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OK, how are we going to talk 
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Because what's odd is probably 
both of our mothers are watching

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right now, and it's even weirder
for you because it's your mother

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and your grandmother. 
Mom, we interviewed a pornstar. 

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Now on with the show. 
I don't know if we're 

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broadcasting, we can only 
houlch. 

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Yeah, I'm checking right now to 
see if we are. 

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Let's see who the first people 
in will be today. 

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Annie, who's first? 
It's going right? 

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Well, at least it works when you
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Yeah, right. 
I hope the good people can hear 

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us. 
Who's the 1st bodies? 

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Let's see. 
Who's coming in? 

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Who's going to be first today? 
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or something for, you know, I'll
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yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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After Instagram's got some, 
Instagram's got a couple. 

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Oh, what up, what up? 
Cheryl Traceia Sullivan, first 

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one in. 
Hopefully she stays and didn't 

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just like what the fuck is this 
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Yeah, right. 
She's like, boy, these guys. 

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These Dicks, it's. 
Creepy. 

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They're not. 
They're like, they look old. 

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When are they talking about old 
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about? 
Old people stuff we're talking 

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about. 
You know, denture creams and. 

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How to properly use AQ tip? 
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It's like talk about the phone 
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book. 
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Dude that was so funny. 
I know that was funny. 

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That was funny. 
That was like phone book. 

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I forgot those existed. 
Would you even find one to? 

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Use like what you know it would 
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book. 
Imagine imagine a haunted phone 

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book, right? 
And when you randomly open it up

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and you point to a number, you 
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is dead. 
Time Oh Jesus, time keeper. 

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First one to show up in the on 
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Hello, welcome. 
It's like that was a double, 

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double punch. 
Robin, you're late. 

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It's a phone, Buck, you know. 
Yeah, it's. 

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A phone buck. 
I get it. 

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I get it. 
I get it. 

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Everyone's probably dead in it. 
Not everybody, but you know. 

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They're coming in slow. 
They're coming in. 

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Robin was slow today. 
She's usually Robin's, usually 

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first, our friend Robin Brewer. 
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Not today. 
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That's all right. 
We won't hold it against her. 

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Nope. 
All right, everybody, we don't 

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have a guest today. 
But what we do have is a lot of,

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we got a lot of news to get 
through. 

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We got a lot of news. 
How you call your ex? 

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There you go. 
Oh yeah. 

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Look, we got time keeper, we got
HD Mystical meow. 

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Oh, I like that. 
You know all these names, Do 

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they recognize all of them? 
Yeah, the regular. 

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The regulars? 
Yep. 

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The regulars. 
The regulars. 

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Tabby. 
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We don't have a guest. 
So how about, how about the 

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people? 
Be the guest, you know, we'll 

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talk to everybody. 
We'll talk to them, but we got 

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we got news. 
We got to get the news out. 

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Oh. 
We got some news. 

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We got some paranormal news, big
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This just in. 
Everything's striking big. 

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News. 
Lots of news, lots of paranormal

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news coming in. 
Everybody check your stations. 

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You got to get ready for it. 
Get them all. 

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It's hot paranormal news. 
But First off, let me tell you 

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who, if you're just tuning in, 
welcome to Splintered Spirits. 

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I'm your host, Gary. 
This is John Santa from Santa 

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Paranormal. 
We try to answer the question, 

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what are spirits? 
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about that this week. 
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talk about the past and then 
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the future as we do. 
And the paranormal is we dropped

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a big new episode this week with
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watch talking about. 
I was thinking about like, OK, 

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how are we going to talk about 
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Because what's odd is probably 
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right now. 
And it's even weirder for you 

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How do we talk about Aubrey 
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I think we should just be 
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straightforward. 
Grandma, Mom, we interviewed a 

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porn star. 
An adult film *. 

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An adult film *. 
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Kid it, that's what it is, isn't
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Oh. 
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I'd hope it. 
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she is like. 
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She was so great. 
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everything we talked about, oh, 
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And it fits into the plan. 
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of left field. 
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was a really fun get and a fun 
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of sexual energy. 
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the basis of everything. 
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everybody up to change the 
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which is incredible. 
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I hope you check it out. 
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you walked away from, from all 
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interviewed is have you, is 
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changed any perspective of, of a
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perspective of a thing from any 
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everything that they've 
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knowledge that they bring to the
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it doesn't matter, you know, 
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or what they believe in. 
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the human experience of it, 
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And two, I love to compare data,
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I love to compare data. 
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let's say, you know, they say 
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go, OK, I've come across this. 
I know what they're talking 

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about. 
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saying it, it's, you know, it's 
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Do their belief structure, their
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Scientifically and logically, 
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know, it's the same result. 
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an example? 
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an example because it's like 
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dropped yet, but the one that's 
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take me a minute to think of 
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talking about Sean? 
You talking about Sean Austin's?

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So we, we, we have Sean Austin 
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He's been on television shows. 
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under Ralph Sarchi, you know, 
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who did a lot of exorcisms and 
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He's got that app, the SPI app 
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And he's a, he's just, he's an 
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and he has a, you know, a 
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Take it away, John. 
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was speaking about heaven and 
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We were getting this discussion 
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their own heaven house, if you 
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actions when they were, you 
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and what they did. 
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know, he's he's religious, you 
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You know, he might interpret it 
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was still, hey, you know, the 
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know, their heaven and their 
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And it's funny because, you 
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the same thing many, many times.
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There's a perfect example. 
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a while. 
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It's going to be later. 

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That's a prime example. 
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there spirits based on this 
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Do you dig in a little deeper or
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regiment. 
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basic cool questions without 
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connection, losing the 
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call it. 
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through quite strong, that's 
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that I normally don't ask. 
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the lines of I haven't even 
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that makes any sense. 
What's the most recent spirit 

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you've had a long term Q&A with 
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Any new recent ones, especially 

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now that we go into the Shanley 
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I'm trying to definitely, Oh, 
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Shanley more, you know more has 
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The new Edward, is he the new 

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Edward? 
I mean, listen, when I go to the

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Shanley, he might as well be. 
Definitely more pain in the ass 

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spirit there, you know? 
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are dropping, we did a little, 
we had a little fun at the 

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Shanley. 
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communication with with Ghost 
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So Google. 
Ghost fire. 

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So we brought that back and we 
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you, Netzel and Brian the Mod. 
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see who we can talk to with 
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Ghost fire. 
Which is going to be a fun one, 

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except for except for this, it's
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podcast episode because it's 
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most of the podcast people 
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right? 
So it's not going to really work

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sitting there listening. 
It's more laughter than 

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anything. 
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I mean, it's weird, but there's 
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for us, but it's going to be 
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Our full Ghost Fire, Ghost Fire 
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YouTube exclusively for members.
And I'm dropping some clips here

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and there if you want to get a 
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and we talk about this was a 
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Yeah. 
Is that the one where we heard 

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to the left? 
You guys heard to the right. 

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Yeah, and I thought it was a cat
and you guys thought. 

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It was a child. 
I thought it was a little girl. 

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Yep, and that was weird. 

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Really weird. 
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little things. 
The experience that we all heard

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something I think was the the 
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We couldn't agree on what we 
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from, which is also wild, which 
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discussion of the person, right?
Whatever was happening, whatever

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anomaly was happening there, we 
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Yeah. 
I mean, you definitely hear the 

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Pareidolian a lot of it, right? 
Like it's fun. 

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It's fun to play it back and 
hear it. 

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I mean, you know, you and Brian 
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instinct goes to like and 
sometimes it's very clearly 

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John, you know, like there's one
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times Brian definitely hears 
John a lot. 

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It's always John. 
It's a good and we love you 

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Brian, but it's always John. 
It's like he's always hearing 

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John come through and it makes 
sense, right? 

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That's what's on his mind. 
You know he's hanging out with 

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you all the time and it and it 
comes through it's but it was 

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fun. 
It was really interesting to do 

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it. 
All the country music come that 

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come came through I. 
Didn't hear the country music? 

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See the twangs? 
Yeah, I didn't. 

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Hear the twangs. 
I didn't hear any of that when 

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you were saying it. 
I was like, all right. 

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I was like, I thought you were 
just busting Netzel's balls, you

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know? 
No, no I didn't. 

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Hear. 
I didn't hear any of those 

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twangs, any of the country 
music, nothing. 

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Yeah, like, you know, we have, 
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from Texas and we're hearing, 
we're hearing country twangs. 

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So that was interesting, you 
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But anyway, that drops Tuesday 
in another big piece of 

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paranormal news from Splintered 
Spirits. 

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So that was the that's the the 
future. 

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That's the future of the past 
and the future in there. 

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That's right. 
But what about the present? 

