What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You shut it off.
Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim.
Sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
That's what you saw. That day, just the knife in the
kidneys over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to
love you. We are entering the fifth season
now. Here on earth.
We have Four Seasons, winter, spring, summer and fall.
The Brown family is entering the fifth season, the Celestial
season, where you can find their celestial Kingdom, which we
will never ever see. And it seems like it is the same
season of their life yet again, where they're looking for homes
next to each other. Yes, a lot has happened since
our last episode, which is actually nothing has happened.
So we're all up to speed. If you've listened to Season 4
then you're all up to speed. Nothing has happened since
season 3 technically because they ended in the same exact
spot. Yes yes Season 5 episode 1
polygamous death threat. Polygamous death threat Insert
sound effect. The episode opens with another
sumMeri of their move to Vegas.
So we need to be reminded again and again and again that they
moved to Vegas. The kids were not happy about
this but. Before they even summarize the
moving to Vegas yet again, the 1st recap that they do is the
surrogacy offer. For some reason.
Let's bring that up again. End of season 3 surrogacy offer,
We're going to bring that up at the very beginning of season
5, OK? Because we need to bring it back
to that always. That happened so long ago now in
the timeline. I just, I don't know, it blows
me away that that has to be the first thing that's brought up
again. Of course, welcome to Season 5.
First thing you see is a
reminder of the surrogacy that we've all been beat over the
head with. Yep.
After the review of the surrogacy, there is a broader
sumMeri of their move to Vegas, which gives Kody another
opportunity to talk about how the kids are unhappy and how no
one liked the move and that they are in four different homes.
He references how their family culture is crumbling, quote UN
quote crumbling with them being in four separate homes.
And I thought that was interesting that he says their
family culture is crumbling. This show is weird because it's
there's like a this thing about the nature of the show where
we're just going along for this journey and whatever, but the
entire time that the show is airing, they're talking about
their family culture crumbling.
From the very first episode, Christine talks about how she is
not looking forward to having another wife joining the family.
It's like the whole show,
they're telling us that things are not going well, but then
they're showing a bunch of things that are trying to get us
to think that, look, things are going well and they're figuring
things out and we're just along for the journey.
When in all reality, the underlying thing is that
everything is falling apart and everything's terrible and
horrible. Yeah, they even have to show
meltdowns of the children during the recap because of the move.
They show Leon's meltdown during the move.
They show a lot of the older children's meltdowns during the
move, and yeah, they keep harkening back to the family
crumbling, the change in the family dynamic and how they're
trying to get it back to that. They're just running on
treadmill trying to get back to the way things were.
Yes, how they used to be when they were back at America's
home, the compound in Lehigh. Lehigh.
The flashbacks do include, at the end, all of the adults at
the cul-de-sac writing their checks for their properties,
which is of course a highlight of Season 4.
How could we ever forget that they all wrote checks from the
same place? But we don't know.
Not quite sure, perhaps. We could have another reminder
that they have 30 days to get their financing in order.
They need qualification approvals for financing in 30
days. OK, we got it.
We've been beat over the head. They've got 30 days.
They have 30 days to get their credit in order and to get an
approval letter for their financing.
There's a moment where Christine is talking about how Janelle
always paid for the bills when they all live together and that
this is her first time. Like basically living alone and
being responsible for the bills of her homestead.
And so she says this is her first time paying for utilities
and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, oh, a little
foreshadowing because this detail you wouldn't really care,
but it's coming up because we reference it later.
Yep, and she mentions that Robyn and Janelle's credit is not
great, but that hers is OK. And Meri's should be OK as well,
but particularly Robyn. Robyn is going to have some
trouble here, which I love. I also find it super interesting
that she's saying Janelle's credit isn't good and I was a
little shocked by that because Janelle is the one that's in
charge of the finances or has in the past been in charge of the
finances and keeping the family on track.
So in my mind, I automatically went to Janelle has taken on the
responsibility of the debt, doesn't mean that it actually is
hers. Probably not.
Is the reason that she has bad credit because of the rest of
the family and she feels responsible, so she took it on
because she's in charge of the finances.
Like I kind of got a bad feeling there.
I personally think that Janelle's not good with
finances. I think that in this family,
she's the one that can put pluses and minuses in a
spreadsheet or can keep a Ledger and a checkbook.
But I don't think that she's good with money.
I don't think any of these people are good with money.
And I think that just because Janelle, they give her the title
of the bookkeeper and the person, that's whatever, I could
see that she would take on debt that's not hers for some
reason, because they like pooled things and they stole from
Paul to feed Meri or whatever the phrases are, you know?
And so that makes sense. It does go against the narrative
of like, oh, Janelle's so on top of everything with the
finances. And I'm like, I don't think she
is. Yeah, they claim that she's the
frugal one, right? She's always the one that's
putting her needs last. And we hear that time and time
again. She doesn't want to buy things.
She doesn't want to buy sleeping
bags for the camping trip, right?
And yet her credit might not be great.
Yeah, I don't know that there's such a direct connect with
between being cheap and being good at finances, but.
They try to make it that way. We go to the next scene and
Robyn is going to a law office to see Stephanie, the lawyer, to
help repair her credit. She's blaming the divorce, of
course. Of course she is.
Blames the divorce and says that she took on the debt to create
peace. And I went, what?
What? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I totally believe that, too.
Like, I just don't believe anything these people say
anymore. I have a feeling my spider
sense, my Spidey sense tells me that Robyn was forced to take
the debt because it was hers. I suspect that she probably just
ran up a bunch of debt. I guess her ex-husband isn't
dumb enough to be like, yeah, I'll just take all of your debt.
Like, I don't really know, but there's no way to prove that.
There's absolutely no way to prove that he racked up a bunch
of debt and she took it to keep the peace.
I don't think that's likely. So I don't know.
This whole episode, she is lying through her teeth.
Oh, yeah. You can tell because some of the
things that they show and some of the conversations they show
are having. I would probably be crying if I
was her if it was really the case.
Like if that's really what she was saying, I'd probably be
crying. And we know her as sobbing
Robyn, the fact that she's talking about this stuff and not
crying and being so adamant and has her jaw in this certain
position. She does the little like, upward
thing with the jaw. Like, she's like got her nose in
the air a little bit when she's lying, and she's doing that the
entire episode. She is lying for most of this
episode I would assume. Maybe there was other stuff
going on and she decided to take on the debt instead.
I just don't buy it. I don't buy it.
I don't know, and this is going to be gendered and horrible,
but most women that I know or I hear their stories when they
leave, their version of wanting to keep peace is not asking
for child support. It is not asking for spousal
support, It's not assuming the family's debt.
So I've just never heard of this before and it's not like I'm
an expert in the field by any stretch, but I've never heard of
a woman being like, I took the debt of our marriage when we got
divorced. Like no, I've never heard of
that. No, not unless you were like
fleeing and you were like scared and just like needed to get
out of there. What she tries to play it off
as, which is what she's trying to play this off as like this
poor like she's almost playing like battered woman syndrome
here. And I don't like it.
It's phony and something super fishy about it.
And she's a lying to Kody. She is a lying to him and it
just feels very much like she's trying to convince him, even
throughout this episode, of her innocence in the divorce.
Yeah, she gets to be a victim. She loves doing that.
And her whole marriage, her whole first marriage, the
divorce, all the whatnot, there's a lack of detail.
There's never any real examples given.
It's just that like a broad brush stroke of him being
terrible and him being horrible.
And he's not here to defend himself.
He doesn't get to have any say in anything.
And I think there might also be an element of how in life, as
time passes from things, you build up a different narrative
in your head even. If you rewrite history in your
own mind and you start to believe what you, yeah, are
telling yourself and. I think, yeah, maybe he was an
asshole to her because she was a loser wife that was spending all
their money and ridiculous and wouldn't get a job.
I mean, I have no who knows what the deal is.
Yeah. I just have a hard time
believing that he was so bad and he was so horrible and she was
angelic and whatever, because that just doesn't go with what I
know about Robyn. Yeah, I wish that we knew more
about their history because obviously, like, I believe women
and we don't know what happened and God forbid he was
actually abusive and she just never wants to talk about it,
which is completely understandable and her right.
But I don't feel like that's the case.
And I feel like most women watching this, like, you can
suss things like this out. And it just feels very grimy.
And it feels like she's trying to convince Kody throughout this
whole episode and convince other wives throughout this
whole episode of this narrative and this story that
she's built up to them to make them feel sorry for her.
Yeah. It's just super fishy.
Super fishy. Not very believable.
And Meri on the couch, she's like, they go from the scene,
you know, she's in the law office.
She needs to get her credit score up to 600.
And then they go to the couch and Meri claims they are working
together and they are not blaming anyone.
We will not blame anyone. No, of course not.
How very diplomatic of Meri. In that same couch moment, Kody
says that the sum of their holes are greater than any
parts, which I love because I'm like, Oh my God, it wasn't
too long ago we were talking about Robyn's holes in a
previous episode, and now Kody's talking about the sum of
all of their holes is greater than the sum of their parts, or
whatever the phrase is. And I was like, oh good Lord, oh
good Lord. All of their holes are
definitely greater than the sum of his parts.
Yes, well, that's that's for sure.
What is it that the only thing they have in common is sharing
his manhood? Yeah, yeah.
His manhood is what ties them together.
Oh God. They go back to the lawyer's
office and Robyn is asking if this can all be done in two
weeks. Two weeks.
If the lawyer can get her creditors settled in two weeks.
Right nuts.
I'm mind blown here. It's also weird because they had
30 days and So what was it like?
