Oh, there he is. He's made it.
I've made it. What's up?
Dude they did. They actually had everything
ready for me. I didn't even my check in was
literally they met me at the door and handed me my key so it
worked out perfectly. Amazing.
Hopefully I don't have a bad echo in here in the room, but
you know. It's not so bad, not so bad.
All right, dude, we got, we got a jam packed, lots of things to
talk about. Yes, we do.
This before we get to our guest,
very special guest today to talk about this week's episode.
But all right, so let's get into it.
We had some amazing interviews coming up and one in particular,
I don't know if you guys got your latest edition of
Paranormal News. If I got delivered, did you get
the latest edition of Paranormal News, John?
I did not get it but I'm planning on it.
Oh boy, the latest, the hottest thing in paranormal lose.
So I mean, look, I don't know if, if, if you're listening and
$0.15 for the paranormal lose, but it's, it's look, everybody
that's that's interested in this space has probably heard one way
or another about what's going on with The Conjuring house.
And Jason Hawes is taking a lead in if you don't know Jason Hawes
is he's one of the guys, the original ghost hunters.
The TV show probably spawned the whole thing of why everybody
does paranormal on social media. One of the first guys to ever do
it. He is doing a GoFundMe to help
buy the house at the request of one of the former residents and
the family that owned it, Andrea Perrin.
And we were fortunate enough, John and I, to interview Andrea
this week. We are going to drop that
interview on Tuesday. It's going to be absolutely
awesome. I think you guys are going to
love it. She is an incredible guest.
I'm going to give you a little taste of it here in a second,
but this GoFundMe is real and she believes in it.
She wants the house. First of all, dude, I said this
Derek, right? I can't believe that she gives a
shit about this house after being haunted in it for 10.
Especially, especially the fact that she doesn't investigate,
she doesn't document, she doesn't do anything like that.
You know, she's more of, you know, just her and she's been.
There. Yeah, she's been.
So she it's, it's, it is, it is. And we and guys, we had to ask,
why do you want to save this place?
Why? Like, what's the reason?
And, you know, she explained it to us.
She's got a great reason anyway, she, you know, she, she loves
it. Listen, Art, the interview we do
with it with Andrea is not about the differences between the
movie and how she lived it. You could find that everywhere.
There's a lot of wonderful interviews out there and
podcasts that have done that interview.
And she wrote 3 fucking books about it.
So buy the books. Also links to those books in our
link tree in Splendid Spirits. Same with the GoFundMe as well.
Same with the GoFundMe. And here's the thing, guys of
this yes, we're dropping it on Tuesday, but here's a little
secret. If you want to see it now, you
can. You can if you're watching us on
YouTube or Spotify, you can sign up and be a member and you can
get advanced episodes and you can watch them ahead of the
drop. Will we of course, always be
giving them away on Tuesdays? Yes.
But if you want to watch ahead, you can.
And since we just started this, you're not just going to get the
Andrea Perrin episode. I've also made available the
upcoming Mike Dorsey episode. If you don't know who Mike is,
Mike is the executive producer of Ghost Hunter's House Calls.
He works with Zach Baggins a lot and he also has a brand new Ted
Bundy documentary on Fox Nation. He's just, you know, really
talking about how they film these TV shows and, and I've
also given you another episode in advance that you can have.
That's three episodes. Three episodes this, then
Paranormal News 3 episodes, and that episode is with Steve
Parsons. Steve Parsons is AUK ghost
hunter, been doing it for 45 years.
Unbelievably credible. He wrote this book, Ghostology.
I don't know if it's in focus or if it's backwards, but he wrote
this book. It is, I mean, honestly, if
you're if you're watching us here and you're an investigator
or you fancy yourself one and you haven't read that book, just
quit, just quit or wear a shirt that says you're a fraud because
he's I mean, that book that this guy is great.
And that was a great interview as well.
So listen, all right, the Spotify membership, it's a it's
a couple bucks and it's a couple bucks less than YouTube.
Why? Why?
Well, because you don't get as much on Spotify.
You just get advanced. You just get the advance episode
on YouTube. It's a little bit more why?
Why is it more because you get sub only chats, you get special
stickers and badges, which the kids love.
So it's all different, right? So we can spot you faster.
We can do it, you can donate, but they're there.
They're ready for you to listen. Let me just give you now a
little taste I want to share with you are a piece of the
interview with Andrea just so you can see the kind of woman
she is just a a clip that I made from that interview, which I
think is going to blow your minds a little bit.
I mean, she's just it really sums her up in in a nutshell.
I mean, she's so wild and so strong on what she's going
through because by the way, guys, she's got cancer and she's
still kill. I mean, she's just attitude in
life is amazing, you know? Oh, let me open this, do this
like this. Yeah, We get that open and then
we do a share screen. That's right.
I think we figured this out last time and we do that and we pop
this window and we say share audio.
It's only an extra $0.05. Only an extra 5.
For an extra $0.05, you can get the paranormal news.
All right, here we go. Let's see, share.
Let's see. All right, can everybody see
that? You can see that, right?
All right, let me press play on this.
No, I think that I'm supposed to have this cancer so that I can
heal from this cancer, so that I can write a book and tell other
people how to heal from cancer. I think that that's exactly
what's happening and that it's part of my mission.
It's part of my journey, and I embrace it.
I embrace it not as a perversion because of this cancer.
We're going to get the farmhouse back and we're going to save
that farmhouse. And I am so deeply grateful and
I am so humbled. And, and the I, I can't even
tell you the outreach for me, which would be my greatest
legacy. It would be my greatest legacy
to be any part of a pivotal part of, of changing the outcome and
the history of this House. Yeah, man.
So that's I'm going to drop that clip online tomorrow, but I just
want to give you guys a taste of it here now.
I'd say everybody that just heard that you can't pay for
those effects by the way, that's completely natural.
That's completely natural by the way.
I don't if everybody heard that. The way I heard it, it was like
you were watching it from another into dimensional portal.
What were you getting? Were you getting an audio?
Big time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was cool sounded. It was cool, sounded.
But it is, Well, I'm sorry about that, but look, you'll get a.
Teaser it's a teaser, so they just it's.
A teaser? There won't be.
There won't be audio. But look, the point is we have a
big, this is a this is a legend in this paranormal space.
Andrea Perrin, she has been through it.
One of the probably the most right now, the most famous
haunting thing you could probably deal with is The
Conjuring. She lived through it.
She was kind enough to share her story with us.
And really it's about how a person copes with that,
processes what happened and then survives it.
And that's kind of the angle we took.