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Well, we just talked about that.
We talked about what we just did

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really with the. 
Past, present and future. 

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And we're going to get, we're 
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future because following that 
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because Ghost Fires, Ghost 
Fire's biggest thing, Ghost 

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Fire, Ghost Fire's biggest thing
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That is the heart of it. 
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So that's in two weeks. 
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another bit of information. 
John, you did a podcast that's 

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going to drop on the 20 on 4/20.
I wonder if that's coincidental 

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You're one with Ghost Gossip 

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with Ashley from Ghost Gossip. 
That's right. 

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That drops. 
Yeah, that was fun. 

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That was. 
What's today? 

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Today's the 16th so that drops 
Monday guys. 

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Monday. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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So if you don't know Ashley, 
there's a little clip right and 

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you can ship file. 
You should follow Ghost gossip 

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247. 
We had her on our podcast and 

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then John went and did an 
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It was a good it was a really 
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So there she is right there and 
I and how was your tell us about

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tell us about this interview. 
What can you give? 

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Give us a little cheese. 
It was fun. 

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It was just listen, we talk 
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everything, you know, and when 
you know, when she said to us, 

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when we had her on and she said 
to us, the way she runs her, you

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know, a podcast is very casual. 
You know, it really is. 

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Yeah, she is 100% correct. 
It was, it was, it was really 

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good. 
It was, it was really good. 

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I enjoyed being on the podcast. 
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telling her this too one that 
that picture of her is amazing. 

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Whoever took that picture is 
dope. 

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Like it's great shot of her. 
It's. 

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The whole shot her, the 
background you. 

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Know yeah, her studio's great. 
She's got a look, she's got a 

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vibe, right? 
The purple, the color scheme, 

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the brand, she's got this whole 
casual thing going on. 

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She's a joy to talk to you. 
She's really good casual. 

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Like you said, it feels like 
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out with you right getting 
that's why it's I guess that's 

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why she's called the ghost cuts 
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sitting there just talking about
the T, you know what I mean? 

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Hey Jackie, thank you very much 
for those super chat. 

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Yes, and. 
Thank you, Jackie. 

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Perfect. 
And not to mention, I got to 

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imagine that there's some 
Italian Renaissance sculptor 

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flipping in his grave, wishing 
they could, like, carve those 

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cheekbones of hers into granite 
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there's something out of. 
I mean, check her out, dude. 

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It's crazy. 
It's like you could like, her 

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face, like, sculpted. 
Can you see the picture I have 

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up or no? 
Yes, I can. 

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OK, yeah. 
I mean, it's crazy. 

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It's a great picture. 
Anyway, she's really fun. 

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That drops Monday, 4/20. 
John Santa on Ghost Gossip 247. 

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We're a fan of her. 
She's a fan of the show. 

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Everybody should check that out.
It'll be great. 

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A lot of fun to do and and I 
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it. 
Right then the next so much it's

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like what order do I tell it in?
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and then Dwight. 
Do we even have a live next 

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week? 
John, we do. 

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Let me see, do we have a guest 
in the live let? 

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Me. 
Take a look. 

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Hold on, I'll tell you if we do,
I think. 

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I think it was just this week we
didn't have a guest. 

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This week we don't, but I'm 
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got a guest. 
I barely. 

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Remember my you know I can 
remember what I'm doing here. 

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No, no guests. 
We got no guests on the next two

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lives. 
But then we've got, Oh my God, I

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forgot about all these. 
We've got News 12 coming back, 

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Christy Reeder talking about 
haunted tri-state, all those 

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places. 
One of those places being the 

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Shanley Hotel, which is now your
new haunt. 

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Then we've got Hollyweird 
Paranormal. 

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Another Tammy from Hollyweird 
out here. 

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She's coming on. 
I want to get somebody in Lai 

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want to get more LA people since
I'm out here. 

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Then dude, you know, we've got 
we've got Tessa and Nick Groff 

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coming on. 
I mean, I mean, these are big 

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names. 
And it's like for the in this 

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paranormal world, if you don't 
know who Tessa grew. 

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Up in people, they're just, both
of them were just, yeah. 

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And Nick gets. 
Beautiful people, what a great 

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what a we had such a great 
interview with the both of them.

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Yeah, it was fun. 
It was done separately, so it's.

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Separately, 2 episodes. 
So we got, yeah, we got over 

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over 2 hours with those guys and
they're, they're really fun. 

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Really just, I mean, Jesus 
Christ, Nick is one of the, you 

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know, if for most of the young 
people out there in the 

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paranormal, it's because of 
Nick. 

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Send him a thank you right now. 
Go send him a thank you. 

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Towards the end of May I will be
going up to Knicks premiere. 

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That's right, he's got a big 
movie. 

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Big Yep, he's got a big movie 
coming out and I believe it's 

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the demon Mark is the name and 
it's. 

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His devil's mark Devil. 
'S mark, the devil's mark, and 

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he we'll talk. 
About that more closer to the 

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day for sure guys. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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But I will be up there and 
checking out some places up 

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there as well. 
Point me a lot of directions to 

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when I get up there, where to go
and you know what to do. 

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We've got we've got that 
episode. 

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Remember Kelly Curtis, the 
future doctor death. 

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So the big study she did with, 
with people with death workers 

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and their experience with the 
paranormal, which is 

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fascinating. 
And Speaking of science, we did 

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another interview and that's 
going to air later in July with 

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Professor Brian Lathe. 
Oh, that's that. 

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Can't wait for that one and. 
When that, so when you guys hear

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that and here's the thing, man, 
John and I are going to be be 

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scientists now we're going to be
fellows. 

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We are going to we are going 
with with Professor Lathe, we 

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are going to put together yes, 
research, research, research. 

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We're going to be consulting 
research fellows. 

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We're going to be on these. 
These are going to be peer. 

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These are going to be legitimate
peer reviewed. 

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Studies we are. 
He and his colleagues with us 

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are going to be putting together
a survey. 

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We'll talk more about haunted 
people syndrome, everything 

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else. 
Which is not a disease. 

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It's not a disease. 
It is a, it's, it's a, it's, 

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these are legitimate 
parapsychologists and we are 

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going to help and we want when 
this gets loaded, you know 

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you'll be at 
splinterspirits.com. 

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You'll be able to fill out a 
survey, you'll be able to get 

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your own score. 
We are going to be gathering 

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information. 
This would be a paper writing up

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a a real study brought up to 
help not. 

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Bad. 
I didn't have the lights on, so 

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it's the kind of day it's been. 
No, I bet it's fine. 

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It's we see it all right. 
But anyway, it's legit. 

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We're scientists now. 
We're parapsychologists, legit 

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parapsychologists. 
Now we're going to be part of 

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this study. 
We are going to be published in 

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peer reviewed journals. 
And it's like, yeah, which is 

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fucking cool. 
And it's like, if you don't like

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it deep, suck it. 
I'm going to put I'm going to 

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add parapsychologist to my leg, 
you know, like, you know, as if 

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it were doctor or Esquire. 
I don't think it. 

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I don't think I can call myself 
a doctor like if someone was 

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choking on a plane, but if they 
were being possessed on a plane,

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maybe is there. 
Maybe there's something you 

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could do. 
So yeah, I'll tell you exactly 

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what Gary would do. 
Gary would go to the. 

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Come off the plane. 
Yo-yo, go to the cockpit, 

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whisper to the whisper to the 
the pilot and go take us down. 

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Right Oh, we have a possession 
on the plane. 

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I see No thank you. 
But anyway, look, this is going 

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to happen guys, so we hope if 
you we'll keep you posted. 

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We're months away. 
We're going to build we're 

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building this now we're building
a legit survey. 

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I know we're making jokes about 
it, but it's going to be a real 

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real it's going to be a real 
test review. 

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It's like we're making light of 
it. 

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Yeah, we're making light of it, 
but it's we don't take ourselves

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seriously. 
Everybody should know that by 

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now. 
But this is real. 

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This is going to be, you know, 
peer-to-peer reviewed. 

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This is going to be read by 
scientists, people that believe 

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in the paranormal, people that 
don't believe in the paranormal.

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We'll be published, dude. 
We'll be. 

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Published. 
We'll be published. 

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This will be a publication, so 
it's. 

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Going to be great. 
We've got yeah, man, it's going 

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to be dope. 
But anyway, that's another one. 

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That's another thing. 
We've got Angel Morgan, a pet 

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psychic. 
She gets a reading on my she 

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reads my dogs. 
That's coming up. 

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That's in June, correct? 
That's. 

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Going to be in June. 
Yeah, I'll drop that. 

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We'll drop that in June. 
The you know, Haley Michelle, 

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the paranormal Princess, which 
was so fun and light. 

