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What does the nanny do? 
 
OK, so we're done. 

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Goodbye. 
 
You shut it off. 

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Do not twist my words. 
 
Do not make me a victim. 

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Sweetie. 
 
Just look at the mountain. 

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That's what you saw. 
 
That day, just the knife in the 

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kidneys over all these years and

 the sacrifices that I made to 

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love you. 
 
We are entering the fifth season

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now. 
 
Here on earth. 

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We have Four Seasons, winter, 
 
spring, summer and fall. 

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The Brown family is entering the

 fifth season, the Celestial 

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season, where you can find their

 celestial Kingdom, which we 

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will never ever see. 
 
And it seems like it is the same

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season of their life yet again, 
 where they're looking for homes

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next to each other. 
 
Yes, a lot has happened since 

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our last episode, which is 
 
actually nothing has happened. 

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So we're all up to speed. 
 
If you've listened to Season 4 

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then you're all up to speed. 
 
Nothing has happened since 

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season 3 technically because 
 
they ended in the same exact 

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spot. 
 
Yes yes Season 5 episode 1 

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polygamous death threat. 
 
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sound effect. 
 
The episode opens with another 

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sumMeri of their move to Vegas. 
 

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So we need to be reminded again 
and again and again that they 
 

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moved to Vegas. 
The kids were not happy about 
 

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this but. 
Before they even summarize the 


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moving to Vegas yet again, the 
1st recap that they do is the 
 

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surrogacy offer. 
For some reason. 
 

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Let's bring that up again. 
End of season 3 surrogacy offer,

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 We're going to bring that up 
at the very beginning of season 

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5, 
 OK? 
Because we need to bring it back

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 to that always. 
That happened so long ago now in

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 the timeline. 
I just, I don't know, it blows 


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me away that that has to be the 
first thing that's brought up 
 

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again. 
Of course, welcome to Season 5. 

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First thing you see is a 

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reminder of the surrogacy that 

we've all been beat over the 

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head with. 
 
Yep. 

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After the review of the 
 
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sumMeri of their move to Vegas, 
 which gives Kody another 

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opportunity to talk about how 
 
the kids are unhappy and how no 

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one liked the move and that they

 are in four different homes. 

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He references how their family 

culture is crumbling, quote UN 

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quote crumbling with them being 
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And I thought that was 
 
interesting that he says their 

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family culture is crumbling. 
 
This show is weird because it's 

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there's like a this thing about 
 the nature of the show where 

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we're just going along for this 
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entire time that the show is 
 
airing, they're talking about 

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their family culture crumbling. 
 

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From the very first episode, 
Christine talks about how she is

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 not looking forward to having 
another wife joining the family.

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It's like the whole show, 

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they're telling us that things 

are not going well, but then 

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they're showing a bunch of 
 
things that are trying to get us

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to think that, look, things are 
 going well and they're figuring

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things out and we're just along 
 for the journey. 

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When in all reality, the 
 
underlying thing is that 

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everything is falling apart and 
 everything's terrible and 

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horrible. 
 
Yeah, they even have to show 

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meltdowns of the children during

 the recap because of the move.

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They show Leon's meltdown during

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They show a lot of the older 
 
children's meltdowns during the 

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move, and yeah, they keep 
 
harkening back to the family 

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crumbling, the change in the 
 
family dynamic and how they're 

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trying to get it back to that. 

They're just running on 

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treadmill trying to get back to 
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Yes, how they used to be when 
 
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home, the compound in Lehigh. 
 
Lehigh. 

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The flashbacks do include, at 
 
the end, all of the adults at 

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the cul-de-sac writing their 
 
checks for their properties, 

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which is of course a highlight 

of Season 4. 

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How could we ever forget that 
 
they all wrote checks from the 

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same place? 
 
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Not quite sure, perhaps. 
 
We could have another reminder 

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that they have 30 days to get 
 
their financing in order. 

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They need qualification 
 
approvals for financing in 30 

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days. 
 
OK, we got it. 

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We've been beat over the head. 

They've got 30 days. 

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They have 30 days to get their 

credit in order and to get an 

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approval letter for their 
 
financing. 

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There's a moment where Christine

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always paid for the bills when 

they all live together and that 

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this is her first time. 
 
Like basically living alone and 

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being responsible for the bills 
 of her homestead. 

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And so she says this is her 
 
first time paying for utilities 

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and blah, blah, blah. 
 
And it's like, oh, a little 

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foreshadowing because this 
 
detail you wouldn't really care,

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but it's coming up because we 
 
reference it later. 

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Yep, and she mentions that Robyn

 and Janelle's credit is not 

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great, but that hers is OK. 
 
And Meri's should be OK as well,

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but particularly Robyn. 
 
Robyn is going to have some 

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trouble here, which I love. 
 
I also find it super interesting

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that she's saying Janelle's 
 
credit isn't good and I was a 

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little shocked by that because 

Janelle is the one that's in 

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charge of the finances or has in

 the past been in charge of the

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finances and keeping the family 
 on track. 

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So in my mind, I automatically 

went to Janelle has taken on the

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responsibility of the debt, 
 
doesn't mean that it actually is

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hers. 
 
Probably not. 

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Is the reason that she has bad 

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the family and she feels 
 
responsible, so she took it on 

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because she's in charge of the 

finances. 

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Like I kind of got a bad feeling

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I personally think that 
 
Janelle's not good with 

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finances. 
 
I think that in this family, 

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she's the one that can put 
 
pluses and minuses in a 

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spreadsheet or can keep a Ledger

 and a checkbook. 

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But I don't think that she's 
 
good with money. 

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I don't think any of these 
 
people are good with money. 

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And I think that just because 
 
Janelle, they give her the title

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of the bookkeeper and the 
 
person, that's whatever, I could

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see that she would take on debt 
 that's not hers for some 

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reason, because they like pooled
things 
 and they stole from 

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Paul to feed Meri or whatever 
the phrases 
 are, you know? 

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And so that makes sense. 
 
It does go against the narrative

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of like, oh, Janelle's so on top

 of everything with the 

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finances. 
And I'm like, I don't think she 

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 is. 
Yeah, they claim that she's the 

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 frugal one, right? 
She's always the one that's 
 

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putting her needs last. 
And we hear that time and time 


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again. 
She doesn't want to buy things. 

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She doesn't want to buy sleeping

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bags for the camping trip, 
 
right? 

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And yet her credit might not be 
 great. 

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Yeah, I don't know that there's 
 such a direct connect with 

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between being cheap and being 
 
good at finances, but. 

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They try to make it that way. 
 
We go to the next scene and 

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Robyn is going to a law office 

to see Stephanie, the lawyer, to

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help repair her credit. 
 
She's blaming the divorce, of 

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course. 
 
Of course she is. 

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Blames the divorce and says that

 she took on the debt to create

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peace. 
 
And I went, what? 

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What? 
 
Yeah. 

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Oh, yeah. 
 
I totally believe that, too. 

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Like, I just don't believe 
 
anything these people say 

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anymore. 
 
I have a feeling my spider 

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sense, my Spidey sense tells me 
 that Robyn was forced to take 

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the debt because it was hers. 
 
I suspect that she probably just

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ran up a bunch of debt. 
 
I guess her ex-husband isn't 

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dumb enough to be like, yeah, 
 
I'll just take all of your debt.

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Like, I don't really know, but 

there's no way to prove that. 

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There's absolutely no way to 
 
prove that he racked up a bunch 

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of debt and she took it to keep 
 the peace. 

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I don't think that's likely. 
 
So I don't know. 

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This whole episode, she is lying

 through her teeth. 

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Oh, yeah. 
 
You can tell because some of the

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things that they show and some 

of the conversations they show 

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are having. 
 
I would probably be crying if I 

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was her if it was really the 
 
case. 

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Like if that's really what she 

was saying, I'd probably be 

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crying. 
 
And we know her as sobbing 

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Robyn, the fact that she's 
 
talking about this stuff and not

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crying and being so adamant and 
 has her jaw in this certain 

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position. 
 
She does the little like, upward

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thing with the jaw. 
 
Like, she's like got her nose in

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the air a little bit when she's 
 lying, and she's doing that the

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entire episode. 
 
She is lying for most of this 

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episode I would assume. 
 
Maybe there was other stuff 

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going on and she decided to take

 on the debt instead. 

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I just don't buy it. 
 
I don't buy it. 

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I don't know, and this is going 
 to be gendered and horrible, 

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but most women that I know or I 
hear 
 their stories when they 

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leave, their version of wanting 
to keep 
 peace is not asking 

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for child support. 
 
It is not asking for spousal 

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support, It's not assuming the 

family's debt. 

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So I've just never heard of this

 before and it's not like I'm 

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an expert in the field by any 
 
stretch, but I've never heard of

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a woman being like, I took the 

debt of our marriage when we got

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divorced. 
 
Like no, I've never heard of 

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that. 
 
No, not unless you were like 

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fleeing and you were like scared

 and just like needed to get 

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out of there. 
 
What she tries to play it off 

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as, which is what she's trying 

to play this off as like this 

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poor like she's almost playing 

like battered woman syndrome 

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here. 
 
And I don't like it. 

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It's phony and something super 

fishy about it. 

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And she's a lying to Kody. 
 
She is a lying to him and it 

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just feels very much like she's 
 trying to convince him, even 

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throughout this episode, of her 
 innocence in the divorce. 

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Yeah, she gets to be a victim. 

She loves doing that. 

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And her whole marriage, her 
 
whole first marriage, the 

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divorce, all the whatnot, 
 
there's a lack of detail. 

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There's never any real examples 
 given. 

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It's just that like a broad 
 
brush stroke of him being 

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terrible and him being horrible.

 

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And he's not here to defend 
himself. 
 

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He doesn't get to have any say 
in anything. 
 

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And I think there might also be 
an element of how in life, as 
 

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time passes from things, you 
build up a different narrative 


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in your head even. 
If you rewrite history in your 


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own mind and you start to 
believe what you, yeah, are 
 

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telling yourself and. 
I think, yeah, maybe he was an 


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asshole to her because she was a
loser wife that was spending all

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 their money and ridiculous and
wouldn't get a job. 
 

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I mean, I have no who knows what
the deal is. 
 

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Yeah. 
I just have a hard time 
 

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believing that he was so bad and
he was so horrible and she was 


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angelic and whatever, because 
that just doesn't go with what I

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 know about Robyn. 
Yeah, I wish that we knew more 


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about their history because 
obviously, like, I believe women

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 and we don't know what 
happened and God forbid he was 

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actually 
 abusive and she just 
never wants to talk about it, 

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which is 
 completely 
understandable and her right. 
 

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But I don't feel like that's the
case. 
 

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And I feel like most women 
watching this, like, you can 
 

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suss things like this out. 
And it just feels very grimy. 
 

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And it feels like she's trying 
to convince Kody throughout this

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 whole episode and convince 
other wives throughout this 

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whole 
 episode of this 
narrative and this story that 

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she's built up 
 to them to make
them feel sorry for her. 
 

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Yeah. 
It's just super fishy. 
 

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Super fishy. 
Not very believable. 
 

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And Meri on the couch, she's 
like, they go from the scene, 
 

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you know, she's in the law 
office. 
 

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She needs to get her credit 
score up to 600. 
 

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And then they go to the couch 
and Meri claims they are working

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 together and they are not 
blaming anyone. 
 

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We will not blame anyone. 
No, of course not. 
 

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How very diplomatic of Meri. 
In that same couch moment, Kody 

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 says that the sum of their 
holes are greater than any 

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parts, 
 which I love because 
I'm like, Oh my God, it wasn't 

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too long 
 ago we were talking 
about Robyn's holes in a 

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previous 
 episode, and now 
Kody's talking about the sum of 

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all of their 
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than the sum of their parts, or 

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whatever the 
 phrase is. 
And I was like, oh good Lord, oh

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 good Lord. 
All of their holes are 
 

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definitely greater than the sum 
of his parts. 
 

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Yes, well, that's that's for 
sure. 
 

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What is it that the only thing 
they have in common is sharing 


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his manhood? 
Yeah, yeah. 
 

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His manhood is what ties them 
together. 
 

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Oh God. 
They go back to the lawyer's 
 

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office and Robyn is asking if 
this can all be done in two 
 

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weeks. 
Two weeks. 
 

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If the lawyer can get her 
creditors settled in two weeks. 

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Right nuts. 

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I'm mind blown here. 
 
It's also weird because they had

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30 days and So what was it like?

 

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Maybe she couldn't see this 
person for two weeks. 
 

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But also, if you're filming, you
have to be able to pull strings 

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 with certain things. 
And it just seems more, you 
 

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know, Occam's razor, like all 
things being equal, the most 
 

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basic and most reasonable is 
probably true. 
 

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Robyn probably didn't do 
anything for like a week and 
 

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then was like, oh God, no, she 
she didn't. 
 

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Someone else told her that she 
had to do something about it. 
 

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I'm sure because she was so busy
doing what? 
 

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She was so busy doing what, this
entire time she's on the show. 


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I'm not saying that, oh, your 
show gets greenlit by TLC. 
 

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So you go out and get a job at a
gas station because you have to 

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 make ends meet, but you do 
something. 
 

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We're now going into Season 5 
and she's Hawking some stupid 
 

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jewelry business. 
It's like, bitch, earn some 
 

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money, do something. 
Oh God. 
 

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Well, the other family members 
like Kody and Meri are perhaps 


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selling pyramid scheme items, so
she could have hopped on that 
 

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bandwagon very easily. 
But. 
 

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She might have to do some social
media posts and host a party. 
 

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You know, these are things she 
could not do. 
 

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Just too much for her. 
I don't think she has the mental

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 capacity for her. 
Christopher. 
 

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No, no, no. 
No. 
 

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Got a lot of laying around 
breathing watching other people 

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 raise their children I. 
Don't understand. 
 

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I really don't get it. 
I think from the get go, when 
 

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you move there and you know 
you're looking for these homes, 

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 you'd already be starting to 
try to build your credit back 

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up. 
 
Right. 

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Why would you only need 30 days?

 

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Yeah. 
I think Kody said they'd been in

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 Vegas for a year and a half at
this point. 
 

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A year and a half. 
I mean, I don't know about 
 

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everybody else. 
I've been in a place where I've 

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 had to work on my credit 
before, and in a year and 1/2, I

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made 
 quite an impact. 
Like, it doesn't necessarily 
 

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take years to improve your 
credit score. 
 

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Like, Oh my God, Oh my God. 
And I really think that if her 


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credit had been this bad, that 
when she left her husband, she 


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should have instantly filed for 
bankruptcy, started over because

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 she'll say later on that she 
lived with her mom for a while. 

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She has this whole sob story 

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that she's Hawking instead of 
 
cheap goods. 

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And it's like, why wouldn't you 
 have with your children, you 

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know, filed for bankruptcy, 
 
applied for, you know, whatever 

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assistance you could have gotten

 during that time and started 

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working when you supposedly you 
 were a single working mom at 

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that time? 
 
Staying at your mom's house for 

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nine months, I believe later, 
 
she references nine months is a 

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chunk of time to get your act 
 
together, like it is to apply 

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for jobs and apply for programs,

 go through bankruptcy, like do

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what you've got to do. 
 
Yeah, but she thinks that 

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someones going to get her out of

 this. 

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She has this victim mentality. 

She has this woe is me, someone 

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come save me, help me please, 
 
like demeanor about her. 

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And even this just goes to show 
 it because two weeks you had to

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wait until you had two weeks 
 
left and somebody pushed you to 

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be like, well, we can't do this 
 for you. 

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You have to go do this. 
 
You're technically not married. 

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He can't do it for you. 
 
Like, Oh my fucking God. 

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She had to be drugged there by 

her fingernails. 

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Someone else probably had to 
 
make the appointment and do 

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everything and then she bothered

 to show up. 

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Yeah. 
 
Also, we're going to get into it

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later. 
 
I don't want to dwell on it too 

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much right now, but that whole 

victim mentality thing, she also

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has this thing where she's like,

 I don't want my past decisions

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and my previous marriage to 
 
affect the family. 

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So it's like she's a victim, but

 then also bringing it to the 

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next level of like, I can't 
 
believe these bad things that 

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happened to me in the past could

 affect the family. 

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So then she's almost a victim 
 
again because these things are 

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happening to her family members 
 like. 

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Girl, you drove that entire 
 
baggage cart right up to their 

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front door. 
 
Shut the fuck. 

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Up Yes, she did. 
 
And she was like do you mind? 

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OK. 
 
And this can't go in the dryer 

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like? 
 
Do you mind? 

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Do your own fucking laundry. 
 
Is that a personal attack, 

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Chris? 
 
I've never heard any stories 

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about you or your laundry. 
 
OK. 

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Never has my husband ever shrunk

 something that shouldn't have 

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been shrunken. 
 
Yes, well, and this is Oh well, 

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perfect, because this is where 

Robyn talks about how her 

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divorce affects the family. 
 
Now I've only got a couple of 

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weeks left. 
 
It's like an example of your 

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life. 
 
Sure. 

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It's just so ridiculous. 
 
It's so unnecessarily dramatic, 

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and she's the victim and 
 
everything's uphill. 

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It's like, girl, you had a year 
 and a half to get your shit. 

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You knew this was. 
 
Coming No, I was given two weeks

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I was. 
 
Given two weeks, I. 

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Was given two weeks of my 
 
diagnosis of credit. 

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God. 
 
Jesus 20. 

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Three years from now, the story 
 will be Robyn was forced into 

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getting a mortgage and it was so

 terrible. 

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Or some bullshit, you know, 
 
like, it'll just be like, Oh my 

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God, girl. 
 
Like perpetually the victim. 

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Virtually the victim. 
 
Thank God we get a commercial 

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break. 
 
OK, but because we watch on 

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Discovery Plus, Ding Ding. 
 
Ding I back at it. 

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We didn't have to see any 
 
commercials, thank you 

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Discovery. 
 
Plus, I'm just saying that in 

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case anyone's listening that 
 
wants to reach out to us anyway.

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So Janelle is going on her own 

little version of a field trip, 

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but hers isn't to figure out how

 to solve her debt issues in 

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two weeks. 
 
Hers is to go meet Mona at a 

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model house at the, I was going 
 to say the compound at the 

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development, yes, the cul-de-sac

 and the development where 

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they're moving to. 
 
And I love it because she 

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prefaces this visit with wanting

 to connect with Mona and look 

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at the model house to see where 
she 
 can keep costs low for her

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home build. 
 
Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep. 

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Our frugal queen. 
 
