1 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,600 Oh, there he is. He's made it. 2 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,040 I've made it. What's up? 3 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,920 Dude they did. They actually had everything 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,640 ready for me. I didn't even my check in was 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,720 literally they met me at the door and handed me my key so it 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,800 worked out perfectly. Amazing. 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,600 Hopefully I don't have a bad echo in here in the room, but 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,680 you know. It's not so bad, not so bad. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,360 All right, dude, we got, we got a jam packed, lots of things to 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,440 talk about. Yes, we do. 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,960 Yes, we do. This before we get to our guest, 12 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:45,840 very special guest today to talk about this week's episode. 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,680 But all right, so let's get into it. 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,840 We had some amazing interviews coming up and one in particular, 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,640 I don't know if you guys got your latest edition of 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Paranormal News. If I got delivered, did you get 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,360 the latest edition of Paranormal News, John? 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,319 I did not get it but I'm planning on it. 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,560 Oh boy, the latest, the hottest thing in paranormal lose. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,800 So I mean, look, I don't know if, if, if you're listening and 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,360 $0.15 for the paranormal lose, but it's, it's look, everybody 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,560 that's that's interested in this space has probably heard one way 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,040 or another about what's going on with The Conjuring house. 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,880 And Jason Hawes is taking a lead in if you don't know Jason Hawes 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,720 is he's one of the guys, the original ghost hunters. 26 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 The TV show probably spawned the whole thing of why everybody 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,360 does paranormal on social media. One of the first guys to ever do 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,160 it. He is doing a GoFundMe to help 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:49,680 buy the house at the request of one of the former residents and 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,120 the family that owned it, Andrea Perrin. 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,320 And we were fortunate enough, John and I, to interview Andrea 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,000 this week. We are going to drop that 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,360 interview on Tuesday. It's going to be absolutely 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,840 awesome. I think you guys are going to 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,320 love it. She is an incredible guest. 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,759 I'm going to give you a little taste of it here in a second, 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,200 but this GoFundMe is real and she believes in it. 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,160 She wants the house. First of all, dude, I said this 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,920 Derek, right? I can't believe that she gives a 40 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,440 shit about this house after being haunted in it for 10. 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Especially, especially the fact that she doesn't investigate, 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,040 she doesn't document, she doesn't do anything like that. 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,840 You know, she's more of, you know, just her and she's been. 44 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,720 There. Yeah, she's been. 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:46,480 So she it's, it's, it is, it is. And we and guys, we had to ask, 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,320 why do you want to save this place? 47 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,400 Why? Like, what's the reason? 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,360 And, you know, she explained it to us. 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,080 She's got a great reason anyway, she, you know, she, she loves 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,360 it. Listen, Art, the interview we do 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,960 with it with Andrea is not about the differences between the 52 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,920 movie and how she lived it. You could find that everywhere. 53 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:04,880 There's a lot of wonderful interviews out there and 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,720 podcasts that have done that interview. 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,240 And she wrote 3 fucking books about it. 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,800 So buy the books. Also links to those books in our 57 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,560 link tree in Splendid Spirits. Same with the GoFundMe as well. 58 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,120 Same with the GoFundMe. And here's the thing, guys of 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,080 this yes, we're dropping it on Tuesday, but here's a little 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,280 secret. If you want to see it now, you 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,040 can. You can if you're watching us on 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:36,280 YouTube or Spotify, you can sign up and be a member and you can 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,360 get advanced episodes and you can watch them ahead of the 64 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,040 drop. Will we of course, always be 65 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,280 giving them away on Tuesdays? Yes. 66 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,600 But if you want to watch ahead, you can. 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,200 And since we just started this, you're not just going to get the 68 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Andrea Perrin episode. I've also made available the 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,920 upcoming Mike Dorsey episode. If you don't know who Mike is, 70 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,000 Mike is the executive producer of Ghost Hunter's House Calls. 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,280 He works with Zach Baggins a lot and he also has a brand new Ted 72 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,920 Bundy documentary on Fox Nation. He's just, you know, really 73 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:15,160 talking about how they film these TV shows and, and I've 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,720 also given you another episode in advance that you can have. 75 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,080 That's three episodes. Three episodes this, then 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Paranormal News 3 episodes, and that episode is with Steve 77 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,840 Parsons. Steve Parsons is AUK ghost 78 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:34,960 hunter, been doing it for 45 years. 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Unbelievably credible. He wrote this book, Ghostology. 80 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,680 I don't know if it's in focus or if it's backwards, but he wrote 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,480 this book. It is, I mean, honestly, if 82 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,080 you're if you're watching us here and you're an investigator 83 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,480 or you fancy yourself one and you haven't read that book, just 84 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,560 quit, just quit or wear a shirt that says you're a fraud because 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,000 he's I mean, that book that this guy is great. 86 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:02,760 And that was a great interview as well. 87 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,080 So listen, all right, the Spotify membership, it's a it's 88 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,400 a couple bucks and it's a couple bucks less than YouTube. 89 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Why? Why? 90 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:13,040 Well, because you don't get as much on Spotify. 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,920 You just get advanced. You just get the advance episode 92 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,120 on YouTube. It's a little bit more why? 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Why is it more because you get sub only chats, you get special 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,840 stickers and badges, which the kids love. 95 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,760 So it's all different, right? So we can spot you faster. 96 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,920 We can do it, you can donate, but they're there. 97 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,760 They're ready for you to listen. Let me just give you now a 98 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,680 little taste I want to share with you are a piece of the 99 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,600 interview with Andrea just so you can see the kind of woman 100 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,320 she is just a a clip that I made from that interview, which I 101 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,920 think is going to blow your minds a little bit. 102 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,840 I mean, she's just it really sums her up in in a nutshell. 103 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:53,480 I mean, she's so wild and so strong on what she's going 104 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,120 through because by the way, guys, she's got cancer and she's 105 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,440 still kill. I mean, she's just attitude in 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:04,280 life is amazing, you know? Oh, let me open this, do this 107 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:07,400 like this. Yeah, We get that open and then 108 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,240 we do a share screen. That's right. 109 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,960 I think we figured this out last time and we do that and we pop 110 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,320 this window and we say share audio. 111 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,520 It's only an extra $0.05. Only an extra 5. 112 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,000 For an extra $0.05, you can get the paranormal news. 113 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,080 All right, here we go. Let's see, share. 114 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,880 Let's see. All right, can everybody see 115 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,760 that? You can see that, right? 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,160 All right, let me press play on this. 117 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,600 No, I think that I'm supposed to have this cancer so that I can 118 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,000 heal from this cancer, so that I can write a book and tell other 119 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,640 people how to heal from cancer. I think that that's exactly 120 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,800 what's happening and that it's part of my mission. 121 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,800 It's part of my journey, and I embrace it. 122 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,360 I embrace it not as a perversion because of this cancer. 123 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,040 We're going to get the farmhouse back and we're going to save 124 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,920 that farmhouse. And I am so deeply grateful and 125 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,880 I am so humbled. And, and the I, I can't even 126 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,000 tell you the outreach for me, which would be my greatest 127 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,720 legacy. It would be my greatest legacy 128 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,560 to be any part of a pivotal part of, of changing the outcome and 129 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,520 the history of this House. Yeah, man. 130 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,960 So that's I'm going to drop that clip online tomorrow, but I just 131 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,120 want to give you guys a taste of it here now. 132 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,720 I'd say everybody that just heard that you can't pay for 133 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,040 those effects by the way, that's completely natural. 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,120 That's completely natural by the way. 135 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,880 I don't if everybody heard that. The way I heard it, it was like 136 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,640 you were watching it from another into dimensional portal. 137 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,160 What were you getting? Were you getting an audio? 138 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,480 Big time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 139 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,600 It was cool sounded. It was cool, sounded. 140 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,120 But it is, Well, I'm sorry about that, but look, you'll get a. 141 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Teaser it's a teaser, so they just it's. 142 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,760 A teaser? There won't be. 143 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,440 There won't be audio. But look, the point is we have a 144 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,960 big, this is a this is a legend in this paranormal space. 145 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Andrea Perrin, she has been through it. 146 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,280 One of the probably the most right now, the most famous 147 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,000 haunting thing you could probably deal with is The 148 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,120 Conjuring. She lived through it. 149 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,000 She was kind enough to share her story with us. 150 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,320 And really it's about how a person copes with that, 151 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,240 processes what happened and then survives it. 152 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,280 And that's kind of the angle we took. 153 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,200 That's what interests me. Like, how do you live in a place 154 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,640 and be like abused by ghosts for 10 years and then still be happy 155 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,600 about it and still have be sharp witted and still love your 156 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,919 family and still, you know, not. I mean, I told her straight. 