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I got fired after insulting the 
owner's disabled daughter. 

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Although my work performance has
been praised, my boss decided I 

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wasn't a good fit. 
This happened on Friday. 

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I've been drowning my sorrows 
all weekend dreading the fact I 

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have to start looking for a new 
job. 

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Explaining why I got fired from 
my old job is going to be fun. 

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I'm typing it up here to try and
organize my thoughts in my head 

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because right now it's all a 
mess. 

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I had been with the company for 
three months and was still on 

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orientation. 
My job was sales slash 

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advertising. 
As the new guy, I was given 

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existing accounts to manage, 
which consisted of providing 

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customer service and convincing 
my clients to spend more money 

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on advertising. 
All of these accounts already 

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had their ad campaigns done, and
if they wanted something new, 

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the account was transferred to a
senior account manager who would

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work with our advertising guys 
to put something together for 

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the customer. 
Eventually I hoped to have that 

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job, but I had to pay my dues by
proving I could maintain 

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existing accounts and convince 
them to spend more money first. 

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Everything was going great until
last week when we were scheduled

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to have our quarterly retreat. 
Since we were the main regional 

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office in the area, all of the 
employees from the satellite 

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locations came to our office for
the retreat. 

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The owner of the company rarely 
visits our office. 

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He's been overseeing the setup 
of a new satellite office for 

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the last year according to my Co
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But he was there for the 
retreat, as was his disabled 

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daughter Amy. 
Not her real name for the sake 

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of privacy. 
One of my Co workers told me Amy

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works at one of the satellite 
offices and I probably wouldn't 

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have much interaction with her 
but I should be nice. 

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That seemed like a no brainer. 
I'm nice to everyone regardless.

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I won't claim to be an expert on
Amy's disability, but it seemed 

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like she had childlike 
mannerisms and struggled with 

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expressing herself. 
She also had some problems with 

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motor skills. 
I'll describe the only 

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interaction I had with her prior
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I went to refill my coffee and 
Amy was in front of me getting 

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her coffee. 
I watched her struggle with 

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getting condiments at it and 
putting the lid on, so I 

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politely asked if she needed any
help. 

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She thanked me, said she did, 
and let me finish making it. 

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While I was making it, she said 
she hated coffee, but her dad 

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made her drink it because she 
had to, in a loud voice, always 

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alert. 
I smiled, said that was 

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definitely important and handed 
her the cup. 

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She thanked me again and went 
back to the office her dad was 

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using where she had been most of
the day. 

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I felt like I had been a Good 
Samaritan and went on my way. 

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Most of the retreat is team 
building exercises. 

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Prior to the incident, Amy only 
participated in the puzzle race 

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where groups put puzzles 
together without the box art to 

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see which team could finish 
faster. 

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Amy wasn't in my group, so I 
didn't have any interaction with

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her there. 
Neither of our teams won the big

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event and the one that everyone 
seemed the most excited for was 

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the last activity of the day. 
Our boss gave us a list of 

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potential clients. 
We were supposed to select three

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as a group and put together 
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customer. 
We were told we would be judged 

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on our creativity. 
My group explained that we could

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do pictures, slogans, jingles, 
whatever we wanted. 

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Each person expected to work on 
one individually, then work with

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their group to Polish it up 
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everyone. 
It was kind of a big deal 

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because at previous retreats 
there would be clients on the 

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list. 
The owner was already close to 

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bringing on board, and if you 
impress the owner, you might 

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just land that account. 
I went with a Jingle, rhymed a 

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few words and recorded it. 
It was silly, but fit the brand.

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My group gave me some pointers, 
we made some improvements, and I

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recorded the final product for 
submission. 

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I helped my team with their 
projects until it was time to 

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turn everything in. 
After everything was turned in, 

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we gathered in the big 
conference room to critique each

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other. 
The owner went through them one 

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by one. 
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storyboard, he'd put it up, read
it, and we'd make comments, good

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or bad. 
There were some that were great,

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which drew a lot of compliments,
and some that were really bad, 

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which we laughed about. 
As a group, you could tell the 

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senior account managers didn't 
care much about the exercise or 

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put much effort into their 
pitches. 