Listen, she might be bad at 

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keeping books. 
 
Doesn't mean she's not frugal. 

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Doesn't mean she's not cheap. 
 
She is. 

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The only reason that she's being

 cheap, and I think that we 

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find this out a little bit, is 

because of guilt. 

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Because of guilt for being a bad

 bookkeeper for the family. 

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Right, because everything's 
 
always in shambles. 

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But see, they never had much to 
 deal with. 

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So I don't want to be mean about

 Janelle. 

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I just really think that, you 
 
know, like when everyone's 

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earning an F and then you earn 

AD, it's like, well, you're the 

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one. 
 
You're our D earner. 

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Like, cool. 
 
Everyone turns to you. 

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Everyone turns to the D student.

 

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She believes that less rooms is 
going to equal less money. 
 

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So she's talking about how she 
just doesn't need that many 
 

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rooms. 
Her kids are all going to be 
 

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moving out and graduating soon. 
In the next few years, her boys 

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 can share a bedroom. 
They're probably going to hate 


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it, but they can share. 
Yeah. 
 

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Yeah. 
My God. 
 

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Kody thinks that they should do 
the five bedroom option with the

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 office and then Savannah can 
stay in the office. 
 

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So basically like a six bedroom 
house. 
 

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Yeah, it's probably not legally.
Maybe the office doesn't have a 

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 closet. 
My assumption is that the models

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 that they're picking from, 
there is something to do with 

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the 
 options that are available
equaling the bedrooms. 
 

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Meaning let's say there's a four
bedroom option and then a five 


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bedroom option. 
The five bedroom option probably

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 has like a little bit of a 
difference in the back or 
 

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something where there's a little
more room and there's more 
 

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options to put in the home. 
I'm saying this because when we 

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 get to Meri's options down the 
road, she wants options that 
 

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only come with the five bedroom,
not the four bedroom layout. 
 

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So of course she has to pick the
one with more bedrooms because 


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she needs the options that come 
with the five bedroom option. 
 

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What a selfish bitch. 
Exactly. 
 

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Meanwhile Janelle's going I only
need 4 bedrooms for my 87 
 

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children. 
It's like Janelle, you know? 
 

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Yeah, maybe you should pick 
builder grade options everywhere

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 and just get enough bedrooms 
for your children. 
 

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That's what I would do. 
But that's me. 
 

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I'm not earning AD in 
bookkeeping. 
 

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Allow your kids some privacy, 
you know, but they're probably 


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not supposed to have too much 
privacy because that could lead 

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 to sin so. 
It's best that they share a. 
 

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Room. 
Let's keep them all on top of 
 

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each other so they can't sin on 
their own. 
 

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No sinning in private. 
We do get some tidbits from 
 

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Janelle about their past 
finances. 
 

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She says that she has been 
resentful in the past about 
 

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money, particularly with Meri, 
for thinking Meri needs so much 

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 with only one child. 
She talks about how she would 
 

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pay for large things in the past
while otherwise didn't. 
 

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So I'm not sure what that has 
to. 
 

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I don't want to say what that 
has to do with today. 
 

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I think that was probably more 
of a past a pre TLC money thing 

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 where she was the breadwinner. 
And I could see easily being 
 

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frustrated when you're looking 
at all the bills and maybe you 


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pay the mortgage or something. 
And then it's like Meri's got 
 

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like the heat bill and the water
bill. 
 

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And then it's like, look at my 
coffee table. 
 

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No child is ever going to 
scratch their name into this, 
 

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you know? 
And Janelle's like, yeah, mine's

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 from IKEA and it's falling 
apart. 
 

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And so you know, I can see it 
may need to make sense. 
 

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Yeah, she's always made more 
money and then paid more towards

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 the bills and she has kind of 
resented it in the past. 
 

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But I think that when there is a
higher earner in the family, 
 

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usually from my experience, the 
higher earner and the lower 
 

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earner, what you do is you, you 
put it together and you say 
 

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based on what you make, you pay 
this percentage towards the 
 

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bills. 
I pay this percentage. 
 

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So it's like equal in the end, 
almost based off of what you're 

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 making. 
So your take home after the 
 

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bills are paid is still kind of 
the same, if that makes sense. 


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Like you're still taking home 
the same percentage as your 
 

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partner's taking home for, you 
know, maybe things that they 
 

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want to buy what you want to 
buy. 
 

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So it's it's odd to me that they
probably, it sounds like they 
 

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didn't do that. 
It sounds like they turned to 
 

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Janelle and just expected her to
pay more and didn't even figure 

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 out the percentage that each 
family member should be paying 


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based on their wage. 
Right. 
 

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It feels like to me that she has
been funding the family on her 


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salary and they're riding her 
coattails. 
 

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And you throw in a husband who 
I'm convinced through fact and 


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detective work, no, no detective
work, that Kody probably has 
 

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made very little money in his 
life. 
 

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And I think that it's even 
easier to make less money when 


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you're going from wife to wife 
to wife to wife. 
 

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And if the only one who's really
aware of how little money you 
 

446
00:24:35,804 --> 00:24:40,895
make is Janelle in the way that 
I'm talking about, that has to 


447
00:24:40,903 --> 00:24:43,822
add extra frustrations to her 
that she's not going to say 
 

448
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:46,300
right now, like she's not going 
to say that on camera. 
 

449
00:24:46,308 --> 00:24:49,116
But her husband was probably 
never really contributing all 
 

450
00:24:49,124 --> 00:24:52,742
that much to their finances. 
They talk about Meri and Kody 
 

451
00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:57,214
quitting jobs to go and do 
things that were more fun than 


452
00:24:57,222 --> 00:25:00,400
taking care of. 
Finances like traveling, sales, 

453
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,727
 jobs that were like what, Meri 
Kay, you got your little 
 

454
00:25:04,735 --> 00:25:06,628
convertible? 
I mean, come on. 
 

455
00:25:06,636 --> 00:25:10,800
They, I don't know, I think that
they have taken advantage of her

456
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,862

 and I think that they have 
basically used her as a meal 
 

457
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:20,370
ticket and she's just kind of 
taken it because that's how she 

458
00:25:20,370 --> 00:25:24,512
 is like silent but sturdy. 
I don't know, Silent. 
 

459
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,228
And. 
Sturdy, silent and sturdy, 
 

460
00:25:26,236 --> 00:25:27,435
Janelle it's. 
Janelle. 
 

461
00:25:27,443 --> 00:25:32,306
But now that she has heard 
Meri's voice, Meri has all of a 

462
00:25:32,306 --> 00:25:36,280
 sudden figured out a way to 
communicate her hurt about how 


463
00:25:36,288 --> 00:25:40,362
she thinks everyone expects her 
to take less because she only 
 

464
00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:44,108
has one child. 
Well Meri's finally been able to

465
00:25:44,108 --> 00:25:47,378

 effectively communicate this 
like 2 episodes so it's go on 
 

466
00:25:47,386 --> 00:25:51,326
the couch. 
So Janelle has defaulted to 
 

467
00:25:51,334 --> 00:25:54,200
shoulder shrug. 
I mean, she doesn't really care.

468
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,040

 
She doesn't care. 

469
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,880
They show one clip of this 
 
cracked me up. 

470
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,127
They show one thing that Janelle

 wants and she is talking to 

471
00:26:03,127 --> 00:26:07,127
Mona about one thing that she 
does 
 want in her house and 

472
00:26:07,127 --> 00:26:09,560
that is a pantry. 
 
Pantry. 

473
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,600
And it's because she buys in 
 
bulk. 

474
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,920
Yep. 
 
It's got a lot of mouths to 

475
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,960
feed. 
 
That's like a literally the only

476
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,640
thing that she really cares 
 
about is the pantry. 

477
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,954
From what they show us anyways. 
 

478
00:26:19,962 --> 00:26:22,518
Oh and the member, like she was 
like, oh, I don't necessarily 
 

479
00:26:22,526 --> 00:26:25,224
need a dining room because my 
table could fit right here like 

480
00:26:25,224 --> 00:26:27,728
 in the breakfast area. 
Which they're just going to cut 

481
00:26:27,728 --> 00:26:30,954
 this house in half for you to 
like save money, but then you're

482
00:26:30,954 --> 00:26:33,720

 going to have a giant ass lot 
for no reason. 
 

483
00:26:33,728 --> 00:26:38,302
Like what are you thinking? 
I could cut this entire space 
 

484
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:43,264
and put a dining room here 
instead of here to save money. 


485
00:26:43,272 --> 00:26:46,568
Do you honestly think they're 
going to do that with a builder 

486
00:26:46,568 --> 00:26:48,336
 home for you? 
It was so weird. 
 

487
00:26:48,344 --> 00:26:51,840
I think what she's referring to,
and this is just because I've 
 

488
00:26:51,848 --> 00:26:54,924
seen the show, seen these things
being built, is when you walk 
 

489
00:26:54,932 --> 00:26:57,134
in, there's a room to the left 
off the foyer. 
 

490
00:26:57,142 --> 00:26:59,695
Some people turn it into a 
study, some people have it as 
 

491
00:26:59,703 --> 00:27:02,230
the dining room. 
I think that might be the option

492
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:05,035

 to turn into the office or 
something, AKA Savannah's 
 

493
00:27:05,043 --> 00:27:08,880
bedroom, and then the breakfast 
nook thing off of the kitchen 
 

494
00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:10,515
can just serve as her dining 
room. 
 

495
00:27:10,523 --> 00:27:13,562
The only reason I feel like 
that's a little weird is because

496
00:27:13,562 --> 00:27:16,744

 of the size of their family. 
But if she's like I'm never 
 

497
00:27:16,752 --> 00:27:19,355
hosting anybody ever fucking 
dinner, then you know the dining

498
00:27:19,355 --> 00:27:20,840

 room. 
The breakfast looks probably 
 

499
00:27:20,848 --> 00:27:23,815
fine. 
And the fact that Savannah is 
 

500
00:27:23,823 --> 00:27:27,336
probably gonna have two French 
doors for bedroom doors. 
 

501
00:27:27,344 --> 00:27:29,240
Yeah. 
Oh yeah, with no. 
 

502
00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:32,450
Like Savannah, I know that you 
gave a box of rocks for 
 

503
00:27:32,458 --> 00:27:34,880
Christmas one year, but you 
still don't deserve this honey. 

504
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,240
 
Like you don't deserve you. 

505
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,640
Deserve a real bedroom in a new 
 build in a new build. 

506
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,920
Yeah, you don't deserve French 

doors. 

507
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,200
Don't even. 
 
Get a bedroom like my God, these

508
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,920
people. 
 
They just can't let that box of 

509
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,040
rocks go. 
 
And so they're like, yeah, give 

510
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,600
her this. 
 
Kody's like that bitch gave me 

511
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,680
the worst Christmas present or 

birthday present or whatever it 

512
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,200
was. 
 
It was Leon's gift. 

513
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,814
Oh, that's right, it was Leon's.

 

514
00:28:00,822 --> 00:28:02,034
Oh, that's right. 
Shit. 
 

515
00:28:02,042 --> 00:28:04,807
Leon's been talking shit this 
whole time, Leon. 
 

516
00:28:04,815 --> 00:28:06,187
Is not everyone against 
Savannah? 
 

517
00:28:06,195 --> 00:28:09,832
They have this huge campaign 
against Savannah, yes, telling 


518
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,105
everybody. 
Savannah ruined my life with 
 

519
00:28:12,113 --> 00:28:13,383
that box rocks. 
Denton. 
 

520
00:28:13,391 --> 00:28:17,470
Janelle lets us know that each 
wife will get the same budget 
 

521
00:28:17,478 --> 00:28:20,640
for their homes because you 
know, it is unfair to give less 

522
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,560
 to Meri because she only has 
one child. 
 

523
00:28:22,568 --> 00:28:24,367
So everyone should have the same
budget. 
 

524
00:28:24,375 --> 00:28:28,440
Makes it easy peasy lemon 
squeezy and all fair in love and

525
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,880

 war. 
This is once again why I think 


526
00:28:30,888 --> 00:28:32,592
Janelle earns AD in bookkeeping 
because duh. 
 

527
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,500
Like, I get it that it's a 
production point and like, she's

528
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:39,470

 probably prompted about it, 
but it's like, yeah, all four 

529
00:28:39,470 --> 00:28:43,032
wives 
 should get the same 
budget for their new build 

530
00:28:43,032 --> 00:28:46,280
homes. 
 
I hope she's just explaining it 

531
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,520
because someone asked. 
 
I think she really did just come

532
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,400
to that conclusion because she 

talks about how it's been harder

533
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,960
for her and Christine with 
 
having more kids and how they've

534
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,760
had to budget a lot harder and 

that, OK, I guess we can't pant,

535
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,240
pant. 
 
I got marbles in my mouth. 

536
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,225
I guess that we can't fault her.

 

537
00:29:09,233 --> 00:29:13,035
I've got Savannah's boxer rocks 
in my mouth right now, God damn 

538
00:29:13,035 --> 00:29:16,580
 it. 
Garbling them over here. 
 

539
00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:22,300
And they ain't polished. 
Oh well, I mean, it would be 
 

540
00:29:22,308 --> 00:29:26,628
harder for her and Christine. 
They have more kids. 
 

541
00:29:26,636 --> 00:29:28,647
That doesn't mean Meri deserves 
less. 
 

542
00:29:28,655 --> 00:29:32,656
We talked about this before. 
I truly believe that she is just

543
00:29:32,656 --> 00:29:34,312

 coming to this conclusion, 
right? 
 

544
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,048
I really think that. 
Well, good for Janelle. 
 

545
00:29:37,056 --> 00:29:40,652
Yeah, we cut to her sitting at 
her table, and she's paying 
 

546
00:29:40,660 --> 00:29:42,760
those bills. 
She's writing out her checks. 
 

547
00:29:42,768 --> 00:29:45,167
She's ripping it out of the 
checkbook. 
 

548
00:29:45,175 --> 00:29:51,467
She's licking the envelope with 
Janelle's licking lips and her 


549
00:29:51,475 --> 00:29:53,296
tongue. 
Yep. 
 

550
00:29:53,304 --> 00:29:58,824
She's paying those bills. 
When they cut away from her 
 

551
00:29:58,832 --> 00:30:03,860
couch interview, she has this 
deadpan face, she makes a 
 

552
00:30:03,868 --> 00:30:08,989
comment, she says OK, I don't 
care what she does, referring to

553
00:30:08,989 --> 00:30:12,165

 Meri. 
And then she stares straight at 

554
00:30:12,165 --> 00:30:17,780
 the camera with her like 
deadpan, like white pale face 
 

555
00:30:17,788 --> 00:30:23,104
and eyes, just like haunting, 
like staring straight ahead. 
 

556
00:30:23,112 --> 00:30:26,309
Yeah, non blinking. 
Yeah, I don't care what she 
 

557
00:30:26,317 --> 00:30:29,660
does. 
I don't care what she does. 
 

558
00:30:29,668 --> 00:30:33,692
Do you not really couldn't tell 
that you don't. 
 

559
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:37,030
It was it was a crazy thing that
they kept in. 
 

560
00:30:37,038 --> 00:30:39,900
Yeah, that was a choice. 
They kept it in for a reason. 
 

561
00:30:39,908 --> 00:30:42,058
That was a choice. 
Janelle doesn't look like she 
 

562
00:30:42,066 --> 00:30:45,029
doesn't care. 
It looks like it still bothers 


563
00:30:45,037 --> 00:30:45,947
her. 
Oh. 
 

564
00:30:45,955 --> 00:30:51,442
Her eyes is like twitching. 
Yeah, her mouth is saying one 
 

565
00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:55,734
thing, but her eyes, nose, and 
yes, that skin is saying 
 

566
00:30:55,742 --> 00:30:58,020
another. 
Yeah, they really, truly kept 
 

567
00:30:58,028 --> 00:31:03,840
that in for a reason. 
After this wonderful moment, she

568
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,800

 wonders to herself, she 
ponders to herself, I've 

569
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,748
wondered what 
 it would mean if
one day I was done and ran away.

570
00:31:11,748 --> 00:31:14,800

 
But I'm not going to because I'm

571
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,440
responsible. 
 
I've always, yeah, I've always 

572
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,120
done the record keeping for the 
 family. 

573
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,739
And I've just wondered, but what

 would happen if I just ran 

574
00:31:23,739 --> 00:31:27,175
away? 
Like, yeah, you've probably 
 

575
00:31:27,183 --> 00:31:31,634
really, really thought of this. 
The, the guy like her sitting at

576
00:31:31,634 --> 00:31:35,028

 a table doing this like, quote
UN quote, record keeping, 
 

577
00:31:35,036 --> 00:31:37,120
writing checks. 
And then there's just a fish 
 

578
00:31:37,128 --> 00:31:42,202
tank in the background. 
And it's just like her again, 
 

579
00:31:42,210 --> 00:31:47,440
being so serious yet not caring,
but wanting to run away. 
 

580
00:31:47,448 --> 00:31:51,575
And they're breaking the 3rd 
wall a lot in this episode. 
 

581
00:31:51,583 --> 00:31:56,046
The 4th wall. 
The 4th wall, What would be the 

582
00:31:56,046 --> 00:31:58,743
 3rd wall? 
Like you're being in a triangle 

583
00:31:58,743 --> 00:32:00,071
 room. 
I don't really know. 
 

584
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,900
I think this is not the first 
time that you've referenced 
 

585
00:32:02,908 --> 00:32:05,540
breaking the 3rd wall. 
And I'm like, it's the 4th wall,

586
00:32:05,540 --> 00:32:08,040

 darling. 
It's the 4th wall, yes. 
 

587
00:32:08,048 --> 00:32:12,000
They're talking straight to the 
wives a lot, like the producers 

588
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,156
 are obviously prompting with a 
lot of questions in this episode

589
00:32:15,156 --> 00:32:19,429

 and there's a lot of alone 
time for each of them and it's 


590
00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,690
tragic. 
Yeah, to give us their extra 
 

591
00:32:21,698 --> 00:32:23,440
special insights. 
To their own detriment. 
 

592
00:32:23,448 --> 00:32:26,194
Well, in Janelle's case, there's
a lot of staring. 
 

593
00:32:26,202 --> 00:32:30,508
A lot of staring and faking it 
till she makes it, but she 
 

594
00:32:30,516 --> 00:32:33,974
doesn't make it. 
A lot of this is how it is 
 

595
00:32:33,982 --> 00:32:35,280
because I'm matter of fact, I'm 
Janelle. 
 

