What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim,
sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw. That day, just the knife in the
kidneys over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to
love you. Brown Family confessions Have
you confessed? Not recently.
Have you been down on your knees asking for forgiveness lately?
Probably not since my junior year of high school.
Well, I've been asking for some forgiveness, but not
necessarily on my knees. Season 4, Episode 10, Brown
Family Confessions. It's another Q&A episode now,
our first one, I was concerned that it was going to be lame and
suck, and it was not lame and it didn't suck.
So we'll see where this one goes.
TBD because at the end of the episode we looked at each other
and I was like. Yeah.
Yeah, we show the Browns the adults are sitting on couches
that are like making a triangle.
You've got Robyn. You've got Meri Kody and then
you've got Janelle and Christine.
So they're sitting kind of like at an angle together, and then
the children are kind of spread out and dispersed through them.
So Logan's sitting on the couch
at the very end, on the left next to.
Robyn, Robyn. And then the other kids are like
intermixed between the parents.
And some on the floor. Some on the floor.
On the couches. And it's very odd because
there's just this weird little, it looks like a footstool, a
wooden footstool with a laptop on it.
And you can see the cords coming off of the laptop like they
couldn't even charge it in time to have it cordless and sitting
there or pass the tablet around like they did during the first
sit down Q&A, which looked 1000 times better than whatever this
janky setup was. And it's just weird.
They've it's obviously a MacBook and they've got a huge black
sticker over the MacBook like logo over the Apple.
And it just looks thrown together, like haphazardly.
Yeah, there's like a speed up thing at the beginning of the
episode where they're setting up the room and it's in Janelle's
living room. Yeah.
And yeah, they have these two couches at an angle.
And then even later on when they're showing the questions
being asked, there's some video questions, there's some text
questions. And they have like an over
shoulder shot of one of the questions being asked and it's
literally just a laptop on a stool on the coffee table or
something. And it looks even at the
beginning. It's literally just like a
QuickTime MOV file where you play like it's.
It's definitely not high production quality I would say.
Like Times New Roman.
Yeah, yeah, even the on screens are like.
On PowerPoint. Copy pasted the like tweets or
whatever it is directly. So there's like spelling errors
and grammatical errors and all sorts of stuff and it's like,
cute. The computer is on a foot stool,
I would say, because the children are sitting around it
and you need to be able to see all of the faces.
I don't know what what to say other than the fact that it
looks janky and thrown together and definitely a little
ridiculous. I don't know if they're trying
to make it seem more homey by doing it in Janelle's house
other than doing it in a confessional style interview
with the couches like they normally do, but I just don't
understand it. It went from the first Q&A of
seemed very professional to this.
And I don't get it. I don't know.
And this is the second Q&A of the season.
The first one was episode 4, right?
And we were shocked that they were doing AQ and A so early on
in the season. So to go from that style of Q&A
to this is bizarre. Yeah, it makes our setup look
pretty good. I mean, I'm going like, wow, you
know, we are on the same level as a TLC show over here.
We're rocking it. We are right up there with
Puddle Monkey Productions. TLC could put us on a show right
now and we'd fit right in with the Browns.
We'd be better. Better even, I would say.
Yeah, yeah, Pretty tragic. They give us this little setup
and everybody's getting together and they're like, oh, we're
going to answer some questions, blah, blah, blah.
And then the first question comes to us from Ernesto.
Take it, Kimber. Ernesto has a question for the
children. Is anybody dating yet?
Silence. The teenagers are looking
around. Crickets.
Who's going to answer? Who's going to say anything?
Who goes first? They show Logan looking very
coy. Yeah, and Robyn asks Logan if
he's kissed her, so Logan must be dating someone.
He's been seeing somebody. Seeing a an attractive, smart,
funny, big tittied girl. Oh, he's quicker to describe her
than Kody was to describe each of the wife's string.
Oh God first. Q&A.
Right. No, and he doesn't describe her
at. All No.
He's literally not giving us anything.
What's funny is when Robyn asks him if he's kissed her, he says
well yes. And then he I mean and then like
avoids answering the question. Backtracks, kind of teasingly
pretends like, Oh, yeah, you know, I've kissed her.
And, you know, it's that thing where he's pretending to be
funny. And then he realizes that he's,
like, with his family. And then he has to like, rein it
back in. Awkward.
I wouldn't want to be talking about this with my family so.
It was odd. Maddie says no.
Just straight up no. Leon gives the best answer of
all here. Leon says that the last time
they were alone with a boy, it was on accident.
Yeah. And they'll kind of laugh.
And then there's a close up of Leon's face and, like, eyes
darting side to side and kind of just, it's like, OK.
I completely believe this too. I completely believe this.
It's just funny. Yeah.
Absolutely, definitely awkward.
Meri says that dating can be safe, Dates can be safe.
There's no reason for them not to be safe.
It's like, OK, I love that we're jumping to safe and Kody says we
want to be involved until they're 21 years old.
Kody gets so carried away here. And of course, all the kids say
like 1818. They're like 1818.
And then he says that he should know if they are dating or
kissing, and he has a right to know.
Yeah, he has a right to know so that he is able to counsel them
with his wisdom. What, Sir?
Oh I had a flashback to in the future when he talks about
passing the hormones back and forth between the mouths.
This is in a future episode. Passing hormones.
Oh, Mylanta. Kody says that these things do
have consequences, such as kissing as a consequence,
leading to other things that they don't want to have happen,
of course and. Even minor things can have
consequences. Yes, in this chaste pure family,
people have none of that. I just the answer that he gives,
that he has a right to know. Do you?
Do you, Sir?
Yeah, I don't know many teenagers that are sharing the
details of their dating life with their parents in the sense
of needing counseling and looking for advice from daddy
dearest. Like no.
This is a big problem with, I would say parenting of that time
that parents feel entitled to know everything about their
child and the children don't have a right to privacy.
And I struggle with that to an extent because I feel like your
child does have a right to privacy.
If if one of my children had like a diary for say, like when
they're older, I would not read that diary.
To me, that's a violation of their privacy.
And if I want my child to trust me and come to me with problems,
I need to respect the fact that they're their own
individual and that they are growing and learning and they're
allowed to make mistakes. I don't think that going through
their room, if they're getting into trouble and if you're
worried about drugs or something is a problem because they're in
your home. And I do think that you have a
right to look and see if something is going on when it
comes to that. But I struggle with this a bit.
Well with the privacy bit, I
agree. I felt like my privacy was
violated a lot when I was growing up.
Oh yeah. Like my mom was a snooper and it
was annoying because like, I had a diary or a journal or
whatever. And I remember in 4th grade, I
mean when you're in 4th grade, I was writing things like my mom
is so mean. She's a prostitute, OK,
prostitute. So I obviously didn't even know
what a prostitute was. OK, I couldn't even tell you
now. Also, the weird thing about
being young, and maybe I don't want to blame this on being a
boy because I was a little homosexual, but I had a diary or
something, something that had like a little lock on it.
So it's called a diary. I wrote a bunch of stuff in it.
Couldn't tell you today what I wrote.
And then I forgot about it. Kind of like it just that was
that it was like a weak phase or two weak phase.
I don't even know my mom. Like months later, I remember
being at my grandma's house and she was like, no, Christopher,
I just want you to know I'm not a prostitute.
And I was like shocked because I knew that she had read it in
my diary, but I was like Oh my God, like what a how
violating. But then also I was like, oh
geez. Like am I in trouble for writing
this to myself? Like it was weird.
And she was always looking for problems.
And I kind of, I hate to say it, but I kind of feel like people
that hide things and people that are whatever think everyone
else's. Yes, 1000 percent, 1000 times
yes. It's very strange because I've
in general in life been pretty open and I don't even know where
I would say like, OK, for example, maybe don't go snooping
through the drawers next to my bed because you might find
something you don't want to know about me, I guess, you know, but
I don't have a lot of things to.
I don't. I'm kind of just out there.
So it also doesn't go well. If your child is someone who
expresses themselves regularly and doesn't hide any, like
doesn't have a lot to hide. You feel like, Oh my God, like
I'm doing something wrong and now I've been doing anything
wrong. I think that the parents that
violate their children's privacy, especially at such a
young age. 4th grade, you're so young, and that's before you
really hit puberty. And before you what?
Would I have even been doing? Right before you get to the
point in your life where there's things that could be shame,
like make you feel ashamed like around sex or like your body or
changes that are happening in your body.
So if you're already doing that to your child, that's such a
young age, you're basically teaching them that they should
hide things and from you because like this weird obsession with
yeah, oh God, I don't get that.