Maybe she couldn't see this person for two weeks.
But also, if you're filming, you have to be able to pull strings
with certain things. And it just seems more, you
know, Occam's razor, like all things being equal, the most
basic and most reasonable is probably true.
Robyn probably didn't do anything for like a week and
then was like, oh God, no, she she didn't.
Someone else told her that she had to do something about it.
I'm sure because she was so busy doing what?
She was so busy doing what, this entire time she's on the show.
I'm not saying that, oh, your show gets greenlit by TLC.
So you go out and get a job at a gas station because you have to
make ends meet, but you do something.
We're now going into Season 5 and she's Hawking some stupid
jewelry business. It's like, bitch, earn some
money, do something. Oh God.
Well, the other family members like Kody and Meri are perhaps
selling pyramid scheme items, so she could have hopped on that
bandwagon very easily. But.
She might have to do some social media posts and host a party.
You know, these are things she could not do.
Just too much for her. I don't think she has the mental
capacity for her. Christopher.
No, no, no. No.
Got a lot of laying around breathing watching other people
raise their children I. Don't understand.
I really don't get it. I think from the get go, when
you move there and you know you're looking for these homes,
you'd already be starting to try to build your credit back
up. Right.
Why would you only need 30 days?
Yeah. I think Kody said they'd been in
Vegas for a year and a half at this point.
A year and a half. I mean, I don't know about
everybody else. I've been in a place where I've
had to work on my credit before, and in a year and 1/2, I
made quite an impact. Like, it doesn't necessarily
take years to improve your credit score.
Like, Oh my God, Oh my God. And I really think that if her
credit had been this bad, that when she left her husband, she
should have instantly filed for bankruptcy, started over because
she'll say later on that she lived with her mom for a while.
She has this whole sob story
that she's Hawking instead of cheap goods.
And it's like, why wouldn't you have with your children, you
know, filed for bankruptcy, applied for, you know, whatever
assistance you could have gotten during that time and started
working when you supposedly you were a single working mom at
that time? Staying at your mom's house for
nine months, I believe later, she references nine months is a
chunk of time to get your act together, like it is to apply
for jobs and apply for programs, go through bankruptcy, like do
what you've got to do. Yeah, but she thinks that
someones going to get her out of this.
She has this victim mentality. She has this woe is me, someone
come save me, help me please, like demeanor about her.
And even this just goes to show it because two weeks you had to
wait until you had two weeks left and somebody pushed you to
be like, well, we can't do this for you.
You have to go do this. You're technically not married.
He can't do it for you. Like, Oh my fucking God.
She had to be drugged there by her fingernails.
Someone else probably had to make the appointment and do
everything and then she bothered to show up.
Yeah. Also, we're going to get into it
later. I don't want to dwell on it too
much right now, but that whole victim mentality thing, she also
has this thing where she's like, I don't want my past decisions
and my previous marriage to affect the family.
So it's like she's a victim, but then also bringing it to the
next level of like, I can't believe these bad things that
happened to me in the past could affect the family.
So then she's almost a victim again because these things are
happening to her family members like.
Girl, you drove that entire baggage cart right up to their
front door. Shut the fuck.
Up Yes, she did. And she was like do you mind?
OK. And this can't go in the dryer
like? Do you mind?
Do your own fucking laundry. Is that a personal attack,
Chris? I've never heard any stories
about you or your laundry. OK.
Never has my husband ever shrunk something that shouldn't have
been shrunken. Yes, well, and this is Oh well,
perfect, because this is where Robyn talks about how her
divorce affects the family. Now I've only got a couple of
weeks left. It's like an example of your
life. Sure.
It's just so ridiculous. It's so unnecessarily dramatic,
and she's the victim and everything's uphill.
It's like, girl, you had a year and a half to get your shit.
You knew this was. Coming No, I was given two weeks
I was. Given two weeks, I.
Was given two weeks of my diagnosis of credit.
God. Jesus 20.
Three years from now, the story will be Robyn was forced into
getting a mortgage and it was so terrible.
Or some bullshit, you know, like, it'll just be like, Oh my
God, girl. Like perpetually the victim.
Virtually the victim. Thank God we get a commercial
break. OK, but because we watch on
Discovery Plus, Ding Ding. Ding I back at it.
We didn't have to see any commercials, thank you
Discovery. Plus, I'm just saying that in
case anyone's listening that wants to reach out to us anyway.
So Janelle is going on her own little version of a field trip,
but hers isn't to figure out how to solve her debt issues in
two weeks. Hers is to go meet Mona at a
model house at the, I was going to say the compound at the
development, yes, the cul-de-sac and the development where
they're moving to. And I love it because she
prefaces this visit with wanting to connect with Mona and look
at the model house to see where she can keep costs low for her
home build. Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep.
Our frugal queen. Listen, she might be bad at
keeping books. Doesn't mean she's not frugal.
Doesn't mean she's not cheap. She is.
The only reason that she's being cheap, and I think that we
find this out a little bit, is because of guilt.
Because of guilt for being a bad bookkeeper for the family.
Right, because everything's always in shambles.
But see, they never had much to deal with.
So I don't want to be mean about Janelle.
I just really think that, you know, like when everyone's
earning an F and then you earn AD, it's like, well, you're the
one. You're our D earner.
Like, cool. Everyone turns to you.
Everyone turns to the D student.
She believes that less rooms is going to equal less money.
So she's talking about how she just doesn't need that many
rooms. Her kids are all going to be
moving out and graduating soon. In the next few years, her boys
can share a bedroom. They're probably going to hate
it, but they can share. Yeah.
My God.
Kody thinks that they should do the five bedroom option with the
office and then Savannah can stay in the office.
So basically like a six bedroom house.
Yeah, it's probably not legally. Maybe the office doesn't have a
closet. My assumption is that the models
that they're picking from, there is something to do with
the options that are available equaling the bedrooms.
Meaning let's say there's a four bedroom option and then a five
bedroom option. The five bedroom option probably
has like a little bit of a difference in the back or
something where there's a little more room and there's more
options to put in the home. I'm saying this because when we
get to Meri's options down the road, she wants options that
only come with the five bedroom, not the four bedroom layout.
So of course she has to pick the one with more bedrooms because
she needs the options that come with the five bedroom option.
What a selfish bitch. Exactly.
Meanwhile Janelle's going I only need 4 bedrooms for my 87
children. It's like Janelle, you know?
Yeah, maybe you should pick builder grade options everywhere
and just get enough bedrooms for your children.
That's what I would do. But that's me.
I'm not earning AD in bookkeeping.
Allow your kids some privacy, you know, but they're probably
not supposed to have too much privacy because that could lead
to sin so. It's best that they share a.
Room. Let's keep them all on top of
each other so they can't sin on their own.
No sinning in private. We do get some tidbits from
Janelle about their past finances.
She says that she has been resentful in the past about
money, particularly with Meri, for thinking Meri needs so much
with only one child. She talks about how she would
pay for large things in the past while otherwise didn't.
So I'm not sure what that has to.
I don't want to say what that has to do with today.
I think that was probably more of a past a pre TLC money thing
where she was the breadwinner. And I could see easily being
frustrated when you're looking at all the bills and maybe you
pay the mortgage or something. And then it's like Meri's got
like the heat bill and the water bill.
And then it's like, look at my coffee table.
No child is ever going to scratch their name into this,
you know? And Janelle's like, yeah, mine's
from IKEA and it's falling apart.
And so you know, I can see it may need to make sense.
Yeah, she's always made more money and then paid more towards
the bills and she has kind of resented it in the past.
But I think that when there is a higher earner in the family,
usually from my experience, the higher earner and the lower
earner, what you do is you, you put it together and you say
based on what you make, you pay this percentage towards the
bills. I pay this percentage.
So it's like equal in the end, almost based off of what you're
making. So your take home after the
bills are paid is still kind of the same, if that makes sense.
Like you're still taking home the same percentage as your
partner's taking home for, you know, maybe things that they
want to buy what you want to buy.
So it's it's odd to me that they probably, it sounds like they
didn't do that. It sounds like they turned to
Janelle and just expected her to pay more and didn't even figure
out the percentage that each family member should be paying
based on their wage. Right.
It feels like to me that she has been funding the family on her
salary and they're riding her coattails.
And you throw in a husband who I'm convinced through fact and
detective work, no, no detective work, that Kody probably has
made very little money in his life.
And I think that it's even easier to make less money when
you're going from wife to wife to wife to wife.
And if the only one who's really aware of how little money you
make is Janelle in the way that I'm talking about, that has to
add extra frustrations to her that she's not going to say
right now, like she's not going to say that on camera.
But her husband was probably never really contributing all
that much to their finances. They talk about Meri and Kody
quitting jobs to go and do things that were more fun than
taking care of. Finances like traveling, sales,
jobs that were like what, Meri Kay, you got your little
convertible? I mean, come on.
They, I don't know, I think that they have taken advantage of her
and I think that they have basically used her as a meal
ticket and she's just kind of taken it because that's how she
is like silent but sturdy. I don't know, Silent.
And. Sturdy, silent and sturdy,
Janelle it's. Janelle.
But now that she has heard Meri's voice, Meri has all of a
sudden figured out a way to communicate her hurt about how
she thinks everyone expects her to take less because she only
has one child. Well Meri's finally been able to
effectively communicate this like 2 episodes so it's go on
the couch. So Janelle has defaulted to
shoulder shrug. I mean, she doesn't really care.
She doesn't care.
They show one clip of this cracked me up.