157 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:34,559 Like I said, John, I told her straight up, I would have burned 158 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,640 that place to the ground. I don't want anything to do with 159 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,919 it Or, or, or I'd want to give that house to a couple a holes. 160 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:40,840 I know. Yeah. 161 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,280 Instead. Well, that's the thing. 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,600 We, we, you know, when, when she agreed to do the, the interview, 163 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,320 you know, both me and Gary, we're like, yeah, we're, we're 164 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,000 not doing what everybody else has done. 165 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:57,120 We, we've heard she's answered the same questions over and over 166 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,480 and over on all these other interviews, which are all great 167 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,360 by the way, and we watch them all, you know, they're awesome. 168 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,400 So there's plenty of people who covered it really. 169 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,560 Well, yeah. And, and, you know, so if you're 170 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:11,000 up to up and up to date with everything, you know, this is 171 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,080 going to be like, oh, wow. Like, this is really cool. 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Just getting her feedback on things. 173 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,320 And it was one of those interviews where we all just 174 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,120 were, I mean, I don't know, it was like, you know, we've known 175 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,360 each other for years type deal. The way we were talking to each 176 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,760 other, you know, she's wonderful. 177 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,120 Want to tell you this woman and she loved she's loved she's been 178 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,360 texting me all day. She like wants to help us and 179 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,400 like hook us up with, you know, get she's plugged in everybody. 180 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,360 I don't know man, it's just a great. 181 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,920 It was a really great vibe. She has a really great energy 182 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,960 and while I don't have a dog in this race for this house, I 183 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,560 certainly want her to have what she wants. 184 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:47,600 So please go to the link tree in my bio in the splintered spirits 185 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,240 bio anywhere and you can find you'll see a picture of her. 186 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,560 It is a link, direct link to this GoFundMe. 187 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,640 If everybody in this audience, I mean, John, if you have a 188 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,200 million followers, everybody gave $0.50. 189 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,280 They could buy two of these houses. 190 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,240 I mean, it's, you know, it's not it's not a lot. 191 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,440 So we're going to push for her while we can push for her and 192 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,880 and try to make it happen. Right. 193 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,560 All right, chat. So listen, let's get into the 194 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:14,880 business of the Week 2 here because I hope everyone did. 195 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,920 Everyone watch the reading because I dropped that reading. 196 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,360 So, Gary, real quick, let's, let's, let's refresh everybody 197 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,960 on that reading happened a while ago. 198 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,280 Even I need a refresher. So what was the, what was the 199 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,200 gist of, of, of your reading with Kathy, who's amazing, by 200 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,640 the way, If you haven't checked her out yet, please do. 201 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,480 Oh yeah, Kathy Nadal is a is a is a fan of the show. 202 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,160 First of all, Kathy Nadal just as a side point. 203 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Now I can never get another reading from anybody, right? 204 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,480 Because now that I've published this, I'm not going to trust 205 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,200 anybody else that they didn't see this. 206 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,120 And she was so thorough about the things that sort of that 207 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,200 could matter to me that it's, you know, what else could 208 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,000 somebody say that could do it? So, so she's my psychic, right? 209 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Kathy Nadal. I mean, I, I want to meet other 210 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,560 psychics, but and I want to hear what they have to say and I'm a 211 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,800 fan of them, but I couldn't possibly get a reading from one 212 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,040 and not be worried that they just listened to this. 213 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:11,480 So the thing about this reading was, you know, I lost my brother 214 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,880 several years ago and it seemed like that she was getting a lot 215 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,560 of vibes from him coming through. 216 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,280 First, the reading starts out with like some old woman who 217 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,040 could have been associated with my wife and it was like they she 218 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,800 she was dominating the scene. But then it started to push 219 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,560 through like this big personality, which may, it sort 220 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:36,800 of started to feel like it could have been my brother John. 221 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:44,360 So she said a lot of stuff in there that I was unsure of at 222 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,800 the time. So I had to bring in, you know, 223 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,880 I'm, we're going to bring in someone else who knew my brother 224 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,600 very well in a moment as a special guest 'cause I had, I 225 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,480 had her listen and see if she can read it. 226 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,280 I'll tell you when she's in. She's not in yet. 227 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,600 She'll be joining us soon. But that's, that's the gist of 228 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,080 it, man. Like it's wild some of that 229 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,840 stuff. And I can tell you even my 230 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,040 mother got into it, right. So she said, you know, she 231 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,800 brought up the number 17 on a jersey. 232 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,240 And my mother says that that #17 is my grandfather's, my mother's 233 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,560 father's birthday. And they were, you know, my 234 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:24,760 grandfather and John were somewhat, you know, they had a 235 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:31,040 relationship and, and close and then there was a dog or 236 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,160 something. And my brother loved his ex 237 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,760 girlfriend's dog. So there could have been 238 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,560 something there with that, right? 239 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,440 So it's like, I don't know, dude, it's nuts. 240 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,720 So but she got real specific and she got real. 241 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,080 If you watch, she got real specific. 242 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,960 She knew some things about like, like he was watching my kids and 243 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,800 he, he said things that were definitely not online at the 244 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,960 time, you know, about my kids, which is really, you know. 245 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Well, I and I think, I think the most wild thing, what I do 246 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,680 remember from all that, and this is how powerful it is, because 247 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:09,960 you guys know my brain, I believe she's the one that said 248 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,240 that you were away. Oh, you just froze up for a 249 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,520 second. Am I? 250 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,080 Am I here? Yeah, you're there. 251 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,080 Go. OK, You just. 252 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,280 Said I, I believe she was the one that said that you were away 253 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,200 when he passed, that you were. Traveling through that was the. 254 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,480 That was the. That was, yeah. 255 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,560 When I heard her say that, I was like, there is. 256 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,480 No way. There's no way. 257 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,040 I mean I don't know search. There's no way, No way. 258 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,200 Nobody would have known that. I can't. 259 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,160 I do for the life of me. And I started digging and I 260 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,720 started living at there's, you know. 261 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Yeah, there's yeah. There's no way. 262 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,720 It was so wild. Anyway, I had to point that out. 263 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,680 That was like. That was that was the turning 264 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,200 point, but that was the real turning point. 265 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,080 Led us to this point, right? Why, Why we're so like on this. 266 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:55,720 And that's what made me go, OK, you know what? 267 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,160 This on top of other things, this woman has an ability that 268 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,360 she's sharing with us. And and now we're going to dive 269 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,680 into exactly what she was saying. 270 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,680 Yeah, yeah. We're going to have a lot of fun 271 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:08,760 with it. So let's look at the chat real 272 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,400 quick before our guest joins us here. 273 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Let's see. Sorry, guys, we've been talking 274 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,200 a lot of business, a lot of business, a lot of business 275 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,040 about the paranormal news. The paranormal news, the news, 276 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,440 yes, it's in. It's all the news that fit the 277 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,120 print. The Cadre House is up for sale. 278 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,200 Who's going to get it? I don't know, but there's a 279 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,960 couple of people in the running and we're trying to do our do 280 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,480 our part. Do your part for the wall 281 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,880 effort. Give your part for the wall 282 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,720 rapper. Click that GoFundMe and donate, 283 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,520 donate, donate and. If you can't donate, make sure 284 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,960 you share it. If you can't, yes, share away. 285 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,560 If you can't donate, share all that's fit to print. 286 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,760 Be a good American. Save The Conjuring house, Yeah. 287 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,400 That's funny. But good for her, man. 288 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,360 I want to help her out. So yeah. 289 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,160 Oh, yeah. Put that. 290 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,400 Go fund me. That's what you miss, guys. 291 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,480 That's what you missed. All right, so our guest is here. 292 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:05,080 And our guest today is none other than my sister, your 293 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,160 mother. You know her. 294 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Oh, I know her. Kathy Santa, let's say hello 295 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,880 there. She is. 296 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,000 There she is. Hello my loves. 297 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,840 Hello, hello, hello, hello. My 2 loves. 298 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,680 Welcome. Thank you for having me. 299 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,120 Hi Mom. Yes, hi sweetheart. 300 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:27,840 How? Are you hello, Mother. 301 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,920 Hello. My little sweetheart. 302 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Look what you have bore. Yeah. 303 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,720 You're so awesome. Isn't it funny? 304 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,040 Like did you ever think that in in a million years that we we've 305 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,360 been doing a podcast talking about ghosts can. 306 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,800 I tell you, I blame myself because I think it's like all of 307 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,400 that, those little juice boxes with Slimer on them that he 308 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,080 drinks. Ecto Cooler. 309 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,720 I talk about Ecto Fuller all the time. 310 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,680 Ecto Fuller, what's the best? He had like every creature from 311 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,400 like Ghostbusters and the, the, the little party wagon thing and 312 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,800 the Oh my gosh, I blame myself. Yeah, Oh my God. 313 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,360 He's awesome. I have an awesome son. 314 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,280 The awesomest. Oh my, that's funny. 315 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,520 That is really funny. But I do blame myself. 