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Hello world, welcome to my 
Sister Wives podcast. 

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I'm Chris. 
And I'm Allie, we're long time 

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friends who had no idea we were 
both watching the TLC trainwreck

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reality show Sister Wives. 
Join us as we rewatch Sister 

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Wives, maybe have a drink or 
two, and share what useless 

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information and insights we can 
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Listen to us two deadbeat losers
judge the Brown family. 

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That's us all right. 
See you on the. 

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Flip side. 
What does the nanny do? 

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OK, so we're done. 
Goodbye. 

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You. 
Shut it off. 

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Do not twist my words. 
Do not make me a victim. 

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Sweetie, just look at the 
mountain. 

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That's what you saw that day. 
Just the knife and the kidneys 

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over. 
All these. 

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Years and the sacrifices that I 
made to love you. 

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Season 2 Episode 2 Free Range 
Browns So the Brown family we're

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just so in love with the Brown 
family and we're so excited to 

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see more of their adventures. 
Yeah, I second that. 

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Definitely. 
This was a cute 1. 

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You know, I, I, I would say it 
was good. 

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They start the episode with Kody
reminding us that that they've 

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heard about the investigation in
the last episode, which we 

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covered from the Lehigh Police 
Department, and that everyone is

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stressed. 
Obviously they're stressed 

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because they found out they're 
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police and that they want to go 
to Wyoming as a getaway and that

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they're going to work with Uncle
Tim on the family ranch, is what

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they tell us in this 
introduction. 

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Yes, yes. 
That. 

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It's been stressful, it's been 
heavy. 

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It's been hard for the kids, you
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everybody to take a break and 
get away and let off some steam.

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Maybe one of the references or 
something? 

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When they're talking about their
planning, they say that Janelle 

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is going up a day later along 
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And it's fun because they do a 
cutaway to Janelle talking about

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how she's working. 
And so she kind of gives that 

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example of, oh, it's nice that 
there's people that can take my 

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kids ahead while I'm I can't get
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later. 
I think her smile, there's 

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something about Janelle's talk 
about other people doing things 

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for her kids that I think is 
whatever it is. 

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It's just interesting how 
there's other people doing 

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things for her kids and she is 
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Listen, she knew she won the 
lottery. 

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Yeah, because she does not have 
to travel in vans with all of 

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these children for what is 
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that turns into like a 48 hour 
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And the kids made jokes like 
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like, ha ha, it's an 8 hour 
trip. 

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But really for us it's 12 and it
took them two days. 

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Yeah, I think it was 48 hours. 
Well, this is it, yes. 

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And I can't. 
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remember the times because 
everyone was making different 

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references to different times. 
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Hunter at one point in time that
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and he goes, Oh yeah, So 6. 
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Hunter's like a younger 
teenager, but he already knows 

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their deal. 
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4:30. 
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thought that he said their trip 
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that it was going to take 8 or 
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Now maybe it was supposed to be 
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And he references that it's 
going to be a longer trip, which

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I love how the older kids 
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the math is math thing from what
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And then when they do actually 
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in the cars and they're driving 
and Christine's like, well, it's

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6:00 and we're leaving and it's 
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I so just they rounding people 
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and they didn't drag on about 
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But it was like, I know what 
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people in a car. 
That alone is torture. 

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Yeah, I would need medication 
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I need a Xanax prescription to 
get through loading those 

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vehicles. 
Like no way, No way. 

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Oh, you would do great, honey. 
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Have you met me? 
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interview with the adults and 
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really trying to keep the stress
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So while this is going on, I 
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stress of actually getting all 
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this thing which every trip for 
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they're also trying to keep the 
kids distracted or keep their 

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mind off of the things that are 
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And I guess I mean, that makes 
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It was in like all the chaos of 
them kind of preparing and 

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stuff. 
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of the kids was pushing Truly in
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the living room. 
You know, like a diaper box with

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the top ripped off and just and 
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back and she's like flung 
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I mean, it was pretty cute. 
It wasn't like dangerous by any 

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stretch, but it was just like, 
OK, that's a choice. 

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And then as far as the 
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yeah, they did kind of a 
flashback to there's a little 

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Gwendolyn in the basement window
staring out and, oh, there's 

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more guys out there, you know? 
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yeah. 
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only protect them so much. 
And they're going to see what's 

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happening, just like the older 
kids reading the blogs and stuff

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last week, right? 
Like, they're trying. 

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But the reality is their kids 
are a part of this and they're 

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going to have to deal with that.
And Robin does say that, that 

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you know the kids are going to 
pick up on even things from the 

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adults. 
And it does pain me to hear 

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Robin say a logical statement, 
but I don't want to give her any

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credit for it. 
She did say that, but I don't 

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want to give her any credit. 
Yes, they will still fill the 

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adults energy. 
They will said fill fill it. 

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I I wrote it out FILL they will 
fill the adults energy. 

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Oh yeah, Robin, she says a lot 
this episode and we'll, we'll, 

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we'll circle back to some of 
those things she talks about 

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because wow. 
It just there was a funny moment

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to me when Kody talks about he 
how he has an hour alone at the 

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house and how he was going to go
back to work and he's like, I'm 

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not going to go back to work now
because I'm the house alone for 

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an hour. 
And I'm like, oh God, I can't 

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imagine. 
I can't imagine. 

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No, like how often at that point
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not have family members around 
him, right? 

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You know, short of at work 
during the day, that's. 

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Why work was? 
Right, even if he. 

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Wasn't making much money, which 
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because that's kind of The thing
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never made very much money and 
like, OK, don't want to shame 

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someone for that. 
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and gone more than what his 
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The math was probably not 
mapping on that. 

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He was probably gone because he 
got time alone. 

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He could drive by himself. 
Yes, yes. 

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And it, it was funny because I 
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like, that's really not a lot of
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But when you are not used to 
having time by yourself, an hour

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must seem like an eternity, just
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Well, it's awfully quiet in 
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I just can't quite picture it. 
That was pretty good. 

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That was pretty good. 
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Then they finally depart, right 
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right on schedule 430. 
And Chris, how far did they make

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it? 
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the house, and Robin's car 
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the side of the road they're at.
They're only an hour away from 

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home, and they say that they are
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road for three hours. 
They show footage of semis 

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driving by. 
And, you know, and Meri's like, 

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oh, God, I got the drama. 
Whenever we go anywhere, it's 

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like, OK, thanks, Meri, for your
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But then they got a cargo van 
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And the kids love the cargo van.
They were, like, playing with 

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the lights. 
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moving all the stuff from 
vehicle to vehicle. 

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But at least the kids like the 
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of a highway. 
My God, I. 

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My God. 
There are so many pieces of this

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whole thing that I don't under. 
Like if it was me in that 

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situation, Oh my God I would be 
losing it. 

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I would be telling all of these 
people you've lost your minds. 

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This is clearly what needs to be
done and we're not doing this 

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any longer. 
OK, their solution for the first

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hour ish of this situation while
the car is smoking and won't 

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start is to go get oil and 
radiator fluid, OK? 

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Because if we just miraculously 
put these fluids in that the car

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needs, the car that's not 
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Yep, we're good. 
And it's just going to start 

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back up and we're going to be 
fine. 

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Right, right. 
Wasted time and effort. 

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You wasted that much time. 
So then we're going to call the 

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tow truck. 
OK. 

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Excuse me. 
No, now we have to wait two more

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hours for the tow truck to come.
And then we have to still get 

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the rental and we have to still 
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Like, what are you doing? 
I could not believe the attempts

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that they made to try, like they
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this vehicle. 
I I I don't understand. 

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It did feel like and maybe it 
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of gave Logan some moments to 
talk about it And and I oh gosh,

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this is going to be gendered and
this you're going to hate me 

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because I'm a man, but it's 
like, you know, a bunch of women

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and children with vehicles on 
the side of the road and I'm 

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going to only put myself at 
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women in capabilities myself. 
So I don't know what I would do 

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either. 
I mean, I certainly wouldn't go 

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get fluids and try to solve the 
problem myself. 

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I would have jumped right to we 
need to get someone else to deal

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with this, correct? 
And that's what I think you're. 

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That's what I'm saying. 
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saying. 
I'm not expecting them to know 

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what to do. 
I think it's completely fine 

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that they don't. 
I just, you know, yeah, I don't 

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know, there, there was some 
wasted effort there, I feel 

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like. 
And if I was in three big ass 

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vehicles on the side of the road
with, OK, so if it's sixteen 

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people -3 adults, 13 children, I
would not have all of our 

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vehicle. 
Or if you're going to try that, 

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cool the other two cars. 
We're going into town. 

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We're going to sit in a 
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Keep us updated and we'll come 
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Like what? 
Just none of it made any sense 

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to me. 
They're all just there on the 

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side of the road, camera crew 
and all, and I'm like, you guys 

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are fucking insane. 
Like this is nuts. 

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So. 
It's one thing if you're sitting

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in like traffic at construction 
and you can't move or whatever, 

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but like they're just on the 
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The other people could go 
somewhere. 

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It's not a big deal. 
No, there's a level of safety to

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it as well. 
Like it's dark, it's night, 

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you're on the side of a freeway.
Like what are we doing? 

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I just none of it made any sense
to me. 

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I think this is the first in a 
long line of Browns driving and 

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Browns not driving while they 
should be driving and Browns 

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with cars. 
There's a lot of Browns with 

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cars and driving, right? 
We know they can't afford 

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flights places. 
There's a lot of kids. 

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They're just going to Wyoming 
from northern Utah. 

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It's not that far of a drive. 
And then cut to 9:00 AM the next

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morning. 
Yeah, when Kody's getting up and

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he's going to the repair shop 
and he's trying to assess the. 

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Riding a motorcycle Yes to the. 
Auto shop, Yes, he sure did. 

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He thought he was pretty fucking
cool. 

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I was like, did we see him on a 
motorcycle season 1? 

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Because there was a moment where
we see him photographed on a 

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motorcycle, like looking around,
but I don't remember seeing him 

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on a motorcycle. 
Point. 

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Maybe we didn't. 
So it was interesting that, like

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I just say interesting. 
I just think this is the first 

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time we actually see him on a 
bike. 

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But he's totally wearing. 
But he always wears like khakis 

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and a dress shirt. 
He's like going to work, but 

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instead he's going to stop at 
the auto shop. 

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OK, well, fine, that happens. 
But he's on this motorcycle and 

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it's like, why aren't you in 
your little sports car that you 

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can't take any of your children 
anywhere in, you know what I 

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mean? 
Like I don't whatever he's got 

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to put on the show for the 
cameras. 

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That's what he's here for. 
He's. 

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Just doing a bang up job, you 
know, as usual. 

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And do you know what it will 
cost to fix the suburban 

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darling? 
Do you know the exact number? 

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5100 and change. 
I don't know the exact number. 

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You're. 
Killing me. 

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I wrote down 5K but I knew it 
was 5100. 

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I just don't. 
I wrote down 5200 but because 

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they referenced the specific 
number so many times I crossed 

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it out and wrote 5164 dollars. 
Oh my God. 

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Because it was said at least 
three times. 

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Like, OK, wow, down to the 
dollar. 

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And of course, you know, Kody. 
Oh, well. 

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Well, we'll have to see if this 
is even worth it. 

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I don't know if even putting 
that in the vehicle, we'll have 

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to see if we can pull something 
out of something else with the 

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family. 
So he's just giving us logical 

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what you do when you get an 
estimate for a car, you got to 

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figure out what you can do with.
It riding that fancy motorcycle 

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that serves big purpose for your
family, right? 

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That motorcycle is really, 
really a priority. 

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I'm sure. 
Yeah, actually could probably 

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get 5 grand for it. 
Right, right. 

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Maybe more. 
Instead of taking the vehicle 

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where he can fit 1.5 other 
people with him, he took his 

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solo ride motorcycle as the 
father of however many children 

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like insane insane. 
Do you think the motorcycle was 

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part of sealing the deal with 
Robin? 

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Sealing the deal? 
What do you mean? 

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I don't know, like, like I'm 
really going to impress her. 

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So let me get this, get the 
motorcycle. 

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You know, don't you think he 
showed up in Saint George on the

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fucking motorcycle? 
At one point, yeah, he, like, 

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wrote it all the way down there.
She's like my man. 

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Yeah. 
And it's kind of like ice 

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blocking, you know, like she 
might get a little tingle down 

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South. 
Ding Ding, Ding. 

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Like that was great. 
And like you said, oh Kody, 

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she's oh Kody. 
She was upon that motorcycle, my

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little stallion. 
Yeah. 

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And this is where I was like, 
Robin is a moron. 

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Robin is an idiot. 
Yes, because Kody calls 

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Christine to let her know what's
going on with the vehicle, which

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has been towed the hour back 
home and is at the auto shop. 

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And he's calling Christine to 
let her know it's going to be 

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$5164 to solve the broken motor 
and whatever else. 

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And she's telling Robin and 
Robin's like, is this just just 

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happens? 
A car just goes bad? 

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Like, Oh my. 
God, the motor just died. 

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What happened? 
She's really needing more 

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information. 
Right. 

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And Christine's like I don't 
have any more details for you. 

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Like actually she goes, I don't 
want all the details. 

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Yes. 
It's like you're fucking 

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kidding, right? 
It doesn't matter what happens. 

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This is where we are. 
Robin with her remote auto 

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diagnosis, like what are you 
talking about? 

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Like what is she going to 
contribute to any conversation? 

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And also, if Christine did have 
the actual technical words used,

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do you think that Robin would 
understand any of them? 

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Even if I'd only seen this 
episode, I would constantly say 

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no because her talking is like, 
I don't necessarily talk pretty 

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all the time, but she oh God, 
this episode it's C Seinfeld and

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delivered it for me. 
She's an idiot. 

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Like while she's talking, it's 
just like you're watching. 

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Like I was going to say 
something terrible like a 

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homeschooled 11 year old, but 
maybe that's not terrible. 

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That's what she sounds like, a 
homeschooled 11 year old. 

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I agree 150% and also I this is 
what I think is interesting 

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watching like her interviews 
today. 

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OK. 
And compared to then really the 

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only difference is that we give 
her credit because of maturity, 

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because of her age. 
She still talks very slow about 

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things. 
She talks very simply about 

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things. 
There is not much that has like 

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broad concept behind it. 
It's often just words, and I 

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don't think she's learned a lot 
in the past couple decades, you 

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know what I mean? 
Like I just don't think she has 

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so. 
And maybe what she has learned 

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in the last 15 years is reading 
comments online and seeing how 

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everyone talks about her being 
sobbing. 

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So there's a change in that down
the road. 

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There's kind of a immediate 
change where all of a sudden 

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she's not crying about 
everything anymore and then 

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speak the slow affect, it's like
people, it's like she realized 

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how dumb she sounded on TV and 
so she was like, I'm going to 

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just slow it down. 
She. 

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Probably got a life coach. 
Well, a life coach. 

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Not a life coach, but a PR 
person. 

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APR person I don't know. 
PR person. 

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I also think it could be the gas
leak in her home because that's 

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that's my theory is that there 
is a gas leak at her home. 

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I think that would add up. 
Yeah, that tracks, yeah. 

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Then the family outside of 
Janelle, Kody, and Hunter who 

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stayed back because Hunter had a
football game or football 

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practice. 
Excuse me, the whole family is 

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still driving along the next 
morning because they only got an

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hour into their however many 
hour trek. 

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And they stop at Red Canyon to 
take pictures. 

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And it's cute because Meri makes
it sound like this is what they 

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do. 
They stop at this place and they

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take photos. 
She didn't explicitly say that, 

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but that's the gist. 
And she's saying this to Robin 

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in the car. 
They pull over and Robin kind of

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seems like is there a problem or
whatever, and she's like, this 

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is where we do, we stop and we 
take photos here. 

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That's what we do. 
We're going to have one of our 

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big, big, big moments of the 
show right now as far as making 

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fun of someone, which is what's 
really important, Robin tells 

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the kids while they're all lined
up in front of the view. 

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Not before they're taking a 
photo. 

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They're getting ready to take a 
photo. 

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They're all looking at the view 
and she's like everyone make AY 

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for Wyoming and the kids all 
make wise with their hands like 

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they're doing YMCA and Meri's 
like Wyoming is spelled with AW 

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and it's like oh this is the 
woman that tells the kids to 

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make AY for Wyoming. 
Like this is the first episode 

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where it is clear as fucking day
that Robin is a moron. 

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I'm not even sure it registered 
to Robin after Meri said that. 

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Yeah. 
What she fucking meant. 

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Yeah. 
Like Robin just kind of like, ha

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ha. 
And it was like, no, you idiot, 

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like, what are you doing? 
Yeah, I. 

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Mean it just. 
It really was. 

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It was bad. 
It was bad. 

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We all make mistakes where we 
say things sometimes where it's 

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like when you look back on it, 
you're like, oh, that was which 

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we've never done on this 
podcast, of course. 

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But you know, sometimes you do 
screw up and you say a sentence 

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wrong. 
You use a letter, whatever. 

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Suggest drugging something. 
Nothing. 

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Allegedly. 
Allegedly. 

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Allegedly, Allegedly Allegedly, 
you may have suggested someone 

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drug someone, allegedly. 
Allegedly. 

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But you wouldn't say Wyoming 
starts with AY. 

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That's just wrong. 
Or if I did, I would be like, 

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come on, you guys know you can't
expect any better than this. 

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I would at least give them shit 
back. 

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I wouldn't just be like, oh, 
what? 

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Huh. 
Yeah. 

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You mean what? 
I'm just going to play it off 

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like I didn't even know anything
or. 

