Let me call you sweetheart. I'm in love with you.
What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
Goodbye. You.
Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
Do not make me a victim. Sweetie.
Just look at the mountain. That's what you saw that day.
Just the knife in the kidneys over all these years and the
sacrifices that I made to love you.
Welcome back everyone to my Sister Wives podcast.
I'm Chris. I'm Allie.
Welcome, welcome. Hello, hello.
The title of this 4th episode is Third Wife in Labor.
So, you know, obviously based on that, we're thinking we're going
to see Christine giving birth to Truly, who we know is a woman
and is coming out of her vagina or wherever she's coming out of
and her name is Truly. And we already know that.
Or wherever she's coming out of. Thank you, Chris.
Groundbreaking. You never know, you know?
I know there are more than one option, but.
Well, they're just very contemporary.
They know the gender, they know the name.
They're they're, they're more contemporary than me.
At the beginning of the episode, they're doing that kind of
montage like things that are coming up on this episode.
And one of the clips, I don't know if it's Janelle, but
someone talks about how the baby isn't breathing.
And it's so eye roll to me because they're using this
salacious clip as like a cliffhanger thing for like you
have to watch the episode and it feels very disingenuous.
It feels like it doesn't go with anything else that's happening.
And it's like we're here to cause the drama.
And then it cuts into the intro where the wives introduce
themselves but it's or say their tag lines or whatever but I
don't know, it felt weird to me. Oh, I missed that.
But now that you say, yeah, I mean, I don't think that's an
accurate description of what happened, clearly.
So I don't know where those things were said when or why or
how. But no, that's not what
happened. I know.
And like, was Janelle just telling some story about a
previous miscarriage or some sort of other situation and they
just used it for this scenario? It's like that's cheap and then
it's never even used again. Is it used again?
I don't. Maybe it was more so that she
was saying she was explaining that she was happy Christine had
decided to have the baby in the hospital because what if the
baby isn't breathing? OK, I think maybe that's what it
was. OK, it just struck me as very
like, OK, this. If this is what was going to
actually happen in this episode, the whole intro would be
different. Like give me a break.
Great editing. Great.
Wonderful. Pull a monkey.
You guys are great. You guys are great.
So the episode starts with basically Christine and Kody
going to the Doctor like they're going to the doctor's office.
Oh, but they pan through the house 1st and they got that crib
in the room when they were moving all that furniture.
They got that crib in that room. Yes, they did.
I didn't even pay attention to that.
The crib was in the room. Yep, it was.
It was sandwiched between all the other furniture that
Christine could barely walk through because there's no space
in that room, but the crib was there.
OK, good. So the crib's there.
So that got figured out from their whole moving their
situation debacle. Oh my God.
You know, Christine and Kody are going to the doctor and
Christine mentions that she is one week overdue.
Doesn't seem alarmed, is just kind of mentioning it and saying
like, oh, well, obviously we need to do something about it.
I don't. I also don't think that they
said we're having the baby today.
I felt like they were just going to the doctors and then all of a
sudden it was like going to the doctors have the baby.
Did I? I don't know if I missed
something. Did you know they were going
right away? Well, they were going to decide
whether she should be induced that day.
OK, so there was the possibility when they were leaving the house
that like yes, we could be having this baby today.
So like they pretty much came prepared for that to happen.
OK. But yes, they that and they
weren't 100% sold on inducing the baby until Kody discovered
it could be his 13th child on the 13th day of the month.
And they were like, yeah, let's just do it.
We'll induce. Yeah, he had.
He had quite a bit of enthusiasm about that 13th on the 13th.
Very excited, Very excited. When they're doing their talking
heads, when they're doing their interview, they someone says
brings up how Robyn's wedding is coming up and like how they have
these things. A lot is happening.
A lot is going on and it's like,
of course, Robyn's wedding is like on the list of things that
we are talking about when discussing truly being born.
Yep. They literally like phrase it as
get that baby out. We got other things to do.
Like it's like, that's kind of what they're saying.
Like we got we we need to move on from this one.
Check that off the list. Moving on, moving on.
Baby's here. Let's have this wedding.
Oh, I think there's a birthday for Meri happening in there too.
Maybe. Anniversary.
Oh, 20th anniversary. Yes, yes.
Robyn talks about having Christine and Janelle's kids
over for a party while Christine and Kody go to the hospital.
She says like a par it wasn't even like that.
Like she struggled to get that word.
She was it was like she was trying to sound cool mid word
and it did not work. It did not work out.
It was really bad. But she said they were going to
have a party, right? Yes.
She's so hip and cool with her party.
Oh, and then she says, oh, that was her first time crying in the
episode. I didn't.
I didn't note it as specifically because it wasn't quite as
dramatic. Maybe it was only one this time.
We'll see that she loved having all of the kids there and
jumping in and taking on the step parent role because she
comes from a broken home. And so she had a stepfather that
raised her and she called him like she said he became her
daddy. And it was like, OK.
Yeah, Daddy really stood out to me in her use.