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Yeah, she's a sweetheart. 
She's such a sweetheart. 

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That's in July and then that's 
what we'll get into 

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professional. 
So we've got, I mean, we are 

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loaded, locked and loaded due to
like almost the end of July with

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00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,080
stuff. 
It's crazy what's going on. 

451
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,440
And you know, you want to also 
talk about why are we getting 

452
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,520
such amazing guests, people of 
Earth, You know, you're talking 

453
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,680
to guys who are ranked. 
Now we're getting charted. 

454
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,960
Numbers. 
This is insane. 

455
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,120
John, can you think they can 
handle these numbers? 

456
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,640
I I think they can guys listen 
to this. 

457
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,080
This is actually really cool. 
This is when when Gary told me 

458
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,000
this today, you know I was 
already in a shit mood and it 

459
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,320
made my mood just a little 
better right and I was like, oh 

460
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,160
wow, that's an accomplishment 
and it's only up from here. 

461
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,440
There's no other direction. 
Let. 

462
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,560
Me pull up these numbers. 
The directions, we're just not 

463
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,560
heading there, you know we're 
going. 

464
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,360
Can you guys see that this is 
Apple podcast and we are on the 

465
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,640
spiritual, the spirituality 
charts. 

466
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,160
We, we are ranked 30 United 
States, we're ranked forty, 

467
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,080
Canada 95, New Zealand. 
We are killing it in Middle 

468
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:15,360
Earth, people killing it #2 
France 35, Columbia, Columbia 

469
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:16,760
drop. 
You know, I was trying to think 

470
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,920
of why Columbia would drop and I
have to imagine it's because of 

471
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,640
Jesus. 
The Latinos in Jesus probably do

472
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,720
not like what we talk about. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

473
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,160
Right. 
I mean, I think that's safe. 

474
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,960
I think that's safe to say 
they're very religious. 

475
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,640
That's. 
Just very wild, right? 

476
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,800
Those numbers are wild. 
Dude, these are great. 

477
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,200
We're getting ranked and let me 
tell you what, Let me what? 

478
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,040
Is there? 
What is there over over over 

479
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,920
2.5? 
Let me tell you, yeah, let me, 

480
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,560
let me explain to you what's 
going on guys. 

481
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,160
So you put these numbers in 
perspective, all right, on 

482
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,120
Apple, there are currently 
around 2.6 million podcasts on 

483
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,760
Apple. 
Let me say that again, there are

484
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,400
at least on Apple, 2.6 million 
podcasts. 

485
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,280
There's also about 20 
categories, right, That they're,

486
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,920
they're split into. 
So do the math, top 120 

487
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,840
categories out of 2.6 million, 
there's maybe 2000 ranked 

488
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,600
podcasts in the top 100 of their
given category, right? 

489
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Look at these numbers now into 
that light and see where we're 

490
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,880
at out of all of those podcasts.
And we just started about a 

491
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,160
little over a year ago when it 
comes to this category, 

492
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,480
spirituality, which I think is 
the best home for us. 

493
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,840
I don't think we're I think you 
know, a lot of people that do 

494
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,400
these podcasts, they are they 
put themselves in true crime 

495
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,720
because it's very similar 
audiences demographically, But I

496
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,000
think we might get nicked. 
I think if a true crime person 

497
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,360
came in our podcast, they go, 
there's no fucking crime here 

498
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,480
and they would probably give us 
bad reviews. 

499
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,400
So I don't, I don't think that's
we don't tell those stories 

500
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,560
here. 
Maybe we will one day when it's 

501
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,320
relevant. 
And you know, when we had Realm 

502
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,640
of Darkness on, we talked about 
true crime as because it was 

503
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,280
very paranormal related with 
them. 

504
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,560
But that's not, that's not 
really our bag, you know, So 

505
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,640
that's not where we went. 
So in this category, just to 

506
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,440
give you some perspective, 
right, there's usually well 

507
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,160
over, there's about 1000 
podcasts in any given nation at 

508
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,480
any given time. 
So that's where we're rank 

509
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,880
compared to about 1000 other 
people in each one of these 

510
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,760
countries, right? 
So in some places more, right, 

511
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,360
Canada's got about in 
spirituality, almost 1400 

512
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,120
podcasts in it. 
So not too bad. 

513
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,440
We didn't, this just started for
us. 

514
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,640
We just started to hit the 
charts by the way, guys. 

515
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320
And it fluctuates daily as new 
episodes come out. 

516
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,000
And then like, you know, weeks 
where we don't have a new 

517
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,920
episode, it doesn't really. 
But I got to thank, we got to 

518
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,480
thank you guys for this. 
You know what I mean? 

519
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,120
That's I couldn't believe it. 
I couldn't believe we hit the 

520
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:47,560
charts. 
Amazing. 

521
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,640
We hit the charts. 
So thank you for all the people 

522
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,600
that are listening. 
It's a really, I really 

523
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000
appreciate it. 
Thank you. 

524
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,640
Rhinestone Zone. 
Yeah, it's pretty cool, man. 

525
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,280
You know, it's working now. 
I hope it keeps working. 

526
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,520
But I think with some of these 
guests we got coming, you know, 

527
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,480
the more guests we got coming on
and I indeed, there's like three

528
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,960
other people I reached out to 
you today and I know you reached

529
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,440
out to somebody. 
We can't talk about them because

530
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,680
they're not signed yet. 
But it's like we're these are 

531
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,000
all, it's getting a little 
bitty. 

532
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,320
What's nice is it's getting a 
little easier to book. 

533
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:26,160
You know, at first it was like 
people are guarded and all these

534
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,960
things. 
And then it's now it's becoming 

535
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,080
like, oh, OK, I've heard of it. 
I think, I think more and more 

536
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,920
people are seeing the podcast, 
they're seeing the guests and 

537
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,800
they're seeing the way we speak 
to the guests. 

538
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,440
You know, we don't put anybody 
on trial. 

539
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,360
We don't. 
We don't dunk on anybody. 

540
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,280
We don't dunk. 
On anybody, we have, you know, 

541
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,160
very, very strict rules about 
how we operate ethically, you 

542
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,600
know, on this podcast and the 
questions are different, the 

543
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,920
questions are different. 
Gary puts a lot of work into the

544
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,160
questions he comes up with these
guests and and you know, I 

545
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,280
assess that situation and I ask 
the appropriate questions to 

546
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240
follow. 
And, and I think that regiment 

547
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,880
and the way that works, people 
are seeing and going, wow, this 

548
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,360
is great. 
These other podcasts don't make 

549
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,080
it easy to me to find original 
questions. 

550
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Let me tell you, I'm sitting out
there listening to these great 

551
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,880
interviews and these other 
people who have done it before. 

552
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,360
And I'm like, damn it, that was 
a good question. 

553
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,240
How am I going to? 
I can't ask the same damn 

554
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,520
question. 
They don't make it easy for me. 

555
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,320
So, you know, kudos to all the 
other groups and the and the 

556
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,160
people we've met with and that 
have crossed over with these 

557
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,640
guests before me. 
They've done great jobs and 

558
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,200
have, you know, helped us. 
But it's not easy, but it's fun.

559
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,640
It's been working. 
It's crazy. 

560
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,560
Yeah. 
Oh, and then dude, I went to the

561
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,680
Omen house. 
That's another episode. 

562
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080
So guys here, does everybody 
know what the Omen house is? 

563
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Oman, Oman, anyone, anyone. 
It'll probably take a second. 

564
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,920
We got a little lag here for the
chat, but the Omen house is on 

565
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,760
Cielo Drive here. 
It's a couple houses down from 

566
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,120
where the Manson murders 
happened in 19, six in the night

567
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,560
in the late 60s. 
And let me tell you, man, it was

568
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,280
so this this place has been on a
bunch of paranormal shows. 

569
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,040
A lot of people go there. 
A lot of investigators like to 

570
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,840
check it out. 
It's like riddled, it's 

571
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,880
apparently riddled with 
paranormal activity. 

572
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,320
He he believes he's on, you 
know, it's on Native American 

573
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,880
land, old Hollywood and the 
Manson tap thing happened right 

574
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,800
down the street. 
The owner is David Oman, very 

575
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,680
welcoming to us and to well to 
me and, and, and give me the 

576
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,280
full. 
It was very much like I did like

577
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,040
a haunted cribs episode too. 
It was like he gave me the tour 

578
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,880
and walked me through the house 
like, you know how he was 

579
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,280
feeling the spirits and where 
things happened and what he, 

580
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,680
what he did with it. 
And apparently because of the 

581
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,160
way that the architecture is, 
it's almost like a reverse 

582
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,680
Faraday cage. 
It's a, it's, I think Egon 

583
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Spengler would have called it 
like a, you know, an antenna for

584
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,480
the supernatural because the way
the cement and the, and the 

585
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,200
steel girders are deep into the 
Native American land and 

586
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,400
crossed, you know what I mean? 
It's like this energy EMF thing 

587
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,520
and a famous, a famous 
parapsychologist, Barry Taft, 

588
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,120
who I know very well, wrote 
numerous papers, studied that 

589
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,240
place like 20 times and it's 
natural EMF readings are off the

590
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680
charts. 
You know, it's like it's so the 

591
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920
house has this high energy to 
the point where Barry couldn't 

592
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,120
had to stop, He almost passed 
out from it. 