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Whatever. 
No, actually it does. 

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It does start. 
Wyoming. 

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What an idiot. 
Yeah, I'm just so happy. 

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I shouldn't say I'm so happy. 
This is how sad my life is. 

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I'm just so happy that we've we 
got one of these first moments 

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of like lower in the community 
of like Robin's idiocy, like why

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for Wyoming, it's a beautiful 
moment. 

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There was actually a couple of 
moments, that one obviously is 

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the first, but then towards the 
end and we'll get there. 

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But like of the other wives, 
absolutely not hesitating to 

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call Robin out on either stupid 
shit like that or like chill the

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fuck out shit or whatever. 
Like they're starting just be 

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like, OK, Robin, you know, like 
you can tell that those. 

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Pipes are there, yeah. 
And I love it. 

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Yes, they cut back to the 
compound in Lehigh and Kody, 

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Janelle and Hunter are getting 
ready to leave the next morning 

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and Kody admits that it is his 
fault, usually, that they are 

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late. 
And that was a fun moment 

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because I bet it's true in more 
than one way. 

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Not only in the like I'm a man 
and I'm late and I'm an idiot 

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and I'm late, but that he serves
as a chaos agent in his own 

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family. 
Like he doesn't make anything 

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better for anybody 97% of the 
time I'm guessing. 

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Yep, Yep, fully agree with that,
but also still just think that 

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these three are on the like we 
won the fucking lottery train. 

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You know what I mean? 
Like we have not had to deal 

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with any of that shit that they 
did the last two days and la, 

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la, la, la, la, look at us go 
we're on a road trip. 

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Like they're just chilling, 
Janelle tells Kody he did you 

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bring your boots? 
You look sexy on a horse or some

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shit like that. 
Like they're just having a grand

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old time in that car on the way 
up. 

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Well, and even packing the car 
there was like a lightness It 

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definitely, yeah. 
I can't imagine spending so much

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time with so many people, like 
at home because it's one thing 

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to go to work and it's one thing
to go to in public, but to come 

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home to so many people all the 
time and have everything you do 

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have to involve so many other 
people. 

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Like to be like, oh, at least 
only one of my wives and my one 

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child with her is going with me.
Like I bet that was literally 

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like they were all like, I bet 
they were really happy about 

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that. 
That's why we've chosen the 

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lifestyles we have, Chris. 
It's because we could never 

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tolerate that. 
I can't even stand one person. 

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I was going to. 
Say I don't even date because 

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I'm like no. 
Watching you balance for 

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different relationships of that 
matter. 

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No, I don't matter manner. 
No. 

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Four different relationships of 
that manner. 

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Okay, I cannot be Robin. 
Well, I mean, I could marry the 

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male version of Meri and 
Janelle, but Christine, Oh my 

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gosh, kill me, kill me. 
I couldn't do it. 

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You think you? 
I'm I'm. 

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That's true. 
But I'll just wait to see you 

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date someone, OK? 
Like I'll just wait to see you 

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actually like you get to date 
number. 4 Because that's never 

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gonna happen. 
Yeah. 

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00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,000
Now, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I can't wait to meet the magical
human that you get to spend the 

440
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rest of your life with, you 
know? 

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It'll probably be 3 days before 
I die. 

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It'll be one of those things 
where it's like, oh, he finally 

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found the one. 
And then the next day I'll get 

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hit by a bus and everyone will 
be like, well that was that was 

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Chris. 
That was Chris at. 

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Least he had a few good days. 
At least he had. 

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Hopefully he got a couple 
orgasms out of it. 

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Like at least well. 
That turned fast, all right. 

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And then they take a break for 
Kody to talk about how his 

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parents were Mormons, he grew up
as Mormon, and that there is a 

451
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,000
difference between the AUB or 
fundamentalist Mormons that have

452
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,760
adopted polygamy versus the 
organized church that people 

453
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,320
generally know that's the Mormon
church and how he went on his 

454
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,920
mission that they do when 
they're young adults. 

455
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:15,960
And while he was gone, his 
parents adopted polygamy as a 

456
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,880
lifestyle. 
And he talks about how his mom 

457
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,920
pushed for polygamy while he was
gone and that they added to 

458
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,680
their family while he was on his
mission. 

459
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,960
And I don't know about the mom 
pushing. 

460
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,080
I mean, like, I guess I, I find 
it interesting that someone 

461
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,240
would be like, I had a vision or
God talk to me once again, 

462
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,360
hearing the voices telling them 
to have other wives in their 

463
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,800
marriage, etcetera. 
What did you have to? 

464
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,920
What did you think about the 
whole thing? 

465
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,440
Well, I thought it was fucking 
weird. 

466
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,320
So here's my thing, right? 
So when they go on these Mormon 

467
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,000
missions, and now I will tell 
you that the extent of my 

468
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,240
knowledge on this comes from The
Real Housewives of Salt Lake 

469
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,800
City. 
Yeah. 

470
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,160
OK, Yeah. 
So. 

471
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,200
Lisa. 
Yes, Lisa's son. 

472
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:11,520
Yes, yeah, But she has a teenage
son that goes on a mission. 

473
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,640
Yeah, right. 
And so leading up to this 

474
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,240
mission, they're talking about 
kind of how all of that works 

475
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,880
and it's entails them being gone
for a fairly long extended 

476
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,720
period of time. 
Is it a year or? 

477
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,240
Maybe I I think it's two years, 
but I don't. 

478
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,640
Know, but like that they can't 
even like communicate back home 

479
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,200
during that time. 
They don't visit. 

480
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,840
They don't like they basically 
just disappear and are on their 

481
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,560
Mormon mission to convert others
in the communities, I think. 

482
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,800
Right. 
Like, I think basically they're 

483
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,680
hitting the pavement with Flyers
on their missions. 

484
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,880
It's my yeah, I'm sure there's 
different versions for sure, but

485
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,680
so you're a teenager and you 
were gone wherever like her son 

486
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,320
was supposed to go to I I'm 
going to say like Nicaragua or 

487
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,520
something, something like that. 
South America. 

488
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,680
So you're gone and you're away 
and your parents are like, hey, 

489
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,360
you know what we should do? 
Let's try this. 

490
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,160
What do you think? 
Would that be fun? 

491
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:24,960
And then you return home to them
having another wife or at least 

492
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,440
entertaining the lifestyle 
dating. 

493
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Having another wife? 
In Kody's case, yes. 

494
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,400
Yeah, clearly it had its effect 
on Kody in some manner, like 

495
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,840
maybe in one of the more 
positive ways that it could or 

496
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,760
something. 
I don't know. 

497
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,600
This is all very strange. 
It's very strange to me that 

498
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,560
their child would be gotten. 
Does he have siblings? 

499
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,760
Yes, he has multiple brothers. 
Like before. 

500
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,600
Sister, I don't, I don't know, 
but yes. 

501
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,600
Before polygamy. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

502
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,200
So there's multiple children, 
some potentially still living at

503
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,680
home during this time, but 
they're not like, I just can't 

504
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,760
quite imagine that change. 
But then I guess maybe you start

505
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,240
to think about it as maybe you 
have a parent that you know was 

506
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,800
straight the whole time you were
growing up and now they're gay 

507
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,880
and whatever, right? 
Like they come out at some point

508
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,520
in time or, you know, say that 
they're bisexual and that could 

509
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,840
be something very different. 
I mean, sexuality versus what 

510
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,040
they're doing definitely 
different. 

511
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,960
But like cult behavior? 
Yes, but like big lifestyle 

512
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,400
changes of sorts and like, I 
don't know, I can't wrap my 

513
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,600
brain around it. 
I thought it was very strange 

514
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,960
and I kind of wish they had gone
into more detail about what that

515
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,520
looked like. 
And maybe they did, but they 

516
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,240
just didn't show it because it 
wasn't that interesting. 

517
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,120
I bizarre, bizarre. 
Kody's bio mom her her name is 

518
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,600
Janelle. 
I'm going to say you did that 

519
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,440
right. 
We're going to say we're going 

520
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,360
to try to say Janelle because 
sometimes it sounds like that 

521
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,360
when they're saying it on the 
show. 

522
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,480
Other times to me, it sounds 
like Janelle with a little twang

523
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,560
like Janelle. 
But I think if we say Janelle 

524
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,440
and we make the heel like 
Janelle, that would be good. 

525
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,680
We'll try to do that, ladies and
gentlemen, but I think you know,

526
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,000
when you when you're talking 
about the choices and I think 

527
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,800
about the cultness and the 
whatever I my first thought is 

528
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:24,520
what is going on between when 
Kody's dad, Wynn when and 

529
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,440
Janelle in their relationship 
for her to say, I think we 

530
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,600
should have another wife in this
situation. 

531
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Now, maybe she had a religious 
experience. 

532
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,000
Maybe God talked to her in the 
sense of when you hear voices. 

533
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,320
But that's what I wonder is like
what was going on with them? 

534
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,080
Like is he unsatisfied? 
Is she wanting someone else 

535
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,560
around? 
But not sure what that means. 

536
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,840
Like how what is the motivation 
for even wanting to do this? 

537
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,560
Because is it really a booming 
voice from this guy? 

538
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,280
Like what? 
Right. 

539
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,280
And like also I was, I was 
thinking, could it potentially 

540
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,600
be that through their church, 
they maybe knew somebody that 

541
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,120
had, you know, started the other
lifestyle? 

542
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:13,960
But then I'm kind of like, that 
seems a little unlikely because 

543
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,480
they weren't telling people 
that, that that's how they live 

544
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,640
their lives. 
So I, I, I That doesn't 

545
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,680
necessarily add up either. 
I am curious about that, about 

546
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,520
the rural communities, Wyoming, 
Utah, that area where you are 

547
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,160
Mormon and you meet people. 
Because I think that's what 

548
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,880
Janelle talks about is that she 
met Mormon people or excuse me, 

549
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,200
she met polygamous. 
And we're like, these are my 

550
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,280
polygamous friends. 
And like now all of a sudden 

551
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,960
turned on to this. 
And what does this mean? 

552
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,320
So she can't be the only one. 
But yeah, I don't they don't go 

553
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,880
into enough detail about that. 
But I'm curious about what it 

554
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,640
means to be in a monogamous 
relationship. 

555
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,720
Supposedly your husband owns a 
ranch. 

556
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,400
She's a ranch. 
And he's busy all, all day, 

557
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,280
every day. 
And you're like, I should really

558
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,280
have another wife in this 
situation. 

559
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,760
I'm just wondering what would 
trigger that? 

560
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,560
What would start that? 
More workers for the ranch. 

561
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,160
More teats for the calves. 
Wow. 

562
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,520
Oh, that was a terrible visual. 
In Wyoming. 

563
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:19,040
Wyoming is a place to be. 
They got plenty of teats for the

564
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,320
suckling in Wyoming. 
OK. 

565
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800
So we don't know a lot about 
that and we are but. 

566
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,320
We did talk about it for 5 
minutes. 

567
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,480
Still lots of questions, if you 
guys have the answers feel free 

568
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,760
we will take them. 
Absolutely. 

569
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,360
Leave us a comment on Spotify if
you're listening on Spotify. 

570
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Leave us a comment on YouTube if
you're listening on YouTube, 

571
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,640
wherever you're listening. 
If you know how it is that 

572
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,640
someone decides that they should
bring another wife into the 

573
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,640
family, let us know. 
Just let us know. 

574
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,800
Please. 
Thank you. 

575
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,840
So then we basically cut to the 
family that left the first day. 

576
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,680
The first people that left the 
compound didn't get to Wyoming 

577
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,720
until two days later. 
I feel like they make it kind of

578
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,920
sound like since they left at 
six, they arrived the morning of

579
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,560
the following following day. 
Like it was like you said, 48 

580
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,440
hours, Like it was probably a 
solid 2 days. 

581
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,600
They say we've been driving for 
three days. 

582
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,880
It was probably 2 days of 
travel. 

583
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,000
I'm wondering what they did that
whole second day because they 

584
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600
they don't point out any 
activities other than stopping 

585
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,680
at a place to take photos. 
And they kind of just say like, 

586
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,160
oh, you know, we had to do what 
we had to do when this is how it

587
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,400
goes. 
And then, well, somebody came 

588
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,800
the next day and I'm like, what 
happened to a whole day? 

589
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,080
I, you know what I think maybe 
Christine mentioned like the 

590
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,840
kids were really tired or 
something. 

591
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Like maybe they did get a good 
chunk of the day done that 

592
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,800
second day, but everybody was 
losing their minds and they're 

593
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,240
like, all right, we're stopping.
Like kids probably swam in the 

594
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,720
hotel, did all the stuff right. 
And then they stayed. 

595
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,440
There was a moment where I 
thought they had potentially 

596
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,440
driven all night, like when it 
said the 9:00 AM stop at the 

597
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,040
rest stop the next morning. 
I was like, oh, did they just 

598
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,240
power through and drive all 
night and they're almost there? 

599
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,480
No, no, no. 24 more hours at 
least. 

600
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Yes, until they arrive, yes. 
I remember that too. 

601
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,520
At the 9:00 AM, I'm like, oh, 
good for them. 

602
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,200
It's like, no, no, they're a day
behind. 

603
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Like all of a sudden it was 
like, Nope, they are not even 

604
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,600
close. 
But they were in the state of 

605
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Wyoming. 
How fucking big is Wyoming? 

606
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,280
I mean, Wyoming is big enough, 
but I'm gonna I'm gonna think 

607
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,040
back to when we started this 
episode and you referenced 8 

608
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,960
hours. 
I think 8 hours was the trip. 

609
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,480
Now that we're talking about 
this, because that could be done

610
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,600
in an evening slash into the 
next day, Particularly because 

611
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,520
as we talked about later, some 
of them have to get hotel rooms.

612
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,760
They can't all stay at the 
ranch. 

613
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,120
So getting there the first night
probably is de prioritized 

614
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,880
because it's like, well, not 
everyone's going to stay there 

615
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,080
anyway. 
We're going to have to stop 

616
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,360
somewhere. 
People are going to have to get 

617
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,160
rooms. 
I I'm not. 

618
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,600
I'm pretty good with geography, 
but getting from Lehigh to 

619
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,600
somewhere in Wyoming for an 
ordinary family is a one day 

620
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,840
drive. 
For sure. 

621
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:09,200
So for them to take two full 
days spread out over three makes

622
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,080
sense for the Browns, I guess. 
Hey, we once did a 13 hour drive

623
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,480
in 72 hours, just you and me. 
What was that drive? 

624
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Driving home? 
Yeah, driving home, yes, But we 

625
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,080
mean we went a different way. 
He stayed in Duluth and he 

626
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760
stopped by the. 
We got drunk at bars and. 

627
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,000
Stayed in hotel yeah Oh 
beautiful. 

628
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Upper Michigan. 
Shout out to Upper Michigan. 

629
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480
What a delight. 
Yeah, beautiful. 

630
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,760
So yes, we can't judge them 
actually. 

631
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,920
OK, little personal tangent we 
got. 

632
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,440
We stopped over at this place 
because there's all these trees 

633
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,720
and I think one of us probably 
had to pee, if not both of us. 

634
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,600
Let's say we're on the side of a
highway and there's this forest 

635
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,880
and it's beautiful and there's 
river and waterfalls and these 

636
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,320
paths. 
And we were looking around just 

637
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,200
kind of exploring on the side of
the well off to the off to the 

638
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,480
side of the road, but having a 
genuine moment of just pulling 

639
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,120
over on a car trip and looking 
around. 

640
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400
And we get back in the car. 
We pull off and as they're 

641
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,520
getting pulled over by a police 
officer a little while later, I 

642
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,880
think I said to you, our story 
is that we just pulled over and 

643
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,679
we're looking around at the 
trees and at the waterfall. 

644
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,280
And you were like, but that's, 
that's what we did. 

645
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,880
And I'm like, I know, let's just
get our story straight. 

646
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,920
Like what do we have to lie 
about? 

647
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,560
Literally, we did nothing wrong.
We did nothing wrong. 

648
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,400
No, you know what it was? 
We saw a river on the map 

649
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,280
because we kind of wanted to get
off paths and explore a little 

650
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,360
bit. 
We're like, yeah, let's check it

651
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,440
out. 
We saw this river, so we're 

652
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,440
like, all right, let's see. 
Completely innocent, did 

653
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,560
absolutely nothing wrong, unless
you would call it indecent 

654
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,440
exposure to pee on the side of a
gravel Rd. in the middle of 

655
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,600
nowhere. 
He didn't even catch us doing 

656
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,719
that. 
No, no. 

657
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,159
But yes, get our story straight.
Get our story straight. 

658
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,160
We stopped to look at the nature
like, well, that is your story. 

659
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,720
Good news only got a warning 
only. 

660
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,920
Got a warning? 
Only a warning. 

661
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,240
We weren't even removed from the
vehicle and searched. 

662
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:08,640
I mean it worked out perfectly. 
We both flashed our knockers and

663
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,080
the officer was like whoo got to
let him go. 

664
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,800
Was he cute? 
I don't think so. 

665
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,360
I don't think so. 
I would remember if he was cute 

666
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,960
because that would be part of 
the story and like he was cute. 

667
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,480
Turns out no, he no, no, 
definitely not cute. 

668
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,960
We were too scared of the crime 
that we hadn't committed other 

669
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,280
than speeding. 
We're innocent, officer, and 

670
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,440
he's like of what? 
He's like, well, I pulled you 

671
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,240
over for speeding. 
No, we're innocent of that. 

672
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:38,680
Oh my. 
God, what a road trip that was. 