They show one thing that Janelle wants and she is talking to
Mona about one thing that she does want in her house and
that is a pantry. Pantry.
And it's because she buys in bulk.
Yep. It's got a lot of mouths to
feed. That's like a literally the only
thing that she really cares about is the pantry.
From what they show us anyways.
Oh and the member, like she was like, oh, I don't necessarily
need a dining room because my table could fit right here like
in the breakfast area. Which they're just going to cut
this house in half for you to like save money, but then you're
going to have a giant ass lot for no reason.
Like what are you thinking? I could cut this entire space
and put a dining room here instead of here to save money.
Do you honestly think they're going to do that with a builder
home for you? It was so weird.
I think what she's referring to, and this is just because I've
seen the show, seen these things being built, is when you walk
in, there's a room to the left off the foyer.
Some people turn it into a study, some people have it as
the dining room. I think that might be the option
to turn into the office or something, AKA Savannah's
bedroom, and then the breakfast nook thing off of the kitchen
can just serve as her dining room.
The only reason I feel like that's a little weird is because
of the size of their family. But if she's like I'm never
hosting anybody ever fucking dinner, then you know the dining
room. The breakfast looks probably
fine. And the fact that Savannah is
probably gonna have two French doors for bedroom doors.
Yeah. Oh yeah, with no.
Like Savannah, I know that you gave a box of rocks for
Christmas one year, but you still don't deserve this honey.
Like you don't deserve you.
Deserve a real bedroom in a new build in a new build.
Yeah, you don't deserve French doors.
Don't even. Get a bedroom like my God, these
people. They just can't let that box of
rocks go. And so they're like, yeah, give
her this. Kody's like that bitch gave me
the worst Christmas present or birthday present or whatever it
was. It was Leon's gift.
Oh, that's right, it was Leon's.
Oh, that's right. Shit.
Leon's been talking shit this whole time, Leon.
Is not everyone against Savannah?
They have this huge campaign against Savannah, yes, telling
everybody. Savannah ruined my life with
that box rocks. Denton.
Janelle lets us know that each wife will get the same budget
for their homes because you know, it is unfair to give less
to Meri because she only has one child.
So everyone should have the same budget.
Makes it easy peasy lemon squeezy and all fair in love and
war. This is once again why I think
Janelle earns AD in bookkeeping because duh.
Like, I get it that it's a production point and like, she's
probably prompted about it, but it's like, yeah, all four
wives should get the same budget for their new build
homes. I hope she's just explaining it
because someone asked. I think she really did just come
to that conclusion because she talks about how it's been harder
for her and Christine with having more kids and how they've
had to budget a lot harder and that, OK, I guess we can't pant,
pant. I got marbles in my mouth.
I guess that we can't fault her.
I've got Savannah's boxer rocks in my mouth right now, God damn
it. Garbling them over here.
And they ain't polished. Oh well, I mean, it would be
harder for her and Christine. They have more kids.
That doesn't mean Meri deserves less.
We talked about this before. I truly believe that she is just
coming to this conclusion, right?
I really think that. Well, good for Janelle.
Yeah, we cut to her sitting at her table, and she's paying
those bills. She's writing out her checks.
She's ripping it out of the checkbook.
She's licking the envelope with Janelle's licking lips and her
tongue. Yep.
She's paying those bills. When they cut away from her
couch interview, she has this deadpan face, she makes a
comment, she says OK, I don't care what she does, referring to
Meri. And then she stares straight at
the camera with her like deadpan, like white pale face
and eyes, just like haunting, like staring straight ahead.
Yeah, non blinking. Yeah, I don't care what she
does. I don't care what she does.
Do you not really couldn't tell that you don't.
It was it was a crazy thing that they kept in.
Yeah, that was a choice. They kept it in for a reason.
That was a choice. Janelle doesn't look like she
doesn't care. It looks like it still bothers
her. Oh.
Her eyes is like twitching. Yeah, her mouth is saying one
thing, but her eyes, nose, and yes, that skin is saying
another. Yeah, they really, truly kept
that in for a reason. After this wonderful moment, she
wonders to herself, she ponders to herself, I've
wondered what it would mean if one day I was done and ran away.
But I'm not going to because I'm
responsible. I've always, yeah, I've always
done the record keeping for the family.
And I've just wondered, but what would happen if I just ran
away? Like, yeah, you've probably
really, really thought of this. The, the guy like her sitting at
a table doing this like, quote UN quote, record keeping,
writing checks. And then there's just a fish
tank in the background. And it's just like her again,
being so serious yet not caring, but wanting to run away.
And they're breaking the 3rd wall a lot in this episode.
The 4th wall. The 4th wall, What would be the
3rd wall? Like you're being in a triangle
room. I don't really know.
I think this is not the first time that you've referenced
breaking the 3rd wall. And I'm like, it's the 4th wall,
darling. It's the 4th wall, yes.
They're talking straight to the wives a lot, like the producers
are obviously prompting with a lot of questions in this episode
and there's a lot of alone time for each of them and it's
tragic. Yeah, to give us their extra
special insights. To their own detriment.
Well, in Janelle's case, there's a lot of staring.
A lot of staring and faking it till she makes it, but she
doesn't make it. A lot of this is how it is
because I'm matter of fact, I'm Janelle.
I'm the bookkeeper. Like OK, girl.
Hey, hey, instead of sitting at your desk with a blank wall,
let's put you at your table in front of a fish tank.
Pull her at the table thing. This is why I'm making fun of
it. She's like ripping out her one
check, right? She's like writing her check.
She's is she even paying a bill? She might just be sitting there
being like, I'm going to do this for the camera.
Like it's just like, I don't know, I don't know.
It's performative and not in a way that I'm buying so.
It is. They also don't blur the check
out at all and I've noticed that they do that with her and
Christine. Oh no.
Well, not like anyone would be like I know.
Did you get the account number? Steal money from these guys.
Don't say anything because now if someone steals money from
her, they're going to be like that podcast.
They were looking at her checking routing number.
It's like the same from 2012. Right.
We tried to write a $30 check and it bounces and it's like,
good God, this family's terrible.
It's their joint account still, no one's ever detached from it,
even after all these years and everything that's happened.
My sister wifes closet Oh, it's an online boutique and
everybody's loving it I'm. Going to make us so much money.
They're going to be rich, rich,
rich. You on the wildest imagination.
You're going to want to rewind.
You're going to want to get that checkbook number real quick
because my sister wife's closet is bringing in the bike.
You're going to want you're going to want to come in fraud
to get these jewelry pieces. Just like they apparently do
later on. Oh gosh, the closet up.
Sell things that they don't have.
Oh. Jeez, yes, well, you know, they
have to get some photos for their new website for My Sister
Wife's Closet because My Sister Wife's Closet is going to propel
them into the rich stratosphere.
They are going to not have to worry about anything once they
start selling their $300 pewter jewelry online.
Pewter, great. It's going to be great.
And they're going to meet with a photographer to take photos
for this website. Apparently this is the most
creative photographer. He's renowned for his creativity
and I'm like renowned to who to like Robyn when she's down at
the like, wherever she goes, where does she even go?
What does she even do? She's like, going to the Kmart
to buy her blue light special shirts, purple blouses.
And she's like, I heard there's a photographer in town.
And the Kmart lady's like, yeah, I know this guy's name's
Shane. He's so creative because he
wears a black fedora and a red tie and big thick black glasses.
He.
Wears those thick glasses. He must be real creative like my
God. Very of the time, the fedora the
red tie the. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, to be fair, he looked like the most creative person in
the Sister Wives universe at this point.
Yep, Now while they're at the studio, you know they're all,
they're all dolled up, they're all in their hair and their
makeup and their clothes. In their hair.
And they've got the white backdrop and the flashing
lights, and it's like we're watching an episode of America's
Next Top Model. Of course.
I was just waiting for Mr. J to come out and be like, now this
shot, we're going to do this, and then this shot, we're going
to do that. And then I really was hoping for
Tyra to eliminate Robyn, right?
Just like, get the fuck out. But unfortunately, no one's
getting eliminated this episode. While they're on set.
Kody has some feelings about the wives and him being the only man
right, with his four wives taking these photos.
Kimber, what does Kody think about this photo shoot?
Oh my gosh, he just thinks that he's going to look like a pool
boy or a boy toy being in all these women in this photo shoot.
But Christine is the real, real
winner of this scene because you know what?
She says that women with websites and companies have
pictures with their husbands on their website because they do
it together and they get the support from their husband and
they're in all the photos. It's like, what are you talking
about to? Demonstrate that they're strong.
What? I know I'm thinking like how how
could one person single handedly set back women kind so far?
But then it is Christine Brown.
Yeah, she's. Trying to get involved in this
and she's getting mad at him and they're arguing on set of this
on photo shoot on location. They're arguing on location.
And literally Kody's saying it's my sister wife's closet jewelry.
Why would I be in the photos?
I feel like it should just be the women and she's.
Like Faker? And I don't believe him for one
second. He he would prefer it was just
photos of them. I'm gonna.
Throw punches, hold me back like that.
Like that one friend that can't fight and says that hold me
back hold. Me back, you can just Photoshop
me out of these, right? He's like right in the middle of
every one of them. If he could be the only one on
the website, he'd be happy about it.
He's just putting on a show, just like Robyn saying, oh, I
just don't want my past marriage to affect the family.
But he's like, I don't want to be in these photos because it's
about women. Like they're two liars.
They belong together. And then Robyn makes it all
better by saying you're just like that one guy that can pull
off pink shirt shirt. God, it was so when you thought
this scene couldn't get any Dumber, Robyn's like, yeah,
Kody, I mean, you're a big, strong man here with us women.