It was weird. And another thing that we will
find out in the future is that this stepdad who became her
daddy also was a friend of her mother's.
Like they're friends of the family.
And there was an affair that happened.
And that's how this became her mom, became his second or third,
I don't know, became his second wife because there was an affair
that happened. OK, so in her.
She's doing the Rose colored glasses of the whole thing like,
oh, I got this new daddy and whatever.
There's kind of a joke now that it's like Uncle, stepfather,
daddy, because he, she referred to him like the way that they
grew up, Like he was like Uncle, whatever his name is, Bob.
Uncle Bob became stepdad and then Daddy.
Oh my God. So, you know, keep your
potential future husbands close. Well, that tracks.
That tracks. When the wives are talking about
different things, having their cutaways on the couch.
And Meri also talked about having a miscarriage, which was
I think the first time we hear about that.
I believe so. And, you know, I felt bad for
her knowing that she had one child and then had a
miscarriage. And that's all that's happened
for her. I you know, it's, it's her
narrative, it's her story, but it's not fun to hear about, you
know? No.
And she, she just kind of briefly mentioned it and then
moved on like it wasn't anything.
I think it was three years ago. And she said, and that was the
last time I've ever been pregnant.
And there she was, you know, like, that's it.
I was like, OK. But yes, not fun for anybody.
Definitely. So sorry, Meri.
We talked about the 13th child on the 13th day when they were
in the car. They made mention of how it
first came up about the Friday the 13th and they were
superstitious and then they didn't want that.
That's right, yeah. Like in the car on the way to
the hospital. Yeah, yeah.
Just that it was funny that that's how it transpired, was
more superstitious and we don't like Friday the 13th and so we
don't want to get induced today. Wait a minute and you know what
I mean. Absolutely.
Yeah. It's like the opposite of what
they were saying moments before. Yes.
When they go back to Kody and Christine at the hospital,
someone is speaking about in a, in a talking head or whatever
about how in polygamy, going to the hospital for births raises
concerns because the father is oftentimes not the legal husband
or has other wives and has blah, blah, blah.
It just brings up all these complications and I guess raised
eyebrows concerns, problems. I have heard before about how
birth certificates do not have fathers names on them because
they can't do that, right? Is there anything else that you
know of about the whole being a father, husband, childbirth and
a hospital thing? You know, it was interesting
because I don't think originally I thought about the like legal
aspect to it. I just always thought it was
more of like they don't typically or they're not fans of
modern medicine. And so they didn't.
I thought, I thought that was why they weren't going to
hospitals. I thought that was the only
reason why I didn't realize that there was the legal aspect to
it. But of course, it makes perfect
sense, right? But I just thought that had not
been something that I would have considered because it's not a
typical thing that people have to the doctor or the nurse even
made reference to like, working with polygamous families before
and helping them with their babies.
So it's kind of this weird, like, yeah, that's unusual, you
know? Well, they bring it up as if it
is a cultural thing and I guess demonstrated by the episode to a
certain extent about not having fathers husbands there.
But then throughout the episode as Christine gives birth to
truly and blah blah blah blah and all the stars align and the
angels sing and all that, it's never brought up again.
Like, you know, I feel like that's they didn't display
anything about Kody having a thing with the doctor where
there was an issue about him being a polygamist man or the
the bio dad or not the bio dad or the husband or the not.
It didn't seem to be an issue at all.
Well, and I, I know that some of these things come up in more
detail down the road. I don't know if it's in this
season. I think it some of it probably
starts in this season maybe, but with like laws changing and
things like that. And maybe I hopefully the timing
is in the right order for whatever the hell actually
happened. But maybe there is a time in
which, yeah, that's totally fine.
And then maybe it becomes not fine again or something.
I don't, I don't. We'll, we'll do our research.
Well, and also, I guess if we're talking about the legalities of
it, that's like paperwork and administration.
I don't know necessarily that a doctor is going to be like,
well, I'm not going to deliver this child for you.
So I don't know what I was expecting I guess.
Well, no, but also like, they're not being shy about it, right?
Like they have a camera crew, they have the whole damn family
come in, they have all of this. So this is not meant to be
something that is hidden in any fashion.
So they must have full confidence that this won't cause
them any trouble. Yeah, yeah.
So there's a moment where I can't, I don't remember who
started, but like, Christine and Kody are laying in the bed
together, OK, in the hospital room.
And Kody's like, laying like he normally would in any bed.
And Christine, who's about to birth the baby, is like,
awkwardly, like on her side to the edge of him.
Like, he certainly has more of the bed than she does.
And I'm like, why are we doing this?
And the cuddles were just awkward too.
Like, it was like, OK, I so. Yeah.
He's laying on his back as if he's in bed.
I mean, he's tight in there, but he's she's on her side.
It was just like, come on. All right, whatever.
Yeah. OK, so there's there's a moment
that Kody is sitting there, right?
And he's texting on his flip phone, and it's framed just so
right that Robyn receives the text message on her flip phone.
And there's this whole, like, he has this weird smirk on his face
as if he's like, so proud of himself or something.