673
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Amen. 
OK, so they have their 48 hour 

674
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,200
road trip to get to the place or
whatever, Maybe 30. 30 road trip

675
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,200
in two days that should have 
taken less than one day. 

676
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,200
Maybe 36 if we're being 
generous. 

677
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,800
But they reference a point when 
it was maybe Meri, I can't 

678
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:04,200
remember Meri that said, well, 
you know, we finally arrived. 

679
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,880
And then Kody, Janelle and 
Hunter got here about one hour 

680
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,920
later. 
They had left the entire next. 

681
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Day. 24 hours later and they got
there one hour after the rest of

682
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,920
them did. 
So they must have stopped and 

683
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,840
slept too for a little bit. 
You know, like they had to have.

684
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,520
But I thought that was just 
really great timing. 

685
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,960
Yes, very funny. 
And then we have an arrival at 

686
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Kody's parents ranch and they 
kind of do an overview of who 

687
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,400
they are kind of. 
And so we'll start with what 

688
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,160
they kind of told us, which is 
that Kody's dad, his name is 

689
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,200
Wynne and his bio mom, her name 
is Janelle. 

690
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,400
And as we talked about before, 
Wynn and Janelle have been 

691
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,760
married or how I don't know how 
long they've been married, but 

692
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,400
Kody's parents who were together
married Mormon. 

693
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,280
He leaves for Mission, comes 
back and there's another wife, 

694
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,400
which her name is Cheryl. 
Now, they don't point this out 

695
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,040
yet to begin, but Cheryl is 
Janelle's mother, which is very 

696
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,920
interesting that they don't say 
that right away. 

697
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,800
But I was like, okay, so they're
just gonna talk about how 

698
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Chery's around, but not really 
address any of that. 

699
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,520
What did you think about talking
about the parents? 

700
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,760
Did anything stand out to you 
right away? 

701
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,920
I think the first thing that 
stood out to me first, it was 

702
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,040
just like a big cute welcome. 
Like everybody was there's hugs 

703
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640
and joking and laughing and 
everybody was just super excited

704
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,480
to be there. 
So it was kind of like a, a warm

705
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,840
family welcome, right? 
Like I thought, I thought that 

706
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,160
was adorable. 
They talked a bit about Kody's 

707
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,280
dad to start off with. 
First of all, you know, for an 

708
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,000
elderly man, Kody's father, you 
know he's kind of one of those 

709
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,680
handsome old guys, right? 
A. 

710
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,880
Little John Wayne thing going. 
Yeah, I just, I was like, OK, 

711
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,760
yeah, you're, you're an old 
rancher. 

712
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Like it was not, not bad, not a 
bad look anyway. 

713
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,240
But yeah, just that he's getting
older and things like that, that

714
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,320
he, you know, used to be so out 
and about and doing things and 

715
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,400
then he's just barely leaves the
house now. 

716
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,080
So they kind of talked a lot 
about him in the beginning and 

717
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,200
really did just kind of brush 
through the wives and not get a 

718
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,800
give a lot of explanation. 
Yeah. 

719
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,680
So it was interesting, Yeah. 
How the? 

720
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Ranch life has kind of taken a 
toll on him to an extent, which 

721
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:32,360
is interesting that they point 
out because he win is not with 

722
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,160
us for a very long time in this 
show. 

723
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
So it's interesting that they 
point that out that they're 

724
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,960
like, it seems like, you know, 
well, the wives are definitely 

725
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,520
going to outlive him. 
And it's like, yeah, that is 

726
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,880
true. 
Interesting. 

727
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,480
But I was confused about the 
wives. 

728
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:58,480
I I didn't quite understand. 
And was it Maddie who said, and 

729
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:04,000
this is Cheryl, this is my mom, 
Janelle's mom? 

730
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,640
Yes. 
Yeah, and and that was like the 

731
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,640
only did bid on it for like a 
hot 2nd. 

732
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,720
For a hot 2nd. 
So. 

733
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,440
And Cheryl, we met last episode 
when they went to New York. 

734
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,160
She was the only grandma that 
they spoke to on camera or that 

735
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,680
made it to edit. 
And so it was almost like a 

736
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,680
yeah, this is Grandma Cheryl. 
Like, well, yeah, we already met

737
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920
her. 
But once again, no tie in to how

738
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,280
they're actually intertwined or 
well, how they're intertwined 

739
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,480
through Janelle, etcetera. 
We'll get, we'll get to that. 

740
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,440
In a spotlight moment, an 
interview moment, Kody talks 

741
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,760
about how he didn't want to 
bring up the investigation to 

742
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,280
his parents. 
He didn't want to bring it up 

743
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,800
around them because of phone 
calls they'd already had where 

744
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,760
they were concerned, obviously, 
and their whole reason for 

745
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560
going. 
And part of the reason is we 

746
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,920
want to get away from this. 
And so he said he wasn't going 

747
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,440
to bring it up. 
I don't know. 

748
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,600
Did that spark anything in you? 
No, I guess I kind of like that 

749
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,000
they thought about that in 
advance and made it an 

750
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,120
intentional thing because I kind
of imagined they had to have 

751
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,080
conversations with the parents 
about that prior to being there.

752
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,840
Because otherwise you would 
assume we would catch some 

753
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,320
questions being asked here and 
there or something, or at least 

754
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,040
some conversations being had 
about it. 

755
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,120
And that definitely didn't 
happen. 

756
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,920
But good for them I guess, you 
know? 

757
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,400
Like, if you don't want the 
weight of all of that to ruin 

758
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,560
this weekend and you really want
your intention with your kids 

759
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,440
when you guys are out in nature 
on a ranch and doing all like, I

760
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,520
kind of totally understand the 
separating it from everything 

761
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,400
else. 
And we are in our own little 

762
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,960
haven and we are going to stay 
here and pretend that the rest 

763
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,640
of the world doesn't exist, You 
know? 

764
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,120
So like, good for them that they
intentionally did that so that 

765
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,520
they could not focus on things 
that they're not going to change

766
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,720
that moment, right? 
Yeah, I was kind of sparked by 

767
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:07,520
Kody talking about it, wondering
about how people, which I do is 

768
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,440
kind of be like, we're not going
to deal with that right now and 

769
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,680
just kind of whatever. 
And I was like wondering if 

770
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,800
there was some tie into some 
sort of denials of things. 

771
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,720
But then I don't feel like I 
ever circled back to that in the

772
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:20,360
episode. 
I don't think anything else came

773
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,920
out where it was like Kody was 
doing something. 

774
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,120
And I want to say deceptive, but
avoiding to a point of 

775
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,920
unhealthiness. 
It just seemed like a healthy 

776
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200
avoidance, let's say that. 
Yeah, I I would agree. 

777
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,440
I think it, I think it was 
healthy and fine and acceptable 

778
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,720
that they did that. 
I didn't see anything like 

779
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,720
strategic or manipulative with 
it. 

780
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,720
I do think it'll be interesting 
because I can't recall how much 

781
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:45,760
information we get about this 
investigation. 

782
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,480
And I'm sure that to an extent, 
while they may tape some things 

783
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,480
about it, there might have to be
things that like depending on 

784
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,440
how long the editing process the
case lasts that this and that 

785
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,960
that there, there might have to 
be things they're very careful 

786
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,720
about saying on camera, right? 
Like, I, I mean, to what extent 

787
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,520
though really, I guess I don't 
know. 

788
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,880
So I, I can't remember how much 
we learn about what comes from 

789
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,480
this. 
If it's just a nothing burger. 

790
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,880
If it turns into a big deal. 
It it does circle back, but 

791
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,080
there is a lack of detail and I 
think it's kind of because it's 

792
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,840
ATV show and it's and it's to a 
certain extent like they don't 

793
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,240
go into a lot of detail. 
I don't recall. 

794
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,480
We'll see. 
Right, like like we're pinpoint,

795
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,000
you know, watching. 
We will watch this space so. 

796
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,600
Matter. 
We'll let you know. 

797
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,240
If you keep listening, we'll let
you know. 

798
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,920
Or hopefully, I mean we're 
actually not promising anything 

799
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,600
because we will not necessarily 
remember that we were wondering 

800
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,200
about this, but currently we are
wondering and hope that we'll 

801
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,720
let yes circle back we'd. 
Be on brand for us to be like, 

802
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:58,280
how about you guys let us know 
if this comes up again, you let 

803
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,560
us know. 
If we forget, yeah, you can tell

804
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,840
us that we forgot. 
And you were saying that we 

805
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,440
should have done better. 
And that is Amen and. 

806
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,840
We will accept the criticism, we
will deny it, and we'll move on.

807
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,920
No, we will accept it, but we 
will not commit to changing it 

808
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,960
and it will just be more of a 
thanks, love you. 

809
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,440
Yep, wink wink. 
See you next time, but don't 

810
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,520
expect better. 
Amen. 

811
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,960
They talk again about or I don't
remember if someone had a voice 

812
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,920
over or what the deal is, but 
that the two main points of 

813
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,560
what's going to happen in 
Wyoming, their two goals is to 

814
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,400
prime and paint Janelle's house.
So that's fun that they're going

815
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,360
to do this upkeep and when they 
show the initial show, it's seen

816
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,880
better days. 
It needed. 

817
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,200
It it needed it, it looked 
almost like when you see 

818
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,600
something photographed that a 
photographer has of like a 

819
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,840
country small little home up in 
the middle of nowhere. 

820
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,360
But it was where Kody's mom 
lives. 

821
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,720
She does make reference to, you 
know, Oh, well, you're ranchers 

822
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:06,880
and you're busy and, you know, 
we don't have time to paint. 

823
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,440
And I'm not quite sure what to 
say about that. 

824
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,440
I think I've seen plenty of 
ranches and farms where things 

825
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,560
are taken care of. 
But I should say things. 

826
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,360
It just was interesting. 
It looked like it got really far

827
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,480
as far as, I should say, 
disrepair, But I don't know. 

828
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,600
I've never lived in a home that 
looked like that from the 

829
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,960
outside. 
I don't know what that means. 

830
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Well, here is what I was going 
to say. 

831
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,800
One, did we ever see the inside 
of the house? 

832
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,280
I don't remember. 
So you know, when Janelle and 

833
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,800
Cheryl are cooking later? 
I don't remember what house 

834
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,040
they're. 
In I think they're in Cheryl's 

835
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,080
house, which is, by the way, a 
beautiful house on the ranch. 

836
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,360
So here's the second piece. 
So she referenced, yes, the wood

837
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,240
has never been painted. 
We never had time to paint. 

838
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,600
So I think it gives this 
appearance like it's this 

839
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:01,320
rundown, ruggedy old shack. 
Yeah, But I think it looks far 

840
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,960
older than it is. 
Yes. 

841
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,080
I think that the wood, because 
it was never treated or painted.

842
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,040
You know how if you leave a 
piece of wood out with nothing 

843
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,000
on it, it looks like shit very 
fast. 

844
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,280
Yeah. 
So it could be a newer home. 

845
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,520
That's really not a bad home, 
but it just looks like shit from

846
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,560
the outside. 
Yeah. 

847
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,840
So yeah, I needed a paint job, 
definitely did. 

848
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,720
And that was their one of their 
several projects for the 

849
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:29,520
weekend. 
Yes, one of two and the other 

850
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,680
one is working with Uncle Tim to
move cattle. 

851
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,680
So that's, I mean that's 
obviously a big part of ranch 

852
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,440
life and they do reference it. 
We'll talk about it a few more 

853
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,400
times in this episode. 
But the cattle and then painting

854
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Janelle's house, those are our 
two goals. 

855
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,800
We find out they're going to 
break it into 3 phases, priming,

856
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,160
painting and then doing the 
trim. 

857
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,600
So while they're priming, it's 
pretty cute because they show 

858
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,920
the kids doing some stuff and 
there's a cutaway to Isabel has 

859
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,360
some paint on her face. 
And I don't know if Christine's 

860
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,640
like, oh, and you're like what's
happening? 

861
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,840
Like what happened? 
And it was a little cute to see 

862
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,440
them doing their thing. 
They were kind of playing with 

863
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,960
each other with the brushes, 
chasing Robin, which I was like,

864
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,680
get her, you know, So that was 
fine. 

865
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,200
That was a cute little moment. 
Yeah, I thought it was great. 

866
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,640
There was a, I think a moment 
where the grandma said paint the

867
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,560
house, not each other. 
Yeah, you know, and it's like, 

868
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,920
yeah, Amen. 
But even that being said, at 

869
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,160
least at the beginning, I think 
towards the end when they were 

870
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,720
on more of the time crunch, it 
was a little more stressful and 

871
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,720
directed what people needed to 
do. 

872
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,640
But at this point they're being 
cute about it and certainly not 

873
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,880
caring if people are getting 
paint all over themselves and 

874
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,840
stuff like that. 
It's kind of nice when the like 

875
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,920
I I would freak out if my kid 
was covered in paint. 

876
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,360
I would be like, Oh my God, this
is so, you know, whatever. 

877
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,200
And they're not letting any of 
that bother them. 

878
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,320
And I think it's great because 
it just carefree for everybody. 

879
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,120
It felt very playful, which was 
great to see. 

880
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:59,760
They do a cutaway to Janelle and
Cheryl on the couch. 

881
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,520
I thought these were so 
interesting. 

882
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,440
I think I agree. 
I feel like it's probably our 

883
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,280
most interesting interview 
moments to date. 

884
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,320
And they're talking about 
shakeups with new wives joining 

885
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,640
a family and referencing and 
it's pretty universal in lines 

886
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,000
of work and different technology
tools and things. 

887
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,680
But spokes in a wheel, and I 
think it's Janelle or Cheryl. 

888
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,480
I know it's Janelle. 
They're both talking. 

889
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,880
It's hard for me to remember who
said what, but I think it was 

890
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,160
Janelle that talked about how 
spokes in a wheel, when you add 

891
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,680
another one, that all of the 
spokes need to change positions 

892
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,400
to spread out evenly. 
But when the exercise of doing 

893
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,200
that is done, there's more 
supports to support the wheel. 

894
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,440
The wheel is stronger. 
It's. 

895
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,680
Stronger. 
And I thought that was a good 

896
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000
metaphor. 
I mean, it wasn't hard for me to

897
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,680
understand. 
It might be hard for me to say 

898
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,240
right now, but it wasn't hard 
for me to get while watching and

899
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,440
I thought it made sense. 
Yeah, they talked about how 

900
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,280
there's always that shaking up, 
right? 

901
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,720
Like there's always that it's, 
it's not going to be perfect. 

902
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,600
And they certainly had moments 
like that, right? 

903
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,960
I do believe it was Janelle that
said it was hard for her. 

904
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:20,000
So it was her idea, though, 
supposedly, for them to enter 

905
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,480
this lifestyle. 
But she got very jealous. 

906
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,920
So it reminded me Meri Ish, but 
she got very jealous and it took

907
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:33,480
a lot of time to work that out. 
She also made the comment that 

908
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:39,800
she was the one taking care of 
the kids and Cheryl was taking 

909
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:45,200
care of Wynn, and boy did that 
seem like a distinguisher. 

910
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:52,880
And boy, does that kind of 
resonate with Kody Brown. 

911
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:59,480
She said something like Cheryl 
was good with business and then,

912
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,640
you know, Cheryl took care of 
Wynn. 

913
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,520
So there was a little bit of 
something where I feel like 

914
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,600
that's maybe that was the start 
of it, or maybe that's the first

915
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,840
thing she noticed is that that 
was their connection. 

916
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,240
And, you know, Janelle is like 
minded. 

917
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:18,000
She's, yeah, autonomous in her 
own way and whatever. 

918
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,520
And yeah, it was hard for me to 
read into what they were saying 

919
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,280
because. 
And part of the reason that I 

920
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,200
liked these moments with them is
that they are older women, women

921
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,360
of a certain age. 
They've been through life, so 

922
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,400
even when they're talking about 
their stuff, they seem 

923
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,120
relatively unreactionary. 
They don't seem like hurt or 

924
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,480
harbored by it like they're 
they've moved past it now. 

925
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,520
Listen, they made it through it.
They made it through it. 

926
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,120
And so them talking about it 
with this honesty that it was a 

927
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,080
bit disarming in a way. 
I don't, I don't even know what 

928
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,040
to say. 
Like, I, I loved hearing them, 

929
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,280
but there was something about 
that with Wynn versus the 

930
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,400
children. 
They didn't get into it too much

931
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,800
though, Like they didn't dive 
into that. 

932
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:03,520
I feel like I have a sneaking 
suspicion that if the Browns 

933
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,920
lived closer to this family that
the Brown family would still be 

934
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,000
together. 
Yeah, I think so too. 

935
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,160
I think they would be living at 
maybe it's not a ranch lifestyle

936
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:22,480
in Wyoming, but a similar, you 
know, like the setup that would 

937
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,200
actually work for their family. 
Be supported with those, you 

938
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,640
know, like minded type of family
members that have been through 

939
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,800
the ringer, that know exactly 
what you're going through that 

940
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,280
can say, listen, this is how we 
got through it or this is what 

941
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,840
we did and you fucking don't 
don't do this. 

942
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:45,120
We should have ABC, you know, so
interesting. 

943
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,480
That's a, that's maybe a big 
reach for just this one vacation

944
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,080
that we're seeing. 
But yeah, hearing their 

945
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,680
knowledge and the experiences 
that they've gone through and 

946
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,720
then watching exact same 
experiences play out in real 

947
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:04,720
time in theory, like, weird. 
Yes, they seemed very honest and

948
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:08,640
vulnerable, but not a lot of 
detail was given, so it's a 

949
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,360
little hard for me to track, but
it was great to see them 

950
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,400
together. 
I I leaned in and listening. 