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Nobody seemed to get upset or 
offended, regardless of the 

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feedback. 
When my Jingle was played, it 

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got a lot of comments, not all 
of them good, and I took the 

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feedback with a smile. 
After getting my feedback, I 

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felt a little more comfortable 
about sharing my thoughts on 

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other presentations. 
I gave what I thought was 

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valuable feedback to a few 
products, laughed at a couple 

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others, and then a rather crude 
drawing was put up for the exact

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same company I had chosen. 
I immediately joked that well, 

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at least my Jingle was better 
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draw it, and laughed to absolute
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I was really confused because 
plenty of people had made jokes 

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and everyone laughed. 
Instead. 

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A few people looked at me like I
was disgusting and the owner 

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said well if you don't have 
anything nice to say, keep it to

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yourself. 
Maybe. 

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Then my boss scooted down to 
where I was sitting and told me 

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I needed to go to my desk now. 
I noticed as I was gathering my 

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things that the owner's daughter
was red faced and starting to 

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tear up. 
The team building exercise was 

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over for me. 
I went back to my desk and it 

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began to sink in that the 
drawing must have been drawn by 

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the owner's daughter. 
There was no warning or 

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anything. 
The owner didn't reveal who put 

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together what we were looking at
until after a few critiques. 

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Maybe I should have known 
everyone was joking and having 

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fun up to that point. 
Someone else had a pretty bad 

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drawing that got laughed at. 
Either way, I felt awful. 

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As soon as the event was over, I
approached my boss to apologize.

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He told me to wait for him in 
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Long story short, I was fired. 
My boss said since I was still 

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on orientation, he had decided I
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company so it was better to let 
me go. 

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Now he didn't outright say I was
being fired for making fun of 

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her drawing, but that's 
literally the only thing that 

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I've ever gotten in trouble for.
My work up until that point had 

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been praised. 
I didn't get much time to 

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process it because my boss had 
already called security, who 

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showed up fairly quickly and 
escorted me to my desk to gather

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my things before escorting me 
out of the building. 

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An hour later, I got a call from
one of my former teammates who 

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asked if I wanted to join the 
team for a drink one last time. 

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They needed it after the retreat
and felt bad that they didn't 

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warn me. 
I wasn't feeling up for it, but 

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I wanted to try and make sense 
of the whole situation so I went

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to the bar. 
In the back of my mind I was 

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thinking that since I'm about to
start looking for a new job, a 

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few references from former Co 
workers wouldn't be bad since I 

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definitely won't be getting one 
from my boss or the owner of the

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company. 
After everything that happened, 

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the team explained that Amy 
comes to all of these retreats 

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and she always does some crude 
drawing like that. 

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Everyone just sort of knows to 
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move on. 
One of my teammates said that 

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once you've seen one of her 
drawings, you know what to look 

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for. 
Well, I didn't, and nobody 

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warned me. 
I started to get pretty upset 

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that this was a known thing and 
everyone knew but me. 

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But what could I do? 
I had already fucked up and it 

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cost me my job. 
The team also shared more about 

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Amy. 
Apparently she works at one of 

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the satellite offices but 
doesn't really do anything. 

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The people in charge of the 
office try to come up with stuff

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for her to do because she gets 
upset when she's bored. 

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The team said the way the people
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they were basically her 
babysitter so she wouldn't 

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bother her dad all day when he 
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And after he moved on to 
establish the new satellite 

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office, he didn't take Amy with 
him because she liked all the 

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friends she had at that office. 
They also said that her dad had 

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harassed a few single guys at 
the office to take her on dates,

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which seemed pretty damn HR 
inappropriate, but he does own 

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the company. 
My team said Amy desperately 

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wants a boyfriend and wants to 
get married, which she talks 

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about all the time. 
The consensus seemed to be that 

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there's no way she actually 
understands how relationships or

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marriage works, and her dad 
probably put this idea in her 

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head to begin with. 
One of my team mates joked that 

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it wasn't a bad deal because 
whoever married her would 

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inherit the company since she is
the old man's only kid. 

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I wasn't really in the mood for 
jokes at that point after losing

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my job over 1, so I told them I 
needed to go. 

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The only good thing is my former
team members did say they would 

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gladly give me a reference if I 
needed it since they felt so bad

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about not telling me about the 
Amy's situation to begin with. 

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Oh, and the cherry on top? 
Amy sent me a Facebook friend 

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request over the weekend. 
I haven't accepted it. 

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I already upset her and it cost 
me my job. 

