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What does the nanny do? 
 
OK, so we're done. 

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Goodbye. 
 
You shut it off. 

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Do not twist my words. 
 
Do not make me a victim, 

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sweetie. 
 
Just look at the mountain. 

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That's what you saw. 
 
That day, just the knife in the 

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kidneys over all these years and

 the sacrifices that I made to 

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love you. 
 
Welcome back, valued listeners, 

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to Part 2 of What Episode Are We

 On Kimber? 

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Season 5, Episode 7 Pilgrimage 

into the Past. 

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Polygamous pilgrimage into the 

past. 

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Yes. 
 
Polygamous pilgrimage into the 

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past. 
 
Absolutely success. 

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So Meri lets us know that we're 
 only 250 miles to our 

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destination today, so we're on 

day four of our road trip. 

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Last travel day. 
 
She made it very clear that they

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were front heavy on their miles 
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easy breezy. 
 
Beautiful cover girl. 

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Which is like yay, well 
 
literally yay. 

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Christine's like yay and claps 

like an imbecile and I'm like 

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cool. 
 
She's like a wind up little 

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monkey toy. 
 
Great for Christine. 

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Kody's excited. 
 
He thinks that they're actually 

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going to be able to enjoy the 
 
day today. 

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Ah well. 
 
Maybe they will, darling. 

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Where are they going to make 
 
their stop? 

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On the way, though? 
 
They're not going directly to 

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their destination. 
 
They're going to make a stop 

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somewhere, and I believe the 
 
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Hannibal, MO And they're going 

to the Mark Twain Boyhood Home 

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and Museum. 
 
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I really want to emphasize 
 
boyhood and I will continue to 

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emphasize boyhood and 
 
reemphasize boyhood because I'm 

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like, who uses the term boyhood?

 

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It's so archaic now. 
I guess we are talking about 
 

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things that are old and archaic 
and made-up and stupid. 
 

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So, OK, but boyhood, Why isn't 
it just childhood? 
 

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Their childhood home, Mark 
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 home, everything's boyhood. 
The places that we're going, 
 

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they're going to talk about the 
men as their boyhood homes 
 

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repeatedly. 
And it's like, maybe it's just 


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because I'm too woke and we're 
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specific. 
Well, I think that it's because 

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 Mark Twain was trans in his 
later life. 
 

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Oh, he became a woman? 
Yes. 
 

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Oh, she became a woman. 
Excuse me? 
 

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I know many women named Mark 
too. 
 

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So it works for both genders. 
Well, we meet our tour guide and

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 he has an interesting name. 
Henry Sweets. 
 

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And they do call him something 
else. 
 

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Maybe he's earned a degree of 
some sorts or somehow. 
 

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I don't think he, you know, 
helps women give birth or takes 

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 care of children, but you never
know. 
 

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Doctor Sweets? 
Dr. Sweets? 
 

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I'm guessing he has a doctorate 
in Mark Twain mythology or 
 

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history. 
Mark Twain's boyhood home, 
 

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curator of the museum. 
That is who Henry Sweet says. 
 

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Why do we have to keep saying 
boyhood? 
 

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Well, apparently important, 
yeah. 
 

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You know, it was what they said 
back then. 
 

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So we can't wash over it with 
our mentality. 
 

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Right. 
Well, what would it be for a 
 

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girl? 
Her girlhood home? 
 

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Yeah. 
Oh, really? 
 

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Yeah, well, that's. 
What they say about like, Little

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 House on the Prairie, whatever
girlhood. 
 

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Oh, whatever, right? 
Mark Twain travelled through the

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 Utah Territory during the 
height of Mormon polygamy. 
 

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Dr. Sweets lets us know. 
And he lets us in on a journal 


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entry of Mark Twain's. 
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 needed to read this out loud to
the Browns. 
 

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And I'm going to let you just 
take it away here. 
 

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When he's traveling through the 
Utah Territory, he takes note 
 

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about polygamous women from his 
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Lake City. 
Gathered a lot in two days, he 


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says. 
I was touched. 
 

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OK everyone, this is Mark Twain.
This is not Chris, allegedly. 
 

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Well, the first sentence was is 
me. 
 

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I was touched. 
Oh, maybe I should take a little

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Add little moose bushes in here 

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 and. 
There I was touched in my nether

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 regions, these poor, ungainly 
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creatures. 
The man that marries one of them

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 has done his act of Christian 
charity and the man who has 
 

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married 60 of them has done a 
deed of open hearted generosity 

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 so sublime that the nation 
should stand uncovered in his 
 

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presence and worship. 
Silence. 
 

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Now I'm you know, I'm not the 
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and his ramblings or her 
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But apparently Mark Twain was 
 

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touched enough by the men who 
were generous enough to marry 
 

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these homely, ugly women, so he 
thought they were ugly. 
 

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The men are doing these ugly 
women a favor, and it was an act

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 of Christian charity that the 
men even married more than one. 

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Yeah, you know, what are you 

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going to do? 
 
Listen, ugly women exist. 

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I don't know what to say. 
 
We're here, we're ugly, we're 

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proud, God. 
 
Ugly people rise ugly. 

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People rise up. 
 
You know, I feel like I could go

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on a little bit of a tangent 
 
right now about most of the 

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polygamist women I've seen in 
 
television shows and specials 

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and documentaries, but it might 
 be considered crass. 

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Some women might say, Chris, you

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To that I would say he did go to

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the other week and I was like 
what? 
 

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You don't believe that women 
have the right to vote? 
 

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And we got into it. 
We did. 
 

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I can't believe you brought up 
that I went to this anti women's

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 voting rights rally. 
It's just I knew where to find 


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it. 
You did. 
 

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I knew it existed. 
I was. 
 

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I was subscribed. 
I said let me know. 
 

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It was at the shooting range out
in Timbuktu of nowhere. 
 

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It was it was near boyhood 
hometown. 
 

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It was near Nauvoo. 
It was really, it was crazy. 
 

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I had to travel in an RV with 
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You know, I'm very, I'm very big

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in the Manaverse, obviously. 
 
Oh, the women are super offended

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by this. 
 
Well, this is it. 

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We go to the couch for them to 

talk about it and Kody cracks a 

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joke about how some polygamous 

women are pretty, including his 

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wives. 
 
And of course the women rib him 

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for putting his foot in his 
 
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And what does he say? 
 
What does Christine say? 

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Oh my gosh, she's like, you're 

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and downtrodden. 
 
That's right, because he's like,

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I'm not offended. 
 
And it's like, well, no, they're

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not the one being called ugly 
 
and downtrodden. 

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You're the one being called semi

 God. 

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I don't think that was said, but

 OK, yeah. 

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Well, I mean, he's, you know, he

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of people. 
 
He's, you know, Christian blah 

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blah, done his Christian doings.

 

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He acts like a Oh my God. 
Yeah. 
 

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And of course, you know, 
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you're not offended. 
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
 

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And Kody says this must have 
been a reference to other 
 

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polygamist women. 
Because my wives are all 
 

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beautiful. 
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He did start on fire. 
They all laugh. 
 

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And this was a moment that I 
loved because Janelle caught my 

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during all of their couch 
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Like it's been so cute. 
Like there are times where she 


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just seems so disengaged. 
She's just kind of looking off 


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into wherever. 
And it kind of started that way 

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everything and I feel like she's

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ribbing Kody. 
 

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But also kind of the 
ridiculousness of it all. 
 

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Like Janelle's probably the 
smartest of them. 
 

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I'm guessing that's subjective, 
but I think she kind of. 
 

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Even though that's hard to say 
when she's dedicated her life to

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 this idiotic idea. 
So take that. 
 

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I'm trying to put the toothpaste
back in the tube. 
 

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I don't think you can do that. 
It's just fun to see your let 
 

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her hair down and laugh like I'm
like thank you Janelle. 
 

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Oh my gosh. 
Yeah, she is chuckling along. 
 

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She's not really contributing 
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she is kind of chuckling along, 

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 which is better than the dead 
stare or the laser eyes where 
 

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in a few of the most recent 
episodes. 
 

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Another thing I noticed was that
Kody's hair is styled with a 
 

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moderate Keith Urban look, and 
I'm wondering if this is our 
 

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first time seeing this look from
him. 
 

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Have we referenced his Keith 
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Well, he flips it under 
sometimes like he's a soccer 
 

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mom. 
Yeah. 
 

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And this one, it was like had 
like a slight wave and then out.

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And I was like, I feel like it's

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He's trying to be contemporary 

Keith Urbanish. 

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I'm too distracted by his 
 
sunburn and his no sunburn. 

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I don't know why he's always so 
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It's like, Oh my gosh, put a hat

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It's all of that work he's doing

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That's right, he does love some 

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Digging in the dirt, digging in 

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the dirt. 
 
I think that he actually, a 

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couple times throughout this 
 
episode on the couch has changed

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looks. 
 
So I noticed at one point it was

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flipped under and then it very 

clearly is more Keith Urbanish 

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in other interviews. 
 
So these were definitely 

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recorded across different days 

for the commentary from them on 

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this trip. 
 
Absolutely, he definitely does 

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look different in multiple 
 
instances and one of them is 

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this new contemporary styling 
 
and I thought interesting. 

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I wonder if the fame is hitting 
 Kody Brown. 

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Well, it's interesting and I 
 
hope, I don't know if you mind 

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sharing this, but you know 
 
somebody that was on a reality 

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TV show and they had to keep 
 
their hairstyle from their first

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interview through the entire 
 
show, correct? 

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Like for every interview. 
 
Yeah, My friend was on a reality

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show. 
 
This is going to be the giveaway

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where they do a makeover. 
 
Yeah. 

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And so up until they do the 
 
makeover, you have to keep your 

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hair the same. 
 
And then at some point, they 

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even have you wear, like, hats 

and wraps and stuff, which is 

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super jarring as a person being 
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like, now I just look like an 
idiot. 
 

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But yeah, usually they try to 
have a continuity with that. 
 

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Yeah. 
But also, that is a, like, 
 

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elimination reality show. 
So I think it's a little more 
 

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about like, you know. 
That makes sense. 
 

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I don't know, but you would 
still think you'd want them to 


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be like, hey, you know, if 
you're going to talk about 
 

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things for the when you're 
talking about the same day, 
 

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yeah, please look the same. 
You would think so. 
 

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I have listened to some other 
like tell all type of things 
 

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where they're talking about, you
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the scenes interviews. 
And they will make them like 
 

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wear the same shirt, the same 
outfit over and over and over 
 

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again. 
And here you've got Kody's hair 

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 like blatantly in, out, in, 
out. 

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Like it's different. 
 
And same with Meri. 

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You know Meri's hair. 
 
Oh, Meri's hair is just 

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constantly changing things up. 

I don't even know. 

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Luckily, we just kind of move on

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Was there anything else about 
 
Miss Mark Twain's childhood or 

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boyhood home that you want to 
 
talk about? 

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Well, the women are kind of 
 
ragging on Kody, and they're 

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telling him that he should have 
 stood up for them. 

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And he's like, what was I going 
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Like, this is a quote from a 
 
long time ago. 

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And then he says some silly 
 
things and he was like, shakes 

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his first at the camera and gets

 really fake and goes, Mark 

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Twain, you bastard, shut up and 
 shakes his first. 

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And he's, like, obviously joking

 about defending the women and,

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like, mocking what he would say.

 

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And then Christine goes, that's 
all you had to say. 
 

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Like she really thought that he 
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 Sweets and defended him. 
Like OK. 
 

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Well, what do you have said? 
The guy Doctor Sweets is talking

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 about dead misses Mark Twain. 
I mean, what was going to get to

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 defend their honor to this guy
who's like reading a quote? 
 

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I do find it funny that they 
read this at all. 
 

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I know that they weren't 
stopping at like a Mormon site, 

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 but they were stopping 
somewhere. 
 

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So they had to tie in the Mormon
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somehow. 
So obviously they picked this 
 

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quote as like a tie in to make 
it relevant for the show. 
 

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But don't you think that he 
probably had to give the 
 

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producers multiple options of 
quotes and that's the one they 


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chose? 
Probably. 
 

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Yeah, could be. 
Yeah, if I remember correctly. 


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Also, I hope it didn't already 
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 forgetting. 
But in the future, there's some 

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 reference to a piece, like a 
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painting, 
 and I think it might
be connected to Mark Twain, but 

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it 
 might not be. 
And it actually might be their 


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friend Chris, who owns the. 
Place that they're going to stay

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 at Harrah's Place. 
Yeah. 
 

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And the pawn shop. 
The pawn shop, yeah, there's 
 

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like a picture or a painting or 
a drawing or something of the 
 

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polygamist women. 
And they're all hideous, like 
 

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intentionally drawn to be, you 
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And then there's like the new 

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wife who's all like rich and 
 
spoiled and pretty. 

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And so I think that comes in the

 future. 

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And I, I, for some reason it's 

making me think Missus Mark 

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Twain, like maybe it's a drawing

 from one of his books or 

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something. 
 
OK. 

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So that must be coming up 
 
because we have not seen this 

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yet, but it's interesting 
 
because they're maybe teeing it 

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up or picked this quote for a 
 
reason. 

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Yeah, OK, that could possibly 
 
be. 

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So that's interesting to call 
 
out now. 

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I had no idea Missus Mark Twain 
 was so connected to the 

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polygamous culture. 
 
No, my, Oh my, misses Mark 

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Twain, you dirty birdie. 
 
Misses Mark Twain and her big 

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old knockers now. 
 
Do you have anything before they

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drive into Nabu, darling? 
 
Because we do eventually get to 

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Nabu, not Nabu. 
 
