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What does the nanny do? 
 
OK, so we're done. 

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Goodbye. 
 
You. 

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Shut it off. 
 
Do not twist my words. 

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Do not make me a victim, 
 
sweetie. 

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Just look at the mountain. 
 
That's what you. 

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Saw that day just the knife in 

the kidneys over all these years

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and the sacrifices that I made 

to love you. 

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It's the episode you've all been

 waiting for. 

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A wife decides season 6 Episode 
 8 A wife decides. 

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I wonder if this decision is 
 
about Meri's baby decision. 

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We're just going to experience 

it together with you, our loving

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listeners. 
 
Six seasons and eight episodes 

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now. 
 
It has felt like years and years

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and years. 
 
And the episode opens with an 

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overview of everyone being at 
 
the Brown Own family cul-de-sac 

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and what it all means now that 

everyone has moved in next to 

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each other. 
 
They're a family again, honey. 

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A family. 
 
A real family. 

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Everyone's just living their 
 
best lives. 

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We see a little truly jumping on

 a trampoline in an adorable 

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hot pink Tutu. 
 
Get up. 

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It was quite striking. 
 
We see Mckelty walking by with a

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mannequin wearing a newspaper 
 
skirt. 

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Along the lines of the 
 
cellophane dress? 

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Yes. 
 
From previous season or episodes

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where it's all tufted. 
 
I don't know how to even 

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describe it. 
 
Yeah, it is it Tufted. 

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Layered tufted. 
 
Yeah, rolled up newspaper clumps

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making a skirt. 
 
Yeah, she's Co opting from the 

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designer that she met. 
 
Well, she was inspired, honey. 

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She's inspired. 
 
Not stealing designs. 

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Whatsoever, she's a creative and

 she was inspired. 

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Sure, sure. 
 
The opening is basically just a 

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giant nothing burger. 
 
Just clips here and there of 

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everybody. 
 
And Kody has a voiceover where 

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he tells us that they're all 
 
very different and independent. 

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The wives, you know, everyone's 
 living their lives, doing their

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things. 
 
And how do we meld our family 

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back together now that we're at 
 the Brown family cul-de-sac? 

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And, you know, that's what's 
 
been keeping me up at night 

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recently. 
 
I've been going, how are the 

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Browns going to do this? 
 
How are they going to get their 

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magic back? 
 
How are they going to meld back 

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into their routines? 
 
They couldn't meld when they 

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were that far apart. 
 
Now they're trying to meld that 

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they're this close together. 
 
Always an issue here with the 

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melding of the. 
 
Family, the melding. 

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So then to start the episode, 
 
we're basically going to get an 

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update from each of the wives 
 
kind of on what's happening, 

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what's the deal, what's the 
 
latest, what's the Goss, what's 

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the news? 
 
We start with Meri and she tells

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us about how Leon is always 
 
hanging out with the other teens

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or hanging out in Meri's loft 
 
upstairs. 

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Oh, the open loft. 
 
Meri just loves hearing all of 

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the noise again, of all of the 

kids being back together and we 

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hear some annoying but cute 
 
laughter, giggling of the girls 

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hanging out. 
 
I think they're playing a video.

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Game or something. 
 
There's a clip of Leon on the 

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couch during Meri's little 
 
opening segment, where Leon 

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volunteers that waiting an extra

 week to move into the home 

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really wasn't such a big Dell 
 
00. 

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And I noticed that Leon is still

 wearing the Unpure Jean vest 

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and slutty tank top. 
 
And I thought, how very dare 

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you. 
 
Are you really trying to 

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advertise that you still have 
 
your purity or not? 

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I think it's funny that Leon has

 to say that. 

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Oh well, moving in one week 
 
later than everyone else sucked,

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but I guess it didn't turn out 

so bad, right? 

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And I'm just reminded that it 
 
was only a week. 

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Difference. 
 
They postponed Christmas till 

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January 2nd for little Leon. 
 
Leon made such a big drama deal 

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about not being in their house 

at the same time as everyone 

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else that it felt like a month's

 difference. 

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Felt like a stunning reaction. 

Yeah, really. 

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We're reminded again that it was

 only one week. 

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OK? 
 
One week. 

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And basically because of the 
 
holiday and your mother's own 

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wrongdoings. 
 
Wrongdoings, Yes. 

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Meri's failures as a mother, 
 
well, it sounds like Leon has 

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recovered, and we're all very 
 
thankful for that. 

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If anything we're thankful for 

on this podcast, it's Leon being

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happy and feeling good. 
 
Thank you baby Jesus. 

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The most important thing, our 
 
next wife is Christine. 

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She talks about having all the 

kids around and how it's loud 

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and all of that. 
 
She does enjoy it and also the 

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children have started what she 

is affectionately calling kids 

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town in the backyard and they 
 
cut to the backyard for a visual

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and my my my. 
 
It was quite the sight to see a.

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Little harkening back to their 

roots here with Kids Town, this 

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is bringing up something that 
 
the older kids used to do back 

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at the Lehigh home. 
 
They used to do Kids Town and 

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build stuff out in the little 
 
woods, I guess that was next to 

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it. 
 
And we see, yeah, makeshift 

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tents in the dusty ass backyard.

 

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And we see that they have used 
pieces of lattice from a deck, 


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they have used sheets, they have
used PVC pipe, they have used 
 

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cardboards. 
And it's very Lord of the Flies 

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 esque. 
That's a good reference, yes. 
 

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Christine says that the only 
downside of Kids Town is that it

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 is atrocious. 
It is indeed atrocious. 
 

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It's a disaster. 
It's absolutely atrocious. 
 

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The backyard is a disaster. 
It totally is. 
 

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While they're showing the 
backyard as well. 
 

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I personally loved that they had
music playing over that was like

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 Western Old Town, you know, 
like oh it's there's going to be

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some 
 city slicker coming up 
and pulling out his gun because 

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of 
 all the dust blowing 
everywhere and it literally 

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looks like a 
 shantytown. 
What the fuck is going on here? 

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Also one of the little girls has

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a piece of cardboard and is 
 
waving it at the ground and like

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wafting dust up. 
 
Just a wafting dust into the air

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for no reason. 
 
What's so Well, well, West in 

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that backyard? 
 
It is. 

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It really is. 
 
We go to the kids on the couch 

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and Isabel is talking about how 
 some of the moms don't want to 

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have any more kids and she 
 
starts listing off all of the 

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moms that don't want any more 
 
kids and talking about how they 

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need more kids though. 
 
Yes, with all the moms, they 

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need more kids they need. 
 
More kids for their kids town. 

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It just goes to show the 
 
innocence of children. 

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They just think, oh, more 
 
playmates, so much fun. 

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More kids for kids town for kids

 town. 

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Oh boy. 
 
Janelle is next on our little 

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tour of how the wives are doing 
 here at the Brown family 

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cul-de-sac. 
 
And we get this shot of Janelle 

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in the family room. 
 
No one is around. 

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And at first she's yelling for 

Maddie. 

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And I was like, oh, we're going 
 to get Maddie. 

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We haven't seen Maddie in a 
 
second. 

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And then it was Hunter Gabriel 

Logan. 

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She's just saying children's 
 
names, yelling them towards 

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upstairs. 
 
And then we have her talking to 

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the camera and she says, you 
 
know, this house is great, but 

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the way that the walls are set 

up that it can be hard to hear 

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or that maybe they choose not to

 hear. 

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The kids just disappear in the 

house. 

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They choose not to hear me. 
 
Right. 

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It was fun to see because it 
 
reminded me of times where I 

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maybe have not heard my mother 

when I was a kid. 

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And I was like, oh, I didn't 
 
hear, oh, isn't that convenient?

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I still have selective hearing 

as an adult. 

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I swear, I I don't know what it 
 is, we all do it, but there's 

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something about your own 
 
mother's voice. 

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Oh. 
 
That you're especially attuned 

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to tuning out. 
 
Attuned to tuning out. 

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I think we all have that 
 
affliction. 

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When we finally make it to 
 
Robyn's house, she tells us that

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they're going to be burning 
 
Kody's duffel bag. 

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So this would be the duffel bag 
 that he would pack and bring 

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from house to house when they 
 
were in their rentals. 

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And of course, everyone is 
 
disturbed by this duffel bag, 

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including Robyn. 
 
She's so disturbed that she can 

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barely string a sentence 
 
together. 

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She's so disturbed. 
 
Well it's a weird because is she

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opening up a box that has the 
 
fire pit in it? 

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Oh, I didn't know and. 
 
She goes, this is a fire pit and

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literally says this is a fire 
 
pit and we're going to burn 

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Kody's duffel bag. 
 
Oh. 

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God, when she was describing the

 practice of burning the duffel

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bag was when I was most 
 
impressed by her because she 

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said something along the lines 

of a visual stimulation of a 

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memory. 
 
And when he would bring the bag 

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back and forth to the houses and

 it served its purpose, but 

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it's no longer needed. 
 
And I was a bit stimulated 

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myself when she said that it was

 going to be a visual 

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stimulation of a memory. 
 
I thought, wow, stimulation, 

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It's quite a word. 
 
I think she meant simulation, 

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but I don't even think that's 
 
correct. 

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So I don't know what she. 
 
Bizarre word in what? 

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She was really saying they just 
 let her keep going. 

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Like keep talking, girl, we're 

going to keep it in. 

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We're not going to edit that 
 
out. 

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We're keeping it in. 
 
We're going to highlight that. 

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No, and she's talking about 
 
yeah, how he would show up with 

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the bag so they would see this 

ugly ass bag when he showed his 

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mug on their doorsteps and then 
 when he would leave there was 

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an empty spot where the bag 
should 
 be. 

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So symbolic. 
 
Really, really it's. 

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Almost poetic, it's stimulating.

 

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Their use of words, it just 
never ceases to amaze me. 
 

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And this is just another 
ridiculous thing to do. 
 

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Another weird ass way to get the
family together. 
 

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We have to Berry hatchets in the
yard. 
 

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Berry coolers, bury dead bodies,
burn bags. 
 

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Yeah. 
What are they doing? 
 

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With this season, it feels to me
like there are quite a few 
 

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things happening that are 
production fueled, where a story

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 producer or whatever meets 
with the family beforehand and 

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they 
 have to have something 
happen for the show. 
 

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So you brainstorm and you come 
up with ideas of what you can 
 

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do. 
Unfortunately, I don't think 
 

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they quite took the exercises 
far enough because not having 
 

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the, for example, family mission
statement ready when they were 


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burying a time capsule doesn't 
make any sense. 
 

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But they do have to have content
for the episodes. 
 

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When we were looking at Season 
6, we were going, wow, there's 


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so many episodes this season. 
So I think they could have 
 

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dialed back the useless 
exercises and really stuck to 
 

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things that mattered or made 
sense. 
 

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But I think throughout this 
season we're going to notice 
 

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more and more things happening, 
activities where it just feels 


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almost like filler and stuff to 
do, so they have things to film.

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It's forced moments to get the 

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family together in one spot, 
 
especially when you do have this

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many kids that are probably part

 of activities and sports. 

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And even when they, you know, 
 
get to the part here where 

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they're going to burn the bag, 

it's kind of sparse. 

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You can tell not all 17 kids are

 there. 

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They're like single line around 
 it and it's right, there's 

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plenty of spaces between them. 

The kids are like, what the fuck

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are we doing? 
 
Like, it's bizarre. 

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And I get it. 
 
I get that they're trying to 

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make moments for the show two in

 a row like this, the time 

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capsule burying a cooler that 
 
they couldn't think of anything 

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better to bury than our red 
 
Igloo cooler. 

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And now they're going to burn a 
 bag. 

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I get what they're doing but 
 
it's very forced and awkward. 

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The wives give us some more of 

their thoughts on the duffel 

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bag, including Christine who 
 
says that the bag was like Kody 

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was coming over for a sleepover 
 when he would show up with that

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bag just coming over for the 
 
night, popping in for a 

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sleepover. 
 
Your sexy husband here here for 

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a sleepover, love you Christine.

 

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My favorite response to the bag 
was of course Janelle who says I

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 never really thought much 
about the bag and I love it. 
 

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I was lol in 'cause I was like 
thank you. 
 

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Thank you, Janelle for being you
and bringing us this special 
 

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moment. 
One normal person that's not 
 

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bothered by this bag that 
carries these horrible visual 
 

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stimulations. 
Not the stimulation. 
 

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Oh God, oh Lord my God. 
Kody says to Janelle it's a 
 

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symbol of her independence. 
Yes, because she got to get rid 

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 of him. 
When he would pick up that bag, 

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 she'd go. 
Thank God he's he's packing up 


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the bag. 
Get the fuck out. 
 

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And we immediately cut to Kody 
putting the duffel bag in a fire

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 pit in the backyard. 
This must be the one that Robyn 

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 was unboxing if that's truly 
what happened. 
 

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I love how you got. 
That it was weird. 
 

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I did not even notice at all. 
I thought she was just, you 
 

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know, sorting through her horde.
I had no idea what was going. 
 

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On sometimes it just feels like 
they give her very fed lines, 
 

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like she just doesn't know what 
to say or do. 
 

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And I've caught a couple of 
instances where they're trying 


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to get her to say more. 
They're feeding her lines and 
 

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it. 
She had to have been unboxing it

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 and putting it together like 
the metal fire pit itself 

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because 
 she said this is a 
fire pit. 

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And I do apologize because we 
 
keep saying bag in our Minnesota

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accent. 
 
It's a bag. 

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And we make fun of Big Dull and 
 I'm sure this episode we're 

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going to get made fun of her 
 
bag. 

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Yeah. 
 
Bag, you got to carry your big 

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dull and a big bag. 
 
Literally when I lived in 

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California, people would be 
 
like, say it again and I'm like 

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bag. 
 
And they're like, no, it's bag. 

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And I'm like bag and like bag. 

And I'm like, what? 

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And they're like bagel. 
 
I'm like bagel a bagel. 

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It's a bagel. 
 
I don't understand this. 

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I don't hear it being different 
 but okay. 

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I know. 
 
I just know people are gonna 

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catch it from us, so I have to 

find it out because we know it's

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there. 
 
We don't hear it, but we know 

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it's there. 
 
OK, so apologies for saying bag 

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on repeat for like 10 minutes. 

Here I'm trying to say duffel 

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before it so that it kind of 
 
eases the pain of the bag. 

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Gosh, you're so smart. 
 
It's a fire pit. 

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Fire pit. 
 
Well, Kody is putting this 

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duffel bag in a fire pit in the 
 backyard. 

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We get some more precious pearls

 from the wives, including 

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Christine. 
 
Well, they're kind of going back

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and forth between the couch and 
 the setup of this thing. 

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So that's going to happen a lot 
 in this episode where we're 

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going to reference voice overs 

and couch moments. 

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And just like usual, there's a 

lot of back and forths and 

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Christine is giving Kody a bit 

of a hard time. 

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We'll get to get Josh in him, a 
 little bit about how there are 

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other ways to destroy this 
 
duffel bag other than burning 

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it. 
 
And she has a little humorous 

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list of things to do. 
 
I don't really recall any of 

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them other than burning the bag 
 and then collecting the ashes. 

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My favorite one is we could 
 
caught it up. 

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Oh yeah, caught it up. 
 
We could caught it up into a. 

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Million little pieces, but if 
 
they decide to burn it, they 

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could collect the ashes, which 

would be so symbolic and lovely,

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I guess for something and 
 
somewhere. 

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But ultimately, burning the 
 
duffel bag is really a 

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celebration, a victory of being 
 in the homes, according to 

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Kody. 
Right before they start this 
 

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massive fire that could cause 
catastrophic events to happen. 


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Oh wow. 
A fire engine goes wailing by. 


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They joke that this was a setup.
Very weird that a fire truck 
 

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goes by. 
Yeah, it was a little ironic, 
 

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yeah. 
Especially uncontrollably. 
 

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Right. 
Burning a random odd object 
 

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outside of your brand new homes.
Great, great idea there. 
 

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Was some reference to the, like,
black smoke? 
 

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Like, is that a problem? 
And it's like, yeah, you should 

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 breathe it in. 
You should totally breathe it 
 

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in. 
Yeah, Kody's like, I don't know 

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 about this black smoke. 
Like, well, you are burning 
 

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plastic in front of your brand 
new homes in a fire pit that 
 

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Robyn assembled, which seems 
awfully dangerous this. 
 

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Is it this? 
Is it? 
 

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The fire hazard isn't even the 
bag on fire, it's the fire pit 


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that it's in. 
Just structurally the 
 

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stimulation of it all. 
After TLC pays some bills with a

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 commercial break, we return to
Robyn's house and I'm wondering,

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 oh, what is Robyn assembling 
now? 
 

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Turns out I was wrong. 
Kody is there on his lonesome. 


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Maybe Robyn is at the store 
spending some money. 
 

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Kody's hanging out at Robyn's 
though, yeah. 
 

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Wow. 
I wonder if there's a ticker 
 

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board for that because yeah, 
we're going to see that again, 


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obviously. 
Or should we? 
 

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It would be perfect timing to 
start it because we are at the 


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cul-de-sac. 
This is kind of like the first. 

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Yeah. 

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Episode that we're doing outside

 of Christmas after they've 

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moved in. 
 
I think we should start a 

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ticker. 
 
Oh honey, I don't have the 

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strength, nor the stamina nor 
 
the concern or the care. 

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But if you want to, you know, 
 
maybe it will fulfill some of 

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your ADHD needs. 
 
It would the visual stimulation 

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of it alone. 
 
Every time that they get there I

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will just get titillated, 
 
stimulated, add another check. 

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Put it in the bag. 
 
Put it in the bag. 

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Yeah, Kody's alone at Robyn's 
 
house, and he lets us know that 

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he's meeting with the 
 
manufacturers of my sister 

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wife's closet jewelry with a 
 
goal of designing jewelry pieces

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for each one of his wives for 
 
Mother's Day. 

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If you were to hear that story, 
 you might think, wow, what a 

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loving husband and what a great 
 idea. 

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But we know the truth, he only 

loves Prabin and it is not a 

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good idea. 
 
And it will be proven that it is

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not a good idea. 
 
But we won't learn that in this 

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episode, children. 
 
All the more reason to subscribe

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and to follow so that you can 
 
hear the end of this riveting 

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tale of Kody's jewelry. 
 
I don't even know. 

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Failure, stimulation, failure. 

What a failure. 

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We meet Mike and Gina again, the

 new manufacturers that are 

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ex-husband and wife. 
 
I thought that's what the thing 

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was. 
 
And neither one of their last 

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names are actually the name 
 
Marino or whatever. 

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Yeah, it's Gina and Michael 
 
Wilson, which I was like Wilson.

