1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Hello world, welcome to my Sister Wives podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,280 I'm Chris. And I'm Allie, we're long time 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,560 friends who had no idea we were both watching the TLC trainwreck 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,440 reality show Sister Wives. Join us as we rewatch Sister 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,760 Wives, maybe have a drink or two, and share what useless 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,920 information and insights we can provide. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,400 Listen to us two deadbeat losers judge the Brown family. 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,400 That's us all right. See you on the. 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Flip side. What does the nanny do? 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,480 OK, so we're done. Goodbye. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,240 You. Shut it off. 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim. 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,960 Sweetie, just look at the mountain. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,480 That's what you saw that day. Just the knife and the kidneys 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,720 over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:15,280 you. Season 1 episode 9 of Sister 17 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,120 Wives, the honeymoon special. I was hoping to start with one 18 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,080 tidbit from Becoming Sister Wives, which is the book that 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,920 you have not read And I have read and I'm not sure there's 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,600 some more things about this book and I don't know how I feel like 21 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,440 we'll incorporate it into the podcast some way. 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,240 But one thing I wanted to point out, well, given that this 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,200 episode is about Codeine Robyn's honeymoon, her first marriage. 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:44,560 OK, so Robyn claims in this book to have been with her ex-husband 25 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:50,080 for they were married for 7 1/2 years, she says, and then 26 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:55,160 separated for 1 1/2 years. So my assumption is that she was 27 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,520 legally married to him for nine years. 28 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,680 But what's weird is that in the in the show and in this book, 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,320 like there's no details about this husband. 30 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,560 There's no details about what's horrible about the story, why 31 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,120 he's such a bad dad, why he was such a bad husband, all these 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,000 things. And I just think it's SUS to be 33 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,920 with someone for 10 plus years and to have no real reason that 34 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:22,600 you can point to on why it is that your children need a new 35 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,520 daddy. And I don't know, I, I, I, you 36 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,560 know, once again, the legal department has told me not to 37 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,560 speculate or to say allegedly, but allegedly Robyn was married 38 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,520 for 10 years to a major asshole and we have no idea why. 39 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,760 So just throwing that out there has a little bit. 40 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,480 Another reason to love Robyn. Right. 41 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,720 Like, I think there's actually a lot of reasons that people would 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,920 keep those details private potentially, right? 43 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:52,480 Like, I don't think everybody has to like, give all the 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,520 information about that stuff to everybody, right? 45 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,920 But you are on a reality TV show where you are getting your 46 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:02,720 polygamist husband to adopt your children. 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,840 So it does kind of warrant a little bit of an explanation 48 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,720 which we are never given. Never given. 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,160 So, you know, whatever. Robyn's, she's an enigma, just 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,720 like Kody. They're both enigmas. 51 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,160 She's Robyning. She's. 52 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,080 She's Robyning OH. It's a verb now. 53 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,880 Yes, she's Robyning. Amen. 54 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,480 So for this episode, it opens with Kody and Robyn in their 55 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,040 honeymoon suite. So they are on their honeymoon. 56 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Obviously they got married in the last episode. 57 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,520 They Kody references 10 months which is a long time to wait in 58 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,200 polygamy. What are your thoughts on this 59 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,560 ten month wait period for them? Well, first I thought it was 60 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,160 nice that they actually clarified the timeframe because 61 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,760 we have been wondering the whole season. 62 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,360 So it's nice that we actually know the duration of that quote 63 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,480 UN quote courtship. Suppose a duration. 64 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,560 Right. And he says that people in their 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,560 culture typically get married or court, sorry, only for like 60 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,720 to 90 days or something is more common. 67 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,400 And so I think it's hard to compare to what it would be like 68 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,920 with a non, I was going to say normal relationship, but we're 69 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,600 not saying normal. We're saying non polygamist 70 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,880 relationship. So I don't know how to compare 71 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,200 the differences. But they did reference it being 72 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,320 something along the lines of it it is hard for the otherwise 73 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:30,520 during courtship because it is kind of this like, weird interim 74 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,560 place, right? Like not fully submersed into 75 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,280 the family, but can't do all the same things. 76 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:40,960 And so, yeah, it's just like a weird dynamic for that courtship 77 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,800 period. So they don't usually drag it on 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,880 very long. Well, and there are theories 79 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,200 online and people have left comments on our very content 80 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,600 about how there are suspicions that they had their spiritual 81 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,680 wedding done before filming. And I've thought this as well, 82 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,600 that perhaps they actually got married before anything that 83 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:11,080 we're seeing because Kody going to Saint George for however long 84 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,640 on his trips, It's a little strange that someone would be 85 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,400 driving 5 hours to another city to stay overnight to visit 86 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,280 someone they're courting. I don't really know how that 87 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,080 goes. I mean, I don't know about long 88 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,240 distance courting in the polygamous culture, but there 89 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,760 just are some things like also questioning about the dress and 90 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,960 how maybe she would have worn a spiritual garb, like a something 91 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,240 maybe a little more than the lines of what Christine wore for 92 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,760 her wedding. You know, something a little 93 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,480 more traditional, something a little more. 94 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,400 Satin trash bag. Speaks speaks to their God and 95 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,160 their unions getting into that celestial Kingdom. 96 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,440 So, you know, there's just a lot of things that are hazy about 97 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,320 that. And at this point, based on what 98 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,320 we've seen, I don't trust the family and I don't trust 99 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,120 production enough to actually tell the truth about that. 100 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,040 Like we're being teed up some things that are definitely TV 101 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,240 show narrative. And so once again, allegedly, 102 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,840 they could have been married before we even started filming. 103 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,200 I don't know. Well, now, I think that if it 104 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:28,240 truly were to be the case, would put a lot of pieces to like some 105 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,800 of the awkwardness in this season. 106 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,840 Like there was awkwardness when they were trying to explain 107 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:36,120 these timelines and things like that. 108 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,440 There was awkwardness with how they explained it to the kids, 109 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:43,600 the weirdness with the dresses on the wedding day. 110 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Right. Like all of that it would. 