That's what interests me. Like, how do you live in a place
and be like abused by ghosts for 10 years and then still be happy
about it and still have be sharp witted and still love your
family and still, you know, not. I mean, I told her straight.
Like I said, John, I told her straight up, I would have burned
that place to the ground. I don't want anything to do with
it Or, or, or I'd want to give that house to a couple a holes.
I know. Yeah.
Instead. Well, that's the thing.
We, we, you know, when, when she agreed to do the, the interview,
you know, both me and Gary, we're like, yeah, we're, we're
not doing what everybody else has done.
We, we've heard she's answered the same questions over and over
and over on all these other interviews, which are all great
by the way, and we watch them all, you know, they're awesome.
So there's plenty of people who covered it really.
Well, yeah. And, and, you know, so if you're
up to up and up to date with everything, you know, this is
going to be like, oh, wow. Like, this is really cool.
Just getting her feedback on things.
And it was one of those interviews where we all just
were, I mean, I don't know, it was like, you know, we've known
each other for years type deal. The way we were talking to each
other, you know, she's wonderful.
Want to tell you this woman and she loved she's loved she's been
texting me all day. She like wants to help us and
like hook us up with, you know, get she's plugged in everybody.
I don't know man, it's just a great.
It was a really great vibe. She has a really great energy
and while I don't have a dog in this race for this house, I
certainly want her to have what she wants.
So please go to the link tree in my bio in the splintered spirits
bio anywhere and you can find you'll see a picture of her.
It is a link, direct link to this GoFundMe.
If everybody in this audience, I mean, John, if you have a
million followers, everybody gave $0.50.
They could buy two of these houses.
I mean, it's, you know, it's not it's not a lot.
So we're going to push for her while we can push for her and
and try to make it happen. Right.
All right, chat. So listen, let's get into the
business of the Week 2 here because I hope everyone did.
Everyone watch the reading because I dropped that reading.
So, Gary, real quick, let's, let's, let's refresh everybody
on that reading happened a while ago.
Even I need a refresher. So what was the, what was the
gist of, of, of your reading with Kathy, who's amazing, by
the way, If you haven't checked her out yet, please do.
Oh yeah, Kathy Nadal is a is a is a fan of the show.
First of all, Kathy Nadal just as a side point.
Now I can never get another reading from anybody, right?
Because now that I've published this, I'm not going to trust
anybody else that they didn't see this.
And she was so thorough about the things that sort of that
could matter to me that it's, you know, what else could
somebody say that could do it? So, so she's my psychic, right?
Kathy Nadal. I mean, I, I want to meet other
psychics, but and I want to hear what they have to say and I'm a
fan of them, but I couldn't possibly get a reading from one
and not be worried that they just listened to this.
So the thing about this reading was, you know, I lost my brother
several years ago and it seemed like that she was getting a lot
of vibes from him coming through.
First, the reading starts out with like some old woman who
could have been associated with my wife and it was like they she
she was dominating the scene. But then it started to push
through like this big personality, which may, it sort
of started to feel like it could have been my brother John.
So she said a lot of stuff in there that I was unsure of at
the time. So I had to bring in, you know,
I'm, we're going to bring in someone else who knew my brother
very well in a moment as a special guest 'cause I had, I
had her listen and see if she can read it.
I'll tell you when she's in. She's not in yet.
She'll be joining us soon. But that's, that's the gist of
it, man. Like it's wild some of that
stuff. And I can tell you even my
mother got into it, right. So she said, you know, she
brought up the number 17 on a jersey.
And my mother says that that #17 is my grandfather's, my mother's
father's birthday. And they were, you know, my
grandfather and John were somewhat, you know, they had a
relationship and, and close and then there was a dog or
something. And my brother loved his ex
girlfriend's dog. So there could have been
something there with that, right?
So it's like, I don't know, dude, it's nuts.
So but she got real specific and she got real.
If you watch, she got real specific.
She knew some things about like, like he was watching my kids and
he, he said things that were definitely not online at the
time, you know, about my kids, which is really, you know.
Well, I and I think, I think the most wild thing, what I do
remember from all that, and this is how powerful it is, because
you guys know my brain, I believe she's the one that said
that you were away. Oh, you just froze up for a
second. Am I?
Am I here? Yeah, you're there.
Go. OK, You just.
Said I, I believe she was the one that said that you were away
when he passed, that you were. Traveling through that was the.
That was the. That was, yeah.
When I heard her say that, I was like, there is.
No way. There's no way.
I mean I don't know search. There's no way, No way.
Nobody would have known that. I can't.
I do for the life of me. And I started digging and I
started living at there's, you know.
Yeah, there's yeah. There's no way.
It was so wild. Anyway, I had to point that out.
That was like. That was that was the turning
point, but that was the real turning point.
Led us to this point, right? Why, Why we're so like on this.
And that's what made me go, OK, you know what?
This on top of other things, this woman has an ability that
she's sharing with us. And and now we're going to dive
into exactly what she was saying.
Yeah, yeah. We're going to have a lot of fun
with it. So let's look at the chat real
quick before our guest joins us here.
Let's see. Sorry, guys, we've been talking
a lot of business, a lot of business, a lot of business
about the paranormal news. The paranormal news, the news,
yes, it's in. It's all the news that fit the
print. The Cadre House is up for sale.
Who's going to get it? I don't know, but there's a
couple of people in the running and we're trying to do our do
our part. Do your part for the wall
effort. Give your part for the wall
rapper. Click that GoFundMe and donate,
donate, donate and. If you can't donate, make sure
you share it. If you can't, yes, share away.
If you can't donate, share all that's fit to print.
Be a good American. Save The Conjuring house, Yeah.
That's funny. But good for her, man.
I want to help her out. So yeah.
Oh, yeah. Put that.
Go fund me. That's what you miss, guys.
That's what you missed. All right, so our guest is here.
And our guest today is none other than my sister, your
mother. You know her.
Oh, I know her. Kathy Santa, let's say hello
there. She is.
There she is. Hello my loves.
Hello, hello, hello, hello. My 2 loves.
Welcome. Thank you for having me.
Hi Mom. Yes, hi sweetheart.
How? Are you hello, Mother.
Hello. My little sweetheart.
Look what you have bore. Yeah.
You're so awesome. Isn't it funny?
Like did you ever think that in in a million years that we we've
been doing a podcast talking about ghosts can.
I tell you, I blame myself because I think it's like all of
that, those little juice boxes with Slimer on them that he
drinks. Ecto Cooler.
I talk about Ecto Fuller all the time.