951
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,120
I thought they were great. 
Absolutely. 

952
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,600
The show, a scene where they're 
outside, I'm not sure if this is

953
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,360
when they were priming. 
I, I didn't, I, I don't remember

954
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,840
that detail. 
But the adults, some of the 

955
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,880
adults are standing to each 
other with Kody and his mom 

956
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,400
Janelle in front of him. 
And she has a paper plate that 

957
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,560
she's holding that has a 
breakfast burrito on it. 

958
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,920
And Kody talks about how he just
his mom just loves him. 

959
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,120
She would take a bullet for him.
She'd take a knife for him. 

960
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,760
He she would do anything for 
him. 

961
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,800
And he like, reaches around her,
almost like from behind in this 

962
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,360
kind of familiar physicalness, 
like I'm your kid and I'm just 

963
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,440
reaching around mom and I'm 
going to take your burrito and 

964
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,760
I'm going to eat it right in 
front of you. 

965
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,400
He took at least a bite. 
I don't know, maybe it was too. 

966
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,960
I don't, I didn't pay that much 
attention. 

967
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:04,240
But he started eating her 
breakfast burrito and doing it 

968
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,920
as a signifier that like, oh 
look, my mom would do anything 

969
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,960
for me. 
My mom loves me. 

970
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,840
She's such a great mom. 
I think in his twisted sense, 

971
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,480
he's thinking that, oh, it's 
demonstrating that she would do 

972
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,720
anything for me and she's so 
great. 

973
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:19,280
What a great mom. 
It comes off as you're a selfish

974
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,120
asshole and you're eating your 
mom's fucking breakfast right in

975
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,760
front of she's literally holding
the plate outdoors, which to me 

976
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,200
makes it feel like everyone else
had their opportunity to eat 

977
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,000
breakfast. 
And she's probably just getting 

978
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,400
to her breakfast as a mom and 
he's taking it and eating it in 

979
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,160
front of her and being like, 
look, and she's not going to say

980
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,040
something that she's not going 
to be like, no, actually, you're

981
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,480
a bastard asshole of a son and 
you're eating my breakfast right

982
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,440
in front of me. 
She's just like standing there. 

983
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,880
And it made me cringe because it
felt very Kody to eat someone 

984
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,840
else's breakfast and to 
demonstrate that they're not 

985
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,680
going to do anything about it. 
And I felt bad for her because 

986
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,080
it's like, Oh my God, just let 
the woman eat her breakfast. 

987
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:05,720
Like what the fuck? 
I can say that my reaction to a 

988
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,560
similar situation could go one 
of two ways. 

989
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,520
If my child was being just 
fairly jokey and cute and 

990
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,160
whatever and took a bite of my 
burrito and I was in the right 

991
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,560
frame of mind, I might be like, 
get out of here dude, that is 

992
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,360
mine and it is not yours. 
Now there's an alternative mind 

993
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:31,880
frame that if I'm not in a good 
place, I could be brought to 

994
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,000
tears. 
OK, Like, absolutely not. 

995
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,160
You are not taking my burrito 
from me like tears. 

996
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:47,360
I think what bothered me the 
most about it, though, was that 

997
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,240
what you were saying kind of was
that. 

998
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:53,800
Yeah. 
My mom just loves me so much. 

999
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,440
The the, I don't remember if 
it's the exact words that he 

1000
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,400
said, but it's definitely the 
vibe that I was getting. 

1001
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,040
And it wasn't just that she 
loves me. 

1002
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,640
It was that. 
And because of that, I can do 

1003
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,280
whatever I want to do. 
Yeah. 

1004
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,280
And I can do whatever I want to 
do, including take her 

1005
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,400
breakfast. 
Like, that's kind of how he 

1006
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,520
started it off. 
And sure, he was being jokey, 

1007
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,000
and she certainly didn't seem to
mind that we could tell. 

1008
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,280
But like, I don't know, I it was
that it was that I can do 

1009
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,240
whatever I want. 
And I think Kody Brown was 

1010
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:32,160
raised to believe that he can do
whatever he wants. 

1011
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,960
That's probably part of the 
dynamic, yes, I think with his 

1012
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,200
mother. 
Correct. 

1013
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,800
I think there's probably a very 
different dynamic with his 

1014
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,080
father that we will get into. 
His whole male obsession, his 

1015
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,440
whole desperation for male 
approval that doesn't come from 

1016
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:52,600
his mom, his entitled asshole 
thing comes from his 

1017
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,080
relationship with his mom, 
perhaps apparently, allegedly, 

1018
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,240
apparently, allegedly just 
surmising from that scene 

1019
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,360
because it was one of those 
scenes where it's like, it's not

1020
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,400
about what it's about. 
It seemed like a little thing, 

1021
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,080
but really it's like, whoa, this
is such a signifier of so many 

1022
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:15,480
things in the future. 
Yeah agreed 150% but then after 

1023
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,240
the paper plate burrito 
incident. 

1024
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,360
Panda, Janelle What? 
All of a sudden we get some 

1025
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,520
details. 
Oh my gosh, I couldn't believe 

1026
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,320
it. 
And she just what? 

1027
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,360
She just, oh, yeah. 
And this is my mom. 

1028
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,880
And you know, like she just 
throws it off the cuff so 

1029
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,720
quickly, like, no big deal. 
Yes. 

1030
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,720
And it's very interesting. 
And and she then kind of 

1031
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,720
explains why it's no big deal, 
right. 

1032
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:42,640
But it also was just a little 
fucking weird that your mom is 

1033
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,120
married to your husband's. 
Right. 

1034
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,600
And it is brought up classic 
Janelle, classic Janelle. 

1035
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,120
Oh, it's just what it is, blah, 
blah, blah, yada, yada, yada, 

1036
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,560
hot throw in a little line here 
we go. 

1037
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,200
Move on. 
And it's like, girl, like 

1038
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,800
earlier we were introduced to 
these people in the episode. 

1039
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,200
Now, of course this is through 
production and editing, but 

1040
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,040
we're introduced to these people
and crucial elements are left 

1041
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,520
out. 
Now you are explaining them like

1042
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,440
it's like, oh, you know, when 
you tie your shoes, you make the

1043
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,520
rabbit ears and pull it through.
Then you got a shoe like, OK, 

1044
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,480
girl, but like, your mom is 
married to your husband's 

1045
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,080
father. 
This is going to make people ask

1046
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,840
questions and people are going 
to be like, what the hell is 

1047
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,960
this? 
And you're making it seem like 

1048
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,240
it's like, you know, well, you 
know what? 

1049
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,760
You do this, you know, you 
lather before you rinse. 

1050
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,840
I mean, I don't know, Like it 
was just very strange to me. 

1051
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,040
Well, it's not like I married my
stepbrother. 

1052
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,480
Oh. 
Oh, really? 

1053
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,640
It's not. 
Yeah. 

1054
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,920
Oh. 
Yeah, OK, this was actually the 

1055
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,640
interesting part. 
So she started it off by saying 

1056
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:46,640
that, as I've said before, most 
of my family disowned me when I 

1057
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,520
chose this lifestyle. 
Yes, they had an intervention 

1058
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,280
and you didn't care and you were
disowned. 

1059
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,000
Correct. 
And the only person that didn't 

1060
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,280
was her mom. 
Yeah. 

1061
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,040
But interestingly enough, when I
started getting into this 

1062
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,920
lifestyle, then my mom started 
to consider it. 

1063
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:10,920
And throughout that process, she
met Kody's dad and they got 

1064
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:16,240
married three months before Kody
and Janelle. 

1065
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:23,040
So she tries to say it's not 
really salacious or anything. 

1066
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,480
Now, I get it. 
You didn't grow up with Kody as 

1067
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,120
a sibling in your house. 
It's he's not your stepbrother 

1068
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:34,240
in that sense, I get it. 
But this is unusual. 

1069
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:41,600
Now this is unusual. 
Yeah, it is unusual. 

1070
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,720
We got back to Janelle and 
Cheryl on the couch and they 

1071
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,600
talk about supporting their 
family in different ways, which 

1072
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,600
is a thing that we've discussed 
multiple times even on this 

1073
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,440
show. 
But I thought it was a good 

1074
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,360
confirmation to hear from the 
older generation about how that 

1075
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,400
they went through that and 
recognize that, well, my, I have

1076
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,240
frustrations with you. 
Things have been complicated, 

1077
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,120
things have been challenging, 
but you bring something to the 

1078
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,560
family that I don't and that 
benefits us holistically. 

1079
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,360
So I thought it was once again, 
another cute moment. 

1080
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,080
Like having these two on the 
couch was a great thing for this

1081
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,360
episode. 
It was wonderful. 

1082
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,560
I loved it. 
I think they mentioned that they

1083
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,240
are the very best of friends 
now. 

1084
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,000
Now. 
Yeah, but it wasn't that way at 

1085
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,800
the beginning. 
It took a long time. 

1086
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,440
And you can, I think you can say
that. 

1087
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,360
I think you can tell that it was
only the two of them, right? 

1088
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,240
Yes. 
OK. 

1089
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:38,640
So I think that they recognize 
the jobs that they have in their

1090
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,800
families, right? 
Like what, what their marriage 

1091
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,440
situation is. 
But it's kind of unfortunate 

1092
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,760
that they didn't get to wife #3 
or maybe that there hadn't been 

1093
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,760
one wife before the two of them.
Only because I don't think they 

1094
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,800
realize that they're missing out
on Meri's role in the family of 

1095
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:07,080
Tooth Puller and packing Nazi 
and something Goddess, photo 

1096
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,240
goddess and central packing. 
Packing. 

1097
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,640
Yes, yes, yes. 
OK, OK, we got it. 

1098
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,400
Which is so funny that you say 
that because Meri's the first 

1099
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,520
wife. 
So it's so funny how that's. 

1100
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,120
Like that's what I'm saying. 
Maybe there should have been one

1101
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,480
before the two of them, right? 
Like that's that's what I think 

1102
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,400
it. 
Should have been so. 

1103
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,160
They just missed out on that 
part of it. 

1104
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:32,280
Unfortunate for them. 
There's one one really important

1105
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,200
thing that we have not yet 
discussed about these two women,

1106
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,240
though. 
Oh God, OK. 

1107
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:43,080
What were they wearing, Chris? 
Oh God, well I remember them 

1108
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,160
walking up in the later part of 
the episode. 

1109
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,320
They were wearing blouses. 
We'll get to those blouses down 

1110
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,080
the line. 
I don't remember what they were.

1111
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,960
I wasn't paying attention to 
what they were wearing. 

1112
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,360
Well, good news, I can tell. 
You. 

1113
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,160
Oh good. 
So Janelle, Yeah, it's the first

1114
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,360
time I'm saying that name 
because I've been terrified the 

1115
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,560
entire time. 
We're talking stuff. 

1116
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:10,160
Janelle is wearing. 
It's so funny because I actually

1117
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:15,760
have this exact fabric tucked 
away in a box damask tablecloth 

1118
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:23,160
as a like jacket blouse thing. 
Burgundy damask. 

1119
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,160
Yes, burgundy damask fabric. 
Like the royal floral, like 

1120
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,280
whatever part of it's shiny, 
part of it's not, but it's the 

1121
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,600
same color kind of stitch and 
oh. 

1122
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,920
Yep. 
She's fancy. 

1123
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,520
It's. 
I'm not saying it looks bad and 

1124
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,520
I'm not making fun, but boy are 
these choices I am making. 

1125
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,760
Fun. 
You are making fun, but it's 

1126
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,440
reasonable. 
I have the tablecloth. 

1127
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,520
OK, Yep. 
And then our friend Cheryl is 

1128
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:52,960
wearing, it's a tasteful country
blue collared kind of jacket, 

1129
01:00:53,400 --> 01:01:00,000
maybe buttoned with stitching, 
you know, like quilting in the 

1130
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:05,360
shape of hearts with a very nice
diamond heart necklace. 

1131
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,000
Oh, so very special. 
So they're trying. 

1132
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,680
No, they it was their fanciest 
of attire. 

1133
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,000
They're like, we're we're 
sitting down for an interview, 

1134
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,520
we're being found. 
They're wearing their nicest 

1135
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,800
stuff. 
Quote, UN quote. 

1136
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,000
Now, they you they definitely 
tried with their appearances in 

1137
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,080
the interviews. 
Yeah. 

1138
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,920
You know, as far as like hair 
and makeup and things like that.

1139
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,880
Like they looked, I mean, 
compared to on the ranch, they 

1140
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,080
looked much more put together. 
And I don't want you to be put 

1141
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,120
together on the ranch, by the 
way. 

1142
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,760
Please don't. 
It's fine. 

1143
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,400
No. 
Now that you're saying that, I 

1144
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,280
do recall the color of Janelle's
jacket or whatever, and I was 

1145
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,520
like, oh, it reminds me of 
Members Only jackets where there

1146
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,440
was that color of like this 
brownish, reddish something. 

1147
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,440
And what did you say, Damask? 
Damask is the the the pattern. 

1148
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,480
OK, OK, OK. 
But it was like a burgundy. 

1149
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,600
A Burgundy. 
Color. 

1150
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,320
Yes, yes. 
Now I love I I didn't really pay

1151
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,760
attention to their fashions. 
I don't know. 

1152
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,440
Well, I have some more to tell 
you about later. 

1153
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,920
We'll go back. 
Yeah, I'm a bad gay. 

1154
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,760
So what a treat, what a treat 
they are. 

1155
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,640
And I actually genuinely mean 
that. 

1156
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,960
I'm not just being an asshole. 
But we had to mention it. 

1157
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:20,080
We had to talk about it. 
So then we do a cut to the kids 

1158
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:25,280
outside with some of the adults 
getting ready to do more of the 

1159
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,200
cattle, driving cattle, whatnot.
There's some terms that get 

1160
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,320
thrown around that I'm not 
really all that accustomed to. 

1161
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,640
I recognized and heard the word 
cattle more than I have in a 

1162
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,200
while, which is great. 
I'm very excited about that. 

1163
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,600
But they're outside. 
It's kind of fun because the 

1164
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,480
background's totally Wyoming. 
There's like the wood fencing, 

1165
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,600
the like 2 paint, the two 
logged. 

1166
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:49,960
I don't know what you can call 
that. 

1167
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,120
And Uncle Tim is talking about 
getting the cow, like getting 

1168
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,040
the cow ready and how he's like,
no, there's no wrestling, which 

1169
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,760
is, you know, not wrestling that
thing you do with a girl in a 

1170
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,400
back seat. 
Which she says to like a 7 year 

1171
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,600
old. 
Yeah, which she's saying to. 

1172
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,720
I don't know if it was Garrison.
It was definitely. 

1173
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,160
It wasn't even one of the older 
kids. 

1174
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,360
No, it was literally one of the 
younger kids. 

1175
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,680
Yeah. 
So that was a little weird. 

1176
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:20,040
I kind of suspect that he's 
being filmed and is trying to be

1177
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,280
a little more or something than 
he is. 

1178
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,680
I hope he was definitely. 
If the vibe was amping up his, 

1179
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,280
like, funny side. 
Was his funny side funny? 

1180
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,080
I'll let you decide. 
No, I'll say no, it's not. 

1181
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,840
Funny. 
After the wrestling joke, which 

1182
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,000
landed nowhere, he warns the 
kids of being safe with the 

1183
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,920
animals and taking it easy to 
avoid stressing out the animals 

1184
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,800
and the humans. 
He there's some reference about 

1185
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,520
how he does it differently than 
than Kody's dad used to do or 

1186
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,400
something. 
So I don't know what that means.

1187
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,240
I feel like there's maybe a 
little bit of a negative 

1188
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,280
connotation about how when used 
to run the ranch and how now 

1189
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,160
Uncle Tim is like, we're not 
going to get anybody anxious, 

1190
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,400
we're going to do this, 
whatever. 

1191
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,600
And it did feel like a 
methodical process holistically.

1192
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,600
So can't put him down on his 
cattle management, but his 

1193
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,400
wrestling joke fell flat. 
Well, he actually gave some 

1194
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,720
specific examples of why he does
it, how he does it. 

1195
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:22,600
OK, so he said we don't yell at 
cows and we don't yell at people

1196
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,120
because they get stressed out. 
And when people get stressed out

1197
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,640
or they're moving too quickly, 
you know, we move slow. 

1198
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,000
We take our time. 
We do this when we don't do 

1199
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,760
that, you get injuries, cows get
stuck, horses get stuck, people 

1200
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,160
get bucked off horses, you know,
whatever. 

1201
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,760
And you know, it's quite likely 
that he is seeing all of those 

1202
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,520
things happen over the years, 
right? 

1203
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,120
So I thought that was very funny
or not very funny. 

1204
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,400
I thought it was great and it 
made sense. 

1205
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,960
And I think that it is kind of 
how, you know, ranching, 

1206
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,040
farming, many, many, many 
industries have changed so much 

1207
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,680
overtime with how people used to
do things, right. 

1208
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:08,080
So totally understand that Kody 
did say, yeah, Tim's doing doing

1209
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,800
things a new way and, you know, 
seemed kind of whatever. 

1210
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,120
And then do you remember how 
Kody started off the cattle 

1211
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,000
drive? 
Oh God no. 

1212
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,560
So there's trying to get the 
kids like rounded up and 

1213
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,640
whatever. 
And I think they had. 

1214
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,040
I don't think he was just trying
to get him into vehicles. 