It's weird because I understand the want to know what's going on
with your child. It feels weird when there isn't
something to trigger it. And that's what's so strange.
It's like I had friends as well in middle school, high school,
where their parents would be constantly trying to get them in
something, catch them in something, you're doing
something horrible. And they were the the ones that
ended up being the worst behaved or the ones that were
hiding things, the ones that were being misleading and lying
and doing all this stuff where if you don't have to do that,
then you don't have to do that.
Right, it's a. Little strange.
I would say me and my friends were super innocent, really
good, really good kids. We did a few things here and
there, but they weren't dangerous.
They weren't really that bad. They weren't anything that would
cause us to be in harm's way. And then after, you know,
parents crack down on my friend and like they actually you're
like you said, acted out and did worse things and did things
that I never ended up doing. I don't know.
I think that he just saying that he should know if they're
dating and kissing and he has a right to know.
And he got like worked up about it.
It's just like, Oh my gosh, calm down.
Yeah. I don't know.
Question #2 comes to us from Shanna and Shanna asks, compared
to living in Utah, how does community in Vegas differ when
it comes to accepting your family choices in religion?
Logan says people don't outright judge in Utah, but that people
are more open and accepting in Vegas.
Yeah, people care less. It's interesting, I think people
our last judgy probably because there's not as much like
concentrated religion going on.
When I grew up in a small town in rural Minnesota, don't you
know, And when I moved to the big city, I, my eyes were
definitely open to things. And I think there's a parallel
there where there's like small town judgment and everyone's
supposed to be uniformed. Everyone's supposed to fit in
and people judge even though people might not come out.
I don't know. I feel like people do come out
and just judge. So I don't know.
It's small town people are far more judgmental than city people
in my opinion. And maybe it's projection again,
like you're saying, like with the people that are hiding
things, it's projection. They'd rather have other people
looking at this person and what they're doing wrong then, you
know, looking in their closet and seeing their skeletons.
So why not call that person out for theirs?
And a lot of judging over things that don't matter, which is also
strange. Like if it's not hurting
anybody, why do you care? But.
Then again, we are hosting a podcast where we judge people
so. But then why put it out there
too if you care if people judge you?
So I think it kind of goes both ways there, You know, like you
put your lives out there, then expect for people to have
something to say about it. Question #3 Darling.
Oh, Ashley, she asks what is the issue topic that the family
butts heads on the most. Madison pipes up very quickly
and says that she doesn't like going to church.
Right. The kids say Kody is either
cranky or crying at church, which I love because he says
he's cranky because the kids talk too much during his church
services that he leads in their living room.
And it's funny because I can totally imagine a dad like being
cranky and irritated because he's looking around.
He's trying to share the gospel. He's trying to bring his family
up out of the depths of wherever they are, into wherever
they could be the celestial Kingdom, and they're yawning and
they're falling asleep or they're talking to each other or
they don't care because they're kids at church.
And by church I mean their living room listening to their
dad talk at them. How many kids are going to care?
I mean, whatever.
It's different than if you're sitting in a church and
listening to somebody else and there's other people around you
and you're keeping yourself in check because there's other
people around and there is judgment coming from other
people. I feel like I totally would
behave better in public than in my own home.
Like, come on. Yeah, there's a comfortability
factor. So of course they're going to
talk more than they would in a actual church.
And even when you go to church, I mean, parents are oftentimes
distracted or obligated with keeping their kids in line.
You know, there's oftentimes like kids server and then kids
service or they like leave halfway through or whatever.
It's very much like occupy the children, so you know, and
brainwash them as well. So there's the brainwashing in
the occupation, and Kody's probably cranky because he's not
able to occupy their minds completely.
Well, if you're like me, if you were raised Catholic, there's
just so much up and down and kneeling and sitting and
standing that you know you're constantly paying attention.
Because by golly, if you're the only one standing when you're
supposed to be kneeling, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Shame. Absolutely.
Logan says that the teenagers
butt heads with the adults, and that's kind of the general
consensus. Yeah, Janelle says that they
struggle getting the teenagers to do what they want.
Yeah, no shit. Really.
That's a first that's definitely exclusive to the Brown family.
I struggle getting my 3 1/2 year old to do what I want.
Like, come on. Our next question comes to us
from Barbara. Barbara, please, Barbara, says
Kody, realistically, how would you feel about your daughter's
being in marriages with several wives?
I thought this question was odd because it's like he is in a
polygamist marriage himself. So you're making it sound like
this would be other or different from what they currently have,
which it's not, so whatever. But don't think that Kody's not
going to give us some ridiculous bullshit, because he is going
to. Of course.
He has to go on and on and on about how if they marry the
right person, it will be the single most important decision
they make and blah blah blah blah blah.
Kimber, can you say this better than I can?
I He goes on and on. He says if they're the right
person and they have the right sister wives, they will be very
happy. Who they marry will be the
single most important decision they have to make in their
entire life. Yes.
And then he gives this long lands of things that they need
to have and he's like keeps saying skills and ability and
the skills to do this and the ability to do that and.
They better marry for love and for happiness and someone who
can take care of them and this and that and this and that and
he's going on. They could have done one of
those montages where he in and out and like everyone was
drifting. It was like being at church that
Kody was leading. Christine and Robyn start like
cheering. They all start laughing and
applauding because he is going on and on and on and nauseam.
You get married. Who says the only reason he
stopped was to take a breath? Yeah, he wasn't done yet.
He wasn't done yet. He would have kept going.
And then Kody does end it by saying that his expectations for
a son-in-law are very high. No touché.
I would say most fathers would say the same thing, but this
list that he says is ridiculous.
Yeah, it's all very typical things of a wish list, but like
extended version. Well like the ability to raise
strong and smart and intelligent children, right?
Like every parent with their first child is a learning for
the first time. So unless your daughter marries
into a plague of his family and is like the second, third,
fourth wife, then good luck. He's not going to know that yet.
Like he just had these weird
things he was saying and he was just talking to talk.
He was definitely filling the space, filling the room with
more of Kody's hot air. But leave it to Robyn to cheer.
And I'm shocked that Christine joined in on the cheering.
I was actually shocked by that.
Yeah, I think they were more applauding on the silly side,
right? Like laughing that he was still
going, like he was going and going do.
You think Robyn was sarcastically doing it?
I doubt it. Maybe Christine joined in like
sarcastically, but I think Robyn really was like, oh, good
answer. Oh, this list of 47 things we
hope for our children with their spouse like good Lord.
Before we move on to the next question, I have to point out
that Christine has sunglasses on top of her head.
The parents kind of look half put together.
The children are wearing kind of matchy outfits and look very
nice. At one point the children will
exit. As soon as the children exit,
the appearance of it being put together goes to shit even more
than it already was, and Christine's sitting there with
sunglasses on her head the entire time.
They all have open toed sandal they.
All have like black open toed sandals.
Maybe like a wedge sandal for Robyn and Meri had something and
then Meri and Robyn are wearing matching jeans with the
huge like white stitching. On it, down the middle and then
like on the cuff and they're sitting right next to each
other. So it's so like, Oh my God,
they're wearing the same jeans with.
Their like legs kind of in the same position and like angled
the same way like a yearbook photo of your like class like so
it's just funny and very apparent that they're wearing
the same jeans. Yeah, when the kids left your
right, it was somehow de elevated.
What would the word be the opposite of elevated?
It was diminished. Yeah.
It was whatever even more than it was when it started, which
was definitely saying something. Yeah, but the sunglasses on the
head bit just kind of cracked me up because it looks like she
just walked in off the street and they were like, oh, by the
way, we're doing this today. Just like the setup with some
weird wooden foot stool and a laptop.
It definitely felt thrown together.
So strange. Interesting that it made the cut
too that they decided to film this and then make it into an
episode. When that nobody said even
halfway through, hey, you should take your sunglasses off of your
head. Like they obviously don't give a
shit about continuity in this show.
So it's not like when the kids got up and left or at any point
between the questions that they couldn't have have her take her
sunglasses off her head. It's just so weird.
There's even a point when the kids leave, when they're
resetting, where Kody starts talking and then the director's
like, hold on, hold on. And he's like, is everyone
ready? And then he's like, OK, we can
go. And it's like, why was that left
in, like, so weird, so sloppy this episode?
So it's sloppier than our podcast.
It is so sloppy. It's like they're trying to make
it look that way, like that was the aesthetic or style they
were going for, but it was a huge swing and a miss.
Yeah, very much a miss. So Dana asks, how has moving to
Las Vegas changed the family dynamic?
