayer, 
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And he just said about that man,
he's like, do you think that man

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ever doubts the faithfulness of 
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things and that's why you have 
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situations, right? 
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convicting for me. 
I for real. 

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something to say too about like,
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courage, he mentions a quote 
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where he says that like, you 
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how do you conquer people? 
I don't know what the quote is. 

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And he just goes, I've learned 
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It's not that you don't feel 
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It's that you feel fear, but you
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Like for me, my gut reaction 
when I'm fearful or anxious, but

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something isn't to immediately 
go to prayer. 

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possible solution in my head 
before I have to confront that 

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issue. 
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I figured out all the possible 

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solutions and I like. 
But then you just end up 

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becoming anxious, right? 
That entire stuff builds anxiety

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in your heart. 
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It's horrible. 
It's a terrible spiral. 

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Nehemiah, who like despite 
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appealed the two kings early. 
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appealed to to our Xerxes. 
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built or that he was able to 
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make that appeal because of his 
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build up a confidence in God if 
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and seeking an appeal to him. 
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like patience, like waiting, 
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I, I'm preparing for this week's
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And something that's like really
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says a number of times in the 
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next section that I'm preaching,
he's like, I didn't tell anyone 

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what the Lord had laid on my 
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officials, I didn't tell the 
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I didn't tell anybody. 
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said, our first or maybe our 
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deal with it ourselves. 
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naturally do is go tell other 
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I need to go seek wisdom or 

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advice from other people, which 
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But the first place we should go
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That's the first place where we 
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And Nehemiah was just allowing 
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and to wait for the Lord. 
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like four months, four months in
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report and then goes to the king
and then who knows how I however

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long the journey took, right. 
Some people say it, it was about

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a four month journey on foot. 
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maybe it's faster. 
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them to get there, but it's like
there's months of patience and 

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waiting here for Nehemiah where 
he's just waiting for the Lord 

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to reveal to him slowly his 
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As Kyle was talking, I came up 

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with another dad joke. 
Oh, why was Napoleon so feared? 

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Why? 
Because he pulled everyone's 

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bones apart. 
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My God. 
Anyway, that's a reach, man. 

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That was a reach. 
Hey, but you know what? 

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That's the first thing that came
to mind when he said Napoleon 

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Bonaparte. 
That's. 

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That's better than any of mine. 
Yeah, well, yours. 

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From Jack GBT No way, there's no
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But yeah, sorry to get back, I 
just thought I couldn't let that

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But this is like what? 

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Kyle, what Kyle kind of 
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because I knew, like when Jake 
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not the absence of fear. 
I knew that was a quote I'd 

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heard before and that there was 
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somewhere. 
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has said courage is not the 
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assessment that something else 
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And I'm thinking about like I'm 
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And you know, there's fear 
about, well, what's going to 

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happen when I come to the king? 
What what's he going to do? 

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What's he going to say? 
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And you know, there's obviously 
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there was something more 
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important fear than that fear, 
right? 

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He feared God more than he 
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He then that man. 
And so it's, it's having the 

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right fear. 
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going to be disobedient or if 
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you better pick the right one, 
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Like God or this earthly king, 
the little, little K king. 

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And I'm, I'm going to fear God. 
No for. 

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Sure. 
Yeah, That was something I, I, I

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was picking up on a little bit 
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Is that I find it interesting 
that, like, Jake really kind of 

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expanded on like that he was 
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And like, I think that in 
certain circumstances, we've all

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kind of felt that like really 
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right? 
And to have a fear of God that 

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overcomes that is kind of is 
like is amazing, you know what I

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mean? 
And it's like, I wonder what 

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kind of fear Nehemiah had of God
to look at a king who had the 

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total authority to just get him 
beheaded or I don't know, these 

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what media Persians. 
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beheading. 
And to still say, you know what 

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like my fear is for the Lord is 
greater, right? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I think honestly everything 

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points back to like his, his 
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Like he, he had total trust and 
God, he got his courage from his

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belief that God was big and he 
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everything, right? 
That's where it came from. 

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It didn't come from him at all, 
right? 

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He didn't have, he didn't have 
courage in himself or it didn't 

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come from himself. 
It came out of his belief that 

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God is faithful. 
And I just sort of like clued 

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into like again. 
So I've just been reading the 

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end of chapter 2 this morning, 
but I've noticed now it's like 

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when Nehemiah refers to God, he 
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right? 
He says that in verse 4, he's 

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praying before the God of 
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And in his prayer verse 50 Lord 
God of heaven, when he prays to 

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the like in the sight of the 
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Yeah, verse four, he says it 
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So I pray to the God of heaven. 
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too, he he says the same thing 
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20. 
I and I just lost it now in 

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verse. 20 He says The God of 
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Yeah, he says. 
The same thing there. 

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And so it's like he's constantly
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of the universe, who is outside 
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Like he is a big God. 
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all of this and he's in control.
And so that's why he's like 

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trying to gain that perspective 
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You know, you've been talking a 
lot about that the last the last

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week because of the Bible 
reading plan going through 

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Genesis and Job, and it just 
keeps coming. 

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Up because it's true, right? 
And the application for us is 

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that like they were like, I 
mean, we're not rebuilding 

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Jerusalem's walls, right? 
Like how do we apply this to our

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lives as well? 
Like we need to have faith in a 

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very big God, like he the same 
God. 

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That's like dealing with this 
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We, we serve the same God. 
It's not some different God. 

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It's not like some different. 
It's not just a story in the 

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Bible, right? 
It really happened. 

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And I think we talked about this
on last week too. 

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It's just it's incredible to 
think about and how. 

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How upsetting is it is that that
like all of us have access to 

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this really big God and still 
struggle with that faith aspect 

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to go to him in prayer before 
anything else? 

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I know. 
You know. 

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That's something that like just 
hits me so hard every time 

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because you're right. 
Like God is massive, like so, 

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so, so big, so much bigger than 
in any circumstance. 

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And yet, you know, my truck 
didn't start today and I about 

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had a temper tantrum, you know 
what I mean? 