Ecto Fuller, what's the best? He had like every creature from
like Ghostbusters and the, the, the little party wagon thing and
the Oh my gosh, I blame myself. Yeah, Oh my God.
He's awesome. I have an awesome son.
The awesomest. Oh my, that's funny.
That is really funny. But I do blame myself.
We got the chat here saying what, a young looking mom.
They can't even believe it. Yeah.
You should see my mom. She's.
Crazy. My mom.
Is great the abuse. That's a grandma right there.
I'm going to grandma by the. Way stop it.
I'm sorry, Gary. All right, hey, so we brought
you on because that you got that's the first time you ever
heard that full reading. You heard it right.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't realize when you when Kathy was giving
you the reading. First of all, she's awesome.
I was texting you that's. Why?
So you can't realize that she was live on there?
I thought it was like after you were looking at something after
I didn't realize it and I was like, Oh my God, Gary, that's
that's our brother. You know right when she said he
was out of the country and there is no way I'm I.
Could I can't. I can't figure it out.
Like, yeah, ever. Known that there's there's just
no way. There's no way that one was
weird. There's no way that was the one.
There's a lot of other things too.
Some things I just did not. There's there's some things in
there I don't know either. Yeah, but what we're she saw she
brought up some names and some letters.
Can you like what, what did you what, what stuck out to you or
things that were questioner that I was questioning during it that
you might be able to shed some light on?
I made notes. OK, good.
Now I want to hear it. Yeah, because I'm old.
I can't remember it. Yeah, we all have to make notes
for anything. That's right.
We got an old, we got an old crowd, another go out.
You got a lot of love here, Cat. A lot.
A lot of young, young mom. All the meows love you.
OK, Let's say. Yeah, I I wrote down, I can't
speak to, you know, the woman that came through for your wife.
Yeah. No clue.
No one can. That's fine.
I. Didn't get it.
The the only thing was like the hair thing, you know, my
grandmother was a hairdresser forever and she never left the
house without lipstick. So, you know, first I thought
that, but then she was more leaning towards, you know, her
side's family. I said it's not for us, so
someday somebody will figure that out.
Another thing not regarding our brother, but that stuck out to
me was when she was talking about like your timeline.
And you know, I can't speak to your own personal shifts and how
you felt about things, but I thought about, you know, your
father passed away, you know, like in 2016, right?
And. I thought I don't remember.
I really. Don't.
Think I'm terrible about it? I'm just saying, you know, I
think, you know, sometimes you don't know things affect people,
whatever. And your mind did too.
And we have the most awesome stepdad in the whole world, so.
Right. But let me let me let me tell
you a story about like, you know, people are going to think
I'm horrible. You ready for this this?
Is a pretty horrible don't say anything horrible.
I am. I'm going to say something
horrible. So there was a point.
There was a point. Listen, Katie, the wife and I
had tickets to see Lollapalooza in Chicago one year, right?
Me and Katie, we're going to go. We were going to Chicago to see
Lollapalooza. I got friends out there and we
were going to go see her. And I get a call that my father
was in a coma. This is years before he died.
So I'm like, well, I got tickets to the show, right?
Like, so I didn't tell Katie because Katie, my wife would
have made me go to the hospital. But like, what?
Is this like a fucking movie? Or am I going to sit there and
read a story to him and he's going to wake up miraculously
because of my voice. So I'm going to go to the show
and on Saturday or night or Sunday.
So bad. I said to Katie, I go, that's
what I told her and I said. I'm going to tell.
My kid, listen, because now we're in Chicago, we're close to
the East Coast. And I said, listen, there might
be. I might have to go from here.
To New York, my God, and. She was so mad at me and I was
like, well, we had a great weekend.
It would have ruined whole weekend.
When is he gonna wake this? Velvet Tones are gonna wake
everybody up like he's gonna wake you up from a coma.
But look, he he came out of the coma and he was just fired for a
couple more years, you know? But I was like, I wasn't, you
know? Yeah.
It just wasn't going to happen, you know?
It just didn't make any sense. What?
Do we say to the God of death? Not right, right?
Not today. It was like, what am I going to
say? What am I going to do there?
It would have been perform the whole.
It would have been performative. Stop it you.
You would have been a loving presence.
Well, I yes, I'm a loving presence in every room I walk
into, but it's like I would have been, but it would not have
cured the sick. I don't believe I have the
ability to cure the, you know, until.
You try, Gary, How do you know until you try?
All right. But anyway, all right, so, so
you're saying you think that that could have been a thing?
I don't know, I'm just saying it was, it was a quick blip in my
head. I was like, you're just going
through things because sometimes when you get a reading or
something like that, you don't it doesn't make sense until
after. And you're like, Oh my gosh.
So like John OK and my brother, it's like the the initials JS.
She kept saying JS as well. That's my husband too.
The significance with the bridge.
Then I kept thinking maybe that's nobody knew where he was
right before the accident. And I'm and when she said George
Washington Bridge and, and the part about where he died, it's
like, you know, that could have been him trying to tell who
knows, tell us where he was beforehand.
Was there before him? Was there a bridge there or was
it underpass? Though not right there coming
from, you know, it was like, you know, where it was around, but
who knows? I don't know.
But the bridge thing, he worked on bridges.
It was a team. That's what I said.
He used to say, oh, I'm building bridges.
And yeah, yeah, he drove the Arrow trucks and he's like, he
loved it. He was like, he loved it.
He was like. Hey, did you figure?
Don't say who it was here, but did you figure out who I bleeped
out? You know, I was talking about
who I bleeped out in the thing. Don't say who it is.
I think so, yeah. Yeah, OK, We tell me after.
We can't tell everybody because it's it'd be mean, but it's a.
Now the part with I mean, she described him because that's how
he would come through with that restless energy and always
going. And the protector, I mean he was
fierce, fierce protector, fiercely loyal.
Family is everything. You know, he wouldn't.
He'd maybe show up like 3 hours late on a holiday.
He'd walk in like the Hallelujah Chorus was playing behind him.
It was just like he's this big booming presence.
And that's true. He was, it was like a defender.
I mean, when I was, you know, when we were kids and teenagers
and stuff, he wouldn't let me go out with any of his friends.
You know, I was like, no, you can't.
You knew my sister. You know, he was like, that was
that was him. October.
Oh my God, it was like your birthday.
Well. That's my birthday, right?
That's the one that's let you know.
But that could be fat. Like that was the only one where
it's. Like found if you did like a
serial. That could be found.
That's even right. I mean, that could be found.
So, you know, we'll give. But I, I tend to believe now
that I know Kathy and I Kathy and have seen the rest of it.