316 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,480 We got the chat here saying what, a young looking mom. 317 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,920 They can't even believe it. Yeah. 318 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,840 You should see my mom. She's. 319 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Crazy. My mom. 320 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,960 Is great the abuse. That's a grandma right there. 321 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,760 I'm going to grandma by the. Way stop it. 322 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,520 I'm sorry, Gary. All right, hey, so we brought 323 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,800 you on because that you got that's the first time you ever 324 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,480 heard that full reading. You heard it right. 325 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Yeah, I mean, I didn't realize when you when Kathy was giving 326 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,000 you the reading. First of all, she's awesome. 327 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,040 I was texting you that's. Why? 328 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,000 So you can't realize that she was live on there? 329 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,600 I thought it was like after you were looking at something after 330 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,640 I didn't realize it and I was like, Oh my God, Gary, that's 331 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,520 that's our brother. You know right when she said he 332 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,599 was out of the country and there is no way I'm I. 333 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:07,400 Could I can't. I can't figure it out. 334 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,440 Like, yeah, ever. Known that there's there's just 335 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,319 no way. There's no way that one was 336 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:15,720 weird. There's no way that was the one. 337 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,440 There's a lot of other things too. 338 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,079 Some things I just did not. There's there's some things in 339 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:23,960 there I don't know either. Yeah, but what we're she saw she 340 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,440 brought up some names and some letters. 341 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,120 Can you like what, what did you what, what stuck out to you or 342 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,440 things that were questioner that I was questioning during it that 343 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,240 you might be able to shed some light on? 344 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,200 I made notes. OK, good. 345 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Now I want to hear it. Yeah, because I'm old. 346 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,760 I can't remember it. Yeah, we all have to make notes 347 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,040 for anything. That's right. 348 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,200 We got an old, we got an old crowd, another go out. 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,640 You got a lot of love here, Cat. A lot. 350 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:52,160 A lot of young, young mom. All the meows love you. 351 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,280 OK, Let's say. Yeah, I I wrote down, I can't 352 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,200 speak to, you know, the woman that came through for your wife. 353 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Yeah. No clue. 354 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,560 No one can. That's fine. 355 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,000 I. Didn't get it. 356 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,240 The the only thing was like the hair thing, you know, my 357 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,000 grandmother was a hairdresser forever and she never left the 358 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,600 house without lipstick. So, you know, first I thought 359 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,440 that, but then she was more leaning towards, you know, her 360 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,880 side's family. I said it's not for us, so 361 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,800 someday somebody will figure that out. 362 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Another thing not regarding our brother, but that stuck out to 363 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,680 me was when she was talking about like your timeline. 364 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,760 And you know, I can't speak to your own personal shifts and how 365 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,240 you felt about things, but I thought about, you know, your 366 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,760 father passed away, you know, like in 2016, right? 367 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,120 And. I thought I don't remember. 368 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:46,920 I really. Don't. 369 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,640 Think I'm terrible about it? I'm just saying, you know, I 370 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,800 think, you know, sometimes you don't know things affect people, 371 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,040 whatever. And your mind did too. 372 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,880 And we have the most awesome stepdad in the whole world, so. 373 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Right. But let me let me let me tell 374 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,880 you a story about like, you know, people are going to think 375 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,040 I'm horrible. You ready for this this? 376 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Is a pretty horrible don't say anything horrible. 377 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,120 I am. I'm going to say something 378 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:08,640 horrible. So there was a point. 379 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:13,280 There was a point. Listen, Katie, the wife and I 380 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,760 had tickets to see Lollapalooza in Chicago one year, right? 381 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Me and Katie, we're going to go. We were going to Chicago to see 382 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,640 Lollapalooza. I got friends out there and we 383 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,880 were going to go see her. And I get a call that my father 384 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,200 was in a coma. This is years before he died. 385 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,520 So I'm like, well, I got tickets to the show, right? 386 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Like, so I didn't tell Katie because Katie, my wife would 387 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,640 have made me go to the hospital. But like, what? 388 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,800 Is this like a fucking movie? Or am I going to sit there and 389 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,200 read a story to him and he's going to wake up miraculously 390 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,720 because of my voice. So I'm going to go to the show 391 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,720 and on Saturday or night or Sunday. 392 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,920 So bad. I said to Katie, I go, that's 393 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,720 what I told her and I said. I'm going to tell. 394 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,160 My kid, listen, because now we're in Chicago, we're close to 395 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,040 the East Coast. And I said, listen, there might 396 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,160 be. I might have to go from here. 397 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:05,080 To New York, my God, and. She was so mad at me and I was 398 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,480 like, well, we had a great weekend. 399 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,440 It would have ruined whole weekend. 400 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,240 When is he gonna wake this? Velvet Tones are gonna wake 401 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,440 everybody up like he's gonna wake you up from a coma. 402 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,640 But look, he he came out of the coma and he was just fired for a 403 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,840 couple more years, you know? But I was like, I wasn't, you 404 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,920 know? Yeah. 405 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,480 It just wasn't going to happen, you know? 406 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,800 It just didn't make any sense. What? 407 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,000 Do we say to the God of death? Not right, right? 408 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,120 Not today. It was like, what am I going to 409 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:30,880 say? What am I going to do there? 410 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,080 It would have been perform the whole. 411 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,320 It would have been performative. Stop it you. 412 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,440 You would have been a loving presence. 413 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,560 Well, I yes, I'm a loving presence in every room I walk 414 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,640 into, but it's like I would have been, but it would not have 415 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,760 cured the sick. I don't believe I have the 416 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,320 ability to cure the, you know, until. 417 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,400 You try, Gary, How do you know until you try? 418 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,360 All right. But anyway, all right, so, so 419 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,160 you're saying you think that that could have been a thing? 420 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,960 I don't know, I'm just saying it was, it was a quick blip in my 421 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,520 head. I was like, you're just going 422 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,480 through things because sometimes when you get a reading or 423 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,800 something like that, you don't it doesn't make sense until 424 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,560 after. And you're like, Oh my gosh. 425 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:16,480 So like John OK and my brother, it's like the the initials JS. 426 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,880 She kept saying JS as well. That's my husband too. 427 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,360 The significance with the bridge. 428 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,880 Then I kept thinking maybe that's nobody knew where he was 429 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,000 right before the accident. And I'm and when she said George 430 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,360 Washington Bridge and, and the part about where he died, it's 431 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:36,080 like, you know, that could have been him trying to tell who 432 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,520 knows, tell us where he was beforehand. 433 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,960 Was there before him? Was there a bridge there or was 434 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,800 it underpass? Though not right there coming 435 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,600 from, you know, it was like, you know, where it was around, but 436 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,240 who knows? I don't know. 437 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,400 But the bridge thing, he worked on bridges. 438 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,640 It was a team. That's what I said. 439 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,160 He used to say, oh, I'm building bridges. 440 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,160 And yeah, yeah, he drove the Arrow trucks and he's like, he 441 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,240 loved it. He was like, he loved it. 442 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,480 He was like. Hey, did you figure? 443 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Don't say who it was here, but did you figure out who I bleeped 444 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,360 out? You know, I was talking about 445 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:08,880 who I bleeped out in the thing. Don't say who it is. 446 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,760 I think so, yeah. Yeah, OK, We tell me after. 447 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,760 We can't tell everybody because it's it'd be mean, but it's a. 448 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Now the part with I mean, she described him because that's how 449 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,360 he would come through with that restless energy and always 450 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:23,320 going. And the protector, I mean he was 451 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,080 fierce, fierce protector, fiercely loyal. 452 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Family is everything. You know, he wouldn't. 453 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,440 He'd maybe show up like 3 hours late on a holiday. 454 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,320 He'd walk in like the Hallelujah Chorus was playing behind him. 455 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,880 It was just like he's this big booming presence. 456 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,120 And that's true. He was, it was like a defender. 457 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:47,160 I mean, when I was, you know, when we were kids and teenagers 458 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,280 and stuff, he wouldn't let me go out with any of his friends. 459 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,880 You know, I was like, no, you can't. 460 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,480 You knew my sister. You know, he was like, that was 461 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,880 that was him. October. 462 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,600 Oh my God, it was like your birthday. 463 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,920 Well. That's my birthday, right? 464 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,240 That's the one that's let you know. 465 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,320 But that could be fat. Like that was the only one where 466 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,600 it's. Like found if you did like a 467 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,560 serial. That could be found. 468 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,280 That's even right. I mean, that could be found. 469 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560 So, you know, we'll give. But I, I tend to believe now 470 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,560 that I know Kathy and I Kathy and have seen the rest of it. 471 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,040 I don't believe she looked I, I truly don't believe she I. 472 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,240 Don't believe? And you know what? 473 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,840 Yeah, I think she found, yeah. If she did, which I don't 474 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,360 believe she did, there's like precious nothing about you. 475 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,600 Anywhere. No, I keep it real. 476 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,720 And by the way, people don't realize I between the time I set 477 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,120 that up and had that call with her was a couple days. 478 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,040 It was only a couple days. I mean, for her to have done a 479 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,760 like a massive amount of research on it would have been, 480 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,880 you know, got. A life. 481 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,200 You know, yeah, yeah. She's got a life. 482 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Look up this one. Yeah, right. 