Look, I got one birth and a baby.
The other one still wants me to come home, like, blah, blah,
blah. It was just, I don't know, it
felt gross. It just felt gross.
Typical Kody Brown fashion. Yes, the energy definitely did
feel weird in that and of course like editing of them having the
like texts received and here I am.
But it did feel gross that it's like he probably wasn't texting
someone else and. Like, well, and maybe the the
piece of clarification is like, I don't think he had that look
on his face when he texted Meri. Like if he's updating Meri about
the birth and everything, I don't think he has that look on
his face when he's doing that. No SO.
He's like, shit, I've got to text Meri like I forgot.
Yeah, like it did feel like he was like texting his girlfriend
while his wife's in labor, even in the not typical sense, right?
So. Well, and then the day's
obviously progressing. I don't know what he did before
meeting up with her. Made-up story in my mind that he
was working and doing whatever, and then Christine's like, oh, I
have this doctor's appointment and he showed up like from work,
like from a meeting. Or from something?
Yeah, we don't have much detail. Behind that, but he's wearing
like khakis and a dress shirt. Like he literally looked like he
was at a work thing and then came home to like, well, are we
going to have this baby or not? So then it's like he has to
leave, which is so annoying. And he says he's going home,
which for everyone that's not watching because no one's
watching home, I'm putting in quotes because he says he has to
go home to change and update family members about what's
going on. And then, oh, where does he go?
Where does he go? He goes to Robyn's half home.
He doesn't go to the the Lehigh Triplex.
I will never stop laughing when you say half.
Half home to her, half home. I think it was half house
before. And now it's a half home.
She's she's evolving. She's got she's those kids are
coming over. It's no longer 1/2 house.
It's a half home. They framed it almost like it
looked like a single family home, though.
Well, that's they're Yeah, it was.
They did a good. Job they're trying and you know
what's funny is like if I had a duplex I would have I'd have a
duplex that's more than I have right now.
I have no property at all. So I'm not making fun of someone
in a duplex. I'm more just was like was she
in 1/2 house in in Saint George, now she's in 1/2.
Like I don't know. It just was it was more about
the Robyn bit, certainly not about the home.
I don't think there's any issue with the home, but.
Amen. So especially since it's now
he's considering it home when speaking to his wife who's
giving birth. Interesting pinpoint, right?
Yeah, it is, It is. He's also leaving literally
right as Christine has been induced, right.
So Christine has been induced and he decides he has to go home
to get his things. So perfect timing, really.
Yep, We, we couldn't have done that.
Maybe before she was induced. You know, that would have been
an interesting choice. But so he does he, he leaves.
And then Christine starts talking a bit about she kind of
gives her take on the home birth situation versus hospital kind
of briefly. And she she said it had been a
really good experience so far in the hospital.
Like she liked getting like the epidural and things.
And then she even considered, was it possible that she had
made a mistake having her other children at home, which I
thought was interesting because I don't know that there was
anything bad that happened, But she was just really enjoying the
experience of having it in the hospital.
And I think part of that was the knowledge that medical
professionals bring you throughout the process.
Like, you know, what's happening, You're updated,
You're not terrified, you know, things like that.
So it's kind of crazy. So Kody's back home, AKA at
Robyn's house amidst all the chaos, Right.
And then what happens? Christine's water breaks.
Oh, shocking. Yeah.
It happens, and it's funny because in the episode it's
literally like, I don't know, it's a commercial, but then all
of a sudden it's like Christine's water broke.
Like OK, here we are. And apparently it's a pretty
well known thing that like right after Christine's water breaks,
she has her babies. Like that's how it goes.
They know that Christine's going to give birth quickly.
Everybody knows it, everybody knows it.
Well, all I'm saying is that this was not a hidden fact.
There's some, there's some statistics behind this at this
point, and yet he still chose to leave right then.
So yes, there's this mad dash. So Christine's on the phone with
Kody saying hurry, hurry. And Robyn standing in the
kitchen saying, do you do you want a granola bar or some
goldfish crackers? And he's like, I got to go
crackers. Yeah, she's still offering
snacks and she's running out the door.
Oh, and then Nope, You you get this honor.
You know, Kody's rushing out of the house because his wife is
giving birth and the cameras following him as he's walking
out the front door of his new half home with Robyn.
And he dashes out the door. And I don't remember if it
happens while they're inside that there's a quick smooch or
if it's outside. It was outside and they had
closed the door. OK, Yeah.
So that the camera crew wouldn't see it.
Wouldn't see it. And they came right out.
Yes, as the kiss was ending. That's right.
The doors closed. They think no one's filming.
Crew opens the door, you see the end of it, and then there's a
cut. So not sure exactly what
happens, but then Kody's like further down the sidewalk, like
along the garage and turns back around and says, I have a wife
in labor. I'm not going to sit here and
kiss my girlfriend. And then he turns and kisses her
again. Like, I get that you're trying
to be silly or something, but you do know that this isn't
kosher. You know this isn't a good luck.
You're not even married to this woman.