593
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,720
And Barry is somebody who, you 
know, one of the first ghost 

594
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,120
hunters you can you can talk 
about in modern times. 

595
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,000
You know what I mean? 
The entity case. 

596
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,600
Yeah. 
The entity case, if anybody saw 

597
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,640
that movie, the movie from the 
80s was based on his case, about

598
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:44,800
the woman who was being sexually
assaulted by a spirit based on 

599
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480
his research. 
Yeah, they all based on his 

600
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,480
research. 
So he, he start he he has been 

601
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,360
there and written papers on it. 
And you can find those papers at

602
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,800
his website, you know, at Barry 
Taft. 

603
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,640
I think it's barrytaft.com, but 
the place is crazy. 

604
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,960
I mean, it was, you know, it's, 
it's, I didn't really, I'll tell

605
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,200
you honestly, and you'll see it 
too. 

606
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,840
And it's really about, you know,
David giving me the back and the

607
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,000
history of the place. 
But there was like an area that 

608
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,160
I, my, the hairs on my arms 
stood up every time I walked 

609
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,080
through it. 
I didn't get cold. 

610
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,720
I didn't get hot. 
I just felt chills in the same 

611
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,200
area every time. 
Didn't matter where, when or how

612
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,800
I walked. 
I mean, it was weird. 

613
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,760
And if I walked through, I felt 
it and, and, and it and when I 

614
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,760
and I don't know what could 
cause that. 

615
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,520
I mean, it's like outside of 
zapping me with like, you know, 

616
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,640
microwave oven waves. 
I don't know how, how would he 

617
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,520
do it? 
You know what I mean? 

618
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,640
It's like, I don't know how he 
does it, but it was very that 

619
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,920
was the weirdest thing, you 
know, to the whole to the to my 

620
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,920
ex, this spa. 
And he said and he he he told me

621
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,080
like, you know, like this is 
this, you know, what's the most 

622
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,240
active room? 
What's the means? 

623
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,440
Like, you know, where we're 
going is going to be the most 

624
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,680
because of this. 
It's you know, in here and you 

625
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,600
know, this is what happened down
here or this is what it's the 

626
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,680
closest to this spa. 
I don't want to give it all the 

627
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,080
way, but it's a good, you know, 
much like we did with the 

628
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,760
Shanley where Kelly tells us the
history of the place. 

629
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,680
That's what sort of David did in
more of a walk through 

630
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,760
situation, you know, with him 
and David's character himself. 

631
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,880
David is talking to the spirits 
the entire time he's talking to 

632
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,240
me. 
He's getting messages from him 

633
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200
and he has a yeah, he has a 
relationship with them. 

634
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,120
It's that's, yeah, it's a whole 
other, it's a whole other beast,

635
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,840
guys. 
But this it's, I don't know what

636
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,080
to tell you, man. 
It's a lot of work and we're 

637
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,760
killing it and it's going fun. 
All right, chat, What do you got

638
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,080
to say for yourself? 
Anybody have anything to do? 

639
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,920
You want to chime in? 
Oh, and I got, there's a couple 

640
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,360
more psychics I'm going to talk 
to some some people doing real 

641
00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:00,960
interesting work in grief and 
induced death communication. 

642
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,800
Like real, real interesting 
things. 

643
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160
We're not just getting like the,
you know, the fluff stuff. 

644
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,480
I mean, we're getting some real 
scientists and some people who 

645
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,160
do this, a different level of 
spiritual communication, which 

646
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,680
again, putting that mosaic 
together of what I always 

647
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,840
describe the show guys as, you 
know, you ever see when you you 

648
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,440
know, you look up close, it 
looks like tiles that look like 

649
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,080
something different. 
Every little tile of the mosaic 

650
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,680
is different. 
But the farther back you go, the

651
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,440
image becomes whatever it 
becomes. 

652
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,520
That's what the show is as we 
get more and more. 

653
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,160
Tile by tile. 
But tile by tile, maybe, maybe 

654
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,200
we can put a picture together of
what we're talking about, right?

655
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,960
It's kind of the fun of it. 
What about you guys? 

656
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,360
You guys have any questions for 
us today? 

657
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,560
We just gave you, we just filled
you up on on the podcast and 

658
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,800
where we're at and where we're 
going. 

659
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,920
What would you like to see next?
I want to get into cryptids and 

660
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,240
I haven't. 
I've reached out to a couple 

661
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,320
people and I really want to talk
to them, you know, and I want to

662
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,560
get somebody good who can really
give me the good shit on Bigfoot

663
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,760
and. 
I may, I don't know if he'll do 

664
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,400
it. 
I may be able to get somebody on

665
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:25,280
the podcast sitting with me here
that can actually show us 

666
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:33,360
Cryptid photographs he took. 
And they're horrifying. 

667
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:40,719
What of a creature that I and I 
love nature and I know all the 

668
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,159
nature in my area. 
And at first it looked like a 

669
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:48,760
bear with mange, but it's got 
glowing eyes and wings. 

670
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,199
And I said, yeah, that doesn't 
match the description of any 

671
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,840
animal I know, you know, in this
area in the lower Hudson Valley,

672
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,600
I don't know what that is. 
If it didn't have the wings, I'd

673
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,760
be like, oh, that's a bear with 
mange. 

674
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,640
It's losing all its hair and 
what not. 

675
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,200
And obviously it hasn't been 
eaten. 

676
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,360
But this thing had wings, dude. 
And I was like, what? 

677
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,680
And the reason why he showed me 
this, he went out of his way to 

678
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,520
show me this is he found out 
that one of the areas that I 

679
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,400
document is where this thing, 
these pictures were taken. 

680
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:28,240
And I went what? 
Yeah, that's so cool. 

681
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,760
Yeah, I said dude, that's it. 
That's it. 

682
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,600
That's a horse of a different 
color. 

683
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,480
You know, like I don't do what? 
I don't deal with Krypton. 

684
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,840
I don't do it. 
But here's the other problem in 

685
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,040
that area. 
In that area, one of the 

686
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,880
requirements says you are not 
allowed to hurt the wildlife. 

687
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,480
You are only allowed to defend 
yourself with things around you.

688
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,920
So you can't go in there. 
So let's say I use my tripod and

689
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,360
I and I impale a coyote, right 
and protect myself from being 

690
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,240
bit by a from a coyote. 
I'm getting trouble for that. 

691
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,600
But if I took a bamboo stick 
that's laying on the ground or a

692
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,480
rock and kill the coyote, it'd 
be fine if it's in self-defense 

693
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,120
right? 
It literally spells it out right

694
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,440
when you walk into this place. 
There's a cryptic. 

695
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,240
Sign that says it. 
Can we? 

696
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,000
Can we? 
Do we categorize cryptids as 

697
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,720
wildlife? 
Faith I do. 

698
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:27,960
With my beliefs on cryptids, I 
do I do I have a very 

699
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,400
terrestrial belief on cryptids 
and what cryptids are based on 

700
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,120
the data that comes in every day
from natural discoveries. 

701
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,040
I need to get in. 
I need to get some Cryptid 

702
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,280
experts. 
This sounds like a guy, though. 

703
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,160
He's not an expert, he's just 
somebody who captures something.

704
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,720
Yeah, oh, I'm just saying he's. 
Not an expert, so that'll be 

705
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:43,840
fun. 
We should get him on a live and 

706
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,240
talk about it. 
Yeah, let. 

707
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,000
Me see what I can do and. 
Then, you know, so yeah, see 

708
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,640
what I can do. 
And then, but I want to get some

709
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,320
of these real, like the famous, 
like who's the Nick Roth of, you

710
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,040
know, the the Bigfoot world, you
know, like that kind of goes 

711
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,440
kind of people out there chasing
this shit for years and talk to 

712
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,480
me about why they why they've 
been dedicated their life to it,

713
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,560
right. 
That's that's what I want. 

