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What does the nanny do? 
 
OK, so we're done. 

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Goodbye. 
 
You shut it off. 

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Do not twist my words. 
 
Do not make me a victim, 

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sweetie. 
 
Just look at the mountain. 

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That's what you saw that day. 
 
Just the knife in the kidneys 

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over all these years, the 
 
sacrifices that I made to love 

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you. 
 
Season 6 Episode 5 Christmas 

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Surprise we are having Christmas

 in July. 

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Christmas in July. 
 
All I want for Christmas is July

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weather. 
 
That's my wish every fucking 

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Christmas. 
 
Beautiful, Your song moved me, 

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honey. 
 
And you know, growing up white 

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trash. 
 
When I think of July Christmas, 

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I think of think there was like 
 a Marlboro cigarette special 

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where they would have special 
 
signage at the gas station that 

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was like welcome to the Marlboro

 Christmas in July. 

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And I'm like, OK, of course this

 is associated with a cigarette

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brand in my mind. 
 
Send in your Marlboro tabs and 

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you'll get a free cooler for 
 
your beer. 

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Oh yes, if anyone has any 
 
Marlboro points they want to 

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mail to me, I'll give them to my

 mom. 

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In the 90s that totally works. 

That Pizza Hut for reading your 

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book. 
 
Book it. 

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And jump rope for heart. 
 
All right, let's move on. 

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Well, I hope you enjoyed a 
 
little bit of that Christmas 

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spirit for the intro of this 
 
episode and that you were moved 

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by the holiday. 
 
Even if it's made-up and you're 

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only hearing the Christmas 
 
spirit in your ears, please also

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hear it in your heart. 
 
And in Kimber's case, that's 

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that cavity that's open in the 

middle of your chest. 

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As you said, we are 5 episodes 

into Season 6. 

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We're just moving right along 
 
and we're going to have a 

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Christmas surprise. 
 
I don't think you'll be very 

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surprised by any of this. 
 
But they had to use some kind of

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title. 
 
We are at Christine's rental and

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we are packing for moving today.

 

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Move. 
Day move, day still. 
 

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Packing and moving that day and 
they ull U in a van and a moving

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 truck in front of the house 
and kind of get some like 

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movements 
 throughout the 
property, throughout the house. 

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And Christine grabs a door and 

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she goes. 
 
They've scuffed a door already. 

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Yes, those kids will have to 
 
pay. 

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Kids. 
 
Yes, well, I mean, you know, 

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having children does ruin your 

life. 

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I've always had this but. 
 
Yeah, they scuff many a thing. 

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No, they're a blessing. 
 
A holiday blessing. 

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A Christmas blessing children 
 
ruining your belongings. 

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Oh, we. 
 
Just have this quick moment with

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Christine where it's packing up 
 some things. 

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There's going to be more than 
 
one load, blah, blah, blah. 

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We're at the house and then we 

go to Janelle's house, where 

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Maddie tells us that she's been 
 enjoying being able to go to 

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the new house to escape Hunter 
when 
 he's driving her crazy. 

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And so it was a moment for 
 
Maddie. 

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We haven't gotten a lot of 
 
Maddie moments recently. 

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She was alert, awake and I don't

 think she was high. 

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No, she must have ejected 
 
herself for a while so that she 

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could live her best life. 
 
And we get a clip from Maddie 

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here. 
 
Surprise, surprise. 

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After many a clip last season, 

this is kind of a treat. 

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Yeah, I'm like Hunter must 
 
torment her or something. 

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I don't. 
 
Yeah, there's something there. 

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But as we know, Meri still does 
 not have her house. 

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Oh no. 
 
And if the financing doesn't go 

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through, she may have to do 
 
other financing is what she 

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tells us. 
 
And I'm going is this even true 

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or just manufactured drama in 
 
the sense of the money? 

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I'm wondering if they were 
 
really suspecting that her 

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financing wouldn't come through 
 or if it's like we've been 

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discussing in our previous 
 
episodes where she just took so 

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long that her paperwork is just 
 in process and no one should 

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really be that worried about the

 financing. 

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It's hard for me to put my put 

my finger on it. 

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It is because they don't really 
 talk about the process. 

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They kind of like hodgepodge 
 
together the process and give us

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like tidbits about the paperwork

 was filed, the paperwork was 

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approved and when they bring 
 
this up, they say we still don't

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know if they will even get 
 
financing on her home. 

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Which I don't quite understand. 
 

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Well, and in the last episode, 
if we're on the actual timeline 

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 here, probably would have only 
been a day or two before some of

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 the clips because they're 
talking about, oh, we just filed

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 your paperwork. 
Mona's saying at the kitchen 
 

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table where they're Dang Dingle 
dangling their feet at Chanel's.

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And it's like, I don't know, the

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timeline is, is it Frank invited

 together or is it reality? 

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Because they could have been 
 
pulling clips from past, 

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present, future. 
 
Put that in there. 

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They tell us, though, that this 
 episode is starting off on 

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January 2nd, that January 2nd is

 when the Brown family is going

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to celebrate Christmas, which is

 a week after normal Christmas 

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or, you know, Christmas Day, 
 
blah blah blah. 

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So what we can take away from 
 
that is that Meri's time between

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Christmas and New Year's was 
 
spent wondering if she was going

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to be getting any notifications,

 and then that didn't happen. 

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They're giving Meri more time so

 that they can pretend that it 

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happens for Leon on Christmas. 

Well, and the other wives 

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getting their keys right before 
 Christmas, there is an element 

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of it's probably just too 
 
chaotic, too much to do 

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Christmas on Christmas Day and 

partnered with sparing Meri and 

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Leon's very, very, very 
 
sensitive and delicate feelings.

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So when Kody shows up at 
 
Christine's house while they're 

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unloading and setting up the new

 place and being all excited 

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and enthusiastic, he walks in 
and he 
 goes, honey, I'm home. 

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And I was like, OMG, like, I 
 
love honey, I'm home. 

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I actually think it's kind of 
 
funny. 

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I probably would say it if I had

 anyone to go home to. 

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It's just funny that Kody says 

it and then immediately goes to 

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the kids and is like, oh truly, 
 like, blah, blah, blah. 

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Not it. 
 
And it's all this like happy 

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moment, truly. 
 
My little Princess. 

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Didn't we just hear from Isabel 
 about how he's not around and 

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they don't know where he is? 
 
Could be that he's that excited 

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to see them because it's been 2 
 weeks, I don't know. 

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I finally get to see my children

 that I'm avoiding that. 

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I'm avoiding like the Plague, as

 we will find out later, 

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actually happens during the 
plague, yeah. 
 100 Christine 

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suggests that they start a 
company called the Brown 
 

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Family Moving Company for how 
many times they've moved. 
 

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They're just constantly moving 
and they're so good at it. 
 

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And I'm like, OK, so Kody cannot
be the president or the CEO of 


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that company. 
It's got to be Meri. 
 

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And then Meri's got to be the 
workers. 
 

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Meri's got to be HR Meri has to 
be the entire thing. 
 

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She does 80% of the work when 
they're moving and in this 
 

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episode they show clips of them 
hauling things and moving 
 

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things. 
And Meri's, I was like taking up

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 the front or pushing up the 
back and I'm like, yes, Meri, 

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like 
 she could carry a couch 
on her own. 
 

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She is so good at moving. 
They do keep showing clips of 
 

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all of the boys, like the older 
boys moving big pieces of 
 

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furniture together. 
And they show like a clip where 

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 Logan is just like standing in 
the middle of the piece of 
 

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furniture, playing light as a 
feather, stiff as a board while 

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 his brothers carry on either 
end. 
 

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And it's like, Logan, just 
fucking walk away please. 
 

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That's so funny. 
Christine tells us that she 
 

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won't miss her rental home with 
even one fiber of her body. 
 

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So, you know, I get that there's
places you move on from and 
 

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you're like, I'm not going to, 
you know, I'm not going to say 


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this place was terrible, but I'm
not going to miss it at all. 
 

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But not even one fiber of her 
hot pink knee length skirt. 
 

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Not even one fiber of her brown 
tights, or not even a fiber of 


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the Jean jacket or the white 
shirt with the black polka dots 

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 under it. 
You can't even spare one fiber 


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of your being, Christine. 
The layers alone. 
 

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From that outfit, wow, sounds 
like there could have been some 

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 fibers to spare for her rental.
Many a fiber. 
 

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Many a fiber. 
Wow, thank you for that one, 
 

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honey. 
That was good. 
 

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Which of course queues up the 
typical flashback to the move to

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 Las Vegas that we have to have
every episode. 
 

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Let's not waste anytime on that.
They show us clips then moving 


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to Vegas. 
We don't give a fuck. 
 

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It's already happened, stop 
talking about it. 
 

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Because then we get Kody talking
about all of the hope that 
 

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they've had along the way to get
to where they are, and he's just

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 saying Hallelujah, Hallelujah 
to where they're at. 
 

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It's like all of these hopes and
dreams along the way that we've 

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 had to get through along the 
Oregon Trail. 
 

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Hallelujah, he says. 
Hallelujah. 
 

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Hallelujah. 
What's it to you I'm. 
 

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Just feeling very festive with 
the holiday. 
 

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Excuse me, the Christmas spirit 
entering my body? 
 

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Do you see what ice don't you? 
Honey, it couldn't be any worse 

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 than the spirit of Christmas 
entering and exiting my body 
 

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repeatedly. 
It would have been good if I 
 

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could have got there, but oh, 
she couldn't do it. 
 

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She couldn't do it. 
We get an exterior shot of the 


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cul-de-sac and the bottom third 
now says. 
 

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Brown family cul-de-sac. 
I finally named the cul-de-sac 


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and it was so creative. 
The Brown family cul-de-sac. 
 

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But you know, as we discussed in
our last episode, we were really

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 beat over the head with the 
location disclaimers or 
 

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notifications, whatever you want
to call them, that those bottom 

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 thirds. 
And so this episode we got less,

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 but there was still too many. 
Like every time they would go 
 

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back to the cul-de-sac, they put
it up and it's like, we know 
 

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what this is. 
We remember. 
 

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We get it, We got it. 
Good. 
 

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Thanks for wasting our time, 
TLC. 
 

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As you're listening to this 
podcast, thanks for wasting our 

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 time, TLC. 
We see Meri looking into a van 


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window in the middle of the 
cul-de-sac. 
 

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A minivan darling? 
Yes, a minivan and who be but on

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 the other side of that window,
then Leon behind the wheel. 
 

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Leon behind the wheel. 
Staring longingly at their 
 

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future home. 
It sounds like we went from 
 

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Christmas to Halloween like 
Scary Movie Leon behind the 
 

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wheel. 
Meri is gentle parenting the 
 

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shit out of Leon before gentle 
parenting was a thing. 
 

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Oh, gentle parenting as opposed 
to rough parenting. 
 

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As opposed to tyrannical 
parenting, Leon gets gentle 
 

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parented. 
Even while Leon is being gently 

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 parented, they are seething. 
We can. 
 

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I just wanted to say seething. 
With anger. 
 

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Well, Leon is staring up at that
house at the end of the 
 

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cul-de-sac, which is Meri's 
house, and Meri is apologizing, 

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 saying there's nothing that she
can do about the situation. 
 

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And then Meri asks, how do you 
feel about this? 
 

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Leon admits that they're jealous
and says I'm pissed. 
 

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Off. 
Yeah, I'm pissed off. 
 

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So aggressive. 
It's like you're sitting in a 
 

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minivan staring at a house at a 
cul-de-sac. 
 

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Like take it all in. 
To us Moi aggressive oh por 
 

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favor. 
Crack off. 
 

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Of course, Leon talks about 
being happy for the others, but 

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 that there's nothing that they 
can do to change things. 
 

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Oh, and then Leon's crying and 
says it's just right there and I

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 was like, Boo Hoo I. 
Just want to go inside. 
 

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Yeah, the world's smallest 
violin was playing for Leon. 
 

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And Meri's like honey, I'm just 
trying to talk to you, just. 
 

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Trying to yeah, some of their 
back and forths. 
 

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You're right, gentle parent. 
It's it's sounded like Meri. 
 

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Meri's looking at Leanna going 
and how does it make you feel 
 

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and what can I do to help you 
and how can I make that any 
 

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better? 
I was like, bitch, you can't. 
 

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You asked him to change the 
fireplace at the last minute, 
 

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and now we're stuck here, 
sitting in the cul-de-sac in our

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 van, looking through the 
windows. 
 

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If you would have submitted your
paperwork on the 19th instead of

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 the 20th or whatever the dates
would have been. 
 

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And not tried to blow a builder 
Dan for more things to get fixed

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 in your home that weren't even
wrong to begin with. 
 

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Oh man, you know, then maybe you
wouldn't have been disappointing

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 your child so greatly. 
We cut to the couch with 
 

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Christine and Christine makes a 
valid point here. 
 

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Christine says Leon has watched 
Janelle and I be able to have 
 

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babies and Meri couldn't have 
that. 
 

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They kind of go back and forth 
and they're they're giving Leon 

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 grace about their reaction due 
to the fact that Leon has had a 

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 lot of disappointments, AKA not
having siblings in their life. 


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Plenty of siblings, just not 
Meri's children. 
 

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Well, right. 
And Christine says this whole 
 

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thing reminds me of that. 
And I was like, Kimber just said

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 this in the last episode. 
You just pointed out that there 

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 was a similarity in that. 
There was a parallel in that. 
 

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Because everybody keeps lying to
Leon to placate them. 
 

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I don't know. 
They think Leon's fragile. 
 

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They think, what of Leon? 
Because Leon has been the only 


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one in the family to completely 
declare that they want plural 
 

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marriage and to follow the 
doctrine. 
 

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And Leon is the only one not to 
have any siblings. 
 

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And Leon is the one with big 
emotions, just like Meri. 
 

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And we all placate to Leon. 
And we kept our home in Lehigh 


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just in case Leon wanted to go 
to school and stay there. 
 

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Like there's this common thread,
right? 
 

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Some only child syndrome 
whatnotness in a family of 22, 


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apparently. 
Perhaps, and Kody keeps saying 


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the comment that we find odd 
about how they're being raised 


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as siblings, but we find out 
more and more that even when 
 

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they were living in the same 
home, since they were being 
 

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raised by three different moms, 
they were being raised 
 

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differently and separately and 
not as siblings. 
 

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Nature versus nurture with this 
family. 
 

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It's very interesting to me. 
Yeah, interesting throwback. 
 

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Christine says she feels safe 
having all the kids around at 
 

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the cul-de-sac while they're on 
the couch discussing, and Kody 


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jokes about the block walls 
around their properties and how 

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 it looks like a polygamist 
compound. 
 

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Yeah, he points out that they're
in a gated community with cinder

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 blocks surrounding it, and 
they show a clip of all of the 

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little 
 kids in the middle of 
the cul-de-sac on rollerblades, 

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on 
 Razor scooters, each doing 
their thing on the brand new. 
 

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You remember how smooth roller 
skates were on brand new, like 


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black. 
Asphalt. 
 

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Rolled out asphalt. 
Oh, that's. 
 

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A three bearing rollerblade, I'm
telling you. 
 

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Level 3 on new asphalt. 
Nothing smoother. 
 

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Nothing smoother than my balls, 
baby. 
 

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Oh, you took up landscaping all 
of a sudden? 
 

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I did take offense to when you 
said that because I do 
 

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landscape. 
Thank you very much. 
 

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I know that you do, and I know 
this, which is so sorry. 
 

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I'll apologize on air for making
that joke about. 
 

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Manscape with the manosphere. 
You know, I just didn't want to 

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 be too cliche blah blah blah, 
fill in the blanks. 
 

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So Kody makes a joke about how 
with the gated community and the

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 cinder blocks surrounding 
them, it looks like a plague 

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compound. 
 
Plague, Plague. 

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Plague. 
 
Plague. 

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And I think Janelle actually 
 
comes out and says compound for 

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the first time during. 
 
Compound Christine wishes Kody 

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would just keep thoughts like 
 
that in his head. 

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Yeah, don't say that, Kody goes 
 it's just silly, like it's us 

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being silly. 
 
And Christine goes, it's not 

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silly. 
 
There's a negative connotation, 

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so Q the FLDS montage of the 
 
compounds. 

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Oh my God, Warren Jeffs photo 
 
flashes on the screen. 

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Oh, he's such a criminal. 
 
Well, he actually is. 

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I shouldn't laugh at that. 
 
He's terrible. 

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And behind locked gates is where

 those people were held, you 

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know, against their will. 
 
They were held captive well 

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against their will and quotes. 

You know, the history, the 

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whatever. 
 
Christine says that she does not

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want to be related to any of 
 
that at all, and she says a 

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compound is the absolute 
 
opposite of what our homes are. 

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Yes, because the compound means 
 fear and control and their 

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family and their homes are not 

full of fear and control. 

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Opposite of that and there's 
 
freedom and we can all go 

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wherever we want here. 
 
We get a transition to Meri's 

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rental where she's packing, 
 
taping up some boxes, and then 

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we get a shot of her mom packing

 up some boxes. 

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Bonnie's visiting to help with 

the move. 

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Bonnie's calling to town and I 

haven't watched the entirety of 

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this show. 
 
I have not even watched any 

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seasons from the episode that 
 
we're recording on. 

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I've just seen clips on TikTok 

or read the books at this point.

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So I've never seen a shot of 
 
Meri's mother from the top of 

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the head. 
 
Right. 

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So I was a little taken aback by

 the fact that Fanny is 

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obviously losing her hair. 
 
And I just want to say to 

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anybody out there that is female

 presenting, if you are losing 

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your hair, I understand that it 
 fucking sucks. 

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And I do swear by Neutrophil. 
 
I know it's super expensive. 

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They don't sponsor the podcast 

but I would recommend it. 

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Give yourself some fucking grace

 because genetics are a bitch 

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and we cannot help that shit. 
 
So moving on from that, just 

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wanted to give some tips and 
 
tricks because losing hair 

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fucking sucks. 
 
I lost it after having babies 

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for a while. 
 
It's a bitch. 

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And maybe you wouldn't expect it

 from this podcast, but it's a 

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little bit of a cheap shot to be

 making fun of hair loss. 

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And so we're going to. 
 
You know, we give Kody a lot of 

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guff for his hair loss, but 
 
that's because he's so fucking 

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vain. 
 
And obsessed with it, yeah. 

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Absolutely. 
 
I think that it depends on the 

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person and you need to know, 
 
like when it's like punch to the

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ear or kick to the kidney or a 

knife to the kidney. 

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And I do not want anyone to ever

 feel like we're picking on 

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people for their differences. 
 
You know this show. 

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The thing about it is they put 

themselves out there. 

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Kody is what we know he is. 
 
If you have this issue, 

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seriously don't feel bad and go 
 to your doctor first because 

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might be something wrong. 
 
Like really truly. 

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So take care of yourselves. 
 
Take care of yourself. 

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And we don't want any punching. 
 

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We don't want any kicking. 
We we don't want Grandma Bonnie 

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 to get kicked in the tooth, no.
We don't want Grandma Bonnie to 

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 get kicked in the tooth. 
That would be terrible. 
 