111 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:52,360 And maybe also explains why Robyn was alone on the morning 112 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,360 of her wedding day because kind of technically they were already 113 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,920 married and they're all just doing the song and dance for a 114 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,640 few months for this TV show. So like. 115 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,920 And Gwendolyn later talks about on an online platform that they 116 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,800 reshot that the scene where they're in the living room and 117 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,000 Kody's say the announcement. Remember the the announcement at 118 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,200 the beginning of the season? Gwendolyn says that that was 119 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,640 reshot. So what happened the first time? 120 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,960 Well, and when Christine was like, and sometimes these are 121 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,000 just things we don't talk about right now. 122 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Yeah. Right. 123 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,800 We are telling our children to lie to, you know, the camera. 124 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,480 That's fine. Yeah. 125 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,480 I mean, that would explain a lot. 126 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,720 It would explain a lot. If we want to jump on a 127 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,200 conspiracy theory, this is one I'm willing to ride. 128 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,760 I'm going to create a series of YouTube videos about the 129 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,080 conspiracy theory. People will be like, wow, he 130 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,360 really needs a life. But at the end of the day, 131 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,760 there's a lot of allegedly with all, with everything we just 132 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,960 said, package it all in an allegedly blanket. 133 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,480 OK, wrap at a nice bow. So then the wives are all on the 134 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,080 couch doing their interviews, and they're talking about how 11 135 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,480 days is a long honeymoon. Janelle says she's illogically 136 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,560 angry. Christine corrects her. 137 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,240 Being like this is not illogically. 138 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,280 It's very logical that you would actually be upset. 139 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,440 And Meri talks about missing him. 140 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,040 Missing Kody is the hardest part. 141 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,560 The other wives seem to be a little less about the missing 142 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,880 Kody and a little bit more about the like everyday function of 143 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,480 their family and how you can't be gone for 11 days with your 144 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,240 new wife. It seemed like everyone was just 145 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,840 sharing, but they didn't really all have the same point of view. 146 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Yeah, I think that sounds accurate. 147 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:38,159 I mean, I really loved Christine telling Janelle that it was not 148 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,919 illogical for her to feel that way, that it was perfectly 149 00:08:40,919 --> 00:08:43,600 normal to feel that way. Yeah, I thought that was really 150 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,280 sweet of her because it's clear that they all handle all of 151 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,080 these situations very differently, right? 152 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Like, and they do have different personalities, and it's not 153 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,880 going to be the same for everybody. 154 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,400 I thought it was clear that they were having a hard time with it. 155 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,480 They get more in depth into that like a little bit later in the 156 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,840 the episode too. But one of the things that I 157 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,200 noticed at the beginning of their couch moment was that they 158 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,280 all were wearing matching purple outfits. 159 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:11,880 Did you? Oh, I. 160 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,720 Missed. This all had on a different, it 161 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,080 was slightly different variations of purple, but one 162 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,760 would have a sweater on, one had an undershirt of purple, one had 163 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,400 maybe some sparklies, I don't remember, but it was funny. 164 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,680 They were all like matchy matchy. 165 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:30,720 I am sure it was not intentional, but it was funny. 166 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,440 Another moment where they were not the maids of honor. 167 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,320 They were not the bridesmaids. They were the advisors. 168 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,440 Actually cut to later in the show when Robyn and Kody then 169 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,040 come join them on the couch. So the three of them are in 170 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,560 matching purple and Robyn and Kody are both in like, Navy blue 171 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:50,520 or something. And it's like, yeah. 172 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,320 Interesting. And then during this interview 173 00:09:54,320 --> 00:10:00,280 portion, Kody talks about how being chased and waiting builds 174 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,320 a relationship of trust between two people. 175 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,720 And you know, my take away from that is talking about the, you 176 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,680 know, we don't have sex, we're not intimate. 177 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:12,480 They use intimate in this show so much and it's obviously the 178 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 it's the watered down PG version of like sex or fucking or 179 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,000 whatever you want to say intimate. 180 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:23,080 So they're not intimate and that builds trust and a relationship 181 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,880 of trust, which I mean, I agree in theory. 182 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,480 I don't really know. I guess maybe the reason that 183 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,520 they have to explain it is because they were probably asked 184 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,360 about it by production. I mean, like, I don't know that 185 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,200 they necessarily would go around saying to everyone like we're 186 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,360 not having sex. I think it's just part of their 187 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,200 background and they need to be emphasizing it because they're 188 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,200 asked about it. Yeah. 189 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,880 I mean, I guess the assumption would likely be that they're not 190 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,000 having sex, right? Like, I don't think anybody 191 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,120 really thought that they potentially were. 192 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,200 I mean, I don't know, I have no idea, but I I mean it all like 193 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,920 it's funny because all the words they say, this happens multiple 194 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,200 times throughout this, this episode. 195 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,920 But like all the words they're saying are right, right. 196 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Like trust is so important. Trust is the crown jewel. 197 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,760 You know, later on Robyn's like, yes, you should do all of this 198 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,160 stuff for your other wives. And this is so important. 199 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,280 It's like all the right words are there, I guess they just 200 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,360 don't ever seem to be or don't continue to be the right actions 201 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,880 down the line, right. So I'm like sure, you can say 202 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,880 trust is the crown jewel Kody Brown, but like you do not 203 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,160 continue that with your family. Like so very, very interesting. 204 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,920 Also, their honeymoon outfits were spectacular. 205 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,520 There is like one particular moment that Kody has on what 206 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,920 kind of pants would you call those? 207 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,840 The white like, not like a canvas pant, but like. 208 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,520 It almost, yeah. It was like linen, but not like. 209 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,320 A very light Beachy linen yes pant with like a blue button up. 210 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,640 And then Robyn had on this skirt and whatever. 211 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Oh my gosh, they just looked like this cute trendy beach 212 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,400 couple living their best life. Except. 213 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,960 For her top was horrible. It was. 214 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,200 Trying to be a cute, trendy beach couple. 215 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,360 It didn't. They didn't succeed. 216 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,840 I I apologize, I was not clear. Yes. 217 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,120 Cause hers had like a tie underneath like in mid torso 218 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,480 like under the boobs and not at a cinch point. 219 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,560 And it was like, what the fuck are you wearing? 220 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,440 Like. Yeah, it was not accentuated 221 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,680 correctly, but worthy of a mention anyway. 222 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:35,320 And yeah, he kept saying like that spiritual bond for 223 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,880 eternity. He used the word serendipitous. 