596
00:32:35,288 --> 00:32:37,707
I'm the bookkeeper. 
Like OK, girl. 
 

597
00:32:37,715 --> 00:32:40,994
Hey, hey, instead of sitting at 
your desk with a blank wall, 
 

598
00:32:41,002 --> 00:32:44,510
let's put you at your table in 
front of a fish tank. 
 

599
00:32:44,518 --> 00:32:47,645
Pull her at the table thing. 
This is why I'm making fun of 
 

600
00:32:47,653 --> 00:32:49,520
it. 
She's like ripping out her one 


601
00:32:49,528 --> 00:32:51,419
check, right? 
She's like writing her check. 
 

602
00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:54,360
She's is she even paying a bill?
She might just be sitting there 

603
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,548
 being like, I'm going to do 
this for the camera. 
 

604
00:32:56,556 --> 00:32:59,448
Like it's just like, I don't 
know, I don't know. 
 

605
00:32:59,456 --> 00:33:01,800
It's performative and not in a 
way that I'm buying so. 
 

606
00:33:01,808 --> 00:33:03,924
It is. 
They also don't blur the check 


607
00:33:03,932 --> 00:33:07,589
out at all and I've noticed that
they do that with her and 
 

608
00:33:07,597 --> 00:33:08,740
Christine. 
Oh no. 
 

609
00:33:08,748 --> 00:33:11,707
Well, not like anyone would be 
like I know. 
 

610
00:33:11,715 --> 00:33:14,660
Did you get the account number? 
Steal money from these guys. 
 

611
00:33:14,668 --> 00:33:17,090
Don't say anything because now 
if someone steals money from 
 

612
00:33:17,098 --> 00:33:18,658
her, they're going to be like 
that podcast. 
 

613
00:33:18,666 --> 00:33:20,921
They were looking at her 
checking routing number. 
 

614
00:33:20,929 --> 00:33:23,550
It's like the same from 2012. 
Right. 
 

615
00:33:23,558 --> 00:33:26,872
We tried to write a $30 check 
and it bounces and it's like, 
 

616
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,507
good God, this family's 
terrible. 
 

617
00:33:28,515 --> 00:33:34,520
It's their joint account still, 
no one's ever detached from it, 

618
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,934
 even after all these years and 
everything that's happened. 
 

619
00:33:38,942 --> 00:33:46,200
My sister wifes closet Oh, it's 
an online boutique and 
 

620
00:33:46,208 --> 00:33:50,537
everybody's loving it I'm. 
Going to make us so much money. 

621
00:33:50,537 --> 00:33:52,160
 
They're going to be rich, rich, 

622
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,440
rich. 
 
You on the wildest imagination. 

623
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,666
You're going to want to rewind. 
 

624
00:33:57,674 --> 00:34:00,020
You're going to want to get that
checkbook number real quick 
 

625
00:34:00,028 --> 00:34:02,980
because my sister wife's closet 
is bringing in the bike. 
 

626
00:34:02,988 --> 00:34:07,029
You're going to want you're 
going to want to come in fraud 


627
00:34:07,037 --> 00:34:10,630
to get these jewelry pieces. 
Just like they apparently do 
 

628
00:34:10,638 --> 00:34:13,080
later on. 
Oh gosh, the closet up. 
 

629
00:34:13,088 --> 00:34:15,159
Sell things that they don't 
have. 
 

630
00:34:15,168 --> 00:34:17,400
Oh. 
Jeez, yes, well, you know, they 

631
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,106
 have to get some photos for 
their new website for My Sister 

632
00:34:21,106 --> 00:34:24,899
 Wife's Closet because My Sister
Wife's Closet is going to propel

633
00:34:24,899 --> 00:34:26,679

 them into the rich 
stratosphere. 

634
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,560
They are going to not have to 
 
worry about anything once they 

635
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,120
start selling their $300 pewter 
 jewelry online. 

636
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Pewter, great. 
 
It's going to be great. 

637
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,583
And they're going to meet with a

 photographer to take photos 

638
00:34:38,583 --> 00:34:41,120
for this website. 
 
Apparently this is the most 

639
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,840
creative photographer. 
 
He's renowned for his creativity

640
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,280
and I'm like renowned to who to 
 like Robyn when she's down at 

641
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,760
the like, wherever she goes, 
 
where does she even go? 

642
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840
What does she even do? 
 
She's like, going to the Kmart 

643
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,640
to buy her blue light special 
 
shirts, purple blouses. 

644
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,640
And she's like, I heard there's 
 a photographer in town. 

645
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,500
And the Kmart lady's like, yeah,

 I know this guy's name's 

646
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:05,770
Shane. 
He's so creative because he 
 

647
00:35:05,778 --> 00:35:09,475
wears a black fedora and a red 
tie and big thick black glasses.

648
00:35:09,475 --> 00:35:09,800

 
He. 

649
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Wears those thick glasses. 
 
He must be real creative like my

650
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,440
God. 
 
Very of the time, the fedora the

651
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,480
red tie the. 
 
Yeah, yeah. 

652
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,080
I mean, to be fair, he looked 
 
like the most creative person in

653
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,880
the Sister Wives universe at 
 
this point. 

654
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,360
Yep, Now while they're at the 
 
studio, you know they're all, 

655
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,360
they're all dolled up, they're 

all in their hair and their 

656
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,560
makeup and their clothes. 
 
In their hair. 

657
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,400
And they've got the white 
 
backdrop and the flashing 

658
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,880
lights, and it's like we're 
 
watching an episode of America's

659
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,440
Next Top Model. 
 
Of course. 

660
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,320
I was just waiting for Mr. J to 
 come out and be like, now this 

661
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920
shot, we're going to do this, 
 
and then this shot, we're going 

662
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,480
to do that. 
 
And then I really was hoping for

663
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,572
Tyra to eliminate Robyn, right? 
 

664
00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:56,480
Just like, get the fuck out. 
But unfortunately, no one's 
 

665
00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:59,808
getting eliminated this episode.
While they're on set. 
 

666
00:35:59,816 --> 00:36:03,689
Kody has some feelings about the
wives and him being the only man

667
00:36:03,689 --> 00:36:06,305

 right, with his four wives 
taking these photos. 
 

668
00:36:06,313 --> 00:36:09,460
Kimber, what does Kody think 
about this photo shoot? 
 

669
00:36:09,468 --> 00:36:13,296
Oh my gosh, he just thinks that 
he's going to look like a pool 


670
00:36:13,304 --> 00:36:18,620
boy or a boy toy being in all 
these women in this photo shoot.

671
00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:21,920

 
But Christine is the real, real 

672
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,920
winner of this scene because you

 know what? 

673
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,000
She says that women with 
 
websites and companies have 

674
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,255
pictures with their husbands on 
 their website because they do 

675
00:36:33,255 --> 00:36:36,760
it together and they get the 
 
support from their husband and 

676
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,480
they're in all the photos. 
 
It's like, what are you talking 

677
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,920
about to? 
 
Demonstrate that they're strong.

678
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,920
What? 
 
I know I'm thinking like how how

679
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,880
could one person single handedly

 set back women kind so far? 

680
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,250
But then it is Christine Brown. 
 

681
00:36:53,258 --> 00:36:55,078
Yeah, she's. 
Trying to get involved in this 


682
00:36:55,086 --> 00:36:59,270
and she's getting mad at him and
they're arguing on set of this 


683
00:36:59,278 --> 00:37:04,455
on photo shoot on location. 
They're arguing on location. 
 

684
00:37:04,463 --> 00:37:09,320
And literally Kody's saying it's
my sister wife's closet jewelry.

685
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,280

 
Why would I be in the photos? 

686
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,120
I feel like it should just be 
 
the women and she's. 

687
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,760
Like Faker? 
 
And I don't believe him for one 

688
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,640
second. 
 
He he would prefer it was just 

689
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,640
photos of them. 
 
I'm gonna. 

690
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,800
Throw punches, hold me back like

 that. 

691
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,148
Like that one friend that can't 
 fight and says that hold me 

692
00:37:24,148 --> 00:37:26,200
back hold. 
 
Me back, you can just Photoshop 

693
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,680
me out of these, right? 
 
He's like right in the middle of

694
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,880
every one of them. 
 
If he could be the only one on 

695
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,400
the website, he'd be happy about

 it. 

696
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,920
He's just putting on a show, 
 
just like Robyn saying, oh, I 

697
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,440
just don't want my past marriage

 to affect the family. 

698
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,320
But he's like, I don't want to 

be in these photos because it's 

699
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,560
about women. 
 
Like they're two liars. 

700
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,280
They belong together. 
 
And then Robyn makes it all 

701
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,760
better by saying you're just 
 
like that one guy that can pull 

702
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,800
off pink shirt shirt. 
 
God, it was so when you thought 

703
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,960
this scene couldn't get any 
 
Dumber, Robyn's like, yeah, 

704
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,840
Kody, I mean, you're a big, 
 
strong man here with us women. 

705
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,880
And it's like when a man wears a

 pink shirt like, Oh my God. 

706
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,880
Like wait, how many poles is he 
 wearing and are all the collars

707
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,240
popped? 
 
OK. 

708
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:20,200
God, it's so cringe and it's so 
 great because Christine's 

709
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,600
frustration levels keep rising 

and she's like, can we just get 

710
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,160
the photos done? 
 
Because I'm getting hot, I'm 

711
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,880
going to get sweaty. 
 
Like, let's do it. 

712
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,440
She just wants it done. 
 
And I don't blame her. 

713
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,560
It's hot under those lights. 
 
I know. 

714
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,440
You would know. 
 
It's a lot of pressure to look 

715
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,280
perfect for the camera. 
 
How many photo shoots have you 

716
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,440
done in your life? 
 
Too many to count. 

717
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,400
Too many hold me back, hold me 

back. 

718
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Oh my gosh. 
 
The photographer tells them we 

719
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,400
want a variety of photos and 
 
positioning to, you know, not 

720
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,680
demonstrate any favoritism 
 
because clearly they've got to 

721
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,880
do their round Robyn. 
 
No, God, let's not say that. 

722
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,800
They've got to do their 
 
readjustments. 

723
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,080
So not Meri and Janelle are 
 
always standing next to Kody. 

724
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,800
Sometimes Robyn and Christine 
 
need to be standing next to 

725
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Kody. 
 
They need some photos without 

726
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,320
Kody. 
 
They need some photos that are 

727
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,760
only Kody and that red spot on 

his nose that's been there for a

728
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,520
season and a half. 
 
Like he really needs to be in 

729
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,080
the photos. 
 
He really needs to not be in the

730
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,160
photos. 
 
Yeah, he's like every time that 

731
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,560
I was ready to move on and do 
 
different photos, the wives kept

732
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,240
saying that we just needed to 
 
rotate the order. 

733
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,760
And he's like, I found out real 
 quick, like the family dynamic,

734
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,120
we can't play favorites. 
 
And they literally are just 

735
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,880
like, OK, now you go, now you 
 
go, Oh my gosh, ladies, if 

736
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,208
you're that insecure about your 
 position in the family, phony 

737
00:39:38,208 --> 00:39:39,876
as fuck that they all care 
about. 
 

738
00:39:39,884 --> 00:39:42,535
I kind of felt like it was just 
like a moot point. 
 

739
00:39:42,543 --> 00:39:45,222
Like if you're a photographer 
and you're taking a photo of 
 

740
00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:47,775
four women and one man, you 
would be like, OK, let's flip 
 

741
00:39:47,783 --> 00:39:48,875
this around, let's swap it 
around. 
 

742
00:39:48,883 --> 00:39:50,952
You move here, you move that. 
Like it would just be part of 
 

743
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,941
the process. 
So it's a little like they took 

744
00:39:52,941 --> 00:39:55,890
 a little thing and made it into
a big thing, which is annoying. 

745
00:39:55,890 --> 00:39:56,960
 
Yeah, because they pretend that 

746
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,120
he's like shocked about it and 

like, oh, this is a new dynamic.

747
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,960
This is something that I've had 
 to, that I had to learn that I 

748
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,680
had to do all this and. 
 
I'm such a creative man, I've 

749
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,920
never asked someone to move 
 
while taking their picture 

750
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,520
before. 
 
And then they kick Kody out and 

751
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,880
they're doing all of the women 

and they're laughing and being 

752
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,080
happy and he has them stand like

 weirdly far apart. 

753
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,560
Yeah. 
 
He's like, give it a foot or two

754
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,040
between each of you. 
 
Like, OK. 

755
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,240
All right. 
 
Hopefully there were ones where 

756
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,000
they were all together. 
 
There were there were ones where

757
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,280
they were like hands around each

 other's shoulders and smiling.

758
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,680
And it demonstrated what Robyn's

 point was that she thinks the 

759
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,600
photos show how all the wives 
 
are so different. 

760
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,531
They look so different and they,

 yes, they present so 

761
00:40:39,531 --> 00:40:40,750
different. 
They're wearing different 
 

762
00:40:40,758 --> 00:40:42,430
colors. 
Yeah. 
 

763
00:40:42,438 --> 00:40:46,445
They're different complexions. 
That's what makes this all so 
 

764
00:40:46,453 --> 00:40:49,024
special, is like our differences
and like these photos are just 


765
00:40:49,032 --> 00:40:51,090
going to show that. 
Yeah, the differences also 
 

766
00:40:51,098 --> 00:40:53,504
connect to my sister wife's 
closet for some reason. 
 

767
00:40:53,512 --> 00:40:56,441
We're all of our products are 
going to be so great because 
 

768
00:40:56,449 --> 00:40:58,000
everyone's so different. 
We're different. 
 

769
00:40:58,008 --> 00:41:01,980
Like, yeah, no, you're putting a
bunch of hearts together and 
 

770
00:41:01,988 --> 00:41:03,836
yeah, linking them and making 
them all a. 
 

771
00:41:03,844 --> 00:41:05,120
Bunch of hot air. 
Bizarre. 
 

772
00:41:05,128 --> 00:41:07,920
Total garbage. 
Did you notice that? 
 

773
00:41:07,928 --> 00:41:12,640
So they do, you know, pick 
flashes to Kody during the 
 

774
00:41:12,648 --> 00:41:16,380
women's photo shoot and he's 
still over there, like posing on

775
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:19,320

 the side, like along with him,
but he doesn't know that he's 
 

776
00:41:19,328 --> 00:41:21,718
doing it. 
They're like showing him and 
 

777
00:41:21,726 --> 00:41:25,382
he's like doing like poses on 
the side still and like smiling 

778
00:41:25,382 --> 00:41:27,340
 like he's on the camera with 
them. 
 

779
00:41:27,348 --> 00:41:31,246
And it's like. 
You can't stop a you can't stop 

780
00:41:31,246 --> 00:41:33,780
 a shot. 
You can't. 
 

781
00:41:33,788 --> 00:41:36,920
You can't stop a star from 
shining, honey. 
 

782
00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:40,450
You can't stop a charlatan in 
his tracks. 
 

783
00:41:40,458 --> 00:41:45,207
You can't stop a star from 
shining like Koda Brown. 
 

784
00:41:45,215 --> 00:41:49,325
Nope, Nope, Nope. 
It was a lot to take in and 
 

785
00:41:49,333 --> 00:41:51,336
let's move on. 
We're only slightly traumatized.

786
00:41:51,336 --> 00:41:53,280

 
We're going to cut to the 

787
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,760
streets of Las Vegas where the 

hookers are hanging out and the 

788
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,080
drug dealers and hookers and the

 gamblers and hookers. 

789
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,200
And the flashing lights. 
 
The flashing lights and Maddie's

790
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,480
walking these streets like a 
 
street Walker, like a hooker 

791
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,880
with her two girlfriends, some 

bland girls who I don't care 

792
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,240
about. 
 
Did you catch their names? 

793
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,120
No, but they are all wearing 
 
matching black shirts and they 

794
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,960
are strutting their stuff down 

the strip. 

795
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,320
Oh. 
 
Strutting down the strip. 

796
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,560
They all literally were wearing 
 like matching black T-shirts. 

797
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,320
They thought this was the cutest

 thing ever. 

798
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,800
I probably would have thought 
 
the same if I was that age doing

799
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,920
that. 
 
While Maddie is strutting the 

800
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,689
streets with her whore friends. 
 

801
00:42:32,697 --> 00:42:36,600
We find out they're going to go 
zip lining these little. 
 

802
00:42:36,608 --> 00:42:38,706
Whores. 
They are going to go zip lining,

803
00:42:38,706 --> 00:42:41,192

 but Janelle, Kody and Maddie 
are also on the couch. 
 

804
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,727
The producers are giving us some
extra special insights into 
 

805
00:42:44,735 --> 00:42:48,055
their delicate lives. 
Janelle tells us that she felt 


806
00:42:48,063 --> 00:42:51,362
like a failure as a mother when 
she was moving her children to 


807
00:42:51,370 --> 00:42:54,536
Las Vegas and she should have 
felt like a failure as a mother 

808
00:42:54,536 --> 00:42:57,546
 just a little bit. 
Maddie doesn't know if she wants

809
00:42:57,546 --> 00:43:00,465

 to move back to Utah or not 
because she's made some friends,

810
00:43:00,465 --> 00:43:03,014

 but she misses her life back 
in Utah. 
 

811
00:43:03,022 --> 00:43:06,043
We're still talking about this. 
I don't want to talk about this.

812
00:43:06,043 --> 00:43:07,080

 
Do you want to talk about this? 

813
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:13,480
They're just trying very hard to

 get emotions out of Maddie and

814
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,360
she's clenched up, like in her 

face. 

815
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,880
She's not really giving them 
 
anything. 

816
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,320
And you can tell that they're 
 
trying to get her to, like, 

817
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,320
emote and make a thing on this 

couch and she's not doing it for

818
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,840
them. 
 
And she's probably burnt out, 

819
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,960
you know, talking about it at 
 
this point. 

820
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,400
They talk about drinking and 
 
partying and oh, she doesn't 

821
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,600
drink. 
 
She's not going to screw up her 

822
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,320
life. 
 
She's not a drinker. 

823
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,920
They start talking about how 
 
she's not brainwashed by 

824
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,160
religion and. 
 
Yeah, she doesn't want to get 

825
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,520
sloppy. 
 
She doesn't want to be sloppy. 

826
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,480
She does hang out with some 
 
people that drink, but that's 

827
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,240
not her lifestyle. 
 
It's like they're trying to get 

828
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,920
something out of her. 
 
And I kind of just feel bad for 

829
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,200
her. 
 
Like she's a teenage girl and 

830
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,120
she's sitting there with both of

 her parents and it just feels 

831
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,080
really awkward. 
 