Hey Dana, what I want to know is do you watch the fucking show?
Because Jesus Christ. Probably not.
There's some of these interviews where you could tell they were
like in a casino. I shouldn't say interviews,
questions where they're filming them.
Some of the questions are tweets or something.
Some of them they show us nothing.
And some of them are video on this computer.
And the videos do look like there was like a camera person
at a casino being like. Do you have any questions for
the Browns? Some of them appeared to not
know anything. Quite literally, it's like they
had a camera person just standing in the lobby of or not
even the lobby. There's like the machines.
And they were like, Oh yeah, have you seen this TLC show?
Want to ask a question? And maybe they got a little blur
before their question, Like, Oh, yeah, it's about this
polygamous family. And he has this many wives.
And they probably even fed him the questions.
But gosh, that's like one of the stupidest questions ever.
How has moving to Las Vegas changed the family dynamic?
Well, Christine starts us out with her answer, though.
Yes, she sure does, she says. It's very challenging, very
challenging living in. Four separate homes.
As if we haven't been hearing that repeatedly on and on and
on. Logan says he liked it better
when they were all under one roof back in Lehigh, which makes
sense. And this is where we hear from
Aspen for the first time. So little of Aspen in this show
up until now, like holistically from the very beginning, we just
don't hear much from Aspen. And so it was nice to actually
hear her talk. She says that they don't see
Kody nearly as often as they used to, so I guess she didn't
say much. Yeah, she's like, we don't
really see our dad much anymore. And that was kind of sad answer,
Yeah. I thought maybe it would spark a
little bit more emotion from the adults than it did.
Robyn surprisingly says kind of the most hear about it.
And she just says that what she thought she was getting into and
what she wanted out of this polygamous family is slipping
away. She thinks that it's slipping
away. The reason that she thought this
would be so wonderful? Yeah, she sees a big difference
from when she first joined the family.
It's slipping away through her fingertips.
As if she wasn't one of the catalysts to the change that
started right the slipping away. That'd be funny.
She's like, ever since I started ruining this family I've seen a
lot of differences. Yeah, well, when I take that
back, she didn't give the most heartfelt answer here.
Mckelty actually did. And that was it brought a little
like, not tear to my eye, but a little glimpse into the
children's inner working relationships with the younger
ones. And she said she feels closer to
Robyn's kids now and says she didn't when they were in Lehigh,
feel connected to them at all and didn't see how they were
going to fit into the family or how she was supposed to view
Robyn's kids as siblings. But now she is very close to the
Robyn's kids, especially Brianna, and they have a
spiritual bond. A spiritual connection with
Brianna. Yeah.
And she's talking to Robyn when answering this question because
obviously she's speaking about Robyn's children.
And Robyn starts crying and then Mckelty starts crying.
And I agree with you. It didn't touch me personally
very much. Like, I wasn't like, but it was
a touching moment. It was a touching moment in the
fact that nobody seemed to have much of A reaction to Aspens.
The answer about not seeing Kody too much anymore, which I would
have thought that would have done more than this, but I think
that Mckelty, it's interesting because she comes off very harsh
at the beginning of her answer, saying that she didn't
understand how Robyn would fit into the family or her kids and
then get so emotional so quickly about Brianna in
particular. But it's pretty cool that she
has a close bond with her and these are as the spiritual
sister. And that is very on brand for
Mckelty to start speaking and sound kind of matter of fact and
kind of almost flippant. I don't want to say flippant,
but you know, she was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. And then all of a sudden she's
crying and it's like, what the hell.
Like she's and the Kelty's a weirdo.
Complete 180 as far as the emotions went.
She's a strange cookie. She's an odd tasting cookie.
She's a cookie that you might try one in the variety pack and
they'll be like, I don't need any more.
But maybe that's just me. Take a half a bite of that and
decide it's not worth the calories.
Yes, I'm going to reference Bethenny Frankel here.
Mckelty's a little like black licorice.
Some people love it, some people hate it.
I happen to not like black licorice, but some people do.
Fucking hate black licorice. Next question comes from
Deborah. Deborah.
Deborah, Deborah, with all the kids being different ages, do
the boys look after the girls like big older brothers?
And Logan says that he is protective for sure.
And Maddie shares such a cute story.
Love this story. OK, am I going to attempt to try
to tell this story? You're going to have to correct
me if I get anything wrong. When they were very little, they
were together and there was a storm happening, like a
potential tornado, thunderstorm.
And she was scared and she was scared and she asked Logan if he
was scared of the storm and he said he would protect her from
anything. And I thought it was so cute.
She said are you scared? And he's like, no.
And he said he would protect her.
And then she goes even from a tornado and he goes, I would
protect you from anything. They're showing really cute
pictures of them together across the screen as she's telling the
story. And it's adorable and makes me
wish that I had a Big Brother. Not.
Really. I mean.
No, no and. Then Kody, of course, has to
tell us that Logan is like, the perfect older brother.
I hope that Logan hasn't experienced too much pressure in
his life about that because he is the oldest.
They have parentified him in many ways.
And then just hearing comments like he's the perfect older
brother, it's like it's hard to not internalize those things and
make it feel like even more pressure because it does seem
like it's in his nature to be, you know, a leader.
And it kind of fits him, But you know, you don't want to put
extra pressure on your kids. Well, that's maybe a little bit
why the swearing thing came up in the last episode, because
it's one of the things that he does that isn't perfect.
And maybe it's his one way of being.
Like this is something that I'm doing.
That's not what you guys want, but it's an innocent thing to be
doing that's not actually harmful.
So it's like a way of him acting out without really acting out.
Like in a family that isn't super religious like this and
super strict, would that really be acting out?
Probably not. You'd probably be like watch
your mouth kid. But you wouldn't be worried
about it with the little children and leaving a bad
example because most people wouldn't have a 100 other
younger siblings to think about swearing in front of so.
I was to say what? It's not to say it's a sign, a
sign of lack of intelligence. Yeah.
So even the ribbing, it's it's totally a reasonable thing for a
senior in high school to, like, let out a swear word or
something. I mean my God.
I do think that he feels the pressure to be perfect though
and have everybody looking up to him and I can't imagine that he
didn't feel that way. And I can't speak to now, but it
also brings me back to Kody's older brother that came to visit
and his stoic personality that we got like nothing from.
And he was the oldest in the entire family and probably had
to set that standard. So I hope that Logan is OK.
Well, KATU, today he seems well adjusted.
He's married. They didn't have the wedding on
the show. He has a private life and when
he was last on the show and random appearances, he seemed,
you know, what can you gather? But he seemed pretty normal and
well adjusted. Are you going to give us our
next question, darling? Kathy and Stephanie want to
know, of all the food you make for your children, what do they
request the most? Do we truly, honestly believe
this is one of the questions that somebody asked?
I, well, I, I mean, considering what the show is, I do believe
it. OK.
And I'm just going to say I am shocked that no one said Robyn's
pasta dish, which is like noodles and marinara and a
little melted like slice of cheese on the top.
Oh my God, yeah. Yeah, Robyn is obviously a bad
cook. There are scenes later in the
show like where she tries to make Kody eggs and it's so
bizarre to watch. Like I was like, Oh my God.
Like she does manage to cook them, but I don't know how.
Anyway, I'm just saying it's funny that no one volunteers
Robyn and and and and. No one is surprised by this
either. I was a little shocked by what
they said here. Christine's tapioca.
Her mock tapioca pudding. Yeah, it takes her 1 1/2 hours
to make this and it's never enough.
They make like 2 huge. She makes 2 huge pots full and
it's never enough for everybody. She describes it as fluffy Cream
of Wheat cereal, kind of like that vibes.
It does remind me a little bit of when I was a kid and my mom
was like, oh, you can have oh, what do you make the boys for
breakfast sometimes? And it's like healthy.
Oatmeal. Oatmeal.
She's like, oh, I'm going to make you oatmeal before school.
Turns out I feel like she made
me some sort of food for like babies or like infants.
Like it was like cinnamon sugar knock off of oatmeal.
I know what you're talking about and my God, people are going
to be screaming it right now, but it is like the runny thin
version of oatmeal and I cannot think of the name of what it
is. People are literally going to be
screaming. We suck at remember.
It's like all the time. It is ridiculous of us.
But even like my husband bought the last time at the grocery
store, a big thing of the quick oats.
And I don't even like the quick oats because the texture is
different. They're smaller.