I don't believe she looked I, I truly don't believe she I.
Don't believe? And you know what?
Yeah, I think she found, yeah. If she did, which I don't
believe she did, there's like precious nothing about you.
Anywhere. No, I keep it real.
And by the way, people don't realize I between the time I set
that up and had that call with her was a couple days.
It was only a couple days. I mean, for her to have done a
like a massive amount of research on it would have been,
you know, got. A life.
You know, yeah, yeah. She's got a life.
Look up this one. Yeah, right.
She's like this. She's like, this guy's not
paying me. This podcast ain't shit.
I don't know who these people are.
I'm like, I don't need to try hard.
I'll do him a favor. You know what she did?
So yeah, she did. She's awesome.
I like her, I like her. Everything about her I really
love. Her, Yeah, yeah, she's.
Cool. Anyway, the whole part was out
of the country. There's no way that they've ever
known that. The boy on the swing.
Oh my gosh. So that hit a nerve.
That is you because not only did Grandpa great, you know our
grandmother's husband, you were so little B, you would get, he
would swing you. He used to swing us hours on the
swing, on the swing. But Mommy used to make me and
our brother take you to the swings.
So she'd get rid of all, all of us out of her hair while she was
busy cleaning the house. And we'd make you huge messes
and we would be in the swings with you, pushing you on the
swings for, oh, my gosh, for like, hours.
So for me and him, that was like, yeah, yeah, that's you,
Swing boy. 1717 is also not only our grandfather, our
grandmother's husband, who he loved.
He was like a father to him, but also our stepdad, who he adored.
And the plumbing issue at that time, unless it's the funny part
that that freaked me out a little bit.
OK, plumbing issue, right? You know the whole number.
She got she was big on that plumbing issue she kept.
Like, what is she talking about? But right around that time, keep
thinking it was when you aired it, when you aired it.
But no, she was getting a reading from then.
Mommy, they had this huge plumbing thing.
It was like this biggest thing and it was all about doing it
the right way. And it was a huge, big deal they
had to go through. Where?
Where was this? Part in the bathroom and in
their bedroom. They had to redo the whole
bathroom. So I think he was watching and
he knew that's what I got out of it because it was like after the
with the. You mean that?
You mean recent? You mean recent?
They didn't even think of it. They recently redid.
The bathroom, bedroom, and she was taught and she specifically
was very recent. Some of these things are right.
Some of these things spirit is can be looking at now, not just
you know, I'm not reading your past or whatever this is
whatever they're telling me. So to me, I was like, oh.
Yeah. That's the 17 and the plotting.
I was like, there's she's talking about, you know, our dad
there. He's he's yeah, I know what
she's talking about. Obviously the Mary or Marie was
like, OK, there's Mommy. There's a ton of those.
Yeah, that's hard. Sure.
It's hard to narrow down the dog.
Well, Mom thinks. Mom thinks the dog was Gail's
dog. No, it may be she may.
She may have that one too. But Gail's dog was white.
Yes. And I will tell you what freaked
me out when I talked to John all the time, all the time.
And when I had put my one dog down and then the second one, I
told them to go find him. Then I told before when I was,
you know, in the vet and we were putting, putting them down.
Of course I'm sobbing and broken hearted and I'd said told him go
find, go find my brother. You know, he'll take care of
you. Go find my brother.
And when she said she's got, he's got this little dark dog.
It was like sort of black but sort of brown.
That was that, Amy. You talking about Amy?
Yes, it was Amy. Bella was the brown one.
Yeah, Amy was the the darker one.
Yeah, I was. Like sobbing.
I was like, he's, he's saying that he he heard it and got her.
When was that? When was that?
That I don't know a. Couple years ago.
I can get up and go find that little.
I have their little no no. That's all right, but what was
it a couple years ago? Yeah, four years ago it was pre
COVID, wasn't it? Yeah.
Oh yeah, 2018. It was wow because.
It was locked in. Oh OK, 2019-2020.
OK, so then the oh, oh, this is the other thing about your wife,
Gary. Great.
I know when she was talking about this is what I was
thinking when when because of COVID and she was having all the
issues and stuff. I was thinking when she was
saying about, you know, all the everything that she said about
who's going back and forth to the doctor.
Whoever this woman is that's watching over her was
acknowledging that she was going back and forth to the doctor
that couldn't figure out what was wrong.
She was having all these issues. So whatever little guardian
Angel she's got watching out for her saw and knew what he was
going to that's. Maybe, but we didn't.
To be honest, we didn't hit the doctors a lot during that when
she was sick with COVID. No, but it doesn't.
We were like on lockdown for a month, right?
But it doesn't have to be then either.
It could be after when she's trying to figure out what's
going on. But anyway, that's.
Possible. That's possible.
That is an option. The whole thing with I don't
know if the T name I. Could what was it, Tom?
What did they say, Tom or Tim? Tim, do you know?
Was his best friend. His best friend, right?
That's what you said to me during the window.
Texted me I'm. Not going to go into that store
because it's a really sad, sad story and it's connected to so
many things that I can't say that I won't say right now, but.
Some people think you guys look alike in the chat, by the way,
we're getting a lot of they look you guys see.
It I'll tell you a funny story, but.
You got to knock your tooth out though.
How? About that, yeah.
Knock the tooth out, then you look Jack.
The tooth out, then you'll be identical.
Twins. She's going to tell you the
story about when I did the Christmas Carol and I put a wig
on and I look just like my mother.
Exactly. I'll I'll, I'll thump it up
before she goes on a long winded rant about it.
It was that simple. I played the ghost to Christmas
present. He was here, he goes to
Christmas present, which is so fitting for him, but he he look
at people thought it was me. Yeah, that's funny all.
Right, sorry, sorry to interrupt.
I want to acknowledge the chat every now and again on these
lives, make sure they know they were there for them.
Hello Meows. Hello Meows.
All right, so go ahead. So.
Right. So where'd you leave off?
You're talking about the doctors.
That could be a thing. Well, that was just that the
whole part with what's it? Oh, to me, I got it probably
maybe before you when you were texting me about the the weather
vane and the barn and the water. I'm like, he's watching over
your kids. Well, that yes, I knew that,
that yes. Like for sure, goodness, I
sensed that. Because that would be so him,
you know? Well, the water was freakier
than the barn because the because at the time, remember,
this is my first time sitting with her.
So she brings up the barn and I had posted pictures.
I did. Now, first of all, my, my
personal account is private, right?