714
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,520
I have another idea that you 
might enjoy, Gary, because I 

715
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,200
know you do like Reddit. 
Look up, look up, look up 

716
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,440
Cryptid stories on Reddit and 
see if you can contact any of 

717
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,520
those people to get them on, 
regardless whether they're full 

718
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,400
of it or if they're not. 
It would be really interesting 

719
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,280
to hear the story and let us 
make the the, you know, because 

720
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,680
there are some wild stories on 
Reddit about cryptids and things

721
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,200
that people catch and whatnot. 
Or by the way, if anybody and 

722
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,160
John, if anybody's listening, 
don't forget, go to 

723
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,000
splinteredspirits.com and go to 
our ghost stories tab and type 

724
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,520
in your story there about 
cryptids. 

725
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,000
You know, like that's that kind 
of the same. 

726
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,040
I'm not going to change the tab 
for every supernatural story. 

727
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,640
Ghost story can constitute 
aliens, cryptids, and fucking 

728
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,720
ghosts. 
Just go there and covers 

729
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:52,880
everything. 
So just go there. 

730
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,720
We want to hear your ghost 
stories too. 

731
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,560
Don't forget, we haven't gotten 
a good ghost story in a long 

732
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,000
time, but that's a good idea to 
sort of look up. 

733
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,920
About a because I love mermaids.
I was reading one about a a dude

734
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,480
who used to be whatever, he 
worked for the government and 

735
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,400
then he went into the private 
sector and they made him go on 

736
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,040
this boat. 
And the boat was basically a 

737
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,720
military boat and he thought he 
was going to do some welding and

738
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,840
fix some, you know, whatever, 
you know, in the water. 

739
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,520
In reality, they were hunting 
mermaids and and they do. 

740
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,000
The whole post is insane because
you're like dude this sounds so 

741
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,720
realistic could he be full of it
and just very creative? 

742
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:36,680
Sure, you know, but is it real 
like? 

743
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,080
Look, I've told you, I've told 
you 100 times, I have a hard 

744
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,560
time with cryptids. 
I don't, I don't know, I, I 

745
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,080
believe in ghosts more than I 
believe in cryptids. 

746
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,680
I don't, you know, or, or 
spirits. 

747
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,640
Like I said, I believe there's 
something happening with 

748
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,440
consciousness in the space that 
we're playing with, that you're 

749
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200
playing in, that we're studying 
and we're talking about. 

750
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,240
I don't know if there's like, 
monsters. 

751
00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:59,000
Well, that's the thing. 
They wouldn't be see in my eyes,

752
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,720
they wouldn't be monsters. 
They would be it would be 

753
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,160
nature. 
It's just nature that and and I 

754
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,600
guarantee everything is 
different, right. 

755
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,800
Like for example, great example 
of this buck out has a very 

756
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,480
famous Cryptid and that is the 
elegant white deer. 

757
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,240
And it's supposed to be an omen 
of good fortune and all this 

758
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,560
other stuff, but there's 
different lore and legends to 

759
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,720
it. 
I've seen it, I've seen it. 

760
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,800
I've seen the big white buck, 
you know, and it's beautiful and

761
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,400
it's majestic. 
But guess what? 

762
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,400
That could just be. 
And this is a legend that's been

763
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,080
going on for hundreds and 
hundreds of years. 

764
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,200
That's the gene in the gene 
pool. 

765
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,720
There's a logical reason why 
this creature is there, you 

766
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:47,040
know. 
And it's basically telling me 

767
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,800
it's a deer. 
Yeah, it's a deer. 

768
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,640
We'll think about it like this. 
Giant squids that were taking 

769
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,600
down fishing boats, you know, 
that was a mythological creature

770
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,760
until 1998 when the Japanese 
scientists found evidence of 1 

771
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,160
and, and, and got a recording of
it. 

772
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,240
You know, now we know that there
are these giant squids that are 

773
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,080
not creatures of mythology. 
They are real. 

774
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,960
So what else can be real? 
What else falls into that vein? 

775
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,120
And that's where I think a lot 
of these cryptids are more 

776
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:23,800
natural in nature than you know.
Jackie Blue 01 the if you're 

777
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,840
talking about the mermaid 
documentary, that was on 

778
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,280
Discovery. 
I worked at Discovery at the 

779
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,320
time and I can tell you with 
100% certainty that that was 

780
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,160
written by one man. 
And it's, it's fictional. 

781
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,680
The mermaid documentary on 
Discovery that aired back when I

782
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,040
you know. 
Well, they say. 

783
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,200
Straight up, they say it's a 
mockumentary. 

784
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,960
Yeah, it's the only thing. 
Listen, the only thing that 

785
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,760
struck me, we've spoken about 
this before, the only thing that

786
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,360
struck me on is how correct they
got with the Navy testing a new 

787
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,040
sonar. 
Well, because it's because 

788
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,200
they're, because they built it 
around real. 

789
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,720
They built it around real 
science, you know, like they 

790
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,840
they didn't. 
It's, it's, yeah. 

791
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,640
It's fiction science. 
When the Navy, we were doing it,

792
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,720
it was shortly after that 
documentary came out. 

793
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,640
You, you know what I mean? 
Like the mockumentary came out 

794
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,080
and then the Navy got caught. 
But you know, you, you have to 

795
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,840
remember somebody. 
Knows something. 

796
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,880
Did somebody like. 
Yes, because you got to remember

797
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,840
we we had a discovery 
discoveries at the time was 

798
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,760
certainly very it's a very 
credible place, right. 

799
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,080
That was where you would, that 
was the smart person's network, 

800
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,320
you know what I mean? 
And we had the Science Channel, 

801
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,320
we had the military channel, we 
had all of these things, right? 

802
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,560
So it was really that was. 
At the time, at that. 

803
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,360
Time so we had all access to 
that and then these people that 

804
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,440
wrote you know and the the guy 
who created the mermaid doc you 

805
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,600
know is a super talented guy and
plugged into all that and he 

806
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,160
just wrote it and made a great 
movie out of it but it was 100% 

807
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,440
fictional I mean the mermaid 
part of me you know yes he 

808
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,160
pulled you know it's real stuff 
and all these things yeah. 

809
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,520
He pulled it from real stuff, 
but the the story. 

810
00:41:57,720 --> 00:41:59,920
And the footage is all. 
Yeah, it's footage is all. 

811
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,720
Yeah, yeah. 
It's all fake and it was 

812
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,080
wonderful, you know? 
Yeah. 

813
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,680
I loved it so good. 
I still I listen, I still think 

814
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,160
mermaids exist and it makes 
sense. 

815
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,280
The aquatic ape theory. 
You know, we, we split off and, 

816
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,120
and somewhere us humans now, 
like you put us in water. 

817
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,320
What happens? 
Our hands prune so we can grab 

818
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,360
shit. 
We can float in water too. 

819
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,280
We're buoyant. 
But you don't think? 

820
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,960
Yeah, but do you think? 
But the whole thing's. 

821
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,080
I know, but do you? 
Think ran creatures. 

822
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,440
These are all pretty weird 
things. 

823
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,200
OK but do you believe that 
mermaids are like these smoking 

824
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,440
hot chicks that were half chick 
and half wit like Ariel? 

825
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,840
They look like aquatic gigs I 
believe. 

826
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,600
They look like they look like 
probably like manatees, yes, You

827
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:48,320
know, like it was some weird. 
Yes, I believe in aquatic. 

828
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,960
I don't believe in The Little 
Mermaid. 

829
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,880
I believe in the actual aquatic 
gig. 

830
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,480
Right, right, right, right. 
Well, that that are intelligent,

831
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,640
right? 
That are intelligent, they have 

832
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,480
intelligent, maybe you know, 
just as intelligent as we are, 

833
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,880
maybe more due to their 
environmental stress factor. 

834
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,440
The other thing, the other thing
I want to get into is, I mean, 

835
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,160
there's this is the problem. 
Well, it's not a problem for us.

836
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,040
It's great. 
There's so many things because 

837
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,240
then there's aliens, bro, we 
haven't even really touched. 

838
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,960
We touched it a little. 
You weren't on that. 

839
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,040
You weren't, you weren't on the,
you weren't there for the 

840
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,360
interview with Brian Sterling 
that where he was, he had 

841
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,360
multiple alien encounters that 
he talked about. 

842
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,520
That was really our first little
taste of that. 

843
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,840
But we have to. 
There's so many people and it's 

844
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,440
so huge right now. 
It's hard. 

845
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,680
Those guys are real hard to book
because, you know, Rogan's 

846
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,960
getting those guys because 
they're like, everybody wants to

847
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,000
talk about aliens right now. 
You know, because of the 

848
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,280
government releasing, getting 
into all that. 