Nabu on the planet of Nabu in 

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Star Wars, that's where we're 
 
going. 

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I would prefer to have gone 
 
there with them, but. 

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We could call it Nabu, but that 
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insulting to the actual 
 
creativity of, you know, Star 

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Wars and Disney and whoever 
 
those people. 

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Were no, no, not to George 
 
Lucas. 

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Oh, that's right. 
 
Lucas Films, Yes, But when they 

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drive into Nauvoo, Kody's, you 

know, talking about, oh, we're 

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coming along the river and then 
 the road turns and then there's

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a field and then there's a 
 
building and it just smacks you 

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in the face. 
 
And I was like, it all looks a 

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little Midwest. 
 
Very Midwest. 

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I mean, it's glorious. 
 
We live in the Midwest. 

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I'm not trying to put it down, 

but it's a little like, OK, 

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yeah, you took a turn and then 

there was a building. 

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I don't know that it was really 
 all that, like the angels 

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weren't singing to me. 
 
The angels were singing to him 

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and Christine because she is 
 
ridiculously excited and getting

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goosebumps. 
 
She's such a. 

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Glory to God in the highest 
 
Christians getting goosebumps 

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again, Jesus. 
 
Oh man, oh wow, that's going to 

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be so I'm sorry you guys, I'm 
 
really sorry. 

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I just was moved by the Spirit, 
 the. 

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Spirit moved me. 
 
Totally. 

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I'm being moved by the spirit, 

man. 

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So nothing talked to you? 
 
Oh no, you were moved by the 

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spirit of Christine's 
 
whatnotness. 

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But did you experience anything 
 while seeing this footage of 

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them entering Nauvoo Darling? 
 
No, I just saw, you know, the 

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water on the left and they're 
 
coming around that river bend OR

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that water bend into Nauvoo. 
 
And glory to God in the highest,

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Our Jesus Savior is here and He 
 made this land that they are 

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about to step foot on. 
 
And this land is your land, and 

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this land is my. 
 
Land, and it was made for you 

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and me. 
 
Thank you. 

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You know, it's so weird to hear 
 people talking about Joseph 

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Smith, Brigham Young and others 
 when you weren't raised in 

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Mormonism. 
 
So this is where we're going, 

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right? 
 
We're going to Nauvoo. 

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We're going to hear about these 
 characters. 

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Apparently they were real 
 
people. 

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I don't know, whatever when you 
 weren't raised Mormon. 

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What I constantly think of and 

have flashbacks to is South Park

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episodes where they're like 
 
making fun of Mormonism, and 

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when they're like telling the 
 
story of Joseph Smith, Dum dum, 

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dum, dum dum. 
 
And then it's like dum, dum, 

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dum, dum, dum, dum, dum dum. 
 
Like the whole story is just 

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dum, dum, dum, dum dum. 
 
Like the whole thing is absurd. 

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I mean, there literally are two 
 religions that you can trace 

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the roots of and it is 
Scientology 
 and it is 

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Mormonism. 
And I just truly believe these 


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people are not the brightest. 
They're taking one person's word

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 1 like horny man's word that 
was moved by the spirit of God 

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and 
 he got a little twitch in 
his Wiener and he wanted more 

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wise. 
 
And even beyond that, like 

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Mormonism in general, like the 

finding of the tablet, the stone

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tablet and the writings and this

 and the that. 

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And it's like, you can literally

 trace it back to its origins. 

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And I kind of find it 
 
disturbing. 

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And it speaks to the human 
 
condition in general that we 

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just want to believe in 
 
something. 

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So you pick and choose what you 
 want to believe in. 

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I don't know. 
 
But community you want to be a 

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part of. 
 
And it's a little like fucked up

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to me, I mean. 
 
Well, and I've avoided talking 

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about Scientology because they 

go after you, you know, whatever

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that's called, there's a term 
 
for it. 

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L Ron Hubbard was like a failed 
 science fiction writer who was 

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injured, quote UN quote, but not

 really and created this 

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religion. 
 
Like it's weird that people and 

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when we talked about this 
 
before, the also counter to this

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delusional faith that is just 
 
kind of like if you have enough 

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rational thinking, you can just 
 kind of I don't want to say it 

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about all religions, but these 

religions specifically, it seems

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so obviously not true. 
 
And then the participants, the 

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followers, the whatever are just

 so pious and they are like 

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anyone who doesn't believe what 
 we believe are ridiculous. 

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Like I'm literally better than 

everybody and like they feel bad

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literally for other people. 
 
Like you just don't get it. 

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And it's like. 
 
No, you don't get it. 

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You literally are following the 
 doctrines and the covenants of 

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men that you can trace it back 

to, and they're listening to 

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their Ding dongs and they want 

to be laid more. 

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And so you're just going to 
 
believe that they were speaking 

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to God. 
 
Everyone has an inner voice, 

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right? 
 
I could say my inner voice is 

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God to me and be like, oh, I get

 to do whatever I want because 

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my inner voice God is telling 
me. 
 

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And people would be like, no, 
you're fucking nuts. 
 

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You're starting a cult. 
That's literally what this is. 


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It's just that it was like long 
enough ago. 
 

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So that people think like that 
it's OK enough to, I don't know,

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 follow it. 
But we're talking about Nauvoo, 

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 Illinois. 
I mean, we're talking about 
 

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people that literally like were 
around in contemporary enough 
 

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times that there was a newspaper
like what L Ron Hubbard was 
 

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alive? 
I don't even know, like a couple

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 decades ago. 
Like this is insane. 
 

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He wrote books, and he to this 
day, I think is the author 
 

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that's written the most books in
the world, and they're all 
 

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horseshit and they're all really
awful. 
 

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Like I don't know if you've ever
looked at them, but the writing 

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 is terrible. 
He just honestly wanted the 
 

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title of writing enough books to
outdo everyone else. 
 

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Because he's a man in a 
manosphere. 
 

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A delusion, I know well, I'm a 
big fan, I know. 
 

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You are. 
He didn't want women to vote 
 

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either. 
Unless they had tinfoil hats on,

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 then he wanted them to vote 
so. 

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As I said, I brought up Joseph 

Smith, Brigham Young and these 

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others. 
 
You know, there's some names 

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we're going to talk about. 
 
If you know him, you know him. 

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If you don't, you don't need to 
 know him. 

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But when the Brown family is 
 
arriving in Nauvoo, coming 

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around this riverbend and seeing

 a building, they arrive at 

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Hiram Smith's boyhood home, like

 another boyhood home. 

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We're just getting crushed by 
 
the boyhood homes in this 

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episode. 
 
I did not hear the boyhood home.

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I knew it was just Hiram Smith's

 home, but he was an adult when

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he lived there, I thought. 
 
Well, they're going when they 

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arrive. 
 
They arrive at his boyhood home.

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They might have gone to two 
 
different places. 

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I'm. 
 
Not quite sure. 

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OK. 
 
At this point is when I had to 

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rely more on you, honey, because

 I started to, you know, my 

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skin started turning inside out 
and 
 my eyes turned red and I 

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was like, I can't do this, my 
God. 
 

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And I said I can't be a 
historian about this crazy shit 

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 that doesn't matter. 
And you're like I can. 
 

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I wrote down a lot of the story 
because I'm I need to impart 
 

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this wisdom to our listeners 
ears. 
 

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I can't even make it through 
that one. 
 

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I've done a lot of my own quasi 
research. 
 

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I've listened to some books, 
I've watched some shows about, 


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you know, like the actual 
practices of Mormonism and 
 

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Mormonism and polygamy. 
Because I do just find it so 
 

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fascinating how these people can
believe this. 
 

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And I don't know. 
So yeah, we are going to Hiram 


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Smith's home. 
And this is where Christine just

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 kind of loses it and gets so 
excited that her kids are going 

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 to be playing on the lawn that 
Hiram and Joseph Smith's kids 
 

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played on, and they're going to 
be staying in the home that they

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 lived in. 
And then I looked at you and I 


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was like, is that an addition on
the historic home of Hiram 
 

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Smith? 
Blasphemy. 
 

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You're being generous. 
You didn't have to question it. 

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It was very obvious. 

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Yeah, it was like. 
 
A2 story brick structure that 

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obviously has been around for a 
 hundred 200 years. 

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I don't know. 
 
It's been there for a minute. 

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And then on the side of it is a 
 like mudroom slash garage 

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edition that's like vinyl 
 
siding. 

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It's an addition on to this 
 
historic home so that people 

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like the fucking Browns will pay

 money to stay there and these 

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giant families will come and pay

 money to this guy who owns it.

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Because in what reality? 
 
Like outside of Utah and this 

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area is just a historic home to 
 begin with. 

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Yeah, I wonder if it's on any 
 
registries. 

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It can't be with that edition. 

We were joking about how it 

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looks like one of those prefab 

things you buy from Home Depot 

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or Menards where it's like you 

get the whole kit for like 25 K.

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It's like what the fuck? 
 
Except for they threw like three

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of them together so it was long,

 so they could house polygamous

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families like the Browns and 
 
take their money. 

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Absolutely. 
 
So bizarre. 

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And we hear from Kody that the 

reason that I love Joseph Smith 

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is that his spirit speaks to me.

 

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And Kody was led to this 
beautiful family that he has now

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 because of Joseph Smith's 
teachings. 
 

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And Oh my God, like him and 
Christine in this scene are just

445
00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:43,272

 like yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck 
yuck yuck. 
 

446
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,370
It's a lot of what Joseph Smith 
rebelled now translation 
 

447
00:24:48,378 --> 00:24:51,340
revealed. 
But I love when they say the 
 

448
00:24:51,348 --> 00:24:54,417
word rebelled because it's like,
Oh my God that he didn't revolt,

449
00:24:54,417 --> 00:24:57,768

 He revealed and he revealed a 
lie and a fraud. 
 

450
00:24:57,776 --> 00:25:03,640
We see this lovely painting of 
Hiram Smith and he's holding 
 

451
00:25:03,648 --> 00:25:09,775
what looks like a bat or a like.
Club. 
 

452
00:25:09,783 --> 00:25:13,455
A Cricket Club like what is he 
holding? 
 

453
00:25:13,463 --> 00:25:18,564
I don't know what else to say 
about that, but they like gave 


454
00:25:18,572 --> 00:25:24,307
him a prop to hold in his 
painting and it's a little 
 

455
00:25:24,315 --> 00:25:26,638
ridiculous. 
Yeah, probably all of the kids 


456
00:25:26,646 --> 00:25:29,224
had to line up and get spankings
with the bat. 
 

457
00:25:29,232 --> 00:25:31,948
Well, this is it. 
God told them you have to beat 


458
00:25:31,956 --> 00:25:34,308
your wives and children. 
Jeez, oh boy. 
 

459
00:25:34,316 --> 00:25:37,904
And when that inner voice tells 
you to beat your wives and 
 

460
00:25:37,912 --> 00:25:39,590
children, you beat your wives 
and children. 
 

461
00:25:39,598 --> 00:25:42,696
I mean, because it's God 
obviously telling you, yeah. 
 

462
00:25:42,704 --> 00:25:46,920
We fade to night and we fade to 
mourning. 
 

463
00:25:46,928 --> 00:25:50,630
It's day five of our trip. 
We're finally in Nauvoo, which, 

464
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:53,664
 you know, obviously you guys 
all know it only took them four 

465
00:25:53,664 --> 00:25:57,909
days 
 to get there. 
Hallelu and we are going to meet

466
00:25:57,909 --> 00:26:03,300

 someone very, very special on 
day five, Someone who loves a 
 

467
00:26:03,308 --> 00:26:06,388
bowling shirt. 
He thinks he's Charlie Sheen and

468
00:26:06,388 --> 00:26:08,574

 2 1/2 Men. 
He does. 
 

469
00:26:08,582 --> 00:26:13,072
And no one should aspire to be 
Charlie Sheen or anything 
 

470
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,735
attached to 2 1/2 Men. 
This is just wrong. 
 

471
00:26:16,743 --> 00:26:21,780
But this family, they're going 
to be meeting Joseph Johnston. 


472
00:26:21,788 --> 00:26:25,908
Now, darling, how would you 
describe Joseph Johnston other 


473
00:26:25,916 --> 00:26:29,692
than a bowling shirt wearer? 
Well, Christine thinks he looks 

474
00:26:29,692 --> 00:26:31,188
 like Jesus. 
Oh, he does. 
 

475
00:26:31,196 --> 00:26:35,276
Look like that His locks are 
prettier than Kody's and she's 


476
00:26:35,284 --> 00:26:38,740
jealous of this shiny, 
glistening long hair. 
 

477
00:26:38,748 --> 00:26:43,432
He does have long hair. 
He does, I would not say look 
 

478
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,340
like Jesus. 
He has long hair and was wearing

479
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:53,152

 a red bowling shirt and he 
looks a little hippie dippy. 
 

480
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,194
Yeah. 
He's a member of the LDS church,

481
00:26:56,194 --> 00:26:58,367

 but not a member of their 
church. 
 

482
00:26:58,375 --> 00:27:02,041
He does not practice polygamy. 
Yeah, he just kind of looks like

483
00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:04,716

 a little bit of a hippie 
dippie, which is interesting 

484
00:27:04,716 --> 00:27:08,770
because 
 he's supposedly LDS. 
He has long dark hair, dark 
 

485
00:27:08,778 --> 00:27:12,702
brown hair. 
I would say like dirty blonde. 


486
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:17,032
OK, I'm the one that doesn't 
wear glasses of these two. 
 

487
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,664
No, if you were to put him on 
the scale of 10 being the 
 

488
00:27:21,672 --> 00:27:25,820
lightest one being the darkest, 
he's probably a level 8. 
 