And it's like when a man wears a pink shirt like, Oh my God.
Like wait, how many poles is he wearing and are all the collars
popped? OK.
God, it's so cringe and it's so great because Christine's
frustration levels keep rising and she's like, can we just get
the photos done? Because I'm getting hot, I'm
going to get sweaty. Like, let's do it.
She just wants it done. And I don't blame her.
It's hot under those lights. I know.
You would know. It's a lot of pressure to look
perfect for the camera. How many photo shoots have you
done in your life? Too many to count.
Too many hold me back, hold me back.
Oh my gosh. The photographer tells them we
want a variety of photos and positioning to, you know, not
demonstrate any favoritism because clearly they've got to
do their round Robyn. No, God, let's not say that.
They've got to do their readjustments.
So not Meri and Janelle are always standing next to Kody.
Sometimes Robyn and Christine need to be standing next to
Kody. They need some photos without
Kody. They need some photos that are
only Kody and that red spot on his nose that's been there for a
season and a half. Like he really needs to be in
the photos. He really needs to not be in the
photos. Yeah, he's like every time that
I was ready to move on and do different photos, the wives kept
saying that we just needed to rotate the order.
And he's like, I found out real quick, like the family dynamic,
we can't play favorites. And they literally are just
like, OK, now you go, now you go, Oh my gosh, ladies, if
you're that insecure about your position in the family, phony
as fuck that they all care about.
I kind of felt like it was just like a moot point.
Like if you're a photographer and you're taking a photo of
four women and one man, you would be like, OK, let's flip
this around, let's swap it around.
You move here, you move that. Like it would just be part of
the process. So it's a little like they took
a little thing and made it into a big thing, which is annoying.
Yeah, because they pretend that
he's like shocked about it and like, oh, this is a new dynamic.
This is something that I've had to, that I had to learn that I
had to do all this and. I'm such a creative man, I've
never asked someone to move while taking their picture
before. And then they kick Kody out and
they're doing all of the women and they're laughing and being
happy and he has them stand like weirdly far apart.
Yeah. He's like, give it a foot or two
between each of you. Like, OK.
All right. Hopefully there were ones where
they were all together. There were there were ones where
they were like hands around each other's shoulders and smiling.
And it demonstrated what Robyn's point was that she thinks the
photos show how all the wives are so different.
They look so different and they, yes, they present so
different. They're wearing different
colors. Yeah.
They're different complexions. That's what makes this all so
special, is like our differences and like these photos are just
going to show that. Yeah, the differences also
connect to my sister wife's closet for some reason.
We're all of our products are going to be so great because
everyone's so different. We're different.
Like, yeah, no, you're putting a bunch of hearts together and
yeah, linking them and making them all a.
Bunch of hot air. Bizarre.
Total garbage. Did you notice that?
So they do, you know, pick flashes to Kody during the
women's photo shoot and he's still over there, like posing on
the side, like along with him, but he doesn't know that he's
doing it. They're like showing him and
he's like doing like poses on the side still and like smiling
like he's on the camera with them.
And it's like. You can't stop a you can't stop
a shot. You can't.
You can't stop a star from shining, honey.
You can't stop a charlatan in his tracks.
You can't stop a star from shining like Koda Brown.
Nope, Nope, Nope. It was a lot to take in and
let's move on. We're only slightly traumatized.
We're going to cut to the
streets of Las Vegas where the hookers are hanging out and the
drug dealers and hookers and the gamblers and hookers.
And the flashing lights. The flashing lights and Maddie's
walking these streets like a street Walker, like a hooker
with her two girlfriends, some bland girls who I don't care
about. Did you catch their names?
No, but they are all wearing matching black shirts and they
are strutting their stuff down the strip.
Oh. Strutting down the strip.
They all literally were wearing like matching black T-shirts.
They thought this was the cutest thing ever.
I probably would have thought the same if I was that age doing
that. While Maddie is strutting the
streets with her whore friends.
We find out they're going to go zip lining these little.
Whores. They are going to go zip lining,
but Janelle, Kody and Maddie are also on the couch.
The producers are giving us some extra special insights into
their delicate lives. Janelle tells us that she felt
like a failure as a mother when she was moving her children to
Las Vegas and she should have felt like a failure as a mother
just a little bit. Maddie doesn't know if she wants
to move back to Utah or not because she's made some friends,
but she misses her life back in Utah.
We're still talking about this. I don't want to talk about this.
Do you want to talk about this?
They're just trying very hard to get emotions out of Maddie and
she's clenched up, like in her face.
She's not really giving them anything.
And you can tell that they're trying to get her to, like,
emote and make a thing on this couch and she's not doing it for
them. And she's probably burnt out,
you know, talking about it at this point.
They talk about drinking and partying and oh, she doesn't
drink. She's not going to screw up her
life. She's not a drinker.
They start talking about how she's not brainwashed by
religion and. Yeah, she doesn't want to get
sloppy. She doesn't want to be sloppy.
She does hang out with some people that drink, but that's
not her lifestyle. It's like they're trying to get
something out of her. And I kind of just feel bad for
her. Like she's a teenage girl and
she's sitting there with both of her parents and it just feels
really awkward. Like you said, her and her
horror friends go ziplining, which is like whatever, who
cares? Maddie's friends ask her if she
could be a polygamist when she grows up, would you be a
polygamist? And and what they fail to ask
is, oh, if you were back home, would you already be married
with children and your polygamist cult?
Instead they're like, oh, do you see yourself being a
polygamist when you're an adult?
And she says no, she doesn't want to share her man and I
don't blame her. I don't want to share my man.
I don't have a man. I don't even want a man and if I
had one I wouldn't share him. When being compared to Leon,
Maddie says that Leon is boring and so are their friends.
She says Leon hangs out with a bunch of Mormons and I don't,
which I love because Leon does look boring.
Leon seems very boring. Yeah, she thinks that Leon will
have that lifestyle, like, for sure, right?
Leon will be a polygamist without a doubt.
They go back to the couch and Maddie is telling Kody and
Janelle that she is not going to choose that lifestyle and that
she is not choosing their religion.
Like she's equating this lifestyle to the entire religion
in general. And they're trying to tell her
like, you can still be a part of our faith and not practice
polygamy. But Maddie's equating polygamy
and the the religion as the same thing.
So it's a little confusing. And I do know that this is part
of their religion. They believe that being
polygamists gets them, you know, whatever they're going to get
more from God than the rest of us fools.
But it's interesting that Maddie's like including their
religion as a whole and saying she's not going to be a part of
that. Well, I suspect it's because
they're part of a cult. And so she's probably just like,
fuck this shit. Like, I don't want to be a part
of it. Yeah, even if you're a part of a
big normalized cult. I mean, when I was a teenager, I
was like, I'm not doing this shit.
So. You think she realized that at
this point though, because she was just so sad about leaving
Utah. It's only been a year and a
half. Do you think that after only a
year and a half you would be fully pulled out of it by that
point? Well, I don't know how old she
is, if she's like 16 or something.
Then at 16, I thought my parents, church and whatever was
bogus. OK.
So I don't know, we don't get an opportunity to hear Maddie's
real feelings because once again, she is like you were
saying, she was being kind of like coerced into having
reaction. And so they were trying to get
something. I don't really know what
Maddie's actual thoughts are here.
Obviously Maddie's just not in love with the idea of being part
of the AUB, which is a cult, so.
Well, and they keep saying this entire time, all of the parents
keep saying that the children have a right to choose if they
want to be a part of the show or not.
And that's why some children are on the show more than others
is because they're choosing to or not to participate.
But this whole scene and even the couch interview felt very
forced for her. Do they say that the kids don't
have to participate? Yeah, in the show.
Christine talks about it in her book, especially how each child
was able to make the decision on their own.
And that's why I like some of them are featured more than
others and some of them are sometimes and some of them are
not when they come in and out based on their feelings towards
being on the show. But this felt so forced almost
Like sure, maybe the little kids had that decision, but did the
older kids? I don't know if the older kids
had the same choice to participate or not.
I feel like that sounds like a later thing.
I don't know. I would assume that they didn't
feel like they had a choice. And even Kody at the end of
this, like, Couch interview says that he believes that religion
will keep the kids from the dark side.
And, like, that's how they end the, like, couch interview.
And it's just kind of like, all right, the dark side.
Sure. And.
Now we are going to be introduced to a new Sister Wives
character, however briefly. Robyn's cousin or sister?
No, her younger. Sister, her baby.
Sister Tara Lease. Tara Lease, her baby sister, is
going to be watching Saul. If they get the houses, Tara
lease is going to move in with Robyn.
Oh isn't that speed? Yep.
OK. And that's the end of that
scene. We're going to move on.
That's literally it. Well, I'm so glad we got
introduced to Tara Lease and I just love the name Tara Lease.
There's just something that sounds so not inbred about it.
Tara lease. Tara lease.
That's literally it. Tara Lease is Tara.
Elise is watching the children, or at least one child, so that
Robyn and Kody can go see a debt specialist.
Now, honey, how far away are we from the deadline for their
financing when they're going to see the debt specialist?
One week. One week.
Seven days.
And the debt specialist, his name is Harry Jacobs.
And the reason I know it's Harry Jacobs is because Kody says
Harry Jacobs, you're our only hope.
His second Star Wars reference within like 2 minutes in the
show. What was the other one?