So unless you can't see it, so no one can see it, but I had
posted pictures of my kid on a horse, you know, in school,
right? So that was like, well, maybe
that's a possibility. Maybe there's access to that.
But the water I had not right? And that's a big part.
Like that was brand new at the time and it's a lot of water and
a lot of time in the water. So.
So it's. And, and just, and just to
stress this, just to let, let me distress this point with the
whole watching over and, and all this I growing up would I, I
spoke to probably Uncle John more than like everybody, just
because the fact that I was always bumping into him.
I think a lot of the times he was following me around and
checking where I was. You really like, I mean, I'm
talking about hanging out at friends house.
He would show up, you know, at the pizzeria, he would show up,
you know, he was just always, always there.
And there were so many times where I was like, he's got to be
watching me. He's got to be seeing what I'm
doing because I was into some wild stuff, hanging out with
100%. So that's him.
That's what he would do. He was definitely just that
protector, that watcher that, you know, strong overall
presence. And I can attest to that.
It wasn't like, you know, family says, oh, yeah, they're this.
No, no, no. This is the way this man was
like would drop everything he is doing just to make sure that AB
and C is done. And AB and C was his family.
So he was like that, Yeah. So anyway, I had to just, you
know, throw that in there, stress that point since we're
talking about this. Now it's definitely true.
Keep going, this is good stuff. They're my notes, so the the
part, it's good notes. The battling religion, you know,
I agree with what you said. I mean you know me and John took
you to the church with a candle. You were like 5 years old and
you baptized but also think. Secret baptisms.
The secret baptisms getting here now.
This is just in in paranormal news, boy is kidnapped by mother
for a secret baptism in the Catholic Church.
So insane he. Battled with a lot of stuff and
there was one point where I know within himself, and I know this
because he wrote a letter and mommy has it with him battling
in his own self about God and his faith and he felt like he
finally he was up on some mountain and he found God.
And to me that was very significant for that.
I know you what you believe and you believe or what you don't
believe in, but this is my own feeling.
So there you go with that. When she was talking about the
tattoos and like Danzig and the misfits and the skull and the
whole thing, I was like, Oh my gosh, the images and she's
talking about an Angel. I think I was like, yes, because
he was sleeved. He had like heaven and hell and
the whole accent thing. I think you both have the back
thing but not but his was. I have a no no.
I have like an Angel up.
Here OK and and the tattoo place was quite the famous one and he
I mean God this God he I mean he had so many friends that he hung
out with that were like celebrity people and friends and
the skull I don't know if I can even say it on here can I know
what he's not about the. Yeah, the Hell's Angels.
Yes. Yeah, you don't say.
Why can't you say it? Why can't you say you could talk
about all that's fine. Okay, and they were I.
Mean he's dead. Dude, we were talking.
About his tattoos and they. Were very I mean, he had dear,
dear friends and was always with them and they were awesome.
I mean the. His funeral was in a way, if you
remember how hilarious it was, where you saw leather like, you
know. Cuts.
On one side and then you saw like the like the Goodfellas
bowling shirts on the other on. The other.
Yeah, but I remember we went to move, help him move one time in
Port Richard. He picked up he picked up John
and his two of his little Hells Angels friends and help him
move. And he gets these big guys get
in the car and they're like teddy bears and they're so sweet
and so awesome and like they helped him do all this stuff.
But the skull on the on the gas tank, you know, is like a big
that's their thing, you know. So anyway, that's what I thought
of those awesome guys. So he.
Also he also had skulls adorning everything if you don't remember
his his tool boxes, his his guitars I I mean.
The skull, the skull thing at that time though, let's face it
even. I mean, look, dude, I got
skulls. We got fucking skulls
everywhere. Like everything is skulls.
Dude. I got a goddamn skull on my iPad
on my on my Earpod case. Oh my gosh, I love, I love
skulls. Can I tell you why I love them
skulls and skeletons? Because total different
perspective. From an art perspective, I think
they're like an armature, you know, like God's armature.
And then he creates all of these people and they're to me,
they're beautiful. I look at them, they don't scare
me. They're like, wow, that's
amazing. Underneath of everybody.
Everybody is different because of the armature.
Yeah, that's the same, I think. I'm pretty sure I heard Jeffrey
Dahmer and Ed Gein say that and as they made bowls out.
Of their skills? Psycho, probably.
Right. Yeah, yeah, you're right up
there with them. You're right up there with the
psychos. This just in.
This just in people who love skulls like psychopaths.
Oh, look at Mama Santa's fridge. I'm over for.
Dinner. Look at my lovable.
Look at all my collectibles. A new cookbook by Mama's.
And that made from real puppy skulls.
We're breaking out the good China this Thanksgiving.
That's. A good Spode's coming out.
Oh my God. All right.
Let's see what. Yeah, but like, but like, we all
love Skull. Like anybody who likes
Rock'n'roll or something has a thing for skulls, right?
You know, Alien. In you the whole memento Moray,
you know, it's it's like it's not a scary thing.
It's sort of a a respectful thing.
I don't know. But he had a lot of the classic,
but he had a lot of the right, a lot of the classic almost cliche
symbol tattoos, right, the Angel and the Panther claw.
And I don't think the barbed wire thing was his generation.
I think he just missed it. But if he if it was, he would
have had it. He would have.
You know what I mean? If like 10 years later that he
would have had a barbed wire tattoo, like, you know, one of
those guys, he would. Have.
He would have. You know, there there wasn't a
lot of originality artwork in the tattoos he chose, You know
what I mean? Like, let's be real.
No, and and the the artists who did them too were pretty cool
for for their that genre of what they did, they were like the
best of the best too. Yeah, sure.
Used to go to chose in. Melbourne.
It was fun, yeah, but they were fun.
So anyway, that's. So that's most of my notes.
That's good stuff, man, That's wild.
I didn't know a couple of those things.
And that's really good connection, right?
You forget about and it's so stupid that I didn't put the JS,
the JS initials together. It's like in the moment you
don't, you don't realize like how many JS initials we have in
the. I know it's like.
Hello. You just don't see it.
I know it's pretty wild though, right?
That's something. Look guys like, you know Kathy
Nadal again, you can go into the link tree in the splintered
spirits bio. You should get a reading from
from her. I mean, it's, it is, it's good.
It's a different kind of thing and it's the way she the way she
approaches it. And I don't know, maybe it'll
hit you in a way that but and you know what she's she's great
about. She's always says give it a
minute, you know, like, think about it.
What I like about her is that she doesn't fish.
You know, she's not like throwing things out and fishing
because there's a lot of slimy, charlatan people that are.
They're just come on, you know, it's not real.