224 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,480 Serendipitous. And so, you know, I think you 225 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,640 can't really call things serendipitous if you seek it out 226 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,880 right. And like there's kind of like an 227 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,160 interview process for it, right? Like I don't think we can say 228 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,440 that was serendipitous right Now, if he tripped over Robyn at 229 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,680 a zoo and then married her the next day, maybe that would be 230 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:06,840 serendipitous. But and. 231 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,440 It's funny to hear you say serendipitous because I think of 232 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,560 a girl, some of the music that you would listen to in your 233 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:19,840 like, preteen teenage years. And then when we're hanging out, 234 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,040 you're like, this is the country music I would listen to as a 235 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,840 teenager. And I'm like, maybe one of the 236 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,880 songs is called serendipitous. I just love the language of it. 237 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,800 It's very kind of like, yeah, like songs from the 90s or 238 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,680 something. I think I mean what you're 239 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:38,160 saying is not inaccurate. However, you could also 240 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,680 potentially be thinking about the actual chick flick 241 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,480 Serendipity Could be that I likely made you watch. 242 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,480 That could be. It definitely has those 90s 243 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,960 songs in it soundtrack, right? So I think maybe we're getting a 244 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,920 few things mixed together there, yes. 245 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,600 Yeah, but it was also very on brand for the Browns to be at 246 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,120 least a decade behind on that. Like, it's like 2010 or 2011. 247 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,680 And he's like serendipity. It's like, that was a 90s thing. 248 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:08,800 Like get it together. John Cusack. 249 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Great movie. Great movie. 250 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Well, and Robyn did reiterate that all the wives and Kody will 251 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,560 be together for eternity and that God told her this. 252 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,800 And we touched on that on the last episode, that there's 253 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,120 conversations happening with these people, with God, and how 254 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,400 we don't hear the voices, but apparently Robyn hears the voice 255 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,080 and they're going to be together for eternity. 256 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,280 And man, don't you wish that God didn't lie to you so much? 257 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,840 Like, wouldn't it be nice if he ever followed through on a 258 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,720 single one of these promises and he's made you stop laughing at 259 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,160 me? Like just, it's right because 260 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,400 these are just self delusions that they're like, you know, 261 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,480 putting on God. And it's like, stop putting this 262 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,160 on God. Like stop putting this on the 263 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,800 creator. Of these, hold them accountable. 264 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,800 If you want to put it all on him, like eventually say dude, 265 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,480 you're fucked up. Like your schizophrenic voices 266 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,160 are not God. Like, just so you know, like, Oh 267 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,800 my gosh. I just can't rationalize any of 268 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,720 it, you know? So all right, you go. 269 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,400 Yeah. And then returning to the couch 270 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,200 with the wives discussing their honeymoons, which we've also 271 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,960 talked about before, where Christine was pretty much 272 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,680 devastated on her wedding day because it was such a nightmare 273 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,120 and Kody had no plans. So I thought she was playing it 274 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,360 pretty cool for this interview because she didn't throw them 275 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,520 under the bus in the way she could have. 276 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,680 But she references that, you know, they went on a long drive, 277 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,080 which I guess means your husband didn't plan anything and you 278 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,680 were, you know, hoping he would. And so now you're just on a long 279 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,360 drive, which Janelle said they did too. 280 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,200 They road trip to Wyoming. She said they were broke. 281 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,600 They were broke which they were broke. 282 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,880 But here's the thing I don't know about Christine's. 283 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,440 OK, And tell me if you have this information. 284 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,240 First of all, I think she said they were listening to like, 285 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Pavarotti or something. This is something like that. 286 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,080 The opera, I was like, it was something classical. 287 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,600 I don't remember what she was this really, really long drive. 288 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Did you ever say how long? Like are we talking just a few 289 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,680 hours? Because again, he didn't really 290 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,120 plan anything. Like Janelle does say it was a 291 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,040 few days, right? I think she references both 3 292 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,760 days and five days. Like it's unclear, but I don't. 293 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,600 I'm assuming I was just assuming that Christine's was hopefully 294 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,520 more than one day like that they drove somewhere, got a hotel. 295 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,480 Like it couldn't have just been an evening of driving. 296 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,080 I hope because it was. This really really long drive. 297 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,400 Yeah, without any other details, at least Janelle did say they 298 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,880 went to Wyoming and. Phantom of the Opera. 299 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Phantom of the. We got, which sounds super 300 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,560 romantic, yeah. In my mind, it's like don't, 301 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,720 don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, 302 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,120 don't, don't, don't, don't. Like. 303 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Wow. Very dramatic, very theatrical. 304 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,000 You know, code. OK, You know, Kody's a drama 305 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,560 queen. Oh my. 306 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,680 God. And then Meri, Meri, she got 307 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,520 sick or something, right? And so they were, like, almost 308 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,920 late to or almost missed their honeymoon. 309 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,040 They went to Jackson Hole, and then they got stuck in a 310 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,720 snowstorm. Yeah, like. 311 00:17:09,358 --> 00:17:12,400 That they were three days behind on their plans because she was 312 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,319 sick. Yes. 313 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:14,920 And then they were stuck in the snow. 314 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:19,118 And I don't know, I've, I kind of glossed over her story. 315 00:17:19,118 --> 00:17:20,400 It seemed a little like, I don't care. 316 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,720 I don't know. Now here, I guess maybe there's 317 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,400 two points here, 1, I don't believe that Kody and Robyn 318 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,480 probably like got on a plane to go to San Diego, right? 319 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,480 So this was kind of a road trip too. 320 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Wouldn't you imagine that they were in his car? 321 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,560 Oh God, were they in his? I don't because I remember 322 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,200 seeing the car later after they'd returned, but I think 323 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,560 they might have been in a rental. 324 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,160 I'm not sure that they would have drove. 325 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,760 Maybe. Yeah, I don't remember seeing 326 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,320 the exterior of the car. So I'm thinking one, maybe they 327 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,720 did a road trip too, which could be a little more comparable. 328 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,520 Then it's just really maybe the location that they went to and 329 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,600 the time frame they were gone, right? 330 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,520 And maybe if they were driving there and it took a couple days 331 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,840 to get there in a couple days to get back, maybe that explained 332 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,480 the 11 days. Maybe they had a seven day, you 333 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,760 know, vacay and two travel days on each side still, you know, 334 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,920 but like, OK, then I would give him a little bit of credit for 335 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,040 it being something a little bit more similar than like buying 336 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,640 plane tickets and flying to California, which ultimately 337 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,960 could be what they did, right? Like I don't know, but I just 338 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,800 had that thought. I think that that seems likely 339 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,720 because the trip from or it could totally be the case 340 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,000 because the trip from outside of Salt Lake to San Diego would be 341 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,840 a good two day drive. Like you wouldn't want to try to 342 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,440 do it in one day. So and they do love their Rd. 343 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,760 trips. These this family drives across 344 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,760 these western half of the United States and now actually the 345 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,680 entire country just because they do like they are always driving 346 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,240 states hundreds, hundreds of miles. 