489
00:27:25,828 --> 00:27:28,076
My hairdressers out there will 
appreciate this if. 
 

490
00:27:28,084 --> 00:27:29,900
You could see my face right now,
y'all? 
 

491
00:27:29,908 --> 00:27:31,400
It's technically considered 
blonde. 
 

492
00:27:31,408 --> 00:27:34,072
Her eyes checked. 
I'm not going to. 
 

493
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,910
It's it's he's a brunette, but 
whatever, he's got blonde hair. 

494
00:27:37,910 --> 00:27:38,800
 
I delulu. 

495
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,960
I'll take a photo. 
 
He is very pale. 

496
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,800
This long hair is happening, 
 
some facial hair that is nasty, 

497
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,640
some teeth that are nasty. 
 
His shirt is nasty. 

498
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,160
His whole thing is nasty. 
 
But Joseph Johnston is the host 

499
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,840
of Joseph's Nauvoo Tours, which 
 I just love this. 

500
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:03,080
I wish there was like Chris's 
 
Manosphere tours. 

501
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:09,320
Yeah, you could take everyone to

 every place throughout. 

502
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,880
Where men have been wronged by 

women. 

503
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,520
You could like, like the time 
 
that I beat a random man on that

504
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,360
street corner. 
 
You could take them there, 

505
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,760
right? 
 
Yeah. 

506
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,160
Well, there's so many places 
 
where men have been wronged by 

507
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,151
women that I could just create a

 beautiful map, but it would 

508
00:28:23,151 --> 00:28:24,720
have to be ugly because it's 
part of 
 the manosphere. 

509
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,760
It's got to be unattractive. 
 
It's got to be dirty blonde, 

510
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,480
like our friend Joseph Johnston,

 who is a brunette. 

511
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,546
Now, Meri did say that he's, you

 know, part of the Mormon L 

512
00:28:34,546 --> 00:28:36,284
Diaz. 
Like you said, he's not part of 

513
00:28:36,284 --> 00:28:37,755
 the AUB, which is the Browns 
cult. 
 

514
00:28:37,763 --> 00:28:42,711
He's not a member of their cult.
He's a part of the larger cult. 

515
00:28:42,711 --> 00:28:44,600
 
Mckelty, our favorite daughter. 

516
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Her hair is glowing, that bright

 head of freshly dyed red hair.

517
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320
It's like Ariel The Little 
 
Mermaid Barbie doll red. 

518
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,775
It's literally just glowing, but

 she's got hot roots, which 

519
00:28:58,775 --> 00:29:01,608
means that like the hair color 
process 
 differently at the 

520
00:29:01,608 --> 00:29:03,440
roots, so brighter at the roots.

 

521
00:29:03,448 --> 00:29:07,133
So she's got major hot roots and
the sun is shining on the top of

522
00:29:07,133 --> 00:29:10,818

 her head and she's kind of in 
the back end of the crowd of the

523
00:29:10,818 --> 00:29:13,817

 family. 
But it is like a sore thumb, 
 

524
00:29:13,825 --> 00:29:18,060
just like glowing from the back 
of the group because her hot 
 

525
00:29:18,068 --> 00:29:20,298
roots are literally you could 
put. 
 

526
00:29:20,306 --> 00:29:23,692
Her in front of a construction 
site to like don't come here. 
 

527
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:24,400
Direct. 
Traffic. 
 

528
00:29:24,408 --> 00:29:29,292
Yeah, like a safety cone. 
Now Robyn says something being 


529
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,578
vague in the beginning of their 
Mormon teachings. 
 

530
00:29:32,586 --> 00:29:35,912
What was this vague thing? 
Did you catch this? 
 

531
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,504
I think she said something about
like. 
 

532
00:29:38,512 --> 00:29:42,720
Well, it's, it's blatantly 
obvious that they don't know 
 

533
00:29:42,728 --> 00:29:47,720
everything that they're about to
learn and they're pushing this 


534
00:29:47,728 --> 00:29:52,490
narrative on their kids and they
want to impart this wisdom on 
 

535
00:29:52,498 --> 00:29:55,520
their kids. 
Kody says that he's expecting 
 

536
00:29:55,528 --> 00:30:00,344
some juicy stuff and that he 
tells Joseph that he doesn't 
 

537
00:30:00,352 --> 00:30:05,832
need it to whitewash the history
and he can tell them all of the 

538
00:30:05,832 --> 00:30:07,630
 stories because. 
We're polygamous. 
 

539
00:30:07,638 --> 00:30:12,255
And it's like, well, your entire
religion is whitewashed. 
 

540
00:30:12,263 --> 00:30:16,189
It's literally like, you know, 
it is what it is, dude. 
 

541
00:30:16,197 --> 00:30:17,025
Yeah. 
Absolutely. 
 

542
00:30:17,033 --> 00:30:21,104
But he's like, oh, get into the 
nitty gritty with us. 
 

543
00:30:21,112 --> 00:30:24,506
We want to know it all. 
And it's like, dude, are you 
 

544
00:30:24,514 --> 00:30:27,895
admitting right now that you 
don't know the insurance and 
 

545
00:30:27,903 --> 00:30:30,828
outs of your religion? 
That you're imparting this 
 

546
00:30:30,836 --> 00:30:33,427
wisdom and preaching to your 
children every Sunday. 
 

547
00:30:33,435 --> 00:30:37,790
And you're going to rely on 
Joseph Johnston and his dark 
 

548
00:30:37,798 --> 00:30:40,400
brown hair. 
Shut it. 
 

549
00:30:40,408 --> 00:30:43,680
Got it, Trebek, You shut your 
dirty mouth. 
 

550
00:30:43,688 --> 00:30:47,015
Oh, man. 
Now, Joseph Johnston, oh, excuse

551
00:30:47,015 --> 00:30:51,188

 me, Joseph Johnston, the host 
of Joseph's Nauvoo Tours, is 

552
00:30:51,188 --> 00:30:54,781
going 
 to start telling us 
about Joseph Smith and his 

553
00:30:54,781 --> 00:30:58,800
inbred brother and 
 his small 
town and all the things that 

554
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,960
happened. 
 
When he starts, he's talking 

555
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,480
about a field. 
 
Being like this doesn't matter 

556
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,240
to most people, but it matters 

to your family because Joseph 

557
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,680
Smith was walking this way and 

his brother hybrid inbred was 

558
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,960
going this way and then they met

 and they said, God, is there 

559
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920
polygamy going on here? 
 
No, I don't. 

560
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,920
Know my God. 
 
That was so Kara Cunningham. 

561
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Oh my God. 
 
Now what is the real story here,

562
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,520
darling? 
 
I blocked out all these details.

563
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,960
Trauma Block. 
 
OK, so Hiram is walking with 

564
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:38,184
Brigham Young through this field

 and he says to Brigham Young, 

565
00:31:38,184 --> 00:31:41,920
I want you to tell me the truth.

 

566
00:31:41,928 --> 00:31:44,949
Is there polygamy going on? 
Right. 
 

567
00:31:44,957 --> 00:31:51,580
And Hiram just needs to know 
because he's been hearing rumors

568
00:31:51,580 --> 00:31:53,720

 about his brother Joseph 
Smith. 

569
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,400
So he knows that Brigham Young's

 going to tell him the truth. 

570
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Brigham Young says that yes, 
 
they are practicing polygamy. 

571
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,360
And Hiram goes back to his 
 
brother Joseph Smith, after a 

572
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:15,230
night of sleep, and he says that

 he is ready to be God's tool 

573
00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:18,816
and that Brigham Young told him 
that 
 he's practicing polygamy 

574
00:32:18,816 --> 00:32:22,178
and that he knows he's fought it
for 
 a long time, but he's 

575
00:32:22,178 --> 00:32:24,640
ready to be God's tool and to 
join 
 polygamy. 

576
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,120
And then Hiram tells Joseph 
 
Smith that he has to have a 

577
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,680
scribe write down the doctrine 

of plural marriage and soul 

578
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:41,240
became the Doctrine and the 
 
Covenant of 132 of Elias Canon. 

579
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Nani, could you describe the 
 
tool that someone was supposed 

580
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,960
to be for Jesus? 
 
Is it, is the shaft long? 

581
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,280
Is it thick? 
 
Is it veiny? 

582
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,920
Is it circumcised? 
 
It may or may not be a Wiener. 

583
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000
Oh, we're talking about wieners 
 here. 

584
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,200
I wasn't talking about that kind

 of tool. 

585
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,800
Where'd you get that idea? 
 
He. 

586
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,280
Says he's ready to be a God's 
 
tool. 

587
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,600
And I'm like, OK, you're ready 

to use your tool. 

588
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,440
Yeah, you know, I mean, I just, 
 I just was wondering if any 

589
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,160
description was given about the 
 length and the girth, but. 

590
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,680
I mean, we're talking about 
 
horny men here. 

591
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,600
We're talking about horny men 
 
that are saying that they are 

592
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200
just ready to fuck and Yep, 
 
let's get it on. 

593
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Let's get it on. 
 
In the name of God. 

594
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,040
In the name of God, let's get it

 on. 

595
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,040
Oh, my God, I just, I can't with

 this because it's like, OK, 

596
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,040
you've got your brother Hiram, 

who's like, just completely 

597
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,240
against polygamy. 
 
I'm so against it. 

598
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,560
But Brigham Young, you better 
 
tell me the truth is the 

599
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,760
polygamy going on here. 
 
And he's got his mutton chops 

600
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,840
and his big old beard and his. 

And a high collar. 

601
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,200
Mustache and a high collar. 
 
And he says, well, gosh darn it,

602
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,280
my collar's a little too tight, 
 I'll loosen it. 

603
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,760
And I'm going to be a tool for 

God. 

604
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,600
Like, OK, so all of a sudden, 
 
overnight you're just going to 

605
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,400
be like, God spoke to me too. 
 
I woke up and I had a wet dream 

606
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,360
and I thought that God's telling

 me that I need to use my tool 

607
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,080
for good. 
 
I need to fuck many bitches. 

608
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,639
And you know what? 
 
That's part of the manosphere 

609
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,960
teachings. 
 
I'm seeing parallels here. 

610
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,560
I can't believe you're not part 
 of this this. 

611
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,679
Is what I'm thinking. 
 
I'm going. 

612
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,400
Why am I not a? 
 
Why am I not? 

613
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,199
Following the teachings of 
 
Joseph. 

614
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,840
Johnson. 
 
I hate to break it to you, but I

615
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,120
got to tell you the truth right 
 now. 

616
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,320
Do. 
 
They hate closeted gay men. 

617
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,480
You can't get pregnant from 
 
anal. 

618
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:38,280
Oh, that's a lie. 
 
That's a lie. 

619
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,440
Don't believe it. 
 
Do not believe it. 

620
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,280
Oh, it's a lie that you can't 
 
get pregnant from anal. 

621
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,560
Well, what do you people with a 
 uterus can get pregnant from 

622
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,400
anal? 
 
Why from like juices running? 

623
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,009
Well, sperm can live like in and

 like for up to three days, 

624
00:34:57,009 --> 00:35:00,840
like in the vagina and stuff and
it 
 it can travel through the 

625
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,720
juiciest through the snail 
 
trail. 

626
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,760
Oh God. 
 
So don't believe that anyone who

627
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,640
is perhaps listening of our 
 
younger audience. 

628
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,800
God or unlike Kimber, just 
 
bathe. 

629
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,080
You know, like just clean up 
 
afterwards. 

630
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,640
Seriously, I thought you were 
 
trying to say I couldn't get 

631
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,160
pregnant because of the anal 
 
practices and I said honey, I 

632
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,680
have tried and you are right. 
 
Well. 

633
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,680
I'm saying on your end, you 
 
can't. 

634
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,000
And so that's why you can't be 

part of the manosphere. 

635
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,760
Yeah, because you can't. 
 
Yeah, you know. 

636
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,600
And I'm too pregnant to be one 

of the polygamist wives, so. 

637
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,240
You can't be part of the quiver 
 full movement. 

638
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,280
Exactly. 
 
I knew that. 

639
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,000
Well, you realize that that's 
 
what a lot of this is. 

640
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,640
It's like about the quiver, full

 movement and spreading your 

641
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,960
seed. 
 
Of course for the Aryan race, 

642
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,320
it's like really fucked. 
 
Up I've advocated for spreading 

643
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,600
the seed all over the place and 
 unfortunately everyone, all 

644
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,800
those men were like, you're not 
 ugly enough to be my polygamist

645
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,400
wife. 
 
And I'm like, oh damn, like no 

646
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,920
anal for us. 
 
Oh Dang. 

647
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,320
Oh my. 
 
God, this is ridiculous. 

648
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,960
It's gone crazy. 
 
Oh, you guys there's. 

649
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,120
Something about the Air Nauvoo 

just just making. 

650
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Me hot and bothered. 
 
Just makes me want to do anal. 

651
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,800
Thinking about all these mutton 
 chops has got me hot and 

652
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,640
bothered, especially these white

 no mutton chops that have been

653
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,720
bleached by hours in the sun and

 the Gray hair mutton chops. 

654
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,000
Well, you're just ready to 
 
accept God's tool. 

655
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,840
Hot and bothered Well, we're 
 
going to go and sit down on a 

656
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,280
bench with the adults of the 
 
family now. 

657
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,320
A. 
 
Picnic bench. 

658
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080
I don't think I need to name. 
 
Them a picnic table. 

659
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,640
Do I need to name them? 
 
Yeah, I'm mentioning like, 

660
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,280
Forrest Gump. 
 