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Oh. 
No, she'd have to wash her mouth

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00:20:07,412 --> 00:20:12,052

 in the wet bar. 
Oh God, Meri gets a call from 
 

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Danny from Pinnacle Homes. 
I was like, oh, Danny, that must

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 be what they called Daniel 
because they're so familiar, 
 

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because Meri spent so much time 
with Daniel the builder. 
 

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Well, I heard Danny and I was 
like, did Meri just go? 
 

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Oh, Daddy. 
I was like honey, Danny. 
 

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Danny but with their accent. 
It was very bizarre and I had to

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 take a break there and it was 
not Daddy, it was Danny. 
 

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And I was so proud of myself 
because I remembered Daniel the 

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 builder. 
I remembered his name and I knew

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 that she was saying Danny, not
Daddy. 
 

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I was having a lot of successful
moments during this scene. 
 

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00:20:50,128 --> 00:20:54,104
Maybe I've been going through a 
dry spell, Daddy. 
 

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Oh God. 
Oh my. 
 

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But daddy, I mean, Danny tells 
them. 
 

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That daddy Danny. 
Calls to let Meri know that he 


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is ready for them to come take a
tour because she probably 
 

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00:21:07,748 --> 00:21:10,528
pestered him enough and drove 
him crazy enough about. 
 

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My mom is here and she's been 
through so much and I've been 
 

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through so much and Leon's on 
the edge of a nervous breakdown.

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Can you please show us the home?

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And Leon hasn't even fully seen 
 it yet. 

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Right. 
 
We've seen footage of Leon 

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seeing these houses pretty much 
 built. 

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So, OK, Leon hasn't been able to

 see your uneven pendant lights

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and your crooked mantle. 
 
Leon hasn't been able to put 

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their own fake marble on the 
 
mantle to make sure that it's a 

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OK. 
 
Leon pulls out a protractor and 

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he's like, can I do anything? 
 
Can I? 

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Can I solve any problems? 
 
An Abacus. 

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An Abacus. 
 
Perhaps to calculate the 

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velocity of the corner that 
 
needs to happen this way and 

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that way to make it even. 
 
Look at us saying words and 

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things. 
 
As they arrived to Meri's house 

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and they entered the home, there

 is sad, sad, sad music 

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playing. 
And I was just kind of 
 

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distracted by it because I 
thought, wow, you would think 
 

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there was a death in the family.
But it's just that they haven't 

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 moved into the house quite yet,
and the builder is going out of 

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 their way to give them a tour 
of this home that he probably 
 

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shouldn't even do. 
How many days before Christmas? 

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Thank you, Daddy. 

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Oh, I think this. 
 
Oh, yeah, right. 

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Is this before or after 
 
Christmas? 

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The real 10, Not the Brown 
 
Christmas after. 

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Betwixt the 2O Not much time. 
 
Not much time. 

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And so either way, Daddy Danny, 
 hope that Robyn gave you enough

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00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,920
Bee Gees to pay for. 
 
This need a refund. 

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Leon compliments Meri's choices,

 specifically the counters and 

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the cabinets and the color 
 
choice. 

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00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,520
Looks beautiful, mom. 
 
So beautiful. 

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00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,160
I love this color. 
 
And then Leon says I don't want 

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to leave. 
 
Can we just stay here? 

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00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,600
Where is Leon from all of a 
 
sudden? 

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I don't know, does this happen a

 lot? 

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00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,640
Can we just stay here? 
 
I don't want to leave Mama. 

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00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,480
It does happen. 
 
Can we? 

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Just stay here. 
 
It does happen, but you know, 

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00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,320
OK. 
 
Well, remember said I was an 

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00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,800
actress. 
 
Meri talks about how Leon has 

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00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,244
been confused with the financing

 process, and Meri says she 

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00:23:20,244 --> 00:23:24,160
can't help with any clearing up 
 because she doesn't understand 

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00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,440
herself. 
 
Meri says she can't explain to 

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00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,080
Leon why Janelle and Christine 

are in their homes and they're 

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00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,280
not. 
 
And I went duh, because you 

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00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,680
didn't get your fucking shit 
 
done, lady. 

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00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,760
Like it's not some sort of 
 
mystical thing that no one could

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00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,880
ever know. 
 
It's like you were behind on 

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00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,400
your shit or you asked for too 

much stuff for the home, or 

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00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,320
both. 
 
And now you're making it sound 

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00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,680
like, well, who knows what 
 
Janelle and Christine, what 

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00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,640
those people did with their 
 
paperwork to make it work. 

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00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,920
It's like, no, those people 
 
didn't do anything wrong with 

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00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,160
whatever. 
 
You didn't get your shit in. 

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00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,480
Well, right, that's the most 
 
disgusting part of this clip is 

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that Meri says Leon doesn't 
 
understand financing. 

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00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,240
But that's not even just it. 
 
Leon thinks that nobody on the 

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00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,160
job sites or the financing is 
 
doing their jobs because, OK, 

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00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,800
all this stuff is getting done 

at the other houses, why isn't 

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00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,000
it getting done here? 
 
The people are slacking on their

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00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,680
jobs here. 
 
Meri kind of goes along with 

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00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520
this and just says, well, they 

don't understand how these 

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00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,640
people's jobs work and neither 

do I. 

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00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,600
And like Meri is putting it off 
 on somebody else. 

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00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,400
Yep, absolutely. 
 
Putting it off on somebody else,

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as they always do. 
 
And I have a feeling that Meri 

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is telling Leon that they're not

 doing their jobs instead of 

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00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,880
taking ownership. 
 
I think so as well. 

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00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,000
I mean she says so out loud. 
 
It's literally she's blowing 

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00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,640
smoke up everybody's skirt. 
 
That's the gist of what it's 

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00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,320
going to come down to and that 

she's trying to hide She. 

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00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,720
Didn't get her shit done and now

 it's all just a mystery to her

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00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,920
how it just isn't done. 
 
And Leon, they are doing their 

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00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,800
jobs. 
 
And just because they're doing 

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00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,720
them over there doesn't mean 
 
they're not doing them over 

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00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,320
here, even though we're not over

 there where we want to be. 

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00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,400
My God. 
 
And all of a sudden it's 

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00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,720
nighttime and Kody pulls up to 

Meri's rental for a family 

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00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,760
meeting. 
 
Oh, everyone's sitting around 

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00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,360
the table. 
 
Another family meeting. 

443
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:18,880
This family loves a family 
 
meeting. 

444
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,040
And they start talking about 
 
Christmas and what this means 

445
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,760
and how they're going to do 
 
their Christmas. 

446
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,690
And they chat about putting up a

 tree at Janelle's house 

447
00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:30,840
because she happens to have a 
Christmas 
 tree. 

448
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,360
Of all the wives. 
 
I think that's kind of funny. 

449
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,440
It is Christmas morning. 
 
We'll be at Janelle's as Kody is

450
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,760
rolling up to the house, like 
 
quite literally with his bag. 

451
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,640
Kody says, this may be the last 
 time I drag my luggage here. 

452
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,000
Let's hope so. 
 
Dragging his roller bag up the 

453
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,640
sidewalk and it's like boom, 
 
bouncing over each crack in the 

454
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,320
sidewalk. 
 
And he's literally just on 

455
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,440
camera. 
 
And they're showing that 

456
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,640
happening. 
 
And it reminds me of middle 

457
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,520
school when the people that 
 
would show up that like weren't 

458
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,280
cool had roller bags instead of 
 backpacks. 

459
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,680
Well, you were so cool, honey. 

You were so popular. 

460
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,320
No, I knew it wasn't cool 
 
because I had to hide the fact 

461
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,720
that I wasn't popular. 
 
Yes, you knew to leave your 

462
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,360
roller bag at home. 
 
I fucking knew it, but that 

463
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:22,480
bitch wanted to come so bad. 
 
While they're at this family 

464
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,840
meeting, you would think maybe 

they're here to discuss their 

465
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,560
enterprise, my sister, wife's 
 
closet, or to continue Christmas

466
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,920
planning. 
 
But no, no details about those 

467
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,360
things other than this special 

activity for Christmas. 

468
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,160
He talks about how every year 
 
his mom would make caramels for 

469
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Christmas. 
 
I need to say caramels because 

470
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,800
they say caramels, and I say 
 
caramel because I prefer the 

471
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,280
formal. 
 
But I'll try to remember that 

472
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,840
it's caramels. 
 
But this year, Kody's mom can't 

473
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,200
make them. 
 
We don't know why she's just 

474
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,640
unable to perform her duty. 
 
Probably that arthritis from 

475
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,112
cooking for the family for her. 
 

476
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,200
How many goddamn decades? 
Is the ranch mom? 
 

477
00:27:02,208 --> 00:27:05,984
Oh, but don't fear everyone, 
she's sending her recipes. 
 

478
00:27:05,992 --> 00:27:11,325
So Kody suggests all the wives 
can make her caramels and he 
 

479
00:27:11,333 --> 00:27:14,982
says if someone can make 
caramels better than my mom then

480
00:27:14,982 --> 00:27:17,966

 they are worthy of being my 
wife. 
 

481
00:27:17,974 --> 00:27:26,124
And everyone laughs and I held 
down the vomit. 
 

482
00:27:26,132 --> 00:27:30,895
They make a joke about how, oh, 
we'd be doing this the day of. 


483
00:27:30,903 --> 00:27:34,690
And Kody's like, well, yeah, 
that's what I was thinking. 
 

484
00:27:34,698 --> 00:27:39,504
And I'm like, do you even know 
how people make caramel? 
 

485
00:27:39,512 --> 00:27:44,594
Like, it is not an easy process.
Plus it has to cool and harden. 

486
00:27:44,594 --> 00:27:46,400
 
Like, you might be making that 

487
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,440
caramel in the morning and then 
 it's like 10 hours later. 

488
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,080
We're trying these like, oh. 
 
OK. 

489
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,920
Kody, come on, Your mom's been 

making it for forever and you 

490
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720
don't even know how it's made. 

Yeah, that makes sense, 

491
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,920
actually. 
 
Kody's like it's an annual 

492
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,360
tradition. 
 
My mother, I do it every year. 

493
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,880
I have no idea what it takes. 
 
I just eat it. 

494
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,760
I was out with the boys chopping

 wood in the forest. 

495
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,560
Yeah, burying dead animals, 
 
that's what he. 

496
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Burying dead animals and cutting

 firewood. 

497
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,280
Chopping down those trees, 
 
Janelle tells us that she has a 

498
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,280
secret weapon. 
 
Her mom, Cheryl, is visiting for

499
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Christmas and Cheryl has some 
 
extra special insight into 

500
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,520
making this caramel because, oh,

 Cheryl has helped make this 

501
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,080
caramel before. 
 
Not because she's a neighbor, 

502
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,297
not because she's a good friend,

 but because she is Kody's 

503
00:28:38,297 --> 00:28:42,280
mom's sister wife. 
 
And this is where Janelle gives 

504
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,200
us a little bit of back story 
 
about her mom meeting Kody's dad

505
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,200
in this kind of situation that 

some of us are aware of. 

506
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,600
Because if you've read their 
 
book, and if you've been in the 

507
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,160
Sister Wives universe for a 
 
while, you kind of know the 

508
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,745
sordid history of these people. 
 

509
00:28:57,753 --> 00:29:02,360
They bring it up when they visit
the parents ranch earlier on in 

510
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,480
 the. 
Series. 
 

511
00:29:03,488 --> 00:29:04,680
That's true. 
That's true. 
 

512
00:29:04,688 --> 00:29:07,320
And it's kind of glossed over 
there a bit. 
 

513
00:29:07,328 --> 00:29:10,144
This is like maybe the second 
time they're talking about it. 


514
00:29:10,152 --> 00:29:14,092
And we find out that Janelle's 
mom was worried that Janelle was

515
00:29:14,092 --> 00:29:17,815

 getting involved with a cult. 
Right when she was friends with 

516
00:29:17,815 --> 00:29:20,992
 Kody and Meri. 
Just even friends they weren't 


517
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,100
even courting yet, supposedly. 
So then Janelle's mom Cheryl 
 

518
00:29:26,108 --> 00:29:33,401
with an S comes to meet Kody's 
dad and ends up falling in love.

519
00:29:33,401 --> 00:29:36,640

 
So now we have got Kody's mom's 

520
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,080
sister. 
 
Wife is Janelle's mommy. 

521
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,240
Mommy. 
 
Mommy had to make it creepier 

522
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,960
than it already fucking is 
 
because. 

523
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,760
Thank you for that. 
 
Janelle's mom is Kody's stepmom.

524
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,280
Yes, well, I mean, it is 
 
Christmas. 

525
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,280
They can't just come out and say

 that to us, though. 

526
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,360
No. 
 
But we do get a really cute 

527
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,120
quote from Mama when she's 
 
standing by her car and she says

528
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,600
when in this competition, I'm 
 
not sure I'm the secret weapon, 

529
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:14,200
but I can try I guess. 
 
Oh, Cheryl, you know, this is 

530
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,280
the second time at least that 
 
they've talked about it. 

531
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Another opportunity for them to 
 give us anything real. 

532
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,600
They don't. 
 
It's very whitewashed, very 

533
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,320
glossed over. 
 
It's like OK so we find out that

534
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,840
Janelle's mom fell in love with 
 Kody's dad so. 

535
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,640
But they say it weird so that 
 
doesn't really register they. 

536
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Say it in a way so we don't 
 
connect those dots quite 

537
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,200
clearly, Kody says. 
 
So Cheryl is my mom's sister, 

538
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,920
wife. 
 
Instead of saying so, Cheryl's 

539
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,480
my stepmom. 
 
It's like caramel caramel, 

540
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,440
right? 
 
The other thing that just 

541
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:48,480
crossed crossed my mind, girl, 

girl, is that Jenelle, previous 

542
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,880
to being married to Kody, was 
 
married to Meri's brother. 

543
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,800
Meri comes from cult family. 
 
Jenelle was already married to a

544
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,000
member of the cult. 
 
So even the details they give 

545
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,520
that make you go, oh, well, it 

seems rational and reasonable 

546
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,440
that Jenelle's mom would say, 
 
hey, I don't want you joining a 

547
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,920
cult. 
 
I'm here to we're going to do an

548
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,200
intervention. 
 
We're going to stop you. 

549
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,320
Well, she was already married to

 Meri's brother before she was 

550
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,840
married to Kody, so that it just

 seems weird. 

551
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Whoa. 
 
Because yeah, the timing is 

552
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,040
weird and it's Criss crossing on

 so many directions. 

553
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,240
And it makes even less sense 
 
because I always could 

554
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,800
understand and rationalize that 
 you would want to protect your 

555
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,400
daughter from joining a cult if 
 you were actually concerned. 

556
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,000
Yeah, but your daughter was 
 
already married to one of these 

557
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,280
family members, so it just, it 

feels like all of their stories.

558
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Just lies. 
 
It's hard to believe them. 

559
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Liars, liars, liars. 
 
Meri and Robyn will be making 

560
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920
caramels together. 
 
Oh, excuse me, Caramels together

561
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,160
because Meri doesn't even have a

 kitchen, which of course she 

562
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,880
lives in a rental home with a 
 
kitchen and Robyn has a kitchen,

563
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,680
so this is just bullshit. 
 
I'm not sure if this entire 

564
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,961
thing was set up by production. 
 

565
00:32:05,969 --> 00:32:07,830
I don't know. 
I don't know why Meri and Robyn 

566
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:09,300
 had to work together on this, 
but. 
 

567
00:32:09,308 --> 00:32:13,294
Well, when Kody announces the 
competition, Robyn is just 
 

568
00:32:13,302 --> 00:32:15,640
beside herself. 
Oh yeah, because Robyn can't 
 

569
00:32:15,648 --> 00:32:18,525
microwave popcorn, so. 
Yeah, Robyn literally can't even

570
00:32:18,525 --> 00:32:23,040

 believe that Kody is serious 
and wants them to do this, and 

571
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,728
she's 
 sitting at the table as 
he talks about a perfect his 

572
00:32:27,728 --> 00:32:32,290
mama's 
 caramels are, and she's
just like, shit in her pants. 
 

573
00:32:32,298 --> 00:32:37,005
Yeah, I think that's why she was
like, oh, Meri, you don't have a

574
00:32:37,005 --> 00:32:39,555

 kitchen, you can use mine. 
Yeah, we can be together. 
 

575
00:32:39,563 --> 00:32:42,365
If you need me to boil water, 
you're going to have to teach me

576
00:32:42,365 --> 00:32:44,543

 how. 
Because then if we win, I get 
 

577
00:32:44,551 --> 00:32:48,380
credit for it, but if we lose, 
it's also a funny story and I 
 

578
00:32:48,388 --> 00:32:51,828
don't have to get credit for it.
Robyn always comes out a winner 

579
00:32:51,828 --> 00:32:53,374
 in Kody's eyes. 
Yeah, no kidding. 
 

580
00:32:53,382 --> 00:32:55,560
Even though she's a loser in 
everybody else's. 
 

581
00:32:55,568 --> 00:32:59,192
Yep, when talking about this 
competition and getting his 
 

582
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,060
wives, you know, pinning his 
wives against each other once 
 

583
00:33:02,068 --> 00:33:04,708
again but through a playful 
activity ha ha lol. 
 

584
00:33:04,716 --> 00:33:09,489
We get a sound bite moment from 
Kody where he says you may be 
 

585
00:33:09,497 --> 00:33:13,370
thinking I'm a misogynist pig 
right now but you don't 
 

586
00:33:13,378 --> 00:33:17,450
understand my genius. 
It's about getting more caramels

587
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:22,362

 and I'm like, my God, is there
anything this man won't say and 

588
00:33:22,362 --> 00:33:25,200
 is there anything TLC won't put
on the show? 
 

589
00:33:25,208 --> 00:33:28,798
Because using women to make you 
candy and manipulating them to 


590
00:33:28,806 --> 00:33:31,816
get more of that candy is 
literally the definition of 
 

591
00:33:31,824 --> 00:33:34,010
having your cake and eating it 
too. 
 

592
00:33:34,018 --> 00:33:37,100
Well, and it's and it's like a 
harmless example in a sense. 
 

593
00:33:37,108 --> 00:33:39,707
I mean, it's literally supposed 
to be a playful competition 
 

594
00:33:39,715 --> 00:33:41,560
thing. 
It's not like, you know, 
 

595
00:33:41,568 --> 00:33:44,280
actually underhanded in nature 
as far as we can see. 
 

596
00:33:44,288 --> 00:33:47,276
And so for him to be saying 
this, it's like, of all the shit

597
00:33:47,276 --> 00:33:49,360

 you've done in this show, this
is what you're going to point 
 

598
00:33:49,368 --> 00:33:51,240
out is that makes you look like 
a misogynist? 
 