347 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,440 Yeah, but because plane tickets for families of that size are so 348 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,360 expensive. Well, of course, when they're 349 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,520 doing family trips, but just the two of them, I mean, I'm, I'm 350 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,960 not quite sure. I didn't really pay attention to 351 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,960 the vehicle, but they're they're close for distracting enough for 352 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,880 me. My God, Janelle talks about how 353 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Robyn is really getting a different guy than they did. 354 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,680 And it made me think of those 16 years between Christine's 355 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,760 marriage and Robyn's or wedding, excuse me, and Robyn's, and how 356 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,280 much things had changed. And you know, Janelle talks 357 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,560 about how Kody now takes vacations. 358 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,720 He's more of a mature person. Back when they got married, he 359 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,800 was young and they were broke and he seemed to be adverse to 360 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,360 it. And now he at least allows 361 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:37,480 himself to do it, even if by the end he's a wreck in thinking 362 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,880 about being at home, which everyone is. 363 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,120 It's not like that makes him special. 364 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,200 He's evolved, they say. He's. 365 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,920 Evolved. Oh, that's good. 366 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,920 That that word gets used a couple times in the episode I 367 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,480 think, which is. Sure, which I would call him a 368 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Neanderthal, but that would be an insult to Neanderthal, so oh 369 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,920 gosh. Please don't. 370 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,960 And yeah, then Meri kind of says she she feels unimportant a 371 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,920 little bit like like just not or hasn't been important in the 372 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,520 same way as Robyn is at times and. 373 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,000 Yeah, it's just, it's interesting. 374 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,760 Some of the stuff is coming out, and not in like a terrible way, 375 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,720 but some of the additional honesty is happening. 376 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,600 Meri does talk about comparisons of them and like you're saying 377 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,160 to Robyn and how could they not, I think there's this thing that 378 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,880 Kody does where it's kind of obviously Kody's dismissive of 379 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,520 their feelings and what's going on. 380 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,840 But Meri reiterates, how could you not compare? 381 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,920 And literally how could you not compare if you're one of three 382 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480 wives and I one of four, How would you not compare? 383 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Like that's insane that you wouldn't. 384 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520 No, I don't think even if you have the best of intentions 385 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,720 going into a polygamist relationship or any type of 386 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,920 polyamorous relationship or anything like that, I feel like, 387 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,400 yes, in your brain, your logical brain, you're saying, oh, I know 388 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,240 this is going to happen and I'm fine with that, and that's OK. 389 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,640 But what you don't take into consideration is the specific 390 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,640 people, right? Yeah, specific people can make 391 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,840 you react in very different ways. 392 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,880 And so that's unpredictable. You cannot plan for that. 393 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,600 And even as much as you want to say you won't care about this or 394 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,160 you won't care about that, you can't control how you actually 395 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,120 react to or feel about things like it happens. 396 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:25,920 So they're living and breathing that and going, well fuck, we do 397 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,880 love her and we want her here. But also like this is hard. 398 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,400 Yes, yeah. And more than one thing can be 399 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,160 true. Jumping back to Kody and Robyn 400 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,480 in San Diego, and Kody talks about how he thinks he looks 401 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,440 like a surfer dude and that they're there to surf because. 402 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240 And it's just such a great alignment because it's been on 403 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,360 Robyn's bucket list. She's always wanted to go 404 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:53,960 surfing, okay? One clarifying point, it is not 405 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,280 a bucket list, it is a life list. 406 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,280 A life that is true. I'm putting my own vernacular on 407 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,480 that. Okay, so it is a life list and 408 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,920 she is willing to die trying because it is on her life list. 409 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Life list? Yes, that's pretty dramatic to 410 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,520 go surfing. Yes, and if you're not willing 411 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,640 to die trying for things on your life list, what are you willing 412 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,280 to do? You're right, she does say that, 413 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:19,120 yeah. Which I'm wondering where she 414 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,440 picked up life list from. Maybe she just made it up. 415 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,920 No, I think she just said the wrong thing. 416 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,840 Oh yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I think she means once 417 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,200 again. She doesn't really know She. 418 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,960 Doesn't know what she. Says she's like lifeless. 419 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760 If you're not willing to risk your life for your life list 420 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,320 then what's the point of existing? 421 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,480 Like shut the fuck up. Like first of all, life for your 422 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,800 life list is repetitive. Let's not use that. 423 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,520 Second of all, God, she's Robyning again. 424 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000 Yes, Robyn is Robyning. Absolutely. 425 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:53,800 My response that I had written down to Kody's surfer dude nest, 426 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,920 which was disgusting, was in all capital letters, gross. 427 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,280 And I think that was one of six times I write that down 428 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,800 throughout the whole episode. So that was my reoccurring 429 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,360 theme. Gross was There was a lot of 430 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:15,240 gross shit. We've evolved since disgusting, 431 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,680 which I think was wouldn't the very first episode it was like, 432 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,880 what are you looking forward to? And you're like, it's just all 433 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,880 disgusting. Have we evolved though? 434 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,960 I mean, I feel like I'm using a less generous term. 435 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,480 We've lost. A few syllables just corrupts. 436 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,120 The sentiment is still the same. Oh, see second second right 437 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,720 here. Second gross at the top of this 438 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,640 page, flexing in the wet suit. Yes, gross. 439 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,480 The transition into this flex moment is a montage of Robyn and 440 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,640 Kody kissing and hugging and then me watching and puking. 441 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,160 It was disgusting. It was gross. 442 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:58,320 It was gross. It really was gross, the flexing 443 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,280 bit. OK, so he's getting into a wet 444 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,960 suit and kind of like in, but then wants to pull it down. 445 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,880 I'm imagining it was like hot or whatever. 446 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,120 Then he's talking about his body and Robyn says that the wives 447 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:14,840 tell her he's always flexing in the mirror and she wondered if 448 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,080 it's over the top. Of course it's over the top. 449 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,400 I don't even know what to say about it. 450 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,440 Actually, one of the, when she said that the wives had said 451 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,200 that to her, she goes, that was one of the things they put in 452 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,760 the Kody Survival kit. We have the third thing now, 453 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,440 celery salt and something about Kody flexing. 