Like you said, her and her 

832
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,680
horror friends go ziplining, 
 
which is like whatever, who 

833
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,920
cares? 
 
Maddie's friends ask her if she 

834
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,400
could be a polygamist when she 

grows up, would you be a 

835
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,560
polygamist? 
 
And and what they fail to ask 

836
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,280
is, oh, if you were back home, 

would you already be married 

837
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,760
with children and your 
 
polygamist cult? 

838
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,564
Instead they're like, oh, do you

 see yourself being a 

839
00:44:37,564 --> 00:44:38,952
polygamist when you're an adult?

 

840
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,864
And she says no, she doesn't 
want to share her man and I 
 

841
00:44:42,872 --> 00:44:44,640
don't blame her. 
I don't want to share my man. 
 

842
00:44:44,648 --> 00:44:46,464
I don't have a man. 
I don't even want a man and if I

843
00:44:46,464 --> 00:44:51,340

 had one I wouldn't share him. 
When being compared to Leon, 
 

844
00:44:51,348 --> 00:44:55,329
Maddie says that Leon is boring 
and so are their friends. 
 

845
00:44:55,337 --> 00:44:59,760
She says Leon hangs out with a 
bunch of Mormons and I don't, 
 

846
00:44:59,768 --> 00:45:03,174
which I love because Leon does 
look boring. 
 

847
00:45:03,182 --> 00:45:06,772
Leon seems very boring. 
Yeah, she thinks that Leon will 

848
00:45:06,772 --> 00:45:08,966
 have that lifestyle, like, for 
sure, right? 
 

849
00:45:08,974 --> 00:45:12,104
Leon will be a polygamist 
without a doubt. 
 

850
00:45:12,112 --> 00:45:17,070
They go back to the couch and 
Maddie is telling Kody and 
 

851
00:45:17,078 --> 00:45:20,920
Janelle that she is not going to
choose that lifestyle and that 


852
00:45:20,928 --> 00:45:23,328
she is not choosing their 
religion. 
 

853
00:45:23,336 --> 00:45:28,784
Like she's equating this 
lifestyle to the entire religion

854
00:45:28,784 --> 00:45:31,756

 in general. 
And they're trying to tell her 


855
00:45:31,764 --> 00:45:36,347
like, you can still be a part of
our faith and not practice 
 

856
00:45:36,355 --> 00:45:39,168
polygamy. 
But Maddie's equating polygamy 


857
00:45:39,176 --> 00:45:42,574
and the the religion as the same
thing. 
 

858
00:45:42,582 --> 00:45:46,946
So it's a little confusing. 
And I do know that this is part 

859
00:45:46,946 --> 00:45:49,432
 of their religion. 
They believe that being 
 

860
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,045
polygamists gets them, you know,
whatever they're going to get 
 

861
00:45:54,053 --> 00:45:58,134
more from God than the rest of 
us fools. 
 

862
00:45:58,142 --> 00:46:03,008
But it's interesting that 
Maddie's like including their 
 

863
00:46:03,016 --> 00:46:07,738
religion as a whole and saying 
she's not going to be a part of 

864
00:46:07,738 --> 00:46:09,560
 that. 
Well, I suspect it's because 
 

865
00:46:09,568 --> 00:46:13,148
they're part of a cult. 
And so she's probably just like,

866
00:46:13,148 --> 00:46:15,712

 fuck this shit. 
Like, I don't want to be a part 

867
00:46:15,712 --> 00:46:18,168
 of it. 
Yeah, even if you're a part of a

868
00:46:18,168 --> 00:46:20,312

 big normalized cult. 
I mean, when I was a teenager, I

869
00:46:20,312 --> 00:46:21,920

 was like, I'm not doing this 
shit. 
 

870
00:46:21,928 --> 00:46:24,146
So. 
You think she realized that at 


871
00:46:24,154 --> 00:46:27,795
this point though, because she 
was just so sad about leaving 
 

872
00:46:27,803 --> 00:46:29,810
Utah. 
It's only been a year and a 
 

873
00:46:29,818 --> 00:46:31,500
half. 
Do you think that after only a 


874
00:46:31,508 --> 00:46:34,800
year and a half you would be 
fully pulled out of it by that 


875
00:46:34,808 --> 00:46:36,598
point? 
Well, I don't know how old she 


876
00:46:36,606 --> 00:46:38,286
is, if she's like 16 or 
something. 
 

877
00:46:38,294 --> 00:46:44,040
Then at 16, I thought my 
parents, church and whatever was

878
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,943

 bogus. 
OK. 
 

879
00:46:44,951 --> 00:46:48,360
So I don't know, we don't get an
opportunity to hear Maddie's 
 

880
00:46:48,368 --> 00:46:51,642
real feelings because once 
again, she is like you were 
 

881
00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:55,040
saying, she was being kind of 
like coerced into having 
 

882
00:46:55,048 --> 00:46:57,090
reaction. 
And so they were trying to get 


883
00:46:57,098 --> 00:46:58,872
something. 
I don't really know what 
 

884
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,067
Maddie's actual thoughts are 
here. 
 

885
00:47:00,075 --> 00:47:03,600
Obviously Maddie's just not in 
love with the idea of being part

886
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,880

 of the AUB, which is a cult, 
so. 

887
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Well, and they keep saying this 
 entire time, all of the parents

888
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,640
keep saying that the children 
 
have a right to choose if they 

889
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,920
want to be a part of the show or

 not. 

890
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,394
And that's why some children are

 on the show more than others 

891
00:47:16,394 --> 00:47:19,440
is because they're choosing to 
or 
 not to participate. 

892
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,160
But this whole scene and even 
 
the couch interview felt very 

893
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,720
forced for her. 
 
Do they say that the kids don't 

894
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,440
have to participate? 
 
Yeah, in the show. 

895
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,520
Christine talks about it in her 
 book, especially how each child

896
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,080
was able to make the decision on

 their own. 

897
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,280
And that's why I like some of 
 
them are featured more than 

898
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,880
others and some of them are 
 
sometimes and some of them are 

899
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,520
not when they come in and out 
 
based on their feelings towards 

900
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,040
being on the show. 
 
But this felt so forced almost 

901
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,600
Like sure, maybe the little kids

 had that decision, but did the

902
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,840
older kids? 
 
I don't know if the older kids 

903
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,080
had the same choice to 
 
participate or not. 

904
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,200
I feel like that sounds like a 

later thing. 

905
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,880
I don't know. 
 
I would assume that they didn't 

906
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,800
feel like they had a choice. 
 
And even Kody at the end of 

907
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,320
this, like, Couch interview says

 that he believes that religion

908
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,040
will keep the kids from the dark

 side. 

909
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,960
And, like, that's how they end 

the, like, couch interview. 

910
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,960
And it's just kind of like, all 
 right, the dark side. 

911
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,240
Sure. 
 
And. 

912
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,320
Now we are going to be 
 
introduced to a new Sister Wives

913
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,760
character, however briefly. 
 
Robyn's cousin or sister? 

914
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,960
No, her younger. 
 
Sister, her baby. 

915
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,720
Sister Tara Lease. 
 
Tara Lease, her baby sister, is 

916
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:40,400
going to be watching Saul. 
 
If they get the houses, Tara 

917
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,720
lease is going to move in with 

Robyn. 

918
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,600
Oh isn't that speed? 
 
Yep. 

919
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,880
OK. 
 
And that's the end of that 

920
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,040
scene. 
 
We're going to move on. 

921
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,080
That's literally it. 
 
Well, I'm so glad we got 

922
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,040
introduced to Tara Lease and I 

just love the name Tara Lease. 

923
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,560
There's just something that 
 
sounds so not inbred about it. 

924
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,040
Tara lease. 
 
Tara lease. 

925
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,080
That's literally it. 
 
Tara Lease is Tara. 

926
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,920
Elise is watching the children, 
 or at least one child, so that 

927
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,240
Robyn and Kody can go see a debt

 specialist. 

928
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,480
Now, honey, how far away are we 
 from the deadline for their 

929
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,120
financing when they're going to 
 see the debt specialist? 

930
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,800
One week. 
 
One week. 

931
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,760
One week. 
 
Seven days. 

932
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,080
And the debt specialist, his 
 
name is Harry Jacobs. 

933
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,560
And the reason I know it's Harry

 Jacobs is because Kody says 

934
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,240
Harry Jacobs, you're our only 
 
hope. 

935
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,400
His second Star Wars reference 

within like 2 minutes in the 

936
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,040
show. 
 
What was the other one? 

937
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,120
The dark side, that religion 
 
will keep them from the dark 

938
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,520
side. 
 
And I got to say, I don't claim 

939
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,600
him. 
 
I was going to say you were 

940
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,120
touched in special. 
 
Places no, as a as an avid Star 

941
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:57,920
Wars fan, we do not claim him. 

I denounce him from the Star 

942
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,120
Wars fandom. 
 
Oh I feel like Kody is your own 

943
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,360
personal Obi Wan Kenobi blood is

 boring. 

944
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,446
Try to forget that you ever said

 that because my cat is named 

945
00:50:10,446 --> 00:50:15,252
Obi Wan cat Nobi and he is far 
wiser 
 than one Kody Brown 

946
00:50:15,252 --> 00:50:17,760
could ever be. 
 
Don't worry, I'll distract you 

947
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,200
with some Robyn stories. 
 
So Robyn was a single working 

948
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,200
mother. 
 
She was a single mom. 

949
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,480
I didn't know that. 
 
She was a she was a single 

950
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,920
mother for years after she left 
 her ex-husband. 

951
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,200
He was so bad to her she had to 
 leave. 

952
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,520
And when she left she lived with

 her mother for nine months and

953
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,040
she could never take care of her

 debt in those nine months. 

954
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,920
She couldn't she couldn't do 
 
anything. 

955
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,800
She couldn't get out of bed, she

 couldn't get in her car, she 

956
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,440
couldn't walk down the street. 

Robyn is full of couldn't and 

957
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,960
she could not, and she would 
 
not, and so she shan't. 

958
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,800
Harry says that a few of these 

debts that are in collection 

959
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,840
might be able to be deleted from

 her credit score. 

960
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,480
And Robyn goes, it's a big deal 
 that they may delete some debt 

961
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,400
affecting my score, but. 
 
Oh, Harry Jacobs. 

962
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,440
Here is the thing, Robyn, you're

 acting like they're just going

963
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,040
to delete your debt altogether. 
 

964
00:51:21,048 --> 00:51:23,515
That is not what Harry Jacobs 
said. 
 

965
00:51:23,523 --> 00:51:29,572
He said from your credit score, 
not just eliminating your debt. 

966
00:51:29,572 --> 00:51:32,320
 
And she's acting like a dumb 

967
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,040
ass, like she thinks, Oh my God,

 they're just going to forget 

968
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,160
that I owe them money. 
 
Like no, they're going to delete

969
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,920
it from your credit score. 
 
If you probably pay a reduced 

970
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,480
whatever like, they'll negotiate

 something, you pay it, they'll

971
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,440
remove it. 
 
Yeah. 

972
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,880
Hopefully she got that figured 

out by the time it happened. 

973
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,320
Who knows? 
 
Because it's Robyn. 

974
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,600
Here's where we find out 
 
something truly interesting. 

975
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:01,720
Since all of this debt 
 
collection has started, she has 

976
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:06,240
had three different last names 

and been off the radar, 

977
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,360
according to Harry. 
 
And she just has to let us know 

978
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,920
that it wasn't on purpose. 
 
It was to sever ties with my ex.

979
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:22,440
I wasn't trying to hide from the

 debt or outrun it, no. 

980
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:24,640
Three different last names on 
 
her credit score? 

981
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:32,160
Yep, she's divorced. 
 
Interestingly enough, we hear 

982
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,280
her refer to her last name as 
 
Sullivan. 

983
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,918
When she went to the lawyer when

 when she was at the front 

984
00:52:36,918 --> 00:52:38,670
desk, they said, oh, and your 
name? 
 

985
00:52:38,678 --> 00:52:41,828
And she said Sullivan, that's 
her ex or that I don't know what

986
00:52:41,828 --> 00:52:44,075

 name that is because. 
That must be her maiden. 
 

987
00:52:44,083 --> 00:52:48,324
Her maiden. 
So I'm guessing it was her ex 
 

988
00:52:48,332 --> 00:52:51,720
maiden, then Brown. 
But is her last name Brown? 
 

989
00:52:51,728 --> 00:52:53,480
She's not legally married to 
him. 
 

990
00:52:53,488 --> 00:52:57,800
But she could legally change her
last name if she wanted to. 
 

991
00:52:57,808 --> 00:53:01,482
Yeah, so even though this sounds
like, what kind of moron doesn't

992
00:53:01,482 --> 00:53:03,720

 know they have three names on 
their credit score? 
 

993
00:53:03,728 --> 00:53:07,386
No, she did this on purpose. 
It's also like she could have 
 

994
00:53:07,394 --> 00:53:10,308
three different last names and 
would it be the weirdest thing 


995
00:53:10,316 --> 00:53:14,806
in the world? 
No, but it also is fishy. 
 

996
00:53:14,814 --> 00:53:15,880
Agreed. 
It's like. 
 

997
00:53:15,888 --> 00:53:17,566
Her story is this whole fucking 
episode. 
 

998
00:53:17,574 --> 00:53:21,560
And Robyn talks about how she 
feels ashamed for having debt 
 

999
00:53:21,568 --> 00:53:24,245
and collections. 
She feels so ashamed, but not 
 

1000
00:53:24,253 --> 00:53:26,600
ashamed enough to do anything 
about it. 
 

1001
00:53:26,608 --> 00:53:28,125
Just. 
Shamed. 
 

1002
00:53:28,133 --> 00:53:32,228
Oh, every dime is to take care 
of the kids. 
 

1003
00:53:32,236 --> 00:53:34,760
I was a single working mother 
and every dime was to take care 

1004
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,540
 of the kids. 
And I had to think about putting

1005
00:53:36,540 --> 00:53:38,530

 food on the table. 
And those debt collectors, they 

1006
00:53:38,530 --> 00:53:41,610
 would call me and I would say 
to them, I have kids. 
 

1007
00:53:41,618 --> 00:53:43,974
I'm a single working mother. 
I can't. 
 

1008
00:53:43,982 --> 00:53:46,470
Afford. 
Anything money for you, not even

1009
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:47,870

 a dime. 
I can't. 
 

1010
00:53:47,878 --> 00:53:51,170
Afford anything but to put food 
on the table and have heat and 


1011
00:53:51,178 --> 00:53:53,400
electricity. 
Oh, but she didn't even have 
 

1012
00:53:53,408 --> 00:53:55,679
heat, Christopher. 
She had to light fires. 
 

1013
00:53:55,687 --> 00:53:58,901
She had to light fires, keep her
kids warm, and they even show us

1014
00:53:58,901 --> 00:54:01,475

 a picture of one of them in 
front of a tiny little space 
 

1015
00:54:01,483 --> 00:54:05,270
heater. 
Dayton sitting in front of a 
 

1016
00:54:05,278 --> 00:54:08,596
space heater. 
They show a picture of it to try

1017
00:54:08,596 --> 00:54:10,000

 to like, garner sympathy for 
us. 

1018
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,160
But I wrote right here, she is 

straight up lying, not even 

1019
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,160
crying. 
 
Yes, yes, lying and not even 

1020
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,720
crying. 
 
She is a crier. 

1021
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:22,200
We know she's a crier this 
 
entire time where she's telling 

1022
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,240
this sob story about being a 
 
single working mother and she 

1023
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:29,280
couldn't even pay a dime toward 
 towards the creditors that were

1024
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,600
calling her constantly. 
 
And I didn't change my last name

1025
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,160
to avoid the creditors. 
 
I was answering the phone and I 

1026
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,880
was telling him I was a single 

working mom. 

1027
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,600
Bitch, we all know you'd be 
 
balling up a storm if that were 

1028
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,840
true. 
 
We all know you'd be crying so 

1029
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,685
hard right now if that was true.

 

1030
00:54:46,693 --> 00:54:49,900
Interesting when the tears form 
and when they don't, Yeah. 
 

1031
00:54:49,908 --> 00:54:52,700
It's very, very convenient for 
her, isn't it? 
 

1032
00:54:52,708 --> 00:54:54,668
Yes. 
Yeah, My favorite detail, 
 

1033
00:54:54,676 --> 00:54:58,522
though, about her trailer life 
was when she talks about making 

1034
00:54:58,522 --> 00:55:00,600
 the fires to keep her family 
warm. 
 

1035
00:55:00,608 --> 00:55:06,480
I believe she says that she made
fires in the oven, which I don't

1036
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,450

 know. 
I can't put my hand on a Bible, 

1037
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:11,444
 certainly not Kody's Bible and 
swear to that. 
 

1038
00:55:11,452 --> 00:55:15,080
But I think she would have said 
made fires in the oven. 
 

1039
00:55:15,088 --> 00:55:17,824
Like girl, she's a mess. 
She's. 
 

1040
00:55:17,832 --> 00:55:20,679
Such a mess and. 
Even if she didn't say that, I'm

1041
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:24,462

 going to pretend she did. 
It was like, she said that she 


1042
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:30,280
had to make fires in something. 
And it's a lot of moms that 
 

1043
00:55:30,288 --> 00:55:34,960
can't keep the heat on 
throughout the winter will heat 

1044
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,152
 their house with the stove. 
Yeah, which is very dangerous. 


1045
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,420
It's actually like, super 
dangerous. 
 

1046
00:55:41,428 --> 00:55:47,797
And so I have empathy for any 
mother that has to do that to 
 

1047
00:55:47,805 --> 00:55:51,542
keep their children warm. 
I cannot even imagine being in 


1048
00:55:51,550 --> 00:55:56,240
that type of a position, which 
is why I don't believe her 
 

1049
00:55:56,248 --> 00:55:59,360
because she cries over 
everything and she is not doing 

1050
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,760
 it right now. 
And then they try to show us 
 

1051
00:56:01,768 --> 00:56:04,300
that SOB picture of Dayton in 
front of a space heater. 
 

1052
00:56:04,308 --> 00:56:07,384
And it's like you just told us 
you lit fires and you're showing

1053
00:56:07,384 --> 00:56:10,320

 a picture of him in front of a
space heater. 
 

1054
00:56:10,328 --> 00:56:12,200
Totally different things. 
Robyn. 
 

1055
00:56:12,208 --> 00:56:15,072
A fucking liar. 
God, yeah. 
 