You're otherwise didn't even kiss you before you were married
to them. And you're kissing her while
your other wife, your third wife, is giving birth.
Crazy. And you're recognizing that this
is the wrong thing to do, yet you are still doing it.
Like they were giggling like school kids when the cameras
came out after they opened the door.
And like, he, he, he. And like, just, oh, it was
gross. It was so gross.
And he knows it's wrong. And so interesting that you
noticed there was a cut because I wonder if he had to like if he
freaked out for a second, right, You know?
I I wonder what happened between him being right next to Robyn
and then cut and he's 20 feet away.
They do. They were acting like they knew
it was wrong from the get go. Like the rushing out of the
house, the doors closed. Well, they were trying to hide
it. So I'm not sure what would have
been said by production to trigger any other response, but
there was a little break there and he just.
It's just gross. It's just gross.
What law is he violating? What ethical line is he
crossing? I don't know if there's a line
that's crossed in any way other than from the perspective of
Christine not wanting her husband to kiss someone while
she's giving birth that he's not married to.
That's it, right? No, I mean no, no.
No, no, that's not it, OK. He shouldn't have left the
fucking hospital. Oh, well, yeah, OK, yes, yes of.
Course, I mean even if there were things he needed, turns out
he has a shit ton of people that could have brought that to him.
Right. He did not need to leave that
hospital. No, he didn't.
That was ridiculous. And he left that hospital to
visit his girlfriend. Because this is it.
It seems fairly early on since Robyns moved there, right?
So it's probably still just super exciting that he can like
drop by and see her any day. So he's like, oh shit, this
other one giving birth is really getting in the way of me
visiting my girlfriend. So he made-up an excuse to
fucking go home. He could have gone home later
that night after the baby was already there.
He could have had any of the other wives bring his shit.
They have things of his at all of their houses.
They could have packed him a bag, Right, Right.
Certainly there were other options than for him to leave
the fucking hospital to kiss Robyn.
Right after Christine's already been induced.
Yeah, this is not good. Oh man, it's like I feel like
trying to pay attention to the details of what was happening.
I overlooked the like just basics that you should maybe not
overlooked but underplayed the leaving in general.
Yeah, don't fucking leave the whose husband leaves the
hospital after you've been induced.
The bad ones, the bad husbands. To change their clothes.
Literally the bad ones. Gross.
Literally the bad ones. 100 if I was giving birth.
Oh no. Absolutely not.
So then they do. We see Aspen is at the hospital
with mom and she's 15 and she says she's there for the birth.
We don't really get details on what that means.
She's kind of totally a 15 year old with like the haircut and
the cell phone. And she's like, yeah, mom's
giving birth. Like she's totally a 15 year
old. She kind of made this comment
like, yeah, I mean, I guess I think I'm old enough to be in
the room and watch my mom give birth and then maybe had a
moment of like, why am I right? Should I be doing this like I
you know it? Was cute.
It was pretty cute. And then they cut over to
Robyn's new home where all the younger daughters are playing
with dolls and dollhouse. And she's talking about how her
dad made it for her and the kids seem to be having a good time.
It's it's a cute moment hesitation.
Well, first of all, Robyn and this house full of children is
like mass chaos. There is just things happening
everywhere. And so it's kind of hard to even
pay attention to what they're doing because there's just
things all over the place. They did do the Barbie thing.
And they were, they had four girl Barbies and one boy Barbie.
And so they were pretending that each one was one of the wives.
And then obviously Kody, they were like, like one of them held
up a doll and was like, my name is Christine.
And I like it was cute. Like, you know, they were
definitely just playing Barbies, but pretending it was their
family. And it was, yeah, cute.
Yeah, one of the clips they had, one of the kids was holding
Kody, the doll, who kissed Christine good morning and then
Meri good morning. And they were like, in the same
room. And I think one of them was in
bed. And I was like, oh, like, I was
just thinking about the doll playing.
That happened when I was a kid. And all of a sudden they'd all
be like, stripped off with clothes and making, like, body
contact and doing things like that.
Oh, my God. Apparently these young girls
were raised differently than me. Well, I think there are some
differences. But I just didn't see anyone
stripping down, you know, getting someone pregnant so that
they can have a baby. That was not happening in the
dollhouse. Well, they probably have coached
them that they can't do that for the cameras.
Oh yes, I'd love to see Gwendolyn talking about the
birds and the bees with Barbie dolls.
So Robyn was talking about the Barbies and all of the things,
and there was one big thing that stood out and it was her
T-shirt. I did notice her clothing this
episode as well. Her pink T-shirt with silver
sequinned Angel wings like Oh my God I it looks like a 12 year
old's T-shirt. Very juvenile.
It was not OK. I'm going to give her a little
bit of credit because towards the end of the episode, when the
whole family joins them at the hospital, she did change clothes
before she went to the. Hospital.
Did she look over 12? She did OK good.
Yes, it was a little more appropriate, but that shirt was
something she really did look like the teenage babysitter.
Like last episode we talked about her appearance and how it
is very juvenile. It is very young.