454 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,480 I don't actually know where the survival part it maybe it was 455 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,240 just like prepare yourself you're going to have to deal 456 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,800 with. That maybe Meri laminated a 457 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,480 note. Oh my God, maybe they gave her a 458 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,840 mirror and said because then she did flex. 459 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320 She was flexing too. Also, I will give her credit. 460 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,120 Her muscles looked OK. All right, you. 461 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,400 Know the girl's skinny? Yeah, but she flat. 462 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,040 Well, no, but she actually had some tone to her arms in 463 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,800 different places. I'm going to give her a tone 464 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,200 that I don't have, certainly so. But yeah, I don't know what the 465 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,960 actual survival tip was with that one. 466 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,920 So. Yeah. 467 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,120 How do you survive Kody? Like you will have to witness 468 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,200 him flexing. I mean that is maybe a survival 469 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,320 skill is surviving. Maybe they slitter some, you 470 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,680 know, melatonin under the table like, I don't know. 471 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,280 Here's some Saint John's port. Oh, my God. 472 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,880 I know, I know. Yeah. 473 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Like, what do you give a polygamist when their husband's 474 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,240 a narcissist? A1 way ticket out of Utah. 475 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,880 Divorce. And so then we cut back to the 476 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,560 wives packing for a picnic, which given the size of their 477 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840 family, of course it's going to be a thing. 478 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,120 I always get a little eye roll when they talk about the number 479 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,480 of people and how they have to get them all put together. 480 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,120 Now I am an uncle to a family with several children. 481 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,520 I've been around many children with parents. 482 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,520 I understand the concept but they really take liberty with 483 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,560 this concept. Like make it seem like they are 484 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,280 driving to another state and it's like you're going to the 485 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,320 park for a picnic. How could this take hours to do? 486 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,280 It kind of blows my mind. And that's funny because in my 487 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,760 mind, as I'm watching it, all I'm thinking about is I would 488 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,600 rather jump off a bridge than get that many kids ready to go 489 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,120 to a picnic. Totally so. 490 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,600 I Yes. I'm definitely the one without 491 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,600 child on this podcast. I'm actually like God bless them 492 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,920 for trying because I would not leave that fucking house. 493 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Right. We're having a picnic in the 494 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,760 backyard, kids. Yeah. 495 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,840 I would not favorite moment about that though, and I think 496 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,920 you know it too. Janelle goes to the refrigerator 497 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,000 and she pulls out a red ball. Yep. 498 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:45,600 And she said I need some caffeine so I can be a good mom. 499 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:51,680 Today I was like yes girl, yes, wait until you try alcohol. 500 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,280 You know, like. I totally gave you the eyes at 501 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,400 that moment because I was like, yes, I feel like I may have 502 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,440 actually heard this exact sentence. 503 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,120 Like, I need caffeine so I can be a good mom. 504 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,240 Like, Yep. Amen. 505 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,800 It was so funny. And the teenage girls were being 506 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,560 sarcastic and making fun of it, which I thought was great 507 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,240 because it was so like, if I was 14 or 15 and my parents were 508 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,920 like, we're going on a picnic, I'd be like, fuck yourself in my 509 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,040 brain, you know? But then I'd be like, sounds 510 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,200 good. Actually, that didn't happen in 511 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,440 my We weren't going on picnics when I was 15, generally. 512 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,280 We didn't leave the house, OK? Yeah, when we left the house, it 513 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,800 was like to get in a station wagon to drive to another state 514 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,720 and then hate each other by the time we get back. 515 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,560 We didn't go on picnics. But maybe a cooler to a beach 516 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,400 where everybody could disperse themselves and not be seen or 517 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,000 heard from for hours. You know, like maybe that. 518 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,320 Totally, totally. I'm kidding, mom. 519 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,720 Well, we both grew up out in the country, so there were 520 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,920 opportunities to do things on our own. 521 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,640 I mean, I don't want to say that my family never did anything 522 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,720 together. We certainly did. 523 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,440 But yeah, we weren't. Also, there's the lens of 524 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,360 production. Like they got to do something 525 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:58,280 right. So like, let's go on a picnic. 526 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,640 Right. Again, this wasn't by choice. 527 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,680 Right. No, it wasn't by choice for 528 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,240 pretty much anyone, and the girls made that very clear. 529 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,800 We can't only let Robyn be the one filming right now. 530 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,040 We all have to be filming. So let's figure out something to 531 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,840 film. Yes, yes. 532 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,520 After Janelle grabs her Red Bull out of the fridge and we have 533 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,560 the very relatable moment of being a good mother through 534 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,480 caffeine, she says that she's unhappy with the number of days 535 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,640 that Kody and Robyn will be gone and that it takes away from 536 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,720 their already existing family. And one thing that we give 537 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,120 Janelle her flowers for is that she is fairly direct. 538 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,680 I think sometimes she omits plenty, but she just kind of 539 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,600 says it as it is and so she's just like, we're missing days 540 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,080 with Kody and I'm unhappy about it. 541 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,440 Yeah, she's basically like, I am mad about this and that is just 542 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,240 matter of fact, I am mad. And then we get to points in the 543 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,040 episode when they're in other interviews and she's like, you 544 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,800 know, I, I kind of get it, but I'm still kind of mad. 545 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,160 But I've really tried to let it go. 546 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,920 And then she gets to the point where she's like, I guess I 547 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,200 haven't let it go because I am still really mad about it. 548 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,880 Like it takes a journey. The whole yes, she. 549 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,680 Feels about which I enjoy seeing from Janelle because the you 550 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,200 know, they they typecast her they stereotype her as this 551 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,320 unfeeler and that's just not true. 552 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,720 She expresses herself in a different way, like and probably 553 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200 goes through her emotions in whatever way that she does. 554 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,360 It doesn't mean she doesn't have them. 555 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,920 I'm jumping all over the place. I'm sorry, but it was the roller 556 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,080 coaster of an episode, right? There was a time that they were 557 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,080 all talking and they referred to Janelle as just not as needy as 558 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,120 the others in that way. Like she just wasn't as needy of 559 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,040 that attention. And she said, you're right, I 560 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,640 wasn't that. And she really wasn't. 561 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,720 She was independent. She did want to do her own 562 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,240 things. And then she just reached that 563 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,920 