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Like, I almost cried, like I was
so mad and like how petty and 

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foolish all of my, like my, like
my arguments that like I have 

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with, you know, my, my family, 
how small these issues are in 

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comparison to God and how still 
I'm just like, like you said 

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earlier, Joe, it is such a pride
thing to say. 

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Oh, I got this. 
You know what I mean? 

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When literally we have access to
an infinite number of 

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possibilities and power in the 
Lord that we in the Lord that we

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worship. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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And. 
As I was thinking, like I know 

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Jake said at one point that 
Nehemiah, you know, we would 

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speculate that if he's always 
testing the King's food or 

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testing his wine, that like he 
has a he's in the presence of 

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the king, you know, a few times 
throughout the day, right? 

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Every time the king is going to 
eat or drink. 

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And immediately in my mind, it 
went to like the access that we 

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have to God, like unhindered, we
can go to God whenever. 

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It's like if you wake up in the 
middle of the night and you 

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know, you feel like the need to 
pray, it's like, you know, God's

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not sleeping. 
You know he's awake and he'll 

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and he'll hear you. 
And we have that unhindered 

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access to God and he wants us to
pray. 

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He wants us to, he says if. 
You know, the eyes of the Lord 

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search the whole earth in order 
to strengthen those whose hearts

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are fully committed to Him. 
Like draw near to God and he 

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will draw near to you. 
Like He's asking us to do that. 

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But like you said, we struggle 
to have that faith. 

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We struggle to have that 
confidence and that trust to go 

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to God, right? 
It's crazy. 

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It's crazy for us to think about
that, right? 

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It's like, like, I don't know. 
I don't know why we don't sin. 

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Sin. 
It's sin. 

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Yeah. 
I like the way Jake, he like, 

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and he made this clear in his 
points. 

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Like, it's not like Nehemiah's 
courage, his trust, you know, 

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it's not his confidence and his 
resolve. 

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It's not all about Nehemiah. 
It's like this is how Nehemiah 

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demonstrated his faith. 
And I felt like that was that 

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was really good. 
It was like good application for

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us. 
Like our faith will be evident 

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to others by the way we respond 
to things in our lives, right? 

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For sure. 
So yeah, Kyle, you got anything 

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else on Nehemiah Chapter 2 I 
like? 

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It. 
I like it too build those. 

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Walls. 
Let's do it. 

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Let's build up the walls of 
Jerusalem. 

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Is that the plan? 
Yeah. 

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Let's do it. 
We're gonna build. 

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Walls around LAMC. 
Oh man, I hope they're. 

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Gonna look bad. 
It would probably look bad that.

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Might be a bad look. 
Maybe. 

447
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Maybe Donald Trump needs to 
promote the Book of Nehemiah 

448
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,960
some more. 
Rebuild the Walls. 

449
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,480
My favorite book. 
We love it. 

450
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,920
I'm really sad we don't edit on 
this podcast. 

451
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,280
I kind. 
Of feel like you should do a 

452
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,600
Trump personation for the rest 
of the podcast I think. 

453
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,000
No, please. 
That's all right. 

454
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,080
I'll leave it speaking about. 
The rest of the podcast let's 

455
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,160
talk about Kyle's sermon. 
So we'll switch gears. 

456
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Kyle, you spoke on 1st John 
Chapter 1. 

457
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,400
The whole chapter, Yeah. 
Which is a lot, yeah. 

458
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,360
Do you feel like regret over 
choosing the whole chapter? 

459
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:15,640
Yeah. 
Yeah, I I went 27 minutes and I 

460
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,760
skipped a lot of my notes, but 
yeah, did you? 

461
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,680
Did you have a title? 
No, it was. 

462
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,880
It was titled First John 1. 
I don't know, I sometimes. 

463
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,480
I want to title my sermons that 
same way. 

464
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,120
Good job. 
To be totally real, I I see the 

465
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:33,600
utility in titles, I really do. 
And like every course I've ever 

466
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,000
taken in preaching has been 
like, once you're done, it's 

467
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,320
important to tie that bow up 
you've. 

468
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:40,520
Taken more than one course. 
A few. 

469
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,920
Yeah, and I can't. 
Tell no, I'm kidding. 

470
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,880
No, it was great. 
It was. 

471
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,560
Like every time, I'm always 
like, why don't we need title? 

472
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,360
I don't know. 
It just doesn't make sense to 

473
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,920
me. 
Well, I think like you said, I, 

474
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,240
I've often been in that 
bandwagon too. 

475
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,240
And I've, I've gone through all 
the, we've talked about this a 

476
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,920
number of times, talking about 
like just go for a fact and make

477
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,240
something dramatic. 
But like the fact that you can 

478
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,920
have something where that might 
spark somebody's interest. 

479
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,280
Like if they're on the website, 
yeah, you're looking for maybe 

480
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,160
something particular. 
It's like maybe I'm looking for 

481
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,160
the Lord to lead me in something
that's like you said, the 

482
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,800
utility of titles were like a 
practical nature of how is this?

483
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,160
How is it going to apply? 
I think it starts, it can it can

484
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,040
sort of kick start application 
in the in the hearer's mind if 

485
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,040
they see a title or if they hear
it. 

486
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,040
Like Jake's sermon yesterday was
like Nehemiah a faithful servant

487
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,400
of God, right? 
Is that what it was? 

488
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,120
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

489
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:35,160
So like, and all of his points 
tied back to Nehemiah's faith. 

490
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,880
So I think sometimes they're 
helpful, but you're you're 

491
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,920
didn't have one. 
We'll. 

492
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,600
Call it. 
We'll call it the the the 

493
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,040
Apostle. 
John, watch out for these guys. 

494
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:48,960
All right? 
That's good. 

495
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,600
Yeah, that's good. 
So. 

496
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,880
Give us like a quick like you 
don't have 27 minutes, no today.

497
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,440
And so give us a quick recap. 
Sure. 

498
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,200
So yeah, essentially there's 
some weirdness at the time of 

499
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,840
that, John's writing this to the
church, There's Gnosticism, 

500
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,480
which we talked about 
Gnosticism. 

501
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,360
Is talked is filled with AG with
AG. 