It's. Claire Vagueness.
As we've learned, that's a. Good one, Claire.
Vagueness, but. Yeah, Walmart helps.
You know, yeah, yeah. And she's not she's, you know,
she's, you could tell she's coming from a place of respect
#1 which I really like. Which is also the reason I'm
proud of you with what you do with even in the cemeteries,
cleaning the gravestones, It's a huge, respectful way that you go
about it. And you should be proud of
yourself with that, too. But yeah, I really, I liked her.
I like the way she goes about it.
I like how she puts it out there and she she doesn't fish.
You know, it's like, this is what they're telling me.
This is what I'm seeing is the way I'm seeing it.
And, you know, take it, write it down and and chew on it later.
Yeah, that's what she said. That's what's wild too, right?
Like she said that like you're probably not going to know it.
Now think about it. Let's see if anything comes to
you. Talk to people, see what's up.
But yeah, so you know that episode guys, we just re dropped
it with video. It's more it's almost like 3
times as long as the original that I that I dropped.
But we're it's up there on wherever podcasts are.
You can watch it. It's a good one.
Really good to know her and see what she does.
And again, get yourself reading. Kathy, thank you for jumping in
it. Was.
Fun. Yeah, you.
Guys. All right, I'm going to let you
go. OK, I love you both.
I love you too. Love you, let me say goodbye to
you and go about your day. I will talk to you later, see.
You later, mom. Bye love.
You. Love you too can.
You disconnect me. I can.
It's the awkward part of all video conference calls when
everyone's looking for the hang up button.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take out it happens.
It happens to everybody. So that's pretty wild I mean,
it's good she pointed out a couple extra things.
You know, it's you didn't know about it, but this is a good
episode for people to check out and it's I'm I'm slowly re
dropping the there's three Kathy episodes.
So hopefully by I mean we've got so many episodes now, like
that's crazy. But hopefully by the end of the
year, I think all three will be out will be re dropped with
video for everyone to see. And if they're they're fun ones
because she she really calls out some stuff.
Except for you it was about the spirits that are around you that
bombard and block her from getting in access.
It was so, yeah, it was so wild, like, and she was, she was
adamant that this was my like, past when I was a teenager, like
all this stuff. And for whatever reason, that's
how it was coming across to her, right.
But yeah, she's saying it. I'm like, wow, I'm not going to
say it yet, but wow. She's talking about this place.
She's talking about this place, She's talking about this place.
She's bringing up this, you know, I'm like, that's.
She really called it, but it's like to see my sister do that
and say and point out I didn't know about the swings.
I was too little for that. Yeah, You know, I.
Was. I wasn't even.
Around the and I didn't connect the plumbing thing, which was a
big, you know, nag fest and and story, you know, to hear about,
but that that could have been that too, right.
I mean, it couldn't. I can't think of another
plumbing thing and that's recent if he's watching.
That's. Wild.
She's so good. She's so creepy.
Yeah, it's just so weird, dude. It's so weird.
It would make sense. Ghost Ghost brother of the ghost
brother of someone's watching over and then his children.
I mean, listen. Tabs on you at all times.
At all times you listen, it makes it makes it makes sense
with his personality and the way he is right?
Like it just does like it's not like like IA Part of me knew
that if Kathy was legit, this would have happened, that this
was going to get brought up. She's he's a major death for the
both of us, right? He's someone that you know, we,
you know, I still dude, I don't know if this happens to you, but
there are times like at Christmas, I sometimes catch
myself going, Oh, where the Hell's, where the Hell's Uncle
John, you know, because of how late he always was the things.
And then it's like, oh, that's right, he's dead.
You know, like you just it's like, that's so like it makes
sense. If she wasn't legit, we wouldn't
be having this conversation. Let's just put it that way,
right? I mean, it's, it's so, so true.
And it was. It was, it's a it's a good one.
It's a good one. And you guys can all hear that
full reading now and. So are you, dude.
Where? So where?
Where are you? So right now I'm at the cottage.
I'm I'm actually in one of the cottage rooms, but currently and
I'm about. This is in sleepy.
Hollow. This is in Sleepy Hollow.
Yep, and I'm gonna head out. In a stacky season, it is.
What's the city like? What is the city like?
That town like right now? It's.
Gotta be just it's just all all. Headless Horseman shares this
Headless Horseman stuff everywhere you know it's.
Very. Do you think the kids growing up
in Sleepy Hollow, if they decide to be the headless arson for
Halloween, they get picked on? It's like, well, so an original
gym, Yeah. Yeah, right.
I don't know you. Know like I mean, or do they
have to do it or like is it just?
I think. But I also think that this day
and age, half of those kids don't even realize like the the
legend status of that to them, it's probably like, Oh yeah,
that's the. Only American monster dude.
Yeah, yeah, it's the original American Monster, dude.
The the original. American Monster.
Yeah. And you know, it's, it's pretty
wild. But going back to Kathy, if you
take out everything that happened, everything like we're
talking about, she never gave us readings.
She never said this, she never said that.
And we just took her and we put her in the fireplace room.
And that's the third episode that you're going to, right?
That episode is just like, I mean, is she?
She begged Edward. You know, like, like, do you?
Feel ghost man. Yeah, like Gotham, like, knew,
like, hey, you know, so that was wild in itself, right?
When she started giving details. And don't get me wrong, you
could research these details. You could if you really wanted
to. Oh yeah, but I can to to know
the stuff. That.
To know the stuff about your videos with you have 2000 videos
and it was and by the way, again between my reading with her and
then booking you at that moment was like 2 days.
Two days. There's no way she would have.
Been. She didn't.
I met her first before I even
said who my partner was to say we're doing this thing so she
didn't know. And even if she wasn't launched
yet, and even if she did, let's say that like, you know, she was
able to fit whatever you can't. You know when you sign on and
you go on TikTok and you watch my videos, you know what, what,
what, what isn't screaming at you in the face isn't Edward.
It's not the undisclosed location.
It's the the headstone cleaning and the cemetery walks.
And at that time, she didn't. Know yeah, she didn't we didn't
we didn't have the podcast so we recorded those yeah we were
still we were just we we were putting episodes in the can
before. We oh, that's right, we were all
in pre put up. Yeah, we were all in the the pre
parts of it all. Yeah, we didn't, we didn't
launch yet. We didn't launch till February.
So these were prior to that and then we had them in the can and
then we we dropped them. Then we dropped.
So that's right. Yeah.
So it's pretty wild. She's it's just she's a great
example of a real medium. Yeah.
He's a good one. We've had some good mediums on
the show. She's Kathy, our medium.