599
00:33:51,248 --> 00:33:54,065
I don't think so. 
I think it's a lot of other 
 

600
00:33:54,073 --> 00:33:55,636
things. 
The other thing that I would 
 

601
00:33:55,644 --> 00:33:58,877
like to point out is that Kody 
says that his mom makes the best

602
00:33:58,877 --> 00:34:01,280

 caramels in the world. 
So he's already upping the 
 

603
00:34:01,288 --> 00:34:03,529
stakes. 
Like now you're getting compared

604
00:34:03,529 --> 00:34:08,364

 to my mom and every other 
woman out there knows how little

605
00:34:08,364 --> 00:34:13,000
they 
 ever want to be compared 
to their husband's mom. 
 

606
00:34:13,007 --> 00:34:17,464
Like it's, it's a little weird. 
It's a little Freudian. 
 

607
00:34:17,472 --> 00:34:19,735
One of the benefits of being 
single? 
 

608
00:34:19,744 --> 00:34:24,489
We transitioned to Christine's 
house in the AM and she tells us

609
00:34:24,489 --> 00:34:27,335

 it's the morning of Saint 
Lucia's Day, St. 
 

610
00:34:27,344 --> 00:34:29,000
Lucia's Day. 
Saint Lucia's. 
 

611
00:34:29,007 --> 00:34:32,719
Day, St. 
Lucia's Day, which is a 
 

612
00:34:32,728 --> 00:34:36,496
Scandinavian holiday. 
They do it every year where the 

613
00:34:36,496 --> 00:34:38,630
 oldest daughters make breakfast
for the family. 
 

614
00:34:38,638 --> 00:34:41,592
And I'm putting daughters in 
quotes right now because not 
 

615
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,783
everyone that's going to 
participate is a daughter today.

616
00:34:44,783 --> 00:34:47,159

 
But also, it's a holiday where 

617
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,920
the oldest girl of the family 
 
makes breakfast for the whole 

618
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,360
family, not daughters. 
 
Oh, the oldest. 

619
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,640
So this is a polygamous family, 
 so there's four girls to help. 

620
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:06,120
In a normal, dare I say 
 
Scandinavian family, it would be

621
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:09,800
1 eldest daughter making 
 
breakfast. 

622
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,440
Enslaved. 
 
For who knows how many fucking 

623
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,520
people, 7. 
 
I don't know. 

624
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,000
How many times have you had a 
 
sibling born? 

625
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,680
They're the oldest. 
 
I've never celebrated St. 

626
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,320
Lucia's Day and I've never had, 
 I mean, my family's only half 

627
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,560
Scandinavian. 
 
So we're looking at this from 

628
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,000
like the normal lens. 
 
Normal. 

629
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,668
I say that in quotes as always. 
 

630
00:35:31,676 --> 00:35:35,430
Now they say daughters. 
So they're scooping 4 of them up

631
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:38,375

 because you know, they would 
need that for how many kids they

632
00:35:38,375 --> 00:35:40,336

 have. 
But it's they're manipulating 
 

633
00:35:40,344 --> 00:35:43,680
another holiday for the fun of 
it. 
 

634
00:35:43,688 --> 00:35:46,554
But also I. 
Mean they're just Co opting it 


635
00:35:46,562 --> 00:35:47,778
in a way that works for their 
family. 
 

636
00:35:47,786 --> 00:35:51,500
I mean is it so bad other than 
the like enslaving your? 
 

637
00:35:51,508 --> 00:35:54,990
Daughter sexism times 4. 
I would argue it's 1000 times 
 

638
00:35:54,998 --> 00:35:57,231
worse 4. 
Times the sexism. 
 

639
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,788
You get 4 times the stint in gel
or hell. 
 

640
00:36:02,796 --> 00:36:06,900
OK they seriously why? 
Because. 
 

641
00:36:06,908 --> 00:36:10,020
They're traditional darling. 
Well, we come from this quote 
 

642
00:36:10,028 --> 00:36:12,870
from Kody. 
Don't call me a sexist pig to 
 

643
00:36:12,878 --> 00:36:15,200
this. 
And either the producers want 
 

644
00:36:15,208 --> 00:36:19,658
them to look bad, or they don't 
realize that they just naturally

645
00:36:19,658 --> 00:36:21,860

 look bad. 
I think it was the latter and 
 

646
00:36:21,868 --> 00:36:25,318
the producers just lucked out. 
Honey, were you ever forced to 


647
00:36:25,326 --> 00:36:26,738
make breakfast on Saint Lucia's 
Day? 
 

648
00:36:26,746 --> 00:36:29,441
It sounds like you are harboring
some previous resentments. 
 

649
00:36:29,449 --> 00:36:33,960
No, thank God, I'd never heard 
of this holiday until this 
 

650
00:36:33,968 --> 00:36:36,099
episode. 
And that's why I slammed the 
 

651
00:36:36,107 --> 00:36:41,160
pause button so hard with my big
toe that it just, I don't know 


652
00:36:41,168 --> 00:36:43,720
it. 
Flew across the. 
 

653
00:36:43,728 --> 00:36:46,172
Room. 
That remote just shot across the

654
00:36:46,172 --> 00:36:47,812

 room. 
You know, hopefully you'll have 

655
00:36:47,812 --> 00:36:50,184
 an opportunity to move on soon,
maybe through some therapy. 
 

656
00:36:50,192 --> 00:36:52,805
I can understand this is one of 
those things where it's like, 
 

657
00:36:52,813 --> 00:36:54,870
oh, it used to be fun. 
We don't do it anymore. 
 

658
00:36:54,878 --> 00:36:58,490
The oldest in the family, boy or
girl, has to make breakfast for 

659
00:36:58,490 --> 00:37:01,730
 the family. 
But I can't believe that anybody

660
00:37:01,730 --> 00:37:05,636

 would still be celebrating 
this and respect their 

661
00:37:05,636 --> 00:37:08,080
daughter's 
 mother's, aunts, 
whatever. 

662
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,320
Right. 
 
Well. 

663
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,680
So we find out that there are 
 
actually going to be four 

664
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,640
daughters joining. 
 
We kind of assumed they might 

665
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,760
include Robyn's eldest, but they

 do come clean out and say it. 

666
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,815
Aspen, Maddie, Leon and Aurora. 
 

667
00:37:23,823 --> 00:37:28,040
All four get to make breakfast 
like it's a gift. 
 

668
00:37:28,048 --> 00:37:31,450
They don't have to. 
They get to the gift to the 
 

669
00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:32,105
family. 
Labor. 
 

670
00:37:32,113 --> 00:37:36,900
So the four of them are getting 
to make breakfast and they're 
 

671
00:37:36,908 --> 00:37:40,205
going to make crepes. 
Tasty. 
 

672
00:37:40,213 --> 00:37:46,358
And the only way you could ever 
serve a crepe breakfast to an 
 

673
00:37:46,366 --> 00:37:51,210
entire family is buffet style 
with trays. 
 

674
00:37:51,218 --> 00:37:56,932
And this is where shit gets 
real, real quick. 
 

675
00:37:56,940 --> 00:37:59,400
Oh yeah, passions heat. 
Crepes. 
 

676
00:37:59,408 --> 00:38:00,770
Burn. 
Well, actually there was a lack 

677
00:38:00,770 --> 00:38:01,852
 of heat. 
And no, there was heat. 
 

678
00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:03,840
It was. 
Too, there was direct an excess 

679
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,960
 of heat. 
Thank you. 
 

680
00:38:04,968 --> 00:38:08,140
Thank you. 
So what are these? 
 

681
00:38:08,148 --> 00:38:10,090
They're pans, the aluminum 
disposable. 
 

682
00:38:10,098 --> 00:38:14,200
So there's a name for it, I 
can't remember the name, but 
 

683
00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:16,030
essentially there's two aluminum
pans. 
 

684
00:38:16,038 --> 00:38:21,280
The lowest has some water in it,
the top has the food in it, and 

685
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,248
 then there's like a candle, 
like a little kerosene candle 
 

686
00:38:24,256 --> 00:38:26,360
underneath. 
So it heats the water, which 
 

687
00:38:26,368 --> 00:38:29,708
spreads the heat to heat the 
entire piece of food or whatever

688
00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:33,775

 is in there. 
Yeah, this is one of those 
 

689
00:38:33,783 --> 00:38:36,714
situations where you can't help 
it. 
 

690
00:38:36,722 --> 00:38:38,400
Someone's just going to look 
bad. 
 

691
00:38:38,408 --> 00:38:43,012
Maddie has been just ragging on 
everyone. 
 

692
00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:46,615
Hey, there needs to be water 
between the two layers or the 
 

693
00:38:46,623 --> 00:38:51,000
food is going to burn. 
I remember Christine telling me 

694
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,586
 that, and every single other 
daughter, Aspen, Leon, Aurora is

695
00:38:55,586 --> 00:38:59,192

 kind of fighting her, like we 
don't remember hearing water. 
 

696
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,700
So they start lighting the 
things and then of course they 


697
00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:09,280
start to smell something burn 
and Maddie gets to shove it in 


698
00:39:09,288 --> 00:39:14,660
everyone's face. 
Fair enough, but who is the one 

699
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:21,440
 that actually lit the burners 
and decided that their decision,

700
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,140

 their highway. 
Get off it with or without water

701
00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:27,680

 terms. 
Is it Aurora? 
 

702
00:39:27,688 --> 00:39:30,720
Nope. 
Is it Aspen? 
 

703
00:39:30,728 --> 00:39:34,820
Nope. 
Oh, is it the Ghost of Christmas

704
00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:37,341

 Present? 
It is Leon. 
 

705
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:40,902
Oh, it's Leon. 
And they pointed out that, hey, 

706
00:39:40,902 --> 00:39:45,485
 it was Leon that made the 
decision, and Leon just can't 
 

707
00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:50,041
handle that and yells I did it, 
I'm sorry guys. 
 

708
00:39:50,049 --> 00:39:56,162
And storms off. 
Thank you for the storm off 
 

709
00:39:56,170 --> 00:39:59,338
sound effects that sound like a 
horse trotting away. 
 

710
00:39:59,346 --> 00:40:02,854
Coconuts tapping together, Monty
Python style. 
 

711
00:40:02,862 --> 00:40:05,780
Definitely slammed down some 
shit on the stove and then 
 

712
00:40:05,788 --> 00:40:08,255
turned around and booked it out 
of that room. 
 

713
00:40:08,263 --> 00:40:11,408
Like my attitude is here. 
Listen to it. 
 

714
00:40:11,416 --> 00:40:13,889
I'm pissed. 
I just don't even know how to 
 

715
00:40:13,897 --> 00:40:15,588
describe this scene because it's
so ridiculous. 
 

716
00:40:15,596 --> 00:40:18,732
Because they're like fighting 
over these weird giant ways that

717
00:40:18,732 --> 00:40:22,038

 you serve breakfast that like 
not many people know what the 
 

718
00:40:22,046 --> 00:40:25,430
fuck this is and they think that
it happens in cafeterias, but 
 

719
00:40:25,438 --> 00:40:30,552
this is like, this is a family 
cafeteria and I can't even think

720
00:40:30,552 --> 00:40:33,400

 remember what they're named 
because. 
 

721
00:40:33,408 --> 00:40:36,650
Warming trays. 
But there there's a name for 
 

722
00:40:36,658 --> 00:40:38,690
them, I. 
Just so it's just like so funny 

723
00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:41,520
 because we get this weird, 
absurd way that they have to 
 

724
00:40:41,528 --> 00:40:44,152
serve breakfast because their 
family is so big. 
 

725
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,722
And then they're fighting over 
how to serve this like weird 
 

726
00:40:48,730 --> 00:40:53,102
breakfast that it's like Leon is
just all of a sudden they're 
 

727
00:40:53,110 --> 00:40:55,263
making a scene Much Ado about 
nothing. 
 

728
00:40:55,271 --> 00:40:59,708
They're trying to get some sort 
of heated rivalry going on 
 

729
00:40:59,716 --> 00:41:03,440
because there's literally no 
fucking reason to film this. 
 

730
00:41:03,448 --> 00:41:06,840
Well, Maddie was kind of jabbing
at everybody. 
 

731
00:41:06,848 --> 00:41:09,690
Maddie actually took out one of 
those kerosene things and was 
 

732
00:41:09,698 --> 00:41:11,830
reading the instructions, being 
like, you're supposed to like 
 

733
00:41:11,838 --> 00:41:14,400
this when you do the thing. 
Like just reiterating that she 


734
00:41:14,408 --> 00:41:16,802
was correct from the beginning 
and she was totally having one 


735
00:41:16,810 --> 00:41:18,661
of those moments of like, well, 
who was right? 
 

736
00:41:18,669 --> 00:41:20,190
Who was right? 
I guess it was me. 
 

737
00:41:20,198 --> 00:41:24,080
I guess y'all were wrong and 
Leon could not handle it. 
 

738
00:41:24,088 --> 00:41:29,264
But do Meri and Kody unloading 
some of someone's belongings 
 

739
00:41:29,272 --> 00:41:32,560
into someone's home, not into 
Meri's home because she doesn't 

740
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,880
 have her home friendly 
reminder. 

741
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,720
And Meri is talking Kody's ear 

off about how Leon is upset. 

742
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,080
Oh, Leon's upset. 
 
Imagine that. 

743
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,760
So exciting and new. 
 
But sometimes Leon's not upset. 

744
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,280
It's, you know, hot and cold up 
 and down here and there all 

745
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,040
around the square. 
 
And Kody says, well, sounds like

746
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,880
you, Meri. 
 
Sounds like you, Meri. 

747
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,240
It feels like it's more about 
 
you, Meri, and how you're 

748
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,880
reacting to Leon. 
 
And he tells Meri I'll handle 

749
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600
it. 
 
I can handle this. 

750
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,280
It's a little crummy that he's 

like, oh, you're making this 

751
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,840
about you instead of about your 
 child. 

752
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,040
Yeah, it has vibes of a little 

like mansplaining or a little 

753
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,800
like, let me tell you about how 
 it is. 

754
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,000
But I hate to say it, I kind of 
 agree with him. 

755
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,520
It's like, Meri, you just seem 

to be coddling when it's not 

756
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,720
necessary and making things 
 
worse in many ways, withholding 

757
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:31,360
things and kind of ushering Leon

 along even in her statements. 

758
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,800
Well, Leon's upset sometimes and

 sometimes not. 

759
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,960
And I don't get it. 
 
It's like, Meri, you don't get 

760
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,680
anything. 
 
You just pretend like you don't 

761
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,760
understand these things when 
 
really you should very clearly 

762
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,360
understand what's going on. 
 
But there are two peas in a pod,

763
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,760
as we said in our last episode 

of this pod. 

764
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,680
I have a hard time with this 
 
because it sounds like Kody's 

765
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,560
like, oh, you're just too 
 
emotional. 

766
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,560
Like God forbid you a period the

 bears will come. 

767
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,000
And then he sounds also like 
 
he's just being realistic and 

768
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,956
like, hey, you're emotional too.

 

769
00:42:59,964 --> 00:43:04,361
Quit making about yourself 
because it's about our child and

770
00:43:04,361 --> 00:43:08,104

 you're both emotional. 
Yeah, and then Meri says some 
 

771
00:43:08,112 --> 00:43:12,820
weird shit, talking about how 
she understands now that she has

772
00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:14,762

 a teenager. 
She's had a teenager for a 
 

773
00:43:14,770 --> 00:43:17,970
couple years, and now she knows 
what it must have been like for 

774
00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:25,606
 Kody to deal with her. 
I see me in them so much. 
 

775
00:43:25,614 --> 00:43:30,550
Oh God. 
Meri just goes on and on about 


776
00:43:30,558 --> 00:43:33,770
how she's been trying to do 
better, trying to be better 
 

777
00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:37,335
because of how hard it is to 
deal with Leon and realizing it 

778
00:43:37,335 --> 00:43:42,532
 must be just as hard to deal 
with her and kind of talks about

779
00:43:42,532 --> 00:43:46,270

 it for a bit. 
And then there's a 2 camera 
 

780
00:43:46,278 --> 00:43:48,520
where Kody says, baby, Meri's 
being dramatic. 
 

781
00:43:48,528 --> 00:43:52,537
You just don't know. 
And this is The thing is like, 


782
00:43:52,545 --> 00:43:55,141
you just don't know is Meri. 
Meri is dramatic. 
 

783
00:43:55,149 --> 00:43:57,400
She's always upset. 
She's always all over the place.

784
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,720

 
And so now when she's talking 

785
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:02,000
about her child who's always 
 
upset and all over the place is 

786
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,240
the story that you're both are 

all upset and all over the 

787
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:07,720
place. 
 
What's going on here? 

788
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,791
And Kody's just trying to be one

 of the leaders of the 

789
00:44:10,791 --> 00:44:13,574
manosphere and come in and say, 
listen, I'm 
 going to lay down 

790
00:44:13,574 --> 00:44:16,148
the law. 
I'm going to tell Leon what 
 

791
00:44:16,156 --> 00:44:18,965
needs to happen. 
I'm going to give Leon some life

792
00:44:18,965 --> 00:44:20,829

 advice. 
I'm going to all talk to Leon. 


793
00:44:20,837 --> 00:44:24,132
Let me deal with it. 
So then Kody and Leon are 
 

794
00:44:24,140 --> 00:44:27,729
sitting inside in the family 
room or the living room or the 


795
00:44:27,737 --> 00:44:29,646
My Sister wife's closet world 
headquarters. 
 

796
00:44:29,654 --> 00:44:34,404
You never know where they are. 
And oh, he's got some things to 

797
00:44:34,404 --> 00:44:38,344
 say to Leon. 
First, Kody starts out by just a

798
00:44:38,344 --> 00:44:44,274

 simple You feeling OK? 
Leon's feeling great, can't you 

799
00:44:44,274 --> 00:44:47,020
 tell? 
This is not gentle parenting, 
 

800
00:44:47,028 --> 00:44:51,085
OK? 
This is not understanding how to

801
00:44:51,085 --> 00:44:55,136

 talk to your own child. 
Yeah, yeah, you. 
 

802
00:44:55,144 --> 00:45:00,064
Feeling OK? 
Do you get upset when I ask you 

803
00:45:00,064 --> 00:45:01,855
 that question? 
Are you feeling OK, Kimber? 
 

804
00:45:01,863 --> 00:45:03,260
Are you mad at? 
Me are you? 
 

805
00:45:03,268 --> 00:45:06,326
Oh, I I never ask people that. 
I don't want to know the answer.

806
00:45:06,326 --> 00:45:06,840

 
Oh boy. 

807
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,480
Kody also tells Leon. 
 
Well after. 

808
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,200
You know that ice breaker? 
 
Yeah, best ice breaker ever. 

809
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,520
Tony just dives right in and 
 
tells Leon. 

810
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,560
When you're mad about what's 
 
going on in your life, you still

811
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,400
need to be a sweet person. 
 
A sweet person. 

812
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,840
You need to not wear your 
 
struggles on your sleeve so 

813
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,880
much. 
 
Your mom is dealing with the 

814
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,840
same thing. 
 
You'll have a better life and a 

815
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,800
lot more friends if you have a 

chipper disposition. 

816
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:44,080
Value into what you do have. 
 