502
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,320
It is, yeah. 
It's it's a cool word and comes 

503
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,920
from the. 
Word gnosis like it means 

504
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,080
knowledge, right? 
So yeah. 

505
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Like. 
Secret knowledge is what they 

506
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,360
were after. 
Like some people had secret 

507
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:18,200
knowledge. 
There you go. 

508
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,040
OK. 
Yeah, I didn't know that. 

509
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,320
Gnostic. 
Gnostic, Yeah. 

510
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,840
And so to combat a lot of these 
sort of weird Gnostic beliefs in

511
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,960
the church, John, the 
essentially first John and the 

512
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,600
other epistles, he's writing 
about false teachers and about, 

513
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,600
you know, the qualities that 
Christians should have. 

514
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,200
And the 1st chapter specifically
talks about like, you know, the,

515
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,240
the, the core of what we should 
believe, right? 

516
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,200
That the gospel that God is 
light and there's no darkness at

517
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,600
all. 
That's. 

518
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,720
Pretty central to that first 
chapter. 

519
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,640
And then following up with some 
practical steps, like, you know,

520
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,840
if you hear someone talk about 
so and so, these things are the 

521
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,320
things to look out for, right? 
And even in our own hearts, I 

522
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,520
think that that was something 
that I was trying to like, I 

523
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,360
don't know, maybe I should just 
focus on one either like look 

524
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,600
out for teachers or look out for
yourself. 

525
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,640
I try to do both, but I feel 
like it's, it's important for us

526
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,640
to take that kind of stuff and 
to look at more broadly our own 

527
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,080
faith and in our own hearts, 
right? 

528
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,120
Like, I think it's easy for 
people to kind of slip more into

529
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:19,760
these. 
Sort of. 

530
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,160
Like bad habits of belief in 
their own lives than it is for 

531
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,560
them to get swooned by some 
charismatic speaker or something

532
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,480
like that. 
Yeah, I think it's easy. 

533
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,840
I think it's really easy for us 
to like go to the opposite side 

534
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,400
though, and not examine our 
hearts and just bash false 

535
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,240
teachers. 
Yeah. 

536
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,040
It's true. 
So like it's. 

537
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,680
Easier for me to like point out 
the negative in someone else 

538
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,800
than it is for me to like turn 
my, my, my eyes back on myself. 

539
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,240
Oh, 100%. 
You know, I'm talking about the 

540
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,760
log in your own eye, right? 
It's like, like it's very easy 

541
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,040
for me to do that. 
And that's why. 

542
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,480
There. 
That's why there are like 100 

543
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,400
YouTube channels that are all 
like, this guy's evil, this 

544
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,040
guy's bad. 
And then eventually they all 

545
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,040
just start talking about each 
other back and forth. 

546
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,160
Yeah. 
They. 

547
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,200
Don't have. 
That's not discernment. 

548
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,680
Yeah. 
The discernment bloggers of the 

549
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,120
day, Yeah. 
Yeah. 

550
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,360
Carrie Newhoff had a podcast 
that just dropped today or a 

551
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,120
little video that I watched. 
It was about about the bully 

552
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:15,640
pastor and how, how like to 
build a platform online is very 

553
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,960
easy. 
It's just find something, take a

554
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,440
hard stance and go after 
everybody that's opposing you. 

555
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Yeah. 
And you'll, you'll get a 

556
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,520
following and but it's not 
healthy. 

557
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,640
It's not loving. 
And the, the negative part is 

558
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,360
like what you're like is not 
doing what like what you talked 

559
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,760
about last night. 
It's like thinking about like, 

560
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,600
where do I really love my sin? 
That was a really good point, 

561
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,240
man. 
Like thinking about, do I like 

562
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,120
if I'm thinking about sin, do I 
think about it the way God looks

563
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,920
at it right? 
Do I look forward to it? 

564
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,000
Right. 
And maybe it was a bit of an 

565
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,520
over generalization to say that 
like those who walk in darkness 

566
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,160
are people that want to be 
there. 

567
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,760
But I think that that holds 
true, right? 

568
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Like I think that the desire of 
our hearts is naturally going to

569
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,240
be where we end up going, you 
know what I mean? 

570
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,320
And so like, I don't know, to 
walk in, to walk in light, to 

571
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,440
want to walk in light, that just
shows evidence of something 

572
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760
that's happened, right? 
That shows evidence of a desire 

573
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,360
to not be in darkness anymore. 
And as someone who's born in 

574
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:19,880
darkness, it's supernatural for 
us to not want that at the time,

575
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,880
for sure. 
You know what I mean? 

576
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,360
And so that's what that goes 
back to like the First 

577
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:23,680
Corinthians, the new creation, 
right? 

578
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,080
Where our hearts are renewed, 
our minds are renewed, and the 

579
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,320
old self passes away, right? 
And so I don't know, I just, I 

580
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,560
just want people to like, want 
to be in the light, I guess. 

581
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,200
Yeah, well, what you're asking 
and what, what, what you're 

582
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,160
asking people to want and what 
the, what the text is saying is,

583
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,880
is like you're walking exposed 
like light exposes everything. 

584
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,080
Like if you put a spotlight on 
my face, you'll see every 

585
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,840
blemish, right? 
Every white hair, every, you'll,

586
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,360
you'll see all the negative 
things that, that are there. 

587
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,720
And So what you're asking people
to do is really hard. 

588
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,320
And like you mentioned earlier, 
it's going against your nature. 

589
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,000
Like you're you were born in the
darkness into sand. 

590
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
We're born into it. 
We, we are all sinners. 

591
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,120
I think we all believe that 
around this table. 

592
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,320
And like, you're asking people 
to go against their nature, and 

593
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,080
so there has to be something 
supernatural. 

594
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,920
Oh, like 100% change, Yeah. 
Yeah, that was it was super 

595
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,240
convicting, very convicting. 
Your sermon, like Jonah said, 

596
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,560
like really calling out the sin,
like do you love your sin? 

597
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,440
Do you want it? 
Are you pursuing it? 

598
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,840
Do you enjoy it? 
Like I think you were clear to 

599
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,320
say that like believers still 
struggle with sin. 