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I thought it was Moreno 
 
Enterprises. 

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00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,440
You're right. 
 
So maybe it's named after their 

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first born Moreno. 
 
Baby name Moreno. 

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00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,920
Oh, moreno's so cute. 
 
He has them there because he 

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wants their input. 
 
Their input is going to allow 

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him to get his foot out of his 

mouth. 

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00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,800
Oh yeah. 
 
So his shitty ideas coupled with

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their not so shitty ideas will 

allow him to not look like such 

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an idiot. 
 
Right. 

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And these Mother's Day gifts 
 
that are truly from the heart. 

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00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,320
And who is he going to start 
 
with? 

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But of course, his number one, 

yeah. 

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Robyn. 
 
He claims he was inspired by 

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Robyn when he starts with her. 

And I thought, oh, I wonder if 

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we're going to hear about the 
 
other wives inspiring him. 

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00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,000
I doubt it. 
 
But you never know, he could 

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00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,480
prove us wrong. 
 
He does say that she is a bird 

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00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:50,480
and ILOLOL, because I was 
 
thinking, I do feel as if you 

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00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,400
have said that she looks like a 
 bird. 

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00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,560
We have referenced that she has 
 bird like features, that 

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sometimes she looks like a bird 
 with a wig on and he's saying 

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she is a bird. 
 
But also her name is Robyn. 

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Oh, and it is, oh, the blue 
 
eggs, I didn't even connect the 

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dots. 
 
So it's, oh, I'm such an idiot. 

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00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,680
I'm as dumb as Kody. 
 
But Kody is convinced that Robyn

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was like a phoenix rising out of

 the ashes after her divorce. 

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You know, a successful, 
 
triumphant story. 

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So obviously that's why she's 
 
like a bird. 

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00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,600
Duh. 
 
Not that her name's Robyn or 

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that she lays blue eggs. 
 
Or that she looks like she has a

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beak from the side and that. 
 
She she walks with her head, 

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going in and out and in and out.

 

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00:21:35,084 --> 00:21:37,268
Oh, many a bird comparison for 
our Robyn Brown. 
 

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And who's next on the list, 
darling? 
 

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#2 be but Meri. 
Oh, Meri. 
 

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And her quality that he is 
drawing inspiration from is her 

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 extreme loyalty and she just 
needs some sort of symbol that 


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will demonstrate her extreme 
loyalty, perhaps like that of a 

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 dog. 
Maybe another animal like a dog.

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Gina's like, no, no woman wants 

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00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,600
to be compared to a dog, Kody. 

See, it's already paying off. 

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His stupid ideas are being 
 
corrected by Moreno Enterprise 

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leadership. 
 
His paw just got pulled out of 

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his mouth by Gina, thank 
 
goodness. 

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00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,600
Put that dog in the corner, 
 
Kody. 

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Bury that dog in the backyard. 

Where we have buried many a dog,

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unfortunately in this family, 
 
and they decide that a better 

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00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:43,040
symbol than a loyal Labrador 
 
would be a crown with a heart on

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00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,520
it. 
 
And not just any crown with a 

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00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,440
heart attached to the bottom. 
 
Yeah, I think the crown is 

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sitting on the heart and the way

 you said that made it sound 

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like the crown had a heart on, 
which 
 I thought was great. 

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And I hope I get to keep it in 

yes. 

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00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,000
Oh, the stimulation, the visual 
 stimulation I'm trying to lay 

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out for you all here. 
 
Moreno Enterprises gave the 

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00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,840
thumb up with that crown of the 
 heart on, so that's good. 

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00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,320
That's great. 
 
We are going to add a very 

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00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:19,200
special word and you know, Kody 
 can't think of any better word 

404
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,520
than loyalty, except let's just 
 put a twist on it and go with 

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the Latin word for loyal, which 
 is fidelis. 

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00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,320
Oh I love how he knew that 
 
already. 

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00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,160
He's just so scholarly in his 
 
language. 

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00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,920
Mr. Mike is the one that 
 
suggests adding a word to the 

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00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,480
heart with the crown on its ball

 sack shaped phallic thing. 

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00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,960
And you know, Kody just gives 
 
him all of the praise, but then 

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00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,960
all of a sudden just pulls the 

word fidelis out of his butt. 

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00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,800
So not staged at all, not 
 
already come up with at all. 

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00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,760
Listen, this joint venture is 
 
working smoothly and beautifully

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00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,760
already and we're only two wives

 in. 

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00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,400
So it can only get better from 

here, including Janelle. 

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00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,360
It's interesting because he kind

 of takes this turn for the 

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00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:13,200
second wives where it becomes 
 
elements like earth, wind and 

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fire. 
 
And I thought, why wasn't Meri 

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fire? 
 
Because Meri would be fire and 

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00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,600
then it would be like flames and

 it's burn your house down. 

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00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,600
That's Meri. 
 
But unfortunately I wasn't part 

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00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,160
of the meeting so I didn't get 

to suggest that. 

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00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,080
We went from animals to 
 
elements. 

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00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:33,520
Yep, very quickly. 
 
No direction changed for Moreno 

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00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,520
Enterprises on that. 
 
One. 

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00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,600
No explanation whatsoever. 
 
Yeah. 

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00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,397
But Janelle is Earth, of course,

 and what would better 

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00:24:40,397 --> 00:24:44,160
symbolize Earth than a tree? 
 
And you know, our friend Gina 

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00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,520
was talking about what a tree 
 
means and how it stays where it 

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00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,655
is and that it's, I don't know. 
 

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00:24:50,663 --> 00:24:53,780
I feel like what she was 
describing was actually the 
 

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loyalty bit for Meri. 
Like always there, I thought, 
 

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00:24:56,688 --> 00:25:00,135
why aren't you saying like it 
has roots and then there's 
 

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00:25:00,143 --> 00:25:02,860
branches and whatever. 
But you know, Gina's the 
 

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00:25:02,868 --> 00:25:07,136
creative genius here, not me. 
She said grounded with 
 

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00:25:07,144 --> 00:25:09,760
stability. 
See, stability's not the same as

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00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,349

 fidelity. 
What am I talking about? 
 

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I think that they are kind of 
just spitballing at this point 


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and trying to throw out other 
ideas for the wise and they kind

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00:25:19,241 --> 00:25:21,360

 of do meld together in a 
sense. 

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00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,400
Well, Kody is so discerning that

 they better watch out because 

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00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,200
he's going to tear their 
 
thoughts apart. 

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00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,880
Just kidding, that's not the 
 
case. 

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00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,240
And last but not least, we get 

to Christine. 

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00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,725
Oh, she's easy, but not so easy.

 

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00:25:36,733 --> 00:25:40,560
Her priMeri element is wind. 
Very ethereal. 
 

447
00:25:40,568 --> 00:25:43,588
The winds of love. 
Yeah, he says. 
 

448
00:25:43,596 --> 00:25:49,714
It's going to be very hard to 
put wind and air into a design, 

449
00:25:49,714 --> 00:25:54,866
 and how do you do that? 
And he brings up that when he 
 

450
00:25:54,874 --> 00:25:59,096
thinks of wind and air, he 
thinks like a fairy, and he 
 

451
00:25:59,104 --> 00:26:01,644
thinks Christina's very much 
like a fairy. 
 

452
00:26:01,652 --> 00:26:06,414
And every once in a while, they 
can bite too, because they're 
 

453
00:26:06,422 --> 00:26:08,269
mischievous. 
They absolutely are. 
 

454
00:26:08,277 --> 00:26:11,880
They're usually ethereal, but 
then that little mischievous 
 

455
00:26:11,888 --> 00:26:15,109
glance comes around the corner 
and bites ya. 
 

456
00:26:15,117 --> 00:26:16,840
Fairies like to bite, 
apparently. 
 

457
00:26:16,848 --> 00:26:20,429
I've never heard this before. 
Maybe it's part of some sort of 

458
00:26:20,429 --> 00:26:21,858
 classic tale from days gone 
past. 
 

459
00:26:21,866 --> 00:26:27,095
I have heard it in Irish 
folklore that fairies do bite. 


460
00:26:27,103 --> 00:26:33,880
Are you well well researched in 
the Irish lore world? 
 

461
00:26:33,888 --> 00:26:42,260
I I don't want to say yes here. 
Then you'll be skirting eyes pop

462
00:26:42,260 --> 00:26:45,894

 quiz hotshot. 
When I was younger I was 
 

463
00:26:45,902 --> 00:26:49,880
obsessed with fairies. 
Not going to lie, like many 
 

464
00:26:49,888 --> 00:26:53,195
little girls are, I was obsessed
with fairies. 
 

465
00:26:53,203 --> 00:26:56,810
And they like to bite. 
They do. 
 

466
00:26:56,818 --> 00:26:59,535
It's a very weird fact about 
them. 
 

467
00:26:59,543 --> 00:27:04,520
I am curious who else out there 
knew this? 
 

468
00:27:04,528 --> 00:27:07,880
Well, I think it's funny that 
you're calling it a fact, as if 

469
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,660
 fairies are real and they 
really bite like it is a fact. 


470
00:27:11,668 --> 00:27:16,035
Pretty sure that they are real, 
and I resent the fact that you 


471
00:27:16,043 --> 00:27:17,612
would insinuate that they are 
not. 
 

472
00:27:17,620 --> 00:27:21,732
I know, so dismissive of me. 
It was very dismissive. 
 

473
00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:24,830
Thanks for apologizing. 
You're welcome. 
 

474
00:27:24,838 --> 00:27:32,276
There is Irish folklore of 
changelings like babies being 
 

475
00:27:32,284 --> 00:27:38,559
traded out from their bassinets,
and there's a lot of weird fairy

476
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:43,138

 stuff that people really do 
believe or did believe very long

477
00:27:43,138 --> 00:27:46,800

 ago. 
And I'm curious how fairies 
 

478
00:27:46,808 --> 00:27:52,630
might tie into Mormonism if 
there are any fairy tales from 


479
00:27:52,638 --> 00:27:54,980
the Mormons. 
But other than their entire 
 

480
00:27:54,988 --> 00:27:59,827
faith. 
I got it. 
 

481
00:27:59,835 --> 00:28:03,480
Nauvoo is where the fairies come
from, honey. 
 

482
00:28:03,488 --> 00:28:05,841
They all birthed out of the 
Canyon in Nauvoo. 
 

483
00:28:05,849 --> 00:28:08,720
Like a giant vagina, they come 
flying out. 
 

484
00:28:08,728 --> 00:28:12,576
And perhaps Christine herself 
was a changeling. 
 

485
00:28:12,584 --> 00:28:14,951
Never know. 
We will never know. 
 

486
00:28:14,959 --> 00:28:16,760
I have seen her bite a few 
people. 
 

487
00:28:16,768 --> 00:28:19,240
This scene is wrapped up by 
Gina. 
 

488
00:28:19,248 --> 00:28:23,330
Thank God she tells us that. 
It's obvious that Kody loves 
 

489
00:28:23,338 --> 00:28:26,187
them all, but each one is a bit 
different. 
 

490
00:28:26,195 --> 00:28:29,520
And you know, there's an 
interesting thing here with 
 

491
00:28:29,528 --> 00:28:31,792
monogamy versus polygamy, 
because with monogamist, you're 

492
00:28:31,792 --> 00:28:35,170
 trying to find all of these 
qualities that he loves in his 


493
00:28:35,178 --> 00:28:39,410
four different wives and one 
person, but he gets it in four 


494
00:28:39,418 --> 00:28:41,700
different people. 
Isn't that touching? 
 

495
00:28:41,708 --> 00:28:45,488
She's trying to articulate how 
she feels about monogamy. 
 

496
00:28:45,496 --> 00:28:51,635
It's as if the producers asked 
her a question and she's 
 

497
00:28:51,643 --> 00:28:56,260
struggling here. 
But Mike, her kind husband, 
 

498
00:28:56,268 --> 00:29:01,900
pipes up and has a revelation 
that perhaps it's like all of 
 

499
00:29:01,908 --> 00:29:06,100
the wives were meant to be 
together, and they become 10. 
 

500
00:29:06,108 --> 00:29:14,198
Hello. 
Yeah, you know, as Meri would 
 

501
00:29:14,206 --> 00:29:18,998
say, we don't go weird. 
Some poor producer asked these 


502
00:29:19,006 --> 00:29:23,732
two a question and they could 
not form an articulate answer. 


503
00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:28,022
No, it was a little ridiculous, 
but I guess the way that they 
 

504
00:29:28,030 --> 00:29:31,304
were going to wrap that up and 
then to put the cherry on top of

505
00:29:31,304 --> 00:29:34,128

 that ending, Kody tells us 
that his biggest fear in 

506
00:29:34,128 --> 00:29:37,960
designing 
 these wonderful 
gifts for his wives is that one 

507
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,018
of the wives 
 will be jealous 
of another piece of jewelry that

508
00:29:43,018 --> 00:29:46,460
a different wife 
 receives. 
What an understandable fear. 
 

509
00:29:46,468 --> 00:29:48,208
I totally get it. 
It would. 
 

510
00:29:48,216 --> 00:29:50,440
It frightens me. 
Now I'm frightened. 
 

511
00:29:50,448 --> 00:29:54,876
The potential of jealousy. 
My God, Oh Lord, no. 
 

512
00:29:54,884 --> 00:29:57,463
Not in this family. 
Never. 
 

513
00:29:57,471 --> 00:30:02,580
Kody introduces us to the next 
scene by telling us that they've

514
00:30:02,580 --> 00:30:06,360

 been asked to put together the
My Sister Wife's Closet 
 

515
00:30:06,368 --> 00:30:09,680
collection in a store via a 
wholesale line. 
 

516
00:30:09,688 --> 00:30:14,340
And this is going to make me ask
some questions in the future, 
 

517
00:30:14,348 --> 00:30:17,965
but we'll get to that. 
And Meri tells us that some 
 

518
00:30:17,973 --> 00:30:21,304
people were asking for less 
expensive pieces, so they're 
 

519
00:30:21,312 --> 00:30:26,100
going to do this wholesale line 
at a lower price point. 
 

520
00:30:26,108 --> 00:30:29,820
I think it makes sense. 
I'm not so sure how they're 
 

521
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:34,832
going to go about this. 
Gina and Mike are really the 
 

522
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,080
driving force behind this 
meeting. 
 

523
00:30:38,088 --> 00:30:47,440
They are helping facilitate this
meeting between the family and a

524
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,280

 casino called Silverton 
Casino. 

525
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,480
I've never heard of it. 
 
Nope, it's a happening place. 

526
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,160
They're going to carry huge 
 
gaudy silver jewelry in their 

527
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,960
gift shop. 
 
So sure, I guess it goes 

528
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,680
together. 
 
We get couch moments here and we

529
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,480
get a little bit of back story 

on where Christine and Janelle 

530
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,600
are fitting into the jewelry 
 
line again and Christine says 

531
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,800
that she is focusing on the fun 
 factor which she sees happening

532
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,640
in this new line. 
 
I don't understand the point of 

533
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,440
that, how she's seeing a fun 
 
factor in this new cheaper line 

534
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,280
of the. 
 
I know that is not explained at 

535
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,880
all, as if it's going to be neon

 or going to, you know, expand 

536
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,400
and shrink. 
 
Like, I don't know what's fun 

537
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,720
about it. 
 
It's just cheaper. 

538
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,000
She brings up the fact that she 
 was going to get into real 

539
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,000
estate and realizes that no, 
 
there's just not enough time in 

540
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,960
my busy schedule with having a 

small child named Truly and 

541
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,920
other small children. 
 
Nope, Nope, Nope. 

542
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,240
Can't do the Realty thing, no 
 
time for that. 

543
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,000
But this fun factor of a lesser 
 price point, wholesale jewelry,

544
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,520
sure, I can get on board with 
 
that. 

545
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,360
And we get from Janelle that, 
 
Nope, still focused on real 

546
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,960
estate. 
 
Yeah, big, huge eye roll from 

547
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Robyn that they focus in on. 
 
We'll see. 

548
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,320
Janelle's just trying to forge 

her own path, she tells us. 

549
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,040
And Robyn, she doesn't like 
 
that, because Robyn wants to 

550
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,680
forge her own path, but she 
 
needs everyone else to forge it 

551
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000
for her. 
 
She can't really do it. 

552
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,400
I don't get what they were 
 
trying to go for here by 

553
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,440
pointing out just specifically 

these two and where they're 

554
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,600
fitting into the jewelry line. 

Again, it felt very forced and 

555
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,000
weird and didn't fit in. 
 
Yeah, just another like random 

556
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,040
update I guess. 
 
Yeah, I think they're just 

557
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,240
trying to call out the 
 
differences in the wives and 

558
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,560
where they're at with it. 
 
But the Robyn eye roll, she 

559
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,800
looks up to the left and keeps 

her eyes up and to the left and 

560
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:04,040
they focus in on it. 
 
To me, it's very pointed that 

561
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,280
production left that in and 
 
zoomed in on her. 

562
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,240
When Janelle talks about 
 
choosing real estate over the 

563
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,280
jewelry line. 
 
Yeah, it's more of the same. 

564
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,520
So I guess she's just still 
 
frustrated and annoyed, yeah, 

565
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080
that someone else isn't taking 

care of her, making her dreams 

566
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,400
come true. 
 
I don't really. 

567
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,200
Yeah, but Mike and Gina are 
 
trying to take care of it. 

568
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,600
They're trying to help Rob. 
 
That's their number one goal, is

569
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,280
to make Robyn's dreams come 
 
true. 

570
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,880
And number two or three or four 
 somewhere down the line is 

571
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,080
making money. 
 
But really it's about Robyn's 

572
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,480
dreams. 
 
That's why we're all here, of 

573
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,120
course. 
 
To. 

574
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,140
Fulfill Robyn's dreams for her. 
 

575
00:33:39,148 --> 00:33:43,482
Making jewelry that weighs your 
neck down and gives you a 
 

576
00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:47,054
scoliosis or something. 
I just don't even know what's 
 

577
00:33:47,062 --> 00:33:50,415
the goal here. 
Robyn, please tell me other than

578
00:33:50,415 --> 00:33:55,728

 to injure our backs, we go to 
the casino and we're going to 
 

579
00:33:55,736 --> 00:33:59,840
meet Mike and Gina at the casino
gift store. 
 

580
00:33:59,848 --> 00:34:05,958
As we're walking into the 
casino, we see a large fish tank

581
00:34:05,958 --> 00:34:10,480

 and there are human mermaids 
in this fish tank. 
 

582
00:34:10,487 --> 00:34:13,333
So fun the. 
Family is baffled. 
 

583
00:34:13,342 --> 00:34:16,588
Christine got a little wet. 
She sure did. 
 