1056
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,800
Back in the day, I mean, I'm not
gonna say that there's photos of

1057
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,416

 me sitting in front of a space
heater, but there's probably 
 

1058
00:56:21,424 --> 00:56:26,159
photos of me and my parents 
entryway next to like a a mobile

1059
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:29,312

 radiator heater, like one of 
those little oil ones. 
 

1060
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,880
Like, it just looked like an 
aged photo, like an old photo of

1061
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,064

 the time, like kids sitting in
front of a space heater in the 


1062
00:56:36,072 --> 00:56:38,240
winter in their trailer. 
Like, even if you have heat. 
 

1063
00:56:38,248 --> 00:56:39,254
Yeah, like. 
He's smiling. 
 

1064
00:56:39,262 --> 00:56:42,394
It's like a happy photo of him. 
It's not like he's sitting there

1065
00:56:42,394 --> 00:56:44,565

 like a normal photo in a soup 
line. 
 

1066
00:56:44,573 --> 00:56:48,942
Like, come on, I don't know, my 
kids have space heaters in their

1067
00:56:48,942 --> 00:56:52,408

 rooms right now because we 
have, you know, that side of our

1068
00:56:52,408 --> 00:56:54,000
house 
 is colder than the other
side. 

1069
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,440
So they get space heaters. 
 
And you know what I mean? 

1070
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:02,164
It's like it's they're trying to

 make her story seem so sob 

1071
00:57:02,164 --> 00:57:04,600
right now but she's not even 
sobbing, 
 no. 

1072
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,480
She's not even sobbing. 
 
Not sobbing, Robyn. 

1073
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,480
Fishy, fishier than a dolphin. 

And she is probably going to try

1074
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,760
to claim that the reason that 
 
her stories are so fishy is 

1075
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,400
because she was kidnapped by 
 
dolphins, which is not true. 

1076
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,440
Which is not true. 
 
Which is just simply not true. 

1077
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,240
We know that you didn't even 
 
swim with them. 

1078
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,880
That was Meri. 
 
I wonder that was Meri. 

1079
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,000
I wonder if she has dolphin 
 
accoutrement within her home, 

1080
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,440
like if she has dolphin decor to

 keep our eyes peeled. 

1081
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,040
I bet you that the Dolphins 
 
would denounce her just like I'm

1082
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,680
denouncing Kody from the Star 
 
Wars fandom. 

1083
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,120
The Dolphins would be like, we 

don't want her. 

1084
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,120
Yeah, what would they say? 
 
We don't want you stopping, 

1085
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:52,240
Robyn, No. 
 
Now that they put their snoot 

1086
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,200
and Meri special place, they 
 
don't want Robyn. 

1087
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,440
Luckily we get to move on to 
 
Meri's house now. 

1088
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,080
I'm not so sure that this is 
 
luckily, but we're moving on 

1089
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,960
luckily. 
 
Luckily, luckily, luckily, 

1090
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,800
luckily, luckily, luckily, 
 
luckily. 

1091
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,520
Kody tells us that he is so 
 
proud of Leon because Leon is 

1092
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,960
being entered into the National 
 Honor Society, which is great. 

1093
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,680
Apparently it's for smart 
 
people. 

1094
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,600
I won't know anything about 
 
that, but they're going to go to

1095
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,040
a ceremony for Leon being 
 
inducted as a member to the 

1096
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,640
National Honor Society. 
 
Now, you know. 

1097
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,000
Cool. 
 
I guess it's about academic 

1098
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,680
achievement or as a testing, who

 knows. 

1099
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,520
You just have to make over 
 
certain grades, like in the 

1100
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,600
semester to be on the honor 
 
roll. 

1101
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,840
I was on it. 
 
What does that tell you is? 

1102
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,360
The honor roll the same thing as

 National Honor Society though 

1103
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,080
darling, I think these might be 
 different. 

1104
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,920
Things You're trying to diminish

 my accomplishments. 

1105
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,920
Yes, I think that you're not 
 
part of the National Honor 

1106
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,680
Society. 
 
I think you just got a little 

1107
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,200
from your school, but I think 
 
these might be different things.

1108
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,360
I don't. 
 
Know well either way, Kody 

1109
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,280
believes that Leon could be a 
 
doctor now because Leon made the

1110
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,040
National Honor Society, so that 
 means that Leon could be a 

1111
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,400
doctor. 
 
Thank God. 

1112
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,400
And Leon is looking for post 
 
secondary schools with good 

1113
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,200
medical programs of course. 
 
Well, lovely. 

1114
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,745
Apparently, Utah's one of them. 
 

1115
00:59:19,753 --> 00:59:21,736
Yeah, of course. 
So luckily for Leon. 
 

1116
00:59:21,744 --> 00:59:25,160
I can go back to being a plague 
in Utah. 
 

1117
00:59:25,168 --> 00:59:29,042
Of course, Leon always wanted to
be a doctor, yadda yadda yadda. 

1118
00:59:29,042 --> 00:59:30,760
 
Leon wants to return to Utah 

1119
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,040
because that's where their 
 
people are. 

1120
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,360
They're people. 
 
I can't wait for Leon to find 

1121
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,920
out who their people really are 
 because it's probably not a 

1122
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,960
bunch of polygamists in Utah. 
 
No, and Leon is adamant. 

1123
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:49,440
And Leon says flat out, I am 
 
going to have sister wives. 

1124
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,160
Yeah, Leon has a lot of adamacy 
 these days. 

1125
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,520
A lot of gall. 
 
A lot of things going on with 

1126
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,000
Leon. 
 
Leon hopes that Meri takes Robyn

1127
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,400
up on her surrogacy offer. 
 
So now we get to talk about the 

1128
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,120
surrogacy. 
 
Thank God we've been waiting to 

1129
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,600
hear about it again. 
 
Well, and we also had to get 

1130
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,880
Leon's opinion on it finally, 
 
you know, because why not? 

1131
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,258
We got to bring it up again for 
 the second time in this 

1132
01:00:15,258 --> 01:00:17,099
episode. 
Now, do you want to test your 
 

1133
01:00:17,107 --> 01:00:20,848
acting chops here, honey, and 
give us Leon talking about how 


1134
01:00:20,856 --> 01:00:23,027
Leon prayed every night. 
OK. 
 

1135
01:00:23,035 --> 01:00:25,030
Are you ready for this? 
Ready. 
 

1136
01:00:25,038 --> 01:00:28,774
You can choose to be an empty 
nester. 
 

1137
01:00:28,782 --> 01:00:33,174
I hope she picks Robyn up on her
offer. 
 

1138
01:00:33,182 --> 01:00:38,420
I've prayed every single night 
for another baby. 
 

1139
01:00:38,428 --> 01:00:43,500
Now you have this choice, and if
you choose not to, you're taking

1140
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:50,560

 this away from all of us. 
Things would be better maybe. 
 

1141
01:00:50,568 --> 01:00:55,784
Oh, that was great, honey. 
I think Leon would give you a 
 

1142
01:00:55,792 --> 01:00:58,744
round of applause. 
Leon was angry. 
 

1143
01:00:58,752 --> 01:01:02,840
Yeah, Leon was pissed. 
So angry, yeah. 
 

1144
01:01:02,848 --> 01:01:07,358
Saying this. 
The anger on their face, I had 


1145
01:01:07,366 --> 01:01:12,564
to point it out to Chris. 
During this, I paused it to 
 

1146
01:01:12,572 --> 01:01:19,440
write notes and I was like, look
at their face right now while 
 

1147
01:01:19,448 --> 01:01:22,916
saying this. 
It's like straight up anger. 
 

1148
01:01:22,924 --> 01:01:27,600
Yeah, not even sadness. 
It's like resentment and anger. 

1149
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,760
 
That guilt inducing for sure. 

1150
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,520
Like the goal was to make Meri 

feel like shit for sure. 

1151
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,840
Oh yeah, definitely. 
 
And Meri says I haven't made a 

1152
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,920
decision yet, I need a little 
 
more time to figure it out. 

1153
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,120
And then Leon, just like, 
 
unplugs their mic pack and walks

1154
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,960
out because Leon is so 
 
distraught over not having a 

1155
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,560
sibling. 
 
And it's such bullshit because 

1156
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,840
Meri's saying that she hasn't 
 
made, I haven't made a decision 

1157
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,560
yet is just pandering. 
 
It's pandering. 

1158
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:03,880
I feel like Meri is trying so 
 
hard in this moment to pull the 

1159
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,720
wool over Leon's eyes. 
 
And it's also not fair to Leon. 

1160
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,600
And this is part of the reason 

that maybe Leon still believes 

1161
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,920
this is a possibility and is so 
 angry about it because the 

1162
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,280
parents lie all of the time to 

the older kids. 

1163
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,080
And this is probably one of 
 
those things that has been lied 

1164
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:28,680
about time and time again. 
 
I think that Leon is angry with 

1165
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:34,360
God about not having a sibling 

and doesn't understand it. 

1166
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:40,280
And I thought when Leon was 
 
looking at Meri with such 

1167
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:47,480
disdain, you little selfish 
 
bitch. 

1168
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:55,320
Do you even realize how horrible

 this is for your mother? 

1169
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,080
Do you realize what it's like to

 be pregnant? 

1170
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,040
Do you realize what it's like to

 lose a baby? 

1171
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,160
Do you realize what it is like 

for a woman in this religion to 

1172
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,280
not be able to have as many 
 
children as they're supposedly 

1173
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,800
supposed to have to make it to 

this point in heaven and feel 

1174
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,247
like you're going to go to hell 
 because you can't have 

1175
01:03:17,247 --> 01:03:18,748
children? 
Fuck you. 
 

1176
01:03:18,756 --> 01:03:23,060
And if I was their mother in 
that moment in time and they 
 

1177
01:03:23,068 --> 01:03:27,235
were looking at me and talking 
to me like that, I probably 
 

1178
01:03:27,243 --> 01:03:31,014
wouldn't have been trying to 
pander to them. 
 

1179
01:03:31,022 --> 01:03:35,776
I probably would have been like,
sit the fuck down and talk to me

1180
01:03:35,776 --> 01:03:39,012

 with a little more respect. 
That's what I would have said. 


1181
01:03:39,020 --> 01:03:41,961
I'm I like, I'm sorry. 
I'm not sorry. 
 

1182
01:03:41,969 --> 01:03:46,124
That was ridiculous. 
And Meri just took it and then 


1183
01:03:46,132 --> 01:03:48,495
started blubbering herself. 
Yeah, after Leon leaves Meri's, 

1184
01:03:48,495 --> 01:03:50,858
 like, this is more stress than 
I need. 
 

1185
01:03:50,866 --> 01:03:55,040
It's like, yeah, Oh my God. 
That would be heartbreaking for 

1186
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,849
 a mother to like, realize that 
your child potentially hates you

1187
01:03:57,849 --> 01:04:01,472

 so much for not being able to 
have children when it's not 
 

1188
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,218
something you wanted for 
yourself. 
 

1189
01:04:03,226 --> 01:04:07,445
Kody says that he agrees with 
Leon, blah blah, blah, blah 
 

1190
01:04:07,453 --> 01:04:11,720
blah, and there's an element of 
that with Leon's behavior. 
 

1191
01:04:11,728 --> 01:04:16,760
I think like that Leon sees the 
way that people talk to Meri, 
 

1192
01:04:16,768 --> 01:04:19,922
particularly Kody, and feels the
right to do so as well. 
 

1193
01:04:19,930 --> 01:04:24,200
Leon's also like, OK, an only 
child in Meri's home in this 
 

1194
01:04:24,208 --> 01:04:28,570
larger family. 
And there's an element to me of 

1195
01:04:28,570 --> 01:04:30,570
 God. 
It's so tough because with their

1196
01:04:30,570 --> 01:04:32,590

 cult religion, there's like 
this piousness, there's this, 

1197
01:04:32,590 --> 01:04:34,848
you 
 know, we're better than 
everybody else thing. 
 

1198
01:04:34,856 --> 01:04:38,656
And I feel like that gets beat 
into their heads, especially 
 

1199
01:04:38,664 --> 01:04:41,678
with someone like Leon, like I'm
going to live this life. 
 

1200
01:04:41,686 --> 01:04:44,036
I'm going to follow this thing. 
I'm going to follow the calling.

1201
01:04:44,036 --> 01:04:45,840

 
And I'm so this and I'm so that.

1202
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,320
And then my mom has this 
 
opportunity to have someone else

1203
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,080
have a child for her. 
 
And she's not taking it. 

1204
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,360
Like it's like selfish of her 
 
not to even have more children. 

1205
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,600
And it's like, my God, like 
 
you're such a fucking know it 

1206
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,376
all and you're spoiled as shit. 
 

1207
01:04:58,384 --> 01:05:02,560
Frankly, spoiled as shit. 
The know it all behavior, the 
 

1208
01:05:02,568 --> 01:05:04,094
entitlement. 
Yeah, yeah. 
 

1209
01:05:04,102 --> 01:05:09,939
The nose in the air about it. 
Kody's a bitch in this scene and

1210
01:05:09,939 --> 01:05:14,180

 Leon's a bitch in this scene. 
Got 2 little bitches ganging up 

1211
01:05:14,180 --> 01:05:18,340
 on our little mare bear about 
her womb yet again. 
 

1212
01:05:18,348 --> 01:05:21,780
Our bear, Mare bear. 
Mirror Bear I just. 
 

1213
01:05:21,788 --> 01:05:26,590
I so badly wish I could have 
like swooped into Meri's body 
 

1214
01:05:26,598 --> 01:05:32,703
like the Holy Ghost and been 
like, Leon shut the fuck up, do 

1215
01:05:32,703 --> 01:05:38,848
 not talk to me this way or 
you're going to go to hell. 
 

1216
01:05:38,856 --> 01:05:43,502
Like, God, I was so angry for 
Meri listening to that, and then

1217
01:05:43,502 --> 01:05:48,040

 for Kody to jump on the 
bandwagon and join in after Leon

1218
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,958

 left the room. 
I just, I don't know, I felt so 

1219
01:05:52,958 --> 01:05:55,228
 bad for Meri. 
It was bad. 
 

1220
01:05:55,236 --> 01:05:59,984
Yeah, and not even our first 
forced child interview awkward 


1221
01:05:59,992 --> 01:06:01,431
situation. 
Same thing with Maddie. 
 

1222
01:06:01,439 --> 01:06:03,916
Like, I was like, we're going to
set you on this couch and we're 

1223
01:06:03,916 --> 01:06:05,875
 going to make you talk about 
this shit and it's going to be 


1224
01:06:05,883 --> 01:06:08,016
unpleasant and we're going to 
film it and it's going to be on 

1225
01:06:08,016 --> 01:06:09,540
 national television. 
And then in the future, 2 
 

1226
01:06:09,548 --> 01:06:11,862
deadbeat losers are going to 
talk about it on a podcast. 
 

1227
01:06:11,870 --> 01:06:15,285
But Leon was hot to trot. 
Leon was hot to tear her mother 

1228
01:06:15,285 --> 01:06:15,898
 apart. 
Yeah. 
 

1229
01:06:15,906 --> 01:06:20,390
About absolutely eager to do so.
Can we move on from this 
 

1230
01:06:20,398 --> 01:06:22,648
scarring experience? 
I don't know, I suppose my 
 

1231
01:06:22,656 --> 01:06:24,672
cheeks are all hot. 
I do love it. 
 

1232
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,800
But not in a good way. 
Being the Holy Spirit and 
 

1233
01:06:27,808 --> 01:06:30,968
entering Meri's body. 
I mean, I wish I could have at 


1234
01:06:30,976 --> 01:06:32,770
that point. 
Now which hole would you have 
 

1235
01:06:32,778 --> 01:06:35,440
entered through? 
I'm going to say her left 
 

1236
01:06:35,448 --> 01:06:36,508
nostril. 
Oh, the nostril. 
 

1237
01:06:36,516 --> 01:06:39,902
Yeah, that maybe you're going to
go for an ear, but nostril? 
 

1238
01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:43,328
Nostrils are a little large, I 
feel like I would have entered 


1239
01:06:43,336 --> 01:06:49,018
through one of them. 
Oh, just like Miss Frizzle. 
 

1240
01:06:49,026 --> 01:06:52,881
Your nostril. 
I'm driving my school bus in 
 

1241
01:06:52,889 --> 01:06:55,782
there, Holy Spirit. 
And I'm going to tell you while 

1242
01:06:55,782 --> 01:06:57,800
 we're in here, what's wrong 
with your ovaries because I'm 

1243
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,838
going 
 to check it out in my 
magic school bus and I'm going 

1244
01:07:00,838 --> 01:07:04,900
to 
 teach the children what 
really happens with sexuality. 


1245
01:07:04,908 --> 01:07:08,935
Anyway, moving on. 
You need sperm in here, that's 


1246
01:07:08,943 --> 01:07:10,700
nothing to worry about, don't 
you? 
 

1247
01:07:10,708 --> 01:07:16,188
Tavern is empty. 
Hello, hello, hello, hello. 
 

1248
01:07:16,196 --> 01:07:19,760
See, this hymen is intact. 
It's been re intact. 
 

1249
01:07:19,768 --> 01:07:22,336
It's been rebirthed. 
Rebirth regrown. 
 

1250
01:07:22,344 --> 01:07:27,456
It's been regenerated. 
Yes, Hymen is re intact so 
 

1251
01:07:27,464 --> 01:07:31,214
nothing's happening here kids. 
Got to go, God. 
 

1252
01:07:31,222 --> 01:07:33,800
We're sick. 
Well, you know, but Meri's like,

1253
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,010

 don't worry about that. 
Got plenty of sexual activity 
 

1254
01:07:36,018 --> 01:07:40,740
happening with my husband. 
He's trying to impregnate me. 
 

1255
01:07:40,748 --> 01:07:44,752
Pragante esto pragante. 
God, after this unfortunate 
 

1256
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,444
incident with Leon on the couch,
we're going to cut to all the 
 

1257
01:07:49,452 --> 01:07:51,340
adults meeting with Mona at her 
office. 
 

1258
01:07:51,348 --> 01:07:54,250
Oh so lovely. 
Mona Mona's office. 
 

1259
01:07:54,258 --> 01:07:58,868
We had some interesting tidbits 
from Christine in this episode. 

1260
01:07:58,868 --> 01:08:00,360
 
There's couch moments, there's 

1261
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,120
on spot interview moments, 
 
there's things happening. 

1262
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,760
And Christine says in one of 
 
these cutaways that she feels 

1263
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,600
like a single mom ever since 
 
they moved to Vegas. 