Yeah, yeah. 

817
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,920
AKA, not what you don't have, 
 
not the house that you've been 

818
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,920
staring at longingly across the 
 street. 

819
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,637
That you've been yelling at from

 a minivan saying you're going 

820
00:45:52,637 --> 00:45:54,320
to slap. 
 
Why not the? 

821
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,880
Underwriter across the face, 
 
like you've been a spoiled brat,

822
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,160
which is what we have been 
 
saying on this podcast for many 

823
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,760
episodes. 
 
And it's unlikable. 

824
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,960
And do I think you have to be a 
 sweet person? 

825
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,680
No. 
 
Do I think you always have to 

826
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,480
have a chipper disposition? 
 
No. 

827
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,400
But do I think Leon needs to 
 
hear this? 

828
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,280
Fucking yes. 
 
Like it's probably just one of 

829
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,320
those moments in life where it's

 like, yo, everyone's tired of 

830
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,800
walking on egg shells around you

 and touching you with kid 

831
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,680
gloves. 
 
Everyone's kind of over it and 

832
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,120
you're going to. 
 
You're alienating people. 

833
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,800
Another thing to point out with 
 the word that he uses being 

834
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,680
sweet, you may be struggling, 
 
but you really need to be sweet 

835
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:43,280
with everybody else. 
 
It's a very odd word to pick and

836
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,000
I don't think a lot of us would 
 use that word in a similar 

837
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,520
situation. 
 
I think if I was saying that, 

838
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,720
I'd be like, you may be 
 
struggling, but you really need 

839
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,502
to be kind with everybody else. 
 

840
00:46:54,510 --> 00:46:58,980
I don't know another parent that
would just automatically go to. 

841
00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:00,680
 
You need to be sweet. 

842
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,240
Right. 
 
With everybody else, it's just a

843
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:08,597
very strange word to jump to out

 of all of the descriptive 

844
00:47:08,597 --> 00:47:11,948
words and the English language. 
 

845
00:47:11,956 --> 00:47:16,412
So yeah, he's basically Leon. 
Keep sweet. 
 

846
00:47:16,420 --> 00:47:18,755
Yep, little Warren Jeffs vibes 
in there. 
 

847
00:47:18,763 --> 00:47:20,646
It doesn't matter what you're 
going through. 
 

848
00:47:20,654 --> 00:47:22,380
And it's obviously a spectrum, 
right? 
 

849
00:47:22,388 --> 00:47:24,424
If you're upset about every 
single thing and everything's 
 

850
00:47:24,432 --> 00:47:27,104
driving you nuts, you know, take
a moment and evaluate. 
 

851
00:47:27,112 --> 00:47:29,680
And he literally suggests to 
Leon, if you're getting upset, 


852
00:47:29,688 --> 00:47:32,472
it might be best to just remove 
yourself for a few minutes and 


853
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,108
go do your thing. 
Regather your thoughts. 
 

854
00:47:34,116 --> 00:47:39,185
Come back when you're a little 
more able to go with the flow. 


855
00:47:39,193 --> 00:47:43,220
Have a more chipper disposition.
Think objectively. 
 

856
00:47:43,228 --> 00:47:45,749
Yeah, which? 
We know they're great at. 
 

857
00:47:45,757 --> 00:47:49,290
So many better ways to phrase it
than keeping sweet and having a 

858
00:47:49,290 --> 00:47:53,481
 chipper disposition. 
I think the suggestion and the 


859
00:47:53,489 --> 00:47:56,855
conversation itself holistically
probably wasn't bad in the sense

860
00:47:56,855 --> 00:47:59,544

 that, like I said, Leon needs 
to fucking hear this. 
 

861
00:47:59,552 --> 00:48:01,410
I probably needed to hear it at 
some point. 
 

862
00:48:01,418 --> 00:48:03,206
I'm sure my dad was like, you 
know what? 
 

863
00:48:03,214 --> 00:48:05,470
If you were just a little nicer,
people would be a little nicer 


864
00:48:05,478 --> 00:48:07,040
to you. 
Like it's something you some 
 

865
00:48:07,048 --> 00:48:10,620
people are probably just going 
to have to hear in life. 
 

866
00:48:10,628 --> 00:48:15,104
Kinder to them, softer to them, 
nicer to them, sweet. 
 

867
00:48:15,112 --> 00:48:20,175
And he uses sweet so much. 
They all do in, but particularly

868
00:48:20,175 --> 00:48:22,600

 Kody in their book, Becoming 
Sister Wives. 
 

869
00:48:22,608 --> 00:48:27,320
So many uses of the word sweet. 
It was sweet and she was sweet 


870
00:48:27,328 --> 00:48:29,170
and everything was sweet. 
It's like, can't you find a 
 

871
00:48:29,178 --> 00:48:30,360
different word? 
It's so obnoxious. 
 

872
00:48:30,368 --> 00:48:33,740
I think that I've only described
a strawberry that way before. 
 

873
00:48:33,748 --> 00:48:35,760
Right. 
Like I would assume I would 
 

874
00:48:35,768 --> 00:48:39,435
describe food as sweet. 
Or if someone did something 
 

875
00:48:39,443 --> 00:48:41,920
really really nice for me, I 
might be like that's so sweet, 


876
00:48:41,928 --> 00:48:43,920
but I wouldn't suggest they be 
sweet. 
 

877
00:48:43,928 --> 00:48:47,792
Very strange. 
No, it's a very odd use of the 


878
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,070
word. 
Very culty. 
 

879
00:48:49,078 --> 00:48:53,140
Well, Speaking of culty, we're 
going to go back to the Brown 
 

880
00:48:53,148 --> 00:48:58,458
family called a Sack Woo. 
And it's Christmas morning on 
 

881
00:48:58,466 --> 00:49:02,999
January 2nd. 
Meri is hoping that since it's a

882
00:49:02,999 --> 00:49:06,615

 weekday, January 2nd, they 
might get their Christmas 

883
00:49:06,615 --> 00:49:13,542
miracle and 
 get into the home.
And Meri's been sitting by that 

884
00:49:13,542 --> 00:49:17,760
 pager, I mean phone, waiting 
for that call. 
 

885
00:49:17,768 --> 00:49:20,360
Technically, it's a business 
day, she says. 
 

886
00:49:20,368 --> 00:49:23,340
Technically, it's a business 
day, and everyone's gathering at

887
00:49:23,340 --> 00:49:26,176

 Janelle's family room for the 
Christmas celebration. 
 

888
00:49:26,184 --> 00:49:29,761
There's children, there's 
adults, there's presents, 
 

889
00:49:29,769 --> 00:49:33,616
presents, presents, presents. 
And Kody tells us that they're a

890
00:49:33,616 --> 00:49:37,022

 family of 22. 
So if everyone gets 3 gifts, 
 

891
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:39,852
that's 66 presents to be all 
around. 
 

892
00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:42,823
And yeah, there's a lot of 
presents. 
 

893
00:49:42,831 --> 00:49:45,324
It didn't seem crazy to me 
because they are a large family.

894
00:49:45,324 --> 00:49:46,400

 
It just looked like a lot of 

895
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,360
presents for a lot of people. 
 
I don't really get if that was 

896
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,240
directed by a producer director 
 like prompted because it didn't

897
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,680
seem strange to me. 
 
I don't know. 

898
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,520
It does look insane because they

 take the shot from overhead, 

899
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,720
like from the balcony. 
 
Yeah. 

900
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,720
So from like the top shot, it 
 
looks like a ton of presents. 

901
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:09,680
It looks like Whoville people 
 
and the presents and the big 

902
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,160
tree and yeah. 
 
And truly scrumptious is little 

903
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,960
Cindy Lou. 
 
Little Cindy Lou Who with her 

904
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,520
little whisper hair, our 
 
favorite of them all. 

905
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,320
The kids are all opening their 

gifts. 

906
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,560
There's a lot of excitement. 
 
I didn't see a lot of people 

907
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,920
eating crepes, so unfortunately 
 we never saw where. 

908
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,600
Saint Lucia's Day. 
 
Oh, I guess that must have been 

909
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,280
a different day. 
 
I don't know, I'm confused. 

910
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,084
It's so hard with Joseph Smith's

 birthday right before 

911
00:50:34,084 --> 00:50:35,629
Christmas and Saint Lucia's Day.

 

912
00:50:35,637 --> 00:50:36,867
There's so many. 
Hanukkah. 
 

913
00:50:36,875 --> 00:50:40,100
And Hanukkah that they couldn't 
even fit that in this year. 
 

914
00:50:40,108 --> 00:50:43,586
There was just so many holidays 
and it's tough to keep track. 
 

915
00:50:43,594 --> 00:50:47,256
One person that they show 
getting a gift that I thought 
 

916
00:50:47,264 --> 00:50:51,920
was adorable was Gabe. 
And there is like a towel or a 


917
00:50:51,928 --> 00:50:54,842
blanket over something. 
And the other kids say we've 
 

918
00:50:54,850 --> 00:50:57,640
going to we're going to reveal 
your gift, Gabe. 
 

919
00:50:57,648 --> 00:51:01,504
And they pull it up and it's a 
brand new bike. 
 

920
00:51:01,512 --> 00:51:03,420
And Gabe's reaction's really 
cute. 
 

921
00:51:03,428 --> 00:51:06,470
And it was just cute how the 
siblings got in on hiding the 
 

922
00:51:06,478 --> 00:51:09,816
bike without wrapping it and 
pulling the cloth away. 
 

923
00:51:09,824 --> 00:51:13,104
Yeah. 
Yeah, it was a cute moment. 
 

924
00:51:13,112 --> 00:51:16,750
And then America's favorite 
sister, wife Robyn, tells Kody 


925
00:51:16,758 --> 00:51:20,984
it's his turn to open a present 
from her. 
 

926
00:51:20,992 --> 00:51:25,396
The Christmas spirit is inside 
of her and just leaking out of 


927
00:51:25,404 --> 00:51:29,360
every pore. 
He opens the gift and he gets 
 

928
00:51:29,368 --> 00:51:33,577
choked up. 
He takes a pause and he pulls 
 

929
00:51:33,585 --> 00:51:37,010
out a piece of paper, more 
pieces of paper for gifts. 
 

930
00:51:37,018 --> 00:51:41,580
But this piece of paper is 
actually a Social Security card 

931
00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:47,300
 that says Robyn Alice Brown. 
He announces to everyone the 
 

932
00:51:47,308 --> 00:51:49,184
gift. 
It's a Social Security card. 
 

933
00:51:49,192 --> 00:51:53,515
She's changed her name and here 
is a certificate saying she did 

934
00:51:53,515 --> 00:51:55,864
 so. 
And it's so great because they 


935
00:51:55,872 --> 00:52:00,742
do a pan to Logan and he's slow 
clapping and he's not doing it, 

936
00:52:00,742 --> 00:52:05,250
 you know, not a sarcastic, you 
know, asshole thing, but 
 

937
00:52:05,258 --> 00:52:07,475
literally just like, yay, slow 
clap. 
 

938
00:52:07,483 --> 00:52:10,069
And I'm like, Oh my God, so 
good. 
 

939
00:52:10,077 --> 00:52:13,304
And of course, Kody and Robyn 
hug and they kiss. 
 

940
00:52:13,312 --> 00:52:16,580
They do a little kiss in front 
of the other sister wives 
 

941
00:52:16,588 --> 00:52:20,020
breaking the rules. 
And it was quite a moment, 
 

942
00:52:20,028 --> 00:52:22,989
Christine yells from the side. 
That's so cool. 
 

943
00:52:22,997 --> 00:52:27,168
And I went, why? 
Why is everything cool? 
 

944
00:52:27,176 --> 00:52:30,627
Why is everything real and cool?
It's so cool. 
 

945
00:52:30,635 --> 00:52:32,980
It's so real, but it's cool. 
Like why? 
 

946
00:52:32,988 --> 00:52:38,560
They have a little tidbit of 
Kody talking and he says it's 
 

947
00:52:38,568 --> 00:52:41,721
probably the biggest surprise 
I've ever had. 
 

948
00:52:41,729 --> 00:52:45,808
It shocked and awed me, shocked 
and on me. 
 

949
00:52:45,816 --> 00:52:48,274
It takes a lot to shock and awe 
Kody. 
 

950
00:52:48,282 --> 00:52:51,602
He's he's hard to impress. 
And then, like, we cannot just 


951
00:52:51,610 --> 00:52:54,879
gloss over the fact that he 
holds the Social Security card 


952
00:52:54,887 --> 00:52:58,200
up for all to see, including the
camera men. 
 

953
00:52:58,208 --> 00:53:03,072
Yeah, I didn't catch if it was 
blurred or not. 
 

954
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,020
It'd be fun to go freeze frame 
it and capture that number and 


955
00:53:06,028 --> 00:53:08,240
get her a fifth last name. 
Let's just. 
 

956
00:53:08,248 --> 00:53:11,116
See this maybe? 
Like brand new please. 
 

957
00:53:11,124 --> 00:53:15,520
Report yourself to the FBI's 
Most Wanted list for most debt 


958
00:53:15,528 --> 00:53:18,642
in America. 
That's what it would come up as 

959
00:53:18,642 --> 00:53:20,840
 if you tried to steal her 
Social Security number. 
 

960
00:53:20,848 --> 00:53:24,360
It's a little odd. 
They've shown large checks to 
 

961
00:53:24,368 --> 00:53:27,095
the camera, and obviously the 
cameras blurred them. 
 

962
00:53:27,103 --> 00:53:30,630
Now they're showing a Social 
Security card and it's like you 

963
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:32,206
 tell motherfuckers. 
Stop. 
 

964
00:53:32,214 --> 00:53:35,510
Stop showing your PPI or your 
PII or whatever. 
 

965
00:53:35,518 --> 00:53:37,640
Trying to lose your own 
identities. 
 

966
00:53:37,648 --> 00:53:41,480
We know it's been a rough go, 
OK, we know you've been 
 

967
00:53:41,488 --> 00:53:46,035
separated for two plus years. 
But please, nobody wants to be 


968
00:53:46,043 --> 00:53:47,958
you. 
Don't forget they had to go to 


969
00:53:47,966 --> 00:53:49,427
Nevada in the middle of the 
night. 
 

970
00:53:49,435 --> 00:53:52,918
They have struggled and they 
have had so many ups and downs 


971
00:53:52,926 --> 00:53:56,309
and now here's a check and 
here's my social. 
 

972
00:53:56,317 --> 00:54:00,380
Christ Almighty, for real. 
As we know, Kimber gladly 
 

973
00:54:00,388 --> 00:54:05,348
accepts that information. 
Only if you fall in love with me

974
00:54:05,348 --> 00:54:08,820

 and give it willingly. 
And then they talk about the 
 

975
00:54:08,828 --> 00:54:12,336
importance of all of them having
the same last name, even if 
 

976
00:54:12,344 --> 00:54:15,882
they're not legally married. 
You know, it's to signify that 


977
00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:18,400
you are a kept woman, according 
to Kody. 
 

978
00:54:18,408 --> 00:54:22,840
A kept woman Christian says that
most women in plural marriage do

979
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,300

 not change their last name, 
but that was something that was 

980
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:31,280
 super important to her because 
of her children and having the 


981
00:54:31,288 --> 00:54:34,982
same last name as their father. 
Yeah, not our first time talking

982
00:54:34,982 --> 00:54:37,178

 about last names in the last 
couple episodes. 
 

983
00:54:37,186 --> 00:54:43,182
It seems to be a thing, right? 
Now Robyn Shit Stain Brown is 
 

984
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:50,622
now dubbed Robyn Alice Brown of 
the Brown family, fourth wife of

985
00:54:50,622 --> 00:54:55,950

 the Kody Brown IW Robyn Alice 
Brown of Brown. 
 

986
00:54:55,958 --> 00:54:59,298
Queen of the Brown family 
called. 
 

987
00:54:59,306 --> 00:55:03,330
Us I'm supposed to add I'm 
supposed to add Queen of the 
 

988
00:55:03,338 --> 00:55:06,092
Browns is. 
There a gas leak in here? 
 

989
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:07,620
Are we at Robyn's house? 
I'm. 
 

990
00:55:07,628 --> 00:55:10,480
Just acting out what I'm. 
Are we victims of her Munchausen

991
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,400

 by proxy? 
Kody says that this is a 
 

992
00:55:14,408 --> 00:55:18,140
covenant between them, between 
Kody, the wives, and God. 
 

993
00:55:18,148 --> 00:55:21,300
So, you know, even though 
they're not legally married, 
 

994
00:55:21,308 --> 00:55:25,234
them taking his last name as a 
covenant between him, them and 


995
00:55:25,242 --> 00:55:26,980
God. 
How touching. 
 

996
00:55:26,988 --> 00:55:31,380
We see all of their gorgeous 
wedding photos again, and the 
 

997
00:55:31,388 --> 00:55:35,450
waterfall flowers, and Meri's 
wedding and the little workout 


998
00:55:35,458 --> 00:55:39,974
headband with the flowers on it.
But mostly the waterfall of 
 

999
00:55:39,982 --> 00:55:42,140
flowers. 
Got to have the waterfall 
 

1000
00:55:42,148 --> 00:55:43,681
flowers. 
Was that in the gymnasium where 

1001
00:55:43,681 --> 00:55:46,438
 they got married? 
Yes, the gymnasium and then over

1002
00:55:46,438 --> 00:55:50,900

 all of their what beautiful 
wedding photos, Kody says. 
 

1003
00:55:50,908 --> 00:55:54,292
It's a biblically sanctified 
marriage. 
 

1004
00:55:54,300 --> 00:56:00,840
It was a big dull to me, a big 
dill. 
 

1005
00:56:00,848 --> 00:56:04,224
So you know, Robyn changing her 
name and giving him a Social 
 

1006
00:56:04,232 --> 00:56:07,045
Security card on Christmas 
morning was a big dill. 
 

1007
00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:10,468
Very touching, very moving. 
The baby Jesus wept. 
 

1008
00:56:10,476 --> 00:56:14,450
But fuck all the work that these
women have done to get these 
 

1009
00:56:14,458 --> 00:56:18,909
homes because you know what? 
These homes were a gift from 
 

1010
00:56:18,917 --> 00:56:20,980
God. 
Yes, Kody let's the whole family

1011
00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:23,375

 know this. 
He stands up after their gifts 


1012
00:56:23,383 --> 00:56:26,376
and declares, well, you know, 
has to talk to the family like 


1013
00:56:26,384 --> 00:56:28,350
he always does. 
Being the patriarch, being the 


1014
00:56:28,358 --> 00:56:30,383
man from the manosphere, I get 
it. 
 

1015
00:56:30,391 --> 00:56:34,780
This is the biggest gift our 
family could ever receive 
 

1016
00:56:34,788 --> 00:56:38,656
outside of our relationships 
with each other and of course 
 

1017
00:56:38,664 --> 00:56:43,356
the testimony from God. 
Yeah, he's basically telling his

1018
00:56:43,356 --> 00:56:45,416

 kids to be thankful. 
He says. 
 