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Part of me wants to accept it, 
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I'm not sure I'm ready for that 
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I'm going to take a few days to 
get myself together and then get

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my resume out there. 
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replies, including quite a few 
DMS and talking with a close 

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friend, I've decided that I'm 
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request. 
I'll do an update if there's any

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sort of conversation. 
I plan to open with an apology. 

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If she replies, great. 
If she doesn't, then at least I 

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will have a clear conscience 
knowing I've done the right 

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thing. 
Update If you saw my first post,

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you know that I got fired 
because I accidentally made a 

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joke at the expense of the 
company owners disabled daughter

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Amy. 
During the last team building 

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event of the day. 
We were pitching ideas for 

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accounts which included 
everything from jingles, my 

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pitch, to storyboards to slogans
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A lot of senior account managers
were phoning it in and people 

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were making jokes about their 
work which had a lot of people 

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laughing. 
I got some jokes about my pitch 

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and got a little overconfident. 
So when a crude drawing went up 

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for the same account I did my 
Jingle for, I made a joke about 

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it. 
The joke was, well at least my 

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Jingle was better than that. 
Did a three-year old draw it? 

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My joke was met with stone cold 
silence and a very negative 

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reaction from the owner of the 
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What my Co workers had failed to
tell me was that Amy usually 

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submits A crude drawing which is
a lot of work for her due to her

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issues and everyone knows to say
a few nice things and move on. 

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I was new and wasn't informed so
my ignorance and inappropriate 

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response cost me my job. 
After meeting with my team at a 

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bar to begin the process of 
drowning my sorrows, I got a 

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friend request from Amy on 
Facebook. 

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That brings us to the update. 
First of all, thank you to 

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everyone who made me laugh the 
first time someone joked about 

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me accepting the friend request.
Marrying Amy and taking my 

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revenge by inheriting the 
company made me uncomfortable. 

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By the third time I saw it 
mentioned, I couldn't help but 

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laugh. 
A lot of you gave me good 

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advice. 
I appreciate those who talked 

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about legal action and what 
options I had. 

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Unfortunately, I was still on 
orientation with my company 

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which is like a probationary 
period. 

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During that time they can let me
go for any reason. 

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They could fire me for wearing 
the wrong color socks if they 

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wanted. 
I had to sign an agreement to 

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get employed which stated I 
understood this. 

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There's literally nothing I can 
do legally. 

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At the end of the day, I decided
to go have some drinks with a 

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good friend, talk things out, 
and see what he would do. 

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Dave's been my best friend since
we were in elementary school. 

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We've probably spent more time 
together than some actual 

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brothers. 
Dave was firmly on the side of 

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accept a friend request, 
apologize, and clear your 

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conscience. 
Man. 

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I'm getting us another round of 
shots. 

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He knows me better than anyone, 
and he knows that the guilt 

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would eat me alive. 
I posted it here because it 

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bothered me. 
I decided to take his advice and

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everyone here who pushed me for 
that as well, especially the 

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ones that DM Ed me. 
So that's what I did. 

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I accepted the friend request. 
I immediately messaged Amy. 

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I said I shouldn't have made 
that joke about anyone's work, 

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it was unprofessional and I was 
sorry. 

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It took her a while to respond 
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thanked me for my apology but 
said she sent me the request 

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because she wanted to apologize 
since I lost my job over it. 

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I said she didn't owe me an 
apology and there was another 

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long pause before she asked if 
she could copy paste something 

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to me. 
I wasn't sure what it was but 

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said she could. 
She pasted a generic message but

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one she had clearly spent some 
time on. 

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I don't want to type it word for
word but I'll paraphrase. 

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Hi, my name is Amy. 
Please forgive me if I'm slow to

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respond to you. 
I suffered a brain injury when I

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was a little girl and it takes 
me a while to type things out. 

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There was more to it but that's 
the basic stuff. 

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I responded saying it was not a 
problem and she could take all 

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the time she needed. 
Amy and I ended up messaging 

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back and forth until almost 3:00
AM. 

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No, we didn't fall in love. 
We aren't going on a date. 

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I'm not going to marry her for 
revenge so I can take her dad's 

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company. 
However, I do think I would like

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to be friends with her. 
Not because I feel bad for her, 

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but because she's a genuinely 
nice person and honestly, 

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everyone could use a few friends
like that. 

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We spent a lot of time talking 
about her. 

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That's just the direction it 
went, so I asked questions since

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she seemed comfortable talking 
about it. 