849
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,480
It just made it hot again. 
And then those two areas blend, 

850
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,120
right? 
Cryptids and aliens blend 

851
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,640
because there are people that 
believe that Bigfoot is an alien

852
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,080
or a dimensional being. 
The Chupacabra, which falls into

853
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:59,680
those lines of, you know, of, 
you know, cryptids and and and 

854
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,000
aliens. 
Right. 

855
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:05,640
Look, aliens to me are 
different. 

856
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,160
I mean, I certainly believe in 
the there must be life 

857
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,680
somewhere. 
It's it's. 

858
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,760
It's improbable that there 
isn't. 

859
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:18,000
Now the probability dictates 
that there has to be life on 

860
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,400
other planets. 
How complex? 

861
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Well, that's the whole thing, 
right? 

862
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,960
There has to be. 
There's just. 

863
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,720
There's just no way. 
Right, like if light, right, 

864
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:29,120
Like if lightning struck. 
If lightning struck the ocean, 

865
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,560
what? 
Like 1000 years before it struck

866
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,920
the ocean here to create an 
amoeba that came to light. 

867
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,680
You know, I'm saying I don't 
know. 

868
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,920
I don't know how life works 
guys. 

869
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,080
I don't know how they. 
Started things combined like RNA

870
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,520
and D. 
NAI don't know how life starts 

871
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,800
so. 
And then? 

872
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,360
And then the evolution, you 
know, it took a couple million 

873
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,960
year, you know, million years 
for us to get going. 

874
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,680
You know, if they started 1000, 
you know, would they be that 

875
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,600
much more advanced to be able 
to, like, fly over here? 

876
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,080
I mean, I don't know, man. 
Yeah. 

877
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,920
I mean, it's theoretically 
right? 

878
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Right, I mean, and why? 
Why wouldn't they? 

879
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,720
I feel like if they're that 
advanced when they just take 

880
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,320
over. 
Look, if I could fly, if I had 

881
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,600
the technology to fly over to a 
planet like Earth, I would just 

882
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,480
rule it. 
Well, listen, I'm gonna play 

883
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,280
devil's advocate, right? 
I'm gonna play devil's advocate 

884
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,320
with something real quick, which
I love doing. 

885
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:27,800
The argument that if aliens are 
so sophisticated, why the hell 

886
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,920
do they crash, right? 
Think about it. 

887
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,320
If they have such sophistication
and they have the ways to travel

888
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:39,320
from from their planet or their 
realm of existence to Earth, why

889
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,080
are they crashing? 
OK, that's a big question. 

890
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,280
And then a lot of skeptics in 
the whole, you know, anybody who

891
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,360
has a hard time believing in 
aliens or aliens coming here are

892
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,360
going to ask that question. 
It's a logical question. 

893
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,640
So it's like, yeah, wait a 
minute. 

894
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,600
If they can, if they figured out
how to travel here in record 

895
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,240
time. 
Because keep in mind, everybody,

896
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:02,720
this is important. 
An alien species with the 

897
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:09,360
telescope on a planet 65,000,000
years from Earth are seeing 

898
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,840
dinosaurs right now. 
That's the way space-time works.

899
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,400
So that is so important. 
So we're talking about coming 

900
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,000
from one point to another, 
almost entertaining. 

901
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,440
Aslee. 
OK, if they have all this 

902
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,240
sophistication, how do they 
crash? 

903
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,040
How do we have their objects, 
you know, from the crashes, 

904
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,200
right, that we supposedly have 
and whatnot. 

905
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,920
So that's the devil's advocate 
argument towards it, and it's a 

906
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,680
big one. 
And I'd like to answer that by 

907
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,880
saying, well, maybe it's 
disoriented. 

908
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,360
What do you mean? 
They're not. 

909
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,200
They're not more powerful. 
It's disoriented, especially if 

910
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,080
they're coming from another 
realm of existence. 

911
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,280
And if they come into this 
realm, they're paportalized in 

912
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,000
this realm and they get 
disoriented and they crash. 

913
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,920
You know that's a huge 
possibility that nobody talks 

914
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,840
about A counter argument to that
argument. 

915
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,720
Diving into the diving into the 
shadow says original 

916
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:03,520
civilization. 
Men are from Pluto. 

917
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Second civilization are from 
Neptune. 

918
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,960
Where are you from? 
Girlies are from Venus. 

919
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,520
Well then who's from your anus 
is my question. 

920
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,480
Dad. 
Dad joke nailed it, mailed it. 

921
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,240
No, I, I understand what you're 
saying. 

922
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,040
I I, I've never heard the crash 
argument, but I could see people

923
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,080
can crash, you know, let you 
know people crash. 

924
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:29,200
But my question it would be, why
don't you know, at a certain 

925
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,160
point you'd think, let's just 
take this planet over if we want

926
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,960
it. 
Like do are are we, are we 

927
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,640
garbage? 
Well, that's the other thing, 

928
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,320
right? 
That's the other thing. 

929
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,240
Like, are we worth it? 
Are we worth it as a species? 

930
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,960
Think about if you're, if you're
an alien species and again, you 

931
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,080
figured out how to come here and
observe us and you observe us. 

932
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,040
You're going to go wait. 
Dang Dang. 

933
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,040
They're simple. 
They're simple, simple. 

934
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,600
I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I'm 
actually going to going to 

935
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,480
switch this around because we 
don't know how life gets. 

936
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,920
We don't know how life evolves 
on other planets, right? 

937
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,080
So what if a rock species 
evolved? 

938
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,080
I know this is getting. 
Crazy like like project Hail 

939
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,480
Mary or something? 
Yes, yeah. 

940
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,680
But I want you to really think 
about it. 

941
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,600
What if a rock species evolved, 
right? 

942
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,080
And they figured out how to come
here and observe us. 

943
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,200
And all the sudden they're going
around and they say, huh, look, 

944
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,920
they're streets, but what's that
material made of? 

945
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,000
I don't know. 
That doesn't look right. 

946
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:32,440
And they're going, They're 
going. 

947
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,440
And then they see some old 
structures with stacked 

948
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,680
fieldstone, you know, creating 
foundations. 

949
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,000
And they're like, they use racks
for their houses. 

950
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,920
And then they see mills and 
quarries and, you know, 

951
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,400
everything else. 
Headstones. 

952
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,560
That's fine. 
I see what you're saying. 

953
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,280
Yeah, that's funny. 
That's funny. 

954
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:57,960
Dude like they're going to go 
fuck this place and take off or 

955
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,440
you. 
Know right, that's one way they 

956
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,040
would go or they would just say 
let's they're they're killing 

957
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,800
our people let's just. 
Let's save the rocks. 

958
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,960
Let's save the rocks. 
We have to save our. 

959
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,120
Save the rocks. 
It's a fun, it's funny. 

960
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,120
It is a funny way to look at it.
Like what? 

961
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,760
Yeah, but seriously, like, you 
got it. 

962
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,880
So we don't know what we're 
dealing with. 

963
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,760
That's the other crazy thing. 
What if it's our future selves? 

964
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,000
You know what if it's, you know 
what we're dealing with it, you 

965
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,280
know, sprang from us. 
You know, there's a great, it's 

966
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,800
fiction. 
It's a, it's a, it's a work of 

967
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,560
fiction. 
And you can look it up, look up 

968
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,480
the alien interview and it's 
this grainy, like 1960s, like 

969
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,680
recreated, like alien capture 
and you know, the CIA or 

970
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,240
whatever government agency is 
interviewing this alien dude. 

971
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,720
It is one of the best things, 
one of my favorite lines. 

972
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:50,520
I use from that all the time 
when people ask me, hey, what 

973
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,360
are your view on views on life, 
politics, this, that and the 

974
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,280
other. 
Put your mouse around it. 

975
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,880
Yeah, yeah, put your. 
Around exactly, but before it's 

976
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,840
compassion and evidence, right? 
And that's where I got that from

977
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,480
because it's so true. 
The alien says that, well, 

978
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,600
what's your moral compass if you
don't believe in God? 

979
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,760
The alien straight up goes 
compassion and evidence. 

980
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,800
Right. 
But it's flawless. 

981
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,680
It's perfect. 
It's a great moral, moral, you 

982
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,160
know, road to walk, you know, to
teach your children to live by. 

983
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,760
I think so. 
But regardless, it's great. 

984
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,400
You should. 
You should. 

985
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,240
I won't check that, I never 
heard it's a movie but. 

986
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:25,120
When that fails, it's just 
straight up put your mouth 

987
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,040
around it, you know? 
Put your mouth around him. 

988
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,960
No, but I'll send it to you 
because the thing the the 

989
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,680
copyright owner dude, and still 
to this day does this, which I 

990
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,640
love. 
If you upload the video, he gets

991
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,000
the video taken down because he 
still tries to act like it's 

992
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,840
like, you know, secret footage 
that you know nobody should 

993
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,240
sing. 
So he's been trolling this for 

994
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:49,920
such a long time. 
Wait, is it a, is it a movie 

995
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,640
that was released or is it 
somebody? 

