1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Hello world, welcome to my Sister Wives podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,280 I'm Chris. And I'm Allie, we're long time 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,560 friends who had no idea we were both watching the TLC trainwreck 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,440 reality show Sister Wives. Join us as we rewatch Sister 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,760 Wives, maybe have a drink or two, and share what useless 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,920 information and insights we can provide. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,400 Listen to us two deadbeat losers judge the Brown family. 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,400 That's us all right. See you on the. 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Flip side. What does the nanny do? 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,480 OK, so we're done. Goodbye. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,240 You. Shut it off. 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Do not twist my words. Do not make me a victim, 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,960 sweetie. Just look at the mountain. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,480 That's what you saw that day. Just the knife and the kidneys 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,720 over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:14,200 you. Oh my gosh. 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,640 Part 2. Part 2 of Season 1, Episode 9. 18 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Boy, there's a lot to cover. Season 1 episode 9 sister wives 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,040 honeymoon special Now we broke this into two episodes basically 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,280 to spare you listening to us for two hours talking about this 21 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,840 episode because there was so much coverage, so many back and 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,720 forths. And so much was so gross. 23 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,200 This is that you you, you had multiple times during this 24 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,160 episode where you felt grossed out. 25 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,720 So we want to make sure to spread that, spread that 26 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,240 grossness, spread that love. We're really just thinking about 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,320 you. When it comes to my Sister Wives 28 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,280 podcast, we do put the listeners first. 29 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,280 OK. We are clearly overwhelmed with 30 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,400 the amount of grossness that we have taken in and it has 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,160 affected us and we will get our acts together for you. 32 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,480 Yes, but thank you for giving us the grace that the original 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,120 wives, the OG 3 have given Robyn. 34 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,000 You're giving us that grace. The honeymoon might be a lot, 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,480 but we needed our own little honeymoon. 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,680 We need a little break. So jumping back in from where we 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,040 ended at the last episode, Kody and Robyn are on their honeymoon 38 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,240 in San Diego and the wives are taking all of the children. 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,160 The the other three wives, Meri, Janelle, and Christine, are 40 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,320 taking the kids to on a picnic in the park. 41 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,920 And basically, we've watched them have shenanigans and blah, 42 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:42,200 blah blah blah, getting the kids ready and then they're finally 43 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,960 at the park after, yeah, whatever it took and Meri 44 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,920 handing kids knives in plastic bags. 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,600 And Kody and Robyn have been in San Diego and it has been 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,640 absolutely disgusting And as Ali said, gross. 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Yes. Yes, yeah, Logan is taking 48 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,000 charge and doing great, Meri says he has really stepped up. 49 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,040 Christine says. Well, especially when Kody's not 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,040 around. Yeah. 51 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:14,280 And Janelle kind of elaborates on how they treat their older 52 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,840 children kind of as young adults, which you definitely 53 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,600 see. They don't do a lot of the 54 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,280 babying of children really. I mean, they do, they're 55 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,080 affectionate and all of that, but they don't baby. 56 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,120 And as the kid kids get older, they really do, you know, kind 57 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,280 of expect them to jump in and help out. 58 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,600 And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 59 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,040 I think that's great. They do say that they treat 60 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,680 their teens like they're young adults. 61 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,680 I scratch my head a little bit about the mild parentification 62 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,080 of this stuff, like, you know, having kids have too much 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,840 responsibility when it comes to taking care of their younger 64 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,280 siblings. As an oldest child, I feel like 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,520 my perspective is that it's mostly OK. 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,120 My experience was that it was mostly OK because I didn't mind 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,520 leaning into like making meals and helping out with my 68 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,080 brothers. I it just kind of seemed it just 69 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,200 kind of came naturally to me. And I get that sense from Logan 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,520 as well. It doesn't seem like he's 71 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,200 begrudgingly doing anything. They do use him as an example in 72 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,360 the show. Other siblings are doing it as 73 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,160 well. But he's definitely their 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,520 example of like, oh, look at him stepping up in his dad's 75 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,800 absence. And it doesn't really bother me. 76 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,200 But I've read online it seems to bother other people this 77 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,360 parentification. I, I think there's healthy ways 78 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,600 to do it and unhealthy ways to do it right. 79 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Like if parents are just sitting back twiddling their thumbs and 80 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,360 not parenting at all while their children are parenting, that is 81 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,480 problematic. Now, asking your children to 82 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,360 participate in the activities of your family and of your home. 83 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,360 I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. 84 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,320 And it does teach them responsibility and it helps them 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:56,240 once they jump into that world out there, know how to do some 86 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,320 of these things. You see some people that get out 87 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,080 on their own and have no clue. But that's an interesting point 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,920 that you made about the oldest child myself also oldest child. 89 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:12,400 And it's interesting to think that yeah, there are like 4 90 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,120 oldest children in their family, right? 91 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:20,680 Like, and they're simultaneously doing probably similar things 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,440 and I, I'm sure that probably gets highlighted in different 93 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,720 ways about all of them, like throughout the years and stuff. 94 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,240 But Logan is definitely the one right now that is taking on a 95 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,080 brunt of responsibility. I think the only thing I don't 96 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:38,200 like about it is the reason kind of why he's having to do some of 97 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,280 that stuff. And it's because his dad's 98 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:45,520 absent because he's choosing to be with otherwise. 99 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,680 Like I just, I don't know how to reconcile that in the brain, 100 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,160 right? Like, I know that this is their 101 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,560 family and this is their culture, but like, he's just 102 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,520 choosing to bring additional people into the family and to 103 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,880 give you less time. Like that's what's being chosen. 104 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:03,960 So it's hard to reconcile in that brain for me. 105 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Like, but I'm still your kid too. 106 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,800 You're just telling me that now I get less and less and less of 107 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,760 your time, You know? I don't know. 108 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,840 I don't know. And we do see that later with 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,760 particularly the older girls, like Logan's the oldest, and 110 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,360 then there are other girls that particularly like Christine's 111 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:28,560 daughters and then Meri's child Leon, who do also have these 112 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,160 leadership roles and kids, you know, they take care of things. 113 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,600 And I think that's just kind of what happens in families. 114 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,720 And on a personal note, I wasn't mad about it because I think it 115 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,840 helped me with some, I don't want to like over dramatize it, 116 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:44,360 but with some leadership ability with some like get it done this 117 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,520 with being able to like manage things and and that's definitely 118 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,840 helpful going into the real world. 119 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,320 Also noteworthy, the camera work during this picnic outing 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,880 atrocious. Like, they did, they had, like, 121 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,200 you know, they were roasting the marshmallows on the sticks. 122 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,800 And at one point, the camera, like, zooms in to, like, 123 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,280 Gwendolyn with her little marshmallow that's on fire. 124 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:12,440 But like, it's not focused on anything and it's just 125 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,480 distracting. It's just like this. 126 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,880 Oh, my God. I was nauseous. 127 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,400 Yeah. What are you doing? 128 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,000 Stop it. And then it just kept jiggling 129 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,800 around all over the goddamn place. 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,240 They definitely didn't have their stabilizers on or 131 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,960 something. It was, it was a lot. 132 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,440 It was. Like is it a home video? 133 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,880 But I don't think so. Like yeah, while Logan is kind 134 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,320 of manning the grill bit, they show him flipping burgers and 135 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,560 doing the things cause Kody's absent shock. 136 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,000 Fucking his other wife. Sorry. 137 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,200 They show Peyton yelling at Aurora for taking his spot in a 138 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,160 folding chair, which is a it's funny to see because as kids, 139 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,880 like, oh, you took my chair and blah, blah, blah. 140 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,720 And he would not let it go. And Logan tried for a second and 141 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,960 then just kind of gave up because once again, like he's 142 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,760 not a parent, he's just playing this role. 143 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,080 But I think it's interesting because Christine talks about 144 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,760 how Peyton picks on the new sisters. 145 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,400 And there's something about this that I'm not sure gets addressed 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,440 a lot in the show. But there will be times where we 147 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,720 notice Peyton's absence in the show. 148 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,600 There were they don't show him doing much. 149 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 And there is a little bit of something with him picking on 150 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,760 his siblings as time goes on where he's maybe crosses some 151 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,520 lines. And I think this is the first 152 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,360 time where we see him not giving up on something that doesn't 153 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,480 really matter. And he's so young, So what are 154 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,679 you going to do? I mean, we're certainly not 155 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,120 trying to psychoanalyze a child, but just pointing out that in 156 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,160 the future, there are times that we won't probably see much of 157 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,840 him. And maybe it's because a lot of 158 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,120 the footage might be unflattering. 