1264
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,000
She's just on her own with 
 
everything and this is not what 

1265
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,880
she signed up for. 
 
She did not sign up to be a 

1266
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,680
single mother with a baby on her

 hip stand in the front yard 

1267
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,000
smoking a cigarette. 
 
No, she definitely did not. 

1268
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,042
Truly, with that little head and

 that little hair and that 

1269
01:08:25,042 --> 01:08:27,520
weird body. 
 
The cutest? 

1270
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,156
I mean, very cute, but it does. 
 

1271
01:08:30,163 --> 01:08:32,325
I'm just kidding. 
The visual of Christine holding 

1272
01:08:32,325 --> 01:08:36,470
 her and smoking in the yard 
like oh God, no, no, no, no, no.

1273
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:37,359

 
Gosh, what's that? 

1274
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,680
I stand very fronted in my own 

front yard with baby on my hip. 

1275
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,200
Oh God. 
 
Christine's a red. 

1276
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,560
Woman, we Can't Sing too much or

 they're going to come for us. 

1277
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,399
Shit. 
 
Now Janelle says that she needs 

1278
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,279
to stay practical. 
 
What a shock. 

1279
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:54,960
Practical. 
 
Just worried that our dreams 

1280
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,840
might be crushed. 
 
Now, Mona says, we never 

1281
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,800
discussed what would happen if 

only three of you qualify for 

1282
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,279
these loans. 
 
Now, remember I told you not to 

1283
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:10,319
make any late payments while we 
 were gathering these things 

1284
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,560
together. 
 
And Christine's like, oh, I 

1285
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,800
think I've missed a payment. 
 
Think I've missed a water 

1286
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,600
payment. 
 
It's like, Oh my God, these 

1287
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,359
people, they are literally 
 
trying to qualify for home 

1288
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:22,840
loans. 
 
And Christine's like, oh, I've 

1289
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,834
never had to be responsible for 
 paying my own bills, and I 

1290
01:09:24,834 --> 01:09:26,075
think I missed a water payment. 
 

1291
01:09:26,082 --> 01:09:29,399
He forgot about my water bill. 
Oh God, but I'm going to feel so

1292
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:32,979

 bad if this is me. 
Oh really? 
 

1293
01:09:32,988 --> 01:09:38,161
Kody is really mad about this? 
Kody is mad that she even 
 

1294
01:09:38,169 --> 01:09:40,184
brought it up. 
Really, Christine? 
 

1295
01:09:40,192 --> 01:09:45,439
Because that'd be the reason 
it's about Janelle and Robyn and

1296
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,215

 I. 
Is it motherfucker? 
 

1297
01:09:48,223 --> 01:09:52,435
Well, it is funny because we 
know that they're in this 30 day

1298
01:09:52,435 --> 01:09:55,350

 window of time, right? 
So is it? 
 

1299
01:09:55,358 --> 01:09:58,410
So can we blame Christine? 
I'm going to go with yes. 
 

1300
01:09:58,418 --> 01:10:00,522
Should we? 
Probably not, but you know, like

1301
01:10:00,522 --> 01:10:04,082

 logic would tell you if you 
missed your water bill, it's not

1302
01:10:04,082 --> 01:10:07,274

 going to like be determined 
late and sent to a collector and

1303
01:10:07,274 --> 01:10:08,800
all 
 this stuff in like 30 
days. 

1304
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,640
But in her mind, she's scared. 

She's never paid the bills 

1305
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,520
before. 
 
We just heard about that earlier

1306
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,200
in the episode. 
 
And how the world works. 

1307
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,920
It's her first. 
 
Time paying the bills on her 

1308
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,840
own. 
 
Janelle's not doing it anymore 

1309
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,120
for her good. 
 
Lord. 

1310
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,760
So she did this horrible thing, 
 Yeah. 

1311
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,760
And then Kody, everyone. 
 
'S going to be fucked because of

1312
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,920
Christine. 
 
Well, Kody gets mad at her for 

1313
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,880
even bringing it up like she's 

selfish for thinking it would be

1314
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,120
her that would cause the 
 
problem. 

1315
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,000
And I thought it was that he was

 pointing out like, you're an 

1316
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,600
idiot, like you missed a water 

bill. 

1317
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,600
It's not going to derail you 
 
from buying a home. 

1318
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:44,000
But no, I think he was looking 

at her like you're selfish for 

1319
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,440
thinking it could be you that 
 
would be the problem here. 

1320
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:49,120
Either way, Christine is the 
 
problem. 

1321
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,840
Then Mona is like, I'm going to 
 pull out a piece of paper, I'm 

1322
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:53,986
going to pull out the paperwork.

 

1323
01:10:53,994 --> 01:10:57,585
She's got her papers in front of
her and she's going to drag this

1324
01:10:57,585 --> 01:10:59,555

 out for production, which I 
appreciate. 
 

1325
01:10:59,563 --> 01:11:02,240
Got to give Mona her flowers. 
I appreciate. 
 

1326
01:11:02,248 --> 01:11:05,941
It like who's getting the roses 
here bachelor style? 
 

1327
01:11:05,949 --> 01:11:08,303
Who's getting approval? 
Who's? 
 

1328
01:11:08,311 --> 01:11:11,995
Gonna get pre approval, not even
approval pre approval. 
 

1329
01:11:12,003 --> 01:11:15,498
Like drawing it out like 
Survivor style. 
 

1330
01:11:15,506 --> 01:11:17,794
Who's getting voted off the 
island? 
 

1331
01:11:17,802 --> 01:11:20,800
Like we've got, well, we 
probably do have an entire 
 

1332
01:11:20,808 --> 01:11:23,128
season of this. 
Look where we ended at Season 3 

1333
01:11:23,128 --> 01:11:26,054
 and then at 4:00. 
So the end of at the end of 
 

1334
01:11:26,062 --> 01:11:29,015
Season 5, we're sitting at bonus
table doing paperwork. 
 

1335
01:11:29,023 --> 01:11:33,280
Talking about surrogacy, No, not
at bonus table, but at every 
 

1336
01:11:33,288 --> 01:11:37,360
other fucking table. 
They're moving at a snail's pace

1337
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,470

 here. 
The first document. 
 

1338
01:11:39,478 --> 01:11:40,882
Oh. 
Chris, I would like to point 
 

1339
01:11:40,890 --> 01:11:42,470
out, they're not moving at a 
snail's pace. 
 

1340
01:11:42,478 --> 01:11:45,464
They're moving at a slug's pace 
because they don't have a shell,

1341
01:11:45,464 --> 01:11:48,632

 they don't have homes. 
So moving at a slug's pace is 
 

1342
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,614
more like it. 
Just saying. 
 

1343
01:11:50,622 --> 01:11:53,900
Thank you for clarifying. 
For the record, the first 
 

1344
01:11:53,908 --> 01:11:57,792
documents handed are handed to 
Janelle and Janelle. 
 

1345
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,896
It's approved. 
And Janelle is surprised. 
 

1346
01:12:01,904 --> 01:12:07,626
She is like wow, wow, wow. 
Well, first it's Meri and Kody 


1347
01:12:07,634 --> 01:12:09,428
and everyone was like wow. 
We knew that. 
 

1348
01:12:09,436 --> 01:12:10,909
That's right, Meri and Kody were
first. 
 

1349
01:12:10,917 --> 01:12:13,850
Well, we forget about it because
it was just like a gift here. 
 

1350
01:12:13,858 --> 01:12:15,820
You go. 
And that's why I don't 
 

1351
01:12:15,828 --> 01:12:18,520
understand why Kody was like 
throwing it in Christine's face,

1352
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,336

 like, oh, you're not the one 
to wear because she was. 
 

1353
01:12:21,344 --> 01:12:24,370
Annoyed that she didn't get the 
comp, she didn't comprehend that

1354
01:12:24,370 --> 01:12:27,294

 one water payment miss does 
not derail your credit in 30 I. 

1355
01:12:27,294 --> 01:12:27,960
 
Don't believe that. 

1356
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,417
I think he thought she was being

 selfish by bringing herself 

1357
01:12:30,417 --> 01:12:32,126
up. 
Listen, the proof is in the 
 

1358
01:12:32,134 --> 01:12:34,488
pudding. 
Either way, Meri and Kody get 
 

1359
01:12:34,496 --> 01:12:39,120
approved, Janelle gets approved,
and Janelle is just like 
 

1360
01:12:39,128 --> 01:12:41,418
Hallelujah. 
Wow, wow. 
 

1361
01:12:41,426 --> 01:12:48,228
Who gets the next draw? 
Christine is next on the list of

1362
01:12:48,228 --> 01:12:52,668

 document recipients and the 
paper is slid to her and Mona 
 

1363
01:12:52,676 --> 01:12:57,435
says you are approved. 
And Christine tells us about her

1364
01:12:57,435 --> 01:12:59,280

 feelings. 
I missed the beginning. 
 

1365
01:12:59,288 --> 01:13:02,267
I feel like she is like a 
little. 
 

1366
01:13:02,275 --> 01:13:04,534
She was. 
Drugged up right now, she's all.

1367
01:13:04,534 --> 01:13:05,200

 
Over the place. 

1368
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,440
She she probably is drugged up. 
 

1369
01:13:07,448 --> 01:13:11,040
She's maybe this was that one 
week she was addicted to pills. 

1370
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,240
 
Maybe, yeah, maybe. 

1371
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,280
Maybe she had one beer before 
 
this. 

1372
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,720
Yeah, she might have had her one

 beer. 

1373
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,760
Her one cider Christine feels 
 
like she's been failing a lot 

1374
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,960
right now. 
 
Yes, she's overweight, she can't

1375
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,760
lose weight. 
 
She's failed at that. 

1376
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:26,994
She's been overweight her whole.

 

1377
01:13:27,002 --> 01:13:28,550
Life. 
She's been overweight her whole 

1378
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:31,480
 life and so being approved for 
this was huge. 
 

1379
01:13:31,488 --> 01:13:35,670
It was huge, she says. 
Oh God. 
 

1380
01:13:35,678 --> 01:13:40,270
Cut to Kody's healing cold sore.
That's like. 
 

1381
01:13:40,278 --> 01:13:45,968
That's the next thing I noticed.
Also, OK, Kody's cold sore, but 

1382
01:13:45,968 --> 01:13:49,340
 then we've got Christina's 
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer 


1383
01:13:49,348 --> 01:13:52,180
over there on the couch. 
Oh yeah, why? 
 

1384
01:13:52,188 --> 01:13:56,400
Is her nose so fucking? 
Red, she's just so worked up, I 

1385
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,480
 think that her nose is so that 
happens to me too. 
 

1386
01:13:59,488 --> 01:14:02,464
Sometimes and it's about being 
fat her whole life and then 
 

1387
01:14:02,472 --> 01:14:06,031
missing a water bell. 
Like all of this adds up to like

1388
01:14:06,031 --> 01:14:09,849

 bright Red Nose. 
I mean, I am pale. 
 

1389
01:14:09,857 --> 01:14:17,183
I'm a pale pasty girl this time 
of year, living in the northern 

1390
01:14:17,183 --> 01:14:18,360
 hemisphere. 
OK. 
 

1391
01:14:18,368 --> 01:14:23,870
No, sunshine, I feel her on the 
bright red burning face in 
 

1392
01:14:23,878 --> 01:14:27,254
moments where you wish it didn't
happen, Maybe not quite so much.

1393
01:14:27,254 --> 01:14:28,160

 
Knock on wood. 

1394
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,640
I fucking hope not that bright 

red Rudolph knows. 

1395
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:37,080
But oh God, the thing that 
 
really, truly just got me going 

1396
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,080
in this moment was the small, 
 
tiny violins that we're playing.

1397
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,200
Well, this is it. 
 
I was going to say you the 

1398
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,480
dramatic music because now we're

 going to move on to wife #4. 

1399
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,680
And there's like angels with 
 
their tiny little hands playing 

1400
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,840
tiny little violins. 
 
The saddest? 

1401
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,840
Meaning their tiny little 
 
voices. 

1402
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:06,200
And then Robyn says I didn't 
 
want my past marriage to affect 

1403
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,440
this family. 
 
I'm just. 

1404
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,360
Waiting for the blow. 
 
Wait. 

1405
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:18,720
Waiting for the blow and Mona 
 
says and Robyn, and then they 

1406
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,920
get the shriek sound effect that

 they always do and we cut to 

1407
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,200
commercial break. 
 
So many eye rolls from Robyn 

1408
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,160
during all of this, by the way. 
 

1409
01:15:27,168 --> 01:15:29,698
Eye rolls from. 
Robyn yeah. 
 

1410
01:15:29,706 --> 01:15:34,430
So many like, like, exasperated 
eye rolls. 
 

1411
01:15:34,438 --> 01:15:38,686
So did so girl, so probably. 
So she's doing these like, 
 

1412
01:15:38,694 --> 01:15:40,074
exasperated like. 
Irritated. 
 

1413
01:15:40,082 --> 01:15:44,728
Like what would you do? 
Like these just automatic. 
 

1414
01:15:44,736 --> 01:15:50,556
Like humph, like I roll moments 
like drama, playing it up, 
 

1415
01:15:50,564 --> 01:15:55,600
waiting for the blow. 
Didn't all my past marriage do 


1416
01:15:55,608 --> 01:15:58,490
affect this family again? 
So after the commercial break, 


1417
01:15:58,498 --> 01:16:02,823
we come back and Robyn's still 
talking and she's like, I was 
 

1418
01:16:02,831 --> 01:16:07,169
living. 
All of the old hurts came to the

1419
01:16:07,169 --> 01:16:09,360

 surface. 
They did. 
 

1420
01:16:09,368 --> 01:16:14,300
If I don't get approved, we're 
still getting these houses. 
 

1421
01:16:14,308 --> 01:16:19,430
I don't care what happens. 
I'll do whatever it takes. 
 

1422
01:16:19,438 --> 01:16:22,103
Chris is grabbing his tits right
now. 
 

1423
01:16:22,111 --> 01:16:28,755
And that's when I was imagining 
it going She'll do whatever it 


1424
01:16:28,763 --> 01:16:31,492
takes. 
She'll show off that shoulder. 


1425
01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:36,144
She'll let her ankle and her 
knee dance in front of a man for

1426
01:16:36,144 --> 01:16:38,552

 some money. 
She'll walk the streets. 
 

1427
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,096
She will sell smack to the 
children on the playground. 
 

1428
01:16:42,104 --> 01:16:46,540
But she won't get a job. 
But she will sell her body. 
 

1429
01:16:46,548 --> 01:16:49,885
She will sell her drugs. 
She will offer her children to 


1430
01:16:49,893 --> 01:16:54,259
sell their bodies and drugs. 
But she will not get a job to 
 

1431
01:16:54,267 --> 01:16:56,980
make this happen. 
But she'll do whatever it takes.

1432
01:16:56,980 --> 01:16:58,600

 
I'll do whatever it takes, but 

1433
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:59,840
not work. 
 
Except for work. 

1434
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:06,440
Yeah, and Mona says. 
 
And Robyn ellipsis, you are 

1435
01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:09,200
approved. 
 
Kody goes for real. 

1436
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,360
This. 
 
For real. 

1437
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,320
For real. 
 
Kody's in shock, Robyn says. 

1438
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,852
I'm framing this piece of paper.

 

1439
01:17:17,860 --> 01:17:22,485
I want to see that framed piece 
of paper right now in your 
 

1440
01:17:22,493 --> 01:17:24,696
current home you dumb bitch. 
You dumb bitch. 
 

1441
01:17:24,704 --> 01:17:28,707
She's like, oh I know it's in 
tote #732 in Kody's second 
 

1442
01:17:28,715 --> 01:17:31,846
garage. 
Like, Oh my God, she's a 
 

1443
01:17:31,854 --> 01:17:34,256
hoarder. 
She's a hoarder. 
 

1444
01:17:34,264 --> 01:17:38,038
So this is, she has so many 
pieces of paper framed all from 

1445
01:17:38,038 --> 01:17:41,040
 like debt relief and people 
doing things for her. 
 

1446
01:17:41,048 --> 01:17:43,810
This is such a special moment 
for me. 
 

1447
01:17:43,818 --> 01:17:45,930
It's my first piece of chewing 
gum. 
 

1448
01:17:45,938 --> 01:17:50,189
It's when I avoided having to be
a prostitute to pay for my. 
 

1449
01:17:50,197 --> 01:17:53,470
Home. 
Oh my gosh. 
 

1450
01:17:53,478 --> 01:17:55,336
Oh. 
My God. 
 

1451
01:17:55,344 --> 01:17:59,459
Oh, this woman. 
She's for sure that mom that has

1452
01:17:59,459 --> 01:18:02,980

 her children's baby teeth in a
jar somewhere. 
 

1453
01:18:02,988 --> 01:18:05,840
For real. 
For real. 
 

1454
01:18:05,848 --> 01:18:09,080
For real. 
Yes, for real, Kody. 
 

1455
01:18:09,088 --> 01:18:11,587
My God. 
And then they show salt chewing 

1456
01:18:11,587 --> 01:18:17,080
 on a sharpie. 
I missed fall chewing on a 
 

1457
01:18:17,088 --> 01:18:18,000
sharpie. 
I'm like. 
 

1458
01:18:18,008 --> 01:18:21,116
Why do they show these? 
Things they're like these 
 

1459
01:18:21,124 --> 01:18:22,600
parents aren't neglectful. 
Here's. 
 

1460
01:18:22,608 --> 01:18:23,720
A. 
Here's an. 
 

1461
01:18:23,728 --> 01:18:26,740
Inventor baby chewing. 
They did a close up of him 
 

1462
01:18:26,748 --> 01:18:29,592
chewing on the end of a sharpie 
like a closed sharpie. 
 

1463
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:30,538
Oh. 
God. 
 

1464
01:18:30,546 --> 01:18:33,646
But it's like, what, you doing 
them dirty? 
 

1465
01:18:33,654 --> 01:18:36,774
Like every parent knows that 
their kids aren't. 
 

1466
01:18:36,782 --> 01:18:39,556
Yeah, chewing on dumb shit every
now and then. 
 

1467
01:18:39,564 --> 01:18:42,954
But why are you zoning in on 
that right now during this 
 

1468
01:18:42,962 --> 01:18:44,684
scene? 
Like, my goodness. 
 

1469
01:18:44,692 --> 01:18:49,940
They just said to show Robyn is 
mom of the year. 
 