584
00:34:16,596 --> 00:34:19,938
Yeah, she loves, she loves a 
fish tank and she loves a Murr 


585
00:34:19,947 --> 00:34:22,340
person, so this was real 
exciting for her. 
 

586
00:34:22,348 --> 00:34:26,224
She loves fairies and murr 
people were finding out and make

587
00:34:26,224 --> 00:34:28,040

 believe sky friends named 
just. 

588
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,280
Make believe Christine. 
 
She's got the heart of a 12 year

589
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,400
old and the mind of an 8 year 
 
old. 

590
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,560
You often point out that 
 
Christine does her little hop, 

591
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,880
skip, jump, clap, clap, clap. 
 
Oh yeah, she did it here. 

592
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,120
Oh yeah. 
 
Hercules. 

593
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,280
Hercules. 
 
She did the Hercules clap. 

594
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,520
Yeah. 
 
And Christine says that it's 

595
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,159
hypocritical, but mermaids can 

be scantily dressed, whereas 

596
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,280
cocktail waitresses they should 
 not be. 

597
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,880
No, you know the modesty 
 
expectations regarding mermaids 

598
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120
are different than cocktail 
 
waitresses for sure. 

599
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Because, you know, mermaids are 
 just swimming around where 

600
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,240
cocktail waitresses are. 
 
Cocktail waitressing. 

601
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,640
Very true. 
 
How? 

602
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Dare those cocktail waitresses 

have their tails out? 

603
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,960
Oh no. 
 
Wow, wow. 

604
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Robyn questions. 
 
Is this morally OK to have their

605
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,920
products in a casino? 
 
She's really struggling with 

606
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,520
that. 
 
Because, you know, when I think 

607
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,640
of a moral pillar, I think of 
 
Robyn. 

608
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,920
When I think of doing right, I 

think of Robyn and she's really 

609
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,880
questioning this decision. 
 
Mormonism is against gambling. 

610
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,240
But luckily Christine researched

 the casino before they went to

611
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:42,560
ensure it was sitting ridden, 
 
that there would be no sitting 

612
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,560
in that casino. 
 
And while yes, she's being very 

613
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,840
puritanical, she found out that 
 the casino does have family 

614
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,280
activities, so it's fine. 
 
She would even go there herself.

615
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,480
Yeah, she makes a point to try 

to sell us on the fact that this

616
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,960
is a family casino. 
 
Listen, there's mermaids. 

617
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,840
She's giddy as a schoolgirl. 
 
She doesn't even notice the 

618
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,640
hookers and blow in the corner. 
 

619
00:36:09,648 --> 00:36:12,585
She didn't even notice. 
Lots of family attractions so 
 

620
00:36:12,593 --> 00:36:15,298
it's OK the. 
Family Casino. 
 

621
00:36:15,306 --> 00:36:17,894
What was it called again? 
Silverton. 
 

622
00:36:17,902 --> 00:36:21,260
Silverton casino where you bring
your family to. 
 

623
00:36:21,268 --> 00:36:24,220
See the mermaids. 
Yes, for all the family 
 

624
00:36:24,228 --> 00:36:28,344
activities at the gambling hall 
that the Mormons are OK with. 
 

625
00:36:28,352 --> 00:36:30,485
Well, they're not Mormon, 
they're AUB members. 
 

626
00:36:30,493 --> 00:36:33,990
Sorry, Mormons, we, we don't 
want to, you know, call 
 

627
00:36:33,998 --> 00:36:37,270
everything Mormon. 
It's very obvious that they're 


628
00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:39,367
against gambling. 
They've brought it up many 
 

629
00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:41,620
times. 
They even when they first moved 

630
00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:44,800
 there, they're like, do the 
kids even know what gambling is?

631
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,240

 
Have we ever even stepped foot 

632
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:47,600
in a casino? 
 
No. 

633
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,320
And then, you know, a couple of 
 the kids back then were talking

634
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,200
about it or mentioning that 
 
Janelle knew what it was. 

635
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,600
And Kody put the kibosh on that,

 like, don't talk about it. 

636
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,560
And now all of a sudden we're 
 
going to sell jewelry out of a 

637
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,520
casino, and Robyn, of all 
 
people, has to bring up the 

638
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,000
moral complications of this, and

 Christine's just justifying 

639
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,852
it. 
Oh, it's a family affair. 
 

640
00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:17,310
We could bring our family here. 
It'd be fine, fine, fine. 
 

641
00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:20,924
But then we get to the name of 
the gift shop. 
 

642
00:37:20,932 --> 00:37:23,892
We're going to meet in front of 
the gift shop now and find out 


643
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:27,840
what it's named. 
And it is named guilt. 
 

644
00:37:27,848 --> 00:37:31,614
Gold Capital letters on the 
signage. 
 

645
00:37:31,622 --> 00:37:40,120
GUILT, Guilt. 
The wives literally go oh wow. 


646
00:37:40,128 --> 00:37:46,549
It's funny because the sign, 
yes, I mean, it says guilt and 


647
00:37:46,557 --> 00:37:49,026
they're Hemming and hanging over
the name of the store. 
 

648
00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:52,636
But when you just, you know, 
turn your head ever so slightly 

649
00:37:52,636 --> 00:37:56,140
 and focus your eyes, you can 
see through the window that it's

650
00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:58,755

 just a gift shop. 
There's just like, crap in the 


651
00:37:58,763 --> 00:38:00,200
windows. 
Just stuff that you buy. 
 

652
00:38:00,208 --> 00:38:02,932
Well, stuff some people buy. 
There's a lot of crap, just 
 

653
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:05,720
stuff. 
Bright colors would buy. 
 

654
00:38:05,728 --> 00:38:09,168
Bright colors, shiny objects, 
things that say buy me, buy me 


655
00:38:09,176 --> 00:38:10,880
so I can sit in your house and 
do nothing. 
 

656
00:38:10,888 --> 00:38:12,950
That's what it is. 
It's that kind of store. 
 

657
00:38:12,958 --> 00:38:15,320
It doesn't look. 
It's not a sex shop. 
 

658
00:38:15,328 --> 00:38:19,384
There's no bottles of booze. 
There's no, I didn't really see 

659
00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:21,560
 any gambling stuff around. 
So it's. 
 

660
00:38:21,568 --> 00:38:23,767
Fuzzy handcuffs, that type of 
thing. 
 

661
00:38:23,775 --> 00:38:27,739
No hooker boots, it's literally 
just a gift shop, so you know. 


662
00:38:27,747 --> 00:38:30,685
Turns out Robyn can sleep 
tonight knowing that she's not 


663
00:38:30,693 --> 00:38:33,872
selling her wares in a terrible,
terrible sin ridden store. 
 

664
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,840
Oh, but first, Robyn needs to 
make sure that it's appropriate 

665
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,376
 by going in there and browsing 
around herself, and she 
 

666
00:38:41,384 --> 00:38:44,120
realizes, oh, it's just a play 
on words. 
 

667
00:38:44,128 --> 00:38:48,060
It's just shopping for adults 
and candy for kids. 
 

668
00:38:48,068 --> 00:38:52,780
And actually a lot of this stuff
I would have in my own home. 
 

669
00:38:52,788 --> 00:38:55,660
I said shocker, shocker, the 
hoarder, the shopaholic would 
 

670
00:38:55,668 --> 00:38:58,709
buy all the shit in this store. 
I was shocked. 
 

671
00:38:58,717 --> 00:39:03,302
I was so surprised. 
I noticed here that Robyn is 
 

672
00:39:03,310 --> 00:39:08,190
wearing jeans and a light yellow
blazer that is buttoned under 
 

673
00:39:08,198 --> 00:39:13,088
her boobies and she is looking 
very business casual. 
 

674
00:39:13,096 --> 00:39:21,530
And is she trying to look the 
part of a jewelry saleswoman? 
 

675
00:39:21,538 --> 00:39:24,258
I'm not sure. 
I don't know what that looks 
 

676
00:39:24,266 --> 00:39:27,149
like. 
I don't know either, but she's 


677
00:39:27,157 --> 00:39:28,475
trying. 
She's trying. 
 

678
00:39:28,483 --> 00:39:32,752
She really was trying that 
button that was buttoned way too

679
00:39:32,752 --> 00:39:34,984

 tightly under her bosom. 
It was. 
 

680
00:39:34,992 --> 00:39:37,668
It was cute. 
Was it cute? 
 

681
00:39:37,676 --> 00:39:39,554
She was looking, she was looking
cute. 
 

682
00:39:39,562 --> 00:39:44,080
OK, she was looking something. 
We went from Aeropostale to 
 

683
00:39:44,088 --> 00:39:48,405
Grandma bargain bin and now 
we're at business Blazer casual.

684
00:39:48,405 --> 00:39:51,240

 
Robyn is such a chameleon, you 

685
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,200
know, really fitting in wherever

 she needs to. 

686
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,440
Very good at putting a mask on 

in a costume, that one. 

687
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,640
At the family friendly casino. 

Right, Gina says. 

688
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,280
Thank you to the manager for 
 
allowing them to come in and 

689
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,440
show their wonderful product 
 
off. 

690
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,800
She tells the camera that middle

 management wherever they go 

691
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,280
seems to like the my sister 
 
wife's closet concept, but once 

692
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,177
it gets leveled up to leadership

 of these retailers, they seem 

693
00:40:18,177 --> 00:40:22,560
to have an issue with customer 

perception about a polygamist 

694
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,280
family and what that means. 
 
It's like, Oh my God, I guess 

695
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,000
that would be weird to try to be

 selling polygamist. 

696
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,080
Is it really that it's 
 
polygamous? 

697
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,400
Sure, maybe, but also it's the 

whole idea of why does this 

698
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,520
matter? 
 
It's jewelry. 

699
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,400
What does it have to do with 
 
being a sister wife? 

700
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,440
That's what I still feel is the 
 fundamental thing is if there's

701
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,000
a disconnect, sure, maybe some, 
 you know, leader in some 

702
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,680
building that has nothing to do 
 with the retail floor doesn't 

703
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,840
understand that no one would 
 
care when they're in the store 

704
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,240
about the polygamy aspect. 
 
But a very serious question 

705
00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:59,560
would be why would we ever sell 
 this product? 

706
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,560
Why does anyone actually want 
 
it? 

707
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,240
No one would care, right? 
 
Which is, you know, I guess what

708
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:07,400
everybody knows except for the 

Browns and poor Gina and Mike. 

709
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:13,200
Gina gets herself all worked up 
 and she says when driving in 

710
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,320
Vegas, if you were to look over 
 in the car next to you at a 

711
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:22,480
stoplight, you could see a woman

 and her husband with her 

712
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,200
boobies out. 
 
Or you could look at these women

713
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,240
with their high necks and 
 
multiple other wives. 

714
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:33,720
And why does it matter? 
 
Like comparing polygamous and 

715
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,200
monogamous and we're in Sin 
 
City. 

716
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,360
Why does it matter? 
 
And they're doing their best to 

717
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,320
get her worked up, to get some 

sort of moment here. 

718
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,960
And they did trick me. 
 
They did trick me. 

719
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,960
And then, you know, seeing it 
 
next where it seems like she's 

720
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,600
going against the family. 
 
But no, no, she was just getting

721
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,520
worked up by some producer here.

 

722
00:41:56,528 --> 00:41:59,550
Yeah, she says. 
When you look out the window of 

723
00:41:59,550 --> 00:42:01,934
 the car you could see anybody 
part. 
 

724
00:42:01,942 --> 00:42:04,269
In Las. 
Vegas. 
 

725
00:42:04,277 --> 00:42:07,000
And I'm like wow, anybody part 
OK. 
 

726
00:42:07,008 --> 00:42:09,694
So why do we care about 
polygamous jewelry? 
 

727
00:42:09,702 --> 00:42:14,848
The moral outrage is what I say 
the moral outrage. 
 

728
00:42:14,856 --> 00:42:20,440
Kody says that they will only be
selling this jewelry in 
 

729
00:42:20,448 --> 00:42:25,200
Silverton and he thinks that it 
will become a destination once 


730
00:42:25,208 --> 00:42:27,618
they announce it to their 
followers. 
 

731
00:42:27,626 --> 00:42:31,928
Oh yes, people will be flocking 
to that gift shop in a family 
 

732
00:42:31,936 --> 00:42:34,254
friendly casino to buy 
polygamous themed jewelry. 
 

733
00:42:34,262 --> 00:42:39,096
They're going to be shopping at 
Gilt for that polygamous 
 

734
00:42:39,104 --> 00:42:41,281
jewelry. 
Dropping the dollars. 
 

735
00:42:41,289 --> 00:42:44,652
Like in there? 
This is where earlier what I was

736
00:42:44,652 --> 00:42:47,664

 saying there's something that 
doesn't align with their whole 


737
00:42:47,672 --> 00:42:49,720
wholesale line whatnot Ness. 
OK. 
 

738
00:42:49,728 --> 00:42:51,268
I get that you're making a 
wholesale line. 
 

739
00:42:51,276 --> 00:42:54,860
Well, I might be wrong, but I 
thought wholesale meant that you

740
00:42:54,860 --> 00:42:57,099

 distribute it to retailers and
they sell it. 
 

741
00:42:57,107 --> 00:43:00,141
It's not as if you just put it 
in one store. 
 

742
00:43:00,149 --> 00:43:03,679
You are correct. 
And so that was weird to me. 
 

743
00:43:03,687 --> 00:43:06,998
And also obviously the whole 
thing of it being a destination 

744
00:43:06,998 --> 00:43:10,472
 for anyone to go to. 
It's, it feels to me as if maybe

745
00:43:10,472 --> 00:43:13,500

 if you lived 5 miles down the 
street, you might drive there if

746
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:14,960

 you really cared about sister 
wives. 
 

747
00:43:14,968 --> 00:43:17,904
But who's going? 
Oh, my husband wants to go to 
 

748
00:43:17,912 --> 00:43:19,494
Vegas next year. 
And I'm so excited because when 

749
00:43:19,494 --> 00:43:21,990
 we, when we go, I'm going to go
to this family friendly casino 


750
00:43:21,998 --> 00:43:24,840
to the gift shop and I'm going 
to buy sister wives jewelry 
 

751
00:43:24,848 --> 00:43:27,700
because it's cheaper there than 
on the website. 
 

752
00:43:27,708 --> 00:43:32,339
What it just I I. 
We're going to drive all the way

753
00:43:32,339 --> 00:43:35,462

 to the outskirts to Silverton,
who nobody has ever heard of 
 

754
00:43:35,470 --> 00:43:37,658
before, to go and see the 
mermaids. 
 

755
00:43:37,666 --> 00:43:40,085
But no, no, no, no, not just the
mermaids. 
 

756
00:43:40,093 --> 00:43:43,540
We need to get our sister wives 
jewelry. 
 

757
00:43:43,548 --> 00:43:45,969
Well. 
That's why I always say I go to 

758
00:43:45,969 --> 00:43:48,824
 Silverton. 
To get some silver. 
 

759
00:43:48,832 --> 00:43:52,575
To wrap up this lovely scene, 
Kody decides that he's going to 

760
00:43:52,575 --> 00:43:55,120
 look around guilt because, you 
know, maybe he's got a little 
 

761
00:43:55,128 --> 00:43:57,283
inner guilt. 
Maybe he wants to do a little 
 

762
00:43:57,291 --> 00:44:01,485
gender bending and then all of a
sudden he sees an apron, A 
 

763
00:44:01,493 --> 00:44:06,056
frilly, frilly apron, and thinks
I'm going to put it on and make 

764
00:44:06,056 --> 00:44:09,094
 fun of myself. 
And I didn't care at all. 
 

765
00:44:09,102 --> 00:44:11,381
But it happened. 
And you know, the whole play on,

766
00:44:11,381 --> 00:44:14,775

 oh, look at me, my women like 
to make fun of my masculinity. 


767
00:44:14,783 --> 00:44:18,192
I'm a joke. 
And it just wasn't funny and I 


768
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,744
didn't care. 
I don't really know. 
 

769
00:44:19,752 --> 00:44:23,875
No, he says that the women love 
to downplay his masculinity any 

770
00:44:23,875 --> 00:44:28,935
 chance they get. 
Womp womp again, masculinity 
 

771
00:44:28,943 --> 00:44:34,098
talk and this guy and. 
This guy. 
 

772
00:44:34,106 --> 00:44:37,170
This guy just showboating again,
trying to be all cute. 
 

773
00:44:37,178 --> 00:44:39,458
See, you know, maybe they should
make aprons. 
 

774
00:44:39,466 --> 00:44:41,460
Maybe they actually would sell 
aprons. 
 

775
00:44:41,468 --> 00:44:44,179
This is it. 
The apron is a far better idea 


776
00:44:44,187 --> 00:44:45,970
than jewelry in my humble 
opinion. 
 

777
00:44:45,978 --> 00:44:49,328
At this point, yeah, it it sure 
is. 
 

778
00:44:49,336 --> 00:44:53,014
Yeah, especially after Kody 
models it on the show, right? 
 

779
00:44:53,022 --> 00:44:56,480
Add some ruffles. 
Add some thrills, some frills, 


780
00:44:56,488 --> 00:45:00,734
some feathers. 
Some scales from the mermaid's 


781
00:45:00,742 --> 00:45:04,535
tail. 
This is our mermaid apron, 
 

782
00:45:04,543 --> 00:45:08,190
Christine, Hercules, Hercules 
and Robyn. 
 

783
00:45:08,198 --> 00:45:10,840
You know, because we always rely
on Robyn. 
 

784
00:45:10,848 --> 00:45:13,660
Not only is she the moral 
compass, but she's the 
 

785
00:45:13,668 --> 00:45:15,832
intellectual lighthouse for all 
of us. 
 

786
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,328
And she tells the camera this is
another opportunity for us. 
 

787
00:45:19,336 --> 00:45:23,380
And if it doesn't work out, 
we'll need to go back to the 
 

788
00:45:23,388 --> 00:45:25,750
drawing board for my sister 
wife's closet. 
 

789
00:45:25,758 --> 00:45:31,103
And yeah, you will, because it 
didn't work selling it on the 
 

790
00:45:31,111 --> 00:45:32,594
website. 
It doesn't work selling at 
 

791
00:45:32,602 --> 00:45:35,290
Expos. 
And now you're going to 
 

792
00:45:35,298 --> 00:45:38,860
wholesale distribute exclusively
to 1 store inside a casino that 

793
00:45:38,860 --> 00:45:42,175
 no one's ever heard of. 
I think you're going to be going

794
00:45:42,175 --> 00:45:43,721

 back to the drawing board is 
what I think. 
 

795
00:45:43,729 --> 00:45:46,248
That's my guess. 
I don't know, I could be wrong. 