I'm like, now they're sitting at

661
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,880
a picnic table. 
 
Like all of a sudden Tom Hanks 

662
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,800
is like sitting there. 
 
And it's like, good God, get out

663
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,640
of here, Tom. 
 
They're each sitting on another 

664
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,600
side of like a bike trail just 

talking about this, and bikers 

665
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,640
keep going by. 
 
When Joseph Johnston is sitting 

666
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,120
at the table with the parents, 

you know, the children have 

667
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,760
scattered to protect their 
 
delicate ears from the truths 

668
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,880
that are going to fall from 
 
Joseph's mouth. 

669
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,600
And what does he tell the family

 and what's happening here? 

670
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Kody kind of asks how many wives

 that Joseph Smith really had. 

671
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:17,680
And then Joseph Johnston says, 

well, that's one of the first 

672
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:24,520
questions that I get asked every

 tour, how many wives Joseph 

673
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,720
Smith really had. 
 
And it was 33. 

674
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,880
He had 33 wives. 
 
And Kody is like what? 

675
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:36,200
I thought it was 17. 
 
I was just distracted because I 

676
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,880
thought when he said 33 wives, 

he was going to talk about his 

677
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,440
33 teeth on the top row 
 
protecting from his mouth, but 

678
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,600
instead it was the wives. 
 
So, you know, there's that. 

679
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640
He also volunteers that likely 

twelve of those wives were 

680
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,720
already married to other men. 
 
So. 

681
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:55,320
Dot dot dot dot dot. 
 
What that means is that some 

682
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,520
wives had two husbands and they 
 were already married. 

683
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:06,640
So then he was their second 
 
husband and Robyn just cannot 

684
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,680
believe this. 
 
Right, and he claims these wives

685
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,687
could remain married to their OG

 husbands but also be married 

686
00:38:12,687 --> 00:38:16,480
to Joseph Smith. 
 
He says quote in every sense of 

687
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,720
the word, Meaning Joseph Smith 

can use his tool of God to 

688
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:25,000
penetrate these married women. 

Shock gasp. 

689
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,560
Robyn is just like so confused 

by this and she's like oh you 

690
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,400
mean that that means they were 

brother husbands? 

691
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,040
Because she's an idiot. 
 
So he has to kind of reiterate 

692
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,880
to her like, yes, they were in 

every sense of the way they 

693
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,000
would go back and stay with 
 
their original husband. 

694
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:53,880
And then Kody's like, well, they

 were probably just performing 

695
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,040
ceremonial marriages so that 
 
Joseph Smith could help these 

696
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,840
people get to a different level 
 in heaven. 

697
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,800
And it's like you're speaking 
 
out of your ass right now 

698
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,200
because you didn't know this and

 you're embarrassed and this is

699
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,040
fucking weird and you guys don't

 know your own history. 

700
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,320
Well, Kody does say historians 

are in disagreement. 

701
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,360
Honey, it's not that they don't 
 know. 

702
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,120
There's just so many. 
 
There's some discrepancies 

703
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,080
different. 
 
Stories depending on what side 

704
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,400
of the tool you're, if you're 
 
the receiver or the giver of the

705
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,440
COD tool, yeah, you might have a

 different story. 

706
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,360
I just can't even believe that 

they're acting so shocked right 

707
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,640
here because you would think 
 
that this is something that they

708
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,640
would know by now. 
 
I don't know. 

709
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,080
And then Janelle. 
 
I know. 

710
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,219
And this goes exactly counter to

 what I said earlier when I 

711
00:39:43,219 --> 00:39:44,960
said Janelle's the smartest of 
them 
 all. 

712
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,240
And now we get this doozy. 
 
Oh my God. 

713
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,280
Yeah, well, she says that her 
 
ideas and beliefs do not hinge 

714
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,240
on this and that he was just a 

guy. 

715
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:58,400
He wasn't Jesus, he was just a 

guy. 

716
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,640
They're just speculating. 
 
We're all speculating at this 

717
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,840
point, and so are the 
 
historians. 

718
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Like it wasn't that long ago 
 
there was a newspaper, for God's

719
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:09,800
sake. 
 
You know what? 

720
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,680
I. 
 
Mean we're fucking speculating. 

721
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:16,040
OK, There was a problem. 
 
There's a reason why all of this

722
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,440
shit was going down and oh, 
 
they're speculating. 

723
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,428
So you're speculating about your

 religion and that you're 

724
00:40:23,428 --> 00:40:27,819
willing to stake your life on 
this and 
 your children's 

725
00:40:27,819 --> 00:40:31,989
capability to grow up with their
mom and their 
 dad and all of 

726
00:40:31,989 --> 00:40:36,040
this stuff that you just so 
passionately believe 
 in. 

727
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,320
It's all speculation, yeah. 
 
We're just speculating. 

728
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,760
It doesn't really matter to me 

because my testimony does not 

729
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,920
hinge on what this man did. 
 
He's not Jesus, he's not God on 

730
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,160
earth. 
 
He's a guy. 

731
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,720
Oh no, He's just spoke to Jesus,

 that's all. 

732
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,640
He just spoke to him. 
 
What the fuck? 

733
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,440
He's just got Jesus's tool in 
 
his hand, in his mouth. 

734
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,760
Hiram told Joseph to have a 
 
scribe write down the doctrine 

735
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,160
of plural marriage, and so 
 
became the Doctrine and 

736
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,782
Covenants 132 of the LDS Canon. 
 

737
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:19,550
OK Janelle, OK you dumb dumb 
dumb dummy. 
 

738
00:41:19,558 --> 00:41:25,641
This whole sect of the religion 
is based on one man wanting to 


739
00:41:25,649 --> 00:41:28,894
get his Dick wet with more than 
one woman. 
 

740
00:41:28,902 --> 00:41:34,160
OK, I'm just going to say that 
one more time because y'all are 

741
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,268
 believing this, OK? 
For the record. 
 

742
00:41:37,276 --> 00:41:41,704
For the record, Jesus spoke to 
him through his Weiner and 
 

743
00:41:41,712 --> 00:41:47,935
that's why we have Covenant 132.
And then the baby Jesus, who is 

744
00:41:47,935 --> 00:41:51,742
 the leader of the manosphere, 
gave us a commercial break and 


745
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:55,138
we returned back to Joseph's NAU
tours. 
 

746
00:41:55,146 --> 00:42:02,250
We're going to go to Carthage, 
where Joseph Smith was killed at

747
00:42:02,250 --> 00:42:06,189

 the jail. 
But first we have to stop, and 


748
00:42:06,197 --> 00:42:10,245
we have to hear the story of the
Nauvoo Expositor Press. 
 

749
00:42:10,253 --> 00:42:14,775
Yeah, the Brown family is 
gathered with Joseph Johnston on

750
00:42:14,775 --> 00:42:18,910

 the other side of the street 
from this newspaper, and he's 
 

751
00:42:18,918 --> 00:42:23,104
filling them in on these lovely 
details about Nauvoo's colorful 

752
00:42:23,104 --> 00:42:27,744
 history, and he gives them some
more details about this burning 

753
00:42:27,744 --> 00:42:32,640
 of the newspaper and the press.
Apparently this newspaper was 
 

754
00:42:32,648 --> 00:42:38,245
reporting about Joseph Smith and
his plural marriages and he did 

755
00:42:38,245 --> 00:42:42,264
 not like this and their 
community did not like this. 
 

756
00:42:42,272 --> 00:42:47,992
So the Nauvoo City Council voted
to have the press destroyed. 
 

757
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,076
Burned to the ground. 
Burned to a crisp. 
 

758
00:42:53,084 --> 00:42:57,935
So this newspaper, freedom of 
speech, kind of the whole reason

759
00:42:57,935 --> 00:43:00,080

 you came here, freedom of 
speech, freedom of religion, 
 

760
00:43:00,088 --> 00:43:03,064
you're going to burn it to the 
ground because they're speaking 

761
00:43:03,064 --> 00:43:06,212
 about the truth about your 
plural marriages and you don't 


762
00:43:06,220 --> 00:43:06,885
like it. 
Absolutely. 
 

763
00:43:06,893 --> 00:43:10,260
This is not the first time in 
history where people have, you 


764
00:43:10,268 --> 00:43:14,135
know, tried to silence, take 
down, burn to the ground, 
 

765
00:43:14,143 --> 00:43:17,800
literally voices that are 
sharing the truth. 
 

766
00:43:17,808 --> 00:43:22,140
And maybe their color in their 
truth was polygamy is terrible 


767
00:43:22,148 --> 00:43:26,300
and all these things are bad. 
But if they're really just 
 

768
00:43:26,308 --> 00:43:29,736
sharing the truth about what's 
happening in their community, 
 

769
00:43:29,744 --> 00:43:32,940
that's not the same as coloring.
Polygamy is bad. 
 

770
00:43:32,948 --> 00:43:36,540
If polygamy is illegal and 
people are breaking the law, 
 

771
00:43:36,548 --> 00:43:39,454
then, yeah, they're going to 
report on it because it's the 
 

772
00:43:39,462 --> 00:43:42,160
press in America. 
Like that's what happens. 
 

773
00:43:42,168 --> 00:43:46,520
And while they're standing 
there, this is when Joseph 
 

774
00:43:46,528 --> 00:43:51,626
Johnston talks about a 22 year 
old man who was also standing 
 

775
00:43:51,634 --> 00:43:54,718
right where they were, watching 
the things that happened, this 


776
00:43:54,726 --> 00:43:56,880
burning of the press to the 
ground. 
 

777
00:43:56,888 --> 00:44:03,028
Meri is great, great, great. 
Yes, 3 greats. 
 

778
00:44:03,036 --> 00:44:06,790
He was 22 at the time. 
William Adams. 
 

779
00:44:06,798 --> 00:44:10,894
William Adams, yes, was standing
there and watched that building 

780
00:44:10,894 --> 00:44:14,140
 burn. 
And Meri is smiling ear to ear. 

781
00:44:14,140 --> 00:44:15,160
 
Yo, she's tickled. 

782
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,360
Pink. 
 
She's got this weird little 

783
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,800
Grinch grin on her face. 
 
You know where he does the 

784
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,720
little corners of the mouth turn

 up and the middle of her mouth

785
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,720
goes downward. 
 
Yeah. 

786
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,520
She's got this weird little 
 
grin. 

787
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,480
Why are you so pleased about 
 
this? 

788
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,760
Weird. 
 
Oh. 

789
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,680
My great great great 
 
grandfather's being mentioned in

790
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,240
history. 
 
And this wasn't set up at all. 

791
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,840
It's not like he had this 
 
opportunity to say this about 

792
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,520
Meri's great, great, great 
 
grandfather. 

793
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,720
And it's not like there be 
 
another one in the near future 

794
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,400
with Robbins great great 
 
grandfather. 

795
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,680
And it's not like they told us 

an amazing story about how he 

796
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,920
took a bucket of water and tried

 to save positive fresh. 

797
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,503
No, no, no, He watched it burn. 
 

798
00:44:54,511 --> 00:44:56,635
He was. 
Just there, watching it burn. 
 

799
00:44:56,643 --> 00:44:59,725
He didn't even throw a match. 
He wasn't on either side. 
 

800
00:44:59,733 --> 00:45:01,580
Yeah, he just stood and watched 
it burn. 
 

801
00:45:01,588 --> 00:45:03,632
Yeah, he's just the middle of 
the rotor. 
 

802
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,732
Just a bystander. 
Just a simple Nauvoo resident. 


803
00:45:06,740 --> 00:45:09,107
A humble American trying to make
a living. 
 

804
00:45:09,115 --> 00:45:09,648
We. 
Don't know. 
 

805
00:45:09,656 --> 00:45:12,430
Maybe he had a peg leg, maybe he
couldn't partake, we don't know.

806
00:45:12,430 --> 00:45:14,000

 
Maybe he could have started on 

807
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,040
fire. 
 
We don't know, and you want to 

808
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,160
know why. 
 
We don't know why. 

809
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,960
It's all speculation. 
 
And any documents that would 

810
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,360
have told us were burned to the 
 ground. 

811
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,440
Burn to a crisp. 
 
Oh my gosh. 

812
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,840
Meri's little grin, though. 
 
It just ate me up. 

813
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,200
Yeah. 
 
And then Christine, she'd have 

814
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,120
been skirred. 
 
She'd have been skirts. 

815
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,440
Skirt. 
 
Oh, yes, she had a great quote 

816
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,920
here. 
 
Oh, it was so good. 

817
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:40,460
She would have been frightened. 
 

818
00:45:40,468 --> 00:45:44,232
Can you imagine being there in 
that community and seeing all 
 

819
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,708
these things happen, watching 
your community? 
 

820
00:45:46,716 --> 00:45:48,500
What did she say? 
What? 
 

821
00:45:48,508 --> 00:45:50,412
Rumble. 
Watching your community crumble 

822
00:45:50,412 --> 00:45:52,606
 or some bullshit. 
I didn't actually write it down,

823
00:45:52,606 --> 00:45:57,095

 but. 
It was just really funny because

824
00:45:57,095 --> 00:46:00,815

 she got this like quote and 
that was very dramatic. 
 

825
00:46:00,823 --> 00:46:05,240
And it wasn't even about her 
great, great grand father, 
 

826
00:46:05,248 --> 00:46:06,698
William Madams. 
No. 
 