She looked like a teenage babysitter and she had the hair
in the ponytails and like a headband and all this it there
was something weird. Yeah, and the kids all running
around, there was that chaotic energy.
And she, you know, references brown chaos at some point in
time. And, like, good for her.
Whatever. You ain't a brown yet, girl.
But at the end of the day, she did.
I picked up babysitter vibes and maybe it was the combination of
apparel and the chaos, but the way the kids are doing whatever,
it felt very much like someone who didn't have control.
Like she ordinarily, I shouldn't say ordinarily she did just move
there. How long ago we don't know.
But it seemed like maybe the kids were there for the first
time or the second time or something.
Like it was very babysitter. Very babysitter.
It was, yes. I don't think that she has shown
any authority yet in this family and is probably the fun one, and
it's probably not conducive to getting any of them in line,
right? Yeah, to be fair, it didn't look
like anyone was misbehaving. No, it was fine.
It was just. Like.
I can't imagine cleaning that fucking house after like I it
was stressing me out just watching it.
Yeah, there was a. Lot of stressing me out.
Kody had another couple of super fun moments in the delivery
room, right? What was your favorite?
My favorite Kody moment after coming back from home from his
new home was when he asked the doctor about in vitro
fertilization for his other wife.
And the doctor, well, he didn't say for his first other wife at
first. So he just asked about in vitro
and the doctor seemed confused. And then he had his classic Kody
moment where he got to be like, I have another wife and she's
only had one. And the doctor's like, oh, she
only has one. I was going to say fallopian
tube. I don't know what uterus, no.
Ovary, Ovary. Please forgive the gay man.
OK? She only has one ovary.
Then Kody's like no, she only has one child.
Like Oh my God. He just loves being obtuse and
then being like, oh, I get to explain things because I'm so
unique and crazy. Well.
And then his next question was like, yeah, but it's pretty
expensive, isn't it? Like he's just worried about the
money. And he's like, Sir, the Doctor
is not the one. He's like, will you pitch me on
your in vitro services right here, right now?
Give me a spiel in front of my wife who is giving birth.
This is not the wife I want to talk about like I'm here.
Do you have any deals? You got any coupons?
Right 2. Fers. 2 fers.
Two Fers. I've got at least two we can
knock up right here, right now. Unbelievable.
It's. Also, so Janelle had gotten home
from work, right? And she was waiting for the
updates from everybody. And so she did a little, she had
her own spotlight. Janelle did.
She had, I don't think it's, I still don't think it's the same.
But Janelle did talk to the camera for about a minute and
she was heading over to Robyn's house because they were all
going to wait together for the official news that the baby has
arrived, right? And Janelle walks out and her
car window is like, I don't even think it was duct tape, Chris.
It was like it. Was like packing.
Tape. Yeah, like all taping up her
window in the weirdest fashion too.
I can't quite pinpoint what problem it's addressing.
The engineering to me consider that this is a Janelle window of
a Janelle car in a Janelle home in a Janelle world.
So that's what it is. There is packing tape, clear
packing tape, going over the top of the frame of the door so it's
both in and out, and then side tape taping the window to that.
Yeah, it's like AU shaped. Yes.
Because there was over the window.
There was two things over the window.
I figured it out. OK, they have it taped up like
that over the window and it's probably taped the exact same
way on the inside because the window kept falling down.
Yes, and it's now taped up in place. 100%.
That's what it is, yes. I do think it's funny because
Kody is such a, you know, burly man from Wyoming and he's just
Mister Man and takes care of everything, that his wife has a
window that is taped from the inside and outside so that it
doesn't fall into the door. Well, sometimes Kody is not
around. You got to do stuff by yourself.
So what? Christine said.
Christine putting in a dryer vent and mastering it, probably.
And then Janelle's like taped up the window.
It's all good. He's like great going to
Robyn's. Have a good day.
I can't blame her. Do I know how to fix a window in
a car door? Absolutely not.
And have I had to tape 1 before? Yes.
Did it look like that? That looked like that Didn't
look like A1 dayer. That looked like this is how my
car is. Now, I think I probably would
have done it differently, but the window was being held up.
It was and it was again. I'm curious.
I, I hope we get to see it again and maybe we'll pause.
I don't think again. I don't think it's worth going
back for a rewind, right? However, maybe we look at this
clue. We'll report back if we have
additional information on what was happening with the window.
So we are the Janelle of podcasting, OK?
We started a podcast. We're telling you what's going
on. We're not gonna, like, figure
out what this shit is or how it works.
No, absolutely not. But, you know, shout out to
Janelle's taped up car window. We, you know, respect.
You are seen. Again, Janelle just truly is
Janelle right? Like she she just so sure is so
sure is so. Her car window was great.
I had another moment of irritation with Kody in the
delivery room. OK, Yeah.
Where he is just standing there looking so proud of himself,
like he's like at the foot of the bed with his arms crossed.
I think he had maybe just texted Robyn, like baby's almost here
or whatever, right? It was after, it was after the
other moment, but a different one.