483 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,480 She's like this. She's like, this guy's not 484 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,680 paying me. This podcast ain't shit. 485 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,760 I don't know who these people are. 486 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,640 I'm like, I don't need to try hard. 487 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,200 I'll do him a favor. You know what she did? 488 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:00,240 So yeah, she did. She's awesome. 489 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,560 I like her, I like her. Everything about her I really 490 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,400 love. Her, Yeah, yeah, she's. 491 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,160 Cool. Anyway, the whole part was out 492 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,880 of the country. There's no way that they've ever 493 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,080 known that. The boy on the swing. 494 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,600 Oh my gosh. So that hit a nerve. 495 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,840 That is you because not only did Grandpa great, you know our 496 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,000 grandmother's husband, you were so little B, you would get, he 497 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,120 would swing you. He used to swing us hours on the 498 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:33,200 swing, on the swing. But Mommy used to make me and 499 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,920 our brother take you to the swings. 500 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,320 So she'd get rid of all, all of us out of her hair while she was 501 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,240 busy cleaning the house. And we'd make you huge messes 502 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,920 and we would be in the swings with you, pushing you on the 503 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,960 swings for, oh, my gosh, for like, hours. 504 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,640 So for me and him, that was like, yeah, yeah, that's you, 505 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Swing boy. 1717 is also not only our grandfather, our 506 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,560 grandmother's husband, who he loved. 507 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,640 He was like a father to him, but also our stepdad, who he adored. 508 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,120 And the plumbing issue at that time, unless it's the funny part 509 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,680 that that freaked me out a little bit. 510 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,520 OK, plumbing issue, right? You know the whole number. 511 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,680 She got she was big on that plumbing issue she kept. 512 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,040 Like, what is she talking about? But right around that time, keep 513 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,840 thinking it was when you aired it, when you aired it. 514 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,920 But no, she was getting a reading from then. 515 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,160 Mommy, they had this huge plumbing thing. 516 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,120 It was like this biggest thing and it was all about doing it 517 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000 the right way. And it was a huge, big deal they 518 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,320 had to go through. Where? 519 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,600 Where was this? Part in the bathroom and in 520 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,800 their bedroom. They had to redo the whole 521 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,440 bathroom. So I think he was watching and 522 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,440 he knew that's what I got out of it because it was like after the 523 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,680 with the. You mean that? 524 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840 You mean recent? You mean recent? 525 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,760 They didn't even think of it. They recently redid. 526 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,800 The bathroom, bedroom, and she was taught and she specifically 527 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,360 was very recent. Some of these things are right. 528 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,800 Some of these things spirit is can be looking at now, not just 529 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,640 you know, I'm not reading your past or whatever this is 530 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,400 whatever they're telling me. So to me, I was like, oh. 531 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,920 Yeah. That's the 17 and the plotting. 532 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,960 I was like, there's she's talking about, you know, our dad 533 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:25,840 there. He's he's yeah, I know what 534 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,240 she's talking about. Obviously the Mary or Marie was 535 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,680 like, OK, there's Mommy. There's a ton of those. 536 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,120 Yeah, that's hard. Sure. 537 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,680 It's hard to narrow down the dog. 538 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,400 Well, Mom thinks. Mom thinks the dog was Gail's 539 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,080 dog. No, it may be she may. 540 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,680 She may have that one too. But Gail's dog was white. 541 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,560 Yes. And I will tell you what freaked 542 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,360 me out when I talked to John all the time, all the time. 543 00:26:53,960 --> 00:27:00,920 And when I had put my one dog down and then the second one, I 544 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,000 told them to go find him. Then I told before when I was, 545 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,480 you know, in the vet and we were putting, putting them down. 546 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,080 Of course I'm sobbing and broken hearted and I'd said told him go 547 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,480 find, go find my brother. You know, he'll take care of 548 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,520 you. Go find my brother. 549 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,680 And when she said she's got, he's got this little dark dog. 550 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,880 It was like sort of black but sort of brown. 551 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,280 That was that, Amy. You talking about Amy? 552 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,960 Yes, it was Amy. Bella was the brown one. 553 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,720 Yeah, Amy was the the darker one. 554 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,640 Yeah, I was. Like sobbing. 555 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,880 I was like, he's, he's saying that he he heard it and got her. 556 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,680 When was that? When was that? 557 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,160 That I don't know a. Couple years ago. 558 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,200 I can get up and go find that little. 559 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,920 I have their little no no. That's all right, but what was 560 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,840 it a couple years ago? Yeah, four years ago it was pre 561 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,960 COVID, wasn't it? Yeah. 562 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,560 Oh yeah, 2018. It was wow because. 563 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,000 It was locked in. Oh OK, 2019-2020. 564 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,480 OK, so then the oh, oh, this is the other thing about your wife, 565 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,160 Gary. Great. 566 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,600 I know when she was talking about this is what I was 567 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,760 thinking when when because of COVID and she was having all the 568 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,480 issues and stuff. I was thinking when she was 569 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,840 saying about, you know, all the everything that she said about 570 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,880 who's going back and forth to the doctor. 571 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,360 Whoever this woman is that's watching over her was 572 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,960 acknowledging that she was going back and forth to the doctor 573 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,360 that couldn't figure out what was wrong. 574 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,120 She was having all these issues. So whatever little guardian 575 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:36,440 Angel she's got watching out for her saw and knew what he was 576 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,360 going to that's. Maybe, but we didn't. 577 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,560 To be honest, we didn't hit the doctors a lot during that when 578 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,760 she was sick with COVID. No, but it doesn't. 579 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,680 We were like on lockdown for a month, right? 580 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,440 But it doesn't have to be then either. 581 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880 It could be after when she's trying to figure out what's 582 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,720 going on. But anyway, that's. 583 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,840 Possible. That's possible. 584 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,960 That is an option. The whole thing with I don't 585 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,800 know if the T name I. Could what was it, Tom? 586 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,000 What did they say, Tom or Tim? Tim, do you know? 587 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Was his best friend. His best friend, right? 588 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,240 That's what you said to me during the window. 589 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,000 Texted me I'm. Not going to go into that store 590 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,920 because it's a really sad, sad story and it's connected to so 591 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,720 many things that I can't say that I won't say right now, but. 592 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,800 Some people think you guys look alike in the chat, by the way, 593 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,840 we're getting a lot of they look you guys see. 594 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,040 It I'll tell you a funny story, but. 595 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,640 You got to knock your tooth out though. 596 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,680 How? About that, yeah. 597 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,960 Knock the tooth out, then you look Jack. 598 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,360 The tooth out, then you'll be identical. 599 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,800 Twins. She's going to tell you the 600 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,320 story about when I did the Christmas Carol and I put a wig 601 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,800 on and I look just like my mother. 602 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,480 Exactly. I'll I'll, I'll thump it up 603 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,520 before she goes on a long winded rant about it. 604 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160 It was that simple. I played the ghost to Christmas 605 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960 present. He was here, he goes to 606 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,080 Christmas present, which is so fitting for him, but he he look 607 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,000 at people thought it was me. Yeah, that's funny all. 608 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,360 Right, sorry, sorry to interrupt. 609 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,160 I want to acknowledge the chat every now and again on these 610 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,800 lives, make sure they know they were there for them. 611 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,240 Hello Meows. Hello Meows. 612 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,440 All right, so go ahead. So. 613 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Right. So where'd you leave off? 614 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,840 You're talking about the doctors. 615 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,440 That could be a thing. Well, that was just that the 616 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:12,640 whole part with what's it? Oh, to me, I got it probably 617 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,960 maybe before you when you were texting me about the the weather 618 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,680 vane and the barn and the water. I'm like, he's watching over 619 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,920 your kids. Well, that yes, I knew that, 620 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,000 that yes. Like for sure, goodness, I 621 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,040 sensed that. Because that would be so him, 622 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,800 you know? Well, the water was freakier 623 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,240 than the barn because the because at the time, remember, 624 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,440 this is my first time sitting with her. 625 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,960 So she brings up the barn and I had posted pictures. 626 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,440 I did. Now, first of all, my, my 627 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,800 personal account is private, right? 628 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,800 So unless you can't see it, so no one can see it, but I had 629 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,160 posted pictures of my kid on a horse, you know, in school, 630 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,640 right? So that was like, well, maybe 631 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,040 that's a possibility. Maybe there's access to that. 632 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,440 But the water I had not right? And that's a big part. 633 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,840 Like that was brand new at the time and it's a lot of water and 634 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,240 a lot of time in the water. So. 635 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,840 So it's. And, and just, and just to 636 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,840 stress this, just to let, let me distress this point with the 637 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:12,240 whole watching over and, and all this I growing up would I, I 638 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,480 spoke to probably Uncle John more than like everybody, just 639 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,080 because the fact that I was always bumping into him. 640 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,200 I think a lot of the times he was following me around and 641 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,920 checking where I was. You really like, I mean, I'm 642 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,680 talking about hanging out at friends house. 