159 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Oh, interesting. I guess I don't know if I'm 160 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,880 really aware of that, but now. Yeah, because in the future 161 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,800 there are issues with him and Gwendolyn and actual issues. 162 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Actually now, yeah, I probably saw some Tik toks about that. 163 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,000 And I don't know the details of those things. 164 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,960 We're just doing some foreshadowing of foreshadowing. 165 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,800 And then they cut to the three wives around the fire in an 166 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,960 interview moment. A3 for one spotlight moment. 167 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,760 So I'm I'm not. For one spotlight I like that 168 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,720 spotlight I like. That I don't know that we should 169 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,160 you know how cruel make them all share a spotlight like oh God, 170 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:37,920 but. Hey, they chose this Life, OK? 171 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,040 Meri talks about how it's no secret that her and Kody have 172 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,880 had serious issues and that she detaches from the family when 173 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,800 she's upset with Kody, and we talked about this in our recap 174 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,440 of Episode 8. How Meri is now referencing at 175 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,320 the end of the season these big issues and these problems that 176 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,120 she has in her relationship with Kody, but yet while they're 177 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,840 filming earlier, I don't really know that there's any big 178 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,640 things. I mean, they show their 179 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,640 honeymoon dinner and that was an awkward conversation, but it's 180 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,400 almost like, did I miss something? 181 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Like, why is Meri's relationship with Kody so horrible? 182 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,360 I don't really know. You know, that's a good point. 183 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:27,320 And I guess I'm not sure if she specifically said exactly what 184 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,200 the issues have been. I think that we have seen some 185 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,600 instances where maybe they were not on the same page infertility 186 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,360 wise and things like that, but she doesn't necessarily say that 187 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,400 those are their big issues, you know, But I think it was pretty 188 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,160 clear that it was 1 and that they certainly weren't on the 189 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,520 same page about that. I think sometimes when she talks 190 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:58,400 about her jealousy issues, she's not talking about this as if 191 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,360 it's been the first time she's been jealous. 192 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,920 I think that she probably had moments of that with both 193 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,920 Janelle and Christine as well, and maybe also just jealousy 194 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,920 moments of the amount of children every other wife has. 195 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,680 And so, like if I was trying to pinpoint without hearing the 196 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:23,160 words from her mouth about some of their big issues, those would 197 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,040 be the things that would come to mind. 198 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,200 Yeah, and that absolutely. She does talk about jealousy. 199 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,080 There's just something about the scope of which it was approached 200 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,200 before these final episodes that makes me go was this such? 201 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:38,640 If this was such a big deal, why are we just hearing about it 202 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:39,200 now? Kind of. 203 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Right but right. We have also heard these kernels 204 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,480 before, so maybe I'm just an insensitive man. 205 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Typical man, you know. But she hasn't specifically said 206 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,920 it. Like she hasn't specifically 207 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,000 said these are the things we've really been struggling with over 208 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,600 the years. Like, yeah, it's that has 209 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,600 certainly not. It's almost like a reference to 210 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,040 things that we don't know about or like that's not part of the 211 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,880 family, which is another thing that is weird with her. 212 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,040 It's like, I don't know. But she does say, and I think 213 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:11,320 that that's part of it, that she detaches from everybody else 214 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,600 when she does have these issues. And so I can only imagine that 215 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,960 if you're feeling like you're struggling with your husband, 216 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,960 but you're seeing him in other relationships that maybe aren't 217 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,960 at least seemingly that way or you wouldn't be shared the 218 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,200 details if they had struggles as well. 219 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:33,000 You're probably sitting there going how awful is my life? 220 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,640 And look at how great theirs is. And just, you know, going into 221 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,920 this rabbit hole of insanity and, yeah, you're already 222 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,720 detaching yourself from everybody else. 223 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,880 So then that's creating other dynamics within the family and 224 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,720 the other kids and the other wives and all of this, which we 225 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,720 know from the future that other children have very interesting 226 00:12:56,680 --> 00:13:01,240 perceptions of how Meri parented them and how Meri was involved 227 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,520 in their relationship. So yeah, I mean. 228 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,520 And you are foreshadowing experiences that other wives 229 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,680 share in the future about that. How do I sit here and watch 230 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:16,120 someone have a healthy marriage with someone when I don't? 231 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,160 And that brings about a whole like, I don't know what that 232 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,360 means. I've never been in that 233 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,160 situation. That would be a lot to manage. 234 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:26,680 Could not, yeah. So one relationship is hard 235 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:29,400 enough, right? One relationship is hard enough 236 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,040 to balance any of the challenges that you go through, let alone 237 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,560 like just think about watching your friends be in 238 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:39,120 relationships, right? And like whether you are in a 239 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,960 relationship or not, there are aspects of that that you either 240 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,480 maybe admire or like, thank the Lord, you know, like I'm glad 241 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,080 I'm not in that situation. I just you're right, like having 242 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,640 you be one of four in this picture. 243 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,480 It just seems nearly impossible to me to have, like, a healthy 244 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,840 psychological balance for all of these women. 245 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Like, like, how is there a way? And that's not even necessarily 246 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,920 like a fault of Kody Brown. Well, I would blame him for 247 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,400 every single thing I can, right? Like, I am not. 248 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,280 This is not your second pass. Oh, but he does have two more 249 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,800 before the end of the season. Well, I think it's for the 250 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,240 lifetime of the. Show, I'm sorry, you're right. 251 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,880 You're right. We did not have a deadline on 252 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,360 it. Thank you. 253 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,920 I was like, God, I can't have to. 254 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,760 No, he does get two more passes. I possibly cannot handle this 255 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,000 out, but but yeah, it's interesting, you know, they're 256 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,040 when they're around the fire like that to. 257 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Janelle tells Meri that she's really impressed with how she 258 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,800 has evolved. Because Janelle thinks it's 259 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,640 really impressive that Meri is starting to share these feelings 260 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,480 with how she does feel with Robyn coming in and some of this 261 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,000 stuff. Because for Janelle and 262 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Christine, it's new to hear the stuff from Meri, right? 263 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,560 Like they are not used to her opening up and sharing her, her 264 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,680 feelings like that. So that was interesting. 265 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,440 And then Janelle also said, well, I've always been a lot 266 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,960 less needy. Like I'm just not as needy as 267 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,320 you are. She didn't, she didn't throw it 268 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,280 as a dig, but it was interesting. 269 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Maybe Meri even said, like, well, I know you've never really 270 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,120 had to deal with these feelings. And Jill's like, I'm just, I'm 271 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,800 just not that needy. Right. 272 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,360 And yeah, Meri says that she thinks Janelle has always been 273 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,440 independent. Yes. 274 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Yes, yes. And, you know, I'm not quite 275 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,120 sure what to think about the whole Meri doesn't express 276 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,200 herself because I feel like in the future they that narrative 277 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,960 is actually flipped where it was like Meri was always expressing 278 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,000 herself and I didn't know how to like deal with that. 279 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,800 So it's like, I don't really know about that, but in this 280 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,760 moment it makes sense maybe. She's found a healthier way to 281 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,240 express herself. Instead of out of anger and 282 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,160 frustration, she's just having a level headed conversation about 283 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,680 it. Maybe that's the difference. 284 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,560 That is probably true. Kody says it's all about 285 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,920 sensitivity when it comes to his wives. 286 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,120 He's just, you know, he's so sensitive, which is funny 287 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,840 because we have literally seen him be insensitive repeatedly in 288 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Season 1. Well, the sentence that 289 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,120 followed, It's all about sensitivity was I've spent my 290 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,360 fair share of time being insensitive. 291 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,640 Oh my God. So clearly he's on the right 292 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,840 path because he knows that's important. 293 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,440 He doesn't always do it. He's trying to be better, I 294 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,560 guess. I don't know. 295 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,800 The wives say that Kody always runs into emotional landmines 296 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,400 when he returns to them or returns home. 297 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,280 I guess that makes sense, but I don't know. 298 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,280 What do you think? Yeah, they were kind of 299 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:56,040 describing both what he has to deal with when he gets home, but 300 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,240 also kind of what they need from him when he gets home because 301 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,760 they said that they needed him. Maybe it was, I don't know if it 302 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,240 was Janelle, probably Christine. That's sorry. 303 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,240 I didn't mean that to sound like Christine. 