1019
00:56:45,424 --> 00:56:48,380
Always appreciate it. 
Always be thankful for it. 
 

1020
00:56:48,388 --> 00:56:50,972
Like, do not forget where this 
comes from. 
 

1021
00:56:50,980 --> 00:56:54,890
Do not forget your roots. 
This is the follow up from when 

1022
00:56:54,890 --> 00:56:57,904
 he started that last episode. 
He said you should all respect 


1023
00:56:57,912 --> 00:56:59,840
us because we're going to 
provide you housing. 
 

1024
00:56:59,848 --> 00:57:01,772
And so now he's just continuing 
the story. 
 

1025
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:04,640
You know, respect the homes, 
respect us that only the 
 

1026
00:57:04,648 --> 00:57:07,816
testimony from God should be 
more than this. 
 

1027
00:57:07,824 --> 00:57:12,122
Very moving. 
So after opening the 666 gifts 


1028
00:57:12,130 --> 00:57:17,008
from the devil for the entire 
family, they're all exhausted. 


1029
00:57:17,016 --> 00:57:22,685
Nobody wants to do anything, but
everyone is going to have to 
 

1030
00:57:22,693 --> 00:57:27,910
stay up for this caramel 
competition quote. 
 

1031
00:57:27,918 --> 00:57:42,324
As a man getting caramels from 
all of his four wives because he

1032
00:57:42,324 --> 00:57:47,115

 is a genius, he devised this 
plan. 
 

1033
00:57:47,123 --> 00:57:55,160
Wow, so make sure you add that 
to the Sister Wives playlist on 

1034
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,555
 Spotify. 
Chris, Eye of the Tiger. 
 

1035
00:57:57,563 --> 00:58:03,250
We hear how each of their 
journeys has been going in this 

1036
00:58:03,250 --> 00:58:07,685
 Carmel River. 
Christine's have all burned. 
 

1037
00:58:07,693 --> 00:58:13,500
Christine has borrowed so much 
Karo syrup from Janelle for her 

1038
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:18,060
 burnt batches that Janelle has 
noticed the syrepa missing. 
 

1039
00:58:18,068 --> 00:58:21,780
Christine's first two batches 
were destroyed by her own 
 

1040
00:58:21,788 --> 00:58:24,856
incompetence, so she's on her 
third batch making these 
 

1041
00:58:24,864 --> 00:58:26,465
caramel. 
She's going to make these 
 

1042
00:58:26,473 --> 00:58:30,740
caramel so good. 
Janelle's cooking with her mom, 

1043
00:58:30,740 --> 00:58:34,480
 and you know, that's that. 
Cooking with their mom? 
 

1044
00:58:34,488 --> 00:58:38,172
Noticing or missing syrup. 
Pretty sure hers were the ones 


1045
00:58:38,180 --> 00:58:42,088
that looked wet upon delivery. 
Yeah, Janelle caramels were. 
 

1046
00:58:42,096 --> 00:58:43,600
Nice. 
Wet. 
 

1047
00:58:43,608 --> 00:58:49,824
And Christine is focusing really
hard on making the proper 
 

1048
00:58:49,832 --> 00:58:53,587
caramel because Christine gets 
accused of cheating all the 
 

1049
00:58:53,595 --> 00:58:55,255
time. 
Oh yeah, she's a cheetah. 
 

1050
00:58:55,263 --> 00:58:58,463
And so she's kind of trying to 
vindicate herself. 
 

1051
00:58:58,471 --> 00:59:05,560
And this is when Meri and Robyn 
keep going on and on about how 


1052
00:59:05,568 --> 00:59:09,080
tired they are and how they 
can't imagine making caramels 
 

1053
00:59:09,088 --> 00:59:14,574
right now and they talk about 
Christine and how Christine's a 

1054
00:59:14,574 --> 00:59:19,000
 cheater. 
Maybe we should nap instead of 


1055
00:59:19,008 --> 00:59:23,584
making them and then just go buy
caramels from some unfortunate 


1056
00:59:23,592 --> 00:59:28,208
store. 
Unfortunate store. 
 

1057
00:59:28,216 --> 00:59:38,070
So they go and have a nap and 
then they go to a store and 
 

1058
00:59:38,078 --> 00:59:43,344
they're just like, Meri says to 
the clerk. 
 

1059
00:59:43,352 --> 00:59:47,344
How's the dill? 
We have a caramel competition 
 

1060
00:59:47,352 --> 00:59:51,325
going on. 
We have to have the best 
 

1061
00:59:51,333 --> 00:59:55,396
caramels and Robyn this whole 
time is like chittering. 
 

1062
00:59:55,404 --> 00:59:58,460
Can't stop giggling. 
I thought she was high. 
 

1063
00:59:58,468 --> 01:00:00,560
I thought she was too. 
It's like this it. 
 

1064
01:00:00,568 --> 01:00:03,304
Was weird. 
She throws herself on the 
 

1065
01:00:03,312 --> 01:00:05,360
counter at one point, kind of 
half. 
 

1066
01:00:05,368 --> 01:00:08,780
Like what? 
And Meri's describing to the 
 

1067
01:00:08,788 --> 01:00:12,417
clerk how she's going to pass 
their caramels off as their own,

1068
01:00:12,417 --> 01:00:15,090

 like that's OK to do in the 
first place. 
 

1069
01:00:15,098 --> 01:00:17,640
Yeah, and as if it's even that 
exciting. 
 

1070
01:00:17,648 --> 01:00:18,415
Or anyone. 
Cares. 
 

1071
01:00:18,423 --> 01:00:21,441
Oh my God, It's like they're the
first people to ever be let in 


1072
01:00:21,449 --> 01:00:23,940
on a secret and they just can't 
let it go. 
 

1073
01:00:23,948 --> 01:00:25,909
And they're like dying laughing.
Totally. 
 

1074
01:00:25,917 --> 01:00:30,424
And then Meri says lies are 
always OK as long as you tell 
 

1075
01:00:30,432 --> 01:00:32,736
the truth later. 
Oh, interesting. 
 

1076
01:00:32,744 --> 01:00:36,360
God Forgives all. 
Now, darling, you glossed over a

1077
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,218

 very important point. 
Oh no. 
 

1078
01:00:38,226 --> 01:00:42,624
When Meri and Robyn are in the 
kitchen discussing how they're 


1079
01:00:42,632 --> 01:00:45,640
going to call this unfortunate 
store owner to see if her 
 

1080
01:00:45,648 --> 01:00:48,610
unfortunate store has some 
caramel caramel, Excuse me? 
 

1081
01:00:48,618 --> 01:00:53,626
They joke about your husband, 
which I loved cause Meri's like,

1082
01:00:53,626 --> 01:00:56,064

 well, you know, your husband 
wants blah, blah, blah, blah. 
 

1083
01:00:56,072 --> 01:00:59,250
And then Robyn's like, Oh no, 
no, no, he's your husband. 
 

1084
01:00:59,258 --> 01:01:03,225
And I kind of thought it was, I 
don't know, it stuck out to me 


1085
01:01:03,233 --> 01:01:04,540
as a little funny bit. 
Flirty. 
 

1086
01:01:04,548 --> 01:01:07,852
Well. 
Perhaps like it was a little pre

1087
01:01:07,852 --> 01:01:09,189

 nap, wink wink. 
Yeah. 
 

1088
01:01:09,197 --> 01:01:11,458
But yeah, it's your husband, not
mine. 
 

1089
01:01:11,466 --> 01:01:12,750
Oh, I don't have a husband 
either. 
 

1090
01:01:12,758 --> 01:01:15,400
It's your husband. 
You know what I'm saying? 
 

1091
01:01:15,408 --> 01:01:18,976
When the husband's away, the 
sister wives will play. 
 

1092
01:01:18,984 --> 01:01:21,655
And so you know, is this 
significant? 
 

1093
01:01:21,663 --> 01:01:25,574
No, but I just wanted to mention
it because your husband, your 
 

1094
01:01:25,582 --> 01:01:27,302
husband. 
I actually thought it was a 
 

1095
01:01:27,310 --> 01:01:30,044
little funny and kind of like, 
when in life are you ever going 

1096
01:01:30,044 --> 01:01:31,776
 to have the opportunity to say 
your husband? 
 

1097
01:01:31,784 --> 01:01:33,922
It's like, no. 
It was kind of funny because 
 

1098
01:01:33,930 --> 01:01:36,395
they were like, why did your 
husband make us do this? 
 

1099
01:01:36,403 --> 01:01:37,956
I don't know. 
He's not my husband. 
 

1100
01:01:37,964 --> 01:01:40,005
He's your husband. 
Why did your husband make us do 

1101
01:01:40,005 --> 01:01:40,734
 this? 
It was. 
 

1102
01:01:40,742 --> 01:01:41,940
Funny. 
It is funny because people 
 

1103
01:01:41,948 --> 01:01:43,440
always say that about the 
children, right? 
 

1104
01:01:43,448 --> 01:01:45,440
Like, well, your child, blah 
blah blah. 
 

1105
01:01:45,448 --> 01:01:48,610
It's like your child as well. 
So I thought that bit was a 
 

1106
01:01:48,618 --> 01:01:51,276
little funny. 
Did it warrant Robyn barreling 


1107
01:01:51,284 --> 01:01:53,827
over and losing consciousness 
from laughter? 
 

1108
01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:55,410
No. 
But it was funny. 
 

1109
01:01:55,418 --> 01:01:57,768
She wasn't even like cute 
laughing by this point. 
 

1110
01:01:57,776 --> 01:02:02,035
It was like ugly laughter, like.
Yeah, she was high this whole 
 

1111
01:02:02,043 --> 01:02:03,134
time. 
It's ridiculous. 
 

1112
01:02:03,142 --> 01:02:04,920
Yeah. 
After the store, they arrived 
 

1113
01:02:04,928 --> 01:02:08,104
back at Robyn's house to try to 
doctor up these unfortunate 
 

1114
01:02:08,112 --> 01:02:11,805
store bought caramels. 
Caramels to look homemade and 
 

1115
01:02:11,813 --> 01:02:16,040
their approach is a little like 
are you effing kidding me? 
 

1116
01:02:16,048 --> 01:02:20,322
I mean, it seems like they were 
talking about rolling them and I

1117
01:02:20,322 --> 01:02:23,058

 don't even know. 
They were just going to reshape 

1118
01:02:23,058 --> 01:02:25,160
 them. 
And Meri says, well, they're 
 

1119
01:02:25,168 --> 01:02:27,372
just like this, but they're 
flattened. 
 

1120
01:02:27,380 --> 01:02:31,475
So they start like warming the 
caramels up in their hands and 


1121
01:02:31,483 --> 01:02:34,770
then smashing them on the 
counter with like the palm of 
 

1122
01:02:34,778 --> 01:02:36,150
their hands. 
Yeah, yeah. 
 

1123
01:02:36,158 --> 01:02:38,980
And it's like, just imagine, 
like the sweaty hands, like 
 

1124
01:02:38,988 --> 01:02:41,658
smashing the caramels and then 
everyone unrolling the caramels 

1125
01:02:41,658 --> 01:02:44,892
 and creating them. 
You're going to be as wet as 
 

1126
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:47,488
Janelle's caramel caramel. 
Nothing's wetter than that 
 

1127
01:02:47,496 --> 01:02:49,367
caramel. 
Nothing's wetter than Janelle's 

1128
01:02:49,367 --> 01:02:52,220
 caramel, it looked. 
Damp. 
 

1129
01:02:52,228 --> 01:02:58,748
As musty as Robyn's basement 
now, Robyn tells us. 
 

1130
01:02:58,756 --> 01:03:05,040
I'd make a horrible shoplifter. 
I'm too nervous in her stupor 
 

1131
01:03:05,048 --> 01:03:09,020
because she's laughing like an 
uncontrollable idiot. 
 

1132
01:03:09,028 --> 01:03:12,464
She's like a hyena this entire. 
Oh, it's so disturbing. 
 

1133
01:03:12,472 --> 01:03:15,780
And you know, what crossed my 
mind was, you know, Robyn, you 


1134
01:03:15,788 --> 01:03:20,605
would be a horrible shoplifter. 
I think you'd probably be better

1135
01:03:20,605 --> 01:03:24,215

 fit for fraud or embezzlement.
You know, she's more calculated 

1136
01:03:24,215 --> 01:03:26,976
 than going into a store and 
just slipping something in her 


1137
01:03:26,984 --> 01:03:28,442
pocket. 
She's like, I'm going to steal 


1138
01:03:28,450 --> 01:03:31,619
the money from right from under 
you for years kind of vibe. 
 

1139
01:03:31,627 --> 01:03:36,494
She's not smart enough to do it,
so she has to do what we all 
 

1140
01:03:36,502 --> 01:03:41,148
fucking hate most in the world 
and ask a man to embezzle and do

1141
01:03:41,148 --> 01:03:44,535

 the work for her. 
Not a man and. 
 

1142
01:03:44,543 --> 01:03:48,292
She just plays innocent even 
though she's playing the puppet 

1143
01:03:48,292 --> 01:03:52,335
 strings and she gets it all. 
She's got that Kody wrapped 
 

1144
01:03:52,343 --> 01:03:57,210
around her little disgusting 
finger cut to the taste test of 

1145
01:03:57,210 --> 01:03:59,642
 these caramels. 
Oh, everyone's been, I know you 

1146
01:03:59,642 --> 01:04:02,512
 all have been waiting for the 
outcome of this competition. 
 

1147
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,600
Everyone's been waiting on the 
edge of their seat. 
 

1148
01:04:05,608 --> 01:04:08,040
What's going to happen? 
What's going to happen? 
 

1149
01:04:08,048 --> 01:04:11,120
This is where I just wrote 
because we're they're showing us

1150
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,246

 the tray that they're being 
presented on with this blind 
 

1151
01:04:14,254 --> 01:04:16,138
taste test. 
Was it a paper plate? 
 

1152
01:04:16,146 --> 01:04:20,276
It's just. 
A plate and all I wrote is 1 is 

1153
01:04:20,276 --> 01:04:24,882
 wet. 
There definitely was a wet one 


1154
01:04:24,890 --> 01:04:29,025
there's. 3 caramels and one is 
showing signs of being wet. 
 

1155
01:04:29,033 --> 01:04:31,710
It is glossy. 
It is shiny. 
 

1156
01:04:31,718 --> 01:04:34,700
There might be droplets of 
wetness on it. 
 

1157
01:04:34,708 --> 01:04:36,840
It left a snail trail on the 
blade. 
 

1158
01:04:36,848 --> 01:04:39,408
It sure did. 
When Kody puts these caramels in

1159
01:04:39,408 --> 01:04:42,930

 his mouth, one of which was 
wet and the other two are dry, 

1160
01:04:42,930 --> 01:04:47,230
the 
 first one that he tries is
a bit soft and he didn't say 

1161
01:04:47,230 --> 01:04:51,294
that it 
 was wet and he didn't 
say that it slipped out of his 

1162
01:04:51,294 --> 01:04:52,680
mouth and 
 he had to put it 
back in. 

1163
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,600
But. 
 
It was soft. 

1164
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,560
It was soft #2 not to be 
 
confused with the bowel movement

1165
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,600
was very yummy. 
 
He thought it tasted great, but 

1166
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,360
it wasn't as wet as his mom's or

 as dry as his mom's, not quite

1167
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,160
sure. 
 
And it tasted different than his

1168
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,960
mom's. 
 
When he popped that caramel in 

1169
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,440
his mouth, he said this doesn't 
 taste like my mother's caramel.

1170
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,520
And Kody questions them if it's 
 either of their mom's recipes. 

1171
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,400
Robyn, is this your mom's 
 
recipe? 

1172
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,202
Meri, is this your mom's recipe?

 

1173
01:05:25,210 --> 01:05:28,384
And it's like Kody, get these 
women's mother's recipes out of 

1174
01:05:28,384 --> 01:05:32,365
 your mouth. 
Roger keeps saying because it's 

1175
01:05:32,365 --> 01:05:34,606
 walnuts, not pecans or 
something. 
 

1176
01:05:34,614 --> 01:05:36,594
Yeah, it's these nuts, not those
nuts. 
 

1177
01:05:36,602 --> 01:05:39,920
Like who gives a fuck? 
Puts nuts in their caramel first

1178
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,962

 of all, you psychopaths. 
Well, as you know, I'm allergic 

1179
01:05:43,962 --> 01:05:45,888
 to caramel so I don't know 
anything about this. 
 

1180
01:05:45,896 --> 01:05:48,507
Chris told me a story after we 
met. 
 

1181
01:05:48,515 --> 01:05:52,962
Betty was allergic to caramel. 
And then obviously I kind of 
 

1182
01:05:52,970 --> 01:05:56,983
like what how can that be? 
And he admitted that it was a. 


1183
01:05:56,991 --> 01:05:58,440
Lie, right? 
I'm kind of like Meri. 
 

1184
01:05:58,448 --> 01:06:00,966
You know, you could tell the lie
as long as you ask for 
 

1185
01:06:00,974 --> 01:06:01,543
forgiveness. 
Yeah. 
 

1186
01:06:01,551 --> 01:06:04,812
The true story is when I was a 
young child, I made-up that I 
 

1187
01:06:04,820 --> 01:06:07,405
was allergic to caramel because 
I'm not actually that much of a 

1188
01:06:07,405 --> 01:06:09,070
 fan. 
Now as an adult, I'll eat some 


1189
01:06:09,078 --> 01:06:11,512
caramel like it's fine, but when
I was a kid, I really didn't 
 

1190
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,872
like it. 
And people would always be like 

1191
01:06:13,872 --> 01:06:15,472
 pushing caramel, especially 
when you're a kid. 
 

1192
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:16,230
They're just. 
Pusher. 
 

1193
01:06:16,238 --> 01:06:18,725
They are pushers. 
They're like pop that Werther's 

1194
01:06:18,725 --> 01:06:20,792
 in your mouth. 
And I'm like, it's wet and 
 

1195
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,990
tastes like my mother. 
Like I don't like it. 
 

1196
01:06:22,998 --> 01:06:26,789
You know, it's it's it's I just,
I made-up that I was allergic to

1197
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:28,904

 caramel so that especially at 
school, like people would be 
 

1198
01:06:28,912 --> 01:06:31,200
like, you have to eat this. 
And I'd be like, I don't want 
 

1199
01:06:31,208 --> 01:06:32,320
to. 
You're not. 
 

1200
01:06:32,328 --> 01:06:37,862
How many times did people try to
force to do caramel the child 
 

1201
01:06:37,870 --> 01:06:42,478
they felt the need to lie? 
It happened enough times for me 

1202
01:06:42,478 --> 01:06:46,975
 to fabricate a story that I was
allergic to caramel so people 
 

1203
01:06:46,983 --> 01:06:50,121
would stop forcing it on me. 
It was terrible. 
 

1204
01:06:50,129 --> 01:06:54,290
What's so funny is that people 
used to be obsessed. 
 

1205
01:06:54,298 --> 01:06:58,122
With Werthers, yes, I'm telling 
you it's part of my childhood. 