1215
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,400
Maybe he was or something, but 
maybe he was. 

1216
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:41,680
But it was move it now let's go.
And it was like like he's 

1217
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,560
screaming at everybody after 
they've just had this long 

1218
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,920
conversation about we're just 
going to take our time and do it

1219
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,000
slow and be quiet and stress 
free. 

1220
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,760
Move it now. 
Let's go like. 

1221
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,400
It's trucking. 
Classic Kody. 

1222
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,320
That is so funny. 
I didn't put the pieces together

1223
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,920
when watching and that's 
actually, you know, I got to 

1224
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,360
give credit to some producers 
sometimes. 

1225
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,320
That was great that Uncle Tim is
talking about, you know, and, 

1226
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,440
and the reason that I want to 
give Uncle Tim a little bit of 

1227
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,240
credibility is because it felt 
to me a bit like work smarter, 

1228
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,840
not harder kind of vibes. 
Like where it's like he didn't 

1229
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,280
come across as a clown. 
He was trying to be funny. 

1230
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,640
It wasn't that funny, but he 
seems like these are good 

1231
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,520
things. 
Cut to Kody literally horse 

1232
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,360
turning around me like come on 
everybody, let's go and. 

1233
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,640
That is what it was. 
It was on the horses. 

1234
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,720
It was literally like getting it
all going. 

1235
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,840
It was. 
It was totally brown fucking 

1236
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,560
moment where the horse is like 
he's making the horse spin 

1237
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,040
around to like take off to go 
wherever. 

1238
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,400
And it was very much a like, 
look at me, I'm in my moment 

1239
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,000
moment, come on everybody, let's
go. 

1240
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,080
And it was like we just talked 
about how probably not doing 

1241
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,080
that is best. 
Yeah. 

1242
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:55,120
Faster is not always better, 
like sometimes twice as long is 

1243
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,320
just as fine. 
And Kody, let me remind you that

1244
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,240
a day ago you said that the 
reason everyone's behind is 

1245
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,640
because of you. 
So like, let's not just yell at 

1246
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,920
everyone to go like oh God, 
fucking Kody. 

1247
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,520
He is so obtuse. 
Yep. 

1248
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:12,040
So it was pretty cute though. 
The kids are hopping up like a 

1249
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,440
lot of the kids that have spent 
time at the ranch are hopping up

1250
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,360
on their horses and doing all 
this. 

1251
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,480
I almost laughed out loud 
because Christine just seemed so

1252
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,040
blown away. 
Now, first of all, I can't. 

1253
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,200
I mean, I'm I'm sure maybe you 
haven't seen photos of it, maybe

1254
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,480
not. 
But like she seems so shocked by

1255
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,360
all the grown kids and their 
behavior on these animals and 

1256
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,280
what they were doing and those 
types of things. 

1257
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,360
And granted, her kids don't go 
there as much. 

1258
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,640
It doesn't sound like so that 
she just didn't. 

1259
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,960
She just didn't know. 
But she's seeing all of their 

1260
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,200
kids out there doing this and 
just like blown away and how 

1261
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,880
talented and how comfortable and
how she she gets it now. 

1262
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,360
I get it. 
I was like hysterical that, you 

1263
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,240
know, 20 years in, you finally 
are like, oh, this is what they 

1264
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,520
mean, right? 
You know I like. 

1265
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,640
How was she kind of so distant 
mentally from what happens at 

1266
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,160
the ranch that's. 
A little weird. 

1267
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:09,200
It seemed strange to me now. 
It would make sense, of course, 

1268
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,840
that Janelle and Kody's kids 
would be there more than anybody

1269
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,120
else's. 
So Meri's child hadn't gone up 

1270
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,880
much. 
Christine's kids hadn't gone up 

1271
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,040
much. 
This was Robin's kids first 

1272
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,560
time. 
So the other kids when they had 

1273
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,160
gone, it seemed like part of 
like family vacation. 

1274
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,640
And of course you're probably 
doing little bits of things, but

1275
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,600
the the Janelle's kids would go 
and spend the whole summer and 

1276
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,960
so. 
But there was something that was

1277
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:39,920
weird that she was just having 
this aha moment because I don't 

1278
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:40,760
know. 
I don't know. 

1279
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,439
Amen. 
It It was great to see Logan, 

1280
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,120
Hunter and Maddie riding on 
these horses. 

1281
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,680
They looked like naturals, like 
they were really great. 

1282
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,359
Logan at one of the first scenes
where they show them all riding 

1283
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:56,279
off in the horses, he's wearing 
a cowboy hat and flies off. 

1284
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,080
And it was cute because then 
they circle back to him with 

1285
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,439
more footage wearing the cowboy 
hat and he looks like a natural.

1286
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,120
He looks like he should be 
wearing that cowboy hat. 

1287
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,439
He should be riding a horse. 
He's got it. 

1288
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,800
And that was great. 
Also they show Meri on a horse 

1289
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,960
taken off and she looks like a 
natural. 

1290
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,160
Totally. 
Meri looked good riding a horse,

1291
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,840
and I was like, this was not on 
my cards for this. 

1292
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,680
For this episode, we're seeing 
Meri hopping on a horse and 

1293
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,800
taking off. 
And I was like, all right, Meri,

1294
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,080
like she's got some 
coordination. 

1295
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,200
She knows how to ride a horse. 
Yeah, Who knew? 

1296
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:28,080
Absolutely. 
Yeah, it was. 

1297
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,279
It was fun. 
I don't know. 

1298
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,880
It's these genuine moments that 
I like so much about everything.

1299
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,120
Yeah. 
That we see back then. 

1300
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,800
You know, I like that. 
I like that. 

1301
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,000
And as you said, are we really 
surprised that it's Janelle's 

1302
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,760
kids who have leaned into more 
of the ranch time and whatever? 

1303
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:50,160
No, she also has more of older 
kids. 

1304
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,960
Like, you know, literally to 
have Logan, Hunter and Maddie, 

1305
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,320
they are some of the older kids.
So they get to go and do that 

1306
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,000
shit. 
But it looked great. 

1307
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,520
Oh, I wish they had shown us the
the spot of the teepee. 

1308
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,880
OK. 
Yes, that would have been great.

1309
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,760
I know. 
Janelle, where did you set up 

1310
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,680
that TV for a couple hours back 
however many years ago? 

1311
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,920
I wonder if Janelle set up the 
TV before or after her mother 

1312
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,120
was married to Kody's dad. 
Well, there's not a lot of time 

1313
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:19,760
in. 
Yeah. 

1314
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,680
I mean, it's pretty. 
It's pretty short time. 

1315
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,040
Yeah, it's like a lot happened 
in those four months. 

1316
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,200
My mom married his dad, and I 
moved onto the property in a 

1317
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,960
teepee for two hours, and then I
married him. 

1318
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,760
Like, Oh my gosh, it was a crazy
couple once. 

1319
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,760
Yeah, the fall of 2001. 
It was a crazy time. 

1320
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,320
Like, also nothing salacious 
here, yeah. 

1321
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,640
Yeah, just casually mentioning 
it. 

1322
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,640
Oh my God. 
Oh, and Janelle did have some 

1323
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,960
mascara on while out at the 
ranch. 

1324
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,400
And I was like, oh, Janelle's 
eyes. 

1325
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,320
She's got some pretty eyes. 
They were very blue with her 

1326
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,760
blonde hair. 
Every once in a while to know 

1327
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,520
you got to give it to me. 
When she's happy. 

1328
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,760
Like literally that's it. 
Like when she. 

1329
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,320
Was she was literally out there 
being like living her life? 

1330
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,200
Yeah, that's I, I think for all 
of them. 

1331
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,560
Makeup, no makeup, good outfits,
bad outfits. 

1332
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,120
When they are genuine and they 
are happy and they're it, it 

1333
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,680
doesn't really matter any of 
that. 

1334
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,280
You can just tell like they just
look so much better. 

1335
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,120
Yeah, yes. 
So let me go back to Chery's 

1336
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,480
home on the ranch where Janelle 
and Cheryl are making food for 

1337
01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:27,960
everybody that's out doing the 
cattle corral. 

1338
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,920
And they joke. 
They joke about feeding 

1339
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,240
everybody. 
And it was actually super cute, 

1340
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,600
like their little banter back 
and forth how they buy. 

1341
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,520
I was going to say non 
disposable. 

1342
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,600
Non perishable. 
Non perishable food items and 

1343
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,520
that they had that moment of 
like, oh, do I need cornbread? 

1344
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,720
Like do you have any bread? 
We've got potatoes. 

1345
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,920
And I was so cute. 
I love the idea of trying to 

1346
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,720
make all this food for all these
people. 

1347
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,760
And they were being great about 
it being in the same kitchen. 

1348
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,840
And it, it did remind me of 
women that are older, like 

1349
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,640
they're the long and the 
journey. 

1350
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,040
Like they probably were 
satisfied by doing this, but it 

1351
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,520
just was super cute. 
It was super cute. 

1352
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,040
It was cute. 
I think my one of my favorite 

1353
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,200
lines and I'm going to not get 
it completely correct, but with 

1354
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,040
something along the lines of 
well, I never have a problem 

1355
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,400
with them eating what I cook. 
It's just if I don't make enough

1356
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,360
or something like that, there 
was like OK. 

1357
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,160
Yeah, they're at home. 
Like, I was like, absolutely. 

1358
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,840
Also they were making chili and 
then they said the potato bit 

1359
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:29,920
right? 
Don't eat the cornbread. 

1360
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,840
Got the potatoes. 
I didn't even realize baked 

1361
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,600
potatoes. 
Baked potatoes and chili. 

1362
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,360
Are you killing me or killing 
me? 

1363
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,680
Are you kidding me? 
Are. 

1364
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,720
You killing me? 
That's amazing. 

1365
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,040
Are you killing me? 
Well, I'll, I'll slow down on my

1366
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,000
drinks, but that's. 
Amazing. 

1367
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,760
I it sounded so delicious. 
Yes, we already ate dinner, but 

1368
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,040
I'm like, I want a fucking baked
potato and some chili and some 

1369
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,360
cheese and some sour cream and 
some chives and Oh my God. 

1370
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,800
Amazing. 
So yes, good job. 

1371
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,800
They were adorable. 
So after they show us some of 

1372
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:11,800
the meal making we flashback to 
couch interview moment right 

1373
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:21,560
where she is saying Janelle 
sorry is saying that she 

1374
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,920
believes that after well, kind 
of that they don't believe 

1375
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,600
Kody's dad is maybe going to be 
with us that much longer. 

1376
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:35,360
But that she believes that even 
after Kody's dad passes, that 

1377
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,320
Janelle and Cheryl will still 
remain together and kind of live

1378
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,480
their lives how they are 
currently right? 

1379
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:44,280
Even even when he's no longer 
there. 

1380
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:54,520
She says that she thinks that 
their Janelle believes. 

1381
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:59,480
She kind of gestures to 
Christine, Meri and Robin and 

1382
01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:04,560
and she believes that their 
relationships would continue if 

1383
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,480
something happened to Kody, 
right? 

1384
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,920
Which Robin emphatically agrees.
Of course, Of course. 

1385
01:14:13,480 --> 01:14:14,720
Now listen. 
It made me puke and then I 

1386
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,600
swallowed it and I puked it back
up and I swallowed it again. 

1387
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,520
If Kody had croaked 2 weeks 
after that interview, yeah maybe

1388
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,160
they would all stay together. 
Pretty sure not. 

1389
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,040
Yeah, Robin would have kept. 
She would have been the glue 

1390
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,240
that kept everyone together. 
So like how funny that they're 

1391
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,120
even trying to pretend that this
single man is not with. 

1392
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,200
They have not gotten 
companionship with each other 

1393
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,840
yet. 
At this point I don't even think

1394
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,600
Christine and Janelle would have
remained. 

1395
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,280
They weren't even friends. 
They were. 

1396
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:49,520
No one is really all that tight.
And so no, they're not. 

1397
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:55,600
And I think that Cheryl and 
Janelle have had all that time 

1398
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,840
and really done that work and 
gotten through the hard times. 

1399
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,120
And maybe I'm giving them more 
credit than what they deserve at

1400
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,200
this point, too. 
I don't know. 

1401
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:08,480
But yeah, no, obviously we know 
that there's no way that they 

1402
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:10,600
ever that. 
They would have no, they would 

1403
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,320
not have stayed. 
They wouldn't, they wouldn't 

1404
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,680
know each other. 
And you know, and that's why I 

1405
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,920
have actually brought up Janelle
and Cheryl's age more than once 

1406
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:24,280
is because I feel like there's a
bit of a thing with entering 

1407
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:30,040
autumn of life, getting into 
older age where you there's less

1408
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,320
of a fight against things. 
There's less of a desire to 

1409
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,880
change things. 
I feel like you settle in with 

1410
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,040
people, you learn these things. 
And yes, they had things to get 

1411
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,640
over and maybe they did grow to 
appreciate each other. 

1412
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,520
But I definitely think part of 
that is age. 

1413
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,200
I think they are women of a 
certain age that are like, we 

1414
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,680
are great friends now. 
And it's like, well, if you were

1415
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,280
part of the same community, even
as part of a family, by a 

1416
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,600
certain point you probably 
become friendly, get over some 

1417
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,800
things, et cetera. 
There's a level of acceptance, 

1418
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,160
Yeah. 
You accept the things you cannot

1419
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,280
change, right? 
Yes. 

1420
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,520
And I think that most people 
have to come to a level of that 

1421
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,280
to get through lots of 
situations. 

1422
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,440
Yeah. 
And why do you know? 

1423
01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:09,880
Look at me like that when you 
said that. 

1424
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,960
I wasn't meeting, you know, some
people are better about that 

1425
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,960
than others. 
And you know that was not a 

1426
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,600
shade at you so. 
She's just trying to get to this

1427
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:26,920
podcast with me, everybody. 
Again, I forgot I was going to 

1428
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,600
put out the alert at the 
beginning. 

1429
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,160
You guys, I'm still being held 
captive in the basement. 

1430
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,920
Help me, help me, help me. 
He's turning me over to Kody 

1431
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,560
soon. 
Allegedly the fifth wife. 

1432
01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:43,680
If you don't know what we mean, 
you have to go back and listen 

1433
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,720
to the other episode. 
Yeah, last our last episode, 

1434
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,760
yes. 
I think we're going to make it 

1435
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:50,560
though. 
I think we'll be OK. 

1436
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:56,560
Yeah, Then we go back to the 
drama, the drama unfolding on 

1437
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,880
the ranch. 
Mckelty leaves on a horse. 

1438
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,480
And there's been some warnings 
from people about don't go on 

1439
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:06,760
this horse, don't go on this boy
horse. 

1440
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,600
They mentioned boy horse. 
I don't really know what that 

1441
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,960
means, but it's a male horse. 
But yeah, don't go on this 

1442
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,560
horse. 
So this horse is trouble like 

1443
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,560
blah, blah. 
Mckelty gets on the horse. 

1444
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,000
We love Mckelty. 
I'm Mckelty's number one fan. 

1445
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,400
So she gets on this horse and 
she leaves, and then apparently 

1446
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,400
the horse comes back without her
and she flies off the horse, 

1447
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,280
though, while it's going crazy 
and she lands on her hip. 

1448
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,440
Kody says that he sees this 
whole thing. 

1449
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:35,640
I'm not sure that he saw it. 
I don't know if I believe him, 

1450
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,640
but whatever. 
And then he runs out to help 

1451
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:41,440
her. 
You, you don't believe that he 

1452
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:44,320
thought this is the thing I. 
Don't know if I don't know. 

1453
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:49,120
They make these dramatics out of
the Horse Comes Running back 

1454
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:53,000
without Mckelty, but Kelsey is 
like 20 yards from them. 

1455
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,640
She's not sober away. 
I shouldn't say that I don't 

1456
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,960
know that I believe Kody. 
I just don't know what I don't 

1457
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,040
believe about this scenario 
because they're making it sound 

1458
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,600
like no one saw it, but then 
Kody saw it and. 

1459
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,000
But she was also like right 
fucking next to that. 

1460
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,480
Like you could see her. 
Like she was right there. 

1461
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,880
They made it sound like all of a
sudden we came upon Mckelsey 

1462
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,600
lying in the grass and it was 
like, no, you looked over to the

1463
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,560
right and Mckelsey was lying on 
the ground like. 

1464
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,960
But they don't have any footage 
of her falling off the horse, 

1465
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,560
which is why I kind of feel like
maybe no one saw it. 

1466
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,520
And then Kody talking about it 
like he saw it. 

1467
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,000
And maybe I'm misplacing my rage
on Kody. 

1468
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,880
But really, there's some 
something messed up about that. 

1469
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,920
But at the end of the day, she 
falls off this horse, blah, 

1470
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,080
blah, blah, She's on the ground.
Kody comes over the knight in 

1471
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,320
white shining armor and guides 
her up. 

1472
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,960
Does the whole like step by 
step, like get on your knees, 

1473
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,240
get on your legs, you know, can 
you put weight on yourself, 

1474
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,560
blah, blah, blah. 
He keeps touching her shirt on 

1475
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:54,520
the backside as if he's going to
inspect, and she's no, no, 

1476
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,520
don't, no. 
It hurts. 

1477
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,480
And eventually she's standing up
straight and he pulls up her 

1478
01:18:59,480 --> 01:19:02,600
shirt and she has like a bruise 
on her lower back. 

1479
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,440
You winced like, oh, is it going
to be bloody or? 