That's what I say now. Like she's like, I loved having.
We've had a few mediums on the show, like we've had a couple
authors and stuff. Sam Balchus, who's wrote the
book over there on Sleepy Hollow, Another.
Book. And he did.
Sam stayed here. Sam wrote about this place in
his book. Right, A lot of all the other
ghosts. It's not just the Headless
Horseman there guys. So that was that was
interesting. And Joni was interesting as a
medium. And then Amy Bulasky, of course,
she's probably one of the most popular on social media.
But Kathy is our medium because now she's she's just like, like
I said, man, I can't have I can never go to another medium and
have them say something. It's like, well, look, dude,
you've been watching the podcast, you've heard the
reading. Now you're just like, I don't,
I'll never. I don't know how to trust it,
you know? Yeah.
So yeah, I don't know what to do.
So I'm cursed in that respect, guys.
I'm A1 medium guy. You.
Know 1 medium guy. That's it. 1 medium guy and it's
funny you know, it's like when you talked about like with
Andrea Perrin from The Conjuring House who is so connected to
spirits and aliens and interdimensional things like she
doesn't consider herself she never went down that road right
here's somebody who. Could at all.
At all. But.
And here's a woman who could have gone down the road of, you
know, I am the medium. I know how to talk to spirits.
I can do this for you. I can do that for you.
And she never did. Yeah, yeah.
But she's like, yeah, I don't need to do that shit.
I've already seen it and lived it.
I'm not doing it. Yeah, she's so weird.
So we haven't even, we haven't even put out this episode and
she wants to come back on and talk into dimensional stuff.
So that's probably going to happen way down the line.
I know she's going to get better.
I fully believe she's going to get better.
She's very positive with her diagnosis and how she's handling
it. And I mean, she looked Judy, if
you during the interview, there's no way.
If I saw that woman, I watched the interview, we said nothing
about her being sick. I wouldn't.
I wouldn't never even know. Never would have known she's
she's she's on fire. You know, it's wild to the and
again, guys, this episode drops Tuesday with Andrew Perrin.
And if you want to see it early, we are.
It is available to you if you for members only.
So it's out there. The thing that's wild about it
is she is unapologetic about her beliefs and doesn't care.
And it's and she says some wild stuff.
Now, look, we always come from a place of belief.
I certainly, you know, I have no reason to disbelieve.
And she delivers it in such a fun way and such a heartfelt way
in her belief system that if like, if that makes her crazy
and insane, then I don't want to be sane.
You know what I mean? It's I don't want, it's just
like, that's fine. She's very happy.
She's doing it right. She loves she, she has a great
outlook on all on all things. And yeah, I'd like to get into
it with because there's a whole, there's I don't know how many
other tracks. There's only one thing she's not
interested in. That's cryptids.
That's crazy. Doesn't care about monsters, no.
No, right, That's it. Or New York.
Or New York.
It's. Brian, the mod would have
appreciated that. Finally, someone to get You know
she's not a fan of New York. Yeah, it's true.
But it's, well, I don't know if Brian doesn't like New York, but
I was saying she doesn't like New York.
Much like I goof on Pennsylvania, Yes, But yes, yes.
She was just a pleasant person, like I'm just a.
Pleasant person and great but but she talked about
interdimensional as a as a thing and and here's the thing.
Yeah. I mean, we got to have some
follow-ups on this too, because. And she she has station, she has
to do her research too because she even said it.
She brought up my documentation about how my documentation went
into dimensionals as well known. So she, she has to be a student
of it, you know what I mean? Like she has to be somebody that
actually like, pays attention. I think she calls around too.
I'm sure she doesn't calls around and took a look at things
and watch some stuff and see what people say.
So you know what's what I'm curious about, you know, talking
about that house, right? She calls it a, she said it
might be a portal, right? Like, why are there so many
spirits at The Conjuring house all these time?
And it's not all bad. It's something good and just
misunderstood. OK, I'm sorry to cut you off.
I love how she doesn't call it The Conjuring house.
She called for the farmhouse. I love that that is just what
you. Call it the Farm, I'm calling it
The Conjuring House for people who wonder what they were
talking about. So when she's talking about this
farmhouse as a portal of some kind, well, then I I still feel
we should burn it down for science.
Let's see if a new structure would have the same ghosts.
Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, that's what I that's what
I wanted to ask her, but we just didn't have time.
I wanted to. Ask her.
Hey, we'll have to get her back. Yeah, definitely.
I want to say, hey, let's say everything goes S with with with
the farmhouse and you know, Hoss isn't able to get it and someone
else buys it and goes, yeah, you know what?
We're boom. We're we're yeah, we're raising
it to the ground. That's it.
We're building something new here.
You know, I wanted to ask her, would you still think it would
be haunted? I think her answer would be yes,
just because we did touch on the woods a little bit.
Because guys, The Conjuring house, the farmhouse is on 200
acres. It's on 200 acres and there's a
lot of woods. So I.
Start with that creepy story with the kids and the.
Things she got into that whole thing with the with the 10 kids
that drowned and like all that. So because I asked about the
woods, I'm like, wait a minute, Everyone's always so focused on
on The Conjuring house. What about the rest of this
property? You know what's and and she
didn't get into details, she said.
She saw God. She she found God in the woods.
Yes. Yes, she said she found God in
the woods. She said that all of her
sisters, especially the one that passed away, had experiences in
the woods. I mean, that's wild.
I want to hit those woods so bad.
So bad. I could care less about the
farmhouse. I want to sink my teeth into the
woods. You know, I think there's
secrets. Well, look, man, you know, when
we asked, I asked her this straight point blank, you know,
is it when you hear her talk about this house, which took her
years to process, which is why we're, which is what interests
me. It felt a little, it feels a
little Stockholm syndrome or battered wife syndrome.
You know, it's why do you love this so much?
It seems like a horrible place to grow up.
It really seems like a terrible place to grow up.
Why? Why do you look back on it, If
that? But maybe that kind of trauma
really does mean something. And maybe she really did figure
out as you get older, what the spirits are so frustrated about
that were haunting her and why. But who am I to?
Chose. She also said there was a.
Lot of. She also said there was a lot of
good experiences, too, with the spirits.
She said it wasn't all bad. You know, it wasn't all bad.
And, you know, she touched on the on the on the Warrens a
little bit as well. And you know.
But again, but that's what I'm talking about with battered
Weissinger do not all bad. It's like, yeah, yeah, I punched
my teeth out. But the flowers are real nice.
So it's, it's, you know, it's those kind of things.