600
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,040
They still do sin. 
That doesn't mean that we're 

601
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,840
perfect, but there is an 
overwhelming desire, which like 

602
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,040
you said, I mean, it has to 
come. 

603
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,320
It has to come from the Holy 
Spirit. 

604
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,120
It has to come from somewhere. 
There is a point in our life 

605
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,080
where we sin and and we don't 
even feel any conviction over 

606
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,840
it. 
Right, Right. 

607
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,600
You know, maybe you do a little 
bit because you're is in a 

608
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,440
religious home and, and you know
that like there's this angry God

609
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,000
out there who might be upset 
about it, but you love it, you 

610
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000
enjoy it, you want to do it. 
And then there comes this point 

611
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,480
in your life where you know, 
regeneration, where you know God

612
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,920
does something in your heart, he
circumcises your heart and all 

613
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,720
of a sudden, like now that sin 
that you used to not feel bad 

614
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,480
about, now you do feel guilty 
about. 

615
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800
And so that's the difference 
between someone, someone who's 

616
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,160
who's sees the shame and guilt 
of their sin, doesn't want to do

617
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,520
it and doesn't even want to 
expose it, but still does comes 

618
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,200
to the light, right? 
Because that's we're talking 

619
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,440
about fear that sort of ties in,
right? 

620
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,960
It's like that's the right fear,
right? 

621
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800
I have a fear of like exposing, 
you know, exposing myself of 

622
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,680
coming to the light. 
Because John says that in his 

623
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,440
gospel. 
He's like, he's all about that 

624
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,640
all through his through his 
gospel and his letters that it's

625
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,600
like those who come to the light
are true believers, right? 

626
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,400
And those, and Jesus is going to
condemn those because they 

627
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,640
refuse to come to the light. 
Why do they refuse to come to 

628
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,280
the light? 
Because they love their sin. 

629
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,360
They love the darkness. 
And so they purposely don't come

630
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,480
to Christ. 
But we, we do, you know, as hard

631
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,720
as it is we do, we come to 
Christ and we let him expose our

632
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,040
sin and we need to fight more to
deal with it. 

633
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,240
Be strong for purity. 
Well, and it also comes down 

634
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,240
right like to sanctification, 
and I think that to grow more 

635
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,320
towards being like Christ or to 
desire holiness and to seek 

636
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,600
after it. 
Like when we're saved, all of us

637
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,040
are we, we begin our 
sanctification journey, right 

638
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,480
where we begin that process of 
becoming more and more holy. 

639
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,600
And like for a new believer, 
the, the, the, I guess 

640
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,640
expectation of sin frequency in 
their life is going to be 

641
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,280
different than someone who's 
like seasoned in the faith, 

642
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,800
right? 
Like someone who is just freshly

643
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,480
saved. 
We almost expect them to not be 

644
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,480
very good at being saved because
they are new. 

645
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,920
You know what I mean? 
And the same thing it went like 

646
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,080
on the opposite side. 
When you talk to somebody who 

647
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,040
has been a Christian for a long 
time, who is diligent in their 

648
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,840
study, who is seeking the Lord, 
We always have this higher 

649
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,400
expectation of them. 
And we should that they know 

650
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,400
more. 
They've been in it more. 

651
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,200
There should be a a less desire 
to sin than that of a new 

652
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,400
person. 
And so I think it the I worded 

653
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,880
it carefully that we should be 
seeing a decrease in the 

654
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960
frequency of which we are 
sinning, right? 

655
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,400
I read this book a little while 
ago, which I highly recommend 

656
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,240
called Saved without a doubt by 
John MacArthur. 

657
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,760
And it was a book that like 
completely changed my life. 

658
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Like before I read it, I was 
like always just so nervous 

659
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,880
about like, am I saved? 
Am I saved? 

660
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,840
Am I saved? 
I wasn't sure what to do. 

661
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,840
And I was like, really like 
everything that I did was like, 

662
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,560
oh, man, but that's a sign of an
unsafe person. 

663
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,840
So what do I do? 
And like reading this book just 

664
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,920
completely shifted my mind and 
brought me back to like a really

665
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,320
good sort of like it kind of 
undid a lot of anxiety tangled 

666
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,800
mint and kind of let all my 
like, it left all my wires 

667
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,720
straight so that I could go back
to the Bible and to actually 

668
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,240
like have this fresh view. 
And one of the points that he 

669
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,320
makes is do you decrease in the 
sin that you're committing, 

670
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,200
right? 
Like you said, as Christians, 

671
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,040
it's impossible for us to like 
on this side of heaven to never 

672
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,680
sin again. 
And John says in first John that

673
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,240
if we say we have no sin, we're 
liars, right? 

674
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,440
Right. 
So even the Bible knows that. 

675
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,200
But seeing the decrease, seeing 
the sanctification, the growth 

676
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:19,040
and the process towards towards 
holiness, I think that that's 

677
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,000
supposed to be an assurance for 
us to be able to look at that 

678
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,320
decrease in our desire to sin 
and our increase in our desire 

679
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,720
to serve the Lord and to say 
that's, that's the spirit there 

680
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,120
it is. 
I'm seeing that. 

681
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,040
And so, yeah, I feel like first 
John as as a whole book, people 

682
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,960
tend to look at it and get real 
nervous about their faith, 

683
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,720
right? 
They tend to be like, well, he 

684
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,120
who has sinned, you know, he, 
he, he is not saved. 

685
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,400
And it's like, well, I sin. 
Well, like, I think John was not

686
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,880
writing this to, like, bash 
people. 

687
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,920
He was. 
It was a volatile time of false 

688
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,400
teaching. 
He was trying to build people up

689
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,680
to give assurance to their 
faith. 

690
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,040
And so I think that when we look
at this book, it's important for

691
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,920
us to to realize that this is 
supposed to be for our benefit. 

692
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,480
Yeah. 
For an assurance of our faith. 

693
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Right. 
Well, he says that at the end of

694
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,600
the book too, right? 
He's like, I've, I've written 

695
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,600
these things so that you may 
know that you are saved. 

696
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,160
Right. 
And so you're absolutely right. 