304 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,480 But they said that they needed him to fill their emotional 305 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,760 bank, right? Like their Piggy Bank, but their 306 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,118 emotional bank. And sometimes they didn't feel 307 00:17:20,118 --> 00:17:21,760 like they got that in return from him. 308 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,598 So they felt a little depleted and that he wasn't doing the 309 00:17:25,598 --> 00:17:26,960 right things to make up for that. 310 00:17:27,358 --> 00:17:32,040 Christine said she wished that she didn't care this much like 311 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,600 that she wanted to be more independent and to not let this 312 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,520 affect her. Like, she hates the fact that 313 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,400 this new situation that they're in is affecting her like this. 314 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,160 And I think that's kind of telling with how things progress 315 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,840 with Christine, too, right? Yeah, they discuss. 316 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,480 Like, is it ridiculous to think about him too much? 317 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,960 Right. Like in their absence, is it 318 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,560 ridiculous to think about him too much? 319 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,120 And I'm going like, well, he's your husband. 320 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:03,640 So it's weird coming from a monogamous background to think, 321 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:04,920 well, what are you talking about? 322 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,160 Like if your spouse is spending a bunch of time with someone 323 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,080 else, of course it's not ridiculous to think about it, 324 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,160 But also they signed up to have their spouse spend this time 325 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,960 with another person. I know, it's so 326 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,520 counterintuitive, all of it. Like it just does not like 327 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,120 there's not a safe balance thing. 328 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:24,200 Like, of course you're going to still be crazy about stuff. 329 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,400 Like, of course you're you're crazy still going to come 330 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,320 through with all of that. Yeah. 331 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,600 You know, like, absolutely. You know, I really thought it 332 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,200 was rich though, that then Meri refers to Kody as the glue that 333 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,080 holds them all together. Yeah, right. 334 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Is there something about glue coming from like a horse 335 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,800 factory? I don't know. 336 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,960 There's something like. The sheer look of terror on my 337 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,880 face, like oh, don't. Do that. 338 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Don't do that. But really? 339 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,600 Allegedly. But this is true. 340 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,720 I mean, you know, Meri does say that. 341 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,080 And I guess you know, in in a way that's true. 342 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,400 I mean, they're all married to him. 343 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Listen, I think Kody was supposed to be the glue that 344 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,760 holds this whole family together. 345 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,800 He's supposed to be the glue. And when he starts failing at 346 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,360 that duty, this family falls apart. 347 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,160 Like literally you can blame the demise of his marriages on no 348 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,880 one but him. Like he was in 4 marriages at 349 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,040 one time and only one has survived. 350 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,320 The onus of that is only on one person and it is him. 351 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,920 So like sorry Sir, you were the glue. 352 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:34,440 You should have been the glue. You built this whole big thing 353 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,920 for all of these people and then you dropped the ball. 354 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were some shitty glue. 355 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Basically you were glue that didn't hold it together. 356 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,760 Elmer's instead of super. Yes, yes, the kind. 357 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,560 You can just play Elmer's instead of Gorilla. 358 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Elmer's instead of Gorilla. He's the Elmer's when you need 359 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Gorilla 100. Yeah, loser. 360 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,720 Kody Brown is a loser. So then we flashback to 361 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,480 beautiful sunny San Diego and Robyn insists that Kody call his 362 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,200 wives. She required it from him when he 363 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,520 and Meri were in Mexico for their anniversary. 364 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,680 So I think that's an interesting tidbit that she basically told 365 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,920 him. I don't know. 366 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Yeah, I might be putting some words in Robyn's mouth, but you 367 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,280 need to call me while you're in Mexico with Meri. 368 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,200 And therefore, now that the roles are reversed and he's on 369 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,520 vacation with her, she is adamant that he call his wives 370 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,400 to check in on them and to talk to them. 371 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,960 And that's coming from someplace. 372 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,760 I don't know what place that is, but I think it's interesting. 373 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,080 I found it very interesting that after they had that Robyn and 374 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Kody clip and then Kody was calling the other wives, one of 375 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,280 them, I'm not sure if it was Meri Christine or Janelle, but 376 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,000 one of them said Kody is really growing and improving. 377 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,400 It's not all Robyn like, like it was implied that Robyn is making 378 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,520 him do all of these things. And they were like, no, I just 379 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,960 think he's really evolving and growing and getting better. 380 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,800 And so now he does this and it's like, no, you lunatic, she is 381 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,040 doing that. But she was telling him to do 382 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,040 this because she thought that it would be meaningful to the other 383 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,400 wives, which is admirable. And I think that that's great, 384 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,520 but the the underlying truth is that it's because she wants to 385 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,640 be able to ask that of him and have that be OK. 386 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,240 So what she is doing is saying, well, if you do this for them 387 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,640 when you're with me, then I can ask for this when you're with 388 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,720 them and it's not a problem. So again, it's the right words, 389 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320 but it's not necessarily the right actions. 390 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,920 Like there is manipulation behind it, and if it's not 391 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:04,000 intentional manipulation, there is an underlying something that 392 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,240 she is doing. It's like she's trying to build 393 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,440 a framework. She's trying to have something 394 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,200 happen where he is expressing himself to his wives. 395 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,480 He's connecting with them, but it's not of his volition. 396 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,200 Like I, he doesn't come out straight and say, oh, I don't 397 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,880 want to talk to my wives or I wouldn't call them. 398 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,520 But when someone's making you communicate with another person, 399 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,840 that doesn't mean that you want to bottom. 400 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,600 Line No. And she's just looking out for 401 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,960 her own interests. And she just wants to be able to 402 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,680 say that Kody is the best husband that there is around. 403 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,720 He is such a good husband. He loves his wife so much. 404 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,200 Look at all he does for his whole family and all of his 405 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,480 wives. But what she's not taking into 406 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,800 account is truly how he's treating his other wives, truly 407 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,760 how they are receiving. Yeah, all of this truly how his 408 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,240 hi, truly sorry a lot about you and all of these things, but 409 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,080 like she she's she wants to be able to project that he's just 410 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,680 this, you know, gem and it's like, listen, that might be what 411 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,280 you need. They talk about their needs 412 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,600 being so different, right? Like they all need different 413 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,560 things from him. You're getting what you want. 414 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,920 Nobody else is girl, like nobody else is. 415 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,000 And you're not even recognizing it. 416 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,480 And it's barely started. You're 2 weeks in, you know. 417 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:24,240 She needs him to demonstrate her talking point of Part of the 418 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,560 reason that I fell in love with Kody was how he treated his 419 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,000 other wives, so she really needs him to look like he is actually 420 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,080 treating his wives well. And she says she wants the other 421 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,800 wives to feel secure. And it's like, bitch, please. 422 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,200 Like, you do. Not you. 423 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,840 Yeah. You just don't want them to 424 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,000 cause problems for you. You don't want them to feel 425 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,240 secure. You just don't want them to be 426 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,720 problematic. Totally. 427 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,480 It's like mild villain thing or something. 428 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,840 Like, I just want these people to feel this way so that they 429 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320 feel feel that way. It's like, OK, whatever. 430 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaking of somebody getting in their feels. 431 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:04,360 Janelle, yeah, yeah, Janelle and her feels when she talks about 432 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,800 ignoring Kody's phone calls. I was dead. 433 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,520 Yeah, it was a little. There was a little bit of 434 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,640 sequencing issues with her description and what we learned 435 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,400 a few minutes later. But from what I gathered, it 436 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,760 sounded like perhaps for as much as seven days she ignored his 437 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,800 phone calls and she references that he called 5 or 6 times in a 438 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,520 row at one point and she finally gave up and answered. 439 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,360 It was interesting to see Janelle talk about how they're 440 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:35,320 growing closer as a family by having a new wife join while 441 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,000 also ignoring his phone calls because she is upset. 442 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000 She was pissed. She was very mad. 443 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,680 And, you know, it kind of doesn't really align with her 444 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,520 cool, calm, collected, you know, worker mentality or what they 445 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,320 this thing they give her, this trope they place on her, when in 446 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,160 all reality, yeah, she's fucking pissed. 447 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,560 Do you think it was because she was mad she didn't get sex for 448 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,880 11 days? Oh God. 449 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,080 No. Well, that was maybe part of it. 450 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,320 I don't know how particularly horny Janelle was at this time. 451 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,400 I think Janelle has a healthy sex drive and I don't think 452 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,760 there is much else that would make her that mad. 453 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,760 Yeah, like what is Kody really doing for her? 454 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,600 Right? Like how is he really helping 455 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,160 her? Well like you said like one out 456 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,360 of every 10 times. She could maybe need help with 457 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,240 something. He might have been there, and 458 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,480 then anything else outside of that is probably just the big O, 459 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,520 I'm guessing. I don't know, you know, the way 460 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,440 that she makes him. She was so mad. 461 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080 And she's. First decline. 