796
00:45:46,248 --> 00:45:48,360
 
To me, at Reeks of we went into 

797
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,200
this wholesale idea thinking we 
 would sell to local casinos and

798
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,160
we've been striking out, so now 
 we're going to say it's 

799
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:03,520
exclusively at Silverton. 
 
At guilt on Silverton, I feel 

800
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,480
like there's probably some sort 
 of way that you would say it to

801
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,360
make it sound even more 
 
exclusive. 

802
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Oh, you know, the guilt inside 

of Silverton. 

803
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,400
That's where our jewellery is 
 
sold. 

804
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,760
This is ridiculous. 
 
Oh yeah. 

805
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,960
Our Part 2 of the episode starts

 with following America's 

806
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,360
favorite gym rat to the gym for 
 their weekly weigh in and 

807
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,920
meeting with Sean. 
 
And of course I'm speaking about

808
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,240
Janelle. 
 
Janelle Brown in her leg warmers

809
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:37,080
in that high cut onesie or 
 
leotard with the sweat band and 

810
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,600
the hair pulled back. 
 
She's going to the gym. 

811
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,720
She did have a sweat band under 
 her bangs in segments of this. 

812
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,080
Oh good. 
 
Which was pretty funny. 

813
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,720
Yeah, it kind of caught me off 

guard a bit. 

814
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,600
She's she's working out, she's 

working hard, she's trying to 

815
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,960
lose that weight. 
 
But as she's approaching the 

816
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,800
gym, there's a voiceover from 
 
her talking about how she's 

817
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,760
really plateaued on her weight 

loss journey. 

818
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,600
And we've been on this journey 

with her. 

819
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,080
She has lost weight, plateaued. 
 

820
00:47:05,088 --> 00:47:09,072
Of course, Shawn, her trainer, 
has really tried to emphasize, 


821
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,780
how do you feel? 
How many inches have you lost? 


822
00:47:11,788 --> 00:47:15,076
The things that are you've said 
before, the nonscale victories, 

823
00:47:15,076 --> 00:47:17,630
 He's really trying to emphasize
that. 
 

824
00:47:17,638 --> 00:47:20,646
And she's still hung up on that 
damn scale. 
 

825
00:47:20,654 --> 00:47:24,310
Yeah, she reiterates that she 
has no scale at home. 
 

826
00:47:24,318 --> 00:47:28,668
She was tempted to buy one after
their smashing of her scale, but

827
00:47:28,668 --> 00:47:30,862

 she did not. 
She thought she would go right 


828
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:32,480
to the store and buy another 
one. 
 

829
00:47:32,488 --> 00:47:34,775
Yeah. 
She fought that temptation her. 

830
00:47:34,775 --> 00:47:35,720
 
Cheapness went out. 

831
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,767
That's very Robyn coated, right?

 

832
00:47:37,775 --> 00:47:38,979
Right. 
Like Robyn would be like. 
 

833
00:47:38,987 --> 00:47:42,368
I got to go buy another scale. 
And Janelle controlled herself. 

834
00:47:42,368 --> 00:47:45,320
 
She mentions that her first diet

835
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,432
that she ever started was at age

 8 and so it's very hard to 

836
00:47:49,432 --> 00:47:52,910
break the mindset of not looking
at 
 the number on the scale 

837
00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:56,175
because it started for her at 
age 8. 
 

838
00:47:56,183 --> 00:48:01,082
That struck me as so dramatic 
and early, and maybe it's not, 


839
00:48:01,090 --> 00:48:04,014
but I mean, maybe you become 
aware of it. 
 

840
00:48:04,022 --> 00:48:07,454
But my gosh, to be thinking 
about dieting at 8 years old, 
 

841
00:48:07,462 --> 00:48:10,130
maybe that's normal. 
I don't know. 
 

842
00:48:10,138 --> 00:48:15,543
It's definitely not OK, which 
makes me wonder what else is at 

843
00:48:15,543 --> 00:48:18,775
 play here. 
There is a factor of control 
 

844
00:48:18,783 --> 00:48:22,500
that comes in with dieting for a
lot of people, having control 
 

845
00:48:22,508 --> 00:48:26,740
over your life, control over 
your food, your diet for the 
 

846
00:48:26,748 --> 00:48:30,880
moment, that's the case with a 
lot of eating disorders, is just

847
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,280

 needing control over your life
in some aspect, and that's part 

848
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,802
 that you can control. 
So I wonder about the psychology

849
00:48:39,802 --> 00:48:45,204

 behind this more and more when
we hear about it from her. 
 

850
00:48:45,212 --> 00:48:51,548
I just feel like there's so much
more to her story, and I want to

851
00:48:51,548 --> 00:48:55,676

 know more about her. 
Yeah, I I don't know what else 


852
00:48:55,684 --> 00:48:57,267
to say. 
It's just odd. 
 

853
00:48:57,275 --> 00:49:01,080
She gives us these tiny tidbits 
like dieting at age 8. 
 

854
00:49:01,088 --> 00:49:03,183
Right, Which to me seems 
extreme. 
 

855
00:49:03,191 --> 00:49:04,947
And you agree that it seems 
extreme. 
 

856
00:49:04,955 --> 00:49:05,880
It is. 
Extreme. 
 

857
00:49:05,888 --> 00:49:08,732
Right. 
So it's just mentioned and then 

858
00:49:08,732 --> 00:49:12,434
 kind of glossed over, although 
it is partnered with, like you 


859
00:49:12,442 --> 00:49:16,102
said, how she's found it hard to
break the cycle of being so 
 

860
00:49:16,110 --> 00:49:19,814
obsessed with the scale and she 
even refers to it as 
 

861
00:49:19,822 --> 00:49:21,947
devastating. 
When the number doesn't change, 

862
00:49:21,947 --> 00:49:23,856
 it's. 
Devastating for her. 
 

863
00:49:23,864 --> 00:49:28,160
I mean, oh, I feel so bad for 
her. 
 

864
00:49:28,168 --> 00:49:33,555
And I wonder if at 8 years old, 
you know, if you're a chubby 
 

865
00:49:33,563 --> 00:49:36,735
little person and you're missing
an element of control. 
 

866
00:49:36,743 --> 00:49:38,240
I mean, yeah, I know. 
I don't. 
 

867
00:49:38,248 --> 00:49:42,509
Know are you getting picked on? 
Is it familial people picking on

868
00:49:42,509 --> 00:49:45,842

 you? 
Her mom is not particularly in 


869
00:49:45,850 --> 00:49:51,140
shape, so it's not, yeah, that 
pressure from her I wouldn't 
 

870
00:49:51,148 --> 00:49:53,304
feel. 
But no, you know what? 
 

871
00:49:53,312 --> 00:49:56,928
That's wrong because a lot of 
moms put pressure, unnecessary 


872
00:49:56,936 --> 00:50:00,427
pressure on their girls to be 
fit and they're not fit 
 

873
00:50:00,435 --> 00:50:01,752
themselves. 
So I don't know. 
 

874
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,524
I don't know what it is. 
It's odd to me. 
 

875
00:50:04,532 --> 00:50:07,360
And I want to hear more about 
her story. 
 

876
00:50:07,368 --> 00:50:12,240
I don't want it to be one of 
those stories, though. 
 

877
00:50:12,248 --> 00:50:15,245
Where where she's glossing over 
things. 
 

878
00:50:15,253 --> 00:50:18,384
I want her to be ready to tell 
her story and I want her to do 


879
00:50:18,392 --> 00:50:21,022
it right. 
And I really hope that when and 

880
00:50:21,022 --> 00:50:26,896
 if Janelle decides to write a 
book, I hope she gives us all of

881
00:50:26,896 --> 00:50:29,840

 this stuff. 
I hope she gives us the nitty 
 

882
00:50:29,848 --> 00:50:32,600
gritty into her childhood and 
why she's struggled with her 
 

883
00:50:32,608 --> 00:50:35,862
weight because she's brought it 
up so much in the show. 
 

884
00:50:35,870 --> 00:50:38,784
I think it would be beneficial 
to people who have followed the 

885
00:50:38,784 --> 00:50:40,946
 show for a long time. 
And I think this is something 
 

886
00:50:40,954 --> 00:50:42,680
that a lot of women deal with 
and. 
 

887
00:50:42,688 --> 00:50:46,610
I agree with you that Janelle's 
story would be very interesting 

888
00:50:46,610 --> 00:50:50,375
 to hear if it was told 
thoroughly and truthfully. 
 

889
00:50:50,383 --> 00:50:53,478
You know, obviously you don't 
want to put too much pressure on

890
00:50:53,478 --> 00:50:54,686

 a person to be like Sherry's 
story. 
 

891
00:50:54,694 --> 00:50:56,747
Sherry's story but a gloss over 
story? 
 

892
00:50:56,755 --> 00:50:58,184
Fuck that. 
I hear you. 
 

893
00:50:58,192 --> 00:51:00,885
You don't want to hear a Meri's 
version of a story, you would 
 

894
00:51:00,893 --> 00:51:05,505
want to hear the truth. 
Yeah, I think I think back to 
 

895
00:51:05,513 --> 00:51:10,060
the Britney Spears memoir that 
was released and the fact that 


896
00:51:10,068 --> 00:51:14,475
she glossed over so much and 
there was a ghostwriter involved

897
00:51:14,475 --> 00:51:19,508

 and it did not feel authentic.
Honestly, unpopular opinion, 
 

898
00:51:19,516 --> 00:51:23,522
that memoir wasn't great and it 
was a waste of her time. 
 

899
00:51:23,530 --> 00:51:26,660
And she should have waited 10 
plus more years until she's 
 

900
00:51:26,668 --> 00:51:29,768
settled and in the right 
headspace to write it. 
 

901
00:51:29,776 --> 00:51:32,645
And I want that so badly from 
Janelle. 
 

902
00:51:32,653 --> 00:51:37,432
So if by chance you hear this, 
Janelle, please, Please wait 
 

903
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,063
until you are fully ready to 
Share your story, to Share your 

904
00:51:41,063 --> 00:51:43,452
 story. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
 

905
00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:52,080
We hear from Sean that he thinks
she is neurotic about the scale 

906
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:58,380
 and she has lost inches and 
Sean doesn't like how she is 

907
00:51:58,380 --> 00:52:00,560
still so 
 fixated on this 
scale. 

908
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,400
He is frustrated with her. 
 
I feel like he mentioned that 

909
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,520
she recently has lost 10 inches 
 overall, but in the last month 

910
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,600
alone, 2 1/2 inches. 
 
So that's obviously significant 

911
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,240
regardless of what the scale is 
 saying. 

912
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:19,920
I mean, she's losing literal 
 
physical body mass, so whatever 

913
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,880
the scale saying, you know. 
 
She tells him that she was 

914
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,480
thinking of buying another scale

 and he says he's glad she 

915
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,960
didn't. 
 
Obviously she is being neurotic 

916
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,120
about the scale. 
 
I'm glad he's busting her balls 

917
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,360
about it because don't get 
 
another fucking scale, girl. 

918
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,240
As we find out, she's doing 
 
weekly check INS anyway. 

919
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:36,983
Weigh ends at the gym with him. 
 

920
00:52:36,991 --> 00:52:39,551
That's enough. 
And if she's not able to manage 

921
00:52:39,551 --> 00:52:41,830
 that, that's something to 
evaluate and to work on. 
 

922
00:52:41,838 --> 00:52:45,143
You can weigh yourself once a 
week and have that be, you know.

923
00:52:45,143 --> 00:52:46,880

 
That should be OK in my opinion.

924
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,120
She Tees it up that she gets 
 
very antsy when they're going to

925
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,853
do these weigh insurance once a 
 month, but then we find out 

926
00:52:53,853 --> 00:52:57,234
that they're doing them weekly, 
so 
 there's no need to get so 

927
00:52:57,234 --> 00:52:59,800
worked up. 
 
And if she really truly feels 

928
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,320
the need to weigh herself every 
 morning and is getting that 

929
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,600
worked up about a weekly weigh 

in or a monthly weigh in, she 

930
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,400
should be seeing a therapist at 
 this point. 

931
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,720
And Sean refers her to a 
 
nutritionist and wants her to 

932
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:17,400
meet with a nutritionist. 
 
I hope that there has been some 

933
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,200
discussion about seeing a 
 
therapist as well and that we 

934
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,840
just haven't seen that because 

this is shot in 2013. 

935
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Therapy is not as mainstream 
 
probably in 2013 as it is today.

936
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,480
So hopefully that was brought up

 at some point as well. 

937
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,760
I mean, I agree that it sounds 

like something she needs to 

938
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,360
speak to somebody about more 
 
than just a trainer. 

939
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,320
Not to put any trainers down, 
 
but I think it needs some more 

940
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,960
evaluation. 
 
So Sean talks about how he 

941
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,000
really does want her to meet 
 
with a nutritionist and to 

942
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,440
involve the family more so to 
 
start getting behind the meal 

943
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,360
planning and involving the 
 
family in the meal time and 

944
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,080
nutrition aspect. 
 
He set up a meeting with a 

945
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,080
nutritionist named Lisa to 
 
review her food choices and 

946
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,536
maybe put that plan into action,

 incorporating the family, 

947
00:54:08,536 --> 00:54:11,560
making some better choices. 
 
Yeah, he says that since they've

948
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,520
been working together, Janelle 

has mentioned multiple times 

949
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,440
that she is curious about the 
 
fact that potentially there 

950
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,320
could be food allergies or other

 things going on with her. 

951
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:28,400
So we are going to meet Lisa. 
 
We find out Lisa has a trade 

952
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,880
name. 
 
Oh yeah. 

953
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:34,160
Kettlebell bombshell. 
 
Kettlebell bombshell. 

954
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,320
Janelle has very good 
 
descriptive words for Lisa. 

955
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,640
Oh. 
 
She is tall and statuesque and 

956
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,040
very intimidating. 
 
And I thought, I'm not so sure 

957
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,600
about the bombshell part, but I 
 am a critical gay man and an 

958
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,760
asshole, so take it as it is. 
 
Is she tall? 

959
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,280
Sure. 
 
Is she statuesque? 

960
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,680
Yes, like a Greek God. 
 
She definitely is a kettlebell. 

961
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,840
My first thought upon seeing 
 
Lisa is that I miss old beauty 

962
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,920
standards. 
 
I miss normal people being 

963
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,840
beautiful. 
 
Yeah, I see her and I think of 

964
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,080
what Janelle was thinking at the

 time that she met her. 

965
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,392
And I'm like God, what happened 
 to individuality and 

966
00:55:20,392 --> 00:55:24,715
individuals being pretty for 
being 
 themselves and having 

967
00:55:24,715 --> 00:55:28,760
unique features? 
 
Oh God, we're so good cop, bad 

968
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,720
cop right now. 
 
I'm like, she's not a bombshell.

969
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,400
And you're like, she looks like 
 a person. 

970
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,160
She has features. 
 
I love that Janelle is saying 

971
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,597
she is a bombshell and that she 
 was intimidated by her and 

972
00:55:39,597 --> 00:55:41,760
she's so beautiful. 
 
And then we see her and I'm 

973
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,000
like, yay, a normal woman. 
 
That's pretty normal. 

974
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,960
Yeah. 
 
God, Can you imagine today if 

975
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:55,800
they were introducing Lisa the 

Kettle bell bombshell with her 

976
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,000
big old puffed up lips and her 

hair that looks like everyone 

977
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,240
else? 
 
And she'd be. 

978
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,200
Kardashianized or whatever it's 
 called. 

979
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:06,360
Yeah, we don't get that from 
 
Lisa and I appreciate it. 

980
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,160
Thank you, Lisa. 
 
Lisa's Real and Lisa talks about

981
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,280
the importance of nutritional 
 
value of food and aligning that 

982
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,965
to Janelle's weight loss goals. 
 

983
00:56:15,973 --> 00:56:19,718
Yeah, Lisa shares with us that 
the workout shapes the body, but

984
00:56:19,718 --> 00:56:23,980

 the food shows it off. 
And I have heard this before. 
 

985
00:56:23,988 --> 00:56:28,135
I think many people who have 
worked out or met with a 
 

986
00:56:28,143 --> 00:56:30,930
nutritionist or worked with a 
trainer have probably heard that

987
00:56:30,930 --> 00:56:34,143

 you shape the body in the gym 
and you'll show it off with what

988
00:56:34,143 --> 00:56:38,160

 you eat. 
Well, and according to Lisa, 
 

989
00:56:38,168 --> 00:56:41,880
she's guessing that a 1500 
calorie diet makes sense for 
 

990
00:56:41,888 --> 00:56:45,081
Janelle, where she currently is 
and with her working out and all

991
00:56:45,081 --> 00:56:48,108

 of the things and she's going 
to provide her with some 

992
00:56:48,108 --> 00:56:51,120
recipes. 
 
She gives her a meal plan, she 

993
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,600
hands her some papers, and I'm 

guessing it's a meal plan with a

994
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,600
shopping list and all of that 
 
involved. 

995
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,880
And Janelle's a little 
 
intimidated, a little nervous 

996
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,920
about it. 
 
I have to say, when I went to a 

997
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,720
gym and got a meal plan myself, 
 it was a relief. 

998
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,080
And as a mom, meal time is the 

bane of my existence. 

999
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:20,760
I hate it so much and I often 
 
think I should go back to meal 

1000
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,880
planning and planning the week 

out on Sunday or Saturday with 

1001
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,240
my husband and I don't know why 
 I don't. 

1002
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,000
I don't know why I don't. 
 
Well, because you have a husband

1003
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,120
that cooks regularly as well, 
 
Darling, he does do that. 

1004
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,000
Well, that was only for you. 
 
Well, and then when you cook, 

1005
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,600
you know that ketchup on those 

noodles, really, you know, it's 

1006
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,640
just, it's great. 
 
Connie, don't, don't sell 

1007
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,120
yourself short. 
 
You don't need a meal plan. 

1008
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,280
Ramen noodles with ketchup 
 
Spaghetti you mean, right? 

1009
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,150
Yes, almost as good as Robyn's. 
 

1010
00:57:53,158 --> 00:57:56,170
And while this is being 
reviewed, Lisa, Janelle, 
 

1011
00:57:56,178 --> 00:57:58,007
etcetera, what she's going to 
do. 
 

1012
00:57:58,015 --> 00:58:00,708
There's this cutaway to Janelle 
prepping some food or doing 
 

1013
00:58:00,716 --> 00:58:03,222
something in the kitchen. 
And it was great to see. 
 