He's standing there and he just has this look of pride on his
face. And there's something about it
that gives like, manly man, look at me.
I, I had a baby. Like I created this baby.
This is me. I did this right.
I created this miracle. Of he planted that seed.
He planted that seed and you know, it takes away.
I don't think he's sitting there thinking even for one single
second. Look at my wife who and by the
way, I think this is also probably a crime of most men,
but looking at my wife and saying she just grew this in her
in her belly. She grew this baby in her belly
and is now pushing it out into the world and he's sitting there
thinking about himself. Garen fucking teed he.
Is Yeah, he definitely was. Yeah.
Oh man, coming from the perspective of a woman, life is
very upset about that. Perfect.
Yes, thank you. Yes, especially a child
birthing. Woman Yes, this is it, a child
birthing woman as I am. I I also noticed that Christine
is quite calm. She is not doing the yelling and
the screaming and the movie scene thing.
She is seemingly concentrated on her breathing, listening to
people going through the process.
The epidural seems to have worked for her.
She is breathing and pushing. She loved that shit.
She loved that epidural. She did, yeah.
Yeah, she she was very happy until she gets to the point
where she's actually starting to push and then her face looks
like it's going to explode, like she looks like she's going to
blow. Yeah, it was a little bit
dramatic for not very long. Other than that, it was fairly
fairly calm. But yeah, then.
She has the baby and it's just kind of what you would expect.
I mean, they pull the baby out, baby cries, people are excited.
They bring Aspen over to see the the new baby truly.
And she says that she only saw the head come out and then she
didn't want to see anymore or she looked away.
Seems reasonable. I don't.
I've never watched a head come through a vagina, have you?
Yes. Oh yeah.
Yes, I have OK my nephew. OK, Yeah.
And I think that is, I think people that are in a delivery
room are going to have one of two reactions.
And it is what Aspen chose to do.
Like I'll watch to an extent, but there's some stuff that I I
can't see to the flip side. It's I've seen this much, I may
as well just see the rest, right?
Like, what? What's stopping at this point,
you know? So yeah, it is interesting.
It was funny because you said she had the baby and then the
baby cried, but there was a delay, like the baby wasn't
crying. And it didn't seem like it was a
very long time at all. But in that moment, like in the
delivery room, those seconds feel like minutes.
Right. Like it feels like, so 5 seconds
feels like you're just staring there forever.
Like why isn't, why isn't she crying?
Why isn't she crying? You know, that kind of thing.
So yeah, it was obviously totally fine and all of that.
But yeah, it was just, there was even that time that's so brief
waiting for that baby to cry. It's just like, yeah, you know.
So yes. But all was well, everybody was
happy and healthy. So did that remind you of
anything for yourself? Like when you gave birth, was
there any moment of panic for you?
Post the babies out. Oh, interesting, no?
OK, OK. No, like epidural happened, baby
came out. I don't think there was ever
anything crazy there. OK now for me it was more so
crazy that my water broke two days before.
I didn't know it. That was dramatic, but other
than that? Right.
Always good. OK, OK.
Yeah. I've never waited for a baby to
cry in a room like that's not never experienced that.
I know, I know it is, and it does.
Like watching it gave me flashbacks to being in that
situation, being the person watching and thinking, 'cause
you know, when babies are born, they don't come out with that
like normal colored skin either, right?
They're more red colored or purple or blue colored.
And it definitely didn't look like that baby had the like,
oxygen flow that it had needed for the last little bit.
But that's normal, right? But yeah, just interesting
because those it it in it, it is so much longer.
Yeah, totally, totally. I thought that it was cute to
see Kody and Christine and Aspen all seeming very happy and
overjoyed in the moment. Like those kind of moments are
weird that there's a camera crew there.
Like, obviously these people are relatively new at filming,
haven't shared probably a lot of vulnerable moments in that kind
of way. And so I think, you know, kudos
to Christine for going with it. It was nice to see everyone
genuinely happy. And like, there's something so
great about those moments when a baby comes out and everyone's
just like, holding on them and being all like, oh, that's so
cute. Yeah, I mean, not to be cheesy,
but it is a miracle, you know? Like it truly is, and oh, truly
it. Truly.
Is that was completely, completely unintentional and
well played I must say, if I do say so myself.
I know I want to take that one away from you.
I'm like, girl, truly. But that was good.
That was good. Yeah, and then they haul all
these 20 fucking people to the hospital to see this baby.
Yeah, yeah, whole fam. Damley comes to see the baby.
It's night time. I don't know what I just to me
seemed like it wasn't like a bustling environment.
It's like they came in the evening of the hospital, 20
people, they say 20 people. I don't know how many people
there actually were. I was literally trying to count.
I just thought of like the person at like the reception
desk that's just watching all these people walk in, like,
where are they coming from and what is going on right now?
Yeah, you know, yeah. It was like a marching band
coming in. Yeah, it was a lot of people.
You had mentioned something about this earlier too, but as
they are all walking into the hospital, this is when Sabin
Robyn says Brown. Chaos is very special.