1480
01:19:06,440 --> 01:19:09,040
What is it going to be? 
I know because it did seem like 

1481
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,000
what is it going to be and then 
it turned out it was like a 

1482
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,800
little bruise on her body. 
Not not trying to downplay it, 

1483
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,360
I'm sure it hurt a lot but it 
was a bruise on her muffin top. 

1484
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,760
On the backside. 
And then that's that. 

1485
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:26,560
Well, that's that. 
Actually, no. 

1486
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,600
No, I mean, yeah. 
That is not that, that's not 

1487
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:34,560
that, but OK, so a few things 
develop. 

1488
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,760
Cheryl's a nurse, right? 
So they go and get her expert 

1489
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:43,560
guidance and yeah. 
Christine puts Mckelty in a van 

1490
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,200
to bring to Cheryl's place 
because Cheryl's a nurse and 

1491
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,920
she's going to examine her. 
But while Christine does that 

1492
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:55,640
and cares for their child who 
has been thrown off a horse, 

1493
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,000
Kody stays to teach that horse a
lesson. 

1494
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,000
Yeah, he does. 
Yeah, that's what you do on the 

1495
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,560
ranch. 
Do you think maybe somebody else

1496
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,720
could have though and he could 
have gone with his kid? 

1497
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,760
Like do you think there's a rule
that it's the father of the 

1498
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,760
child that got thrown off of the
horse that has to teach at the? 

1499
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,360
Last, he definitely had to step 
into that role. 

1500
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,680
Like Uncle Tim could have 
definitely done this. 

1501
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,560
The ranch hands that are there 
all the time could have done it.

1502
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,760
But no, Kody had to do. 
It also who the fuck cares? 

1503
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,440
You don't live there. 
It's not your horse, it's not 

1504
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:28,680
your ranch like whatever I And 
by the way, the horse doesn't 

1505
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,200
need to be taught a lesson. 
Your child does. 

1506
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:36,440
Because the horse everyone knows
is not supposed to be ridden yet

1507
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:38,640
it is not trained. 
This isn't the horse's fault. 

1508
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,840
Yeah, yeah. 
And. 

1509
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,960
And Gwendolyn's like approaching
the horse. 

1510
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,080
Well, Kody, because Kody gets on
the horse. 

1511
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,480
Because. 
He's teaching it the lesson. 

1512
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:48,880
Right, which I don't remember if
we saw him getting on the horse 

1513
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,560
or not, but he's teaching this 
horse the lesson. 

1514
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,520
All of a sudden he's on the 
horse and Gwendolyn's running 

1515
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,200
towards the horse and he's like,
get away, get away. 

1516
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,480
I told you to get away. 
This is a serious thing. 

1517
01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:00,360
And it's like, I don't know, it 
was hard to gauge. 

1518
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,360
It felt like no one else kind of
knew what was going on. 

1519
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,480
Kind of one of those dad's 
moments that I've talked about 

1520
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:06,360
before where it's like the dad's
doing whatever. 

1521
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,280
No one else knows what the 
fuck's going on. 

1522
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,240
And it's like, you could use 
your words or you could do 

1523
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,280
something like, I'm sure the 
kid, poor Gwendolyn, probably 

1524
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,800
was just like, oh, it's like a 
moment. 

1525
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,640
It's fun. 
And meanwhile, no, get away from

1526
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,880
the horse. 
But Kody had to take his moment 

1527
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,120
to do that. 
Well, and as we will see later 

1528
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,400
in the episode too, like they 
pick and choose when they set 

1529
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:31,040
boundaries for their kids. 
OK, so it's it's this reminds me

1530
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,880
that literally actually funny 
reminds me. 

1531
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,040
My parents never told us no. 
Like they didn't, they kind of 

1532
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,160
just let us do. 
We were going to do and, you 

1533
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,200
know, learn our lessons and 
blah, blah, blah. 

1534
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:48,520
And I remember the one time they
told me no and I was I wanted to

1535
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:56,200
go to a 16 plus dance club night
an hour and a half away from 

1536
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,080
home. 
In St. 

1537
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,680
Cloud, MN, I did. 
Oh, I think I'm familiar with 

1538
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:04,520
those 16 plus nights, yeah. 
And they said no, they were not 

1539
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,680
comfortable with me going. 
I was like, excuse me, what? 

1540
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,680
No, I've never heard such a 
thing. 

1541
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,720
Did I go on the specific date 
and time that I asked him about 

1542
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:19,360
going? 
Well. 

1543
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,200
No, I did not. 
You wouldn't disobey like that. 

1544
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,080
Did I stay at a friend's house 
the next weekend and go? 

1545
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,360
No. 
Yes, I did. 

1546
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,200
OK. 
Yes, I did. 

1547
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:36,160
Oh, terrible experience too 
anyway, but that's kind of the 

1548
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,640
risk when you don't put 
boundaries for your children, 

1549
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,480
then you just try them and 
they're like funny, right? 

1550
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:49,720
So I don't know, it was 
something else, but Kody like 

1551
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,920
just go take care of fun kid. 
Right now couldn't be concerned 

1552
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,600
with Mckelty had to be concerned
with correcting the horse, 

1553
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,880
right. 
No one else was available for 

1554
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,800
that. 
So, and like we said, Mckelty's 

1555
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,800
put into this the back of a 
suburban and driven to. 

1556
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:09,400
The one that's still running. 
Yeah, the I'm having flashbacks 

1557
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,240
to my childhood being like, 
yeah, we do have one car that's 

1558
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,760
running, like, oh, God. 
And so she's laying. 

1559
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,560
Mckelty is laying in the back of
the Suburban as they pull up to 

1560
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,480
Cheryl's house, and Cheryl comes
out to the vehicle and tells her

1561
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:27,080
to push with her leg. 
Like she's bracing her body up 

1562
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,840
against her foot while Mckelty's
laying in the car. 

1563
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,400
I don't know if it looks good or
bad or whatever. 

1564
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,640
I don't know what this should 
look like, but she's laying in 

1565
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,880
the back of this Suburban and 
Cheryl's saying push against me 

1566
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,240
and she's able to. 
So Cheryl's going. 

1567
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,240
I don't think anything's broken.
I think she just needs to go to 

1568
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,720
the chiropractor. 
Well, this is what I noticed 

1569
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:53,600
though. 
Cheryl said like, not like main 

1570
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:57,120
concerns about broken bones or 
anything like that, but that she

1571
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,240
was out of alignment, right. 
So she said she was out of 

1572
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,040
alignment. 
And then Cheryl said, so we're 

1573
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,200
going to call the we're going to
call somebody who could take 

1574
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,400
care of that, right? 
And she stopped herself short of

1575
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,680
saying chiropractor. 
OK, OK. 

1576
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:16,160
And so at that moment, I was 
like, is this, you know, 'cause 

1577
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:20,680
I mean, for a period of time and
still probably a period of time 

1578
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:25,080
today, chiropractors, there can 
be some that have questionable 

1579
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:28,240
practices or questionable 
promise as a result. 

1580
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:32,480
But also like, it's a legitimate
field and aligning bones and 

1581
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:36,240
bodies is important too. 
So like, I don't know, there's 

1582
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:37,320
some interesting shit though, 
right? 

1583
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,200
So to me, it seemed like Cheryl 
didn't want to say that that's 

1584
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:45,840
where they were sending her, but
Christine is about to hop in the

1585
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,920
car and she's like, Yep, we're 
going to the chiropractor and 

1586
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,440
like, literally doesn't care. 
And so I'm like, maybe I was 

1587
01:24:50,440 --> 01:24:54,240
over like analyzing what Cheryl 
said, but there was a something 

1588
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,360
about it that she stopped. 
There's a reason that she paused

1589
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,160
and the reason that she paused. 
It is the same reason that I'm 

1590
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,640
going why are you going to a 
chiropractor? 

1591
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,120
Well, why are you going to a 
chiropractor? 

1592
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:12,520
I would go to an emergency room.
Do I genuinely think that Cheryl

1593
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,440
thinks she fell off a horse and 
is just unaligned? 

1594
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,920
No. 
I think it's part of the culture

1595
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,480
that you don't go to urgent 
care, you don't go to the 

1596
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:24,680
emergency room. 
So chiropractor is the default 

1597
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,240
for some things. 
She did fall off a horse. 

1598
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,000
She might be on aligned and that
might be a great reason. 

1599
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,360
That might be a good thing to 
say in 20 minutes from when this

1600
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,440
happened, blah, blah blah. 
Through editing, cutting, all 

1601
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:40,760
the things. 
It feels not right to me to 

1602
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,760
bring a teenager to the 
chiropractor after they've 

1603
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,960
fallen off a horse. 
Yeah, it would not be my go to, 

1604
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,520
just to be super clear. 
Like that would not be my go to.

1605
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:57,600
However, if I was in a family 
that had a nurse that could like

1606
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:02,000
what's what's the triage? 
Yeah, things a bit. 

1607
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,120
Because she makes it clear that 
she's like, I'm not diagnosing, 

1608
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,120
I don't, I'm not a diagnostic or
something she has a term for. 

1609
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,960
It she, I think diagnostic or 
something like that. 

1610
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:18,120
So it seemed like she completed 
triage of some sort to kind of 

1611
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,000
at least determine like you 
would probably think that if it 

1612
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,800
was organs or something else, 
there would be some other sign 

1613
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,720
of discomfort and stress other 
than just the touching in the 

1614
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:34,680
places that they were getting. 
And so maybe it does make sense 

1615
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,560
that it's a chiropractor if you 
actually have a nurse that is 

1616
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,760
educated enough in the this 
area, these fields to kind of 

1617
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,160
like help. 
Do I, I don't know, I don't 

1618
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,280
know. 
So if there was a nurse on 

1619
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:50,960
property telling me that maybe 
that's the next right step, 

1620
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,200
maybe then like even today I'd 
feel differently about it. 

1621
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,400
But like, just in general, if 
that were my kid, we would be 

1622
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,920
going to an emergency room, you 
know? 

1623
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:06,520
However she comes back, they say
her hip was out of alignment. 

1624
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,240
She's still limping a little 
bit, but she's fine. 

1625
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:10,200
Yeah. 
You know. 

1626
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:14,920
So it is funny that the approach
to whatever happens is like 

1627
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,280
default to like, not actual 
urgent care or emergency room. 

1628
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,960
Mckelty comes back and is 
Mckelty. 

1629
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,440
And I'm like, how much of this 
is you being Mckelty? 

1630
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:25,800
Because I think the whole thing 
is you being Mckelty. 

1631
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,520
You weren't supposed to be on 
this horse. 

1632
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,960
You got flung from the horse. 
You're a drama queen. 

1633
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:34,000
You got a bruise on your muffin 
top and now whatever. 

1634
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:35,720
So we do know that muffin top is
at the. 

1635
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,480
Well, I guess maybe muffin top 
can go all the way around, huh? 

1636
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,280
Usually I think of it as the 
front. 

1637
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,640
Oh, I thought the muffin top was
on the side. 

1638
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:48,120
Oh, those are love handles. 
That's why I earlier I said but 

1639
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,760
on the back because I'm like. 
Yes, yes, OK. 

1640
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,880
But I guess if you think about a
muffin. 

1641
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:55,440
I know. 
Well, let's just call it her 

1642
01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:56,560
Bagel Bites. 
Oh my. 

1643
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,120
God, she got a bruise on her 
bagel bite. 

1644
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:04,560
Anyway, you have listed off a 
few of our favorite Mckelty 

1645
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,200
qualities, which is wonderful. 
Yes, Let's also not forget to 

1646
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,040
acknowledge one of the other M 
sisters, Miss Maddie. 

1647
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:15,200
Yes, Maddie, God bless her. 
I just want to say I told you 

1648
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,400
so, so bad. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1649
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:18,280
Amen. 
And. 

1650
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:20,880
She's like, yeah, because I 
fucking did. 

1651
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,160
Fucking told her not to do it. 
And what is that stupid bitch 

1652
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,120
too? 
She jumps up on that fucking 

1653
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,120
horse and here she is. 
Here she is. 

1654
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:32,560
And so you can say yeah, because
she literally did tell her. 

1655
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,320
So, and I love later how in the 
episode she's like, Oh yeah, and

1656
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,640
we have to have these younger 
kids learn lessons kind of like 

1657
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,840
Mckelty in the horse. 
And it was like, yes, because 

1658
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,760
literally Mckelty probably did 
actually need to learn that 

1659
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,320
fucking lesson. 
Like listen. 

1660
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,560
But Maddie also acknowledged she
goes, look, I didn't say 

1661
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,160
anything right when she got back
because I wanted to make sure 

1662
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,280
she was OK, but she's obviously 
fine. 

1663
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:58,280
And so I do still want to 
reiterate that you fucked up and

1664
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,560
it's all your fault. 
He Maddie in this instance. 

1665
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,800
For sure. 
Well, no 100%, but it was just 

1666
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,760
she, she restrained herself. 
But then she was like, I am not 

1667
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,760
stopping. 
And I 100% feel that. 

1668
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,640
I feel that. 
Oh, it was so good. 

1669
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,040
So then they go back to the 
cattle and they describe how the

1670
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,640
cattle go through shoots at the 
corral, which is like, you know,

1671
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,840
the guards that you see now, 
most of us didn't grow up with 

1672
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,240
cattle and cows and whatever, 
but they go through these shoots

1673
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,400
at the corral and they're doing 
it so that they can vaccinate 

1674
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,520
the cows. 
And it was interesting to me 

1675
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,320
because they have, after the cow
gets a shot from the vaccine, 

1676
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,800
they mark them by putting A tag 
in their ear. 

1677
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,480
And I grew up across the street 
from a dairy farm, some sort of 

1678
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:48,160
cattle thing out in the country,
out in the boonies, like where 

1679
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,600
you grew up. 
And when I was young, I didn't 

1680
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,040
know. 
We didn't know what the tags 

1681
01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:55,920
signified, but sometimes they 
would write the names on the 

1682
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,600
tags. 
So we would be near the electric

1683
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,760
fence and we'd be looking and 
there'd be like Daisy and Olive 

1684
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,880
in sunshine. 
And we'd be like sunshine, Daisy

1685
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,240
and Olive, like, Oh my gosh, 
these cows have names. 

1686
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:09,640
We'd make up scenarios about 
what the cows did and what their

1687
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,240
lives were. 
And then randomly they'd be out 

1688
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,440
walking down the road and we'd 
have to call the police to be 

1689
01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:16,960
like, the cows are out on the 
road and like, that's like 

1690
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,160
country living. 
And I've kind of felt like it 

1691
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:20,640
was fun to watch them doing 
this. 

1692
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,720
I shouldn't say fine. 
It was something to watch them 

1693
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,040
doing this stuff with the cattle
where it was like, oh, I've seen

1694
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,000
this my whole life and I didn't 
even know what it was about. 

1695
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,200
You referenced the electric 
fence, Yes. 

1696
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:36,120
OK, Yeah. 
And this gives me a flashback to

1697
01:30:36,440 --> 01:30:42,680
my days of working at the True 
Value hardware store in rural 

1698
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,160
America. 
God bless. 

1699
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:50,880
And I will never forget one of 
the old men farmers that would 

1700
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,960
come into the store and he'd 
just wander through whatever 

1701
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:59,600
else. 
And he walks by a shelf one day 

1702
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,520
and he picks up this box and 
it's an electric fence tester. 

1703
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:10,080
And he goes, who would have 
thunk that? 

1704
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:16,560
And my mom is like, yeah, pretty
handy, I guess. 

1705
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,120
And he goes, well, it's getting 
real hard to get those kids to 

1706
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:24,000
touch it, you know, like, Oh my 
gosh, he can't get his kids to 

1707
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,480
grab onto the electric fence 
anymore. 

1708
01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:29,080
I think we can find better ways,
Sir. 

1709
01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:32,840
Well, and across the street from
my parents house, the neighbors 

1710
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,760
own that bit of land and on the 
front side of the dairy farm are

1711
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,200
these cows. 
They made a a couple of golf 

1712
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,880
holes in this. 
They would just mow it and put 

1713
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,800
golf holes and we would go hit 
balls and try to get in the hall

1714
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,680
and whatever. 
And one time we hit a ball over 

1715
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,800
and I took the Golf Club and 
just went to lift up the fence 

1716
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,520
so my brother could go under it.
And it shocked the shit out of 

1717
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,360
me. 
I mean, it's funny because you, 

1718
01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:58,960
it's one of those things where 
it's like wasn't really that 

1719
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,440
bad, but while you're in it, 
it's like obviously altering in 

1720
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,880
whatever ways. 
So I like lifted the thing up 

1721
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,960
and dropped it and was like, oh,
that was crazy. 

1722
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,640
And it was like, right, you just
touched an electric fence with a

1723
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,000
Golf Club. 
So I'm, that's me. 

1724
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,520
I also peed on that electric 
fence and that was the same 

1725
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,280
experience. 
It isn't different if it goes in

1726
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,520
your penis or in your hand, it's
the same thing. 

1727
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,680
It's like my body's just stopped
and I got to move over to the 

1728
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,680
side and gather my thoughts. 
Like. 

1729
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:29,280
Yep, there you go. 
So pee or touch it, it's going 

1730
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,920
to do the same thing. 
Well, I've done neither of 

1731
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:36,240
those, but I am so thankful that
you have shared that with me. 

1732
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,840
I appreciate it. 
And no one else. 

1733
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:44,520
So the grandmas deliver the 
dinner to the corral. 

1734
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:49,160
Yeah, OK to all the workers, 
which I love that. 

1735
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,480
Like, I kind of love this 
setting up in the middle of the 

1736
01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:54,000
country and doing the nest. 
It was great. 