plateau and that level of like, Nope, now is when I actually 564 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,280 need someone and I need you. And if you can't be here for me, 565 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,560 then like, she's starting to realize what she does need. 566 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,000 And I'm so glad that she's actually saying it out loud. 567 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,600 And she did acknowledge a couple of times, too, how she was being 568 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,320 real and honest. And this is true. 569 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,880 And this is how their lives are. And these are the emotions they 570 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,520 go through. And yeah, I thought, I thought 571 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,520 that was great. But yeah, it was kind of like 572 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,560 she's pissed. And on a relatable note too, 573 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,360 with Janelle, like we've all experienced things where people 574 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,840 don't, they gloss over or they Polish or they make us sound a 575 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,000 certain way because we are strong or we haven't reached out 576 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,040 in certain ways. We aren't needy, quote UN quote 577 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,880 about things. And then people create these 578 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,480 stereotypes about us that are a little unfair because it doesn't 579 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,440 mean that we don't need something, It doesn't mean we 580 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,920 don't feel, it doesn't mean we aren't experiencing. 581 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,520 So I do appreciate that it seems like maybe Janelle's leaning in 582 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,840 a little bit to actually sharing her emotions, which is great. 583 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,000 Another amazing moment for me was the mothers asking all the 584 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,560 kids if they've used the bathroom before they leave for 585 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,000 this picnic. They intentionally do this with 586 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360 editing. They show it so many times, like 587 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,320 all of the wise being like, did you go to the bathroom? 588 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,160 Did you use the restroom? Did you go to the bathroom? 589 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,440 And I love it because when I was a kid, my mother would be like, 590 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,440 did you use the bathroom? Did you go to the bathroom? 591 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360 We're not going to stop for you. And it just is such a like 592 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,680 burned into my brain thing from childhood was being like, just 593 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,000 go fucking pissed like pee before we leave. 594 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,760 Well, I don't have to. I don't care. 595 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,520 Sit on the toilet, stand there, do whatever you need to do 596 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,400 because we are not stopping. And then, you know, we're, well, 597 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,080 they'll have bathrooms there. Where are the bathrooms? 598 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,960 Well, they're trees. We're going to have a picnic in 599 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,720 the forest. I just, I don't know, there's 600 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,200 something nostalgic to me about being told to use the bathroom. 601 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,280 My God. Listen, I still tell my teenager 602 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,760 to use the bathroom before we go anywhere, and sometimes he'll 603 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,480 say I don't have to. And I will say I really think it 604 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,120 would be a good idea if you did. But I think part of it is that 605 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,320 I've trained him a little bit because when he tells me he has 606 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,960 to go to the bathroom when we're driving, I do not stop 607 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,960 immediately. And I forget about it for 608 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,440 usually for at least 30 minutes. Intentionally. 609 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,480 Yeah. Because listen, here, you can 610 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,480 wait. You can, you know, So I'm not 611 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,160 that cruel, but kind of. I do though, actually. 612 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,920 She she drives for two hours and says hold it. 613 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760 I mean, it's usually like 30 to 45 minutes. 614 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,960 Yes. Yeah, sometimes we're in the 615 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,640 middle of the nowhere and there's not a bathroom, so, you 616 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,080 know, you gotta do. Reinforcing the lesson like 617 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,320 literally pee before we leave does it. 618 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,800 As a man of a certain age, I can say that I have learned the 619 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,680 lesson. You pee before you leave. 620 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,960 I pee before I leave my 7 minute drive home right? 621 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,040 And then still sometimes pee when I get home. 622 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,280 Like, I don't know, it's just like the habit, the routine. 623 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:41,280 Exactly. 100 My favorite moment was as they were all wrangling 624 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,680 to go to the car, Gwendolyn comes to the front door. 625 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,040 Did you see this? And she comes to the front door 626 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,960 and she's got her like arms in the doorway and she goes last 627 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:57,880 one in the car is a loser. Oh my gosh, I do remember the 628 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,280 moment, but I didn't hear what she said it. 629 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,200 Was so cute. I was like you fucking get him. 630 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,920 That is great. Nobody wants to be the loser. 631 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,160 Loser. I don't know if it was effective 632 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,200 or not, but I give her huge props. 633 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,640 And how smart was that girl even back then? 634 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,800 OK, Like she knew what she was doing. 635 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,840 That's great. I love that. 636 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,320 So Gwendolyn was adorable and then Meri's getting in the car 637 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,040 and she goes. Such an ordeal for a stupid 638 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,640 little picnic. Yeah, yeah. 639 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Yeah. Amen, Meri. 640 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,160 This is it. This is why we don't leave our 641 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,040 house, you know? Doing things is overrated. 642 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,920 Like it is an effort. So yeah, what a journey. 643 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,000 Returning to San Diego, My narrator voice came out. 644 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,720 Returning to San Diego, Kody and Robyn are at the beach and I 645 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,280 have to take a second to say their surfing instructor. 646 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,800 Oh. Girl, my inner 18 year old 647 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,600 discovering myself homosexual was like my radar was turned on 648 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,120 their surfer. My 40 year old adult woman 649 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,239 version was like yes please Oh my God you're a cougar. 650 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,920 He's young enough to be your child, Allison. 651 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,880 I can't tell you. I know, I know. 652 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,320 We're not putting it on the Internet. 653 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,920 Exactly. We're not doing that. 654 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,840 The but the the instructor, OK, so he was totally my type for 655 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,920 when I was younger. So now he is not my type 656 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,800 anymore. Clearly. 657 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,840 I mean, I shouldn't say clearly I'm a little too old for the 658 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,679 young surfer, but that like blonde hair, the tan, he was so 659 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,960 cute and he's doing what he likes. 660 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,520 Like he's young enough to still do that, but he's doing what he 661 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,679 loves. Like, he's showing people how to 662 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,400 surf. He had like, this natural thing 663 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,880 about him. I was like, oh, God, if I was 664 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,960 18, I'd be like, when I think about you, I touch myself. 665 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,600 Oh. How jealous do you think Kody 666 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,680 Brown was? Oh yeah, Kody was probably like, 667 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,800 Oh yeah, I got I'm one up on him, like. 668 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,280 That's why he was flexing the whole day, you know, not like it 669 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,040 was helping your case, buddy. Not like it was moving you, 670 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,160 moving the needle, but you know. Excuse me, Sir, we're going to 671 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,240 have to ask you to step out of the Hollister store. 672 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,080 This guys the manager like you need to leave. 673 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,840 Yeah, they oh, the music, the music. 674 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,200 Oh God, do you. It was like a like a that's 675 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,640 terrible like. Beach Boys, Yeah. 676 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,400 It was a Beach Boys. It was exactly like a Beach 677 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,840 Boys. It was hysterical. 