697
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,880
Yeah. 
To me, this is it's the first 

698
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200
John is called in my mind. 
I always think of the this is 

699
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,480
how you know. 
So I call it this is how you 

700
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,920
know book like this is how you 
know you're saved. 

701
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,520
But I mean he gives them and 
he'll say it Chapter 2 like 9 

702
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,000
times. 
Yeah, maybe not that many 6 I 

703
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,160
think at least this is how you 
know this is how you know this 

704
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,640
is how you know, right. 
So yeah, it's all about 

705
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,840
assurance. 
It's good. 

706
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,640
Well. 
And one of the things you said 

707
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,320
sort of in your first through 
like verses one through 3, you 

708
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,840
talked about true Christians 
find joy in the message of 

709
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Christ and speaking about it. 
And so you were just talking 

710
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,200
about like, because that that's 
why John was writing. 

711
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,240
He's like, man, we're, we're 
writing about what we've seen, 

712
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,360
what we've heard, what we've 
touched, you know, all these 

713
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,120
things. 
And we're writing to you so that

714
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,960
our joy may be complete, right? 
And it's like there's this idea 

715
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,280
that if we have this truth, you 
know, like you said, there's, 

716
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,840
there's Gnosticism, there's 
these different beliefs about 

717
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,760
who Jesus is or isn't. 
And we're trying to tell you 

718
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,960
that like, no, this was really 
the Son of God in the flesh, the

719
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,280
true Messiah. 
He was the one that was 

720
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,719
prophesied. 
He was the fulfillment of all of

721
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,280
those promises in the Old 
Testament. 

722
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,960
And we saw him, we witnessed 
him, we heard him, we touched 

723
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,480
him like, and we're writing to 
you so that our joy would be 

724
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,199
complete. 
The implication being that you 

725
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,159
would believe in him too, and 
that you would be your savior. 

726
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,360
And it's like that really struck
me because I think a lot of 

727
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,520
times, you know, I've heard this
joke. 

728
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,040
I think it's Dave Ramsey says 
like, you know, this Christian 

729
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,840
lady who's like, I'm a 
Christian. 

730
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,600
He's like, well, maybe you 
should tell your face. 

731
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,520
It's like. 
Do we want, you know, it's like,

732
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,679
do we walk around with that joy,
right? 

733
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,600
And does it impact other areas 
of our life? 

734
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,560
And we hear testimonies of 
people like that, right? 

735
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,440
Even though going through 
trials, even though you go 

736
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,159
through hard seasons, there is 
times of weeping, there is times

737
00:34:56,159 --> 00:35:01,720
of hardship, but is there a joy 
that that surpasses those those 

738
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:04,520
feelings, a commitment and a 
peace that comes through knowing

739
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,280
Christ? 
Yeah. 

740
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,840
What's? 
The undertone of your life, 

741
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,800
right? 
Like, do you have an undertone 

742
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,720
of just being completely 
miserable all the time? 

743
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,680
Like even when things are happy 
and you're in a good mood, it's 

744
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,000
the general undertone still that
you're miserable, right, right. 

745
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,120
I think as Christians, we don't 
really have an excuse to to have

746
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,520
that. 
And believe me, I don't know, I 

747
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,760
feel like there's a lot of times
in life where it's just really 

748
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,040
easy to be really pessimistic. 
But like, what is the undertone,

749
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,000
right? 
Like we have so many things to 

750
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,680
be thankful for and to be joyful
for. 

751
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,400
And so like, just even John 
John's example of, of saying, 

752
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,240
like the whole reason why I'm 
even doing this is because it's 

753
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,960
a complete of my joy, like to 
give you assurance and to spread

754
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,120
this mess message. 
It brings me a completeness of 

755
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,640
joy, right. 
And it's like we should be like,

756
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,800
we should be happy to, to give 
assurance or to like, maybe not 

757
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,040
to rebuke, like we shouldn't be 
like excited to be like I'm 

758
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,720
going into rebuke, but like we 
should, we should be happy when 

759
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,280
people hear us out when we're, 
when we're being truthful. 

760
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,720
And so I think that there's 
just, there should just be like 

761
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,920
a general joyful undertone to 
the Christian life, even when 

762
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,200
things are really, really hard. 
You know, well, maybe that's 

763
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,160
maybe that, though, not sharing 
the gospel is why we lack joy 

764
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,000
because I mean, wait, I, I've 
said this, I, I feel like I've 

765
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:25,840
broken record. 
I know I've said this a couple 

766
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,360
times in sermons over the last 
year, but like the joy, like the

767
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,800
completion of the joy, like 
sharing it is a completion of 

768
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,760
the joy, right? 
It's like we don't go to a 

769
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,880
restaurant, enjoy the food and 
just keep it to ourself. 

770
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,920
It's like, no, once you then 
what do people do when they go 

771
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,600
to a restaurant? 
What do people do when they come

772
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,360
back from vacation? 
They tell you all about it. 

773
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,000
They tell you all the fun things
they did and how good the room 

774
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,520
was and how nice the sun was or 
how good the food. 

775
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,960
Like that's actually a part of 
the fulfillment of the joy. 

776
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,840
And so maybe we lack joy in our 
lives because we're not talking 

777
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,920
about Christ enough. 
We're not giving him glory 

778
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,480
enough. 
You know, maybe we are being too

779
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,320
pessimistic and too whiny and 
complaining and man, maybe, 

780
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,160
maybe the solution to the 
problem is just talk way more 

781
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,600
about Christ, I think. 
So that's what John's doing like

782
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,800
all right, so like verse one, 
what was from the beginning, 

783
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,040
Jesus was in the beginning. 
We learned that from John one 

784
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,040
right? 
What we have heard, we heard 

785
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,080
him. 
What we see, what we've seen 

786
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,240
with ours, we've seen him. 
What we observed and we've 

787
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,040
touched with our hands 
concerning the word of life. 

788
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,000
Like this is the message I'm 
giving you, the message of the 

789
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:41,960
good news that the God of the 
universe took on flesh and came 

790
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,160
and spent time with us. 
This is This is why I'm happy. 

791
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,200
My joys may complete when I give
this message to you. 

792
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Yeah, it was revealed and we 
have seen it. 

793
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,240
And we testify and declare to 
you the eternal life, right? 