827
00:46:06,706 --> 00:46:11,964
After the burning of the press, 
Joseph Smith had to go to the 
 

828
00:46:11,972 --> 00:46:15,664
courthouse in Carthage. 
Yes, the Hancock County 
 

829
00:46:15,672 --> 00:46:18,909
Courthouse. 
So of course, the Browns have to

830
00:46:18,909 --> 00:46:22,840

 follow because just a reminder
for everyone, we are in their 
 

831
00:46:22,848 --> 00:46:27,208
Jerusalem, We are where we they 
are going on their Mecca, their 

832
00:46:27,208 --> 00:46:29,860
 journey to wherever they're 
fucking going, which happens to 

833
00:46:29,860 --> 00:46:34,056
 be the Hancock County 
Courthouse in Carthage, IL. 
 

834
00:46:34,064 --> 00:46:37,855
It's special. 
So the Browns all go and they're

835
00:46:37,855 --> 00:46:40,024

 sitting in a courthouse, and 
this gives Joseph Johnston. 
 

836
00:46:40,032 --> 00:46:43,055
Now, I know there's a lot of 
Joseph's flying around here, so 

837
00:46:43,055 --> 00:46:47,560
 try to try to keep up. 
Joseph with the blonde hair. 
 

838
00:46:47,568 --> 00:46:51,798
Joseph Johnson, we could have 
called him JJ this whole time. 


839
00:46:51,806 --> 00:46:54,125
Let's call him JJ from here on 
out. 
 

840
00:46:54,133 --> 00:46:58,400
So J JS telling the family about
what happened at the courthouse 

841
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,360
 with his dark blonde hair. 
The Nauvoo Council turned 
 

842
00:47:02,368 --> 00:47:07,709
themselves in for the charges of
rioting, and Joseph Smith is a 


843
00:47:07,717 --> 00:47:10,750
bun. 
The group with the riotous 
 

844
00:47:10,758 --> 00:47:15,104
weighs and he turns himself in. 
And Joseph Smith posts bail. 
 

845
00:47:15,112 --> 00:47:17,994
Yep, which is lovely. 
He had some rich friends or he 


846
00:47:18,002 --> 00:47:21,142
was rich or something. 
Initially he posts bail, but him

847
00:47:21,142 --> 00:47:24,640

 and Harem are arrested again 
on charges of treason. 
 

848
00:47:24,648 --> 00:47:27,610
Right, they're leaving the 
courthouse and the sheriff 
 

849
00:47:27,618 --> 00:47:30,745
approaches them with writs of 
charges for treason. 
 

850
00:47:30,753 --> 00:47:35,262
Now, friendly reminder for our 
listeners at home, treason is a 

851
00:47:35,262 --> 00:47:38,440
 crime punishable by death in 
the United States. 
 

852
00:47:38,448 --> 00:47:42,892
It's because you literally are 
committing treason against the 


853
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:44,869
United States government. 
Hello. 
 

854
00:47:44,877 --> 00:47:49,709
You don't get to commit treason.
Yeah, it's not exactly a light 


855
00:47:49,717 --> 00:47:50,520
charge. 
They don't. 
 

856
00:47:50,528 --> 00:47:52,200
They don't just hand out treason
charges. 
 

857
00:47:52,208 --> 00:47:55,000
OK. 
Kody gives us a quote here. 
 

858
00:47:55,008 --> 00:47:58,886
They claim that Joseph Smith 
says as he is being brought to 


859
00:47:58,894 --> 00:48:03,986
the jaw. 
He says I am going as a lamb to 

860
00:48:03,986 --> 00:48:06,946
 the slaughter. 
Yes, because Joseph Smith called

861
00:48:06,946 --> 00:48:10,702

 for martial law in their town 
after the burning of the press. 

862
00:48:10,702 --> 00:48:12,360
 
Now this goes hand in hand with 

863
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,400
the treason charges, because if 
 you're someone who thinks you 

864
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,160
get to determine martial law, 
 
that means you're fucking nuts. 

865
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:22,048
I mean, either there's something

 really bad happening and 

866
00:48:22,048 --> 00:48:26,388
you're a good guy trying to 
right the 
 wrongs, or you're a 

867
00:48:26,388 --> 00:48:30,040
really bad guy and you're like, 
I get to 
 call martial law. 

868
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,197
Well, after Joseph Smith called 
 for martial law, that's when 

869
00:48:34,197 --> 00:48:37,800
the state leaders are notified 
and 
 put a warrant out for his 

870
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,000
arrest. 
 
Oh, he was freed, and then he 

871
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,530
has to be arrested again because

 the state leaders are like, 

872
00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:46,200
you don't just get to say 
martial 
 law. 

873
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,200
Like, who are you? 
 
I know. 

874
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,360
It's like, listen, Mr. 
 
Polygamist freak who burned the 

875
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,600
newspaper to the ground, you 
 
don't now get to say martial law

876
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,320
and you're the leader of the 
 
town. 

877
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,160
Like it's ridiculous. 
 
You treasonous bastard. 

878
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,920
Treason. 
 
And he is like their hero. 

879
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,560
He's their hero. 
 
Right. 

880
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,880
They were put into the jail, but

 then they were taken upstairs 

881
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,240
for their own safety because 
 
there were rumors of harassers 

882
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,200
coming. 
 
But in between all of this, we 

883
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:25,000
do go away from this wonderful 

story of the polygamist past to 

884
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:30,160
the Browns who are standing 
 
there and there's a museum 

885
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,880
across the way, but they're not 
 allowed to go into the museum. 

886
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,440
And Kody asks is it because 
 
we're plagues? 

887
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,480
JJ says yes. 
 
Do you? 

888
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,920
Believe JJ Honey. 
 
Janelle goes into this spiel 

889
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,680
about prejudice against them and

 the prejudice against the 

890
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,760
polygamists and blah blah blah 

blah blah. 

891
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,360
Could it just be the fucking 
 
cameras, bitch? 

892
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Could it just be that they don't

 want the cameras in the entire

893
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,760
show to be coming into their 
 
religious museum? 

894
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,480
Like you guys are so full of 
 
yourselves. 

895
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,000
I understand that there's this 

rift in the church between the 

896
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,000
polygamous sect and The Maine 
 
Mormonism church, but like, 

897
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,720
honestly, if you had gone as a 

normal family just to visit this

898
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,280
museum, do you think that they 

wouldn't have let you in? 

899
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,520
It wouldn't be the first 
 
business or institution that 

900
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,680
says you can't film in our 
 
building like this is a really 

901
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,720
common thing actually, so. 
 
Especially in a religious 

902
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,120
museum, right? 
 
Right. 

903
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,080
Yeah, it's certainly not 
 
government sanctioned. 

904
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,680
It's a literal religious 
 
institution. 

905
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,920
They try to paint it as this 
 
whole thing that's against them 

906
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,280
because they're being prejudice,

 because they're plagues. 

907
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,760
And I'm a little shocked that 
 
Joseph Johnston, RJJ says yes, 

908
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,680
because his community 
 
afterwards, I would think would 

909
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,160
be a little pissed about that 
 
because you're just like outing 

910
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,896
your community and saying, Nope,

 Nope, we're judging you 

911
00:51:00,896 --> 00:51:03,160
because you're plagued. 
 
You can't come to our museum, 

912
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,320
right? 
 
And I kind of doubt that that's 

913
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,800
the case. 
 
But he like even if it is the 

914
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,560
case, he just outed his town on 
 TV. 

915
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,440
Yeah, well, at least that, you 

know, little museum thing when 

916
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,920
you were talking about Joseph 
 
Smith saying I'm going as a lamb

917
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,600
to the slaughter, what it spoke 
 to me about my thoughts. 

918
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:30,880
It's like he knew to use 
 
religious dogma and language to 

919
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,720
make it seem like he would 
 
predict the inevitable and 

920
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:37,880
obvious future. 
 
You have at this point committed

921
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,800
a crime probably by being a 
 
polygamist. 

922
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,680
Not even sure if it's actually 

illegal. 

923
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,120
No one actually said, oh, OK. 
 
Well, cool, it's illegal. 

924
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,960
You burned the newspaper to the 
 ground. 

925
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,520
You have declared martial law 
 
and now you're saying I'm going 

926
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,680
as a lamb to the slaughter. 
 
It's like right when you do a 

927
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,920
bunch of fucked up shit and then

 there's repercussions from it,

928
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,280
and then you're going to use 
 
this religious language about 

929
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,720
being a lamb going to the 
 
slaughter. 

930
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:10,000
It's like, duh. 
 
I just can't stand it because 

931
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,480
people that hear that kind of 
 
stuff and are like, oh, it must 

932
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,760
be true. 
 
I'm like, connect the fucking 

933
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,320
dots. 
 
Yeah, he's the martyr 

934
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,440
conspiracy, conspiracy. 
 
Martyr, Martyrism. 

935
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,240
It's ridiculous. 
 
It's like, no, you committed 

936
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,680
treason. 
 
You did all of these things 

937
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,160
leading up to this. 
 
You are not just some 

938
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,400
sacrificial lamb. 
 
Right. 

939
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,920
They didn't like break into your

 house and tear you out in the 

940
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,120
middle of the night and say 
 
you're going to a concentration 

941
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,520
camp like this did not happen 
 
like delulu. 

942
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,040
I think that's one of the things

 that like really pisses me off

943
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,590
about this religion in general. 
 

944
00:52:43,598 --> 00:52:46,888
Did you not realize or do you 
not think about the things that 

945
00:52:46,888 --> 00:52:49,832
 they were doing to all the 
other people in their community,

946
00:52:49,832 --> 00:52:53,282
the 
 reason that they actually 
were pissing people off? 
 

947
00:52:53,290 --> 00:52:56,834
I don't think that it probably 
has to do with the amount of 
 

948
00:52:56,842 --> 00:52:59,808
wives that you had. 
It probably has to do with your 

949
00:52:59,808 --> 00:53:02,880
 religious dogma and your 
battering of other people around

950
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,595

 you that they're not good 
enough. 
 

951
00:53:04,603 --> 00:53:08,095
They're not going to heaven as 
as far into heaven as you are 
 

952
00:53:08,103 --> 00:53:11,332
because they don't don't have as
many wives as you do, so they're

953
00:53:11,332 --> 00:53:14,303

 not going to. 
Or their skin colors in the same

954
00:53:14,303 --> 00:53:16,386

 as yours. 
Or their this or their that. 
 

955
00:53:16,394 --> 00:53:18,796
Like fill in the blank. 
Like these people were not 
 

956
00:53:18,804 --> 00:53:20,240
Saints walking around being 
persecuted. 
 

957
00:53:20,248 --> 00:53:21,776
No. 
And we know this. 
 

958
00:53:21,784 --> 00:53:24,570
Yeah. 
But when Janelle talks about 
 

959
00:53:24,578 --> 00:53:27,068
experiencing the prejudice in 
contemporary times. 
 

960
00:53:27,076 --> 00:53:29,635
I got so annoyed. 
Because of them not being able 


961
00:53:29,643 --> 00:53:33,024
to go into this private 
religiously based museum or 
 

962
00:53:33,032 --> 00:53:35,304
whatever. 
It's like, I don't know. 
 

963
00:53:35,312 --> 00:53:37,515
This is such a lame example. 
No, it's like. 
 

964
00:53:37,523 --> 00:53:41,570
Bitch, you've known for fucking 
years that they don't even your 

965
00:53:41,570 --> 00:53:43,766
 own sect. 
They don't want you talking 
 

966
00:53:43,774 --> 00:53:47,118
about this. 
They don't want you going and 
 

967
00:53:47,126 --> 00:53:51,095
filming Robyn's wedding to Kody.
They don't want you doing this 


968
00:53:51,103 --> 00:53:52,858
stuff because they find it 
sacred. 
 

969
00:53:52,866 --> 00:53:57,640
So if you actually respect your 
own religion and respect the 
 

970
00:53:57,648 --> 00:54:02,800
cultures and customs of your 
religion, blah, blah, blah, then

971
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,388

 you wouldn't be saying that 
they're being prejudice. 
 

972
00:54:06,396 --> 00:54:08,850
You'd be like, well, they just 
want to protect their peace. 
 

973
00:54:08,858 --> 00:54:11,100
And so we're not going to go 
film in there. 
 

974
00:54:11,108 --> 00:54:14,220
And this ties back to what I 
couldn't remember earlier about 

975
00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:17,235
 Robyn talking about the 
summaries of the details of the 

976
00:54:17,235 --> 00:54:19,462
 whatever. 
Is that her implication or what 

977
00:54:19,462 --> 00:54:23,122
 she was trying to imply earlier
in the episode, was that they, 


978
00:54:23,130 --> 00:54:27,806
as these AUB cult members, the 
Browns, really know all of the 


979
00:54:27,814 --> 00:54:29,680
teachings. 
They're the ones that really are

980
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,910

 living the faith as it's 
intended to be, and that these 


981
00:54:32,918 --> 00:54:35,546
other people are just glossing 
over these things because they 


982
00:54:35,554 --> 00:54:38,404
don't want to deal with it. 
And it's like, no, no, no, no, 


983
00:54:38,412 --> 00:54:41,108
no, no, no, no, no, no. 
These people have distanced 
 

984
00:54:41,116 --> 00:54:44,063
themselves from you and they 
don't want you to be a part of 


985
00:54:44,071 --> 00:54:46,464
things. 
And also that doesn't make them 

986
00:54:46,464 --> 00:54:48,974
 prejudice against you because 
they don't want you to film in 


987
00:54:48,982 --> 00:54:49,934
their building. 
No. 
 

988
00:54:49,942 --> 00:54:53,460
It's ridiculous. 
Also, you just listen to one man

989
00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:57,942

 and his Wiener and then you 
just took it as doctrine so you 

990
00:54:57,942 --> 00:55:02,424
know 
 it is what it is. 
And they're still figuring. 
 