It's like chopped up oatmeal. No, I love making like a good
hearty like thick oatmeal. I even, and this is like a
little pro tip. If you want something different
with your cookie recipe, if you even use the cookie recipe out
in the back of like Nestle chocolate chips, take instead of
like 1 cup of flour, substitute it for ground up like
food processed oatmeal. And it just adds something to
the cookies. I don't even know how to explain
it, but it adds a little texture and something different
and it's so good. Girl, I'm just getting visions
of you having we can RIP off Christines version of cooking
these days. No, she has like white people
meals that she puts online, like her enchilada casserole where it
was like, why are you even doing this?
And it looks terrible. You could do cookies and we
could put it on Patreon and people could make those recipes.
We for sure have to.
Now this fluffy Cream of Wheat cereal knockoff is mock tapioca
pudding I have. Wheat, that's what it is.
You just said it. Cream of Wheat.
Oh, that's what the cereal is the.
Cereal is that you're talking about?
Oh my God. Well, that's how she's
describing her mock tapioca pudding.
I have to admit something. Please don't shame me in the
synagogue. I don't know what tapioca
pudding is. It just looked to me like a
breakfast cereal for kids. Like literally cream of wheat.
Like something you would make for a toddler.
Yeah, I've never had tapioca because I think it is a texture
thing for me, which is funny because I love oatmeal, but it's
like chunky pudding. And this when she says mock
tapioca pudding that makes me even question it even more
because I'm like what is imitation pudding?
Well, that's what I kept missing.
Like I when I was like, what did she say?
I just put tapioca because I'm like mock tapioca.
What the fuck is that? Yeah, I'm not even sure.
And the visuals they were showing on the screen were not
helping me. I I literally just look like
Cream of Wheat cereal. It looked like tapioca pudding
and they show like a food line like from Oliver or the musical
like Sir could I have some more?
The children are going through and she's emptying the bottom of
the pot and Kody as every child walks by makes the child
stop and takes like 2 spoonfuls of their mock tapioca
pudding as like his payment and they walk by and it's so
funny. He's like making each child stop
and give him spoonfuls. He's like a tax collector, being
like, you have to give me my bite.
It looked like it. It reminded me of Oliver.
Seriously. The musical?
Please, Sam, may I have some more?
Except for it's Kody Ask. And it reminded me of Robyn Hood
when the tax collector comes around and is like, taxes,
collecting your taxes. And it's just Kody being like,
give me a bite of that. It's probably one of those
things that if a normal, like if a person outside of the family
were to try it, it would be absolutely disgusting.
But everybody else in the family loves it because it's like
their childhood thing and like it's something that their mom
made. But everyone, it seemed to also
be a united kind of everyone was backing it up, which is
funny that everyone was all about it.
So yeah, let's say it was good for this family that eats bad
food. Yeah.
Our next question comes to us from Alice.
No, she is not lost in Wonderland.
She's here asking questions of the Brown family moving from
Utah to Vegas. Have the temptations changed the
family at all? The drinking, the gambling, the
hookers. And I wanted to know if any of
the kids have been tempted to do any of these things.
Now this is one of those video questions that came from a
casino floor and the fact that she said hookers.
Hookers. Hookers.
I love the word hooker.
It's so good. Like I just always want to use
the word hooker like she's a hooker.
Nothing to do with prostitution, nothing to do with anything,
just hooker. I just love it.
Call me a hooker, I'll take it.
There was a girl in my elementary school and her last
name was Hooker and that poor girl.
That poor girl. That poor girl.
Yeah, that's, that's unfortunate.
But I, I would literally be like, what's up, hooker?
But see, then what if she was like, no, you're driving me
crazy. And I'd be like, but I mean it
in an affectionate way. I love the word hooker.
I love it, Oh my. God I need help.
Jesus. Who loves the word hooker?
It is kind. It is a good word, right?
It's fun. Hooker.
Hooker it's. Just got this.
I just picture the word being like drawn out with two eyes in
the middle of the OS, like darting back and forth.
I don't know why. So good.
Oh boy. Well, you know, it is Sin City
and Logan does tell us that it's more prevalent here in Vegas
that I don't know what's more prevalent.
The bad things are prevalent. Yeah, it's weird because Kody
immediately goes to the children and says if their school has had
more temptation here than the Utah school.
And Logan says he deflects at first.
He goes, the kids are friendlier.
And then Maddie pipes up and says that the kids are more open
here. So there's.
Drugs and alcohol, but it's just more out in the open and it's
more like black and white if you're like a good kid or a bad
kid. As opposed to in Utah, the lines
were more blurred, like kids hid stuff more and maybe more
kids were doing stuff and it was just under wraps a little
more. And well, well, what do we say a
lot that people lie in this religion a lot.
They hide things a lot so. And alcohol and drugs being more
accessible in Vegas is one thing, but being placed in front
of you happens more in rural communities.
And I would agree with that. I think it's easier.
It could be easier to find drugs or to find alcohol or hookers.
In the big city you could find hookers, but where I'm from, the
jocks were popping pills. The Freako theater kids were
straight laced like it was the the lines were blurred all over
the place. And, and those are some
stereotypes, but they play true to a certain extent.
And then in the city, I think people are a little bit more
just open, like you can tell what people are doing.
It's probably just a little more obvious.
And then Kody. Have quite as big of a reason to
hide it. Right, yes, when Kody asks the
adults if they have any temptations with gambling, which
is quickly dismissed, I think he asks about something specific
and they don't even know what. Oh, remember, someone was like,
I don't even know about gambling and they were like, it's the
three cherries or make. Healthier.
One of the kids says something about, yeah, it's the three
cherries, and Kody cuts her off and goes, you shouldn't even
know about that. I don't even want you to know
about that. Ridiculous.
It's like you'd find that in a cartoon.
Literally they show it like in cartoon characters eyes.
Sometimes they like show the things.
Totally ridiculous. Did Janelle say something at
this point? I think she kind of laughed and
was like about the gambling and maybe said like a few things,
but they weren't like noteworthy.
But it made me think that she has gambled maybe.
And then Kody changes it and they're like done with that
question quickly. Yeah, he's he.
He scurries them along with the gambling.
Scurries them along with quite a few of these questions.
Yeah, well, he's very open. Speaking of scurrying them along
with questions, we get a video again of somebody asking this
question. Oh God, this one's a doozy.
Yep, this one's a doozy. Question #9 comes from Evelyn.
What does that man do to take care of all those women in the
bedroom? Because I'd like some of that
for my husband. Oh.
My God. And all the kids are like, what?
Mortified. There's this amazing.
So what's great is that they first give us this question
before a commercial, and then they come back from the
commercial and redo it so the question gets asked.
There's like an app break, like the commercial break, and
there's this close up of Mckelty's face and she's
mortified. She's just like, stunned.
The kids are all literally like asking what?
And Kody says kids, kids out. He kicks the kids out.
Kids, you need to leave. And then the parents are like,
so they the kids do get up and Logan actually gets up and says
I'm done and like walks off. And then the other kids do start
getting up and leaving because Kody is serious about kicking
him out. And all the parents look pissed.
And this is when they kind of regroup a little bit and then it
it's kind of looks disheveled after this.
And I do think that the parents were actually mad.
I think that Kody was pissed here.
And I think it kind of went even more downhill after that
question because the reaction of the parents being asked that
in front of their children, I think they were very upset
that they were given that question to read out loud.
And like, I think it was given as a video to catch them off
guard so that one of the parents wasn't reading it and then
decided to stop reading the question.
So they did it for the shock and awe of playing the video in
front of the kids. And I think the parents are
really pissed. That's interesting because I was
not paying too much attention to the parents faces.
I was distracted by the kids faces because they all look so
grossed out. Like they were all literally
like are you effing kidding? Obviously Logan's like I'm out.
They quickly move on like they exit the room and then they're
setting back up for the adult only portion of this.
And adults look very serious at this point.
Like, I think the producers were going to try to sneak in, like
these adult questions with the kids there to get reactions.
And I think that the parents were like, what the fuck?
Like, we didn't sign up for this.
You didn't warn us of this. Like, I really truly think that
they were mad and I don't blame them.
Like come on, that's like an inappropriate thing to ask in
front of minor children of their parents on ATV.
Scandalous. Oh sister wise.
So R rated. Well, I just think it's dumb.
It's like, obviously they're doing it to get a reaction from
the kids and you're talking about this religious family who
has declined questions like this before.
So it is just kind of shitty to do this to them.
I don't know. Well, Kody says he's not willing
to discuss it, and Meri says no way that we would discuss that.
They don't even really talk about it in their family.