1206
01:06:58,130 --> 01:07:00,260
It's like a staple was my 
caramel lie. 
 

1207
01:07:00,268 --> 01:07:03,348
It followed me for years and 
years because I would just tell 

1208
01:07:03,348 --> 01:07:05,280
 people I'm allergic. 
Of course, eventually you get 
 

1209
01:07:05,288 --> 01:07:07,260
old enough for people start 
putting the pieces together that

1210
01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:09,144

 it's like, isn't caramel just 
like sugar and flavouring? 
 

1211
01:07:09,152 --> 01:07:11,305
And I'm like, I don't know, I'm 
allergic to it. 
 

1212
01:07:11,313 --> 01:07:14,367
I I have no idea. 
But of course as an. 
 

1213
01:07:14,375 --> 01:07:17,668
Adult. 
It's just kind of like some 
 

1214
01:07:17,676 --> 01:07:20,248
other wet things. 
I just have not gone there. 
 

1215
01:07:20,256 --> 01:07:23,136
I don't like it. 
Get it out of my face, get it 
 

1216
01:07:23,144 --> 01:07:24,292
out of my mouth. 
But. 
 

1217
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:28,140
There's a good where there's and
there's a bad where there's the 

1218
01:07:28,140 --> 01:07:31,644
 good where there's it's a 
little moist has a give to it. 


1219
01:07:31,652 --> 01:07:34,366
The bad one is like the hard 
square. 
 

1220
01:07:34,374 --> 01:07:39,375
That's like a hard candy almost.
And I'm dying because that you 


1221
01:07:39,383 --> 01:07:41,534
used to see that shit 
everywhere. 
 

1222
01:07:41,542 --> 01:07:45,500
Like on the counters everywhere.
Your grandma had em, your mom 
 

1223
01:07:45,508 --> 01:07:46,921
had em. 
Remember the commercials? 
 

1224
01:07:46,929 --> 01:07:50,527
Like yes, the grandpa giving it 
to the grandson my Werther's 
 

1225
01:07:50,535 --> 01:07:52,040
original. 
True. 
 

1226
01:07:52,048 --> 01:07:53,984
Yeah. 
Oh my God. 
 

1227
01:07:53,992 --> 01:07:54,890
Memory's unlocked. 
Right. 
 

1228
01:07:54,898 --> 01:07:56,600
And I was going, I'm allergic to
that shit. 
 

1229
01:07:56,608 --> 01:07:58,134
I'm scared. 
Oh my God. 
 

1230
01:07:58,142 --> 01:08:01,778
Obviously as an adult I came 
clean and said no, I just don't 

1231
01:08:01,778 --> 01:08:03,235
 like it. 
Please stop putting it in my 
 

1232
01:08:03,243 --> 01:08:05,134
mouth. 
Can you guys tell us what 
 

1233
01:08:05,142 --> 01:08:08,860
happened to Werther's? 
Did the Browns get a hold of 
 

1234
01:08:08,868 --> 01:08:10,770
their factory for these caramels
of theirs? 
 

1235
01:08:10,778 --> 01:08:13,675
Yes, they actually went to the 
factory and Werther's is no 
 

1236
01:08:13,683 --> 01:08:17,319
longer a thing. 
It got browned down, shut down. 

1237
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:19,240
 
Brown to the ground. 

1238
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,399
Now, according to Kody, the 
 
third caramel he tried was just 

1239
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,040
right. 
 
Just like the porridge in the 

1240
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,840
bed, in the chair. 
 
And whatever happened to, is it 

1241
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,880
Goldilocks in the Three Bears? 

I feel like in the last episode 

1242
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,160
I said it and I thought that I 

was talking about the girl that 

1243
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,960
put down the hair from the 
 
tower. 

1244
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,479
And so I was like, oh, that's 
 
not even the right one. 

1245
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,399
And it's like, no, Chris, it was

 the right one. 

1246
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,439
It was the right one. 
 
We were talking about the 

1247
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,000
mattresses that they were 
 
trying. 

1248
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,800
Yes. 
 
Well, was it a pee under the 

1249
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,040
mattress? 
 
The Princess and the pee 

1250
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,080
Princess. 
 
There was just so many things 

1251
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,225
happening and someone was trying

 to shove caramel down my 

1252
01:08:53,225 --> 01:08:55,120
throat and I said enough, 
enough, 
 enough. 

1253
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,960
I don't want your cream savers 

either. 

1254
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,840
I'm strictly chocolate. 
 
I like. 

1255
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,120
Milk chocolate. 
 
I like milk chocolate better 

1256
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,240
than dark chocolate, but there's

 a place for all the different 

1257
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,760
kinds of chocolate. 
 
Just nothing. 

1258
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,600
Strawberry. 
 
That third caramel hit Kody in 

1259
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,720
all the right places. 
 
It tasted just like his mother's

1260
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,080
caramel. 
 
And turns out that that third 

1261
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,840
one was Christine's caramel. 
 
She got it right. 

1262
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:33,479
She won once, not by cheating, 

but by the reality of her 

1263
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:38,840
caramel. 
 
All she had to do was try, try, 

1264
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,160
try again. 
 
Which is how you get better, 

1265
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:42,359
rat. 
 
Thanks, Racine. 

1266
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,479
That's how you get better, rat. 
 

1267
01:09:44,488 --> 01:09:46,840
Thanks, Racine. 
If she had tried as hard to be a

1268
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,214

 realtor as she did it those 
caramels she. 
 

1269
01:09:49,221 --> 01:09:52,000
Honestly. 
She might be the Mauricio 
 

1270
01:09:52,008 --> 01:09:55,480
Obansky of today's world, but. 
It is honestly, you know, 
 

1271
01:09:55,488 --> 01:09:57,876
Caramel's not easy to make. 
Listen, I've never tried. 
 

1272
01:09:57,884 --> 01:09:59,170
I was allergic. 
Burns. 
 

1273
01:09:59,178 --> 01:10:01,267
Burns so easily. 
Yeah. 
 

1274
01:10:01,275 --> 01:10:04,495
Like your nostrils would have 
just burned up inside because of

1275
01:10:04,495 --> 01:10:05,814

 your allergic reaction. 
Yeah. 
 

1276
01:10:05,822 --> 01:10:08,824
It's bring me the EpiPen. 
Very hard to make. 
 

1277
01:10:08,832 --> 01:10:13,240
I'm a Baker, I love to bake. 
I would never attempt to make my

1278
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,296

 own caramel because it doesn't
matter that much to me because 


1279
01:10:16,304 --> 01:10:21,120
I'm actually allergic to. 
But that's for a different day 


1280
01:10:21,128 --> 01:10:23,520
because it's like actually 
really traumatizing. 
 

1281
01:10:23,528 --> 01:10:25,500
Right. 
I've never met another person 
 

1282
01:10:25,508 --> 01:10:27,760
allergic to caramel. 
I know like I think you, I think

1283
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,788

 you might have given it to me 
to be honest with you. 
 

1284
01:10:30,796 --> 01:10:34,174
What a magical moment for 
everyone listening to be able to

1285
01:10:34,174 --> 01:10:35,060

 experience with us. 
It's. 
 

1286
01:10:35,068 --> 01:10:38,040
Kind of a big deal. 
Thank you for being here on our 

1287
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,002
 Christmas morning. 
So in this back and forth, they 

1288
01:10:41,002 --> 01:10:45,520
 do give a pan over to Janelle 
where she's tasting one of Robyn

1289
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,596

 and Meri's stolen caramels and
she says this tastes like a name

1290
01:10:50,596 --> 01:10:53,516

 brand caramel. 
And I'm like, yes, Janelle, 
 

1291
01:10:53,524 --> 01:10:57,895
taste buds of a. 
What true trash eater? 
 

1292
01:10:57,903 --> 01:11:01,808
Because I'm like, yeah, that 
fakey fake taste of the fake 
 

1293
01:11:01,816 --> 01:11:04,294
sugar and the fake this and fake
that. 
 

1294
01:11:04,302 --> 01:11:07,709
Like yeah, you can tell. 
Yeah, you can tell she's been 
 

1295
01:11:07,717 --> 01:11:09,660
there. 
She's popped that in her mouth. 

1296
01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:11,040
 
Before a fellow Dorito fan. 

1297
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,360
At this point we have a couch 
 
moment where Meri and Robyn 

1298
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,120
confessed to everything that 
 
they did and when they started 

1299
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,600
talking I'm like they don't 
 
know. 

1300
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,440
They don't know like this didn't

 come up already. 

1301
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:25,680
Like how is this not a thing? 
 
But it really feels like the 

1302
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,626
other wives didn't actually know

 that they did this when 

1303
01:11:28,626 --> 01:11:30,560
they're confessing or when 
Meri's 
 confessing. 

1304
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,000
Robyn is laughing 
 
uncontrollably, like she is not 

1305
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,760
able to usher even a sentence 
 
fragment. 

1306
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,080
It is just. 
 
Like she was, Yeah, when they 

1307
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,390
were buying them with the clerk.

 

1308
01:11:40,398 --> 01:11:42,734
This is the funniest thing 
that's ever happened to Robyn in

1309
01:11:42,734 --> 01:11:44,383

 her entire life. 
Insane. 
 

1310
01:11:44,391 --> 01:11:47,400
Like a teenager with her best 
friend that's like giggling in 


1311
01:11:47,408 --> 01:11:50,736
front of a boy and she can't 
stop and it's like got the 
 

1312
01:11:50,744 --> 01:11:53,400
giggle fits going on. 
Yeah, meanwhile she's a mother 


1313
01:11:53,408 --> 01:11:56,520
of four who's approaching middle
age and looks terrible. 
 

1314
01:11:56,528 --> 01:11:59,800
Yeah, and while this ridiculous 
exchange is happening, Kody 
 

1315
01:11:59,808 --> 01:12:03,760
decides to get up and abruptly 
leave the couch out of fake 
 

1316
01:12:03,768 --> 01:12:07,540
protest that they would even try
to pass off a store bought 
 

1317
01:12:07,548 --> 01:12:11,440
Carmel for the kind his mother 
used to nurse him with. 
 

1318
01:12:11,448 --> 01:12:15,200
This brings about a wonderful 
opportunity for Christine to 
 

1319
01:12:15,208 --> 01:12:17,680
talk about the family mission 
statement. 
 

1320
01:12:17,688 --> 01:12:22,055
In case you've missed it, we've 
been drafting this family 
 

1321
01:12:22,063 --> 01:12:24,250
mission statement for a hot 
minute. 
 

1322
01:12:24,258 --> 01:12:28,428
It's been going on and going on.
Don't forget that for Joseph 
 

1323
01:12:28,436 --> 01:12:31,180
Smith's birthday, Christine gave
them pieces of paper with their 

1324
01:12:31,180 --> 01:12:33,641
 name and what they, as 
individuals, contributed to 
 

1325
01:12:33,649 --> 01:12:35,314
their first brainstorming 
session. 
 

1326
01:12:35,322 --> 01:12:39,783
Now we're coming back for 
session #2 and Janelle is so 
 

1327
01:12:39,791 --> 01:12:42,292
excited. 
She is enthused as ever. 
 

1328
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:46,208
Meanwhile, I see Robyn about to 
start breastfeeding Saul and 
 

1329
01:12:46,216 --> 01:12:49,724
then they cut back to Christine.
And so it feels very unnecessary

1330
01:12:49,724 --> 01:12:51,820

 to have shown Robyn about to 
do that. 
 

1331
01:12:51,828 --> 01:12:55,390
And Christine goes, what's our 
and goal? 
 

1332
01:12:55,398 --> 01:12:59,909
What's our end goal, everybody? 
What's our end goal? 
 

1333
01:12:59,917 --> 01:13:02,460
Well, Janelle says. 
I still don't see the end goal 


1334
01:13:02,468 --> 01:13:04,444
insight. 
No, I'm just gonna go say that. 

1335
01:13:04,444 --> 01:13:05,200
 
She does she. 

1336
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,640
Doesn't see the end. 
 
She does say that about their 

1337
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,760
activity. 
 
Not sure that anyone really 

1338
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,360
responds to that. 
 
I didn't track other than when 

1339
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,560
the kids were giving sarcastic 

comments and she said the kids 

1340
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,040
are being Pooh Pooh heads. 
 
Yeah, they were referring to. 

1341
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,957
The children as Pooh Pooh heads 
 and they literally showed 

1342
01:13:23,957 --> 01:13:27,862
Hunter on the ground being like 
blah 
 blah blah blah blah like 

1343
01:13:27,862 --> 01:13:31,040
no one cares except for 
Christine she 
 really cares. 

1344
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,120
They decide that they're going 

to take their top like 5 traits 

1345
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,320
that they want reflected and 
 
write them on one piece of paper

1346
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,760
and that they're going to work 

the mission statement from 

1347
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,760
there. 
 
And Robyn is fighting for them 

1348
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:49,720
not to remove the word financial

 to be a main point in the 

1349
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,480
mission statement. 
 
Well, we need financial and I'm 

1350
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:55,760
like, yeah, you do you money 
 
hungry whore. 

1351
01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:59,480
She is adamant that they keep 
 
financial. 

1352
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,270
She doesn't want to let that go.

 

1353
01:14:01,278 --> 01:14:05,005
It's very important to her that 
their family is financially OK, 

1354
01:14:05,005 --> 01:14:09,640
 and it's just interesting. 
It's weird because financial 
 

1355
01:14:09,648 --> 01:14:13,052
stability is a fundamental 
building block for a lot of 
 

1356
01:14:13,060 --> 01:14:15,664
families. 
It's not that she's wrong and 
 

1357
01:14:15,672 --> 01:14:18,184
not having some sort of 
addressing something where 
 

1358
01:14:18,192 --> 01:14:20,840
you're talking about maybe 
success or doing your best, 
 

1359
01:14:20,848 --> 01:14:23,730
because there's ways that you 
can talk about finances without 

1360
01:14:23,730 --> 01:14:25,480
 actually talking about the 
finances, right? 
 

1361
01:14:25,488 --> 01:14:29,162
Like we always strive to do our 
best, we achieve our goals, we 


1362
01:14:29,170 --> 01:14:33,514
maintain health when it comes to
our physical, our spiritual, our

1363
01:14:33,514 --> 01:14:35,954

 financial. 
But she's an idiot. 
 

1364
01:14:35,962 --> 01:14:39,052
We make enough to send our kids 
to college. 
 

1365
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:43,144
Education is important, so we 
work towards finances for 
 

1366
01:14:43,152 --> 01:14:45,830
education or financing 
education. 
 

1367
01:14:45,838 --> 01:14:52,040
Hello, financing education. 
She doesn't even deduce it to 
 

1368
01:14:52,048 --> 01:14:55,580
anything like truly integral to 
the family's morals. 
 

1369
01:14:55,588 --> 01:14:58,430
Yeah, and their goals that 
they've said from the beginning 

1370
01:14:58,430 --> 01:15:00,464
 that every kid needs to go to 
college, and she does. 
 

1371
01:15:00,472 --> 01:15:02,948
Yeah. 
Can't connect those dots. 
 

1372
01:15:02,956 --> 01:15:05,320
No, no. 
I don't know that that even 
 

1373
01:15:05,328 --> 01:15:06,916
wrapped anywhere. 
I feel like the scene just kind 

1374
01:15:06,916 --> 01:15:09,030
 of ended. 
Was there any tie up to all 
 

1375
01:15:09,038 --> 01:15:09,703
this? 
No. 
 

1376
01:15:09,711 --> 01:15:13,284
Yeah, it just kind of stopped 
and then all of a sudden we're 


1377
01:15:13,292 --> 01:15:14,670
at Meri's rental. 
Yeah. 
 

1378
01:15:14,678 --> 01:15:16,910
So like, OK, that was just a 
scene and. 
 

1379
01:15:16,918 --> 01:15:19,048
We've been getting a lot of 
whiplash again. 
 

1380
01:15:19,056 --> 01:15:22,004
Yeah, this episode. 
And we find out that it's 
 

1381
01:15:22,012 --> 01:15:24,800
January 3rd, so it is the day 
after their holiday. 
 

1382
01:15:24,808 --> 01:15:29,630
Excuse me, Their Christmas party
and Mona is going to meet them 


1383
01:15:29,638 --> 01:15:31,486
after sundown to give them the 
keys. 
 

1384
01:15:31,494 --> 01:15:34,064
So Meri finally did get some 
good news. 
 

1385
01:15:34,072 --> 01:15:36,842
She's been approved. 
She's getting the keys, and it's

1386
01:15:36,842 --> 01:15:38,730

 late at night. 
How exciting. 
 

1387
01:15:38,738 --> 01:15:41,868
When they get to the house, 
they're inside and they're 
 

1388
01:15:41,876 --> 01:15:45,010
signing documents on the island.
And I was wondering, could they 

1389
01:15:45,010 --> 01:15:46,800
 see the paperwork with those 
uneven pendants? 
 

1390
01:15:46,808 --> 01:15:49,138
Could they even see what they 
were signing? 
 

1391
01:15:49,146 --> 01:15:52,140
It's all just a mystery. 
Oh my gosh. 
 

1392
01:15:52,148 --> 01:15:55,050
And Mona sounds so excited to be
done with them. 
 

1393
01:15:55,058 --> 01:15:58,220
Like she's literally like, just 
so glad we could get this done 


1394
01:15:58,228 --> 01:16:00,205
today. 
Like, Oh my God. 
 

1395
01:16:00,213 --> 01:16:03,070
Yeah, Kody's like, Mona, you're 
a trooper. 
 

1396
01:16:03,078 --> 01:16:08,310
And it's two years into this. 
She's been working with them for

1397
01:16:08,310 --> 01:16:10,786

 two years. 
They bring that number up again,

1398
01:16:10,786 --> 01:16:13,680

 and it's like, God damn. 
Yeah, She's been working with 
 

1399
01:16:13,688 --> 01:16:16,925
them for two whole years. 
And she looks like Mona, looks 


1400
01:16:16,933 --> 01:16:20,968
like she's going to cry. 
And then she says we finally did

1401
01:16:20,968 --> 01:16:24,295

 it, it's over and I'm going. 
Home and I'm going home. 
 

1402
01:16:24,303 --> 01:16:27,326
This is it. 
It's like the end of a chapter 


1403
01:16:27,334 --> 01:16:28,608
for Mona. 
I'm going. 
 

1404
01:16:28,616 --> 01:16:32,215
Home, I'm going home and I if I 
remember correctly, Mona helped 

1405
01:16:32,215 --> 01:16:35,275
 them get into the rentals. 
So she did this is it. 
 

1406
01:16:35,283 --> 01:16:38,380
They've been working with her 
since they were residents of 
 

1407
01:16:38,388 --> 01:16:41,681
Utah, criminals in Utah. 
And then they did their what is 

1408
01:16:41,681 --> 01:16:44,230
 it called when you go across 
the desert, they're Exodus. 
 

1409
01:16:44,238 --> 01:16:47,579
Voyage. 
Whatever the Jews did to get out

1410
01:16:47,579 --> 01:16:49,732

 of Egypt, you know, the 
pilgrimage, pilgrimage. 
 