678 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,200 I was just like, OK. And then Kody kept falling off. 679 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,960 Robyn kept falling off. They were terrible, of course, 680 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,840 terrible. And he said, I don't even care. 681 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,640 What did he So he only cares about being married. 682 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,960 He doesn't even care if he can get up on the surfboard. 683 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,600 It's like, you fucking liar. Yeah, you get you. 684 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,760 You're lucky you have this as an excuse because you certainly 685 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,360 care. Your big ass ego was bruised 686 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,800 because you think you should be able to do everything. 687 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,720 Like get the fuck out of here. It was running through my mind 688 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:11,320 that there is no irony that while surfing, Kody couldn't get 689 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,440 up. He could not get it up, he could 690 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,520 not do it, and afterwards had a perfectly normal explanation on 691 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,840 why he's just so happy to be married like. 692 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,560 So happy. Gross. 693 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,240 Yeah, I was happy Robyn wasn't successful, though. 694 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,280 Like legit, I was worried at one point that like, what if she 695 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,680 kills this? What if she gets up and is like 696 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,120 a surfing champion and then I watched her walk a little bit 697 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,760 later in the episode? I'm like, no, she's a slow 698 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Walker. She certainly can't hop up on a 699 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,920 surfboard. She has less core strength than 700 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,040 me. And that's saying and. 701 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,040 That's Yeah. Like she can barely stand up 702 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,960 straight. No. 703 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,560 And then they transitioned into Kody and Robyn going to the San 704 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,880 Diego Wild Animal Park. Now, I thought this was an 705 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,160 interesting choice. And I don't know, you know, 706 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,680 splitting hair. Oh, I shouldn't say splitting 707 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,040 hairs. I don't know the production 708 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,200 details on this, but I thought it was a little odd that the San 709 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,600 Diego Zoo is literally like one of the most famous zoos on the 710 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,880 planet. Like San Diego Zoo is a big deal 711 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,200 and they're filming at the San Diego Wild Animal Park. 712 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,960 So I kind of thought it was funny that me, I wonder if they 713 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,080 didn't get permission to film at the San Diego Zoo. 714 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,560 But also the grounds looked great. 715 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,880 I mean, it looked like a literal zoo. 716 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,960 There were a lot of animals. There was a lot of space, there 717 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,960 was a lot of things going on. So I don't want to make it sound 718 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,600 like they were at like the Tiger King Zoo or something. 719 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,080 The. Tiger King Zoo. 720 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,880 You know, it looked like a legit place, but I also was like, 721 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,720 really? You're in San Diego and you went 722 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:44,360 to some other zoo interest? It's like going to Philadelphia 723 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,280 and being like, we're not looking at cream cheese or a 724 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,560 cracked bell. We're here for the nachos, 725 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,760 Christine. And you know, it's weird. 726 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:57,200 I also noted the music. It was like an instrumental 727 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,320 version of like Groove is in the heart. 728 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,800 Like what? Like, it was something like 729 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,360 that. Like, I was trying to place the 730 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,080 song and I was like, what is it? And that's what it was 731 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,000 groundbreaking. Kody Brown learned that the 732 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,120 animal Kingdom is a lot polygamist. 733 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,640 Yeah. And he just. 734 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:19,520 Full of polygamists. Couldn't believe it, couldn't 735 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,240 believe it. Yes yes their guide says that 736 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:27,960 there is a stud it was several females and the female cycles 737 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,520 align like humans and the females stick together and the 738 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,800 male is used for reproduction. I mean it all sounds fine to me. 739 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,000 I I guess I didn't connect the dots to polygamy, but. 740 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,360 Well, I mean, I do, but it's also like, duh. 741 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,120 Right. That's what happens in the 742 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,480 animal Kingdom. Like, duh, of course it is. 743 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:58,000 And the fact that he kind of chose to speak about his wife's 744 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:04,040 menstrual cycles, I thought was interesting. 745 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920 I don't know if he really like intentionally did it or he 746 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,240 thought it was going to be like kind of obtuse and that people 747 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,400 wouldn't understand what he was talking about. 748 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,840 I, I don't know. That seemed a lot for me. 749 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,880 It's totally accurate. I mean 100% accurate. 750 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:25,680 That likely his wives cycles a line and that shit is crazy, but 751 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,040 it does happen. But the fact that he had the 752 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,600 balls to kind of talk about it I thought was interesting. 753 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,280 I don't know if we get a wife reaction to that anytime down 754 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,240 the line. I doubt that we do, but. 755 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,480 No, I and I'm even. Yeah, I'm not quite sure. 756 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,480 Yeah. So then we returned to the park 757 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,760 now. OK. 758 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,360 And I, we should have started off the episode by saying this. 759 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,920 We discussed it right before recording. 760 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,600 This episode's all over the place like they are, even though 761 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,440 there is a honeymoon and a picnic and then a wrap up at the 762 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,040 end, that doesn't sound like a lot, but they are back and forth 763 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,280 all over the place. So if you're listening to us and 764 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,240 you're going like, what? Why are they talking about 765 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,960 somebody? Why are they back and forth so 766 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,320 much? It's because literally the 767 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,720 episode was like. San Diego, Utah. 768 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,520 San Diego, Utah, Like they would show like a sentence or two and 769 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,080 then be back to the previous scene. 770 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,680 It was all over the place. How many cocktails have they 771 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,600 had? My God, you know. 772 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,000 The editors. Yeah, no us like. 773 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,880 Us all right? Like how drunk are they? 774 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,680 How drunk are they? Why can't they follow a train of 775 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,320 thought? That's because that's how the 776 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,360 show was. Yes, the show was all over the 777 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,080 place. So we returned to the park where 778 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,080 the picnic is happening. And my the first thing that I 779 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,800 noticed was that Meri hands Isabel a plastic bag out of the 780 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,240 car, and she says something like it has knives to be careful. 781 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,400 And I'm like, why on God's green earth are you putting sharp 782 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,680 knives in a plastic bag and then telling the child to be careful? 