1014
00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:06,071
There's like a pile of lettuce 
and a pile of diced up tomatoes 

1015
00:58:06,071 --> 00:58:08,696
 and all this stuff. 
And I was like, it made me a 
 

1016
00:58:08,704 --> 00:58:11,115
little excited. 
It made me think I should do 
 

1017
00:58:11,123 --> 00:58:13,520
that. 
Janelle is looking good by the 


1018
00:58:13,528 --> 00:58:16,484
way. 
I have to say they show her 
 

1019
00:58:16,492 --> 00:58:19,535
throughout this segment doing 
different workouts with her 
 

1020
00:58:19,543 --> 00:58:23,841
sweatband under her bangs and 
whipping them chains. 
 

1021
00:58:23,849 --> 00:58:26,374
The giant ropes. 
Giant ropes. 
 

1022
00:58:26,382 --> 00:58:27,738
Chains. 
The chains. 
 

1023
00:58:27,746 --> 00:58:29,846
She's breaking free of her 
chains. 
 

1024
00:58:29,854 --> 00:58:35,060
Breaking free of that scale and 
she's doing that Stairmaster and

1025
00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:38,732

 whatever else that Shawn's got
her doing, and she is looking 
 

1026
00:58:38,740 --> 00:58:40,038
fierce. 
You know, there was 1 moment 
 

1027
00:58:40,046 --> 00:58:42,441
where she was like up on her 
arms and I don't know what she 


1028
00:58:42,449 --> 00:58:45,262
was doing with her legs but they
were kicked in the air or 
 

1029
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:47,656
something and it was she was 
holding up her body. 
 

1030
00:58:47,664 --> 00:58:50,602
It was very different from when 
we first saw her working out 
 

1031
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:53,800
where she was struggling to walk
on a treadmill and shit. 
 

1032
00:58:53,808 --> 00:58:56,400
Like she was really, really, 
really struggling with anything 

1033
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,244
 physical when she started. 
When she had to push herself out

1034
00:58:59,244 --> 00:59:00,960

 of the couch, yes. 
Yeah, yeah. 
 

1035
00:59:00,968 --> 00:59:04,845
And Janelle tells us that she 
hopes she gets the same payoff 


1036
00:59:04,853 --> 00:59:07,572
from improving her food habits 
as she did from exercise. 
 

1037
00:59:07,580 --> 00:59:12,386
And I hope so too, Janelle. 
I am curious because if there is

1038
00:59:12,386 --> 00:59:16,702

 not a payoff from this meal 
planning on top of how often she

1039
00:59:16,702 --> 00:59:20,561

 is working out, she needs to 
get some lab work done if she 

1040
00:59:20,561 --> 00:59:24,435
has 
 not already. 
Yeah, because I think so many 
 

1041
00:59:24,443 --> 00:59:30,574
women struggle with this weight 
situation and hormones are a 
 

1042
00:59:30,582 --> 00:59:33,280
bitch. 
I've heard they can make you one

1043
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,960

 too. 
Kind of what's Robyn's excuse? 


1044
00:59:37,968 --> 00:59:45,100
We got back to the Brown family 
cul-de-sac and Kody is leaving 


1045
00:59:45,108 --> 00:59:50,456
Robyn's to go to Meri's. 
We'll make that check #2 for 
 

1046
00:59:50,464 --> 00:59:54,442
meaningless time at Robyn's, 
going to another wives or just 


1047
00:59:54,450 --> 00:59:58,104
hanging out there. 
And we get to Meri's and they go

1048
00:59:58,104 --> 01:00:00,950

 into the kitchen and they're 
packing a picnic. 
 

1049
01:00:00,958 --> 01:00:06,112
Little picnic in a basket. 
They are going to go to Red Rock

1050
01:00:06,112 --> 01:00:10,464

 Canyon. 
To discuss things. 
 

1051
01:00:10,472 --> 01:00:14,600
Meri's nervous. 
She's not sure how he's going to

1052
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:15,958

 take it. 
When they have this discussion, 

1053
01:00:15,958 --> 01:00:18,130
 I wonder what they're going to 
talk about. 
 

1054
01:00:18,138 --> 01:00:23,080
Kody says we're going to talk 
about if we're going to take 
 

1055
01:00:23,088 --> 01:00:27,832
scientific measures for baby 
making, I'm I'm paraphrasing. 
 

1056
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:33,916
As they're arriving at Red Rock 
Canyon, Kody jokes. 
 

1057
01:00:33,924 --> 01:00:38,628
Would it bother you if I've been
here with another woman? 
 

1058
01:00:38,636 --> 01:00:41,590
Meri says. 
Well, it does know that he said 

1059
01:00:41,590 --> 01:00:43,500
 that. 
Yeah. 
 

1060
01:00:43,508 --> 01:00:45,960
Oh, my God. 
Typical man, putting his foot in

1061
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,544

 his mouth. 
Well, this is it. 
 

1062
01:00:47,552 --> 01:00:50,224
Kody does need help from doing, 
you know, preventing doing this 

1063
01:00:50,224 --> 01:00:51,955
 because he is just out of 
control. 
 

1064
01:00:51,963 --> 01:00:55,236
All of them have been there. 
So just a bad joke. 
 

1065
01:00:55,244 --> 01:00:58,210
And he's an idiot. 
Robyn and him go on the Fedora 


1066
01:00:58,218 --> 01:01:01,060
guy height. 
That's right at the same. 
 

1067
01:01:01,068 --> 01:01:02,939
Place. 
I think he's been there with all

1068
01:01:02,939 --> 01:01:05,266

 three of the other wives, so 
only fair that Meri gets 
 

1069
01:01:05,274 --> 01:01:06,898
brought, you know, and she feels
special. 
 

1070
01:01:06,906 --> 01:01:10,768
And I'm going to give Robyn 
props here because she at least 

1071
01:01:10,768 --> 01:01:14,880
 wore the right footwear. 
Wow. 
 

1072
01:01:14,888 --> 01:01:20,295
Meri is wearing clogs for 
climbing and they have a wooden 

1073
01:01:20,295 --> 01:01:23,424
 heel on them. 
They're not just some 
 

1074
01:01:23,432 --> 01:01:27,514
Birkenstock flat clogs. 
No, they are heeled wooden 
 

1075
01:01:27,522 --> 01:01:31,318
clogs. 
Straight from Sweden or wherever

1076
01:01:31,318 --> 01:01:33,040

 the hell of clogs they're 
from. 

1077
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,800
No, they're not from Sweden. 
 
Where are they? 

1078
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,760
Dutch. 
 
Dutch. 

1079
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,320
They're Dutch. 
 
Clogs. 

1080
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,360
So she's wearing her Dutch 
 
clogs, and they're going on a 

1081
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,920
hike up a place called Red Rock 
 Canyon, and I'm going Mayor, 

1082
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,280
mayor, mayor, mayor, mayor. 
 
I always thought you were a 

1083
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,040
little smarter than this. 
 
I mean, it literally was. 

1084
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,360
I was scoffing because it was 
 
ridiculous. 

1085
01:01:53,440 --> 01:02:01,680
Meri is going Oh my Oh my, he's 
 trying to get her to climb up 

1086
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,560
this thing with her clod 
 
hoppers. 

1087
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,080
Click, click, click, click. 
 
Meri has a voice over where she 

1088
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,680
says he seems to be in a good 
 
mood. 

1089
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,600
I was like, Oh my God, this is 

so good. 

1090
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,320
Meri's going into it like I'm 
 
wearing my clogs. 

1091
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,760
Kody's in a good mood. 
 
We're going to talk about this 

1092
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,400
baby decision. 
 
I've got a picnic. 

1093
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,240
Things are great. 
 
I'm wearing a scarf. 

1094
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,400
You can barely see my neck. 
 
My head is popping out of that, 

1095
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,000
looking crazy. 
 
She's on her way up the side of 

1096
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,880
that hill. 
 
Slowly but surely, she'll get 

1097
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,360
there. 
 
She'd have been better off 

1098
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,720
climbing up that thing barefoot,

 honestly. 

1099
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,200
They they show multiple moments 
 of her kind of, you know, I'm 

1100
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,760
going to, I'm going to get my 
 
OK. 

1101
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,160
I'm sturdy. 
 
I'm sturdy at the table. 

1102
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,600
My name is Mayor. 
 
I'm here, I'm here. 

1103
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,240
And it's like, OK, girl, you 
 
should have just worn some 

1104
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,800
tennis shoes, but whatever. 
 
When they finally get planted on

1105
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,440
the big rock, they sit down. 
 
I'm envisioning them sitting 

1106
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,680
crisscross applesauce. 
 
I don't think they were, but you

1107
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,880
know, they're just having a 
 
great time. 

1108
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,720
Kody throws down that blanket, 

makes it all nice and flat for 

1109
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,240
them. 
 
She's got her basket but we 

1110
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,480
don't get to see them enjoying 

their lunch because the 

1111
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,760
discussion of the baby has come 
 up before they get to eat. 

1112
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:11,000
We do get a beautiful aerial 
 
shot from up above somehow with 

1113
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,240
all the red rocks around them 
 
and them sitting on the blanket.

1114
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,080
I don't recall if they were 
 
crisscross applesauce or not, 

1115
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,040
but they did give us an aerial 

shot. 

1116
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,400
Yeah, and it is pretty. 
 
I love that part of the country.

1117
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,680
It is really pretty, yeah, and 

again, what dumb ass would wear 

1118
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,920
clogs there? 
 
But whatever, she could have 

1119
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,480
borrowed some of Robyn's 
 
sneakers. 

1120
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:35,080
She did borrow Robyn her long 
 
ass skirt for the last episode, 

1121
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,320
you know. 
 
With the hydrangeas on it. 

1122
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,720
So she could have asked for some

 tennis shoes from Robyn, but 

1123
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,160
whatever. 
 
When they start into the deep 

1124
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,192
discussion about their potential

 futures, Meri asks Kody what 

1125
01:03:47,192 --> 01:03:49,800
he thinks about this potential 
baby 
 decision. 

1126
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:55,440
She says she hopes he has an 
 
open disposition, which is a big

1127
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,640
word for her. 
 
I thought that was pretty great.

1128
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,007
And then Kody has to reply, and,

 well, that's where things take

1129
01:04:03,007 --> 01:04:06,200
a turn for even worse than the 

clogs on the side of the 

1130
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:11,880
mountain. 
 
Kody has a really weird thought 

1131
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,626
process on this and it's hard to

 follow because essentially 

1132
01:04:15,626 --> 01:04:22,167
what he's trying to do is put 
the 
 blame back on nature and 

1133
01:04:22,167 --> 01:04:26,176
God. 
He's kind of half assing saying 

1134
01:04:26,176 --> 01:04:31,282
 what he means here. 
He says that because nature or 


1135
01:04:31,290 --> 01:04:35,660
God have not blessed us with 
this and because we're not 
 

1136
01:04:35,668 --> 01:04:40,843
feeling in our gut that we 
should do it, He hams and haws 


1137
01:04:40,851 --> 01:04:45,640
and he says I will always be 
involved in this child's life. 


1138
01:04:45,648 --> 01:04:50,735
But I feel like because you have
to carry it because it's your 
 

1139
01:04:50,743 --> 01:04:55,247
body, the responsibility of the 
choice lies more on your 
 

1140
01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:58,892
shoulders. 
And he's like, I'm not trying to

1141
01:04:58,892 --> 01:05:02,600

 push it on you, but because 
you're going to have to carry 
 

1142
01:05:02,608 --> 01:05:05,280
the baby for nine months, dot 
dot, dot. 
 

1143
01:05:05,288 --> 01:05:08,410
Like we get where he's going 
with this. 
 

1144
01:05:08,418 --> 01:05:13,066
He's kind of blaming the fact 
that nature hasn't taken over or

1145
01:05:13,066 --> 01:05:16,424

 God, and she's going to have 
to carry it. 
 

1146
01:05:16,432 --> 01:05:20,252
He's like passing the buck. 
They're passing it back and 
 

1147
01:05:20,260 --> 01:05:22,468
forth here. 
This whole conversation does 
 

1148
01:05:22,476 --> 01:05:26,387
come across to me as a not 
willing to just say what you 
 

1149
01:05:26,395 --> 01:05:28,794
want to say. 
You know, it's, it reads to me 


1150
01:05:28,802 --> 01:05:31,744
from the very beginning that he 
doesn't want to do this. 
 

1151
01:05:31,752 --> 01:05:35,320
But instead of just coming out 
and saying it, he's doing this 


1152
01:05:35,328 --> 01:05:37,562
back and forth. 
God and nature. 
 

1153
01:05:37,570 --> 01:05:41,079
And you have to carry it. 
And it's a little nonsensical. 


1154
01:05:41,087 --> 01:05:45,151
He stops a few times and then 
starts in another direction. 
 

1155
01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:49,335
And he says, it's not my gut 
burning. 
 

1156
01:05:49,343 --> 01:05:52,270
It's telling me that I have to 
do this. 
 

1157
01:05:52,278 --> 01:05:56,986
It's just not in my gut. 
And then Meri kind of says 
 

1158
01:05:56,994 --> 01:05:59,280
again, well, do you want to or 
not? 
 

1159
01:05:59,288 --> 01:06:03,822
Like she's trying to get him 
just to be clear with his 
 

1160
01:06:03,830 --> 01:06:07,064
answer, and he's not giving it 
to her yet. 
 

1161
01:06:07,072 --> 01:06:12,710
And then he says, I would do it 
if nature or if God or if it 
 

1162
01:06:12,718 --> 01:06:14,869
just happened, like, yeah, no 
problem. 
 

1163
01:06:14,877 --> 01:06:19,269
Because of the stakes and the 
fact that it's not burning up in

1164
01:06:19,269 --> 01:06:23,045

 my gut to do it. 
You know what I'm saying? 
 

1165
01:06:23,053 --> 01:06:26,040
I just say no. 
Right. 
 

1166
01:06:26,048 --> 01:06:29,260
What? 
In between these sentences, he's

1167
01:06:29,260 --> 01:06:33,555

 avoiding looking Meri in the 
eyes as if her eyes have the 
 

1168
01:06:33,563 --> 01:06:36,202
plague. 
I was very attuned to his 
 

1169
01:06:36,210 --> 01:06:39,435
nonverbals in this, and he was 
looking everywhere but at her. 


1170
01:06:39,443 --> 01:06:42,415
And then when he would take a 
breath between his sentences, he

1171
01:06:42,415 --> 01:06:43,920

 would make eye contact with 
her. 

1172
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,400
And then when going back to 
 
saying things, he would look 

1173
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,960
away. 
 
He didn't actually want to look 

1174
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,847
at her while he was saying these

 unclear things that are 

1175
01:06:51,847 --> 01:06:53,895
pointing to what we already 
know. 
 

1176
01:06:53,903 --> 01:06:58,518
And at one point after he said I
would do it if nature or God 
 

1177
01:06:58,526 --> 01:07:02,495
just did it, he literally clears
his throat as if he's struggling

1178
01:07:02,495 --> 01:07:06,072

 to even say these words. 
He's having a hard time putting 

1179
01:07:06,072 --> 01:07:09,428
 the sentences together because 
he's trying to lead or mislead 


1180
01:07:09,436 --> 01:07:12,180
or do whatever. 
Just not be direct and clear 
 

1181
01:07:12,188 --> 01:07:14,000
with what he's actually thinking
and feeling. 
 

1182
01:07:14,008 --> 01:07:18,314
He keeps saying it's not burning
me up in the gut, it's not 
 

1183
01:07:18,322 --> 01:07:23,082
giving me that gut feeling and 
God in nature and I did write 
 

1184
01:07:23,090 --> 01:07:26,188
down word for word there and he 
just keeps saying that. 
 

1185
01:07:26,196 --> 01:07:29,440
And she is trying to get it out 
of him. 
 

1186
01:07:29,448 --> 01:07:34,632
And because of the stakes, like,
OK, we get it. 
 

1187
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:42,052
OK, come out and say it. 
And then Meri throws us for a 
 

1188
01:07:42,060 --> 01:07:48,583
bloop here and she says, well, 
if you want, I'm willing to do 


1189
01:07:48,591 --> 01:07:52,080
some tests. 
If that's even an option and 
 

1190
01:07:52,088 --> 01:07:54,136
Kody says what are you talking 
about? 
 

1191
01:07:54,144 --> 01:07:59,860
What do you mean? 
We have plenty of information. 


1192
01:07:59,868 --> 01:08:02,940
He is confused. 
Yeah. 
 

1193
01:08:02,948 --> 01:08:04,410
I'm. 
Confused. 
 

1194
01:08:04,418 --> 01:08:07,320
We're all confused. 
We've gone to the doctor. 
 

1195
01:08:07,328 --> 01:08:09,160
I thought we'd done the 
research. 
 

1196
01:08:09,168 --> 01:08:13,022
I thought we had done the tests.
Meri, why are you saying just 
 

1197
01:08:13,030 --> 01:08:15,650
now that you're willing to do 
the tests? 
 

1198
01:08:15,658 --> 01:08:20,237
I think she's trying to put the 
blame on Kody here, and he's not

1199
01:08:20,237 --> 01:08:23,179

 willing to take it. 
He's skirting the issue. 
 

1200
01:08:23,187 --> 01:08:27,019
They're playing the hot potato 
game, passing this back and 
 

1201
01:08:27,027 --> 01:08:30,580
forth, and neither one of them 
is just clearly coming out and 


1202
01:08:30,587 --> 01:08:32,841
saying it. 
And now she's saying that she's 

1203
01:08:32,841 --> 01:08:36,490
 willing to do some tests again.
I thought we were here to make 


1204
01:08:36,497 --> 01:08:38,545
the decision. 
And they were lying before. 
 

1205
01:08:38,553 --> 01:08:41,779
We knew they were lying before 
about the efforts that they had 

1206
01:08:41,779 --> 01:08:45,631
 made for her to get pregnant 
because of the obscure, 
 

1207
01:08:45,639 --> 01:08:49,783
generalized way that they would 
talk about the things that they 

1208
01:08:49,783 --> 01:08:51,788
 did, you know, referencing 
fertility treatments. 
 

1209
01:08:51,796 --> 01:08:55,720
And yet we're going, we've 
watched this for five years, and

1210
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,240

 you haven't had a single scene
where you're giving yourself a 


1211
01:08:58,247 --> 01:09:00,600
shot or you're even doing 
anything having to do with it. 


1212
01:09:00,608 --> 01:09:02,776
Remember when they went to that 
doctor's appointment and it 
 

1213
01:09:02,783 --> 01:09:05,260
seemed like it was their first? 
It was their first. 
 