It's like, of course, we've heard that from Meri before.
Yeah, they pass. They literally say we'll pass on
that one. And I like, have an asterisk.
All the parents look. Pushed.
And then we move on quickly. Thank God.
And then our next question comes to us from Karen.
Here's an opportunity to plug our Patreon.
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discussed Karen's and am IA. Karen, Are you a Karen?
Are they a Karen? So go give it a listen.
And this Karen has another question that I don't think we
would classify as a Karen question, but her name's Karen.
So I'm going to say Karen one more time.
Karen. Karen asks is there a clean the
toilet wife, a shopping at the mall, wife a bringing the kids
to soccer practice wife and a wife that's for the bedroom?
Because I want to be a shopping wife.
She's got thick white eyeshadow on.
This is Karen. This is Karen, Yeah.
She's definitely of the time and of the place.
And Meri says we're all for. Yeah, Christine goes.
We're all, all of them. But we don't have to be.
And then she did not elaborate on that.
Yeah. But I kind of get it, like we
all could be all of them, but like we wouldn't have to be all
of them if we didn't want to be because there's more of us.
Oh God. And then Robyn.
Robyn, she says when Christine had truly scrumptious, she went
over to Christine's house to clean the toilet, to clean the
bathroom, to clean the a bedroom and to clean the bathroom.
And she says I was the mall wife, I was the toilet cleaning
wife. And then she makes herself
laugh. She starts getting really giggly
and she goes, I forget all the other ones, Yeah.
And no one else joins in. And they're all, like, looking
at her. And she puts her head between
her legs, like, she puts her head down and she gets all
giggly. Like she's trying to be adorable
because I can't remember the rest of the things that the lady
listed off that the Karen listed off.
Which is funny because it's bedroom wife and shopping wife
so she's pretending to not remember because she doesn't
want to answer about having sex AKA fucking Kody Brown and
shopping because she's a shopping addict.
Well, she did say she was the mall wife at the beginning, so
what's the other one? That she knows.
Never mind. No, God damn it.
My Oh no, no, no, no. What's the other one that she
missed though? Clean the toilet Shopping at the
mall soccer practice. Soccer practice, mom and yeah.
So she's not the soccer practice mom, Or she didn't remember if
she was a soccer practice mom and she didn't remember if she
was a bedroom mom? Oh yeah.
Good for her by the way. She gets all giggly and forgets
the rest of the labels for the wives and then she puts her head
between her legs is just so ridiculous and you can tell
she's trying to be adorable and funny here but it doesn't land
no with everyone else. Yeah, it's so awkward.
Yeah, I'm surprised they kept it in in a sense, because it was
just another moment of weird space.
Her trying to be the pick me girl, get the attention and
stand out. Yeah, I would never talk about
being the bedroom wife talking Robyn.
Even her saying that after truly was born that she went to
clean Christine's bathroom. I I was like what like 1
fucking. Time.
I know it felt a little like she's trying to get brownie
points. Yeah, it did.
It's like, OK, that's the thing that people do to help people
that have newborn children. It's not that big of a deal.
I always say to people if people are coming over after you have
a newborn, you don't need someone to come and hold your
baby. You need someone to come and
help you with things around the house.
Do a load of laundry while you're here.
Bring food over. You don't even bring something
for the freezer. Help with the dishes, Wash some
bottles. I don't need you coming over and
sitting here and holding my baby and gushing over my baby.
Which, yes, my baby's fucking adorable, but that's the last
thing that a new mom actually really wants you coming over to
do. You're like, clean a toilet,
bitch. Clean.
My toilet bitch. I've been bleeding.
I need some help in that department.
I keep bleeding, she keeps bleeding.
She needs you to clean her toilet.
No, boy. You could have called Robyn and
she could have came over and cleaned your toilet honey.
Professional toilet cleaner Robyn over here.
But this is something she does a lot.
She offers up things that she has done to help the other wives
or she she kind of drops these little hints or these little
tokens of things that she's done.
And I've noticed it quite a few times in the couch interviews
before. And this is another one of those
moments. And I'm trying to think off the
top of my head. Obviously, she brings up the
surrogacy offer like every single chance that she gets.
And there's been a few other times where I've clocked it and
I'm clocking it now, like, and they could have all piped up
here and been like, Oh, yeah, like, you know, we've done this
and that for each other, but they didn't.
For all the years they lived together and took care of things
for each other. Like literally these women have
done so much for each other and Robyn's.
Like I can remember one time I came over and cleaned your
toilet when you were after you gave birth.
That's the whole point of being a sister wife, which goes back
to Christine's answer. We are all, all of them, but we
don't have to be. Yeah, Yeah, that's literally
what Christine was saying, is like, we do everything for each
other, and when one of us can't do the one thing, the other ones
pick up the slack. And you hear, you've got Robyn
being like, but I do this. God, she's just so yucky.
You just love her so much. Yeah, question 11 from Azar.
How many wives can a man marry in your religion?
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what exact religion you practice.
Kody has to point out, of course, that they are actually
fundamentalists, and he likens them like fundamentalists and
Mormons to Catholics and Protestants.
Yes, we does say that they're Mormon fundamentalists.
You know, splitting hairs.
It's not the same as being a Mormon.
Period. Yep, it's like Catholics and
Protestants. And he has to say that Brigham
Young had 27 plus wives. Yeah, I thought you were trying
to separate yourself from him. You cancelled Christine's
holiday where they celebrated his birthday, right?
And now you're bringing him up and his 27 plus wives.
All right. Yeah, Kody doesn't think there
is a limit because he's heard so many fabulous stories of these
men with many dozens of wives. Of course, the wives all laugh
at his example because it's ridiculous.
Yeah, he's like, as long as I can nurture my wives, I think
that I'm good. So as long as he thinks he has
enough to give, he's fine. Yes, and for anyone who's seen
this show, he does not have enough to give.
No, he can't even keep the four wives he has.
Your child just pointed out that you who aren't even giving them
enough FaceTime. Yeah, in front of you.
So. In the space real time and you
didn't even have a response. And they're so he is so worried
about the wives all the time. And like, we've brought this up
before that it's not about the kids really.
It doesn't seem like most of the time when they talk about the
four houses, he's talking about the wives most of the time.
Yeah, for him specifically, he doesn't talk about the children.
Yes.
So it's like, OK, you might feel like you have enough nurturing
left in you to pass around to another wife, but what about the
children? What about the fucking children?
Would. Somebody please think of the
children. Quite literally though, Oh my
God. Meri talks about how when they
got married they knew there would be other wives.
This is one of her classic tropes She's I was talking
about. We got married and we knew we'd
bring another wife into the family.
Sorry about that voice. And Christine says 4 is a lovely
number and I'm done. We complement each other quite
well and then she kind of trails off.
Yeah, she's like, we should be done now.
She's like. We should have done at 3:00.
They use this as an opportunity to mention the previous
courtship that Kody and Meri had before Janelle, and he says it
has to be the right fit. We'd have gotten really close
with somebody before Janelle and Meri actually got really close
with this person and was like best friends with them.
And it just didn't work out. And it wasn't going to be a good
fit for us and it wasn't going to be a good fit for her.
So we're glad that it didn't work out.
And he's trying to use it as an example of how particular you
have to be when adding somebody into the family.
But it's just kind of felt like a weird opportunity to bring
this up for some reason. Yeah, I don't quite get what
it's an example of. I mean, I guess discernment.
The truth is, is that they, the alleged truth is that they
courted someone who is underage.
So like, she was 1617, whatever. So I don't even know why you
would even bring it up at all. Like I just wouldn't bring it up
period. I don't know what it's supposed
to prove. That's why I was surprised that
they brought it up and it was a weird just space to bring it up
and it didn't need to be brought up.
And they talk about in their book about how she was underage.
They had to plan the wedding
date so that she would be legal.
Yeah. And then they called it off
before the wedding. So why would you bring that up
out of nowhere when it hasn't been mentioned in the show
before? It's been mentioned in their
book but not in the show as far as I can remember.
I feel like it's a gaffe but I don't know why.
Very. Odd you would bring it.
Yeah, I don't understand. Maybe just him talking again.
He just always has to fucking talk.
Right, like he, he and Robyn both throughout the lifetime of
this show do say things that in the future end up being like,
well, foot in mouth. Like, why did you even say that?
Like why are you even
volunteering this information? Complete foot in mouth moment.
Just like the nachos thing. It's like nachos Sir.
Not train it in. Unbelievable.
Talk about your underage fiance from back in the day.
But we decided not to have that happen.