991
00:55:02,432 --> 00:55:06,000
They're not figuring things out,
but kind of like they're 
 

992
00:55:06,008 --> 00:55:06,654
speculating. 
Speculating. 
 

993
00:55:06,662 --> 00:55:08,187
Thank you. 
We're all. 
 

994
00:55:08,195 --> 00:55:09,868
Just. 
Speculating, but it doesn't 
 

995
00:55:09,876 --> 00:55:13,300
matter because my faith is 
greater than the speculation. 
 

996
00:55:13,308 --> 00:55:15,907
Girl, get a grip. 
Yep. 
 

997
00:55:15,915 --> 00:55:18,430
All right. 
You're just listening to a man's

998
00:55:18,430 --> 00:55:21,346

 other brain. 
That's all this is based on OK? 

999
00:55:21,346 --> 00:55:23,320
 
And this gives Kody a wonderful 

1000
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,987
opportunity to talk about how he

 hopes his children get to 

1001
00:55:26,987 --> 00:55:29,720
travel because they'll get to 
 
experience other cultures, 

1002
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,320
beliefs and hopes, and that this

 will keep them open minded and

1003
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,600
open hearted. 
 
Yeah, my children won't have 

1004
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,920
prejudice because they'll, you 

know, see other things and know 

1005
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,400
other things. 
 
And unlike the people that you 

1006
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,760
are holding up on a pedestal who

 were in this community, who 

1007
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,983
were terrorizing people and 
people 
 were like, we've had 

1008
00:55:50,983 --> 00:55:53,984
enough. 
Yeah, you like forcing women 
 

1009
00:55:53,992 --> 00:55:57,102
into plural marriage, saying 
that it's going to get them 
 

1010
00:55:57,110 --> 00:56:00,946
closer to God and OK, Yep. 
But they're so innocent and 
 

1011
00:56:00,954 --> 00:56:05,237
going as lambs to the slaughter.
Lambs to the slaughter. 
 

1012
00:56:05,245 --> 00:56:09,860
So Joseph and Hiram are taken to
gel gel, but they're put 
 

1013
00:56:09,868 --> 00:56:13,596
upstairs for their own safety 
because rumors of harassers 
 

1014
00:56:13,604 --> 00:56:16,614
coming have been heard through 
the Grapevine. 
 

1015
00:56:16,622 --> 00:56:20,635
And this is where we hear about 
Robyn's connection. 
 

1016
00:56:20,643 --> 00:56:25,830
Oh yes, beautiful, JJ says. 
Among the people who had 
 

1017
00:56:25,838 --> 00:56:29,732
gathered, there was a fellow by 
the name of John Fulmer. 
 

1018
00:56:29,740 --> 00:56:34,184
And the camera pans to Robyn, 
and she's smiling. 
 

1019
00:56:34,192 --> 00:56:38,858
She's got a shitting grin on her
face and has to correct him. 
 

1020
00:56:38,866 --> 00:56:42,160
Yeah. 
Sean Solomon Fullmer Oh no, that

1021
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,734

 was way too clear. 
You could understand what I 
 

1022
00:56:44,742 --> 00:56:46,387
said. 
John Solomon Fullmer. 
 

1023
00:56:46,395 --> 00:56:50,642
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I could barely make it out 
 

1024
00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:53,424
because at first I thought she 
said John Sullivan Fullmer. 
 

1025
00:56:53,432 --> 00:56:56,806
And I thought she said John 
Follomon fullmer. 
 

1026
00:56:56,814 --> 00:57:01,020
Which is hysterical because I'm 
like, well, Sullivan is one of 


1027
00:57:01,028 --> 00:57:03,240
her many last names in her 
credit check. 
 

1028
00:57:03,248 --> 00:57:05,640
Like sure, I don't know 
somewhere her name is Sullivan. 

1029
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,080
 
We re listened like at least 

1030
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,960
three times. 
 
John Solomon Farmer. 

1031
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,240
Right. 
 
Eventually we figured out that 

1032
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:16,440
it was Solomon after the 4th 
 
listen and because they 

1033
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,000
referenced oh, that's why I 
 
named my son Solomon. 

1034
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,240
And it's like, Oh my. 
 
But she didn't even say that's 

1035
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,160
why we named our son Solomon. 
 
She goes. 

1036
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,200
That's why we named her son 
 
Fatman. 

1037
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,400
And I'm, I'm like, you can't 
 
even say his name. 

1038
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,400
No wonder why you call him Saul 
 all the time like Better Call 

1039
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,000
Saul. 
 
Yes, Robyn can't say Solomon. 

1040
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,880
It's too many syllables for my 

slow brain. 

1041
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,160
No, literally. 
 
Well. 

1042
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,760
Robyn does, you know, she gives 
 us some more details. 

1043
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,360
She says. 
 
My great, great, great 

1044
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,760
grandfather, John Solomon 
 
Fulmer. 

1045
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,200
Don Fulomon Fulmer. 
 
Don Solomon Fulmer was actually 

1046
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,520
in the jaw with Joseph Smith. 
 
He was acting as a lawyer trying

1047
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,760
to get him out of Jolt. 
 
He left the Jol to go get help. 

1048
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:08,320
Joseph Smith might be mad now 
 
while she's saying this. 

1049
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,720
And I did say jail as clearly as

 she did, Joel. 

1050
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,080
Joel. 
 
Joel. 

1051
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,960
He was in jail. 
 
And then while she's telling us 

1052
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:22,160
this totally not moving story 
 
that you can barely comprehend, 

1053
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,160
she has tears welling in her 
 
eyes. 

1054
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:30,760
Girl tears in her eyes talking 

about her great great great 

1055
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,680
grandfather who was helping out 
 a felon or not as a. 

1056
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,240
Lawyer. 
 
Yeah, acting as a acting as a He

1057
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,320
wasn't a lawyer. 
 
Acting as a lawyer. 

1058
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,200
Pretending to be a lawyer for 
 
his friend who committed 

1059
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,240
treason. 
 
Oh, that John Fulmer. 

1060
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:50,720
Fulmer, Oh lawyer. 
 
John Fulmer from all the history

1061
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,600
books. 
 
Tom Fulham and Fulmer. 

1062
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,640
Oh, this woman. 
 
Well the worst is yet to come. 

1063
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,080
A mob had gathered outside the 

doll. 

1064
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,800
Oh and there's more People broke

 in and they came up a shooting

1065
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,080
harem was shot 2 times, once in 
 the face, once in the back. 

1066
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,945
And he said I am a dead man and.

 

1067
00:59:17,953 --> 00:59:19,920
Then he died instantly, thank 
God. 
 

1068
00:59:19,928 --> 00:59:23,862
Right after that he said I'm a 
dead man, and then he died. 
 

1069
00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:26,600
Here I'm dodging just too clean.
And then? 
 

1070
00:59:26,608 --> 00:59:29,966
I got to take this one over girl
'cause earlier you were driving 

1071
00:59:29,966 --> 00:59:31,550
 me crazy. 
OK, Joseph. 
 

1072
00:59:31,558 --> 00:59:38,024
Smith, Joseph Smith goes to the 
window and yells out the window,

1073
00:59:38,024 --> 00:59:44,265

 Oh Lord my God. 
He was then shot and he fell out

1074
00:59:44,265 --> 00:59:49,860

 the window to the ground. 
Oh Lord my God. 
 

1075
00:59:49,868 --> 00:59:54,880
Who did it better? 
Yeah, let's hear your version, 


1076
00:59:54,888 --> 00:59:57,449
honey. 
Joseph Smith walked to the 
 

1077
00:59:57,457 --> 01:00:00,627
window and he yells hold on, my 
God. 
 

1078
01:00:00,635 --> 01:00:06,657
And then he was shot and he fell
13 feet out of the window. 
 

1079
01:00:06,665 --> 01:00:10,732
Honey, I can't tell you that I 
won that one. 
 

1080
01:00:10,740 --> 01:00:13,245
You were pretty good. 
OK, well and you got it gets 
 

1081
01:00:13,253 --> 01:00:14,500
worse. 
And you got the serious. 
 

1082
01:00:14,508 --> 01:00:17,322
It gets worse, it gets worse. 
You're just like, it gets worse,

1083
01:00:17,322 --> 01:00:21,352

 it gets worse, it gets worse. 
He was dragged by his hair to a 

1084
01:00:21,352 --> 01:00:25,152
 well and then someone, they 
were just so angry that they 

1085
01:00:25,152 --> 01:00:30,000
used the 
 end of their gun, the
bayonet, and they rammed it 

1086
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,554
through him 
 and the Prophet 
Joseph Smith was killed. 
 

1087
01:00:34,562 --> 01:00:39,986
That was really good, honey. 
I feel like whoever listen, if 


1088
01:00:39,994 --> 01:00:43,120
you're out there making a 
documentary about these, you 
 

1089
01:00:43,128 --> 01:00:46,240
know, made-up stories, maybe 
Kimber should be your. 
 

1090
01:00:46,248 --> 01:00:50,386
Dramatic readings by Kimber. 
I'm just saying, and you have a 

1091
01:00:50,386 --> 01:00:53,140
 clearly a big passion for Hiram
Smith and Joseph. 
 

1092
01:00:53,148 --> 01:00:56,201
Smith I do. 
My God, I was obsessed with 
 

1093
01:00:56,209 --> 01:00:58,503
those mutton chops. 
Obsessed. 
 

1094
01:00:58,511 --> 01:01:01,448
I'd love to feel them tickle 
between my thighs. 
 

1095
01:01:01,456 --> 01:01:04,366
You just need the tool of God. 
Come and. 
 

1096
01:01:04,374 --> 01:01:07,170
Imagine those mutton chops just 
tickling your thighs. 
 

1097
01:01:07,178 --> 01:01:08,802
They'll. 
Get like rubber on both your 
 

1098
01:01:08,810 --> 01:01:11,120
thighs and it's like just no, 
that would never happen because 

1099
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,160
 they wouldn't be going 
downtown. 

1100
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,120
They'd be like, that's the 
 
devil. 

1101
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,320
'S juice. 
 
Cut a hole in your little 

1102
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,560
sacred, you know, underwear and 
 let me fuck you Like that's 

1103
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,120
disgusting. 
 
I have a feeling there was a lot

1104
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,760
of orgies happening and we just 
 don't know about it. 

1105
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,280
I don't know. 
 
Sordid lives. 

1106
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,360
These people were dignitized. 
 
Yes, they were what was. 

1107
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,880
Going on. 
 
Kody tells us Joseph Smith was 

1108
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,600
killed by a mob. 
 
There was no trial. 

1109
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,120
There was no jury and I'm going,

 excuse me, Kody Brown, he 

1110
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,600
declared martial law. 
 
Like, what are you talking 

1111
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,320
about? 
 
Where would the trial or jury 

1112
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,120
have been? 
 
Like these people are insane 

1113
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,400
and. 
 
When you know, like what these 

1114
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:59,240
people were actually doing to 
 
others, it's very obvious that 

1115
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,800
people were just trying to 
 
protect their own and that they 

1116
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,080
weren't just scared of the 
 
polygamy and prejudice of the 

1117
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,720
polygamy. 
 
It's like, no, it's way deeper. 

1118
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,000
It's way more than that. 
 
And you don't even know how many

1119
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,360
fucking wives he had. 
 
So who are you to pretend that 

1120
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,000
this is like, oh, we know 
 
everything about this and this 

1121
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:22,600
poor man was haunted down in a 

jaw and drug out miles her to a 

1122
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:28,000
well after he was shot out 
 
window and fell dark time fight.

1123
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,000
He didn't know any of this. 
 
My God, Kody, you disgrace. 

1124
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Oh Lord my God. 
 
Kody, if Joseph Smith could hear

1125
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,960
what you said and that you 
 
didn't know the truth of his 

1126
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,920
history, he would have looked 
 
you in the eye and said, oh, 

1127
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,240
Kody, you Sinner among men, how 
 dare you? 

1128
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,640
Oh, Kody. 
 
Grow some mutton chops, Kody, 

1129
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,530
then maybe we'll listen to you. 
 

1130
01:02:57,538 --> 01:02:59,040
Yeah, Kody. 
All right. 
 

1131
01:02:59,048 --> 01:03:02,638
He also says the rest of the 
world may struggle to see what 


1132
01:03:02,646 --> 01:03:07,230
we see in this man. 
I believe he was inspired by 
 

1133
01:03:07,238 --> 01:03:09,047
God, absolutely. 
Absolutely. 
 

1134
01:03:09,055 --> 01:03:14,570
Well, you just cemented your 
delusion status, so 
 

1135
01:03:14,578 --> 01:03:18,670
congratulations, the rest of the
world doesn't see what we see. 


1136
01:03:18,678 --> 01:03:21,024
Like, duh. 
Yeah, no, they don't. 
 

1137
01:03:21,032 --> 01:03:25,515
They're not delulu. 
No one sees what you see. 
 

1138
01:03:25,523 --> 01:03:28,485
Insanity. 
Oh my God. 
 

1139
01:03:28,493 --> 01:03:31,810
I'm delulu, darling, I'm a 
delulu. 
 

1140
01:03:31,818 --> 01:03:36,598
I feel like he needs some like, 
horror version of our theme song

1141
01:03:36,598 --> 01:03:39,098

 and like, it needs to be 
Kody's music. 
 

1142
01:03:39,106 --> 01:03:41,627
When he plays, when he walks, 
when he walks. 
 