643 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,920 He would show up, you know, at the pizzeria, he would show up, 644 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,400 you know, he was just always, always there. 645 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,040 And there were so many times where I was like, he's got to be 646 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,000 watching me. He's got to be seeing what I'm 647 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,440 doing because I was into some wild stuff, hanging out with 648 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,280 100%. So that's him. 649 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,680 That's what he would do. He was definitely just that 650 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,520 protector, that watcher that, you know, strong overall 651 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,240 presence. And I can attest to that. 652 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800 It wasn't like, you know, family says, oh, yeah, they're this. 653 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240 No, no, no. This is the way this man was 654 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,000 like would drop everything he is doing just to make sure that AB 655 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,040 and C is done. And AB and C was his family. 656 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,640 So he was like that, Yeah. So anyway, I had to just, you 657 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,600 know, throw that in there, stress that point since we're 658 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,240 talking about this. Now it's definitely true. 659 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,760 Keep going, this is good stuff. They're my notes, so the the 660 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,960 part, it's good notes. The battling religion, you know, 661 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,960 I agree with what you said. I mean you know me and John took 662 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,320 you to the church with a candle. You were like 5 years old and 663 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,560 you baptized but also think. Secret baptisms. 664 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,560 The secret baptisms getting here now. 665 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,320 This is just in in paranormal news, boy is kidnapped by mother 666 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680 for a secret baptism in the Catholic Church. 667 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,280 So insane he. Battled with a lot of stuff and 668 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,960 there was one point where I know within himself, and I know this 669 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,920 because he wrote a letter and mommy has it with him battling 670 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:09,480 in his own self about God and his faith and he felt like he 671 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,040 finally he was up on some mountain and he found God. 672 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,960 And to me that was very significant for that. 673 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,640 I know you what you believe and you believe or what you don't 674 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,000 believe in, but this is my own feeling. 675 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,520 So there you go with that. When she was talking about the 676 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:29,760 tattoos and like Danzig and the misfits and the skull and the 677 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,960 whole thing, I was like, Oh my gosh, the images and she's 678 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,280 talking about an Angel. I think I was like, yes, because 679 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,600 he was sleeved. He had like heaven and hell and 680 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,040 the whole accent thing. I think you both have the back 681 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,960 thing but not but his was. I have a no no. 682 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,720 I have a no no. I have like an Angel up. 683 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Here OK and and the tattoo place was quite the famous one and he 684 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,560 I mean God this God he I mean he had so many friends that he hung 685 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,840 out with that were like celebrity people and friends and 686 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,160 the skull I don't know if I can even say it on here can I know 687 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,560 what he's not about the. Yeah, the Hell's Angels. 688 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,159 Yes. Yeah, you don't say. 689 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,440 Why can't you say it? Why can't you say you could talk 690 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,719 about all that's fine. Okay, and they were I. 691 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,679 Mean he's dead. Dude, we were talking. 692 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,199 About his tattoos and they. Were very I mean, he had dear, 693 00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:26,360 dear friends and was always with them and they were awesome. 694 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,920 I mean the. His funeral was in a way, if you 695 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,719 remember how hilarious it was, where you saw leather like, you 696 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,880 know. Cuts. 697 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,440 On one side and then you saw like the like the Goodfellas 698 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,400 bowling shirts on the other on. The other. 699 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:45,000 Yeah, but I remember we went to move, help him move one time in 700 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,159 Port Richard. He picked up he picked up John 701 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,800 and his two of his little Hells Angels friends and help him 702 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,400 move. And he gets these big guys get 703 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,640 in the car and they're like teddy bears and they're so sweet 704 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,400 and so awesome and like they helped him do all this stuff. 705 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,440 But the skull on the on the gas tank, you know, is like a big 706 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,160 that's their thing, you know. So anyway, that's what I thought 707 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,320 of those awesome guys. So he. 708 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,720 Also he also had skulls adorning everything if you don't remember 709 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,080 his his tool boxes, his his guitars I I mean. 710 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,360 The skull, the skull thing at that time though, let's face it 711 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,760 even. I mean, look, dude, I got 712 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,800 skulls. We got fucking skulls 713 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,240 everywhere. Like everything is skulls. 714 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,400 Dude. I got a goddamn skull on my iPad 715 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,800 on my on my Earpod case. Oh my gosh, I love, I love 716 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,200 skulls. Can I tell you why I love them 717 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600 skulls and skeletons? Because total different 718 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,240 perspective. From an art perspective, I think 719 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:52,280 they're like an armature, you know, like God's armature. 720 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,240 And then he creates all of these people and they're to me, 721 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,360 they're beautiful. I look at them, they don't scare 722 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480 me. They're like, wow, that's 723 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,400 amazing. Underneath of everybody. 724 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,600 Everybody is different because of the armature. 725 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,840 Yeah, that's the same, I think. I'm pretty sure I heard Jeffrey 726 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,280 Dahmer and Ed Gein say that and as they made bowls out. 727 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,840 Of their skills? Psycho, probably. 728 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,720 Right. Yeah, yeah, you're right up 729 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:14,960 there with them. You're right up there with the 730 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,160 psychos. This just in. 731 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,120 This just in people who love skulls like psychopaths. 732 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:28,960 Oh, look at Mama Santa's fridge. I'm over for. 733 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,680 Dinner. Look at my lovable. 734 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,040 Look at all my collectibles. A new cookbook by Mama's. 735 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,960 And that made from real puppy skulls. 736 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,960 We're breaking out the good China this Thanksgiving. 737 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,800 That's. A good Spode's coming out. 738 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:45,480 Oh my God. All right. 739 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,080 Let's see what. Yeah, but like, but like, we all 740 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,440 love Skull. Like anybody who likes 741 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,240 Rock'n'roll or something has a thing for skulls, right? 742 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,800 You know, Alien. In you the whole memento Moray, 743 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,000 you know, it's it's like it's not a scary thing. 744 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,160 It's sort of a a respectful thing. 745 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,680 I don't know. But he had a lot of the classic, 746 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,200 but he had a lot of the right, a lot of the classic almost cliche 747 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,120 symbol tattoos, right, the Angel and the Panther claw. 748 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,520 And I don't think the barbed wire thing was his generation. 749 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,680 I think he just missed it. But if he if it was, he would 750 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,960 have had it. He would have. 751 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,560 You know what I mean? If like 10 years later that he 752 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,760 would have had a barbed wire tattoo, like, you know, one of 753 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,720 those guys, he would. Have. 754 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,040 He would have. You know, there there wasn't a 755 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,520 lot of originality artwork in the tattoos he chose, You know 756 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,800 what I mean? Like, let's be real. 757 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,520 No, and and the the artists who did them too were pretty cool 758 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,440 for for their that genre of what they did, they were like the 759 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,920 best of the best too. Yeah, sure. 760 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,640 Used to go to chose in. Melbourne. 761 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,080 It was fun, yeah, but they were fun. 762 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,480 So anyway, that's. So that's most of my notes. 763 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,560 That's good stuff, man, That's wild. 764 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,680 I didn't know a couple of those things. 765 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,040 And that's really good connection, right? 766 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,600 You forget about and it's so stupid that I didn't put the JS, 767 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,400 the JS initials together. It's like in the moment you 768 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,040 don't, you don't realize like how many JS initials we have in 769 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,480 the. I know it's like. 770 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,800 Hello. You just don't see it. 771 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,800 I know it's pretty wild though, right? 772 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,960 That's something. Look guys like, you know Kathy 773 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,840 Nadal again, you can go into the link tree in the splintered 774 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,480 spirits bio. You should get a reading from 775 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,160 from her. I mean, it's, it is, it's good. 776 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,560 It's a different kind of thing and it's the way she the way she 777 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,040 approaches it. And I don't know, maybe it'll 778 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,880 hit you in a way that but and you know what she's she's great 779 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,880 about. She's always says give it a 780 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,680 minute, you know, like, think about it. 781 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,880 What I like about her is that she doesn't fish. 782 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,280 You know, she's not like throwing things out and fishing 783 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,600 because there's a lot of slimy, charlatan people that are. 784 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200 They're just come on, you know, it's not real. 785 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,440 It's. Claire Vagueness. 786 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000 As we've learned, that's a. Good one, Claire. 787 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,240 Vagueness, but. Yeah, Walmart helps. 788 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,360 You know, yeah, yeah. And she's not she's, you know, 789 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,200 she's, you could tell she's coming from a place of respect 790 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,160 #1 which I really like. Which is also the reason I'm 791 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,600 proud of you with what you do with even in the cemeteries, 792 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,840 cleaning the gravestones, It's a huge, respectful way that you go 793 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,680 about it. And you should be proud of 794 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,880 yourself with that, too. But yeah, I really, I liked her. 795 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,840 I like the way she goes about it. 796 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,640 I like how she puts it out there and she she doesn't fish. 797 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,400 You know, it's like, this is what they're telling me. 798 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,360 This is what I'm seeing is the way I'm seeing it. 799 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,600 And, you know, take it, write it down and and chew on it later. 