OK. Danny, Danny Boy, Danny Boy has
a question for us. Danny, Danny, Danny, Danny, says
Kody, Being that you have 4 wives, is there ever a time when
someone isn't mad at you? I love this question, I love
this question and I'm sorry to all the women in my life but I
love this question because I grew up in a home with a mother
and a father, a loving mother and a loving father, and I feel
like my mom was pissed at my dad all the time.
So your laughter is cute. That literally laughter, ha ha.
The question gets asked and there is laughter all around, of
course. Yeah, Christine's like kind of
laughing and she goes, well, I kind of am right now, like kind
of mad at him right now. Well, it starts with Meri kind
of does like a a circle bit, except for Janelle doesn't
respond. Meri says, well I'm not mad at
you right now. And then Kody kind of looks at
Robyn like well, what are you going to say?
And she says, well I'm not mad at you.
And then Christine says, well, I'm kind of mad at you right
now, sorry. Is anyone shocked about that?
No one is shocked. No one is shocked.
Yeah, Christine might be a little mad.
I do think that. I mean, we'll get into what they
say, But of course, someone's always mad at him.
Like give me a break, he says monogamous men stop caring if a
wife is mad and I can't because I need harmony.
Now I'm paraphrasing here. The stop caring bit is what I
see plenty of men doing, which is when wives are complaining to
them or talking to them about an issue, they kind of just get
glossy or if something's happening, they're not really
listening. There's just like AI don't want
to call it a defense mechanism, but it's a mechanism to just
stop the I can't, I'm not going to take it in.
I'm just going to be here. Well, it's weaponized
incompetence. It's not growing as a human.
And like listening to your partner when they are bringing
things to you that are concerning or problematic to
them, and then you're just going to choose not to fix it and
choose to ignore it. Yeah, I don't know, weaponized
incompetence. If you haven't heard of it, look
it up. And if it's happening in your
marriage, might be time to leave.
I don't know. The drums.
The drums said. Like a true uterus holder.
Or what's another phrase for? A.
Yes, yes, for a female identified spouse.
Let's go with that. A female identified spouse.
They say that most women when they leave a marriage, it's
unexpected to the husband or it doesn't seem expected because
they're not angry anymore and they've slowly fallen out of
love over a long period of time.
Because it's the small things that add up.
It's the small things that aren't being done that are being
ignored or that have just after years of the spouse not
noticing this thing. You just kind of get fed up.
Yeah. And so the rest of their answer
is very problematic to me. Oh, yeah.
Because, well, for many reasons, Robyn's saying that there's less
time to fight because they see each other for a less amount,
lesser amount of time. And Kody says quite a bit of
word salad, and he ends it with saying that they have to exploit
the things that are wonderful and ignore the things that are
not. Oh my God, this is just so
fucking awful. Sounds like they're not solving
too many problems. No, and you're saying that oh,
men with one spouse tend to ignore the problems?
You were literally just fucking said that you have to ignore the
things that are not wonderful. What?
It's true, he's like this is what monogamous men do, but not
me because I need harmony. I do what I just said other men
do like crazy. Now Robyn detail about what she
said that I want to highlight for for those of us who are
little too into the Brown family and Oh my God, we need help.
She gives an example about how her mom provided a wonderful
environment for her stepdaddy uncle.
And this is the whole thing with where Robyn.
She definitely saw this example, in my humble opinion, from her
mother, where when Dad comes in this polygamous environment, you
make it like a vacation. Yeah.
He doesn't have to lift a finger.
We love dad. We're going to put on a show for
him. We're going to make him so
happy. Life here is wonderful.
Dad. You want to come here and be
with us, Dad and spouse. So Robyn, throughout the show
and we'll talk about it as it goes on.
You know, she hires out to get everything solved.
She has a nanny. She makes sure Kody doesn't have
to do a thing in her house. And the other spouses, the other
sister wives, probably have more realistic situations
happening where you might have to depend on your significant
other to be available emotionally, physically, in so
many different ways. It's manipulative and it's a way
for her to look better than the other wives.
Yeah, 100 more favorable to Kody.
And she learned it from her mother, that hooker.
Hooker. She does say, yeah, that when
her mom was, when her dad was there, her mom basically like
put it on, like lay it on thick for him when they're there.
And it's obvious that she does that.
And then you get to the other households and these wives are
being realistic and they're expecting growth from you and
they're expecting a partner that's with them on things and
that they can like talk to and not just Playhouse with.
And so of course, that's more exhausting, that's more mentally
taxing and whatnot to him. So why wouldn't he flit off to
Robyns all the time where he can just Playhouse, Yeah.
Getting Dick wet, barely has to pay attention to the children,
eats whatever he wants, doesn't have to clean up.
She doesn't lay a problem on him at all, ever.
It's just very weird and it is very manipulative.
And that would very quickly sour you against your other wives.
If you're like, well, why can't you just?
Yeah, be like. Blah blah blah blah, you know?
Absolutely. But you know what?
Be careful what you wish for. Because Robyn, you know what?
You might end up spending a lot of time with Kody Brown in the
future. A lot of time.
And then it gets harder and harder to pretend that
everything is OK because you see him more and more often.
And eventually the looks start to fade, the body starts to
decompose. Decompose, the children go
insane, the household is falling apart, and you're like, I'm just
going to pretend everything's fine for Makati.
Oh, jump to Season 20 and you'll know what we're talking about.
It's no wonder why they're at where they're at now.
He just said it all in question #12 yeah.
And notice how the only thing we get from Christina's a little
chuckle, a little joke about how she's kind of mad at him.
She doesn't provide any details. Another thing overall, it's
funny because I think we're going to talk about Janelle
here, but very little Janelle. Very little from her.
Very few opinions from Janelle so, and I think that's par for
the course. Meri usually speaks up more, I
think, than we get in this episode, but Janelle's pretty
cool with letting things fly under the radar In a little bit.
We will see her give some looks
to Robyn and she's she's not part of the Robyn fan club and I
love it. But yeah, we haven't heard much
from Janelle at this point. Now in this next question
though, we will. From Lisa With so many kids, how
is college going to be paid for when the show has shown how
hard finances are for the Brown family?
And they do kind of start by someone, I don't remember who
says something like, well, college is hard for everybody
like that. This is a consistent, this is
across the board problem. Yeah, like a Brown family
problem. However, they obviously have a
shit ton of kids so. Janelle and Kody are like all
gung ho that the kids are going to go to college.
They keep going and they're both saying the same thing here
while the kids are all going to go to college.
Robyn mentions that it's hard to pay for even like one kid to
go to college, so they're going to have to make it work and do
what they can for the kids. But she kind of laughs and makes
a comment and says like, well, not all the kids are going to go
to college. And then Janelle and Kody look
at her and say, no, all the kids are going to go to college.
And they kind of like heaven hog, both of them saying that
like on repeat. And you can tell that Kody is
irritated with Robyn and he says, I hope I don't get any
pushback on that because it's wise.
Yeah. That is awkward.
Janelle makes a statement at the beginning after being asked
this question. She says, I worked my way
through college and I paid my tuition.
And so she's so I think she's trying to demonstrate how it's
not necessarily parents obligation to like give their
children a ride through school.
At some point someone does say something like what?
We would love to be able to help as many, as many kids, all of
our children, as much as we can for college.
It's unrealistic for most people to put their kids to college, so
obviously for this family, it's probably impossible.
And that's where Robyn does this whole no matter how much we
push, not everyone will go to college.
And I hate to say it, but Robyn's right.
She is right. I.
Mean they have a whole brewed of children.
It's not like every one of them is going to go to college just
logically, let alone through your own dogma.
Forced education. Yeah, and then you got Kody and
Janelle, like, very like, Nope, they're all going to go to
college. Oh.
Yes they will. And Robyn makes another comment
and she's like, well, when they're eighteen, you don't
really get a real say in that. Yeah.
And then, yeah, that's like when Kody is like, I hope I don't get
any pushback on that at the camera, not even at Robyn.
Yeah, he won't even look at her. No, he's like saying it broadly,
as if putting everyone in their place.
He's putting her in her place. It's about her and her comments,
yeah. And it was great to see Janelle
right next to him kind of doing the same thing.
Like she didn't have to say it, but she was she was doing a
little bit of the like. It reminded me of like how the
queen is the neck and turns the head vibes.
Like Kody's saying it, but she and he have already discussed
this. It is very important to them.