The dark side, that religion will keep them from the dark
side. And I got to say, I don't claim
him. I was going to say you were
touched in special. Places no, as a as an avid Star
Wars fan, we do not claim him. I denounce him from the Star
Wars fandom. Oh I feel like Kody is your own
personal Obi Wan Kenobi blood is boring.
Try to forget that you ever said that because my cat is named
Obi Wan cat Nobi and he is far wiser than one Kody Brown
could ever be. Don't worry, I'll distract you
with some Robyn stories. So Robyn was a single working
mother. She was a single mom.
I didn't know that. She was a she was a single
mother for years after she left her ex-husband.
He was so bad to her she had to leave.
And when she left she lived with her mother for nine months and
she could never take care of her debt in those nine months.
She couldn't she couldn't do anything.
She couldn't get out of bed, she couldn't get in her car, she
couldn't walk down the street. Robyn is full of couldn't and
she could not, and she would not, and so she shan't.
Harry says that a few of these debts that are in collection
might be able to be deleted from her credit score.
And Robyn goes, it's a big deal that they may delete some debt
affecting my score, but. Oh, Harry Jacobs.
Here is the thing, Robyn, you're acting like they're just going
to delete your debt altogether.
That is not what Harry Jacobs said.
He said from your credit score, not just eliminating your debt.
And she's acting like a dumb
ass, like she thinks, Oh my God, they're just going to forget
that I owe them money. Like no, they're going to delete
it from your credit score. If you probably pay a reduced
whatever like, they'll negotiate something, you pay it, they'll
remove it. Yeah.
Hopefully she got that figured out by the time it happened.
Who knows? Because it's Robyn.
Here's where we find out something truly interesting.
Since all of this debt collection has started, she has
had three different last names and been off the radar,
according to Harry. And she just has to let us know
that it wasn't on purpose. It was to sever ties with my ex.
I wasn't trying to hide from the debt or outrun it, no.
Three different last names on her credit score?
Yep, she's divorced. Interestingly enough, we hear
her refer to her last name as Sullivan.
When she went to the lawyer when when she was at the front
desk, they said, oh, and your name?
And she said Sullivan, that's her ex or that I don't know what
name that is because. That must be her maiden.
Her maiden. So I'm guessing it was her ex
maiden, then Brown. But is her last name Brown?
She's not legally married to him.
But she could legally change her last name if she wanted to.
Yeah, so even though this sounds like, what kind of moron doesn't
know they have three names on their credit score?
No, she did this on purpose. It's also like she could have
three different last names and would it be the weirdest thing
in the world? No, but it also is fishy.
Agreed. It's like.
Her story is this whole fucking episode.
And Robyn talks about how she feels ashamed for having debt
and collections. She feels so ashamed, but not
ashamed enough to do anything about it.
Just. Shamed.
Oh, every dime is to take care of the kids.
I was a single working mother and every dime was to take care
of the kids. And I had to think about putting
food on the table. And those debt collectors, they
would call me and I would say to them, I have kids.
I'm a single working mother. I can't.
Afford. Anything money for you, not even
a dime. I can't.
Afford anything but to put food on the table and have heat and
electricity. Oh, but she didn't even have
heat, Christopher. She had to light fires.
She had to light fires, keep her kids warm, and they even show us
a picture of one of them in front of a tiny little space
heater. Dayton sitting in front of a
space heater. They show a picture of it to try
to like, garner sympathy for us.
But I wrote right here, she is straight up lying, not even
crying. Yes, yes, lying and not even
crying. She is a crier.
We know she's a crier this entire time where she's telling
this sob story about being a single working mother and she
couldn't even pay a dime toward towards the creditors that were
calling her constantly. And I didn't change my last name
to avoid the creditors. I was answering the phone and I
was telling him I was a single working mom.
Bitch, we all know you'd be balling up a storm if that were
true. We all know you'd be crying so
hard right now if that was true.
Interesting when the tears form and when they don't, Yeah.
It's very, very convenient for her, isn't it?
Yes. Yeah, My favorite detail,
though, about her trailer life was when she talks about making
the fires to keep her family warm.
I believe she says that she made fires in the oven, which I don't
know. I can't put my hand on a Bible,
certainly not Kody's Bible and swear to that.
But I think she would have said made fires in the oven.
Like girl, she's a mess. She's.
Such a mess and. Even if she didn't say that, I'm
going to pretend she did. It was like, she said that she
had to make fires in something. And it's a lot of moms that
can't keep the heat on throughout the winter will heat
their house with the stove. Yeah, which is very dangerous.
It's actually like, super dangerous.
And so I have empathy for any mother that has to do that to
keep their children warm. I cannot even imagine being in
that type of a position, which is why I don't believe her
because she cries over everything and she is not doing
it right now. And then they try to show us
that SOB picture of Dayton in front of a space heater.
And it's like you just told us you lit fires and you're showing
a picture of him in front of a space heater.
Totally different things. Robyn.
A fucking liar. God, yeah.
Back in the day, I mean, I'm not gonna say that there's photos of
me sitting in front of a space heater, but there's probably
photos of me and my parents entryway next to like a a mobile
radiator heater, like one of those little oil ones.
Like, it just looked like an aged photo, like an old photo of
the time, like kids sitting in front of a space heater in the
winter in their trailer. Like, even if you have heat.
Yeah, like. He's smiling.
It's like a happy photo of him. It's not like he's sitting there
like a normal photo in a soup line.
Like, come on, I don't know, my kids have space heaters in their
rooms right now because we have, you know, that side of our
house is colder than the other side.
So they get space heaters. And you know what I mean?
It's like it's they're trying to make her story seem so sob
right now but she's not even sobbing, no.
She's not even sobbing. Not sobbing, Robyn.
Fishy, fishier than a dolphin. And she is probably going to try
to claim that the reason that her stories are so fishy is
because she was kidnapped by dolphins, which is not true.
Which is not true. Which is just simply not true.
We know that you didn't even swim with them.
That was Meri. I wonder that was Meri.
I wonder if she has dolphin accoutrement within her home,
like if she has dolphin decor to keep our eyes peeled.
I bet you that the Dolphins would denounce her just like I'm
denouncing Kody from the Star Wars fandom.
The Dolphins would be like, we don't want her.
Yeah, what would they say? We don't want you stopping,
Robyn, No. Now that they put their snoot
and Meri special place, they don't want Robyn.
Luckily we get to move on to Meri's house now.
I'm not so sure that this is luckily, but we're moving on
luckily. Luckily, luckily, luckily,
luckily, luckily, luckily, luckily.
Kody tells us that he is so proud of Leon because Leon is
being entered into the National Honor Society, which is great.
Apparently it's for smart people.
I won't know anything about that, but they're going to go to
a ceremony for Leon being inducted as a member to the
National Honor Society. Now, you know.
Cool. I guess it's about academic
achievement or as a testing, who knows.
You just have to make over certain grades, like in the
semester to be on the honor roll.
I was on it. What does that tell you is?
The honor roll the same thing as National Honor Society though
darling, I think these might be different.
Things You're trying to diminish my accomplishments.
Yes, I think that you're not part of the National Honor
Society. I think you just got a little
from your school, but I think these might be different things.
I don't. Know well either way, Kody
believes that Leon could be a doctor now because Leon made the
National Honor Society, so that means that Leon could be a
doctor. Thank God.
And Leon is looking for post secondary schools with good
medical programs of course. Well, lovely.
Apparently, Utah's one of them.
Yeah, of course. So luckily for Leon.
I can go back to being a plague in Utah.
Of course, Leon always wanted to be a doctor, yadda yadda yadda.
Leon wants to return to Utah
because that's where their people are.
They're people. I can't wait for Leon to find
out who their people really are because it's probably not a
bunch of polygamists in Utah. No, and Leon is adamant.
And Leon says flat out, I am going to have sister wives.
Yeah, Leon has a lot of adamacy these days.
A lot of gall. A lot of things going on with
Leon. Leon hopes that Meri takes Robyn
up on her surrogacy offer. So now we get to talk about the
surrogacy. Thank God we've been waiting to
hear about it again. Well, and we also had to get
Leon's opinion on it finally, you know, because why not?
We got to bring it up again for the second time in this
episode. Now, do you want to test your
acting chops here, honey, and give us Leon talking about how
Leon prayed every night. OK.
Are you ready for this? Ready.
You can choose to be an empty nester.
I hope she picks Robyn up on her offer.
I've prayed every single night for another baby.
Now you have this choice, and if you choose not to, you're taking
this away from all of us. Things would be better maybe.
Oh, that was great, honey. I think Leon would give you a
round of applause. Leon was angry.
Yeah, Leon was pissed. So angry, yeah.
Saying this. The anger on their face, I had
to point it out to Chris. During this, I paused it to
write notes and I was like, look at their face right now while
saying this. It's like straight up anger.
Yeah, not even sadness. It's like resentment and anger.
That guilt inducing for sure.
Like the goal was to make Meri feel like shit for sure.
Oh yeah, definitely. And Meri says I haven't made a
decision yet, I need a little more time to figure it out.
And then Leon, just like, unplugs their mic pack and walks
out because Leon is so distraught over not having a
sibling. And it's such bullshit because
Meri's saying that she hasn't made, I haven't made a decision
yet is just pandering. It's pandering.
I feel like Meri is trying so hard in this moment to pull the
wool over Leon's eyes. And it's also not fair to Leon.
And this is part of the reason that maybe Leon still believes
this is a possibility and is so angry about it because the
parents lie all of the time to the older kids.
And this is probably one of those things that has been lied
about time and time again. I think that Leon is angry with
God about not having a sibling and doesn't understand it.