1214
01:09:05,268 --> 01:09:07,246
It was a concentration. 
It wasn't even a real 
 

1215
01:09:07,254 --> 01:09:08,720
appointment. 
She was asking them how much 
 

1216
01:09:08,728 --> 01:09:11,441
they were fucking. 
Yeah, like she was trying to get

1217
01:09:11,441 --> 01:09:15,654

 to the brass tacks of it all. 
How often are you guys doing the

1218
01:09:15,654 --> 01:09:19,081

 deed and they didn't even want
to come out and say that? 
 

1219
01:09:19,089 --> 01:09:23,304
No, it was all a lie and a sham.
What a shock with this family. 


1220
01:09:23,312 --> 01:09:25,848
And Meri does reference 
something about egg retrieval 
 

1221
01:09:25,856 --> 01:09:28,500
when Kody asks what she's even 
talking about. 
 

1222
01:09:28,508 --> 01:09:30,796
And I didn't really follow that 
either. 
 

1223
01:09:30,804 --> 01:09:34,564
I I felt like it was very broad 
and just, I don't even know. 
 

1224
01:09:34,572 --> 01:09:37,460
He is baffled and he says I'm 
checking myself. 
 

1225
01:09:37,468 --> 01:09:41,444
I'm checking myself to see if 
I'm copping out here. 
 

1226
01:09:41,453 --> 01:09:45,466
Which, of course you are. 
Kody, that's exactly what you're

1227
01:09:45,466 --> 01:09:47,788

 doing. 
Then he says that he thinks they

1228
01:09:47,788 --> 01:09:51,189

 should just sit on a no for a 
little bit. 
 

1229
01:09:51,198 --> 01:09:59,654
So you're saying no what? 
Sit on a no for a little bit and

1230
01:09:59,654 --> 01:10:01,880

 then finally, finally Kody 
says. 

1231
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,760
Right now I'm thinking no and 
 
Meri goes. 

1232
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,120
After Kody talks about sitting 

on it for a while and that he's 

1233
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,200
finally saying no, Meri starts 

speaking. 

1234
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:21,080
She says maybe let's and Kody 
 
interrupts and says right now 

1235
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,320
I'm thinking no. 
 
And I thought it was very 

1236
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,960
telling that immediately after 

he finally provides some clarity

1237
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,000
that he's at a no, she starts 
 
doing the hot potato action. 

1238
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,560
Well, maybe let's and he goes, 

right now I'm thinking, no, he 

1239
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,200
didn't even let her finish the 

sentence, which really 

1240
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,000
demonstrates to me that he does 
 not want to be committal. 

1241
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,160
He does not want to actually say

 no. 

1242
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,160
And now he finally has, you 
 
know, he doesn't want to be 

1243
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,480
responsible for saying no. 
 
And now he finally has. 

1244
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:50,320
And so she's they're, they're 
 
just so fucked up. 

1245
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,440
This is what they do, Meri. 
 
Well, maybe blah, blah, blah. 

1246
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:57,160
And he's cut her off. 
 
No, we're not doing it and it 

1247
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,800
seems like a long term thing for

 them. 

1248
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,200
I imagine this is how so many of

 their decisions, discussions, 

1249
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,640
arguments go. 
 
Neither one of them can be very 

1250
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,600
clear. 
 
Once one of them decides to, the

1251
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,680
other one pushes back. 
 
And then in this case, it's Meri

1252
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,878
and Kody's Just no, it is done. 
 

1253
01:11:12,886 --> 01:11:17,056
Leading up to this, I thought 
Meri was going to go into this 


1254
01:11:17,064 --> 01:11:19,316
saying completely no. 
Yeah, me too. 
 

1255
01:11:19,324 --> 01:11:23,412
I think in this very moment that
Meri is changing her mind. 
 

1256
01:11:23,420 --> 01:11:27,022
Again, Yes, I think so too. 
I think we're seeing in real 
 

1257
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:29,120
time because she goes after, he 
says. 
 

1258
01:11:29,128 --> 01:11:32,504
Right now I'm thinking no, she 
goes like she's thinking. 
 

1259
01:11:32,512 --> 01:11:39,188
She puts her hand on her face 
and then it cuts to an interview

1260
01:11:39,188 --> 01:11:43,980

 moment with her. 
And she goes, I was shocked that

1261
01:11:43,980 --> 01:11:47,877

 he said that. 
He and I are just in a different

1262
01:11:47,877 --> 01:11:50,320

 place than he and all his 
other wives, you know? 
 

1263
01:11:50,328 --> 01:11:54,254
And I've got to think of where 
that place is for me now. 
 

1264
01:11:54,262 --> 01:12:00,150
And the way that she says he and
all his other wives is telling 


1265
01:12:00,158 --> 01:12:03,770
to me. 
And I think she's backtracking 


1266
01:12:03,778 --> 01:12:07,552
because she's feeling insecure 
again and she's feeling 
 

1267
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,504
displaced. 
It's just very bizarre because 


1268
01:12:10,512 --> 01:12:14,660
this whole thing, it went into 
it with a completely different 


1269
01:12:14,668 --> 01:12:18,964
feeling and I felt like she had 
made a decision that was no. 
 

1270
01:12:18,972 --> 01:12:21,314
And then all of a sudden we're 
backtracking. 
 

1271
01:12:21,322 --> 01:12:24,888
Then she's triggered into, is 
that the final thing? 
 

1272
01:12:24,896 --> 01:12:28,824
Maybe, You know, I sense that 
that's what's happening when you

1273
01:12:28,824 --> 01:12:31,240

 volunteer, like maybe no. 
And then someone confirms no, 
 

1274
01:12:31,248 --> 01:12:32,343
but you haven't made your 
choice. 
 

1275
01:12:32,351 --> 01:12:33,935
So then you're like, but, but, 
but maybe not. 
 

1276
01:12:33,943 --> 01:12:37,896
You know, that does happen. 
And I just think with them, it's

1277
01:12:37,896 --> 01:12:40,372

 such a constant. 
This just must always happen. 
 

1278
01:12:40,380 --> 01:12:44,294
They are just never going to 
truly come to this decision 
 

1279
01:12:44,302 --> 01:12:46,856
together. 
At the same time, it's like 
 

1280
01:12:46,864 --> 01:12:50,715
wrong place, wrong time 
constantly with them, with this.

1281
01:12:50,715 --> 01:12:54,120

 
And we rewound this part of the 

1282
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,920
episode so many times because it

 was so confusing. 

1283
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,600
The quotes were all over the 
 
place. 

1284
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:04,760
There were a lot of dot dot dot 
 moments, a lot of the same 

1285
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,760
things being kind of repeated in

 different ways. 

1286
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,680
It was a bizarre conversation. 

Yeah, it totally was. 

1287
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,600
After Meri's voice over 
 
interview moment, Kody says 

1288
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:20,840
let's sit on it as the no. 
 
If it's a no, are you waking up 

1289
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,160
at night crying over not having 
 a baby? 

1290
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,120
Let's sit on that. 
 
Let's sit on the no. 

1291
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,800
There's these silences, these 
 
moments between these things 

1292
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,800
that you were, you know, you 
 
were as you were talking about, 

1293
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:38,120
just kind of this uncommittal, 

undecided, but leaning No, he's 

1294
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,200
no. 
 
So I guess we're not. 

1295
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:44,840
And after he does this final, 
 
let's sit on the no. 

1296
01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:50,720
They embrace and hug. 
 
Well, there's this sad piano 

1297
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,120
music playing. 
 
They kiss and hug like they've 

1298
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,520
made a decision. 
 
Right. 

1299
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,720
And it's so weird. 
 
It's my take away was that I 

1300
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,680
guess they landed at no. 
 
Well then, Meri says. 

1301
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:07,240
Now that we've made this 
 
decision, we have to let Leon 

1302
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,600
know. 
 
Of course. 

1303
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,790
I'm like, bitch, what decision? 
 

1304
01:14:10,798 --> 01:14:14,320
No, I guess. 
Kody said no more times than he 

1305
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,413
 said yes. 
Or maybe so I guess it's a no. 


1306
01:14:16,421 --> 01:14:19,514
And now we're going to be able 
to blame Kody is what it's going

1307
01:14:19,514 --> 01:14:21,600

 to come down to. 
Oh God. 
 

1308
01:14:21,608 --> 01:14:25,619
Right. 
Well, I just so badly wish that 

1309
01:14:25,619 --> 01:14:29,780
 I could interject, push pause 
on these guys, stand next to 

1310
01:14:29,780 --> 01:14:33,220
them 
 and be like Meri. 
What Kody is saying that is that

1311
01:14:33,220 --> 01:14:36,680

 it hasn't happened naturally. 
And no, he does not want to 
 

1312
01:14:36,688 --> 01:14:38,344
intervene scientifically in your
womb. 
 

1313
01:14:38,352 --> 01:14:40,412
The answer is no. 
Right. 
 

1314
01:14:40,420 --> 01:14:44,704
Can we just clearly say this 
hasn't happened naturally for 
 

1315
01:14:44,712 --> 01:14:47,590
us? 
And so I really am leaning 
 

1316
01:14:47,598 --> 01:14:50,965
towards no. 
And I think that we need to call

1317
01:14:50,965 --> 01:14:53,543

 it. 
It's a no no for me dog. 
 

1318
01:14:53,551 --> 01:14:56,212
Well, right. 
And I think the reason that it's

1319
01:14:56,212 --> 01:14:58,660

 a no is because Kody doesn't 
love Meri. 
 

1320
01:14:58,668 --> 01:15:03,605
Kody's not in love with Meri. 
It's obvious to me in this 
 

1321
01:15:03,613 --> 01:15:06,271
scene, and maybe it's not 
obvious to other people. 
 

1322
01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:08,510
Maybe I'm jumping to too much of
a conclusion. 
 

1323
01:15:08,518 --> 01:15:12,819
I think that when Kody can't 
make eye contact with her, it's 

1324
01:15:12,819 --> 01:15:15,770
 because he is no longer in love
with her. 
 

1325
01:15:15,778 --> 01:15:20,015
I think he almost resents her. 
I think he's definitely not 
 

1326
01:15:20,023 --> 01:15:22,000
interested in reproducing with 
her. 
 

1327
01:15:22,008 --> 01:15:27,280
And another tie in to keep them 
together like a child being 
 

1328
01:15:27,288 --> 01:15:29,336
born. 
That's at least another 18 years

1329
01:15:29,336 --> 01:15:33,280

 that this is happening. 
And he is going to, from here on

1330
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,856

 out, play this dance of, well,
you need to be committed to me. 

1331
01:15:36,856 --> 01:15:38,880
 
And I do not have the same thing

1332
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,960
with you. 
 
And Meri does talk about that a 

1333
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,120
bit moving forward here, about 

where is her place, What is the 

1334
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,880
thing? 
 
And he loves that she's in that 

1335
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,280
fucking position. 
 
He does not want to be committed

1336
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,720
to her in any way other than 
 
this religious dogmatic 

1337
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,720
obligation that they have and 
 
that she brings in a paycheck. 

1338
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,120
I'm convinced of it. 
 
I know that I might sound like a

1339
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,600
conspiracy theorist in a nut 
 
job, and maybe even in our 

1340
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,040
previous episodes. 
 
I haven't hounded on it enough. 

1341
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,000
He's not in love with her. 
 
I don't think he's in love with 

1342
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,280
her. 
 
I think he fell out of love with

1343
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,840
her a while ago. 
 
I would also add that there's a 

1344
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,840
financial aspect here that if 
 
you get science involved and if 

1345
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,680
you do the in vitro route, we 
 
know that they're not on any 

1346
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,360
sort of insurance through 
 
somebody's employer, right? 

1347
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,640
I guess we don't know that, but 
 they're probably paying out the

1348
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,560
ass for insurance and he is 
 
thinking this would all be out 

1349
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,040
of pocket. 
 
This doesn't financially make 

1350
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,680
sense. 
 
And to top it off, I have 

1351
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,320
someone else with a perfectly 
 
good womb. 

1352
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,560
Why would I be doing this with 

you and spending all this money?

1353
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,200
I can go and have another baby 

with Robyn. 

1354
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,280
This is part of the whole 
 
preview that we've been seeing 

1355
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,040
of him falling out of love, 
 
quote, UN quote with all of his 

1356
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,000
other wives because he's got 
 
Robyn. 

1357
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,560
And maybe with the other ones, 

we haven't seen it so abruptly 

1358
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,640
or it hasn't made such an impact

 to me. 

1359
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,480
But to me, this is a big one 
 
going, yeah, he doesn't love 

1360
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:08,440
you. 
 
I don't think he was talking to 

1361
01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:10,000
her as if he was in love with 
 
her. 

1362
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,640
This conversation was not 
 
married people in love. 

1363
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,920
And we've joked about Meri 
 
having her conversations with 

1364
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,080
other people. 
 
I think ultimately she's OK with

1365
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,960
this decision, but I think she 

needs to play the card of not 

1366
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:27,840
being OK with it. 100%, yeah. 
 
She can put the blame elsewhere 

1367
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,240
now. 
 
He finally came out and said it.

1368
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,160
She doesn't have to be the bad 

guy when it comes to Leon. 

1369
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,800
She doesn't have to be the bad 

guy when it comes to other 

1370
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,320
wives. 
 
We're going to find out real 

1371
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,680
quickly here that she's already 
 blaming him, Meri. 

1372
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,280
In a recent episode where you 
 
asked, oh, is this teeing up so 

1373
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,400
that we can have another 
 
disappointment for Leon? 

1374
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,240
Well, here we go girl. 
 
You called it and here it is. 

1375
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:57,040
Yeah, Meri says that Kody's 
 
reasons make complete sense. 

1376
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,720
It just makes me kind of sad, 
 
like, you know, all right, it's 

1377
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,960
done. 
 
Yeah. 

1378
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,280
I think we all knew. 
 
And you knew it was done long 

1379
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,480
before hiking your clogged ass 

up to the top of these red 

1380
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,520
rocks. 
 
OK. 

1381
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:19,360
We didn't need to see hoof it up

 there to get this decision. 

1382
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,720
Maybe if she would have shown a 
 little, you know, collarbone or

1383
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,840
a little wrist action she could 
 have. 

1384
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,480
Ankle on top of them Claws this 
 is. 

1385
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,400
It she could have reminded him 

of what he used to have. 

1386
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,320
Imagine seeing her from behind 

in these clogs. 

1387
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:37,240
Like just hoofing it up there 
 
vertically. 

1388
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:38,840
Oh, mayor. 
 
Oh. 

1389
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,320
Poor thing. 
 
She also says that I'm hoping 

1390
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,160
this is time to recreate our 
 
relationship and figure out who 

1391
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,960
we are now. 
 
So she's using the talking 

1392
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,920
points of what the next steps 
 
are and she's wrestling with the

1393
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,960
empty nest stuff and all of 
 
these things. 

1394
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,400
It's almost like she's got a 
 
matrix of decisions and what 

1395
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:02,400
they mean, and she's trying to 

play the I'm not just making any

1396
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,160
decisions on any of them. 
 
I'm a victim. 

1397
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,480
No matter what happens. 
 
I'm trying to figure it all out.

1398
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,560
Meanwhile, I don't know that 
 
she's so indecisive. 

1399
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,440
I think she just likes playing 

that role in this situation. 

1400
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,680
Because now she gets to play the

 victim. 

1401
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,360
Yeah, and now she gets to play 

the blame game when it comes to 

1402
01:19:19,480 --> 01:19:23,120
Leon's disappointment. 
 
And as you said, talking to the 

1403
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,200
other wives. 
 
And so now we get to have that 

1404
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,960
conversation, the first one we 

get to see with our dear love 

1405
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:33,400
Robyn, her good friend Robyn, 
 
her closest sister, wife Robyn. 

1406
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:37,874
Yeah, we go to Robyn's house and

 Robyn is walking over to 

1407
01:19:37,874 --> 01:19:40,770
Meri's. 
Strolling across the street. 
 

1408
01:19:40,778 --> 01:19:44,840
Going to have a conversation. 
Meri called her up and wanted to

1409
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,812

 talk. 
Yep, I wrote this down. 
 

1410
01:19:46,820 --> 01:19:50,072
Going to walk over there and 
have a little talk. 
 

1411
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,382
I just don't even get it. 
I'm like going to walk over 
 

1412
01:19:53,390 --> 01:19:55,984
there and have a little talk. 
Why was this necessary? 
 

1413
01:19:55,992 --> 01:19:59,404
Why is this in there? 
Why do they keep these lines in 

1414
01:19:59,404 --> 01:20:02,518
 from these people? 
I guess it's because, like you 


1415
01:20:02,526 --> 01:20:05,080
said, maybe she never has 
anything good to say ever. 
 

1416
01:20:05,088 --> 01:20:06,930
And so they're probably 
prompting her. 
 

1417
01:20:06,938 --> 01:20:08,915
Robyn, what are you doing right 
now? 
 

1418
01:20:08,923 --> 01:20:12,894
And she says, going to walk over
there and have a little talk. 
 

1419
01:20:12,902 --> 01:20:15,956
What the fuck? 
Oh my God. 
 

1420
01:20:15,964 --> 01:20:20,280
We have to get the flashback to 
the offer of surrogacy though. 


1421
01:20:20,288 --> 01:20:27,320
Oh God, we have to get the sepia
flashback to Robyn laying in her

1422
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:32,608

 maternity bed all puffy faced 
after giving birth to baby Saul.

1423
01:20:32,608 --> 01:20:35,040

 
And oh, I have to catch you, 

1424
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:39,600
Meri, while you're all emotional

 and I'm all emotional and I'm 

1425
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,280
going to offer my. 
 
Womb, we can take a part of you 

1426
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:48,120
and a part of Kody and put it 
 
inside of me and God can make it

1427
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:52,160
grow into a beautiful baby. 
 
OK, she didn't say that, but she

1428
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,760
did say a part of Kody and a 
 
part of Meri together something,

1429
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,080
and it was disturbing, very 
 
disturbing. 

1430
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,087
Oh, Meri feels that she owes it 
 to Robyn to have this 

1431
01:21:02,087 --> 01:21:04,400
discussion with her. 
 
Because they have such a close 

1432
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:06,640
relationship. 
 
Yes, she says. 

1433
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,000
I figured I should tell you 
 
about our conversation. 

1434
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:15,080
So Kody and I have talked and 
 
we've mutually decided to not go

1435
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,880
forward with it. 
 
Before she tells Robyn that in 

1436
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,160
her voice over moment, she says 
 it would have been kind of cool

1437
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,040
to raise kids together and I 
 
once again would have been kind 

1438
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,040
of cool. 
 
Bitch, what are you doing? 

1439
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,440
Oh my God, it's like she's 17 or

 that. 

1440
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,360
No, no, no, she's 14. 
 
Pregnancy Pack. 

1441
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,560
It would be kind of cool if we 

raise children together. 