And there's no if ands or buts. It's very awkward to watch
because Robbins had a few moments in this where she's been
snubbed, where she's acting like the head between the legs
and a few other things. And then there's this and she
gets shot down again and there's something going on right now in
the family. This whole Q&A is tense and
weird. There, I think the word that I
wrote down many times is awkward, like you were saying.
Like just awkward. Overall, but they don't talk
about their problems because they don't really have any, and
if they do, they don't want to talk about them.
It's best to just ignore things. It's best to just snub each
other on camera and try to make someone look like a fool.
Yes. Yes, they're literally making
each other look like fools. If my husband did that to me in
front of friends, said a comment like what Kody just
said, well, I hope I don't get any pushback on that.
And it was obviously about me to our friends.
You better believe that we'd be fucking fighting.
Later on you'd be giving him some pushback.
Yeah, there is no way that I would like, and I know me and my
husband have like said shit in front of you or like argued in
front of you and like we're comfortable in front of you.
But if I was like out in public or if there was like an
interview that was going to be posted and my husband did
something like that to kind of like snubby and belittle me, I
felt like it was belittling because you're not acknowledging
her. You're saying this broad
statement when everyone knows who it's about.
That wouldn't fly. That would not fly with me and I
don't think it should with anybody like your partner
should. Be.
A united front in front of people.
It does seem that they're not on the same page about this in a
way where it's almost another thing about that, another thing
that makes it awkward is almost like Kody and Janelle are
adamant about this. They're on the same page,
they're United front, and Robyn is talking about it in an
almost, if you don't recognize what I'm saying, like almost
dismissive, Like it's super obvious, like whatever.
And it's like, oh girl. She is, and it's almost like
they've never had this conversation with her before and
this is her first time piping up about it and she's not really
meaning it like in a sense that she completely.
Yes, it's not like she's saying like our kids should not go to
college. I mean.
But they're acting like that's what she's saying.
And so they're kind of making her look, like I said, like an
idiot. But also Robyn is probably the
least educated of all of them. And so they almost started like
making her look dumb like well, Robyn wouldn't get it so.
Well, did Robyn graduate from high school?
Unknown. Did Robyn graduate from middle
school? No one knows.
Like she might literally have been like an eighth grade.
I'm not going to cross any lines.
Well, when you're homeschooled, you can kind of flub that with
your kids. Like, I think a lot of these
very religious, like, strict upbringings where the parent is
homeschooling, and I'm putting that in quotes.
Their children, yeah. You get to pick and choose what
your kids are learning, and you're not going to be teaching
them what you don't think they're going to use, like
arithmetic. Arithmetic, I say.
That wrong, You got arithmetics. Arithmetics.
Arithmetics such as arithmetics and seance.
Aerodynamics. Aerodynamics and social
sciences. Yeah, Robyn, but she doesn't
know, could fill a lot of football fields the way that she
speaks, even the way like she's, you know, just looking at
Desai coming down the Pike like she is not a bright girl.
She's just not a bright girl. Our next question comes to us
from Rita. Rita like making a Margarita.
Rita. And Rita says since there's more
than one mom, which one pulls rank?
This one kind of seemed like an obvious question.
Like, duh, depends on the child. And that's what Meri says.
Yeah, she literally is like depends on the child.
Janelle says she does with her bio kids.
Duh. Kody of.
Course. Kody, this question is for the
wives. Yeah, but of course Kody has to
jump in and say, well, I pull rank.
Of course I do course corrections.
And then they like do flashback to Kody reprimanding Gabe and
from the past that it is so funny.
He's like tormenting Savannah or something.
And he's like, I can't remember what Gabe says, but something
like, oh, it's self-defense. Kody's like, it's just like,
it's clearly not self-defense. Yeah.
And I just love it cuz there are these moments from when Gabe is
really young that they show, like with the flushing or the
like thing in the toilet, the dolls in the toilet.
There's so many things that he does that are like, oh, that
little shit, that little troublemaker.
And you know, I guess as far as pulling rank, it's really just
about a disciplinarian vibe. Like he's the dad, he steps in
as a disciplinarian. I'm not sure that I would call
that pulling rank. I don't think he understood that
the question was for the wives because he's so self-centered.
Yeah, he's like I pull rank when they need course correction.
Like you said, course correction.
I don't think I would ever use that term, but OK.
And they do show a bunch of like, like, a montage of clips
of him with the kids, and they're kind of jokey clips,
like they're him stepping in, but also the kids not listening
to him right in each clip. So it's funny because he's
trying to say I pull rank, but then they're kind of clowning
him by showing clips where the kids aren't listening.
Yeah, it was funny. That is funny, and Meri wraps up
the question by saying ultimately, it's teamwork.
Teamwork makes the dream work. Had to wrap that up with a nice
little bow on the end there, didn't you, Mayor?
Nice little bow from mayor. 3 college girls sent this video in
and they asked. We are wondering what kind of
hair products Kody uses. All the parents laugh, all the
wives and Kody and I was really hoping to hear your
understanding of his answer. Darling, I'm looking forward to
this. Kody says that that's an easy
question. Then they show a clip of him
taking a towel and like, aggressively roughing his hair
up with a towel and flipping his head and Oh my gosh.
He says that he uses a cleanser, not a shampoo.
He doesn't call it a shampoo. He says I use a cleanser and
then I use a a scalp therapy and then I simply use a follicle
boost that is supposed to keep him from going bald.
Sounds pretty simple follicle. Boost.
And the cleanser instead of a shampoo while they're showing
these flashbacks to him doing his hair.
And you're right. And as he calls it, it's pretty
simple. And then they show him in this
montage of flailing his head all around and doing all these
things, and I'm like, he has such a showboat.
Like he literally can't even do his hair without drawing the
attention of everyone around him.
He flips his hair back in the clip, too, and he's like, let's
just leave it like that. It looks good like that.
Like trying to be funny, like, as if we really would believe
that's what he's doing. I know exactly what he's doing
here. I know that he's using like a
system. He's probably using like Nioxin
or Bosley shampoo. And then there's like a scalp
spray that you use that is supposed to, you know, stimulate
the follicle. And he can't think of the word
boost. He kind of like struggles to
figure out what it is that he's saying, even though he says it's
simple. I know what he's doing.
But then he's roughing his hair up so hard with that towel and I
just like, I want to grab the towel from him and be like, you
are negating everything that you are doing right now to keep
your hair because you are not supposed to rough your head up
like that with your towel, especially if you have like
fragile hair and you're. Concerned about losing it.
Like, don't rough it up. Yeah, pretty common sense.
And then also the convertible vibe.
His hair's constantly blowing in the.
Wind he's doing this stuff for his hair, but then he's also
like not really taking care of it.
But I, I will say that if you do start using something like this
to prevent hair loss, you have to continue using it like you
can't stop using it or you will lose the hair because it's
actually a hormone that comes out through the hair follicle
and it like suffocates the hair. It's like a whole thing.
So you're cleansing the follicle like out when you're using these
products and if you stop using it, you're going to go bald.
So, oh, I don't know, good to know.
It's interesting that he's like pretending that it's like this
simple routine and whatnot and. It's definitely not a simple
process, even though he claims it is, because he's doing many,
many things. Right.
And Robyn says it's quite the process to watch.
Turner fucking laughs. Imagine like watching your
husband do that every day. Oh boy.
Yeah, it's weird being one of those homos.
Like we've talked about. I'm not a hair homo like I am.
I have a full head of hair. I'm not worried about putting
anything on it to keep the follicules doing whatever
they're doing, right? Follicles doing whatever they're
doing. Thank God.
But if I was, then I wouldn't be like abrasively scrubbing my
head with a towel and letting it blow and high, I was gonna say
high octane winds. High velocity winds.
Yeah, like in a convertible, like, I would be like, you know,
taking better care of it. But Kody's, Kody's real bright.
It's his fifth wife.
Because it's vain. It's like vanity when it comes
to him. It's not like just a simple like
I'm trying to look nice for the day and get ready.
It's like a showboat thing, like you said, and like got to do
that like. There's a soundtrack to it, like
when he leaves the house and he goes out, he's hoping people
see the hair and recognize it's Kody Brown, like it's a
billboard on his head. He used to sell signs.
It's, it's literally look at me, look at me, look at me.
You, you see it when he's out and about and he's doing his
little like toss his little hair toss.
Head toss, Yeah. And so I think that's why it
bothers me to like watch him do the hair routine because it is
like such a the God, OK, like we know where you're going with
this. The thing I don't know.
Yep, Kody's gross. Yeah, well, yeah, I do
appreciate the fact that he does care about his appearance
though. Like, I don't know, some guys
don't even wash their butts so.