1470
01:18:49,948 --> 01:18:53,680
Playing with that dangling 
necklace, chewing on A sharp 
 

1471
01:18:53,688 --> 01:18:57,440
Chewing on a sharp B. 
Thank you, I can see I'm having 

1472
01:18:57,440 --> 01:19:00,765
 a positive effect on you. 
We've got a lot of marbles in 
 

1473
01:19:00,773 --> 01:19:04,920
our mouth right this episode. 
Mona tells everyone that they 
 

1474
01:19:04,928 --> 01:19:09,381
can start construction in five 
weeks if they get all of their 


1475
01:19:09,389 --> 01:19:13,600
contracts in a row and make all 
of their construction 
 

1476
01:19:13,608 --> 01:19:16,720
selections. 
She says something along the 
 

1477
01:19:16,728 --> 01:19:20,305
lines of she well, she summoned 
the Holy Spirit. 
 

1478
01:19:20,313 --> 01:19:23,080
She she mentioned you, Kimber. 
She. 
 

1479
01:19:23,088 --> 01:19:27,158
Sure did. 
And she said I'm going to have 


1480
01:19:27,166 --> 01:19:31,416
Kimber show up at your home. 
She says I hope that I put the 


1481
01:19:31,424 --> 01:19:36,300
fear of God in them. 
Yes, hopefully they still need 


1482
01:19:36,308 --> 01:19:39,934
the pre approval come closing. 
Yes. 
 

1483
01:19:39,942 --> 01:19:42,166
That's what they all have 
forgotten. 
 

1484
01:19:42,174 --> 01:19:45,960
Here, right, so they got it's 
like Abby Lee Miller always 
 

1485
01:19:45,968 --> 01:19:50,055
says, it's one thing to get to 
the top, it's another thing to 


1486
01:19:50,063 --> 01:19:53,880
stay at the top so. 
Like, don't get kicked in the 
 

1487
01:19:53,888 --> 01:19:54,720
teeth, ladies. 
So. 
 

1488
01:19:54,728 --> 01:19:58,344
It's one thing to get your 
credit score up to 600 and get a

1489
01:19:58,344 --> 01:20:00,866

 pre approval letter. 
It's another to maintain your 
 

1490
01:20:00,874 --> 01:20:04,354
600 credit score and get an 
approval when the loan is 
 

1491
01:20:04,362 --> 01:20:07,470
closing. 
So Christine, stop missing your 

1492
01:20:07,470 --> 01:20:10,818
 water bills. 
Yeah, and Robyn get to walk in 


1493
01:20:10,826 --> 01:20:12,810
those streets. 
Get to St. 
 

1494
01:20:12,818 --> 01:20:17,600
Walk in you dumb whore. 
You dumb hussy, you hooker. 
 

1495
01:20:17,608 --> 01:20:21,130
Oh, sorry, hookers out there. 
I don't mean to disparage. 
 

1496
01:20:21,138 --> 01:20:22,880
I don't want to compare you to 
Robyn Brown. 
 

1497
01:20:22,888 --> 01:20:27,330
I believe they call themselves 
sex workers now, so Robyn's on a

1498
01:20:27,330 --> 01:20:29,503

 different level. 
We can call her a hooker. 
 

1499
01:20:29,511 --> 01:20:31,127
We. 
Can call Robyn a hooker? 
 

1500
01:20:31,135 --> 01:20:32,750
Yes. 
Kody asks. 
 

1501
01:20:32,758 --> 01:20:37,109
Can we be in by Christmas? 
And Mona says, believe me, if he

1502
01:20:37,109 --> 01:20:40,834

 can do it, he will. 
Yeah, the builder would like 
 

1503
01:20:40,842 --> 01:20:43,380
that. 
Yeah, well, he wants his money. 

1504
01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:44,080
 
Yeah, honey. 

1505
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,920
Yeah, he'll try to build it. 
 
If it means that the loan 

1506
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,600
clears, he'll do his best. 
 
I don't think he'll be taking 

1507
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:58,200
any blowies from old cold sore 

over there, but you know, maybe.

1508
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,960
Blowies from old cold sore to 
 
pay for it, Yes. 

1509
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,040
Oh, that's a good one. 
 
Blowies from old cold sore. 

1510
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,160
You really topped yourself. 
 
Although it really was Kody in 

1511
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,000
this episode that had the cold 

sore healing. 

1512
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,200
But it was a gift from Robyn. 
 
Yeah. 

1513
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,360
And this coming from the Holy 
 
Spirit. 

1514
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,640
I mean, it's all she could 
 
afford to give him, so he might 

1515
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,760
as well take. 
 
It right she's like honey, you 

1516
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,840
know I can't work, but I can 
 
give you a cold sore. 

1517
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,480
Give me some herp. 
 
On your lerp. 

1518
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,600
Oh, God, now we're going to cut 
 to the whole family. 

1519
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,480
We're going to have better Times

 Now, Kimber. 

1520
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:38,520
Better times. 
 
Sorry, the family is going to go

1521
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,200
visit the cul-de-sac because 
 
once again, we've got another 

1522
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,960
benchmark met. 
 
This is really important to the 

1523
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,760
kids. 
 
Oh yeah, that they got pre 

1524
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,640
approval. 
 
So now they're going to drag 

1525
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,800
them all to the development to 

go look at a model home, which 

1526
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,400
is actually cute as a child. 
 
I would love to go see a model 

1527
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,120
home. 
 
Well. 

1528
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,080
What are you talking about? 
 
To have the privilege of seeing 

1529
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,120
OK. 
 
Meri, let's just say. 

1530
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,120
I just mean, if my parents were 
 doing this and we were put in 

1531
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,280
the minivan and driven to a 
 
place and told leave the snow 

1532
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,812
kites in the car and get outside

 and go into this thing, this 

1533
01:22:19,812 --> 01:22:21,798
is what we're going to build 
you. 
 

1534
01:22:21,806 --> 01:22:24,504
I'd be like, that's cool. 
I would like it. 
 

1535
01:22:24,512 --> 01:22:27,375
Kody says that he thought he 
that they should have sedated 
 

1536
01:22:27,383 --> 01:22:31,085
all the children before they got
there so that they didn't break 

1537
01:22:31,085 --> 01:22:33,526
 anything, and I can relate. 
Yeah, yeah. 
 

1538
01:22:33,534 --> 01:22:36,752
There are times that I wish I 
could sedate my children. 
 

1539
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:41,110
But and there's like 437 of 
them, so it's like, oh thing. 
 

1540
01:22:41,118 --> 01:22:43,886
God, I can't even imagine. 
No. 
 

1541
01:22:43,894 --> 01:22:46,268
It's like a school trip, but 
it's just them going to look at 

1542
01:22:46,268 --> 01:22:49,103
 their model home. 
They go to the old kids on the 


1543
01:22:49,111 --> 01:22:50,664
couch. 
The old kids. 
 

1544
01:22:50,672 --> 01:22:53,741
The oldest kids, yeah. 
Yep, they show them on the couch

1545
01:22:53,741 --> 01:22:57,040

 and all of their back and 
forth of if they think that this

1546
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,875
is 
 real or not and if they 
believe that this is going to 

1547
01:22:59,875 --> 01:23:02,080
happen or 
 not. 
And they're hamming in awe and 


1548
01:23:02,088 --> 01:23:04,260
like the whole family does all 
the time. 
 

1549
01:23:04,268 --> 01:23:07,944
Yeah, and how things often don't
work out for them, but they 
 

1550
01:23:07,952 --> 01:23:11,230
think this one will. 
The vibe overall is, you know 
 

1551
01:23:11,238 --> 01:23:15,640
what, I can see this shit storm 
coming together into a ticky 
 

1552
01:23:15,648 --> 01:23:18,300
tacky build. 
A great home for us in a 
 

1553
01:23:18,308 --> 01:23:20,880
development in Las Vegas. 
You know, right? 
 

1554
01:23:20,888 --> 01:23:23,020
Dream big, dream high, dream 
wide. 
 

1555
01:23:23,028 --> 01:23:26,520
Those dung beetles are rolling 
the dung together for once and 


1556
01:23:26,528 --> 01:23:29,624
this shit storm or. 
Whatever we saw that, we heard 


1557
01:23:29,632 --> 01:23:31,660
it in the filming. 
Cicadas. 
 

1558
01:23:31,668 --> 01:23:33,562
Cicadas. 
Cicadas, Thank you. 
 

1559
01:23:33,570 --> 01:23:38,680
There was they were showing an 
outside shot and it was like, 
 

1560
01:23:38,688 --> 01:23:41,820
like, Oh my God. 
Yeah. 
 

1561
01:23:41,828 --> 01:23:44,907
Minnesota in July. 
Oh my gosh. 
 

1562
01:23:44,915 --> 01:23:48,296
Now all the family arrives, they
all get out of all their 
 

1563
01:23:48,304 --> 01:23:50,956
vehicles, they're all holding 
the ropes so no one gets lost on

1564
01:23:50,956 --> 01:23:54,000

 the way into the model home. 
And they're all looking around 


1565
01:23:54,008 --> 01:23:56,320
and the kids have enthusiasm. 
They're excited. 
 

1566
01:23:56,328 --> 01:23:59,160
They're, you know, looking in 
rooms. 
 

1567
01:23:59,168 --> 01:24:04,882
They show Little Truly little 
gangly tall Truly with her wispy

1568
01:24:04,882 --> 01:24:08,061

 little blonde hairs. 
She's so cute. 
 

1569
01:24:08,069 --> 01:24:10,717
Little truly scrumptious, 
looking like she's somehow 
 

1570
01:24:10,725 --> 01:24:13,440
elderly and a small child at the
same time. 
 

1571
01:24:13,448 --> 01:24:15,358
Right, like. 
She should be in a nursing home.

1572
01:24:15,358 --> 01:24:16,520

 
They put her in such like 

1573
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:21,600
overtly feminine girly little 
 
clothes, probably because of the

1574
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,840
lack of hair, that it's like, 
 
OK, Yep, this is a little girl. 

1575
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,240
She literally looks like she's 

wearing a little old lady outfit

1576
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,040
like. 
 
Old. 

1577
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,520
Women wear when they're like, 
 
got up and got my coffee. 

1578
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,320
I'm going to do my crossword 
 
this morning. 

1579
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,589
But I immediately just was like,

 Oh my gosh, I want to like 

1580
01:24:36,589 --> 01:24:40,280
hold her and also like. 
 
She's very hot, yeah. 

1581
01:24:40,440 --> 01:24:43,680
Get out of here with that. 
 
Every time that I see truly I'm 

1582
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,880
just like, Oh my God, stop with 
 the cuteness because I can't 

1583
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,960
with that little bald fluffy 
 
head. 

1584
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:50,640
Yeah. 
 
Truly scrumptious. 

1585
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,000
Anyway. 
 
When the family goes outside, 

1586
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,440
Kody tells all the moms to go 
 
where their homes will be on 

1587
01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:58,320
their properties. 
 
Go to your spots. 

1588
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,280
Go to your spots. 
 
Go to your spots. 

1589
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,720
And then the kids follow them. 

At some point one of them says, 

1590
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,164
I have an extra child over here.

 

1591
01:25:06,172 --> 01:25:10,058
Did you see who that was? 
Maybe one of Robyn's girls or. 


1592
01:25:10,066 --> 01:25:14,266
Yeah, I love how one of one of 
the four wives had an extra 
 

1593
01:25:14,274 --> 01:25:16,181
child with her and was making a 
joke about it. 
 

1594
01:25:16,189 --> 01:25:17,126
It doesn't even. 
Matter. 
 

1595
01:25:17,134 --> 01:25:20,915
I was more distracted by the 
fact that Kody, in a voiceover 


1596
01:25:20,923 --> 01:25:23,720
was saying they've really bought
into it here. 
 

1597
01:25:23,728 --> 01:25:26,000
Yeah. 
And then he says. 
 

1598
01:25:26,008 --> 01:25:28,749
I feel like yelling Hallelujah. 
Yes, what a relief. 
 

1599
01:25:28,757 --> 01:25:32,300
What a blessing. 
I feel like yelling Hallelujah 


1600
01:25:32,308 --> 01:25:36,472
and then after the episode 
wrapped I was singing 
 

1601
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:41,120
Hallelujah. 
I mean. 
 

1602
01:25:41,128 --> 01:25:43,822
On repeat. 
They ended it at the cul-de-sac 

1603
01:25:43,822 --> 01:25:45,640
 yet again with all the 
children. 

1604
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:49,760
With all the children. 
 
End of Season 3. 

1605
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:55,200
End of Season 4. 
 
Beginning of Season 5. 

1606
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,760
Yes, yes. 
 
All the children in the. 

1607
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,680
Will they be in their homes by 

Christmas? 

1608
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,560
Will they, won't they? 
 
Will they? 

1609
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,440
Won't they? 
 
Well, if Kimber is the Holy 

1610
01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:06,680
Spirit has anything to do with 

it, they will not. 

1611
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,960
Nope, all that I have come to 
 
the conclusion of at the end of 

1612
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,720
this episode is that you and I 

are the ones that are probably 

1613
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,560
going to hell all the judging. 

No, no. 

1614
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,480
I'm fine. 
 
It's good company, darlin. 

1615
01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:24,120
It's good company. 
 
You'd rather be in hell with you

1616
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,360
than in heaven with Kody Brown, 
 Probably. 

1617
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,080
Leon will be there being like 
 
you're wrong and terrible. 

1618
01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:32,320
Oh God, oh God. 
 
Be out of here. 

1619
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:37,680
The judgement, the cruelty. 
 
We've come to the point of our 

1620
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:45,280
episode where we have to, by 
 
law, say who is our mustard seed

1621
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,880
and who is our shit stain? 
 
I because you are a woman and 

1622
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,040
because I am a traditionalist 
 
and I have a penis. 

1623
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,920
You're going to go first. 
 
But I'm a big Kody Brown fan, so

1624
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:02,720
I'm going to go first with my 
 
Mustard Seed and my Mustard Seed

1625
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,320
this week. 
 
I wasn't prepared to go first. 

1626
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,760
I was actually going to. 
 
Give it to you. 

1627
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,680
I know you were, that's why I 
 
did that to. 

1628
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,560
Cruel world. 
 
It's a cruel world. 

1629
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,240
Oh gosh, who's my mustard? 
 
Seed men, you guys just get the 

1630
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,400
shit out of the stick all the 
 
time. 

1631
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,160
I know, I know, it's true. 
 
It's true. 

1632
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,200
I think I'm going to give my 
 
mustard seed this episode to 1 

1633
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,520
Meri Brown. 
 
Meri Brown has been through the 

1634
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,240
wringer. 
 
She has been put through the 

1635
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,120
wringer again and she went 
 
through that wringer 1/3 time 

1636
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,040
and then the Holy Spirit showed 
 up and shoved itself in her 

1637
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,480
nostril and put her through the 
 wringer 1/4 time. 

1638
01:27:37,480 --> 01:27:40,280
Checked out her ovaries. 
 
Said there's nothing happening 

1639
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:45,360
in here. 
 
This vagina is dry and Meri was 

1640
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,760
not treated well by her child. 

Meri was not treated well by her

1641
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,160
husband. 
 
This is a theme and I feel bad 

1642
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,800
for one Meri Brown, so I'm 
 
giving her my mustard seed. 

1643
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:56,960
Not because she did anything 
 
positive. 

1644
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,640
Did she do anything positive 
 
this episode? 

1645
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,240
She didn't talk much. 
 
I was going to say all she had 

1646
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:06,040
to do was kind of defend herself

 and whatever. 

1647
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:09,400
So yeah, I'm going to give my 
 
mustard seed to Meri because she

1648
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,360
was maybe the least idiotic. 
 
Let's go with that. 

1649
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,520
Yeah. 
 
Who's your mustard seed, 

1650
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,360
darling? 
 
This is a tough one for me 

1651
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:22,640
because everybody did some shit 
 to piss me off, which they 

1652
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,517
always do, but I feel like this 
 one was particularly like, Oh 

1653
01:28:26,517 --> 01:28:34,671
my God, my mustard seed is going
to 
 Maddie for not giving into 

1654
01:28:34,671 --> 01:28:41,440
the bullshit and being kind of a

 hard ass when it came to the 

1655
01:28:41,440 --> 01:28:45,800
interview, 'cause it was very 
 
apparent that they were trying 

1656
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,680
to get emotion and milk an 
 
interview out of Maddie. 

1657
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:55,360
And they did do a cute scene 
 
with Maddie and her friends and 

1658
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,480
she kept it clean. 
 
She kept it cute. 

1659
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:02,080
And I probably would have at 
 
that age, been wearing matching 

1660
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:06,044
T-shirts with my girls, too, and

 strutting stuff down the 

1661
01:29:06,044 --> 01:29:10,474
street, you know, being all cute
and 
 then playing hard ass in 

1662
01:29:10,474 --> 01:29:15,080
the confessional situation. 
 
So I'm going to give her my 

1663
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,320
mustard seed because I think 
 
that they tried to play her 

1664
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,040
dirty and she didn't let them. 

Yeah. 

1665
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,560
I agree with that. 
 
Well once again I am the man. 

1666
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,280
I have a penis so I should go 
 
first. 

1667
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,080
OK, fair enough. 
 
And I'm going to give my shit 

1668
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:32,360
stain to 1 Miss Robyn Brown, 
 
Robyn Sullivan, Robyn Jessup, 

1669
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,280
Robyn. 
 
Whatever else her last name 

1670
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:40,360
could be on her credit report. 

Oh Robyn, where do I even start?

1671
01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:47,440
The lies, the fraud, the 
 
laziness, the mental incapacity,

1672
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,840
everything about it. 
 
Everything about her. 

1673
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:57,400
This episode was so gross to me,

 particularly the lying. 

1674
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,840
Obviously, lying about the past 
 is a broad. 

1675
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,680
Stroke Egregious. 
 
Just egregious. 

1676
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:06,440
It's it is terrible, but then 
 
what gets me even more is then 

1677
01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:09,800
the current day. 
 
Oh, I don't want this to affect 

1678
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:13,120
my family, the things that 
 
happened to me in the past. 

1679
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:18,767
It's like your past, your life, 
 the life hasn't just happened 

1680
01:30:18,767 --> 01:30:21,040
to you, Robyn. 
 
And there's something about 

1681
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,920
people that approach life where 
 everything is just life 

1682
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,960
happening to them, where they 
 
don't, they don't take any 

1683
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,920
ownership for anything. 
 
And life does throw curveballs 

1684
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,440
to us. 
 
There are things that are out of

1685
01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:33,800
our control, but that's not 
 
everything. 