And I thought when Leon was looking at Meri with such
disdain, you little selfish bitch.
Do you even realize how horrible this is for your mother?
Do you realize what it's like to be pregnant?
Do you realize what it's like to lose a baby?
Do you realize what it is like for a woman in this religion to
not be able to have as many children as they're supposedly
supposed to have to make it to this point in heaven and feel
like you're going to go to hell because you can't have
children? Fuck you.
And if I was their mother in that moment in time and they
were looking at me and talking to me like that, I probably
wouldn't have been trying to pander to them.
I probably would have been like, sit the fuck down and talk to me
with a little more respect. That's what I would have said.
I'm I like, I'm sorry. I'm not sorry.
That was ridiculous. And Meri just took it and then
started blubbering herself. Yeah, after Leon leaves Meri's,
like, this is more stress than I need.
It's like, yeah, Oh my God. That would be heartbreaking for
a mother to like, realize that your child potentially hates you
so much for not being able to have children when it's not
something you wanted for yourself.
Kody says that he agrees with Leon, blah blah, blah, blah
blah, and there's an element of that with Leon's behavior.
I think like that Leon sees the way that people talk to Meri,
particularly Kody, and feels the right to do so as well.
Leon's also like, OK, an only child in Meri's home in this
larger family. And there's an element to me of
God. It's so tough because with their
cult religion, there's like this piousness, there's this,
you know, we're better than everybody else thing.
And I feel like that gets beat into their heads, especially
with someone like Leon, like I'm going to live this life.
I'm going to follow this thing. I'm going to follow the calling.
And I'm so this and I'm so that.
And then my mom has this opportunity to have someone else
have a child for her. And she's not taking it.
Like it's like selfish of her not to even have more children.
And it's like, my God, like you're such a fucking know it
all and you're spoiled as shit.
Frankly, spoiled as shit. The know it all behavior, the
entitlement. Yeah, yeah.
The nose in the air about it. Kody's a bitch in this scene and
Leon's a bitch in this scene. Got 2 little bitches ganging up
on our little mare bear about her womb yet again.
Our bear, Mare bear. Mirror Bear I just.
I so badly wish I could have like swooped into Meri's body
like the Holy Ghost and been like, Leon shut the fuck up, do
not talk to me this way or you're going to go to hell.
Like, God, I was so angry for Meri listening to that, and then
for Kody to jump on the bandwagon and join in after Leon
left the room. I just, I don't know, I felt so
bad for Meri. It was bad.
Yeah, and not even our first forced child interview awkward
situation. Same thing with Maddie.
Like, I was like, we're going to set you on this couch and we're
going to make you talk about this shit and it's going to be
unpleasant and we're going to film it and it's going to be on
national television. And then in the future, 2
deadbeat losers are going to talk about it on a podcast.
But Leon was hot to trot. Leon was hot to tear her mother
apart. Yeah.
About absolutely eager to do so. Can we move on from this
scarring experience? I don't know, I suppose my
cheeks are all hot. I do love it.
But not in a good way. Being the Holy Spirit and
entering Meri's body. I mean, I wish I could have at
that point. Now which hole would you have
entered through? I'm going to say her left
nostril. Oh, the nostril.
Yeah, that maybe you're going to go for an ear, but nostril?
Nostrils are a little large, I feel like I would have entered
through one of them. Oh, just like Miss Frizzle.
Your nostril. I'm driving my school bus in
there, Holy Spirit. And I'm going to tell you while
we're in here, what's wrong with your ovaries because I'm
going to check it out in my magic school bus and I'm going
to teach the children what really happens with sexuality.
Anyway, moving on. You need sperm in here, that's
nothing to worry about, don't you?
Tavern is empty. Hello, hello, hello, hello.
See, this hymen is intact. It's been re intact.
It's been rebirthed. Rebirth regrown.
It's been regenerated. Yes, Hymen is re intact so
nothing's happening here kids. Got to go, God.
We're sick. Well, you know, but Meri's like,
don't worry about that. Got plenty of sexual activity
happening with my husband. He's trying to impregnate me.
Pragante esto pragante. God, after this unfortunate
incident with Leon on the couch, we're going to cut to all the
adults meeting with Mona at her office.
Oh so lovely. Mona Mona's office.
We had some interesting tidbits from Christine in this episode.
There's couch moments, there's
on spot interview moments, there's things happening.
And Christine says in one of these cutaways that she feels
like a single mom ever since they moved to Vegas.
She's just on her own with everything and this is not what
she signed up for. She did not sign up to be a
single mother with a baby on her hip stand in the front yard
smoking a cigarette. No, she definitely did not.
Truly, with that little head and that little hair and that
weird body. The cutest?
I mean, very cute, but it does.
I'm just kidding. The visual of Christine holding
her and smoking in the yard like oh God, no, no, no, no, no.
Gosh, what's that?
I stand very fronted in my own front yard with baby on my hip.
Oh God. Christine's a red.
Woman, we Can't Sing too much or they're going to come for us.
Shit. Now Janelle says that she needs
to stay practical. What a shock.
Practical. Just worried that our dreams
might be crushed. Now, Mona says, we never
discussed what would happen if only three of you qualify for
these loans. Now, remember I told you not to
make any late payments while we were gathering these things
together. And Christine's like, oh, I
think I've missed a payment. Think I've missed a water
payment. It's like, Oh my God, these
people, they are literally trying to qualify for home
loans. And Christine's like, oh, I've
never had to be responsible for paying my own bills, and I
think I missed a water payment.
He forgot about my water bill. Oh God, but I'm going to feel so
bad if this is me. Oh really?
Kody is really mad about this? Kody is mad that she even
brought it up. Really, Christine?
Because that'd be the reason it's about Janelle and Robyn and
I. Is it motherfucker?
Well, it is funny because we know that they're in this 30 day
window of time, right? So is it?
So can we blame Christine? I'm going to go with yes.
Should we? Probably not, but you know, like
logic would tell you if you missed your water bill, it's not
going to like be determined late and sent to a collector and
all this stuff in like 30 days.
But in her mind, she's scared. She's never paid the bills
before. We just heard about that earlier
in the episode. And how the world works.
It's her first. Time paying the bills on her
own. Janelle's not doing it anymore
for her good. Lord.
So she did this horrible thing, Yeah.
And then Kody, everyone. 'S going to be fucked because of
Christine. Well, Kody gets mad at her for
even bringing it up like she's selfish for thinking it would be
her that would cause the problem.
And I thought it was that he was pointing out like, you're an
idiot, like you missed a water bill.
It's not going to derail you from buying a home.
But no, I think he was looking at her like you're selfish for
thinking it could be you that would be the problem here.
Either way, Christine is the problem.
Then Mona is like, I'm going to pull out a piece of paper, I'm
going to pull out the paperwork.
She's got her papers in front of her and she's going to drag this
out for production, which I appreciate.
Got to give Mona her flowers. I appreciate.
It like who's getting the roses here bachelor style?
Who's getting approval? Who's?
Gonna get pre approval, not even approval pre approval.
Like drawing it out like Survivor style.
Who's getting voted off the island?
Like we've got, well, we probably do have an entire
season of this. Look where we ended at Season 3
and then at 4:00. So the end of at the end of
Season 5, we're sitting at bonus table doing paperwork.
Talking about surrogacy, No, not at bonus table, but at every
other fucking table. They're moving at a snail's pace
here. The first document.
Oh. Chris, I would like to point
out, they're not moving at a snail's pace.
They're moving at a slug's pace because they don't have a shell,
they don't have homes. So moving at a slug's pace is
more like it. Just saying.
Thank you for clarifying. For the record, the first
documents handed are handed to Janelle and Janelle.
It's approved. And Janelle is surprised.
She is like wow, wow, wow. Well, first it's Meri and Kody
and everyone was like wow. We knew that.
That's right, Meri and Kody were first.
Well, we forget about it because it was just like a gift here.
You go. And that's why I don't
understand why Kody was like throwing it in Christine's face,
like, oh, you're not the one to wear because she was.
Annoyed that she didn't get the comp, she didn't comprehend that
one water payment miss does not derail your credit in 30 I.
Don't believe that.
I think he thought she was being selfish by bringing herself
up. Listen, the proof is in the
pudding. Either way, Meri and Kody get
approved, Janelle gets approved, and Janelle is just like
Hallelujah. Wow, wow.
Who gets the next draw? Christine is next on the list of
document recipients and the paper is slid to her and Mona
says you are approved. And Christine tells us about her
feelings. I missed the beginning.
I feel like she is like a little.
She was. Drugged up right now, she's all.
Over the place.
She she probably is drugged up.
She's maybe this was that one week she was addicted to pills.
Maybe, yeah, maybe.
Maybe she had one beer before this.
Yeah, she might have had her one beer.
Her one cider Christine feels like she's been failing a lot
right now. Yes, she's overweight, she can't
lose weight. She's failed at that.
She's been overweight her whole.
Life. She's been overweight her whole
life and so being approved for this was huge.
It was huge, she says. Oh God.
Cut to Kody's healing cold sore. That's like.
That's the next thing I noticed. Also, OK, Kody's cold sore, but
then we've got Christina's Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
over there on the couch. Oh yeah, why?
Is her nose so fucking? Red, she's just so worked up, I
think that her nose is so that happens to me too.
Sometimes and it's about being fat her whole life and then
missing a water bell. Like all of this adds up to like
bright Red Nose. I mean, I am pale.
I'm a pale pasty girl this time of year, living in the northern
hemisphere. OK.