996
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,840
It's like a you. 
It's a Internet thing. 

997
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,840
It's an Internet thing. 
It's an Internet thing. 

998
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,720
So I'll send it to you, but then
if you go back to the link, it 

999
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:02,680
might be taken down and uploaded
somewhere else and it's all in 

1000
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,040
bits and pieces. 
Oh, it's great. 

1001
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,320
That's funny, man. 
Yeah. 

1002
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,440
Yeah, Yeah. 
What about you? 

1003
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,960
Remember, I think it was Art 
Bell. 

1004
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,320
I think it was coast to coast. 
Don't quote me on this but I 

1005
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,360
think it was our bell coast to 
coast when a dude that worked at

1006
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,080
area 51 called then. 
Have you ever heard that? 

1007
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,080
Whether. 
It's fake. 

1008
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,480
Yeah, I know what you're talking
about. 

1009
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,160
Yeah. 
Yeah, I know. 

1010
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,640
It's like a War of the Worlds 
thing, I think. 

1011
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:27,200
Yeah, dude, it's terrifying 
whether it's real fake, you 

1012
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,680
know, it's like it makes you 
think like, what is going on out

1013
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,800
there? 
Am I one of those conspiracists,

1014
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,120
conspiracy theorists that go, Oh
yeah, it's aliens and I mean 

1015
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,600
reptiles and this, that and the 
other and everybody's taking 

1016
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,800
over. 
No, I don't think it's a They 

1017
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,800
Live sort of situation, which is
a great movie, by the way. 

1018
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,720
Remember that movie? 
Yeah, with Rowdy Roddy Piper. 

1019
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,240
Dude, I'm going to kick ass to 
two bubble gum, but I want a 

1020
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:52,680
bubble gum. 
Yeah, great. 

1021
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,360
Oh, it was great. 
Put the glasses on the glass. 

1022
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,360
Yeah, it was awesome. 
Did you? 

1023
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Well, the other thing too, you 
know, what's funny is our, our, 

1024
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,200
our progress sort of steers into
this way naturally, right? 

1025
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,120
And we'll get there. 
The other thing in the in the 

1026
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,320
creepy world is like sort of 
haunted objects. 

1027
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,600
We haven't really dove. 
We, we talk about them a lot, 

1028
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,120
but we haven't really done a 
deep dive into them. 

1029
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,960
Dolls probably being the number 
one thing because first of all, 

1030
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,160
dolls creep me the frog out. 
There's a lot of, there is a lot

1031
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,680
of Here's my issue with dolls. 
There's a lot of them out there,

1032
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,760
right? 
There's a lot of haunted dolls, 

1033
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,560
which makes sense because 
there's a lot of haunted 

1034
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,320
objects. 
But I noticed that and this is 

1035
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,720
me, me not knocking any of the 
people that have onto dolls and 

1036
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:40,640
investigate their dolls. 
They're very easy. 

1037
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,240
I mean, this is everybody in the
paranormal. 

1038
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,560
They're very easy to take one or
two words and run with it where 

1039
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,440
they create their own scenarios 
for these dolls. 

1040
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,320
You know, they'll hear breakfast
and then they'll be like, Oh my 

1041
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:59,000
God, this doll loves breakfast. 
Let me tell you, you know, I'm 

1042
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,240
serious. 
And it's just like. 

1043
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,840
I want to know like the 
psychology behind the haunted 

1044
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,720
doll to like the love of the 
doll and it meaning to be 

1045
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,280
haunted. 
You know what I mean? 

1046
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,560
Like. 
You know. 

1047
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,200
No idea, it's weird. 
People sent them to me or I 

1048
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:15,640
don't. 
Feel. 

1049
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,240
How come I don't feel like a lot
of haunted action figures? 

1050
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:21,360
I know, right? 
Like, why is there no haunted GI

1051
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,320
Joes or Star Wars figures? 
Something cool, yeah. 

1052
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,360
Ninja. 
Turtles. 

1053
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,840
You're right. 
Like, why not? 

1054
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,320
That would be why is there none?
I haven't seen they what, no 

1055
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,680
one's died around like, you 
know, a GI Joe or Cobra 

1056
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,360
Commander or something. 
Like wouldn't that be like I 

1057
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,200
would buy a haunted cover 
commander? 

1058
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,240
I would put them right there 
like that's cool. 

1059
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,120
I am sick. 
A haunted shredder. 

1060
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,560
A haunted transformer. 
Haunted Transformer? 

1061
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,800
That'd be sick. 
I mean, like, these are things. 

1062
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,040
They're older. 
They're 40 years old. 

1063
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,480
You know, they're like Power 
Ranger. 

1064
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,320
I don't even know if they make 
action figures anymore. 

1065
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,720
Do they? 
Because it's I I'm action 

1066
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:56,560
figures feels like my my use. 
I still. 

1067
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,520
Make action figures right now 
the big thing with. 

1068
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,240
Action I don't see. 
How about no haunted Lego 

1069
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,040
figures? 
Oh dude, dude, don't say that 

1070
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,960
because Legos are like, listen, 
you judge me as a parent all you

1071
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,240
want. 
If someone would, someone would 

1072
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:16,640
buy my children Legos, they'd be
in the house for maybe a couple 

1073
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,840
of days and then I'd throw them 
the fuck out. 

1074
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,920
Why don't you like Legos? 
Dude, you've never stepped on a 

1075
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:28,520
Lego at 3:00 AM in the middle? 
Oh dude, it is a horrifying 

1076
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,520
experience, especially if you're
carrying a drink or something. 

1077
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,920
Oh dude, Nope. 
I get Rena. 

1078
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,840
I I put them in a box. 
I well, we used to boxes of them

1079
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,520
still. 
Do what we used to do with what 

1080
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,480
we used to do for kids. 
Birthday parties for families we

1081
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,640
hated was buy them play DoH 
sets. 

1082
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,920
If you hate a fucking family and
you're going to a kids birthday 

1083
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,640
party, buy those sons of bitches
play DoH a lot. 

1084
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,800
Of. 
Them and a lot of it if you're 

1085
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,040
like don't like I got we got 
your kid this play DoH 

1086
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,280
spaghetti, that shit gets 
everywhere. 

1087
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,360
Is that like something where 
it's like, yeah. 

1088
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,040
And it's the one in your face. 
Ever gets stuck in the carpet? 

1089
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,160
Have fun picking that shit up 
right and then some. 

1090
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:12,040
Some sadistic toy maker created 
magic sand. 

1091
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:20,160
Dude, it's like like, yes. 
You want to hate somebody, you 

1092
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,200
hate somebody, you buy them a 
nice magic sand set for their 

1093
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:29,600
child, you're going to be. 
I mean, what's worse than sand, 

1094
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,080
glitter and play DoH? 
It's the worst. 

1095
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:36,040
I feel like kids toys now aren't
the same as they were back in 

1096
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,920
the day, right? 
Like they're, they're just not, 

1097
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,560
they're just not like they still
make action figures and all 

1098
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,560
that. 
But even now, like the big thing

1099
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,920
is they're going back to the 
whole old school style, like 

1100
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,680
action figures, like you can go 
into a target and see a 

1101
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,800
recreated set of like the Ninja 
Turtles. 

1102
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,200
Oh, dude, I said so many of 
that, GII said so many GI Joe 

1103
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,080
things that I was showing my son
the other day. 

1104
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,160
I said, you know, they used to 
sell when I was a kid, an 

1105
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,440
aircraft carrier for GI Joe was 
a set. 

1106
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,000
And the thing, that thing was as
big as a fucking Volkswagen. 

1107
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,240
Yeah. 
It was like, like only like a 

1108
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:10,440
rich kid that could get that 
thing. 

1109
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,000
Like, I don't know where you 
even put it in your house. 

1110
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,160
Like it could put, you could put
2 toy jets on. 

1111
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:19,360
I mean, it was literally right. 
It was like a car. 

1112
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,200
It was a size. 
It was like, I've never, I don't

1113
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,560
know what they make out of it 
now. 

1114
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,440
Lego is kind of cool. 
And by the way, those Lego 

1115
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,000
figurines, dude, people were 
like stealing those like crazy. 

1116
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,200
Those are worth serious coin. 
Don't work. 

1117
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,400
So when I used to do the eBay 
store and I used to find Legos 

1118
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,120
in the garbage, you know, I, I 
literally boxes of Legos people 

1119
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,520
would throw out. 
It's the little dudes because. 