794
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,480
That was with the Father, and it
was revealed to us. 

795
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Man, it's just so good. 
And then he goes into this idea 

796
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,200
of fellowship, like Jesus came 
so that we could have fellowship

797
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,800
with the Father. 
It's good news. 

798
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,920
That's joyful, right? 
And now we get to share 

799
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,760
fellowship with you around this 
one thing. 

800
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Do so good, well and. 
When you tie in, like, you know,

801
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600
to Jake's point in his sermon 
about waiting and being patient,

802
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,000
when you tie in, like when we're
in the book of Nehemiah, I mean,

803
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,800
they're going to rebuild the 
wall and it's going to be OK, 

804
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,240
but it's not going to be what it
was, right? 

805
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,840
And everybody's left wanting. 
Like this still is not what 

806
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,760
we're expecting. 
And then you have 400 years of 

807
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,160
silence. 
Nothing. 

808
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,240
Yeah, that's. 
What's coming, right? 

809
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,040
That's what's. 
Coming after Nehemiah like this,

810
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,240
Nehemiah is right before that, 
400 years of silence and you get

811
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,280
nothing. 
God doesn't speak through 

812
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,840
prophets. 
He doesn't speak anything. 

813
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,800
And you get nothing. 
And then you get John after 

814
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Christ comes. 
That's why he's like, man, we 

815
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,080
saw it with our own eyes, like 
he came and it was the 

816
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,200
fulfilment of all of our hopes 
and dreams. 

817
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,120
It's like, yeah, of course he's 
going to be excited. 

818
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,360
You know? 
That's what they've been waiting

819
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,760
for this whole time. 
Yeah. 

820
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Yeah, One other thing like when 
we talk about when we talk about

821
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,920
this, I think it's important for
us if to to understand our joy 

822
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:14,160
is like Jesus is not something 
that was like was right. 

823
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,720
Right, that's one thing. 
We have to keep in mind, oh, 

824
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:20,280
yeah, like, yeah, he was at the 
beginning and he was during this

825
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,440
time, but he still is. 
And I think that's hard for like

826
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,200
sometimes I think there's a 
disconnect there for people is 

827
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,360
like, like, OK, I'm just talking
about this stuff that happened 

828
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,640
2000 years ago for now me and my
I'm talking about something 

829
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,120
happened 2500 years ago. 
And it's like it's all back 

830
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,720
there. 
And I'm just trying to figure 

831
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,240
out to just draw principles to 
help me live my life in a better

832
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,240
way. 
And like in that way, this book 

833
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,160
is a self help book. 
But like, if I'm thinking about 

834
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,200
like, OK, the same God is the 
God I worship and he's alive and

835
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,400
Jesus is this, he's here now 
that changes your perspective. 

836
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,280
Well. 
For sure. 

837
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,880
And like I know that like I've 
heard, I've seen like online 

838
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,440
threads and whatever that talk 
about, like how hard it is and 

839
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,600
how like how am I supposed to 
have joy? 

840
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,920
And then people will list off, 
you know, X amount of 

841
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,720
circumstances, right? 
But the reality is, and this is 

842
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:12,240
far easier said than done, and 
this is painting with a very 

843
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,440
broad brush. 
But the reality is that like if 

844
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,920
you, you know, lost your job, 
your house, your family and you 

845
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,400
were out and homeless on, you 
know, on the road, if you have 

846
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Christ, there's nothing that can
take that from you, right? 

847
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,080
Like that joy can still be made 
complete. 

848
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,840
Like we, what do we find our joy
in? 

849
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,360
I feel like when people think 
about the joy that they feel in 

850
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,280
their life, they're like, well, 
I don't feel joy. 

851
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,880
I'm miserable. 
And you ask them why and they 

852
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,000
go, well, my car won't start 
like mine this morning. 

853
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,720
Or they're like, and you know, 
I'm all alone and I'm going to 

854
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:47,600
lose the house. 
And it's like, like, those are 

855
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,560
all terrible traumatic 
circumstances, but those are all

856
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,000
weird places to be or not weird,
but like they're all wrong 

857
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,320
places to be finding fulfillment
of joy, right? 

858
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,120
Like the joy that we have as 
Christians shouldn't be in our 

859
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,720
job or in our car or in our 
family. 

860
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,880
Those things can be by products 
of joy. 

861
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Yeah, they can help. 
But we can 100% be happy with 

862
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,480
our families. 
It's good. 

863
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,000
That's a good thing to find joy 
and be happy with your family. 

864
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,280
It's a good thing to have a 
home. 

865
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,840
It's a good thing to have a car.
But if those are the things that

866
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,280
we ultimately find that joy in, 
we're not going to be complete 

867
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,120
in that joy like like John 
outlines, right? 

868
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,080
We're going to be miserable at 
some point. 

869
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,480
There'll always be more, but we 
can lose it all with Christ and 

870
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,760
still find that fulfillment of 
joy. 

871
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,120
And that's why I don't mind 
saying that there should be a 

872
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,200
general undertone of joy to the 
Christian life because in all 

873
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,760
circumstances that joy is still 
available. 

874
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,200
Yeah. 
Absolutely. 

875
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,600
And that's so encouraging. 
It reminded me of like Paul, the

876
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,480
way he opens his second 
Corinthians he's talking about, 

877
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440
he's praising God, you know, God
who comforts us in all of our 

878
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,000
affliction. 
And then he goes on to say, for 

879
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,160
we do not want you to be 
unaware, brothers, of the 

880
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,520
affliction we experienced in 
Asia. 

881
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,160
For we were so utterly burdened 
beyond our strength that we 

882
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,920
despaired of life itself. 
Man, it was so hard. 

883
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,040
We just wanted to die. 
We just thought life would be. 

884
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Then he says, indeed, we felt 
that we had received the 

885
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,840
sentence of death, but that was 
to make us rely not on 

886
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,360
ourselves, but on God, who 
raises the dead. 

887
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,360
He delivered us from such deadly
peril, and he will deliver us on

888
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,600
him. 
We have set our hope that he 

889
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,080
will deliver us again. 
And so it's just like, man, it's

890
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,040
like, like you said, that hope 
that we have that. 