Yeah, let's not talk about that. That's disturbing.
It is very disturbing, so I will give him that.
Yeah, I'll give him that. Let's hope he cleans his butt.
We fucking hope so. The final question for this
amazing Q&A session with the Browns?
Oh, so titillate at all. We're about to end on a high
note. Oh God, get ready everybody, you
are going to be so happy, Chandra asks.
Wives, if one of you passed away, would another wife assume
parental rights of the children?
So that would be the topic would be death.
And Meri says absolutely. And then she starts sharing the
story of her sister's passing away from colon cancer, which
we've heard a few times. And it is a sad story.
And Meri starts getting emotional.
And as she's telling this story, it's I'm thinking, OK, I've
heard this story. I'm familiar.
Her sister dies and then her sister wives raise her children.
OK. And of course, it's you bring it
up and you might get emotional.
It's your sister. And she's, you know, even kind
of gives herself a hard time. Like, I can't believe this still
gets me. And it's like, well, we find out
why it does get you beyond your sister passing away because
there's this new detail that she shares that is actually
really touching. It is very touching and I almost
like teared up a little bit. And then I had to, you know,
share some information with Chris.
Like she says that her brother-in-law went to his other
wife and asked her if Meri's sister's kids, his other kids
could move in with her. And the sister wife said no,
that she would move into their home and raise them in their
house because they've been through enough already.
And I thought that was really special and a good, you know,
tidbit to share when somebody has small children.
The tears were welling up in my eyes.
I was. Literally very touched by this
story, it was very moving. She says that, you know, her
sister had four young kids. It's been 6 years since her
sister passed away. And the kids were really young
at the time. And I just can't even imagine
the children going through such a hard and devastating loss and
then to be taken out of your home and move into a new home
and be put into new family dynamic.
Granted, it's your sister, wife, other mother, other mom.
Yeah, it's still a different household and different rules.
And I just feel like if that ever happened to like me or like
if anything ever happened to me or my husband or both of us,
I would want my children to stay in our home and be at least
in one aspect of their life, not not having one aspect of
their life upended. Yeah, yeah.
I really appreciated that they shared that.
It was actually very touching. It really was.
And Meri reiterates that her sister's sister wife is raising
these kids as if in the same manner that Meri's sister would
have wanted. And that was very important.
And she's talked, she's touched on this before in the show.
We knew this, but the whole idea of being like, no, I'm not going
to take in her children into my home.
I'm going to move into their home.
It's really, really, really beautiful thing.
It is, and it's not something that a lot of people would
probably think of and you would hope that the person that's
going to be taking care of your children would have them in the
forefront of their mind and make a decision like that.
If you didn't offer it up yourself before passing that you
wanted that to be done. It would be a great thing for
somebody to offer and just do. And that just goes to show how
good of a person she was to do that.
And hopefully she's raising the kids as her sister wife would
have wanted. And it sounds like it just based
on that little thing alone like that seems like, I don't
know, pretty good. And I feel like as a human, I, I
could totally understand not even defaulting to that.
If you're in the situation of your sister, wife died, your
sister died, a close person, you're going to take care of
their children. I feel like I would default to
like, I don't want to live in their home.
I don't want to live in my dead sister's home.
I don't want to live in my dead friend's home because of the
memories and the things and what it would mean.
I mean, clearing out all their stuff or keeping their stuff.
There's just so many things where I feel like that doesn't
to me strike as selfish to not default to doing what you're
talking about, even though what you're talking about is great
and what Meri's sister's sister wife did is great.
Well, you're still going through a loss yourself, right?
But it's not about you. It's about the kids.
And it's about their loss is more significant than your loss.
And recognizing that and how can
you make that loss a little easier on them?
And moving into their home would make it easier on them.
How can you keep life as normal as possible for them?
And that would be a huge part of it, not taking them out of
their environment on top of everything that's happened.
And Meri makes a comment that it's times like this and it's
conversations like this that make her realize what a blessing
this lifestyle is for reasons like that.
Because she already knows that her sister wives would take in
Leon and she would want them to take in Leon and raise Leon as
she would. And she drew it back to them and
that's kind of how they wrap it up, is her touching on the fact
that her sister wives are a blessing.
And why do we end on this fucking question?
I don't know. Why do they end on the saddest
question of all? I do not know.
This whole Q&A was tragic from the beginning.
The setup, the outfits, the questions, the obvious tension
between them, the. Inappropriate question with the
children in the room. Yeah.
The sloppy editing, the sloppy setup, everything was just
terrible. This episode was it's
interesting because once again, we have talked about it at
length, right. So when we before we started
recording, we're like this one might be quick.
We might be like whatever. Nope, sorry.
You're in for another full episode here folks.
But there's an underlying like about.
This negativeness, yeah, there was a weird negative vibe the
entire time and I was like, oh God.
Well, Kimber, now is your time to bring some light and love and
brevity and happiness into people's lives by providing our
listeners with who your mustard seed is for this episode.
Who really moved you in a beautiful, positive way.
That voice was ridiculous. I've been making some weird
voices lately. I need to.
I need to chill out. You know, I'm going to give it
to Maddie for the cute story that she shared about Logan and
her and Logan protecting her from the tornado.
And they gave us that light, cute moment.
Yes, that was actually very cute.
So that was kind of the rainbow in this shitstorm for me.
I'm going to give my mustard seed to Meri, and any faithful
listener of this show will know that it pains me to do so, but
I'm giving it to Meri because it's a very touching story about
what happened with her sister. She shares the story with a
transparency that I appreciate.
And I mean, she almost made me cry in this episode.
So like, I guess that means I got to give Meri my mustard
seed. Yeah I agree that was probably
the most touching of the touching ish moments.
Now who is going to be your shit stain?
My shit stain is going to go to Robyn Brown.
She left a smear in my underwear that I was not happy about.
It wasn't my smear, it was Robyn's.
And when she talked about going over to scrub Christine's toilet
after Truly Scrumptious was born, I thought that toilet
wasn't dirty enough. It needed to be more filthy.
And Christine's house is always filthy, so she could have had
her work cut out for her. She needed double time.
She needed to go to a rest stop. We should have brought Robyn to
the rest stop on the side of the highway and been like clean
it with a toothbrush. Robyn, you are a shit stain.
Yeah, she was being real weird this entire time.
She was trying to be so cute and so funny and coy and flippant
with her answers, like, oh, just like flying up the seat of my
pants trying to be cute. And it was not landing.
And she didn't catch it. And then when she finally did
kind of catch it, it was just so awkward.
And that is why I'm going to give my shit stain to Kody Brown
because he belittled Robyn. And as much as I don't like her,
there was the moment with the education where he belittled
her. And then I feel like he
belittled like his children a few times with some of his
answers and not maybe treating them with respect.
Like you still need to treat your children with respect.
And some of the answers made me question if he really does that,
if he looks at them as individuals or just like his
chattel. Yeah.
I don't think he looks at them as individuals like real people
like no. Yeah, I feel like he had more
than a few times in this where he was angry, like obviously
upset, and then talked down upon people.
It was odd. And something is going on here.
There is tension.
There's not a lot of answers from Janelle and Christine.
There's not a lot of depth to most of their answers that were
given, and I don't know why they even did this.
Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah, definitely felt like weird
filler and last minute and poorly executed.
Very strange. Yeah, our real shit stain is
going to go to the producers because what the fuck?
What the? Fuck was that?
What was it? Why?
Why Our keep Sweep moment this week comes to us from Aunt
Carrie 11. Hi, Aunt Carrie 11 Kimber, say
hi. Hi.
And Aunt Carrie 11 says the commercial broke in for me just
as you started to say your kids won't pick up their effing.
And it sounded like you were getting censored and I freaking
cracked up. It was so funny.
I love you too. And thank you, Aunt Carrie 11,
for the love. We love you too.
That is ironic that it would cut in right there.
I love it. Your kids don't pick up their F
and bleep. I hope we don't get any more
Q&A's in the near future. Same.
Next episode is the final episode of season 4 and I think
it's something about Logan, his next step in life like leaving
high school, going to college, doing.
Something off in a convertible in the Sunset Grease style.
Oh my gosh, into the. Sky hang up into the sky and
code is convertible. And who's in the car with him?
This girlfriend that he doesn't have, that he hasn't kissed
them. And she puffs her hair and turns
around and gives us a little wink as they drive off.
Yes, and if I could ask for anything it would be more
hookers and less. Q&A.
'S less Q&A's and more hookers.
Do you hear me puddle monkey? More hookers.
God bless.