1143
01:03:41,635 --> 01:03:45,950
Plays when he walks tip to 
through the tulips put in the 
 

1144
01:03:45,958 --> 01:03:51,380
Kody being delulu, my God. 
So production gives us some 
 

1145
01:03:51,388 --> 01:03:55,560
lovely shots of some buildings 
and some exteriors of Nauvoo 
 

1146
01:03:55,568 --> 01:03:59,570
highlighting the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter Day Saints. 
 

1147
01:03:59,578 --> 01:04:02,914
Oh, now we didn't get to come 
around the Riverbend and see 
 

1148
01:04:02,922 --> 01:04:05,199
this. 
They were just like, oh, hot off

1149
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:07,856

 the heels of this 
inspirational story of a guy 

1150
01:04:07,856 --> 01:04:11,280
being killed out 
 of a window 
and another guy being killed by 

1151
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,532
being shot 
 twice, we're going 
to have these moments of like, 

1152
01:04:15,532 --> 01:04:19,290
la da, da, 
 like, Oh, no, 
everything's great. 
 

1153
01:04:19,298 --> 01:04:23,976
I want to know how, Harem said. 
I'm a dead man. 
 

1154
01:04:23,984 --> 01:04:26,280
You were shot in the face. 
You have no teeth. 
 

1155
01:04:26,288 --> 01:04:29,560
I don't believe that. 
Yes, I'm a gang be. 
 

1156
01:04:29,568 --> 01:04:33,160
This Oh my God, I. 
Just made the worst place I've 


1157
01:04:33,168 --> 01:04:36,696
ever made in my life. 
And then Kody, he's just kind of

1158
01:04:36,696 --> 01:04:40,315

 going on and on about how he 
is, he says. 
 

1159
01:04:40,323 --> 01:04:44,015
I'm grateful for the testament 
of Joseph Smith, and I believe 


1160
01:04:44,023 --> 01:04:46,143
in the principle of plural 
marriage. 
 

1161
01:04:46,151 --> 01:04:50,280
Kody says when he finds himself 
frustrated over his choices and 

1162
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,539
 the wives having expectations 
of him, he thinks back to those 

1163
01:04:54,539 --> 01:04:59,056
who 
 have sacrificed so much 
more so he can live the 

1164
01:04:59,056 --> 01:05:01,600
principle of 
 plural marriage 
in peace. 

1165
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:07,360
After Kody says this, Robyn 
 
makes 2 of the ugliest faces I 

1166
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,000
have ever seen on a human being 
 in my life. 

1167
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,160
Because of course she's 
 
overreacting and she's got it. 

1168
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,280
She's her usual. 
 
I don't know if this is pick me 

1169
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,720
vibes. 
 
I got to be honest honey, I 

1170
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,080
don't know what pick me vibes 
 
really mean. 

1171
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,800
You say it all the time and I'm 
 like, I don't know, I'm going. 

1172
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,320
To have to explain this. 
 
This is it. 

1173
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,800
But she's over in the side 
 
being, like, distorting her face

1174
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,120
as much as she can. 
 
And Kody continues. 

1175
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,720
I'm grateful for this testimony 
 of Joseph Smith. 

1176
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,240
So I can sit here and say, you 

know what? 

1177
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:41,760
I know it's crazy, and it might 
 cost me my life, but I believe 

1178
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,520
in the principle of plural 
 
marriage. 

1179
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,640
And this is where I was really 

scratching my chin because I'm 

1180
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,080
like cost you your life. 
 
Like you're comparing these 

1181
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,240
things. 
 
And it's like we, of course, 

1182
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,080
later come to find out the state

 of Utah never charged you for 

1183
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,360
anything. 
 
They were just doing an 

1184
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,760
investigation. 
 
The worst thing that's happened 

1185
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,600
to you in this season was that 

you had to be in an RV with some

1186
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,240
wind for a couple days. 
 
And now you're like, oh God, 

1187
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,240
these people did this thing so I

 can live this life. 

1188
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,240
It's like they'll also love to 

create this narrative of like 

1189
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,600
they, you know, they have 
 
overcome thanks to the people 

1190
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,080
from the past. 
 
And it's like, I thought that 

1191
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,920
you weren't overcome. 
 
I thought that you were still. 

1192
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,560
You're still being prejudice to 
 God. 

1193
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,200
Like people are still prejudice 
 against you. 

1194
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:28,520
So I don't quite get it. 
 
It's really just Kody being able

1195
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,720
to blow hot air, I think. 
 
Yeah, he's pontificating. 

1196
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,477
And then we end with a potluck. 
 

1197
01:06:34,485 --> 01:06:37,942
Nobody says anything else. 
We end with Kody's wise words 
 

1198
01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:41,415
and then they show the Browns 
having a little potluck. 
 

1199
01:06:41,423 --> 01:06:44,340
They're eating at another picnic
table. 
 

1200
01:06:44,348 --> 01:06:49,016
Or outside of Harem's Harem's 
house, they're having a. 
 

1201
01:06:49,024 --> 01:06:49,556
Potluck. 
Yes. 
 

1202
01:06:49,564 --> 01:06:51,470
And is he an adult or a child in
this home? 
 

1203
01:06:51,478 --> 01:06:56,275
We don't know, but they're there
and eating at a plastic picnic 


1204
01:06:56,283 --> 01:06:59,095
table. 
So that's where they leave us. 


1205
01:06:59,103 --> 01:07:02,187
I don't know what I'll say other
than that. 
 

1206
01:07:02,195 --> 01:07:05,064
So. 
Did you all enjoy this journey 


1207
01:07:05,072 --> 01:07:09,098
into Nauvoo like we did? 
We certainly learned a thing or 

1208
01:07:09,098 --> 01:07:11,274
 two. 
We certainly were scarred for 
 

1209
01:07:11,282 --> 01:07:13,034
life. 
We all made it through. 
 

1210
01:07:13,042 --> 01:07:13,960
Amen. 
Amen. 
 

1211
01:07:13,968 --> 01:07:18,095
Your mouth to God's ear. 
My mouth to God's butt. 
 

1212
01:07:18,103 --> 01:07:21,152
You're my Oh, that's not part of
the manosphere, darling. 
 

1213
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,855
It's not. 
Oh well, I should know. 
 

1214
01:07:23,863 --> 01:07:26,365
Time for mustard seed and shit 
stain. 
 

1215
01:07:26,373 --> 01:07:29,560
And I have made jokes about me 
going first and then you going 


1216
01:07:29,568 --> 01:07:31,063
first and I was like that's 
ridiculous. 
 

1217
01:07:31,071 --> 01:07:33,864
No, I'm going first and I 
actually am going first. 
 

1218
01:07:33,872 --> 01:07:36,675
You do it. 
My mustard seed for this episode

1219
01:07:36,675 --> 01:07:40,360

 goes to 1 Meri Brown. 
I have recently given her shit 


1220
01:07:40,368 --> 01:07:42,710
stain that she deserved so bad 
this episode. 
 

1221
01:07:42,718 --> 01:07:46,612
I'm giving her the mustard seed 
because she planned this trip. 


1222
01:07:46,620 --> 01:07:49,345
OK, She did plan the trip 
poorly. 
 

1223
01:07:49,353 --> 01:07:54,216
She just said I can't give her 
any credit for that. 
 

1224
01:07:54,224 --> 01:07:59,688
But when Kody was coming at her 
at in the RV being all like, 
 

1225
01:07:59,696 --> 01:08:03,544
guess what, bitch, I'm mad and 
I'm going to take it out on you.

1226
01:08:03,544 --> 01:08:04,960

 
She was like water off a duck's 

1227
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:05,840
back. 
 
I don't give a shit. 

1228
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:06,869
She's like, I can drive all day.

 

1229
01:08:06,877 --> 01:08:08,608
I can drive all night. 
I can do whatever. 
 

1230
01:08:08,616 --> 01:08:11,980
Also, when the other people were
like, how is it that we never 
 

1231
01:08:11,988 --> 01:08:14,671
get anything done right? 
She's like, do it right and then

1232
01:08:14,671 --> 01:08:18,970

 it'll be done right. 
I just have to give Meri her 
 

1233
01:08:18,978 --> 01:08:24,180
props for being logical when 
she's logical and sarcastic 
 

1234
01:08:24,188 --> 01:08:29,180
slash getting someone's goat 
when she should be sarcastic 
 

1235
01:08:29,188 --> 01:08:33,734
getting someone's goat and being
a driver driving that RV in the 

1236
01:08:33,734 --> 01:08:36,538
 middle of the windstorm being 
like I don't care, no wind's 
 

1237
01:08:36,546 --> 01:08:38,334
going to fuck with me. 
Look at my hair, look at my 
 

1238
01:08:38,341 --> 01:08:40,032
face. 
I've been through it. 
 

1239
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,715
I can keep driving and anyone 
that's going to bust Kody's 
 

1240
01:08:42,723 --> 01:08:44,825
balls like that and keep cool, 
calm and collected. 
 

1241
01:08:44,832 --> 01:08:47,292
Even with dumbass Robyn being 
like I don't get it. 
 

1242
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:49,656
I'm like, good for you girl. 
I don't understand. 
 

1243
01:08:49,663 --> 01:08:54,413
So I go back and forth on Meri. 
I can't be consistent with her 


1244
01:08:54,421 --> 01:08:58,587
in this episode. 
She gets my mustard seed as a 
 

1245
01:08:58,595 --> 01:09:01,144
second class citizen. 
Who do you give? 
 

1246
01:09:01,152 --> 01:09:04,879
Well, as someone who's not 
allowed to vote, I suppose I can

1247
01:09:04,879 --> 01:09:08,500

 vote on this pretend vote. 
Yes, it doesn't count. 
 

1248
01:09:08,508 --> 01:09:12,261
Doesn't count in an American 
election, so I can do it. 
 

1249
01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:14,359
Strike this from the record, but
continue. 
 

1250
01:09:14,368 --> 01:09:20,728
My vote is going to go for one 
of Doctor Sweets. 
 

1251
01:09:20,736 --> 01:09:24,234
Doctor Sweets. 
And it's fair game here. 
 

1252
01:09:24,242 --> 01:09:27,979
OK, Doctor. 
Sweets, that quote about the 
 

1253
01:09:27,988 --> 01:09:32,812
polygamous women that you read. 
From Mark Twain From Misses Mark

1254
01:09:32,812 --> 01:09:36,221

 Twain. 
Yes, it gave us a wonderful 
 

1255
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:41,180
image of Robyn sticking her chin
up, rolling her eyes and getting

1256
01:09:41,180 --> 01:09:43,920

 actually offended. 
And then she sat on the couch 
 

1257
01:09:43,928 --> 01:09:45,707
and joked and pretend she wasn't
really offended. 
 

1258
01:09:45,716 --> 01:09:50,000
And then we got some good stuff 
out of all all the wives about 


1259
01:09:50,008 --> 01:09:52,812
it. 
Mostly we got some stuff out of 

1260
01:09:52,812 --> 01:09:55,580
 Christine about it. 
But yeah, it was pretty 
 

1261
01:09:55,588 --> 01:09:56,544
hilarious. 
It was funny. 
 

1262
01:09:56,552 --> 01:09:59,152
It was. 
I'm not all that familiar with 


1263
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:03,329
Mark Twain, are you? 
No, but Doctor Sweets was a good

1264
01:10:03,329 --> 01:10:07,265

 sport, even if production was 
like, oh, we want you to read 
 

1265
01:10:07,273 --> 01:10:10,205
this quote because it's the 
funniest, or even if they had 
 

1266
01:10:10,213 --> 01:10:13,095
him read multiple quotes and 
that's the one they pulled. 
 

1267
01:10:13,103 --> 01:10:17,150
He was smirking through it, like
he knew it was like ridiculous 


1268
01:10:17,158 --> 01:10:19,055
and funny. 
He was being silly, He. 
 

1269
01:10:19,063 --> 01:10:22,096
Was a diva he. 
Was a good sport about it and he

1270
01:10:22,096 --> 01:10:25,862

 knew that if they pulled that 
he might look bad, but it was 

1271
01:10:25,862 --> 01:10:29,260
also 
 jokey enough that he 
probably wouldn't look bad and 

1272
01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:33,000
he just 
 seemed like a 
genuinely sweet older gentleman 

1273
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,560
that I would 
 take a tour from.
If Doctor Sweetams was giving me

1274
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,972

 a tour of my boyhood, dream 
home, dream home my. 
 

1275
01:10:41,980 --> 01:10:44,400
Boyhood dream home. 
What's? 
 

1276
01:10:44,408 --> 01:10:46,781
Happening right? 
Now I was like, look into the 
 

1277
01:10:46,789 --> 01:10:49,760
crystal ball and I looked and he
was like, you're going to be 
 

1278
01:10:49,768 --> 01:10:51,098
homely and downtrodden and 
whatever. 
 

1279
01:10:51,106 --> 01:10:53,546
I'd be like, this guy's funny, 
so you know. 
 

1280
01:10:53,554 --> 01:10:56,184
All of a sudden he is a fortune 
teller. 
 

1281
01:10:56,192 --> 01:11:01,600
No, Doctor Sweet Sweetum, 
whatever his name is Doctor 
 

1282
01:11:01,608 --> 01:11:02,744
Sweet. 
Doctor Sweet. 
 

1283
01:11:02,752 --> 01:11:06,315
He's great and I agree. 
Mustard seeds all around for 
 

1284
01:11:06,323 --> 01:11:09,100
doctor Sweets. 
I'm dead. 
 

1285
01:11:09,108 --> 01:11:11,260
Are you ready for your shit 
stain? 
 