891
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,680
Yeah, in these situations, they 
suck. 

892
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:42,080
And it's like, man, we, I I 
don't even want to go on living 

893
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,720
anymore. 
But God is allowing those 

894
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:48,520
difficulties in those trials so 
that we'll rely on him even more

895
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,240
than we do. 
And I and then, you know, the 

896
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,120
Lord allows suffering in our 
life for that reason. 

897
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,720
Now he can sanctify us in ways 
of suffering that he just I 

898
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,800
don't want to say he can't. 
But like that when things are 

899
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,640
going good, you just you just 
don't right, because you become 

900
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,760
self reliant. 
That's one of the warnings God 

901
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,800
gave to his people. 
Israel, once I bring you into 

902
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,440
the land, you know, don't forget
where you came from. 

903
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,200
Don't forget that all this came 
from me. 

904
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,000
Don't forget all of that. 
And that's exactly what they 

905
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,040
did. 
But there was so much hardship 

906
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,960
in going in. 
They had to trust God. 

907
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,800
But then it's like now we're 
here. 

908
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,200
Now we're in the promised land. 
And. 

909
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,120
And immediately the next 
generation forgets God. 

910
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,920
Yeah. 
Well, God is it's, yeah, it 

911
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,680
comes down to like God is good 
and through the good things he 

912
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,040
can sanctify you. 
But God is so good that even 

913
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,440
through the worst of things, he 
can still sanctify you. 

914
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,200
Right. 
Like his goodness Trump's those 

915
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,280
terrible circumstances in every 
turn. 

916
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,360
So on. 
Yeah, for sure. 

917
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,280
I don't want to leave off first.
John 19. 

918
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,200
Oh yeah, Gospel you. 
Ended on that verse. 

919
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,800
Yeah, you held it out. 
You you tricked us. 

920
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,440
I did. 
You got 3 sermon. 

921
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,720
And then he said, oh, but first 
John 19. 

922
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:57,640
And now? 
7 more minutes. 

923
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,960
It's OK. 
That's why I didn't feel like, 

924
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,320
honestly, your sermon didn't 
feel like 27 minutes. 

925
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,960
No, I didn't, I thought. 
I went for five and I got real 

926
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,960
nervous. 
It was good. 

927
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960
No, it was, it was good. 
But yeah, I think all that, all 

928
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,840
that stuff like living in 
darkness and then and then like 

929
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,400
the desire, why would we desire 
to have our lives exposed, 

930
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,760
right? 
Because he's faithful. 

931
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,840
He is faithful. 
And righteous. 

932
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,840
That's the, that's the whole 
point of first John 19. 

933
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,320
It's like if you confess your 
sin, like if you live in the 

934
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,600
light, he's faithful to forgive 
your sin and to cleanse you from

935
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,080
all righteousness. 
But he's, he's faithful and he's

936
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,200
just, that's the that is one 
thing to think about too. 

937
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,360
Like, like forgiving your sin. 
It's not something that you 

938
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,040
deserve, but He is just in 
forgiving your sin because he's 

939
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,400
the God of the universe. 
Exactly, exactly Isaiah 61. 

940
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,520
What is 61? 
Eight Fry the Lord love justice,

941
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,960
that justice is served in 
Christ, right? 

942
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Right. 
Because what is what does our 

943
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,440
sin deserve? 
Wrath. 

944
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,920
Wrath. 
The just thing would be for us 

945
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,360
to die and never be, never ever 
be like connected with the Lord,

946
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,720
right? 
It deserves wrath. 

947
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,000
But in God's grace, he, he sent 
Jesus. 

948
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,280
If we confess our sins, he, he's
talking about Jesus. 

949
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,320
The word is faithful and just to
forgive us of our sins. 

950
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,160
Yeah. 
And he cleanses us from all 

951
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:14,880
unrighteousness. 
Yeah. 

952
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,600
So. 
Yeah. 

953
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,920
And I think. 
In I sort of like, I know we're 

954
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,400
going a little long, but we're 
not we're good. 

955
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,760
I was like in like going along 
with that. 

956
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,280
I think that's also why it's so 
important that John highlights 

957
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,480
in verses 8 and 10 that, you 
know, he who says he has no sin 

958
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,480
does not have the truth in him. 
It's because understanding your 

959
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,920
sin, it's pretty vital to being 
able to repent of it. 

960
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,240
It is. 
Yeah. 

961
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,520
Like if you're not, if you're 
sinless in your own mind, what 

962
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,960
do you have to repent of? 
Right. 

963
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,680
And so I think that it's it like
I think that those verses are so

964
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:49,040
perfectly, well, obviously it's 
God, but so perfectly like put 

965
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,160
together because it shows like 
it doesn't just, it doesn't just

966
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,000
say like, you know, if you say 
you're without sin, you're a 

967
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,880
liar. 
Moving on, it gives the reason 

968
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,560
why and that when you repent of 
your sins, that is when you know

969
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,560
Christ is faithful and just to 
forgive you, right? 

970
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,360
And so you can't do that if you 
have no cursory, if you have no 

971
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,760
knowledge at all of sin. 
Yeah, that's good. 

972
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,280
Yeah, Cuz what are we doing when
we say, when we say that we're 

973
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,800
not, we don't have sin. 
Like you gave one example. 

974
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,000
What are we doing? 
What what is that God doing when

975
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,880
he says, Hey, I haven't sinned 
since I was converted? 

976
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,000
Well, he's not really pointing 
to Christ. 

977
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,000
He's pointing to his, his own 
strength and power, right. 

978
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,560
And that doesn't point. 
Like, I would much rather see 

979
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,200
someone who's like a like a very
vulnerable, repentant person and

980
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,800
willing to confess their sin 
than someone who's just super 

981
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,680
prideful and, and doesn't. 
And so, yeah, it's just a really

982
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,360
encouraging message. 
I really appreciated it all. 

983
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,760
Glory being to Christ that 
reminds. 

984
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Me of the pride reminds me of a 
story I heard once. 