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Amy was in a car accident when 
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She was in the car with her mom 
and they were hit by a drunk 

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driver coming back from a 
birthday party for one of her 

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classmates. 
Her mom didn't make it and Amy 

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suffered a brain injury that 
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Because it makes it difficult 
for her to speak and do simple 

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things like getting dressed, 
making coffee, etcetera, people 

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assume she's mentally 
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She was put in special Ed 
because of it but worked really 

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hard and graduated from high 
school. 

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She even wanted to go to 
college, but her dad didn't 

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think it was a good idea. 
Her life has been difficult 

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because it's hard for her to 
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By the time she can get a fully 
formed sentence out, the 

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conversation is over. 
She can type slowly, but most 

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people don't want to type when 
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She even admitted that when 
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sometimes carry a tablet and 
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that's just easier. 
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the drawing and my terrible 
response to it. 

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She wasn't that offended by my 
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didn't know. 
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she knew all hell was about to 
break loose and she had no way 

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to communicate with anyone. 
She was so upset when she found 

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out I got fired and tried to 
talk to her dad but he wouldn't 

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listen to her. 
She's fully aware that a lot of 

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people at the company just 
pretend to be nice to her 

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because she's the owner's 
daughter, but she does have a 

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few friends at the satellite 
office where she works who 

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better understand her 
disability. 

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She gets frustrated because she 
can't truly contribute anything,

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but is happy when they are able 
to find busy work for her to do.

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It might take her all day to do 
something another person could 

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do in a couple of hours, but 
it's better than sitting around 

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bored all day. 
She knows she's a burden and a 

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bother to her dad when he's 
around, but he's her dad and she

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loves him. 
She wishes every single day she 

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was a daughter he could be proud
of rather than a burden. 

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She tries talking to him via 
emails and text messages, but he

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usually doesn't respond. 
If they're in the same location,

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he'll just walk over and respond
verbally, which is frustrating 

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because it becomes A1 sided 
discussion with her unable to do

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anything but give simple one 
word answers like yes or no. 

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She also thanked me again for 
helping with her coffee. 

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She said that when she was 
younger she tried to do 

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everything by herself and would 
get mad when people helped her, 

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but now she's learned to 
appreciate the few who do. 

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Most just stand there and look 
away, pretending to patiently 

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wait for her to do it on her 
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It was getting late for both of 
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Really late. 
It takes her a long time to 

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respond to messages. 
There's misspellings. 

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I get why someone would assume 
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I myself referred to her in my 
first post as having childlike 

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mannerisms, which was a 
misunderstanding on my part. 

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When she tries to force words 
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she gets really loud, which 
makes her sound like an excited 

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toddler rather than an adult 
trying to have a conversation. 

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We ended our talk last night, 
agreeing to talk again sometime.

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She asked if I had watched the 
first episode of House of Dragon

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yet, which I have, and she asked
if I'd like to talk about it. 

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After she watched it. 
I told her I'd love to, so 

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that's it. 
That's the update. 

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Sorry to those who expected me 
to steal her dad's company, I'm 

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definitely not doing that. 
Talking to Amy did make me feel 

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a lot better though. 
I don't know how I'm going to 

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handle the whole firing thing at
my next interview, but a few of 

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you suggested I just leave a gap
on my resume and I may just do 

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that. 
I doubt there will be any future

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updates, but at least this has a
happier ending than my first 

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post. 
TLDR since a few asked for it in

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my first post. 
I lost my job but I may have 

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gained a friend. 
Comment by OPU slash fluster 

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flux. 
Hey everyone, I am the original 

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OP Someone linked me to this and
I'm blown away by all the 

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positive comments here. 
I guess I can give you a small 

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update since so many people have
read what I expected to be a 

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throwaway confession post to 
help me organize my thoughts 

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after having my life upended due
to what I perceived as a joke 

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but was actually quite 
unprofessional on my part. 

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As many have recommended, in my 
next job, I won't open my mouth 

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unless I have something positive
to say. 

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Regardless of what others are 
saying, that lesson is learned. 

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So on to the small update. 
I talked with Amy again last 

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night, She loved House of 
Dragon. 

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We talked about a few characters
and Amy picked up some things I 

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didn't pick up myself. 
So I'm going to have to re watch

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the first episode at some point.
I wasn't really in the right 

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headspace the first time I 
watched it anyway due to 

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everything that happened. 
Thank you for watching.