1686
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,320
And she makes it sound like it's

 everything and it's not. 

1687
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:41,800
And her past choices she's 
 
having ramifications for and she

1688
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,960
wants to make it sound like she 
 doesn't want it to affect the 

1689
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,240
family. 
 
I feel like as as a way to 

1690
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,920
elicit them to do more for her 

and to solve her problems for 

1691
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,480
her. 
 
Yeah, and it's ridiculous. 

1692
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,560
Like leave it down to two weeks,

 one week, whatever. 

1693
01:30:55,560 --> 01:31:01,240
Like you had the capability to 

do way more before all of this. 

1694
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,600
You could have been going to 
 
your sister wives and saying, 

1695
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:09,240
hey, can you guys help me with 

like Saul or whoever, and I need

1696
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,200
to go and take care of some 
 
things so that we can get this 

1697
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,600
done. 
 
No, she obviously didn't do 

1698
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,080
that. 
 
She waited until somebody came 

1699
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:18,160
to her and said, no, you need to

 handle this situation. 

1700
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:23,840
I just think that she was trying

 to sell a bill of lies this 

1701
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:29,640
entire episode. 
 
The lack of tears shows the 

1702
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:33,920
level of manipulation because 
 
usually the tears would be 

1703
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:38,520
flowing, flowing, flowing. 
 
It's so phony and there's 

1704
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:43,440
something gross going on. 
 
And I think that she manipulated

1705
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:45,000
this family into bringing her 
 
in. 

1706
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:50,680
And then I also think like I'm 

piggybacking on your shit stand 

1707
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:55,640
what I would have said because 

she brings her baby sister in 

1708
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:02,240
and I feel like it's a ploy to 

get more money for her family. 

1709
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,840
I feel like there's something 
 
weird about her all of a sudden 

1710
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,480
deciding to move her baby sister

 in with them if they get the 

1711
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:12,240
homes and trying to introduce 
 
her as a new character and then 

1712
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,120
it doesn't go anywhere. 
 
I think it was like a ploy 

1713
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:21,311
because this baby sister has to 
 be like over 18 so they 

1714
01:32:21,311 --> 01:32:24,096
probably know that they would 
have had to 
 pay her if she 

1715
01:32:24,096 --> 01:32:27,480
became a regular on the show. 
 
I feel like there was something 

1716
01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:30,000
weird going on there as well. 
 
There's something with it 

1717
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,520
because although I'm not sure if

 we see Tara lease again in the

1718
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:37,560
future, we do see other Robyn 
 
family members move into her 

1719
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,222
home and care for her children. 
 

1720
01:32:39,230 --> 01:32:43,790
Now, they're not stars of the 
show, but there is an element of

1721
01:32:43,790 --> 01:32:48,578

 Robyn ringing in her family 
for the payroll for to raise her

1722
01:32:48,578 --> 01:32:50,780

 children. 
Because she's doing what? 
 

1723
01:32:50,788 --> 01:32:54,032
What is Robyn doing? 
She can't raise her own kids. 
 

1724
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:54,995
I don't get it. 
I. 
 

1725
01:32:55,003 --> 01:32:56,686
Don't want to say raise, that 
sounds dramatic. 
 

1726
01:32:56,694 --> 01:32:59,416
I'm making it sound dramatic. 
Not everyone who has a nanny 
 

1727
01:32:59,424 --> 01:33:02,020
isn't raising their children. 
I don't want to broad brush 
 

1728
01:33:02,028 --> 01:33:04,570
stroke that. 
But like this bitch doesn't have

1729
01:33:04,570 --> 01:33:07,395

 a job. 
This bitch is designing jewelry 

1730
01:33:07,395 --> 01:33:10,874
 on graph paper and it's doodles
that someone else is actually 
 

1731
01:33:10,882 --> 01:33:12,629
making. 
She's not even. 
 

1732
01:33:12,637 --> 01:33:16,224
She's a shit stain. 
Yeah, she's a shit stain. 
 

1733
01:33:16,232 --> 01:33:19,932
Now, according to the rules of 
science and the laws of this 
 

1734
01:33:19,940 --> 01:33:22,735
government, you are not allowed 
to have the same shit stain as 


1735
01:33:22,743 --> 01:33:24,721
me. 
I just had to piggyback and say 

1736
01:33:24,721 --> 01:33:27,992
 my reasons for why I would have
shown my shit stain. 
 

1737
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,707
Well, Tara, Lease, Tara Lise, I 
don't think we're going to see 


1738
01:33:31,715 --> 01:33:34,050
her again, unfortunately. 
Well, Tara Lise is getting my 
 

1739
01:33:34,058 --> 01:33:36,055
real shit. 
I'm just kidding. 
 

1740
01:33:36,063 --> 01:33:39,080
That bench, that bench for like 
half a second. 
 

1741
01:33:39,088 --> 01:33:42,970
She looked at me wrong through 
the TV and I didn't like it. 
 

1742
01:33:42,978 --> 01:33:44,876
Yes, yes. 
I'm going to go with Leon. 
 

1743
01:33:44,884 --> 01:33:48,980
I was going to say Leon if. 
Not Leon on their high. 
 

1744
01:33:48,988 --> 01:33:55,335
Horse riding extra high because 
of the Honor Society. 
 

1745
01:33:55,343 --> 01:34:02,195
Whatever, Nerd nerd loser to 
have a swirling in a toilet 
 

1746
01:34:02,203 --> 01:34:02,903
nerd. 
Yes. 
 

1747
01:34:02,911 --> 01:34:05,628
Throw that nerd in the trash 
can, yeah? 
 

1748
01:34:05,636 --> 01:34:09,360
No St. smarts, all you got is 
book smarts. 
 

1749
01:34:09,368 --> 01:34:14,425
It's coming from someone who 
also is nerd. 
 

1750
01:34:14,433 --> 01:34:18,498
Not Honor Society, but honor 
roll Chris. 
 

1751
01:34:18,506 --> 01:34:21,943
Definitely not the same thing. 
Well. 
 

1752
01:34:21,951 --> 01:34:25,250
I think Honor Roll's the Walmart
version of the honor side. 
 

1753
01:34:25,258 --> 01:34:27,508
We'll go with that. 
I'm fine taking. 
 

1754
01:34:27,516 --> 01:34:30,218
Leon is looking at you like this
nose judgement. 
 

1755
01:34:30,226 --> 01:34:35,316
Well, I'm going to kick Leon in 
the teeth right now because I 
 

1756
01:34:35,324 --> 01:34:39,223
got to tell you, Leon, how dare 
you talk to your mother that 
 

1757
01:34:39,231 --> 01:34:41,126
way. 
How very dare you, you 
 

1758
01:34:41,134 --> 01:34:46,520
ungrateful brat. 
I just couldn't believe the 
 

1759
01:34:46,528 --> 01:34:51,040
hatred that was coming from 
Leon's face. 
 

1760
01:34:51,048 --> 01:34:54,520
Yeah. 
Those facial expressions were 
 

1761
01:34:54,528 --> 01:34:59,858
that of pure anger. 
I am sure that I spoke to my 
 

1762
01:34:59,866 --> 01:35:04,740
mother in horrible ways at that 
age as well, and in hindsight, I

1763
01:35:04,740 --> 01:35:08,744

 very much regret it. 
And I have, as an adult, told my

1764
01:35:08,744 --> 01:35:11,100

 mother so. 
I have. 
 

1765
01:35:11,108 --> 01:35:12,200
I have. 
You don't. 
 

1766
01:35:12,208 --> 01:35:14,020
Get brownie points for 
apologizing about being no. 
 

1767
01:35:14,028 --> 01:35:18,530
But I have, I've been like mom, 
like, you know, now that I know 

1768
01:35:18,530 --> 01:35:22,744
 what you were going through, 
please forgive me. 
 

1769
01:35:22,752 --> 01:35:26,625
Sob story OK yeah, so Leon was a
bitch. 
 

1770
01:35:26,633 --> 01:35:31,184
It pisses me off that they just 
keep on keeping on with this 
 

1771
01:35:31,192 --> 01:35:35,194
narrative for Meri and 
everyone's just so insensitive 


1772
01:35:35,202 --> 01:35:41,242
and it's like Leon as an only 
child should be super in tuned 


1773
01:35:41,250 --> 01:35:46,257
to their mother. 
And even my little kids when 
 

1774
01:35:46,265 --> 01:35:52,027
they know I'm upset or like have
seen me upset will ask me if I'm

1775
01:35:52,027 --> 01:35:57,625

 OK. 
So to have such anger and such a

1776
01:35:57,625 --> 01:36:02,859

 sensitive subject thrown in 
your face by your own child, it 

1777
01:36:02,859 --> 01:36:06,915
just, 
 I don't know, something 
about it just really made me mad

1778
01:36:06,915 --> 01:36:12,975
and I 
 didn't like it at all. 
And I hope, I hope that Leon has

1779
01:36:12,975 --> 01:36:16,990

 apologized to Meri like I 
apologize to my mother for 
 

1780
01:36:16,998 --> 01:36:19,979
telling her she was a dumb 
bitch, probably at some point. 


1781
01:36:19,987 --> 01:36:22,464
The Holy Spirit is an example to
follow. 
 

1782
01:36:22,472 --> 01:36:28,355
Admit your wrongdoings, Leon. 
Tell your mother you're sorry. 


1783
01:36:28,363 --> 01:36:32,275
Apologize to Meri. 
Or go to the dockside. 
 

1784
01:36:32,283 --> 01:36:36,975
You know, and another element of
the Leon story is whatever's 
 

1785
01:36:36,983 --> 01:36:42,120
going on with their dead name at
this time. 
 

1786
01:36:42,128 --> 01:36:46,260
True. 
You know, Leon is clearly 
 

1787
01:36:46,268 --> 01:36:51,515
struggling with other things and
trying to figure themselves out 

1788
01:36:51,515 --> 01:36:56,760
 in a world that is surrounded 
by polygamy and religious dogma 

1789
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,435
and 
 whatnotness. 
And I don't think it's, you 
 

1790
01:37:00,443 --> 01:37:04,005
know, I went off for it up as an
excuse, but I think it is some, 

1791
01:37:04,005 --> 01:37:06,060
 it's a part of the piece of the
puzzle. 
 

1792
01:37:06,068 --> 01:37:09,200
Right. 
Like they're doubling down South

1793
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,712

 hard on everything and it's 
like overcompensating. 
 

1794
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:16,680
It's like Uber conservative 
senators that are like, you 
 

1795
01:37:16,688 --> 01:37:18,930
know, in the bathroom getting 
blowjobs from the. 
 

1796
01:37:18,938 --> 01:37:20,770
Same day like finding glory 
holes. 
 

1797
01:37:20,778 --> 01:37:23,740
Yeah, train stations. 
And they're like the loudest 
 

1798
01:37:23,748 --> 01:37:25,860
protesters. 
It's just what it is. 
 

1799
01:37:25,868 --> 01:37:29,880
And people that are dealing with
a lot, you know, express 
 

1800
01:37:29,888 --> 01:37:31,978
themselves in some not great 
ways. 
 

1801
01:37:31,986 --> 01:37:36,320
I can see that and it sucks that
the person that's probably 
 

1802
01:37:36,328 --> 01:37:38,694
closest to them is taking the 
heat. 
 

1803
01:37:38,702 --> 01:37:43,224
Yeah, yeah. 
And I guess sometimes my biggest

1804
01:37:43,224 --> 01:37:49,515

 problem with this show when 
they're talking to people like 


1805
01:37:49,523 --> 01:37:55,380
and giving such like hard like 
interviews where it's like 
 

1806
01:37:55,388 --> 01:37:57,704
aggressive and maybe catches 
someone off guard. 
 

1807
01:37:57,712 --> 01:38:01,820
What's weird about that to me is
like it feels like they don't 
 

1808
01:38:01,828 --> 01:38:04,668
talk about it off camera and 
that it's being suppressed. 
 

1809
01:38:04,676 --> 01:38:07,716
And all of a sudden it comes out
because of the questions that 
 

1810
01:38:07,724 --> 01:38:11,318
the producers are asking. 
But also it makes me wonder what

1811
01:38:11,318 --> 01:38:13,652

 they talk to each other like 
behind the scenes too. 
 

1812
01:38:13,660 --> 01:38:15,944
So it's like it could go both 
ways, right? 
 

1813
01:38:15,952 --> 01:38:19,067
Like this behavior is being 
brought out because of the 
 

1814
01:38:19,075 --> 01:38:22,231
interviews. 
Or do you talk worse to each 
 

1815
01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:25,588
other behind the scenes? 
Like, I don't know. 
 

1816
01:38:25,596 --> 01:38:30,442
I guess based on Christine's 
book and some other tidbits, I 


1817
01:38:30,450 --> 01:38:33,720
think in general they don't talk
about. 
 

1818
01:38:33,728 --> 01:38:36,288
Yeah. 
And so when it's brought up on 


1819
01:38:36,296 --> 01:38:39,367
camera, then it they fester and 
it's around and it's whatever 
 

1820
01:38:39,375 --> 01:38:40,892
and. 
It's heated. 
 

1821
01:38:40,900 --> 01:38:44,932
Because, you know, flashback to 
season 1 when Christine left the

1822
01:38:44,932 --> 01:38:47,960

 stage when they were doing 
their, you know, whatever it's 


1823
01:38:47,968 --> 01:38:50,405
called, their tell all, their 
reunion, their whatever they 
 

1824
01:38:50,413 --> 01:38:54,346
call it on this show. 
And they didn't film for like 3 

1825
01:38:54,346 --> 01:38:56,712
 or 4 days because Christine was
so pissed. 
 

1826
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,172
And then they came back and like
in through editing, made it look

1827
01:38:59,172 --> 01:39:01,900

 like she just left for a 
little while and then came back.

1828
01:39:01,900 --> 01:39:03,360

 
So they obviously have some 

1829
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,280
things that they don't 
 
communicate well about. 

1830
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,840
But I think that the kids 
 
probably talk to their parents 

1831
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,120
worse off camera than they do on

 camera. 

1832
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,240
I think that that maybe is like 
 a parent thing that they don't 

1833
01:39:15,480 --> 01:39:18,680
talk enough because their 
 
households are more separate 

1834
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,680
than they would lead us to 
 
believe. 

1835
01:39:21,440 --> 01:39:25,720
But I think the kids probably 
 
with their parents would maybe 

1836
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,200
talk more off camera cuz I can 

tell from the kids interview is 

1837
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,840
that they're holding back. 
 
Yeah, most of the time. 

1838
01:39:32,440 --> 01:39:36,440
So I think that Leon probably 
 
talks to Meri like that 

1839
01:39:36,440 --> 01:39:40,760
frequently off camera. 
 
And I think Kody does the whole 

1840
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,720
like well I agree with Leon 
 
thing regularly. 

1841
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,400
Yeah, Kody likes to pit people 

against each other. 

1842
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,480
Yes, if. 
 
Anyone's going to be adversarial

1843
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:50,720
against Meri, Kody's going to 
 
take their side. 

1844
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:54,200
Yeah. 
 
So while I can have empathy for 

1845
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:57,960
Leon's position and knowing what

 they've been through in the 

1846
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:00,840
struggles that they're mentally 
 going through at this time and 

1847
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,440
the gymnastics that they're 
 
going through, I also think that

1848
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:06,640
it still sucks that you would 
 
take it out on someone who 

1849
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:10,520
obviously loves you so much. 
 
With the ushering in of Season 

1850
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,680
5, the Celestial season is what 
 I'm going to call it. 

1851
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,080
We'll see if that happens. 
 
Let's see if I remember that 

1852
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,000
now. 
 
On Spotify, we're going to offer

1853
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,640
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1854
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:26,333
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1855
01:40:26,333 --> 01:40:29,480
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1856
01:40:29,480 --> 01:40:33,560
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1857
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:35,440
Yes, yes, yes. 
 
So this. 

1858
01:40:35,440 --> 01:40:39,880
Is Jesus Christ telling you that

 you can now? 

1859
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,800
When we appreciate the support 

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1860
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:46,160
I'm tired of listening to ADS or

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1861
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,000
and you're like, I just can't 
 
control myself. 

1862
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,440
You're like Kimber when it comes

 to the dolphins. 

1863
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:52,860
You just can't control yourself.

 

1864
01:40:52,868 --> 01:40:55,452
I mean, the dolphins can't 
control themselves when it comes

1865
01:40:55,452 --> 01:40:56,470

 to me. 
Let's be. 
 

1866
01:40:56,478 --> 01:40:59,540
Real here, this is it. 
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1867
01:40:59,548 --> 01:41:01,147
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1868
01:41:01,155 --> 01:41:04,680
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01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,480

 
Thumbs up, thumbs up all around.

1870
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:10,440
Our keep suit moment this week 

comes to us from Lisa. 

1871
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,671
Lisa left a comment on a recent 
 episode on Patreon and Lisa 

1872
01:41:14,671 --> 01:41:20,160
says I love you both so much. 
 
Your podcast brings me such joy.

1873
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,400
Wow. 
 
I never knew these things about 

1874
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,000
dolphins. 
 
And Kimber's impression of a 

1875
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:31,280
dolphin was scary good. 
 
I will emphasize scary. 

1876
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,760
It was very scary and it was 
 
good. 

1877
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,360
It was really good. 
 
I literally thought when I was 

1878
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,400
listening back to it, I'm like, 
 it sounds like a sound effect. 

1879
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,920
It really does. 
 
That was straight up Kimber 

1880
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,960
making those dolphin noises. 
 
It was. 

1881
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:48,080
Thank you. 
 
Thank you, Lisa. 

1882
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:49,360
Thank you for joining our 
 
Patreon. 

1883
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:53,720
If you want our love, give us 
 
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1884
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,480
the Holy Ghost to smother you 
 
with affection. 

1885
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,480
Poke us with your snoots in the 
 butts. 

1886
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,960
Leave us a good comment. 
 
Leave us five stars and leave a 

1887
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:06,720
review saying Chris and Kimber 

warm my bosom. 

1888
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,160
It's like Chris and Kimber have 
 slid across our pre approval 

1889
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:13,360
paper and we're going to give 
 
them five stars. 

1890
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,360
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 up ours, give us five stars. 

1891
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:22,280
If you want us to frame your 
 
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1892
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:27,280
thing and you leave us five 
 
stars the big dumb little 

1893
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,080
hookers you. 
 
Hooker, You better make it good,

1894
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:31,320
make it good. 
 
Hooker. 

1895
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:35,160
Oh. 
 
My God, I can't.