462 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,160 Decline. Yes. 463 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,200 Decline. Decline. 464 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,960 Oh my God. Wow. 465 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,440 Yeah, You know, maybe Janelle was also sexually frustrated. 466 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,880 I, I don't know, there was, it was some big feelings that she 467 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,880 is still not over probably to this day. 468 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,720 So. But in classic Janelle fashion, 469 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040 does she really get into the details of those things? 470 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,840 No. So now we are left to speculate 471 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,440 that it's because she wasn't getting her thing done. 472 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,680 Well she just kept saying 11 days is too long, 11 days is too 473 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,600 long. So I'm reading the the like 474 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,800 undertones of what she is. Which I cannot identify with 475 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,120 because 11 days, that's that a long time ago. 476 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,160 No shame, no shame in this game. No shame. 477 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,720 Sorry. I'm protecting my shame on you. 478 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,000 Another thing I picked up on in their kind of spotlight moments, 479 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,480 particularly Robyn and Kody, is, and this touches on what we were 480 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,440 just discussing, is that Robyn seems to be what I thought is 481 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,960 that she's like coaching Kody in these moments about the 482 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,920 importance of making his wives feel important. 483 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,160 It's like she keeps reiterating these points in front of him in 484 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,760 a way to like demonstrate what he should be saying or thinking 485 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,280 and he's just kind of like agreeing and nodding. 486 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,000 And also, they're on their honeymoon, so I think he's 487 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800 probably thinking about how he just wants to get off camera and 488 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,280 like, oh, have sex or something. But it's just the word coaching 489 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,240 to me stuck out in my head. She is like leading him along 490 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,560 what he should be saying and it drives me nuts. 491 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,680 I hear you. Because she was telling him that 492 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,600 he needed to do better. Yeah, Now just listening to you 493 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:26,240 describe it that way, there's a level of like, this man has been 494 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:32,640 married to these women, what, 1617 and 20 years? 495 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,360 Yeah. So the fact that Robyn wants to 496 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:42,400 come in now and start training him on how to treat his wives is 497 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,920 kind of rich, right? Because, like, they have made it 498 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,000 1617 and 20 years without her involvement. 499 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,360 And it hasn't been easy and he certainly hasn't been perfect. 500 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:01,480 But oh, the irony that her trying to train him into a 501 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,240 better husband. Yeah actually makes 3 divorces 502 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,280 happen right? Like. 503 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,840 And then on the flip side is her like sacrificial lamb bit like. 504 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,400 Oh, the martyr, the martyr. Yeah, exactly. 505 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,720 Like, oh, I just wanted him to be the best for his wives. 506 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,360 It's like. OK, well you did say that in 507 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,760 front of him to in hopes that he would agree like. 508 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,480 And then you lost the life that you had always hoped for. 509 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,280 I wanted to sit on the porch with my sister wives. 510 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,000 OK, that's we're getting way ahead of ourselves, but anyone 511 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,160 who knows, knows and you'll know what we're talking about. 512 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,280 Yeah, that was rich, I mean. Yep, at one point. 513 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,760 Then during these interviews, Kody and Janelle both talk about 514 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,920 how they started as friends and Janelle says that they were best 515 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,680 friends and Kody talks about how they weren't romantic, they were 516 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,840 basically just platonic friends and Kody and Janelle don't seem 517 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,760 to be on the same page about romance and the wives different 518 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,120 positioning. Christine says that Kody never 519 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,880 valued her as an intellectual. Yes. 520 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,360 And Meri says that the grass is always greener. 521 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,920 So it seems like they're all just kind of recognizing their 522 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,280 different perspectives. But the main point that I picked 523 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,360 up on was that Janelle and Kody were platonic. 524 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,520 They were friends. She says they're best friends, 525 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800 blah, blah, blah. And it's like, OK, well, I don't 526 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,800 know. You were married to Meri's 527 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,000 brother and you clearly have like, some sort of sexual thing. 528 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,740 So I'm imagining being Meri and watching Janelle become quote UN 529 00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:39,760 quote best friends with Kody while she's married to him. 530 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,400 Like there's something a little weird there, but I think the 531 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,080 emphasis is really that they didn't have some sort of wild 532 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200 romance in their perspective. They both really think that they 533 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,000 were just like good friends. And I don't remember if it was 534 00:29:53,160 --> 00:30:00,160 Kody kind of analyzing this or if it was somebody else, I'm not 535 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,400 sure. But it was alluding to the fact 536 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,880 that even though, sorry, even though Janelle and Kody didn't 537 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,080 have that romantic relationship, that maybe now that she was 538 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,040 seeing that with Robyn, like seeing him have a romantic 539 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,600 relationship with Robyn, that maybe she was desiring more of 540 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,440 that. I don't know that I buy that 541 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,080 about Janelle a lot, but maybe there is something that was 542 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,680 making her doubt her connection with him in some fashion, right? 543 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,520 Like. That could be. 544 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,400 I don't, I don't really know what it was. 545 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:41,480 I was heartbroken that Christine didn't feel like she was valued 546 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680 as an intellectual. Like I thought that was pretty. 547 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,120 I thought that was pretty big. And I think that that's why she 548 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,760 ends up where she does, because she just never thought that she 549 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,520 was valued and respected and treated in a way that she should 550 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,440 have been over the years. You know, like, I don't know. 551 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,080 It's funny to hear you say that your heart was broken because I 552 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,680 kind of just. Laughed because she's not an 553 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,400 intellectual. Yeah, I mean, I just kind of 554 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,720 like, I just kind of shrug my shoulders because I'm like, 555 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,360 yeah, like, Christine, you're not an intellectual. 556 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,160 Like, literally, I don't know why you think you would be 557 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,200 valued for that. But I'm an asshole so I don't 558 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,240 know what to say. Well, maybe it's not the right 559 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:31,680 word that she used. Maybe what she means is more 560 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,600 like, now I'm trying to find the right way to picture this, but 561 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,600 like, she does have good qualities, right? 562 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,440 Like she is. Yeah. 563 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,280 She. She is a great caretaker. 564 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,680 She is like a great cook. And she can do all of these 565 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,280 different things, like I Intellectual maybe or maybe not 566 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,680 the right word for her. Yeah. 567 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,800 But maybe there's a lot we don't know about her, too. 568 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,880 I don't know. Yeah. 569 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,720 I just think it showed that she didn't believe that he 570 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,720 appreciated her in the same way that he did his other wives. 571 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,360 I think. I think that it means that he 572 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,360 didn't think she was as smart and as valuable as his other 573 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440 wives. And that's what she felt from 574 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,800 the beginning. Whether it's the right word or 575 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,320 not, I think those were the feelings. 576 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,160 And putting words into her mouth, perhaps, you know, 577 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,760 dismissed and set aside that kind of thing. 578 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040 I mean that that was the vibes to take away. 579 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,800 It just didn't hit me in any real fields. 580 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,760 Well, I mean, I don't know, I was going to. 581 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,040 Like I can't imagine marrying someone who I feel like doesn't 582 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,880 take me seriously. Like I don't even know what that 583 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,040 means. I don't know. 584 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,800 I'm going to let you in on a big secret. 585 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,280 Sometimes when you marry people, you believe they feel one way 586 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,000 about you, right? And then sometimes, yeah, things 587 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,360 change. And then they change. 588 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,000 Fair enough from a single person's perspective who's never 589 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,160 been married. I'm not even saying just from my 590 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,720 perspective in that I'm saying from watch the show, yes, what 591 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,800 they thought they were marrying was a dairy, dairy different, 592 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,400 very different situation than what they got, you know? 593 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080 Amen. There's also a little clip of 594 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,040 Kody and Meri on the phone while. 595 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,440 He's in San. Diego and to me it feels like 596 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,440 they're speaking completely different languages. 597 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920 It's like he's doing this obligatory check in because 598 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,280 Robyn's made sure that he knows that it's important and she's 599 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,840 talking about dreams or he brings up the dreams. 600 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,520 They must have had a discussion about dreams. 601 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,880 She, the way that she's responding would have made me 602 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,120 ask, like, you OK, or dive into it a little bit. 603 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,720 And maybe it's just because they're on camera, but they seem 604 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,120 to be completely disconnected from my perspective. 605 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,440 Also what was super off putting about it was that Kody is 606 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,040 sitting in their hotel room with Meri on speakerphone and talking 607 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,280 to Meri all lovey dovey while Robyn is in the bathroom in the 608 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,200 same room. Yeah. 609 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,160 And what do I think happened? I think Kody was putting on a 610 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,520 show for Robyn. And I think that Meri knew that 611 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,000 Kody was putting on a show for Robyn and could tell that she 612 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,960 was on speakerphone and knew that what he was saying was not 613 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,480 truly what he meant to say. And he even talked about like a 614 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,320 text exchange they had had about like their dreams or something. 