1411
01:16:49,740 --> 01:16:54,056
They took their pilgrimage to 
Las Vegas to live down the 
 

1412
01:16:54,064 --> 01:16:57,630
street from Robyn's bearded 
mother and her stepdaddy uncle. 

1413
01:16:57,630 --> 01:17:00,400
 
And Mona's been there for them 

1414
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,240
the entire time. 
 
God bless Mona. 

1415
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:06,760
And she's finally going to be 
 
able to put down all the 

1416
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,870
disguises and just be her normal

 self again, because she 

1417
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:13,765
doesn't want to have to hide 
from the 
 Browns and not let 

1418
01:17:13,765 --> 01:17:17,720
them know who she really is. 
 
Yep, I'm going to miss her. 

1419
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,680
Because who she really is 
 
probably violates their sacred 

1420
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,640
covenants and testimonies from 

God. 

1421
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,960
Yeah, those crystals, those 
 
nipple tassels. 

1422
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:33,400
In the arms of the angels. 
 
In Memoriam In memoriam for 

1423
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:34,840
Mona, it's like she's still 
 
alive. 

1424
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,800
We're just mourning the loss of 
 this fabulous character. 

1425
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:42,440
I am just mourning the loss of 

all of the characters of her. 

1426
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,800
You know, like all of the 
 
versions of her I dream of 

1427
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,800
Jeannie's mom, biker chick, 
 
Christmas. 

1428
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:57,480
Yes, blossom, fortune teller, 
 
Goddess nipple. 

1429
01:17:57,480 --> 01:17:59,440
Queen nipple. 
 
Queen. 

1430
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:05,640
Yes, Mona. 
 
I chant in the woods and moon. 

1431
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,680
Charge. 
 
Moon Charge. 

1432
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,200
Wound Charge. 
 
I chant in the woods and moon 

1433
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,120
charge my pussy. 
 
Mona. 

1434
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,440
Yes. 
 
I'm just going to miss every 

1435
01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:17,440
version of Mona. 
 
Mona hard hat Mona was one of my

1436
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:18,720
favorites. 
 
Hard hat, Mona. 

1437
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,320
Yes. 
 
No, don't leave us. 

1438
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,240
Don't leave us with these 
 
people, Mona. 

1439
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,122
Don't leave us with the Browns. 
 

1440
01:18:25,130 --> 01:18:27,960
She's like, I'm going home and 
we're like, we're still here. 
 

1441
01:18:27,968 --> 01:18:30,904
We're at the Brown family. 
Cul-de-sac, help us, help us. 
 

1442
01:18:30,912 --> 01:18:35,005
Our abysmal jail that we've made
for ourselves in these boots 
 

1443
01:18:35,013 --> 01:18:37,460
that we record. 
Yes, we've built our own prison 

1444
01:18:37,460 --> 01:18:41,160
 and now we're living in. 
It I'm in a curtained box of 
 

1445
01:18:41,168 --> 01:18:41,960
emotion. 
Oh God. 
 

1446
01:18:41,968 --> 01:18:43,100
Oh no. 
Oh no. 
 

1447
01:18:43,108 --> 01:18:45,784
Step Brothers. 
Hot off the heels of Mona 
 

1448
01:18:45,792 --> 01:18:48,760
slipping a caramel in her. 
Oh, sorry, I'm getting my scenes

1449
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,970

 confused here. 
Kody and Meri go to Leon's 
 

1450
01:18:51,978 --> 01:18:55,028
workplace to surprise them with 
the news. 
 

1451
01:18:55,036 --> 01:18:59,490
Oh, those little devils. 
They spoke to Leon's manager 
 

1452
01:18:59,498 --> 01:19:02,622
previously and worked something 
out so that Leon could leave 
 

1453
01:19:02,630 --> 01:19:05,690
work to go see the house. 
There's going to be coverage for

1454
01:19:05,690 --> 01:19:08,020

 that teenager working at that 
froyo shop. 
 

1455
01:19:08,028 --> 01:19:10,270
The owner. 
Oh, the owner. 
 

1456
01:19:10,278 --> 01:19:13,667
Excuse me, not manager, owner. 
Leon must have the wool pulled 


1457
01:19:13,675 --> 01:19:15,240
over their eyes. 
What? 
 

1458
01:19:15,248 --> 01:19:21,300
Does that mean? 
It's kind of embarrassing when 


1459
01:19:21,308 --> 01:19:23,567
like kids, parents call their 
place of work. 
 

1460
01:19:23,575 --> 01:19:24,815
So it's just like. 
Right. 
 

1461
01:19:24,823 --> 01:19:28,282
Like I would have been in their 
juvenile and then during it been

1462
01:19:28,282 --> 01:19:31,152

 distracted by the thing and 
then afterwards been like please

1463
01:19:31,152 --> 01:19:33,936

 don't ever call my work again 
for anything ever. 
 

1464
01:19:33,944 --> 01:19:36,474
Like seriously. 
Leon is probably the type of 
 

1465
01:19:36,482 --> 01:19:39,115
person that has had Meri call in
sick for them before though. 
 

1466
01:19:39,123 --> 01:19:40,668
Oh my. 
God totally. 
 

1467
01:19:40,676 --> 01:19:44,860
That's why I'm like oh this just
gives me the cringe really hard 

1468
01:19:44,860 --> 01:19:49,660
 because I feel like it seemed 
like Meri and Kody were friends 

1469
01:19:49,660 --> 01:19:54,130
 with said boss and owner they. 
Sure, Familiar enough. 
 

1470
01:19:54,138 --> 01:19:57,200
Yeah, my parents wouldn't have 
been calling my McDonald's 
 

1471
01:19:57,208 --> 01:20:01,255
manager when I was 15 to tell 
them they're 1617, to say, oh, 


1472
01:20:01,263 --> 01:20:04,612
Chris needs to come because 
we're getting keys to a new 
 

1473
01:20:04,620 --> 01:20:06,295
house. 
They would have been like the 
 

1474
01:20:06,303 --> 01:20:08,120
you want Chris to have a job 
after today? 
 

1475
01:20:08,128 --> 01:20:10,520
Chris needs the sticks. 
He's the best at getting the 
 

1476
01:20:10,528 --> 01:20:12,360
fries out from under the fryer, 
bitch. 
 

1477
01:20:12,368 --> 01:20:13,960
Exactly. 
I was the fry king. 
 

1478
01:20:13,968 --> 01:20:16,232
They're like, we can't make 
those caramel sundaes without 
 

1479
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,509
him. 
I would like to let everybody in

1480
01:20:19,509 --> 01:20:23,446

 this McDonald's know that the 
ice cream machine is now not 
 

1481
01:20:23,454 --> 01:20:25,800
working. 
Christopher, what the fuck did 


1482
01:20:25,808 --> 01:20:30,536
you have to do this talk? 
Blame me for all of the 
 

1483
01:20:30,544 --> 01:20:33,525
McDonald's ice cream machines 
not working because of my lies 


1484
01:20:33,533 --> 01:20:36,550
about a caramel allergy and. 
Caramel infection. 
 

1485
01:20:36,558 --> 01:20:40,188
Oh, I have a caramel infection. 
Oh God. 
 

1486
01:20:40,196 --> 01:20:44,974
Meri tells us that Leon was the 
happiest she's seen them in a 
 

1487
01:20:44,982 --> 01:20:47,280
very long time. 
Oh, how touching. 
 

1488
01:20:47,288 --> 01:20:50,082
I wish I was moved. 
And then we immediately cut to 


1489
01:20:50,090 --> 01:20:53,322
people helping to pack up some 
of Meri's stuff and bring these 

1490
01:20:53,322 --> 01:20:56,008
 things from Meri's rental to 
her home. 
 

1491
01:20:56,016 --> 01:21:01,320
They're playing dramatic, somber
Christmas music, something about

1492
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,783

 a guy named Manuel. 
Now that they have all of the 
 

1493
01:21:05,791 --> 01:21:10,864
homes, they put in a clip of 
Kody saying that he thinks this 

1494
01:21:10,864 --> 01:21:16,630
 was their best Christmas ever 
and then they show clips from 
 

1495
01:21:16,638 --> 01:21:19,920
the cabin Christmas from two 
years ago. 
 

1496
01:21:19,928 --> 01:21:21,500
Yes. 
And. 
 

1497
01:21:21,508 --> 01:21:23,412
When they were all sick at that 
cabin. 
 

1498
01:21:23,420 --> 01:21:28,435
They were all sick, yes, but 
they choose to show clip after 


1499
01:21:28,443 --> 01:21:33,334
clip after clip of everybody 
crying at the cabin with like 
 

1500
01:21:33,342 --> 01:21:36,520
the foggy border. 
So it's obviously like we're 
 

1501
01:21:36,528 --> 01:21:39,870
looking into the past. 
Mona's nipple rings are letting 

1502
01:21:39,870 --> 01:21:44,260
 us look into the past and 
they're just showing crying 
 

1503
01:21:44,268 --> 01:21:48,252
clips of this Cabin Christmas. 
And they're happy tears. 
 

1504
01:21:48,260 --> 01:21:53,976
You motherfucking liars. 
You just expect us to forget how

1505
01:21:53,976 --> 01:21:57,620

 wonderful that Christmas was. 
It was a wonderful Meri slid 
 

1506
01:21:57,628 --> 01:22:00,740
into the cabin on that sled. 
She almost broke her leg. 
 

1507
01:22:00,748 --> 01:22:02,508
She. 
Made everyone's PJ's still. 
 

1508
01:22:02,516 --> 01:22:06,624
Yes, they set up that tree that 
was so tall that it was like, oh

1509
01:22:06,624 --> 01:22:09,608

 God, is it even going to fit? 
They were all sick. 
 

1510
01:22:09,616 --> 01:22:12,890
They had to take the snowmobiles
up to the house at first. 
 

1511
01:22:12,898 --> 01:22:15,224
There were so many beautiful 
things with that house. 
 

1512
01:22:15,232 --> 01:22:18,344
The hot tub, the ice dams that 
Kody was breaking down. 
 

1513
01:22:18,352 --> 01:22:21,645
See Fond memories, A beautiful 
Christmas, and they're playing 


1514
01:22:21,653 --> 01:22:27,467
these clips with the soundtrack 
of like, oh man, Christmas. 
 

1515
01:22:27,475 --> 01:22:30,840
Before. 
This this is the saddest thing 


1516
01:22:30,848 --> 01:22:32,300
you've ever heard? 
Yeah. 
 

1517
01:22:32,308 --> 01:22:35,628
And they're, it's just weird. 
It's like, this was a good time.

1518
01:22:35,628 --> 01:22:36,440

 
Like fuck you, editors. 

1519
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:39,480
As if they didn't fucking shoot 
 the show and show us what they 

1520
01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:42,760
had shot. 
 
It's just like, I don't know, 

1521
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,400
these editors are nuts. 
 
Like they must be nuts. 

1522
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,800
Well, they think we're idiots, 

and most people are, and we are,

1523
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,200
but we're not that dumb. 
 
No, we remember this Christmas. 

1524
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,840
It reminds me it was better than

 most of my Christmases as a 

1525
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:55,160
child. 
 
I. 

1526
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,160
Know like I was jealous of that 
 Christmas. 

1527
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,240
I was jealous of that Brown 
 
family Christmas I. 

1528
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:02,480
Was you know. 
 
Yes. 

1529
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,803
If I could just stay at a chalet

 for Christmas, I'd be so 

1530
01:23:06,803 --> 01:23:08,788
happy. 
Oh well, one of these days, 
 

1531
01:23:08,796 --> 01:23:12,295
honey, we will. 
We'll record an episode from a 


1532
01:23:12,303 --> 01:23:16,096
chalet on a hillside and we will
be like we are like the Browns 


1533
01:23:16,104 --> 01:23:17,938
in the chalet. 
We will. 
 

1534
01:23:17,946 --> 01:23:23,540
Hold our own cult following 
gathering at a chalet up in the 

1535
01:23:23,540 --> 01:23:26,320
 mountains for the deadbeat 
loser family. 
 

1536
01:23:26,328 --> 01:23:27,520
Yes. 
We should. 
 

1537
01:23:27,528 --> 01:23:30,450
That's our goal, cult. 
This is a good idea. 
 

1538
01:23:30,458 --> 01:23:33,088
A good goal. 
If you guys want us to start a 


1539
01:23:33,096 --> 01:23:36,135
cult, please leave us a comment 
telling us that we should start 

1540
01:23:36,135 --> 01:23:38,592
 a cult circle. 
Encourage others to join our 
 

1541
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,140
cult once it started. 
Of course, now we're not going 


1542
01:23:41,148 --> 01:23:42,921
to be like the Browns. 
We're actually going to be on 
 

1543
01:23:42,929 --> 01:23:44,968
top of this. 
It's actually going to happen. 


1544
01:23:44,976 --> 01:23:49,160
As you look me in the eye and 
just like, just shit yourself. 


1545
01:23:49,168 --> 01:23:51,440
We'd have to stumble into 
starting a cult. 
 

1546
01:23:51,448 --> 01:23:53,384
Well, never. 
Never say never. 
 

1547
01:23:53,392 --> 01:23:55,754
I mean. 
I could quit all of my other 
 

1548
01:23:55,762 --> 01:23:59,386
ambitions and just do the cult. 
There are times when I truly do 

1549
01:23:59,386 --> 01:24:03,020
 wonder why I am such great 
friends with the largest member 

1550
01:24:03,020 --> 01:24:05,907
 of the manosphere, and perhaps 
it's cult vibes. 
 

1551
01:24:05,915 --> 01:24:09,401
Are you saying that I have 
natural leader vibes? 
 

1552
01:24:09,409 --> 01:24:11,716
I think that's what I just 
heard. 
 

1553
01:24:11,724 --> 01:24:16,392
I think I heard that I should be
the leader of A this I'm I'm I'm

1554
01:24:16,392 --> 01:24:18,695

 getting it. 
This is my Christmas in July 
 

1555
01:24:18,703 --> 01:24:21,344
gift to myself. 
I'm starting a cult. 
 

1556
01:24:21,352 --> 01:24:24,100
Perfect. 
To wrap up this episode, 
 

1557
01:24:24,108 --> 01:24:27,128
Christine tells us that plural 
families can't buy homes 
 

1558
01:24:27,136 --> 01:24:29,720
together. 
It's just not done. 
 

1559
01:24:29,728 --> 01:24:35,361
And Kody says we found a way. 
And Christine responds. 
 

1560
01:24:35,369 --> 01:24:40,363
It's a miracle. 
Kody says we found a way to 
 

1561
01:24:40,371 --> 01:24:43,992
exist in a plural family in a 
monogamous world. 
 

1562
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,920
And that's how we wrap up the 
Christmas in July. 
 

1563
01:24:46,928 --> 01:24:50,398
I mean, excuse me, Christmas in 
January episode from the Browns.

1564
01:24:50,398 --> 01:24:52,840

 
But the most exciting thing of 

1565
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:59,440
all was the next episode. 
 
Coming up on I got. 

1566
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,760
Up on at the end. 
 
I got a little chubby you guys. 

1567
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,560
I'm really excited. 
 
I got to head some blood flowing

1568
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,080
to my previously caramel covered

 body parts. 

1569
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,280
I can't remember what the first 
 part was, but the second part 

1570
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:15,440
was Robyn standing in a family 

room wearing a dress that it 

1571
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:17,680
looks like a Laura Ingalls 
 
Wilder school. 

1572
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:23,360
Teacher a floral silkish skirt 

and a long sleeve black shirt 

1573
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,840
with another long sleeve sweater

 over it. 

1574
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,160
Yes, and when she says skirt she

 means like ankle length. 

1575
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,360
Ankle length skirt like. 
 
Curtains. 

1576
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:37,200
She is not looking like a 16 
 
year old Aeropostale pusher. 

1577
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:43,200
She is looking like a purity 
 
speech busher. 

1578
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,360
Purity Pusher. 
 
Purity busher, yes. 

1579
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,520
You guys, it's an episode we've 
 all been waiting for and we're 

1580
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,040
very excited about. 
 
I'm titillated, my caramel is 

1581
01:25:55,040 --> 01:26:00,920
wet, and I'm ready to hear Robyn

 talk about her purity. 

1582
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:07,880
How do we go from white wedding 
 night negligee over a long 

1583
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,560
sleeve top? 
 
This. 

1584
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,160
Yeah, she looks like a Sunday 
 
school teacher. 

1585
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,360
Well, they are in church in 
 
their, you know, family room 

1586
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,000
because there's no real church, 
 because it's a cult. 

1587
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:22,160
And she's there to spread the 
 
gospel, not spread her legs. 

1588
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,440
The opposite. 
 
Get that caramel wet enough to 

1589
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:28,960
tack those legs together and 
 
keep your purity intact. 

1590
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:34,040
I am imagining Kody treating his

 home like a true church now 

1591
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:38,108
and having spotlights up top 
that 
 Hunter and Logan have to 

1592
01:26:38,108 --> 01:26:40,680
be in charge of. 
 
And he's like, when the lights 

1593
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,200
are on me, No, no, look at me, 

look at me, look at me. 

1594
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,400
When the lights are on me, I am 
 a different person. 

1595
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,440
I am your prophet, Kody Brown. 

I am not Dad the. 

1596
01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:52,680
Prophet from the Brown family 
 
cul-de-sac. 

1597
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,400
I mean, what else would a 
 
narcissist do? 

1598
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,040
It's really moving to me. 
 
Touching, in fact. 

1599
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,360
It mirrors. 
 
What I'm going to do is starting

1600
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:04,480
a cult. 
 
Speaking of Janelle's sweet wet 

1601
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,920
caramel, it's time for mustard 

seed and shit stain. 

1602
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,280
And our mustard seed, rather 
 
than just being a seed put into 

1603
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,040
the ground, will be a caramel 
 
covered mustard seed this 

1604
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,360
episode. 
 
And you know, ladies first, of 

1605
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:24,840
course. 
 
My caramel covered mustard seed 

1606
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:31,680
is going to go to. 
 
I am going to give it to Kody. 

1607
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,680
Hey, hold on, brace yourself. 
 
I need something to hold on OK. 

1608
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:47,400
I believe Kody stepping in to 
 
speak to Leon in obviously a 

1609
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:53,560
time of distress for Meri and 
 
Leon was the right choice. 

1610
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,840
Yeah. 
 
And I think a dad in the similar

1611
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:00,947
situation might have ignored it,

 might have let the mom and 

1612
01:28:00,947 --> 01:28:05,560
child go at it when stepping in 
was 
 the right decision. 

1613
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,760
And that's a little ahead of his

 time, honestly, Yeah. 

1614
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,840
Yeah. 
 
Because men are just not as in 

1615
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:23,200
tuned to their children's like 

micro emotions or there's this 

1616
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:29,400
built in innate thing. 
 
I feel like with moms that's 

1617
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,920
hard to explain. 
 
And you just kind of are attuned

1618
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,120
to what your child needs. 
 