800 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,040 Yeah, that's what she said. That's what's wild too, right? 801 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,760 Like she said that like you're probably not going to know it. 802 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,400 Now think about it. Let's see if anything comes to 803 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,800 you. Talk to people, see what's up. 804 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,120 But yeah, so you know that episode guys, we just re dropped 805 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,080 it with video. It's more it's almost like 3 806 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,360 times as long as the original that I that I dropped. 807 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,200 But we're it's up there on wherever podcasts are. 808 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,520 You can watch it. It's a good one. 809 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,960 Really good to know her and see what she does. 810 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,320 And again, get yourself reading. Kathy, thank you for jumping in 811 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,160 it. Was. 812 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,440 Fun. Yeah, you. 813 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,480 Guys. All right, I'm going to let you 814 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,000 go. OK, I love you both. 815 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,360 I love you too. Love you, let me say goodbye to 816 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,800 you and go about your day. I will talk to you later, see. 817 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,680 You later, mom. Bye love. 818 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,560 You. Love you too can. 819 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,000 You disconnect me. I can. 820 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,640 It's the awkward part of all video conference calls when 821 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,400 everyone's looking for the hang up button. 822 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take out it happens. 823 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,920 It happens to everybody. So that's pretty wild I mean, 824 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,520 it's good she pointed out a couple extra things. 825 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,760 You know, it's you didn't know about it, but this is a good 826 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:48,080 episode for people to check out and it's I'm I'm slowly re 827 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,320 dropping the there's three Kathy episodes. 828 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,840 So hopefully by I mean we've got so many episodes now, like 829 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,080 that's crazy. But hopefully by the end of the 830 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,320 year, I think all three will be out will be re dropped with 831 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,480 video for everyone to see. And if they're they're fun ones 832 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,400 because she she really calls out some stuff. 833 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,560 Except for you it was about the spirits that are around you that 834 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:22,360 bombard and block her from getting in access. 835 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,280 It was so, yeah, it was so wild, like, and she was, she was 836 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,120 adamant that this was my like, past when I was a teenager, like 837 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,360 all this stuff. And for whatever reason, that's 838 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,920 how it was coming across to her, right. 839 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,440 But yeah, she's saying it. I'm like, wow, I'm not going to 840 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,240 say it yet, but wow. She's talking about this place. 841 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,840 She's talking about this place, She's talking about this place. 842 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,480 She's bringing up this, you know, I'm like, that's. 843 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,400 She really called it, but it's like to see my sister do that 844 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,400 and say and point out I didn't know about the swings. 845 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,160 I was too little for that. Yeah, You know, I. 846 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,040 Was. I wasn't even. 847 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,720 Around the and I didn't connect the plumbing thing, which was a 848 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:05,520 big, you know, nag fest and and story, you know, to hear about, 849 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,160 but that that could have been that too, right. 850 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,520 I mean, it couldn't. I can't think of another 851 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,440 plumbing thing and that's recent if he's watching. 852 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:11,720 That's. Wild. 853 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:13,320 She's so good. She's so creepy. 854 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,960 Yeah, it's just so weird, dude. It's so weird. 855 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:23,400 It would make sense. Ghost Ghost brother of the ghost 856 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,200 brother of someone's watching over and then his children. 857 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,320 I mean, listen. Tabs on you at all times. 858 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,800 At all times you listen, it makes it makes it makes sense 859 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,320 with his personality and the way he is right? 860 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,080 Like it just does like it's not like like IA Part of me knew 861 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,320 that if Kathy was legit, this would have happened, that this 862 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:48,040 was going to get brought up. She's he's a major death for the 863 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040 both of us, right? He's someone that you know, we, 864 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,840 you know, I still dude, I don't know if this happens to you, but 865 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,800 there are times like at Christmas, I sometimes catch 866 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,960 myself going, Oh, where the Hell's, where the Hell's Uncle 867 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,840 John, you know, because of how late he always was the things. 868 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,640 And then it's like, oh, that's right, he's dead. 869 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,840 You know, like you just it's like, that's so like it makes 870 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,200 sense. If she wasn't legit, we wouldn't 871 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,720 be having this conversation. Let's just put it that way, 872 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,600 right? I mean, it's, it's so, so true. 873 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,480 And it was. It was, it's a it's a good one. 874 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,080 It's a good one. And you guys can all hear that 875 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,760 full reading now and. So are you, dude. 876 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,320 Where? So where? 877 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,360 Where are you? So right now I'm at the cottage. 878 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,480 I'm I'm actually in one of the cottage rooms, but currently and 879 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,520 I'm about. This is in sleepy. 880 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,080 Hollow. This is in Sleepy Hollow. 881 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,880 Yep, and I'm gonna head out. In a stacky season, it is. 882 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,240 What's the city like? What is the city like? 883 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:44,520 That town like right now? It's. 884 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:50,200 Gotta be just it's just all all. Headless Horseman shares this 885 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,120 Headless Horseman stuff everywhere you know it's. 886 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,040 Very. Do you think the kids growing up 887 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,280 in Sleepy Hollow, if they decide to be the headless arson for 888 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,280 Halloween, they get picked on? It's like, well, so an original 889 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,960 gym, Yeah. Yeah, right. 890 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,040 I don't know you. Know like I mean, or do they 891 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,480 have to do it or like is it just? 892 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,040 I think. But I also think that this day 893 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,600 and age, half of those kids don't even realize like the the 894 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,120 legend status of that to them, it's probably like, Oh yeah, 895 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,800 that's the. Only American monster dude. 896 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,760 Yeah, yeah, it's the original American Monster, dude. 897 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,080 The the original. American Monster. 898 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,760 Yeah. And you know, it's, it's pretty 899 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600 wild. But going back to Kathy, if you 900 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,960 take out everything that happened, everything like we're 901 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,240 talking about, she never gave us readings. 902 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,400 She never said this, she never said that. 903 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,280 And we just took her and we put her in the fireplace room. 904 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,200 And that's the third episode that you're going to, right? 905 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,960 That episode is just like, I mean, is she? 906 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:56,200 She begged Edward. You know, like, like, do you? 907 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,120 Feel ghost man. Yeah, like Gotham, like, knew, 908 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,640 like, hey, you know, so that was wild in itself, right? 909 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,240 When she started giving details. And don't get me wrong, you 910 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:09,000 could research these details. You could if you really wanted 911 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,720 to. Oh yeah, but I can to to know 912 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:12,960 the stuff. That. 913 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,720 To know the stuff about your videos with you have 2000 videos 914 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:23,600 and it was and by the way, again between my reading with her and 915 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,600 then booking you at that moment was like 2 days. 916 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,320 Two days. There's no way she would have. 917 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:28,800 Been. She didn't. 918 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,520 She didn't. I met her first before I even 919 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,160 said who my partner was to say we're doing this thing so she 920 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,120 didn't know. And even if she wasn't launched 921 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,240 yet, and even if she did, let's say that like, you know, she was 922 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:48,880 able to fit whatever you can't. You know when you sign on and 923 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,440 you go on TikTok and you watch my videos, you know what, what, 924 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,520 what, what isn't screaming at you in the face isn't Edward. 925 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,200 It's not the undisclosed location. 926 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,800 It's the the headstone cleaning and the cemetery walks. 927 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,840 And at that time, she didn't. Know yeah, she didn't we didn't 928 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,240 we didn't have the podcast so we recorded those yeah we were 929 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,640 still we were just we we were putting episodes in the can 930 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,480 before. We oh, that's right, we were all 931 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,560 in pre put up. Yeah, we were all in the the pre 932 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,680 parts of it all. Yeah, we didn't, we didn't 933 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:19,880 launch yet. We didn't launch till February. 934 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,280 So these were prior to that and then we had them in the can and 935 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,000 then we we dropped them. Then we dropped. 936 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,160 So that's right. Yeah. 937 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,280 So it's pretty wild. She's it's just she's a great 938 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,600 example of a real medium. Yeah. 939 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,680 He's a good one. We've had some good mediums on 940 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,840 the show. She's Kathy, our medium. 941 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,400 That's what I say now. Like she's like, I loved having. 942 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,720 We've had a few mediums on the show, like we've had a couple 943 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,000 authors and stuff. Sam Balchus, who's wrote the 944 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,640 book over there on Sleepy Hollow, Another. 945 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,320 Book. And he did. 946 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,960 Sam stayed here. Sam wrote about this place in 947 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,640 his book. Right, A lot of all the other 948 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,720 ghosts. It's not just the Headless 949 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,920 Horseman there guys. So that was that was 950 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,640 interesting. And Joni was interesting as a 951 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,280 medium. And then Amy Bulasky, of course, 952 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,480 she's probably one of the most popular on social media. 