615 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,440 I couldn't follow any of that shit. 616 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,760 But I'm like, is Robyn telling you what to text your other? 617 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,400 Why? Oh God. 618 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,760 Like there was an ick factor to that big time. 619 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,600 And I think Meri was picking up on the ick factor and he was not 620 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,320 obviously because he thought look at me killing it. 621 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,639 I talked about my dreams with my first wife, you know, like, and 622 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:54,560 I don't. It was gross, yeah. 623 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,639 And I don't remember exactly what was said, but there was an 624 00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:01,880 element to of him ushering her in a direction like he, I feel 625 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,760 like he thinks he's manipulating these people in a way that they 626 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,560 never pick up on. But this is an example where I 627 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,840 do think Meri was not into it, but he was definitely doing some 628 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,280 sort of manipulation tactic with. 629 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,720 Some of the things like I want you to think about that or next 630 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:20,120 time try it that way or something like that. 631 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:26,840 It was a way of guidance in how she should do something in the 632 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,040 future, most certainly the whole thing. 633 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,920 Yeah, it was totally a gag worthy moment. 634 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,960 Now, if there had been a camera in Meri's house receiving that 635 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,400 phone call #1 would be curious to see how different it would 636 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,560 be. But Oh my gosh, if her actual 637 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,320 like, body language during that was cat like, Can you imagine 638 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,720 the look on her face? Yeah, if that's what she was 639 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,680 perceiving, she was. She was cold. 640 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,320 She was not warm and fuzzy other than saying like I miss you at 641 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,840 the beginning. And then she kind of realized 642 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,680 what was happening and she was grossed. 643 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,040 Out. Yeah, Yeah. 644 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,800 It must be so disappointing to be on the other end of a call 645 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,000 like that, to be on the receiving end of that call like 646 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,840 gross. Gross. 647 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,000 Gross, weird. We're back and also like, she 648 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,280 gets to watch this in the future, like, you know. 649 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,120 Like she gets to. See that That's what he did. 650 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,800 Yeah. Oh yes re watching something 651 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,920 that you had a gut check or feel about and then to see it just 652 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,440 confirms. Validated. 653 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:40,520 Yeah, we are so disgusted. It's so bad, all right, The, 654 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:44,360 the, the lovely couple, the couple that we're just so 655 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:50,720 enthralled with, the people's couple, the people's couple. 656 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,080 Whose people? The people's the worst people 657 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,360 you've ever met. The worst people you've ever 658 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,120 met. Couple comedy and Robyn. 659 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,480 I just needed that clarification. 660 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,040 Return to the homeland, to Utah. And so they're back in town and 661 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,000 they're getting back into the swing of things, blah, blah, 662 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,400 blah. But of course there's some sort 663 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,480 of like, we're getting together, blah, blah, blah, whatever. 664 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,840 They start with Christine talking about a conversation she 665 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,960 had with Robyn where she asks Robyn or states, I guess it's a 666 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,240 statement and a question. Tell me you needed this. 667 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:31,760 And Robyn said that she did. And Christine says that that's 668 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,800 sad, and I didn't really, really get that. 669 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,200 I did not follow this at all. It was weird because it seemed 670 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,320 like Christine was trying to say what my interpretation of it 671 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,160 was, was that Christine was saying if Robyn really needed 672 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,280 this, then that's great, I'm glad she had it and I'm going to 673 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,760 give it to her or whatever. But then she said that that's 674 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,880 sad. And I'm like, well, what's sad 675 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,520 is, are your feeling sad or is it sad that Robyn needed a 676 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,560 honeymoon? Like I didn't really get it. 677 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:04,120 OK, so if I'm being bitter, cynical me when she first asked 678 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,720 Robyn, just tell me that you needed this. 679 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,600 She asked it because I mean, they were. 680 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320 We know that this was her motive in asking the question, right? 681 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,760 That they were all still so fucking pissed that he was gone 682 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,200 for 11 days. That she's like, I just need to 683 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,440 know that you needed this, Robyn. 684 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,120 And it's like, first of all, what does that fucking change 685 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,960 doesn't change anything. If Robyn needed this, that 686 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,040 doesn't fucking matter. You're still mad at your husband 687 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,720 husband because he prioritized her for nearly two weeks over 688 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,360 you and the other wives and your children. 689 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,280 PS By the way, so like, so like, get the fuck out of here with 690 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,880 all of that. Like I, I, I don't quite 691 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,840 understand the motivation, but behind asking the question I do 692 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,320 not get yeah, where she was going with like. 693 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,560 Where was she ever going to go with it? 694 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,600 Well, right. And then of course, what's 695 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,160 probably going to say no, I just want to take away your husband. 696 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,800 I was just being self. I didn't mean silly me. 697 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,480 Oh, I didn't realize that would be problematic for you. 698 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,320 My bad. Like, no, of course she's going 699 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,600 to say yes. I needed this. 700 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,120 Yeah, but the. Oh, that's so sad. 701 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,320 And it was in a Christine tone of voice. 702 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:20,800 Oh, that's so sad. Like, what do you mean it's so 703 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,520 sad? Is it sad because you are now 704 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,120 realizing that if Robyn needs something, her needs are going 705 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,280 to be prioritized over yours? Is that what's sad? 706 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,480 And we're just not allowing to frame that full picture right 707 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,640 now. Is it sad that Robyn just felt 708 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,360 like she wasn't getting enough the whole courting period? 709 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,360 Is that what's sad? What the fuck's sad? 710 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,000 I think it's sad that Christine's not an intellectual. 711 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:56,040 Oh shit. Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was 712 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,560 like an error or an omission or something that was missed 713 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,560 because the that sad bit, I mean, I, I know what you're 714 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,240 saying, like. Thinking about what could it 715 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,720 mean, but I honestly just didn't even get it at all. 716 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,240 No, it seemed like they left us hanging with something like they 717 00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:15,200 did not complete the picture or the puzzle, if you will. 718 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,760 I think the only thing they kind of even went to after that was 719 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,840 just that they all have different needs at different 720 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,640 times, right? Which, yes, obviously they do. 721 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,520 You know, in editing, they cut to Kody saying that he and Robyn 722 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,840 did need a long honeymoon because the family is so large 723 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,800 and that the other wives didn't have kids when they got married. 724 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,640 So I think that was maybe a tie in to some of the like, why did 725 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,680 you need such a long honeymoon? I don't know if that was 726 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,000 supposed to be an answer to that. 727 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,240 He also kind of said though that like the other wives also had a 728 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:58,560 unique experience. Like he may be equated the time 729 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,480 frame differently because of children, but at the beginning 730 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,680 he was like Oh no, every wife had a unique experience for 731 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,600 their honeymoon. I suppose in the sense that it 732 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,800 wasn't planned or executed well. And that they took a road trip 733 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,760 of varying hours or days and ended up in certain places and 734 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,360 some got sick and some didn't and some hated it and some 735 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,040 didn't. So you are right, unique 736 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,920 experiences, I guess that's what he means. 737 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,840 Yeah, he didn't say good experience. 738 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,600 No, he didn't. He said unique the strategory 739 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:38,760 behind this man sometimes. Did you catch Robyn's like a 740 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,440 little emotional tidbit after that though? 741 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,200 What did? What was that? 742 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,800 She was talking about the length of time that they had been gone 743 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,080 and that there had been maybe some frustration on otherwise 744 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,640 parts. And she said that she she was 745 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,240 not quite sobbing, but she was a little teary eyed. 746 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,560 And she said that the sisterhood that she had been promised had 747 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,480 gotten yanked away like sometimes throughout this whole 748 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,920 like courting process and the fields and then the honeymoon 749 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,920 that this, this sisterhood had gotten yanked away. 750 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,880 But now that they're back and everybody's together, she has a 751 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,920 glimpse of hope. Good, you want. 752 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,600 Robyn was really worried about her. 753 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,720 The whole time everyone was really worried about Robyn's 754 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,320 hope, and she talks about how she wants relationships with the 755 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,120 wives as much as she wants them with Kody, so she's got these 756 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,440 talking points down for. Bullshit. 