1120
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,880
I would sell I would sell them 
in bulk, but all the characters,

1121
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,640
all the figurines, even pieces 
of them, I'd pull out dude, and 

1122
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,640
you know, we're you know, 
shipping a little thing like 

1123
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,080
this is nothing right and you're
making 100 dollars, 200 dollars,

1124
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,320
$700.00. 
I think the the the most I ever 

1125
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:04,040
got was close to a grand for and
it was missing an arm too. 

1126
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,320
Of who was it Vader? 
It was a Star Wars character. 

1127
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,160
Yeah, man, you can't because 
they only come in those sets, 

1128
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,080
right? 
Like if you wanted a Thanos 

1129
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,040
Lego, it's you got to buy the 
set that's got them in it, 

1130
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,240
right? 
So people were stealing them 

1131
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:23,120
like out of like heists, like 
giant heists of Legos, which is 

1132
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,000
crazy. 
But yeah, no haunted Legos. 

1133
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,480
I I would love a little like why
can't I have AI would love a 

1134
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,040
series of haunted Legos. 
I put them right up on the wall.

1135
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,600
And to like fly off and you're 
stepping on him when? 

1136
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,600
You're at least I mean, I'm not 
afraid of that shit. 

1137
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,640
I'm not afraid of it this big, 
but like a doll, like when you 

1138
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,080
wait until wait until you see 
guys and maybe you've seen it if

1139
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,600
you follow her. 
But the Haley Michelle the 

1140
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,280
paranormal Princess is doll 
Andrew. 

1141
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,960
She sent me a picture of it, 
John, and I told you I saw it. 

1142
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,520
This thing looks real, like a 
real little boy. 

1143
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,480
And I think it is. 
Some of them are creep dim. 

1144
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,840
I think it's a boy. 
I think it's a little Dutch boy 

1145
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,000
that she thinks is a doll, but 
it's not. 

1146
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,800
That's how real it looks. 
And it's I don't know how you 

1147
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,040
keep that in your house. 
I don't know how you keep it in 

1148
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,000
your house. 
That's right. 

1149
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Man listen, dolls are nuts 
fucking. 

1150
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,560
Annabelle goes on tour. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1151
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,880
You know what I mean? 
It's like this is how people are

1152
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,800
really into this shit. 
They are. 

1153
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,880
So it's like I, I and I haven't 
done a deep dive into it. 

1154
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,280
I got to start talking to people
about that too. 

1155
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,600
We do for this podcast really 
get into though. 

1156
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,480
I, I want to because I want to 
know everything about it, right?

1157
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,320
I want to know that. 
Hold on one SEC. 

1158
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Hold on one. 
SEC I want to know that, but 

1159
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,760
I'll talk to the people. 
I want to know the history of 

1160
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,240
it. 
I want to know how this became a

1161
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,040
thing, Why it becomes a thing I 
sort? 

1162
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Of tell you why it's a thing, I 
believe it started with the 

1163
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,160
ancient Sumerians. 
I believe they were the first 

1164
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,760
ones. 
That is that a real is that a 

1165
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,400
real brace of people? 
That doll what the Sumerians? 

1166
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,880
Yeah, that sounds made-up, no? 
No, Judas, the Sumerians, 

1167
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,120
Mesopotamia. 
Oh, OK, that sounds like. 

1168
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,240
So again, that sounds like a 
that sounds like a Ghostbusters 

1169
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,480
thing. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1170
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,320
No, no. 
Sumerians, ancient Sumerians. 

1171
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,120
They believe that dolls, you 
know. 

1172
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,840
Yeah, see, look at that. 
That that dolls are the they 

1173
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:15,560
they can hold souls. 
That's it is creepy. 

1174
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,360
That thing is clear. 
He's like, hi, Gary. 

1175
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,080
Yeah, see, it's super creepy 
you. 

1176
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,240
Want me to? 
That's like the hills have that 

1177
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,080
and that's like and like that 
doll looks like like it was made

1178
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,280
for the hills have eyes family, 
like somebody made that doll and

1179
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,680
it's warped like whose fucking 
kid looks like that? 

1180
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,680
You got an ugly baby. 
I could. 

1181
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,960
Come to your. 
House. 

1182
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,400
That's one. 
That's one ugly baby. 

1183
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,560
Yeah. 
Like that person made that 

1184
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,080
thinking. 
Like this is a child's going to 

1185
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,400
love playing. 
A little child's going to love 

1186
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,520
having their own little baby 
doll that looks like that. 

1187
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,840
Yeah. 
That's like, yeah, that's like a

1188
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,160
chunk look like as a baby. 
You know what I mean? 

1189
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,880
Imagine being able to take baby 
pictures of yourself and send 

1190
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,800
them somewhere and get a doll 
made-up. 

1191
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,360
Oh, you can do that. 
Had you? 

1192
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,720
Of course you could do that. 
You can get action figures made 

1193
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,680
it yourself. 
I've seen the action figures I 

1194
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,160
just didn't know about like 
children thoughts, you know, so.

1195
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,960
Up to Daddy's horrifying. 
And then see if we can get it 

1196
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,520
haunted. 
Yeah, but who's going to possess

1197
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,320
it? 
We'll just leave it at we'll 

1198
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,960
just leave it in a in a haunted 
spot for bro a couple weeks and 

1199
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,880
see. 
We'll see the dolls cooking and 

1200
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,520
see if anything attaches. 
Is that how it happened? 

1201
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,000
How did something attack? 
Do you have to have like a 

1202
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,880
sacrifice around a doll for it 
to get attached to it? 

1203
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,160
Like what gets it to? 
How do you do it? 

1204
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,960
You know what's funny is is that
I have no idea. 

1205
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,800
I have a theory on that. 
Get into the science of it. 

1206
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,280
QMS Quantum matter symbiosis, 
where you know things can become

1207
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,400
haunted. 
Let's hear this, QMS. Did you 

1208
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,520
just make? 
Did you just make that up? 

1209
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,640
I made that up. 
That theory is well shit going 

1210
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,880
on four years old now. 
They will outdated because I 

1211
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,760
have some new data and I haven't
fine-tuned it. 

1212
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,480
The quantum matter symbiosis 
QMS. Please continue. 

1213
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,120
We are, we listen. 
We're scientists now we need to 

1214
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,480
explain. 
We are parapsychologists in the 

1215
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,440
making. 
So let's go. 

1216
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,080
Basically it is the theory that 
things can imprint on the 

1217
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:29,800
electrons of an object matter 
wise and can stay locked in 

1218
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,480
rather than be transferred. 
Cause electrons are always, you 

1219
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:38,280
know, that's basically the, the,
the theory, you know, it's kind 

1220
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,160
of actually how I feel memory 
is, is imprinted on electrons. 

1221
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,240
It's the same thing, which I'm 
not going to get into more 

1222
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,640
detail on that because I'm still
working on a little something 

1223
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,840
special for the podcast. 
I had an idea a while back. 

1224
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,120
I just haven't been able to get 
it into fruition. 

1225
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,800
But anyway, that's how that's 
what QMS is haunted matters in 

1226
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:57,320
BIOS. 
OK. 

1227
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,400
But listen, that's just my 
theory, right? 

1228
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,120
But I wonder this if you send a 
haunted object in the mail, 

1229
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,440
what's the guarantee it's going 
to come to you wanted? 

1230
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,760
There is no guarantee. 
What if he detaches and goes to 

1231
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,520
something else or goes, I like 
this distribution center, you 

1232
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,520
know. 
And I like this mailman I. 

1233
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,120
Like this mailman, I'm going to 
stick with him. 

1234
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,520
Right. 
Seriously. 

1235
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,560
So you don't know. 
Right. 

1236
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,600
How do you transfer haunted 
material? 

1237
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,080
That's another question. 
I don't know if there's an 

1238
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,160
expert on that shit. 
There must be some expert on 

1239
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,320
haunted stuff. 
Yeah. 

1240
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,280
There's experts everywhere, 
right? 

1241
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,800
Right. 
There's experts everywhere. 

1242
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,640
Well, Gary, listen, I got a 
drive, try not to spoiling it 

1243
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,400
for everybody where I'm going 
tonight, but I got a little bit 

1244
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,960
of a drive to get there. 
Guys, thank you so much. 

1245
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,240
I appreciate your time. 
Again. 

1246
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,760
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1247
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,840
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1248
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,160
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1249
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,680
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1250
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,320
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1251
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,880
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1252
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,480
with Aubrey Black. 
It's out now. 

1253
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,560
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1254
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:22,560
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1255
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:28,240
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1256
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,680
And then we've got other great 
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1257
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:31,640
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1258
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,080
And again, this has been 
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1259
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,560
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1260
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,720
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1261
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,560
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1262
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,640
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1263
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,840
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1264
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