Are. Yeah, yeah.
You know, you gotta, it feels, it feels like trauma a lot.
Well, I also think. I also think.
Again, I don't know the woman, I just, I met her one time.
She seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and she
seems like she did a lot of processing through her life.
So who am I to say? She's she's this thing, she's
she's happy with it. She's doing it.
I'm happy to support what she wants to support.
I will say this by me seeing her, you don't.
If you've never seen her before, you don't think that that's who
you're going to see. She is very vibrant and very
like, it's like, wait a minute, you're, you're, you're that
you're, you're from that house. Like you're what you?
Know it's funny and let's look at our other guests, right like
Joni Mahan, who is The Who we spoke to the author, the goat,
you know she considers she is also feels that she's a ghost
magnet with horrible experience and you can see it in Joni's
eyes so you can see Joni is really trying to cope with how
to manage spirit being attracted to her and fight it off and it's
taking a toll on her in a way that is very different and how
Joni copes is very different with how Andrea copes, right.
I mean, it's a 2 wildly different perspectives on these
stories, but again. What was the what was the last
thing? She said she was working on
something. Do you remember what she said
she was working on? She said she was working on
something. Is it a self help, digital or?
No, Andrew's working. She's releasing a you know,
she's got a podcast episode coming out.
Let's tell you about that's I'm. Trying to remember.
What it was, I'll tell you. I know I wrote it down.
And her podcast is called Give Me a Moment Here, Folks.
She sent me so many texts, which I love.
It's like so great. Give me a moment here because I
was trying to figure out the link to it.
Yes, she's on KG KGRA podcast. It's called the world awakening
and she was bringing in all the caretakers of the house to do an
episode about that. So again, that's on KGRA.
Her podcast is called a world, a world awakening.
What she's going to be talking about it, but she's also she
believes that her next destiny is to survive this cancer, this
brain cancer she has and help other people fight cancer.
That is her. That is like what she firmly
believes is her destiny to she's going to beat this thing and
then she's going to help others who have it.
As you saw in the video I just showed you that you heard in
Reverb, but I promise you it's not in Reverb when you watch the
episode. That was just something that has
to do with playback here. I don't know what that what that
deal is, but just deal with the guys.
You can deal with the tech when we're live.
Yeah, but picking it out, I mean.
You get the gist. This just in paranormal news,
Conjuring House is up for sale. Go to the GoFundMe link in the
spirit split its spirits bio and donate $0.50 Two bits.
Anything overdue, Anything can help.
But it's true, man. If like, you know, help her out,
like you don't give a lot, but I mean it means a lot to this
woman and why not? Yes, Karina, there is a link in
my bio. I've said it 100 times in the
link tree in our bio, we have a link to Andrea Parent and to the
Go Fund me that she wants to get through.
You can now watch that episode early if you are a member to
splinter spirits on both Spotify and YouTube.
And I'll say it one more time for you folks.
If you start to complain on hey, why is Spotify cheaper than
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We might start doing sub only chats.
You get more stickers, there's more opportunities for live for
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membership gives you an advance on these things and I dropped
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everybody else cuts you're. Going to see him before
everybody else. Look, you're not going to see
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and you can watch it right now. And and that's good.
And if you want to learn something about ghost hunting
before Halloween comes, well, you just might want to pay a
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See it, but otherwise you can wait.
But it's there. We're not going to hold anything
back from you. No.
What time are you going to get started over there tonight?
Probably about 839 o'clock. Are you going?
Out to jump in the shower because I like to shower after I
do headstones especially. A lot of grind flies all over
the place and then yeah. Going to be What about Nets?
Are you doing that today or no? No, not tonight, not tonight.
He's travelling wherever he's travelling.
He's got to travel like 3-4 hours.
So you know, you know, it's instead of stressing it out him
trying to get there on time, it's better just to just skip.
It John, we got somebody, it's funny, just real quick to ask
you saying, hey, thank you very much for cleaning the
tombstones. This guy's on insta.
But I had a question. Isn't using an abrasive brush
damaging to the stone? Thank you.
Yeah, so well, it depends on your definition of abrasive.
I I do not recommend using metal or steel.
And abrasive brushes is a brush that uses a lot of strong
language and words. Yes.
Or yeah, exactly. Or a brush that yells at you
while you're doing it. I always.
That's an abrasive. Yeah, you can.
You can use, you know, nylon or Poly nylon brushes, right?
But I always say scrub lightly. You have to scrub lightly
because you don't want to wear the stone down more than it
already is. Most of these stones are already
weathered. So I scrub very, very lightly.
I scrub so lightly that sometimes the brush slips and I
end up slicing my hand because, you know, I'm not.
I'm not putting force down. So it's just fast movements it's
but yeah, no, you don't want to scrub it hard at all.
So you got that Vince? Vince Fine Arts on Insta.
Get yourself a nylon brush scrub.
Easy. Be gentle, treat it like a lady.
That's it, That's it. You know, treat it like a lady.
Yeah. Yeah.
What else? What else you want to tell the
good people? This is a good episode.
Good hour. Yeah.
Lots to go, lots to go through. Hope you guys enjoyed it.
Nothing that's about it. We got the the, you know, the we
got a lot coming out. We got a lot coming out and it's
going to be crazy. It's going to be wild.
So definitely. Guys, if you're watching on
Santa Paranormal, be sure to jump over to Splintered Spirits
and give us a like and a subscribe.
We would appreciate you very much.
It's been a fun hour today on Thursday and on Tuesday, the
Andrea Perrin episode. Unless you want to jump in
sooner. You have it, It's it's free will
guys, free will. You have the you can, you could
do it. You can do it if you want.
Do it. It's a it's going to be a great
episode. It's going to be a great.
Episode all right, Vince, we don't we don't recommend using
any spear boxes. That's that's not what we do
with the tombstones, unless you're trying to say Spirit Box,
which is John uses a variety of them variety of apps.
Just just today I used Transcend theory and Ghost.
Super original, yeah. All right, folks, that is it for
today's episode of Splintered Spirits.
We thank you so much for coming on.
Thank you. Thank you.
Appreciate you guys taking the time and watching and we'll
we'll see you next Thursday. Wait.
You hear that groove, you got the groove going.
Is the groove in reverb? No, the groove is not.
No, the groove is working. The groove is playing.
Thanks. Oh, oh, you got it.
You know it. You love it.
Split experience. You got it.
You know it. You know it.
Ghost. Ghost.
All right, folks.
Have a good one, thank you so much for watching.
Hey, Eric, I'll talk to you later.
I'll see you about Be safe today.
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