953 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,360 But Kathy is our medium because now she's she's just like, like 954 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,120 I said, man, I can't have I can never go to another medium and 955 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,120 have them say something. It's like, well, look, dude, 956 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,440 you've been watching the podcast, you've heard the 957 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,800 reading. Now you're just like, I don't, 958 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,320 I'll never. I don't know how to trust it, 959 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:20,560 you know? Yeah. 960 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,240 So yeah, I don't know what to do. 961 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:24,720 So I'm cursed in that respect, guys. 962 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,920 I'm A1 medium guy. You. 963 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,480 Know 1 medium guy. That's it. 1 medium guy and it's 964 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,440 funny you know, it's like when you talked about like with 965 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,880 Andrea Perrin from The Conjuring House who is so connected to 966 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,560 spirits and aliens and interdimensional things like she 967 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,280 doesn't consider herself she never went down that road right 968 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,440 here's somebody who. Could at all. 969 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:50,520 At all. But. 970 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,640 And here's a woman who could have gone down the road of, you 971 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,360 know, I am the medium. I know how to talk to spirits. 972 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,920 I can do this for you. I can do that for you. 973 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,880 And she never did. Yeah, yeah. 974 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,360 But she's like, yeah, I don't need to do that shit. 975 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,880 I've already seen it and lived it. 976 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,760 I'm not doing it. Yeah, she's so weird. 977 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,320 So we haven't even, we haven't even put out this episode and 978 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,880 she wants to come back on and talk into dimensional stuff. 979 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,560 So that's probably going to happen way down the line. 980 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,320 I know she's going to get better. 981 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,480 I fully believe she's going to get better. 982 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:26,000 She's very positive with her diagnosis and how she's handling 983 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,600 it. And I mean, she looked Judy, if 984 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,000 you during the interview, there's no way. 985 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,040 If I saw that woman, I watched the interview, we said nothing 986 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,840 about her being sick. I wouldn't. 987 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,760 I wouldn't never even know. Never would have known she's 988 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:45,360 she's she's on fire. You know, it's wild to the and 989 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,520 again, guys, this episode drops Tuesday with Andrew Perrin. 990 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,240 And if you want to see it early, we are. 991 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,800 It is available to you if you for members only. 992 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,240 So it's out there. The thing that's wild about it 993 00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:05,960 is she is unapologetic about her beliefs and doesn't care. 994 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,640 And it's and she says some wild stuff. 995 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,320 Now, look, we always come from a place of belief. 996 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,720 I certainly, you know, I have no reason to disbelieve. 997 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,840 And she delivers it in such a fun way and such a heartfelt way 998 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,720 in her belief system that if like, if that makes her crazy 999 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,480 and insane, then I don't want to be sane. 1000 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,360 You know what I mean? It's I don't want, it's just 1001 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,200 like, that's fine. She's very happy. 1002 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,720 She's doing it right. She loves she, she has a great 1003 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,800 outlook on all on all things. And yeah, I'd like to get into 1004 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,920 it with because there's a whole, there's I don't know how many 1005 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,560 other tracks. There's only one thing she's not 1006 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,960 interested in. That's cryptids. 1007 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,040 That's crazy. Doesn't care about monsters, no. 1008 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,080 No, right, That's it. Or New York. 1009 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,440 Or New York. Or New York. 1010 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:50,960 It's. Brian, the mod would have 1011 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,320 appreciated that. Finally, someone to get You know 1012 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,680 she's not a fan of New York. Yeah, it's true. 1013 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,320 But it's, well, I don't know if Brian doesn't like New York, but 1014 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,440 I was saying she doesn't like New York. 1015 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,280 Much like I goof on Pennsylvania, Yes, But yes, yes. 1016 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,120 She was just a pleasant person, like I'm just a. 1017 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,440 Pleasant person and great but but she talked about 1018 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,560 interdimensional as a as a thing and and here's the thing. 1019 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,680 Yeah. I mean, we got to have some 1020 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,720 follow-ups on this too, because. And she she has station, she has 1021 00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:23,960 to do her research too because she even said it. 1022 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:29,000 She brought up my documentation about how my documentation went 1023 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,720 into dimensionals as well known. So she, she has to be a student 1024 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:35,320 of it, you know what I mean? Like she has to be somebody that 1025 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,360 actually like, pays attention. I think she calls around too. 1026 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,640 I'm sure she doesn't calls around and took a look at things 1027 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,560 and watch some stuff and see what people say. 1028 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,480 So you know what's what I'm curious about, you know, talking 1029 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,400 about that house, right? She calls it a, she said it 1030 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,360 might be a portal, right? Like, why are there so many 1031 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,480 spirits at The Conjuring house all these time? 1032 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,480 And it's not all bad. It's something good and just 1033 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,520 misunderstood. OK, I'm sorry to cut you off. 1034 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,320 I love how she doesn't call it The Conjuring house. 1035 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,600 She called for the farmhouse. I love that that is just what 1036 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,960 you. Call it the Farm, I'm calling it 1037 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,760 The Conjuring House for people who wonder what they were 1038 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,600 talking about. So when she's talking about this 1039 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:21,560 farmhouse as a portal of some kind, well, then I I still feel 1040 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,280 we should burn it down for science. 1041 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,040 Let's see if a new structure would have the same ghosts. 1042 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,040 Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, that's what I that's what 1043 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,800 I wanted to ask her, but we just didn't have time. 1044 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,080 I wanted to. Ask her. 1045 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,720 Hey, we'll have to get her back. Yeah, definitely. 1046 00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:38,200 I want to say, hey, let's say everything goes S with with with 1047 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,000 the farmhouse and you know, Hoss isn't able to get it and someone 1048 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,720 else buys it and goes, yeah, you know what? 1049 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,800 We're boom. We're we're yeah, we're raising 1050 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,720 it to the ground. That's it. 1051 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,120 We're building something new here. 1052 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,880 You know, I wanted to ask her, would you still think it would 1053 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,280 be haunted? I think her answer would be yes, 1054 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,000 just because we did touch on the woods a little bit. 1055 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,360 Because guys, The Conjuring house, the farmhouse is on 200 1056 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,680 acres. It's on 200 acres and there's a 1057 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,520 lot of woods. So I. 1058 00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,960 Start with that creepy story with the kids and the. 1059 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,800 Things she got into that whole thing with the with the 10 kids 1060 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,000 that drowned and like all that. So because I asked about the 1061 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,760 woods, I'm like, wait a minute, Everyone's always so focused on 1062 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,200 on The Conjuring house. What about the rest of this 1063 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,680 property? You know what's and and she 1064 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,800 didn't get into details, she said. 1065 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,400 She saw God. She she found God in the woods. 1066 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,920 Yes. Yes, she said she found God in 1067 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,080 the woods. She said that all of her 1068 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,240 sisters, especially the one that passed away, had experiences in 1069 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,160 the woods. I mean, that's wild. 1070 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,680 I want to hit those woods so bad. 1071 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,440 So bad. I could care less about the 1072 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,800 farmhouse. I want to sink my teeth into the 1073 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,120 woods. You know, I think there's 1074 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,040 secrets. Well, look, man, you know, when 1075 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,480 we asked, I asked her this straight point blank, you know, 1076 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,280 is it when you hear her talk about this house, which took her 1077 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,360 years to process, which is why we're, which is what interests 1078 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,840 me. It felt a little, it feels a 1079 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,840 little Stockholm syndrome or battered wife syndrome. 1080 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,080 You know, it's why do you love this so much? 1081 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,320 It seems like a horrible place to grow up. 1082 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,080 It really seems like a terrible place to grow up. 1083 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,080 Why? Why do you look back on it, If 1084 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,920 that? But maybe that kind of trauma 1085 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,880 really does mean something. And maybe she really did figure 1086 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,720 out as you get older, what the spirits are so frustrated about 1087 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,240 that were haunting her and why. But who am I to? 1088 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:29,520 Chose. She also said there was a. 1089 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,160 Lot of. She also said there was a lot of 1090 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,840 good experiences, too, with the spirits. 1091 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,840 She said it wasn't all bad. You know, it wasn't all bad. 1092 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,160 And, you know, she touched on the on the on the Warrens a 1093 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,600 little bit as well. And you know. 1094 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,200 But again, but that's what I'm talking about with battered 1095 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,960 Weissinger do not all bad. It's like, yeah, yeah, I punched 1096 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,640 my teeth out. But the flowers are real nice. 1097 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,080 So it's, it's, you know, it's those kind of things. 1098 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:50,760 Are. Yeah, yeah. 1099 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,720 You know, you gotta, it feels, it feels like trauma a lot. 1100 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,280 Well, I also think. I also think. 1101 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,080 Again, I don't know the woman, I just, I met her one time. 1102 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,600 She seems like she's got a good head on her shoulders and she 1103 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,280 seems like she did a lot of processing through her life. 1104 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,520 So who am I to say? She's she's this thing, she's 1105 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,800 she's happy with it. She's doing it. 1106 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,760 I'm happy to support what she wants to support. 