And it can either be super 

1619
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,640
overwhelming, like Meri was 
 
obviously overwhelmed with her 

1620
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:44,440
emotions for Leon and kind of 
 
feeding on it and like 

1621
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,840
replicating it because they're 

both in the same situation. 

1622
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,800
They're both dealing with 
 
trauma, just in a different way.

1623
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,520
Trauma, I'm going to say as how 
 they're viewing it. 

1624
01:28:55,040 --> 01:29:00,000
So they're both going through a 
 big life thing and they're, you

1625
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,280
know, Meri doesn't have the 
 
right coping skills. 

1626
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,240
So how can Meri show Leon the 
 
right coping skills? 

1627
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:12,080
And Kody, I don't know if it's 

that he was smart enough to 

1628
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,440
recognize this or he is just 
 
used to having to deal with this

1629
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:17,800
with Leon and Meri so much, 
 
which is what it seems like. 

1630
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:22,840
But I applaud Kody for 
 
recognizing that tumultuousness 

1631
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:27,400
that was like just going to get 
 worse and worse and worse and 

1632
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:32,400
stepping in and actually being a

 dad and handling it. 

1633
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,160
Whether or not the way he 
 
handled it was particularly 

1634
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,480
great is beside like the point 

for what I'm. 

1635
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:44,120
Making. 
 
But given the religion, given 

1636
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,480
the history, given the 
 
vocabulary that the family still

1637
01:29:47,480 --> 01:29:53,800
uses, I think that this was a 
 
bit out there for him and I 

1638
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:58,280
think it was good to see it. 
 
For me, it felt a little bit 

1639
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,400
like Kody was almost reacting 
 
out of frustration. 

1640
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,040
You know what I mean? 
 
Like, I think he might have just

1641
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,200
been because that's what I self 
 identified with. 

1642
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,080
It's like, I've had enough. 
 
I don't want to hear this 

1643
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,240
anymore. 
 
Just let's fucking do something 

1644
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,280
other than what you're doing. 
 
And so I think there might be an

1645
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,480
element of that, but I don't 
 
disagree with what you're 

1646
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:17,960
saying. 
 
I mean, it is one of the first 

1647
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,480
times we see Kody step up and 
 
actually try to handle something

1648
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:24,800
with one of the kids that isn't 
 just discipline because it's 

1649
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,520
usually the things we've seen, 

you know, as Dad's not around. 

1650
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,360
I need your help to discipline 

the kids or to keep them in 

1651
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,080
line. 
 
And while this is somewhat 

1652
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,440
keeping Leon in line, it didn't 
 rub me the wrong way. 

1653
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,880
No, I think there's probably a 

few elements that are 

1654
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:43,480
contributing to why Kody decided

 to speak with Leon alone. 

1655
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:49,600
But I think for the most part, 

if it was out of anger, it would

1656
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,600
have been handled differently 
 
because we've seen him handle 

1657
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,280
some of the other children with 
 anger. 

1658
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,680
We saw it recently with 
 
Janelle's boys when Christine 

1659
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,240
was over there with her kids 
 
too. 

1660
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,720
And we saw him get frustrated 
 
and we saw him hit sit down and 

1661
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,360
literally like huffing and 
 
puffing about the situation. 

1662
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:12,994
And the way that he handled the 
 situation with Leon and Meri 

1663
01:31:12,994 --> 01:31:16,790
was like, a lot smoother and a 
lot 
 either practiced because 

1664
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:21,302
he's been down that road with 
them 
 before, or just calmer 

1665
01:31:21,302 --> 01:31:25,399
because he understood what 
needed to be 
 done and was 

1666
01:31:25,399 --> 01:31:27,360
like, OK, just step back. 
 
I got this. 

1667
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:28,360
Yeah. 
 
So. 

1668
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,760
Listen, I mean, you're giving a 
 mustard seed to Kody. 

1669
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:34,440
I know. 
 
And I'm not disagreeing so. 

1670
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:39,499
I am picking purely on this one 
 instance because it stuck out 

1671
01:31:39,499 --> 01:31:42,920
to me just because it's so 
 
different from what we know of 

1672
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,560
Kody, yeah. 
 
So I feel that. 

1673
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:49,720
Well, my mustard seed this 
 
episode, this Christmas episode 

1674
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:56,400
goes to one Janelle Brown 
 
because I enjoyed that she said 

1675
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,480
to us, you know, I'm actually 
 
surprisingly looking forward to 

1676
01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:02,840
this caramel cook off thing. 
 
And it's because she had a 

1677
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:07,075
secret weapon, her mom there to 
 help her and she had a couple 

1678
01:32:07,075 --> 01:32:09,680
of cracks. 
 
I always love that when she's 

1679
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:14,320
doing the family mission 
 
statement work, she's always has

1680
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:18,320
a comment like, the end is not 

insight or like, I'm just here 

1681
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,200
trying to make it through, you 

know? 

1682
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:24,120
And I love that because, yeah, 

it's it is a business thing. 

1683
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,600
It's not, you know, families 
 
have mission statements. 

1684
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,240
You know, it is what it is. 
 
How many working sessions do you

1685
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:30,880
need? 
 
Clearly a lot. 

1686
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,760
And I just thought that she was 
 funny this episode. 

1687
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,440
I enjoyed her laughter. 
 
And I just liked watching her 

1688
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:39,520
family continue to fill the 
 
house and whatever. 

1689
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,400
So I think that Janelle gets my 
 mustard seed for this episode. 

1690
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,680
Janelle and Christine are a lot 
 alike. 

1691
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,564
Can you see Christine make funny

 comments like, I'm not into 

1692
01:32:48,564 --> 01:32:51,520
the my sister's closet. 
 
Oh, my God, These meetings, if I

1693
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,800
show up and I'm not yawning, 
 
you're lucky, like. 

1694
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:59,720
And Janelle, when she gets out 

of her shell, does the same type

1695
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:00,840
of humor. 
 
Yeah. 

1696
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:05,120
And so it's just kind of 
 
unfortunate that things had to 

1697
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,840
play out the way that they did 

because you can tell that they 

1698
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,807
could have been allies together.

 

1699
01:33:09,815 --> 01:33:11,147
Yeah. 
Yeah. 
 

1700
01:33:11,155 --> 01:33:13,200
And eventually they do become 
that. 
 

1701
01:33:13,208 --> 01:33:15,620
But yes, there's. 
But I I don't know that. 
 

1702
01:33:15,628 --> 01:33:18,509
Well, right and Kody pens them 
against each other the whole 9 


1703
01:33:18,517 --> 01:33:22,281
yards. 
Now it's time for our caramel 
 

1704
01:33:22,289 --> 01:33:26,540
centered shit stains. 
That doesn't make sense. 
 

1705
01:33:26,548 --> 01:33:28,772
Shit stain centered caramels, 
yes. 
 

1706
01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:31,837
Oh, caramels with a little shit 
stain on the outside. 
 

1707
01:33:31,845 --> 01:33:33,930
So how do you shit stain this 
week? 
 

1708
01:33:33,938 --> 01:33:36,108
What are you going to do about 
that shit stain? 
 

1709
01:33:36,116 --> 01:33:38,588
Can I give it to Mona for 
leaving us? 
 

1710
01:33:38,596 --> 01:33:42,950
Oh, we can't send Mona off with 
a shit stain. 
 

1711
01:33:42,958 --> 01:33:46,240
Fine. 
I know, even though we are all 


1712
01:33:46,248 --> 01:33:51,783
collectively sad. 
My shit stain is going to go to 

1713
01:33:51,783 --> 01:33:54,440
 Meri. 
Good choice. 
 

1714
01:33:54,448 --> 01:34:00,002
It's because I think Meri hides 
things from Leon and let's Leon 

1715
01:34:00,002 --> 01:34:05,350
 get upset about things kind of 
out of selfishness and to 
 

1716
01:34:05,358 --> 01:34:12,144
console Leon. 
And on top of that, I think that

1717
01:34:12,144 --> 01:34:17,135

 Meri's just playing this like 
false victim throughout the last

1718
01:34:17,135 --> 01:34:21,601

 two episodes of not getting 
her house when it's a product of

1719
01:34:21,601 --> 01:34:24,440
her 
 own making. 
I don't know what to tell you. 


1720
01:34:24,448 --> 01:34:26,904
Like it seems like your 
paperwork was definitely in 
 

1721
01:34:26,912 --> 01:34:29,289
late. 
It didn't look as good as you 
 

1722
01:34:29,297 --> 01:34:32,802
made it out to be. 
You invited your mom here before

1723
01:34:32,802 --> 01:34:35,868

 even having a moving date to 
help you move. 
 

1724
01:34:35,876 --> 01:34:39,958
Inferring to Leon that it was 
other people's fault or no they 

1725
01:34:39,958 --> 01:34:42,482
 know how to do their job 
instead of correcting like. 
 

1726
01:34:42,490 --> 01:34:45,415
It's not that they don't know 
how to do their job, like 
 

1727
01:34:45,423 --> 01:34:49,040
passing the blame. 
Passing the blame in a very 
 

1728
01:34:49,048 --> 01:34:51,232
backhanded way. 
Like Leon doesn't understand 
 

1729
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,795
their jobs, so Leon doesn't get 
that they're doing their jobs. 


1730
01:34:54,803 --> 01:34:57,454
Like that's bullshit. 
I don't even know how else to 
 

1731
01:34:57,462 --> 01:34:59,580
explain it. 
It's bull shirt as. 
 

1732
01:34:59,588 --> 01:35:01,760
Well, it's bull shirt. 
Listen, Meri, that shit stain's 

1733
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,400
 been building up for a hot 
minute. 
 

1734
01:35:03,408 --> 01:35:07,300
Meri has been smearing that 
stain all around for episodes 
 

1735
01:35:07,308 --> 01:35:11,120
now. 
And I almost forgot Meri and 
 

1736
01:35:11,128 --> 01:35:15,064
Robyn teaming up about this 
caramel thing. 
 

1737
01:35:15,072 --> 01:35:21,610
Oh yeah, and Meri's comment 
about how lying is OK as long as

1738
01:35:21,610 --> 01:35:23,840

 you're honest later or 
whatever. 

1739
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:31,280
The gist of that comment is very

 Mormon. 

1740
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,640
It's very hide it until it blows

 up in your face. 

1741
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,360
Right. 
 
Yeah, it's almost like she lied 

1742
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,240
about having a caramel allergy 

or something. 

1743
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,040
It's just disturbing. 
 
That dirty whore. 

1744
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,120
Well, my should stain this 
 
episode goes to her partner in 

1745
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,360
crime, the one who could never 

be a shoplifter because she's 

1746
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,200
too bad at lying and she's just 
 too giddy and she's just 

1747
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,120
laughing like an out of control 
 schoolgirl. 

1748
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,680
And that would be Robyn Brown. 

Robyn should stain Brown. 

1749
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:02,920
The Robyn. 
 
Alice Brown. 

1750
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,680
Oh, excuse me, Alice. 
 
That's right, Her legal name is 

1751
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:10,600
finally there. 
 
It's finally Robyn Alice Brown 

1752
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,520
changing her last name for the 

4th or 5th time. 

1753
01:36:14,440 --> 01:36:16,360
Yeah, that's a little shit 
 
stainy to me. 

1754
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,840
That's just purely based on 
 
trying to give Robyn a shit 

1755
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,320
stain. 
 
Of course, I don't really care 

1756
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,640
about people's last names 
 
changing. 

1757
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,520
Purely based on the fact that 
 
she was probably trying to 

1758
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,600
commit fraud again and avoid 
 
credit card debt. 

1759
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,000
Well, this is it. 
 
Fraudulent, Fraudulent Robyn. 

1760
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,280
Allegedly. 
 
Allegedly, of course. 

1761
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,560
And that laughter was just 
 
unbearable. 

1762
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,280
The giddy, giddy, giddy. 
 
I'm a 13 year old having fun 

1763
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,320
with my friend. 
 
It was like, bitch, you're a 

1764
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,040
fucking grown ass woman. 
 
This is insane. 

1765
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,720
I mean, when you and I laugh 
 
like that, it's not because 

1766
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,200
we're at a store buying caramels

 to trick our your husband. 

1767
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,160
No your husband, no your. 
 
Husband. 

1768
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,720
And you're thinking our caramels

 are from his mother? 

1769
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,103
I mean, the entire thing is just

 not really that funny or cool 

1770
01:36:59,103 --> 01:37:01,520
or interesting. 
 
And she made it seem like they 

1771
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,160
were having the time of their 
 
lives. 

1772
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,400
It was full of second hand 
 
embarrassment for me. 

1773
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:10,920
It made me think that Meri and 

her had had some drinks 

1774
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,664
beforehand and Meri could handle

 her alcohol and Robyn 

1775
01:37:14,664 --> 01:37:15,950
couldn't. 
Oh yeah. 
 

1776
01:37:15,958 --> 01:37:19,010
It felt like a teenage girl 
drinking for the first time with

1777
01:37:19,010 --> 01:37:23,584

 her friends. 
Or just someone who doesn't 
 

1778
01:37:23,592 --> 01:37:27,568
understand reality and thinks 
that stupid situations are 
 

1779
01:37:27,576 --> 01:37:30,704
funny. 
Like the whole thing just didn't

1780
01:37:30,704 --> 01:37:33,218

 make sense laughing that 
fucking hard. 
 

1781
01:37:33,226 --> 01:37:37,700
It was cool and it was real and 
it was weird and I'm 
 

1782
01:37:37,708 --> 01:37:41,622
preemptively giving her part of 
my should stain because of our 


1783
01:37:41,630 --> 01:37:44,060
coming up on with her future 
purity speech. 
 

1784
01:37:44,068 --> 01:37:48,180
Although we haven't heard it, it
is definitely giving me a 
 

1785
01:37:48,188 --> 01:37:53,462
sneeiry taste in my mouth. 
And then kissing Kody like a 
 

1786
01:37:53,470 --> 01:37:56,716
wanton slut in front of her 
sister wives on Christmas 
 

1787
01:37:56,724 --> 01:38:00,532
morning after giving him her 
fraudulent, I mean real Social 


1788
01:38:00,540 --> 01:38:04,070
Security card. 
It just was inappropriate and I 

1789
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:06,300
 would never do anything like 
that. 
 

1790
01:38:06,308 --> 01:38:10,440
Obviously I am a woman of Joseph
Smith teachings and I would 
 

1791
01:38:10,448 --> 01:38:14,880
never do anything like that. 
Oh my goodness. 
 

1792
01:38:14,888 --> 01:38:17,922
Yep. 
Our Keep Sweet Moment this week 

1793
01:38:17,922 --> 01:38:22,032
 is another entry from our 
Season 6 Episode 1 giveaway for 

1794
01:38:22,032 --> 01:38:25,866
some 
 beautifully handcrafted 
towels that the spirit of Meri 


1795
01:38:25,874 --> 01:38:29,360
protruded into your body to make
or entered in something. 
 

1796
01:38:29,368 --> 01:38:33,332
Projected in my dreams. 
Projected into your dreams, This

1797
01:38:33,332 --> 01:38:37,069

 is it. 
And this entry comes to us from 

1798
01:38:37,069 --> 01:38:44,234
 a YouTube submission from Magna
M2, Magna Magma Magma M21819 and

1799
01:38:44,234 --> 01:38:51,245

 Magma Mag and Magda and Magda 
M 21819. 
 

1800
01:38:51,253 --> 01:38:55,336
I'm just going to tell you guys 
to go back to. 
 

1801
01:38:55,344 --> 01:38:59,380
Oh yeah, go back and look. 
Entries and look and you'll 
 

1802
01:38:59,388 --> 01:39:01,949
obviously know who we're talking
about and we appreciate it a 
 

1803
01:39:01,957 --> 01:39:02,652
lot. 
Absolutely. 
 

1804
01:39:02,660 --> 01:39:06,709
I'm sorry that I can't read. 
I'm a little like Robyn right 
 

1805
01:39:06,717 --> 01:39:10,302
now. 
This user insert name says the 


1806
01:39:10,310 --> 01:39:14,116
shit stain is Robyn for trying 
to launch their polygamous 
 

1807
01:39:14,124 --> 01:39:17,944
centric business at a convention
in Saint George where even she 


1808
01:39:17,952 --> 01:39:22,265
admits they hate polygamous. 
It's about as ridiculous as 
 

1809
01:39:22,273 --> 01:39:24,312
trying to sell steak at a vegan 
convention. 
 

1810
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:28,300
Which is very true. 
Their mustard seed goes to 
 

1811
01:39:28,308 --> 01:39:31,268
Christine for her blatant 
honesty and good support during 

1812
01:39:31,268 --> 01:39:33,126
 my sister wife's closet 
meetings. 
 

1813
01:39:33,134 --> 01:39:36,596
And an honorable mention goes to
the woman at the convention that

1814
01:39:36,596 --> 01:39:39,696

 said she was going to get 
money and never came back. 
 

1815
01:39:39,704 --> 01:39:43,500
Oh, when she told Robyn I'm 
going to go to the bank to get 


1816
01:39:43,508 --> 01:39:46,694
some cash and then never 
returned, that was a beautiful 


1817
01:39:46,702 --> 01:39:50,000
moment. 
Absolutely thank you Magna 
 

1818
01:39:50,008 --> 01:39:53,840
M21819 for your submission. 
We greatly appreciate it. 
 

1819
01:39:53,848 --> 01:39:57,560
Thank you again to everyone who 
left your mustard seeds and shit

1820
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:59,818

 stains on our first episode of
season 6. 
 

1821
01:39:59,826 --> 01:40:03,936
We loved reading your mustard 
seeds and we even more enjoyed 


1822
01:40:03,944 --> 01:40:07,543
reading your shit stains. 
Of course, as as the world turns

1823
01:40:07,543 --> 01:40:10,255

 as is. 
How one operates as someone 
 

1824
01:40:10,263 --> 01:40:13,580
allergic to caramel. 
It was really fun and I hope 
 

1825
01:40:13,588 --> 01:40:16,330
that everybody keeps putting 
their shit stains and mustard 
 

1826
01:40:16,338 --> 01:40:20,325
seeds on the comments of the 
platform that they listen on 
 

1827
01:40:20,333 --> 01:40:24,670
because it makes me laugh out 
loud and I like to laugh out 
 

1828
01:40:24,678 --> 01:40:26,540
loud. 
Don't like Robyn? 
 

1829
01:40:26,548 --> 01:40:31,775
Don't like to laugh out loud as 
much as a 1 Robyn Brown does? 
 

1830
01:40:31,783 --> 01:40:35,280
I love that if people just 
started leaving their mustard 
 

1831
01:40:35,288 --> 01:40:38,470
seeds and shit stains on every 
episode that would be so fun to 

1832
01:40:38,470 --> 01:40:39,868
 read. 
It would be so fun. 
 

1833
01:40:39,876 --> 01:40:43,220
That would be great. 
We are going to be your new 
 

1834
01:40:43,228 --> 01:40:45,280
prophets. 
Don't worry everyone, we'll give

1835
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,200

 you future instructions. 
Please continue to listen.