1737
01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:03,240
Grandma Cheryl was very well. 
So here's the thing. 

1738
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:07,600
Part of me initially was like, 
because she's fine. 

1739
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,560
We've all. 
Eaten right, She she was trying 

1740
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,840
to get everybody's attention and
nobody was fucking listening to 

1741
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,200
her. 
And it was a lot of shit and she

1742
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,720
kept trying and I'm like, 
listen, like they'll fucking 

1743
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:16,640
figure it out. 
It's food. 

1744
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,880
But but you know what? 
You know why she's trying so 

1745
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,920
hard to tell them? 
Because she knows that these 

1746
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,160
people are going to continually 
go through what is this? 

1747
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:26,960
Where is that? 
What should I, oh, what? 

1748
01:33:27,480 --> 01:33:31,040
How am I supposed to have this? 
Like, she's not stupid. 

1749
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,520
She's not. 
Meanwhile, it's a table with 

1750
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,360
chili, potatoes and whatever 
like you serve yourself. 

1751
01:33:35,440 --> 01:33:39,160
Like, I mean, it's not, it's not
rocket science, but I think that

1752
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:45,600
she knows that she needs to to 
give some info for some reason. 

1753
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,880
She also like tried to say, you 
know, workers go first. 

1754
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,280
Well, no. 
There was no order or rhyme or 

1755
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:56,560
reason to who people went and 
got food, but they all loved it.

1756
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,920
It was cute. 
Like I just yeah, that was a fun

1757
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,760
moment. 
I did notice how one of Robin's 

1758
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,520
kids, and I think it was Aurora,
was itty bitty grabby, grabby, 

1759
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,880
blah blah blah. 
Like while Cheryl was being like

1760
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,200
OK everyone, I need your 
attention everyone OK, stop 

1761
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,200
touching. 
Stop touching. 

1762
01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:15,480
One of Robin's kids was like, 
and it was like, Oh my God, 

1763
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,480
Robin's so concerned about. 
She's always, like, hovering. 

1764
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:20,760
She's a helicopter mom. 
She's so concerned about 

1765
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,120
everything. 
It's like, get your fucking kid 

1766
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,080
in line, Robin. 
Yeah. 

1767
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,680
It's not about her kid being out
of line. 

1768
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,720
It's that Robin's an idiot. 
Anyway, Robin's kid is being 

1769
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:30,600
crazy. 
Cheryl's, like, everyone listen 

1770
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,480
to me. 
And then it was funny how at 

1771
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:35,400
some point in time, she 
literally was like everyone 

1772
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,680
listen. 
And like everyone stopped. 

1773
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,520
It was like, yeah, fucking 
listen. 

1774
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,360
Now. 
Did she say here's chili, here's

1775
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,520
potatoes and here's your plates?
Yes. 

1776
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:50,160
But I I thought of it like how 
if it was me, I would either be 

1777
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,520
yelling like she'd kind of did, 
although, you know, her yells, 

1778
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,600
not really a yell. 
She wasn't really yelling, but 

1779
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,280
I'd be yelling or saying nothing
at all. 

1780
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,720
And how like I as a human was 
like, Yep, I don't know that I 

1781
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:04,480
actually would have yelled. 
I think I would have been like, 

1782
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,120
all right, I'm done. 
And I would have just walked 

1783
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:07,520
away and been like, fucking 
figure it out. 

1784
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,960
And they would have. 
Favorite moment, especially now 

1785
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:15,320
that you mention that Aurora or 
one of the children, Robin's 

1786
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,280
children was maybe being 
chaotic. 

1787
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,080
After grandma screams and 
everybody starts trying to get 

1788
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:27,600
under control, the camera pans 
to Kody and Robin at the very 

1789
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:33,200
left hand side of the screen, 
arm in arm, lovey dovey with 

1790
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,160
each other and I'm like. 
I'm so glad I missed that. 

1791
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,360
I feel like I feel like there 
have been some conversations 

1792
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:44,320
about this right? 
The affection around the other 

1793
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:51,000
wives and I'm just a little 
confused. 

1794
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,920
Interesting, I didn't notice 
that. 

1795
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:57,640
Yeah, so they were snuggling. 
Meanwhile, Robin's children are 

1796
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,400
out ruining the world. 
But whatever. 

1797
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,920
One of my favorite moments of 
this episode was a spotlight 

1798
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:07,280
moment for dear, sweet, young, 
innocent Garrison. 

1799
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,040
They're talking to the kids at 
one point, productions 

1800
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,520
interviewing them about the day.
They've got their spotlights. 

1801
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,240
It's night time, sitting in the 
back of a truck doing whatever. 

1802
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,480
They're out in the country and 
they spotlight to Garrison and 

1803
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,840
he goes. 
Cows are annoying. 

1804
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,200
Oh my God, yes. 
It was so good because they were

1805
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,480
teeing it up with the kids being
like everything was great, 

1806
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:29,720
everything was wonderful and 
Garrison. 

1807
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,480
It's like cows are annoying. 
And I was like, yes. 

1808
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,240
I don't think I realized that 
was Garrison. 

1809
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:40,440
I did note the enthusiasm. 
That was great. 

1810
01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:43,000
That was totally me as a kid. 
Like, cool. 

1811
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,960
They did a couple couch 
interview moments with like the 

1812
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,320
older kids and this one has 
nothing to do with what they 

1813
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,200
were saying, but Mckelty, Did 
you see Mckelty? 

1814
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:58,280
Yeah, yeah, her red bobbish 
thing. 

1815
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:04,080
Bob, but with like a Carl, it's 
almost like a 50s Yeah, dude, 

1816
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,640
but. 
It was like a Lego piece. 

1817
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:08,040
It was weird. 
It was a Lego hair. 

1818
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:09,400
Good call. 
Good call. 

1819
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:11,560
Yeah. 
And like, the brightest of Reds.

1820
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,520
So, like, freshly dyed. 
I'm sure it. 

1821
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:15,240
I'm sure it toned down within 
about 40. 

1822
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,360
It was like burial. 
The Little Mermaid doll. 

1823
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,240
Oh yeah, this was Zach from the 
the Valley. 

1824
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:25,640
Oh, fake hair Lego piece. 
I don't, I think we, well, I 

1825
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:26,920
don't know. 
It'll be curious if we see that 

1826
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,840
hair again. 
I it just was like, that's all I

1827
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,520
noticed. 
It was very, it was very vivid. 

1828
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,760
It was literally like a wig. 
Yeah, it was straight up like a.

1829
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,840
Wig yes. 
Oh, that was crazy. 

1830
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:43,800
Towards the end of the dinner 
they are talking about everybody

1831
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,480
kind of going back in and 
getting settled for the night 

1832
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:49,320
and then they kind of clarify 
the sleeping arrangements. 

1833
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,520
I don't know if it was a 
question they were asked and 

1834
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,760
that's why they were elaborating
or if they just felt the need to

1835
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:59,320
share, but Janelle said she's 
staying at her mom's. 

1836
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,680
With her kids. 
With her kids, Yeah. 

1837
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:06,920
Robin and her kids are staying 
with Kody's mom. 

1838
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,360
Just to get to know her better. 
Yeah, yeah, very important. 

1839
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:15,000
And I kind of it was funny, I 
don't think the camera panned 

1840
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:18,400
out a lot when she said that, 
but I wanted to see the 

1841
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,840
otherwise faces same and we 
didn't get to same. 

1842
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:25,960
So Robin is staying there. 
They don't say where Kody is 

1843
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,400
staying that I recall. 
But if I had to make a guess 

1844
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:33,160
with. 
Meri, I'm sorry. 

1845
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,600
Absolutely. 
Where I was going with that. 

1846
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:36,960
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

1847
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,720
Yeah. 
Christine and Meri get hotel 

1848
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:43,200
rooms, but Christine did note 
that some of her kids stayed at 

1849
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:44,880
the ranch too. 
So some of them stayed with 

1850
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,200
their their siblings and stuff. 
So I thought that was 

1851
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,560
interesting because obviously, 
yeah, there wasn't space and 

1852
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:52,200
room for all of them there and 
it didn't look like they were 

1853
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,960
tenting it or anything, so. 
And I mean, it does make sense 

1854
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:00,600
in a way that Robin would stay 
with Kody's mom to develop 

1855
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:01,800
further, develop their 
relationship. 

1856
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,280
She's the newest wife in the 
family. 

1857
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:07,040
It's just kind of wink, wink, 
nod, nod. 

1858
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:11,400
Irony that of course Robin's 
staying with Kody's mother and 

1859
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,600
Kody is staying where? 
Yeah, pretty sure it is Mom's 

1860
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:16,200
house. 
Yeah. 

1861
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:21,600
You know, I think the reason we 
think about it and talk about it

1862
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:26,080
is because we we do want to know
what Meri and Christine felt 

1863
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:27,280
about it. 
We have no idea. 

1864
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,560
Yeah. 
And maybe they were like, fuck 

1865
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,120
yes, I want the hotel. 
Yeah, right. 

1866
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,200
Totally. 
It could be no big deal. 

1867
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:36,240
Right? 
No big deal. 

1868
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:40,200
And then we cut to the next day 
and in the morning, the family 

1869
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:42,320
is back painting Janelle's 
house. 

1870
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,920
And I, I suspect they don't 
really quite lay it out, but it 

1871
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:48,760
seems to me like this is when 
they're painting, painting, like

1872
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:50,680
they haven't done the trim yet. 
Like it's like they're coming 

1873
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,280
back later in the day to do the 
trim. 

1874
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,560
So they're painting a light 
color on top of a primer. 

1875
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,840
So it's not visually much 
different, but they're doing 

1876
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,200
their painting. 
And then they do an interview 

1877
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:07,200
moment with Janelle where she 
shares a story about Christine's

1878
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,360
siblings. 
Not being able to acknowledge 

1879
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:15,800
that their father is their dad 
in public and how Christine 

1880
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,440
shared that with her and that it
made an impact on her. 

1881
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,160
I thought that was that had some
significance. 

1882
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,720
I'm not sure what I took from 
it, but it was a thing. 

1883
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:33,560
My guess is that Janelle, 
Cheryl, when what have you 

1884
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,840
probably had a lot of questions 
about why they wanted to sign up

1885
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:44,040
for this TV show and why they 
wanted to put their lifestyle 

1886
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:48,160
out in public when that's 
clearly not how it's just goes 

1887
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,120
for a lot of folks, right? 
And so I think they've had some 

1888
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,840
conversations about that and 
that the family has had to 

1889
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,400
answer to those questions. 
And I think Christine gives a 

1890
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:01,800
really good example of how she 
doesn't want her kids to have to

1891
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:07,440
live that way and they would 
rather be honest and transparent

1892
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:11,400
and not she doesn't want to 
teach her kids to lie to. 

1893
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,280
People and that's an underlying 
thing throughout this whole 

1894
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,400
show. 
And I try not to like emphasize 

1895
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,120
it too much, but there is this 
underlying thing of they're 

1896
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,080
lying. 
They are lying. 

1897
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,800
It definitely showed that it 
helped connect the dots for 

1898
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,200
Janelle as to why they were 
doing that. 

1899
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,800
Doing it, yes, but they didn't 
have to be dishonest in their 

1900
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:34,880
everyday life. 
Right. 

1901
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,200
And so that's why I think that 
happened. 

1902
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,520
And another prop for the older 
generation. 

1903
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:40,800
Thank you. 
Thank you, Janelle. 

1904
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,280
They take a break. 
The family takes a break 

1905
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,960
because, you know, maybe this 
was after they painted and they 

1906
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,360
were going to come back and do 
trim. 

1907
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,840
So they had a little moment and 
they go take a break to climb a 

1908
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,440
rock, which is a funny way, I 
think Kody said we're going to 

1909
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:57,480
climb a rock. 
I, I don't remember who says it,

1910
01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:00,360
but we're going to climb a rock.
Well, of course, it turns out 

1911
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:04,880
it's like a. 
Mini mountain. 

1912
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:06,880
A mini mountain, yeah. 
Like it's a significant little 

1913
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,880
structure out in the country. 
Like it's got hillsides, it's 

1914
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,160
got rocks. 
It's whatever. 

1915
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:16,920
It's not just a rock Robin is 
for freaking out while they are 

1916
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,960
there helicopter parent about 
the kids climbing the hills and 

1917
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,640
the ledges being like Aurora. 
Don't do that Brianna. 

1918
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:27,360
Don't do that, my boy. 
Don't do that. 

1919
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,080
She. 
Can't even remember his name at 

1920
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:30,600
this. 
Point No. 

1921
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,080
I was like, I can't remember his
name. 

1922
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:33,200
Dayton. 
Dayton. 

1923
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,600
Well, they call him Dayton, even
though that's not his real name.

1924
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:36,920
I don't even know what. 
His real name? 

1925
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,560
I believe it's David or 
something. 

1926
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,920
It's his daddy's name. 
Why does David sound right? 

1927
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,280
Interesting. 
Okay, yeah, not that I knew 

1928
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:46,000
that. 
I think his name. 

1929
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,280
Might be David Dayton. 
Whatever. 

1930
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:53,840
David Dayton Jessup. 
And after Robin entered Codes 

1931
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:55,840
life then all of a sudden his 
name is Dayton. 

1932
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,200
So yeah. 
She certainly was freaking out 

1933
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,720
it. 
It's funny because all the other

1934
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,960
wives are like rolling their 
eyes like God Robin, chill the 

1935
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,200
fuck out. 
She is screaming. 

1936
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,920
She is screaming as these kids 
are going up this hill. 

1937
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:15,320
And now I get it. 
OK. 

1938
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,880
We were on a road trip, me and 
my kid, and we were in the 

1939
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:25,720
Badlands, and he ran up to like 
this clearing really quickly and

1940
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:31,400
he got very close to an edge 
that was a very significant drop

1941
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,120
off when he was like 6, you 
know? 

1942
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:39,680
And it was like if and he was 
with some momentum, right? 

1943
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,480
So it was like, holy shit, you 
know, so I get. 

1944
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:46,000
That here so she's literally to 
yell to be like stop. 

1945
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:50,520
I get the fear and I think I 
would be more of a Robin than I 

1946
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:55,080
would the other three in this 
scenario, but she is a bit much 

1947
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:58,080
and she. 
She says she's always 

1948
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,400
refereeing. 
She. 

1949
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:04,560
I'm always refereeing. 
She screams Kody. 

1950
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,040
They're on a Cliff. 
Did she really say that? 

1951
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,400
Oh my. 
God, and this is while the other

1952
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:16,040
wives are like standing up for. 
So The thing is they're talking 

1953
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,200
to others in the family about 
their trip in this rock, in this

1954
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,160
experience. 
And look at all this stuff, and 

1955
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,600
all you can hear in the 
background is Robin shrieking at

1956
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,600
Kody and he. 
Playing referee. 

1957
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:33,880
Has tuned her out completely. 
He is on his own journey. 

1958
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,000
Talking to Kody. 
She's just losing her fucking 

1959
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,760
mind, yeah. 
Helicopter mom pretending to 

1960
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,600
play referee, She self-imposed 
referee. 

1961
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,000
Who is she refereeing? 
What problem? 

1962
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,360
Is she solved or balanced or 
stopped? 

1963
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,320
Get the fuck out of here like. 
Literally yes. 

1964
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:55,000
Who are you refereeing? 
Because the other wives are all 

1965
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:58,520
pointing out how, you know, you 
learn life lessons through these

1966
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:04,240
things and that failing or 
getting hurt is a life lesson 

1967
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:06,000
sometimes. 
I didn't. 

1968
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,600
My take away from the scene was 
not that they were like, go up 

1969
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,840
and approach the Cliff and see 
what happens. 

1970
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:12,920
They were like, we're gonna let 
our kids be kids. 

1971
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:17,280
We're gonna let them climb the 
side of this rock, significant 

1972
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,840
rock, a thing with falling off 
and whatever. 

1973
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:24,560
Like it's not that there was not
safety concerns, but you don't 

1974
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,240
need to be yelling and screaming
at your kids the entire time. 

1975
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,320
It was weird. 
Except that then. 

1976
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,200
Yeah, except for cut 2 they show
the adults. 

1977
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,600
Literally. 
And the older kids climbing up 

1978
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,040
to the top and it looks 
dangerous as fuck. 

1979
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,320
No, actually, that's not the 
moment I'm referring to. 

1980
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:41,520
Oh. 
God, OK, never mind. 

1981
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:42,600
Oh my God. 
We're not even there yet. 

1982
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:43,920
We're not even there yet. 
Not even there yet. 

1983
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:51,800
OK, so we are watching Janelle, 
Meri, Robin and Christine. 

1984
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,880
Yeah, be interviewed. 
OK. 

1985
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,840
And they are talking about the 
freedom and the fun they want 

1986
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:59,600
their kids to have and that they
learn for themselves. 

1987
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,120
Yeah. 
Janelle makes a great point, 

1988
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:05,840
which I liked was that, you 
know, you have to allow your 

1989
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:10,080
body to do things to understand 
how to control your body, right?

1990
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,120
So like climbing and almost 
falling and whatever, like your 

1991
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,160
body learns and you get control 
and whatever. 

1992
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,480
Cool, cool. 
And then she goes. 

1993
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:21,080
But we're always watching to 
keep the kids safe. 

1994
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,400
Every single mother was staring 
away from the fucking rock to a 

1995
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:30,840
camera at that point. 
That one single mother had their

1996
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,880
eyes on the 16 children. 
On the children, yeah. 