757 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,040 Verb. She definitely had some sort of 758 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,640 things to say. Were they based in reality and 759 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,560 do I believe them? Jury's still out on that. 760 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,760 Do you know why at this point in the episode they cut to the 761 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,800 wives shopping, it seems. I don't really know if there's 762 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,680 some sort of reason they did this other than that. 763 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,280 Maybe they just had some footage they wanted to put in, but all 764 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,880 of a sudden they're shopping. Do you remember why? 765 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,600 Yes. So they had returned home and 766 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,440 Kody wanted to get the whole family together for a dinner, 767 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,640 but he didn't want the wives to have to prepare that. 768 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,120 So he sent all of the wives. I say he sent generously. 769 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,280 I don't know whose idea it was for them to have a shopping 770 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,720 trip. Yeah, someone more thoughtful to 771 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,160 him. Yes, Correct. 772 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,360 And him to prepare dinner with the kids. 773 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,000 But that's what was happening. They were out shopping and he 774 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,320 was at home with the kids preparing dinner. 775 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200 I also remember there was a point that they were in the 776 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,400 midst of preparing dinner and he started reading instructions off 777 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,240 of a bag of tater tots. Like just aloud to the kitchen. 778 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,880 He goes, someone needs to listen to this 'cause you have to cook 779 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,800 it like Tater. Tots He. 780 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,960 Had a bag of tater tots that he was reading the directions aloud 781 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,800 like somebody listened, 'cause you got to do it. 782 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680 Like what are you doing, Sir? Oh my gosh, now that is funny to 783 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,960 think that you need that. You couldn't just tell a kid, 784 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,000 hey, turn the oven onto this temperature and put him in for 785 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,600 this long that he needed to read it to another child and they 786 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,440 needed to be aware. Like, this is it. 787 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,200 But that was it. So. 788 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,320 And it was actually cute. Him and the kids cooking dinner 789 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,840 was cute, but that's why the women were shopping. 790 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,640 And oh boy, they're shopping. And they're shopping now. 791 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,800 I do have to give Kody Father of the Year award for making dinner 792 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,880 for his own children or insisting that they be on top of 793 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,680 the Tater Tots or whatever it is. 794 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,840 I guess he probably, you know, dismembered and burned an 795 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,720 animal. I just, I don't know God. 796 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:34,440 Listen, he grilled steaks. He made them do everything else. 797 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:41,280 He wore an apron that said I turn the grill on. 798 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,760 Yes, he did. He turns the grill on. 799 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,640 Gross. Listen, it wouldn't be that off 800 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,080 putting from some people. Why does it say I'm a little wet 801 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,480 over here girl? We will evaluate that later 802 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,160 because that's. I might need to go to the. 803 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,720 Urgent care. There could be an ER visit in 804 00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:02,120 your future if that is making you horny. 805 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,480 Or that I'm wet, period. But OK. 806 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,480 Yep. Amen. 807 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,000 Well, what can? Yep, Yep. 808 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,480 Where are people of a certain age, Sir? 809 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,520 This is a family podcast. This is a podcast you can listen 810 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,200 to with your kids and your grandkids. 811 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,560 So while they're shopping. OK, so I thank you for talking 812 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,160 about why they were shopping because I literally was like why 813 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,280 the fuck are they shopping? But that's right, because Kody 814 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,320 wanted them to have a nice meal and not prepare it and nice as 815 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,160 an air quotes. I mean there are tater tots, so 816 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,720 Amen. The steak looked good. 817 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,320 Though OK, yes, the steak actually did look good. 818 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,640 OK Christine while they're shopping though points out that 819 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,560 a top is unflattering on Robyn and Robyn seems to take it 820 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,800 personal and she talks about her being the the shirt makes her 821 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,560 look flat chested. OK whatever I guess you know 822 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,520 Christine has bigger boobs than Robyn but I was just disturbed 823 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,240 because the top was literally horrendous. 824 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,600 The whole dress was terrible. Christine just wasn't trying to 825 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,240 hurt her feelings. Yes, the entire outfit was 826 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,880 disturbing. It looked like something she 827 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,280 would later put on a doll. It had ruffles and buttons and 828 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,880 it was OK, OK, I OK. Before I used to say little 829 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,600 little house on the merry. Oh, I've upped my game. 830 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,720 Oh my God, it's little blouse on the merry. 831 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:28,240 Oh, pretty proud of that. I gotta say I'm pretty proud. 832 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,880 So little. Blouse on the merry. 833 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,920 Oh my God. So we had Little blouse on the 834 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,840 merry and now we've got this hideous outfit on Robyn and 835 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,360 Christine is being a good sister wife and saying she's just. 836 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,040 Saying don't buy that fucking dress like coming up with any 837 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,400 reason it looks odd. Yeah, and. 838 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000 It looked terrible and Robyn seemed to be taking it all. 839 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,280 I'm going to go cry in the corner and it's like, girl, it 840 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,360 just doesn't look good on you. Like hello. 841 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,640 What about the next outfit she tried on though? 842 00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:57,560 Like this? Shirt I've had a trauma 843 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,000 response. I've missed it. 844 00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:00,000 I missed it. It was. 845 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,720 Like just like a long sleeved red T-shirt type of situation 846 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,200 but be dazzled up the side. And I'm going to say like dragon 847 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,480 pattern but probably not dragon pattern. 848 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,840 But I couldn't look close enough to see the pattern because it 849 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,720 was so disturbing. So that thing landed on with the 850 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:25,360 correct purchase for her because she looked great in it also 851 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,760 looked like a teenager. Also her boobs did look OK. 852 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480 It was very form fitting. So it did show that she still 853 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,560 had boobs, but it was like a shirt that the teenage daughters 854 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,640 would buy. Yeah, it was a interesting thing 855 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,160 for Puddle Monkey Productions to keep in with Christine giving 856 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,440 that advice to her, because as a viewer, it certainly didn't seem 857 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,240 like an attack on Robyn's physique or her body. 858 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,840 It was like, listen girlfriend, this doesn't look good on you 859 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,960 and like. Also, it's not going to look 860 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,840 good on anyone. It's a terrible dress. 861 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,800 Oh my God, it would look. It's a terrible dress. 862 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,440 It should be burned. It should be burned. 863 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:05,920 It was not cute. Yeah, maybe a goth chick could 864 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,280 do that dress, right, like somebody with the right attitude 865 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,240 up, like, you know, head attitude. 866 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:15,240 Yeah, the right boots, like some attitude could do that dress. 867 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:21,120 But simple SOB and Robyn cannot. Some early 2000s Orange County, 868 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,000 like those girls that are all like, oh, look, I'm, I think I'm 869 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,040 Gwen Stefani. Maybe some chain jewelry, like 870 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,640 not necessarily chain, but like long drapey and some bracelets. 871 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,280 Yes. There there's a place in time 872 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,040 for that dress. It was not on Robyn's body 873 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:34,800 today. Yeah. 874 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,160 And the time and place might require you to squint and blur 875 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,040 your vision, but it could be there. 876 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,560 It was awful and horrendous. And Robyn feigning that it was 877 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200 offensive is so stupid. Fuck Robyn. 878 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,800 Fuck Robyn. She's so dumb. 879 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,480 She can't even take good advice from a friend. 880 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,120 Like, if a friend was literally like, that shirt looks bad, 881 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,920 she'd be like, Oh my God, I'm going to take it personal. 882 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,840 You're an idiot. OK, Chris, don't worry. 883 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,320 Robyn's not here in the room with me. 884 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,640 Show me on this doll where Robyn hurt you. 885 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,280 Thank. God, knock knock knock on the 886 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,240 back door. Fuck. 887 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,680 Oh my God, Robyn's here. OK, Robyn, Good. 888 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,680 Now I'm going to start myself on fire, OK? 889 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,120 And then cut to Kody talking about I still have as much love 890 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,280 for Meri, Janelle and Christine as I ever had. 891 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,760 And I'm like, OK, what prompted that? 892 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,240 Like, once again, I have to question, I wonder, did 893 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,320 producers prompt this with some sort of question? 894 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,760 Because it's like, where is this coming from? 895 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,640 He's probably being questioned about it. 896 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,440 To me, it felt just like just like a bullshit Kody line. 897 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,600 Did it move you in any way? Well, no, I thought it was dumb 898 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,840 because again, we're saying the right words, but our actions are 899 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,840 not matching our words. And so you can say that you have 900 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,440 just as much love for them. You know, right now he might in 901 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,680 theory have just as much love for them as he did before. 902 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,840 But we can see that it's changing. 903 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,560 We know that it's changing and we know that it's because of 904 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,200 Robyn. I do think there is a level of 905 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,040 her that is saying, remember to say that. 906 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,520 Remember to say that you love Christine, Janelle and Meri just 907 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,520 as much as you love me because everybody has to know that you 908 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,640 love them just as much as you love me. 909 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,600 And she, I think, is probably sensing the way this is all 910 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,320 going to come across eventually. And you know, it's funny, even 911 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,800 back then, it didn't come across that way. 912 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,760 It just came across as they're adjusting dynamics. 