783 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,080 It just reminded me of this family's kind of like ineptness 784 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,840 with basic things, like there's no way everything they brought 785 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,160 was in plastic bags. Why wouldn't you even put it in 786 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,120 a paper bag? Even in a tote? 787 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,960 I mean, I Yeah, like a canvas bag. 788 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,840 I don't understand it. Don't. 789 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,440 Chris, they don't have canvas bags, they have grocery bags. 790 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,040 Well, they love their plastic bags. 791 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,440 These people love contributing to a landfill and that is a 792 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,040 topic for a whole nother time. But literally like we put the 793 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,280 sharp knives in plastic bags. Like God, just dumb. 794 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,200 Just dumb. I didn't even analyze the bag 795 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,600 situation at all. I was more like, yeah, sure, 796 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,600 hand that to the kid. Like not even this the bag 797 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,240 specific, just like maybe the adults would carry that. 798 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,120 Like, I would not send my child with that bag because I know 799 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,880 exactly what he's going to fucking do with it, you know? 800 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,000 Well, Isabel was literally like under 10, like a small child. 801 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,920 Here's a bag of knives. Be careful even though there's 802 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,000 other adults around. Just whatever. 803 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,800 And Meri also points out that the kids have all been accepting 804 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,160 of each other with the merging of their families, that Robyn's 805 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,920 kids are fitting in like a glove. 806 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,800 And I believe her. Yeah, it seemed almost 807 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,600 believable up until she called their kids the original kids. 808 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:19,920 And I just thought that was an interesting way to, you know, 809 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,400 and she's not. Well, no, I. 810 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,240 Yeah, yeah. Like, no, that you that's not 811 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:29,600 the right thing to say. Yeah, it is like other ring 812 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,720 Robyn's kids. Yeah, yeah. 813 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,560 I mean, and Robyn's kids have always been kids. 814 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,040 They just weren't in that family. 815 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,360 But like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. 816 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,520 I don't think she meant it negatively. 817 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,960 It was said positively. It just rubbed me the wrong way. 818 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,560 Well, it's one of those things where it's like those are the 819 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,840 kind of things that happened that do make people feel 820 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,880 ostracized in circumstances. That's something that was 821 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,320 discussed in our last episode about Robyn being made to feel 822 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520 other than throughout the entire time. 823 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,040 And why? What part does that have to do 824 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,360 with her behavior and the way that she behaves? 825 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:09,520 And if her kids are othered in these micro aggressive, I don't 826 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,760 know, micro ways, then you know that that says something. 827 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,960 It says something. Like throwing the original kids 828 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,880 off the cuff like that, like, I don't know. 829 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,000 That's a yeah. Anyway, it's a thing, not a feel 830 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,280 good term. I didn't think. 831 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,440 Yeah. Then they go back to the 832 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,360 honeymoon. Yeah. 833 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,280 And I'm unclear if this was at the. 834 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,160 Oh, it was still at the zoo. Yes, yes, yes. 835 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,480 It was still at the zoo because they did a zip line. 836 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,360 Flight Line flight. Line was. 837 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,200 What it's called? A zip line over the park. 838 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,040 They're going to be going 40 mph at some point, is what they say. 839 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,360 Yes, yes, and then Kody is standing up there on this. 840 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,920 Oh my God, here's another girl. Oh no, I actually didn't have 841 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,720 gross written down here if that's coming later, but I 842 00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:03,000 gagged a little when I was about to say it so it'll take a lot to 843 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000 scare me. Ha ha ha, Kody Brown. 844 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,640 Like God you fucking loser, stop it. 845 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,640 I have 4 wives, nothing scares me but poverty. 846 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,400 Oh, only fear is poverty, Yeah. This is where that quote 847 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,440 originates, and it's funny because 15 years later people 848 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,600 are still using it to point out that it's like, I thought the 849 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,680 only fear you had was poverty. Why is it that you're seemingly 850 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,440 so afraid of so many things? Kody Brown. 851 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,440 Oh my God, yes, gross, gross, gross. 852 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,760 And I didn't even have it written there. 853 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,520 And Robyn, well, and Robyn sitting right there next to him, 854 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,040 I couldn't help but have flashes to her later spending issues and 855 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,320 how she is going to spend him into the poor house that he's 856 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,360 making reference to how his only fear is poverty. 857 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,160 His new wife is sitting next to him, who eventually will spend 858 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,840 thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on 859 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,440 unnecessary things. I think we can say hundreds and 860 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,240 thousands of dollars. Yeah, Yeah. 861 00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:59,720 By the tallies that exist online today, yeah. 862 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,320 At least six figures of excess spending. 863 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:08,160 And like my how the tables can turn right like the the things 864 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,880 that will drive people over the edge. 865 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,880 But for one other specific person 0 concern any longer. 866 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,360 Like we will. You bet you want that $10,000 867 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,920 painting. Let's go get it. 868 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,160 I love it too. What? 869 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,880 And they're anyway. Never mind. 870 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,360 Yeah, terrible. They do their friend little zip 871 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,520 lining adventure. They both were like spread eagle 872 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,520 like as they landed on the platform. 873 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,440 Did you notice that like their legs were at this like weird 874 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,440 like wide VI. Don't know if that was an 875 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,440 instruction. It just looked awkward and I 876 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,680 hated it. I must have had a like trauma 877 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,480 block response. Oh, it was, it was awful. 878 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,120 And then what they they start like exploring the park a little 879 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,080 bit more and like at that point, literally the zoo animals are 880 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,920 more interesting than Kody and Robyn. 881 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,200 Like there is nothing exciting. Like they're being lovey dovey 882 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,920 and whatever, but it's just like I roll and. 883 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,160 Another example with the male lions having applied that 884 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,040 there's one male and several females. 885 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,200 So Kody's just reinforced with his polygamous theory of nature 886 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,560 while standing next to his boring ass wife. 887 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,800 But he looks at that male lion with his three females and says 888 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,920 he's just getting started. Gross. 889 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,040 That's where I had Gross written down. 890 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,120 And with all of the back and forth with this episode, I mean, 891 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,240 we have really already discussed so much. 892 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,920 I think it would maybe be a good time to take a break and to 893 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,480 circle back to this on our next episode. 894 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,240 There's a lot to process and I think that there's still a lot 895 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:49,560 we want to talk about because there's a lot that happens to 896 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,880 kind of finish up the season It it was a wild ride. 897 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,120 Yeah, so we're going to take a break and we're going to return 898 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,360 next week with the second-half of the ninth episode of this 899 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,640 season and leading into the next season of Sister Wives talking 900 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,880 about their very first episode, they take a trip to New York to 901 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,160 talk about their new life, their new public life. 902 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,200 So as always, we will be seeing you on the flip side. 903 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,080 See you next time.