1997
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:41,520
And their father was playing 
teenager and they're all looking

1998
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,640
at a camera while all the kids 
are behind them up on this 

1999
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,320
fucking massive rock. 
We're always watching. 

2000
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:49,960
We're. 
Always watching, yeah. 

2001
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,080
Listen, you're not close enough 
to help really anyway. 

2002
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:54,960
Like if anything dramatic 
happens. 

2003
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,240
But yeah, I just, it made me 
chuckle. 

2004
01:46:58,440 --> 01:46:59,360
It made me chuckle. 
Amen. 

2005
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,120
And I mean, I grew up in a house
with three boys, so there was a 

2006
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,200
lot of, like, fuck around and 
find out. 

2007
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,680
Yeah, go for it. 
I warned you. 

2008
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,400
I told you, you did it. 
You hurt yourself. 

2009
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,080
Hope you learned a lesson. 
So fair enough. 

2010
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:14,080
I get that. 
I didn't grow up in Wyoming or 

2011
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,800
Utah. 
There weren't necessarily walls 

2012
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:20,040
of rock that we were climbing to
get places. 

2013
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,040
It was more like, well, there 
was bodies of water, so there 

2014
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:24,760
was the drowning aspect. 
But. 

2015
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,680
Right. 
But like, there are just certain

2016
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:31,360
situations that you know can end
in death quicker than others and

2017
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,480
so. 
Yes, yes, and. 

2018
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:37,280
Sometimes you think about those.
Yeah, maybe. 

2019
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:41,320
Maybe, maybe it was just 
editing, maybe it was my own 

2020
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,920
lens. 
It felt like Robin was being 

2021
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:48,600
excessive in her blah blah blah.
And so I'm going, Oh my God, 

2022
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:53,160
chill out, chill out, lady. 
And then they cut to Kody 

2023
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:56,240
climbing up the rocks, and then 
Meri following, and then 

2024
01:47:56,240 --> 01:48:00,600
Christine and whatever port part
they were on, it looked 

2025
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,800
dangerous. 
It was high. 

2026
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,520
It was. 
High and it could have just been

2027
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,400
camera angle. 
Maybe there was some sort of 

2028
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,360
thing to the right that was like
totally easy, breezy, beautiful 

2029
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,320
cover girl. 
And to the left was terrible. 

2030
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:15,720
But it looked like I would be, I
would have to go slow and steady

2031
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,880
and do whatever, just like the 
wives. 

2032
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,320
But it was the thing where like 
if my kid was going up and I'd 

2033
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:22,720
be like, Oh my God, Oh my God, 
Oh my God. 

2034
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:24,480
So like, I don't even know what 
to say. 

2035
01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:27,000
I would be Janelle on the ground
because she was afraid of 

2036
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:28,880
heights, yes. 
She didn't do it. 

2037
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,800
She didn't do it. 
But I do wonder. 

2038
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,840
So like, like picture yourself a
family on the Canyon or 

2039
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,320
whatever, right? 
It's not a Canyon A. 

2040
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,200
Canyon. 
Fly on the side of the rock, 

2041
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,960
yes. 
So there's a level of this 

2042
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:45,240
because a cameraman goes up the 
rock first. 

2043
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,840
Yeah, cameras up there. 
So do you think there's, like, a

2044
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:50,240
jokey negotiation happening 
here? 

2045
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:53,400
Like, right, you fucking 
assholes, if I climb up there, 

2046
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,360
you're coming up, you know, 
like, that's the cameraman. 

2047
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,400
It's like, listen, yeah, I'll do
it. 

2048
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,520
I'll do it. 
But he's not climbing up there 

2049
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,800
first. 
If the rest of them don't, you 

2050
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,320
know, why would he do that? 
Yeah, I think Kody would have 

2051
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,120
been, you know, chin for chin, 
tit for tit. 

2052
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:09,720
Yeah, I'm up there with you or 
whatever. 

2053
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,600
But the other wives, yeah, I'm. 
I'm not surprised, Meri. 

2054
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,080
I'm not surprised about Meri. 
I think Meri would be like, 

2055
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:16,240
yeah, I'll climb some fucking 
rocks. 

2056
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:20,160
Christine needed some more 
verbal whatnot from Kody. 

2057
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:21,720
I don't know that it was 
helpful. 

2058
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,000
It felt a little gross to me, 
but whatever. 

2059
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:26,240
But they all had a little 
adventure. 

2060
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:28,320
That was great. 
That was wonderful. 

2061
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:33,280
After that, we returned to 
Janelle's house for the reveal. 

2062
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:38,080
The big reveal, the big Revil 
revolt, the revolt of her newly 

2063
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:42,000
painted house. 
And to me it made a big 

2064
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,480
difference. 
Holy shit, huge transformation. 

2065
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:48,280
And it looked kind of cute. 
Yeah, that's why I'm saying it. 

2066
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:52,160
I think it looked way older and 
trashier than it was. 

2067
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:56,040
Yeah, just because of the aging 
of the wood without anything on 

2068
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,200
it, because that fresh white 
paint. 

2069
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,920
Holy shit. 
I just wish they had thrown in a

2070
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,720
few shrubs and a little 
landscaping. 

2071
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,920
Right, like her HGTV Touch, 
where it was like the reveal 

2072
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:09,160
should have had some new 
landscape. 

2073
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:12,880
Yes, Yeah. 
We could have gone a little step

2074
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:14,240
further, but you know, we're 
like. 

2075
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,120
We're lucky we did this. 
Yeah, we're lucky. 

2076
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:19,120
We had these thirty people to 
paint a house and we barely got 

2077
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:21,440
it done like. 
But that was when they started 

2078
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:26,440
to get a lot more like you guys 
stop it and just paint like 

2079
01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:29,240
there wasn't any of the fucking 
around the 1st. 

2080
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:32,200
There was definitely the slope 
of like, we love it, we're 

2081
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:33,960
having so much fun. 
And then by the end it was like 

2082
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:36,800
literally just fucking. 
The paintbrush and get over 

2083
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,360
here. 
The wood is just soaking up all 

2084
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:44,520
the paint. 
Just paint Truly, obviously, 

2085
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:47,840
Truly was a baby at the time, so
we're just paint truly. 

2086
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:51,960
So she was being hauled around 
in cardboard boxes and life is 

2087
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,200
good. 
But it was a big difference. 

2088
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:55,760
It looked great. 
It's very cute. 

2089
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,960
They did a big old group hug 
with everybody. 

2090
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,560
It was cute. 
I was like, yeah, you're a 

2091
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,960
family. 
We're going to backtrack for a 

2092
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,200
second. 
The reveal is approaching. 

2093
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:12,840
Janelle and Cheryl are walking 
down the trail. 

2094
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:15,520
We're going to revisit their 
outfits. 

2095
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:23,920
Yes. 
So today we have Janelle in a 

2096
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,120
purple. 
Purple. 

2097
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:33,920
Leafy patterned number. 
It was nice. 

2098
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,320
It was actually like. 
I was gonna say not flowy, but 

2099
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,040
the fabric was flowy. 
Yes, it. 

2100
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,920
Was like silky Lucy. 
Yes. 

2101
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,080
But not loose like. 
She was fine, ish. 

2102
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,520
Like someone could probably wear
that today and not even be like,

2103
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,640
what are you wearing? 
Like it was fine, Ish. 

2104
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:55,200
Yeah, now my friend Cheryl. 
Yeah, Cheryl was wearing a 

2105
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,760
wallpaper blouse. 
I thought of wallpaper from a 

2106
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,240
church. 
Straight up, it was wallpaper. 

2107
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:03,960
It was wallpaper. 
And it it like it had the lines 

2108
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,160
in it with like the borders like
it's little. 

2109
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,360
Like, you got to figure it out. 
Like you got to line it up 

2110
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:11,560
yourself. 
You got to line up Cheryl's 

2111
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:14,200
blouse and when she takes it 
off, she's got to use like 

2112
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:15,680
wallpaper remover. 
Oh my God, Can you imagine? 

2113
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:20,920
Wallpaper is the devil. 
Yeah, yeah, it is the devil. 

2114
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,040
Her blouse was a wallpaper. 
It totally was. 

2115
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:28,000
We are letting wallpaper enter 
our lives in small amounts 

2116
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,680
nowadays, but we will not do 
full rooms ever again. 

2117
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:31,720
Maybe. 
Hopefully. 

2118
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,160
Because it's not Cheryl's blouse
as a wallpaper. 

2119
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:35,880
That was some church basement 
madness. 

2120
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:40,440
I think that was a lovely 
gesture for them to do as a 

2121
01:52:40,440 --> 01:52:45,000
family. 
I think it's really cute to 

2122
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:49,200
teach your kids to help your 
family like that. 

2123
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:54,160
And then for your kids to be 
there in that moment and see the

2124
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:59,320
appreciation and you know, all 
of that, like it, it shows that 

2125
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,160
doing things like that for other
people is worth it. 

2126
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:02,480
And so I thought it was a great 
exam. 

2127
01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:06,160
I, I, I guess parenting wise, 
short of some of the digs we've 

2128
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,960
given them about little stuff 
here and there, like bang up 

2129
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:13,480
trip for your kids, like super, 
super great. 

2130
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:18,600
Especially for Mcalty and 
Janelle says that the house 

2131
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,760
shines like it has a Halo around
it, which is beautiful language 

2132
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:26,640
for a religious person like that
meant something to her for sure.

2133
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:30,240
And it actually did the time of 
day that they were in when you 

2134
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:34,600
looked behind them, the sun was 
literally glowing on the roof 

2135
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:36,760
like it was. 
And they didn't redo the 

2136
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,800
shingles folks. 
So the roof was still the roof, 

2137
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:42,760
but it was there was there was a
sunlight on that roof. 

2138
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,440
And then she teared up and got 
emotional and it was really just

2139
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:50,280
super cute. 
Super cute and for our favorite 

2140
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,400
part of the show, for everyone's
favorite part of the show, 

2141
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:56,680
Mustard seed and shit stain. 
I'm going to go ahead and start 

2142
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:58,480
with my mustard seed. 
I think that's great. 

2143
01:53:58,480 --> 01:54:03,920
Because God told me to. 
My mustard seed this week goes 

2144
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:11,000
to Janeo because I liked the way
that she talked about her 

2145
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,880
relationship with Cheryl and 
their their growth throughout 

2146
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,640
the years and her appreciation 
of the home. 

2147
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:18,800
She just seemed very genuine to 
me. 

2148
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:22,000
She seemed, she seems like the 
kind of person where if you were

2149
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,960
to go sit down with her and talk
to her about anything, she would

2150
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,880
tell you what she really thinks.
There wasn't any bullshit. 

2151
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:30,560
There wasn't any ridiculousness.
So I'm going to give my mustard 

2152
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:34,160
seed to Janelle. 
I love that and I think that's 

2153
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,560
wonderful. 
Which leaves me the perfect 

2154
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:40,360
opening to give my mustard seed 
to Cheryl. 

2155
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:45,880
And for like equal but slightly 
different reasons, but all the 

2156
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:47,960
same. 
Like you can tell that these are

2157
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:55,080
mothers, grandmothers that, you 
know, I think maybe what's kind 

2158
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,080
of funny, and I don't know if 
it's just because of the 

2159
01:54:57,080 --> 01:55:01,640
distance with where they live or
not, but they don't seem hovery.

2160
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:05,120
They don't seem intrusive. 
They don't, they just seem like,

2161
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:07,800
you know, that kind of family 
that when you're together, 

2162
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,080
you're together and everything 
is great and wonderful. 

2163
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,880
And when you're apart, you try 
to keep in touch as much as you 

2164
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:17,520
can, but like, they're still 
involved in each other's lives, 

2165
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,920
you know? 
And I think that that just comes

2166
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:24,160
across on so many levels. 
And so they both deserve it. 

2167
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:26,080
And thank God there's two of us 
to give it to them. 

2168
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:27,560
Yes. 
Oh my goodness. 

2169
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,840
They both deserve mustard seeds.
Shit stain. 

2170
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:32,960
Oh God, do you want to take the 
shit stain? 

2171
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,360
I mean, I'm happy to. 
If you have one ready. 

2172
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:43,000
It's Kody Brown. 
Yes, OK, OK, OK. 

2173
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:46,720
But it's Coney Brown for 
worrying more about teaching a 

2174
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:50,960
horse a lesson than his child 
that he had zero clue of what 

2175
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:54,240
the potential injuries could be.
Yeah, even though it's Mckelty. 

2176
01:55:56,040 --> 01:56:00,200
Ike yes. 
OK, yes, clearly one of us is a 

2177
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:03,680
parent and one of us is not. 
Yeah, even the kids you don't 

2178
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:07,000
like, you still have to. 
You're obligated to give. 

2179
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:08,280
A. 
You have to at least pretend to 

2180
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:12,160
worry. 
Yeah, idiot. 

2181
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:13,920
Not you, Kody. 
Sorry. 

2182
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:15,400
Me. 
I got both ways. 

2183
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:19,080
No, no, I mean Kody. 
Oh my God, I love that. 

2184
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:21,160
Yeah, the shit stain. 
It's funny that you're. 

2185
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:25,640
I mean, I think my shit stain is
Mckelty for literally getting on

2186
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,600
that horse and doing that shit. 
Now I know she's a kid, but like

2187
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:32,080
this is not the first time I'm 
excuse me, this is the first 

2188
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:33,800
time. 
This is not the last time I will

2189
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:35,400
be giving my shit stain to 
Mckelty. 

2190
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,400
I don't need to go into any 
details. 

2191
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,160
Mckelty, you know why you earned
this shit stain. 

2192
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,280
Our keep sweet moment this week 
comes to us from a comment left 

2193
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,200
on Spotify for one of our 
episodes. 

2194
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:52,040
Actually season 1 episode 6. 
A fourth wife to be and this is 

2195
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:56,120
from Holly R 2012. 
Now, Holly R 2012. 

2196
01:56:56,240 --> 01:57:00,840
Thank you for leaving us this 
precious Pearl Ali, I just need 

2197
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:05,680
you to know that a titty coat is
called a bolero. 

2198
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:10,480
She says that she has watched 
Oh, excuse me for gender ring 

2199
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:15,280
Holly R 2012. 
They say that they've watched 

2200
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:19,560
every episode of Say Yes to the 
Dress and that a titty coat is a

2201
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:22,600
bolero now. 
I'd never heard of a bolero. 

2202
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:24,720
I have. 
That's the word I was looking 

2203
01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,360
for now. 
While you were saying titty yes,

2204
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:29,240
titty no. 
Literally, because I knew that 

2205
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:32,200
there's a phrase for it. 
Like I knew that there's a it's 

2206
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,000
like this. 
It's like the shawl that just 

2207
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,080
covers her boobs, you know, like
that's all. 

2208
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,600
And I'm giving them like a solid
squeeze right now. 

2209
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:41,240
But I knew that there was a word
for it. 

2210
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:49,200
The fact that Holly R 2012 could
come up with the the the actual 

2211
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,400
word from the descriptor titty 
coat. 

2212
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:59,520
I think we really like big round
of applause because we're 

2213
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:01,760
speaking the same language 
apparently. 

2214
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:05,560
You Google titty coat and it's 
like noun bolero. 

2215
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,240
Thanks Holly R2000. 
Oh my God, you mean we could 

2216
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:10,720
have googled it the whole time? 
No, I'm not saying that I 

2217
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didn't. 
Oh. 

2218
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,640
God OK I thought you literally 
meant like you. 

2219
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Just did. 
You're like. 

2220
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:18,160
Obviously that's amazing. 
It shows Holly smarts. 

2221
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:19,520
So thank you. 
We appreciate it. 

2222
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:21,200
It definitely shows Holly 
smarts. 

2223
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:24,760
Thank you, Holly, because this 
is what we need more of is when 

2224
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,040
we are saying things like the 
titty coat. 

2225
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,040
It would be so great to hear 
that. 

2226
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:30,840
It's called a bolero. 
Thank you. 

2227
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,920
Thank you for the comment. 
I do love that much appreciate 

2228
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:39,000
it and again guys like tips 
tricks, anything in the comments

2229
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,680
like we will clearly we need 
them yes. 

2230
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:46,280
So we appreciate the direction. 
We appreciate the positive 

2231
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:50,280
feedback and we would appreciate
if you subscribe to us on 

2232
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,560
YouTube. 
We have a YouTube channel and we

2233
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:55,040
would love if you subscribe 
there because we do upload 

2234
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,080
shorts and funny little clips 
there and you will give a blast 

2235
01:58:58,120 --> 01:58:59,400
out of seeing them and hearing 
them. 

2236
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,120
Ali, is there anything that you 
want to let our listeners know 

2237
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:06,920
before we wrap up for today? 
I think I would just like you 

2238
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:14,320
all to know that while this is 
very challenging work, we do it 

2239
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,440
for you. 
Someone's got to do it. 

2240
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:19,360
Yeah, I mean, but do they, you 
know? 

2241
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:23,240
No one's got to do it. 
And yet here we are. 

2242
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:26,360
When it comes to this podcast, 
no one's got to do it. 

2243
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:29,200
So thanks so much. 
Oh. 

2244
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:31,760
Geez. 
Yes, Amen. 

2245
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:32,800
All right. 
Sounds good. 

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01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,840
We'll see you when we do our 
next recap, which is going to be

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01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,160
Season 2, Episode 3, coming to 
you in a week from when you're 

2248
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:42,880
listening to this now. 
Oh my gosh, Amen. 

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01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:45,440
God bless. 
Stay safe ladies and gents. 

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Bye bye.