No, sunshine, I feel her on the bright red burning face in
moments where you wish it didn't happen, Maybe not quite so much.
Knock on wood.
I fucking hope not that bright red Rudolph knows.
But oh God, the thing that really, truly just got me going
in this moment was the small, tiny violins that we're playing.
Well, this is it. I was going to say you the
dramatic music because now we're going to move on to wife #4.
And there's like angels with their tiny little hands playing
tiny little violins. The saddest?
Meaning their tiny little voices.
And then Robyn says I didn't want my past marriage to affect
this family. I'm just.
Waiting for the blow. Wait.
Waiting for the blow and Mona says and Robyn, and then they
get the shriek sound effect that they always do and we cut to
commercial break. So many eye rolls from Robyn
during all of this, by the way.
Eye rolls from. Robyn yeah.
So many like, like, exasperated eye rolls.
So did so girl, so probably. So she's doing these like,
exasperated like. Irritated.
Like what would you do? Like these just automatic.
Like humph, like I roll moments like drama, playing it up,
waiting for the blow. Didn't all my past marriage do
affect this family again? So after the commercial break,
we come back and Robyn's still talking and she's like, I was
living. All of the old hurts came to the
surface. They did.
If I don't get approved, we're still getting these houses.
I don't care what happens. I'll do whatever it takes.
Chris is grabbing his tits right now.
And that's when I was imagining it going She'll do whatever it
takes. She'll show off that shoulder.
She'll let her ankle and her knee dance in front of a man for
some money. She'll walk the streets.
She will sell smack to the children on the playground.
But she won't get a job. But she will sell her body.
She will sell her drugs. She will offer her children to
sell their bodies and drugs. But she will not get a job to
make this happen. But she'll do whatever it takes.
I'll do whatever it takes, but
not work. Except for work.
Yeah, and Mona says. And Robyn ellipsis, you are
approved. Kody goes for real.
This. For real.
Kody's in shock, Robyn says.
I'm framing this piece of paper.
I want to see that framed piece of paper right now in your
current home you dumb bitch. You dumb bitch.
She's like, oh I know it's in tote #732 in Kody's second
garage. Like, Oh my God, she's a
hoarder. She's a hoarder.
So this is, she has so many pieces of paper framed all from
like debt relief and people doing things for her.
This is such a special moment for me.
It's my first piece of chewing gum.
It's when I avoided having to be a prostitute to pay for my.
Home. Oh my gosh.
Oh. My God.
Oh, this woman. She's for sure that mom that has
her children's baby teeth in a jar somewhere.
For real. For real.
Yes, for real, Kody.
My God. And then they show salt chewing
on a sharpie. I missed fall chewing on a
sharpie. I'm like.
Why do they show these? Things they're like these
parents aren't neglectful. Here's.
A. Here's an.
Inventor baby chewing. They did a close up of him
chewing on the end of a sharpie like a closed sharpie.
Oh. God.
But it's like, what, you doing them dirty?
Like every parent knows that their kids aren't.
Yeah, chewing on dumb shit every now and then.
But why are you zoning in on that right now during this
scene? Like, my goodness.
They just said to show Robyn is mom of the year.
Playing with that dangling necklace, chewing on A sharp
Chewing on a sharp B. Thank you, I can see I'm having
a positive effect on you. We've got a lot of marbles in
our mouth right this episode. Mona tells everyone that they
can start construction in five weeks if they get all of their
contracts in a row and make all of their construction
selections. She says something along the
lines of she well, she summoned the Holy Spirit.
She she mentioned you, Kimber. She.
Sure did. And she said I'm going to have
Kimber show up at your home. She says I hope that I put the
fear of God in them. Yes, hopefully they still need
the pre approval come closing. Yes.
That's what they all have forgotten.
Here, right, so they got it's like Abby Lee Miller always
says, it's one thing to get to the top, it's another thing to
stay at the top so. Like, don't get kicked in the
teeth, ladies. So.
It's one thing to get your credit score up to 600 and get a
pre approval letter. It's another to maintain your
600 credit score and get an approval when the loan is
closing. So Christine, stop missing your
water bills. Yeah, and Robyn get to walk in
those streets. Get to St.
Walk in you dumb whore. You dumb hussy, you hooker.
Oh, sorry, hookers out there. I don't mean to disparage.
I don't want to compare you to Robyn Brown.
I believe they call themselves sex workers now, so Robyn's on a
different level. We can call her a hooker.
We. Can call Robyn a hooker?
Yes. Kody asks.
Can we be in by Christmas? And Mona says, believe me, if he
can do it, he will. Yeah, the builder would like
that. Yeah, well, he wants his money.
Yeah, honey.
Yeah, he'll try to build it. If it means that the loan
clears, he'll do his best. I don't think he'll be taking
any blowies from old cold sore over there, but you know, maybe.
Blowies from old cold sore to pay for it, Yes.
Oh, that's a good one. Blowies from old cold sore.
You really topped yourself. Although it really was Kody in
this episode that had the cold sore healing.
But it was a gift from Robyn. Yeah.
And this coming from the Holy Spirit.
I mean, it's all she could afford to give him, so he might
as well take. It right she's like honey, you
know I can't work, but I can give you a cold sore.
Give me some herp. On your lerp.
Oh, God, now we're going to cut to the whole family.
We're going to have better Times Now, Kimber.
Better times. Sorry, the family is going to go
visit the cul-de-sac because once again, we've got another
benchmark met. This is really important to the
kids. Oh yeah, that they got pre
approval. So now they're going to drag
them all to the development to go look at a model home, which
is actually cute as a child. I would love to go see a model
home. Well.
What are you talking about? To have the privilege of seeing
OK. Meri, let's just say.
I just mean, if my parents were doing this and we were put in
the minivan and driven to a place and told leave the snow
kites in the car and get outside and go into this thing, this
is what we're going to build you.
I'd be like, that's cool. I would like it.
Kody says that he thought he that they should have sedated
all the children before they got there so that they didn't break
anything, and I can relate. Yeah, yeah.
There are times that I wish I could sedate my children.
But and there's like 437 of them, so it's like, oh thing.
God, I can't even imagine. No.
It's like a school trip, but it's just them going to look at
their model home. They go to the old kids on the
couch. The old kids.
The oldest kids, yeah. Yep, they show them on the couch
and all of their back and forth of if they think that this
is real or not and if they believe that this is going to
happen or not. And they're hamming in awe and
like the whole family does all the time.
Yeah, and how things often don't work out for them, but they
think this one will. The vibe overall is, you know
what, I can see this shit storm coming together into a ticky
tacky build. A great home for us in a
development in Las Vegas. You know, right?
Dream big, dream high, dream wide.
Those dung beetles are rolling the dung together for once and
this shit storm or. Whatever we saw that, we heard
it in the filming. Cicadas.
Cicadas, Thank you.
There was they were showing an outside shot and it was like,
like, Oh my God. Yeah.
Minnesota in July. Oh my gosh.
Now all the family arrives, they all get out of all their
vehicles, they're all holding the ropes so no one gets lost on
the way into the model home. And they're all looking around
and the kids have enthusiasm. They're excited.
They're, you know, looking in rooms.
They show Little Truly little gangly tall Truly with her wispy
little blonde hairs. She's so cute.
Little truly scrumptious, looking like she's somehow
elderly and a small child at the same time.
Right, like. She should be in a nursing home.
They put her in such like
overtly feminine girly little clothes, probably because of the
lack of hair, that it's like, OK, Yep, this is a little girl.
She literally looks like she's wearing a little old lady outfit
like. Old.
Women wear when they're like, got up and got my coffee.
I'm going to do my crossword this morning.
But I immediately just was like, Oh my gosh, I want to like
hold her and also like. She's very hot, yeah.
Get out of here with that. Every time that I see truly I'm
just like, Oh my God, stop with the cuteness because I can't
with that little bald fluffy head.
Yeah. Truly scrumptious.
Anyway. When the family goes outside,
Kody tells all the moms to go where their homes will be on
their properties. Go to your spots.
Go to your spots.
And then the kids follow them. At some point one of them says,
I have an extra child over here.
Did you see who that was? Maybe one of Robyn's girls or.
Yeah, I love how one of one of the four wives had an extra
child with her and was making a joke about it.
It doesn't even. Matter.
I was more distracted by the fact that Kody, in a voiceover
was saying they've really bought into it here.
Yeah. And then he says.
I feel like yelling Hallelujah. Yes, what a relief.
What a blessing. I feel like yelling Hallelujah
and then after the episode wrapped I was singing
Hallelujah. I mean.
On repeat. They ended it at the cul-de-sac
yet again with all the children.
With all the children. End of Season 3.
End of Season 4. Beginning of Season 5.
Yes, yes. All the children in the.
Will they be in their homes by Christmas?
Will they, won't they? Will they?
Won't they? Well, if Kimber is the Holy
Spirit has anything to do with it, they will not.
Nope, all that I have come to the conclusion of at the end of
this episode is that you and I are the ones that are probably
going to hell all the judging. No, no.
I'm fine. It's good company, darlin.
It's good company. You'd rather be in hell with you
than in heaven with Kody Brown, Probably.
Leon will be there being like you're wrong and terrible.
Oh God, oh God. Be out of here.
The judgement, the cruelty. We've come to the point of our
episode where we have to, by law, say who is our mustard seed
and who is our shit stain? I because you are a woman and
because I am a traditionalist and I have a penis.
You're going to go first. But I'm a big Kody Brown fan, so
I'm going to go first with my Mustard Seed and my Mustard Seed
this week. I wasn't prepared to go first.