913 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,360 They're they're riding this wave, they're trying to figure 914 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,680 out how their family is going to work it. 915 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,680 I don't think however many years, 15 years ago ish when we 916 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,960 watched this, I don't think I thought, Oh my God, they're 917 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,440 never going to get through this. No, I just thought Kody was a 918 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,000 sleazeball. I thought he was skeezy. 919 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,320 You know, he's got that like douchey undertone, overtone, 920 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,120 undertone midtone. He's got the douchey thing 100%. 921 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,520 So of course from the beginning I was like, this guy is 922 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,640 ridiculous. And I did judge the wives 923 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,360 because I'm a judgmental person, but I was not expecting like 924 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,000 this family is going to fall apart in every way possible. 925 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,080 I think we still gave their family some credit. 926 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,080 I think that even though we judged a lot of things as as we 927 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,520 fucking should have, by the way, none of the the current day 928 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,760 situations would be what I would have predicted. 929 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,560 Like, I just wouldn't have seen that happening. 930 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,880 I would have seen some drama coming for sure. 931 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,600 But like, I think I would have thought they would have worked 932 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,040 it out after as many years as they had been together as a 933 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,440 family, Yeah. So yeah, I definitely didn't 934 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,720 predict that things that we know happen in the future would have 935 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:45,880 happened. So moving into the wrap up of 936 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,840 the episode, we have all of the family together eating this 937 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,160 meal. The steak potato tots. 938 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,760 No, what I love is I love a cheap potato with a piece of 939 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,520 meat. So why am I judging? 940 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,480 I just can't help myself. But they're all eating this meal 941 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,840 together. It seems wholesome. 942 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,960 It seems lovey dovey like, oh, they're all eating together. 943 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,840 One big, happy family. It was it was super cute and I 944 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,760 liked, listen, I actually do like every time that I see Kody 945 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,240 being an actual father to all of his children, like him is a 946 00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,840 father in Group environments with all of his children and 947 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,800 even with all of the wives together. 948 00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:28,400 I think I always kind of like that vibe. 949 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,840 Like I there are moments of this that is always good. 950 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,240 I think it was genuine. And I, again, I think these kids 951 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,520 have real relationships and I think the wives have real 952 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,960 relationships. And I think that there was this 953 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,240 picture for not necessarily a fairy tale. 954 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,080 I don't think any of them thought it was going to be a 955 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,960 fairy tale, but something that would end very differently than 956 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,800 what it turns out to. Yeah, Meri, I think kind of 957 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,240 closed us out. Meri, Meri. 958 00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,440 Truly. Oh, truly. 959 00:52:59,440 --> 00:52:59,920 Hello. Yeah. 960 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,200 Inspirational. I have such a soft spot for Meri 961 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,240 sometimes and I got to get over that because I'm not supposed to 962 00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:09,520 like Meri. I don't think we can't have a 963 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,040 soft spot for Meri. Yeah, I know there's. 964 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,560 I think we're going to have moments upcoming that we have 965 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,680 less of them. Yeah, there's something about 966 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,960 Meri. Isn't that a movie? 967 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,000 Something about Meri? Yeah. 968 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,320 Stiller, but Ben Stiller with the common the with the bodily 969 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:30,280 excretion body body. Men with the semen in the hair. 970 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,760 Semen in the hair. OK, so there's something about 971 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,880 Meri. Little blouse on the Meri. 972 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,320 I just feel like you. Will do like little blouse on 973 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,080 the Meri. I'm impressed. 974 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,000 I do too. I know I was like this is. 975 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,360 Good, yes. Like I feel like maybe I should 976 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,840 change something online to like little blouse on the Meri, but 977 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,240 I'm going to have to ask you to hold my feet to the fire when it 978 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:59,240 comes to Meri because I go oh, Meri and then like 5 minutes 979 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:01,160 later I'm like, Meri, you're a fucking mess. 980 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,520 So. But I also do love Meri. 981 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,920 I don't know. I don't know, Meri. 982 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,640 If you're listening, do. You think you're really going to 983 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,120 give Meri more credit than she deserves? 984 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,400 Because that hasn't happened yet. 985 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,000 And I don't think it's going to happen, no. 986 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,800 You put it that way. No, I'm definitely not going to 987 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,800 give Meri more credit than she deserves. 988 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,280 I think we're going to be OK. Yeah, OK, I know. 989 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,000 I don't know why I'm asking for forgiveness in advance, yeah, 990 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,760 but. You're also asking me to do a 991 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,200 task, and that's to hold your feet to the fire. 992 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,840 And I'm just making it clear that a, I'm not going to do that 993 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,640 task. I mean, maybe if I remember, I 994 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,360 will. Yeah. 995 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,800 But like, you'll do that to yourself. 996 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,240 So I think I don't have to jump in on this. 997 00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,600 One I will, and I do suspect there will be a moment in the 998 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,520 future where you'll be like Chris. 999 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,480 OK. Stop. 1000 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,200 I promise you that if I acknowledge that moment, I will 1001 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,520 tell you. What's an if I had a dollar for 1002 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,280 every time someone called me a packing Nazi, a tooth puller and 1003 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,080 a photography goddess? Nope, Photography Nazi cross out 1004 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,080 goddess. Red light, yes, thank you. 1005 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,960 Thank you for the correction. I would not have any money. 1006 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,160 So and then yes, we do move into this, you know, sound bite from 1007 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,640 Meri talking about how polygamy is like a woman becoming a 1008 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,040 mother because there is pain, there's discomfort, and then 1009 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,360 there's a blessing. So the parallel that she's 1010 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,960 trying to draw between that and polygamy or being a polygamist 1011 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,920 wife, but probably polygamy in general. 1012 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,960 I think it's an interesting thing because it does make 1013 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,520 sense. I'm also like, I don't know, 1014 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,120 like you're choosing to do this thing. 1015 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,240 So I don't know. I'm going to say that it makes 1016 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:42,840 sense. I, I think that maybe part of 1017 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,800 what Meri forgot was to leave out some of the descriptors, 1018 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,360 right? Because what she means is that, 1019 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,960 you know, if you become pregnant and are going to be a mother, 1020 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,840 there's a lot that catches you off guard that you're unaware 1021 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,640 of. And so there are times of 1022 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,600 extreme pain and discomfort. And that could be in burying the 1023 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,280 child, that could be in raising a child, that could be in 1024 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,960 anything. But, but you don't necessarily 1025 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,840 know fully what you're getting into in that moment that you get 1026 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,720 into it. You know, you made a choice and 1027 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,000 in some fashion that this is happening, right? 1028 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,320 But you don't have all of the foreshadowing. 1029 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,360 You don't know exactly how that's going to work out. 1030 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,360 So you're going through this, this thing in your life that is 1031 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,600 meant to be the most important and the most exciting and the 1032 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,600 most wonderful. And interestingly enough, it's 1033 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,600 not, it's painful and it's uncomfortable and it's not 1034 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,080 exactly what you thought it was going to be. 1035 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,680 But hopefully if you work all of work through all of those hard 1036 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,440 things, then yes, you get to that blessing. 1037 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,360 Is that something special? And that's where you end up? 1038 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,560 I think that's what she means. And I think that it was just an 1039 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,560 abridged version of how of the how all of those thoughts, 1040 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,800 feelings and opinions come out in really any circumstance in 1041 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,640 life. It's not just that as an 1042 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,480 example, but I think a pretty relatable 1. 1043 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,240 And yeah, I mean. Yeah, I, I feel like when she 1044 00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,840 starts talking about that, she references it as if it's 1045 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,400 something said in the culture, right? 1046 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,320 Like, as if it's a thing that particularly women can identify 1047 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,640 with and then can say, oh, this journey is going to be like this 1048 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,920 journey, yada, yada, yada, connect the dots. 1049 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,600 So it was an interesting way to kind of wrap up the episode. 1050 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,400 They have a scene, they have footage of them blowing up the 1051 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,120 candles on the cake and then the episodes done and that's the end 1052 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,240 of the season. So what was this cake for? 1053 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,000 Was it just that they're all together? 1054 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,840 I think it was the family officially joining together. 1055 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,680 Yes, OK, yeah, the dessert of this important family meal, Yes. 1056 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,280 Where the wives got sent off to buy some ugly fucking clothing. 1057 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:59,800 Oh my God, You know, I was doing a mental note in my brain when 1058 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,960 the wives all walked into the house after the shopping trip 1059 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,440 because I knew Robyn was going to have a shopping bag, but I 1060 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,520 wasn't sure. Or if any of the other wives 1061 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,880 have bought anything, right. Like I was, I was just like, you 1062 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,840 know, if that bitch Robyn, she got something and did the rest 1063 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,520 of them, I think they all did. I think they all have. 1064 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,800 OK, because I didn't notice I wasn't paying attention for. 1065 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,400 That I think they did. I don't know that they all 1066 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,920 clothing. They might have gotten other 1067 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,920 things, but there were other shopping bags with wives, yeah. 1068 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,760 So I was happy about. That it wasn't just Robyn with 1069 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,600 all these bags and the wives trailing behind like staff or 1070 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,440 something. Exactly. 