985
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,040
I have no idea if it's true or 
not but I guess some some men 

986
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,200
were hanging out like a men's 
Bible study or something like 

987
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,720
that. 
A man stood up in the meeting 

988
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:00,120
and said, I haven't sinned in 15
years. 

989
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,200
And the the guy who was leading 
or the pastor, whoever says, I 

990
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,400
bet you're pretty proud of that.
Yes, I am. 

991
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,760
Streak broken. 
That's awesome. 

992
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,680
Well, I was gonna just. 
I don't know what you're saying,

993
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,680
actually. 
Like you said that. 

994
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,840
Like, what does it mean? 
Like what are we doing when we 

995
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,040
are denying our sin? 
And you mentioned that, but I 

996
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,320
think it's also important to ask
what are we doing when we are 

997
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,720
confessing our sin? 
We look at like the Life and 

998
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:28,800
Times of Jesus and like Jesus, 
like we look at the guy that 

999
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,840
comes through the ceiling where 
he goes, your sins are forgiven.

1000
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,960
And the Pharisee goes, well, who
can forgive sins? 

1001
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,640
But God, And he says, well, what
is, what is more like difficult 

1002
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,600
for me for a man to forgive sins
for or for a man to command 

1003
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,560
someone to walk. 
And like, when we are confessing

1004
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,480
our sins, we're acknowledging 
that he is God, that he is holy 

1005
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,280
and he is able to forgive sin. 
That's right. 

1006
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,320
When we're laying then at his 
feet, we are saying God, we are 

1007
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,160
in agreement that only God can 
forgive sins and he is God, you 

1008
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,080
know, And so that's why I think 
those two are. 

1009
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,480
So those verses are so like well
put together because they're 

1010
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,080
complementary in so many 
different ways. 

1011
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,280
Well, it. 
Reminds me of something you said

1012
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,320
about repentance, right? 
Repentance is turning away from 

1013
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,000
sin. 
And when you turn away from sin,

1014
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,240
you're turning towards something
else, right? 

1015
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,440
And it reminded, and then you 
said you're turning toward God. 

1016
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,400
That's repentance. 
It's turning from sin, turning 

1017
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,360
from your own way of living, 
turning back to God. 

1018
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,000
And it reminded me of my sermon 
in Nehemiah, which is exactly 

1019
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,400
what he said. 
He said in verse 8, he's like, 

1020
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,040
remember the word that you 
commanded your, your servant 

1021
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Moses saying if you are 
unfaithful, I will scatter you 

1022
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,720
among the peoples. 
It's like if you're unfaithful 

1023
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:38,360
to me, I'm going to scatter you 
all over the place, right? 

1024
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,480
I'm going to take you from this 
land, I'll uproot you and I'll 

1025
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,480
punish you. 
But if you return to me and keep

1026
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,120
my commandments and do them. 
And so that's exactly what I 

1027
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,040
thought of in that when I was 
preaching that sermon. 

1028
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,920
It's like it's turning you. 
You went this way away from God.

1029
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,720
And then when you recognize your
sin and confessed it, you turned

1030
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:03,680
back to God and then started to 
follow his word in his ways, 

1031
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,280
right. 
Being led by the light, which I 

1032
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,000
just thought, I thought was 
really good that you drew that 

1033
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,560
out. 
Well, yeah. 

1034
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,640
It's light and darkness, right? 
And you turn away from 1, you 

1035
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,840
turn towards the other right. 
Exactly. 

1036
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,520
That's good. 
The two ways to live, two ways 

1037
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,800
to live, Yeah. 
So any final words on any either

1038
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,480
one? 
No, cuz you're just gonna say 

1039
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,960
that I talk too much. 
No. 

1040
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,960
I'm. 
Not gonna say that I'm not 

1041
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:24,840
gonna. 
Say that no. 

1042
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,120
Repent of your sins and believe 
in Christ. 

1043
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,720
Repent. 
And believe the gospel, yeah. 

1044
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,040
That's my final word on that. 
Good, Joe. 

1045
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,680
Yeah, I I'm good. 
I thought it was really good. 

1046
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,320
It's nice to see young guys. 
I'm 26, I'm not that young 

1047
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:39,880
anymore. 
Joe A. 

1048
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,200
Young buck, my back. 
Hurts. 

1049
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,840
No, it was good. 
It was really encouraging. 

1050
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,520
See people come out and yeah, 
it's fun that we have an 

1051
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,840
opportunity for for up and 
coming preachers to Yep. 

1052
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,520
To preach. 
Yeah. 

1053
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,640
Yesterday was an encouraging day
overall, Yeah. 

1054
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,200
Thanks so much for the 
opportunity. 

1055
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,360
I really appreciate it. 
Well, we'll. 

1056
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,160
Be looking for more and so I'm 
sure you'll be just be ready, 

1057
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,080
ready for the shoulder tap. 
OK we'll put you on again. 

1058
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,920
So yeah. 
So we've been starting to end 

1059
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,960
with prayer. 
Would you mind praying Kyle to 

1060
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,440
to close this out today? 
I can do. 

1061
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,920
That, yeah. 
All right, Father, thank you so 

1062
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,520
much for this opportunity and I 
thank you again just for the 

1063
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,360
ministry at LAMC got I thank you
for Joe and Jonah and Jake and 

1064
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,600
for their willingness to lead us
and to and to preach your word. 

1065
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,680
And I thank you God, that I 
thank you God that we have you. 

1066
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:32,320
We have access to you like we 
just talked about with me and 

1067
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,720
Maya. 
I just thank you God that we 

1068
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:37,160
have the ability to come to you 
to be courageous because we know

1069
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:42,000
that we are on your side and 
that we can lay our our hearts 

1070
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,800
to you God, and that you will 
hear us and that you provide for

1071
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,600
us. 
We thank you for every good 

1072
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,760
gift. 
We thank you for all the hard 

1073
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,640
times as well Lord, because we 
know that in them you are 

1074
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,320
sanctifying us and growing us 
closer to you. 

1075
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,600
We thank you God. 
We pray this in your heavenly 

1076
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,440
name. 
Amen. 

1077
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,320
Amen. 
All right. 

1078
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,160
Well, LMC, we're praying for you
and we hope you have a great 

1079
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,640
week. 
See you next time.