I was actually going to. Give it to you.
I know you were, that's why I did that to.
Cruel world. It's a cruel world.
Oh gosh, who's my mustard? Seed men, you guys just get the
shit out of the stick all the time.
I know, I know, it's true. It's true.
I think I'm going to give my mustard seed this episode to 1
Meri Brown. Meri Brown has been through the
wringer. She has been put through the
wringer again and she went through that wringer 1/3 time
and then the Holy Spirit showed up and shoved itself in her
nostril and put her through the wringer 1/4 time.
Checked out her ovaries. Said there's nothing happening
in here. This vagina is dry and Meri was
not treated well by her child. Meri was not treated well by her
husband. This is a theme and I feel bad
for one Meri Brown, so I'm giving her my mustard seed.
Not because she did anything positive.
Did she do anything positive this episode?
She didn't talk much. I was going to say all she had
to do was kind of defend herself and whatever.
So yeah, I'm going to give my mustard seed to Meri because she
was maybe the least idiotic. Let's go with that.
Yeah. Who's your mustard seed,
darling? This is a tough one for me
because everybody did some shit to piss me off, which they
always do, but I feel like this one was particularly like, Oh
my God, my mustard seed is going to Maddie for not giving into
the bullshit and being kind of a hard ass when it came to the
interview, 'cause it was very apparent that they were trying
to get emotion and milk an interview out of Maddie.
And they did do a cute scene with Maddie and her friends and
she kept it clean. She kept it cute.
And I probably would have at that age, been wearing matching
T-shirts with my girls, too, and strutting stuff down the
street, you know, being all cute and then playing hard ass in
the confessional situation. So I'm going to give her my
mustard seed because I think that they tried to play her
dirty and she didn't let them. Yeah.
I agree with that. Well once again I am the man.
I have a penis so I should go first.
OK, fair enough. And I'm going to give my shit
stain to 1 Miss Robyn Brown, Robyn Sullivan, Robyn Jessup,
Robyn. Whatever else her last name
could be on her credit report. Oh Robyn, where do I even start?
The lies, the fraud, the laziness, the mental incapacity,
everything about it. Everything about her.
This episode was so gross to me, particularly the lying.
Obviously, lying about the past is a broad.
Stroke Egregious. Just egregious.
It's it is terrible, but then what gets me even more is then
the current day. Oh, I don't want this to affect
my family, the things that happened to me in the past.
It's like your past, your life, the life hasn't just happened
to you, Robyn. And there's something about
people that approach life where everything is just life
happening to them, where they don't, they don't take any
ownership for anything. And life does throw curveballs
to us. There are things that are out of
our control, but that's not everything.
And she makes it sound like it's everything and it's not.
And her past choices she's having ramifications for and she
wants to make it sound like she doesn't want it to affect the
family. I feel like as as a way to
elicit them to do more for her and to solve her problems for
her. Yeah, and it's ridiculous.
Like leave it down to two weeks, one week, whatever.
Like you had the capability to do way more before all of this.
You could have been going to your sister wives and saying,
hey, can you guys help me with like Saul or whoever, and I need
to go and take care of some things so that we can get this
done. No, she obviously didn't do
that. She waited until somebody came
to her and said, no, you need to handle this situation.
I just think that she was trying to sell a bill of lies this
entire episode. The lack of tears shows the
level of manipulation because usually the tears would be
flowing, flowing, flowing. It's so phony and there's
something gross going on. And I think that she manipulated
this family into bringing her in.
And then I also think like I'm piggybacking on your shit stand
what I would have said because she brings her baby sister in
and I feel like it's a ploy to get more money for her family.
I feel like there's something weird about her all of a sudden
deciding to move her baby sister in with them if they get the
homes and trying to introduce her as a new character and then
it doesn't go anywhere. I think it was like a ploy
because this baby sister has to be like over 18 so they
probably know that they would have had to pay her if she
became a regular on the show. I feel like there was something
weird going on there as well. There's something with it
because although I'm not sure if we see Tara lease again in the
future, we do see other Robyn family members move into her
home and care for her children.
Now, they're not stars of the show, but there is an element of
Robyn ringing in her family for the payroll for to raise her
children. Because she's doing what?
What is Robyn doing? She can't raise her own kids.
I don't get it. I.
Don't want to say raise, that sounds dramatic.
I'm making it sound dramatic. Not everyone who has a nanny
isn't raising their children. I don't want to broad brush
stroke that. But like this bitch doesn't have
a job. This bitch is designing jewelry
on graph paper and it's doodles that someone else is actually
making. She's not even.
She's a shit stain. Yeah, she's a shit stain.
Now, according to the rules of science and the laws of this
government, you are not allowed to have the same shit stain as
me. I just had to piggyback and say
my reasons for why I would have shown my shit stain.
Well, Tara, Lease, Tara Lise, I don't think we're going to see
her again, unfortunately. Well, Tara Lise is getting my
real shit. I'm just kidding.
That bench, that bench for like half a second.
She looked at me wrong through the TV and I didn't like it.
Yes, yes. I'm going to go with Leon.
I was going to say Leon if. Not Leon on their high.
Horse riding extra high because of the Honor Society.
Whatever, Nerd nerd loser to have a swirling in a toilet
nerd. Yes.
Throw that nerd in the trash can, yeah?
No St. smarts, all you got is book smarts.
It's coming from someone who also is nerd.
Not Honor Society, but honor roll Chris.
Definitely not the same thing. Well.
I think Honor Roll's the Walmart version of the honor side.
We'll go with that. I'm fine taking.
Leon is looking at you like this nose judgement.
Well, I'm going to kick Leon in the teeth right now because I
got to tell you, Leon, how dare you talk to your mother that
way. How very dare you, you
ungrateful brat. I just couldn't believe the
hatred that was coming from Leon's face.
Yeah. Those facial expressions were
that of pure anger. I am sure that I spoke to my
mother in horrible ways at that age as well, and in hindsight, I
very much regret it. And I have, as an adult, told my
mother so. I have.
You don't.
Get brownie points for apologizing about being no.
But I have, I've been like mom, like, you know, now that I know
what you were going through, please forgive me.
Sob story OK yeah, so Leon was a bitch.
It pisses me off that they just keep on keeping on with this
narrative for Meri and everyone's just so insensitive
and it's like Leon as an only child should be super in tuned
to their mother. And even my little kids when
they know I'm upset or like have seen me upset will ask me if I'm
OK. So to have such anger and such a
sensitive subject thrown in your face by your own child, it
just, I don't know, something about it just really made me mad
and I didn't like it at all. And I hope, I hope that Leon has
apologized to Meri like I apologize to my mother for
telling her she was a dumb bitch, probably at some point.
The Holy Spirit is an example to follow.
Admit your wrongdoings, Leon. Tell your mother you're sorry.
Apologize to Meri. Or go to the dockside.
You know, and another element of the Leon story is whatever's
going on with their dead name at this time.
True. You know, Leon is clearly
struggling with other things and trying to figure themselves out
in a world that is surrounded by polygamy and religious dogma
and whatnotness. And I don't think it's, you
know, I went off for it up as an excuse, but I think it is some,
it's a part of the piece of the puzzle.
Right. Like they're doubling down South
hard on everything and it's like overcompensating.
It's like Uber conservative senators that are like, you
know, in the bathroom getting blowjobs from the.
Same day like finding glory holes.
Yeah, train stations. And they're like the loudest
protesters. It's just what it is.
And people that are dealing with a lot, you know, express
themselves in some not great ways.
I can see that and it sucks that the person that's probably
closest to them is taking the heat.
Yeah, yeah. And I guess sometimes my biggest
problem with this show when they're talking to people like
and giving such like hard like interviews where it's like
aggressive and maybe catches someone off guard.
What's weird about that to me is like it feels like they don't
talk about it off camera and that it's being suppressed.
And all of a sudden it comes out because of the questions that
the producers are asking. But also it makes me wonder what
they talk to each other like behind the scenes too.
So it's like it could go both ways, right?
Like this behavior is being brought out because of the
interviews. Or do you talk worse to each
other behind the scenes? Like, I don't know.
I guess based on Christine's book and some other tidbits, I
think in general they don't talk about.
Yeah. And so when it's brought up on
camera, then it they fester and it's around and it's whatever
and. It's heated.
Because, you know, flashback to season 1 when Christine left the
stage when they were doing their, you know, whatever it's
called, their tell all, their reunion, their whatever they
call it on this show. And they didn't film for like 3
or 4 days because Christine was so pissed.
And then they came back and like in through editing, made it look
like she just left for a little while and then came back.
So they obviously have some
things that they don't communicate well about.
But I think that the kids probably talk to their parents
worse off camera than they do on camera.
I think that that maybe is like a parent thing that they don't
talk enough because their households are more separate
than they would lead us to believe.
But I think the kids probably with their parents would maybe
talk more off camera cuz I can tell from the kids interview is
that they're holding back. Yeah, most of the time.
So I think that Leon probably talks to Meri like that
frequently off camera. And I think Kody does the whole
like well I agree with Leon thing regularly.
Yeah, Kody likes to pit people against each other.
Yes, if. Anyone's going to be adversarial
against Meri, Kody's going to take their side.
Yeah. So while I can have empathy for
Leon's position and knowing what they've been through in the
struggles that they're mentally going through at this time and
the gymnastics that they're going through, I also think that
it still sucks that you would take it out on someone who
obviously loves you so much. With the ushering in of Season
5, the Celestial season is what I'm going to call it.
We'll see if that happens. Let's see if I remember that
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