Oh. Yeah, yeah, she, you know, it is
chaos, but it's brown chaos and that's special, you know, like.
She's already brought it on board.
She's part of it. She knows it, she feels it.
They helped her move. I hate her.
Yeah, it's definitely like, I wonder in that moment too, if
any of the other wives were what like in that moment having like
territorial things or, you know, being like, you're not even part
of this family or something. Like when she says things like
that, like I wonder what their knee jerk reactions are because
it's like you're it's like they're open to this happening,
but she's not already part of the like, she's not part of the
family. She isn't married to them.
But they're like, oh, opening like every, it's so blurred.
It's so blurred. I agree with that.
And yeah, I guess we don't really get, at least up until
this point, any perspective from them about this moment and Robyn
being involved. Like we, we haven't, we haven't
gotten any of that yet. And I think we just get like
little snippets here and there kind of but.
Has not been much discussion at all about how any other wives
feel about Robyn and her children being there yet.
Do you recall that? I don't think there was any
conversation about and. That's what we were saying in
the last episode even it like it's all broad statements.
Well get here already, be here already and watch Have a party
with the kids while I give birth.
I mean, I feel like as a person, if someone was dating my husband
and being all like, oh, the thing about their family is just
the way it is and it's special, I'd be, I'd be like, you know,
you're not like I'd have, I'd have a feel about that.
I'd have a feel about it. I think that maybe part of the
reason there isn't at least an Outward 1 yet that we've seen is
that at this point they are getting married in eight weeks,
right? Like this wedding is happening.
They are not at a point that something's going to change
that. And because she's moved now five
hours to be with them, I think she kind of has to be in the mix
of everything. I think they want to foster her
being in the mix to start creating their new normalcy.
I don't know that they ever get to the new normal CPS, by the
way, but I think that's what they're trying to do that.
Makes sense. And you know, yeah, you got to
like look on the bright side and do all that shit or whatever.
Lean into the things that are already happening because.
And then Christina's eating a doughnut almost immediately post
childbirth. She's in there.
When that whole scene between her, Kody and Aspen are in
there, She's like chowing on a doughnut.
I'm like, yes, you get it. I love the stories of people
with their food after giving birth.
And then there is some more talking head like on the couch
moments and Meri says something along the lines of that she
always thought she'd have lots of babies and how she hasn't,
but now because of this family, she does have a lot of babies or
children. Keeping on that thread of Meri's
having one child, never had any more.
They keep circling back to that and it feels to me like she's
sad about it and masking it just kind of like it is what it is.
And has she adjusted to that? Probably not because these
people are in a cult and she probably needs a lot of therapy.
But she's OK with it now because of all the kids around.
But I don't think she is. I think part of what is going to
continue to come out in a sense is that, well, let me rephrase
that. I think that part of what's
happening right now is that Meri is starting to panic and know
that she is now going to watch this fourth wife have multiple
more babies. Like, she was probably thinking
she was on the edge of being done watching additional babies
being born. So she must go through these
feelings just every single time. Yeah.
You know, another wife has a baby.
Yeah. So this is time number what, 12
that she's experienced this and has that reminder over the last
how many years? You know, that's a lot.
And so I think there is that on top of it.
Maybe she thought she was almost done with that.
But then also younger, newer model coming in fertile Myrtle
going to start popping those babies out, you know, and she's
having feels about it for sure. So I can totally understand
that. Janelle also said at one point,
like they might have still been in the hospital room at this
point. I don't think it was in the
interview, but she she said, well, she was holding on to the
baby and she's like, well, I just grab on to any of the
babies. I just treat them all like
they're my babies from day one. They're all my babies.
And so that's a theme. Like that's definitely something
that at least these first three wives, you know, they consider
all of these children their children.
It's obviously different for Meri than than Janelle, but it
was that's their mentality is that they are all wanted all
together at this point and with the new baby coming in, I think
you still feel that short of the father disappearing from the
delivery room to run home and see his girlfriend.
Well, he had to change his shirt and he had to give his
girlfriend a kiss. Jesus Christ.
Christ, Oh my gosh. And then did you have any other
thoughts about the very end of the episode?
OK, so the very end truly as a baby, they've got truly as a
baby in the crib and they're showing this baby off and they
did show the face at the end and I was like that true.
That baby is truly, that baby is truly like, the face is like, Oh
my God, it's so truly. Yeah, I thank God they weren't
actually like switched at birth at the hospital or something.
That would have been an awkward start to a hospital birth.
But really, the the thing that I love the most was that Gwendolyn
carried truly into her crib. And just like I'm not saying
dropped because she didn't drop her, but I'm going to use the
word plopped her in that crib like that baby was just again,
not dropped, but it was not the most careful of laying down.
And the newborn? It made me chuckle.
Sounds like good first day in that family.
Like, oh, you were plopped into the plopped into your best net
or whatever plopped into your crib.
But also like so Gwendolyn was probably told to go put the baby
in the crib at at in front of the camera, right?
Like she's probably told to go do this and then she does that
and it's not recognized by anyone as well.