1442
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,040
Oh my God. 
 
Which we've talked about before.

1443
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,840
Like, aren't you? 
 
Isn't that what you're doing? 

1444
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,840
Isn't that what you and all the 
 other wives are doing with all 

1445
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,000
of your 17 children? 
 
Raising them together? 

1446
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,320
It's hard with that ungrateful 

Brett Leon. 

1447
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:57,440
But then Meri kind of goes 
 
backwards in what she literally 

1448
01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:03,086
just said, and she says she went

 up there, oh, on this hike 

1449
01:22:03,086 --> 01:22:09,440
with intentions of starting 
 
proceedings, but Kody basically 

1450
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:12,280
said no. 
 
Robyn goes to through the 

1451
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,120
conversation you are feeling and

 Meri cuts her off. 

1452
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,360
He said no. 
 
And then there's a Dun Dun. 

1453
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,920
And there's multiple 
 
interruptions in these 

1454
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,280
conversations, which I think are

 so interesting because they 

1455
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,040
don't allow each other to 
 
actually finish their thoughts 

1456
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,800
so they can imply what a 
 
conclusion could be or usher 

1457
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,920
them to a decision. 
 
And it's just bizarre. 

1458
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,760
Robyn, he said no. 
 
It's like we're watching a bad 

1459
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:42,600
sitcom that was written with 
 
nobody in the know and we're 

1460
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:47,400
just the omniscient character 
 
watching this play out and no 

1461
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,200
one's on the same page ever. 
 
Absolutely, Absolutely. 

1462
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,880
What is happening? 
 
Is this real life? 

1463
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,600
It's supposed to be reality TV, 
 apparently. 

1464
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,480
I do really think that this is 

their reality, that they 

1465
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:07,680
communicate that little oh God 

that now Meri is going and 

1466
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,120
saying, well, I went up there 
 
and I was going to say yes and 

1467
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:16,320
now Kody. 
 
He said no, as if you don't know

1468
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,040
what Kody was going to say. 
 
Robyn. 

1469
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:19,880
Oh. 
 
Robyn had no idea what Kody was 

1470
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,840
going to say. 
 
Oh, I believe that. 

1471
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,480
Please. 
 
So after Robyn interrupts by 

1472
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:29,480
asking if he said no and Meri 
 
says yes, Robyn asks if she 

1473
01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:31,598
thinks this is the right answer.

 

1474
01:23:31,606 --> 01:23:34,808
And because you know, these 
people are just, they have such 

1475
01:23:34,808 --> 01:23:38,004
 a way with words. 
Meri says I don't know, it just 

1476
01:23:38,004 --> 01:23:42,500
 is what it is right now. 
So once again, no real 
 

1477
01:23:42,508 --> 01:23:45,027
direction, no confirmation or 
affirmation. 
 

1478
01:23:45,035 --> 01:23:50,328
It just is what it is right now.
And this is where we get another

1479
01:23:50,328 --> 01:23:54,384

 voice over for Meri. 
Meri says that if it wasn't just

1480
01:23:54,384 --> 01:23:58,866

 her and if it was her and Kody
being empty nesters together it 

1481
01:23:58,866 --> 01:24:02,828
 would be different, but she is 
the empty nester alone. 
 

1482
01:24:02,836 --> 01:24:07,200
And then we go back to Robyn and
Robyn says. 
 

1483
01:24:07,208 --> 01:24:12,080
I feel like I dragged something 
up when I offered. 
 

1484
01:24:12,088 --> 01:24:16,650
I feel like you guys had kind of
let it go. 
 

1485
01:24:16,658 --> 01:24:22,052
I'm sorry if I did. 
And I didn't know if this was 
 

1486
01:24:22,060 --> 01:24:24,408
authentic or not. 
What was your take? 
 

1487
01:24:24,416 --> 01:24:27,670
Because I was, I, I never really
believed Robyn. 
 

1488
01:24:27,678 --> 01:24:30,730
But then when she was talking, 
I'm going, does she really feel 

1489
01:24:30,730 --> 01:24:33,300
 bad about bringing this up? 
Because a normal person would 
 

1490
01:24:33,308 --> 01:24:35,608
feel bad if they genuinely 
thought, oh, I thought you guys 

1491
01:24:35,608 --> 01:24:37,156
 put this to bed. 
I thought it was to rest. 
 

1492
01:24:37,164 --> 01:24:39,455
And now I brought it up and 
you've been going back and forth

1493
01:24:39,455 --> 01:24:41,040

 and now you're obviously in 
pain. 
 

1494
01:24:41,048 --> 01:24:43,992
You're hurt, you know. 
What did you think? 
 

1495
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,440
Yeah, I think it's so 
disingenuous because Robyn keeps

1496
01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:50,940

 doing this facial expression 
where she's, like, pulling back 

1497
01:24:50,940 --> 01:24:52,880
 and kind of like, grimacing. 
Yeah. 
 

1498
01:24:52,888 --> 01:24:56,030
Like she can't handle Meri's 
emotion because Meri is crying 


1499
01:24:56,038 --> 01:24:57,300
at this point. 
Yeah. 
 

1500
01:24:57,308 --> 01:24:59,796
Yeah. 
And you know, we all know how 
 

1501
01:24:59,804 --> 01:25:02,620
pretty of a crier Meri is. 
And. 
 

1502
01:25:02,628 --> 01:25:04,372
Just like me. 
Right. 
 

1503
01:25:04,380 --> 01:25:07,496
We can just tell that Robyn's 
uncomfortable and she's like, 
 

1504
01:25:07,504 --> 01:25:10,104
oh, I feel like I drug something
up. 
 

1505
01:25:10,112 --> 01:25:14,174
Oh, I'm so sorry. 
OK, OK. 
 

1506
01:25:14,182 --> 01:25:18,912
She's cringing backwards and 
making this grimace face as if 


1507
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,776
she's uncomfortable with the 
emotion and Meri's crying. 
 

1508
01:25:21,784 --> 01:25:26,862
And she says a part of me thinks
that it would have been really 


1509
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:31,739
cool, but like talking about how
it would have been cool to raise

1510
01:25:31,739 --> 01:25:33,320

 kids together again, Meri 
goes. 

1511
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,960
But you know, I just don't ever 
 do what everyone else does. 

1512
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,400
And I don't do the cool thing 
 
just to do the cool thing. 

1513
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,680
Because in their family, the 
 
cool thing is to push out as 

1514
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,400
many babies as you can, you 
 
know? 

1515
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,200
They talk about praying here and

 Robyn asks her if she's preyed

1516
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:54,720
on it, if she's prayed to feel 

something at all, and Meri says 

1517
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,240
I've prayed to feel something 
 
and I just don't. 

1518
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,240
Meri also talks about how she 
 
didn't want to have another baby

1519
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,400
just to replace Leon. 
 
You know, another supporting 

1520
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,760
bullet point of trying to avoid 
 the empty nest whatnot. 

1521
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,240
And before Robyn had apologized 
 to bringing up the surrogacy, 

1522
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:15,240
she even references how with the

 Kody not being an empty nester

1523
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:20,160
and she is, that he's raising 
 
kids with his other wives. 

1524
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:24,280
So another call in to how Kody 

has babies and children with his

1525
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:28,080
other wives and she doesn't and 
 she's doing this empty nest 

1526
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,920
thing and he isn't. 
 
And so it's a divide for them. 

1527
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:33,480
But it doesn't have to be that 

way. 

1528
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:37,320
And it bothers me because now 
 
you've got all these freaking 

1529
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:41,080
rooms that you had to have. 
 
You could have those kids over. 

1530
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,160
You could have sleepovers at 
 
your house. 

1531
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,480
Leon could be away at college. 

And you can say to the little 

1532
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:48,920
girls, let's have a little girl 
 sleepover. 

1533
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,760
Let's have a popcorn movie 
 
night. 

1534
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,400
She's got that loft and that 
 
video game console up there. 

1535
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:55,120
They were already up there at 
 
one point. 

1536
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,000
Have it a weekly thing, have it 
 every other day. 

1537
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,440
Do it as much as you want. 
 
You're not going to have to be 

1538
01:27:00,440 --> 01:27:03,360
an empty nester, and that's the 
 whole point of being a sister 

1539
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,160
wife, isn't it? 
 
Thought so. 

1540
01:27:05,480 --> 01:27:07,640
Well, one of, you know, yes. 
 
Raising the kids. 

1541
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,880
And then when you're an empty 
 
nester, you have a companion 

1542
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,000
that's not your husband. 
 
Yeah. 

1543
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:15,480
Kody's mom, stepmom, his dad's 

sister, wives, whatever. 

1544
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,840
Refer to how they are good 
 
friends now that they had their 

1545
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,400
problems and challenges with 
 
Kody's dad and starting a 

1546
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:24,400
polygamous family. 
 
And then there was the 

1547
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,720
children's stuff. 
 
And then when all that changes, 

1548
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,760
they all of a sudden have these 
 dynamics that are close 

1549
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,880
friendships. 
 
So working on your relationships

1550
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,560
with the other sister wives and 
 embracing their children and 

1551
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,640
treating them as your own are 
 
the big things we thought. 

1552
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,000
I thought that you were all 
 
going to live as Golden Girls 

1553
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,560
when this was said and done, you

 know? 

1554
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:45,560
Which ones? 
 
Meri. 

1555
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:51,600
Meri's definitely the Dorothy. 

For sure, Oh my gosh. 

1556
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,080
Sorry to say it, Dorothy. 
 
Sorry Dorothy, I love Dorothy. 

1557
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,840
And so it's like, oh God, sorry 
 honey, but it's. 

1558
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,080
True. 
 
Oh gosh. 

1559
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,000
Robyn's the Blanche. 
 
Oh. 

1560
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,600
God, the little hussy. 
 
Of course. 

1561
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,240
But Robyn could also be the no 

roses to like, well, natured. 

1562
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,360
She's just a little dingy. 
 
She's Christine. 

1563
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:12,240
Christine for sure. 
 
Yes, and I guess that means 

1564
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,560
Janelle is. 
 
Of course. 

1565
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,680
Oh yeah, totally, totally. 
 
Wise know it all right, Wise 

1566
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,960
cracking behind the backs, you 

know. 

1567
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,520
The cackle, the head throwback 

with the laugh that's very, very

1568
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,120
Sophia Go. 
 
Sicily. 

1569
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:33,200
Yes, yes, picture it. 
 
Picture it. 2013 Red Rock 

1570
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:37,160
Canyon. 
 
So silly. 

1571
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:41,320
I'm loving it, goodness. 
 
But as Meri, you know, continues

1572
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,640
to share her feelings, Robyn 
 
tries to reassure her. 

1573
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,600
But I, I just got a bunch of 
 
gobbledygook. 

1574
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,160
I was like, Oh my God, Robyn, 
 
you just keep talking and it's a

1575
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,760
bunch of nothing. 
 
I don't know. 

1576
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,480
Did any of it mean? 
 
Did any of it mean anything 

1577
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:58,320
beyond her apologizing for the 

offering of surrogacy? 

1578
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,240
No, she doesn't even rub her 
 
back or anything like she's done

1579
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,760
before, Right? 
 
They're very distant. 

1580
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,600
Meri's even sitting in a chair, 
 I believe, and Robyn's sitting 

1581
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,280
on a couch. 
 
And yeah. 

1582
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:14,880
There is no sense of their 
 
friendship here. 

1583
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,720
I agree. 
 
It's a weird interaction and 

1584
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,080
Robyn's literally cringing 
 
through it. 

1585
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,560
Faux reassuring her and it's 
 
ridiculous. 

1586
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,320
Meri says at one point I'm on a 
 different level. 

1587
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,440
I don't want to have a child 
 
just to feel included. 

1588
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,720
Yeah, that's not a good reason 

to have a child. 

1589
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,080
Totally. 
 
And Meri wraps up that 

1590
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,640
conversation by saying, anyway, 
 that's where I am right now. 

1591
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:46,840
OK. 
 
And. 

1592
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:48,960
It's so. 
 
I don't know. 

1593
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,280
I'm from the Midwest. 
 
It sounds like the way my dad 

1594
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,520
would end a conversation, let's 
 say there's some sort of 

1595
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,960
dispute, maybe I'm being 
 
reprimanded and I'm 1614, 

1596
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,160
whatever. 
 
Anyway, that's where I am right 

1597
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,080
now. 
 
Just kind of like, that's the 

1598
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,000
end, I guess. 
 
Like we're just done now and 

1599
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,360
that's that. 
 
OK. 

1600
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,000
Yeah. 
 
Wrapping up production was 

1601
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,600
tapping on the watch. 
 
Like, come on, you're not even 

1602
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:10,920
sitting by each other. 
 
We got to wrap it up. 

1603
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,320
Well it just makes it feel 
 
disingenuous that she was even 

1604
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:20,880
crying because OK, to me saying 
 and ending it that way just 

1605
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,760
means that you already had come 
 to this conclusion, so why are 

1606
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,360
you lying now and saying that 
 
Kody is the one that did it and 

1607
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,880
you had gone into it with a 
 
different mindset? 

1608
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,680
It's just not adding up. 
 
It's just fishy. 

1609
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,080
She cannot pick Elaine. 
 
She cannot pick Elaine. 

1610
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:40,680
So after this lovely scene 
 
between two close sister wives 

1611
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,320
comes where where we we're 
 
going. 

1612
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:43,800
They're close and their sister 

wives like what? 

1613
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,760
It comes to an end. 
 
And of course, we get to end the

1614
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:51,240
episode with Kody. 
 
Well, actually there's Kody and 

1615
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,360
then there's Meri. 
 
But Kody has to give us a 

1616
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,440
wonderful sound bite as we're 
 
ushered into the end of this 

1617
01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:59,560
episode. 
 
Oh God, this one's, this one's 

1618
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:00,600
real. 
 
This one's real. 

1619
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,640
This one's a doozy. 
 
This one's a doozy, honey. 

1620
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,960
Why don't, why don't you get us 
 started and I'll, I'll pick it 

1621
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,360
up when you when the man has to 
 take over, OK? 

1622
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:15,240
Kody says the great thing about 
 being human and for her, the 

1623
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:21,560
great thing about being a woman 
 is that she can change her mind

1624
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,360
a million times. 
 
And I'm just going to say, hey, 

1625
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:27,240
I like it that way. 
 
Oh. 

1626
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,800
My God, it is so Shania Twain. 

Shania Twain, motherfucker. 

1627
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,600
Shit, I did not even notice 
 
that. 

1628
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,880
Of course, it stood out to me 
 
that he had to emphasize that 

1629
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,360
because she's a woman, that she 
 could change her mind a million

1630
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,640
times and that he was just going

 to have to say hey. 

1631
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,200
I like it that. 
 
Way. 

1632
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:50,120
I wonder if he really was 
 
inspired by Shania Twain with 

1633
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,320
that. 
 
Seriously, that's so crazy. 

1634
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,040
Seriously, I wrote. 
 
OK, Shania. 

1635
01:31:56,040 --> 01:32:00,800
Oh my God that is straight up 
 
lyrics from a fucking pop song. 

1636
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:05,280
That is insane, Wow. 
 
He has a way with words. 

1637
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,200
He really? 
 
Does I didn't know he wrote that

1638
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,760
song but. 
 
Shania should give him a little 

1639
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,000
nod. 
 
I just want to see Kody in that 

1640
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,520
leopard print, you know that. 
 
That don't impress me much. 

1641
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,240
That look from when she's in the

 desert. 

1642
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,520
I. 
 
Literally have that costume. 

1643
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,720
I was her for Halloween. 
 
One year, that's right, that's 

1644
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:23,920
right. 
 
It would definitely one up the 

1645
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:24,962
apron look from earlier in the. 
 

1646
01:32:24,970 --> 01:32:27,878
Episode we're going to put you 
in that costume and that's going

1647
01:32:27,878 --> 01:32:30,880

 to be a Patreon exclusive. 
Chris in the Shania. 
 

1648
01:32:30,888 --> 01:32:34,160
Costume with the leg, honey. 
Just one more month or two of 
 

1649
01:32:34,168 --> 01:32:36,218
these extreme workouts I'm 
dealing and I'll be ready for 
 

1650
01:32:36,226 --> 01:32:38,869
it. 
I'll be skinny as a needle. 
 

1651
01:32:38,877 --> 01:32:42,215
Oh. 
And this is where Meri helps us 

1652
01:32:42,215 --> 01:32:44,240
 wrap up this episode, this 
touching episode where 
 

1653
01:32:44,248 --> 01:32:48,142
apparently we made a decision. 
She wonders what her value is to

1654
01:32:48,142 --> 01:32:52,438

 the family now that she's not 
going to have another baby. 
 

1655
01:32:52,446 --> 01:32:56,660
And I thought, Meri, it's called
a paycheck. 
 

1656
01:32:56,668 --> 01:33:00,800
Yeah, what value am I bringing 
to the family now? 
 

1657
01:33:00,808 --> 01:33:05,600
Helping raise the other kids. 
What you would think? 
 

1658
01:33:05,608 --> 01:33:09,440
Bringing in that bacon. 
Bringing in the bacon. 
 

1659
01:33:09,448 --> 01:33:12,490
That's that's definitely #1 
crafting, crafting, standing 
 

1660
01:33:12,498 --> 01:33:18,298
over people while they're doing 
tasks and directing them member.

1661
01:33:18,298 --> 01:33:19,520

 
Unclogging sinks. 

1662
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,680
If you want something done 
 
right, have Meri stand over you 

1663
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,480
and watch. 
 
That's what I always say. 

1664
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,680
You know, we need Meri, we need 
 you here to supervise and 

1665
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,080
everybody knows that to move 
 
furniture, right? 

1666
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,520
She has so many reasons to be in

 this family and, and, and 

1667
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,840
justifiable reasons. 
 
Well, that's how that episode 

1668
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,280
ends. 
 
We get the Next up on. 

1669
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,760
The Next up on we rarely talk 
 
about the Next up on. 

1670
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,800
So honey, I have a feeling you 

have something up your sleeve. 

1671
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,648
We have to talk about this one. 
 

1672
01:33:48,656 --> 01:33:53,344
We are going to get the panel on
polygamy episode next, and we 
 

1673
01:33:53,352 --> 01:33:58,252
hear a little bit about how 
Christine's aunt is going to be 

1674
01:33:58,252 --> 01:34:01,300
 there and how she's completely 
against polygamy. 
 

1675
01:34:01,308 --> 01:34:08,170
But for current time's sake, I 
noticed that we have a little 
 

1676
01:34:08,178 --> 01:34:13,456
person on that panel named 
Christine Marie, and she is the 

1677
01:34:13,456 --> 01:34:18,348
 woman behind the Netflix 
documentary Trust Me, the False 

1678
01:34:18,348 --> 01:34:21,840
 Prophet about Samuel Bateman 
that just came out. 
 