1286
01:11:11,268 --> 01:11:16,255
I am ready for my shit stain. 
My shit stain, of course, has to

1287
01:11:16,255 --> 01:11:19,336

 go to Robyn Brown because 
Robyn Brown pretended not to 

1288
01:11:19,336 --> 01:11:23,512
know what 
 was going on in the 
RV as a way to be not held 

1289
01:11:23,512 --> 01:11:27,450
accountable and 
 to not have to
like, have any real back and 

1290
01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:30,475
forth and to not 
 have to 
explain anything to anybody. 
 

1291
01:11:30,483 --> 01:11:35,315
And also her reactions to things
that were happening. 
 

1292
01:11:35,323 --> 01:11:39,436
It's like she's really animated 
and trying to get attention and 

1293
01:11:39,436 --> 01:11:43,170
 like her smiles and the way 
that she can't even say her own 

1294
01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:45,608
son's 
 name. 
I mean, she's just pathetic. 
 

1295
01:11:45,616 --> 01:11:48,860
And what is the the jaw that she
has the. 
 

1296
01:11:48,868 --> 01:11:50,300
Hapsburg Jaw. 
Thank you. 
 

1297
01:11:50,308 --> 01:11:53,308
It's like she really needs that 
chisel down like Bethenny 
 

1298
01:11:53,316 --> 01:11:55,725
Frankel did. 
It's just a mess. 
 

1299
01:11:55,733 --> 01:12:00,029
She's terrible and she's awful 
and she is a smear in the 
 

1300
01:12:00,037 --> 01:12:02,260
underwear of the underbelly of 
the world. 
 

1301
01:12:02,268 --> 01:12:04,820
So, Robyn, you get my shit 
stain. 
 

1302
01:12:04,828 --> 01:12:09,174
Yeah, she really has that 
avoidant personality down when 


1303
01:12:09,182 --> 01:12:12,594
it's convenient. 
So Oh yeah yeah yeah, she sure 


1304
01:12:12,602 --> 01:12:16,290
did that when Meri was getting 
yelled at every single turn of 


1305
01:12:16,298 --> 01:12:18,672
the trip. 
I agree. 
 

1306
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:23,485
She is a complete shit stain and
it was ridiculous that she 
 

1307
01:12:23,493 --> 01:12:27,368
couldn't say her son's name has 
a middle name of her great great

1308
01:12:27,368 --> 01:12:30,255

 great grandfather and we had 
to replay it 3 fucking times to 

1309
01:12:30,255 --> 01:12:32,398
 understand what she was saying.
And I literally looked at Chris 

1310
01:12:32,398 --> 01:12:34,505
 and I said should we put the 
captions on right? 
 

1311
01:12:34,513 --> 01:12:36,520
That's how ridiculous it was. 
And I. 
 

1312
01:12:36,528 --> 01:12:38,612
Fear that the captions might not
have been correct. 
 

1313
01:12:38,620 --> 01:12:41,264
They probably wouldn't have 
because we each had written down

1314
01:12:41,264 --> 01:12:44,520

 something different and then 
it turned out to be 1/3 option 

1315
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,144
or a 
 fourth option. 
Even so ridiculous she can't say

1316
01:12:48,144 --> 01:12:53,944

 her son's name and so she gets
a shit stain for sure. 
 

1317
01:12:53,952 --> 01:13:02,322
My shit stain is going to. 
Can it go to Joseph Johnston? 
 

1318
01:13:02,330 --> 01:13:07,230
Mr. JJ and his bowling shirts? 
Is that allowed? 
 

1319
01:13:07,238 --> 01:13:11,030
Listen, you're picking 2 not 
only side characters but one 
 

1320
01:13:11,038 --> 01:13:14,499
time appearing people. 
So OK, you're missing someone. 


1321
01:13:14,507 --> 01:13:18,540
I know, I know, I know that 
there's more. 
 

1322
01:13:18,548 --> 01:13:20,715
Yeah, right. 
Well, that the bowling shirts 
 

1323
01:13:20,723 --> 01:13:23,636
were egregious. 
I if you want to go with our, 
 

1324
01:13:23,644 --> 01:13:25,907
our best friend JJ, you can 
totally do it. 
 

1325
01:13:25,915 --> 01:13:28,556
You, well, you know, you know, 
the reason that I, I'm 
 

1326
01:13:28,564 --> 01:13:31,580
questioning your perception on 
him is because you said he has 


1327
01:13:31,588 --> 01:13:34,184
tart blonde hair. 
He did. 
 

1328
01:13:34,192 --> 01:13:36,186
We're going to look back. 
We're going to watch it back. 
 

1329
01:13:36,194 --> 01:13:38,829
I'm going to pull up a picture. 
Of you'll find it when the like 

1330
01:13:38,829 --> 01:13:41,628
 sun's coming through it and 
you'll be like look. 
 

1331
01:13:41,636 --> 01:13:46,680
I am so prepared for you to be 
wrong and eat your words. 
 

1332
01:13:46,688 --> 01:13:49,148
Listen, I've only been wrong 
three times, and I have been at 

1333
01:13:49,148 --> 01:13:52,870
 it each time. 
You're going to eat the Jesus 
 

1334
01:13:52,878 --> 01:13:55,790
shit stain out of Robyn's 
underwear. 
 

1335
01:13:55,798 --> 01:13:58,072
Put God's tool in my mouth, I 
will eat it. 
 

1336
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,632
All right, if we're not going to
go with JJ because of his 
 

1337
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,820
bowling shirts and his 
ridiculous demeanor, you know, 


1338
01:14:04,828 --> 01:14:07,041
delivering all of you. 
Could do it. 
 

1339
01:14:07,049 --> 01:14:08,895
Honey, I don't. 
Let me talk you out of your 
 

1340
01:14:08,903 --> 01:14:11,144
choices. 
I believe in women's rights. 
 

1341
01:14:11,152 --> 01:14:17,183
I I'm going to do the thing here
that is opposite of you and I 
 

1342
01:14:17,191 --> 01:14:20,547
would say that Meri is my shit 
stain. 
 

1343
01:14:20,555 --> 01:14:26,175
Oh, oh, this is good. 
Bring on the drama. 
 

1344
01:14:26,183 --> 01:14:29,492
Yeah, because she didn't plan 
the trip well. 
 

1345
01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:32,430
She didn't know how to do her 
mile math. 
 

1346
01:14:32,438 --> 01:14:36,240
She didn't factor in for stops 
that the family was going to 
 

1347
01:14:36,248 --> 01:14:39,426
have to make. 
She didn't advocate for an extra

1348
01:14:39,426 --> 01:14:42,052

 day for travel or anything 
necessary. 
 

1349
01:14:42,060 --> 01:14:48,060
It was ridiculous to think that 
this family could do a trip 
 

1350
01:14:48,068 --> 01:14:52,740
across the country in three days
and spend one day and then 
 

1351
01:14:52,748 --> 01:14:56,588
however the fuck they got back 
if they did drive all the way 
 

1352
01:14:56,596 --> 01:14:59,060
back three days back. 
Like what are you doing with 
 

1353
01:14:59,068 --> 01:15:00,662
your life? 
What are you guys doing right 
 

1354
01:15:00,670 --> 01:15:02,229
now that this had to be so 
rushed? 
 

1355
01:15:02,237 --> 01:15:07,115
If it was production, which I 
highly doubt, I don't know, it 


1356
01:15:07,123 --> 01:15:09,470
just could have been done 
completely differently. 
 

1357
01:15:09,478 --> 01:15:13,180
And then she just doesn't want 
to take the shit for it from 
 

1358
01:15:13,188 --> 01:15:16,478
Kody. 
And I do semi applaud her for 
 

1359
01:15:16,486 --> 01:15:20,880
just rolling her eyes and not 
taking a shit. 
 

1360
01:15:20,888 --> 01:15:26,480
But also I think it's negligent 
to keep driving when you're 
 

1361
01:15:26,488 --> 01:15:28,855
probably tired. 
And I think that the only reason

1362
01:15:28,855 --> 01:15:32,134

 that she kept saying she could
drive was to spite Kody. 
 

1363
01:15:32,142 --> 01:15:35,620
Right. 
And you have a fucking RV full 


1364
01:15:35,628 --> 01:15:38,671
of children and you're pushing 
to keep doing this. 
 

1365
01:15:38,679 --> 01:15:42,572
And so part of me sees Kody's 
point in all of this, and I hate

1366
01:15:42,572 --> 01:15:44,160

 to say that. 
Fair. 
 

1367
01:15:44,168 --> 01:15:45,980
Enough. 
There's a big part of me that 
 

1368
01:15:45,988 --> 01:15:48,460
sees the point. 
And no one offered to drive for 

1369
01:15:48,460 --> 01:15:50,750
 her. 
Robyn wasn't jumping and driving

1370
01:15:50,750 --> 01:15:53,666

 that RV. 
So if she's driving on 4 hours 


1371
01:15:53,674 --> 01:15:55,925
of sleep and she's good, she's 
fine, she's dandy. 
 

1372
01:15:55,933 --> 01:15:59,660
She's had 10 red balls. 
It's like you're putting all of 

1373
01:15:59,660 --> 01:16:02,768
 your children and little Sauls 
in his car seat in the back of 


1374
01:16:02,776 --> 01:16:07,854
there and you're putting them 
all at risk, darling, just to 
 

1375
01:16:07,862 --> 01:16:11,588
prove Kody wrong. 
I don't know. 
 

1376
01:16:11,596 --> 01:16:14,080
I am just in shock that you 
didn't pick Kody Brown. 
 

1377
01:16:14,088 --> 01:16:16,688
I am going, wow, girl, you pick 
Meri over Kody. 
 

1378
01:16:16,696 --> 01:16:18,501
You're just. 
Well, she does a lot of things, 

1379
01:16:18,501 --> 01:16:21,700
 and I just also wanted to spite
you as much as she wanted to 
 

1380
01:16:21,708 --> 01:16:24,180
spite Kody Brown. 
Listen, I'm I'm not going to say

1381
01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:27,019

 a word and. 
She had the Grinch, the Grinch 


1382
01:16:27,027 --> 01:16:30,788
eating grin on her face when her
great great great granddaddy 
 

1383
01:16:30,796 --> 01:16:33,440
came up. 
She's so proud of her in 
 

1384
01:16:33,448 --> 01:16:36,232
brightness. 
And you were just so mad at me, 

1385
01:16:36,232 --> 01:16:38,892
 but you know, it's OK because I
did vote to take your rights 
 

1386
01:16:38,900 --> 01:16:41,008
away and all of that. 
So it's all good. 
 

1387
01:16:41,016 --> 01:16:46,116
And you, even in my fake votes, 
voted to take my right of vote 


1388
01:16:46,124 --> 01:16:48,240
away from JJ. 
Oh, that's right. 
 

1389
01:16:48,248 --> 01:16:51,340
Quit pulling rank on me. 
That's all I gotta say. 
 

1390
01:16:51,348 --> 01:16:53,350
Quit pulling rank. 
I'm always telling you what to 


1391
01:16:53,358 --> 01:16:54,624
do in. 
The man card. 
 

1392
01:16:54,632 --> 01:16:57,370
You guys, you should vote me off
the island. 
 

1393
01:16:57,378 --> 01:17:01,148
Okay, so now we're going to do 
our keep suite moment. 
 

1394
01:17:01,156 --> 01:17:04,822
Darling, Our Keep Suite moment 
this week comes to us from 
 

1395
01:17:04,830 --> 01:17:09,120
TikTok and it is from Bonbon who
left us a comment recently that 

1396
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,250
 says I binged all of Sister 
Wives last summer and was 
 

1397
01:17:12,258 --> 01:17:15,309
questioning how much of my life 
I wasted on this family. 
 

1398
01:17:15,317 --> 01:17:18,107
Now I know that it wasn't a 
waste of time. 
 

1399
01:17:18,115 --> 01:17:20,890
It was so I could thoroughly 
enjoy your podcast. 
 

1400
01:17:20,898 --> 01:17:25,406
Your podcast is a delightful 
dessert after a long dried up 
 

1401
01:17:25,414 --> 01:17:27,316
meal. 
Thank you Bonbon. 
 

1402
01:17:27,324 --> 01:17:30,254
A dessert after a long dried up 
meal. 
 

1403
01:17:30,262 --> 01:17:33,775
I want to bon bon after a long 
dried up meal. 
 

1404
01:17:33,783 --> 01:17:35,800
Listen, this is a good connect, 
yes? 
 

1405
01:17:35,808 --> 01:17:39,960
And also, no, you did not waste 
your time, but we are surely 
 

1406
01:17:39,968 --> 01:17:43,720
fucking wasting our time 
watching it and spending hours 


1407
01:17:43,728 --> 01:17:46,995
and hours and hours talking 
through the psychological 
 

1408
01:17:47,003 --> 01:17:49,275
warfare that is the Brown 
family. 
 

1409
01:17:49,283 --> 01:17:54,022
Bon Bon, while we appreciate the
praise, we can't agree that you 

1410
01:17:54,022 --> 01:17:58,190
 wasted your life and your time.
No, because you're listening to 

1411
01:17:58,190 --> 01:17:59,876
 this right now. 
I love that. 
 

1412
01:17:59,884 --> 01:18:03,880
I love it too. 
Our next episode is the season 


1413
01:18:03,888 --> 01:18:08,540
finale of Season 5. 
We've got some big things 
 

1414
01:18:08,548 --> 01:18:11,854
happening, very exciting stuff. 
Hopefully more angels will come 

1415
01:18:11,854 --> 01:18:15,155
 singing. 
Kimber, have you touched God's 


1416
01:18:15,163 --> 01:18:18,705
tool today? 
No, but I could probably make my

1417
01:18:18,705 --> 01:18:20,320

 way to it right now.