My other kid just dropped this baby in the crib.
Like what are we doing, guys? What are we doing?
Come on, it's. Also very on brand for Gwendolyn
I must say. 150%. All right, and this episode, our
keep sweet moment comes to us from Melissa on TikTok, and we
did a video talking about Meri's clothes from the first episode,
her little house on the Meri. Little house on the Meri.
Yes, Melissa says your profile picture is chef's kiss emoji.
I love that. Well, it is it is a great, great
photo. Oh, thank you, Melissa.
And it is and it is. It's a right now for season 1,
we have Kody Brown with some other children that are not his
biological children in a photo that never existed but was made
at some point in time. And so we thanked her and said
it was a precious moment. We can't wait to revisit on our
rewatch because we will see that moment later.
Oh my gosh, I can't wait. So who is your mustard seed this
week? How about Gwendolyn for being so
helpful with her baby sister? That's great.
I think that's that's what I'm going to go with.
Good job, Gwendolyn. She really leaned in in that big
sister role. She sure did.
Took care of her. Watch how that continues.
Her baby sister. Yeah.
Yes, OK, Mustard seed for Gwendolyn.
I'm going to do mustard seed for who gets them.
I'm going to give mustard seed to Christine because she did
have good spirits about her throughout that entire birth
thing seemed to handle everything well.
There was even a point where it did look physically like and she
still kept good spirits about her.
So I'm giving her my mustard seed.
Well. I guess maybe she was the
obvious mustard seed. Could she birth a whole baby?
Like my bad. Sorry Christine, you did deserve
that one. But at least you got recognized
by Chris, so. That was pretty cliche of me.
Oh, the woman who gave birth is the mustard seed.
Well. Thanks for procreating.
Yep, thank you, thank you, Shit stain.
Shit stain. I wonder who you're going to
pick. Well, I think it's kind of
obvious. I mean, I just see now if we had
our cork board, we could start tallying these to see who's
winning. OK, yes, I don't know that we
need to tally to know that Kody Brown is going to win.
Shit stain. Overall I'm quite positive.
Well, he might be. You never know.
We've got sobbing Robyn in there.
We don't. Well.
Yeah, yeah. I think it's much more likely
it's it's three times more likely that it'll be Kody.
I agree and. Yeah, I think that he gets the
shit stain for the week because he didn't leave the hospital for
any reason other than to see his girlfriend convince me
otherwise. OK.
I think that that is true shit stain for me.
Clearly Kody is a shit stain. But you know what?
I'm going to give Janelle my shit stain this week because
that window tape job not acceptable.
All right, OK. Acceptable.
Now is it acceptable? Yeah, but not acceptable.
Well, I mean, as a real human being, we understand that
sometimes we have to tape our windows, OK?
Like we that does happen. As a human being that's
currently being recorded on a reality TV show, we could have
tried a little harder. There is this pattern of, you
know, there are people filming you.
You know that spotlight on you right now, like hello.
And that said, with spotlight, that's right.
Like literally the crew following you with a light and
like blinding. You it was dark outside.
Yes, it was night time and like your window reflection and the
tape was shiny and see through it was.
And you know, Janelle, it said with love, you know I love you,
but girl, you are my shit stain this week.
I cannot wait to see what happens with this window.
What if the next time there's we see it, she has a different car
and it's like, oh God damn it. Actually the real question is
how many times was the car on video that they chose not to use
right? Like now that could have been a
funny montage, so. Yes, and how long was the tape
on the window? We need a timeline.
Yes, actually we may create one. We may, we'll workshop that, and
if anyone wants to do a leaderboard of our shit stain
and mustard seed, feel free to let us know where it lives so
that we can login or no logins. No logins.
It needs to be publicly accessible and we'd be glad to
look at it every once in a while while recording our own show to
see what who the leaderboard is in Mustard Seed and shit's name.
Let's be really specific with our request.
If after every episode, you could give us a tally of where
we're at in the comments after every episode, yes.
Leaderboard update. Yeah.
And then just give us the numbers.
Then we'll then now caveat, you have to come back next week,
tally it again. Don't be as terrible as us at
doing this. Like actually be on top of it,
please. Thank you very much because.
We know we're not workshopping yet.
No. Well, we're still workshopping
many things. We've got a lot of workshopping
too. That's.
Why I think we need the cork board.
We'd have a lot of workshopping and, you know, thank you
everyone for joining us for another episode where we filled
your heart and your soul and your life with magic and wonder
and knowledge and useless information.
What do you think? Do you think we helped anyone
this week? Do you think we helped anyone?
Well, I'm going to go with no.
Oh. I do, I think we entertained
anyone. Hopefully that's really all
we're asking for, to be honest with you.
But I will I, I would leave with parting words.
And that is just, you know, reminding us all that the brown
chaos is very special. And so that is why we're here.
That is why we're here. We are entertaining people.
Yes. OK.
Well, thank you everyone for joining us.
And I think that's about enough for today.
Good night, good night, and thanks for putting up with us.
God bless. God bless.
Amen.