1107 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,320 I will say this by me seeing her, you don't. 1108 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,360 If you've never seen her before, you don't think that that's who 1109 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,240 you're going to see. She is very vibrant and very 1110 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:27,240 like, it's like, wait a minute, you're, you're, you're that 1111 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,760 you're, you're from that house. Like you're what you? 1112 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,560 Know it's funny and let's look at our other guests, right like 1113 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,480 Joni Mahan, who is The Who we spoke to the author, the goat, 1114 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,120 you know she considers she is also feels that she's a ghost 1115 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,640 magnet with horrible experience and you can see it in Joni's 1116 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:50,680 eyes so you can see Joni is really trying to cope with how 1117 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,800 to manage spirit being attracted to her and fight it off and it's 1118 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,640 taking a toll on her in a way that is very different and how 1119 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,600 Joni copes is very different with how Andrea copes, right. 1120 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,840 I mean, it's a 2 wildly different perspectives on these 1121 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,760 stories, but again. What was the what was the last 1122 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,040 thing? She said she was working on 1123 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,400 something. Do you remember what she said 1124 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,880 she was working on? She said she was working on 1125 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,640 something. Is it a self help, digital or? 1126 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,760 No, Andrew's working. She's releasing a you know, 1127 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,680 she's got a podcast episode coming out. 1128 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,960 Let's tell you about that's I'm. Trying to remember. 1129 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,400 What it was, I'll tell you. I know I wrote it down. 1130 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:42,480 And her podcast is called Give Me a Moment Here, Folks. 1131 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,200 She sent me so many texts, which I love. 1132 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,520 It's like so great. Give me a moment here because I 1133 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,800 was trying to figure out the link to it. 1134 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:58,400 Yes, she's on KG KGRA podcast. It's called the world awakening 1135 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,800 and she was bringing in all the caretakers of the house to do an 1136 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,320 episode about that. So again, that's on KGRA. 1137 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:11,000 Her podcast is called a world, a world awakening. 1138 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,240 What she's going to be talking about it, but she's also she 1139 00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:21,840 believes that her next destiny is to survive this cancer, this 1140 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,120 brain cancer she has and help other people fight cancer. 1141 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,920 That is her. That is like what she firmly 1142 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,440 believes is her destiny to she's going to beat this thing and 1143 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,840 then she's going to help others who have it. 1144 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:41,960 As you saw in the video I just showed you that you heard in 1145 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,160 Reverb, but I promise you it's not in Reverb when you watch the 1146 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,600 episode. That was just something that has 1147 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,440 to do with playback here. I don't know what that what that 1148 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,120 deal is, but just deal with the guys. 1149 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,040 You can deal with the tech when we're live. 1150 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,920 Yeah, but picking it out, I mean. 1151 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,640 You get the gist. This just in paranormal news, 1152 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,560 Conjuring House is up for sale. Go to the GoFundMe link in the 1153 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,320 spirit split its spirits bio and donate $0.50 Two bits. 1154 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,440 Anything overdue, Anything can help. 1155 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,640 But it's true, man. If like, you know, help her out, 1156 00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,280 like you don't give a lot, but I mean it means a lot to this 1157 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,560 woman and why not? Yes, Karina, there is a link in 1158 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,400 my bio. I've said it 100 times in the 1159 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,920 link tree in our bio, we have a link to Andrea Parent and to the 1160 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,720 Go Fund me that she wants to get through. 1161 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,200 You can now watch that episode early if you are a member to 1162 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,160 splinter spirits on both Spotify and YouTube. 1163 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,360 And I'll say it one more time for you folks. 1164 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,520 If you start to complain on hey, why is Spotify cheaper than 1165 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,560 YouTube? Because you get more on YouTube. 1166 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,800 We might start doing sub only chats. 1167 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,560 You get more stickers, there's more opportunities for live for 1168 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,480 accessibility. So that gives you more and if 1169 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,440 this starts to progress, we may start doing member only episodes 1170 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,520 to give you guys stuff. So, you know, but right now the 1171 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,440 membership gives you an advance on these things and I dropped 1172 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,120 three episodes to start you off. So you get to see him before 1173 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,200 everybody else cuts you're. Going to see him before 1174 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,400 everybody else. Look, you're not going to see 1175 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,080 that Steve Parsons episode till November unless you sign up now 1176 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,040 and you can watch it right now. And and that's good. 1177 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,680 And if you want to learn something about ghost hunting 1178 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,480 before Halloween comes, well, you just might want to pay a 1179 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,000 little bit, give give a little money. 1180 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,160 See it, but otherwise you can wait. 1181 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,720 But it's there. We're not going to hold anything 1182 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,800 back from you. No. 1183 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,280 What time are you going to get started over there tonight? 1184 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,960 Probably about 839 o'clock. Are you going? 1185 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,120 Out to jump in the shower because I like to shower after I 1186 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,200 do headstones especially. A lot of grind flies all over 1187 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,560 the place and then yeah. Going to be What about Nets? 1188 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,520 Are you doing that today or no? No, not tonight, not tonight. 1189 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,040 He's travelling wherever he's travelling. 1190 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,480 He's got to travel like 3-4 hours. 1191 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,800 So you know, you know, it's instead of stressing it out him 1192 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,000 trying to get there on time, it's better just to just skip. 1193 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,880 It John, we got somebody, it's funny, just real quick to ask 1194 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,840 you saying, hey, thank you very much for cleaning the 1195 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,400 tombstones. This guy's on insta. 1196 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,320 But I had a question. Isn't using an abrasive brush 1197 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,800 damaging to the stone? Thank you. 1198 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,680 Yeah, so well, it depends on your definition of abrasive. 1199 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,880 I I do not recommend using metal or steel. 1200 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,360 And abrasive brushes is a brush that uses a lot of strong 1201 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,040 language and words. Yes. 1202 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,440 Or yeah, exactly. Or a brush that yells at you 1203 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,480 while you're doing it. I always. 1204 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,400 That's an abrasive. Yeah, you can. 1205 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,560 You can use, you know, nylon or Poly nylon brushes, right? 1206 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,840 But I always say scrub lightly. You have to scrub lightly 1207 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,760 because you don't want to wear the stone down more than it 1208 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,160 already is. Most of these stones are already 1209 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,360 weathered. So I scrub very, very lightly. 1210 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,880 I scrub so lightly that sometimes the brush slips and I 1211 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,600 end up slicing my hand because, you know, I'm not. 1212 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:08,480 I'm not putting force down. So it's just fast movements it's 1213 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,720 but yeah, no, you don't want to scrub it hard at all. 1214 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,480 So you got that Vince? Vince Fine Arts on Insta. 1215 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,880 Get yourself a nylon brush scrub. 1216 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,880 Easy. Be gentle, treat it like a lady. 1217 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,840 That's it, That's it. You know, treat it like a lady. 1218 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:24,800 Yeah. Yeah. 1219 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,320 What else? What else you want to tell the 1220 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,920 good people? This is a good episode. 1221 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,080 Good hour. Yeah. 1222 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,240 Lots to go, lots to go through. Hope you guys enjoyed it. 1223 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,960 Nothing that's about it. We got the the, you know, the we 1224 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,760 got a lot coming out. We got a lot coming out and it's 1225 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,840 going to be crazy. It's going to be wild. 1226 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,560 So definitely. Guys, if you're watching on 1227 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,800 Santa Paranormal, be sure to jump over to Splintered Spirits 1228 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,640 and give us a like and a subscribe. 1229 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,240 We would appreciate you very much. 1230 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,680 It's been a fun hour today on Thursday and on Tuesday, the 1231 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,200 Andrea Perrin episode. Unless you want to jump in 1232 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,840 sooner. You have it, It's it's free will 1233 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,040 guys, free will. You have the you can, you could 1234 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,680 do it. You can do it if you want. 1235 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,000 Do it. It's a it's going to be a great 1236 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,200 episode. It's going to be a great. 1237 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,080 Episode all right, Vince, we don't we don't recommend using 1238 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,920 any spear boxes. That's that's not what we do 1239 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,680 with the tombstones, unless you're trying to say Spirit Box, 1240 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,120 which is John uses a variety of them variety of apps. 1241 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,280 Just just today I used Transcend theory and Ghost. 1242 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,640 Super original, yeah. All right, folks, that is it for 1243 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,280 today's episode of Splintered Spirits. 1244 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,120 We thank you so much for coming on. 1245 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,680 Thank you. Thank you. 1246 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,400 Appreciate you guys taking the time and watching and we'll 1247 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,560 we'll see you next Thursday. Wait. 1248 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,960 You hear that groove, you got the groove going. 1249 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,920 Is the groove in reverb? No, the groove is not. 1250 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,440 No, the groove is working. The groove is playing. 1251 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,000 Thanks. Oh, oh, you got it. 1252 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,080 You know it. You love it. 1253 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,080 Split experience. You got it. 1254 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,720 You know it. You know it. 1255 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:12,680 Ghost. Ghost. 1256 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:13,680 Ghost. Ghost. 1257 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,720 Ghost. Ghost. 1258 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,080 Ghost. All right, folks. 1259 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,480 Have a good one, thank you so much for watching. 1260 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,360 Hey, Eric, I'll talk to you later. 1261 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,120 I'll see you about Be safe today. 1262 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,600 Adios. Well, that's it for another 1263 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,680 episode of Splintered Spirits. Be sure to like, share, and 1264 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,840 subscribe to our YouTube channel, Spotify, or wherever 1265 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,520 you get your podcasts. Until next time, stay curious.