1071 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,320 Classic. And now we come to Ali's 1072 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,960 favorite part of every episode, Mustard Seed and Shit Stain. 1073 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,880 And we're always prepared with what we think. 1074 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,520 So, Ali, why don't you take us away with your mustard seed of 1075 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:53,280 the episode? My mustard seed of this episode. 1076 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:59,120 I think my mustard seed is Christine. 1077 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,920 Oh, OK. Oh, out of left field I like. 1078 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:03,960 OK. All right. 1079 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,720 I think the reason that Christine is my mustard seed. 1080 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,360 I think, I'm not sure, but we're going to go with this part. 1081 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:18,080 I, I really, really liked her encouragement of Janelle and not 1082 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,360 thinking that she was illogical like I, I really liked that. 1083 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,240 I thought that was a really good sister wife actual move. 1084 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,680 It really was a great signifier of their actual like she was 1085 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,640 think totally like there for each other, Yeah. 1086 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,480 And that's why they're still friends today, you know, like, 1087 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,000 you just could see that. And I, I liked her validating 1088 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,760 someone else's feelings. I and I think Christine's 1089 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,160 feelings maybe sometimes don't get validated enough. 1090 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,440 And that's why she struggles a little bit with some of stuff. 1091 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,280 Right. So I thought that was great. 1092 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,360 I'm going to give it to Christine. 1093 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:51,080 Yeah. Yeah. 1094 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,440 I support this choice. I think it's a good choice 1095 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,320 because I agree with you. I'm not necessarily I was 1096 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,920 singing Christine's praises, but that was a really great sister 1097 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,960 wives moment. Like if I had a sister wife, I 1098 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,120 would hope they would be like, no, no, no, no, no. 1099 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,040 Like you are allowed to have your feelings. 1100 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,160 So that's great. I think my mustard seed, I'm 1101 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,320 going to give it to a non adult. I'm going to give it to Logan. 1102 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,240 Oh. I love that. 1103 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,960 I know, right? I'm going to give it to Logan 1104 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:22,960 because stepping in as that parent parentified role, blah, 1105 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,120 blah, blah. Being the oldest, I identify 1106 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:30,280 with that as as you do as well. And I think he does it like I 1107 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,040 talked about earlier, he doesn't seem tied to it. 1108 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,000 He doesn't seem obligated to it. It seems to be natural and he 1109 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,960 just has this thing about him. He just seems like a good guy. 1110 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,960 He seems like a really nice person. 1111 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,680 He seems like he's well-intentioned. 1112 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,240 He wants the best for people. He also uses humor at times 1113 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,920 where it's appropriate. Like he's like cracking jokes 1114 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,640 and kind of has an emotional intelligence about him that 1115 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,960 speaks loudly as someone who's not even an adult. 1116 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:04,040 He seems well put together and looking forward to seeing his 1117 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,440 journey. And I think Logan's great, so I 1118 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,360 got to give him my mustard seed. I love that. 1119 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,520 That's really good. I like it. 1120 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:19,480 Yeah, so for shit stains, right? Do you want to go first for shit 1121 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,400 stain? Sure, I pick Robyn. 1122 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,800 Oh, Robyn. Weird. 1123 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,240 OK, isn't that weird? Why? 1124 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,760 Would you pick Robyn as a shit? Stain. 1125 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,760 I pick Robyn as a shit stain because she says the right words 1126 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,160 but she does not have the actions to follow behind it. 1127 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:42,480 And I think this was one of I probably said this 10 times this 1128 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,360 season and we're only 10 episodes in. 1129 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:49,600 But like, not even hoops. She says all of these things and 1130 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,640 I'm like, listen, you don't do that. 1131 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,240 You don't follow through on that. 1132 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,080 You don't actually execute things in the way that that's 1133 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,360 how you want these other relationships to go. 1134 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,720 You are only looking out for yourself. 1135 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,960 It is clear that that is the case and you need to stop. 1136 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,680 So it's Robyn. Yeah, Amen. 1137 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,640 That is so true her she does use some language but the actions 1138 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,320 have not aligned thus far. And will they ever? 1139 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,320 I guess only the future will tell us. 1140 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,320 Oh, I have a question. Yeah. 1141 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,960 If we didn't know the future. Yeah, like the first time we 1142 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:26,720 watch this, right? Yeah. 1143 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,040 OK. What do you think we thought of 1144 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,160 her then? I didn't really think much of 1145 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,120 her. I don't know, I just. 1146 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,680 Dumb. I just think I thought she was 1147 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,240 dumb as a box of rocks and just was there and I'm like. 1148 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,160 She's so milk toast. I just felt like she was just 1149 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,400 around. I certainly never thought 1150 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,920 anything nefarious. I didn't think anything I didn't 1151 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,920 read into it much at all to. Be honest I I feel the same. 1152 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,160 Yeah, so my shit stain for this episode, which is funny that 1153 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,080 it's a 2 parter so it's pretty meaty. 1154 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,360 We've got a lot to cover. And my shit stain is going to be 1155 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,560 Meri. Oh my God, already. 1156 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:06,960 My shit stain is Meri because she was giving a child a plastic 1157 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,200 bag full of knives and being like be careful. 1158 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,440 OK, now you're reaching that it is a read, I mean. 1159 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,880 I'm not going to say Kody because it's Kody. 1160 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,200 Oh my God, he's always a shit stain and. 1161 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,880 OK, this is maybe Kody's second pass. 1162 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,880 I'm handing the second pass off to you because you're giving him 1163 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,280 a pass when he should have a shit stain this week. 1164 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,080 Oh, I don't. I don't think I should accept 1165 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,560 such a big thing. If we're going to use trivial 1166 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,960 reasons like handing a kid bag and knives, OK, maybe that's not 1167 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,160 trivial, but I think kind of it is. 1168 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,880 I love that. I'm like, absolutely not. 1169 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,480 That cannot be your shit stain. And I'm going like, I don't 1170 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,320 know, I kind of think it's Meri. I, I, I could say Kody because 1171 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,240 he's like flexing and gross and a bad husband. 1172 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,840 But at the end of the day, I, why is it so? 1173 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,800 This is so dumb. Mustard seed and shit stain 1174 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,000 should not be this hard. It should not be this hard. 1175 01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,720 But you know what? I'm going to stick with my 1176 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,880 intuition and I'm going to give it to Meri because you don't 1177 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,440 hand kids knives and plastic bags. 1178 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,640 That's just dumb. And realistically, there's going 1179 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,040 to be plenty of opportunities to give shit stains to other 1180 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,520 people. And I don't know, I've got to 1181 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,680 keep my my mind sharp when it comes to the shit stains. 1182 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,840 With Meri, I got to make sure I'm on top of it. 1183 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:22,320 I support you I guess. You can say that you don't 1184 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,880 support me. I'm just a little confused, but 1185 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,480 it's not that it's up to me so it's all good. 1186 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,960 Or keep sweet moment on this episode as it's a 2 parter. 1187 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,880 We didn't do it on the first part and that's totally fine. 1188 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,680 You know we're two deadbeat losers making this up as we go. 1189 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,760 Oh. My gosh, thank God we've made it 1190 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,400 this far. Yes, well, yes, thank God you've 1191 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,920 made it this far. Our Keeps me moment this week is 1192 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,360 going to come from another TikTok comment because, you 1193 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,240 know, sometimes we get some fun ones on TikTok and we put up a 1194 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,920 video about Robyn messing up the wedding invites. 1195 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,880 And it was basically Ally talking about that. 1196 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,680 It's like, you know, Oh my gosh, Robyn. 1197 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,400 Robyn totally fucked up the invites. 1198 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,760 And we know this is true because God told us. 1199 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:14,240 And Crash Davis left a comment on our last TikTok video that 1200 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:19,720 says I think Robyn staged this as she knew no friends were 1201 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,760 going to show up and she didn't. And she needed to explain why no 1202 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,240 one showed up for her but her family. 1203 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,880 Hot take. And I'm like, oh, I love this 1204 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,000 because yes, like, oh, oh, yeah, no one was going to show up. 1205 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,720 And I made a mistake. It's like, girl, you knew no one 1206 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,040 was going to show up. God, I love that because she had 1207 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,440 said that they didn't think that a lot of people would. 1208 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,560 Oh, I like this conspiracy theory. 1209 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,720 Share more guys. Share more. 1210 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,080 Yes, if you know insights that we aren't covering, please feel 1211 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,080 free to leave them as comments nicely. 1212 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,440 Not as if we're idiots because we're just deadbeat losers. 1213 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:57,280 We don't know everything we don't we don't like obviously. 1214 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,800 We're not idiots, we're just deadbeat losers. 1215 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,360 Well, that's true. It's like the best catch phrase 1216 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,320 ever. Well, you know, sometimes the 1217 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,240 truth is what it is. We love and appreciate five star 1218 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,040 reviews. The five star reviews are making 1219 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,360 us very happy. 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