1679
01:34:21,848 --> 01:34:23,407
That's right, which I enjoyed 
watching. 
 

1680
01:34:23,415 --> 01:34:27,352
I thought it was good. 
It was good and I wanted to look

1681
01:34:27,352 --> 01:34:29,680

 here at the timeline of 
things. 

1682
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,320
Trust me. 
 
The False Prophet was filmed 

1683
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:38,160
from 20/21 to 20/22. 
 
It was released this year, 2026.

1684
01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:44,760
This panel episode aired 
 
September 15th of 2013, so 

1685
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:50,120
almost 10 full years that 
 
Christine Marie has been working

1686
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,160
behind the scenes. 
 
Right, doing all of the. 

1687
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,760
Doing all of this work. 
 
Yeah, at least that much time. 

1688
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,840
At least, yeah. 
 
And we get a return of blonde 

1689
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,280
haired beauty with the extreme 

makeup and looks. 

1690
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,880
Our favorite makeup artist, 
 
Colleen. 

1691
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,480
Colleen. 
 
Oh, an inspiration to all. 

1692
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,920
I'm looking forward to this 
 
episode because it's pretty 

1693
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,240
good. 
 
It's pretty good. 

1694
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:17,120
I've never seen it. 
 
I'm looking forward to it. 

1695
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,480
Oh yeah, Christine's reaction to

 her aunt girl. 

1696
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,320
Oh, I can't wait. 
 
Trust we're going to need a 

1697
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:22,960
drink for this. 
 
One cannot wait. 

1698
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,400
It's a whole thing. 
 
It's a whole. 

1699
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:25,880
Thing, yes. 
 
How exciting. 

1700
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,120
Well, we made it through this 
 
one. 

1701
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,760
We we find. 
 
Are we going to put Meri's baby 

1702
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,120
decision to rest? 
 
Are we going to bury it in the 

1703
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,520
backyard with Drake? 
 
With the bag. 

1704
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:40,760
Oh yeah, and with the Igloo. 
 
Cooler, cooler, cooler, all the 

1705
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,720
things that get buried in this 

family's backyard along with 

1706
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:48,920
Meri's baby decision. 
 
Sorry Mayor, you know what time 

1707
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,800
it is, darling. 
 
Mustard seed and shit stain. 

1708
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:55,040
Which one do you want to start 

with? 

1709
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,120
Are you feeling high or are you 
 feeling low? 

1710
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:02,080
I think that this time around 
 
I'm going to start with my shit 

1711
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:03,520
stain. 
 
Love it. 

1712
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,800
And it's going to go to Meri. 
 
OK. 

1713
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:13,853
It might be a little surprising,

 but I think that Meri went 

1714
01:36:13,853 --> 01:36:20,420
into the baby decision with her 
mind, 
 made-up one way and 

1715
01:36:20,420 --> 01:36:24,590
flipped it to play the victim 
card. 
 

1716
01:36:24,598 --> 01:36:30,656
Yeah, most likely to get out of 
being blamed by Leon. 
 

1717
01:36:30,664 --> 01:36:34,262
Sure. 
And the rest of the family. 
 

1718
01:36:34,270 --> 01:36:39,640
And the wishy washyness and the 
pretending I can't get behind 
 

1719
01:36:39,648 --> 01:36:42,369
it. 
Yeah, we're six seasons in. 
 

1720
01:36:42,377 --> 01:36:47,038
You cannot tell me that at this 
point you really, truly thought 

1721
01:36:47,038 --> 01:36:52,318
 you were going to sit your 
clogged ass down on the top of 


1722
01:36:52,326 --> 01:36:58,740
those red rocks and say, let's 
start in vitro or let's start 
 

1723
01:36:58,748 --> 01:37:03,560
the medical proceedings for my 
womb, bitch. 
 

1724
01:37:03,568 --> 01:37:05,380
No. 
Yeah, Yeah. 
 

1725
01:37:05,388 --> 01:37:09,820
You cannot convince me that that
was what you were actually 
 

1726
01:37:09,828 --> 01:37:12,334
thinking until he opened his 
fucking mouth. 
 

1727
01:37:12,342 --> 01:37:13,420
Right. 
Agreed. 
 

1728
01:37:13,428 --> 01:37:15,220
Agreed. 
And apparently they'd already 
 

1729
01:37:15,228 --> 01:37:18,600
gone through those processes. 
So at best she's a liar. 
 

1730
01:37:18,608 --> 01:37:21,100
And that's at best. 
It's just going to be simple 
 

1731
01:37:21,108 --> 01:37:23,624
cleaning cut for me this time 
around and that's that. 
 

1732
01:37:23,632 --> 01:37:27,045
I can't with this back and forth
with them anymore. 
 

1733
01:37:27,053 --> 01:37:29,150
We're fucking done with it. 
Please. 
 

1734
01:37:29,158 --> 01:37:33,254
Yes, I heard a round of applause
out in the distance. 
 

1735
01:37:33,262 --> 01:37:36,424
Everyone agrees. 
Yeah, my shit stain goes to her 

1736
01:37:36,424 --> 01:37:40,104
 loving husband Kody Brown. 
And pretty cut and dry for me 
 

1737
01:37:40,112 --> 01:37:45,104
this episode as well. 
The necklaces idea, Trash fresh,

1738
01:37:45,104 --> 01:37:48,515

 absolutely horrible. 
Thank God Mike and Mindy or 
 

1739
01:37:48,523 --> 01:37:52,332
whoever the hell their names 
were, Melissa and Matthew, 
 

1740
01:37:52,340 --> 01:37:55,920
whatever Something Enterprises 
people were there because they 


1741
01:37:55,928 --> 01:37:58,940
helped him at least navigate 
that a little bit. 
 

1742
01:37:58,948 --> 01:38:01,550
Unfortunately, they also did 
bring them to a family friendly 

1743
01:38:01,550 --> 01:38:04,355
 casino to sell their wholesale 
jewelry in one store as an 
 

1744
01:38:04,363 --> 01:38:05,641
exclusive. 
I don't know. 
 

1745
01:38:05,649 --> 01:38:09,160
I don't know, but Kody's buying 
it all and Kody sucks. 
 

1746
01:38:09,168 --> 01:38:12,584
So the necklaces are terrible. 
But obviously the conversation 


1747
01:38:12,592 --> 01:38:16,481
with Meri with the baby decision
to not be able to look your 
 

1748
01:38:16,489 --> 01:38:21,120
spouse in the eye and have an 
honest conversation about how 
 

1749
01:38:21,128 --> 01:38:25,280
you're feeling about reproducing
and bringing another life into 


1750
01:38:25,288 --> 01:38:30,043
the world is pretty scummy. 
And I think, as I said earlier, 

1751
01:38:30,043 --> 01:38:33,192
 I think he's not even in love 
with her anymore. 
 

1752
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,440
I think he doesn't know what to 
do with her. 
 

1753
01:38:35,448 --> 01:38:39,068
I think he actually, the vibe, 
to me feels like he's almost 
 

1754
01:38:39,076 --> 01:38:42,470
irritated with her. 
And so he was just playing along

1755
01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:44,810

 because this was probably a 
storyline brought up by 
 

1756
01:38:44,818 --> 01:38:46,400
producers that needed to be 
dragged out. 
 

1757
01:38:46,408 --> 01:38:51,202
And now it's coming to an end 
and he finally had to say no. 
 

1758
01:38:51,210 --> 01:38:56,983
And it was the weirdest no to 
get to because he can't be 
 

1759
01:38:56,991 --> 01:38:59,400
decisive. 
He doesn't want to disappoint 
 

1760
01:38:59,408 --> 01:39:01,960
her on camera. 
I don't know if they were off 
 

1761
01:39:01,968 --> 01:39:02,900
camera if it would have been 
different. 
 

1762
01:39:02,908 --> 01:39:05,225
If they were off camera, none of
this would even be happening. 
 

1763
01:39:05,233 --> 01:39:06,810
So I don't know why I'm even 
posing that. 
 

1764
01:39:06,818 --> 01:39:11,398
Kody, you are a shit stain. 
Yeah, why couldn't he even 
 

1765
01:39:11,406 --> 01:39:17,092
clearly just say what he was 
alluding to and just say, well, 

1766
01:39:17,092 --> 01:39:21,822
 it did not happen naturally? 
God is obviously not on our side

1767
01:39:21,822 --> 01:39:25,807

 with this, and I wish that it 
had happened naturally, but it 


1768
01:39:25,815 --> 01:39:28,516
hasn't. 
So no, I don't want to get 
 

1769
01:39:28,524 --> 01:39:31,800
science involved, right? 
If that is truly your religious 

1770
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:36,312
 beliefs, why not just come out 
and say that and just say no and

1771
01:39:36,312 --> 01:39:39,676

 just use that as your excuse? 
Yeah, because he doesn't want to

1772
01:39:39,676 --> 01:39:42,176

 have a baby with No, he 
doesn't love her. 
 

1773
01:39:42,184 --> 01:39:43,600
God, it's so. 
Messy. 
 

1774
01:39:43,608 --> 01:39:46,880
I know, I know. 
And the signs are becoming more 

1775
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,063
 and more clear. 
The Reds are more red, the green

1776
01:39:49,063 --> 01:39:52,235

 is more green, and in Meri and
Kody's case, the yellow is very 

1777
01:39:52,235 --> 01:39:54,889
 yellow. 
It's like you speed up or do you

1778
01:39:54,889 --> 01:39:58,682

 stop? 
Kody finally said no, and fuck 


1779
01:39:58,690 --> 01:40:02,245
him for that. 
Now your mustard seed, honey, 
 

1780
01:40:02,253 --> 01:40:04,428
everyone's waiting for the 
mustard seed. 
 

1781
01:40:04,436 --> 01:40:07,120
Everybody's waiting for the 
mustard seed. 
 

1782
01:40:07,128 --> 01:40:09,450
Everybody's waiting for the 
mustard seed. 
 

1783
01:40:09,458 --> 01:40:13,355
Can I give my mustard seed to 
somebody? 
 

1784
01:40:13,363 --> 01:40:16,200
Weird this time because I don't 
really think anyone deserved. 
 

1785
01:40:16,208 --> 01:40:17,720
It. 
Sure. 
 

1786
01:40:17,728 --> 01:40:21,754
There's nothing splendid going 
on here that I'm like, oh, you. 

1787
01:40:21,754 --> 01:40:22,960
 
Yeah, you deserve it. 

1788
01:40:23,480 --> 01:40:30,200
I'm going to give it to Gina 
 
because this poor woman, they 

1789
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,960
tried to get her to say things 

multiple times. 

1790
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:38,200
I think the producers tried to 

give her prompts and she tried 

1791
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,080
her hardest. 
 
She really did. 

1792
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,880
She kind of failed her husband 

Mike tried to save it a couple 

1793
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,040
of times. 
 
She also tried to stand up for 

1794
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:52,720
the family in a weird way like 

hey this is Vegas we should get 

1795
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:59,720
behind weirdos like us vibes. 
 
And she does seem like she has 

1796
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,360
good intentions with trying to 

help the family with their 

1797
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,880
jewelry endeavor and I'm just 
 
going to give it to her. 

1798
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:10,320
They tried to tear up a few 
 
times to get some good quotes 

1799
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:11,840
and this. 
 
Poor woman. 

1800
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,280
Yeah, it was totally weird too 

when she had an almost 

1801
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:18,400
aggressive nature in her 
 
response which wasn't fitting to

1802
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,760
what she was saying. 
 
Which is why they used it in a 

1803
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:22,600
coming up on footage to make us 
 think. 

1804
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,840
They tried to trick. 
 
Us, she was going to talk shit 

1805
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,400
about them when really she was 

just speaking weirdly. 

1806
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,040
Yeah, I kind of just feel bad 
 
for her because you can tell 

1807
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:34,360
she's a nice person and it was 

bizarre. 

1808
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,135
They kind of did her dirty and I

 also feel like it was a case 

1809
01:41:37,135 --> 01:41:39,840
of not on TV. 
 
Doesn't know what to do. 

1810
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,960
I know I kind of felt bad for 
 
her because you can tell that 

1811
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:44,880
she was trying. 
 
Yeah, she really was. 

1812
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:46,520
She's. 
 
Going to get my mustard seed. 

1813
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:50,320
I'll accept Gina for that one. 

Yeah, I really don't think and 

1814
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,600
even, you know, I just don't 
 
think anyone really stood out. 

1815
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:58,080
So I'm curious to see who gets 

your mustard seed here. 

1816
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:05,600
My mustard seed is going to go 

to Janelle because I felt bad 

1817
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,840
for her when she volunteered 
 
that she's been dieting since 8 

1818
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,200
years old. 
 
That really hits in a weird 

1819
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,120
place. 
 
Yeah, it was weird. 

1820
01:42:14,440 --> 01:42:18,720
And even if you don't have the 

same experience, I feel as 

1821
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:25,000
though it it reminded me of 
 
things that I've struggled with 

1822
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:26,440
since being a kid. 
 
Yeah. 

1823
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,320
And so I really identified with 
 that. 

1824
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:36,240
I agree. 
 
And, and while some of her gym 

1825
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:39,379
and weight loss and whatnot, and

 this stuff with Sean is a 

1826
01:42:39,379 --> 01:42:43,132
little awkward or strange at 
times, I 
 appreciate that she's

1827
01:42:43,132 --> 01:42:46,160
really leaning into it. 
 
And although she's disappointed 

1828
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,880
in her plateau and struggles 
 
with the scale specifically, 

1829
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,480
she's still showing up. 
 
She's still doing the work. 

1830
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,744
And that sucks when you're on a 
 weight loss journey, when 

1831
01:42:54,744 --> 01:42:57,371
you're on any health journey 
where you 
 hit the plateaus, 

1832
01:42:57,371 --> 01:43:01,112
the highs feel great, the lows 
suck in the 
 plateaus are not 

1833
01:43:01,112 --> 01:43:03,624
great. 
So I feel for her, and I'm just 

1834
01:43:03,624 --> 01:43:06,059
 glad that she's continuing to 
show up and doing the work at 
 

1835
01:43:06,067 --> 01:43:07,320
this point in the show, you 
know? 
 

1836
01:43:07,328 --> 01:43:11,516
I do appreciate that she gave 
the nutritionist her compliments

1837
01:43:11,516 --> 01:43:15,052

 about this statuesque queen as
well. 
 

1838
01:43:15,060 --> 01:43:21,000
Yeah, no, that was a genuine, 
honest reaction of like, wow, 
 

1839
01:43:21,008 --> 01:43:23,832
this woman so pretty. 
I'm intimidated by her. 
 

1840
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:29,992
And it was very refreshing to 
see a real woman in in that clip

1841
01:43:29,992 --> 01:43:33,360

 and her praising woman for 
being beautiful. 
 

1842
01:43:33,368 --> 01:43:36,840
Yeah, an organic praise as well.
Like it was genuine coming from 

1843
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,570
 Janelle, Yeah. 
So I do feel like we're at a bit

1844
01:43:39,570 --> 01:43:41,716

 of like a stalemate right now 
with Janelle. 
 

1845
01:43:41,724 --> 01:43:45,520
This is kind of bringing it back
to the scale thing. 
 

1846
01:43:45,528 --> 01:43:48,715
And I, I want to see her pull 
forward. 
 

1847
01:43:48,723 --> 01:43:51,524
I want to see more forward 
momentum from her. 
 

1848
01:43:51,532 --> 01:43:56,080
And so I'm excited to see where 
this nutritionist takes her. 
 

1849
01:43:56,088 --> 01:44:00,104
I really AM. 
It'll be interesting to see if 


1850
01:44:00,112 --> 01:44:03,240
it doesn't take her anywhere, 
what the outcome might be, 
 

1851
01:44:03,248 --> 01:44:05,094
because you know how the show 
is. 
 

1852
01:44:05,102 --> 01:44:07,470
This is. 
True, it might just we might 
 

1853
01:44:07,478 --> 01:44:09,184
never hear about it again. 
Like who knows? 
 

1854
01:44:09,192 --> 01:44:11,080
But I don't want to burst your 
bubble. 
 

1855
01:44:11,088 --> 01:44:14,704
Just saying, you know, Janelle, 
Janelle, you did get a mustard 


1856
01:44:14,712 --> 01:44:18,714
seed from me this episode. 
Our keep sweet moment this week 

1857
01:44:18,714 --> 01:44:21,632
 is an Apple review coming to us
from Amanda Chaban. 
 

1858
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:26,280
So Chaban I think might be a 
combination of some things, I'm 

1859
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:30,474
 not quite sure so I'll just say
Amanda and Amanda's review is 
 

1860
01:44:30,482 --> 01:44:32,770
titled. 
Love you guys so much. 
 

1861
01:44:32,778 --> 01:44:37,065
Amanda says I am new to Sister 
Wives and you guys have been the

1862
01:44:37,065 --> 01:44:38,280

 perfect companion on my 
journey. 

1863
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,800
You always give me an AB workout

 from laughing so hard. 

1864
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,320
Kimber's deranged Scarlett 
 
O'Hara version of Robyn is 

1865
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,880
somehow the least correct yet 
 
the most spot on impression I've

1866
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,800
ever heard. 
 
I'm sad that I'm almost caught 

1867
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,360
up and now I have to wait a 
 
whole week for your takes. 

1868
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:58,360
Keep it going. 
 
I love that when I read the 

1869
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:02,400
Scarlett O'Hara version of 
 
Robyn, the least correct and 

1870
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:06,000
most spot on. 
 
I was like, that is amazing. 

1871
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,760
It's so true. 
 
Well, I do declare, Amanda, 

1872
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:14,480
thank you for that review. 
 
It was a lovely visual 

1873
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:20,200
stimulation for us to read that 
 and I truly, truly appreciate 

1874
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,080
it. 
 
Thank you. 

1875
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:28,040
Wow, that was truly a special 
 
moment for us all. 

1876
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,840
Thank you for the five star 
 
reviews. 

1877
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,840
If you listen to the show and 
 
you haven't left us a review 

1878
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,360
yet, please leave us five stars 
 if you feel we deserve it. 

1879
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,520
And even if you don't feel we 
 
deserve it, please do. 

1880
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,520
It helps us to get shared with 

other people that might enjoy 

1881
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:43,320
this Drain show just as much as 
 you do. 

1882
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:47,360
But please, only the five stars,

 darling, Only those well. 

1883
01:45:48,440 --> 01:45:49,800
I'm going to say this one's in 

the bag. 

1884
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,040
It's in the bag. 
 
We got it.

